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00:06:27
coming on to talk about sports and, more specifically, MLB from CBS Sports.
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He covers them.
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I'll be Danny, the Eddie somebody is going to be the Cleveland Browns.
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The here.
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Is it going to be another opponent, or is it going to be the Cleveland Browns? That's their story line, and the season will answer that story without my prediction.
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Preseason, Because we always have to do that at ESPN, you know, give us your prediction to make us look like idiots.
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Was Astros and National with the Astros winning, Given the fact that both of those teams still look like there in the mix for that eventuality, I'm gonna stick with that.
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Astros and Nationals with Astros winning play actions can take himself around the left big hole.
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40 35 30 cuts it.
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The men on the field called it the 20 semi walking 10 walking into the end zone, and the Chiefs are gonna be going to Miami.
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What is up, SportsCastr.
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Sorry about the technical delays in the beginning, along with my good friend Gov.
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Shimoff is joining Dove in the moment of truth.
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Think this thing's gonna work it high doing? I'm doing great.
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This this whole video started this whole video started you in on our great shot.
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We were having a discussion which started with the e.
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I believe Dobie claiming eagles are one of the best teams Yada, yada, yada going through a whole bunch of stuff, by the way, welcome out, Michael Mercy.
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Adeline Laura, 38 eyes exports to this broadcast.
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Thank you for joining.
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And we got onto the topic of this Odo beckon a top five wide receiver.
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And it really started when I thought was interesting about it.
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Waas, I've got So I've got this double.
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That should be better Now, You know, you're not hearing me twice more tech difficulties.
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It was It was just so money tensions, that conversation, like Toby like it's so hard just to even go back so hard Getting of those coming so hard getting of those.
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Uh uh Yeah, you are just coming through.
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That's good.
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Now liken that part.
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Sell Doby.
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You and I kind of really disagreed on this one.
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And I have changed my claim up a little bit.
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So I mean, I think you see.
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But let's just start off with who are the best receivers in the NFL.
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And I think we both agreed here.
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DeAndre Hopkins, definitely top five NFL wide receiver.
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Absolutely.
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Um, for me, of my top five would probably Hopkins, uh, Michael Thomas.
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But with him right there with you, I released the farm.
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Dig.
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Okay, we'll get more compact digs.
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All right.
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Uh, we think that after that, after that re probably be welcome at epic Mild to this broadcast. Thank you for joining.
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I just followed you.
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I think Julio Jones, at least in my mind, is definitely a top five NFL wide receiver.
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Let's see, That's DeAndre Hopkins, Michael Thomas who? These are guys who we both agree upon.
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Julio Jones.
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I have one other one who I mentioned on our chat, and now I am blinking on his name as well.
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Let me just go back and go through some names because I didn't have Otaibi kill and tell me kills a tough because here's the thing was tired.
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Kill Henry.
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Kill makes his money from by being in the slot and slot receivers are pretty hard to judge compared Teoh receivers who are out wide.
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And because you got other slot receivers, guys like Julian Edelman, there are other good slot receivers are just so hard to judge.
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It's interesting to see how that works out.
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You hear Dove E agreeing.
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Really not an easy call.
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How you going, toe judge? I think we both agree. Time kill.
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I mean his speed.
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His athleticism is route running.
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There's reasons why he's in the top five, not just the fact that he's in the slot.
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I mean, investing for his.
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The year, I mean the top wide receiver on Ah, emboldening team.
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Yeah, I mean, so without going more into numbering those guys or who else? We in our top five? Those are the four players who we both agree are in.
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The top five will be has to fund.
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Except And here was my issue when I was naming top when we were going through and we were trying to think, and I was just trying to name top NFL wide receivers, I could not name another top NFL wide receiver higher than Odell Beckham.
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Excuse me in front of Moto back in junior After those four and I was thunderstruck.
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I was like, No way.
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Oh, but I don't think I thought over the deal was top 10.
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I think he was top five.
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Dobie, you're about voice your disagreement.
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What were you saying? I am going to try.
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Look for what I would I I wrote on the create chapter.
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That's, um, there.
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I mean, you got you talked about a guy like Tyler Lockett.
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Let's talk about Tattler.
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Welcome That feels to this podcast.
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Here's my thing with Tyler Lockett, Tyler Lockett Dynamic wide receiver.
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But here's why.
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Tyler lockets great Taylor lock.
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It's great because of this scramble drill.
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He's with his chemistry with Russell Wilson.
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Dazzle makes Tyler Lockett great.
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Uh, do you disagree? No, not at all.
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Like, uh, that's why I think, yeah, yeah, let's get other names after the still be just like that, as methodical as we can while we're I'm dealing with, like, a 1,000,000 different tech difficulties and figuring everything trying to figure everything out.
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Um, but I felt like Tyler Lockett that wasn't a top five wide receiver, because yes, I just didn't think he's not a slot receiver, but I just thought it was.
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His chemistry has scrambled Joe that set him apart.
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I thought, I'm not going to talk about We're not really gonna talk about how the quarterback is making the impact, except we actually will, when it comes down to about Odell Beckham Jr.
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Some incredible stats on that one, but I feel like he's got a good quarterback he's got, but it's a scramble, Jill.
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That makes locking great.
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And by the way, this conversation is not about fantasy football in fantasy football.
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I don't think Odell Beckham's in my top 20 wide receivers.
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Maybe topic, right? Maybe.
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Maybe he's well, what do you have when you have other people like Jarvis Landry on the team? It starts to get divided.
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So I mean, you know, there are other reasons why he's not why he wouldn't be a top top fantasy wide receiver, and that is, I mean, he has other teammates, and we'll talk more about that later.
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But this'll is not a fantasy topic.
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Dobie, you mentioned Stefon Diggs.
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US.
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Talk about Stepan ****s. Here's my thing was to Pondexter.
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Fund digs, incredible speed, pretty good hands leasing out running.
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He's not tough. I bought receiver.
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He's a top five.
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You could make an argument.
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I would vehemently disagree, but you could make an argument.
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Stefon Diggs is a top five fantasy wide receiver.
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Well, but I don't think you you think much of I think it in my top five.
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I meant if I put him there on the, uh, group that I would start more about 15 when I wrote that.
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But you said beginning this broadcast that you had to funded on your top plot.
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Are you recanting that statement? Oh, yeah.
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Sorry. I said that.
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My bad.
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Um, that's all right.
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I have a feeling that we're gonna both be a bunch of statements that we're gonna be recanting throughout this one as we're both figuring this thing out.
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Um, but that so I don't know.
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So yeah, I think we're both in agreement.
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Nasty fund eggs.
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Now, how about Stefon Diggs counterpart Adam feeling? I think No, I think feelings had his dough, but no, I'm he definitely good writer fever.
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Any definitely.
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Your story agreed, but it's not here, not top five.
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Um, how about a guy like Larry Fitzgerald and he fits jail? What? He's He's an incredible NFL wide receiver without a doubt, but he's he's aging NFL wide receiver, and I think he's still very, very good.
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I don't think his top five you could make an argument.
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Top five all time Top five of the decade.
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You can't make an argument Top five.
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Right now we have a country that now that they have Ah, DeAndre Hopkins.
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Yeah, and that's going to unveil B.
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But that could make life.
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It's Jill that much better, because the coverage is gonna be good.
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The defense has to worry so much more about DeAndre Hopkins, the Cardinals in there in that air raid offense.
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Air raid offense, which is when you have a four wide receiver set up most of the time, as that is your base package, you go to offensive package and the That's what the Cardinals run.
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And that's gonna be also guy and I Christian Kirk.
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He's going to probably also have a another phenomenal year, and that will be interesting to see how that's gonna work out as well, right? Also, another person that, uh, I wonder edible earlier DK Metcalf.
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I'm not sure about whom you'd be pretty close to my top five.
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Very good.
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You would put you came back after close your top five.
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Yeah.
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Why? As you I think you just very I don't know.
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I mean, I'm not trying to put on the spot here.
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I'm just really curious.
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I just really like how you plead last year.
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Uh, like, over the thing that you feel, uh, on the film.
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Here's my thing with UK Metcalfe.
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And I think, by the way, welcome at Gunners Lover 1 92 to this broadcast will be Shimoff joining me on this feeling, actually, part of the Browns the Browns Triangle blocking out last part of Dill These name live on SportsCastr.
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I did not talk about my content will do that starting next segment, but we were taught talking is photobox in junior top five wide receiver and we're going to right now.
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Other options still be bought up to came back half.
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Here's my thing with you came that first off coming in going into the draft, I was saying, Do not draft him in the first round for sure And there he was, linked to the to the Ravens And when I said from the Ravens perspective Waas.
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The Ribbons had drafted a guy named Breshad Perriman.
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Not the same guy.
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Not the same intangibles, but similar intangibles to UK Mask.
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Half and not maybe intangibles isn't the right word here.
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Limited route, option injury and injury prone.
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And I didn't I really did not think he came back after Should have got should go to the Ravens and the Ravens didn't take into, SIAC said.
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But, yeah, his game film is good, but Metcalf is a limited route runner.
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He's getting better.
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Don't get me wrong.
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He's getting betters that runner.
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He's got great hands and very, very physical, but he's not.
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He's not polished.
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He's not great.
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He's not dynamic.
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He's not making a big impact.
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And yet you're saying he's a top five wide receiver? Um, I think he's close to it.
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I'm not sure if he is it, but he's he very close, and I think he could become one in the next.
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Here's, I think, definitely has a potential to be. Come on.
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I mean, I'm not going through lists.
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I'm not gone through names yet, but I'm not sure I would even put him in the top 10.
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How much are permanent help. 15.
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And because it is, it is a little bit early.
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Um, just to be judging that stuff, and I'm actually curious.
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What word? DK Metcalf stats.
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Do you happen to know? No. I don't know.
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Let me take a look.
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Yeah, I mean, I'm trying to pull them up.
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Also, you probably have a little bit faster because my computer is running a whole bunch of stuff.
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I'm going to need to filter this, um, here.
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So for, uh, he had 58 receptions, 900 yards.
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What's that? Yards? Perception.
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Um, and we're gonna math 15.5.
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Okay, that's a great arts perception.
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Um, his catch percentage 58 which is no great, right? I mean, um okay, Yeah.
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And then refuting urine per game of 56.
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3 or no.
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Feel pretty? Yeah.
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Forget? Yeah.
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I mean, not have a bladder season. I'm sorry.
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Not yet has a potential.
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Not yet.
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We're, um who some other guys we mentioned away.
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Um, I got didn't mention Julian Edelman.
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No, I don't think Yeah.
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Yeah.
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When I was writing up the thing on the cheddar, I thought about a moment like that.
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I mean, look at the stats.
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100 receptions, 1117 yards.
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Six touchdowns he had.
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He was first on Recep.
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What is this? That receptions.
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But I would pretend I would know what that is.
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Okay.
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Receiving.
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Oh, Hell had 54 receiving first downs, I thought.
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I think it'll be interesting to see how he does without Tom Brady.
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It's not a top five NFL wide receiver.
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He's a slot receiver.
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We talked about how it's hard to judge guys out of the slot and I don't know.
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I don't think I know.
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I think Julian Edelman is starting on the decline.
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So yeah, I mean, I think that he did great with Tom Brady, but And we'll feeling with, uh, Justin him? Yeah.
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I mean, that would be interesting to see who some other guys Dobie that you that you were saying to go above Odell Beckham.
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Um, do you talk about a term? We didn't know this was a name that you threw out on the list that shocked me.
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There were other names you put on the list, and I will pull up that list eventually.
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But Terry McLaurin, you're telling me, Turn me clones attack.
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Five NFL wide receiver not know what? You guys made it easier for you.
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Let's make this easier.
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You're telling me Terry McLaurin is better than Odell Beckham Jr.
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Wherever those two are wrecked.
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How? I don't know.
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I don't think that, uh I don't think that'll Buckingham.
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Like, I think he's great for the most part of catching, obviously in great hands.
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But I think that after the catch, um oh, no.
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I think after after you capture a great don't you know what pro football focus is you're looking at right now? Uh, well, you have an account on there.
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I know.
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I'm looking at the, uh was there looking pro football reference.
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I use that one Also.
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Profootballfocus is a site on.
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Yes, I'm giving that.
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I guess I'm giving them an ad right now, which is basically I mean, they have their own scouting methods and their own ranking methods about everything in the NFL.
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Definitely one of their very, very good with that's very good stats.
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And I saw a couple of interesting things when I was looking for this when I was looking when I was prepping in the last half hour before the show Live on SportsCastr with Gilbey Shimoff.
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Okay, so most valuable NFC East players over the last five years.
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Pro Accord to pro football focus wins above replacement number one. Dak Prescott.
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Number two costing once.
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Number three.
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Kurt Customs number 40 line Manning.
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They'll tell the quarterbacks of all of the every team in the NFC East.
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And this one was this tweet published.
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This was posted in June.
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So this is posted for Daisy up and then right after those four quarterbacks and desks, best player in the NFC East was Odell Beckham Jr.
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What you mean I don't know? Ah, it's a good point.
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I am.
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I think that if you look at the stuff from last year when you with on the Brown versus when he was on the, uh, Giants are very different because we're not looking at them.
00:23:41
Also, when you look at his capture tenets when 2014 you know that 70% have been going down, right? Okay, so let's take a look at another step Catchable target percentage of balls that are thrown that he has a shot at catching.
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When he was 2014 through 2018 64.
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9% last year, down almost down over 5% over 5% down a 59.7.
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That's a huge drop off, and Baker Mayfield last year stunk.
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There is no other way to say it.
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This is This was a Browns team that was the darlings of the NFL.
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You heard the audio in the beginning.
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If you were here if you weren't repeated for you.
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Jerry Sandusky, voice of the Raymond's when he was on my podcast, said, When we were previewing your Browns last year, the Browns undeniably most talents and seeming the A F C North.
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But someone's going to beat the Browns.
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It's gonna whose and who will be? Will it be the Browns, or will it be another team? It was the Browns.
00:24:49
The Browns beat themselves, and Odell Beckham Jr has just not had a chance to put up the stats.
00:24:56
He put up with an aging Eli Manning in New York, right? But, I mean, the only on the person that he really sharing, uh, reception with with him and Jarvis Landry.
00:25:11
After that, Nick checked down, connected with running back.
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If you can't trust checked out.
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Yeah, David Gilkey if you come out.
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But even joke without for a lot of life here, was it really? Yeah.
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Thank you anyway, that feel like uh huh.
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I did not even realize that.
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Who else? I mean, you're going family team.
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Know that Calloway on? Yeah.
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Now down starting.
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I'm starting just to look for names.
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But Jarvis Landry nodal back from junior to very, very talented receivers.
00:25:44
Neither had great Here's last year.
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Neither had great years last year.
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And the thing waas How much of that was their fault? And how much of that do you blame on odor out? Excuse me on Baker Mayfield.
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I think a lot.
00:26:01
I've been love it, but you'll have to look at defense.
00:26:04
Look, we're looking very good.
00:26:05
Of course I'm the on what we go with, but do you think with, uh with, uh, Myles Garrett for the silvery for the defense and, uh, definitely There.
00:26:17
What do you mean? Well, he was a big part of that defense.
00:26:22
Well, year.
00:26:23
So I mean, I'm not saying it's all his fault, but offensively, Baker Mayfield not getting him to football, And when it has to stop in a good throw if you're barely.
00:26:35
If you're not heading 60% on catchable targets, that's not great.
00:26:40
As the NFL draft, sir, you need to be hitting 60% completion percentage to be good.
00:26:44
I mean, that's a very minimal and I don't know what Baker, Mayfield.
00:26:50
Completion percentage.
00:26:51
I can look that up right now.
00:26:55
Um, thinker.
00:26:56
Mayfield Completion percentage.
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You gonna the 59.
00:27:00
4? He wasn't getting the job done.
00:27:04
It wasn't close.
00:27:06
22 touchdowns.
00:27:07
21 interception of a quarterback rating of 78.
00:27:11
Almost 79.
00:27:12
So called 79.
00:27:14
Thank you May feel stunk.
00:27:16
Baker Mayfield was the reason the Browns were bad.
00:27:18
He wasn't the only reason.
00:27:19
I think he had a horrific what? Um, offensive system.
00:27:23
I thought the has made a horrific decision when they chose their coach after their 2018 season.
00:27:30
I thought the Browns messed up big time in the front office.
00:27:35
What? Right.
00:27:36
I mean, watching a video, you know what we're saying? I know watching a video like, uh of the, you know, the brown thing that they have on you too now, like making the ground or something.
00:27:47
Oh, the hell, I get furious being like a theory that they put out every year about you call building the Browns on everyone the common flu.
00:27:55
Like, Why do you get afraid of kitchen? Because kitchen, it seems like a great guy and a black hang around with may not agree, coach.
00:28:02
For you, Not a coach type where he like yelling at you like younger feels? Yeah.
00:28:08
I mean, I just didn't understand why they didn't keep their interim head coach.
00:28:11
And I'm blinking on the name.
00:28:13
Whose interim coach in 2018.
00:28:16
I'm not a good look.
00:28:18
Um I mean, the head coach in Alice commits to fan ski.
00:28:22
Um, was Williams Gregg Williams? Yeah.
00:28:32
That was like, Why not? Why? What? Why not keep him? No, But I have.
00:28:41
Yeah, I mean, they I mean, why not? I mean, it worked that have worked big time.
00:28:49
They had browser gone on a run that they hadn't gone on for the legs off in many a year.
00:28:56
The Browns were competitive.
00:28:57
They were one game away.
00:28:59
They were one play away from having a even record and was all because of Baker Mayfield and was all because of the offensive system.
00:29:08
And it was all because of everything that have worked.
00:29:13
And then they went away from what worked and they brought up a guy.
00:29:16
And so maybe you make that decision so you bring up your interim offensive coordinator in Freddie Kitchens and making that coach and that completely sales.
00:29:28
But it wasn't just that the that failed Baker Mayfield failed also, and I think that that's what 00 B.
00:29:39
J stats have dropped off.
00:29:42
Where do you think, Uh, where you think what you think could happen with Baker Mayfield.
00:29:45
If you continue to play like this, I am.
00:29:50
I think we'll be interesting to see what the new head coach, how that's gonna work out.
00:29:53
I think now he's got Austin Hooper, former Falcons tight, and so I think that's gonna give him another really good option, and I think they can make you will improve.
00:30:01
I don't think he will stay static if he stay static.
00:30:06
That's good question, I think depends on how good the Bangles are, because I think even right now, with Baker Mayfield stats from last year, Browns have a chance at a playoff spot.
00:30:23
Not a great chance, but a chance.
00:30:26
I think of Baker improves a little bit and I got a Really they've got They really have a chance.
00:30:31
I'm going to come up for a wild card for the division.
00:30:34
I am.
00:30:35
I know I did see an interesting take that had said the steals.
00:30:37
We're gonna win the division.
00:30:38
Um, I definitely disagreed with that one.
00:30:42
Alright, Dobie nine.
00:30:43
I'm going to step aside.
00:30:44
We'll come back.
00:30:45
Continue this conversation is Odell Beckham Jr.
00:30:47
A top five wide receiver.
00:30:49
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00:34:38
Oh, no.
00:34:39
Back We were talking about who is better than Odell Beckham Jr. We are list.
00:34:44
We both agree on Waas.
00:34:47
DeAndre Hopkins, Michael Thomas, Julio Jones.
00:34:49
Terry kill? Yeah, those were pretty obvious.
00:34:53
Don't we brought up another good point until you have a phone call and w saying that you brought up a really good point in the break about who would have been in front of O B J.
00:35:10
Who we both would have agreed upon if he was still playing.
00:35:14
Yeah, and Tony around.
00:35:16
I mean, Antonio Brown all those rumors doesn't think anything's happening with that, but yeah, Antonio Brown, he was a star.
00:35:25
Still has the potential to be a star.
00:35:28
All right, so going back to the guys who are playing, though, CD lamp.
00:35:32
You put him on your list earlier.
00:35:36
Yeah, obviously we still have to see how it getting play.
00:35:39
I'm down with.
00:35:40
Kind of like how I think you will do, I think.
00:35:44
Uh huh.
00:35:45
So you're telling me CD lamb a la vi.
00:35:46
That it? I mean, I could hear it, because what we've talked about how bad the brown I'm in Baker medical situation is right now.
00:35:56
Um, right.
00:35:59
I mean, of course, that we felt if he was gonna be, because of course, they're busted.
00:36:03
You have? I mean, just just from just look at O b j staff for a second off last year.
00:36:10
74 receptions over 1000 yards, four touchdowns.
00:36:16
I mean, the an average of 14 years perception.
00:36:19
That's not a bad stats.
00:36:22
In fact, that's a great steps.
00:36:25
I mean, like touches.
00:36:26
He only had four touchdowns, and that was with a bad quarterback.
00:36:31
No way.
00:36:32
CD lamp is better than that, right? I'm gonna I'm your for reception at the same If you did it. 15.
00:36:43
Just 14.
00:36:45
14.
00:36:46
So in do you came back after we came back. Captain.
00:36:51
Have 1000 yards.
00:36:54
Hey, Metcalf's didn't have a horrific quarterback.
00:36:56
D Kim Medcalf, actually, one of the best quarterbacks last year.
00:37:01
What a fair, Uh, do that.
00:37:03
What about CD lamps can apart.
00:37:05
You bought him up also.
00:37:07
Amari Cooper.
00:37:10
Yeah.
00:37:11
I mean, I think that he could have a much bigger than needed last year.
00:37:14
Uh, how much bigger the with CD land who you're also predicting south of the year.
00:37:20
Yeah, I'm It's everything without an eagle fan.
00:37:23
But I think that they have a strong possibility of taking to the division.
00:37:28
I think it had, uh, if they could have, uh, week play, I think Zico play Sofia The corona does Coverdell the out of his system by September. Hopefully.
00:37:40
Hopefully, I'm in as an eagle stand for you.
00:37:44
Hopefully not, but as a person and as a player, hopefully it will be out of the system, which I have to imagine.
00:37:51
It will be, um and he was a couple of the one Henry rugs.
00:37:58
This name completely threw me CD lamb.
00:38:00
I could I would hear more than Henry rocks.
00:38:03
Not like I hear city land, like at all.
00:38:06
What about Henry rugs? Maybe You think he'd be better in the Total Beckham Jr? Um and they're not love.
00:38:16
I mean, I could be wrong on this, and I can't think of another, uh, the other.
00:38:22
Never another Raider is wide receiver than her.
00:38:26
That great, obviously of each other in the first round.
00:38:28
They're expecting him to be a big part of the Boston Acura.
00:38:35
Even the Raiders believe self Tyrell Williams? I believe so.
00:38:40
I can double check these But those are names that came up immediately.
00:38:45
Let's go.
00:38:46
The Raiders deaths The Los Vegas Riggers taps chart still seems weird.
00:38:51
You can get treated.
00:38:53
Yeah, a Tyrell Williams.
00:38:56
And then, of course, Darren Waller.
00:38:58
Former Ravens like torturing, tied at national.
00:39:01
I remember this from when the Ravens played the Raiders.
00:39:05
Actually, when the Ravens played the Raiders in Oakland bunch of years ago.
00:39:10
Joe Flacco era.
00:39:11
It's like I'm not.
00:39:12
Three years ago, I know Michael Crabtree had, like, a deep touchdown.
00:39:15
The game Brandon card gave up on the coverage at the Derek Carr was gambling around and, you know, it was the residence.
00:39:23
Malia, actually, never mind. Different.
00:39:25
Different backup tight end.
00:39:26
But yeah, pretty sure.
00:39:27
Darren Waller, How distant with the Ravens, at least in training camp.
00:39:31
Um remember liking.
00:39:32
And then And now the Raiders really like him.
00:39:36
I mean, he had a great year last year for them.
00:39:39
See doubt.
00:39:40
Those were those The only reasons for saying Henry rugs.
00:39:44
Yeah, but even if you look enough in the glory and I know that the needle family, he wasn't that great last year, I didn't It's on the field, but he wasn't her everything.
00:39:56
Everyone was, uh, injured to go on the field.
00:39:58
Boston, I mean, but like I said, Down, Wallet had over 1000 receiving yards last year, right? I get it. That end up.
00:40:06
He's attended, and but we are talking about receivers, but you're saying, But he's still getting a lot of those receiving yards, right? And But there was.
00:40:17
I mean, he was my thing with drugs and my immediate reaction to you saying rugs, rugs was drafted by the Raiders, and that was a reach.
00:40:26
If you remember, people were surprised.
00:40:29
He took the Raiders, took Henry rugs.
00:40:31
Then here's why they took on drugs, and I apologize.
00:40:33
I don't remember the exact reason off the top my head general reason why is he fits the scheme.
00:40:39
I believe it's because that they want that.
00:40:42
I believe it's because they they wanted on the vertical game.
00:40:45
That's what John Cornyn likes to dio.
00:40:47
And that's what Henry Rugs gives them more than any other wide receiver more than Jared Judy more than C.
00:40:53
D. Lamb. And I believe that's why they took him again.
00:40:55
I don't remember the exact scheme off the top of my head but that they took him specifically because he would fit their scheme.
00:41:04
And only because it, right.
00:41:07
Well, John Thune openly like said that he likes to have Ah, fast receivers.
00:41:13
Speed is definitely valued on that Las Vegas Rangers team.
00:41:16
Still sounds weird.
00:41:19
Let me just make sure I were complete the un muted.
00:41:23
Still be.
00:41:25
Yeah.
00:41:26
Yeah, Well, good.
00:41:27
Um, have me scared for a second.
00:41:31
Okay, so there goes one off another one off the list.
00:41:34
My government's this one I I could hear a really argument for.
00:41:40
Yeah, I'm a very big my Kevin Foon.
00:41:42
Uh, I'm not else.
00:41:44
I'm in another guy down there.
00:41:46
Chris Godwin in Tampa.
00:41:48
Yeah.
00:41:49
I mean to really talented wide receivers.
00:41:54
Um, right.
00:41:55
When I let go Food, water fever, they think the dealer.
00:42:01
Yeah, that they're very good.
00:42:03
Um, my Kevin, the very big, uh, physic wide receiver.
00:42:09
Re good.
00:42:10
Really pushed him out of the way.
00:42:11
I mean, I've read slow.
00:42:13
I could hear my Mike Evans being better than total back in junior.
00:42:17
I'm not saying I agree.
00:42:20
I'm not sure that I agree.
00:42:22
I really They go Beckhams a generational talent.
00:42:28
I really dio I think he's not.
00:42:31
Statistically, he might not be a generational talent, but talent wise, skill wise impact he makes on the field despite his lack of quarterbacking.
00:42:42
This bite a browns, um, exploding everything.
00:42:49
Everything is going wrong for the Browns.
00:42:51
Despite that he puts up over 1000 yards.
00:42:53
Despite that, he's a great NFL wide receiver, I think.
00:43:00
Oh, yeah, no doubt he had agreed by receiver on that.
00:43:07
I'm not sure about whom might have five, but obviously not.
00:43:11
We're not Top 10 Captain.
00:43:15
Like you feel like you see myself putting him in.
00:43:17
I we have yet to officially put one name over him except for those top four guys we talked about, right? So the other perfect.
00:43:28
So obviously we are happening in.
00:43:31
I turned around because he's not our team.
00:43:33
And the very good chance he won't be right.
00:43:36
Um, another thing that I like to you.
00:43:40
Why Hilton to my Helton's another, But having a guy who I thought who I was thinking, maybe he goes above O.
00:43:47
B. J T. Y.
00:43:49
Hilton is not had great quarterbacking, either.
00:43:53
He's not going.
00:43:54
Hopefully now we will with a full of rivers, but last year he wasn't.
00:43:59
I'm not sure how good Philip Rivers will be.
00:44:02
What's the guarantee? Philip Rivers does great good point ago and yeah, I mean, like, Philip Rivers didn't do well last year on the Chargers, right? Well, Erica, I mean, I do think T y Hilton is a re be good player.
00:44:28
I think he's an amazing player.
00:44:30
I don't know.
00:44:31
Do you want Helton's? Interesting? I could I could hear myself put into White House in a bubble.
00:44:35
BJ.
00:44:36
I still don't think I would know I could hear it.
00:44:39
I'm not sure I would make a big deal out of it.
00:44:42
That could be a preferential opinion, but I don't know.
00:44:49
I mean, why helps? It's good, right? I mean, I think regardless, I think you've, uh, unrelated on, uh, under a little bit.
00:44:59
He is especially.
00:45:01
I mean, what he didn't last year without engine love was really impressive.
00:45:09
I feel like Hollywood Brown of the Baltimore Ravens.
00:45:14
Everyone's predicting he'll have a breakout year this year.
00:45:18
What do you think? I don't know.
00:45:21
I mean, to be honest, I don't know much about him.
00:45:24
Uh, I want to play, but I don't think Hollywood does better than LBJ? No, I don't think so.
00:45:35
I think Holly wouldn't commit.
00:45:36
You could He could have a top 10 statistical season, I think.
00:45:40
Hollywood Brown.
00:45:41
She's available in the 2nd 3rd round here.
00:45:43
Draft. You better gobble him up.
00:45:46
I mean, I don't think is the first time fantasy draft pick not made a draft board dove eu there.
00:45:54
I think they will be just left.
00:45:59
Do we shut off? I think that was gone, and I can't really get back online right now because we got some.
00:46:07
I've got technical issues on my side.
00:46:09
Looks like Joey's got technical issues on his side.
00:46:11
I can still talk, though.
00:46:13
Um, be I don't think Hollywood Brown is the top is the top five NFL wide receiver.
00:46:19
Like I said, maybe top 10 I think and think he could be really good.
00:46:24
I don't know, said the question was how goods all over again.
00:46:28
How good is Odell Beckham Jr.
00:46:31
Despite a bad quarterbacking six issue despite I thought a bad Brown's front office and a Brown and I did not like the Browns coaching staff last year and the coaching decisions.
00:46:46
Despite that he put up over 1000 yards Oh, BJ's a generally strong talent.
00:46:53
I'm not sure if he's a top five NFL wide receiver.
00:46:57
I know I've had half.
00:47:01
We've been playing. Devil's Advocate would still be here.
00:47:05
Let me just go to this.
00:47:07
Let's go through this right now.
00:47:09
I mean, just every team just toe see if see if I'm missing anyone.
00:47:13
A f C North Brown, A J.
00:47:15
Green A J.
00:47:19
Green.
00:47:20
What about a J.
00:47:24
Green? When he's on the field, he's a nightmare, But he's not often on the field.
00:47:31
I'm not leaving.
00:47:32
And I'm not even considering Tyler board, by the way, not even considering but A J.
00:47:38
Green.
00:47:39
I could hear legit argument again if if he was consistently on the field shirt A J green's better than no, no back.
00:47:46
Um, actually, I don't know.
00:47:52
I don't know when you want to bet that still be sending me a text message saying at an issue, OK? No, that's someone else telling me, um, banners.
00:48:05
Okay, try this.
00:48:08
Hopefully that'll make that better telling May I was, um and so it s a g green.
00:48:21
If he's there, I think you could do great.
00:48:23
I need to meet this.
00:48:25
Um put it on vibrate and thanks, Daddy.
00:48:33
For the, um, a device.
00:48:36
I can't actually see myself because I'm locked out.
00:48:38
I think it's a computer issue yet again.
00:48:41
Um, but so OK, so continue to the it's you know, it talked about how they would Brown.
00:48:48
We said, No stealer to do Smith Schuster not buying it.
00:48:52
Um And then we're talking about the Browns.
00:48:55
LBJ Jarvis Landry is not better than Noto Beckham.
00:48:58
He's good, but he's not better and see East Julian Undermine.
00:49:01
We talked about him.
00:49:02
No Bill Stefon Diggs.
00:49:03
We talked about no to the Bills of any other great wide receivers that I can think of Off Tom Ahead Jets.
00:49:09
Jamison Crowder No.
00:49:11
Ah, Parker Down in Miami now, not not even close.
00:49:17
Let's go.
00:49:18
The F C South NFC South had not talked a lot about We talked to, um a J.
00:49:22
Brown on the Titans.
00:49:24
Don't let me know.
00:49:25
By the way, if you're back no, don't be saying is gonna Dobie is gonna, um, re join soon A. J.
00:49:38
Brown on the tight ends.
00:49:39
I think he's got the potential to be top of NFL wide receiver, but he's not there yet.
00:49:46
Um oh, gosh.
00:49:52
Let's, um give me a second.
00:49:59
I must try to re and adobe, and you can hear my sister in the background.
00:50:06
Theoretically, depending on how much us Mike is picking up, will be trying to get back in a minute.
00:50:15
Actually, just accept the tab, because this is I would not hopefully get, um, let it will be back in momentarily.
00:50:29
Continue to that F c south.
00:50:31
Um, who else Who? Also there? Texans.
00:50:35
They traded away DeAndre Hopkins.
00:50:37
Incredibly stupid decision.
00:50:38
I've talked about that many a time.
00:50:40
Not talking about it now.
00:50:44
Who else? Who else? Those colts we talked about T y Hilton Jaguars deejay shark No.
00:50:51
A s.
00:50:52
West.
00:50:53
Talked about every kill.
00:50:54
Talked a little bit about Sammy Watkins.
00:50:57
Ah, hell, stop five. He's better than over Jay.
00:50:59
Sammy Watkins is not Chargers Kenyan.
00:51:04
Allen's good Keenan Allen, uh, get Allen's really underrated.
00:51:11
Um, I don't think better.
00:51:15
I think he's underrated. I think it's good.
00:51:17
I think he's not better.
00:51:20
Um, also nice Iwas We talked about the Raiders.
00:51:27
One other team, the Broncos, your Judy Courtland, sudden, cruel and sevens got a lot of potential.
00:51:34
Not top five NFL wide receiver them to the NFC NFC East.
00:51:38
Anyone on the Eagles know Cowboys? We talked about Omar Cooper and CD lamb.
00:51:46
Uh, Redskins term McLaurin.
00:51:49
Absolutely not of the corn does have a lot of potential.
00:51:55
Um, and who is the last team in the n F C East? I'm going to remember it like one second.
00:52:06
Hopefully got Eagles, Cowboys, Redskins, Giants.
00:52:13
Known of giants.
00:52:15
Um, so that's NFC East.
00:52:20
NFC South talked about Michael Thomas.
00:52:22
Michael Thomas is in that top five.
00:52:24
No one else on the same.
00:52:25
So buccaneers.
00:52:26
We talked about Krista, uh, Mike Evans and Chris Godwin.
00:52:30
Excuse me.
00:52:31
Um, and both of those I could hear an argument for more Mike Evans and Chris beyond win.
00:52:42
Statistically, they're both great.
00:52:44
I'll be interesting to see how that does with Tom Brady in Tampa Bay.
00:52:50
Gonna I mean, that's gonna kind of limit vertical range down the field.
00:52:53
Having Brady there.
00:52:55
That will be interesting to see.
00:52:58
Um, he was talking about Then who else? And then hold your Jones we talked about and the and anyone of the Panthers Did you have, um d j Moore? No.
00:53:20
An F C North.
00:53:22
Like Kings.
00:53:23
Who do they have? Let's talk about all the first round draft picks that Aaron Rodgers has.
00:53:27
A wide receiver.
00:53:31
I could talk.
00:53:32
Um, Vikings.
00:53:35
I am feelin No, we talked about him.
00:53:38
Lions, Kenny Golladay, Kenny Golladay know his good because not tough.
00:53:46
And the last team the Bears.
00:53:47
Allen Robinson.
00:53:48
I could, you know.
00:53:50
I mean, he's good.
00:53:51
I don't think its top five NFL wide receiver I don't, um Then finally, the NFC West.
00:54:00
We talked about Tyler Lockett.
00:54:01
We talked about he came back after, did not really talk about Cooper Cup.
00:54:04
Robert Woods and the Brennan cooks was now a Texan.
00:54:12
So I guess someone didn't.
00:54:13
Young Texans.
00:54:15
Um, that's gonna hold them back.
00:54:22
Um, just tell Toby something.
00:54:25
Some things you don't to join.
00:54:38
And though it's not to be able to join, um 40 Niners Emmanuel Sanders No Debo Samuels.
00:54:48
No big thanks to delivery for joining.
00:54:54
Um, Cardinals talked about DeAndre.
00:54:59
Hopkins talked about lower if it's jail.
00:55:01
So basically what it's come down to is I don't have someone else I think is better.
00:55:05
They're not really better than or tobacco, Junior.
00:55:07
I can hear guys.
00:55:08
You can make arguments for.
00:55:10
I think I'm really starting to think, Oh, BJ's a tough hop wide receiver.
00:55:15
Maybe you'll tell me more than sample receivers a couple of minutes you could throw in there.
00:55:25
Um, but I don't know.
00:55:28
I think that he's the averages.
00:55:32
Really struggled.
00:55:34
I mean, over Jay's.
00:55:36
I mean, just imagine over J with Daniel Jones for a second.
00:55:39
I think that could be really interesting to see, but I don't know, I don't think I mean, it was in his best interest to go to the Browns.
00:55:52
I don't think that's, I mean grounds very counted.
00:55:54
They've just not been able to put it together.
00:55:56
It's only been one year they will see if they turn around this year.
00:56:00
I don't think they can completely turn around.
00:56:03
I think that deficits too big that the A F C notes to talented.
00:56:07
I think they've got a shot at a wild card spot, maybe the sixth or seventh wildcard spot.
00:56:11
I think I mean, just take a look at the A F C North for a second.
00:56:14
That's actually where the conversation with does it started.
00:56:17
F C North first NFC East A.
00:56:20
F c.
00:56:21
I mean a F C North Steelers nine wins with their second and third string quarterback.
00:56:26
Nine wins with their second or third string quarterback.
00:56:29
One.
00:56:30
I mean, they were.
00:56:31
It was a once and then pursues night.
00:56:33
Um, they were real eagles.
00:56:35
And if the new NFL playoff format have been in place last year, they would have made the playoffs.
00:56:45
Got the Ravens 14 into coming off of a historic season.
00:56:50
No reason why they shouldn't repeat as a f C North champions.
00:56:54
By the way, do you see everyone see the video about LaMotte with Mark Jackson? Um, diving over that jet ski kind of got, um, just think about this for a second.
00:57:05
Mark Jackson was running on sand and he saw he was wearing flip flops.
00:57:13
And yet that's a kind of athleticism, that kind of acceleration, the kind of burst of speed he was showing, and I don't know who he was playing.
00:57:23
Um, he is fine after that encounter with the Jet ski, but it's gonna be another fund season for Baltimore and their fans because Lamar Jackson's going back in full force, and I think I tweeted this out way back.
00:57:45
The only thing that could stop the Ravens from a Super Bowl.
00:57:47
This year is covert.
00:57:51
So be interesting to see how that works out as well.
00:57:55
And then you got Cincinnati Bangles.
00:57:58
It's like if a J.
00:57:59
Green's healthy, I mean, he's a wide receiver.
00:58:04
And if a J green Celtic them inside, the board's gonna have some good statistics, tell our efforts, gonna have some good statistics.
00:58:11
They got your mixing, um, promising Young running back.
00:58:15
So the Bangles are good as well.
00:58:17
That have seen note is a really, really stacked.
00:58:20
I don't think we'll see four times golden tiles from any division for a while.
00:58:25
But if there was a division where I had to say four teams to go to the playoffs from either NFC South and that's the West or a F C North.
00:58:37
So I'm just talking a little bit about those Rams wide receivers Robert Woods and Cooper Cup.
00:58:44
I think that both underrated, but I don't think that they're better than normal back junior physically.
00:58:51
Bottom line the women in this video No one is better.
00:58:56
I mean, oh no Beckham Jr.
00:58:58
You might say he's not a top five NFL wide receiver, but he's definitely a top 10 definitely, And I was.
00:59:06
I was really surprised when I was listening receivers earlier and I just couldn't come up with something better.
00:59:11
I was surprised myself, but he is.
00:59:17
He waas 91st all time.
00:59:23
He sees me 91st all decade, last decade, of the best player, his he's been like I said earlier, he was the best non quarterback in the NFC East, according to play.
00:59:39
Pro football.
00:59:40
Focus wins above replacement.
00:59:43
He really has a resume.
00:59:45
He really has talent and he's really underrated.
00:59:49
Um, I don't think that brown situations help him.
00:59:54
I think they'll be really interesting to see if, if there will be a re emergence of the Brown says, Yeah, I could buy it.
01:00:01
My thing is gonna happen.
01:00:02
I'm saying I could buy it.
01:00:05
Those will be storylines that we will watch from the other fell.
01:00:10
Hopefully, it will happen.
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Preseason, Because we always have to do that at ESPN, you know, give us your prediction to make us look like idiots.
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Was Astros and National with the Astros winning, Given the fact that both of those teams still look like there in the mix for that eventuality, I'm gonna stick with that.
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The men on the field called it the 20 semi walking 10 walking into the end zone, and the Chiefs are gonna be going to Miami.
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What is up, SportsCastr.
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Sorry about the technical delays in the beginning, along with my good friend Gov.
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Shimoff is joining Dove in the moment of truth.
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Think this thing's gonna work it high doing? I'm doing great.
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This this whole video started this whole video started you in on our great shot.
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We were having a discussion which started with the e.
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I believe Dobie claiming eagles are one of the best teams Yada, yada, yada going through a whole bunch of stuff, by the way, welcome out, Michael Mercy.
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Adeline Laura, 38 eyes exports to this broadcast.
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Thank you for joining.
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And we got onto the topic of this Odo beckon a top five wide receiver.
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And it really started when I thought was interesting about it.
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Waas, I've got So I've got this double.
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That should be better Now, You know, you're not hearing me twice more tech difficulties.
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It was It was just so money tensions, that conversation, like Toby like it's so hard just to even go back so hard Getting of those coming so hard getting of those.
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Uh uh Yeah, you are just coming through.
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That's good.
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Now liken that part.
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Sell Doby.
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You and I kind of really disagreed on this one.
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And I have changed my claim up a little bit.
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So I mean, I think you see.
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But let's just start off with who are the best receivers in the NFL.
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And I think we both agreed here.
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DeAndre Hopkins, definitely top five NFL wide receiver.
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Absolutely.
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Um, for me, of my top five would probably Hopkins, uh, Michael Thomas.
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But with him right there with you, I released the farm.
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Dig.
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Okay, we'll get more compact digs.
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All right.
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Uh, we think that after that, after that re probably be welcome at epic Mild to this broadcast. Thank you for joining.
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I just followed you.
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I think Julio Jones, at least in my mind, is definitely a top five NFL wide receiver.
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Let's see, That's DeAndre Hopkins, Michael Thomas who? These are guys who we both agree upon.
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Julio Jones.
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I have one other one who I mentioned on our chat, and now I am blinking on his name as well.
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Let me just go back and go through some names because I didn't have Otaibi kill and tell me kills a tough because here's the thing was tired.
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Kill Henry.
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Kill makes his money from by being in the slot and slot receivers are pretty hard to judge compared Teoh receivers who are out wide.
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And because you got other slot receivers, guys like Julian Edelman, there are other good slot receivers are just so hard to judge.
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It's interesting to see how that works out.
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You hear Dove E agreeing.
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Really not an easy call.
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How you going, toe judge? I think we both agree. Time kill.
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I mean his speed.
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His athleticism is route running.
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There's reasons why he's in the top five, not just the fact that he's in the slot.
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I mean, investing for his.
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The year, I mean the top wide receiver on Ah, emboldening team.
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Yeah, I mean, so without going more into numbering those guys or who else? We in our top five? Those are the four players who we both agree are in.
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The top five will be has to fund.
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Except And here was my issue when I was naming top when we were going through and we were trying to think, and I was just trying to name top NFL wide receivers, I could not name another top NFL wide receiver higher than Odell Beckham.
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Excuse me in front of Moto back in junior After those four and I was thunderstruck.
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I was like, No way.
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Oh, but I don't think I thought over the deal was top 10.
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I think he was top five.
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Dobie, you're about voice your disagreement.
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What were you saying? I am going to try.
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Look for what I would I I wrote on the create chapter.
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That's, um, there.
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I mean, you got you talked about a guy like Tyler Lockett.
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Let's talk about Tattler.
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Welcome That feels to this podcast.
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Here's my thing with Tyler Lockett, Tyler Lockett Dynamic wide receiver.
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But here's why.
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Tyler lockets great Taylor lock.
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It's great because of this scramble drill.
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He's with his chemistry with Russell Wilson.
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Dazzle makes Tyler Lockett great.
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Uh, do you disagree? No, not at all.
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Like, uh, that's why I think, yeah, yeah, let's get other names after the still be just like that, as methodical as we can while we're I'm dealing with, like, a 1,000,000 different tech difficulties and figuring everything trying to figure everything out.
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Um, but I felt like Tyler Lockett that wasn't a top five wide receiver, because yes, I just didn't think he's not a slot receiver, but I just thought it was.
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His chemistry has scrambled Joe that set him apart.
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I thought, I'm not going to talk about We're not really gonna talk about how the quarterback is making the impact, except we actually will, when it comes down to about Odell Beckham Jr.
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Some incredible stats on that one, but I feel like he's got a good quarterback he's got, but it's a scramble, Jill.
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That makes locking great.
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And by the way, this conversation is not about fantasy football in fantasy football.
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I don't think Odell Beckham's in my top 20 wide receivers.
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Maybe topic, right? Maybe.
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Maybe he's well, what do you have when you have other people like Jarvis Landry on the team? It starts to get divided.
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So I mean, you know, there are other reasons why he's not why he wouldn't be a top top fantasy wide receiver, and that is, I mean, he has other teammates, and we'll talk more about that later.
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But this'll is not a fantasy topic.
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Dobie, you mentioned Stefon Diggs.
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US.
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Talk about Stepan ****s. Here's my thing was to Pondexter.
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Fund digs, incredible speed, pretty good hands leasing out running.
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He's not tough. I bought receiver.
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He's a top five.
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You could make an argument.
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I would vehemently disagree, but you could make an argument.
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Stefon Diggs is a top five fantasy wide receiver.
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Well, but I don't think you you think much of I think it in my top five.
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I meant if I put him there on the, uh, group that I would start more about 15 when I wrote that.
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But you said beginning this broadcast that you had to funded on your top plot.
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Are you recanting that statement? Oh, yeah.
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Sorry. I said that.
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My bad.
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Um, that's all right.
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I have a feeling that we're gonna both be a bunch of statements that we're gonna be recanting throughout this one as we're both figuring this thing out.
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Um, but that so I don't know.
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So yeah, I think we're both in agreement.
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Nasty fund eggs.
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Now, how about Stefon Diggs counterpart Adam feeling? I think No, I think feelings had his dough, but no, I'm he definitely good writer fever.
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Any definitely.
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Your story agreed, but it's not here, not top five.
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Um, how about a guy like Larry Fitzgerald and he fits jail? What? He's He's an incredible NFL wide receiver without a doubt, but he's he's aging NFL wide receiver, and I think he's still very, very good.
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I don't think his top five you could make an argument.
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Top five all time Top five of the decade.
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You can't make an argument Top five.
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Right now we have a country that now that they have Ah, DeAndre Hopkins.
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Yeah, and that's going to unveil B.
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But that could make life.
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It's Jill that much better, because the coverage is gonna be good.
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The defense has to worry so much more about DeAndre Hopkins, the Cardinals in there in that air raid offense.
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Air raid offense, which is when you have a four wide receiver set up most of the time, as that is your base package, you go to offensive package and the That's what the Cardinals run.
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And that's gonna be also guy and I Christian Kirk.
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He's going to probably also have a another phenomenal year, and that will be interesting to see how that's gonna work out as well, right? Also, another person that, uh, I wonder edible earlier DK Metcalf.
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I'm not sure about whom you'd be pretty close to my top five.
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Very good.
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You would put you came back after close your top five.
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Yeah.
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Why? As you I think you just very I don't know.
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I mean, I'm not trying to put on the spot here.
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I'm just really curious.
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I just really like how you plead last year.
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Uh, like, over the thing that you feel, uh, on the film.
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Here's my thing with UK Metcalfe.
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And I think, by the way, welcome at Gunners Lover 1 92 to this broadcast will be Shimoff joining me on this feeling, actually, part of the Browns the Browns Triangle blocking out last part of Dill These name live on SportsCastr.
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I did not talk about my content will do that starting next segment, but we were taught talking is photobox in junior top five wide receiver and we're going to right now.
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Other options still be bought up to came back half.
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Here's my thing with you came that first off coming in going into the draft, I was saying, Do not draft him in the first round for sure And there he was, linked to the to the Ravens And when I said from the Ravens perspective Waas.
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The Ribbons had drafted a guy named Breshad Perriman.
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Not the same guy.
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Not the same intangibles, but similar intangibles to UK Mask.
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Half and not maybe intangibles isn't the right word here.
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Limited route, option injury and injury prone.
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And I didn't I really did not think he came back after Should have got should go to the Ravens and the Ravens didn't take into, SIAC said.
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But, yeah, his game film is good, but Metcalf is a limited route runner.
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He's getting better.
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Don't get me wrong.
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He's getting betters that runner.
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He's got great hands and very, very physical, but he's not.
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He's not polished.
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He's not great.
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He's not dynamic.
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He's not making a big impact.
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And yet you're saying he's a top five wide receiver? Um, I think he's close to it.
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I'm not sure if he is it, but he's he very close, and I think he could become one in the next.
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Here's, I think, definitely has a potential to be. Come on.
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I mean, I'm not going through lists.
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I'm not gone through names yet, but I'm not sure I would even put him in the top 10.
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How much are permanent help. 15.
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And because it is, it is a little bit early.
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Um, just to be judging that stuff, and I'm actually curious.
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What word? DK Metcalf stats.
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Do you happen to know? No. I don't know.
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Let me take a look.
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Yeah, I mean, I'm trying to pull them up.
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Also, you probably have a little bit faster because my computer is running a whole bunch of stuff.
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I'm going to need to filter this, um, here.
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So for, uh, he had 58 receptions, 900 yards.
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What's that? Yards? Perception.
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Um, and we're gonna math 15.5.
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Okay, that's a great arts perception.
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Um, his catch percentage 58 which is no great, right? I mean, um okay, Yeah.
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And then refuting urine per game of 56.
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3 or no.
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Feel pretty? Yeah.
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Forget? Yeah.
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I mean, not have a bladder season. I'm sorry.
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Not yet has a potential.
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Not yet.
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We're, um who some other guys we mentioned away.
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Um, I got didn't mention Julian Edelman.
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No, I don't think Yeah.
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Yeah.
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When I was writing up the thing on the cheddar, I thought about a moment like that.
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I mean, look at the stats.
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100 receptions, 1117 yards.
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Six touchdowns he had.
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He was first on Recep.
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What is this? That receptions.
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But I would pretend I would know what that is.
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Okay.
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Receiving.
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Oh, Hell had 54 receiving first downs, I thought.
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I think it'll be interesting to see how he does without Tom Brady.
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It's not a top five NFL wide receiver.
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He's a slot receiver.
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We talked about how it's hard to judge guys out of the slot and I don't know.
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I don't think I know.
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I think Julian Edelman is starting on the decline.
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So yeah, I mean, I think that he did great with Tom Brady, but And we'll feeling with, uh, Justin him? Yeah.
00:20:56
I mean, that would be interesting to see who some other guys Dobie that you that you were saying to go above Odell Beckham.
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Um, do you talk about a term? We didn't know this was a name that you threw out on the list that shocked me.
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There were other names you put on the list, and I will pull up that list eventually.
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But Terry McLaurin, you're telling me, Turn me clones attack.
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Five NFL wide receiver not know what? You guys made it easier for you.
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Let's make this easier.
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You're telling me Terry McLaurin is better than Odell Beckham Jr.
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Wherever those two are wrecked.
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How? I don't know.
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I don't think that, uh I don't think that'll Buckingham.
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Like, I think he's great for the most part of catching, obviously in great hands.
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But I think that after the catch, um oh, no.
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I think after after you capture a great don't you know what pro football focus is you're looking at right now? Uh, well, you have an account on there.
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I know.
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I'm looking at the, uh was there looking pro football reference.
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I use that one Also.
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Profootballfocus is a site on.
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Yes, I'm giving that.
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I guess I'm giving them an ad right now, which is basically I mean, they have their own scouting methods and their own ranking methods about everything in the NFL.
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Definitely one of their very, very good with that's very good stats.
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And I saw a couple of interesting things when I was looking for this when I was looking when I was prepping in the last half hour before the show Live on SportsCastr with Gilbey Shimoff.
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Okay, so most valuable NFC East players over the last five years.
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Pro Accord to pro football focus wins above replacement number one. Dak Prescott.
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Number two costing once.
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Number three.
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Kurt Customs number 40 line Manning.
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They'll tell the quarterbacks of all of the every team in the NFC East.
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And this one was this tweet published.
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This was posted in June.
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So this is posted for Daisy up and then right after those four quarterbacks and desks, best player in the NFC East was Odell Beckham Jr.
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What you mean I don't know? Ah, it's a good point.
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I am.
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I think that if you look at the stuff from last year when you with on the Brown versus when he was on the, uh, Giants are very different because we're not looking at them.
00:23:41
Also, when you look at his capture tenets when 2014 you know that 70% have been going down, right? Okay, so let's take a look at another step Catchable target percentage of balls that are thrown that he has a shot at catching.
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When he was 2014 through 2018 64.
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9% last year, down almost down over 5% over 5% down a 59.7.
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That's a huge drop off, and Baker Mayfield last year stunk.
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There is no other way to say it.
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This is This was a Browns team that was the darlings of the NFL.
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You heard the audio in the beginning.
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If you were here if you weren't repeated for you.
00:24:27
Jerry Sandusky, voice of the Raymond's when he was on my podcast, said, When we were previewing your Browns last year, the Browns undeniably most talents and seeming the A F C North.
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But someone's going to beat the Browns.
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It's gonna whose and who will be? Will it be the Browns, or will it be another team? It was the Browns.
00:24:49
The Browns beat themselves, and Odell Beckham Jr has just not had a chance to put up the stats.
00:24:56
He put up with an aging Eli Manning in New York, right? But, I mean, the only on the person that he really sharing, uh, reception with with him and Jarvis Landry.
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After that, Nick checked down, connected with running back.
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If you can't trust checked out.
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Yeah, David Gilkey if you come out.
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But even joke without for a lot of life here, was it really? Yeah.
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Thank you anyway, that feel like uh huh.
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I did not even realize that.
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Who else? I mean, you're going family team.
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Know that Calloway on? Yeah.
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Now down starting.
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I'm starting just to look for names.
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But Jarvis Landry nodal back from junior to very, very talented receivers.
00:25:44
Neither had great Here's last year.
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Neither had great years last year.
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And the thing waas How much of that was their fault? And how much of that do you blame on odor out? Excuse me on Baker Mayfield.
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I think a lot.
00:26:01
I've been love it, but you'll have to look at defense.
00:26:04
Look, we're looking very good.
00:26:05
Of course I'm the on what we go with, but do you think with, uh with, uh, Myles Garrett for the silvery for the defense and, uh, definitely There.
00:26:17
What do you mean? Well, he was a big part of that defense.
00:26:22
Well, year.
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So I mean, I'm not saying it's all his fault, but offensively, Baker Mayfield not getting him to football, And when it has to stop in a good throw if you're barely.
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If you're not heading 60% on catchable targets, that's not great.
00:26:40
As the NFL draft, sir, you need to be hitting 60% completion percentage to be good.
00:26:44
I mean, that's a very minimal and I don't know what Baker, Mayfield.
00:26:50
Completion percentage.
00:26:51
I can look that up right now.
00:26:55
Um, thinker.
00:26:56
Mayfield Completion percentage.
00:26:59
You gonna the 59.
00:27:00
4? He wasn't getting the job done.
00:27:04
It wasn't close.
00:27:06
22 touchdowns.
00:27:07
21 interception of a quarterback rating of 78.
00:27:11
Almost 79.
00:27:12
So called 79.
00:27:14
Thank you May feel stunk.
00:27:16
Baker Mayfield was the reason the Browns were bad.
00:27:18
He wasn't the only reason.
00:27:19
I think he had a horrific what? Um, offensive system.
00:27:23
I thought the has made a horrific decision when they chose their coach after their 2018 season.
00:27:30
I thought the Browns messed up big time in the front office.
00:27:35
What? Right.
00:27:36
I mean, watching a video, you know what we're saying? I know watching a video like, uh of the, you know, the brown thing that they have on you too now, like making the ground or something.
00:27:47
Oh, the hell, I get furious being like a theory that they put out every year about you call building the Browns on everyone the common flu.
00:27:55
Like, Why do you get afraid of kitchen? Because kitchen, it seems like a great guy and a black hang around with may not agree, coach.
00:28:02
For you, Not a coach type where he like yelling at you like younger feels? Yeah.
00:28:08
I mean, I just didn't understand why they didn't keep their interim head coach.
00:28:11
And I'm blinking on the name.
00:28:13
Whose interim coach in 2018.
00:28:16
I'm not a good look.
00:28:18
Um I mean, the head coach in Alice commits to fan ski.
00:28:22
Um, was Williams Gregg Williams? Yeah.
00:28:32
That was like, Why not? Why? What? Why not keep him? No, But I have.
00:28:41
Yeah, I mean, they I mean, why not? I mean, it worked that have worked big time.
00:28:49
They had browser gone on a run that they hadn't gone on for the legs off in many a year.
00:28:56
The Browns were competitive.
00:28:57
They were one game away.
00:28:59
They were one play away from having a even record and was all because of Baker Mayfield and was all because of the offensive system.
00:29:08
And it was all because of everything that have worked.
00:29:13
And then they went away from what worked and they brought up a guy.
00:29:16
And so maybe you make that decision so you bring up your interim offensive coordinator in Freddie Kitchens and making that coach and that completely sales.
00:29:28
But it wasn't just that the that failed Baker Mayfield failed also, and I think that that's what 00 B.
00:29:39
J stats have dropped off.
00:29:42
Where do you think, Uh, where you think what you think could happen with Baker Mayfield.
00:29:45
If you continue to play like this, I am.
00:29:50
I think we'll be interesting to see what the new head coach, how that's gonna work out.
00:29:53
I think now he's got Austin Hooper, former Falcons tight, and so I think that's gonna give him another really good option, and I think they can make you will improve.
00:30:01
I don't think he will stay static if he stay static.
00:30:06
That's good question, I think depends on how good the Bangles are, because I think even right now, with Baker Mayfield stats from last year, Browns have a chance at a playoff spot.
00:30:23
Not a great chance, but a chance.
00:30:26
I think of Baker improves a little bit and I got a Really they've got They really have a chance.
00:30:31
I'm going to come up for a wild card for the division.
00:30:34
I am.
00:30:35
I know I did see an interesting take that had said the steals.
00:30:37
We're gonna win the division.
00:30:38
Um, I definitely disagreed with that one.
00:30:42
Alright, Dobie nine.
00:30:43
I'm going to step aside.
00:30:44
We'll come back.
00:30:45
Continue this conversation is Odell Beckham Jr.
00:30:47
A top five wide receiver.
00:30:49
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00:34:38
Oh, no.
00:34:39
Back We were talking about who is better than Odell Beckham Jr. We are list.
00:34:44
We both agree on Waas.
00:34:47
DeAndre Hopkins, Michael Thomas, Julio Jones.
00:34:49
Terry kill? Yeah, those were pretty obvious.
00:34:53
Don't we brought up another good point until you have a phone call and w saying that you brought up a really good point in the break about who would have been in front of O B J.
00:35:10
Who we both would have agreed upon if he was still playing.
00:35:14
Yeah, and Tony around.
00:35:16
I mean, Antonio Brown all those rumors doesn't think anything's happening with that, but yeah, Antonio Brown, he was a star.
00:35:25
Still has the potential to be a star.
00:35:28
All right, so going back to the guys who are playing, though, CD lamp.
00:35:32
You put him on your list earlier.
00:35:36
Yeah, obviously we still have to see how it getting play.
00:35:39
I'm down with.
00:35:40
Kind of like how I think you will do, I think.
00:35:44
Uh huh.
00:35:45
So you're telling me CD lamb a la vi.
00:35:46
That it? I mean, I could hear it, because what we've talked about how bad the brown I'm in Baker medical situation is right now.
00:35:56
Um, right.
00:35:59
I mean, of course, that we felt if he was gonna be, because of course, they're busted.
00:36:03
You have? I mean, just just from just look at O b j staff for a second off last year.
00:36:10
74 receptions over 1000 yards, four touchdowns.
00:36:16
I mean, the an average of 14 years perception.
00:36:19
That's not a bad stats.
00:36:22
In fact, that's a great steps.
00:36:25
I mean, like touches.
00:36:26
He only had four touchdowns, and that was with a bad quarterback.
00:36:31
No way.
00:36:32
CD lamp is better than that, right? I'm gonna I'm your for reception at the same If you did it. 15.
00:36:43
Just 14.
00:36:45
14.
00:36:46
So in do you came back after we came back. Captain.
00:36:51
Have 1000 yards.
00:36:54
Hey, Metcalf's didn't have a horrific quarterback.
00:36:56
D Kim Medcalf, actually, one of the best quarterbacks last year.
00:37:01
What a fair, Uh, do that.
00:37:03
What about CD lamps can apart.
00:37:05
You bought him up also.
00:37:07
Amari Cooper.
00:37:10
Yeah.
00:37:11
I mean, I think that he could have a much bigger than needed last year.
00:37:14
Uh, how much bigger the with CD land who you're also predicting south of the year.
00:37:20
Yeah, I'm It's everything without an eagle fan.
00:37:23
But I think that they have a strong possibility of taking to the division.
00:37:28
I think it had, uh, if they could have, uh, week play, I think Zico play Sofia The corona does Coverdell the out of his system by September. Hopefully.
00:37:40
Hopefully, I'm in as an eagle stand for you.
00:37:44
Hopefully not, but as a person and as a player, hopefully it will be out of the system, which I have to imagine.
00:37:51
It will be, um and he was a couple of the one Henry rugs.
00:37:58
This name completely threw me CD lamb.
00:38:00
I could I would hear more than Henry rocks.
00:38:03
Not like I hear city land, like at all.
00:38:06
What about Henry rugs? Maybe You think he'd be better in the Total Beckham Jr? Um and they're not love.
00:38:16
I mean, I could be wrong on this, and I can't think of another, uh, the other.
00:38:22
Never another Raider is wide receiver than her.
00:38:26
That great, obviously of each other in the first round.
00:38:28
They're expecting him to be a big part of the Boston Acura.
00:38:35
Even the Raiders believe self Tyrell Williams? I believe so.
00:38:40
I can double check these But those are names that came up immediately.
00:38:45
Let's go.
00:38:46
The Raiders deaths The Los Vegas Riggers taps chart still seems weird.
00:38:51
You can get treated.
00:38:53
Yeah, a Tyrell Williams.
00:38:56
And then, of course, Darren Waller.
00:38:58
Former Ravens like torturing, tied at national.
00:39:01
I remember this from when the Ravens played the Raiders.
00:39:05
Actually, when the Ravens played the Raiders in Oakland bunch of years ago.
00:39:10
Joe Flacco era.
00:39:11
It's like I'm not.
00:39:12
Three years ago, I know Michael Crabtree had, like, a deep touchdown.
00:39:15
The game Brandon card gave up on the coverage at the Derek Carr was gambling around and, you know, it was the residence.
00:39:23
Malia, actually, never mind. Different.
00:39:25
Different backup tight end.
00:39:26
But yeah, pretty sure.
00:39:27
Darren Waller, How distant with the Ravens, at least in training camp.
00:39:31
Um remember liking.
00:39:32
And then And now the Raiders really like him.
00:39:36
I mean, he had a great year last year for them.
00:39:39
See doubt.
00:39:40
Those were those The only reasons for saying Henry rugs.
00:39:44
Yeah, but even if you look enough in the glory and I know that the needle family, he wasn't that great last year, I didn't It's on the field, but he wasn't her everything.
00:39:56
Everyone was, uh, injured to go on the field.
00:39:58
Boston, I mean, but like I said, Down, Wallet had over 1000 receiving yards last year, right? I get it. That end up.
00:40:06
He's attended, and but we are talking about receivers, but you're saying, But he's still getting a lot of those receiving yards, right? And But there was.
00:40:17
I mean, he was my thing with drugs and my immediate reaction to you saying rugs, rugs was drafted by the Raiders, and that was a reach.
00:40:26
If you remember, people were surprised.
00:40:29
He took the Raiders, took Henry rugs.
00:40:31
Then here's why they took on drugs, and I apologize.
00:40:33
I don't remember the exact reason off the top my head general reason why is he fits the scheme.
00:40:39
I believe it's because that they want that.
00:40:42
I believe it's because they they wanted on the vertical game.
00:40:45
That's what John Cornyn likes to dio.
00:40:47
And that's what Henry Rugs gives them more than any other wide receiver more than Jared Judy more than C.
00:40:53
D. Lamb. And I believe that's why they took him again.
00:40:55
I don't remember the exact scheme off the top of my head but that they took him specifically because he would fit their scheme.
00:41:04
And only because it, right.
00:41:07
Well, John Thune openly like said that he likes to have Ah, fast receivers.
00:41:13
Speed is definitely valued on that Las Vegas Rangers team.
00:41:16
Still sounds weird.
00:41:19
Let me just make sure I were complete the un muted.
00:41:23
Still be.
00:41:25
Yeah.
00:41:26
Yeah, Well, good.
00:41:27
Um, have me scared for a second.
00:41:31
Okay, so there goes one off another one off the list.
00:41:34
My government's this one I I could hear a really argument for.
00:41:40
Yeah, I'm a very big my Kevin Foon.
00:41:42
Uh, I'm not else.
00:41:44
I'm in another guy down there.
00:41:46
Chris Godwin in Tampa.
00:41:48
Yeah.
00:41:49
I mean to really talented wide receivers.
00:41:54
Um, right.
00:41:55
When I let go Food, water fever, they think the dealer.
00:42:01
Yeah, that they're very good.
00:42:03
Um, my Kevin, the very big, uh, physic wide receiver.
00:42:09
Re good.
00:42:10
Really pushed him out of the way.
00:42:11
I mean, I've read slow.
00:42:13
I could hear my Mike Evans being better than total back in junior.
00:42:17
I'm not saying I agree.
00:42:20
I'm not sure that I agree.
00:42:22
I really They go Beckhams a generational talent.
00:42:28
I really dio I think he's not.
00:42:31
Statistically, he might not be a generational talent, but talent wise, skill wise impact he makes on the field despite his lack of quarterbacking.
00:42:42
This bite a browns, um, exploding everything.
00:42:49
Everything is going wrong for the Browns.
00:42:51
Despite that he puts up over 1000 yards.
00:42:53
Despite that, he's a great NFL wide receiver, I think.
00:43:00
Oh, yeah, no doubt he had agreed by receiver on that.
00:43:07
I'm not sure about whom might have five, but obviously not.
00:43:11
We're not Top 10 Captain.
00:43:15
Like you feel like you see myself putting him in.
00:43:17
I we have yet to officially put one name over him except for those top four guys we talked about, right? So the other perfect.
00:43:28
So obviously we are happening in.
00:43:31
I turned around because he's not our team.
00:43:33
And the very good chance he won't be right.
00:43:36
Um, another thing that I like to you.
00:43:40
Why Hilton to my Helton's another, But having a guy who I thought who I was thinking, maybe he goes above O.
00:43:47
B. J T. Y.
00:43:49
Hilton is not had great quarterbacking, either.
00:43:53
He's not going.
00:43:54
Hopefully now we will with a full of rivers, but last year he wasn't.
00:43:59
I'm not sure how good Philip Rivers will be.
00:44:02
What's the guarantee? Philip Rivers does great good point ago and yeah, I mean, like, Philip Rivers didn't do well last year on the Chargers, right? Well, Erica, I mean, I do think T y Hilton is a re be good player.
00:44:28
I think he's an amazing player.
00:44:30
I don't know.
00:44:31
Do you want Helton's? Interesting? I could I could hear myself put into White House in a bubble.
00:44:35
BJ.
00:44:36
I still don't think I would know I could hear it.
00:44:39
I'm not sure I would make a big deal out of it.
00:44:42
That could be a preferential opinion, but I don't know.
00:44:49
I mean, why helps? It's good, right? I mean, I think regardless, I think you've, uh, unrelated on, uh, under a little bit.
00:44:59
He is especially.
00:45:01
I mean, what he didn't last year without engine love was really impressive.
00:45:09
I feel like Hollywood Brown of the Baltimore Ravens.
00:45:14
Everyone's predicting he'll have a breakout year this year.
00:45:18
What do you think? I don't know.
00:45:21
I mean, to be honest, I don't know much about him.
00:45:24
Uh, I want to play, but I don't think Hollywood does better than LBJ? No, I don't think so.
00:45:35
I think Holly wouldn't commit.
00:45:36
You could He could have a top 10 statistical season, I think.
00:45:40
Hollywood Brown.
00:45:41
She's available in the 2nd 3rd round here.
00:45:43
Draft. You better gobble him up.
00:45:46
I mean, I don't think is the first time fantasy draft pick not made a draft board dove eu there.
00:45:54
I think they will be just left.
00:45:59
Do we shut off? I think that was gone, and I can't really get back online right now because we got some.
00:46:07
I've got technical issues on my side.
00:46:09
Looks like Joey's got technical issues on his side.
00:46:11
I can still talk, though.
00:46:13
Um, be I don't think Hollywood Brown is the top is the top five NFL wide receiver.
00:46:19
Like I said, maybe top 10 I think and think he could be really good.
00:46:24
I don't know, said the question was how goods all over again.
00:46:28
How good is Odell Beckham Jr.
00:46:31
Despite a bad quarterbacking six issue despite I thought a bad Brown's front office and a Brown and I did not like the Browns coaching staff last year and the coaching decisions.
00:46:46
Despite that he put up over 1000 yards Oh, BJ's a generally strong talent.
00:46:53
I'm not sure if he's a top five NFL wide receiver.
00:46:57
I know I've had half.
00:47:01
We've been playing. Devil's Advocate would still be here.
00:47:05
Let me just go to this.
00:47:07
Let's go through this right now.
00:47:09
I mean, just every team just toe see if see if I'm missing anyone.
00:47:13
A f C North Brown, A J.
00:47:15
Green A J.
00:47:19
Green.
00:47:20
What about a J.
00:47:24
Green? When he's on the field, he's a nightmare, But he's not often on the field.
00:47:31
I'm not leaving.
00:47:32
And I'm not even considering Tyler board, by the way, not even considering but A J.
00:47:38
Green.
00:47:39
I could hear legit argument again if if he was consistently on the field shirt A J green's better than no, no back.
00:47:46
Um, actually, I don't know.
00:47:52
I don't know when you want to bet that still be sending me a text message saying at an issue, OK? No, that's someone else telling me, um, banners.
00:48:05
Okay, try this.
00:48:08
Hopefully that'll make that better telling May I was, um and so it s a g green.
00:48:21
If he's there, I think you could do great.
00:48:23
I need to meet this.
00:48:25
Um put it on vibrate and thanks, Daddy.
00:48:33
For the, um, a device.
00:48:36
I can't actually see myself because I'm locked out.
00:48:38
I think it's a computer issue yet again.
00:48:41
Um, but so OK, so continue to the it's you know, it talked about how they would Brown.
00:48:48
We said, No stealer to do Smith Schuster not buying it.
00:48:52
Um And then we're talking about the Browns.
00:48:55
LBJ Jarvis Landry is not better than Noto Beckham.
00:48:58
He's good, but he's not better and see East Julian Undermine.
00:49:01
We talked about him.
00:49:02
No Bill Stefon Diggs.
00:49:03
We talked about no to the Bills of any other great wide receivers that I can think of Off Tom Ahead Jets.
00:49:09
Jamison Crowder No.
00:49:11
Ah, Parker Down in Miami now, not not even close.
00:49:17
Let's go.
00:49:18
The F C South NFC South had not talked a lot about We talked to, um a J.
00:49:22
Brown on the Titans.
00:49:24
Don't let me know.
00:49:25
By the way, if you're back no, don't be saying is gonna Dobie is gonna, um, re join soon A. J.
00:49:38
Brown on the tight ends.
00:49:39
I think he's got the potential to be top of NFL wide receiver, but he's not there yet.
00:49:46
Um oh, gosh.
00:49:52
Let's, um give me a second.
00:49:59
I must try to re and adobe, and you can hear my sister in the background.
00:50:06
Theoretically, depending on how much us Mike is picking up, will be trying to get back in a minute.
00:50:15
Actually, just accept the tab, because this is I would not hopefully get, um, let it will be back in momentarily.
00:50:29
Continue to that F c south.
00:50:31
Um, who else Who? Also there? Texans.
00:50:35
They traded away DeAndre Hopkins.
00:50:37
Incredibly stupid decision.
00:50:38
I've talked about that many a time.
00:50:40
Not talking about it now.
00:50:44
Who else? Who else? Those colts we talked about T y Hilton Jaguars deejay shark No.
00:50:51
A s.
00:50:52
West.
00:50:53
Talked about every kill.
00:50:54
Talked a little bit about Sammy Watkins.
00:50:57
Ah, hell, stop five. He's better than over Jay.
00:50:59
Sammy Watkins is not Chargers Kenyan.
00:51:04
Allen's good Keenan Allen, uh, get Allen's really underrated.
00:51:11
Um, I don't think better.
00:51:15
I think he's underrated. I think it's good.
00:51:17
I think he's not better.
00:51:20
Um, also nice Iwas We talked about the Raiders.
00:51:27
One other team, the Broncos, your Judy Courtland, sudden, cruel and sevens got a lot of potential.
00:51:34
Not top five NFL wide receiver them to the NFC NFC East.
00:51:38
Anyone on the Eagles know Cowboys? We talked about Omar Cooper and CD lamb.
00:51:46
Uh, Redskins term McLaurin.
00:51:49
Absolutely not of the corn does have a lot of potential.
00:51:55
Um, and who is the last team in the n F C East? I'm going to remember it like one second.
00:52:06
Hopefully got Eagles, Cowboys, Redskins, Giants.
00:52:13
Known of giants.
00:52:15
Um, so that's NFC East.
00:52:20
NFC South talked about Michael Thomas.
00:52:22
Michael Thomas is in that top five.
00:52:24
No one else on the same.
00:52:25
So buccaneers.
00:52:26
We talked about Krista, uh, Mike Evans and Chris Godwin.
00:52:30
Excuse me.
00:52:31
Um, and both of those I could hear an argument for more Mike Evans and Chris beyond win.
00:52:42
Statistically, they're both great.
00:52:44
I'll be interesting to see how that does with Tom Brady in Tampa Bay.
00:52:50
Gonna I mean, that's gonna kind of limit vertical range down the field.
00:52:53
Having Brady there.
00:52:55
That will be interesting to see.
00:52:58
Um, he was talking about Then who else? And then hold your Jones we talked about and the and anyone of the Panthers Did you have, um d j Moore? No.
00:53:20
An F C North.
00:53:22
Like Kings.
00:53:23
Who do they have? Let's talk about all the first round draft picks that Aaron Rodgers has.
00:53:27
A wide receiver.
00:53:31
I could talk.
00:53:32
Um, Vikings.
00:53:35
I am feelin No, we talked about him.
00:53:38
Lions, Kenny Golladay, Kenny Golladay know his good because not tough.
00:53:46
And the last team the Bears.
00:53:47
Allen Robinson.
00:53:48
I could, you know.
00:53:50
I mean, he's good.
00:53:51
I don't think its top five NFL wide receiver I don't, um Then finally, the NFC West.
00:54:00
We talked about Tyler Lockett.
00:54:01
We talked about he came back after, did not really talk about Cooper Cup.
00:54:04
Robert Woods and the Brennan cooks was now a Texan.
00:54:12
So I guess someone didn't.
00:54:13
Young Texans.
00:54:15
Um, that's gonna hold them back.
00:54:22
Um, just tell Toby something.
00:54:25
Some things you don't to join.
00:54:38
And though it's not to be able to join, um 40 Niners Emmanuel Sanders No Debo Samuels.
00:54:48
No big thanks to delivery for joining.
00:54:54
Um, Cardinals talked about DeAndre.
00:54:59
Hopkins talked about lower if it's jail.
00:55:01
So basically what it's come down to is I don't have someone else I think is better.
00:55:05
They're not really better than or tobacco, Junior.
00:55:07
I can hear guys.
00:55:08
You can make arguments for.
00:55:10
I think I'm really starting to think, Oh, BJ's a tough hop wide receiver.
00:55:15
Maybe you'll tell me more than sample receivers a couple of minutes you could throw in there.
00:55:25
Um, but I don't know.
00:55:28
I think that he's the averages.
00:55:32
Really struggled.
00:55:34
I mean, over Jay's.
00:55:36
I mean, just imagine over J with Daniel Jones for a second.
00:55:39
I think that could be really interesting to see, but I don't know, I don't think I mean, it was in his best interest to go to the Browns.
00:55:52
I don't think that's, I mean grounds very counted.
00:55:54
They've just not been able to put it together.
00:55:56
It's only been one year they will see if they turn around this year.
00:56:00
I don't think they can completely turn around.
00:56:03
I think that deficits too big that the A F C notes to talented.
00:56:07
I think they've got a shot at a wild card spot, maybe the sixth or seventh wildcard spot.
00:56:11
I think I mean, just take a look at the A F C North for a second.
00:56:14
That's actually where the conversation with does it started.
00:56:17
F C North first NFC East A.
00:56:20
F c.
00:56:21
I mean a F C North Steelers nine wins with their second and third string quarterback.
00:56:26
Nine wins with their second or third string quarterback.
00:56:29
One.
00:56:30
I mean, they were.
00:56:31
It was a once and then pursues night.
00:56:33
Um, they were real eagles.
00:56:35
And if the new NFL playoff format have been in place last year, they would have made the playoffs.
00:56:45
Got the Ravens 14 into coming off of a historic season.
00:56:50
No reason why they shouldn't repeat as a f C North champions.
00:56:54
By the way, do you see everyone see the video about LaMotte with Mark Jackson? Um, diving over that jet ski kind of got, um, just think about this for a second.
00:57:05
Mark Jackson was running on sand and he saw he was wearing flip flops.
00:57:13
And yet that's a kind of athleticism, that kind of acceleration, the kind of burst of speed he was showing, and I don't know who he was playing.
00:57:23
Um, he is fine after that encounter with the Jet ski, but it's gonna be another fund season for Baltimore and their fans because Lamar Jackson's going back in full force, and I think I tweeted this out way back.
00:57:45
The only thing that could stop the Ravens from a Super Bowl.
00:57:47
This year is covert.
00:57:51
So be interesting to see how that works out as well.
00:57:55
And then you got Cincinnati Bangles.
00:57:58
It's like if a J.
00:57:59
Green's healthy, I mean, he's a wide receiver.
00:58:04
And if a J green Celtic them inside, the board's gonna have some good statistics, tell our efforts, gonna have some good statistics.
00:58:11
They got your mixing, um, promising Young running back.
00:58:15
So the Bangles are good as well.
00:58:17
That have seen note is a really, really stacked.
00:58:20
I don't think we'll see four times golden tiles from any division for a while.
00:58:25
But if there was a division where I had to say four teams to go to the playoffs from either NFC South and that's the West or a F C North.
00:58:37
So I'm just talking a little bit about those Rams wide receivers Robert Woods and Cooper Cup.
00:58:44
I think that both underrated, but I don't think that they're better than normal back junior physically.
00:58:51
Bottom line the women in this video No one is better.
00:58:56
I mean, oh no Beckham Jr.
00:58:58
You might say he's not a top five NFL wide receiver, but he's definitely a top 10 definitely, And I was.
00:59:06
I was really surprised when I was listening receivers earlier and I just couldn't come up with something better.
00:59:11
I was surprised myself, but he is.
00:59:17
He waas 91st all time.
00:59:23
He sees me 91st all decade, last decade, of the best player, his he's been like I said earlier, he was the best non quarterback in the NFC East, according to play.
00:59:39
Pro football.
00:59:40
Focus wins above replacement.
00:59:43
He really has a resume.
00:59:45
He really has talent and he's really underrated.
00:59:49
Um, I don't think that brown situations help him.
00:59:54
I think they'll be really interesting to see if, if there will be a re emergence of the Brown says, Yeah, I could buy it.
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