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to you as o expect going forward here for the N D.
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A.
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But that and obviously, just what some of these big dates are going to be.
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Four for the Brooklyn Nets and the NBA overall.
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So we'll be seeing him in just a second here and at three.
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Assumed before Doug joint in the day thinks that we're kind of on the table or something.
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Structures that we knew as ignoring officially does join in.
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How are you? I'm good, all right, Great.
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Was just letting everybody know that it's official.
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So the season is coming back.
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We we knew this.
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When I talked about on the podcast.
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We assumed it was gonna be this 22 team format, which is, and then all the key dates have come out as well.
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The 31st was the was kind of the assumed.
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So now all the official wants says, though June 30th will be the official training camp.
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July 7th, they'll travel to Orlando the 31st of July.
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I'll be a part of the season, and then just some of the other dates that they also put out there were artillery Teams will be the free agency period on.
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And then the 2020 21 target is November 10th for training camp.
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December 1st for opening night, which can flex depending on how the playoffs go.
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Yeah, um, it z kind of what we thought it was gonna be, And it's really not surprising.
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There's a couple Nets related things I think that are important that are a little different than I think.
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The original proposal, Um, if I'm reading it correctly but because I think under the original proposal it was like the Nets, that last win against the Lakers was going to sort of ensure them to be in the playoffs because they had one less loss because they were the 70.
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But that's not really gonna be the case.
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Yeah, now it's Samantha.
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Structure looks as we talked about the add those extra six teams.
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It's the five from the West with one from the East, just the Washington Wizards.
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And then there's going to be an eight game season.
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Essentially, that's that's the last that they're going to give you eight games to kind of conclude this season.
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Confirm all of the seeding and the requirements going to be that the ninth seed needs to be within 3.
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5 games off the eighth seed in order to then get a play in game scenario to an act.
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So the Nets right now are in the seven seed, but doesn't mean that over these eight games they can't find themselves falling back into the A C or the nine seed.
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So theoretically, over eight games, they could fall all the way behind the Washington wizard.
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I guess you would say you'd like to think that won't be the case.
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And you also don't know since its 22 teams you don't know what the schedules are gonna look like because now it's gonna be completely different.
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Much is picking up whatever eight games you had on the schedule because they're missing eight teams from leagues as well.
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Well, so and it's interesting, too, because so, uh, from scheduling standpoint one, the Nets are gonna be underdogs in almost every game.
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They play here outside the Magic and the Wizards, and they wouldn't be favored.
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I mean, this is assuming Kevin Durant doesn't come back.
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TOC came out and said something interesting today Journal, if you want to know about that, but um, the, uh You have to figure they're going to underdogs in just about every game now the the level of which they're underdogs or the amount of which there are.
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No, it will probably vary a little bit, but they're one of the I mean, there's no doubt about their one of the worst teams in this group.
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There's really that's that's not a hot take or anything like that.
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So, But again, Washington is is the worst team, Um, all of these teams.
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So it's it.
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Yeah, we could see we could see each team go on eight Now will be interesting. Teoh.
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Interesting.
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Also, to see if any of them on the schedule and they have been play each other.
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Odds would say they probably would.
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Those would be massive leverage games if they were to play what Orlando and or Washington each once those would be essentially the most important games they could play.
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I honestly, they brought the rest outside of those two games.
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I'm actually wondering if any of the games for them it would even matter if those two are on the schedule.
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Mathematically, mathematically, basically, a wind over Washington would essentially ensure that Washington could not make up that four game gap.
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Right? So, like that, let there be depending on.
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I don't think Mass perfect on that, but it's really close.
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And so it'll be interesting to be really interesting.
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See where these schedules lands, because, really, this could just be the tale of one or two games for the Nets.
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Now they're gonna play all eat.
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But it could be the only to one or two actually really matter when it all comes down to it, which is weird.
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But that's just kind of the way the well, that's where we are here.
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Well, it's interesting because then, even if say, they were to take on the Wizards in the Orlando Magic in the schedule and lose these Games like they could easily find themselves than flipped into the ninth position and needing to play their way in.
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So going from what felt like, as we have talked about on the podcast, a relative relative position of strength in terms of like to be almost impossible for the Nets not to make the playoffs now, this is that he came many season conclusion could be the most difficult task for them to make sure they solidify it.
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Do they talked about out west to that? This idea of one the of the pelicans involved there? I looked at that over on.
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Ah, take mobile in the article around the pelicans and saying, Well, you look at those trying to schedule and it's something that I think C.
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J.
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McCollum came out.
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And the trouble is, they cannot seem to get out of their own way when it comes to their commentary around how this goes back.
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But for the pelicans, they had a really favorable schedule remaining easiest easiest in the N B A among playoff contenders.
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And now they're gonna now they're gonna be in a position off.
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Well, the teams are gonna play, no matter how it shakes out.
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It's gonna be a lot more difficult for them to accomplish this goal, too.
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So it feels like there's some sense of they want to be fair to the teams that are close enough, quote unquote.
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And also it's going to be difficult for any of them to really move the needle on this off the But the difference is that playing game right, that playing games is a needle mover or the play on the plan.
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Best of It's a weird structure and I don't think that Sorry if you said that I was reading something real quick when you when you opened up the, um The playing game was the top of the eighth seeds used to just win one game, and the 90 reptile went to straight Tito.
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Yes, you overtake the eighth seed.
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So that actually does that.
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That's one of the thing.
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Besides all this, that nontraditional that is another very nontraditional factor toe look into is that you kind of just want toe.
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I mean, it would be great to get the A C only have to win the one game, but in the past, that 90 didn't really have a chance like that.
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Now, if you can think you can take two games and you can kind of these teams were pretty equal rights, not it's not outside of anywhere.
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Any one of these teams, Not not the Nets and the Magic and teams like this.
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I don't think they be a favorite to win two straight against any team here but the, um, but a team like the pelicans could so It's like you know they could.
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Simply playing for the ninth seed is good enough that they're all kind of locked up into the same position here.
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But the structure does kind of.
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I know there are behind in the busy schedule, but this structure still allows a decent chance for them to get in the playoffs.
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When you look at, I guess his briefly look out West land carousel with Teal C said.
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But when you look out West, is there a team out of that out of that group that they have now opened it up to with the Blazers, the Pelicans, the Kings, the Spurs, the sons do any of those do you think can a legitimate they could make some noise through? This is really a big needle mover in terms of ultimately, what the playoffs are gonna look like.
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Do you think that our team's gonna fall out? Or a couple of these teams that magic, the Nets, the Grizzlies and the seven seed out there out west? Being the Mavericks, no one's own that matters.
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Take it knocked out whether they have a nice, healthy lead.
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So during those three teams, or any of those three teams knocking it either When it shakes out, do you think which one love of its Well, they're still That's in. Sorry.
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We're kind of playing catch up on this because this just got finalized within the last couple hours to get some of these things.
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I don't even think, you know, we don't even know the schedule right now, but I'm pretty sure one they're keeping it to conferences.
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So it's not there, not there.
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Not receiving after the conference, are they or are they? No.
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No, it's fairly.
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No, they're not.
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I mean, respectively, in the west and that.
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Well, well, actually, I dig honest with you.
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We're doing real time catch up here? No, because they're doing the 88 games that will involve everybody, and then it'll still separate out.
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But so the Grizzlies are the only team out west that could theoretically be in a position to full out of the A.
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C.
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The Mavericks 27 are not going to have any issues there.
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Yeah, so I think like, I don't think No.
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So what I think's gonna end up happening is that almost for sure, the they will still be the seventh and eighth seed in the East.
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Is the Nets in the Magic, right? And and they just have to wait.
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One of those two teams will just have to win one game against the Wizards if they're able to close the gap with their kind of still a dog to do, I would say right, because they're 5.
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5 out now.
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They have to make such a They really have to make such a run.
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I just don't see it happen.
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I actually don't think that we're gonna be.
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I think the East is basically from a mathematical perspective, kind of locked up here.
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I don't think I'm going to do that.
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Would be a risk for the MBA is like schedule the Wizards against the Magic first, that you only be like, immediately start that game.
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If it was his win it, they told us something.
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It's very exciting.
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If they lose, it releases All set.
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You're gonna be training.
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They're gonna be training material for all the rest of these teams anyway.
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So if they're kind of just in there to round things out now, the West is interesting, right? Like 3.
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5 games over a taking over eight games is which is what the difference is now is a lot to make up, right? Okay, so it's like, I just want to be very clear about two things tonight.
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People think like 3.
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5 games, and that's not a lot means that happen for the Grizzlies to maintain the eighth seed.
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So I think that ever actually, probably statistically heavy favorites to continue that eight seed Been that that that 3.
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5 gap, though, that gets the plane that gets the plane scenario that what was that was my next thing.
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My next thing is that they then what may be against some of these teams just be considered underdogs, like even in a two game series with the Pelicans, It's still, it's Look, it's way easier to just win one game than this twin, too.
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So I haven't run all the math on this right now, but I would not.
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The Pelicans would be very interesting.
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I even the Blazers, right? I wouldn't be so worried about the King's whether they were kind of starting to look a little bit better.
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Lead season Spurs.
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I wouldn't be worried about all.
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I don't think that probably end up closing the gap anyway, because they're one of the worst teams here.
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Their favorite will lose a lot of these Games sons to.
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So the there is a definite scenario where the Grizzlies would not would be wanted to stare down, even like a single a double elimination game against the Pelicans.
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I think that would.
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I think, that that 89 almost definitely one of those teams will finish within four games of them.
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And they'll the Grizzlies are, even if they are a heavy favorite to be at least playing that plane.
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I have another call right now.
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It's like when it was one team has to win two and others when one.
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But I'll just call the secrets that play in Siris.
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The Grizzlies are.
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I was almost definitely gonna be playing attacking so that I find to be really interesting.
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And I think for the rest of these teams, just it's just warm ups, right? Just getting their sea legs back under them.
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But they've made they've given enough drama.
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I don't I gotta be honest.
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Yeah, I don't even think they need the drama.
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I don't think these eight games really matter from a drama standpoint.
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I think they're gonna have so much buying just in the fact that they're coming back.
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Everyone's gonna want to see the new style players.
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But without fans, how they're gonna do the audio, how they're going to announce the games.
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You know what's gonna be like on the sidelines.
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I think that is probably enough to sustain whatever this.
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Well, it's eight games each.
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So whatever that no, whatever the number comes to beat the total Games is that, um, I think there's, I think, you know, just about like enough about leaving all this this new, this new environment, a lot stuff. Lead season.
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MBA is usually the dregs anyway, so it's like there's almost no scenario every year where there's very meaningful games.
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In fact, it's the opposite.
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The end of in the NBA seasons can sometimes be.
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I think I said this on a podcast or stream. That's right.
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It's almost like a crime.
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What they do at the end of the season with some of these, it's absolutely just hang time.
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Players play no minutes.
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Superstar, sit out.
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Playoff teams, rest guys, it's really It's a bad product like it's it's really it's really a shame what they do with the end of season.
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So it's not even like you can claim.
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Oh, you're getting a worse end of the season product here and here, and the regular season outside of a few games is awful. It's all right.
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And so it's It's so bad.
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It's the worst of any sport when it comes to this.
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Now they ramp up with this thing.
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Also, when it comes to the playoffs, I get that.
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But I you'll never hear me complaining.
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Oh, some of these games remaining listed most these games, So that's just that's just kind of how it is. Anyway.
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Do you think that you think that this from a schedule standpoint, how they structure it? Do you think that these higher seeded teams for the will they try to have the top six seeds primarily play each other and then try to? If you feel you want to be, if you're going this route than you, I don't know.
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How do you How do you have to go the route of getting competitive balance of the games so that if the team is probably the West can close that gap or maintain that closest, then play against the Grizzlies in that play in Siris.
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But do you want to explain against each other? Do you want to have to play the Lakers? Do the Lakers almost maybe want to get a look at the at the Pelicans and maybe give them an extra loss to avoid them possibly getting into the playoff picture? And the third thing is here is to remember, Is that the pelicans, the Bucks, the Lakers had essentially locked up the one seeds.
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If they play at the full season, right, so, like this was, these teams were going to be the number one seeds.
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Now there's very little after that.
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I'll say this very little advantage to any of these seedings because for the most part, seedings were really important around home court advantage, which no longer exists.
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And so after that, because everything is played in a neutral site now, a huge part.
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Why you wanna have these, why you want to be seated? So I won.
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Of course, you play the worst team in the division and I will say there is massive drop off from the seven seed and in the East from the seventh and eighth seeded.
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There's a nice drop off there, and in the West there's a clear it's clear drop off.
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But for the most part after that, I'm not even sure that of these teams care about seating anymore because of the home, because all they would, I think what I cared about was getting that extra one home game, which isn't even there anymore.
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And at that point, are you really working for the Raptors? That's a bad example.
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If you're the Celtics, are you really working hard to make sure you can play the Pacers instead of the six years that it just doesn't really matter that much anymore? So I don't think it was with the home court advantage.
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I'm not sure it's done, so I think a lot of these games, I think the Lakers and Bucks games are pretty mean, that meaningless.
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They they I don't even see really much in the way of how they could even lose the one seeds at this point.
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The box are basically locked the book so like a 11 game in there that they win one game, another off the one seed.
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So maybe it's the idea, though not about locking the one seed, but just you can beat the pelicans to make sure you look they don't get the A C.
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You can lose to the Grizzlies to maintain that matchup device.
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That's the kind of and I guess you're like this is all warm up for those seeds.
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But maybe look at and say, All right, LeBron, you don't need to play all eight games and, you know, in our warm up.
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But we'll make sure you play a couple of these ones that you say you're ready to go and make sure that we avoid.
00:15:33
Maybe they like the Trailblazers as potentially.
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It's a little bit more of an annoyance.
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And the Grizzlies, however they think about it and just making sure that you avoid those teams getting And likewise.
00:15:41
Like you said, if it's confirmed that Durant's not gonna play for the Nets when this returns, then you're just saying like all right, maybe I want Maybe I'll I'm not worried about beating the next if we can't see the long off on the schedule because they can sit around that 73 seed, and I'll be happy to see them as opposed to.
00:15:56
I looked with the Wizards being more, more or less of a threat.
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But, well, the Raptors burn center an interesting situation because it there, it actually doesn't kind of really matter to keep the two seed.
00:16:06
Because you'd much rather play out of the Nets of the Magic than you would the six years of the Pacers, right? So I think for them, it actually is interesting.
00:16:14
I guess the West is different because I'm not sure there's a fundamental difference at this point between the Rockets and Mavericks.
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Let's say, for the Clippers, and that was all those put so tightly packed that I'm saying is I don't think I don't think that a lot of thought is gonna go into the into the gamesmanship around winning or losing some games to reconfigure your seeding.
00:16:32
Just because most of these teams are, it's kind of neither here nor there.
00:16:36
I will say MBA Advance really should probably prepare themselves for eight game, eight regular season quotes, regular season games that a lot of these superstars are just not simply not gonna play it all.
00:16:46
Um, they're not.
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They want to expand the roster sizes already, which makes sense because they need to have some be way.
00:16:52
If the player test positive that I would say there's almost massively there's a massive uptick in injury risk here with the amount of time that they've had off to the training to the new environment.
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Everything really.
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I would say there has to be real concerned about injury risk here because this is so abnormal.
00:17:11
You gotta remember MBA players and all these guys are on regimented set set in stone schedules.
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Most of right.
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This is like this is a job and they take their job or serious that anyone listening here doesn't almost I don't wanna be.
00:17:27
It would be very fair about this, like the to get players out of the rhythms like this and out of whatever training they had been set to do whatever timelines that they've been on for their whole lives.
00:17:37
LeBron James, who's done probably the same regiment around the same timing for a decade and 1/2 now, or whatever.
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It's been more 25th 18 years wherever he came in.
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Um, you gotta remember this is just not normals I do think I I think there is real concern about some injuries that I you should Everyone should prepare that like Ron and 80 might play half of these eight games or something like that.
00:18:01
I think that I think that's a read.
00:18:02
That to me is it is almost as much of the story is anything else.
00:18:06
Well, it will be interesting, too, because again, like you say, the one seed in each conference, I don't think that, you know, the Bucks aren't gonna be worried if it's the magic or it's the Nets, or even if it's the witness they can afford to say, Honest.
00:18:17
You can play two of these 1st 8 games and your warm.
00:18:19
It will be the first round of the playoffs as opposed to the guys in the middle of the pack.
00:18:23
Or I feel like especially out West, right? Like, why these matchup? Shake out.
00:18:27
Once you get into it, you want to be fully so it'll be interesting to see based on seeding, who decides to do what before you get to Europe? The TLC comments be not deal.
00:18:37
We'll see that column came out.
00:18:39
It was just like you know knocking, knocking this structure again about the idea of Maybe you end up giving possession to what would have been the home court team.
00:18:46
They get possession to start every quarter.
00:18:48
And that effectively is the home court advantage that they be lacking ifit's normal times.
00:18:53
Or possibly 1/7 foul for a particular designated player on team as revenge.
00:18:58
Now it feels a little fig easy.
00:19:00
But just the fact that again, a team that's out of the playoffs and then he even throughout, you know, he had said, based on strength of schedule, we would have been at at 500 over the remainder of the year.
00:19:10
It was such as weird.
00:19:12
Is that a weird thought? When you see a team that is 29 37 they're like, I don't know this really legit.
00:19:18
I know we played 80% of the season.
00:19:20
We prove that we're some 500 team, but if we're not going to get a fair shake, you know, what are we talking about here like I don't know.
00:19:26
Is there anything? Did you give me what first do Terrible that that McCollum's complaining.
00:19:30
I actually think it's I think, actually, just an organizational talking point.
00:19:33
They were the only team that voted.
00:19:34
Now there was with the vote was one and the Blazers with one that voted no because they thought there was better.
00:19:40
The quote was something like, We thought there were better options out there.
00:19:44
I I think it's weird.
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I think, like I think that this from when you consider the 19 then I see can play its way in in in a short Siri's That probably helps the Blazers right.
00:20:00
So like I think that there's, I think, just because they can less games and they just have toe win a few more than they would have had to before.
00:20:07
So I think that I don't think they're mathematical odds.
00:20:10
Change all that much will be interesting to see if they start complaining about what teams They had the play that I would say, though the heavy favorite, to complain about whatever schedule they get based on the other stuff.
00:20:21
I was a I would put a, you know, a decent sized bet that there the 1st 1 to complain that say, Oh, we play the Lakers and the Clippers and in the box in our cell or something like that.
00:20:30
I'm like, who are these guys have to play? I would merely get guarantee that happens.
00:20:35
Other than that, I just think I think they just got together.
00:20:37
His organization either got into a yes circle with each other, or they just said, This is gonna be where we all stand together or what it is because between game and C J And then and then, like I said, the organization voting No, I must just be some kind of internal dialogue where they all just kind of got mad about it.
00:20:53
And then they just all voice their opinion I don't care about it.
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Just seems like a weird tone with no one else will get the care, by the way.
00:21:00
Like the pelicans could easily be.
00:21:02
The tender goes.
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We just Kansai on back.
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We had the easiest strength of schedule remaining games.
00:21:07
We easily could have done this thing, and it seems like that then, like everything was like cool playing basketball against week.
00:21:13
Great.
00:21:14
And that's what we're leaving and and by the way, and the other teams were like, we don't have to get back and we still kind of get paid, and everyone's gonna do the heavy lifting from now on.
00:21:20
There, everyone, I know what all those teams were happy to vote Yes to they all.
00:21:25
They all voted all the bad teams through happily through their yes, vote into the hat and kind of walked away.
00:21:30
So I don't know.
00:21:31
It's like when you see a rotten Tomatoes score is 99% and over 300 reviews.
00:21:36
And you think maybe like you shouldn't just be a reviewer anymore, right? You with one person, 333 people at a 300 that thought the movie with that thought toy Story was bad or something like that.
00:21:46
So maybe it's just like maybe you could just leave.
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You don't like it, you know, I'm sure that what I'm looking for, the Bulls wouldn't mind just coming back to my microphones right now.
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The the host.
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I'm sure the Bulls wouldn't mind coming back and playing.
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They can take your record, right? They get the ball.
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The Bulls will be 29 30 and thinking no between 97 they'll play in the less.
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I don't think he cares just kind of be quiet about that.
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But it's only when its universe it's only one, is universally just accepted.
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And then it just one outlier that's usually write an essay.
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Ah, you know, like I think we can just ignore you because everyone helped James.
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Fine.
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I was beta test.
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I'm running a new app and we're beta testing it and all the reviews were really good.
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And one person came and said I didn't like it.
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And then they said, You want to talk about I said, No, CEO, I don't believe that.
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I don't think anyone that sits on the mat about so I don't really need your opinion anymore because because, you know, the other 100 people said it was totally fine and good.
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So that's kind of where I look at these comments.
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Yeah, and it worked out well for Steve Kerr and the Golden State Warriors, who has had a long time ago there, like we're done.
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Thanks a lot.
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Big, great year.
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And they're like we vote yet.
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Check that box. I know we could have claimed step back.
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We're not worried about it, by the way, what? You would have swapped out Hey, if you're gonna go.
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State Warriors will think that swap.
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We get playback.
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We have stepped back.
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You don't want to play.
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Portland will go ahead and have an opportunity off of our 15 1 season to play our way into a possible playoff situation and really terrified the heck out of the West.
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Probably would have been funny.
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Actually, it would be funny, actually, if there was, like, some internal vote among the own, how that it wouldn't be able to do it.
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The league could have said some mandate whether they didn't know.
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And they said, Oh, you voted No.
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We actually had this stipulation that said, if you voted no and you were one of the teams that was in it, you're gone.
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So you think that you don't like it? Would you throw something else? Which is which is the next the next best team that said yes.
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Which is the Charlotte Hornets.
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We chose them on. Now they're in.
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So see you later and then and then believes that won't congratulate you.
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Better not.
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It was just like I would really appreciate it.
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But I love that I want to be there.
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What were Ah, what will we would see Elsie was he, uh, he was taking care of Katie.
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You said I was gonna read the pull this from Alex Alex, term, who wrote, um, from TD basketball.
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But he was actually transcribing a French podcast for first team. I think.
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So, uh, we're gonna get into that.
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But I decided a couple lands down here.
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But TLC says that quote Durant has been quote healthy for five months, Participates fully in practice, goes hard, and it's Ah, sorry.
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Sub quote pain in the butt to play against.
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But he also says he doesn't does not think Durant will play, but that he wants to.
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So that I was I found that to be pretty interesting.
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I know, you know that you did a little with for the little whisper math.
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That's a long time.
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Well, remember, I think you supposed to playing USA basketball this for right around this point.
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So this isn't crazy that this is his time lines that come back The goal had been his like many like sort of mini camp was gonna be playing USA basketball.
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I think it's a za warm up to sort of get back into rial time it's corrected.
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I'm wrong here, but I'm almost positive that was the case.
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And so this is the longest timeline.
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We've seen plenty of videos in him working out.
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You'll wonder if they think that this is if they just think this is like, what kind of what I said before that the risk of injury around this weird nest is it's just too much of one of these.
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It's too much of a question mark to know.
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I don't know when they need to finalize their rosters.
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Like if they could put him on the active roster and say, You know, essentially, they expand the rosters and said Maybe, just maybe, we see that this is a pretty good environment or something like that I don't know.
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I be interesting to see if they put him on the the actual active roster, but also said he's on it, but it's really not something we're gonna dio It was Gary's.
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I was curious to think about That idea may be hard to with the layoff, but saying like I'm not surprised, but if the NBS said listen like this is gonna be based on where your roster stood at the time of the shutdown.
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It's not based on the fact that a lot of guys were injured and could have played, but we wouldn't normally be playing.
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So if this was, you know, if you weren't gonna be able to be available on the court for the conclusion of the season and your injury timelines, we're going to exclude you from competing.
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That hasn't been brought up it all.
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And I'm sure again, teams that wouldn't complain would be like the Bucks, who would say, Well, kiddies getting back on the court. Come on, knock it off.
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The other thing that I'd be curious about is, do you think that one behind closed doors where the next? Maybe one of the teams that that would have said if asked.
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Honestly? Either way, we don't We don't need to play in this postseason to avoid the conversation on candy.
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And then, secondarily, do you think maybe if the Nets are it leaves valuing the idea of going back to the playoffs again? Because that's a feather in the franchises tapping the rebuild.
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Would they may be utilized kg just for the eight games toe.
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Let him have some level of competition and say that was it.
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We just want to make sure we secured our spot.
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You got to flex your, you know, athletic muscles, your MBA muscles.
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Again.
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We're not going to risk you for this long term postseason run.
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I think that I think just being able to see what they have in the jar here and continually to see, you know what, players can kind of step up.
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We already saw rotational changes near the end of the season.
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Shot phone was already playing things differently.
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There was just different rotations going on as it was.
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I think that that is for their purpose is not bad.
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I think those teams were probably caught in this in between, which is to say, gun to their head.
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They probably rather just have the summer and come back next year.
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If you got him into a room and just gave him truth serum, I think most would say, Obviously, at this point, the better thing would just be the call.
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This this is too weird, too much.
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It's two different, but at the same time they understand the optics around it and the money, peace and all this other stuff is has a certain value as well.
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And so you have probably the Nets and say, What does this really mean for us? It's at most probably 12 games, right? Like, even figure they just get swept out of the first round.
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And so I just But I think most teams will probably say that, but maybe something I mean, outside of like, you know, the battle team said it.
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So the way we know all the bad teams that aren't in it already said it.
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So that was that.
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Made that one easy to try to figure out if they voted. Yes.
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Um, now, I don't know if the pressure was on from the board of Governors to say, Hey, we finally found the landed on something.
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Not everyone's gonna be happy with that.
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Everyone just get out boarded.
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Vote yes.
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And we can just kind of move on.
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The fans want the games to come back.
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We kind of need the games to come back.
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We look good.
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Look how bad baseball looks right now, right? Frightened foal looks.
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They're not baseball, soccer, plucking that baseball like they're just not going.
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So they're not gonna figure it out these guys can't figure it out there.
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Just that season, I would almost guarantee, is awash.
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Um, whether baseball is able to come back with the bad ill will that they're going to probably get by having this, Who knows? I think the MBA was happy to, from a logistical standpoint, to say, We don't want to be baseball, right? Right way.
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We need not to.
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This I think everyone's kind of this happened, is happy to get on board.
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And But I think I'm just a surgically playing the games point of view.
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I think most teams would have happily impacted in my now right.
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We'll get out on this from a next perspective that they're coming back to play.
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Ah, risk reward of injury.
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But when you think about the roster and maybe even a guys like Jared Allen, you saw that DeAndre Jordan was.
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It was getting more and more playing time there.
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Do you think that you'll see maybe more Jared Allen? For the sake of Hey, this is the chance to get an actress getting more looking.
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Jared Allen will give him as much of a runner's.
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We came here and try to focus on him and maybe save the body of a DeAndre Jordan older veteran player.
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That might be one of those guys. It says.
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I don't really need to come back and do this.
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And then, maybe even secondarily, is this House money where the Nets take a look at Nick Claxton? Unlike they never would have done this during the regular season or a traditional season.
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But because you're in this mode, do they take a look at a guy like that or Moussa? Any of these places that had swept in the first round of playoffs might as well see what did Claxton or some of these guys look like against the highest level, even a even if she owes it now, I think at this point it's your best bet for the Nets.
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Is that throw your very best product out there? I don't think this should be your training ground.
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I think you're kind of I hate to see that we're lucky because they're not lucky.
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But they're lucky to be part of this group, and I think, and they probably know that they have a limited window.
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Like I said, 12 to 13 games is probably the Max.
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I think I could see them playing.
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Um And so at that point, I think that I think what you see from them is best foot forward.
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I don't think they're going to use this as let's see what we have in boost like, I don't think we're gonna I really don't think they should either.
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I think that the edict is gonna be This is end the season sort of playoff basketball.
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And this is outside of your arrest in LeBron because you want to try to look win a championship or something like that and it's very obvious why you're doing it outside of that.
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I think that it really it really be a bad look.
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If a team, if they just said, Hey, let's see what we have in younger like they weren't really doing that at the end of the season anyway, So I don't know why they didn't want doing that.
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What we saw from job fallen to begin with, right? They were they were literally locked into making the plant so they could actually attack.
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That's why that I don't know why at this point, the attitude would shift, and especially if anything, goes back the other way.
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We see major minutes from some of these guys.
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Is this sort of work their way in? I will be interesting at around a minute.
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They probably actually can't probably nobody's meal push the minutes to to have a year to start.
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But now I think it's best foot forward for them as we Obviously, as we get closer and closer now, we'll have even more things to really be talking about as teams prepare for this.
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Do you feel all things considered? Do you feel like I know you've said it ass trick on the championship here? Is this about as legitimate as you could make it? Though it seems like all the primarily all the teams are gonna be there that you thought would have been there for season.
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It finished? Yeah, I think so.
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I think we'll see that.
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I think we're gonna see most of the teams that deserved to be in the playoffs.
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Most of the team's best foot forward.
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I don't think I'm gonna walk back my ass trick.
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I never really meant that I would give it an ass trick.
00:31:29
I thought that the collective that that you thought the Portland Trailblazers Look, those crowned themselves champion.
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Because if we have to play the whole season, you don't even know what they had in store.
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By the way, they're really health.
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Exactly.
00:31:43
Wonder Market is gonna play.
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We can talk about that later.
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I think it was I thought, you know, you may have benefited as well if markets was able to play in this.
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And that is about to come back.
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He was I'm pretty sure I should I should just look this up.
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He was about to come back and a limited form, their second best player.
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So I'll report work, you know? Look, they they have such a good chance to just be a vastly better team that they especially they think they can play him well, in the shooting public.
00:32:05
Um, yeah, I think overall, I'm just pumped ID that we have a date on the calendar and basketball is going to come back, and it's gonna look cool and different.
00:32:12
Maybe cool.
00:32:13
I think about trying to make it pretty cool.
00:32:14
And B, it's pretty good about stuff like this.
00:32:16
So I'm just excited that we haven't beat now.
00:32:18
Yeah, that's all.
00:32:19
I can wait for so obviously a lot more things and what were interesting developmental content that will be able to talk about unlike what has been a very difficult stretch where nothing has been happening.
00:32:28
And once the last dance went off the air, I really just starting to a bit of a depression.
00:32:31
So quick shoutouts to you.
00:32:33
Ah, Paddy Whack and Cup King.
00:32:34
Thanks for checking in on the broadcast with us, along with everybody else that joined in here.
00:32:38
As always, you can follow us on social media at We got Nets head over to iTunes or wherever you get your podcast, download rate review and subscribe.
00:32:46
Doug and I'll be back in on Tuesday of next week, as we typically do during this covert isolation era.
00:32:53
Talking all things next, basketball.
00:32:55
Thank you to Doug Stir.
00:32:56
We will contact with you soon.

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But that and obviously, just what some of these big dates are going to be.
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Four for the Brooklyn Nets and the NBA overall.
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So we'll be seeing him in just a second here and at three.
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Assumed before Doug joint in the day thinks that we're kind of on the table or something.
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Structures that we knew as ignoring officially does join in.
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How are you? I'm good, all right, Great.
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Was just letting everybody know that it's official.
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So the season is coming back.
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We we knew this.
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When I talked about on the podcast.
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We assumed it was gonna be this 22 team format, which is, and then all the key dates have come out as well.
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The 31st was the was kind of the assumed.
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So now all the official wants says, though June 30th will be the official training camp.
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July 7th, they'll travel to Orlando the 31st of July.
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I'll be a part of the season, and then just some of the other dates that they also put out there were artillery Teams will be the free agency period on.
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And then the 2020 21 target is November 10th for training camp.
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December 1st for opening night, which can flex depending on how the playoffs go.
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Yeah, um, it z kind of what we thought it was gonna be, And it's really not surprising.
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There's a couple Nets related things I think that are important that are a little different than I think.
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The original proposal, Um, if I'm reading it correctly but because I think under the original proposal it was like the Nets, that last win against the Lakers was going to sort of ensure them to be in the playoffs because they had one less loss because they were the 70.
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But that's not really gonna be the case.
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Yeah, now it's Samantha.
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Structure looks as we talked about the add those extra six teams.
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It's the five from the West with one from the East, just the Washington Wizards.
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And then there's going to be an eight game season.
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Essentially, that's that's the last that they're going to give you eight games to kind of conclude this season.
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Confirm all of the seeding and the requirements going to be that the ninth seed needs to be within 3.
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5 games off the eighth seed in order to then get a play in game scenario to an act.
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So the Nets right now are in the seven seed, but doesn't mean that over these eight games they can't find themselves falling back into the A C or the nine seed.
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So theoretically, over eight games, they could fall all the way behind the Washington wizard.
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I guess you would say you'd like to think that won't be the case.
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And you also don't know since its 22 teams you don't know what the schedules are gonna look like because now it's gonna be completely different.
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Much is picking up whatever eight games you had on the schedule because they're missing eight teams from leagues as well.
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Well, so and it's interesting, too, because so, uh, from scheduling standpoint one, the Nets are gonna be underdogs in almost every game.
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They play here outside the Magic and the Wizards, and they wouldn't be favored.
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I mean, this is assuming Kevin Durant doesn't come back.
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TOC came out and said something interesting today Journal, if you want to know about that, but um, the, uh You have to figure they're going to underdogs in just about every game now the the level of which they're underdogs or the amount of which there are.
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No, it will probably vary a little bit, but they're one of the I mean, there's no doubt about their one of the worst teams in this group.
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There's really that's that's not a hot take or anything like that.
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So, But again, Washington is is the worst team, Um, all of these teams.
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So it's it.
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Yeah, we could see we could see each team go on eight Now will be interesting. Teoh.
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Interesting.
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Also, to see if any of them on the schedule and they have been play each other.
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Odds would say they probably would.
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Those would be massive leverage games if they were to play what Orlando and or Washington each once those would be essentially the most important games they could play.
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I honestly, they brought the rest outside of those two games.
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I'm actually wondering if any of the games for them it would even matter if those two are on the schedule.
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Mathematically, mathematically, basically, a wind over Washington would essentially ensure that Washington could not make up that four game gap.
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Right? So, like that, let there be depending on.
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I don't think Mass perfect on that, but it's really close.
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And so it'll be interesting to be really interesting.
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See where these schedules lands, because, really, this could just be the tale of one or two games for the Nets.
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Now they're gonna play all eat.
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But it could be the only to one or two actually really matter when it all comes down to it, which is weird.
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But that's just kind of the way the well, that's where we are here.
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Well, it's interesting because then, even if say, they were to take on the Wizards in the Orlando Magic in the schedule and lose these Games like they could easily find themselves than flipped into the ninth position and needing to play their way in.
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So going from what felt like, as we have talked about on the podcast, a relative relative position of strength in terms of like to be almost impossible for the Nets not to make the playoffs now, this is that he came many season conclusion could be the most difficult task for them to make sure they solidify it.
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Do they talked about out west to that? This idea of one the of the pelicans involved there? I looked at that over on.
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Ah, take mobile in the article around the pelicans and saying, Well, you look at those trying to schedule and it's something that I think C.
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J.
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McCollum came out.
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And the trouble is, they cannot seem to get out of their own way when it comes to their commentary around how this goes back.
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But for the pelicans, they had a really favorable schedule remaining easiest easiest in the N B A among playoff contenders.
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And now they're gonna now they're gonna be in a position off.
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Well, the teams are gonna play, no matter how it shakes out.
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It's gonna be a lot more difficult for them to accomplish this goal, too.
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So it feels like there's some sense of they want to be fair to the teams that are close enough, quote unquote.
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And also it's going to be difficult for any of them to really move the needle on this off the But the difference is that playing game right, that playing games is a needle mover or the play on the plan.
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Best of It's a weird structure and I don't think that Sorry if you said that I was reading something real quick when you when you opened up the, um The playing game was the top of the eighth seeds used to just win one game, and the 90 reptile went to straight Tito.
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Yes, you overtake the eighth seed.
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So that actually does that.
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That's one of the thing.
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Besides all this, that nontraditional that is another very nontraditional factor toe look into is that you kind of just want toe.
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I mean, it would be great to get the A C only have to win the one game, but in the past, that 90 didn't really have a chance like that.
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Now, if you can think you can take two games and you can kind of these teams were pretty equal rights, not it's not outside of anywhere.
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Any one of these teams, Not not the Nets and the Magic and teams like this.
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I don't think they be a favorite to win two straight against any team here but the, um, but a team like the pelicans could so It's like you know they could.
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Simply playing for the ninth seed is good enough that they're all kind of locked up into the same position here.
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But the structure does kind of.
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I know there are behind in the busy schedule, but this structure still allows a decent chance for them to get in the playoffs.
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When you look at, I guess his briefly look out West land carousel with Teal C said.
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But when you look out West, is there a team out of that out of that group that they have now opened it up to with the Blazers, the Pelicans, the Kings, the Spurs, the sons do any of those do you think can a legitimate they could make some noise through? This is really a big needle mover in terms of ultimately, what the playoffs are gonna look like.
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Do you think that our team's gonna fall out? Or a couple of these teams that magic, the Nets, the Grizzlies and the seven seed out there out west? Being the Mavericks, no one's own that matters.
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Take it knocked out whether they have a nice, healthy lead.
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So during those three teams, or any of those three teams knocking it either When it shakes out, do you think which one love of its Well, they're still That's in. Sorry.
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We're kind of playing catch up on this because this just got finalized within the last couple hours to get some of these things.
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I don't even think, you know, we don't even know the schedule right now, but I'm pretty sure one they're keeping it to conferences.
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So it's not there, not there.
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Not receiving after the conference, are they or are they? No.
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No, it's fairly.
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No, they're not.
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I mean, respectively, in the west and that.
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Well, well, actually, I dig honest with you.
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We're doing real time catch up here? No, because they're doing the 88 games that will involve everybody, and then it'll still separate out.
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But so the Grizzlies are the only team out west that could theoretically be in a position to full out of the A.
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The Mavericks 27 are not going to have any issues there.
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Yeah, so I think like, I don't think No.
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So what I think's gonna end up happening is that almost for sure, the they will still be the seventh and eighth seed in the East.
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Is the Nets in the Magic, right? And and they just have to wait.
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One of those two teams will just have to win one game against the Wizards if they're able to close the gap with their kind of still a dog to do, I would say right, because they're 5.
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5 out now.
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They have to make such a They really have to make such a run.
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I just don't see it happen.
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I actually don't think that we're gonna be.
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I think the East is basically from a mathematical perspective, kind of locked up here.
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I don't think I'm going to do that.
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Would be a risk for the MBA is like schedule the Wizards against the Magic first, that you only be like, immediately start that game.
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If it was his win it, they told us something.
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It's very exciting.
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If they lose, it releases All set.
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You're gonna be training.
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They're gonna be training material for all the rest of these teams anyway.
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So if they're kind of just in there to round things out now, the West is interesting, right? Like 3.
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5 games over a taking over eight games is which is what the difference is now is a lot to make up, right? Okay, so it's like, I just want to be very clear about two things tonight.
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People think like 3.
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5 games, and that's not a lot means that happen for the Grizzlies to maintain the eighth seed.
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So I think that ever actually, probably statistically heavy favorites to continue that eight seed Been that that that 3.
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5 gap, though, that gets the plane that gets the plane scenario that what was that was my next thing.
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My next thing is that they then what may be against some of these teams just be considered underdogs, like even in a two game series with the Pelicans, It's still, it's Look, it's way easier to just win one game than this twin, too.
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So I haven't run all the math on this right now, but I would not.
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The Pelicans would be very interesting.
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I even the Blazers, right? I wouldn't be so worried about the King's whether they were kind of starting to look a little bit better.
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Lead season Spurs.
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I wouldn't be worried about all.
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I don't think that probably end up closing the gap anyway, because they're one of the worst teams here.
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Their favorite will lose a lot of these Games sons to.
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So the there is a definite scenario where the Grizzlies would not would be wanted to stare down, even like a single a double elimination game against the Pelicans.
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I think that would.
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I think, that that 89 almost definitely one of those teams will finish within four games of them.
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And they'll the Grizzlies are, even if they are a heavy favorite to be at least playing that plane.
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I have another call right now.
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It's like when it was one team has to win two and others when one.
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But I'll just call the secrets that play in Siris.
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The Grizzlies are.
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I was almost definitely gonna be playing attacking so that I find to be really interesting.
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And I think for the rest of these teams, just it's just warm ups, right? Just getting their sea legs back under them.
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But they've made they've given enough drama.
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I don't I gotta be honest.
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Yeah, I don't even think they need the drama.
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I don't think these eight games really matter from a drama standpoint.
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I think they're gonna have so much buying just in the fact that they're coming back.
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Everyone's gonna want to see the new style players.
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But without fans, how they're gonna do the audio, how they're going to announce the games.
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You know what's gonna be like on the sidelines.
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I think that is probably enough to sustain whatever this.
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Well, it's eight games each.
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So whatever that no, whatever the number comes to beat the total Games is that, um, I think there's, I think, you know, just about like enough about leaving all this this new, this new environment, a lot stuff. Lead season.
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MBA is usually the dregs anyway, so it's like there's almost no scenario every year where there's very meaningful games.
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In fact, it's the opposite.
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The end of in the NBA seasons can sometimes be.
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I think I said this on a podcast or stream. That's right.
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It's almost like a crime.
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What they do at the end of the season with some of these, it's absolutely just hang time.
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Players play no minutes.
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Superstar, sit out.
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Playoff teams, rest guys, it's really It's a bad product like it's it's really it's really a shame what they do with the end of season.
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So it's not even like you can claim.
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Oh, you're getting a worse end of the season product here and here, and the regular season outside of a few games is awful. It's all right.
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And so it's It's so bad.
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It's the worst of any sport when it comes to this.
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Now they ramp up with this thing.
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Also, when it comes to the playoffs, I get that.
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But I you'll never hear me complaining.
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Oh, some of these games remaining listed most these games, So that's just that's just kind of how it is. Anyway.
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Do you think that you think that this from a schedule standpoint, how they structure it? Do you think that these higher seeded teams for the will they try to have the top six seeds primarily play each other and then try to? If you feel you want to be, if you're going this route than you, I don't know.
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How do you How do you have to go the route of getting competitive balance of the games so that if the team is probably the West can close that gap or maintain that closest, then play against the Grizzlies in that play in Siris.
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But do you want to explain against each other? Do you want to have to play the Lakers? Do the Lakers almost maybe want to get a look at the at the Pelicans and maybe give them an extra loss to avoid them possibly getting into the playoff picture? And the third thing is here is to remember, Is that the pelicans, the Bucks, the Lakers had essentially locked up the one seeds.
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If they play at the full season, right, so, like this was, these teams were going to be the number one seeds.
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Now there's very little after that.
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I'll say this very little advantage to any of these seedings because for the most part, seedings were really important around home court advantage, which no longer exists.
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And so after that, because everything is played in a neutral site now, a huge part.
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Why you wanna have these, why you want to be seated? So I won.
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Of course, you play the worst team in the division and I will say there is massive drop off from the seven seed and in the East from the seventh and eighth seeded.
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There's a nice drop off there, and in the West there's a clear it's clear drop off.
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But for the most part after that, I'm not even sure that of these teams care about seating anymore because of the home, because all they would, I think what I cared about was getting that extra one home game, which isn't even there anymore.
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And at that point, are you really working for the Raptors? That's a bad example.
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If you're the Celtics, are you really working hard to make sure you can play the Pacers instead of the six years that it just doesn't really matter that much anymore? So I don't think it was with the home court advantage.
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I'm not sure it's done, so I think a lot of these games, I think the Lakers and Bucks games are pretty mean, that meaningless.
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They they I don't even see really much in the way of how they could even lose the one seeds at this point.
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The box are basically locked the book so like a 11 game in there that they win one game, another off the one seed.
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So maybe it's the idea, though not about locking the one seed, but just you can beat the pelicans to make sure you look they don't get the A C.
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You can lose to the Grizzlies to maintain that matchup device.
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That's the kind of and I guess you're like this is all warm up for those seeds.
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But maybe look at and say, All right, LeBron, you don't need to play all eight games and, you know, in our warm up.
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But we'll make sure you play a couple of these ones that you say you're ready to go and make sure that we avoid.
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Maybe they like the Trailblazers as potentially.
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It's a little bit more of an annoyance.
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And the Grizzlies, however they think about it and just making sure that you avoid those teams getting And likewise.
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Like you said, if it's confirmed that Durant's not gonna play for the Nets when this returns, then you're just saying like all right, maybe I want Maybe I'll I'm not worried about beating the next if we can't see the long off on the schedule because they can sit around that 73 seed, and I'll be happy to see them as opposed to.
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I looked with the Wizards being more, more or less of a threat.
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But, well, the Raptors burn center an interesting situation because it there, it actually doesn't kind of really matter to keep the two seed.
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Because you'd much rather play out of the Nets of the Magic than you would the six years of the Pacers, right? So I think for them, it actually is interesting.
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I guess the West is different because I'm not sure there's a fundamental difference at this point between the Rockets and Mavericks.
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Let's say, for the Clippers, and that was all those put so tightly packed that I'm saying is I don't think I don't think that a lot of thought is gonna go into the into the gamesmanship around winning or losing some games to reconfigure your seeding.
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Just because most of these teams are, it's kind of neither here nor there.
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I will say MBA Advance really should probably prepare themselves for eight game, eight regular season quotes, regular season games that a lot of these superstars are just not simply not gonna play it all.
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Um, they're not.
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They want to expand the roster sizes already, which makes sense because they need to have some be way.
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If the player test positive that I would say there's almost massively there's a massive uptick in injury risk here with the amount of time that they've had off to the training to the new environment.
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Everything really.
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I would say there has to be real concerned about injury risk here because this is so abnormal.
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You gotta remember MBA players and all these guys are on regimented set set in stone schedules.
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Most of right.
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This is like this is a job and they take their job or serious that anyone listening here doesn't almost I don't wanna be.
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It would be very fair about this, like the to get players out of the rhythms like this and out of whatever training they had been set to do whatever timelines that they've been on for their whole lives.
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LeBron James, who's done probably the same regiment around the same timing for a decade and 1/2 now, or whatever.
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It's been more 25th 18 years wherever he came in.
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Um, you gotta remember this is just not normals I do think I I think there is real concern about some injuries that I you should Everyone should prepare that like Ron and 80 might play half of these eight games or something like that.
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I think that I think that's a read.
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That to me is it is almost as much of the story is anything else.
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Well, it will be interesting, too, because again, like you say, the one seed in each conference, I don't think that, you know, the Bucks aren't gonna be worried if it's the magic or it's the Nets, or even if it's the witness they can afford to say, Honest.
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You can play two of these 1st 8 games and your warm.
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It will be the first round of the playoffs as opposed to the guys in the middle of the pack.
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Or I feel like especially out West, right? Like, why these matchup? Shake out.
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Once you get into it, you want to be fully so it'll be interesting to see based on seeding, who decides to do what before you get to Europe? The TLC comments be not deal.
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We'll see that column came out.
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It was just like you know knocking, knocking this structure again about the idea of Maybe you end up giving possession to what would have been the home court team.
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They get possession to start every quarter.
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And that effectively is the home court advantage that they be lacking ifit's normal times.
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Or possibly 1/7 foul for a particular designated player on team as revenge.
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Now it feels a little fig easy.
00:19:00
But just the fact that again, a team that's out of the playoffs and then he even throughout, you know, he had said, based on strength of schedule, we would have been at at 500 over the remainder of the year.
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It was such as weird.
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Is that a weird thought? When you see a team that is 29 37 they're like, I don't know this really legit.
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I know we played 80% of the season.
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We prove that we're some 500 team, but if we're not going to get a fair shake, you know, what are we talking about here like I don't know.
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Is there anything? Did you give me what first do Terrible that that McCollum's complaining.
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I actually think it's I think, actually, just an organizational talking point.
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They were the only team that voted.
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Now there was with the vote was one and the Blazers with one that voted no because they thought there was better.
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The quote was something like, We thought there were better options out there.
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I I think it's weird.
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I think, like I think that this from when you consider the 19 then I see can play its way in in in a short Siri's That probably helps the Blazers right.
00:20:00
So like I think that there's, I think, just because they can less games and they just have toe win a few more than they would have had to before.
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So I think that I don't think they're mathematical odds.
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Change all that much will be interesting to see if they start complaining about what teams They had the play that I would say, though the heavy favorite, to complain about whatever schedule they get based on the other stuff.
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I was a I would put a, you know, a decent sized bet that there the 1st 1 to complain that say, Oh, we play the Lakers and the Clippers and in the box in our cell or something like that.
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I'm like, who are these guys have to play? I would merely get guarantee that happens.
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Other than that, I just think I think they just got together.
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His organization either got into a yes circle with each other, or they just said, This is gonna be where we all stand together or what it is because between game and C J And then and then, like I said, the organization voting No, I must just be some kind of internal dialogue where they all just kind of got mad about it.
00:20:53
And then they just all voice their opinion I don't care about it.
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Just seems like a weird tone with no one else will get the care, by the way.
00:21:00
Like the pelicans could easily be.
00:21:02
The tender goes.
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We just Kansai on back.
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We had the easiest strength of schedule remaining games.
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We easily could have done this thing, and it seems like that then, like everything was like cool playing basketball against week.
00:21:13
Great.
00:21:14
And that's what we're leaving and and by the way, and the other teams were like, we don't have to get back and we still kind of get paid, and everyone's gonna do the heavy lifting from now on.
00:21:20
There, everyone, I know what all those teams were happy to vote Yes to they all.
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They all voted all the bad teams through happily through their yes, vote into the hat and kind of walked away.
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So I don't know.
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It's like when you see a rotten Tomatoes score is 99% and over 300 reviews.
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And you think maybe like you shouldn't just be a reviewer anymore, right? You with one person, 333 people at a 300 that thought the movie with that thought toy Story was bad or something like that.
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So maybe it's just like maybe you could just leave.
00:21:50
You don't like it, you know, I'm sure that what I'm looking for, the Bulls wouldn't mind just coming back to my microphones right now.
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The the host.
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I'm sure the Bulls wouldn't mind coming back and playing.
00:22:00
They can take your record, right? They get the ball.
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The Bulls will be 29 30 and thinking no between 97 they'll play in the less.
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I don't think he cares just kind of be quiet about that.
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But it's only when its universe it's only one, is universally just accepted.
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And then it just one outlier that's usually write an essay.
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Ah, you know, like I think we can just ignore you because everyone helped James.
00:22:22
Fine.
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I was beta test.
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I'm running a new app and we're beta testing it and all the reviews were really good.
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And one person came and said I didn't like it.
00:22:30
And then they said, You want to talk about I said, No, CEO, I don't believe that.
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I don't think anyone that sits on the mat about so I don't really need your opinion anymore because because, you know, the other 100 people said it was totally fine and good.
00:22:43
So that's kind of where I look at these comments.
00:22:46
Yeah, and it worked out well for Steve Kerr and the Golden State Warriors, who has had a long time ago there, like we're done.
00:22:51
Thanks a lot.
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Big, great year.
00:22:53
And they're like we vote yet.
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Check that box. I know we could have claimed step back.
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We're not worried about it, by the way, what? You would have swapped out Hey, if you're gonna go.
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State Warriors will think that swap.
00:23:01
We get playback.
00:23:02
We have stepped back.
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You don't want to play.
00:23:04
Portland will go ahead and have an opportunity off of our 15 1 season to play our way into a possible playoff situation and really terrified the heck out of the West.
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Probably would have been funny.
00:23:12
Actually, it would be funny, actually, if there was, like, some internal vote among the own, how that it wouldn't be able to do it.
00:23:17
The league could have said some mandate whether they didn't know.
00:23:19
And they said, Oh, you voted No.
00:23:20
We actually had this stipulation that said, if you voted no and you were one of the teams that was in it, you're gone.
00:23:24
So you think that you don't like it? Would you throw something else? Which is which is the next the next best team that said yes.
00:23:30
Which is the Charlotte Hornets.
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We chose them on. Now they're in.
00:23:34
So see you later and then and then believes that won't congratulate you.
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Better not.
00:23:38
It was just like I would really appreciate it.
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But I love that I want to be there.
00:23:42
What were Ah, what will we would see Elsie was he, uh, he was taking care of Katie.
00:23:48
You said I was gonna read the pull this from Alex Alex, term, who wrote, um, from TD basketball.
00:23:54
But he was actually transcribing a French podcast for first team. I think.
00:23:59
So, uh, we're gonna get into that.
00:24:01
But I decided a couple lands down here.
00:24:03
But TLC says that quote Durant has been quote healthy for five months, Participates fully in practice, goes hard, and it's Ah, sorry.
00:24:10
Sub quote pain in the butt to play against.
00:24:12
But he also says he doesn't does not think Durant will play, but that he wants to.
00:24:16
So that I was I found that to be pretty interesting.
00:24:20
I know, you know that you did a little with for the little whisper math.
00:24:23
That's a long time.
00:24:24
Well, remember, I think you supposed to playing USA basketball this for right around this point.
00:24:29
So this isn't crazy that this is his time lines that come back The goal had been his like many like sort of mini camp was gonna be playing USA basketball.
00:24:38
I think it's a za warm up to sort of get back into rial time it's corrected.
00:24:44
I'm wrong here, but I'm almost positive that was the case.
00:24:46
And so this is the longest timeline.
00:24:49
We've seen plenty of videos in him working out.
00:24:51
You'll wonder if they think that this is if they just think this is like, what kind of what I said before that the risk of injury around this weird nest is it's just too much of one of these.
00:25:04
It's too much of a question mark to know.
00:25:06
I don't know when they need to finalize their rosters.
00:25:09
Like if they could put him on the active roster and say, You know, essentially, they expand the rosters and said Maybe, just maybe, we see that this is a pretty good environment or something like that I don't know.
00:25:20
I be interesting to see if they put him on the the actual active roster, but also said he's on it, but it's really not something we're gonna dio It was Gary's.
00:25:28
I was curious to think about That idea may be hard to with the layoff, but saying like I'm not surprised, but if the NBS said listen like this is gonna be based on where your roster stood at the time of the shutdown.
00:25:39
It's not based on the fact that a lot of guys were injured and could have played, but we wouldn't normally be playing.
00:25:44
So if this was, you know, if you weren't gonna be able to be available on the court for the conclusion of the season and your injury timelines, we're going to exclude you from competing.
00:25:51
That hasn't been brought up it all.
00:25:53
And I'm sure again, teams that wouldn't complain would be like the Bucks, who would say, Well, kiddies getting back on the court. Come on, knock it off.
00:26:00
The other thing that I'd be curious about is, do you think that one behind closed doors where the next? Maybe one of the teams that that would have said if asked.
00:26:07
Honestly? Either way, we don't We don't need to play in this postseason to avoid the conversation on candy.
00:26:13
And then, secondarily, do you think maybe if the Nets are it leaves valuing the idea of going back to the playoffs again? Because that's a feather in the franchises tapping the rebuild.
00:26:23
Would they may be utilized kg just for the eight games toe.
00:26:26
Let him have some level of competition and say that was it.
00:26:29
We just want to make sure we secured our spot.
00:26:31
You got to flex your, you know, athletic muscles, your MBA muscles.
00:26:35
Again.
00:26:36
We're not going to risk you for this long term postseason run.
00:26:39
I think that I think just being able to see what they have in the jar here and continually to see, you know what, players can kind of step up.
00:26:47
We already saw rotational changes near the end of the season.
00:26:51
Shot phone was already playing things differently.
00:26:52
There was just different rotations going on as it was.
00:26:55
I think that that is for their purpose is not bad.
00:26:58
I think those teams were probably caught in this in between, which is to say, gun to their head.
00:27:04
They probably rather just have the summer and come back next year.
00:27:08
If you got him into a room and just gave him truth serum, I think most would say, Obviously, at this point, the better thing would just be the call.
00:27:17
This this is too weird, too much.
00:27:18
It's two different, but at the same time they understand the optics around it and the money, peace and all this other stuff is has a certain value as well.
00:27:28
And so you have probably the Nets and say, What does this really mean for us? It's at most probably 12 games, right? Like, even figure they just get swept out of the first round.
00:27:37
And so I just But I think most teams will probably say that, but maybe something I mean, outside of like, you know, the battle team said it.
00:27:47
So the way we know all the bad teams that aren't in it already said it.
00:27:50
So that was that.
00:27:51
Made that one easy to try to figure out if they voted. Yes.
00:27:54
Um, now, I don't know if the pressure was on from the board of Governors to say, Hey, we finally found the landed on something.
00:27:59
Not everyone's gonna be happy with that.
00:28:00
Everyone just get out boarded.
00:28:01
Vote yes.
00:28:02
And we can just kind of move on.
00:28:03
The fans want the games to come back.
00:28:04
We kind of need the games to come back.
00:28:06
We look good.
00:28:07
Look how bad baseball looks right now, right? Frightened foal looks.
00:28:09
They're not baseball, soccer, plucking that baseball like they're just not going.
00:28:13
So they're not gonna figure it out these guys can't figure it out there.
00:28:16
Just that season, I would almost guarantee, is awash.
00:28:19
Um, whether baseball is able to come back with the bad ill will that they're going to probably get by having this, Who knows? I think the MBA was happy to, from a logistical standpoint, to say, We don't want to be baseball, right? Right way.
00:28:33
We need not to.
00:28:34
This I think everyone's kind of this happened, is happy to get on board.
00:28:37
And But I think I'm just a surgically playing the games point of view.
00:28:41
I think most teams would have happily impacted in my now right.
00:28:44
We'll get out on this from a next perspective that they're coming back to play.
00:28:49
Ah, risk reward of injury.
00:28:52
But when you think about the roster and maybe even a guys like Jared Allen, you saw that DeAndre Jordan was.
00:28:58
It was getting more and more playing time there.
00:29:00
Do you think that you'll see maybe more Jared Allen? For the sake of Hey, this is the chance to get an actress getting more looking.
00:29:06
Jared Allen will give him as much of a runner's.
00:29:08
We came here and try to focus on him and maybe save the body of a DeAndre Jordan older veteran player.
00:29:13
That might be one of those guys. It says.
00:29:15
I don't really need to come back and do this.
00:29:16
And then, maybe even secondarily, is this House money where the Nets take a look at Nick Claxton? Unlike they never would have done this during the regular season or a traditional season.
00:29:26
But because you're in this mode, do they take a look at a guy like that or Moussa? Any of these places that had swept in the first round of playoffs might as well see what did Claxton or some of these guys look like against the highest level, even a even if she owes it now, I think at this point it's your best bet for the Nets.
00:29:43
Is that throw your very best product out there? I don't think this should be your training ground.
00:29:46
I think you're kind of I hate to see that we're lucky because they're not lucky.
00:29:50
But they're lucky to be part of this group, and I think, and they probably know that they have a limited window.
00:29:56
Like I said, 12 to 13 games is probably the Max.
00:29:58
I think I could see them playing.
00:30:00
Um And so at that point, I think that I think what you see from them is best foot forward.
00:30:05
I don't think they're going to use this as let's see what we have in boost like, I don't think we're gonna I really don't think they should either.
00:30:12
I think that the edict is gonna be This is end the season sort of playoff basketball.
00:30:17
And this is outside of your arrest in LeBron because you want to try to look win a championship or something like that and it's very obvious why you're doing it outside of that.
00:30:26
I think that it really it really be a bad look.
00:30:29
If a team, if they just said, Hey, let's see what we have in younger like they weren't really doing that at the end of the season anyway, So I don't know why they didn't want doing that.
00:30:37
What we saw from job fallen to begin with, right? They were they were literally locked into making the plant so they could actually attack.
00:30:43
That's why that I don't know why at this point, the attitude would shift, and especially if anything, goes back the other way.
00:30:48
We see major minutes from some of these guys.
00:30:50
Is this sort of work their way in? I will be interesting at around a minute.
00:30:53
They probably actually can't probably nobody's meal push the minutes to to have a year to start.
00:30:57
But now I think it's best foot forward for them as we Obviously, as we get closer and closer now, we'll have even more things to really be talking about as teams prepare for this.
00:31:06
Do you feel all things considered? Do you feel like I know you've said it ass trick on the championship here? Is this about as legitimate as you could make it? Though it seems like all the primarily all the teams are gonna be there that you thought would have been there for season.
00:31:17
It finished? Yeah, I think so.
00:31:19
I think we'll see that.
00:31:20
I think we're gonna see most of the teams that deserved to be in the playoffs.
00:31:22
Most of the team's best foot forward.
00:31:23
I don't think I'm gonna walk back my ass trick.
00:31:26
I never really meant that I would give it an ass trick.
00:31:29
I thought that the collective that that you thought the Portland Trailblazers Look, those crowned themselves champion.
00:31:37
Because if we have to play the whole season, you don't even know what they had in store.
00:31:40
By the way, they're really health.
00:31:42
Exactly.
00:31:43
Wonder Market is gonna play.
00:31:44
We can talk about that later.
00:31:45
I think it was I thought, you know, you may have benefited as well if markets was able to play in this.
00:31:49
And that is about to come back.
00:31:51
He was I'm pretty sure I should I should just look this up.
00:31:53
He was about to come back and a limited form, their second best player.
00:31:56
So I'll report work, you know? Look, they they have such a good chance to just be a vastly better team that they especially they think they can play him well, in the shooting public.
00:32:05
Um, yeah, I think overall, I'm just pumped ID that we have a date on the calendar and basketball is going to come back, and it's gonna look cool and different.
00:32:12
Maybe cool.
00:32:13
I think about trying to make it pretty cool.
00:32:14
And B, it's pretty good about stuff like this.
00:32:16
So I'm just excited that we haven't beat now.
00:32:18
Yeah, that's all.
00:32:19
I can wait for so obviously a lot more things and what were interesting developmental content that will be able to talk about unlike what has been a very difficult stretch where nothing has been happening.
00:32:28
And once the last dance went off the air, I really just starting to a bit of a depression.
00:32:31
So quick shoutouts to you.
00:32:33
Ah, Paddy Whack and Cup King.
00:32:34
Thanks for checking in on the broadcast with us, along with everybody else that joined in here.
00:32:38
As always, you can follow us on social media at We got Nets head over to iTunes or wherever you get your podcast, download rate review and subscribe.
00:32:46
Doug and I'll be back in on Tuesday of next week, as we typically do during this covert isolation era.
00:32:53
Talking all things next, basketball.
00:32:55
Thank you to Doug Stir.
00:32:56
We will contact with you soon.

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