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00:14:44
scored on guys.
00:14:45
James Zuba of Dunes magician.
00:14:47
And we're joined today by none other than former Syracuse star Eric Stephen Dorff, also a member of Boeheim's Army since inception.
00:14:55
And we'll get it's all that.
00:14:57
But, you know, first Eric were living in some interesting times and everything going on.
00:15:02
Just how are you doing through this time? How are you holding up? Um, I know, you know, once the Corona virus outbreak started, started doing, you know, videos, instructional videos, and those have been very well received.
00:15:14
ESPN picked it up last week.
00:15:16
So just how have you been doing throughout this time? Uh, I'm gonna do a good man.
00:15:22
Um, you know, as far as you know, the Corona virus and all that.
00:15:25
Uh, no.
00:15:26
Just kind of trying to keep it moving and trying to do stuff like like said, doing the videos.
00:15:31
And you try to keep kids and people engaged and keep the positive stuff going on.
00:15:37
Um and you know, as far as you know, what's going on recently, you know, with the protests and riots, it's upsetting, man. Yeah.
00:15:45
No, it's your angry at what's happening because it's it's been happening over and over again.
00:15:51
And, um, you know, the racism, racism and towards black people and minorities is, you know, keeps going on her, You know what I mean? So it's it's I understand the protest.
00:16:03
I don't condone, you know, obviously looting the breaking stuff.
00:16:06
But, um, I understand.
00:16:09
You know, sometimes you know why people do it, because, uh, you know the frustration, um, you know, from over and over, you know, nothing is really being heard.
00:16:18
So I guess that's their way of trying to get the point across.
00:16:22
But, um, you know, it's it's tough, man.
00:16:26
Uh, you know, that stuff is, ah, something that needs to be changed immediately.
00:16:31
And, uh, you know, hopefully we get hopefully we can figure a way out to do that.
00:16:36
Yeah, no doubt.
00:16:38
You know, just sort of this past week, every fad protests and a protester of riots across the country.
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In some cases, obviously you don't condone that stuff, but But, like you said, I think people have felt no impressed.
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For a while, they haven't been hurt.
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So this is the way of sort trying, trying, You know the message out there, but I think one place that handle there.
00:16:58
Really? Well, was was fun.
00:17:00
Michigan, which you're very familiar with.
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You've helped out in the past, the water crisis and all that.
00:17:06
Mary, you know very well this past weekend, the police chief, he kind of came out.
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He took the helmet off and said, You know, I want to turn this thing into a parade.
00:17:15
It was very well received there, so I just just wanted to get your take on that really quick.
00:17:19
You know, what did you see there and what was your reaction? Well, and you know what? That's I think, one of many around the country that, uh, you know, uh, police shares have gone about it that way.
00:17:30
Obviously, the media likes toe portray the negative stuff and put all that stuff out there and make it worse.
00:17:37
But, uh, that's happening around, you know, cities more than you know.
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And, um, you know, it's That's awesome for Flint.
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And that's what it should be.
00:17:44
You know, that's, um Let's figure this out.
00:17:47
Let's come together.
00:17:48
We're here to protect you and me.
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You know, you're the citizens, and you know, we're the police.
00:17:53
We gotta work together.
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We got it.
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We got a find, a common denominator.
00:17:56
You know what I mean? So we're not going to agree on everything, but, um, never should have come to, uh, killing somebody, you know? I mean, it's regardless, I know. I understand.
00:18:08
People do wrong things is people commit crimes, but, you know, never shouldn't should have come down to that, you know, unless to keep somebody.
00:18:16
They're having guns or whatever it is, but, you know, it's so it's so it's good to see, you know, um, the police and the people coming together and trying to figure out, um hopefully that spreads to, um, you know, communities around the country.
00:18:30
And, um, you know, we could focus on that, no doubt.
00:18:34
So, uh, you know, we just want to get your take their but we could, uh, you know, we can lighten the mood up a little bit, you know, we can switch gears and talk about We got some TBT.
00:18:43
Hopefully, that happens real soon.
00:18:45
I think the country really needs sports in the worst way.
00:18:48
Yeah, right now.
00:18:49
So hopefully we get that, but, you know, just for you going into it, Obviously you've been a part of Boeheim's army since inception.
00:18:57
Uh, really, since since the first year? Well, I think the second year.
00:18:59
TV Tea, First year.
00:19:01
Boeheim's Army.
00:19:02
You know, you've been around every summer.
00:19:03
So first for you, like why do it? Why continue to come out? You know, even as you get older on What's the experience been like for you? Just a chance toe.
00:19:12
Get around some of the former Syracuse guys.
00:19:14
It's almost kind of like, Yeah, well, for me, I mean, I just love the game.
00:19:19
I love to play. I love to compete.
00:19:21
That's my passion.
00:19:22
You know, basketball has been with me since, you know, 67 years old.
00:19:27
Ah, you know, I've never had a regular job of doing some notes.
00:19:32
It's always been basking.
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Means So, um, you know, for me to be able to get opportunity again, to go out there compete, especially with my guys.
00:19:40
It's a no brainer in the experience.
00:19:43
Every year it seems like it's got better and better.
00:19:45
You know what I mean? Just as faras the experience and and obviously the TV tea, um, you know, they keep growing and they keep getting better.
00:19:53
They keep finding different ways toe, make it better and make it more appealing.
00:19:57
Um, you know, as you as you can see each year, more and more.
00:20:01
College alumni team, sign up.
00:20:03
You know, this year I saw Nate Robinson signed up.
00:20:06
Tyreese writes.
00:20:07
I mean, guys who are, you know, high level players, You know, some of the best players in the country, you know, And there in the world Excuse me in the world.
00:20:14
So, um, you know, the T V.
00:20:16
T is an awesome job.
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Like I said, it's been awesome every summer.
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Man.
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Get back with my guys planned, competing.
00:20:23
Um, And I'm looking forward to this summer, man.
00:20:25
You know, it's only they, uh you know, I think they're gonna do it early July July 4th through the tent.
00:20:33
So it's it's it's ah, no, it's a month away.
00:20:36
You know what I mean? So because it's going on for sure, I know you said that they might do it.
00:20:40
It's it's It's for sure they're doing it there.
00:20:43
There haven't been so no, I'm looking forward to getting out there.
00:20:46
We got a good squad put together, and, um, you know, we say it every year.
00:20:51
Hey, this is a year, but, uh, I'm gonna say it one more time.
00:20:54
This is This is the year, you know what I mean.
00:20:56
So we're gonna go out there and have fun and no doubt a new look roster a little bit this year.
00:21:02
We'll get into that, but TBT came out.
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They tweeted today.
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Might be coming sooner than you think.
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So is that the date is July 4th through the 10th early.
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So why, we could say Yeah, keep that between us.
00:21:15
I know, I know.
00:21:17
I know it's out there right now, but way don't got it.
00:21:20
We don't have to tweet it out or anything like that.
00:21:22
Uh, that's no, that's what That's what I think it's gonna be.
00:21:27
I mean, that's that's what I've been here.
00:21:28
It's gonna be early because, you know, they don't want toe, you know, go head to head with NBA starting up Toso.
00:21:34
They they want to be able to start a little bit earlier.
00:21:37
Um, but yet, man, that would be awesome to get back out through my guys.
00:21:41
Yeah, it makes total sense.
00:21:42
You get ahead of the N b a little bit.
00:21:45
Hopefully the new worship will rise with that.
00:21:47
You know, it is really a lot of us create basketball, so Oh, yeah, I think everybody will tune it, you know, because it's the first basketball first sports.
00:21:56
Really? Besides, I think NASCAR or something, I think NASCAR in UFC fighting.
00:22:01
But you know, it's fashionable football baseball that people want to see those, you know.
00:22:06
I mean, so it'll be, I think a lot of people definitely doing in for sure.
00:22:09
No question, no question.
00:22:11
So it's it's gonna be a little bit of a new look this year, obviously, condensed the 24 teams a little bit smaller field than what we're used to prize money.
00:22:20
So the same $2 million tournament winner take all, but yeah, it's gonna be in one location and over the course of 10 days.
00:22:26
So how do you think the new structure this year? And you know, the new structure makes sense in the current environment.
00:22:33
How do you think that will impact you guys as a team or the tournament as a whole? Well, I know.
00:22:39
Well, I know where it's gonna be at to what? I'm not gonna tell you guys that I know I'm not gonna do it.
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Especially if I slipped up.
00:22:47
I was, um but I think they're doing a great job.
00:22:52
I think you know, they're being cautious.
00:22:54
They're doing what they have to do.
00:22:55
You know, we got to get tested three times over there and, you know, before each and every game, their quarantine, each team to theirselves and you know, they're providing the food and stuff like that.
00:23:05
So, um, it'll be good.
00:23:08
You know, it's out there, man.
00:23:10
It's gonna It's not gonna be there.
00:23:12
It's just you got, you know, take precautions, be safe.
00:23:17
But at the same time, you can't You can't live in fear, right? I mean, it's it's tough, It's tough.
00:23:23
You just But, you know, I'm looking forward to and I think they're doing a good job, you know, uh, safety measures and looking forward to getting getting out there and play for sure. Sure.
00:23:33
And yes.
00:23:34
So you guys kind of have a little bit of a younger roster this year? A little bit different.
00:23:38
I added a little bit more shooting.
00:23:40
We know Captain Bell B and black.
00:23:42
Good job reaching out to guys.
00:23:44
Inform the team and you're a part of that as well.
00:23:47
So So what was the I guess March are going into the roster build this year.
00:23:51
What were you guys trying to do? Was it ADM or shooting more shooting at the forward center position and then get a little bit younger? Or was it just a We'll get the best guys that are available? Well, we definitely wanted to get your hunger.
00:24:05
You know, we want to get some guys who get up and down, you know, run the floor and you have those legs, you know? And then we want that mixed up with a little better in leadership.
00:24:16
Obviously getting be Nick back.
00:24:18
Uh, you know myself, John Galen.
00:24:20
Guys who had experienced be Trish.
00:24:22
Ah.
00:24:23
But then, you know, we're versatile where long were athletic.
00:24:26
Uh, it's probably the most athletic team we've ever had.
00:24:29
It ended, but those guys could shoot the ball.
00:24:31
So, you know, pick your poison.
00:24:33
Really? You know, that's and that's that's really kind of how it is now.
00:24:36
The TVT it's it's more of ah ah, a guard game.
00:24:40
You know, even the bigs.
00:24:42
You know, the forest or five.
00:24:43
They're stepping out, picking a popping, and then they're able to, you know, get into a wonderful or drive all the way.
00:24:48
So we have those guys, you know, Tyler Light and Chris McCullough.
00:24:52
Um, you know, big guys who could run and jump in there and, you know, obviously shoot the ball as well.
00:24:57
So it'll be fun, because there will be, Ah, it'll be a lot more space on that floor, you know, with guys running the floor and get down.
00:25:06
I think we can, um, get a lot of easy buckets just being guys down the floor, you know, just a easy lob dunk.
00:25:12
So, um, it'll be fun to get go put out there for sure.
00:25:18
And now, But before you guys get out So wherever the location ends up being are you guys all able to get into the gym and practice right now or how does that go? You guys just keep in touch.
00:25:27
Or how does that sort of work right now? Well, I know a couple of guys, you know, I think Chris is in Atlanta, which is opened, so I mean, he's not having a problem getting and Jim and then I think Malik eyes in Las Vegas and it same same deal.
00:25:38
They're open out there, too.
00:25:39
So they're getting in gyms.
00:25:41
And then, um, I'm fortunate enough that I have I know somebody was a nice little private gym so I could get out there and, uh, you know, get some working, and then, uh, I think I think guys, you know, there have been working out.
00:25:53
I mean, these guys are pro players, so they're gonna find a way.
00:25:57
Uh, and I think most guys have ways to get into Jim's. Wherever.
00:26:02
There.
00:26:03
Yeah, for sure.
00:26:04
Just just speaking on that really quick while it's brought up.
00:26:07
I saw your working out with Buddy a little bit last week in the gym.
00:26:11
Um, what are those workouts like? How long have you worked out with buddy? Is it? I mean, obviously he was around the program when he was younger and all those sorts of things, But how often do you work with him? How long is that relationship in there? Oh, man, I've been live nobody and give me a sense, you know, every side in the Syracuse.
00:26:31
But I you have been working with Buddy since he was a junior in high school.
00:26:35
You know, I think No, just Yeah, it was.
00:26:37
Probably had junior high school.
00:26:39
Um, but and then, you know, I was back and forth, obviously, uh, going at university, tried and playing and whatnot, but, um, we really kind of got after it a little bit the last Friday.
00:26:53
Ah, few weeks, you know, pretty, like 45 times a week.
00:26:57
You know, just trying to sharpen things up and then add a little bit more. It was bag.
00:27:02
You know, getting down gives it a bucket and, uh, being able to create a little bit off the dribble.
00:27:07
Uh, and then and then Jimmy, he comes and works out to and, um, I don't know if a lot of people seeing a plaque or no, but he's good.
00:27:14
Like he's is.
00:27:16
He's better than love.
00:27:17
You would know like he's 6 80 strong.
00:27:19
You can put it on the floor, you know, he's creativity buckets.
00:27:23
So it's awesome working those guys because they're hard workers and they just love to work.
00:27:27
So it's been really fun doing that, No doubt.
00:27:31
Little sneaky with that leftie to he's he's he's actually it's crazy because he's actually better coming back to his right? Yeah, so? So he's No, he's Yeah, he's definitely creative down there.
00:27:43
I think he shoots it left, right? But he's got, like, a writing floater.
00:27:46
There's something like that. Absolutely.
00:27:48
Yeah, he he could get to drive to the left and gets back to that right here is good footwork for big Gasset. Gotcha.
00:27:55
Cool.
00:27:56
You know, just going back to the workout video.
00:27:58
I've never seen this before, but you know, you're feeding Buddy the ball and he's stationary, but he's taken a dribble and going up into the shop without moving.
00:28:08
And then, in another Siri's, that's he's catching it.
00:28:10
He's taken aback, dribble two steps and then pulling up.
00:28:13
Oh, the warm appear, the warm of you.
00:28:16
Maybe I just saw the warm up then, but yeah, that was put.
00:28:21
So I put two on.
00:28:22
It was one.
00:28:23
We're just did a warm up, just working on all battles to control.
00:28:25
Okay, it's probably take, like, 10 15 minutes, and I put him where we're kind of going live action one dribble pull ups to dribble stuff like that.
00:28:32
But the one you're talking about, um, where there was one of them were just form shoot.
00:28:38
And then we're going so just piled right into the shot, both hands.
00:28:41
Then we'll go into our past.
00:28:42
It will kill, be stepping backwards with both feet and then we'll do it with the ball.
00:28:47
Well, pounds stepping back with both feet.
00:28:50
So it's all awful work.
00:28:51
All ballots, all control.
00:28:54
Because when you're doing, it's it may not look hard, but when you're doing it, it's stuff, you know what I mean.
00:29:00
And then this just translates to when you know, you get into any situation with your feet.
00:29:05
You're comfortable enough to go into the shop.
00:29:07
Need effort, sir.
00:29:08
And then just just one last thing got him real quick.
00:29:10
You know? What do you see for him next year? Because he had a really good year this year.
00:29:14
I think he had, like, 15 a game and played well in a CC.
00:29:18
Shot the heck out of the ball.
00:29:19
Almost 100 3 That Yeah, he was on pace.
00:29:23
I think I'm like January.
00:29:24
February was on pace to break and your white single season record.
00:29:28
So yeah, you with? Yeah, but yeah.
00:29:31
What do you see for him? Next year.
00:29:33
I mean, how good can he be in? We saw him take it off the bounce a little bit more of this year, But can you do more than extra? Yeah, I think I think for him it's just about confidence and being comfortable doing that.
00:29:44
Like last year.
00:29:46
You saw him getting more comfortable doing a getting in the lane, getting into that little two dribble pull up right into the ah, mid range area.
00:29:53
Um, I think now he's he's learning to be ableto, you know, be more creative with, you know, if he doesn't get cut off, he can, you know, spend back and working on those type of feet.
00:30:02
You know what I mean? That it's a lot of footwork when you're working with guys because, um, you know, good.
00:30:07
If you have great footwork, you can get you out of bad situations.
00:30:10
If you know what I'm talking about it, you can get into a situation where you get cut off.
00:30:14
But if you know how to have the rightful work to get out of it to a different shot, um, you know you'll be better off.
00:30:20
So working on that type of stuff and but he'll be better because he's in the gym.
00:30:25
He just in the gym every to his confidence is good.
00:30:27
You know, it is growing again and getting, you know Ah, better.
00:30:31
So, um, yeah, I expect big things from next year.
00:30:34
I think he'll take that leap.
00:30:36
I mean, he took a leap from, you know, freshman to sop****re.
00:30:40
Now, I think from software to junior, um, he's gonna be more of a leader more confident, Uh, and just going up here in playing this game Hey, does have those leadership qualities as well started.
00:30:52
I think I started to see it a little bit more this year.
00:30:54
Like obviously, Elijah was the guy.
00:30:56
But just the way he speaks of the way he handles himself when he talks about the program, absolutely feeling he's getting more confident with himself.
00:31:04
Yeah, but you know, I don't want to talk too much about your Syracuse career because I feel like everybody watching.
00:31:10
They probably already familiar.
00:31:12
They know your career, Syracuse, and you're well versed about that.
00:31:15
But I know you said recently a couple of times that when you were getting recruited, we'll get into that a little bit of initially, you committed a Michigan state, and then you decommitted and had to call Tom Izzo, and he said something like, that was gonna be a terrible mistake.
00:31:35
But yes, he said, he said that From what I recall, he said that that's probably the worst city that you're gonna make.
00:31:43
And I was like, I was like, All right, you know, I'm thinking myself, I got I'm 16.
00:31:47
I got a lot more, You know, I got a lot warmer six to make, But, uh, you know, at that time, it was, you know, all the best player for Michigan either.
00:31:57
Went to Michigan and Michigan State, you know? I mean, I was, you know, having a estate, you know, I'm goingto kill already, you know? So people were like, Why? Why red play where you got leave, like back then, If people weren't doing it now, you know, now it's dissection that everyone's trying to go toe, You know, a school like that, president, whatever.
00:32:17
So But you had no hard feelings, man.
00:32:19
That's just that's just how it went down.
00:32:21
And it all worked out for everyone, you know.
00:32:25
So So I gotta ask you were on the strength.
00:32:27
The strike staff in 2018 when you guys beat them to go toe the sweet 16.
00:32:34
Was it? Did you say anything to Did you guys talk it all throughout the game or like after before the game? We can't when coaches going shake hands? Yeah, We said he just asked me how I've been and stuff like that.
00:32:47
And then after the game, not much, you know, to shake his hand.
00:32:51
He was upset, you know? But he got out coach coach behind, well coached him, and he didn't make adjustments.
00:32:56
And I remember he put you put the big guy in the middle of the big white guy in the middle, and he wasn't knocking down any shot, you know, views and had probably one of the display maker in that middle to go ahead and do some, but yeah, that was a big That was a huge win.
00:33:11
That game for sure, for sure.
00:33:13
I think Jaren Jackson played, like, 16 minutes or something.
00:33:16
You got final trouble.
00:33:17
And then and then he really never put him back in, but heck of a culture me behind.
00:33:24
He earned his money that you just slowed everything down.
00:33:26
And, Charlie, only six guys.
00:33:29
Really? Seven guys.
00:33:31
You're it is morning. Sure.
00:33:33
No. No question.
00:33:35
What? Um, we're talking about a few things about just your Syracuse career.
00:33:39
I don't want to get, like, 200.
00:33:40
Everybody knows the six overtime gave it all that stuff.
00:33:44
You know, just looking back on your Syracuse career.
00:33:46
What was that like, Just sort of, you know, being the guy covered in your freshman year.
00:33:51
Um, you know, you're playing kind of next to Jerry on, and then you kind of go on and have the career.
00:33:58
How would you summarize that? Just looking back.
00:34:01
What was that experience like? Oh, it was awesome.
00:34:05
Um, I think it was, uh, really good for me because Coach really gave me a lot of freedom, you know, to make mistakes and just play through.
00:34:13
And he does that with the guys that he has confidence in, You know? I mean, saying with the Mac, same with Johnny.
00:34:19
You know, guys like that, uh, you know, obviously, Melo, um no guys who could just play and play never say because he knows that they're gonna come back and make a play you know, So I really enjoyed my time.
00:34:30
Um, obviously options, you know, ups and downs.
00:34:33
But, you know, that's life.
00:34:34
But, um, overall, you know, outstanding experience.
00:34:38
And to be able to learn from, you know, one of the greatest coaches of all time.
00:34:43
Um and then, you know, make the relationships that I made.
00:34:46
I mean, you know, it's crazy because just being a part of the Syracuse family, I mean, I could tell you how many people I've met just, uh, being Syracuse fans or alumni or somehow they're connected.
00:35:00
Syracuse And it's it's unreal.
00:35:02
You, you know, you tell people, but, you know, really go through.
00:35:07
It's like, you know, it's pretty cool, man.
00:35:09
So, um, you know, to be able to have that career and then, you know, still be connected.
00:35:15
The Syracuse family and it's it's It's big.
00:35:19
It goes, it goes no long way.
00:35:21
So I'm happy to be a part of that, and I was happy about you know how things went.
00:35:26
You mentioned being able to learn from bay.
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What's the best Jim Bay have story that you have that you can share? The best piece? The best day.
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Okay, so I mean, I got a couple of one was I'll share out share one.
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Okay. Said Yeah.
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Um, so, yeah, I forget we're well, because I think you're right about myself where you are my junior.
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I don't know, but we're in the were in the huddle after practice.
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And this is when coach he was in the commercial with with Melo, it was I think it was like when they showed him and he was actually sitting on the stupid balls.
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And this is when they just showed his high school coach and then, uh, Code Bay.
00:36:11
I'm and showed I think they went through the years in the commercial.
00:36:15
Whatever.
00:36:17
So after we were in the Oval after practice and I was just I was to coach, I was like a coach.
00:36:21
That was awesome.
00:36:22
That scene in the middle, of course, it was pretty cool.
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And then and he was just like it this way.
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Yeah, that was a quick 100,000.
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Okay, that's the impression down.
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Yeah, it was bad after that.
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Everybody like man, he disliked something real big coat.
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But that was funny. Very.
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That's coach. He's He's awesome.
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That's great.
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I think you got? I think it's a good ah is a d c. Story.
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When you guys were the Big East tournament.
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Your freshman year.
00:36:56
Oh, yeah.
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George sounded the half, right.
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He came here.
00:37:01
He, uh He came in 1/2 time, and he was just Kirsten.
00:37:04
No, he's cursed everyone out.
00:37:06
Person the bigs out.
00:37:07
Really? Uh, because that's his position.
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So he was going at him and coach kind of just fell back and let him do his thing.
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And, you know, after he was done talking coaches like, All right, let's get it out of love.
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And then we and then we went out there and and made that come back, you know? So it was Ah, I guess it was the D. C.
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Effect. Okay, whatever. You said work.
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So, yeah, I got it.
00:37:32
Yeah, You with the game winning layup in that at the end of that one.
00:37:36
I love it because Jerry had made two really big shots the two previous nights before in that run.
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And, you know, he kind of fast it ahead to you without even thinking twice about it.
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I think a lot of guys like they might have felt like the pressure to be the guy.
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Take the big shot, you know? But he had, like, full faith in you in the past.
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You know? What? What was it about that play that was just so awesome? And then also, like, how is it for you? What was that feeling like just in the game.
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Where such a big stage.
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And in that kind of it, I mean, well, first off, I mean, you make right away.
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We had a connection.
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When I came my freshman year and him being a senior, me being a freshman, he kind of took me under his wing right away.
00:38:16
Um, show me the ropes.
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And, um, like I said, instant connection.
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We were just playing off each other from the beginning, you know, started practice into the season.
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I really had a good feel for each other.
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So I had that trust, um, in him.
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And then, you know, if I was open, he was gonna hit me If he was open, outgoing, have you know So, um and and that's my you know, that's my brother.
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Still in this day.
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So I had a really good freshman year playing with G Mech, and he really taught me a lot.
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Uh, you know, just how to compete super hard and and be fearless.
00:38:48
You know what I mean? I learned a lot of the little details from him and then, you know, to hit a layup like that, and as a freshman against your sound and George shout out they had Jeff Green Roy ever.
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They had 10 had a big team.
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And then, um, you know, in mass and Square Garden ESPN like, um, no, it's a big stage.
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So it was cool, man.
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And I was like a I was a brash young freshman, so I was definitely, uh, showing out after that.
00:39:16
I remember that.
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Eso we get shift gears a little bit, too.
00:39:21
I mean, I don't want too much on the Q stuff, but, um, yeah, I want to talk about, like your pro career a little bit because I think a lot of people don't know about, like, your pro career, But you had a lot of opportunities overseas and, um, you know, just to start, like, where all the countries that you played all the all the teams that you played for over your program So I played in New Zealand, Australia, turkey, Ukraine, uh, worlds.
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I play Greece for a little bit. Israel.
00:39:50
Um And then I did the D league for a little bit, uh, and have success in all those countries, Man.
00:39:56
Some some countries were, you know, Greece, for instance.
00:39:59
I went there and they weren't turned a baby, you know, they were trying baby on time, you know? So you got to go somewhere else.
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Um, went to New Zealand and one a couple championship.
00:40:07
Ah, a couple score inside does Everywhere I went, I really has success, you know, Ukraine.
00:40:14
Same situation in Europe.
00:40:15
You know, people got to know over this overseas is different ball.
00:40:19
You know what I mean? You might you might you know, everybody might play, you know, 15 to 17 minutes, you know, to mean or something like that.
00:40:26
So you really got to go in there, take advantage of that time given, so But, man, it was awesome experience, man.
00:40:34
Uh, got to see some.
00:40:37
Got to see and meet some great people.
00:40:39
Um, experience different cultures.
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Get paid for playing the game and traveling the country.
00:40:43
You're traveling the world.
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Um, you know Australia and New Zealand were two of the greatest places I ever been in my life.
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Um, so I'm just grateful for all the experiences.
00:40:53
And, you know, it was so good basketball that I played, uh, you know, I play with Josh based overseas in New Zealand.
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So, um, you know, in a lot of guys that I've known from played against from college, So Oh, you know, it was awesome.
00:41:07
And it was it was awesome, really do that.
00:41:09
Not a lot of people get to travel the world and do what they love to do and get paid for.
00:41:13
Yeah, is funny, like guys talk about guys who don't make the MBA is if, like, it's a death sentence and that I think we've come a long way.
00:41:21
Understanding, like playing pro ball overseas is still pretty darn good.
00:41:25
But, you know, as you mentioned, you get all these experiences.
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You get to travel.
00:41:29
No different people experiencing food, different culture.
00:41:33
What experienced ex attitude the most about playing overseas? Er, which country did you enjoy the most? For me, being in New Zealand and Australia is about two favorite countries.
00:41:48
You know, I go, I go live in either one of them right away.
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You know? And I've made a lot of, uh, lifelong friends in those places, you know? So I still keep in touch with a lot of people there.
00:41:58
Uh, and they're just beautiful countries, man.
00:42:00
They're they're great places to be.
00:42:03
And, you know, for anyone, um, you know who's looking to go somewhere? I suggest you, you know, you get there before, you know, it's all said and done.
00:42:12
You know what I mean? It's those air two great countries.
00:42:14
And I think, uh, for me, one of the it was a cool experience.
00:42:20
It was, but it was like it was like being in a place I've never been before.
00:42:26
And that was Ukraine.
00:42:27
It was just Eastern Europe.
00:42:28
And, you know, it was it was different, man.
00:42:31
It was It was cold and grade.
00:42:33
It was really It was like, you know, you're living in city.
00:42:36
That's just been Yeah, well, it was a little bit more like you just bend in a war like the city.
00:42:42
Just been in a war, you know, that means so really like old Soviet Union fields, you know, like, kind of those type of vibes, you know So But it was the experience to be able to, you know, experience that, you know, experience, somebody else's culture and everybody speaking Russian to you.
00:42:57
You know, it's something that a lot of people don't get to say they did.
00:43:00
So, yeah, it's it's had a lot of pretty cool experiences.
00:43:06
How long were you in Greece? I was in Greece for a month.
00:43:10
I lived in Happens for a month.
00:43:11
Yeah, I identify that.
00:43:14
They weren't trying to get my money out.
00:43:16
I think it's more common in some leagues.
00:43:19
Oh, no, Like some teams just can't be payroll.
00:43:21
They just can't pay you.
00:43:23
I mean, or they're just whatever.
00:43:25
I mean, it's a contract is just a contract overseas unless you get those big, big Euroleague teams.
00:43:31
And even then there, there, late on the favorite, you know what I mean.
00:43:33
So, um, you know, it's in.
00:43:36
Everyone's situation is different.
00:43:38
You know it.
00:43:39
You know, agents knows people.
00:43:41
It's it's different when she gets it.
00:43:42
Once you get that pro level, it's it's ah, could be politics involved.
00:43:46
It could be different things of, uh, you just hope you get to a situation where you're gonna get your money.
00:43:52
Sure.
00:43:53
Well, the one month that you were in Athens, did you get to see the Acropolis and all that? I did a part tonight.
00:44:00
Yeah, that I did.
00:44:01
I went in there and see where they had the first Olympics ever.
00:44:04
Um, yeah, I definitely I definitely got to see some cool stuff in Athens, and then I got to go, um, you know, to a couple places right on the beach and and 1/2.
00:44:14
And then it's like I think it's I forget what it's called.
00:44:17
It's a different parts, like, 45 minutes away from where I was living.
00:44:20
So it was cool, man, I got Yeah, Greece is beautiful.
00:44:24
Greece is definitely for sure.
00:44:27
Did you, uh did you spend time in South America at all or No, I did. I did.
00:44:32
Didn't send me that himself working. Okay.
00:44:35
So that you were overseas.
00:44:36
Where did you finish up? Was it in the G Leaguer? Did you finish up somewhere overseas? Uh, I finished up in New Zealand.
00:44:43
Okay, Those that was that I went out.
00:44:45
I went there, like, three separate times.
00:44:48
Um, so I Really? I really liked it there.
00:44:50
I really enjoyed it.
00:44:51
So yeah, I finished there.
00:44:52
Gosh, What? What was, like the final, I guess.
00:44:56
Like maybe maybe the wrong word, like now in the coffin for you where you said OK, I got it.
00:45:00
I got a quick play and I gotta get back to coaching.
00:45:04
What made you made made you shiver plan.
00:45:07
I mean, for me, it was just My girls are getting older, you know? And they were in school, and, you know, they're growing, So I want to be there for that.
00:45:15
I want to see that, uh, you know, being overseas, that's, you know, 89 months at a time, So that's will be missing a lot, you know? I mean, so, um, I want to be there for that.
00:45:25
You know, I could still play.
00:45:26
I could still go over there right now, play, you know, But it's just No, it's the choice that I made.
00:45:33
And then I remember being overseas and New Zealand Texan coach may have asking, you know about getting out of staff.
00:45:38
And that's kind of that, uh, no.
00:45:41
Came about.
00:45:42
So, uh, yeah, it was a decision that I had to make my family, and now we're here.
00:45:49
So he's all good? Yeah.
00:45:52
So? So why? Why, Like the big shift from, you know, playing ball overseas.
00:45:56
Teoh want to see Is that just come with you? Just that maturity is that being in so many different locations? You know what? Why is that? Why that should Why the sudden just stay? Oh, no. Yeah.
00:46:10
What does that become important to? You know, being around family is because you get older, those sorts of things.
00:46:17
Yeah.
00:46:18
I mean, you know, anyone who has kids, you know, they want to be there for you, especially.
00:46:22
You know, girls, you want to be in their lives and make sure they're learned the right things.
00:46:26
They need both parents, You know what I mean? Uh, it's a totally different thing, you know, Skype or FaceTime on of them being there in the present.
00:46:34
So that was That was I mean, the deciding factor right there.
00:46:39
Just want to be there for them and, you know, make sure they have a dad their home, you know? I mean, rather than just looking at a facetime.
00:46:47
All that's out, right? And then you know what will get you out of here with this one.
00:46:51
But just for you, since you've been back and Syracuse and but you got off the Detroit or whatever, You've been a very vocal member of the community here.
00:46:59
Um, Syracuse is really special, so on and so forth, but well, why have you come back and wanted to do things like the co driver, you know, getting kids free haircuts and so on and so forth.
00:47:14
Why have you wanted to do that in the community? Well, I mean, really, Wherever I go, I want to be able to do that.
00:47:21
I want to be able to give back and do something for somebody else.
00:47:25
Yeah, but Syracuse is in a very special place to me.
00:47:30
Uh, just because of how the community took me in and how they supported me through the ups and downs and did so much for me.
00:47:37
And still to this day do so so much for me, You know, um, you know, just going out in here and people say, Hey, hey, Devo Or did you have in your name whatever it ISS is cool, man.
00:47:47
It's I really like that.
00:47:49
And it just It just goes to show that well, they respect and, uh, and really love what you did and for the university in the communities.
00:47:59
So it's only right to be able to give back, and and I'll try to do something for them and do something for the people of this community that maybe Ernest Fortunate.
00:48:08
It's me and you, you know what I mean? So, um, I'm gonna continue to do that, Um, continue toe help.
00:48:15
You know, the community that's helped me up, love it and continue to do it with the videos and stuff now just keeping kids engaged.
00:48:22
So anyone that doesn't know how can they keep up with you happen to see the videos? How can they participate along with the training and all that? Um, so I put a post on the videos on social media.
00:48:33
Uh, my instagram is just my name Eric Stephen Dorff.
00:48:37
And then my Twitter is at e the e v e n 23 and then my lengthen is just my name too.
00:48:45
So I just I just post them all on, You know, all three social media is just tryingto again.
00:48:50
Get it out, engage keep people engaged.
00:48:53
And it doesn't just have to be kids.
00:48:55
I've had, um, you know, 35 year old men send me videos of them doing, you know, doing ah, German drills.
00:49:03
Seriously, it's really in its awesome man.
00:49:05
And, you know, I'm tryingto trying to get a workout in our just their love for the game, you know, to be so, um and it makes me feel girl.
00:49:14
Good.
00:49:15
So, uh, I may continue to keep doing it.
00:49:17
And, uh, yeah, all those three social media sites you guys can check that out and look at all the drills.
00:49:24
Awesome. Well, thank you for that cyber.
00:49:26
You appreciate it.
00:49:27
A great deal, obviously looking forward to TV tea and hopefully a little bit of a return of sports.
00:49:31
Here's keep doing what you're doing.
00:49:34
And you know, we'll keep you posted things for us.
00:49:37
Live coverage of news throughout T v t.
00:49:39
And you know, we're looking forward.
00:49:41
Awesome.
00:49:42
Man.
00:49:43
I appreciate you having me. I finally made it. All right.
00:49:47
Yeah. Thank you.

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scored on guys.
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James Zuba of Dunes magician.
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And we're joined today by none other than former Syracuse star Eric Stephen Dorff, also a member of Boeheim's Army since inception.
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And we'll get it's all that.
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But, you know, first Eric were living in some interesting times and everything going on.
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Just how are you doing through this time? How are you holding up? Um, I know, you know, once the Corona virus outbreak started, started doing, you know, videos, instructional videos, and those have been very well received.
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ESPN picked it up last week.
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So just how have you been doing throughout this time? Uh, I'm gonna do a good man.
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Um, you know, as far as you know, the Corona virus and all that.
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Uh, no.
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Just kind of trying to keep it moving and trying to do stuff like like said, doing the videos.
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And you try to keep kids and people engaged and keep the positive stuff going on.
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Um and you know, as far as you know, what's going on recently, you know, with the protests and riots, it's upsetting, man. Yeah.
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No, it's your angry at what's happening because it's it's been happening over and over again.
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And, um, you know, the racism, racism and towards black people and minorities is, you know, keeps going on her, You know what I mean? So it's it's I understand the protest.
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I don't condone, you know, obviously looting the breaking stuff.
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But, um, I understand.
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You know, sometimes you know why people do it, because, uh, you know the frustration, um, you know, from over and over, you know, nothing is really being heard.
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So I guess that's their way of trying to get the point across.
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But, um, you know, it's it's tough, man.
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Uh, you know, that stuff is, ah, something that needs to be changed immediately.
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And, uh, you know, hopefully we get hopefully we can figure a way out to do that.
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Yeah, no doubt.
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You know, just sort of this past week, every fad protests and a protester of riots across the country.
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In some cases, obviously you don't condone that stuff, but But, like you said, I think people have felt no impressed.
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For a while, they haven't been hurt.
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So this is the way of sort trying, trying, You know the message out there, but I think one place that handle there.
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Really? Well, was was fun.
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Michigan, which you're very familiar with.
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You've helped out in the past, the water crisis and all that.
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Mary, you know very well this past weekend, the police chief, he kind of came out.
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He took the helmet off and said, You know, I want to turn this thing into a parade.
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It was very well received there, so I just just wanted to get your take on that really quick.
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You know, what did you see there and what was your reaction? Well, and you know what? That's I think, one of many around the country that, uh, you know, uh, police shares have gone about it that way.
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Obviously, the media likes toe portray the negative stuff and put all that stuff out there and make it worse.
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But, uh, that's happening around, you know, cities more than you know.
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And, um, you know, it's That's awesome for Flint.
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And that's what it should be.
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You know, that's, um Let's figure this out.
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Let's come together.
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We're here to protect you and me.
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You know, you're the citizens, and you know, we're the police.
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We gotta work together.
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We got it.
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We got a find, a common denominator.
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You know what I mean? So we're not going to agree on everything, but, um, never should have come to, uh, killing somebody, you know? I mean, it's regardless, I know. I understand.
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People do wrong things is people commit crimes, but, you know, never shouldn't should have come down to that, you know, unless to keep somebody.
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They're having guns or whatever it is, but, you know, it's so it's so it's good to see, you know, um, the police and the people coming together and trying to figure out, um hopefully that spreads to, um, you know, communities around the country.
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And, um, you know, we could focus on that, no doubt.
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So, uh, you know, we just want to get your take their but we could, uh, you know, we can lighten the mood up a little bit, you know, we can switch gears and talk about We got some TBT.
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Hopefully, that happens real soon.
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I think the country really needs sports in the worst way.
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Yeah, right now.
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So hopefully we get that, but, you know, just for you going into it, Obviously you've been a part of Boeheim's army since inception.
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Uh, really, since since the first year? Well, I think the second year.
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TV Tea, First year.
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Boeheim's Army.
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You know, you've been around every summer.
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So first for you, like why do it? Why continue to come out? You know, even as you get older on What's the experience been like for you? Just a chance toe.
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Get around some of the former Syracuse guys.
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It's almost kind of like, Yeah, well, for me, I mean, I just love the game.
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I love to play. I love to compete.
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That's my passion.
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You know, basketball has been with me since, you know, 67 years old.
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Ah, you know, I've never had a regular job of doing some notes.
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It's always been basking.
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Means So, um, you know, for me to be able to get opportunity again, to go out there compete, especially with my guys.
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It's a no brainer in the experience.
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Every year it seems like it's got better and better.
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You know what I mean? Just as faras the experience and and obviously the TV tea, um, you know, they keep growing and they keep getting better.
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They keep finding different ways toe, make it better and make it more appealing.
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Um, you know, as you as you can see each year, more and more.
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College alumni team, sign up.
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You know, this year I saw Nate Robinson signed up.
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Tyreese writes.
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I mean, guys who are, you know, high level players, You know, some of the best players in the country, you know, And there in the world Excuse me in the world.
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So, um, you know, the T V.
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T is an awesome job.
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Like I said, it's been awesome every summer.
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Man.
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Get back with my guys planned, competing.
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Um, And I'm looking forward to this summer, man.
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You know, it's only they, uh you know, I think they're gonna do it early July July 4th through the tent.
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So it's it's it's ah, no, it's a month away.
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You know what I mean? So because it's going on for sure, I know you said that they might do it.
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It's it's It's for sure they're doing it there.
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There haven't been so no, I'm looking forward to getting out there.
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We got a good squad put together, and, um, you know, we say it every year.
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Hey, this is a year, but, uh, I'm gonna say it one more time.
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This is This is the year, you know what I mean.
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So we're gonna go out there and have fun and no doubt a new look roster a little bit this year.
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We'll get into that, but TBT came out.
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They tweeted today.
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Might be coming sooner than you think.
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So is that the date is July 4th through the 10th early.
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So why, we could say Yeah, keep that between us.
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I know, I know.
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I know it's out there right now, but way don't got it.
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We don't have to tweet it out or anything like that.
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Uh, that's no, that's what That's what I think it's gonna be.
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I mean, that's that's what I've been here.
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It's gonna be early because, you know, they don't want toe, you know, go head to head with NBA starting up Toso.
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They they want to be able to start a little bit earlier.
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Um, but yet, man, that would be awesome to get back out through my guys.
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Yeah, it makes total sense.
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You get ahead of the N b a little bit.
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Hopefully the new worship will rise with that.
00:21:47
You know, it is really a lot of us create basketball, so Oh, yeah, I think everybody will tune it, you know, because it's the first basketball first sports.
00:21:56
Really? Besides, I think NASCAR or something, I think NASCAR in UFC fighting.
00:22:01
But you know, it's fashionable football baseball that people want to see those, you know.
00:22:06
I mean, so it'll be, I think a lot of people definitely doing in for sure.
00:22:09
No question, no question.
00:22:11
So it's it's gonna be a little bit of a new look this year, obviously, condensed the 24 teams a little bit smaller field than what we're used to prize money.
00:22:20
So the same $2 million tournament winner take all, but yeah, it's gonna be in one location and over the course of 10 days.
00:22:26
So how do you think the new structure this year? And you know, the new structure makes sense in the current environment.
00:22:33
How do you think that will impact you guys as a team or the tournament as a whole? Well, I know.
00:22:39
Well, I know where it's gonna be at to what? I'm not gonna tell you guys that I know I'm not gonna do it.
00:22:45
Especially if I slipped up.
00:22:47
I was, um but I think they're doing a great job.
00:22:52
I think you know, they're being cautious.
00:22:54
They're doing what they have to do.
00:22:55
You know, we got to get tested three times over there and, you know, before each and every game, their quarantine, each team to theirselves and you know, they're providing the food and stuff like that.
00:23:05
So, um, it'll be good.
00:23:08
You know, it's out there, man.
00:23:10
It's gonna It's not gonna be there.
00:23:12
It's just you got, you know, take precautions, be safe.
00:23:17
But at the same time, you can't You can't live in fear, right? I mean, it's it's tough, It's tough.
00:23:23
You just But, you know, I'm looking forward to and I think they're doing a good job, you know, uh, safety measures and looking forward to getting getting out there and play for sure. Sure.
00:23:33
And yes.
00:23:34
So you guys kind of have a little bit of a younger roster this year? A little bit different.
00:23:38
I added a little bit more shooting.
00:23:40
We know Captain Bell B and black.
00:23:42
Good job reaching out to guys.
00:23:44
Inform the team and you're a part of that as well.
00:23:47
So So what was the I guess March are going into the roster build this year.
00:23:51
What were you guys trying to do? Was it ADM or shooting more shooting at the forward center position and then get a little bit younger? Or was it just a We'll get the best guys that are available? Well, we definitely wanted to get your hunger.
00:24:05
You know, we want to get some guys who get up and down, you know, run the floor and you have those legs, you know? And then we want that mixed up with a little better in leadership.
00:24:16
Obviously getting be Nick back.
00:24:18
Uh, you know myself, John Galen.
00:24:20
Guys who had experienced be Trish.
00:24:22
Ah.
00:24:23
But then, you know, we're versatile where long were athletic.
00:24:26
Uh, it's probably the most athletic team we've ever had.
00:24:29
It ended, but those guys could shoot the ball.
00:24:31
So, you know, pick your poison.
00:24:33
Really? You know, that's and that's that's really kind of how it is now.
00:24:36
The TVT it's it's more of ah ah, a guard game.
00:24:40
You know, even the bigs.
00:24:42
You know, the forest or five.
00:24:43
They're stepping out, picking a popping, and then they're able to, you know, get into a wonderful or drive all the way.
00:24:48
So we have those guys, you know, Tyler Light and Chris McCullough.
00:24:52
Um, you know, big guys who could run and jump in there and, you know, obviously shoot the ball as well.
00:24:57
So it'll be fun, because there will be, Ah, it'll be a lot more space on that floor, you know, with guys running the floor and get down.
00:25:06
I think we can, um, get a lot of easy buckets just being guys down the floor, you know, just a easy lob dunk.
00:25:12
So, um, it'll be fun to get go put out there for sure.
00:25:18
And now, But before you guys get out So wherever the location ends up being are you guys all able to get into the gym and practice right now or how does that go? You guys just keep in touch.
00:25:27
Or how does that sort of work right now? Well, I know a couple of guys, you know, I think Chris is in Atlanta, which is opened, so I mean, he's not having a problem getting and Jim and then I think Malik eyes in Las Vegas and it same same deal.
00:25:38
They're open out there, too.
00:25:39
So they're getting in gyms.
00:25:41
And then, um, I'm fortunate enough that I have I know somebody was a nice little private gym so I could get out there and, uh, you know, get some working, and then, uh, I think I think guys, you know, there have been working out.
00:25:53
I mean, these guys are pro players, so they're gonna find a way.
00:25:57
Uh, and I think most guys have ways to get into Jim's. Wherever.
00:26:02
There.
00:26:03
Yeah, for sure.
00:26:04
Just just speaking on that really quick while it's brought up.
00:26:07
I saw your working out with Buddy a little bit last week in the gym.
00:26:11
Um, what are those workouts like? How long have you worked out with buddy? Is it? I mean, obviously he was around the program when he was younger and all those sorts of things, But how often do you work with him? How long is that relationship in there? Oh, man, I've been live nobody and give me a sense, you know, every side in the Syracuse.
00:26:31
But I you have been working with Buddy since he was a junior in high school.
00:26:35
You know, I think No, just Yeah, it was.
00:26:37
Probably had junior high school.
00:26:39
Um, but and then, you know, I was back and forth, obviously, uh, going at university, tried and playing and whatnot, but, um, we really kind of got after it a little bit the last Friday.
00:26:53
Ah, few weeks, you know, pretty, like 45 times a week.
00:26:57
You know, just trying to sharpen things up and then add a little bit more. It was bag.
00:27:02
You know, getting down gives it a bucket and, uh, being able to create a little bit off the dribble.
00:27:07
Uh, and then and then Jimmy, he comes and works out to and, um, I don't know if a lot of people seeing a plaque or no, but he's good.
00:27:14
Like he's is.
00:27:16
He's better than love.
00:27:17
You would know like he's 6 80 strong.
00:27:19
You can put it on the floor, you know, he's creativity buckets.
00:27:23
So it's awesome working those guys because they're hard workers and they just love to work.
00:27:27
So it's been really fun doing that, No doubt.
00:27:31
Little sneaky with that leftie to he's he's he's actually it's crazy because he's actually better coming back to his right? Yeah, so? So he's No, he's Yeah, he's definitely creative down there.
00:27:43
I think he shoots it left, right? But he's got, like, a writing floater.
00:27:46
There's something like that. Absolutely.
00:27:48
Yeah, he he could get to drive to the left and gets back to that right here is good footwork for big Gasset. Gotcha.
00:27:55
Cool.
00:27:56
You know, just going back to the workout video.
00:27:58
I've never seen this before, but you know, you're feeding Buddy the ball and he's stationary, but he's taken a dribble and going up into the shop without moving.
00:28:08
And then, in another Siri's, that's he's catching it.
00:28:10
He's taken aback, dribble two steps and then pulling up.
00:28:13
Oh, the warm appear, the warm of you.
00:28:16
Maybe I just saw the warm up then, but yeah, that was put.
00:28:21
So I put two on.
00:28:22
It was one.
00:28:23
We're just did a warm up, just working on all battles to control.
00:28:25
Okay, it's probably take, like, 10 15 minutes, and I put him where we're kind of going live action one dribble pull ups to dribble stuff like that.
00:28:32
But the one you're talking about, um, where there was one of them were just form shoot.
00:28:38
And then we're going so just piled right into the shot, both hands.
00:28:41
Then we'll go into our past.
00:28:42
It will kill, be stepping backwards with both feet and then we'll do it with the ball.
00:28:47
Well, pounds stepping back with both feet.
00:28:50
So it's all awful work.
00:28:51
All ballots, all control.
00:28:54
Because when you're doing, it's it may not look hard, but when you're doing it, it's stuff, you know what I mean.
00:29:00
And then this just translates to when you know, you get into any situation with your feet.
00:29:05
You're comfortable enough to go into the shop.
00:29:07
Need effort, sir.
00:29:08
And then just just one last thing got him real quick.
00:29:10
You know? What do you see for him next year? Because he had a really good year this year.
00:29:14
I think he had, like, 15 a game and played well in a CC.
00:29:18
Shot the heck out of the ball.
00:29:19
Almost 100 3 That Yeah, he was on pace.
00:29:23
I think I'm like January.
00:29:24
February was on pace to break and your white single season record.
00:29:28
So yeah, you with? Yeah, but yeah.
00:29:31
What do you see for him? Next year.
00:29:33
I mean, how good can he be in? We saw him take it off the bounce a little bit more of this year, But can you do more than extra? Yeah, I think I think for him it's just about confidence and being comfortable doing that.
00:29:44
Like last year.
00:29:46
You saw him getting more comfortable doing a getting in the lane, getting into that little two dribble pull up right into the ah, mid range area.
00:29:53
Um, I think now he's he's learning to be ableto, you know, be more creative with, you know, if he doesn't get cut off, he can, you know, spend back and working on those type of feet.
00:30:02
You know what I mean? That it's a lot of footwork when you're working with guys because, um, you know, good.
00:30:07
If you have great footwork, you can get you out of bad situations.
00:30:10
If you know what I'm talking about it, you can get into a situation where you get cut off.
00:30:14
But if you know how to have the rightful work to get out of it to a different shot, um, you know you'll be better off.
00:30:20
So working on that type of stuff and but he'll be better because he's in the gym.
00:30:25
He just in the gym every to his confidence is good.
00:30:27
You know, it is growing again and getting, you know Ah, better.
00:30:31
So, um, yeah, I expect big things from next year.
00:30:34
I think he'll take that leap.
00:30:36
I mean, he took a leap from, you know, freshman to sop****re.
00:30:40
Now, I think from software to junior, um, he's gonna be more of a leader more confident, Uh, and just going up here in playing this game Hey, does have those leadership qualities as well started.
00:30:52
I think I started to see it a little bit more this year.
00:30:54
Like obviously, Elijah was the guy.
00:30:56
But just the way he speaks of the way he handles himself when he talks about the program, absolutely feeling he's getting more confident with himself.
00:31:04
Yeah, but you know, I don't want to talk too much about your Syracuse career because I feel like everybody watching.
00:31:10
They probably already familiar.
00:31:12
They know your career, Syracuse, and you're well versed about that.
00:31:15
But I know you said recently a couple of times that when you were getting recruited, we'll get into that a little bit of initially, you committed a Michigan state, and then you decommitted and had to call Tom Izzo, and he said something like, that was gonna be a terrible mistake.
00:31:35
But yes, he said, he said that From what I recall, he said that that's probably the worst city that you're gonna make.
00:31:43
And I was like, I was like, All right, you know, I'm thinking myself, I got I'm 16.
00:31:47
I got a lot more, You know, I got a lot warmer six to make, But, uh, you know, at that time, it was, you know, all the best player for Michigan either.
00:31:57
Went to Michigan and Michigan State, you know? I mean, I was, you know, having a estate, you know, I'm goingto kill already, you know? So people were like, Why? Why red play where you got leave, like back then, If people weren't doing it now, you know, now it's dissection that everyone's trying to go toe, You know, a school like that, president, whatever.
00:32:17
So But you had no hard feelings, man.
00:32:19
That's just that's just how it went down.
00:32:21
And it all worked out for everyone, you know.
00:32:25
So So I gotta ask you were on the strength.
00:32:27
The strike staff in 2018 when you guys beat them to go toe the sweet 16.
00:32:34
Was it? Did you say anything to Did you guys talk it all throughout the game or like after before the game? We can't when coaches going shake hands? Yeah, We said he just asked me how I've been and stuff like that.
00:32:47
And then after the game, not much, you know, to shake his hand.
00:32:51
He was upset, you know? But he got out coach coach behind, well coached him, and he didn't make adjustments.
00:32:56
And I remember he put you put the big guy in the middle of the big white guy in the middle, and he wasn't knocking down any shot, you know, views and had probably one of the display maker in that middle to go ahead and do some, but yeah, that was a big That was a huge win.
00:33:11
That game for sure, for sure.
00:33:13
I think Jaren Jackson played, like, 16 minutes or something.
00:33:16
You got final trouble.
00:33:17
And then and then he really never put him back in, but heck of a culture me behind.
00:33:24
He earned his money that you just slowed everything down.
00:33:26
And, Charlie, only six guys.
00:33:29
Really? Seven guys.
00:33:31
You're it is morning. Sure.
00:33:33
No. No question.
00:33:35
What? Um, we're talking about a few things about just your Syracuse career.
00:33:39
I don't want to get, like, 200.
00:33:40
Everybody knows the six overtime gave it all that stuff.
00:33:44
You know, just looking back on your Syracuse career.
00:33:46
What was that like, Just sort of, you know, being the guy covered in your freshman year.
00:33:51
Um, you know, you're playing kind of next to Jerry on, and then you kind of go on and have the career.
00:33:58
How would you summarize that? Just looking back.
00:34:01
What was that experience like? Oh, it was awesome.
00:34:05
Um, I think it was, uh, really good for me because Coach really gave me a lot of freedom, you know, to make mistakes and just play through.
00:34:13
And he does that with the guys that he has confidence in, You know? I mean, saying with the Mac, same with Johnny.
00:34:19
You know, guys like that, uh, you know, obviously, Melo, um no guys who could just play and play never say because he knows that they're gonna come back and make a play you know, So I really enjoyed my time.
00:34:30
Um, obviously options, you know, ups and downs.
00:34:33
But, you know, that's life.
00:34:34
But, um, overall, you know, outstanding experience.
00:34:38
And to be able to learn from, you know, one of the greatest coaches of all time.
00:34:43
Um and then, you know, make the relationships that I made.
00:34:46
I mean, you know, it's crazy because just being a part of the Syracuse family, I mean, I could tell you how many people I've met just, uh, being Syracuse fans or alumni or somehow they're connected.
00:35:00
Syracuse And it's it's unreal.
00:35:02
You, you know, you tell people, but, you know, really go through.
00:35:07
It's like, you know, it's pretty cool, man.
00:35:09
So, um, you know, to be able to have that career and then, you know, still be connected.
00:35:15
The Syracuse family and it's it's It's big.
00:35:19
It goes, it goes no long way.
00:35:21
So I'm happy to be a part of that, and I was happy about you know how things went.
00:35:26
You mentioned being able to learn from bay.
00:35:29
What's the best Jim Bay have story that you have that you can share? The best piece? The best day.
00:35:40
Okay, so I mean, I got a couple of one was I'll share out share one.
00:35:47
Okay. Said Yeah.
00:35:49
Um, so, yeah, I forget we're well, because I think you're right about myself where you are my junior.
00:35:55
I don't know, but we're in the were in the huddle after practice.
00:35:58
And this is when coach he was in the commercial with with Melo, it was I think it was like when they showed him and he was actually sitting on the stupid balls.
00:36:07
And this is when they just showed his high school coach and then, uh, Code Bay.
00:36:11
I'm and showed I think they went through the years in the commercial.
00:36:15
Whatever.
00:36:17
So after we were in the Oval after practice and I was just I was to coach, I was like a coach.
00:36:21
That was awesome.
00:36:22
That scene in the middle, of course, it was pretty cool.
00:36:24
And then and he was just like it this way.
00:36:28
Yeah, that was a quick 100,000.
00:36:32
Okay, that's the impression down.
00:36:36
Yeah, it was bad after that.
00:36:38
Everybody like man, he disliked something real big coat.
00:36:42
But that was funny. Very.
00:36:45
That's coach. He's He's awesome.
00:36:47
That's great.
00:36:48
I think you got? I think it's a good ah is a d c. Story.
00:36:52
When you guys were the Big East tournament.
00:36:54
Your freshman year.
00:36:56
Oh, yeah.
00:36:58
George sounded the half, right.
00:37:00
He came here.
00:37:01
He, uh He came in 1/2 time, and he was just Kirsten.
00:37:04
No, he's cursed everyone out.
00:37:06
Person the bigs out.
00:37:07
Really? Uh, because that's his position.
00:37:09
So he was going at him and coach kind of just fell back and let him do his thing.
00:37:14
And, you know, after he was done talking coaches like, All right, let's get it out of love.
00:37:20
And then we and then we went out there and and made that come back, you know? So it was Ah, I guess it was the D. C.
00:37:27
Effect. Okay, whatever. You said work.
00:37:29
So, yeah, I got it.
00:37:32
Yeah, You with the game winning layup in that at the end of that one.
00:37:36
I love it because Jerry had made two really big shots the two previous nights before in that run.
00:37:43
And, you know, he kind of fast it ahead to you without even thinking twice about it.
00:37:47
I think a lot of guys like they might have felt like the pressure to be the guy.
00:37:51
Take the big shot, you know? But he had, like, full faith in you in the past.
00:37:55
You know? What? What was it about that play that was just so awesome? And then also, like, how is it for you? What was that feeling like just in the game.
00:38:01
Where such a big stage.
00:38:04
And in that kind of it, I mean, well, first off, I mean, you make right away.
00:38:09
We had a connection.
00:38:10
When I came my freshman year and him being a senior, me being a freshman, he kind of took me under his wing right away.
00:38:16
Um, show me the ropes.
00:38:17
And, um, like I said, instant connection.
00:38:20
We were just playing off each other from the beginning, you know, started practice into the season.
00:38:25
I really had a good feel for each other.
00:38:27
So I had that trust, um, in him.
00:38:30
And then, you know, if I was open, he was gonna hit me If he was open, outgoing, have you know So, um and and that's my you know, that's my brother.
00:38:37
Still in this day.
00:38:38
So I had a really good freshman year playing with G Mech, and he really taught me a lot.
00:38:43
Uh, you know, just how to compete super hard and and be fearless.
00:38:48
You know what I mean? I learned a lot of the little details from him and then, you know, to hit a layup like that, and as a freshman against your sound and George shout out they had Jeff Green Roy ever.
00:38:59
They had 10 had a big team.
00:39:01
And then, um, you know, in mass and Square Garden ESPN like, um, no, it's a big stage.
00:39:08
So it was cool, man.
00:39:09
And I was like a I was a brash young freshman, so I was definitely, uh, showing out after that.
00:39:16
I remember that.
00:39:19
Eso we get shift gears a little bit, too.
00:39:21
I mean, I don't want too much on the Q stuff, but, um, yeah, I want to talk about, like your pro career a little bit because I think a lot of people don't know about, like, your pro career, But you had a lot of opportunities overseas and, um, you know, just to start, like, where all the countries that you played all the all the teams that you played for over your program So I played in New Zealand, Australia, turkey, Ukraine, uh, worlds.
00:39:47
I play Greece for a little bit. Israel.
00:39:50
Um And then I did the D league for a little bit, uh, and have success in all those countries, Man.
00:39:56
Some some countries were, you know, Greece, for instance.
00:39:59
I went there and they weren't turned a baby, you know, they were trying baby on time, you know? So you got to go somewhere else.
00:40:04
Um, went to New Zealand and one a couple championship.
00:40:07
Ah, a couple score inside does Everywhere I went, I really has success, you know, Ukraine.
00:40:14
Same situation in Europe.
00:40:15
You know, people got to know over this overseas is different ball.
00:40:19
You know what I mean? You might you might you know, everybody might play, you know, 15 to 17 minutes, you know, to mean or something like that.
00:40:26
So you really got to go in there, take advantage of that time given, so But, man, it was awesome experience, man.
00:40:34
Uh, got to see some.
00:40:37
Got to see and meet some great people.
00:40:39
Um, experience different cultures.
00:40:41
Get paid for playing the game and traveling the country.
00:40:43
You're traveling the world.
00:40:45
Um, you know Australia and New Zealand were two of the greatest places I ever been in my life.
00:40:50
Um, so I'm just grateful for all the experiences.
00:40:53
And, you know, it was so good basketball that I played, uh, you know, I play with Josh based overseas in New Zealand.
00:41:00
So, um, you know, in a lot of guys that I've known from played against from college, So Oh, you know, it was awesome.
00:41:07
And it was it was awesome, really do that.
00:41:09
Not a lot of people get to travel the world and do what they love to do and get paid for.
00:41:13
Yeah, is funny, like guys talk about guys who don't make the MBA is if, like, it's a death sentence and that I think we've come a long way.
00:41:21
Understanding, like playing pro ball overseas is still pretty darn good.
00:41:25
But, you know, as you mentioned, you get all these experiences.
00:41:28
You get to travel.
00:41:29
No different people experiencing food, different culture.
00:41:33
What experienced ex attitude the most about playing overseas? Er, which country did you enjoy the most? For me, being in New Zealand and Australia is about two favorite countries.
00:41:48
You know, I go, I go live in either one of them right away.
00:41:51
You know? And I've made a lot of, uh, lifelong friends in those places, you know? So I still keep in touch with a lot of people there.
00:41:58
Uh, and they're just beautiful countries, man.
00:42:00
They're they're great places to be.
00:42:03
And, you know, for anyone, um, you know who's looking to go somewhere? I suggest you, you know, you get there before, you know, it's all said and done.
00:42:12
You know what I mean? It's those air two great countries.
00:42:14
And I think, uh, for me, one of the it was a cool experience.
00:42:20
It was, but it was like it was like being in a place I've never been before.
00:42:26
And that was Ukraine.
00:42:27
It was just Eastern Europe.
00:42:28
And, you know, it was it was different, man.
00:42:31
It was It was cold and grade.
00:42:33
It was really It was like, you know, you're living in city.
00:42:36
That's just been Yeah, well, it was a little bit more like you just bend in a war like the city.
00:42:42
Just been in a war, you know, that means so really like old Soviet Union fields, you know, like, kind of those type of vibes, you know So But it was the experience to be able to, you know, experience that, you know, experience, somebody else's culture and everybody speaking Russian to you.
00:42:57
You know, it's something that a lot of people don't get to say they did.
00:43:00
So, yeah, it's it's had a lot of pretty cool experiences.
00:43:06
How long were you in Greece? I was in Greece for a month.
00:43:10
I lived in Happens for a month.
00:43:11
Yeah, I identify that.
00:43:14
They weren't trying to get my money out.
00:43:16
I think it's more common in some leagues.
00:43:19
Oh, no, Like some teams just can't be payroll.
00:43:21
They just can't pay you.
00:43:23
I mean, or they're just whatever.
00:43:25
I mean, it's a contract is just a contract overseas unless you get those big, big Euroleague teams.
00:43:31
And even then there, there, late on the favorite, you know what I mean.
00:43:33
So, um, you know, it's in.
00:43:36
Everyone's situation is different.
00:43:38
You know it.
00:43:39
You know, agents knows people.
00:43:41
It's it's different when she gets it.
00:43:42
Once you get that pro level, it's it's ah, could be politics involved.
00:43:46
It could be different things of, uh, you just hope you get to a situation where you're gonna get your money.
00:43:52
Sure.
00:43:53
Well, the one month that you were in Athens, did you get to see the Acropolis and all that? I did a part tonight.
00:44:00
Yeah, that I did.
00:44:01
I went in there and see where they had the first Olympics ever.
00:44:04
Um, yeah, I definitely I definitely got to see some cool stuff in Athens, and then I got to go, um, you know, to a couple places right on the beach and and 1/2.
00:44:14
And then it's like I think it's I forget what it's called.
00:44:17
It's a different parts, like, 45 minutes away from where I was living.
00:44:20
So it was cool, man, I got Yeah, Greece is beautiful.
00:44:24
Greece is definitely for sure.
00:44:27
Did you, uh did you spend time in South America at all or No, I did. I did.
00:44:32
Didn't send me that himself working. Okay.
00:44:35
So that you were overseas.
00:44:36
Where did you finish up? Was it in the G Leaguer? Did you finish up somewhere overseas? Uh, I finished up in New Zealand.
00:44:43
Okay, Those that was that I went out.
00:44:45
I went there, like, three separate times.
00:44:48
Um, so I Really? I really liked it there.
00:44:50
I really enjoyed it.
00:44:51
So yeah, I finished there.
00:44:52
Gosh, What? What was, like the final, I guess.
00:44:56
Like maybe maybe the wrong word, like now in the coffin for you where you said OK, I got it.
00:45:00
I got a quick play and I gotta get back to coaching.
00:45:04
What made you made made you shiver plan.
00:45:07
I mean, for me, it was just My girls are getting older, you know? And they were in school, and, you know, they're growing, So I want to be there for that.
00:45:15
I want to see that, uh, you know, being overseas, that's, you know, 89 months at a time, So that's will be missing a lot, you know? I mean, so, um, I want to be there for that.
00:45:25
You know, I could still play.
00:45:26
I could still go over there right now, play, you know, But it's just No, it's the choice that I made.
00:45:33
And then I remember being overseas and New Zealand Texan coach may have asking, you know about getting out of staff.
00:45:38
And that's kind of that, uh, no.
00:45:41
Came about.
00:45:42
So, uh, yeah, it was a decision that I had to make my family, and now we're here.
00:45:49
So he's all good? Yeah.
00:45:52
So? So why? Why, Like the big shift from, you know, playing ball overseas.
00:45:56
Teoh want to see Is that just come with you? Just that maturity is that being in so many different locations? You know what? Why is that? Why that should Why the sudden just stay? Oh, no. Yeah.
00:46:10
What does that become important to? You know, being around family is because you get older, those sorts of things.
00:46:17
Yeah.
00:46:18
I mean, you know, anyone who has kids, you know, they want to be there for you, especially.
00:46:22
You know, girls, you want to be in their lives and make sure they're learned the right things.
00:46:26
They need both parents, You know what I mean? Uh, it's a totally different thing, you know, Skype or FaceTime on of them being there in the present.
00:46:34
So that was That was I mean, the deciding factor right there.
00:46:39
Just want to be there for them and, you know, make sure they have a dad their home, you know? I mean, rather than just looking at a facetime.
00:46:47
All that's out, right? And then you know what will get you out of here with this one.
00:46:51
But just for you, since you've been back and Syracuse and but you got off the Detroit or whatever, You've been a very vocal member of the community here.
00:46:59
Um, Syracuse is really special, so on and so forth, but well, why have you come back and wanted to do things like the co driver, you know, getting kids free haircuts and so on and so forth.
00:47:14
Why have you wanted to do that in the community? Well, I mean, really, Wherever I go, I want to be able to do that.
00:47:21
I want to be able to give back and do something for somebody else.
00:47:25
Yeah, but Syracuse is in a very special place to me.
00:47:30
Uh, just because of how the community took me in and how they supported me through the ups and downs and did so much for me.
00:47:37
And still to this day do so so much for me, You know, um, you know, just going out in here and people say, Hey, hey, Devo Or did you have in your name whatever it ISS is cool, man.
00:47:47
It's I really like that.
00:47:49
And it just It just goes to show that well, they respect and, uh, and really love what you did and for the university in the communities.
00:47:59
So it's only right to be able to give back, and and I'll try to do something for them and do something for the people of this community that maybe Ernest Fortunate.
00:48:08
It's me and you, you know what I mean? So, um, I'm gonna continue to do that, Um, continue toe help.
00:48:15
You know, the community that's helped me up, love it and continue to do it with the videos and stuff now just keeping kids engaged.
00:48:22
So anyone that doesn't know how can they keep up with you happen to see the videos? How can they participate along with the training and all that? Um, so I put a post on the videos on social media.
00:48:33
Uh, my instagram is just my name Eric Stephen Dorff.
00:48:37
And then my Twitter is at e the e v e n 23 and then my lengthen is just my name too.
00:48:45
So I just I just post them all on, You know, all three social media is just tryingto again.
00:48:50
Get it out, engage keep people engaged.
00:48:53
And it doesn't just have to be kids.
00:48:55
I've had, um, you know, 35 year old men send me videos of them doing, you know, doing ah, German drills.
00:49:03
Seriously, it's really in its awesome man.
00:49:05
And, you know, I'm tryingto trying to get a workout in our just their love for the game, you know, to be so, um and it makes me feel girl.
00:49:14
Good.
00:49:15
So, uh, I may continue to keep doing it.
00:49:17
And, uh, yeah, all those three social media sites you guys can check that out and look at all the drills.
00:49:24
Awesome. Well, thank you for that cyber.
00:49:26
You appreciate it.
00:49:27
A great deal, obviously looking forward to TV tea and hopefully a little bit of a return of sports.
00:49:31
Here's keep doing what you're doing.
00:49:34
And you know, we'll keep you posted things for us.
00:49:37
Live coverage of news throughout T v t.
00:49:39
And you know, we're looking forward.
00:49:41
Awesome.
00:49:42
Man.
00:49:43
I appreciate you having me. I finally made it. All right.
00:49:47
Yeah. Thank you.

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