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Code 14.
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As always, I'm joined by my co host, Steve Lewis.
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What's going on, Steve? I made it.
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I know you had some trouble getting out of work and everything like that, but you made it.
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I'm glad you could join that way.
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I don't have to do in the podcast by myself.
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I get It was awful.
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Ah, so I just want to start out by saying quickly, um, we did have an interview schedule with Keith Smith, a writer, and be a writer for Yahoo Sports and Celtics Blawg.
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And, um, he had to, ah, back out.
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He just wasn't really feeling it right now with everything that's going on and we hear, you know, I hope Jews, we completely understand, You know, in the grand scheme of things, this podcast really isn't what's most important with all the things that are going on in the world right now.
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So we completely understand that respect his decision, and we hope to have him on the show of the future episodes for sure.
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So, um, just a shout out to him.
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And like I said, we look forward to having one in future episodes.
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So today's episode we're going to start out by.
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I want to get into the MBA s.
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So we have a little bit more clarity on the season and what the MBA is gonna look like when it returns.
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Last episode we talked about, you know, start dates and things of that nature.
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And, you know, I have predicted the 25th.
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It turns out that B is coming back the 31st of July and, ah, off to buy just a week.
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But they have settled on a 31st July 31st return date, and they have put forth four competition competition scenarios in which to return to play.
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So, uh, those competitions scenarios are number one ah, 16 teams coming back, seated normally east, eight seeds in West, eight seeds.
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Or you could have the 16 teams receded and having cross conference matches.
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The second scenario would be for 20 teams to go to Florida and to have a World Cup style group stage format, we would have four groups and the third scenario would be 22 teams where you would have a plane tournament for the final seeds from the throughout the bottom teams and then the final scenario is all 30 teams going to the bubble in Orlando and having them play some regular season games about up to 75.
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So that be 10 more regular season games, playing out for seeding and then eventually starting the playoffs.
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Eso Steve, I'll start by asking.
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You mean what's your favorite scenario, if at all.
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You like any, um and what do you think the N B A might want to do or what would be the best thing for them to do? Going forward? I do like the 22 teams scenario.
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I think that it's important to give some of those bottom teams a chance to be able to play their way into the playoffs.
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If there's any chance, I think that it's a pretty much gives it.
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Za about more of the younger talent gives them a chance to be able to put them on the stage in the playoffs.
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I think that it's very important that they want those ions and the job Marantz to be a little bit more showcased and I know you've heard Ah Damilola, Lillard Express Ah, his want to be able to wait.
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Why show up if he's not gonna be able to be able have thought that a play for doesn't make sense to put himself in harm's way.
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My question to you about the If they just did the 16 team format, what's the playoff series is going to be like? Would it be Standard seven game seven games? Adam Silver has said from Day one that he's wanted seven game playoff series for the playoffs to make it as realistic as possible on one of the biggest reasons you said for that is he didn't want to have the eventual MBA champion that have a gastric next to his name because a lot of people are saying that dependent whoever wins this championship, that could be an ass trick next to it with a different format and playing at a neutral core and things like that.
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So he wanted to try to make it as normal or as real as a regular NB season would be.
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Now that would that be the same for the 22 teams scenario like countless.
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Once you get into the playoffs, it would be the same.
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So you the 22 teams scenario you'd have playing tournament, which would be a single elimination tournament to get into the bottom seating, you play for the bottom seeds and then once the bottom seeds or sat with all 16 seeds or set, then that's when the seven game series would start.
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So either way, they would still be seven games.
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Siri exactly eventually, once, once a quote unquote playoffs hit because some of the part might be warm up games, playing games, regular season games.
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Those are all going to be just one game and then once the playoffs start, is when you get into the seven game series.
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I know the big snag that they had was it was with the TV deals, and I know they're not gonna be able to make any money from attendance.
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This this coming playoffs was that they wanted all the teams to be able to play some sort of regular season because there was a certain amount of games that they need each team to be able to play, to be able to hit ah benchmark for TV contracts to make certain amounts of money.
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I believe it was like 69 or 71 games and I think that's why they wanted to get some of those teams.
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Or if not all those teams like you're saying like the bottom feeders that have no chance to even make the player in some sort of regular season formats.
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Obviously, it doesn't make sense that bring those teams back because they realistically have no chance.
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If you want to give those top seeds, though, a chance to be able to get warmed up, though, I think it's kind of necessary, though, to get them some sort of reps prior to a pregnancy.
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E, I think would be unfair to give warmups to ah play in scenario because that kind of good little bit of a jump start prior to them getting into things thing they said that they don't want to happen is like they don't want the up proceeded teams with teams that have busted there ******* season to get a higher seed, and then they eventually have to play a team.
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Let's just say the New Orleans pelicans, for example, no.
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The New Orleans Pelicans playing a plan tournament and they get hot and they won 34 games in a row to get into the playoffs.
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Now they gotta play a team or higher seeded team pleasantly and played a game.
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Yet you know that's still going to be rusty cans gonna be chemistry issues and things like that.
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You don't want that happen because that puts the top seed.
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That unfair advantage, especially at a neutral court.
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Don't have home court advantage.
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So you need these teams toe, have playing games or practice games.
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However, you want to look at it to make sure they're ready for competition because right away you can just throw him into the playoffs because it's not gonna be good basketball. It's gonna be sloppy.
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There's gonna be a higher risk of injury.
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These guys, like we have said in past, shows some of them working out.
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But some of them, like we talked about like Jason Tatum, hasn't picked up a basketball, you know, since the cool quarantine things started.
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So who knows what these guys have been doing? So they're gonna need time to get back into the swing of things and get ready to go to place in basketball.
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The one thing I will refute, though, and it kind of like trends me back like thinking of like college based tournaments like the where if they're probably going to be playing an accelerated tournament Foreman, Mr when they're going to claim back to back days, they're not gonna be spreading out like every other day games, are they? Yeah, you would think so, because now you would think so.
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Because you don't have to have you probably could do two games in a row or just have one day.
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You know, there's no Travis that you don't have to give two days for travel or anything like that, cause everybody's gonna be at the same location.
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I mean, then you have to compete with I mean, there's still other events.
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You have to get in, and the MBA eventually got to get the draft and eventually gonna get some league in free agency things like that.
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Adam Silver has always said to one of the biggest things is he doesn't wanna have to compete with the NFL.
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What's that starts in the NFL.
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If everything starts on time, is going to start the first couple weeks in September.
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So, um, they're battling a time as well, so I agree with you.
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I think that is something they'll do.
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They haven't come out and said it yet, but they'll have to have an accelerated schedule and, like you said, probably place him back to back games and things like that.
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Well, as long as the teams are getting a seven game series out of it and they are going to probably play back to back games, I think that that would still favor.
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It's the better teams in the long run, because I think they would get their legs under him after a little while.
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And I think that would probably be more of a detriment at some point to those teams that probably had to play three or four games did probably make their way into the playoffs.
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And then once you get into the second or third rounds, those poignant game winners probably don't have the benefit of the doubt at that point because most of way that that will matter anymore.
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Most of the where there will will matter at that.
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I only so I don't think so.
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The World Cup format that you mentioned, I thought and you didn't really explain it.
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It was kind of just like the way you did with soccer.
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The top two people, the advance they would have after I thought that was a pretty unique idea.
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I don't think you're basically you're basically just eliminated in the first round of the playoffs by doing the group stages, because when you eventually get the top two teams from each group is only gonna be eight teams left.
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And so you have basically just going straight to the quarterfinals than conference finals and then eventually, n b A finals.
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So by doing that, it's a fun format.
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It's it's super cool.
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I mean, think about you could have right now If you went by the seedings they have now, you could potentially have a group of death of Milwaukee Boston.
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Okay, see in Dallas break And he that's his.
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Milwaukee is gonna play those three teams.
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Granted, Milwaukee was still probably come out of that group as one of the top two teams.
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But it's not gonna be a cakewalk, you know? So I think that be something that'd be pretty cool to see.
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I'm on an N b. A.
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Level and one way you could do is because you never have to worry about travel.
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So I mean, if there was get away with it, would be.
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And that's why I like if we ever got back to, like, just doing the one through 16 seedings and just decided to do it that way and not really care about, like, conferences like this would be the time to do it.
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And as faras everybody talking about Asterix and whatnot like I don't I'm not even like you play with a little you with.
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Yeah, I agree with you, man.
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Like that. I don't think there's gonna be an ass trick for any champion.
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Like, if anything, it's gonna be harder now to win a championship.
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You just took three months off in the middle of a basketball season.
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Whoever comes out of this now, you're gonna win at a neutral court.
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If you ever wins, this is gonna be I believe, like the ultimate champion.
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You know what I mean? So I wouldn't go that far, but I mean, it's just it's different, right? Like so I don't I don't think that it makes you any less like unless we see you.
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Like you said, Like like New Orleans.
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Like steamrolls their way into the MBA.
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Five out of Portland.
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Damian Lillard drops 50 gave engines goes crazy like you mean thes teams have superstars are capable of doing some damage like you, Just you never know.
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But I think it's gonna be pretty realistically the same.
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I think the top four teams or top five teams in my head are probably going to end up finding their way.
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And so the the Western Conference or Eastern Conference finals one way or another, like my final Final Four, if you do a final, the sweet, the Sweet 16 scenario, as I like to call it, and I think that's a cool scenario, and that's been talked about for, ah, long time.
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You know, in the end they want to do that.
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And a big reason why they're bringing up now is because, like you said Steve, it's the perfect case scenario where all teams air in one location.
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You don't worry about travel because one of the NBA's biggest things in the past was in the first round.
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Syria's you have a team like Miami who's all the way in South Florida, have to go all the way to the West Coast and play Portland in the first round.
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Siri's you know, and I love the N c a torment.
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And a lot of people love the torment if we're gonna and they're gonna play these these games at the wild world of sports down in Disney World, if you can have multiple games going on at one time and without a month and you can put it on different stations, you know? And you know what I'm saying? Like the chaos like I mean, who needs I don't need fans at that point.
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Like, you know, you got you got you got three or four games going on at one time, like you can make that work.
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That will be a lot of fun because they have multiple J have multiple gyms.
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They're to do that.
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I just think ratings wise, that wouldn't work.
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Because you want all eyes on one game.
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You really do one game at a time.
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All eyes were gonna be on one game.
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You are saying I mean yes and no, I mean, I'm door.
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Everybody will be flipping around like crazy, though.
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Oh, if there's multiple game at this multiple gas.
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Yeah, obviously everybody believe flipping back and forth If you only put one game on the time you're gonna have more viewers on.
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One single gave up my idea.
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Yeah, but my ideas, if they're they're probably gonna be trying to pump out as many games as possible, because if there I don't know how many courts they're gonna have at the time and how many games are gonna have to try have running, but they're going to need them.
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They will get a lot of games in a short amount of time.
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I'm assuming, because from what I was reading, they were trying to finish this up in a month, right to Morrow.
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Just about two months.
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I mean, I think they wanted t a month and 1/2 about 22 months.
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They wanted to get done by October 1st.
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So it's a theory like, you know, so I mean, you gotta be.
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You gotta be pumping out Siri's and like, like, a week we can have.
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You can't let a longer than that.
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So and that, like, brings me to the next point Lake.
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I think if you do playoff games, I mean, I'm sorry, playing games with ease or pra um, build up game scrimmages or whatever you want to call them regular season games.
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How long do you do that? Before you start the playoffs, you can only do it for, like maybe a couple weeks.
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You know, I mean, unless you're doing something every day because syriza if we know normally the playoffs start middle of April and they go all the way to the end of June.
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That's 2.
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5 months like they don't have that time.
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They don't have 2.5 way.
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But what we know about the way they do their scheduling, though, like there's sometimes two or three days in between games at some point.
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Yeah, which is not which is not gonna happen.
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They're not gonna have that.
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Everybody's going to have one spot.
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There's not gonna be any traveling.
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There's not gonna be any moving around.
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And you know when everybody is probably gonna be focused in the the same gym.
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So, yeah, there's a few things like I said, like we talked about this before.
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But then being needs to have a few things in place and make sure everything's in place, you know, they need to make sure that Number one, it's whatever scenario they choose is the safest scenario with everything that's going on.
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And I think the 30 teams scenario is probably the least safest scenario because it just brings more people into that bubble that they're talking about.
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There's more risk of contamination and spread of germs and everything.
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Number two, you need to make sure you that test on lock down.
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They haven't said how they're gonna test or if that's gonna be like before every game.
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But we need to make sure we don't have another Rudy go bare situation where if somebody tests positive the next day, the whole season is canceled again because the amount of work that is taken to get this season back together, I'm sure the MBA just doesn't want it all.
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And just because of one test, we're gonna make sure they got all that, um, you know, settled.
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And then another thing.
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I don't I don't think they want to have their top teams being any kind of disadvantage.
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Like if you go that 16 team scenario where you cross conference have cross conference games, you have Milwaukee A.
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Like I've seen the bracket.
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I'm sure you've seen it to Steve, where you have Milwaukee on one side of the bracket, where in the first round they play the magic, you know they kill the magic in the second round, You gotta play the heat or the thunder, which is not that he beat them twice already this year, and the next round, you would probably play the Clippers or the Celtics, which is not easy.
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And that eventually the Lakers, whereas the two seed Lakers on the other side of the bracket have, you know, the Rockets and the Nets and the Nuggets and it's a cakewalk on outside the Raptors.
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So, like if you do that scenario, the Bucks, who should be the overall number one seed, are getting the short end of the stick.
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In my opinion, I mean, it's a different kind of year, though it is a different kind of year.
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But I feel like I feel to give you doing that to that team.
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You know what your championship like, you know, just go win it.
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But I believe if you do that, you do it.
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If you're a Western Conference side of it, you've always said, like while the Eastern Conference is such a cakewalk every year, like so, like you know what's mix it up like, Why you gonna complain? That has been, except for this year, right? This passion, you could argue the East has been better than the West.
00:15:21
No, no, from top to bottom.
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Come on, you don't think so? You could argue it.
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It's not as strong as it was before LeBron and Co.
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I went back to the Western Conference like, How could you even think that? So because you have LeBron, you have the Lakers, Bronner's Dominy, the Eastern Conference.
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Like for the last decade for the best team in the league.
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The best team in the league is in the East.
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I'm just talking about they just look at the records will get record wise because they're concerned in the East because there's nobody in the East.
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I mean, the Raptors air almost 50 wins the Celtics almost 50 wins like this to the Heat.
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They're almost with the kind of person that shows you how soft the Eastern Conference is, though, because the Raptors, without Kawai Leonard, who won the championship last year, are still doing really good, are still doing really good.
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They're good without Kwan.
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There a nice team there What would you think? They're gonna win a championship, but they're not terrible.
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Hey, what did the Bulls do when Michael retired the first year they went? They want 57.
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Game 55.
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They were a nice team, right? And then what happened? They couldn't win championship, but they were good.
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There are better than the That's my boy.
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Like that sedative, they regulate their regular season. Good.
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And that's what we're talking about right now.
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They've only played 65 games, I know, but that the way we all know the Giants air in the Western Conference when it comes down to it, that's just happened. My opinion.
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But if you if you do, the ship that we're talking about, like the Western Conference is probably like, yeah, let me get some of those Eastern Conference teams like we rather deal with that.
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The only one that's gonna really wide about it is the Eastern Conference, because or Milwaukee.
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I just think if you do that to a team like no, if you do that to a team like the Bucks, it means like the 65 games that they played is all for nothing.
00:17:07
Not necessarily.
00:17:08
I mean, for they have the number one, the number one seed, to have the best record in the NBA.
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And then you get stuck on the hardest side of the bracket.
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The only thing that they can complain about is the fact that they don't have home court advantage.
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That's the news, Just advantage for everybody.
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Everybody's at the same disadvantage I get that.
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I realize that this name disadvantage is an even playing field.
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Felt expand like you should be.
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And I'm happy about.
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Also in those games.
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Seven scenarios like those don't matter anymore.
00:17:35
No, I mean, as a Celtics fan were on, that seems out of the bracket.
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We got Philly in the first round.
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We got Clippers in the second round.
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Love it, embrace it, embrace it, right? But I thought that the Celtics have been competitive against the Western Conference.
00:17:47
You look at the record against Western Conference teams.
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They beat the Clippers. They beat the Lakers.
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They could only meet all these top teams.
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The one team.
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They have trouble with this. For some reason, it's ****ing Houston.
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They can't beat Houston, so I don't want to see them.
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But I haven't go against the Lakers or the Clippers.
00:18:01
Well, see, that's just what it is.
00:18:04
So we talked about the scenarios, and it's too bad we didn't have Keith on tonight because he actually knows the landscape of wild world sports so well because he will.
00:18:13
He worked in Orlando for, I think, said, like, 20 years, 20 years he worked there, which is crazy knows that plays in and out of the back of his hand.
00:18:20
So it would've been nice to have a mom, but he would.
00:18:21
He would have been able to tell us about the landscape of not only the Janie's IAM, but like the set up.
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We actually talked about the accommodations, and there was a funny thing I ever listened to on his last interview, where agents were actually complaining about, like some of the teams getting worse accommodations than other teams.
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And I just thought that that was just so, so, so sad, like, Yeah, I just I don't see how you can complain, especially during these times, like you're going to get a hotel like so you're not staying at the Ritz Carlton.
00:18:51
You know we apologize.
00:18:52
It's Disney World, but this the world if you if anybody's we're watching this or listen, has never stayed there.
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They got some pretty nice resorts outside of their discounted resorts.
00:19:01
I mean, that's some pretty nice rooms there, and I can't express this enough like like the U F.
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C.
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Has clearly so.
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The first event, they they had a tested positive fighter.
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They immediately set him home that the event went on and Dana, wait said it like If you want these events toe work, you have to invest a lot of money into it and when he says you have to invest a lot of money into it means you have to invest a lot of money into testing.
00:19:25
But he proved that even with a positive test, the show could still go on.
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And you could still maintain what you need to dio.
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And that's going to be the big test of what the's pro sports are willing to go through.
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Because I can't be one test being the end, all for everything.
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And I know that's what's going on with all these major sporting leagues is like they're just waiting from one lead to say all right, we're going to go first and then we're gonna see how it works out.
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And I know that it looks like basketball is gonna be the 1st 1 to do it.
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And and you're talking about this bubble and everybody with the accommodations and and you're saying the less people the better and that's obviously understandable.
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But Florida's opened their doors and everything and a little So we have to understand that, like for pro athletes, they're going to get around the clock testing.
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They're going to be there, gonna have around the clock care with doctors and physicians.
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And I have to assume that they're not going to be able to stray away from E.
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No, that's why they call it a bubble was gonna be limitation.
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Could be what it awesome bubble, though your Disney world and they're reopening the I mean this talks about them re opening the park soon.
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Like I mean, I get it.
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You probably don't want to go out and maybe not nothing.
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I gotta go to the park.
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And exactly I'm just saying, like even at the resorts is so much to do give you just chillin like there could be worse places to have a bubble like I just can't if they if they're really willing to go into this and then all of a sudden there's one positive case and they're willing to just stop it over that, then they shouldn't be doing this like I just can't you know.
00:21:09
So I have to.
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I have to see that they're going in with their eyes wide open and assuming that something could happen and then they have to quarantine there.
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They have to do it everything you dio.
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But I mean, I'm crazy thing.
00:21:23
That's assume crazy thing that you have to worry about, too.
00:21:25
Like you always worry about injuries and stuff yet, But you have guys that can be LeBron James.
00:21:29
What a fecal! What if he's asymptomatic is not even showing any signs, But, yeah, he's still test positive.
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Like Lakers here.
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He's got a quarantine for two weeks.
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Two weeks is the minimal.
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Like you're done.
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Lakers have done as this a crazy scenario that crazy things that there that could potentially.
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But I mean, I'm assuming those guys we're gonna get tested every day.
00:21:49
Yeah, Oh, yeah, they have to or before every game, at least.
00:21:53
Right? So that's what makes the most sense in orderto keep this thing going, you know? And I know healthcare professionals right now because I like that they have 24 hour testing results.
00:22:03
So I know I know that they're available.
00:22:05
And I know what the UFC that they were doing testing every two days prior to the events.
00:22:09
I know they had a Wednesday test and then they had a Friday test before way.
00:22:13
And then what? Not So that's just the way it's gonna be like, That's it.
00:22:16
That's the way they're gonna have to do with it.
00:22:18
And so we'll see about that.
00:22:22
That's basically what's going on.
00:22:23
And I see with baseball, baseball on the players and the owners is just so ridiculous Watching millionaires argue of billionaires.
00:22:32
Yeah, and then I was gonna win that battle.
00:22:35
And then seeing us like regular Joe is like going to work every day, making make it no money and it's heart and it's hard to comprehend.
00:22:42
Like like man like I hate you guys kind of a little bit like, you know, like because you complained about, like, put living our shoes.
00:22:51
You know, I'm saying we're literally grinding every day.
00:22:54
I get the concerns and trust me like we all have the concerns, like some of us don't have a choice.
00:23:01
And clearly you guys have the means to have a choice, and that's great.
00:23:05
But to think that you guys won't be properly taken care of and be put in the best situation to be safe.
00:23:12
Yeah, it just blows my mind like, you know, so like And I'm assuming that, like I said, like, if they're going to do this and they're going to put themselves in these accommodations at the at this Ah, at the Disney Wild World of Sports like it's gonna work.
00:23:26
Yeah.
00:23:27
I mean, the NBA's best asset is their players.
00:23:28
They're not gonna make you know.
00:23:30
They're gonna make sure that their players are well taken care of it, not in any harm.
00:23:32
But also we're not going to worry about that.
00:23:35
So it does look like we might get some more news this week, though Thursday they are having a vote on that competition format, so we should know within the next few days what that is gonna be.
00:23:45
And then the last few weeks, we've kind of been getting a new little tidbit on the season and get more clarity on it every every week.
00:23:51
So, uh, next week or the week after, I mean, we should be learning as far as when players or teams are gonna report to Orlando and start that you get to that bubble and start these games and and all these formats that that are going on.
00:24:04
So, um, we should we should know soon on.
00:24:07
And we're very excited about that.
00:24:08
Man Can't wait to get back to basketball.
00:24:10
We're waiting for effort.
00:24:12
Wait for something exactly.
00:24:15
Anybody think ratings wise, it's gonna do unbelievable, no matter what I mean, you look you had the last dance.
00:24:19
I went crazy.
00:24:20
Then you had a golf match.
00:24:21
That was that was the highest rated golf match there is out and it was just four superstars playing.
00:24:27
People just die.
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And you've got people who have never watched like German league soccer that watching Germany exactly right now.
00:24:32
So people are just dying, awash support.
00:24:34
So regardless of what the MBA does, TV wise that we talked about one core or they have two games going on at the same time, it's going to kill ratings wise So it'll do really, really well.
00:24:43
Basically, it's basically anything that you don't know an end result to.
00:24:48
Yeah, good.
00:24:49
Well, that will have good ratings.
00:24:50
Thes you could argue it's even gonna be more of a draw to, like the just the average MBA fans with the new format and everything that they're thinking about doing, like it could just bring more eyes to the tables.
00:25:00
People that normally might not watch basketball are not going to be watching it.
00:25:05
Yeah, that's true.
00:25:08
And we and we talked about it.
00:25:09
I mean, like, this will be a good experimentally.
00:25:11
They're going toe run this to the end of August, early on mid September, and then they won't have the restart until they're saying probably Christmas time.
00:25:21
And I know we talked about this a while ago with hopefully, maybe MBA actually restarting their league continuously around Christmas Day would not being able to have to compete against other pro sporting's like the end of the season.
00:25:35
The hockey, the end of the end of the Major league Baseball, obviously doesn't look like Major League baseball is going to compete with anything because I don't think Major League Baseball's you did I know your baseball game? Baseball sucks, bro.
00:25:46
It's not.
00:25:47
There is not America's pastime anymore.
00:25:49
I apologize.
00:25:50
That's Does it suck because the game itself does.
00:25:53
That suck because of the players and the owners of the game is to me like So you're a diehard baseball fan as well, Like, you know, the ins and outs of the game.
00:26:00
For me, I'm an average family.
00:26:02
I'm a Red Sox fan like I watch the socks.
00:26:04
But I obviously won't watch all 162 games and I'll tune into the playoffs.
00:26:08
You know, when they make the playoffs.
00:26:09
For me, the game's just too long.
00:26:11
A lot of these games, that's the problem, that they don't want to evolve.
00:26:15
They don't want to change.
00:26:16
Like every sport has made changes to their game.
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Teoh find ways to be more inventive to make the game more progressive and paste.
00:26:26
Ball doesn't want to do that and it's part of the players full and it's part of the owner small and for whatever reason they don't want to change anything.
00:26:33
They just want more money, more revenue and this is the first time that you're seeing over belly in and some backlash happen and it's going with the players and it's going with the owners.
00:26:46
But now you're seeing the fans like, look back from afar, being like, you know what? We don't really We don't really care for you guys now and it's very bad PR.
00:26:55
It's very, very bad PR and you and I'm seeing votes, probably people saying that like, honestly, we don't really care.
00:27:01
We don't watch baseball this year and that's crazy, agreed.
00:27:04
I agree with those people and that and that, and that's really crazy to me because, I mean, there's one thing that I used to always say.
00:27:11
It was like I could always wake up next day and there was always a Red Sox game on and they lose.
00:27:16
They'd win.
00:27:17
And then tomorrow's a new day and the Red Sox will be back on the Red Sox.
00:27:20
Always there, always there during the summer, and that would be a one day because there's nothing else on during the summer.
00:27:27
You know, you got the N B A finals until June, and then after that it was like, but that's why I was saying like, it be nice to have the MBA started Christmas Day, and that way you have the MBA push into July and then maybe early part of August.
00:27:40
So you have that push and it would be bad for baseball.
00:27:44
But the MBA would trumpet it would be good for the MBA.
00:27:47
Yeah, because, I mean, let's face it, the N b A.
00:27:50
I think there's a bigger global sport, but the NFL absolutely rules this country, and so to compete with the NFL ratings wise is just a death sentence.
00:28:00
You know what I mean? They just can't do it.
00:28:02
It's stuff that's is one day.
00:28:03
That's that's four football and everybody tunes in and they got the whole fantasy football thing now, and people are watching every game there.
00:28:10
Just all eyes are glued to the NFL.
00:28:13
So have your season star on Christmas Day? Um, where is a huge day? Christmas Day in the N.
00:28:18
B.
00:28:19
A.
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Is like Thanksgiving for football.
00:28:21
There's five marquee games on you always have the best match ups, and at that time at the end of December, you only have about five weeks left in the NFL season.
00:28:28
So it's only five weeks of the season you gotta compete with, as opposed to, basically a supposed to the whole season.
00:28:34
Um, so I think I would be better for the MBA.
00:28:36
You'd still be able to get all 82 games in.
00:28:39
Like you said, you would just finish a little bit later.
00:28:41
You'd would push everything back.
00:28:42
Trade deadline. We get pushed back.
00:28:44
All Star Game pushback, um, playoffs, pushback and eventually finals would be pushed back to probably July or so.
00:28:50
Maybe every August, which you said the only other thing on time is baseball, and they're not gonna have any.
00:28:56
And you and you even see it.
00:28:57
And you even see it during the football season.
00:28:59
Like the MBA caters to the NFL schedule like Super Bowl Sunday like you're seeing matinee basketball games just so they can get away from that and a playoff games.
00:29:08
Matinee basketball games like they're always trying to find ways to fit N B A games in so they don't get lambasted by a NFL Games that in prime time, because they know no one's going to watch them.
00:29:19
So rather than deal with that, just find a better time of year to just run it.
00:29:23
You know, you know, it is created to, like even the sucky games, like the Thursday night games that everybody complains about in the NFL, where you have, like the Jaguar.
00:29:30
First of the Italians are doing better numbers in the TNT n B A games on Thursday nights, and it's just it's the part of it, Mark.
00:29:37
I mean, you got 82 regular season basketball games, so I mean, no one's really cares about the first unless you're a die hard fan like I mean, I do.
00:29:45
But I believe pass, man, I'm watching everything True, but I mean the first quarter of the season.
00:29:49
Like, you know, like people are, you know, like, kind of sleepwalking through it today.
00:29:54
And it would give more shine to college basketball to like It opens up that sport a little bit more.
00:29:59
And, you know, the first quarter of an M B A season with 82 games obviously doesn't mean as much as like an NFL season where every game matters in a 16 game season.
00:30:07
Absolutely more more Isar include to that, you know.
00:30:10
And the NHL also is going on around that time too, so I mean yes, Yep, for sure.
00:30:15
So, you know, I think like you said, man, and I think we're on the same page with this.
00:30:18
When I think the MBA this year is going to do that, I think they'll use it that as, um, a learning point and we'll see how it does.
00:30:26
And I think going forward, they This could be kind of a stepping stone to continue to do that for future seasons.
00:30:31
I agree.
00:30:32
So one last thing we want to get into guys before we before we head out is, um we are, um, obviously a couple of Celtics fans.
00:30:40
And there was some news recently in the MBA on Celtics front with Jayson Tatum and his contract, and they said that it was reported that this other is gonna offer Jayson Tatum the Max Ah contract at the end of this season.
00:30:55
Surprise, surprise.
00:30:57
Not a shock to anybody.
00:30:58
He's definitely earned it.
00:31:00
But with that happening in the Celtics offering him the max, they basically have said that they're going to go to battle with Kemba Walker, Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum.
00:31:09
Those your three guys Jalen, get his contract.
00:31:11
He's locked up long term cameras got his Maxie's locked up long term.
00:31:14
And now you have Jayson Tatum.
00:31:15
So it looks like the salt is gonna ride with those three guys going forward.
00:31:20
What do you think, Steve? Is there kind of ceiling? Do you see Jason Tatum eventual eating the Celtics to a title? Do you think that these three guys Tatum, Brown and Campbell could eventually lead them to its idol? Or you think that just kind of be top of the line Eastern Conference for years to come? Well, I think it depends on where they're what they're gonna add to it.
00:31:40
I think this is bad news for Gordon Hayward.
00:31:42
I don't see Gordon a were returning.
00:31:44
He doesn't Really? Yeah, he doesn't really fit.
00:31:46
Now.
00:31:47
It it doesn't fit.
00:31:48
And I think he I think it doesn't make sense for him now.
00:31:50
I think moneywise like I can't see him unless he's willing to restructure.
00:31:56
I can't.
00:31:57
I think he would be.
00:31:59
I think him and brand have like, this thing.
00:32:01
You know what I mean? Like he would come back, he would come back to Boston for less for sure.
00:32:05
I don't know, but I mean, yeah, I mean, you're talking about two guys that you drafted, The top three? Um, that are, what, 2023 22 23 1 22 doesn't seem just turned 22 this year.
00:32:21
Yeah, I mean, so I mean, I mean, their prime years are ahead of them in there, and they're next in their next contract, you know? So, yeah, I mean, it's like it's to me.
00:32:29
It's like, Look what they're doing already.
00:32:31
Like Jay LeBron is averaging 20 points a game.
00:32:33
Tatum was his first season as an All Star.
00:32:36
Like these guys are just moving up and getting better and better every single year.
00:32:40
It be crazy to think that they're not going to just get better from here on out.
00:32:44
There's no evidence that shows that they're gonna decline and not be what everybody expects them to be.
00:32:50
So I mean, the skill set that Jayson Tatum has.
00:32:53
If he continues to get better, there's no reason to believe that he wouldn't be able to eventually the Celtics to at least one championship.
00:33:00
They got to keep markets smart with them.
00:33:02
They gotta think, just gonna keep fighting some good core you to keep the core guys, You gotta You gotta find some good, moldy pieces that work with those guys and just understand that those are the guys that are going to carry them where they need to go.
00:33:14
Hopefully, Kemba stays healthy.
00:33:15
Obviously we starts, um, leak injuries.
00:33:18
And and that was another thing.
00:33:19
I mean, obviously, I I used to come at Campbell with his his knee injury, but if there was anybody that needed the rest and that could be coming, that this could be good news for the Celtics if they come into this playoff format.
00:33:31
It was came about because he was hobbling going into the big time branch of the of the season.
00:33:38
And I had no faith that he was going to be on the whole.
00:33:41
The whole team was really Gordon got banged up, break before they were.
00:33:44
They quit.
00:33:45
And then Jaylen Brown was laboring with a hamstring injury.
00:33:48
So I mean, not only the Celtics, with all these teams, you're going to get everybody back at 100% which is going to be hugest.
00:33:54
It's probably one of the best playoffs we'll see in a long time.
00:33:56
Yeah, so I mean, I mean, Yeah, I like it.
00:34:00
That's exactly what you envisioned.
00:34:04
The Nets policing of the trade.
00:34:07
That's exactly what you wanted when you when you got those picks that you're gonna be able to get cornerstones for the next regime.
00:34:14
And with Jalen and Jason, that's exactly what you got.
00:34:17
So that definitely was a home run for Danny.
00:34:19
And hopefully they can continue to add the necessary pieces and not continue to send them up to Maine because we don't want mean to continue to be a juggernaut.
00:34:27
Mark.
00:34:28
We want the Boston Celtics come through the main red claws.
00:34:31
The best you could send them over season.
00:34:33
They won some championships, probably.
00:34:36
I mean, the disporting on the show Taco Fall is, I believe every year the Celtics have nine draft picks and seven of them go on to the main red cause.
00:34:44
So it makes sense.
00:34:45
Why means a juggernaut? Yeah, so that's just what it is.
00:34:50
But we didn't talk about being in the show.
00:34:51
I don't want to end on it, but there was a space launch the other day.
00:34:55
I know there's a lot of Syria.
00:34:56
Let's get into it.
00:34:57
So there was a space to launch.
00:34:59
I'm sure a lot of people know you on mosque.
00:35:01
Did a privatised mission to space.
00:35:04
Ah was a first privatised mission, Um, by something not done by NASA.
00:35:11
And it was actually really cool.
00:35:13
They actually had their own walk up music, and they did a thunderstruck and made me think of what would be my walk up music when I want to go up to space and I thought about yours and go ahead.
00:35:26
You can You can give me what your walk up music would be.
00:35:29
Well, in honor of the last dance in my love for Michael Jordan, it would be the Bulls intro.
00:35:35
And that's exactly what I thought you were going to say.
00:35:38
Yeah, I know.
00:35:39
And my am I was gonna be Tell me that doesn't fit.
00:35:42
Perfect. Yeah.
00:35:43
Come on.
00:35:44
I was gonna I would've picked Ted Nugent's stranglehold.
00:35:46
I just think, you know, like, I just know that that fits.
00:35:50
You think that was submitted to the great? It was not going to be fired up, you know, Like I said, it was thunderstruck.
00:35:56
They walked up to thunderstruck thunderstruck snot badly.
00:35:58
If that doesn't get you fired up.
00:36:00
Listen, I thought these news were ready.
00:36:02
I did not.
00:36:03
All they needed was like a laser show, but went on, I would've been You can't knock the song.
00:36:08
You can't knock the song.
00:36:09
Choice for sure didn't even see it coming.
00:36:11
But I know I was fired up for him.
00:36:12
I was like, This is going to work And it was weird.
00:36:14
It was like the day before, like they had a huge malfunction.
00:36:18
And I was like, Oh, they're in deep trouble And then they actually had a thunderstorm that was like hovering over them for, like, hours.
00:36:24
And I don't think the lunch was gonna happen.
00:36:25
And and And the thing about the space launches, now you have these cameras and feeds that go like 16 17 minutes after they actually launched.
00:36:36
So, like, instead of, like, the old school thing where they, like, look up into the sky and it seems like you can't see him anymore.
00:36:41
It's over, like you get to watch these guys for a really long time, and then that and that space launches will never not be cool.
00:36:47
Ever.
00:36:48
And I started listening to, like alone.
00:36:50
Yeah, listen to a lot of astronaut like, uh, I think it was like I am podcasts and that they had lied ups and they were talking about, like, things that they did on the moon.
00:37:01
And that got me thinking, like, what would be the first thing you would do on the moon that would be memorable to you? I would tell me two things and we talked about this.
00:37:10
Appreciate what? Two things I would I would hit a golf.
00:37:12
I would try to hit a golf ball.
00:37:13
Probably the longest drive I've ever hit.
00:37:15
And I probably tried to shoot a basketball, which would probably almost impossible.
00:37:19
Yeah, I mean, they talked about like, one of them said that you liked did, like, try to do the longest jump anyway.
00:37:25
Ended on his back.
00:37:26
I forget who it waas.
00:37:27
But when he went in and I was back like he broke one of his like he broke like a piece of the tank and was killed.
00:37:33
It's dangerous.
00:37:34
You don't want to do that.
00:37:35
Oh, yeah, But I mean, I would just I would have the longest digger ever.
00:37:39
You know, throw that like, you know, that would be my thing.
00:37:43
is no longer that Is somebody gonna You just gonna soft toss it to yourself? Is somebody gonna pitch it to you? I mean, I just throw it up, swing out, and somebody would just pick it up and they would just kind of glide or you could even just like I could just I could just hold it there.
00:37:59
Let go.
00:38:00
And then you just swing.
00:38:01
Yeah, to be something that I don't even wanna work.
00:38:04
I would have to hit it, but it was just you would be screaming in slow motion.
00:38:07
You want to be able to, like, even all the way the blue that we did.
00:38:12
So you don't have that kind of You don't have that power.
00:38:16
Oh, yes.
00:38:17
You don't have warning track power.
00:38:20
That's warning track.
00:38:21
Ludo's warning track will be.
00:38:23
How far is **** from the moon? Like do you know? I mean, it's the furthest planet away, so I mean, that's that girl for you're not getting a plateau.
00:38:35
You will see.
00:38:37
Would you Would you ever If you get a free trip to the moon, would you take it? I'd say I'd probably say I would want to, but I'd probably say nobody would be nervous as **** I would have.
00:38:49
No, like, I have no idea what's going on or the risk that you know, I'm saying, like there'd be so many risks and that you're talking about a guy jumping and almost landing on his back and dying like Lord be lost up there he was You got a family to take care of.
00:39:04
You know, I'm saying so My my thing was like, I always said, no because of what you're saying.
00:39:08
There's so many risk involved.
00:39:10
But then I, like, thought about like So what if you were, like, 65.
00:39:13
Would you then take the free trip to the moon at that point all like like nearing the end of my days? I have probably at that point.
00:39:23
Yeah, but at that point, my family, my three kids there adults they've confirmed for themselves take care of themselves.
00:39:28
They don't need daddy at that point.
00:39:29
You know, I'm saying so.
00:39:31
I mean, honestly, I would still want to be there for them.
00:39:32
I'm not saying it's okay if something happened to me, but, you know, it's obviously easier on them to be able to defend for themselves, you know? So So my thing about like, going smoothly, It's just like the silence would just be like crazy to me.
00:39:45
Like I know that they're doing a lot of stuff up in the space station and like, a lot of things were going around about, like, you know, But there's only so many things you can do.
00:39:53
Like the boredom would probably like kill you.
00:39:54
But if there was one time that you would want to get away from Earth right now like this would definitely be the time.
00:40:00
Oh, yeah, for sure.
00:40:01
What do you missing out? Yeah, I hear like you Corona virus.
00:40:06
I think I think you're probably safer up at the moon right now that you probably are down here.
00:40:10
Yeah, it's crazy.
00:40:13
So that about wraps it up, guys.
00:40:16
Raises to the end of Episode 14.
00:40:18
So hopeful you guys are just as excited as us for the NBA's return.
00:40:23
Looks like we're going to get some more clarity within the coming weeks of ah, when this situation and when the end is going to be back in the bubble in Orlando at the Wide World of Sports and we'll bring it to you here on Hoop Dreams with future episodes will let you know everything that's going on.
00:40:38
So stay tuned.
00:40:40
We'll be back next week with another episode.
00:40:42
I'm Until then, Peace guys chow.

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00:00:00
Code 14.
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As always, I'm joined by my co host, Steve Lewis.
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What's going on, Steve? I made it.
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I know you had some trouble getting out of work and everything like that, but you made it.
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I'm glad you could join that way.
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I don't have to do in the podcast by myself.
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I get It was awful.
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Ah, so I just want to start out by saying quickly, um, we did have an interview schedule with Keith Smith, a writer, and be a writer for Yahoo Sports and Celtics Blawg.
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And, um, he had to, ah, back out.
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He just wasn't really feeling it right now with everything that's going on and we hear, you know, I hope Jews, we completely understand, You know, in the grand scheme of things, this podcast really isn't what's most important with all the things that are going on in the world right now.
00:00:44
So we completely understand that respect his decision, and we hope to have him on the show of the future episodes for sure.
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So, um, just a shout out to him.
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And like I said, we look forward to having one in future episodes.
00:00:57
So today's episode we're going to start out by.
00:00:59
I want to get into the MBA s.
00:01:02
So we have a little bit more clarity on the season and what the MBA is gonna look like when it returns.
00:01:09
Last episode we talked about, you know, start dates and things of that nature.
00:01:13
And, you know, I have predicted the 25th.
00:01:15
It turns out that B is coming back the 31st of July and, ah, off to buy just a week.
00:01:21
But they have settled on a 31st July 31st return date, and they have put forth four competition competition scenarios in which to return to play.
00:01:30
So, uh, those competitions scenarios are number one ah, 16 teams coming back, seated normally east, eight seeds in West, eight seeds.
00:01:41
Or you could have the 16 teams receded and having cross conference matches.
00:01:47
The second scenario would be for 20 teams to go to Florida and to have a World Cup style group stage format, we would have four groups and the third scenario would be 22 teams where you would have a plane tournament for the final seeds from the throughout the bottom teams and then the final scenario is all 30 teams going to the bubble in Orlando and having them play some regular season games about up to 75.
00:02:15
So that be 10 more regular season games, playing out for seeding and then eventually starting the playoffs.
00:02:21
Eso Steve, I'll start by asking.
00:02:22
You mean what's your favorite scenario, if at all.
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You like any, um and what do you think the N B A might want to do or what would be the best thing for them to do? Going forward? I do like the 22 teams scenario.
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I think that it's important to give some of those bottom teams a chance to be able to play their way into the playoffs.
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If there's any chance, I think that it's a pretty much gives it.
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Za about more of the younger talent gives them a chance to be able to put them on the stage in the playoffs.
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I think that it's very important that they want those ions and the job Marantz to be a little bit more showcased and I know you've heard Ah Damilola, Lillard Express Ah, his want to be able to wait.
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Why show up if he's not gonna be able to be able have thought that a play for doesn't make sense to put himself in harm's way.
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My question to you about the If they just did the 16 team format, what's the playoff series is going to be like? Would it be Standard seven game seven games? Adam Silver has said from Day one that he's wanted seven game playoff series for the playoffs to make it as realistic as possible on one of the biggest reasons you said for that is he didn't want to have the eventual MBA champion that have a gastric next to his name because a lot of people are saying that dependent whoever wins this championship, that could be an ass trick next to it with a different format and playing at a neutral core and things like that.
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So he wanted to try to make it as normal or as real as a regular NB season would be.
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Now that would that be the same for the 22 teams scenario like countless.
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Once you get into the playoffs, it would be the same.
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So you the 22 teams scenario you'd have playing tournament, which would be a single elimination tournament to get into the bottom seating, you play for the bottom seeds and then once the bottom seeds or sat with all 16 seeds or set, then that's when the seven game series would start.
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So either way, they would still be seven games.
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Siri exactly eventually, once, once a quote unquote playoffs hit because some of the part might be warm up games, playing games, regular season games.
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Those are all going to be just one game and then once the playoffs start, is when you get into the seven game series.
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I know the big snag that they had was it was with the TV deals, and I know they're not gonna be able to make any money from attendance.
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This this coming playoffs was that they wanted all the teams to be able to play some sort of regular season because there was a certain amount of games that they need each team to be able to play, to be able to hit ah benchmark for TV contracts to make certain amounts of money.
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I believe it was like 69 or 71 games and I think that's why they wanted to get some of those teams.
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Or if not all those teams like you're saying like the bottom feeders that have no chance to even make the player in some sort of regular season formats.
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Obviously, it doesn't make sense that bring those teams back because they realistically have no chance.
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If you want to give those top seeds, though, a chance to be able to get warmed up, though, I think it's kind of necessary, though, to get them some sort of reps prior to a pregnancy.
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E, I think would be unfair to give warmups to ah play in scenario because that kind of good little bit of a jump start prior to them getting into things thing they said that they don't want to happen is like they don't want the up proceeded teams with teams that have busted there ******* season to get a higher seed, and then they eventually have to play a team.
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Let's just say the New Orleans pelicans, for example, no.
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The New Orleans Pelicans playing a plan tournament and they get hot and they won 34 games in a row to get into the playoffs.
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Now they gotta play a team or higher seeded team pleasantly and played a game.
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Yet you know that's still going to be rusty cans gonna be chemistry issues and things like that.
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You don't want that happen because that puts the top seed.
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That unfair advantage, especially at a neutral court.
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Don't have home court advantage.
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So you need these teams toe, have playing games or practice games.
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However, you want to look at it to make sure they're ready for competition because right away you can just throw him into the playoffs because it's not gonna be good basketball. It's gonna be sloppy.
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There's gonna be a higher risk of injury.
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These guys, like we have said in past, shows some of them working out.
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But some of them, like we talked about like Jason Tatum, hasn't picked up a basketball, you know, since the cool quarantine things started.
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So who knows what these guys have been doing? So they're gonna need time to get back into the swing of things and get ready to go to place in basketball.
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The one thing I will refute, though, and it kind of like trends me back like thinking of like college based tournaments like the where if they're probably going to be playing an accelerated tournament Foreman, Mr when they're going to claim back to back days, they're not gonna be spreading out like every other day games, are they? Yeah, you would think so, because now you would think so.
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Because you don't have to have you probably could do two games in a row or just have one day.
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You know, there's no Travis that you don't have to give two days for travel or anything like that, cause everybody's gonna be at the same location.
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I mean, then you have to compete with I mean, there's still other events.
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You have to get in, and the MBA eventually got to get the draft and eventually gonna get some league in free agency things like that.
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Adam Silver has always said to one of the biggest things is he doesn't wanna have to compete with the NFL.
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What's that starts in the NFL.
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If everything starts on time, is going to start the first couple weeks in September.
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So, um, they're battling a time as well, so I agree with you.
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I think that is something they'll do.
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They haven't come out and said it yet, but they'll have to have an accelerated schedule and, like you said, probably place him back to back games and things like that.
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Well, as long as the teams are getting a seven game series out of it and they are going to probably play back to back games, I think that that would still favor.
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It's the better teams in the long run, because I think they would get their legs under him after a little while.
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And I think that would probably be more of a detriment at some point to those teams that probably had to play three or four games did probably make their way into the playoffs.
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And then once you get into the second or third rounds, those poignant game winners probably don't have the benefit of the doubt at that point because most of way that that will matter anymore.
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Most of the where there will will matter at that.
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I only so I don't think so.
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The World Cup format that you mentioned, I thought and you didn't really explain it.
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It was kind of just like the way you did with soccer.
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The top two people, the advance they would have after I thought that was a pretty unique idea.
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I don't think you're basically you're basically just eliminated in the first round of the playoffs by doing the group stages, because when you eventually get the top two teams from each group is only gonna be eight teams left.
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And so you have basically just going straight to the quarterfinals than conference finals and then eventually, n b A finals.
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So by doing that, it's a fun format.
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It's it's super cool.
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I mean, think about you could have right now If you went by the seedings they have now, you could potentially have a group of death of Milwaukee Boston.
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Okay, see in Dallas break And he that's his.
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Milwaukee is gonna play those three teams.
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Granted, Milwaukee was still probably come out of that group as one of the top two teams.
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But it's not gonna be a cakewalk, you know? So I think that be something that'd be pretty cool to see.
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I'm on an N b. A.
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Level and one way you could do is because you never have to worry about travel.
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So I mean, if there was get away with it, would be.
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And that's why I like if we ever got back to, like, just doing the one through 16 seedings and just decided to do it that way and not really care about, like, conferences like this would be the time to do it.
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And as faras everybody talking about Asterix and whatnot like I don't I'm not even like you play with a little you with.
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Yeah, I agree with you, man.
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Like that. I don't think there's gonna be an ass trick for any champion.
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Like, if anything, it's gonna be harder now to win a championship.
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You just took three months off in the middle of a basketball season.
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Whoever comes out of this now, you're gonna win at a neutral court.
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If you ever wins, this is gonna be I believe, like the ultimate champion.
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You know what I mean? So I wouldn't go that far, but I mean, it's just it's different, right? Like so I don't I don't think that it makes you any less like unless we see you.
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Like you said, Like like New Orleans.
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Like steamrolls their way into the MBA.
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Five out of Portland.
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Damian Lillard drops 50 gave engines goes crazy like you mean thes teams have superstars are capable of doing some damage like you, Just you never know.
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But I think it's gonna be pretty realistically the same.
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I think the top four teams or top five teams in my head are probably going to end up finding their way.
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And so the the Western Conference or Eastern Conference finals one way or another, like my final Final Four, if you do a final, the sweet, the Sweet 16 scenario, as I like to call it, and I think that's a cool scenario, and that's been talked about for, ah, long time.
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You know, in the end they want to do that.
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And a big reason why they're bringing up now is because, like you said Steve, it's the perfect case scenario where all teams air in one location.
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You don't worry about travel because one of the NBA's biggest things in the past was in the first round.
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Syria's you have a team like Miami who's all the way in South Florida, have to go all the way to the West Coast and play Portland in the first round.
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Siri's you know, and I love the N c a torment.
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And a lot of people love the torment if we're gonna and they're gonna play these these games at the wild world of sports down in Disney World, if you can have multiple games going on at one time and without a month and you can put it on different stations, you know? And you know what I'm saying? Like the chaos like I mean, who needs I don't need fans at that point.
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Like, you know, you got you got you got three or four games going on at one time, like you can make that work.
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That will be a lot of fun because they have multiple J have multiple gyms.
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They're to do that.
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I just think ratings wise, that wouldn't work.
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Because you want all eyes on one game.
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You really do one game at a time.
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All eyes were gonna be on one game.
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You are saying I mean yes and no, I mean, I'm door.
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Everybody will be flipping around like crazy, though.
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Oh, if there's multiple game at this multiple gas.
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Yeah, obviously everybody believe flipping back and forth If you only put one game on the time you're gonna have more viewers on.
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One single gave up my idea.
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Yeah, but my ideas, if they're they're probably gonna be trying to pump out as many games as possible, because if there I don't know how many courts they're gonna have at the time and how many games are gonna have to try have running, but they're going to need them.
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They will get a lot of games in a short amount of time.
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I'm assuming, because from what I was reading, they were trying to finish this up in a month, right to Morrow.
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Just about two months.
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I mean, I think they wanted t a month and 1/2 about 22 months.
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They wanted to get done by October 1st.
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So it's a theory like, you know, so I mean, you gotta be.
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You gotta be pumping out Siri's and like, like, a week we can have.
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You can't let a longer than that.
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So and that, like, brings me to the next point Lake.
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I think if you do playoff games, I mean, I'm sorry, playing games with ease or pra um, build up game scrimmages or whatever you want to call them regular season games.
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How long do you do that? Before you start the playoffs, you can only do it for, like maybe a couple weeks.
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You know, I mean, unless you're doing something every day because syriza if we know normally the playoffs start middle of April and they go all the way to the end of June.
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That's 2.
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5 months like they don't have that time.
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They don't have 2.5 way.
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But what we know about the way they do their scheduling, though, like there's sometimes two or three days in between games at some point.
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Yeah, which is not which is not gonna happen.
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They're not gonna have that.
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Everybody's going to have one spot.
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There's not gonna be any traveling.
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There's not gonna be any moving around.
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And you know when everybody is probably gonna be focused in the the same gym.
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So, yeah, there's a few things like I said, like we talked about this before.
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But then being needs to have a few things in place and make sure everything's in place, you know, they need to make sure that Number one, it's whatever scenario they choose is the safest scenario with everything that's going on.
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And I think the 30 teams scenario is probably the least safest scenario because it just brings more people into that bubble that they're talking about.
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There's more risk of contamination and spread of germs and everything.
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Number two, you need to make sure you that test on lock down.
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They haven't said how they're gonna test or if that's gonna be like before every game.
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But we need to make sure we don't have another Rudy go bare situation where if somebody tests positive the next day, the whole season is canceled again because the amount of work that is taken to get this season back together, I'm sure the MBA just doesn't want it all.
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And just because of one test, we're gonna make sure they got all that, um, you know, settled.
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And then another thing.
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I don't I don't think they want to have their top teams being any kind of disadvantage.
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Like if you go that 16 team scenario where you cross conference have cross conference games, you have Milwaukee A.
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Like I've seen the bracket.
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I'm sure you've seen it to Steve, where you have Milwaukee on one side of the bracket, where in the first round they play the magic, you know they kill the magic in the second round, You gotta play the heat or the thunder, which is not that he beat them twice already this year, and the next round, you would probably play the Clippers or the Celtics, which is not easy.
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And that eventually the Lakers, whereas the two seed Lakers on the other side of the bracket have, you know, the Rockets and the Nets and the Nuggets and it's a cakewalk on outside the Raptors.
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So, like if you do that scenario, the Bucks, who should be the overall number one seed, are getting the short end of the stick.
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In my opinion, I mean, it's a different kind of year, though it is a different kind of year.
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But I feel like I feel to give you doing that to that team.
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You know what your championship like, you know, just go win it.
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But I believe if you do that, you do it.
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If you're a Western Conference side of it, you've always said, like while the Eastern Conference is such a cakewalk every year, like so, like you know what's mix it up like, Why you gonna complain? That has been, except for this year, right? This passion, you could argue the East has been better than the West.
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No, no, from top to bottom.
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Come on, you don't think so? You could argue it.
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It's not as strong as it was before LeBron and Co.
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I went back to the Western Conference like, How could you even think that? So because you have LeBron, you have the Lakers, Bronner's Dominy, the Eastern Conference.
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Like for the last decade for the best team in the league.
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The best team in the league is in the East.
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I'm just talking about they just look at the records will get record wise because they're concerned in the East because there's nobody in the East.
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I mean, the Raptors air almost 50 wins the Celtics almost 50 wins like this to the Heat.
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They're almost with the kind of person that shows you how soft the Eastern Conference is, though, because the Raptors, without Kawai Leonard, who won the championship last year, are still doing really good, are still doing really good.
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They're good without Kwan.
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There a nice team there What would you think? They're gonna win a championship, but they're not terrible.
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Hey, what did the Bulls do when Michael retired the first year they went? They want 57.
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Game 55.
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They were a nice team, right? And then what happened? They couldn't win championship, but they were good.
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There are better than the That's my boy.
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Like that sedative, they regulate their regular season. Good.
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And that's what we're talking about right now.
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They've only played 65 games, I know, but that the way we all know the Giants air in the Western Conference when it comes down to it, that's just happened. My opinion.
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But if you if you do, the ship that we're talking about, like the Western Conference is probably like, yeah, let me get some of those Eastern Conference teams like we rather deal with that.
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The only one that's gonna really wide about it is the Eastern Conference, because or Milwaukee.
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I just think if you do that to a team like no, if you do that to a team like the Bucks, it means like the 65 games that they played is all for nothing.
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Not necessarily.
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I mean, for they have the number one, the number one seed, to have the best record in the NBA.
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And then you get stuck on the hardest side of the bracket.
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The only thing that they can complain about is the fact that they don't have home court advantage.
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That's the news, Just advantage for everybody.
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Everybody's at the same disadvantage I get that.
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I realize that this name disadvantage is an even playing field.
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Felt expand like you should be.
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And I'm happy about.
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Also in those games.
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Seven scenarios like those don't matter anymore.
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No, I mean, as a Celtics fan were on, that seems out of the bracket.
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We got Philly in the first round.
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We got Clippers in the second round.
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Love it, embrace it, embrace it, right? But I thought that the Celtics have been competitive against the Western Conference.
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You look at the record against Western Conference teams.
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They beat the Clippers. They beat the Lakers.
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They could only meet all these top teams.
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The one team.
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They have trouble with this. For some reason, it's ****ing Houston.
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They can't beat Houston, so I don't want to see them.
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But I haven't go against the Lakers or the Clippers.
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Well, see, that's just what it is.
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So we talked about the scenarios, and it's too bad we didn't have Keith on tonight because he actually knows the landscape of wild world sports so well because he will.
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He worked in Orlando for, I think, said, like, 20 years, 20 years he worked there, which is crazy knows that plays in and out of the back of his hand.
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So it would've been nice to have a mom, but he would.
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He would have been able to tell us about the landscape of not only the Janie's IAM, but like the set up.
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We actually talked about the accommodations, and there was a funny thing I ever listened to on his last interview, where agents were actually complaining about, like some of the teams getting worse accommodations than other teams.
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And I just thought that that was just so, so, so sad, like, Yeah, I just I don't see how you can complain, especially during these times, like you're going to get a hotel like so you're not staying at the Ritz Carlton.
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You know we apologize.
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It's Disney World, but this the world if you if anybody's we're watching this or listen, has never stayed there.
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They got some pretty nice resorts outside of their discounted resorts.
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I mean, that's some pretty nice rooms there, and I can't express this enough like like the U F.
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C.
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Has clearly so.
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The first event, they they had a tested positive fighter.
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They immediately set him home that the event went on and Dana, wait said it like If you want these events toe work, you have to invest a lot of money into it and when he says you have to invest a lot of money into it means you have to invest a lot of money into testing.
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But he proved that even with a positive test, the show could still go on.
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And you could still maintain what you need to dio.
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And that's going to be the big test of what the's pro sports are willing to go through.
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Because I can't be one test being the end, all for everything.
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And I know that's what's going on with all these major sporting leagues is like they're just waiting from one lead to say all right, we're going to go first and then we're gonna see how it works out.
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And I know that it looks like basketball is gonna be the 1st 1 to do it.
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And and you're talking about this bubble and everybody with the accommodations and and you're saying the less people the better and that's obviously understandable.
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But Florida's opened their doors and everything and a little So we have to understand that, like for pro athletes, they're going to get around the clock testing.
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They're going to be there, gonna have around the clock care with doctors and physicians.
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And I have to assume that they're not going to be able to stray away from E.
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No, that's why they call it a bubble was gonna be limitation.
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Could be what it awesome bubble, though your Disney world and they're reopening the I mean this talks about them re opening the park soon.
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Like I mean, I get it.
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You probably don't want to go out and maybe not nothing.
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I gotta go to the park.
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And exactly I'm just saying, like even at the resorts is so much to do give you just chillin like there could be worse places to have a bubble like I just can't if they if they're really willing to go into this and then all of a sudden there's one positive case and they're willing to just stop it over that, then they shouldn't be doing this like I just can't you know.
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So I have to.
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I have to see that they're going in with their eyes wide open and assuming that something could happen and then they have to quarantine there.
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They have to do it everything you dio.
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But I mean, I'm crazy thing.
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That's assume crazy thing that you have to worry about, too.
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Like you always worry about injuries and stuff yet, But you have guys that can be LeBron James.
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What a fecal! What if he's asymptomatic is not even showing any signs, But, yeah, he's still test positive.
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Like Lakers here.
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He's got a quarantine for two weeks.
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Two weeks is the minimal.
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Like you're done.
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Lakers have done as this a crazy scenario that crazy things that there that could potentially.
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But I mean, I'm assuming those guys we're gonna get tested every day.
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Yeah, Oh, yeah, they have to or before every game, at least.
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Right? So that's what makes the most sense in orderto keep this thing going, you know? And I know healthcare professionals right now because I like that they have 24 hour testing results.
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So I know I know that they're available.
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And I know what the UFC that they were doing testing every two days prior to the events.
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I know they had a Wednesday test and then they had a Friday test before way.
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And then what? Not So that's just the way it's gonna be like, That's it.
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That's the way they're gonna have to do with it.
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And so we'll see about that.
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That's basically what's going on.
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And I see with baseball, baseball on the players and the owners is just so ridiculous Watching millionaires argue of billionaires.
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Yeah, and then I was gonna win that battle.
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And then seeing us like regular Joe is like going to work every day, making make it no money and it's heart and it's hard to comprehend.
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Like like man like I hate you guys kind of a little bit like, you know, like because you complained about, like, put living our shoes.
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You know, I'm saying we're literally grinding every day.
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I get the concerns and trust me like we all have the concerns, like some of us don't have a choice.
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And clearly you guys have the means to have a choice, and that's great.
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But to think that you guys won't be properly taken care of and be put in the best situation to be safe.
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Yeah, it just blows my mind like, you know, so like And I'm assuming that, like I said, like, if they're going to do this and they're going to put themselves in these accommodations at the at this Ah, at the Disney Wild World of Sports like it's gonna work.
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Yeah.
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I mean, the NBA's best asset is their players.
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They're not gonna make you know.
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They're gonna make sure that their players are well taken care of it, not in any harm.
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But also we're not going to worry about that.
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So it does look like we might get some more news this week, though Thursday they are having a vote on that competition format, so we should know within the next few days what that is gonna be.
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And then the last few weeks, we've kind of been getting a new little tidbit on the season and get more clarity on it every every week.
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So, uh, next week or the week after, I mean, we should be learning as far as when players or teams are gonna report to Orlando and start that you get to that bubble and start these games and and all these formats that that are going on.
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So, um, we should we should know soon on.
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And we're very excited about that.
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Man Can't wait to get back to basketball.
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We're waiting for effort.
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Wait for something exactly.
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Anybody think ratings wise, it's gonna do unbelievable, no matter what I mean, you look you had the last dance.
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I went crazy.
00:24:20
Then you had a golf match.
00:24:21
That was that was the highest rated golf match there is out and it was just four superstars playing.
00:24:27
People just die.
00:24:28
And you've got people who have never watched like German league soccer that watching Germany exactly right now.
00:24:32
So people are just dying, awash support.
00:24:34
So regardless of what the MBA does, TV wise that we talked about one core or they have two games going on at the same time, it's going to kill ratings wise So it'll do really, really well.
00:24:43
Basically, it's basically anything that you don't know an end result to.
00:24:48
Yeah, good.
00:24:49
Well, that will have good ratings.
00:24:50
Thes you could argue it's even gonna be more of a draw to, like the just the average MBA fans with the new format and everything that they're thinking about doing, like it could just bring more eyes to the tables.
00:25:00
People that normally might not watch basketball are not going to be watching it.
00:25:05
Yeah, that's true.
00:25:08
And we and we talked about it.
00:25:09
I mean, like, this will be a good experimentally.
00:25:11
They're going toe run this to the end of August, early on mid September, and then they won't have the restart until they're saying probably Christmas time.
00:25:21
And I know we talked about this a while ago with hopefully, maybe MBA actually restarting their league continuously around Christmas Day would not being able to have to compete against other pro sporting's like the end of the season.
00:25:35
The hockey, the end of the end of the Major league Baseball, obviously doesn't look like Major League baseball is going to compete with anything because I don't think Major League Baseball's you did I know your baseball game? Baseball sucks, bro.
00:25:46
It's not.
00:25:47
There is not America's pastime anymore.
00:25:49
I apologize.
00:25:50
That's Does it suck because the game itself does.
00:25:53
That suck because of the players and the owners of the game is to me like So you're a diehard baseball fan as well, Like, you know, the ins and outs of the game.
00:26:00
For me, I'm an average family.
00:26:02
I'm a Red Sox fan like I watch the socks.
00:26:04
But I obviously won't watch all 162 games and I'll tune into the playoffs.
00:26:08
You know, when they make the playoffs.
00:26:09
For me, the game's just too long.
00:26:11
A lot of these games, that's the problem, that they don't want to evolve.
00:26:15
They don't want to change.
00:26:16
Like every sport has made changes to their game.
00:26:20
Teoh find ways to be more inventive to make the game more progressive and paste.
00:26:26
Ball doesn't want to do that and it's part of the players full and it's part of the owner small and for whatever reason they don't want to change anything.
00:26:33
They just want more money, more revenue and this is the first time that you're seeing over belly in and some backlash happen and it's going with the players and it's going with the owners.
00:26:46
But now you're seeing the fans like, look back from afar, being like, you know what? We don't really We don't really care for you guys now and it's very bad PR.
00:26:55
It's very, very bad PR and you and I'm seeing votes, probably people saying that like, honestly, we don't really care.
00:27:01
We don't watch baseball this year and that's crazy, agreed.
00:27:04
I agree with those people and that and that, and that's really crazy to me because, I mean, there's one thing that I used to always say.
00:27:11
It was like I could always wake up next day and there was always a Red Sox game on and they lose.
00:27:16
They'd win.
00:27:17
And then tomorrow's a new day and the Red Sox will be back on the Red Sox.
00:27:20
Always there, always there during the summer, and that would be a one day because there's nothing else on during the summer.
00:27:27
You know, you got the N B A finals until June, and then after that it was like, but that's why I was saying like, it be nice to have the MBA started Christmas Day, and that way you have the MBA push into July and then maybe early part of August.
00:27:40
So you have that push and it would be bad for baseball.
00:27:44
But the MBA would trumpet it would be good for the MBA.
00:27:47
Yeah, because, I mean, let's face it, the N b A.
00:27:50
I think there's a bigger global sport, but the NFL absolutely rules this country, and so to compete with the NFL ratings wise is just a death sentence.
00:28:00
You know what I mean? They just can't do it.
00:28:02
It's stuff that's is one day.
00:28:03
That's that's four football and everybody tunes in and they got the whole fantasy football thing now, and people are watching every game there.
00:28:10
Just all eyes are glued to the NFL.
00:28:13
So have your season star on Christmas Day? Um, where is a huge day? Christmas Day in the N.
00:28:18
B.
00:28:19
A.
00:28:20
Is like Thanksgiving for football.
00:28:21
There's five marquee games on you always have the best match ups, and at that time at the end of December, you only have about five weeks left in the NFL season.
00:28:28
So it's only five weeks of the season you gotta compete with, as opposed to, basically a supposed to the whole season.
00:28:34
Um, so I think I would be better for the MBA.
00:28:36
You'd still be able to get all 82 games in.
00:28:39
Like you said, you would just finish a little bit later.
00:28:41
You'd would push everything back.
00:28:42
Trade deadline. We get pushed back.
00:28:44
All Star Game pushback, um, playoffs, pushback and eventually finals would be pushed back to probably July or so.
00:28:50
Maybe every August, which you said the only other thing on time is baseball, and they're not gonna have any.
00:28:56
And you and you even see it.
00:28:57
And you even see it during the football season.
00:28:59
Like the MBA caters to the NFL schedule like Super Bowl Sunday like you're seeing matinee basketball games just so they can get away from that and a playoff games.
00:29:08
Matinee basketball games like they're always trying to find ways to fit N B A games in so they don't get lambasted by a NFL Games that in prime time, because they know no one's going to watch them.
00:29:19
So rather than deal with that, just find a better time of year to just run it.
00:29:23
You know, you know, it is created to, like even the sucky games, like the Thursday night games that everybody complains about in the NFL, where you have, like the Jaguar.
00:29:30
First of the Italians are doing better numbers in the TNT n B A games on Thursday nights, and it's just it's the part of it, Mark.
00:29:37
I mean, you got 82 regular season basketball games, so I mean, no one's really cares about the first unless you're a die hard fan like I mean, I do.
00:29:45
But I believe pass, man, I'm watching everything True, but I mean the first quarter of the season.
00:29:49
Like, you know, like people are, you know, like, kind of sleepwalking through it today.
00:29:54
And it would give more shine to college basketball to like It opens up that sport a little bit more.
00:29:59
And, you know, the first quarter of an M B A season with 82 games obviously doesn't mean as much as like an NFL season where every game matters in a 16 game season.
00:30:07
Absolutely more more Isar include to that, you know.
00:30:10
And the NHL also is going on around that time too, so I mean yes, Yep, for sure.
00:30:15
So, you know, I think like you said, man, and I think we're on the same page with this.
00:30:18
When I think the MBA this year is going to do that, I think they'll use it that as, um, a learning point and we'll see how it does.
00:30:26
And I think going forward, they This could be kind of a stepping stone to continue to do that for future seasons.
00:30:31
I agree.
00:30:32
So one last thing we want to get into guys before we before we head out is, um we are, um, obviously a couple of Celtics fans.
00:30:40
And there was some news recently in the MBA on Celtics front with Jayson Tatum and his contract, and they said that it was reported that this other is gonna offer Jayson Tatum the Max Ah contract at the end of this season.
00:30:55
Surprise, surprise.
00:30:57
Not a shock to anybody.
00:30:58
He's definitely earned it.
00:31:00
But with that happening in the Celtics offering him the max, they basically have said that they're going to go to battle with Kemba Walker, Jaylen Brown and Jayson Tatum.
00:31:09
Those your three guys Jalen, get his contract.
00:31:11
He's locked up long term cameras got his Maxie's locked up long term.
00:31:14
And now you have Jayson Tatum.
00:31:15
So it looks like the salt is gonna ride with those three guys going forward.
00:31:20
What do you think, Steve? Is there kind of ceiling? Do you see Jason Tatum eventual eating the Celtics to a title? Do you think that these three guys Tatum, Brown and Campbell could eventually lead them to its idol? Or you think that just kind of be top of the line Eastern Conference for years to come? Well, I think it depends on where they're what they're gonna add to it.
00:31:40
I think this is bad news for Gordon Hayward.
00:31:42
I don't see Gordon a were returning.
00:31:44
He doesn't Really? Yeah, he doesn't really fit.
00:31:46
Now.
00:31:47
It it doesn't fit.
00:31:48
And I think he I think it doesn't make sense for him now.
00:31:50
I think moneywise like I can't see him unless he's willing to restructure.
00:31:56
I can't.
00:31:57
I think he would be.
00:31:59
I think him and brand have like, this thing.
00:32:01
You know what I mean? Like he would come back, he would come back to Boston for less for sure.
00:32:05
I don't know, but I mean, yeah, I mean, you're talking about two guys that you drafted, The top three? Um, that are, what, 2023 22 23 1 22 doesn't seem just turned 22 this year.
00:32:21
Yeah, I mean, so I mean, I mean, their prime years are ahead of them in there, and they're next in their next contract, you know? So, yeah, I mean, it's like it's to me.
00:32:29
It's like, Look what they're doing already.
00:32:31
Like Jay LeBron is averaging 20 points a game.
00:32:33
Tatum was his first season as an All Star.
00:32:36
Like these guys are just moving up and getting better and better every single year.
00:32:40
It be crazy to think that they're not going to just get better from here on out.
00:32:44
There's no evidence that shows that they're gonna decline and not be what everybody expects them to be.
00:32:50
So I mean, the skill set that Jayson Tatum has.
00:32:53
If he continues to get better, there's no reason to believe that he wouldn't be able to eventually the Celtics to at least one championship.
00:33:00
They got to keep markets smart with them.
00:33:02
They gotta think, just gonna keep fighting some good core you to keep the core guys, You gotta You gotta find some good, moldy pieces that work with those guys and just understand that those are the guys that are going to carry them where they need to go.
00:33:14
Hopefully, Kemba stays healthy.
00:33:15
Obviously we starts, um, leak injuries.
00:33:18
And and that was another thing.
00:33:19
I mean, obviously, I I used to come at Campbell with his his knee injury, but if there was anybody that needed the rest and that could be coming, that this could be good news for the Celtics if they come into this playoff format.
00:33:31
It was came about because he was hobbling going into the big time branch of the of the season.
00:33:38
And I had no faith that he was going to be on the whole.
00:33:41
The whole team was really Gordon got banged up, break before they were.
00:33:44
They quit.
00:33:45
And then Jaylen Brown was laboring with a hamstring injury.
00:33:48
So I mean, not only the Celtics, with all these teams, you're going to get everybody back at 100% which is going to be hugest.
00:33:54
It's probably one of the best playoffs we'll see in a long time.
00:33:56
Yeah, so I mean, I mean, Yeah, I like it.
00:34:00
That's exactly what you envisioned.
00:34:04
The Nets policing of the trade.
00:34:07
That's exactly what you wanted when you when you got those picks that you're gonna be able to get cornerstones for the next regime.
00:34:14
And with Jalen and Jason, that's exactly what you got.
00:34:17
So that definitely was a home run for Danny.
00:34:19
And hopefully they can continue to add the necessary pieces and not continue to send them up to Maine because we don't want mean to continue to be a juggernaut.
00:34:27
Mark.
00:34:28
We want the Boston Celtics come through the main red claws.
00:34:31
The best you could send them over season.
00:34:33
They won some championships, probably.
00:34:36
I mean, the disporting on the show Taco Fall is, I believe every year the Celtics have nine draft picks and seven of them go on to the main red cause.
00:34:44
So it makes sense.
00:34:45
Why means a juggernaut? Yeah, so that's just what it is.
00:34:50
But we didn't talk about being in the show.
00:34:51
I don't want to end on it, but there was a space launch the other day.
00:34:55
I know there's a lot of Syria.
00:34:56
Let's get into it.
00:34:57
So there was a space to launch.
00:34:59
I'm sure a lot of people know you on mosque.
00:35:01
Did a privatised mission to space.
00:35:04
Ah was a first privatised mission, Um, by something not done by NASA.
00:35:11
And it was actually really cool.
00:35:13
They actually had their own walk up music, and they did a thunderstruck and made me think of what would be my walk up music when I want to go up to space and I thought about yours and go ahead.
00:35:26
You can You can give me what your walk up music would be.
00:35:29
Well, in honor of the last dance in my love for Michael Jordan, it would be the Bulls intro.
00:35:35
And that's exactly what I thought you were going to say.
00:35:38
Yeah, I know.
00:35:39
And my am I was gonna be Tell me that doesn't fit.
00:35:42
Perfect. Yeah.
00:35:43
Come on.
00:35:44
I was gonna I would've picked Ted Nugent's stranglehold.
00:35:46
I just think, you know, like, I just know that that fits.
00:35:50
You think that was submitted to the great? It was not going to be fired up, you know, Like I said, it was thunderstruck.
00:35:56
They walked up to thunderstruck thunderstruck snot badly.
00:35:58
If that doesn't get you fired up.
00:36:00
Listen, I thought these news were ready.
00:36:02
I did not.
00:36:03
All they needed was like a laser show, but went on, I would've been You can't knock the song.
00:36:08
You can't knock the song.
00:36:09
Choice for sure didn't even see it coming.
00:36:11
But I know I was fired up for him.
00:36:12
I was like, This is going to work And it was weird.
00:36:14
It was like the day before, like they had a huge malfunction.
00:36:18
And I was like, Oh, they're in deep trouble And then they actually had a thunderstorm that was like hovering over them for, like, hours.
00:36:24
And I don't think the lunch was gonna happen.
00:36:25
And and And the thing about the space launches, now you have these cameras and feeds that go like 16 17 minutes after they actually launched.
00:36:36
So, like, instead of, like, the old school thing where they, like, look up into the sky and it seems like you can't see him anymore.
00:36:41
It's over, like you get to watch these guys for a really long time, and then that and that space launches will never not be cool.
00:36:47
Ever.
00:36:48
And I started listening to, like alone.
00:36:50
Yeah, listen to a lot of astronaut like, uh, I think it was like I am podcasts and that they had lied ups and they were talking about, like, things that they did on the moon.
00:37:01
And that got me thinking, like, what would be the first thing you would do on the moon that would be memorable to you? I would tell me two things and we talked about this.
00:37:10
Appreciate what? Two things I would I would hit a golf.
00:37:12
I would try to hit a golf ball.
00:37:13
Probably the longest drive I've ever hit.
00:37:15
And I probably tried to shoot a basketball, which would probably almost impossible.
00:37:19
Yeah, I mean, they talked about like, one of them said that you liked did, like, try to do the longest jump anyway.
00:37:25
Ended on his back.
00:37:26
I forget who it waas.
00:37:27
But when he went in and I was back like he broke one of his like he broke like a piece of the tank and was killed.
00:37:33
It's dangerous.
00:37:34
You don't want to do that.
00:37:35
Oh, yeah, But I mean, I would just I would have the longest digger ever.
00:37:39
You know, throw that like, you know, that would be my thing.
00:37:43
is no longer that Is somebody gonna You just gonna soft toss it to yourself? Is somebody gonna pitch it to you? I mean, I just throw it up, swing out, and somebody would just pick it up and they would just kind of glide or you could even just like I could just I could just hold it there.
00:37:59
Let go.
00:38:00
And then you just swing.
00:38:01
Yeah, to be something that I don't even wanna work.
00:38:04
I would have to hit it, but it was just you would be screaming in slow motion.
00:38:07
You want to be able to, like, even all the way the blue that we did.
00:38:12
So you don't have that kind of You don't have that power.
00:38:16
Oh, yes.
00:38:17
You don't have warning track power.
00:38:20
That's warning track.
00:38:21
Ludo's warning track will be.
00:38:23
How far is **** from the moon? Like do you know? I mean, it's the furthest planet away, so I mean, that's that girl for you're not getting a plateau.
00:38:35
You will see.
00:38:37
Would you Would you ever If you get a free trip to the moon, would you take it? I'd say I'd probably say I would want to, but I'd probably say nobody would be nervous as **** I would have.
00:38:49
No, like, I have no idea what's going on or the risk that you know, I'm saying, like there'd be so many risks and that you're talking about a guy jumping and almost landing on his back and dying like Lord be lost up there he was You got a family to take care of.
00:39:04
You know, I'm saying so My my thing was like, I always said, no because of what you're saying.
00:39:08
There's so many risk involved.
00:39:10
But then I, like, thought about like So what if you were, like, 65.
00:39:13
Would you then take the free trip to the moon at that point all like like nearing the end of my days? I have probably at that point.
00:39:23
Yeah, but at that point, my family, my three kids there adults they've confirmed for themselves take care of themselves.
00:39:28
They don't need daddy at that point.
00:39:29
You know, I'm saying so.
00:39:31
I mean, honestly, I would still want to be there for them.
00:39:32
I'm not saying it's okay if something happened to me, but, you know, it's obviously easier on them to be able to defend for themselves, you know? So So my thing about like, going smoothly, It's just like the silence would just be like crazy to me.
00:39:45
Like I know that they're doing a lot of stuff up in the space station and like, a lot of things were going around about, like, you know, But there's only so many things you can do.
00:39:53
Like the boredom would probably like kill you.
00:39:54
But if there was one time that you would want to get away from Earth right now like this would definitely be the time.
00:40:00
Oh, yeah, for sure.
00:40:01
What do you missing out? Yeah, I hear like you Corona virus.
00:40:06
I think I think you're probably safer up at the moon right now that you probably are down here.
00:40:10
Yeah, it's crazy.
00:40:13
So that about wraps it up, guys.
00:40:16
Raises to the end of Episode 14.
00:40:18
So hopeful you guys are just as excited as us for the NBA's return.
00:40:23
Looks like we're going to get some more clarity within the coming weeks of ah, when this situation and when the end is going to be back in the bubble in Orlando at the Wide World of Sports and we'll bring it to you here on Hoop Dreams with future episodes will let you know everything that's going on.
00:40:38
So stay tuned.
00:40:40
We'll be back next week with another episode.
00:40:42
I'm Until then, Peace guys chow.

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