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00:05:00
the following takes place between 8 a.
00:05:02
m. and 9 a.m.
00:05:33
Good morning, everybody.
00:05:35
And welcome back to F P C radio live after a long weekend a three day weekend We're back rockin and a rolling So I'm not gonna waste too much time You know who I am? My name is the England and that's right, I am.
00:05:47
I am the one who sits in this chair every every morning and and, uh, uh, tries to help put on a show for you, and I can't do that without, you know, my partner here in the reason why I can't do that is because I don't like talking for an hour straight, and I really run out of things to say so I can least bounce it off to to my guy Mike, who can at least fill in the gaps for me.
00:06:07
So, Mr King of filling in the gaps. That's right.
00:06:11
He is.
00:06:12
Mr Mike Debate Mike, I really don't know if that was an insult or Matt, But how we doing today? Not, uh you know what? At this point, introductions are always good.
00:06:26
I'll take him, no matter how I could get them so I don't take it as a personal knock.
00:06:29
I take it as a compliment, and I think we'll run from their man because I'm here to fill in the gaps after all.
00:06:36
Yeah, you go.
00:06:37
And, like I said, just like a little wedge or just like a little Ah, split little peg.
00:06:42
I mean, Okay, now I think I am getting to the point where I'm its hope that you and I really don't mean to.
00:06:47
I'm just I'm trying to come up with creative ways of introducing you to to kill a few seconds off the show.
00:06:52
So, um, I'll work on that.
00:06:54
I'm going to, um I'm going to go to my wrestling manager.
00:06:58
He'll school s so I can learn all the techniques that were that are, you know, that are relevant to this, and, you know, hopefully help me improve.
00:07:08
I'll study some of the greats, you know, we know we're talking about the videos.
00:07:13
Videos of Bobby Heenan.
00:07:15
Probably some of the best that you Oh, yes.
00:07:18
Oh, yeah. No.
00:07:19
And, um, you know, that's something.
00:07:21
Ah, that's something I do.
00:07:22
Regardless of whether or not I'm tryingto introduce you, I just You know.
00:07:26
That's just fun.
00:07:28
Fun to watch.
00:07:29
So, um, we We missed something, though.
00:07:31
The other day.
00:07:32
Um, actually, this was this was, like, six days ago, So Ah, yeah, last Wednesday and I kept meaning to bring it up, bring it up, bring it up.
00:07:39
But, uh, you know, I again, you know, like it.
00:07:42
So we got a lot to get to sometimes.
00:07:43
So, you know, again, you know, sometimes things, you know, hit the hit the, you know, hit the back burner.
00:07:48
But I do want to mention it before comes becomes too late.
00:07:53
But the 20th was the tragic anniversary.
00:07:58
Nine years since death.
00:08:00
Mr.
00:08:01
Macho Man, Randy Sa***e.
00:08:03
Oh, yeah.
00:08:04
Yes.
00:08:05
So I went and, you know, that's the thing that happened right down the street from where I am right now.
00:08:11
Currently, that's actually driven by the area that that it happened.
00:08:14
E um, if anyone obviously knows, he had a heart attack while driving and basically died before he crashed the car, I believe.
00:08:22
Ah, and again a lot of it to me how having to do with steroids, much like many of these wrestlers of the eighties and nineties that that we talk about all the time.
00:08:33
There's no coincidence that a lot of them have died at a young age, especially the macho man's, the recruits the, you know, ultimate words, all these guys that ultimately had terrible heart conditions and and was brought on by years and years of steroid abuse.
00:08:51
But, um, you know, macho man, we obviously we speak to him all the time about him all the time and very glowing and positive manner, because again, it's one of our, you know, both of large, fair favorite wrestlers of that time period.
00:09:05
And he was just a very electric personality. Was certainly.
00:09:09
Ah, certainly sad that, Ah, that he would.
00:09:11
He was one of those statistics in the wrestling world.
00:09:14
You know, one of those guys that just died far too young, please rise to the top.
00:09:20
Yeah, he really was.
00:09:22
He really was.
00:09:23
Randy was just brilliant.
00:09:24
It was just a brilliant performer.
00:09:26
And not only was he brilliant on the microphone, he had charisma.
00:09:29
He had electricity whenever he spoke any words.
00:09:32
But he was amazing in the ring as well, something that I think differentiated him even from a guy like whole Coke and who was obviously the biggest star that wrestling has ever produce.
00:09:42
Well, I guess I guess maybe you could make the argument that doing the rock Johnson has become bigger in the term of the mainstream.
00:09:52
First, when you when you talk about wrestling per se when you talk about WWF, someone mentions the letters W W f w w e even WCW first image you have.
00:10:03
It's pretty much all Coke and Hulk Hogan A maybe Ric Flair.
00:10:06
But if you look at Hogan to me, I think the dominance that he had in both of those companies sets him apart.
00:10:12
But Randy had the ability to entertain in the ring like no one else.
00:10:15
He had the athletic ability, the ability to leap from the top row, pop over the ropes, you know, mix it up. He could be a hell.
00:10:22
He could be a other the best of good guys.
00:10:25
He really had a charisma to him that was just unique, and it's a style of his that was very unique as well.
00:10:30
So, you know, nine years ago, it's it's tough to believe I still remember.
00:10:34
You know, the day that I heard that and just you know, yet another piece of publishing yet another piece of of, um, you know, my childhood, another piece of history of w w history going down, and it just it's it's tough to see these guys passed on before their time.
00:10:52
Um, yeah, that was a tough one, because Randy was someone that I grew up always, always enjoying toe watch, no matter what side of the coin that he was on, whether he was a hell or whether he was a face.
00:11:03
You always find yourself rooting for Randy Sa***e.
00:11:05
Um, and he was obviously growing up.
00:11:09
You did a lot of women over wrestling watching with my dad.
00:11:13
Wasn't a big fan of wrestling before I got into it, but I started to get in interested in that.
00:11:18
And Randy Sa***e was always one of his favorites.
00:11:19
He just loved this charisma.
00:11:20
He loved his wit.
00:11:21
Ah, the way he delivered lines was just It was It was second to none.
00:11:25
And he is He is sorely, sorely missed.
00:11:29
Yeah, May is a tough month for ah, for wrestling deaths we think about, you know, Elizabeth Hewlett.
00:11:35
Uh, Miss Elizabeth was lost in the month of May as well.
00:11:39
And another anniversary that happened over the weekend, which is one of the most polarizing wrestling losses in the history of professional wrestling, was on May 23rd.
00:11:50
And that's the loss of own heart and actually believe it or not relevant within the other.
00:11:56
The current framework, because recently, beyond the mat was our website under the on the mat was a different times A charm.
00:12:05
Thank you.
00:12:07
Beyond the bad beyond the ropes Dark side of the ring I'll get there.
00:12:09
Uh, they they had a ah ah do***entary Where Martha Heart For the first time in a long time, I got a chance to tell her side of the story.
00:12:18
And whether you agree with her side, whether you agree with WWF's retort, you know, you could just agree that both sides are, you know, still feeling the effects.
00:12:28
Still feeling the devastating loss from a guy, by all accounts, who was one of the great guys in the business? One.
00:12:35
I've never heard one wrestler have a bad word to say about all heart, and I think that really, you know, not even his brother can say that there are a lot of you know there are a lot of people out there that are detractors of bread hard or detractors of different wrestling personalities.
00:12:49
You've heard someone pretty much have something to say about just about everybody in the world of professional wrestling.
00:12:54
It's really not a, um, a business where you you you do make a lot of close friends, but you can make some enemies as well.
00:13:01
It sounded like Owen didn't have an enemy in the world and that that's tough.
00:13:05
When you lose a guy that is that positive and has that many positive effects on that many lives, it's it's just that's it's tough to what a dake.
00:13:14
So, um, yeah, that one.
00:13:17
That one was really when I took a look at the you know, the amount of years and how long it's been.
00:13:22
Uh uh.
00:13:23
That almost surprised to me that there really is a wake up call for how quickly time flies well, in and again.
00:13:29
I mean, that's something I haven't had a chance to watch the do***entary yet.
00:13:32
I was planning on.
00:13:34
Yeah, I mean, I knew it was coming out.
00:13:36
I just again, you know, sometimes you just don't have the time and that's that's one of those things where I I want to sit down and give it my undivided attention.
00:13:44
Like, you know, I spend a lot of time here working at home and on the computer and, you know, watch TV in the background.
00:13:51
But they don't generally ah, watch anything new just because, I mean, it would require me sitting there and actually watching the video.
00:13:58
And I really, you know, for the most part, I can't do that.
00:14:02
Um, you know, for example, I started watching season to a 24 last night just because it was just, you know, I It's one of those things, you know, before we go off on a you know, 24 tangent.
00:14:16
Um, you know, that whole event you think you think about the cir***stances I think about the name of the dam event over the edge, like Jesus.
00:14:25
Like, I mean, it's no wonder that this this whole event in this whole scenario is just one of those thes unfortunate dark marks in the history of W w E.
00:14:36
And it was just It was so tragic and t o be there.
00:14:40
I mean, I can't imagine having been there.
00:14:42
And look, this was Ah, was 97 right? 97.
00:14:48
I should have looked this up before I said it, but, you know, 99 99.
00:14:52
Yeah, right. Right.
00:14:53
Okay.
00:14:54
Yeah, you're right.
00:14:55
So late nineties, um, over the edge. 1999.
00:14:57
I mean, that there wasn't Twitter.
00:14:59
There wasn't, you know, weren't taking their cell phones.
00:15:01
I mean, people even have cell phones.
00:15:03
I mean, maybe maybe had a car phone.
00:15:05
One of those clunky things in the middle of your Ah, your your station wagon.
00:15:10
You know, those, like, family vehicles? The head feels like, I mean, actual car phones.
00:15:14
Which again, for those younger folks out there, there's there was an actual wired phone inside the middle console of of a older vehicle.
00:15:22
Sometimes station wagon, minivans, you know, family type cars, but with a gigantic 10.
00:15:27
Yeah, well, that, you know, you could, uh, looks like you could go fishing off the back end of your car with sales.
00:15:34
And that is exactly so.
00:15:36
Um, but yeah.
00:15:38
So it was just It was Ah, you know, it's just incredibly just tragic, period.
00:15:43
And, you know, if you're like me, I I always get lost in the I guess, the just the endless thought process of Okay, what was going through his mind during it, You know what I mean? And it's like it's more of it and it's like, you know, But that's part of the human psyche.
00:16:01
And that's what you you know, that that's what attracts people to crime do***entaries.
00:16:06
And, you know, people who are Ah ah, upset.
00:16:10
I don't want to say obsessed, but, like, you know, enjoy Ah, do***entaries on like serial killers, you know, because you want to get into the human psyche and that's you know, that's part of it, too.
00:16:20
There's a there's a This is a different aspect of it because you're trying to imagine what someone's thinking.
00:16:27
Ah, immediately prior and during what ultimately his his final moments.
00:16:32
And and it's when you start thinking about that, you go down that rabbit hole and you think about the scenario, and you're like, How could I mean, how did this all unfolded? It's it's, you know, it's at the end of day.
00:16:43
It's sad, and like you said, I mean 2021 years, I mean, that's that. That's wild.
00:16:48
That's that's absolutely What? That's a long time.
00:16:50
Yeah, and that one still feels fresh.
00:16:52
I mean, I remember I actually was not, Um Ah.
00:16:56
I actually was in the middle of college when that happened, and I was just I was just stunned, you know, when I when I heard that.
00:17:04
And I You know, it's one of those things where you never really appreciate the type of performer that Owen was until he was gone.
00:17:12
Um, you know, there were a lot of people out there.
00:17:14
I'm sure I was one of them that always found his character a little annoying.
00:17:18
But you always were entertained by him.
00:17:20
You couldn't quite put your you.
00:17:22
You put your finger on it as to why, and then you go back and you look at some of the matches and you look at what? What a map technician He was, how great he was through the air, how great he was even wrestling on the ground.
00:17:32
Now you see a lot of the heart training, but he broke out a lot of that and really was, I think away from if people looked at him objectively, he had really broken away from his brother's shadow.
00:17:43
Maybe not in terms of the public persona.
00:17:46
I think everybody always looked at him, his Bretz little brother.
00:17:48
But if you just looked at him with the way he was able to perform in the ring, he was a different type of performer than his brother used The sharpshooter, I know, but there's a lot of nuances of the way he he worked in the ring that were different from the way Brett did.
00:18:03
And again, I haven't seen the do***entary.
00:18:06
I did hear about it naturally.
00:18:08
I mean, I know it took me three tries to get the name of the do***entary company, right, But I did watch the addendum, and I don't buy may be in the minority here, but I have watched the addendum of the do***entary that Bret Hart did on any long time ago during the Montreal screw job, which was Hit Man Hart wrestling with shadows.
00:18:30
And they didnt addendum to that.
00:18:31
I'm not sure if a lot of people know that about the death of own heart and about how the people around him learned of that and what their opinions were, and I understand **** Foley is interviewed in the dark side of the ring version.
00:18:44
He was interviewed in the, um, the Hitman Hart do***entary that I saw as well, and to hear **** describe that being first hand and being actually there when it happened is chilling.
00:18:57
Really? Really.
00:18:58
It's chilling.
00:18:59
I mean, you put yourselves in the position of thes wrestlers that were there.
00:19:02
Ah, that had no idea what to do, how to react, how to carry on.
00:19:07
And they had to just, you know, you start their bootstraps and go back out is horrifying.
00:19:12
And it's heartbreaking.
00:19:13
And look, I know there are a lot of people that the polarizing part of this is whether Vince should have continued the show or not.
00:19:19
Um, I don't think there's an easy answer to that question.
00:19:21
To be honest with you, I think I think there is now, to be honest, Yeah.
00:19:25
I mean, I think we look back in hindsight, were like, You know what? That the W W.
00:19:29
Is the ultimate example of the show must go on in every situation.
00:19:33
I mean, look at it now.
00:19:34
I mean, it hasn't missed a beat since, you know, in a different, you know, different cir***stances, but you know, Vince's always been, you know, Look, the show must go on, and in a way, I mean, it's it's it may be the best for out.
00:19:47
Yeah.
00:19:48
I mean, I think in a lot of ways, I think people need to remember that this was something that was, you know, it was unanticipated.
00:19:56
It was unprecedented.
00:19:58
I mean, you know, especially in the well, Mum of professional wrestling.
00:20:01
The way we know it today.
00:20:03
That's the only time I know of that Someone had perished in the ring where there was a true serious health concern about someone while they were in the ring on live pay per view television in front of an audience of 20,000 orm.
00:20:18
Or how do you make that call? I mean, how do you make that call? You just send everybody home.
00:20:24
I mean, you just it's so tough to do when I think a lot of people love to Monday morning quarterback when it comes to this.
00:20:29
So Oh, Vince, German never should have done this.
00:20:31
He never should've continued the show. It's disgusting.
00:20:34
It's barbaric.
00:20:35
I mean, I wouldn't feel I I wouldn't have knocked Vince for not continuing the show.
00:20:41
I think there's a lot that there's a lot of an argument that could be made for him not doing it, but at the same time, like you said, he's the type of guy.
00:20:49
He's the type of owner that is going toe.
00:20:51
Always air on the side of the show must go on, and this is what has to be done.
00:20:56
I think in a lot of ways he stayed true to that.
00:21:01
I don't think you can necessarily fault him for it.
00:21:03
And again, I'm not on the other end of that.
00:21:06
I'm not going through with Martha and and Oh Jin Athena owns Children, went through knowing that their father was never coming home, and that's that's a very difficult position.
00:21:16
I mean, I've I've lost my own dad, but it wasn't through the fault of anyone else.
00:21:22
It was through, you know, unfortunately, health, you know, issue that was just unforeseen and it was very sudden and very traumatic.
00:21:30
But at the same time, I wasn't looking for toe lay the blame on anyone that wasn't because of negligence or anything like that.
00:21:36
So there's a lot of feelings that could be had when it comes to someone, like all in and the death that he experienced.
00:21:43
But at this point, you know, to sit there and to definitively say, Well, then should have done this and should have done that.
00:21:50
I still believe that the jury to me, I still think it's still out.
00:21:53
And I don't think you can fault him for the decision that he made, especially under the cir***stances.
00:21:59
That's not an easy decision to make a snap decision right there and be able to make the right one.
00:22:04
No. And then Yeah, exactly.
00:22:06
And in.
00:22:07
Look, I I think I think you did the right thing.
00:22:09
I mean, and, you know, again they've become known for for, you know, honoring, you know, their fallen stars and everything like that.
00:22:18
And we've seen far too many of these tribute shows, and and you know that that have, you know, spurred out of the, you know, just if he And if you remember, too if you remember, um, September 11th.
00:22:31
Ah, that obviously that happened.
00:22:34
That was on a Wednesday.
00:22:36
So the very they were one of the If I remember correctly, they were the first or one of the first live events that take place after that because they didn't.
00:22:46
If I remember correctly, they did not miss.
00:22:50
They did not miss a show.
00:22:51
Um, we know the NFL pushed back everything a week.
00:22:54
So you missed.
00:22:55
Ah, weekend of NFL football.
00:22:57
I think baseball obviously, uh, paused everything for a little bit.
00:23:02
But, ah, I I have a very vivid memory memory of, um, Vince and that the WWI crew coming out, you know, the whole all of them, you know, they do the thing where they stand up on the stage.
00:23:14
They've done this for tributes.
00:23:15
They've done this for, you know, tragic deaths, anything like that.
00:23:20
And, ah, you know, they come up and they talk from the harder they talk about How you know this is this is who we are.
00:23:25
This is what we're gonna do and look, you know, that's that's fence.
00:23:27
He's always been that person.
00:23:29
And, um, you know, in a way, it's it's it's quite admirable because, you know, a sad as a lot of these things are the reality of it is life keeps going almost said life finds a way just out of reach out about a just reaction but like are just habit, but no, but really, you know, life has to go on.
00:23:48
So it's like at some point, you do have to get on, you know, with normalcy.
00:23:53
So in his eyes, he does it right away and and look, And some people may not like it, but at the end of day, it's not a big deal.
00:24:01
And I I think, um, you know, they you know, like, when When? You know, at the time when Chris Benoit died and they didn't know the details that, you know, the very next day, you know, they were out there, Everyone was paying tribute to him.
00:24:14
Same with Eddie Guerrero.
00:24:15
And you talk about the ultimate warrior.
00:24:17
Who again, we all you know this in more recent history.
00:24:21
Remember his ah, somewhat ah, celebrated return after years away from the W w E and fighting and getting up there.
00:24:29
And I Look, I remember watching not only, uh, obviously WrestleMania, but like watching him on broad that next night, I'm just like I remember, actually.
00:24:40
You know what? I I think I was sitting there with our with our good mutual friend.
00:24:43
What they're like, Wow, this guy looks like he's gonna have a heart attack.
00:24:47
And, yeah, 12 hours later, you know, And and that's the thing.
00:24:52
It's like sometimes you know, the signs.
00:24:54
You you say it, you know, kind of not jokingly, but you know what I mean? And kind of like, Oh, look at him.
00:24:59
He's beet red in the face.
00:25:00
He looks like he's gonna He's gonna pop.
00:25:02
Well, in that case, feet he did.
00:25:04
And it's sad.
00:25:05
But, you know, at this point, it's almost not surprising with some of these guys because we realize you know what they were doing to themselves, to put themselves through this.
00:25:15
And you mentioned, you know, you mentioned Randy Sa***e and his ah, athleticism, and that really wasn't the norm back then.
00:25:22
You had guys, you know, throughout the history of W W E a.
00:25:26
Jimmy Superfly Snuka.
00:25:28
He comes to mind very quickly about a guy who could really, you know, high flying, you know, a lot of athleticism and that sense.
00:25:36
But, you know, the stars of the eighties and early nineties they weren't the best quote unquote wrestlers.
00:25:43
I mean, they weren't tacticians, they weren't.
00:25:45
You know, guys, that we're gonna go in and do these incredible things in the ring.
00:25:49
They were just larger than life characters with personalities and and, ah, physique.
00:25:56
Pretty much.
00:25:57
I mean, that was that was the image, and Randy was that for sure.
00:26:00
But like you said, he was always, always athletic and and kind of surprised you for a big man.
00:26:06
But the point is, those guys were that size for a reason, and that reason was a lot of them used steroids.
00:26:14
And we know now some of the long term effects that it has on your health and primarily your your heart and everything like that.
00:26:22
So, um, you know, it's not surprising when you see these guys passed away like this.
00:26:27
Obviously, you know, the whole own heart thing is it's different.
00:26:30
And that's a you know, if you know, obviously hindsight, it's avoidable tragedy, but at the time it was unavoidable.
00:26:36
Um, so you know, it is It can be depressing, because again, you and I both grew up watching these watching these guys and and and and see, you know, seem like one by one, just kind of drop off.
00:26:49
And you know, when we sit here and have a conversation about wrestlers and then it dawns on you like Oh, yeah, the trade.
00:26:55
This guy's dead and it happens all too often waiting too often when we're talking about wrestling.
00:27:00
So but we're not gonna do that anymore for the rest of day.
00:27:04
Here, at least you know, are trying not to, because we only have about 19 minutes left and we do have a couple of things to get Teoh 1st 1st the Gulf matchup of the century, um, took place this weekend and that was, Ah, Peyton Manning and Tiger Woods.
00:27:19
Ah, against Tom Brady and Phil ****elson.
00:27:21
And I'll tell you what.
00:27:22
Look, obviously, I'm gonna I'm gonna soak up anything.
00:27:25
Com Brady related.
00:27:27
To be honest, I I'm I'm I'm a big fan of Peyton Manning Post.
00:27:31
Ah, playing career.
00:27:33
Um, I appreciated his playing career.
00:27:35
I wasn't someone who irrationally hated him.
00:27:38
I hated him because he was arrival, but I respected his is obviously his ability and who he was as a quarterback.
00:27:44
Ah, post.
00:27:45
Ah, playing career.
00:27:46
Peyton Manning's great.
00:27:47
I think he's funny.
00:27:48
I think he's I mean, there's a reason why people are you know where find him easy toe like because, I mean, he's just he's he's a pretty funny got, You know what I mean? It is what it is like admitting for your Patriots fan just a minute.
00:28:01
And Peyton Manning's pretty fine.
00:28:02
And this whole this whole, um, this whole event was just It was fun.
00:28:07
It was really fun to see.
00:28:09
Ah, you know, four people that are at the very top of their professions obviously pains not playing anymore.
00:28:16
But no one's going to sit there and argue that he's not one of the best three quarterbacks in the league.
00:28:21
Maybe Drew Brees fans.
00:28:22
Maybe they'll sit there and try to tell you that he's not.
00:28:25
But that that's that's just absurd there.
00:28:27
Probably drinking.
00:28:28
But, uh, no most yeah, most definitely, you know easily.
00:28:32
Oh, yeah, Most definitely.
00:28:34
Uh, but it look it was entertaining.
00:28:37
Sell, um, from you know, Tom Brady ripping his pants and talking trash toe T Charles Barkley.
00:28:45
And just that the ribbing that the two of these guys go back and forth and it's funny because it puts things in perspective because you spend no, like, like me, you know, we're again.
00:28:56
We spent some of our early Ah, early ah, adult life watching these two go at it and I'm sure participating in many of, ah, bar stool tat's type conversation.
00:29:11
You know, sitting at the bar with your friends are sitting at the whatever discussing back and forth.
00:29:16
Who's better? Who's this? And you think back at all the all the vitriol and all the tension and all the heated debates.
00:29:24
And like in reality, these two guys are really good friends.
00:29:28
And it's it's funny because, uh, I mean, it's not funny, because when you think about it, when you have two people that were have been so good at their profession have such a history, there's just the ultimate mutual respect between the two and that's been there for a while, and you could really see it come out.
00:29:47
Um, you know, in this event, because again they were just kind of be in themselves, you know what I mean? And just being those hyper competitive guys that just all of a sudden fell right back into the ah, right back into the rivalry that that they had for so many years, and it was fun to kind of relive that.
00:30:07
Although albeit it wasn't in a football.
00:30:09
Ah, atmosphere.
00:30:10
It was It was more of a a casual game of golf for charity, But it was a lot of fun, and I enjoyed it for sure.
00:30:18
I e you know, rivals sports two sets of rivals, I should say, Yeah, really coming together.
00:30:28
But being able to, you know, being able t what deeper Garraty look bit comfortable amongst all of the four major competitors that you saw.
00:30:36
Whatever be Tiger, whether it be paid, whether it be Phil or whether it be Tom, these guys all respect one another, one another, and it came across.
00:30:46
There was a lot of the good natured bring the way that you wanted to see between all of these competitors that just came out and made this such a fun event a watch.
00:30:55
But ultimately, at the end of the day, you're talking like you said four people at the absolute top of your sport, coming together, doing something for charity, and they had made that money, got two people that really, really needed it.
00:31:07
And that's remarkable.
00:31:09
That's absolutely remarkable.
00:31:11
I still to this day cannot understand how people will sit up there and be snarky one way or another toward anyone of the feast for guys, for doing what they did on Sunday.
00:31:22
Just it baffles me.
00:31:23
It's beyond me.
00:31:24
It's snark for the sake of snark.
00:31:26
It's trying to convince people that because I plan for my, uh, criticize it because that's what I dio, you know, Look it over yourself.
00:31:37
$10 million for charity.
00:31:39
These guys had a great time.
00:31:41
People had a great time watching it.
00:31:42
And you know, they that they are most.
00:31:47
For the most part, they really are.
00:31:49
I mean, that's a select group, very few, but there are some out there that is still going to take their shots, and I think it's ridiculous.
00:31:55
But, you know, t do what you do for, you know, for charity and and toe make sure the people that right now needed most are getting the help that they need and being able to be entertained in the process.
00:32:07
It's a win win situation for everyone, and it was fun.
00:32:10
It was a fun competition to watch, you know, the time had some bad shots.
00:32:13
There's no question about it.
00:32:14
All of a sudden he hits a pretty good one, and everybody's like Harry comes again.
00:32:18
Come back, you do it, You know? So it's like it had that of of just that, that realism that you can't really secret I want when I want.
00:32:27
I kind of like this Tampa Tom, I'm not gonna lie.
00:32:30
He seems to have come out of a show a little bit here recently, and I don't think it's a coincidence, huh? You know, again, I I I think obviously he didn't he would never Ah, you know, sit there and say that the weight Belichick does things is wrong.
00:32:46
I think he realized that the way Belichick does things work.
00:32:49
So he's going to fall in line.
00:32:51
But like, look, you know, this is this is ah, later in life time, you know, he's he's loosening up a little bit.
00:32:57
He doesn't have that that ah, wait of always having toe watch what he says.
00:33:01
And and again, I'm not saying that that's the wrong thing to do.
00:33:04
Obviously have produced ah lot of success for him in the team.
00:33:08
I mean, that's there's no doubt about it, but like, you know, he seems to be a little bit looser now.
00:33:12
you know, he's he's doing these like, you know, the school.
00:33:15
I mean again, maybe this this could be quarantine related and the fact that everyone's kind of stuck in their house and all that, and, you know, he's no different, but, ah, you know, on Twitter he seems to be a little bit goofy.
00:33:25
Er, and maybe I'm just, you know, fooling myself here.
00:33:29
But I feel like the national view of him has shifted and it and it drives me absolutely crazy because it just proves to me that all this all this time of ds from holies people that will sit there.
00:33:39
And I mean, you're still gonna have the the folks on Twitter that we're gonna endlessly post pictures of him kissing his kid.
00:33:46
If that's like some sort of indictment on him.
00:33:49
I really I I guess I understand these people less than I thought, but, um, you know, you're still gonna get people that hate him, But I feel like this this, like, all of a sudden, this ESPN quote unquote view of him is turned into this like, Oh, it's goofy.
00:34:03
Tom Brady.
00:34:04
Oh, looking him. Do this.
00:34:05
Oh, look at you know Tom's doing this Tom ter, And it's just like I'm sitting here thinking to myself make you mother of beep like you guys you guys spent, you know, years, uh, you know, ripping them for every little thing he's ever said.
00:34:23
Every little Ah, I look and in all that and all of a sudden, like he's down in Tampa And now he's just like this, like, you know, I don't know.
00:34:33
You know what I mean? Am I the only one in mind? The only when it gets that impression, I feel like it shifted a little bit in the national sense.
00:34:39
I mean, the people hate him fan wise.
00:34:42
They're going to hate him regardless.
00:34:43
But I feel like it shifted a little bit my crazy.
00:34:46
I actually don't even if you're not crazy at all.
00:34:48
Well, well, not for this essay.
00:34:51
Other reasons I can't speak to that.
00:34:53
But no, All kidding aside, I know you're not crazy when it comes to that.
00:34:57
Um, the public perception the national perception of Tom Brady has changed.
00:35:01
I mean, you look at it now, as all of a sudden, it's like, Oh, it's OK, we can like him now.
00:35:06
because he doesn't have the Patriot way attached to him.
00:35:09
He doesn't have that 20 years of success attached to him.
00:35:13
Um, I think in a lot of ways, I think in Ah, in the Northeast, you're seeing it not so much from a fan standpoint, although there are some yahoos out there that, you know, claim that, you know, Tom Brady is dead to me and all that, which is ridiculous.
00:35:26
Um, if you are one of those states, it's just really honestly, if you're one of those, you really should just be blocking yourself.
00:35:34
If you're going to fault the guy, from whatever reason, he had to leave the New England Patriots.
00:35:41
It's his right to do that.
00:35:43
20 years of excellence will give you the right to do whatever you want to dio way saw exactly enough is enough.
00:35:52
And it's time for a change.
00:35:53
The late great on hard.
00:35:54
I love how you bring, You know we're good, like you always tie it in. It's great.
00:35:59
It's good stuff.
00:36:00
Well, I I think I have a very limited brain capacity.
00:36:04
So, like all these like topics, air kind of right in my wheelhouse.
00:36:07
So I give off the perception that I'm smart, but the thing is, it's really just easy connected.
00:36:13
You know what I'm saying? Like you think you're smart? Exactly.
00:36:17
See? Okay, I I was I was I was See, I think you're picking up on my tendencies because I was sitting there trying Teoh, What's what's the good word? Ah, Delay.
00:36:29
Um what you know exactly exactly Like, you know, you're as I continue to delay and pause and sit there and wait to find out People think I'm smart.
00:36:43
Finally, I'm telling you, I have to. I have Teoh.
00:36:47
I was thinking about doing it this weekend, and I'm gonna have to do it this week because there's a lot more that one ad, but I have to I have to ah, get far more organized on my soundboard, my soundboard.
00:36:59
Ah, program because, you know, it started out like super organized where I was like, OK, I'm gonna I'm gonna break this up by, uh but, you know, I have it organized.
00:37:08
Some sheets have multiple TV shows on it.
00:37:10
All that stuff.
00:37:12
And then then all of a sudden I just got lazy.
00:37:14
So now I have sound set.
00:37:15
Sounds that two sounds at 37 set for sounds.
00:37:19
Five.
00:37:20
And I'm just like I have no idea what's on any of these, so I gotta scramble to find it.
00:37:24
So unfortunately, that has to happen.
00:37:28
No people looking smart, but he's not.
00:37:32
They will think he's smart, but but, no, I mean getting back to Brady and getting back to ah man, the public perception.
00:37:40
Yeah, I think in a lot of ways I think what you're seeing up here in New England again, not so much from the fan base, say, for a few, but the media.
00:37:48
You're starting to see a lot of that.
00:37:49
All of a sudden it's all of a sudden it's like the They feel like the shackles are off and they can take their jabs at Brady.
00:37:56
You know, for whatever for whether it be this event or whether it be the the upcoming man in the Arena video do***entary set that's coming out.
00:38:04
I know a lot of people are looking to well, you know, dump all over him for that.
00:38:08
Well, you know what? Get over the fact that Tom didn't give you an interview while you were here.
00:38:12
You know, Maybe if you treated him better, maybe he would have been a little bit more apt to give you a little bit more information.
00:38:19
Now.
00:38:20
Instead, you tried to, you know, flex your you know, your your muscle.
00:38:22
Well, you know, five foot three inches tall of you.
00:38:25
So yes, yes, a couple of people that I'm criticizing.
00:38:28
I'm definitely I'm actually taller then.
00:38:30
So, like, it went off. Mike Leake short.
00:38:33
And no, folks, I do not mean Mike Reiss, who I respect above all else and I loved out of that is one of the greatest in the world, greatest in the world.
00:38:41
I'm not talking about Mike because we know Mike is one of the very few people in the world that you can lose a battle of fight with me.
00:38:48
But he's not the one I'm talking about, but no, in all actual and really I mean, you know, get get over it, really get over it.
00:38:56
Stopping the jilted lover because it's really it's not.
00:38:59
It's not an attractive look, and it just makes you look petty and make sure what said, but yeah, but ultimately again.
00:39:06
Yeah, that erosion of Brady's that erosion of Brady's character, I think you know, are you know, Brady's public perception.
00:39:14
Ah, lot of that is because it's he's not a threat New England anymore.
00:39:18
But you know, we'll see what we'll see what happens.
00:39:21
He starts winning games in Tampa.
00:39:22
I think people that those old feelings are gonna come back.
00:39:25
Well, I I think there is a little bit of wishful thinking to Some people have convinced themselves that yes, maybe he isn't the same quarterback, but guess what he is.
00:39:32
And again I will.
00:39:34
That would be the biggest victory lap that I've ever taken in my life next year when when he's sitting there on one of the ah, one of the few M v P candidates and potentially winning an MPP because he's down there with that offensive crew and people are just what are they going to say? But, you know, the thing is, a lot of that hate and aggressiveness towards him is coming from the Boston media, which isn't a surprise because the segment that I'm talking about was was doing this to him when he was here, but the example great example, and this was a issue or ah topic that? Ah, I got into a conversation with some of those, um com.
00:40:10
Brady is dead to me, folks, you know.
00:40:12
Ah, but ah, Dan Shaughnessy.
00:40:15
Surprise! Surprise! Wrote a story.
00:40:18
Um, it was titled something about Tom Brady being tone deaf because of the supplement that that he released recently.
00:40:26
And I'm just sitting here thinking like, see, this is an example of, like, just get over it.
00:40:30
Dan Shaughnessy, Ben Volin.
00:40:31
You guys the globe, get over it.
00:40:34
Used gone like you're sitting here harping.
00:40:36
I mean, making such a big deal out of something so stupid.
00:40:39
You know how many athletes and celebrities go up and hock these, uh, immune system boosters and vitamins and all those crap that is not regulated by the FDA? That's not like it's all over the place.
00:40:53
But to them, they look at Tom Brady is being the only guy to do it. And I call on him.
00:40:58
Ah, this that and the other.
00:40:59
And it's just like it.
00:41:00
Just stop it.
00:41:01
Just stop it.
00:41:02
You're clearly using him as a crutch and and if it if it hasn't been evident the last several years through your coverage of the guy It's very clear that this is your one stick.
00:41:12
And it's sad for a guy like Dan Shaughnessy, who does have, uh oh, are did have a somewhat good, really good reputation in the city and and in the journalism world altogether.
00:41:23
I think he was, you know, at a time I mean, there's still people out there that you know Well, you know, think of him in very high regard.
00:41:30
Mostly other Globe members, Um, but in reality, he's become a of character.
00:41:37
A character.
00:41:38
Yeah, Jesus.
00:41:40
I was got the world stowed without saying Ah, used a word that I can't say, but yeah, you know what I have seen a carrot character, Whatever.
00:41:49
Take it away.
00:41:50
Might say, You know, it's true and I agree with you and a lot of ways.
00:41:54
I think it's because of the type of journalism quote unquote that you're seeing.
00:41:59
It's not investigative.
00:42:01
It's not insightful anymore.
00:42:02
I mean, Dan was always controversial.
00:42:04
I mean, they're athletes that, you know, during the eighties that absolutely could not stomach the sight of a guy, and in a lot of ways, you know, you're doing your job properly.
00:42:12
If you're ****ing people off because you're touching nerves, you're getting into the intricacies of what needs to be total.
00:42:18
But in a lot of ways, what Dan was doing was he was bringing stories that needed to be told from the forefront inner workings of the team, things that were going on, things that we're putting things on the field of play or the court or whatever.
00:42:30
He was bringing these things to light, and a lot of people had problems with that.
00:42:35
And unfortunately, in that respect, I do so with him because he was doing a job.
00:42:41
What you're seeing now is commentary social commentary on I understand that's what a column this does, folks.
00:42:47
I'm not saying that that's not what he does, but it all seems to be a bit tabloidish at times, and that's why he's becoming a character, church and deliberate. Exactly.
00:42:56
It's part of a predictable anyone, exactly, and anyone who thinks it's not part of an agenda.
00:43:02
Well, you know, I have some beachfront property out by again that I'd like Teoh to sell.
00:43:07
You know, I'm only kidding.
00:43:08
I'm only kidding.
00:43:09
He lives in the next section, waiting.
00:43:11
There's no swamp, there's no swamp in No, no, no.
00:43:14
That's Ah, I don't know.
00:43:16
That sets the northern part of this.
00:43:17
I don't think I do not venture out of my bubble here.
00:43:21
Um, I'm across the bridge on the other side of Tampa Bay.
00:43:24
I rarely cross that bridge.
00:43:26
Um, so I I'm kind of in my own little world down here in safety.
00:43:30
I won't.
00:43:31
I won't go to swamp land.
00:43:32
I will live anywhere else.
00:43:33
That's this is this is where I like to be is right down here, but, um but no, it.
00:43:37
But again, like you said, um, there is a time and a place for that type of journalism.
00:43:42
And look, you know, if if, if someone again that didn't, you know, make a career are more recent career out of knocking the guy, or at least literally ah, whole paper is committed to every little, you know, criticizing every little for thing.
00:43:58
And and this isn't me being, you know, being ah, you know, over exaggerating. This is true.
00:44:04
I mean, it's predictable, and that's the problem.
00:44:06
It's like, you know, you saw you saw the piece.
00:44:08
You didn't even have to know who wrote it.
00:44:09
You saw the headline, and you're like, Oh, this Dan Shaughnessy.
00:44:12
Oh, you click.
00:44:13
OK, dancer, Honestly, it's OK.
00:44:14
It's, Ah, December late December early January, and their tomato can article right on time.
00:44:21
Right on cue.
00:44:22
It's the exact same thing over and over again, and it's like he may think it's cute and funny, and it's like, Oh, I'm Dan Shaughnessy this any other? But no, it's it's tiring and it's lazy, and it's really just bad journalism.
00:44:31
And and And look, the Globe is getting a reputation for that for for the way they cover sport, especially in this town.
00:44:38
And it's very evident that they have an agenda.
00:44:40
And that's the problem with with some of these things.
00:44:43
So right, we're gonna We're gonna obviously talk more about that throughout the week.
00:44:47
We're going to talk more about the NHL plan to ah, phase back into play.
00:44:52
And of course, there's plenty of other topics for us to talk about.
00:44:55
So Oh, yeah, I wanted to end on this today.
00:44:57
I don't know why I was just feeling that I was thinking Gang grill all day today, man. Wow.
00:45:02
Yeah, I know, I know. That's what bank.
00:45:04
Oh, yeah, one of the best intros ever.
00:45:06
I mean, this is was a great great theme song.
00:45:11
See, you feel it.
00:45:12
So, folks, thank you very much for tuning in.
00:45:15
Once again.
00:45:16
If you catch the show late, definitely.
00:45:17
Check out the podcast.
00:45:18
You can check out the replay on SportsCastr SportsCastr dot com slash FTC And, of course, give us a follow at FBC Radio Live I am at I g l e n 31.
00:45:28
He is at empty A B A T e f p c folks, we'll see you tomorrow.
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the following takes place between 8 a.
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m. and 9 a.m.
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Good morning, everybody.
00:05:35
And welcome back to F P C radio live after a long weekend a three day weekend We're back rockin and a rolling So I'm not gonna waste too much time You know who I am? My name is the England and that's right, I am.
00:05:47
I am the one who sits in this chair every every morning and and, uh, uh, tries to help put on a show for you, and I can't do that without, you know, my partner here in the reason why I can't do that is because I don't like talking for an hour straight, and I really run out of things to say so I can least bounce it off to to my guy Mike, who can at least fill in the gaps for me.
00:06:07
So, Mr King of filling in the gaps. That's right.
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He is.
00:06:12
Mr Mike Debate Mike, I really don't know if that was an insult or Matt, But how we doing today? Not, uh you know what? At this point, introductions are always good.
00:06:26
I'll take him, no matter how I could get them so I don't take it as a personal knock.
00:06:29
I take it as a compliment, and I think we'll run from their man because I'm here to fill in the gaps after all.
00:06:36
Yeah, you go.
00:06:37
And, like I said, just like a little wedge or just like a little Ah, split little peg.
00:06:42
I mean, Okay, now I think I am getting to the point where I'm its hope that you and I really don't mean to.
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I'm just I'm trying to come up with creative ways of introducing you to to kill a few seconds off the show.
00:06:52
So, um, I'll work on that.
00:06:54
I'm going to, um I'm going to go to my wrestling manager.
00:06:58
He'll school s so I can learn all the techniques that were that are, you know, that are relevant to this, and, you know, hopefully help me improve.
00:07:08
I'll study some of the greats, you know, we know we're talking about the videos.
00:07:13
Videos of Bobby Heenan.
00:07:15
Probably some of the best that you Oh, yes.
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Oh, yeah. No.
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And, um, you know, that's something.
00:07:21
Ah, that's something I do.
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Regardless of whether or not I'm tryingto introduce you, I just You know.
00:07:26
That's just fun.
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Fun to watch.
00:07:29
So, um, we We missed something, though.
00:07:31
The other day.
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Um, actually, this was this was, like, six days ago, So Ah, yeah, last Wednesday and I kept meaning to bring it up, bring it up, bring it up.
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But, uh, you know, I again, you know, like it.
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So we got a lot to get to sometimes.
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So, you know, again, you know, sometimes things, you know, hit the hit the, you know, hit the back burner.
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But I do want to mention it before comes becomes too late.
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But the 20th was the tragic anniversary.
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Nine years since death.
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Mr.
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Macho Man, Randy Sa***e.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yes.
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So I went and, you know, that's the thing that happened right down the street from where I am right now.
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Currently, that's actually driven by the area that that it happened.
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E um, if anyone obviously knows, he had a heart attack while driving and basically died before he crashed the car, I believe.
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Ah, and again a lot of it to me how having to do with steroids, much like many of these wrestlers of the eighties and nineties that that we talk about all the time.
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There's no coincidence that a lot of them have died at a young age, especially the macho man's, the recruits the, you know, ultimate words, all these guys that ultimately had terrible heart conditions and and was brought on by years and years of steroid abuse.
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But, um, you know, macho man, we obviously we speak to him all the time about him all the time and very glowing and positive manner, because again, it's one of our, you know, both of large, fair favorite wrestlers of that time period.
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And he was just a very electric personality. Was certainly.
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Ah, certainly sad that, Ah, that he would.
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He was one of those statistics in the wrestling world.
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You know, one of those guys that just died far too young, please rise to the top.
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Yeah, he really was.
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He really was.
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Randy was just brilliant.
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It was just a brilliant performer.
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And not only was he brilliant on the microphone, he had charisma.
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He had electricity whenever he spoke any words.
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But he was amazing in the ring as well, something that I think differentiated him even from a guy like whole Coke and who was obviously the biggest star that wrestling has ever produce.
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Well, I guess I guess maybe you could make the argument that doing the rock Johnson has become bigger in the term of the mainstream.
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First, when you when you talk about wrestling per se when you talk about WWF, someone mentions the letters W W f w w e even WCW first image you have.
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It's pretty much all Coke and Hulk Hogan A maybe Ric Flair.
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But if you look at Hogan to me, I think the dominance that he had in both of those companies sets him apart.
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But Randy had the ability to entertain in the ring like no one else.
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He had the athletic ability, the ability to leap from the top row, pop over the ropes, you know, mix it up. He could be a hell.
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He could be a other the best of good guys.
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He really had a charisma to him that was just unique, and it's a style of his that was very unique as well.
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So, you know, nine years ago, it's it's tough to believe I still remember.
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You know, the day that I heard that and just you know, yet another piece of publishing yet another piece of of, um, you know, my childhood, another piece of history of w w history going down, and it just it's it's tough to see these guys passed on before their time.
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Um, yeah, that was a tough one, because Randy was someone that I grew up always, always enjoying toe watch, no matter what side of the coin that he was on, whether he was a hell or whether he was a face.
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You always find yourself rooting for Randy Sa***e.
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Um, and he was obviously growing up.
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You did a lot of women over wrestling watching with my dad.
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Wasn't a big fan of wrestling before I got into it, but I started to get in interested in that.
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And Randy Sa***e was always one of his favorites.
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He just loved this charisma.
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He loved his wit.
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Ah, the way he delivered lines was just It was It was second to none.
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And he is He is sorely, sorely missed.
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Yeah, May is a tough month for ah, for wrestling deaths we think about, you know, Elizabeth Hewlett.
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Uh, Miss Elizabeth was lost in the month of May as well.
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And another anniversary that happened over the weekend, which is one of the most polarizing wrestling losses in the history of professional wrestling, was on May 23rd.
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And that's the loss of own heart and actually believe it or not relevant within the other.
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The current framework, because recently, beyond the mat was our website under the on the mat was a different times A charm.
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Thank you.
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Beyond the bad beyond the ropes Dark side of the ring I'll get there.
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Uh, they they had a ah ah do***entary Where Martha Heart For the first time in a long time, I got a chance to tell her side of the story.
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And whether you agree with her side, whether you agree with WWF's retort, you know, you could just agree that both sides are, you know, still feeling the effects.
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Still feeling the devastating loss from a guy, by all accounts, who was one of the great guys in the business? One.
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I've never heard one wrestler have a bad word to say about all heart, and I think that really, you know, not even his brother can say that there are a lot of you know there are a lot of people out there that are detractors of bread hard or detractors of different wrestling personalities.
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You've heard someone pretty much have something to say about just about everybody in the world of professional wrestling.
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It's really not a, um, a business where you you you do make a lot of close friends, but you can make some enemies as well.
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It sounded like Owen didn't have an enemy in the world and that that's tough.
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When you lose a guy that is that positive and has that many positive effects on that many lives, it's it's just that's it's tough to what a dake.
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So, um, yeah, that one.
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That one was really when I took a look at the you know, the amount of years and how long it's been.
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Uh uh.
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That almost surprised to me that there really is a wake up call for how quickly time flies well, in and again.
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I mean, that's something I haven't had a chance to watch the do***entary yet.
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I was planning on.
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Yeah, I mean, I knew it was coming out.
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I just again, you know, sometimes you just don't have the time and that's that's one of those things where I I want to sit down and give it my undivided attention.
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Like, you know, I spend a lot of time here working at home and on the computer and, you know, watch TV in the background.
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But they don't generally ah, watch anything new just because, I mean, it would require me sitting there and actually watching the video.
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And I really, you know, for the most part, I can't do that.
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Um, you know, for example, I started watching season to a 24 last night just because it was just, you know, I It's one of those things, you know, before we go off on a you know, 24 tangent.
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Um, you know, that whole event you think you think about the cir***stances I think about the name of the dam event over the edge, like Jesus.
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Like, I mean, it's no wonder that this this whole event in this whole scenario is just one of those thes unfortunate dark marks in the history of W w E.
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And it was just It was so tragic and t o be there.
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I mean, I can't imagine having been there.
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And look, this was Ah, was 97 right? 97.
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I should have looked this up before I said it, but, you know, 99 99.
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Yeah, right. Right.
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Okay.
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Yeah, you're right.
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So late nineties, um, over the edge. 1999.
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I mean, that there wasn't Twitter.
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There wasn't, you know, weren't taking their cell phones.
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I mean, people even have cell phones.
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I mean, maybe maybe had a car phone.
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One of those clunky things in the middle of your Ah, your your station wagon.
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You know, those, like, family vehicles? The head feels like, I mean, actual car phones.
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Which again, for those younger folks out there, there's there was an actual wired phone inside the middle console of of a older vehicle.
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Sometimes station wagon, minivans, you know, family type cars, but with a gigantic 10.
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Yeah, well, that, you know, you could, uh, looks like you could go fishing off the back end of your car with sales.
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And that is exactly so.
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Um, but yeah.
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So it was just It was Ah, you know, it's just incredibly just tragic, period.
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And, you know, if you're like me, I I always get lost in the I guess, the just the endless thought process of Okay, what was going through his mind during it, You know what I mean? And it's like it's more of it and it's like, you know, But that's part of the human psyche.
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And that's what you you know, that that's what attracts people to crime do***entaries.
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And, you know, people who are Ah ah, upset.
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I don't want to say obsessed, but, like, you know, enjoy Ah, do***entaries on like serial killers, you know, because you want to get into the human psyche and that's you know, that's part of it, too.
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There's a there's a This is a different aspect of it because you're trying to imagine what someone's thinking.
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Ah, immediately prior and during what ultimately his his final moments.
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And and it's when you start thinking about that, you go down that rabbit hole and you think about the scenario, and you're like, How could I mean, how did this all unfolded? It's it's, you know, it's at the end of day.
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It's sad, and like you said, I mean 2021 years, I mean, that's that. That's wild.
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That's that's absolutely What? That's a long time.
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Yeah, and that one still feels fresh.
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I mean, I remember I actually was not, Um Ah.
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I actually was in the middle of college when that happened, and I was just I was just stunned, you know, when I when I heard that.
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And I You know, it's one of those things where you never really appreciate the type of performer that Owen was until he was gone.
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Um, you know, there were a lot of people out there.
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I'm sure I was one of them that always found his character a little annoying.
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But you always were entertained by him.
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You couldn't quite put your you.
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You put your finger on it as to why, and then you go back and you look at some of the matches and you look at what? What a map technician He was, how great he was through the air, how great he was even wrestling on the ground.
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Now you see a lot of the heart training, but he broke out a lot of that and really was, I think away from if people looked at him objectively, he had really broken away from his brother's shadow.
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Maybe not in terms of the public persona.
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I think everybody always looked at him, his Bretz little brother.
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But if you just looked at him with the way he was able to perform in the ring, he was a different type of performer than his brother used The sharpshooter, I know, but there's a lot of nuances of the way he he worked in the ring that were different from the way Brett did.
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And again, I haven't seen the do***entary.
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I did hear about it naturally.
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I mean, I know it took me three tries to get the name of the do***entary company, right, But I did watch the addendum, and I don't buy may be in the minority here, but I have watched the addendum of the do***entary that Bret Hart did on any long time ago during the Montreal screw job, which was Hit Man Hart wrestling with shadows.
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And they didnt addendum to that.
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I'm not sure if a lot of people know that about the death of own heart and about how the people around him learned of that and what their opinions were, and I understand **** Foley is interviewed in the dark side of the ring version.
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He was interviewed in the, um, the Hitman Hart do***entary that I saw as well, and to hear **** describe that being first hand and being actually there when it happened is chilling.
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Really? Really.
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It's chilling.
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I mean, you put yourselves in the position of thes wrestlers that were there.
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Ah, that had no idea what to do, how to react, how to carry on.
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And they had to just, you know, you start their bootstraps and go back out is horrifying.
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And it's heartbreaking.
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And look, I know there are a lot of people that the polarizing part of this is whether Vince should have continued the show or not.
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Um, I don't think there's an easy answer to that question.
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To be honest with you, I think I think there is now, to be honest, Yeah.
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I mean, I think we look back in hindsight, were like, You know what? That the W W.
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Is the ultimate example of the show must go on in every situation.
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I mean, look at it now.
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I mean, it hasn't missed a beat since, you know, in a different, you know, different cir***stances, but you know, Vince's always been, you know, Look, the show must go on, and in a way, I mean, it's it's it may be the best for out.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I think in a lot of ways, I think people need to remember that this was something that was, you know, it was unanticipated.
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It was unprecedented.
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I mean, you know, especially in the well, Mum of professional wrestling.
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The way we know it today.
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That's the only time I know of that Someone had perished in the ring where there was a true serious health concern about someone while they were in the ring on live pay per view television in front of an audience of 20,000 orm.
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Or how do you make that call? I mean, how do you make that call? You just send everybody home.
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I mean, you just it's so tough to do when I think a lot of people love to Monday morning quarterback when it comes to this.
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So Oh, Vince, German never should have done this.
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He never should've continued the show. It's disgusting.
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It's barbaric.
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I mean, I wouldn't feel I I wouldn't have knocked Vince for not continuing the show.
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I think there's a lot that there's a lot of an argument that could be made for him not doing it, but at the same time, like you said, he's the type of guy.
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He's the type of owner that is going toe.
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Always air on the side of the show must go on, and this is what has to be done.
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I think in a lot of ways he stayed true to that.
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I don't think you can necessarily fault him for it.
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And again, I'm not on the other end of that.
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I'm not going through with Martha and and Oh Jin Athena owns Children, went through knowing that their father was never coming home, and that's that's a very difficult position.
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I mean, I've I've lost my own dad, but it wasn't through the fault of anyone else.
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It was through, you know, unfortunately, health, you know, issue that was just unforeseen and it was very sudden and very traumatic.
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But at the same time, I wasn't looking for toe lay the blame on anyone that wasn't because of negligence or anything like that.
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So there's a lot of feelings that could be had when it comes to someone, like all in and the death that he experienced.
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But at this point, you know, to sit there and to definitively say, Well, then should have done this and should have done that.
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I still believe that the jury to me, I still think it's still out.
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And I don't think you can fault him for the decision that he made, especially under the cir***stances.
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That's not an easy decision to make a snap decision right there and be able to make the right one.
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No. And then Yeah, exactly.
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And in.
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Look, I I think I think you did the right thing.
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I mean, and, you know, again they've become known for for, you know, honoring, you know, their fallen stars and everything like that.
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And we've seen far too many of these tribute shows, and and you know that that have, you know, spurred out of the, you know, just if he And if you remember, too if you remember, um, September 11th.
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Ah, that obviously that happened.
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That was on a Wednesday.
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So the very they were one of the If I remember correctly, they were the first or one of the first live events that take place after that because they didn't.
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If I remember correctly, they did not miss.
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They did not miss a show.
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Um, we know the NFL pushed back everything a week.
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So you missed.
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Ah, weekend of NFL football.
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I think baseball obviously, uh, paused everything for a little bit.
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But, ah, I I have a very vivid memory memory of, um, Vince and that the WWI crew coming out, you know, the whole all of them, you know, they do the thing where they stand up on the stage.
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They've done this for tributes.
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They've done this for, you know, tragic deaths, anything like that.
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And, ah, you know, they come up and they talk from the harder they talk about How you know this is this is who we are.
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This is what we're gonna do and look, you know, that's that's fence.
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He's always been that person.
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And, um, you know, in a way, it's it's it's quite admirable because, you know, a sad as a lot of these things are the reality of it is life keeps going almost said life finds a way just out of reach out about a just reaction but like are just habit, but no, but really, you know, life has to go on.
00:23:48
So it's like at some point, you do have to get on, you know, with normalcy.
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So in his eyes, he does it right away and and look, And some people may not like it, but at the end of day, it's not a big deal.
00:24:01
And I I think, um, you know, they you know, like, when When? You know, at the time when Chris Benoit died and they didn't know the details that, you know, the very next day, you know, they were out there, Everyone was paying tribute to him.
00:24:14
Same with Eddie Guerrero.
00:24:15
And you talk about the ultimate warrior.
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Who again, we all you know this in more recent history.
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Remember his ah, somewhat ah, celebrated return after years away from the W w E and fighting and getting up there.
00:24:29
And I Look, I remember watching not only, uh, obviously WrestleMania, but like watching him on broad that next night, I'm just like I remember, actually.
00:24:40
You know what? I I think I was sitting there with our with our good mutual friend.
00:24:43
What they're like, Wow, this guy looks like he's gonna have a heart attack.
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And, yeah, 12 hours later, you know, And and that's the thing.
00:24:52
It's like sometimes you know, the signs.
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You you say it, you know, kind of not jokingly, but you know what I mean? And kind of like, Oh, look at him.
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He's beet red in the face.
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He looks like he's gonna He's gonna pop.
00:25:02
Well, in that case, feet he did.
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And it's sad.
00:25:05
But, you know, at this point, it's almost not surprising with some of these guys because we realize you know what they were doing to themselves, to put themselves through this.
00:25:15
And you mentioned, you know, you mentioned Randy Sa***e and his ah, athleticism, and that really wasn't the norm back then.
00:25:22
You had guys, you know, throughout the history of W W E a.
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Jimmy Superfly Snuka.
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He comes to mind very quickly about a guy who could really, you know, high flying, you know, a lot of athleticism and that sense.
00:25:36
But, you know, the stars of the eighties and early nineties they weren't the best quote unquote wrestlers.
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I mean, they weren't tacticians, they weren't.
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You know, guys, that we're gonna go in and do these incredible things in the ring.
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They were just larger than life characters with personalities and and, ah, physique.
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Pretty much.
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I mean, that was that was the image, and Randy was that for sure.
00:26:00
But like you said, he was always, always athletic and and kind of surprised you for a big man.
00:26:06
But the point is, those guys were that size for a reason, and that reason was a lot of them used steroids.
00:26:14
And we know now some of the long term effects that it has on your health and primarily your your heart and everything like that.
00:26:22
So, um, you know, it's not surprising when you see these guys passed away like this.
00:26:27
Obviously, you know, the whole own heart thing is it's different.
00:26:30
And that's a you know, if you know, obviously hindsight, it's avoidable tragedy, but at the time it was unavoidable.
00:26:36
Um, so you know, it is It can be depressing, because again, you and I both grew up watching these watching these guys and and and and see, you know, seem like one by one, just kind of drop off.
00:26:49
And you know, when we sit here and have a conversation about wrestlers and then it dawns on you like Oh, yeah, the trade.
00:26:55
This guy's dead and it happens all too often waiting too often when we're talking about wrestling.
00:27:00
So but we're not gonna do that anymore for the rest of day.
00:27:04
Here, at least you know, are trying not to, because we only have about 19 minutes left and we do have a couple of things to get Teoh 1st 1st the Gulf matchup of the century, um, took place this weekend and that was, Ah, Peyton Manning and Tiger Woods.
00:27:19
Ah, against Tom Brady and Phil ****elson.
00:27:21
And I'll tell you what.
00:27:22
Look, obviously, I'm gonna I'm gonna soak up anything.
00:27:25
Com Brady related.
00:27:27
To be honest, I I'm I'm I'm a big fan of Peyton Manning Post.
00:27:31
Ah, playing career.
00:27:33
Um, I appreciated his playing career.
00:27:35
I wasn't someone who irrationally hated him.
00:27:38
I hated him because he was arrival, but I respected his is obviously his ability and who he was as a quarterback.
00:27:44
Ah, post.
00:27:45
Ah, playing career.
00:27:46
Peyton Manning's great.
00:27:47
I think he's funny.
00:27:48
I think he's I mean, there's a reason why people are you know where find him easy toe like because, I mean, he's just he's he's a pretty funny got, You know what I mean? It is what it is like admitting for your Patriots fan just a minute.
00:28:01
And Peyton Manning's pretty fine.
00:28:02
And this whole this whole, um, this whole event was just It was fun.
00:28:07
It was really fun to see.
00:28:09
Ah, you know, four people that are at the very top of their professions obviously pains not playing anymore.
00:28:16
But no one's going to sit there and argue that he's not one of the best three quarterbacks in the league.
00:28:21
Maybe Drew Brees fans.
00:28:22
Maybe they'll sit there and try to tell you that he's not.
00:28:25
But that that's that's just absurd there.
00:28:27
Probably drinking.
00:28:28
But, uh, no most yeah, most definitely, you know easily.
00:28:32
Oh, yeah, Most definitely.
00:28:34
Uh, but it look it was entertaining.
00:28:37
Sell, um, from you know, Tom Brady ripping his pants and talking trash toe T Charles Barkley.
00:28:45
And just that the ribbing that the two of these guys go back and forth and it's funny because it puts things in perspective because you spend no, like, like me, you know, we're again.
00:28:56
We spent some of our early Ah, early ah, adult life watching these two go at it and I'm sure participating in many of, ah, bar stool tat's type conversation.
00:29:11
You know, sitting at the bar with your friends are sitting at the whatever discussing back and forth.
00:29:16
Who's better? Who's this? And you think back at all the all the vitriol and all the tension and all the heated debates.
00:29:24
And like in reality, these two guys are really good friends.
00:29:28
And it's it's funny because, uh, I mean, it's not funny, because when you think about it, when you have two people that were have been so good at their profession have such a history, there's just the ultimate mutual respect between the two and that's been there for a while, and you could really see it come out.
00:29:47
Um, you know, in this event, because again they were just kind of be in themselves, you know what I mean? And just being those hyper competitive guys that just all of a sudden fell right back into the ah, right back into the rivalry that that they had for so many years, and it was fun to kind of relive that.
00:30:07
Although albeit it wasn't in a football.
00:30:09
Ah, atmosphere.
00:30:10
It was It was more of a a casual game of golf for charity, But it was a lot of fun, and I enjoyed it for sure.
00:30:18
I e you know, rivals sports two sets of rivals, I should say, Yeah, really coming together.
00:30:28
But being able to, you know, being able t what deeper Garraty look bit comfortable amongst all of the four major competitors that you saw.
00:30:36
Whatever be Tiger, whether it be paid, whether it be Phil or whether it be Tom, these guys all respect one another, one another, and it came across.
00:30:46
There was a lot of the good natured bring the way that you wanted to see between all of these competitors that just came out and made this such a fun event a watch.
00:30:55
But ultimately, at the end of the day, you're talking like you said four people at the absolute top of your sport, coming together, doing something for charity, and they had made that money, got two people that really, really needed it.
00:31:07
And that's remarkable.
00:31:09
That's absolutely remarkable.
00:31:11
I still to this day cannot understand how people will sit up there and be snarky one way or another toward anyone of the feast for guys, for doing what they did on Sunday.
00:31:22
Just it baffles me.
00:31:23
It's beyond me.
00:31:24
It's snark for the sake of snark.
00:31:26
It's trying to convince people that because I plan for my, uh, criticize it because that's what I dio, you know, Look it over yourself.
00:31:37
$10 million for charity.
00:31:39
These guys had a great time.
00:31:41
People had a great time watching it.
00:31:42
And you know, they that they are most.
00:31:47
For the most part, they really are.
00:31:49
I mean, that's a select group, very few, but there are some out there that is still going to take their shots, and I think it's ridiculous.
00:31:55
But, you know, t do what you do for, you know, for charity and and toe make sure the people that right now needed most are getting the help that they need and being able to be entertained in the process.
00:32:07
It's a win win situation for everyone, and it was fun.
00:32:10
It was a fun competition to watch, you know, the time had some bad shots.
00:32:13
There's no question about it.
00:32:14
All of a sudden he hits a pretty good one, and everybody's like Harry comes again.
00:32:18
Come back, you do it, You know? So it's like it had that of of just that, that realism that you can't really secret I want when I want.
00:32:27
I kind of like this Tampa Tom, I'm not gonna lie.
00:32:30
He seems to have come out of a show a little bit here recently, and I don't think it's a coincidence, huh? You know, again, I I I think obviously he didn't he would never Ah, you know, sit there and say that the weight Belichick does things is wrong.
00:32:46
I think he realized that the way Belichick does things work.
00:32:49
So he's going to fall in line.
00:32:51
But like, look, you know, this is this is ah, later in life time, you know, he's he's loosening up a little bit.
00:32:57
He doesn't have that that ah, wait of always having toe watch what he says.
00:33:01
And and again, I'm not saying that that's the wrong thing to do.
00:33:04
Obviously have produced ah lot of success for him in the team.
00:33:08
I mean, that's there's no doubt about it, but like, you know, he seems to be a little bit looser now.
00:33:12
you know, he's he's doing these like, you know, the school.
00:33:15
I mean again, maybe this this could be quarantine related and the fact that everyone's kind of stuck in their house and all that, and, you know, he's no different, but, ah, you know, on Twitter he seems to be a little bit goofy.
00:33:25
Er, and maybe I'm just, you know, fooling myself here.
00:33:29
But I feel like the national view of him has shifted and it and it drives me absolutely crazy because it just proves to me that all this all this time of ds from holies people that will sit there.
00:33:39
And I mean, you're still gonna have the the folks on Twitter that we're gonna endlessly post pictures of him kissing his kid.
00:33:46
If that's like some sort of indictment on him.
00:33:49
I really I I guess I understand these people less than I thought, but, um, you know, you're still gonna get people that hate him, But I feel like this this, like, all of a sudden, this ESPN quote unquote view of him is turned into this like, Oh, it's goofy.
00:34:03
Tom Brady.
00:34:04
Oh, looking him. Do this.
00:34:05
Oh, look at you know Tom's doing this Tom ter, And it's just like I'm sitting here thinking to myself make you mother of beep like you guys you guys spent, you know, years, uh, you know, ripping them for every little thing he's ever said.
00:34:23
Every little Ah, I look and in all that and all of a sudden, like he's down in Tampa And now he's just like this, like, you know, I don't know.
00:34:33
You know what I mean? Am I the only one in mind? The only when it gets that impression, I feel like it shifted a little bit in the national sense.
00:34:39
I mean, the people hate him fan wise.
00:34:42
They're going to hate him regardless.
00:34:43
But I feel like it shifted a little bit my crazy.
00:34:46
I actually don't even if you're not crazy at all.
00:34:48
Well, well, not for this essay.
00:34:51
Other reasons I can't speak to that.
00:34:53
But no, All kidding aside, I know you're not crazy when it comes to that.
00:34:57
Um, the public perception the national perception of Tom Brady has changed.
00:35:01
I mean, you look at it now, as all of a sudden, it's like, Oh, it's OK, we can like him now.
00:35:06
because he doesn't have the Patriot way attached to him.
00:35:09
He doesn't have that 20 years of success attached to him.
00:35:13
Um, I think in a lot of ways, I think in Ah, in the Northeast, you're seeing it not so much from a fan standpoint, although there are some yahoos out there that, you know, claim that, you know, Tom Brady is dead to me and all that, which is ridiculous.
00:35:26
Um, if you are one of those states, it's just really honestly, if you're one of those, you really should just be blocking yourself.
00:35:34
If you're going to fault the guy, from whatever reason, he had to leave the New England Patriots.
00:35:41
It's his right to do that.
00:35:43
20 years of excellence will give you the right to do whatever you want to dio way saw exactly enough is enough.
00:35:52
And it's time for a change.
00:35:53
The late great on hard.
00:35:54
I love how you bring, You know we're good, like you always tie it in. It's great.
00:35:59
It's good stuff.
00:36:00
Well, I I think I have a very limited brain capacity.
00:36:04
So, like all these like topics, air kind of right in my wheelhouse.
00:36:07
So I give off the perception that I'm smart, but the thing is, it's really just easy connected.
00:36:13
You know what I'm saying? Like you think you're smart? Exactly.
00:36:17
See? Okay, I I was I was I was See, I think you're picking up on my tendencies because I was sitting there trying Teoh, What's what's the good word? Ah, Delay.
00:36:29
Um what you know exactly exactly Like, you know, you're as I continue to delay and pause and sit there and wait to find out People think I'm smart.
00:36:43
Finally, I'm telling you, I have to. I have Teoh.
00:36:47
I was thinking about doing it this weekend, and I'm gonna have to do it this week because there's a lot more that one ad, but I have to I have to ah, get far more organized on my soundboard, my soundboard.
00:36:59
Ah, program because, you know, it started out like super organized where I was like, OK, I'm gonna I'm gonna break this up by, uh but, you know, I have it organized.
00:37:08
Some sheets have multiple TV shows on it.
00:37:10
All that stuff.
00:37:12
And then then all of a sudden I just got lazy.
00:37:14
So now I have sound set.
00:37:15
Sounds that two sounds at 37 set for sounds.
00:37:19
Five.
00:37:20
And I'm just like I have no idea what's on any of these, so I gotta scramble to find it.
00:37:24
So unfortunately, that has to happen.
00:37:28
No people looking smart, but he's not.
00:37:32
They will think he's smart, but but, no, I mean getting back to Brady and getting back to ah man, the public perception.
00:37:40
Yeah, I think in a lot of ways I think what you're seeing up here in New England again, not so much from the fan base, say, for a few, but the media.
00:37:48
You're starting to see a lot of that.
00:37:49
All of a sudden it's all of a sudden it's like the They feel like the shackles are off and they can take their jabs at Brady.
00:37:56
You know, for whatever for whether it be this event or whether it be the the upcoming man in the Arena video do***entary set that's coming out.
00:38:04
I know a lot of people are looking to well, you know, dump all over him for that.
00:38:08
Well, you know what? Get over the fact that Tom didn't give you an interview while you were here.
00:38:12
You know, Maybe if you treated him better, maybe he would have been a little bit more apt to give you a little bit more information.
00:38:19
Now.
00:38:20
Instead, you tried to, you know, flex your you know, your your muscle.
00:38:22
Well, you know, five foot three inches tall of you.
00:38:25
So yes, yes, a couple of people that I'm criticizing.
00:38:28
I'm definitely I'm actually taller then.
00:38:30
So, like, it went off. Mike Leake short.
00:38:33
And no, folks, I do not mean Mike Reiss, who I respect above all else and I loved out of that is one of the greatest in the world, greatest in the world.
00:38:41
I'm not talking about Mike because we know Mike is one of the very few people in the world that you can lose a battle of fight with me.
00:38:48
But he's not the one I'm talking about, but no, in all actual and really I mean, you know, get get over it, really get over it.
00:38:56
Stopping the jilted lover because it's really it's not.
00:38:59
It's not an attractive look, and it just makes you look petty and make sure what said, but yeah, but ultimately again.
00:39:06
Yeah, that erosion of Brady's that erosion of Brady's character, I think you know, are you know, Brady's public perception.
00:39:14
Ah, lot of that is because it's he's not a threat New England anymore.
00:39:18
But you know, we'll see what we'll see what happens.
00:39:21
He starts winning games in Tampa.
00:39:22
I think people that those old feelings are gonna come back.
00:39:25
Well, I I think there is a little bit of wishful thinking to Some people have convinced themselves that yes, maybe he isn't the same quarterback, but guess what he is.
00:39:32
And again I will.
00:39:34
That would be the biggest victory lap that I've ever taken in my life next year when when he's sitting there on one of the ah, one of the few M v P candidates and potentially winning an MPP because he's down there with that offensive crew and people are just what are they going to say? But, you know, the thing is, a lot of that hate and aggressiveness towards him is coming from the Boston media, which isn't a surprise because the segment that I'm talking about was was doing this to him when he was here, but the example great example, and this was a issue or ah topic that? Ah, I got into a conversation with some of those, um com.
00:40:10
Brady is dead to me, folks, you know.
00:40:12
Ah, but ah, Dan Shaughnessy.
00:40:15
Surprise! Surprise! Wrote a story.
00:40:18
Um, it was titled something about Tom Brady being tone deaf because of the supplement that that he released recently.
00:40:26
And I'm just sitting here thinking like, see, this is an example of, like, just get over it.
00:40:30
Dan Shaughnessy, Ben Volin.
00:40:31
You guys the globe, get over it.
00:40:34
Used gone like you're sitting here harping.
00:40:36
I mean, making such a big deal out of something so stupid.
00:40:39
You know how many athletes and celebrities go up and hock these, uh, immune system boosters and vitamins and all those crap that is not regulated by the FDA? That's not like it's all over the place.
00:40:53
But to them, they look at Tom Brady is being the only guy to do it. And I call on him.
00:40:58
Ah, this that and the other.
00:40:59
And it's just like it.
00:41:00
Just stop it.
00:41:01
Just stop it.
00:41:02
You're clearly using him as a crutch and and if it if it hasn't been evident the last several years through your coverage of the guy It's very clear that this is your one stick.
00:41:12
And it's sad for a guy like Dan Shaughnessy, who does have, uh oh, are did have a somewhat good, really good reputation in the city and and in the journalism world altogether.
00:41:23
I think he was, you know, at a time I mean, there's still people out there that you know Well, you know, think of him in very high regard.
00:41:30
Mostly other Globe members, Um, but in reality, he's become a of character.
00:41:37
A character.
00:41:38
Yeah, Jesus.
00:41:40
I was got the world stowed without saying Ah, used a word that I can't say, but yeah, you know what I have seen a carrot character, Whatever.
00:41:49
Take it away.
00:41:50
Might say, You know, it's true and I agree with you and a lot of ways.
00:41:54
I think it's because of the type of journalism quote unquote that you're seeing.
00:41:59
It's not investigative.
00:42:01
It's not insightful anymore.
00:42:02
I mean, Dan was always controversial.
00:42:04
I mean, they're athletes that, you know, during the eighties that absolutely could not stomach the sight of a guy, and in a lot of ways, you know, you're doing your job properly.
00:42:12
If you're ****ing people off because you're touching nerves, you're getting into the intricacies of what needs to be total.
00:42:18
But in a lot of ways, what Dan was doing was he was bringing stories that needed to be told from the forefront inner workings of the team, things that were going on, things that we're putting things on the field of play or the court or whatever.
00:42:30
He was bringing these things to light, and a lot of people had problems with that.
00:42:35
And unfortunately, in that respect, I do so with him because he was doing a job.
00:42:41
What you're seeing now is commentary social commentary on I understand that's what a column this does, folks.
00:42:47
I'm not saying that that's not what he does, but it all seems to be a bit tabloidish at times, and that's why he's becoming a character, church and deliberate. Exactly.
00:42:56
It's part of a predictable anyone, exactly, and anyone who thinks it's not part of an agenda.
00:43:02
Well, you know, I have some beachfront property out by again that I'd like Teoh to sell.
00:43:07
You know, I'm only kidding.
00:43:08
I'm only kidding.
00:43:09
He lives in the next section, waiting.
00:43:11
There's no swamp, there's no swamp in No, no, no.
00:43:14
That's Ah, I don't know.
00:43:16
That sets the northern part of this.
00:43:17
I don't think I do not venture out of my bubble here.
00:43:21
Um, I'm across the bridge on the other side of Tampa Bay.
00:43:24
I rarely cross that bridge.
00:43:26
Um, so I I'm kind of in my own little world down here in safety.
00:43:30
I won't.
00:43:31
I won't go to swamp land.
00:43:32
I will live anywhere else.
00:43:33
That's this is this is where I like to be is right down here, but, um but no, it.
00:43:37
But again, like you said, um, there is a time and a place for that type of journalism.
00:43:42
And look, you know, if if, if someone again that didn't, you know, make a career are more recent career out of knocking the guy, or at least literally ah, whole paper is committed to every little, you know, criticizing every little for thing.
00:43:58
And and this isn't me being, you know, being ah, you know, over exaggerating. This is true.
00:44:04
I mean, it's predictable, and that's the problem.
00:44:06
It's like, you know, you saw you saw the piece.
00:44:08
You didn't even have to know who wrote it.
00:44:09
You saw the headline, and you're like, Oh, this Dan Shaughnessy.
00:44:12
Oh, you click.
00:44:13
OK, dancer, Honestly, it's OK.
00:44:14
It's, Ah, December late December early January, and their tomato can article right on time.
00:44:21
Right on cue.
00:44:22
It's the exact same thing over and over again, and it's like he may think it's cute and funny, and it's like, Oh, I'm Dan Shaughnessy this any other? But no, it's it's tiring and it's lazy, and it's really just bad journalism.
00:44:31
And and And look, the Globe is getting a reputation for that for for the way they cover sport, especially in this town.
00:44:38
And it's very evident that they have an agenda.
00:44:40
And that's the problem with with some of these things.
00:44:43
So right, we're gonna We're gonna obviously talk more about that throughout the week.
00:44:47
We're going to talk more about the NHL plan to ah, phase back into play.
00:44:52
And of course, there's plenty of other topics for us to talk about.
00:44:55
So Oh, yeah, I wanted to end on this today.
00:44:57
I don't know why I was just feeling that I was thinking Gang grill all day today, man. Wow.
00:45:02
Yeah, I know, I know. That's what bank.
00:45:04
Oh, yeah, one of the best intros ever.
00:45:06
I mean, this is was a great great theme song.
00:45:11
See, you feel it.
00:45:12
So, folks, thank you very much for tuning in.
00:45:15
Once again.
00:45:16
If you catch the show late, definitely.
00:45:17
Check out the podcast.
00:45:18
You can check out the replay on SportsCastr SportsCastr dot com slash FTC And, of course, give us a follow at FBC Radio Live I am at I g l e n 31.
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