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00:00:00
Hello, everybody.
00:00:01
What's going on? This is Ray route coming to you with another addition of SportsCastr news.
00:00:07
And I'm here with my boys, Joe Nouveau and Lawrence O in What's happening, fellas, What's going on? Going on? All right, SportsCastr.
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I'm just going to go through Ah, this this story that we saw today and then we'll get into what we really want to talk about.
00:00:26
So the Arizona Cardinals quarterback Kyla Murray had a strong rookie season that included being the most accurate deep ball passer in the NFL.
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That means more accurate than the precious Patrick Mahomes, more accurate than to Sean Watson.
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That means we are just poised to seeing Kyla Murray.
00:00:47
Breakout, obviously, is the next goat of all time, right? I mean, that's what this article is got to be saying to us.
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But what this got us thinking? Waas.
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I'm a Patriots fan.
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Joe is a dreaded Baltimore Ravens fan.
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Warren is my old rival, the Indianapolis Colts fan.
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He's not the Colts.
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He's a fan of the cold.
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I am way thought we would do is is we would give our to breakout players from each of our teams.
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Joe, obviously with the Ravens, Lawrence object the Colts of myself with the Patriots.
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But what we're gonna do is we're going to start looking at the Ravens to breakout players.
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We know who each other picked.
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Lawrence and I are going to start and give our opinion on his to breakout players.
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And the Joe's gonna tell us why, where either right or wrong or why they're gonna, you know, and actually give the rial evidence of why he believes they're going to be the breakout players.
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Um, this probably will be soon, but wait a good conversation.
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Good.
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Lawrence, do you want to start the Ravens players? You want me to go first? I think you might want to, because I was busy doing other stuff.
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So I need to go back and look really quick.
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I get a little bit of research on your guys, but I didn't do a whole lot on his I know one, but I don't know who that other guy.
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Actually, that's why I picked him.
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I also think it's super important.
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I mean, we have to share this where we're all family here now, right? Uh, you guys have to understand how disheveled Lawrence looked a minute and 1/2.
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I mean, he's got his video face on.
00:02:22
I'll tell you that much, All right, so marquees Brown Hollywood Brown is the firmly where Yes, Sir Joe Nouveau picked out for a break out season with the Ravens and Joe I Oh, I want to disagree with you, but I think when it comes to Hollywood, I mean, look the cake and go to 60 in the blink of an eye.
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He's like a 1975 souped up Ford Mustang.
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Ah, he's got elite separation.
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He can take the top off the defense.
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I think that with a little bit of ill my watch on him today.
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What? I realizes he's more than just a vertical threat he's got.
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He's a very strong route runner, obviously, in the vertical game, the guy is an absolute nightmare to try to keep up with.
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Um, I think that what could hinder him? I'm not saying it's going to, but what could hinder him? And there's really nothing he can do about it.
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He's got small hands, small arms.
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He's got a small catch radius.
00:03:20
Yeah, he's a small did.
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Yeah, yeah, that forces Lamar to hit Mawr of a perfect pass.
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But one thing that I think he needs to do this season, what I want to see.
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Um, Martin was called Marqise Lee.
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I apologize marquees Brown do.
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He needs to get a little bit more physical men.
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He's not one that likes to take a hit.
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I was looking at his draft profile, just, you know, they refresh my memory, what he's like in college and one of three different ****ysts all said that he will run out of bounds when he sees, you know, pressure rather than taking a hit and picking up a couple more yards and contested catches or a problem.
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That doesn't mean that he can't be the breakout player.
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That doesn't mean that he can't be the next Tyree kill of the NFL.
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But I think in my opinion, I would like to see him take those steps to prove his elite nus.
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But I think he can be an elite quarterback now.
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I was what I was impressed with today, as everybody knows on the ****ytics guy of our department here he ranked 35th out of 81 Devi away and I think for a rookie.
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That's not bad at all.
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I mean, I think that's a pretty good spot for a rookie wide receiver with a second year quarterback who basically wanted to throw the ball more but was being forced to run more than he wanted to.
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I got no issues with him sitting out of 35.
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He also drew to pass.
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Interference is this year, which, of course, it for 71 yards.
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That's 71 yards of offense.
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Justin Pass interference penalties now to consider it a break out season for him.
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I like to see him move into the top 20 for Devi away.
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I think that's where he needs to sit, and I think that he's got the talent to be there.
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So that's the breakout season.
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I think he caught what, like 80 passes last year.
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Some things are 71 passes.
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Uh huh.
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Well, he had 71 targets, but he caught 46 46.
00:05:06
Okay, um, I'd like to see him on.
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I think he has the talent to do this.
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I like to see him catch anywhere between 80 to 100 passes next year.
00:05:13
You mean and go for about anywhere between 800 to 900 yards.
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That's sort of my my thing for break out because he has that talent to do that.
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And to me, that's how you know, maybe it's unfair, but that's how I'm gonna be judging him next season.
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I'm not gonna say it's gonna be a failure if he doesn't do that.
00:05:30
But that kid's got.
00:05:32
I mean, he's big game material and and I think that he has all the potential.
00:05:36
Lawrence, what's your keys on Mr Hollywood? Brown? I like Hollywood, Would Brown.
00:05:40
The only problem is, in my opinion, is he disappeared a lot, all right? I watched him play.
00:05:48
There were some games where he would actually show up and he would make a very big time.
00:05:55
Big moment catches in games, the type of game, the type of ah, plays that literally changed.
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The dynamic, you know, completely changed how you feel about the game.
00:06:09
And then there was other games where he just completely would just disappear.
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He'd be on the field, but you would not hear or see his name at all.
00:06:19
So I think that what you need from Hollywood is a little bit more consistency okay, You need him to be ableto go out there and prove that no matter who's on him or what you're doing offensive wise, whether it's, you know, trying to focus on running the football or what not because you're still going to need to have guys out there running around and stuff.
00:06:40
I think he needs to be the guy that Jackson can rely on to the open when he absolutely needs him to be open every game, every play, Uh, every quarter of every week.
00:06:55
Joe tell us about Hollywood Brown, all right, so both of you guys made very, very, very good points, and you won't hear me argue against either of you about the points you made.
00:07:07
I think you both were spot on about both of your points.
00:07:10
However, there are some things that you guys air overlooking.
00:07:13
The first thing being that he was not fully healthy all season.
00:07:17
Last year, he had two big screws in his feet.
00:07:21
Now that's it's pretty tough to play football and to be running full speed with those two big screws in your feet.
00:07:28
We got those removed.
00:07:29
He's put on a lot of weight.
00:07:31
Actually, I don't know if you guys I mean, obviously you're probably not following this closely as a Ravens fan is probably.
00:07:37
But he's putting in a lot of work.
00:07:39
And believe me, I was like my Ravens fans already know that.
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Watch my stuff.
00:07:45
I was not a big Hollywood Brown fan before the draft.
00:07:48
I was not at all big on Hollywood. Brown.
00:07:50
I did not like him.
00:07:51
Um, but then, you know, after I saw his rookie season and I saw this connection that you just cannot explain between him and Lamar, I think it has a lot to do with that.
00:08:02
They grew up in the same area down there in South Florida.
00:08:04
I mean, it's crazy that as that sounds, they have this connection that you just cannot explain.
00:08:09
And I think we're going to see a lot more of that and another reason that I wanted to talk about Hollywood Brown being the breakout is because I think Ravens fans would want me to mention like a J.
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K.
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Dobbins or something which actually is exactly the reason I chose Hollywood.
00:08:23
Brown is because I think are running backs are going to be a nightmare and I throw Lamar in there, and I know there's the joke about Lamar being a running back, and that's not what I'm saying.
00:08:34
But the fact that the fact of the matter is Lamar is an amazing runner.
00:08:37
So him along with Mark Ingram, J.
00:08:39
K.
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Dobbins, Gust Edwards, Injustice Hill that's gonna be a nightmare for defense is.
00:08:44
And guess what? You just have to slip one time and Hollywood is gonna beat you over the top, go all the way to the house.
00:08:50
I miss Understood what you said by nightmare.
00:08:52
I thought you said it was gonna be bad. I was shocked.
00:08:55
They're proposing defense's closing defense's So yeah, the Which is why I actually think you're right, Ray, that if he hits anything less than 800 yards, it will be a disappointment for me as well as for a lot of people.
00:09:09
So, yeah, I am expecting him to have a very big year coming into his second season.
00:09:14
And also another thing that Lawrence brought up is that he would disappear sometimes, which I think is a fair point.
00:09:20
But to be fair, we didn't really have many other options, you know, receiving options for Lamar Jackson.
00:09:26
So if Hollywood was getting shut down, I mean, of course you have Mark Andrews.
00:09:30
But if Mark Andrews is hurt, he might not be an option, either.
00:09:33
So we didn't really have too many options other than a Miles Boykin who was OK, Willie Snead, whose Okay, you know, chain mover.
00:09:41
But we didn't really have many options, so that's that's just But aside from that, I think I agree with everything you guys said.
00:09:47
And that's why he couldn't disappear the way he did.
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Because your options were limited.
00:09:51
You had him.
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And basically you're tight ends.
00:09:54
Yeah, exactly.
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So large.
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They have anywhere bottled what Joe had to say about Mr Brown.
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What? I just said that.
00:10:01
All right, so hopefully this this next one put sparks a little bit more debate.
00:10:05
I think I was a pretty tame one, right.
00:10:08
But I gotta tell you guys, Joe, I think through both of us for a loop today because we're waiting for his two breakout players.
00:10:14
And is it Tyus that I say that right? Is it? Yep.
00:10:17
Highest Bowser 2000 and 17.
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Draft pick.
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Outside linebacker.
00:10:23
Yep.
00:10:24
Ravens fans air hating me a swell, by the way.
00:10:25
Just letting.
00:10:26
I'm sure they are right now because I was familiar with, you know, with Bowser, but not overly think so.
00:10:33
I watched, like 5 10 minutes of film on marquees.
00:10:36
Ah, I want about 5 10 minutes and all our players that we're talking about today.
00:10:40
I spent 45 minutes doing my thing, looking up what people wrote about him watching.
00:10:47
Try finding tape about the guy.
00:10:49
Two men you've got to really dig on YouTube to get.
00:10:52
So I got more college stuff, was hard to get NFL stuff on, right? But here's what I got about him.
00:10:59
Obviously fast, athletic, explosive.
00:11:02
That's what I really liked about him.
00:11:04
Ah, he can be.
00:11:05
He's really good on the edge, getting after the quarterback.
00:11:09
I think that he could actually be a nightmare.
00:11:12
One thing I really liked about him and this was a lot of his NFL highlights.
00:11:15
That's what I really liked about him for the limited time you played.
00:11:17
Now, he was limited in this snaps, but here's what I liked about him.
00:11:21
He has closing speed, which means if the running back can get into that second level he can shut them down A lot of times.
00:11:28
Once a running back gets to the linebackers, they're able to maneuver and get themselves free.
00:11:32
He can stop them at that 45 yard and not let up those extra sick, you know, 3456 yards to get close to that first down.
00:11:39
That was one thing I really, really liked about him.
00:11:42
But even with his limited place, still got to the quarterback 8.
00:11:44
5 times in the last three years.
00:11:46
And I absolutely love that.
00:11:48
Now this.
00:11:50
I had to research because I couldn't have told you this, But this was a consensus like God from him.
00:11:54
And I think this probably could be his problem in the NFL.
00:11:57
And then I'll tell you why.
00:11:58
I think the Ravens will keep him forever.
00:12:01
He gets worn down very easy.
00:12:02
That's every that's all the at Cabrini Buns.
00:12:05
He gets worn down against physical blockers.
00:12:08
Ah, and that's everything which is concerning late in the game when you need your deep when your defense is already wearing out.
00:12:13
If he gets worn down by physical blocking and you're going up against a team like you guys have the Colts this year.
00:12:19
You have to face the in Annapolis.
00:12:20
Cool.
00:12:21
It's That's an offensive line that's gonna bang hard.
00:12:23
That's a game that Bowser could completely disappear in, Not because he's not talented.
00:12:27
He's a little undersized, but that doesn't really matter.
00:12:30
It doesn't mean he's not talented.
00:12:32
But if he's getting broken down, that's where I could see him kind of stopping.
00:12:36
But he's a high motor guy, high effort guy.
00:12:40
That's perfect for the Ravens system.
00:12:42
I've seen John Harbaugh very similar to Bill Belichick, so I take this as a compliment.
00:12:48
I've seen Harbaugh take guys with attitudes, a good like those kind of attitudes, like Bala checked us and turned them into superstars, not necessarily because of their talent, but because they fit that system the way their their attitudes and build up.
00:13:00
So even if his play limits, I could see him as a leader of this team very soon because that's really a lead by example.
00:13:09
And to me, even though he's struggling and I don't see him as your breakout player this year, his I'm assuming that his attitude on the field is probably the same as his practice attitude I seem is a perfect raven player in that locker room.
00:13:25
You kept Lawrence man going over your stinking defensive roster.
00:13:33
And I'm like, Holy crap.
00:13:37
Oh, you got to see Jude on Bowser Ferguson.
00:13:40
He got all these guys, man.
00:13:42
And I think, didn't you get Jacksonville's guy too? Campbell? Yep.
00:13:49
Guess yeah.
00:13:50
Oh, my God.
00:13:51
So Derek Wolfe from the Broncos as well, and we're talking about Taya's power eso.
00:13:56
Anyway, that's my problem.
00:13:59
He got 5 5.
00:14:00
5 sacks or something last year, which is which is impressive.
00:14:04
But now you've got all these extra big name guys that are that aren't necessarily super big time pass rushers.
00:14:12
Like, You know, Campbell's not known for Pastor is mostly known for, you know, clogging that middle.
00:14:17
But he does have very impressive up the middle pass rush ability.
00:14:21
Wolf has got some pass rush ability.
00:14:24
You obviously you got Jude on there.
00:14:27
I mean, you tagged him for a reason.
00:14:29
Um, for him to break out, somebody's gonna have to disappear.
00:14:37
That's that's how I see it.
00:14:39
I mean, because you added, even though you didn't add anything past rush wise in the draft, you added that type of ability in in, um, the off season when it come to free agency, and that's that's gonna put a lot of work on him now.
00:15:04
The one thing that it could help him with is the fact that everybody is going to be worried about the other players when it comes to blocking.
00:15:14
And he's a nobody right now, so he'll be left one on one or even forgotten about it times, so that could help him early.
00:15:22
But if he starts toe, as you say, begin to break out early in the season and start to make a name for himself, I think if he breaks out too early in the season, I think you might start to see that kind of level out a little bit.
00:15:36
This team start to realize that he's there and he's got some speed inability.
00:15:40
Joe, before you give your sort of a bottle in your points, can I ask you a question, please? It kind of just popped up to my So let's say the whole Ed Reed thing goes to hell in a handbasket.
00:15:52
Would even I know that while the Ravens have talked about just trying to get out of his contract, and I know they can't.
00:15:56
But let's just say things and badly with that read, right? Is Bowser athletic enough to convert toe a strong safety? Uh, no.
00:16:06
No. So he's not fast enough.
00:16:08
What is 40 something to me? Yeah, he's so OK.
00:16:13
Do you think about it? Is how, though he is athletic.
00:16:15
But the thing about Bowser is that he's more your typical 34 outside linebacker.
00:16:20
That's what I would say.
00:16:21
He's very more like, you know, in the box.
00:16:24
He will rush the passer, but he's more so he's gonna drop back into coverage.
00:16:27
He's gonna make plays near the line of scrimmage.
00:16:29
He's gonna tackle the runner, you know, play the ball a little bit more.
00:16:33
But the reason I chose Tyus Bowser to break out and believe me, I know this is not a popular opinion amongst Ravens fans at all.
00:16:40
In fact, people think I'm crazy when I say this, But the reason I said this is you know, Ravens fans probably wanted me to mention like Jalen Ferguson, who calls himself sacked Daddy.
00:16:50
I call him Pressure Daddy because he has not earned the name sect that yet Because he has not get any ***.
00:16:56
You still getting pressure? So we need to see some *** from sac Daddy before I can give him that name.
00:17:01
Um, but yes.
00:17:02
So I'm not expecting much from jail in Ferguson just yet.
00:17:06
The reason I said Tyus Bowser's because, yes, we added so many, you know, additions to this defensive line, no doubt about it.
00:17:13
Coleus, Campbell, Derek Wolfe.
00:17:15
And I'm sure we're gonna have some packages.
00:17:17
Or we have Kallias Campbell rushing off the edge because he's so versatile.
00:17:20
He's versatile enough to do that, because just that's just what our defense does.
00:17:24
Man Wink Martindale is very creative.
00:17:26
But the reason I think Tyus Bowser is because everybody is going to be so focused on this defensive line, right? Or Jude on? We just friend.
00:17:35
He's the franchise player.
00:17:36
We just franchise tagged him.
00:17:37
You gotta watch out for Jude on.
00:17:39
I think Tyus Bowser is gonna have the type of year that za Darius Smith had because the year prior that za Darius Smith had his breakout season Baltimore and he got paid by the Packers.
00:17:50
Nobody really knew who he was.
00:17:52
It's the same thing with Tyus Bowser.
00:17:53
Nobody really knows who he is.
00:17:55
Unless you're a Ravens fan, he's going to come in.
00:17:58
He may not have, like, a type of eight sack season.
00:18:01
He might not be very high in ***, but I could see him getting 67 sacks, have some tackles, have really good numbers, and I think he's gonna get overpaid.
00:18:09
And I don't think it's gonna be by the Ravens.
00:18:10
But since it's his contract year, he's gonna break out because he wants to get paid.
00:18:15
That's really the main.
00:18:16
My main argument.
00:18:17
Isn't it a contract here? I thought he was drafted in 17.
00:18:19
No, it's this contract here.
00:18:21
It is his contract here.
00:18:22
Okay, so So he needs a big year than just financially.
00:18:26
Exactly.
00:18:27
That's what I'm saying.
00:18:28
So he's gonna break out.
00:18:30
We've seen it time and time again.
00:18:31
We have like, a factory.
00:18:32
We just push out outside linebackers, defensive lineman.
00:18:36
That's what the Ravens do.
00:18:37
And I think Tyus Bowser is that next piece coming out of this factory.
00:18:41
So that's the reason I chose him.
00:18:44
So you got nothing to say to that? Well, I want so, yeah.
00:18:49
Um, he already said it.
00:18:51
Um, no, you pretty much said exactly what I said.
00:18:55
You know, the other great gonna have to be focused on that, you know, on that front line in order.
00:18:59
And that's going to help him.
00:19:01
But being an outside line, do you say is gonna drop back in coverage? You mean this £243 guys going toe covering, receiving tied ends like Kelsey and more like covering them or run at more? Yeah, covering the flat covering running backs that's going to be covering.
00:19:18
So he's going to be more in his own coverage to the right thing and then covering running backs and men.
00:19:22
Okay, that's very similar to a Patriots defense.
00:19:25
How? Linebackers second bone and then cover.
00:19:28
Ah, covered in Gore.
00:19:29
Yeah, come up.
00:19:30
Look like they're getting ready to pass Rush and Banco.
00:19:32
And that's how they get their picks.
00:19:34
Yep.
00:19:35
Cool to do that.
00:19:36
A lot in their zone.
00:19:37
So, um, no, I kind of agree with it with what you said there, because, like I said, he's gonna have to be just completely forgotten about while he's on the field.
00:19:49
And once he's not, he doesn't have to be completely forgotten belt to actually produce.
00:19:56
I think he'll produce because he is quick.
00:20:00
He's to 40 three's.
00:20:01
What did you do? Hello.
00:20:03
Well, he's six foot 32 and 1/2 22.
00:20:06
It's a pretty big boy.
00:20:07
He's athletic, though, Like Ray was saying for sure.
00:20:10
Yeah. Yeah.
00:20:11
So but what was his, um, forces three cone.
00:20:15
Just curious.
00:20:18
I couldn't find anything about his combine school.
00:20:20
He might not have ran at the combine.
00:20:22
It's no in the NFL has, like, archived all like the older combines stuff.
00:20:28
And it's all gone now off the Really? Yeah.
00:20:30
Again, I can't get anything passed in 2019.
00:20:35
I hate their new set up.
00:20:36
Yeah, I weird.
00:20:37
You go in the draft network and get profiles and stuff for, like, William Sports, but you can't get combines scores.
00:20:43
Yeah, you're right. That checks.
00:20:45
I see so many people.
00:20:47
So many people talk about how big a 40 time is.
00:20:51
In my opinion, the three cone is by far the most important speed agility work out that you could do.
00:20:59
But because it shows how fast you get in and out of your brakes, how quickly you can go from from.
00:21:04
Ah, uh, I gotta hear it.
00:21:08
I got it here, OK? He ran his three code in 6.
00:21:10
75 Okay, go.
00:21:13
That's a good time.
00:21:14
A 4.
00:21:15
6 40 you know, it really is only got it.
00:21:19
He's only got a 37 vertical.
00:21:20
That's where he wouldn't fit into the strong safety spot.
00:21:23
Though he's not that on being strong.
00:21:27
Safety is mostly a box safety.
00:21:30
Anyhow, he could be like a money.
00:21:32
Well, but what it is, But you got to take on tight ends, right? Yeah, I think.
00:21:37
Yeah, I don't think he could.
00:21:40
Well, yeah, like covering running backs in that just short stuff.
00:21:43
He can do that for sure.
00:21:44
That's that's the type of player he is.
00:21:45
He's He's more of like that.
00:21:47
That traditional 34 outside linebacker for sure.
00:21:51
All right, so and let me let me let me throw one more thing out there.
00:21:55
I think Ravens fans wanted me to mention Patrick Queen who was our first round pick.
00:22:00
But I never I never want to say rookies.
00:22:02
They're gonna break out because we haven't seen him play in the NFL.
00:22:05
We don't know what to expect from them just yet.
00:22:07
So that's the reason I hate when people talk.
00:22:09
I hate when people put expectations on rookies.
00:22:12
It's I saw it with McKeel Harry the last year, and I was thought, You know what? When Sony Michelle was drafted, I said, let the kid just play.
00:22:20
You mean don't have expectations? Then I put expectations on McKeel.
00:22:24
Harry.
00:22:25
Well, I'd not He wasn't listening to me, but, you know, I mean, I had all these expectations and lies down.
00:22:29
You never know how a rookie is going to perform.
00:22:32
And actually, one of the guys we're gonna talk about today is Was there was a rookie last season for ah uh, right? Yes.
00:22:39
Yeah, last year.
00:22:41
Ah, for Lawrence's guys.
00:22:42
And he's a guy.
00:22:43
That injury really killed expectations, right? Oh, yeah.
00:22:46
That's a good transition, Joe.
00:22:47
If you're OK if we move into that now. Okay.
00:22:51
Lawrence, you did You do this on purpose? Your two guys you pick, cause you take two guys very near and dear to my heart.
00:22:57
I just Yeah.
00:22:59
After after I picked off like multi boys Ohio State, you You picked you three you picked to Ohio State Buckeyes, and I was just like, Oh, Lord, I have my heart fluttered.
00:23:11
Let me tell you something if you go back to Ah 2017.
00:23:18
Was that when Malik Quiz drafted? No.
00:23:21
Yes, everything.
00:23:23
20 Khaleeq Hooker was 2017.
00:23:26
That's when I started doing YouTube videos.
00:23:29
I did Patriot videos only, but I did a 25 minute video on Hooker because we just loved him in Ohio.
00:23:36
But he needs to have a big season.
00:23:38
Fifth year option declined.
00:23:41
What was he, the 15th overall pick or something of that nature? Something like that fifth year option declined.
00:23:47
If you're a first round draft pick, you almost guaranteed to get your 50 year picked up.
00:23:51
It gets declined.
00:23:52
Staying healthy is gonna be a big thing for him and being consistent on the field Now.
00:23:58
One thing that I I realized as a as a um, whether it's through my research here is that he's showing some of the talent and explosive play making that he can make that we know from the Ohio days.
00:24:14
But he's been inconsistent.
00:24:15
I got a quote here from your defensive coordinator, whose last name I couldn't pronounce so I didn't write it down.
00:24:20
What is it? A bird flu? Even if loose? I understand why it's so hard, he said.
00:24:30
If you are going to be an All Pro player or a high performance starter, Consistency just has to be there.
00:24:36
And he was talking directly about Malik Hooker and I like I said, I love the kid.
00:24:41
I think he's got all the talent in the world.
00:24:43
My concern about him having a breakout year in India.
00:24:46
Plane for India.
00:24:47
All is. You guys play a lot of high safety.
00:24:49
He's so much better as a split zone guy.
00:24:51
Um, at least from a consistency standpoint now he played a lot of high zone in Ohio, so it's really shocking me that he can't find his spot in Indianapolis.
00:25:02
But I'm gonna tell you why.
00:25:03
I don't think it's gonna be his breakout year, and it has nothing to do with him.
00:25:06
And I think that it has everything to do with Julian Blackmon and ah, and and I think that they believe that that's his replacement.
00:25:17
And it's unfortunate like I look, you know, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna dog on Ohio guy.
00:25:21
I'm gonna find everything great to say about them.
00:25:23
Look, he's a great kid.
00:25:25
His consistency is bad.
00:25:26
And that's what has really killed him.
00:25:28
Because if you look at him, he's fast. He's strong.
00:25:30
He's big.
00:25:31
He can open field tackle.
00:25:32
He's not afraid for contact.
00:25:34
He can get dirty if he needs to get dirty.
00:25:36
But he's had brilliant moments and he said non brilliant moments.
00:25:40
And remember, I think it was against the Chiefs when the defense looked phenomenal was against the Chiefs and he was the only one making look stupid. Your enemy.
00:25:49
When he's on the fields getting play against cheese and on cheese, what game was it that they they played? They played okay.
00:25:56
They did look good against the Chiefs, but it wasn't him that was doing that, Um, but against the Chargers, Week one, he made a great play in the end zone.
00:26:07
But, um, and then against Denver, he played very well.
00:26:12
Uh, but he missed, I think, three or four games last year, just sporadically due to injury.
00:26:20
And that 1st 1 happened.
00:26:21
A big X game was the cheese. Give me miss.
00:26:24
Yeah, he's missed at least two games every year, That's what I saw in his injury report.
00:26:27
Right, Joe? What do you think of Mr Hooker? Who, by the way, is a great name, right? It says the best name ever, right? Eso I gotta admit, I didn't know much because I didn't really scout Milly, I gotta be honest.
00:26:40
This back back then, I was not, like, into the scouting game at all.
00:26:44
I was just, you know, barely like getting interested in college football.
00:26:48
Eso Ah, I don't really remember much of him in Ohio, in Ohio State, but what I will say what I do remember hearing from, like, those draft ****ysts guys, you know, Is that a comparison? Ed Reed, Right.
00:27:02
So that wakes you up.
00:27:04
You're like, Oh, okay.
00:27:06
And just looking at his numbers like he's nowhere even near that if you're just looking at his numbers, right.
00:27:11
And of course, injuries are a big part of it.
00:27:14
And I think consistency might be also a swell, but, um, yeah, I mean, right now, I don't think he's lived up to his first round pick.
00:27:21
If it was me saying it just, you know, from an outsider's perspective, flake, I mean, seven picks and three years isn't bad.
00:27:28
It's But it's not, You know, top level safety like you were expecting when you drafted Malik Hooker, in my opinion, so I do think he's disappointed a little bit.
00:27:38
But of course he's still young.
00:27:40
He has some more potential to grow, and this could be that season, All right, so here I go.
00:27:47
Last year was his most most healthy year that he's had all season.
00:27:51
And because of that, Malik Hooker ended up playing near the line of scrimmage like a strong safety more than he played at single high.
00:28:01
Go back.
00:28:02
If you ever go back and watch tapes, you will watch him up playing against the run a lot, which is unbelievable.
00:28:09
Why, why in the broke would you do that when you have strong safety position on the field? At the same time? I never understood that.
00:28:16
Also, Malik Hooker was not drafted for this defense.
00:28:23
Malik Hooker was drafted when Chuck Pagano was still the head coach, so and Chuck Pagano at the time was running a 34 completely different style and more of a man coverage, right? They've got Hincker playing in a position.
00:28:43
Me, he not only was a young, but he had to flip schemes.
00:28:49
Then he gets hung his 1st 2 year season ending injuries his 1st 2 years.
00:28:56
Last year, he finally starts to get semi healthy, and they start playing them in a weird wait.
00:29:03
More, more, more against the run than then, then saving against the deep past.
00:29:07
You would if you would watch like, um, against the Buccaneers.
00:29:13
Ah, shoot Western through like 500 yards against the Colts.
00:29:19
All right, and like four passes that went over 40 yards and three of those Malik Hooker was within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage when the ball was from, which is not worry Supposed to be.
00:29:36
I do like the fact that you brought up Julian Blackmon.
00:29:39
Doh Ray Julian Blackmon is an interesting fit because he could play free safety very, very well because he started off as a quarterback, you know, But he's hurt, right? He's gonna take a while for him to get into into shape.
00:29:59
I think that first four weeks of this season will be make or break for hooker, and I think it poker actually comes out and my neighbor foods place him, like you say, maybe split safety.
00:30:15
I would love to see him and Blackmon out there together, right? That such that he's so much stronger in a split zone with safeties than he is a single high.
00:30:24
I would like if they would change that safety division, that safety set and put them to a split zone.
00:30:30
I think every cold spam would be in love with him.
00:30:32
Yeah, I like him and Blackman splitting, splitting the deep.
00:30:36
But the problem is the Colts have a very good strong safety right now on Qari Willis.
00:30:40
That was a rookie last year is well, and, uh, he's a box safety that's just absolutely monstrous when it comes to run support.
00:30:50
Um, but I think, yeah, if Maliki can just cover 1/2 of the deep ball hiss, speed, athleticism and ball hawking skills will be, like 10 times more apparent then what they have been the first couple of years.
00:31:11
So that's that's my thought process on Malik Hooker.
00:31:14
I mean, I can't argue your thought process. I love Hooker.
00:31:17
I love Molly cooker.
00:31:18
I think he's been used wrong in Indianapolis, which is becoming a common theme in our conversations, Lawrence would have different players.
00:31:26
Um, yeah.
00:31:27
And I think if they could put him into some sort of split zona are double high instead of that single high defense.
00:31:32
And you're right.
00:31:33
Hookers should be nowhere near the line of scrimmage doing run support.
00:31:37
He should be back.
00:31:38
And I I'd like to see him go in man coverage.
00:31:41
You mean our high safety over with a cornerback in double coverage? I think that again.
00:31:47
They just haven't youth.
00:31:48
Um, and I You know what? I never put it in until you said it.
00:31:51
He wasn't drafted for this defense.
00:31:53
He was drafted for professionals defense, which is a very different defense.
00:31:58
It's all gladly.
00:31:59
When he's a free agent next year, haven't signed with the Patriots.
00:32:05
Now get out.
00:32:06
Moving on to your next player.
00:32:08
I'm gonna preclude this for you guys.
00:32:10
Okay? Beyond this wall of soccer scarves in my studio area, I have my man cave.
00:32:18
I have to Onley too.
00:32:21
Autographed helmets, full size helmets.
00:32:24
I have an ugly ass purple and black helmet, but it's got a beautiful Ray Lewis signature on it.
00:32:30
Sounds like a beautiful helmet to me then and then I have a silver Ohio State Buckeyes helmet that has Campbell's autograph on it.
00:32:38
Okay, Lawrence, you missed out on having one of the best receivers in the league just because of pure bad luck.
00:32:50
Fractured hand, fractured foot, hamstring, abdominal.
00:32:54
I don't expect this to be a repeat, prepares Campbell this season.
00:32:58
I expect him to be somewhat healthy because what you go and and I think that he is gonna benefit from Philip Rivers and having Jacoby percent, I really do.
00:33:11
I think that Philip Rivers is a better quarterback for Campbell.
00:33:16
You've got a guy that ran a 4.
00:33:17
31 40 yard dash.
00:33:20
You've got a guy with big playability.
00:33:22
You've got a guy that can take a top off.
00:33:24
The defense can run almost every route that you want him to wrote Big time.
00:33:28
Speed can stretch.
00:33:29
The defense can run under routes.
00:33:31
His YAC yards can be absolutely phenomenal.
00:33:35
He's being compared to Tyree kill for his game breaking ability.
00:33:41
I don't have much more to add than that when we talk about all the guys, including the two that I picked when we talk about the guy who I think has the best chance of having that breakout season.
00:33:53
It's Mr Pairs Campbell.
00:33:55
He's just the kid is absolutely phenomenal again.
00:33:59
I could be biased because I could have my Ohio State shirt on right now thinking about this.
00:34:04
But, um, it's funny because, you know, Nick Eel Harry got roasted for his rookie year, which was very injury filled, missed half the season in Paris.
00:34:15
He kind of just flew under the radar.
00:34:17
You know, I mean, like, nobody was really getting mad at him and, yeah, able and well outside of Indianapolis.
00:34:24
But it wasn't, you know, front page stuff.
00:34:26
And but it's, ah, cold fans.
00:34:30
Listen, Lawrence, you can sit there and say that.
00:34:32
A Patriots fan, a Patriots fan, said this.
00:34:35
Next time you're talking to Colts fans, be patient with this kid.
00:34:38
He is.
00:34:39
He's gonna be a top 10 in the NFL if he stays healthy.
00:34:41
If this injury string continues, it just gets harder and harder, especially when you're dealing with feet issues.
00:34:49
We talked about it with Joe, talked with Hollywood, right, screws in your feet when you're dealing with feet issues and has had a leg and a foot issue.
00:34:56
But if he can stay healthy.
00:34:57
The kid is phenomenal, Joe.
00:34:59
It's up to you.
00:35:00
But who? Well, how do I follow that? You just heaped praises on this player, and I'm here to just totally bring the storm and just tear it all down.
00:35:11
But that's what I do.
00:35:12
I guess so.
00:35:13
Campbell, um, second round pick, obviously for the Indianapolis Colts.
00:35:19
I think it speaks a lot.
00:35:20
I mean, firstly, that they went ahead and took another receiver in the second round this year.
00:35:26
So I'm just saying that that speaks volumes right then and there.
00:35:29
Um, but Paris Campbell man went the little the very little that I did watch of Paris Campbell back in Ohio State because I, the Ravens, were linked to Paris Campbell there, like we were hearing Oh, Eric DeCosta loves Paris Campbell.
00:35:43
And I'm like, let me check this guy out What I saw.
00:35:45
And maybe he was just like I saw maybe one, maybe two games.
00:35:49
He looked to me like a very short, you know, short route receiver.
00:35:53
Very stays close to the line of scrimmage.
00:35:55
He's gonna do quick little, you know, curl routes.
00:35:58
He's very well.
00:35:59
He'll take it on you know, run after the catch.
00:36:02
You know, hey, can go deep occasionally, but I I think he would be more suited over the middle.
00:36:08
At least that was my impression of him.
00:36:10
Um, again.
00:36:12
And you know, Lawrence, you've seen plenty more about him that I have.
00:36:15
And same thing with you, Ray.
00:36:16
But that's just my impression of him.
00:36:18
And to be honest with you, I didn't have big expectations of bears.
00:36:22
Campbell.
00:36:23
I thought he would be a good complementary piece, but I don't know.
00:36:25
I just don't know.
00:36:26
Now that you drafted Michael Pittman, you have t y Hilton healthy.
00:36:30
He's, you know, t y Hilton, as far as I know, is a slot receiver. So he might.
00:36:34
I don't know if how that's gonna work with Paris, Campbell, but that's just my take. Lawrence.
00:36:39
What? What do you got? Men.
00:36:40
All right, First off, I understand you're takes because they're all outside of the UK not understanding what's going on.
00:36:49
Okay, So T y Hilton place all three positions at the wide receiver position. Got you.
00:36:55
He's played wide receiver.
00:36:56
One left.
00:36:57
He played wide receiver one, right? He's played slot each plate, but he t Why can do it all? He learned he learned from Reggie.
00:37:05
Reggie learned from Marvin, Andy, and Marvin is weird because Marvin put you knew where Marvin was.
00:37:10
Every every stinking time he the ball was snapped.
00:37:13
He was on the right side and he was always going to be on the right outside.
00:37:16
But Reggie wasn't like that, and he taught T y and now t Why could go everywhere on the field? That's what makes him so dangerous.
00:37:25
What the courts have it had in the recent years is a true big bodied number 1 50 50 catch ball guy.
00:37:35
That's why they went and got Michael Pittman, Paris Campbell and you are about dead, right? Paris Campbell is that slot guy, that guy that could go and run.
00:37:48
I'm telling you what, Had he been healthy, He had had a really good year with Rivers there.
00:37:55
He's gonna have an upstanding year.
00:37:58
Why? Because I can't think of too many other players in the NFL that could take a drag route the way Paris Campbell will be able to with Philip Rivers throwing him an absolutely, beautifully catchable football and watching him take that on the run and watch the kind of gak yards he's going to get after the catch.
00:38:18
Any kind of drag route, any kind of, uh, post seam route, any type of crossing pattern.
00:38:25
Oh my God, he'd be so dangerous on rub routes on scissor routes and things of that nature, Paris will be absolutely dangerous.
00:38:33
His takeoff.
00:38:35
It's so good that if the cornerback does not have at least seven yards off the line of scrimmage from him, he'll have to steps on him within 15 yards.
00:38:49
I've seen it over and over and over. It's it's scary.
00:38:52
The problem.
00:38:53
A lot of the problem was, was Jacoby beset? Just did not know how to take heat off a football when he threw the ball.
00:39:00
Now granted Paris persons injured almost the entire season last year.
00:39:06
So teens are not even going to be looking to cover Paris Campbell this year because they're going forget about him like you get joke people are not.
00:39:14
These teams are not going to forget about Paris.
00:39:16
Campbell.
00:39:18
Nice try, but I mean, you're gonna have t y Hilton, which they obviously have to account for you.
00:39:23
You're gonna have Michael Pittman Jr on the other side.
00:39:27
Michael Pittman on the other side.
00:39:30
They're going toe have to account for You're gonna have your third corner covering Paris.
00:39:35
Campbell, Paris.
00:39:37
Campbell's gonna eat a lot.
00:39:39
He's gonna be Tyree kill man.
00:39:40
He's going to be Tyree kill for Philip Rivers.
00:39:43
I think so, too.
00:39:44
I think I think you're going to see where he'll catch a lot of passes between, um, the three yard and eight yard from beyond the line of scrimmage.
00:39:57
But you're gonna end up seeing that he'll take those an additional 5 to 10 yards as well just because you know what he could do after he catch as long as he's catching it and he's moving while he's catching it.
00:40:08
He is so dangerous, so dangerous, like you say, just like Tyreek Hill.
00:40:14
Well, as I sat here and complimented to Ohio State boys, which I absolutely love, we now have to move on to a Michigan wolverine of already as we get into Ah, the New England Patriots.
00:40:28
So I don't know who wants to start, But my first breakout for my defensive player is Chase win a ***** this season.
00:40:35
I can start.
00:40:36
Um, okay, So I did check this guy out because he was You know, it feels like we always need edge rushers.
00:40:45
You know, it's it's one of those positions the Ravens always need is along with wide receiver.
00:40:50
It's address or so Chase, one of which was definitely one of those guys.
00:40:54
Um, he reminded me like and I know, um, he's like the white Terrell Suggs.
00:41:01
You know, the way he plays, or at least what I saw.
00:41:04
Um, so I was pretty high on this guy.
00:41:07
I'm like, Yeah, let's try to take him in the second and the third.
00:41:10
I think he'll fit this defense perfectly.
00:41:12
And lo and behold, a team that, you know, runs very similar style.
00:41:16
Defense is, too, that we do the New England Patriots.
00:41:18
They go ahead and take Chase.
00:41:19
Win a *****.
00:41:20
Um, so you know, I could definitely see he again.
00:41:23
He's like the perfect patriot looks, you know, aside.
00:41:28
Ah, he definitely seems to fit that Patriots defense.
00:41:32
No doubt about it.
00:41:33
So I could definitely see why you picked him Ray to be your breakout candidate.
00:41:39
I like Jason of it.
00:41:41
Pretty good.
00:41:42
I mean, but this is New England.
00:41:44
Yeah, right.
00:41:45
it could be someone that we assume is going to be 1/3 string starter this year.
00:41:50
And then, Ah, you know, Mr Bill is gonna bring a mountain go.
00:41:56
Yeah, he's going to be the star this year, and I'm going to trade him off for a first round in the third round pick.
00:42:02
Yeah, that's that's just what they do.
00:42:04
So what I want to know is, even though, yes, he did, he had a pretty good see.
00:42:11
I'm sitting here looking.
00:42:12
I mean, yet by sacks, he had some tackles every game, every game he was that he did not have a stat lis game all season.
00:42:22
Uh, was your bye week 10 last year? Yep. Okay.
00:42:28
So, yeah, that the only stat lis week was week 10.
00:42:32
So good thing it is a very good Yeah, that's impressive, actually, since he was a rookie last year, right? He was.
00:42:40
Yep.
00:42:41
And he was primarily used on third down, obvious past situations.
00:42:45
So that's that's very impressive.
00:42:48
My only question is, is he gonna his size, which I move? What about 2 50? I think so.
00:42:59
He's about to pity he should be able Toby on all three down defensive end.
00:43:05
Um, well, not for a 34 though.
00:43:11
No, but the not for 34 And if you're done, all go.
00:43:15
What if you're not gonna let go ahead Chase winner, which is gonna become a hybrid this year of an outside linebacker and add rusher? We called the the Rob Ninkovich role in New England, and it's something that Belichick likes tohave.
00:43:29
And Kyle Van Noy sort of played this role last year where you have a guy playing an outside linebacker position but also setting the edge.
00:43:36
And we think, at least my opinion, a lot of Patriot fans.
00:43:38
We all believe the Chase winner, which is gonna move into that position.
00:43:42
It's also very Bill Bill Bell check in to when you have a guy who you see as the future guy to limit him in his rookie season.
00:43:50
I mean, if you were running back, you're going to be red shirted.
00:43:52
Hence, my next guy we're going to talk about with defensive players, you're going to get your limited opportunities.
00:43:58
Um, but being just 1/3 down guy, he came up with 26 tackles, 5.
00:44:03
5 sacks.
00:44:04
I believe he blocked a punt.
00:44:06
This or a punt this year to which led to a touchdown, or he ran it in for tight.
00:44:10
He got into his hands on the ball, something he did, something with a punt that turned into a touchdown.
00:44:14
This year, Um, you know Suiza too easy to team guy and special teams and defense.
00:44:19
Um, when you're looking, I'm coming out of college.
00:44:21
166 tackles and three years.
00:44:23
43 of those were for losses.
00:44:25
18.5 sacks.
00:44:26
He forced three fumbles, recovered three balls, Um, again, like a like a like a Ravens defence, the same as the Patriots.
00:44:33
He's a motor guy.
00:44:34
He's a high effort guy, high octane guy.
00:44:37
He plays like an absolute animal.
00:44:39
He was projected to go in the second round.
00:44:41
A lot of ****ysts, when the Patriots got him the third round last year, were calling him the steal of the draft.
00:44:47
Being able to get him is deep into the third round.
00:44:49
I think he was our second pick in the third round two.
00:44:51
I could be wrong on that, but we took two guys in third round.
00:44:55
Um, but I think at the end of the two is is when you look at this Patriots team, this is gonna be predicated on a deep on the defense being a top five and the special teams being a top 10 and win if it has to contribute in both of those.
00:45:07
So that's why I believe that he's gonna be our Braco guy this year, cause I think just because his role is going to expand so much, But you're still gonna have Dante High Tower beside him, whose gonna be sort of the field general for those guys to make sure that everybody's where they need.
00:45:22
Do you think he's going to be a high sec type of guy or he's going to be more of like a balance? You know, he's going to be more balanced because he can play the run to he sets an edge in the run.
00:45:31
And that's something that that we didn't get to see last year.
00:45:33
But I got the watch him a few times in Michigan when he played Ohio State and he can really set an edge.
00:45:39
Um, so I think we're going to see more of that.
00:45:41
I think I like to see him with his fingers in the dirt More than standing up the Patriots standing up a lot.
00:45:48
Ah, but I believe that we're going to see him kind of all over the field.
00:45:52
And if you ever look up Rob Ninkovich, he was remember, Yeah, tournament to a very hybrid type of players so he could have his fingers in the dirt and the drop back into coverage.
00:46:02
You know what I mean? Like, he was that type of guy and I think that now Chase isn't necessarily going to be covering too many people, but you could see him drop in the zones and he's got enough athleticism to do that.
00:46:13
And you get after the quarterback if need be.
00:46:15
Um, I The thing is, is with the Patriots draft this year, bringing in a guy like Kyle Duggar who could be a strong safety and kind of coming as an edge thing.
00:46:22
Staying with UK is what you can do is is, um, give him an expanded role and use those guys is your third down pass rushers and allow chase to sort of be on the field more.
00:46:32
Last year, I think he was on the field for like 31% of the plays or something like that.
00:46:37
I expect him to be closer to the 50 60%.
00:46:40
And I mean, the top Patriots only gonna play about 50% of a playwright.
00:46:44
That's how balletic rotates his defense.
00:46:46
So I would expect him to be out there for about at least 50% of the place, and that's why I see him being the breakout.
00:46:51
All right, My second guy is somebody you may not be too familiar with because the probably a lot probably a lot of Patriots fans aren't too familiar with.
00:47:00
But it's a former Alabama running back who I think dressed for one game last season.
00:47:05
But I think my breakout offensive players will be Damian Harris.
00:47:09
Wow, who wants to talk with that one first? Well Oh, go ahead, Lawrence.
00:47:14
Go ahead.
00:47:15
No, go ahead.
00:47:16
I'm still watching, but I'm kind of impressed.
00:47:18
You're You're impressed by Damian Harris a little bit. Okay.
00:47:22
So as I understand it, correct me from wrong.
00:47:25
Ray.
00:47:26
Damian Harris is more of like a power style runner.
00:47:28
Correct? There's correct.
00:47:29
He's our power guy.
00:47:31
So I think I know why you chose Damon Harris.
00:47:34
Because you've told us many, many times that this Patriots team is just gonna be a run first team.
00:47:40
Right? So you're expecting this running game with Sony, Michelle and Damian Harris.
00:47:44
You know, it's a type of thunder and lightning connection.
00:47:47
I think you're expecting Damian Harris to be your type of liger blunt roller, maybe like a Jonas Gray roll.
00:47:53
Right? That type of running back, um, which is fair.
00:47:56
And I could see why you would say that he will break out because that's just the type of offense that Bill Biology is going to try to run with this power back and this thunder and lightning thing, we'll see how it goes. Men.
00:48:08
Uh, I mean, he could pretty much come out and have, like, 300 yards, and that would even be an improvement because he's done nothing so far.
00:48:15
So, like, three Cherries, Right, So that's a pretty safe pick, I'd say.
00:48:22
All right, so I'm sitting here right now, actually watching Ah, some all 20 to open while he was in Alabama.
00:48:30
And this kid has got a very nice first step off the ball.
00:48:35
Very nice.
00:48:36
And he's got ah, really good kind of tight moves.
00:48:41
I like to call him tight moves where you don't really move a whole lot side to side, but just enough to where his power is able to get by.
00:48:49
You on an arm tackle.
00:48:51
Um, kind of to kind of get defenders off their balance.
00:48:56
I actually think that I think he should.
00:49:00
I think, honestly, I washed Michelle.
00:49:02
I think he should start over him.
00:49:04
Hey, that right? Let me address that, then.
00:49:11
First of all, Daming hair is not playing next year.
00:49:13
Should not worry any Patriot fans or anybody out there.
00:49:16
Bill Belichick, Red shirting.
00:49:17
A rookie running back is nothing new.
00:49:19
Almost every single running back minus Sony, Michelle has been red shirted James White, Shane Marine.
00:49:25
They've all been red shirted.
00:49:26
They don't start, he doesn't stay, always sits.
00:49:29
And plus, when you look at the Patriots running back corps last year that James White, Sony Michelle Brandon Bolden, Rex Burkhead, they already had a full running back corps.
00:49:38
You couldn't put him in gray.
00:49:41
I actually agree with you.
00:49:43
1 million% Lawrence that Damian Harris.
00:49:48
If he shows he can do in the NFL when he didn't call.
00:49:51
It should start over. Sony.
00:49:53
Michelle.
00:49:54
I lost a lot of faith in Sony Michelle last season, not because he can't run.
00:50:01
Not because he's not fast.
00:50:02
Not because he can't, you know, do things.
00:50:05
Sony.
00:50:06
Michelle can't break a tackle, and that became very, very concerning to.
00:50:11
Now, is it true that he was in Belichick's doghouse? As you know, the national media says he had to have been.
00:50:18
I mean, he just I think he went from his.
00:50:22
His rookie year, he was averaging 4.
00:50:23
5 yards per run and he dropped on a 3.
00:50:26
5 last year.
00:50:28
And the people what happened? It's a sop****re slump.
00:50:30
No, we had full backs injured, an offensive line problems.
00:50:34
And so when I started watching his rookie season over again, I was just flicking through and watching over again.
00:50:41
The holes were the size of my ba*****t that he was running through you what I mean and that's I was getting.
00:50:46
But what I realized was even back in his rookie year, nine of the 10 times he was going down on first contact.
00:50:54
If you're going to be sort of the primary, every down running back.
00:50:58
Seven at it are, you know, at least 34 out of 10 runs you have to break.
00:51:03
You have to shed a tackler.
00:51:05
You what? I mean, at least 40% of the time, you need to break a tackle.
00:51:08
You can't run at 10% of the time breaking attack.
00:51:12
Look at Mark Ingram.
00:51:13
He was at least a 30 40% guy that could break out.
00:51:16
That's my concern with Sony.
00:51:18
Michelle Damian Harris.
00:51:20
Number one fits the Patriots offense.
00:51:22
Not just because you could be a power under, but because it's a platoon and the Patriots really do running back by committee.
00:51:27
And that's what he had in Alabama. He was.
00:51:30
He was a committee running back.
00:51:31
Otherwise, the stats would've been way higher.
00:51:33
Is he only hit like 800 yards? He had 1000 yards first years.
00:51:36
The only reason he had 800 yards is his final year in Ah, in Alabama was because I think they had four running backs.
00:51:42
They were all platooning itself.
00:51:43
He still ended up with 800 yards.
00:51:45
They had just Jacobs.
00:51:46
I believe they did.
00:51:47
Yeah, he still ended up with a college career of 6.
00:51:50
4 yards per run.
00:51:53
You know, I mean, and I don't expect that in the NFL, but I expect a 4.
00:51:56
54 point seven.
00:51:58
You mean sort of that area? Um, he's not really used in the past in game.
00:52:03
I think he had 52 catches or something like that in college for a couple of touchdowns, But I'm gonna go back to the Miami Dolphin game.
00:52:10
I'm gonna go back to the Tennessee Titans game on, you know, first and goals.
00:52:14
And we couldn't punch the ball into the end zone and had to settle for field goals cause Saudi Michele couldn't break through the offensive line because we didn't have a traditional full back.
00:52:23
Um, that can't happen this year.
00:52:25
I mean, we all know, Look, I've already said it Realistically, the Patriots are gonna go ate and ate, and I've said that I think that when I look at it realistically, there in eight and a team, But if good, if they're now saying that, we don't know how Jared Stadium is going to perform, and you can't really make those decisions until you see it.
00:52:43
He's not established like Lamar.
00:52:45
He's not established, like Philip Rivers.
00:52:46
You what? I mean, he's We've never seen the kid play the way I have been for the Patriots toe. Have success.
00:52:52
Maybe win 10 11 games and work their way into a playoff spot is the defense has to be a top five.
00:52:58
The special teams has to be a top 10 and the offense has to be a top 15 right? Even if their 15th they have to be a top 15.
00:53:06
If Jared Stadium can manage game properly and Damian hair is compound the ball, that's the only way I see the Patriots getting to that level of, you know, 10 11 wins, which I'm not saying they're going to, but that's the only way I see them getting there, and I don't think they can put it on Sony Michelle's back.
00:53:23
And I think they're gonna put a lot of this weight on Damian Harris this season and this big here for Sony because the Patriots got to decide whether or not they're using the fifth year option.
00:53:32
And I think just like, you know, Hooker, they're not gonna be using the fifth year option on them this year.
00:53:36
I think that he's gonna be a free agent.
00:53:38
And I think Damian Harris is gonna be the guy going forward even though Sony was our first round pick, you know, two years ago.
00:53:45
I love I'm sitting her watching Hiss size helps him out so much as welcomes.
00:53:51
He's a little dude and he'll be ableto lose people behind that massive offensive line that you guys, you guys, are known for having wide bodied offensive linemen, and he could hide behind those.
00:54:03
And since he's built low, he could get his arm up in the lower back of offensive linemen like you want on when you're, you know, first and goal at the one or two yard line and just kind of show forward.
00:54:16
Uh, he's the guy that yeah, I fully agree that he's the guy that you guys need to go with and with his little quick bursts, and he showed that he could catch the football as well.
00:54:27
From from the take that I was watching while you were talking and trying to listen to you at the same time, Uh, hey seems to be a pretty good player.
00:54:37
I I am surprised that he was red shirted like you said, though I mean, he's, uh, delish.
00:54:44
It does like the redshirt players, but especially running backs.
00:54:48
But my goodness, man, he's I think he's gonna be Ah! Oh, a well kept secret.
00:54:55
It's gonna bust out.
00:54:56
I agree with you.
00:54:58
Thank you.
00:54:59
Yeah, I'm really excited about Damian hairs.
00:55:00
Patriot fans were screaming.
00:55:01
I gotta just read this comments, you guys.
00:55:03
So our page it ban on SportsCastr.
00:55:06
What's funny? Michelle Not being able to break tackles, he just wrote Break a tackle question mark his runs into people and falls.
00:55:14
Which is exactly the way Sony Michelle played this year.
00:55:17
It's why he was so freakin frustrating.
00:55:20
And that's why I got Damon Harris as my my breakout guy.
00:55:23
Because, um, I think last year they put it in Sony's hands and said, Show us what you got, kid.
00:55:28
You know, um and you know what we kept hearing from the coaches, especially.
00:55:33
I've been fears the running back coach was We would even scratched the surface about good Sony.
00:55:37
Michelle is, and he just seemed What I saw last year was no full backs and a week offensive line.
00:55:43
He looked nothing like he did as a rookie.
00:55:46
Damian Hairs a small, but he's powerful, and he could get power back with his small size.
00:55:51
I agree he could get lost behind the offensive line, shed a tackle.
00:55:55
And I think that we might see him break off some of those 15 17 20 yard runs this year just because of his peers strength and, you know, stout sort of demeanor.
00:56:05
So it's it's what it is, and I want to go back.
00:56:08
Teoh Chase win a ***** for one second, if I can, because it was the point I wanted to make, and I forgot.
00:56:16
Now we've talked a few times, droll about slowing down Lamar Jackson.
00:56:19
We've all I think we've all agreed by now.
00:56:21
Well, Joe will always agree, but I think Lawrence, you and I have agreed by now.
00:56:23
You can't stop Lamar Jackson, but you can try to slow him down, right? Obviously, Chase winter, which to me, is a type of player that if the Patriots to get two or three of those kind of guys, those are the kind of guys that can slow down and chase.
00:56:35
Are Lamar Jackson not just because of their talented? He finds the ball very well.
00:56:41
You start in college and you saw it is limited time in the NFL, and that's the biggest thing about beating Lamar.
00:56:49
And you made that point to us when we're on your podcast was, you know, half the time, the guys up the field, you don't even know where the ball is. Yeah, you're to meet people.
00:56:56
Still ball watching, um, a guy like Chase winning, which is confined the ball.
00:57:01
And again, we'll have to study a little harder about how to find the ball against the Ravens, cause it's different all together.
00:57:06
It's a completely different offense, but and I think that that's the way we're going to start seeing defense is built is guys like Chase win a ***** some a little bit more athletic, some of them a little big, But I think it's going to be about versatility and guys that can line up kind of all over the place.
00:57:22
And guys, I confined the football because that's the only way you can slow down Lamar Jackson.
00:57:27
That's the only way it can happen.
00:57:28
Uh, because if you just have a bunch of really skilled guys, it's just gonna be watching, or you can play eight safeties and just get beat everywhere else.
00:57:37
You know what I mean? So it no, try that.
00:57:39
Now.
00:57:40
Try that nowadays.
00:57:41
You know, he and he's gonna run over you.
00:57:42
That's the thing about Lamar is so freaking strong.
00:57:44
You're just gonna run over you, right? Yeah.
00:57:47
So, boys, I mean, honestly, Joe, except for tight, tight tight is about a shadow.
00:57:52
Tyus Bowser, I think, you know, we all had some good plays there, and I mean, I hope Hauser works out.
00:57:56
I really do Like I really I like when players work.
00:57:59
Even if it's for TV.
00:58:00
Don't like, I don't like to see you guys have failed careers, you know, And again, I'm not.
00:58:05
This is not me saying that he's going to stay on the Ravens.
00:58:07
I don't think that I think he's going to play himself into a contract on another team, just like scenario Smith did.
00:58:13
And I mean, Za'darius Smith bawled out.
00:58:14
But there's very few, you know, linebackers that end up working out as much for other teams you'll find in the NFL history.
00:58:22
I C. J.
00:58:23
Mosley.
00:58:24
Well, I mean, he was hurt last year so.
00:58:26
But I know.
00:58:27
Hey, I'm glad we didn't pay him 17 milk. I agree.
00:58:30
I had never understand why people bought why people signed offensive players.
00:58:33
They're never the same players they were in New England.
00:58:36
They probably be the same in a place like Baltimore, because it's a similar defense.
00:58:39
You what I mean you are.
00:58:41
When you signed defensive players, you gotta find someone that's a scheme that Yeah, and I find sometimes these guys just get paid because of what they did the year before.
00:58:50
But then it's almost a guy like hooker.
00:58:52
He would he would be.
00:58:53
He would fit perfect into the Patriots defense right now, where he's not working in India because it's a different coach, you know what I mean? But then, if he goes to a team like Tampa, he's a mess again, like he is in Indianapolis.
00:59:03
You what? I mean, like, it's Ah, it's Ah, it's always strange.
00:59:08
Well, boys, we went an hour.
00:59:10
I knew we go on our It's why I didn't really ties with Thailand. Murray.
00:59:13
Anybody was here to hear about Kyla Murray.
00:59:15
We had no intention Way had no intentions of talking about Kyla Murray at all.
00:59:19
So we're just fooling you to come in again.
00:59:22
Guys, Thank you for tuning into SportsCastr news. As always.
00:59:25
Thank you to my partners in crime.
00:59:27
My colleagues, the SportsCastr news NFL crew, Joe Nouveau and Lawrence O.
00:59:33
And my name is Ray Route.
00:59:34
Thank you so much for tuning and take care.
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Kyler Murray was NFL’s most accurate deep-ball passer during rookie season

Arizona Cardinals quarterback Kyler Murray had a strong rookie season that included being the most accurate deep-ball passer in the NFL. According to John Kinsley of Football Outsiders, he used his own formula to try and figure out who was the most accurate passer in different situations. Passes that were accurate but were dropped or […]

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Hello, everybody.
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What's going on? This is Ray route coming to you with another addition of SportsCastr news.
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And I'm here with my boys, Joe Nouveau and Lawrence O in What's happening, fellas, What's going on? Going on? All right, SportsCastr.
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I'm just going to go through Ah, this this story that we saw today and then we'll get into what we really want to talk about.
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So the Arizona Cardinals quarterback Kyla Murray had a strong rookie season that included being the most accurate deep ball passer in the NFL.
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That means more accurate than the precious Patrick Mahomes, more accurate than to Sean Watson.
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That means we are just poised to seeing Kyla Murray.
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Breakout, obviously, is the next goat of all time, right? I mean, that's what this article is got to be saying to us.
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But what this got us thinking? Waas.
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I'm a Patriots fan.
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Joe is a dreaded Baltimore Ravens fan.
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Warren is my old rival, the Indianapolis Colts fan.
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He's not the Colts.
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He's a fan of the cold.
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I am way thought we would do is is we would give our to breakout players from each of our teams.
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Joe, obviously with the Ravens, Lawrence object the Colts of myself with the Patriots.
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But what we're gonna do is we're going to start looking at the Ravens to breakout players.
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We know who each other picked.
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Lawrence and I are going to start and give our opinion on his to breakout players.
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And the Joe's gonna tell us why, where either right or wrong or why they're gonna, you know, and actually give the rial evidence of why he believes they're going to be the breakout players.
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Um, this probably will be soon, but wait a good conversation.
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Good.
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Lawrence, do you want to start the Ravens players? You want me to go first? I think you might want to, because I was busy doing other stuff.
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So I need to go back and look really quick.
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I get a little bit of research on your guys, but I didn't do a whole lot on his I know one, but I don't know who that other guy.
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Actually, that's why I picked him.
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I also think it's super important.
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I mean, we have to share this where we're all family here now, right? Uh, you guys have to understand how disheveled Lawrence looked a minute and 1/2.
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I mean, he's got his video face on.
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I'll tell you that much, All right, so marquees Brown Hollywood Brown is the firmly where Yes, Sir Joe Nouveau picked out for a break out season with the Ravens and Joe I Oh, I want to disagree with you, but I think when it comes to Hollywood, I mean, look the cake and go to 60 in the blink of an eye.
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He's like a 1975 souped up Ford Mustang.
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Ah, he's got elite separation.
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He can take the top off the defense.
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I think that with a little bit of ill my watch on him today.
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What? I realizes he's more than just a vertical threat he's got.
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He's a very strong route runner, obviously, in the vertical game, the guy is an absolute nightmare to try to keep up with.
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Um, I think that what could hinder him? I'm not saying it's going to, but what could hinder him? And there's really nothing he can do about it.
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He's got small hands, small arms.
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He's got a small catch radius.
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Yeah, he's a small did.
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Yeah, yeah, that forces Lamar to hit Mawr of a perfect pass.
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But one thing that I think he needs to do this season, what I want to see.
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Um, Martin was called Marqise Lee.
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I apologize marquees Brown do.
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He needs to get a little bit more physical men.
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He's not one that likes to take a hit.
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I was looking at his draft profile, just, you know, they refresh my memory, what he's like in college and one of three different ****ysts all said that he will run out of bounds when he sees, you know, pressure rather than taking a hit and picking up a couple more yards and contested catches or a problem.
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That doesn't mean that he can't be the breakout player.
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That doesn't mean that he can't be the next Tyree kill of the NFL.
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But I think in my opinion, I would like to see him take those steps to prove his elite nus.
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But I think he can be an elite quarterback now.
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I was what I was impressed with today, as everybody knows on the ****ytics guy of our department here he ranked 35th out of 81 Devi away and I think for a rookie.
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That's not bad at all.
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I mean, I think that's a pretty good spot for a rookie wide receiver with a second year quarterback who basically wanted to throw the ball more but was being forced to run more than he wanted to.
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I got no issues with him sitting out of 35.
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He also drew to pass.
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Interference is this year, which, of course, it for 71 yards.
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That's 71 yards of offense.
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Justin Pass interference penalties now to consider it a break out season for him.
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I like to see him move into the top 20 for Devi away.
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I think that's where he needs to sit, and I think that he's got the talent to be there.
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So that's the breakout season.
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I think he caught what, like 80 passes last year.
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Some things are 71 passes.
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Uh huh.
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Well, he had 71 targets, but he caught 46 46.
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Okay, um, I'd like to see him on.
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I think he has the talent to do this.
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I like to see him catch anywhere between 80 to 100 passes next year.
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You mean and go for about anywhere between 800 to 900 yards.
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That's sort of my my thing for break out because he has that talent to do that.
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And to me, that's how you know, maybe it's unfair, but that's how I'm gonna be judging him next season.
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I'm not gonna say it's gonna be a failure if he doesn't do that.
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But that kid's got.
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I mean, he's big game material and and I think that he has all the potential.
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Lawrence, what's your keys on Mr Hollywood? Brown? I like Hollywood, Would Brown.
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The only problem is, in my opinion, is he disappeared a lot, all right? I watched him play.
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There were some games where he would actually show up and he would make a very big time.
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Big moment catches in games, the type of game, the type of ah, plays that literally changed.
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The dynamic, you know, completely changed how you feel about the game.
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And then there was other games where he just completely would just disappear.
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He'd be on the field, but you would not hear or see his name at all.
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So I think that what you need from Hollywood is a little bit more consistency okay, You need him to be ableto go out there and prove that no matter who's on him or what you're doing offensive wise, whether it's, you know, trying to focus on running the football or what not because you're still going to need to have guys out there running around and stuff.
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I think he needs to be the guy that Jackson can rely on to the open when he absolutely needs him to be open every game, every play, Uh, every quarter of every week.
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Joe tell us about Hollywood Brown, all right, so both of you guys made very, very, very good points, and you won't hear me argue against either of you about the points you made.
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I think you both were spot on about both of your points.
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However, there are some things that you guys air overlooking.
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The first thing being that he was not fully healthy all season.
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Last year, he had two big screws in his feet.
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Now that's it's pretty tough to play football and to be running full speed with those two big screws in your feet.
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We got those removed.
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He's put on a lot of weight.
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Actually, I don't know if you guys I mean, obviously you're probably not following this closely as a Ravens fan is probably.
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But he's putting in a lot of work.
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And believe me, I was like my Ravens fans already know that.
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Watch my stuff.
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I was not a big Hollywood Brown fan before the draft.
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I was not at all big on Hollywood. Brown.
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I did not like him.
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Um, but then, you know, after I saw his rookie season and I saw this connection that you just cannot explain between him and Lamar, I think it has a lot to do with that.
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They grew up in the same area down there in South Florida.
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I mean, it's crazy that as that sounds, they have this connection that you just cannot explain.
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And I think we're going to see a lot more of that and another reason that I wanted to talk about Hollywood Brown being the breakout is because I think Ravens fans would want me to mention like a J.
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K.
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Dobbins or something which actually is exactly the reason I chose Hollywood.
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Brown is because I think are running backs are going to be a nightmare and I throw Lamar in there, and I know there's the joke about Lamar being a running back, and that's not what I'm saying.
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But the fact that the fact of the matter is Lamar is an amazing runner.
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So him along with Mark Ingram, J.
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K.
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Dobbins, Gust Edwards, Injustice Hill that's gonna be a nightmare for defense is.
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And guess what? You just have to slip one time and Hollywood is gonna beat you over the top, go all the way to the house.
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I miss Understood what you said by nightmare.
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I thought you said it was gonna be bad. I was shocked.
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They're proposing defense's closing defense's So yeah, the Which is why I actually think you're right, Ray, that if he hits anything less than 800 yards, it will be a disappointment for me as well as for a lot of people.
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So, yeah, I am expecting him to have a very big year coming into his second season.
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And also another thing that Lawrence brought up is that he would disappear sometimes, which I think is a fair point.
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But to be fair, we didn't really have many other options, you know, receiving options for Lamar Jackson.
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So if Hollywood was getting shut down, I mean, of course you have Mark Andrews.
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But if Mark Andrews is hurt, he might not be an option, either.
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So we didn't really have too many options other than a Miles Boykin who was OK, Willie Snead, whose Okay, you know, chain mover.
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But we didn't really have many options, so that's that's just But aside from that, I think I agree with everything you guys said.
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And that's why he couldn't disappear the way he did.
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Because your options were limited.
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You had him.
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And basically you're tight ends.
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Yeah, exactly.
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So large.
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They have anywhere bottled what Joe had to say about Mr Brown.
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What? I just said that.
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All right, so hopefully this this next one put sparks a little bit more debate.
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I think I was a pretty tame one, right.
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But I gotta tell you guys, Joe, I think through both of us for a loop today because we're waiting for his two breakout players.
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And is it Tyus that I say that right? Is it? Yep.
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Highest Bowser 2000 and 17.
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Draft pick.
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Outside linebacker.
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Yep.
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Ravens fans air hating me a swell, by the way.
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Just letting.
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I'm sure they are right now because I was familiar with, you know, with Bowser, but not overly think so.
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I watched, like 5 10 minutes of film on marquees.
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Ah, I want about 5 10 minutes and all our players that we're talking about today.
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I spent 45 minutes doing my thing, looking up what people wrote about him watching.
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Try finding tape about the guy.
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Two men you've got to really dig on YouTube to get.
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So I got more college stuff, was hard to get NFL stuff on, right? But here's what I got about him.
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Obviously fast, athletic, explosive.
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That's what I really liked about him.
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Ah, he can be.
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He's really good on the edge, getting after the quarterback.
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I think that he could actually be a nightmare.
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One thing I really liked about him and this was a lot of his NFL highlights.
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That's what I really liked about him for the limited time you played.
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Now, he was limited in this snaps, but here's what I liked about him.
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He has closing speed, which means if the running back can get into that second level he can shut them down A lot of times.
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Once a running back gets to the linebackers, they're able to maneuver and get themselves free.
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He can stop them at that 45 yard and not let up those extra sick, you know, 3456 yards to get close to that first down.
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That was one thing I really, really liked about him.
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But even with his limited place, still got to the quarterback 8.
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5 times in the last three years.
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And I absolutely love that.
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Now this.
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I had to research because I couldn't have told you this, But this was a consensus like God from him.
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And I think this probably could be his problem in the NFL.
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And then I'll tell you why.
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I think the Ravens will keep him forever.
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He gets worn down very easy.
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That's every that's all the at Cabrini Buns.
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He gets worn down against physical blockers.
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Ah, and that's everything which is concerning late in the game when you need your deep when your defense is already wearing out.
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If he gets worn down by physical blocking and you're going up against a team like you guys have the Colts this year.
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You have to face the in Annapolis.
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Cool.
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It's That's an offensive line that's gonna bang hard.
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That's a game that Bowser could completely disappear in, Not because he's not talented.
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He's a little undersized, but that doesn't really matter.
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It doesn't mean he's not talented.
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But if he's getting broken down, that's where I could see him kind of stopping.
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But he's a high motor guy, high effort guy.
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That's perfect for the Ravens system.
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I've seen John Harbaugh very similar to Bill Belichick, so I take this as a compliment.
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I've seen Harbaugh take guys with attitudes, a good like those kind of attitudes, like Bala checked us and turned them into superstars, not necessarily because of their talent, but because they fit that system the way their their attitudes and build up.
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So even if his play limits, I could see him as a leader of this team very soon because that's really a lead by example.
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And to me, even though he's struggling and I don't see him as your breakout player this year, his I'm assuming that his attitude on the field is probably the same as his practice attitude I seem is a perfect raven player in that locker room.
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You kept Lawrence man going over your stinking defensive roster.
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And I'm like, Holy crap.
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Oh, you got to see Jude on Bowser Ferguson.
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He got all these guys, man.
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And I think, didn't you get Jacksonville's guy too? Campbell? Yep.
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Guess yeah.
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Oh, my God.
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So Derek Wolfe from the Broncos as well, and we're talking about Taya's power eso.
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Anyway, that's my problem.
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He got 5 5.
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5 sacks or something last year, which is which is impressive.
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But now you've got all these extra big name guys that are that aren't necessarily super big time pass rushers.
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Like, You know, Campbell's not known for Pastor is mostly known for, you know, clogging that middle.
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But he does have very impressive up the middle pass rush ability.
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Wolf has got some pass rush ability.
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You obviously you got Jude on there.
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I mean, you tagged him for a reason.
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Um, for him to break out, somebody's gonna have to disappear.
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That's that's how I see it.
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I mean, because you added, even though you didn't add anything past rush wise in the draft, you added that type of ability in in, um, the off season when it come to free agency, and that's that's gonna put a lot of work on him now.
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The one thing that it could help him with is the fact that everybody is going to be worried about the other players when it comes to blocking.
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And he's a nobody right now, so he'll be left one on one or even forgotten about it times, so that could help him early.
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But if he starts toe, as you say, begin to break out early in the season and start to make a name for himself, I think if he breaks out too early in the season, I think you might start to see that kind of level out a little bit.
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This team start to realize that he's there and he's got some speed inability.
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Joe, before you give your sort of a bottle in your points, can I ask you a question, please? It kind of just popped up to my So let's say the whole Ed Reed thing goes to hell in a handbasket.
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Would even I know that while the Ravens have talked about just trying to get out of his contract, and I know they can't.
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But let's just say things and badly with that read, right? Is Bowser athletic enough to convert toe a strong safety? Uh, no.
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No. So he's not fast enough.
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What is 40 something to me? Yeah, he's so OK.
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Do you think about it? Is how, though he is athletic.
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But the thing about Bowser is that he's more your typical 34 outside linebacker.
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That's what I would say.
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He's very more like, you know, in the box.
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He will rush the passer, but he's more so he's gonna drop back into coverage.
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He's gonna make plays near the line of scrimmage.
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He's gonna tackle the runner, you know, play the ball a little bit more.
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But the reason I chose Tyus Bowser to break out and believe me, I know this is not a popular opinion amongst Ravens fans at all.
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In fact, people think I'm crazy when I say this, But the reason I said this is you know, Ravens fans probably wanted me to mention like Jalen Ferguson, who calls himself sacked Daddy.
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I call him Pressure Daddy because he has not earned the name sect that yet Because he has not get any ***.
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You still getting pressure? So we need to see some *** from sac Daddy before I can give him that name.
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Um, but yes.
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So I'm not expecting much from jail in Ferguson just yet.
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The reason I said Tyus Bowser's because, yes, we added so many, you know, additions to this defensive line, no doubt about it.
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Coleus, Campbell, Derek Wolfe.
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And I'm sure we're gonna have some packages.
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Or we have Kallias Campbell rushing off the edge because he's so versatile.
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He's versatile enough to do that, because just that's just what our defense does.
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Man Wink Martindale is very creative.
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But the reason I think Tyus Bowser is because everybody is going to be so focused on this defensive line, right? Or Jude on? We just friend.
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He's the franchise player.
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We just franchise tagged him.
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You gotta watch out for Jude on.
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I think Tyus Bowser is gonna have the type of year that za Darius Smith had because the year prior that za Darius Smith had his breakout season Baltimore and he got paid by the Packers.
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Nobody really knew who he was.
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It's the same thing with Tyus Bowser.
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Nobody really knows who he is.
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Unless you're a Ravens fan, he's going to come in.
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He may not have, like, a type of eight sack season.
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He might not be very high in ***, but I could see him getting 67 sacks, have some tackles, have really good numbers, and I think he's gonna get overpaid.
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And I don't think it's gonna be by the Ravens.
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But since it's his contract year, he's gonna break out because he wants to get paid.
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That's really the main.
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My main argument.
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Isn't it a contract here? I thought he was drafted in 17.
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No, it's this contract here.
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It is his contract here.
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Okay, so So he needs a big year than just financially.
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Exactly.
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That's what I'm saying.
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So he's gonna break out.
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We've seen it time and time again.
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We have like, a factory.
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We just push out outside linebackers, defensive lineman.
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That's what the Ravens do.
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And I think Tyus Bowser is that next piece coming out of this factory.
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So that's the reason I chose him.
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So you got nothing to say to that? Well, I want so, yeah.
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Um, he already said it.
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Um, no, you pretty much said exactly what I said.
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You know, the other great gonna have to be focused on that, you know, on that front line in order.
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And that's going to help him.
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But being an outside line, do you say is gonna drop back in coverage? You mean this £243 guys going toe covering, receiving tied ends like Kelsey and more like covering them or run at more? Yeah, covering the flat covering running backs that's going to be covering.
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So he's going to be more in his own coverage to the right thing and then covering running backs and men.
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Okay, that's very similar to a Patriots defense.
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How? Linebackers second bone and then cover.
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Ah, covered in Gore.
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Yeah, come up.
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Look like they're getting ready to pass Rush and Banco.
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And that's how they get their picks.
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Yep.
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Cool to do that.
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A lot in their zone.
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So, um, no, I kind of agree with it with what you said there, because, like I said, he's gonna have to be just completely forgotten about while he's on the field.
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And once he's not, he doesn't have to be completely forgotten belt to actually produce.
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I think he'll produce because he is quick.
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He's to 40 three's.
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What did you do? Hello.
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Well, he's six foot 32 and 1/2 22.
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It's a pretty big boy.
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He's athletic, though, Like Ray was saying for sure.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So but what was his, um, forces three cone.
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Just curious.
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I couldn't find anything about his combine school.
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He might not have ran at the combine.
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It's no in the NFL has, like, archived all like the older combines stuff.
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And it's all gone now off the Really? Yeah.
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Again, I can't get anything passed in 2019.
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I hate their new set up.
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Yeah, I weird.
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You go in the draft network and get profiles and stuff for, like, William Sports, but you can't get combines scores.
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Yeah, you're right. That checks.
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I see so many people.
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So many people talk about how big a 40 time is.
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In my opinion, the three cone is by far the most important speed agility work out that you could do.
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But because it shows how fast you get in and out of your brakes, how quickly you can go from from.
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Ah, uh, I gotta hear it.
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I got it here, OK? He ran his three code in 6.
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75 Okay, go.
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That's a good time.
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A 4.
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6 40 you know, it really is only got it.
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He's only got a 37 vertical.
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That's where he wouldn't fit into the strong safety spot.
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Though he's not that on being strong.
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Safety is mostly a box safety.
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Anyhow, he could be like a money.
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Well, but what it is, But you got to take on tight ends, right? Yeah, I think.
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Yeah, I don't think he could.
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Well, yeah, like covering running backs in that just short stuff.
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He can do that for sure.
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That's that's the type of player he is.
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He's He's more of like that.
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That traditional 34 outside linebacker for sure.
00:21:51
All right, so and let me let me let me throw one more thing out there.
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I think Ravens fans wanted me to mention Patrick Queen who was our first round pick.
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But I never I never want to say rookies.
00:22:02
They're gonna break out because we haven't seen him play in the NFL.
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We don't know what to expect from them just yet.
00:22:07
So that's the reason I hate when people talk.
00:22:09
I hate when people put expectations on rookies.
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It's I saw it with McKeel Harry the last year, and I was thought, You know what? When Sony Michelle was drafted, I said, let the kid just play.
00:22:20
You mean don't have expectations? Then I put expectations on McKeel.
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Harry.
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Well, I'd not He wasn't listening to me, but, you know, I mean, I had all these expectations and lies down.
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You never know how a rookie is going to perform.
00:22:32
And actually, one of the guys we're gonna talk about today is Was there was a rookie last season for ah uh, right? Yes.
00:22:39
Yeah, last year.
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Ah, for Lawrence's guys.
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And he's a guy.
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That injury really killed expectations, right? Oh, yeah.
00:22:46
That's a good transition, Joe.
00:22:47
If you're OK if we move into that now. Okay.
00:22:51
Lawrence, you did You do this on purpose? Your two guys you pick, cause you take two guys very near and dear to my heart.
00:22:57
I just Yeah.
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After after I picked off like multi boys Ohio State, you You picked you three you picked to Ohio State Buckeyes, and I was just like, Oh, Lord, I have my heart fluttered.
00:23:11
Let me tell you something if you go back to Ah 2017.
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Was that when Malik Quiz drafted? No.
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Yes, everything.
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20 Khaleeq Hooker was 2017.
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That's when I started doing YouTube videos.
00:23:29
I did Patriot videos only, but I did a 25 minute video on Hooker because we just loved him in Ohio.
00:23:36
But he needs to have a big season.
00:23:38
Fifth year option declined.
00:23:41
What was he, the 15th overall pick or something of that nature? Something like that fifth year option declined.
00:23:47
If you're a first round draft pick, you almost guaranteed to get your 50 year picked up.
00:23:51
It gets declined.
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Staying healthy is gonna be a big thing for him and being consistent on the field Now.
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One thing that I I realized as a as a um, whether it's through my research here is that he's showing some of the talent and explosive play making that he can make that we know from the Ohio days.
00:24:14
But he's been inconsistent.
00:24:15
I got a quote here from your defensive coordinator, whose last name I couldn't pronounce so I didn't write it down.
00:24:20
What is it? A bird flu? Even if loose? I understand why it's so hard, he said.
00:24:30
If you are going to be an All Pro player or a high performance starter, Consistency just has to be there.
00:24:36
And he was talking directly about Malik Hooker and I like I said, I love the kid.
00:24:41
I think he's got all the talent in the world.
00:24:43
My concern about him having a breakout year in India.
00:24:46
Plane for India.
00:24:47
All is. You guys play a lot of high safety.
00:24:49
He's so much better as a split zone guy.
00:24:51
Um, at least from a consistency standpoint now he played a lot of high zone in Ohio, so it's really shocking me that he can't find his spot in Indianapolis.
00:25:02
But I'm gonna tell you why.
00:25:03
I don't think it's gonna be his breakout year, and it has nothing to do with him.
00:25:06
And I think that it has everything to do with Julian Blackmon and ah, and and I think that they believe that that's his replacement.
00:25:17
And it's unfortunate like I look, you know, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna dog on Ohio guy.
00:25:21
I'm gonna find everything great to say about them.
00:25:23
Look, he's a great kid.
00:25:25
His consistency is bad.
00:25:26
And that's what has really killed him.
00:25:28
Because if you look at him, he's fast. He's strong.
00:25:30
He's big.
00:25:31
He can open field tackle.
00:25:32
He's not afraid for contact.
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He can get dirty if he needs to get dirty.
00:25:36
But he's had brilliant moments and he said non brilliant moments.
00:25:40
And remember, I think it was against the Chiefs when the defense looked phenomenal was against the Chiefs and he was the only one making look stupid. Your enemy.
00:25:49
When he's on the fields getting play against cheese and on cheese, what game was it that they they played? They played okay.
00:25:56
They did look good against the Chiefs, but it wasn't him that was doing that, Um, but against the Chargers, Week one, he made a great play in the end zone.
00:26:07
But, um, and then against Denver, he played very well.
00:26:12
Uh, but he missed, I think, three or four games last year, just sporadically due to injury.
00:26:20
And that 1st 1 happened.
00:26:21
A big X game was the cheese. Give me miss.
00:26:24
Yeah, he's missed at least two games every year, That's what I saw in his injury report.
00:26:27
Right, Joe? What do you think of Mr Hooker? Who, by the way, is a great name, right? It says the best name ever, right? Eso I gotta admit, I didn't know much because I didn't really scout Milly, I gotta be honest.
00:26:40
This back back then, I was not, like, into the scouting game at all.
00:26:44
I was just, you know, barely like getting interested in college football.
00:26:48
Eso Ah, I don't really remember much of him in Ohio, in Ohio State, but what I will say what I do remember hearing from, like, those draft ****ysts guys, you know, Is that a comparison? Ed Reed, Right.
00:27:02
So that wakes you up.
00:27:04
You're like, Oh, okay.
00:27:06
And just looking at his numbers like he's nowhere even near that if you're just looking at his numbers, right.
00:27:11
And of course, injuries are a big part of it.
00:27:14
And I think consistency might be also a swell, but, um, yeah, I mean, right now, I don't think he's lived up to his first round pick.
00:27:21
If it was me saying it just, you know, from an outsider's perspective, flake, I mean, seven picks and three years isn't bad.
00:27:28
It's But it's not, You know, top level safety like you were expecting when you drafted Malik Hooker, in my opinion, so I do think he's disappointed a little bit.
00:27:38
But of course he's still young.
00:27:40
He has some more potential to grow, and this could be that season, All right, so here I go.
00:27:47
Last year was his most most healthy year that he's had all season.
00:27:51
And because of that, Malik Hooker ended up playing near the line of scrimmage like a strong safety more than he played at single high.
00:28:01
Go back.
00:28:02
If you ever go back and watch tapes, you will watch him up playing against the run a lot, which is unbelievable.
00:28:09
Why, why in the broke would you do that when you have strong safety position on the field? At the same time? I never understood that.
00:28:16
Also, Malik Hooker was not drafted for this defense.
00:28:23
Malik Hooker was drafted when Chuck Pagano was still the head coach, so and Chuck Pagano at the time was running a 34 completely different style and more of a man coverage, right? They've got Hincker playing in a position.
00:28:43
Me, he not only was a young, but he had to flip schemes.
00:28:49
Then he gets hung his 1st 2 year season ending injuries his 1st 2 years.
00:28:56
Last year, he finally starts to get semi healthy, and they start playing them in a weird wait.
00:29:03
More, more, more against the run than then, then saving against the deep past.
00:29:07
You would if you would watch like, um, against the Buccaneers.
00:29:13
Ah, shoot Western through like 500 yards against the Colts.
00:29:19
All right, and like four passes that went over 40 yards and three of those Malik Hooker was within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage when the ball was from, which is not worry Supposed to be.
00:29:36
I do like the fact that you brought up Julian Blackmon.
00:29:39
Doh Ray Julian Blackmon is an interesting fit because he could play free safety very, very well because he started off as a quarterback, you know, But he's hurt, right? He's gonna take a while for him to get into into shape.
00:29:59
I think that first four weeks of this season will be make or break for hooker, and I think it poker actually comes out and my neighbor foods place him, like you say, maybe split safety.
00:30:15
I would love to see him and Blackmon out there together, right? That such that he's so much stronger in a split zone with safeties than he is a single high.
00:30:24
I would like if they would change that safety division, that safety set and put them to a split zone.
00:30:30
I think every cold spam would be in love with him.
00:30:32
Yeah, I like him and Blackman splitting, splitting the deep.
00:30:36
But the problem is the Colts have a very good strong safety right now on Qari Willis.
00:30:40
That was a rookie last year is well, and, uh, he's a box safety that's just absolutely monstrous when it comes to run support.
00:30:50
Um, but I think, yeah, if Maliki can just cover 1/2 of the deep ball hiss, speed, athleticism and ball hawking skills will be, like 10 times more apparent then what they have been the first couple of years.
00:31:11
So that's that's my thought process on Malik Hooker.
00:31:14
I mean, I can't argue your thought process. I love Hooker.
00:31:17
I love Molly cooker.
00:31:18
I think he's been used wrong in Indianapolis, which is becoming a common theme in our conversations, Lawrence would have different players.
00:31:26
Um, yeah.
00:31:27
And I think if they could put him into some sort of split zona are double high instead of that single high defense.
00:31:32
And you're right.
00:31:33
Hookers should be nowhere near the line of scrimmage doing run support.
00:31:37
He should be back.
00:31:38
And I I'd like to see him go in man coverage.
00:31:41
You mean our high safety over with a cornerback in double coverage? I think that again.
00:31:47
They just haven't youth.
00:31:48
Um, and I You know what? I never put it in until you said it.
00:31:51
He wasn't drafted for this defense.
00:31:53
He was drafted for professionals defense, which is a very different defense.
00:31:58
It's all gladly.
00:31:59
When he's a free agent next year, haven't signed with the Patriots.
00:32:05
Now get out.
00:32:06
Moving on to your next player.
00:32:08
I'm gonna preclude this for you guys.
00:32:10
Okay? Beyond this wall of soccer scarves in my studio area, I have my man cave.
00:32:18
I have to Onley too.
00:32:21
Autographed helmets, full size helmets.
00:32:24
I have an ugly ass purple and black helmet, but it's got a beautiful Ray Lewis signature on it.
00:32:30
Sounds like a beautiful helmet to me then and then I have a silver Ohio State Buckeyes helmet that has Campbell's autograph on it.
00:32:38
Okay, Lawrence, you missed out on having one of the best receivers in the league just because of pure bad luck.
00:32:50
Fractured hand, fractured foot, hamstring, abdominal.
00:32:54
I don't expect this to be a repeat, prepares Campbell this season.
00:32:58
I expect him to be somewhat healthy because what you go and and I think that he is gonna benefit from Philip Rivers and having Jacoby percent, I really do.
00:33:11
I think that Philip Rivers is a better quarterback for Campbell.
00:33:16
You've got a guy that ran a 4.
00:33:17
31 40 yard dash.
00:33:20
You've got a guy with big playability.
00:33:22
You've got a guy that can take a top off.
00:33:24
The defense can run almost every route that you want him to wrote Big time.
00:33:28
Speed can stretch.
00:33:29
The defense can run under routes.
00:33:31
His YAC yards can be absolutely phenomenal.
00:33:35
He's being compared to Tyree kill for his game breaking ability.
00:33:41
I don't have much more to add than that when we talk about all the guys, including the two that I picked when we talk about the guy who I think has the best chance of having that breakout season.
00:33:53
It's Mr Pairs Campbell.
00:33:55
He's just the kid is absolutely phenomenal again.
00:33:59
I could be biased because I could have my Ohio State shirt on right now thinking about this.
00:34:04
But, um, it's funny because, you know, Nick Eel Harry got roasted for his rookie year, which was very injury filled, missed half the season in Paris.
00:34:15
He kind of just flew under the radar.
00:34:17
You know, I mean, like, nobody was really getting mad at him and, yeah, able and well outside of Indianapolis.
00:34:24
But it wasn't, you know, front page stuff.
00:34:26
And but it's, ah, cold fans.
00:34:30
Listen, Lawrence, you can sit there and say that.
00:34:32
A Patriots fan, a Patriots fan, said this.
00:34:35
Next time you're talking to Colts fans, be patient with this kid.
00:34:38
He is.
00:34:39
He's gonna be a top 10 in the NFL if he stays healthy.
00:34:41
If this injury string continues, it just gets harder and harder, especially when you're dealing with feet issues.
00:34:49
We talked about it with Joe, talked with Hollywood, right, screws in your feet when you're dealing with feet issues and has had a leg and a foot issue.
00:34:56
But if he can stay healthy.
00:34:57
The kid is phenomenal, Joe.
00:34:59
It's up to you.
00:35:00
But who? Well, how do I follow that? You just heaped praises on this player, and I'm here to just totally bring the storm and just tear it all down.
00:35:11
But that's what I do.
00:35:12
I guess so.
00:35:13
Campbell, um, second round pick, obviously for the Indianapolis Colts.
00:35:19
I think it speaks a lot.
00:35:20
I mean, firstly, that they went ahead and took another receiver in the second round this year.
00:35:26
So I'm just saying that that speaks volumes right then and there.
00:35:29
Um, but Paris Campbell man went the little the very little that I did watch of Paris Campbell back in Ohio State because I, the Ravens, were linked to Paris Campbell there, like we were hearing Oh, Eric DeCosta loves Paris Campbell.
00:35:43
And I'm like, let me check this guy out What I saw.
00:35:45
And maybe he was just like I saw maybe one, maybe two games.
00:35:49
He looked to me like a very short, you know, short route receiver.
00:35:53
Very stays close to the line of scrimmage.
00:35:55
He's gonna do quick little, you know, curl routes.
00:35:58
He's very well.
00:35:59
He'll take it on you know, run after the catch.
00:36:02
You know, hey, can go deep occasionally, but I I think he would be more suited over the middle.
00:36:08
At least that was my impression of him.
00:36:10
Um, again.
00:36:12
And you know, Lawrence, you've seen plenty more about him that I have.
00:36:15
And same thing with you, Ray.
00:36:16
But that's just my impression of him.
00:36:18
And to be honest with you, I didn't have big expectations of bears.
00:36:22
Campbell.
00:36:23
I thought he would be a good complementary piece, but I don't know.
00:36:25
I just don't know.
00:36:26
Now that you drafted Michael Pittman, you have t y Hilton healthy.
00:36:30
He's, you know, t y Hilton, as far as I know, is a slot receiver. So he might.
00:36:34
I don't know if how that's gonna work with Paris, Campbell, but that's just my take. Lawrence.
00:36:39
What? What do you got? Men.
00:36:40
All right, First off, I understand you're takes because they're all outside of the UK not understanding what's going on.
00:36:49
Okay, So T y Hilton place all three positions at the wide receiver position. Got you.
00:36:55
He's played wide receiver.
00:36:56
One left.
00:36:57
He played wide receiver one, right? He's played slot each plate, but he t Why can do it all? He learned he learned from Reggie.
00:37:05
Reggie learned from Marvin, Andy, and Marvin is weird because Marvin put you knew where Marvin was.
00:37:10
Every every stinking time he the ball was snapped.
00:37:13
He was on the right side and he was always going to be on the right outside.
00:37:16
But Reggie wasn't like that, and he taught T y and now t Why could go everywhere on the field? That's what makes him so dangerous.
00:37:25
What the courts have it had in the recent years is a true big bodied number 1 50 50 catch ball guy.
00:37:35
That's why they went and got Michael Pittman, Paris Campbell and you are about dead, right? Paris Campbell is that slot guy, that guy that could go and run.
00:37:48
I'm telling you what, Had he been healthy, He had had a really good year with Rivers there.
00:37:55
He's gonna have an upstanding year.
00:37:58
Why? Because I can't think of too many other players in the NFL that could take a drag route the way Paris Campbell will be able to with Philip Rivers throwing him an absolutely, beautifully catchable football and watching him take that on the run and watch the kind of gak yards he's going to get after the catch.
00:38:18
Any kind of drag route, any kind of, uh, post seam route, any type of crossing pattern.
00:38:25
Oh my God, he'd be so dangerous on rub routes on scissor routes and things of that nature, Paris will be absolutely dangerous.
00:38:33
His takeoff.
00:38:35
It's so good that if the cornerback does not have at least seven yards off the line of scrimmage from him, he'll have to steps on him within 15 yards.
00:38:49
I've seen it over and over and over. It's it's scary.
00:38:52
The problem.
00:38:53
A lot of the problem was, was Jacoby beset? Just did not know how to take heat off a football when he threw the ball.
00:39:00
Now granted Paris persons injured almost the entire season last year.
00:39:06
So teens are not even going to be looking to cover Paris Campbell this year because they're going forget about him like you get joke people are not.
00:39:14
These teams are not going to forget about Paris.
00:39:16
Campbell.
00:39:18
Nice try, but I mean, you're gonna have t y Hilton, which they obviously have to account for you.
00:39:23
You're gonna have Michael Pittman Jr on the other side.
00:39:27
Michael Pittman on the other side.
00:39:30
They're going toe have to account for You're gonna have your third corner covering Paris.
00:39:35
Campbell, Paris.
00:39:37
Campbell's gonna eat a lot.
00:39:39
He's gonna be Tyree kill man.
00:39:40
He's going to be Tyree kill for Philip Rivers.
00:39:43
I think so, too.
00:39:44
I think I think you're going to see where he'll catch a lot of passes between, um, the three yard and eight yard from beyond the line of scrimmage.
00:39:57
But you're gonna end up seeing that he'll take those an additional 5 to 10 yards as well just because you know what he could do after he catch as long as he's catching it and he's moving while he's catching it.
00:40:08
He is so dangerous, so dangerous, like you say, just like Tyreek Hill.
00:40:14
Well, as I sat here and complimented to Ohio State boys, which I absolutely love, we now have to move on to a Michigan wolverine of already as we get into Ah, the New England Patriots.
00:40:28
So I don't know who wants to start, But my first breakout for my defensive player is Chase win a ***** this season.
00:40:35
I can start.
00:40:36
Um, okay, So I did check this guy out because he was You know, it feels like we always need edge rushers.
00:40:45
You know, it's it's one of those positions the Ravens always need is along with wide receiver.
00:40:50
It's address or so Chase, one of which was definitely one of those guys.
00:40:54
Um, he reminded me like and I know, um, he's like the white Terrell Suggs.
00:41:01
You know, the way he plays, or at least what I saw.
00:41:04
Um, so I was pretty high on this guy.
00:41:07
I'm like, Yeah, let's try to take him in the second and the third.
00:41:10
I think he'll fit this defense perfectly.
00:41:12
And lo and behold, a team that, you know, runs very similar style.
00:41:16
Defense is, too, that we do the New England Patriots.
00:41:18
They go ahead and take Chase.
00:41:19
Win a *****.
00:41:20
Um, so you know, I could definitely see he again.
00:41:23
He's like the perfect patriot looks, you know, aside.
00:41:28
Ah, he definitely seems to fit that Patriots defense.
00:41:32
No doubt about it.
00:41:33
So I could definitely see why you picked him Ray to be your breakout candidate.
00:41:39
I like Jason of it.
00:41:41
Pretty good.
00:41:42
I mean, but this is New England.
00:41:44
Yeah, right.
00:41:45
it could be someone that we assume is going to be 1/3 string starter this year.
00:41:50
And then, Ah, you know, Mr Bill is gonna bring a mountain go.
00:41:56
Yeah, he's going to be the star this year, and I'm going to trade him off for a first round in the third round pick.
00:42:02
Yeah, that's that's just what they do.
00:42:04
So what I want to know is, even though, yes, he did, he had a pretty good see.
00:42:11
I'm sitting here looking.
00:42:12
I mean, yet by sacks, he had some tackles every game, every game he was that he did not have a stat lis game all season.
00:42:22
Uh, was your bye week 10 last year? Yep. Okay.
00:42:28
So, yeah, that the only stat lis week was week 10.
00:42:32
So good thing it is a very good Yeah, that's impressive, actually, since he was a rookie last year, right? He was.
00:42:40
Yep.
00:42:41
And he was primarily used on third down, obvious past situations.
00:42:45
So that's that's very impressive.
00:42:48
My only question is, is he gonna his size, which I move? What about 2 50? I think so.
00:42:59
He's about to pity he should be able Toby on all three down defensive end.
00:43:05
Um, well, not for a 34 though.
00:43:11
No, but the not for 34 And if you're done, all go.
00:43:15
What if you're not gonna let go ahead Chase winner, which is gonna become a hybrid this year of an outside linebacker and add rusher? We called the the Rob Ninkovich role in New England, and it's something that Belichick likes tohave.
00:43:29
And Kyle Van Noy sort of played this role last year where you have a guy playing an outside linebacker position but also setting the edge.
00:43:36
And we think, at least my opinion, a lot of Patriot fans.
00:43:38
We all believe the Chase winner, which is gonna move into that position.
00:43:42
It's also very Bill Bill Bell check in to when you have a guy who you see as the future guy to limit him in his rookie season.
00:43:50
I mean, if you were running back, you're going to be red shirted.
00:43:52
Hence, my next guy we're going to talk about with defensive players, you're going to get your limited opportunities.
00:43:58
Um, but being just 1/3 down guy, he came up with 26 tackles, 5.
00:44:03
5 sacks.
00:44:04
I believe he blocked a punt.
00:44:06
This or a punt this year to which led to a touchdown, or he ran it in for tight.
00:44:10
He got into his hands on the ball, something he did, something with a punt that turned into a touchdown.
00:44:14
This year, Um, you know Suiza too easy to team guy and special teams and defense.
00:44:19
Um, when you're looking, I'm coming out of college.
00:44:21
166 tackles and three years.
00:44:23
43 of those were for losses.
00:44:25
18.5 sacks.
00:44:26
He forced three fumbles, recovered three balls, Um, again, like a like a like a Ravens defence, the same as the Patriots.
00:44:33
He's a motor guy.
00:44:34
He's a high effort guy, high octane guy.
00:44:37
He plays like an absolute animal.
00:44:39
He was projected to go in the second round.
00:44:41
A lot of ****ysts, when the Patriots got him the third round last year, were calling him the steal of the draft.
00:44:47
Being able to get him is deep into the third round.
00:44:49
I think he was our second pick in the third round two.
00:44:51
I could be wrong on that, but we took two guys in third round.
00:44:55
Um, but I think at the end of the two is is when you look at this Patriots team, this is gonna be predicated on a deep on the defense being a top five and the special teams being a top 10 and win if it has to contribute in both of those.
00:45:07
So that's why I believe that he's gonna be our Braco guy this year, cause I think just because his role is going to expand so much, But you're still gonna have Dante High Tower beside him, whose gonna be sort of the field general for those guys to make sure that everybody's where they need.
00:45:22
Do you think he's going to be a high sec type of guy or he's going to be more of like a balance? You know, he's going to be more balanced because he can play the run to he sets an edge in the run.
00:45:31
And that's something that that we didn't get to see last year.
00:45:33
But I got the watch him a few times in Michigan when he played Ohio State and he can really set an edge.
00:45:39
Um, so I think we're going to see more of that.
00:45:41
I think I like to see him with his fingers in the dirt More than standing up the Patriots standing up a lot.
00:45:48
Ah, but I believe that we're going to see him kind of all over the field.
00:45:52
And if you ever look up Rob Ninkovich, he was remember, Yeah, tournament to a very hybrid type of players so he could have his fingers in the dirt and the drop back into coverage.
00:46:02
You know what I mean? Like, he was that type of guy and I think that now Chase isn't necessarily going to be covering too many people, but you could see him drop in the zones and he's got enough athleticism to do that.
00:46:13
And you get after the quarterback if need be.
00:46:15
Um, I The thing is, is with the Patriots draft this year, bringing in a guy like Kyle Duggar who could be a strong safety and kind of coming as an edge thing.
00:46:22
Staying with UK is what you can do is is, um, give him an expanded role and use those guys is your third down pass rushers and allow chase to sort of be on the field more.
00:46:32
Last year, I think he was on the field for like 31% of the plays or something like that.
00:46:37
I expect him to be closer to the 50 60%.
00:46:40
And I mean, the top Patriots only gonna play about 50% of a playwright.
00:46:44
That's how balletic rotates his defense.
00:46:46
So I would expect him to be out there for about at least 50% of the place, and that's why I see him being the breakout.
00:46:51
All right, My second guy is somebody you may not be too familiar with because the probably a lot probably a lot of Patriots fans aren't too familiar with.
00:47:00
But it's a former Alabama running back who I think dressed for one game last season.
00:47:05
But I think my breakout offensive players will be Damian Harris.
00:47:09
Wow, who wants to talk with that one first? Well Oh, go ahead, Lawrence.
00:47:14
Go ahead.
00:47:15
No, go ahead.
00:47:16
I'm still watching, but I'm kind of impressed.
00:47:18
You're You're impressed by Damian Harris a little bit. Okay.
00:47:22
So as I understand it, correct me from wrong.
00:47:25
Ray.
00:47:26
Damian Harris is more of like a power style runner.
00:47:28
Correct? There's correct.
00:47:29
He's our power guy.
00:47:31
So I think I know why you chose Damon Harris.
00:47:34
Because you've told us many, many times that this Patriots team is just gonna be a run first team.
00:47:40
Right? So you're expecting this running game with Sony, Michelle and Damian Harris.
00:47:44
You know, it's a type of thunder and lightning connection.
00:47:47
I think you're expecting Damian Harris to be your type of liger blunt roller, maybe like a Jonas Gray roll.
00:47:53
Right? That type of running back, um, which is fair.
00:47:56
And I could see why you would say that he will break out because that's just the type of offense that Bill Biology is going to try to run with this power back and this thunder and lightning thing, we'll see how it goes. Men.
00:48:08
Uh, I mean, he could pretty much come out and have, like, 300 yards, and that would even be an improvement because he's done nothing so far.
00:48:15
So, like, three Cherries, Right, So that's a pretty safe pick, I'd say.
00:48:22
All right, so I'm sitting here right now, actually watching Ah, some all 20 to open while he was in Alabama.
00:48:30
And this kid has got a very nice first step off the ball.
00:48:35
Very nice.
00:48:36
And he's got ah, really good kind of tight moves.
00:48:41
I like to call him tight moves where you don't really move a whole lot side to side, but just enough to where his power is able to get by.
00:48:49
You on an arm tackle.
00:48:51
Um, kind of to kind of get defenders off their balance.
00:48:56
I actually think that I think he should.
00:49:00
I think, honestly, I washed Michelle.
00:49:02
I think he should start over him.
00:49:04
Hey, that right? Let me address that, then.
00:49:11
First of all, Daming hair is not playing next year.
00:49:13
Should not worry any Patriot fans or anybody out there.
00:49:16
Bill Belichick, Red shirting.
00:49:17
A rookie running back is nothing new.
00:49:19
Almost every single running back minus Sony, Michelle has been red shirted James White, Shane Marine.
00:49:25
They've all been red shirted.
00:49:26
They don't start, he doesn't stay, always sits.
00:49:29
And plus, when you look at the Patriots running back corps last year that James White, Sony Michelle Brandon Bolden, Rex Burkhead, they already had a full running back corps.
00:49:38
You couldn't put him in gray.
00:49:41
I actually agree with you.
00:49:43
1 million% Lawrence that Damian Harris.
00:49:48
If he shows he can do in the NFL when he didn't call.
00:49:51
It should start over. Sony.
00:49:53
Michelle.
00:49:54
I lost a lot of faith in Sony Michelle last season, not because he can't run.
00:50:01
Not because he's not fast.
00:50:02
Not because he can't, you know, do things.
00:50:05
Sony.
00:50:06
Michelle can't break a tackle, and that became very, very concerning to.
00:50:11
Now, is it true that he was in Belichick's doghouse? As you know, the national media says he had to have been.
00:50:18
I mean, he just I think he went from his.
00:50:22
His rookie year, he was averaging 4.
00:50:23
5 yards per run and he dropped on a 3.
00:50:26
5 last year.
00:50:28
And the people what happened? It's a sop****re slump.
00:50:30
No, we had full backs injured, an offensive line problems.
00:50:34
And so when I started watching his rookie season over again, I was just flicking through and watching over again.
00:50:41
The holes were the size of my ba*****t that he was running through you what I mean and that's I was getting.
00:50:46
But what I realized was even back in his rookie year, nine of the 10 times he was going down on first contact.
00:50:54
If you're going to be sort of the primary, every down running back.
00:50:58
Seven at it are, you know, at least 34 out of 10 runs you have to break.
00:51:03
You have to shed a tackler.
00:51:05
You what? I mean, at least 40% of the time, you need to break a tackle.
00:51:08
You can't run at 10% of the time breaking attack.
00:51:12
Look at Mark Ingram.
00:51:13
He was at least a 30 40% guy that could break out.
00:51:16
That's my concern with Sony.
00:51:18
Michelle Damian Harris.
00:51:20
Number one fits the Patriots offense.
00:51:22
Not just because you could be a power under, but because it's a platoon and the Patriots really do running back by committee.
00:51:27
And that's what he had in Alabama. He was.
00:51:30
He was a committee running back.
00:51:31
Otherwise, the stats would've been way higher.
00:51:33
Is he only hit like 800 yards? He had 1000 yards first years.
00:51:36
The only reason he had 800 yards is his final year in Ah, in Alabama was because I think they had four running backs.
00:51:42
They were all platooning itself.
00:51:43
He still ended up with 800 yards.
00:51:45
They had just Jacobs.
00:51:46
I believe they did.
00:51:47
Yeah, he still ended up with a college career of 6.
00:51:50
4 yards per run.
00:51:53
You know, I mean, and I don't expect that in the NFL, but I expect a 4.
00:51:56
54 point seven.
00:51:58
You mean sort of that area? Um, he's not really used in the past in game.
00:52:03
I think he had 52 catches or something like that in college for a couple of touchdowns, But I'm gonna go back to the Miami Dolphin game.
00:52:10
I'm gonna go back to the Tennessee Titans game on, you know, first and goals.
00:52:14
And we couldn't punch the ball into the end zone and had to settle for field goals cause Saudi Michele couldn't break through the offensive line because we didn't have a traditional full back.
00:52:23
Um, that can't happen this year.
00:52:25
I mean, we all know, Look, I've already said it Realistically, the Patriots are gonna go ate and ate, and I've said that I think that when I look at it realistically, there in eight and a team, But if good, if they're now saying that, we don't know how Jared Stadium is going to perform, and you can't really make those decisions until you see it.
00:52:43
He's not established like Lamar.
00:52:45
He's not established, like Philip Rivers.
00:52:46
You what? I mean, he's We've never seen the kid play the way I have been for the Patriots toe. Have success.
00:52:52
Maybe win 10 11 games and work their way into a playoff spot is the defense has to be a top five.
00:52:58
The special teams has to be a top 10 and the offense has to be a top 15 right? Even if their 15th they have to be a top 15.
00:53:06
If Jared Stadium can manage game properly and Damian hair is compound the ball, that's the only way I see the Patriots getting to that level of, you know, 10 11 wins, which I'm not saying they're going to, but that's the only way I see them getting there, and I don't think they can put it on Sony Michelle's back.
00:53:23
And I think they're gonna put a lot of this weight on Damian Harris this season and this big here for Sony because the Patriots got to decide whether or not they're using the fifth year option.
00:53:32
And I think just like, you know, Hooker, they're not gonna be using the fifth year option on them this year.
00:53:36
I think that he's gonna be a free agent.
00:53:38
And I think Damian Harris is gonna be the guy going forward even though Sony was our first round pick, you know, two years ago.
00:53:45
I love I'm sitting her watching Hiss size helps him out so much as welcomes.
00:53:51
He's a little dude and he'll be ableto lose people behind that massive offensive line that you guys, you guys, are known for having wide bodied offensive linemen, and he could hide behind those.
00:54:03
And since he's built low, he could get his arm up in the lower back of offensive linemen like you want on when you're, you know, first and goal at the one or two yard line and just kind of show forward.
00:54:16
Uh, he's the guy that yeah, I fully agree that he's the guy that you guys need to go with and with his little quick bursts, and he showed that he could catch the football as well.
00:54:27
From from the take that I was watching while you were talking and trying to listen to you at the same time, Uh, hey seems to be a pretty good player.
00:54:37
I I am surprised that he was red shirted like you said, though I mean, he's, uh, delish.
00:54:44
It does like the redshirt players, but especially running backs.
00:54:48
But my goodness, man, he's I think he's gonna be Ah! Oh, a well kept secret.
00:54:55
It's gonna bust out.
00:54:56
I agree with you.
00:54:58
Thank you.
00:54:59
Yeah, I'm really excited about Damian hairs.
00:55:00
Patriot fans were screaming.
00:55:01
I gotta just read this comments, you guys.
00:55:03
So our page it ban on SportsCastr.
00:55:06
What's funny? Michelle Not being able to break tackles, he just wrote Break a tackle question mark his runs into people and falls.
00:55:14
Which is exactly the way Sony Michelle played this year.
00:55:17
It's why he was so freakin frustrating.
00:55:20
And that's why I got Damon Harris as my my breakout guy.
00:55:23
Because, um, I think last year they put it in Sony's hands and said, Show us what you got, kid.
00:55:28
You know, um and you know what we kept hearing from the coaches, especially.
00:55:33
I've been fears the running back coach was We would even scratched the surface about good Sony.
00:55:37
Michelle is, and he just seemed What I saw last year was no full backs and a week offensive line.
00:55:43
He looked nothing like he did as a rookie.
00:55:46
Damian Hairs a small, but he's powerful, and he could get power back with his small size.
00:55:51
I agree he could get lost behind the offensive line, shed a tackle.
00:55:55
And I think that we might see him break off some of those 15 17 20 yard runs this year just because of his peers strength and, you know, stout sort of demeanor.
00:56:05
So it's it's what it is, and I want to go back.
00:56:08
Teoh Chase win a ***** for one second, if I can, because it was the point I wanted to make, and I forgot.
00:56:16
Now we've talked a few times, droll about slowing down Lamar Jackson.
00:56:19
We've all I think we've all agreed by now.
00:56:21
Well, Joe will always agree, but I think Lawrence, you and I have agreed by now.
00:56:23
You can't stop Lamar Jackson, but you can try to slow him down, right? Obviously, Chase winter, which to me, is a type of player that if the Patriots to get two or three of those kind of guys, those are the kind of guys that can slow down and chase.
00:56:35
Are Lamar Jackson not just because of their talented? He finds the ball very well.
00:56:41
You start in college and you saw it is limited time in the NFL, and that's the biggest thing about beating Lamar.
00:56:49
And you made that point to us when we're on your podcast was, you know, half the time, the guys up the field, you don't even know where the ball is. Yeah, you're to meet people.
00:56:56
Still ball watching, um, a guy like Chase winning, which is confined the ball.
00:57:01
And again, we'll have to study a little harder about how to find the ball against the Ravens, cause it's different all together.
00:57:06
It's a completely different offense, but and I think that that's the way we're going to start seeing defense is built is guys like Chase win a ***** some a little bit more athletic, some of them a little big, But I think it's going to be about versatility and guys that can line up kind of all over the place.
00:57:22
And guys, I confined the football because that's the only way you can slow down Lamar Jackson.
00:57:27
That's the only way it can happen.
00:57:28
Uh, because if you just have a bunch of really skilled guys, it's just gonna be watching, or you can play eight safeties and just get beat everywhere else.
00:57:37
You know what I mean? So it no, try that.
00:57:39
Now.
00:57:40
Try that nowadays.
00:57:41
You know, he and he's gonna run over you.
00:57:42
That's the thing about Lamar is so freaking strong.
00:57:44
You're just gonna run over you, right? Yeah.
00:57:47
So, boys, I mean, honestly, Joe, except for tight, tight tight is about a shadow.
00:57:52
Tyus Bowser, I think, you know, we all had some good plays there, and I mean, I hope Hauser works out.
00:57:56
I really do Like I really I like when players work.
00:57:59
Even if it's for TV.
00:58:00
Don't like, I don't like to see you guys have failed careers, you know, And again, I'm not.
00:58:05
This is not me saying that he's going to stay on the Ravens.
00:58:07
I don't think that I think he's going to play himself into a contract on another team, just like scenario Smith did.
00:58:13
And I mean, Za'darius Smith bawled out.
00:58:14
But there's very few, you know, linebackers that end up working out as much for other teams you'll find in the NFL history.
00:58:22
I C. J.
00:58:23
Mosley.
00:58:24
Well, I mean, he was hurt last year so.
00:58:26
But I know.
00:58:27
Hey, I'm glad we didn't pay him 17 milk. I agree.
00:58:30
I had never understand why people bought why people signed offensive players.
00:58:33
They're never the same players they were in New England.
00:58:36
They probably be the same in a place like Baltimore, because it's a similar defense.
00:58:39
You what I mean you are.
00:58:41
When you signed defensive players, you gotta find someone that's a scheme that Yeah, and I find sometimes these guys just get paid because of what they did the year before.
00:58:50
But then it's almost a guy like hooker.
00:58:52
He would he would be.
00:58:53
He would fit perfect into the Patriots defense right now, where he's not working in India because it's a different coach, you know what I mean? But then, if he goes to a team like Tampa, he's a mess again, like he is in Indianapolis.
00:59:03
You what? I mean, like, it's Ah, it's Ah, it's always strange.
00:59:08
Well, boys, we went an hour.
00:59:10
I knew we go on our It's why I didn't really ties with Thailand. Murray.
00:59:13
Anybody was here to hear about Kyla Murray.
00:59:15
We had no intention Way had no intentions of talking about Kyla Murray at all.
00:59:19
So we're just fooling you to come in again.
00:59:22
Guys, Thank you for tuning into SportsCastr news. As always.
00:59:25
Thank you to my partners in crime.
00:59:27
My colleagues, the SportsCastr news NFL crew, Joe Nouveau and Lawrence O.
00:59:33
And my name is Ray Route.
00:59:34
Thank you so much for tuning and take care.
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