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Dave, how are you doing today? How is your family? Are you guys staying healthy? Yeah, healthy and safe.
As you know, Trying to get through this like everyone else, has been a no kind of learning process, but you have no complaints from From my end, it's learning how to deal with it.
And I think we told them what we can Yeah, and I have to imagine, especially in your line of work, being that you're used to having, you know, access on the inside and following guys up close and and being able, you know, that's what you do.
You cover, you let us know the fans know what's going on.
The inside the organization.
How does that work without really being allowed anywhere near the facility right now? Yeah.
I mean, it's a little strange.
At the time of year, we would have, uh, would be starting o T A s.
We would have already had rookie minicamp, so the actual access inside the building isn't there right now.
So, you know, you kind of have to work at it a little bit more.
Um, and it's challenging from from that stance, but, uh, it's also rewarding.
I mean, you having to work for it makes a little more work while and I've actually noticed that at least so far, um, guys and and people who I talked to sources and and even interview subjects or willing to get back in here right now just because everyone kind of at home with that must do, right? Uh, yeah, it's People are getting back to me much more frequently now through phone calls and emails than normal.
And I think that's just because everyone's home.
And, uh so yeah, it well challenging, um, and it's just kind of dealing with it, you know, even when sports come back, I'm not sure exactly what covering a team will be like, at least in the beginning.
Um, I can't imagine we're gonna be in locker rooms for quite a while.
So, uh, is probably good practice for the future of hovering professional sports in the United States.
And I think that it's good practice for that.
We'll miss being in locker rooms.
I think that, um maybe some people don't understand the value in that, But it's not just interviewing players in the locker room.
It is always an awful thing.
Two B in locker rooms with professional athletes.
It's going to be any locker offered social situation.
But aside from just interviewing players in there, that's ah, an important time to build relationships and to gain trust, and without that, it's going to be more difficult.
It's going to change the way we do our jobs.
I think it's gonna hurt us in a lot of ways.
But you're not gonna hear me complaining about it much more than that, because it's kind of just the way things are right now.
We would ask full time ways to get around it.
Yeah, all Ah, all virtual press conferences and things of that nature, I guess.
I mean, I don't even know that I would work Honestly, Yeah, I mean, that's kind of what we've been doing Now the Eagles are making a few players available on Zoom during the draft.
We That's how we spoke with, uh, coach, GM and scouting head.
So there are ways to do it.
Doom has kind of taken over.
It's crazy throughout this whole thing.
I mean, I didn't know what Zoom Waas three months ago, and now I don't think I've gone a day without being on Zoom or a Microsoft Teams hum.
Was that in months? I mean, it's every day, so you get used to it.
It's not perfect, but you find ways around that, you have to adapt.
Well, uh, real quick on that.
What's been your worst experience with someone trying to get them to work? Zoom just kind of curious with that.
Honestly, it mostly people I've dealt with are pretty good at it right now, OK? It's become such a common thing that, you know, most people get it.
Um, I think the biggest hurdles or sometimes a technical difficulties, no WiFi signals dropping, and there's just not much you can do about it.
Um, you know, we had ah, press conference with Carson Wentz a week ago, and it was supposed to be through a zoom chat and his wife, I just wasn't working very well that day, so it ended up being just an audio call, which is a little more difficult, but yeah, I think those are the issues we've seen more often.
You know, sometimes calls drops.
Sometimes things like that happen.
Uh, for the most part, though, everyone I'm pretty good with the technology.
I think the other hardest thing is just when you're on any kind of conference call or room call is reminding people to meet their lives.
We should all be doing it pretty easily at this point.
What? Uh, it doesn't happen.
So the feedback is crazy Something.
And you have people you know this year, and I do it to like, I'll take calls outside a bunch, but I don't live in the city.
And so it's not always super loud, but you have, you know, cars going by on that kind of ambient noise makes a little more difficult, but, um, everyone worrying how to deal with it.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
And in the meantime, I think we all just need to write a letter to calm casting up up the bandwidth on the WiFi.
So we'll have you this video.
Well, getting into the thought of the Eagles is why we have Dave on the show today.
We're doing the team profiles were examining all of these famous the relevant players how these organizations are looking at some of these players and the Eagles had, you know, just about interesting oven offseason, especially draft Wiese's anybody but the main.
The number one focus has, of course, be on Carson Wentz.
And do you believe they actually put enough weapons around Carson Wentz this year where he's not gonna run to the situation at the end of last season like they were worked with Greg Ward coming out of nowhere and being the number one wide receiver for the team.
It's a good question.
And, um, why I was vory skeptical of their throats in free agency because there were eventually receivers who signed deals that I didn't break the bank that I thought would have really helped him on.
And they waited to, uh, for the draft, two players around him.
It's a risky strategy because the hit rate on receivers in the draft this isn't very good.
I know this was a very good class receivers, but, um, I don't know if if they did enough in the immediate future.
Uh, there are so many questions about that position.
Still, the biggest one is awesome.
Jeffrey and he there are we just gonna the next 10 minutes talking house on Jeffrey because there's so many questions right about him right now from, you know, even before, even if you kind of take away the locker room perceived issues with quarterback, Even if you remove all that he's still a 30 year old receiver.
This production has declined and is now coming up a list. Frank surgery.
So, yeah, there are a lot of questions about him.
My understanding is he still is in their plans, but you've got to get healthy first.
That's not a given based on that injury.
Then you go to the Sean Jackson 33 years old speed receiver and maybe the best deep to right NFL history.
But he needs a 32 year old steed receiver coming off a core muscle injury.
So I I don't know if you can really rely on him for 16 games or even 12.
13 means I don't really know what should be expected of him then.
After that, the other in***bent guys are Jay Jay Sigel, Weiss.
I do have a really disappointing rookie season.
Greg Ward, who had a nice year, but I don't know what the ceiling is there, so yeah, I would have liked it if I was judging them from her agency standpoint.
Maybe they should have gone out and and gotten some kind of receiver they can actually count on.
Uh, I will give them credit.
They use their first round pick on Jalen Reagor, who will be honest with you, He would have been my pick.
Their I really like Justin Jefferson, and I think Justin Jefferson probably has a better shot of contributing from Day one proposed jail.
McGregor, who probably, you know, has, ah, lower floor, higher ceiling, but you give them credit.
They drafted receiver in the first round.
They drafted another two receivers on Day three, and then they traded for Marqise Goodwin, who has no potential to help them.
But we don't know his injuries started.
So yeah, they addressed the position.
But not with enough players that I think you can really rely on this coming season.
The good news for them is that if you know a couple of those guys work out, then all of a sudden you have better receiving corps.
You still have Zach Ertz, Dallas, Qatar.
You still have Miles Sanders is still the good offensive line, and you have a quarterback that, if he stays upright, has the potential to be a top five top 10 quarterback in the league.
Uh, but there are some questions about the receiver corps.
Yeah, without a doubt, I I share your skepticism when it came to them drafting Jalen Reagor over Justin Jefferson.
I thought, you know what they needed to do perfectly, especially with some of those rumors out there that they were maybe looking to see if they could move on from Alshon Jeffery via trade this year.
Is that still a thing or they pretty much off of that.
Now the draft is over.
Well, put it this way.
I think they would have been open to trading Alshon.
Jeffery, you have to put yourself in the shoes of another team.
Here's we mentioned all the issues surrounding outshining.
We didn't talk about his contract, which is a pre.
It's a sizeable contract that Howie Rose, who made the mistake of guaranteeing last year to save some cap room, miss Trading For that.
I don't I don't think there were teams lining up to trade for uninjured 30 year old receiver with declining production on a bloated contract, so I'm sure that they would have been willing to trade him.
But I just don't think that was ever really feasible.
There is the idea that they could cut him, but really the only reason that would cut him is that they think it would be addition by subtraction.
If they really think that we can't be around the team anymore, that's the only reason to cut him because his contract has already guaranteed.
You might as well.
If it's sal***eable, you might as well so you can get out of them this year, right? No, I mean, I totally agree with that.
I think that the war on on trading him away had closed.
I don't think it makes any sense to Cottam, because if he can stay healthy, you still probably the best red zone target.
If nothing else, as far as the wide receivers go, Ah, for the Philadelphia Eagles.
So, to your point, they should see what least what they can get out of them.
I mean, same thing goes for just on.
Jackson should at least see what they can get out of him as well.
I think training for Marqise Goodwin is more, I think the when the guarantee they have at least one speedster on the field.
At some point this season.
I, between drafting jail and regard between trademark, is going between keeping dish on Jackson on the field it's clear they want to make sure they have at least one burner out there.
If everybody were the fall injury again, yeah, and then they drafted two guys on Day three.
Run a 442 inquest walk in Southern Mississippi ran a 435 You don't know you're getting in those day three picks, but you're kind of taking a flyer on some low cost speed guys so that yet that's what they did.
They just brought in a bunch of speed.
Ah, and that was their goal because it was so clear last year with that offense Sean Jackson working on the field.
They just missed that.
Not just a D strip of overall speed open up field.
They didn't have it.
They became this slow, plodding, methodical offense, and it worked at times.
That's a tough way to win when you're so one dimensional like that and the one to mention they're missing with speed.
So they went out and they out of the bunch of guys have well, let's let's have a little bit, start a little bit back to the quarterback position and, of course, another one.
Their draft picks was Jalen Hurts made headlines for a number of different reasons.
But my focus more on him is Is he going to be a Taysom Hill roll guy? Is he just going to be that guy comes on special packages? Or is he going to be more than that in his rookie season? Are they looking at him and somebody who really can come in And, of course, once goes down, he's going to be that guy.
It's interesting, and I think that tasted hell.
Smoke came up when a bunch of people were trying to find a way to justify taking a quarterback epic 50 53 I I'm not really sold on the idea that they drafted.
Jalen hurts to be this Taysom Hill changed the way we play football second quarterback.
I don't think that that's a really fair way to look at him because even case until it and it's not our apples to apples comparison, either, because Taysom Hill were not a second round draft pick that didn't put that kind of investment into end and he's not the same kind of player we Taysom Hill plays a bunch of special steps.
You're not gonna see. Jalen hurts some specialty.
So they've you heard as developmental quarterback.
That can eventually be the backup, but they're not even viewing him as the backup right now is a rookie coming into a really unusual all season, and they still have Nate Sudfeld, under contract, has been with the team for three years.
So if anything would happen the Carson went in early in the season.
At least it wouldn't even be genuine hurts.
Taking over at least the way they're planning on her right now will be Nate Son fell.
So they're viewing.
Jalen Hurts is a longer term project, and even if he looked even if he plays some snaps on Sundays in his rookie year, how much is really gonna play? I mean, we have to be realistic about this.
Even Taysom Hill in Year three in New Orleans average about 15 snaps per game.
So that's like the ceiling of how much German hurts to play.
And I don't think that would happen in his rookie season.
And if he's not the backup, that also means you're keeping three quarterbacks active every game day.
The Stones, back with roster active spots on being They're pretty important, especially to the Eagles.
They think a lot of stock into those Morrone your special teams, players over guys, unique key backups and other positions.
So I don't even know if it's a guarantee that he's active for every game.
That's an excellent point. Iceland point.
Yeah, so I mean, it is intriguing to think about ways to use her son.
And I think the Eagles will try to get creative.
I don't know about you.
When I watched the same, it would taste and held back there, and they have Drew Brees out wide.
It frustrates the heck out of me, man.
And I know that they've had some success to pay some help.
But I was looking like your breathing, your best player.
You're taking the ball out of his hands.
So in either case, Carson wants is their best player.
So if you're gonna put taste test, we're gonna put Jalen hurts like there in the shotgun and and and have Carson.
Why, like that doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
I think where it gets really intriguing is if you're thinking about why Carson ones of the shock on he's flanked by Jalen Hearts.
Now you have this kind of a play that Dan Orlovsky broke down on Twitter.
That is at least an intriguing possibility.
You have the option of almost a God double or P O double option type of play where Carson has a quick read.
And if it's not there, he pitches the ball to hurts.
Who has a quick read.
If it's not there, he takes off.
I don't know how functional that's gonna be against the speed of NFL defense is I think, a lot of defense.
You're gonna swarm that pretty quickly, but something a package deal.
You know, I'm sure that you are already thinking of ways to get creative, but how much is that? Are we gonna see on Sundays? I'm skeptical about how much I I think that there are opportunities.
But the first time one of those plays gets blown up for a 10 yard loss.
Yeah, how quickly they're going to be to go back right there, Right there.
That right out the playbook.
I mean, I had compared Jalen hurts the Tyrod Taylor.
From this sense, I think his career is gonna follow a very similar path.
I I agree with you.
I think the Eagles view him as a developmental project guy thing who has some abilities that you can't teach and trying to teach him how to play the quarterback position from a fundamental and mental aspect.
And kind of like Tyrod Taylor did when he sat what, 345 years before he got an opportunity to start.
I think there's something similar in the works for Jilin hurts in his career.
I don't think we're going to see a ton of them in the season.
I would I personally would be spies.
We don't see him at all this year.
I'm kind of more in the line of thought with you where I don't think they really brought him in to nationally be that gadget guy, even though it was a second round pick.
So I'm with you.
I don't think he's gonna have very little impact.
I think for the first few years, quite frankly, there, but moving on to somebody who will definitely have a big impact and a few questions about, and that's the backfield for the Philadelphia Eagles.
They didn't draft anybody.
There's some rumors that they might be interested in Carlos Hyde, but as it stands right now, it's pretty much mile standards.
Is Boston Scott with them not bringing a smile? Center is really going to be the featured guy, or we're gonna see a little bit more of Boston Scott.
Maybe he will realize, I think, Well, first off, I will say that the possibility is certainly there of them bringing in veteran running back.
Whether that's Carlos Hyde, it would certainly make the most sense from applause standpoint, complementary football, because he really would be a nice compliment from I'll Sanders and his skill set to have kind of amore inside Tough Runner.
So Carlos Hyde makes a lot of sense.
There are some other players available who would also fit that bill and who would be decent additions to the team.
But, uh, minus Sanders is gonna be the number one back, and it's just a matter of what the rotation looked like after, and there will be some sort of rotation.
It's not going to be.
They don't want toe wearing pile Sanders out to the point where he's taking 95% of snaps in that running back group.
I don't think I ever want to get to that point.
I do think that, you know, this idea that Peterson really wants to have a rotation has been overblown a little bit because they're gonna get Mile Sanders on the field and he's gonna play more than any other back.
Boston Scott's gonna play a little bit.
He's earned that right to be at least a change of pace type player.
Get out there on board down.
Get the ball to him in space.
He's a nice little player.
I don't know what the ceiling is there, but news is clearly running back to right now.
And then after that, we'll some competition for the back two roster spots that they don't have someone.
Corey Clement still were back on the contract, signed to a veteran minimum deal.
He doesn't have a roster spot locked up.
He's kind of, ah, guy who's had a really strange career has ended the last complete season when I are and then they have some intriguing back of the roster guys.
Elijah Holyfield, who, um, they really like in last year's draft.
He ends up coming over from Carolina late in the season, and then they brought into undrafted players.
Michael Warren, Cincinnati.
Adrian Killins from New CF.
Uh, so one of those guys has a chance to play a little bit.
Thank you to love the Eagles history.
They found some decent, constant contributing players in the undrafted classes.
Corey Clement a couple years ago.
Josh Adams a couple years ago.
So they were willing to give undrafted guys look and have at least a couple interesting back of the roster running backs right now.
Miles Sanders, the guy and then everyone else kind of mixes in after.
Yeah, he's got He's got a high ceiling because he's gonna be involved the past game. Use elusive.
I do worry about him if he's in a situation where he would have 300 touches, But I'm in line with you where I don't think they're gonna let him get to that point, whether it's bringing Carlos side or what have you? We talked about the wide receivers.
We have to talk about the tight ends and my big question for the tight ends with foot off the Eagles.
Is this the year Dallas Ghadir is going to overtake Zach Ertz? I don't think so, Um, I think purely look, maybe an overall skill.
That's a possibility, because Dallas offer so much to them in the run game as a blocker and also the past game as a blocker.
To be honest, because he's a guy they leave in tow.
Help chip against top tier pass rushers because of that, too.
I don't see him overtaking backers as a pass catcher, and I don't think his talent as a pass catcher there yet, either.
He might have MAWR Yard actually catch ability.
He might have more big play ability, but Zach Ertz is still in his prime as a pass catching tight end who, let's be honest, has never really offered much as a blocker.
But he's dependable.
He's putting together a career that, honestly, he has another 34 good seasons.
But the season he's had in recent years, he's going to put himself into the Hall of Fame conversation.
Yeah, um, if he really is at least by the numbers, I don't know.
He's probably on the outside of that right now, but, um, he's been better than people realize.
Yeah, he and he's about as consistent as any Cardinal lead, and Carson wants love thrown it.
So I don't think we're gonna see Dallas got overtake him, and that's barring any injury.
Of course, that would change things.
Um, and that's a kind of tough spots in Dallas will be, and I'm sure because he's a really talented tight end.
He might be a top 10 part and in the league, which is also why they utilize a lot of 12 personnel last year, and I think they'll continue to do that.
Some of that was not an obsessive your last two, because once they lost the shame, Jackson, like I mentioned, they became this kind of plotting offense.
That was not a necessity, but they saw the ability to go with well at times.
I think they can't be their base offense like it was throughout a lot of last season, right? I just think that's that's not the way the NFL's going in to be fast and we saw that with authenticity.
Chief Speed kills what is a change of pace and having that 12 personnel in your back pocket concerning the help.
Um, I just I still think Jack ****s the top tight end for this team.
And maybe that will be the case long term.
I can understand if you're sceptical there, but right now he's still number one.
Yeah, I completely agree that I have Zach urges my number four tight end overall, just just behind market Andrews.
Ah, and the only reason I have behind Mark Andrews because of Dallas Goddard.
In fact, I do expect him to be involved in the significant enough way that Earth doesn't quite get over there.
But he stole my top five tight end, especially for fancy football purposes.
And, yes, speed kills.
I'm still having nightmares of the Tyreek Hill bombs over bowls of four years at night.
Uh, moving on, though.
Kind of wrap the question for the eagles.
What? What's your expectations defense now? They Finally, they finally had dairy sleigh.
They finally have a top corner, which has been their biggest weakness for forever.
I always thought this was a team that had a pretty good pastors if they could get corners to protect for 1/2 a second mawr.
What? You think Stephen is going to bring to the table this year? Yeah, Adam, sleigh is big.
They were in, um Byron Jones.
And then when that didn't happen, they quickly pivoted and got Darius Slay.
And I'll be honest with you.
I think they ended up with a better player.
Agree now Sleigh is older and Byron Jones, but he was also cheaper and honestly, it is a better player, in my opinion.
Overall, it's going to help them, and they haven't had a top tier corner and so long in the last good corner.
They had less really good corner they had with Asante Samuel.
He's been retired her.
How many years? This point? Yeah, so having very slight is gonna help Jim Schwartz High.
Not in his time in Philadelphia.
He has not used cornerbacks to travel with opposing number one receivers, but he has done that other stops in his NFL career.
I think a big reason he hasn't done in Philly it because he hasn't had corn or worthy of that responsibility.
That will change this year, and they're gonna face kind of a murderer's row or receivers.
Season from Laurie Cooper, DeAndre Hopkins, Michael Time it.
It's about as tough as it get in this league.
So, um, it's gonna be a big cast for Darius Slay.
The part about the secondary that I think should be concerning is the loss of Malcolm Jenkins.
They let him walk as a free aging, and they replaced him with some combination of Jalen Mills, world parks and the Ricky Cave on Wallace from Clemson.
It's not easy to retire smacking drinking what he meant to the team from on on field perspective.
A guy who played multiple positions didn't miss a snap, and from the leadership respect that they have, some guys will fill in.
But he was kind of the unquestioned leader of the defense and, frankly, of the team over the last several years.
So replacing him, not going to be easy in my mind, the loss of him and the addition.
I almost can t tell you out Right now, I think they're slightly better because, like he said, corner highs in such a need position for again.
I'm a little skeptical about the back end of it now.
Yeah, and he's clearly been the heart and soul that defense in particular for the past few seasons.
So yet that's going to be an interesting one to watch before we go ahead and let you go, Dave, I've been asking everybody this question.
Ah, what is your personal opinion on the prospects of the NFL season starting on time this year? Uh, that's the big question.
Um, I give the NFL credits or at least getting to this point.
You know, they have 90 guys on rosters right now because they want to free agency.
They went through the draft, and I at the time, I wasn't sure, if possible.
It's a little common destiny, but in hindsight, I'm glad they went through with all that because to be in a position right now, where every team has 90 guys and if facilities open, they can get there and start practicing.
That's it's a nice feeling to have right now for the NFL.
Yeah, I think there will be some sort of season.
What? I don't know, man.
I This is so far.
And when you know I'm not an expert in person, and the problem is, nobody really is.
This is something we haven't dealt with before.
I think the idea of having fans and the standards to me my very realistic right? Yeah, I agree.
And so I think that it's possible to have league in place.
What man? I think very high hurdles and clear.
Before we get to that point, I think there will be some sort of seizure.
Ah, the good news for the NFL is that it seems like other sports are going to give this a go in the States before the NFL season begins so they can learn from the successes and mistakes of you know it is baseball source in July.
I know it's a different sport is not a contact sport, so some things are a little different.
But the NFL's will be watching, and I don't have that benefit of learning from literally baseball possible the N B A and maybe the NHL.
So I think that we'll give them an advantage and I think we have some sort of season.
I'm certainly hoping we will, because I certainly need it and I had a lot of people.
Oh yeah, I definitely needed to, and I hope it's This is one of situations where it's going to be good, that the NFL is not first or really anybody who's not first going through this.
I think will actually benefit them.
Dave, Just one last time.
Let everybody know where to follow you at and what you're working on now.
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And Eddie, I just want to thank you so much for coming on the show.
That is your first time on this show.
And hopefully this will lead Teoh many more conversations with you.
But first of all, how are you doing? How is your family? Are you guys able to stay healthy during these times? Everything's been OK.
It's kind of weird.
I ended up getting stuck in Florida.
My sister was supposed to get married in mid March.
Actually came down here early because I wanted to go the Players Championship.
I didn't really.
You have any idea that this was about to happen in the day I got here? Everything kind of happened, and I haven't had it really made sense to go home.
So Westminster's leading got canceled and, uh, just been hanging out with my parents, which is not what I expected for this year.
But my parents for 2.
5 months quit at the age of 30 six, but it's been interesting, has been cool to spending time with them honestly, because I live with my parents and it doesn't look nice school, so I kind of have a nice well, and it gives you a chance to kind of be able to keep an eye on them firsthand as well. I'd imagine, too.
I'm sure you appreciate that ability to do that.
You know, not make the trip Home Depot every day.
You know, make sure the event that their dance mark one safe, but yeah, I did spend.
Obviously, it's a weird and I think it's a difficult time for everyone.
But there there are some no nice things are positive about it.
But obviously, we don't like life to get back to normal and everybody to build, earn money, move around the way we're that we're used to him and be safe.
So hopefully way to know when Collingwood? Hopefully it's not.
Yeah, I I hope so is as well I asked somebody else's question.
I'm gonna ask you this, and since you're actually trapped Ah, in Florida, kind of Ah, you know, oh, ways away here from Jersey.
How has it been trying to cover the team, Trying to get guest on trying to make sure you still have your finger on the pulse for for doing what you dio I mean, I don't I'm not in any disadvantage being down here.
There's been no accessibility.
So everything I'm doing and everything any other reporter is doing right now is over the phone or if they're attacking, store no other sources.
So the Jets have done a good job draft picks and other players and comes available through Zoom so we can get video more, uh, conference calls.
So that has been just about the same, which is not in person.
It in some ways, no, it's easier because you're in your home instead of being a definitely for the draft, so they have more convenient.
But in other ways, it's It would be nice to have that face to face interaction and the list off to the side that happens after a press conference.
Um, we're having a chance to, you know, watch practices that all that stuff you're missing out on, but everybody is missing out on something, and obviously, like the players, they're not having a chance to lead the rookie orientation or low, throaty a czar or mandatory medical.
So, um, it's just different.
Uh, but I don't I don't think it's me being down here is really any that much different that I mean, that doesn't excellent point is everyone's doing things remotely anyway.
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But let's go ahead and dive into it.
Uh, this year, you know, it's a lot of talk is around Sam Donald's.
It's a big year for him.
Ah, there's a lot of question marks as far as what this team's gonna be in the future.
And it seems like a make or break it year.
Do they look at this as the year Sam darl needs to prove himself? And is it a fair expectation tohave considering the weapons that he has around him? I don't think they're never gonna publicly put that much pressure on Sam, but I think, yeah, you got to see him take some sort of leap here in your three.
I wrote about this a couple weeks ago.
Maybe last week.
The you're still young? Well, younger than Joe Borough.
Believe it or not, he doesn't turn 23 in Hill early in June.
So that's been kind of I think a useful context is he's gone through these 1st 2 years and kind of, you know, Ben inconsistent.
And you had also another.
Another thing is that you had to go to an entirely new offense.
So, um, I think that's been context.
But now he's your three.
He's gonna be the second year in the same offense and they have definitely upgraded the often maligned.
I don't think it's gonna be perfect, but it is.
It would be hard.
Could be worse than it was last year.
He was so bad, and it definitely definitely be better.
And he needs to show something.
I think what happened was that he can win games.
You can make the plane.
That's really what a good quarterback does, right? They make the point that win games, and that's kind of what you see out of him.
You didn't see him.
The reason that they win game and I think there is reason to expect that.
You look back last year.
Let's kind of just throw it out.
The mono thing, right? The new offense that the terrible offensive line he did not look, is comfortable in the pocket.
I think look at the stats of staff, actually to get better, but he did not look, is comfortable in the pocket because he was the land of fire.
But if you look back at the end of his rookie season 2018 the last came back from injury and played for five games, Um, you look at the if you go back and look at who is blocking in front of him.
The offensive line is not good, but they they were OK.
They were just They were bad, but they were like consistently bad, so he didn't have to worry like then out of nowhere, using crushed every time you drop back down under that and he didn't have great weapons, he still functioning really well.
It went like the last three plus games without throwing an interception three like six or seven.
Touchdown, uh, neighboring games against the Packers games against the Texan intelligent class hundreds There, Um, that should give you hope that Donald and make that can some winning plays.
And I think, um, you've proven that.
So that's what the expectation should being should addition to be expecting him to lead us into the playoffs, sir.
To be the best for American football.
But you show that you can make the big play that weekend.
Can you give me an over under on 4000 yards for Sam Donald this season? Well, I think it's gonna be the question game be played.
16 games, even money.
Okay, I think I think it's a good chance having Here's the crazy.
Just, um, I think they only had I name is their only quarterback.
Never throw from 4000 yards.
They did it in a 14 seasons.
No, Lincoln's 1975 for seven yards, which is absolutely right.
It's not that hard.
I think it's gonna happen eventually.
I think I think there's a good you know, but there's just some questions with his weapon that leave it more of an open question where I would say it's even better than either money.
You know, they broke that Robbie understand? Or if they at a clear number one receiver.
But the way this offense is this kind of opportunity, and I think they'll spread it around and find waking from your okay, Okay, well, I mean, one of probably not want probably the best offense of weapon that they have would be lay beyond Bell in the backfield.
And there's some questions that come with that for a variety of reasons.
Let's lead off with this one.
Do you think he's in line to seed 300 plus touches again this season? Yes, last year.
And I think you have just over 300.
Yeah, I think it's gonna be on You.
I don't think he's gonna give more.
I think he had more of a running back media.
I think it's gonna be about maybe slightly more is gonna be right in that 300 rage.
Um, I don't think they want toe.
I think Adam Case wants to burn him out.
I don't think I think just the way he runs his offense is gonna be more of an aerial attack.
So there's a chance to Levy on get more involved, uh, yet of the passing game.
But I don't think him ever being like this offense ever being like handed off the Levy on Awful.
I think workload will be about the same.
I think there's a very good chance will be more effective watching in. Last year.
He didn't look like leave Gambella, only not as bad as formers buried out in Green.
There's still something there.
He didn't do it, But with that offensive line, it was just so bad that that didn't claim it, huh? What taken the option? I think in case would admit this lady out of what he had a hard time figuring out how to utilize improperly everything.
So I think the combination of them knowing how did Adam get is knowing how to use him a little bit better in the offense.
And Bell having some better blocking is gonna make him much more productive in terms of numbers in here.
But I think the low it'll be about okay.
I mean, that's the interesting question, right? Because I agree with you from an efficiency standpoint, he should be a lot better.
Ah, the offense of line like you have said, is better.
So his yards per carry should be able to rise a little bit more.
My thing would be him being more involved in the passing game and getting him out in space.
Naturally, that way let him being able to do his thing, I think would help him out a ton to, uh my reason I asked you that question for 300 touches because they drafted Michael Parini.
Ah, they just brought in Frank Gore.
What do you think their roles could be? Ah, maybe not that significant.
According to you, I I think it will be.
I think they'll have similar rules to do the guys so last year, like Bilal Powell and pretty big role.
I can't remember the exact matches e I know him and both my summer under 100 touches.
So yeah, I think we will be spread a little bit born.
You didn't leave.
Still I've seen lately.
I'm getting more involved in the past and get him getting up to 300.
But I think Gore is gonna get some amount of touches.
It'll probably be the lead back up.
And then, uh, got what? I'm breaking on the prison board of Green.
Yeah, he'll get a considerable come out of.
I think he kind of just be like a situational.
Maybe it's that kind of more of our guy, which is something they don't court has some of that, but not, like, used to I could see him being warm, situational and short heritage, but I think they'll use them all.
I think Lady is pretty clearly okay.
I mean, now that it's the same situation.
But I was having flashbacks to when Adam gays had Frank or in Miami with Kenyan Drake.
And I know that I'm screaming for Kenny injected, finally got his chance, and Frank or was getting an odd amount of number of touches.
Doesn't have my flashback, but obviously, lady on bell, the hire contractors, different situation.
Yeah, but if you even looking back of that 100% sure on this, but I looked at it a couple of weeks ago when I signed, or last week amid single right.
I think that he's in Miami was like he was low on touches to that point has agreed, so I mean, Jason doesn't use running backs much.
Uh, and other coaches do.
I mean, that much is definitely very true.
What he does use a lot in his history of slot wide receivers.
Do you think Jamison Crowder is gonna be the lead target guy again this season for the team? I mean, it makes it makes the most sense.
Um, the honestly fit very well with the offense.
Last year developed the nice Reporter with but Donald is the only proven receiver only proven productive, even on the roster.
So, yeah, I mean, it makes the most sense for him again that those kind of targets, but obviously defense will begin on him.
So it's hard to say, but you have my gun, and I think that you were gonna last targets by Christopher didn't come back and anything.
Me and the flare was the rookie of the tight end Chris Hernan.
Now he's had a nightmare year.
Last year, suspended the 1st 4 games this season because of you, I and then right before we were supposed to come back in a hurry, I missed like 45 more games with a hamstring returned for a game again.
You know the Patriots, but may not have been.
How is any way you got hurt again? Lots of rib, that first game back and not only played like that him and a little really nice report back in here.
Brooking years, like 15 or 20 catches of longer than 20 yards was kind of unusual.
For then, he's a vertical threat, and Donald got Ryan Griffin involved last year. Five. Touchdown.
Uh, I think he had, like, almost Warren yards, which is five times the Donald likes dignified ends involved.
I think you could be a sleeper for that.
But But Crowder is definitely finger.
Well, I mean that I was one of questions I was going to ask you to, um, so I'm glad he brought that up with Chris Herndon and Ryan Griffin, who had a decent little run last year.
I will take it from from that response that you believe Chris Herndon will get the opportunity to overtake the job again this season.
Yeah, I, I think, made I think so and use a lot of two tight end set, maybe not as much this year that they will that work comfortable? Time line.
But yeah, I don't think there's gonna be like Britain is going to be holding it down.
And the only tight end.
Okay, I think I think Herndon is going to get that opportunity.
They're gonna find ways to work him in creatively.
You haven't banged up.
Maybe that was a slide or something where you find a way, get him involved.
Because he is potentially.
They're most, at this point dynamic deep threat.
Like I don't said, Steve.
It's not necessarily true, but he's kind of proven it where Obviously you don't know what I'm gonna be.
And, uh, Harriman, obviously the question want to I didn't get that.
Yeah, well, I'm that meal that brings the next one out out of Perriman and Enzo Memes.
Who do you believe is gonna be that main perimeter down the field threat this season? By the end? Well, obviously legit would love it if men's could kind of live up to the potential right away.
But I think that's a that's a really big ask.
Um, I was going from an often that, you know, and competitions doesn't have it.
That hasn't translated that great to the NFL.
It usually takes those guys, uh, from the big 12 time to kind of A just so I think he kind of viewed it as a now, you can fully arrive one or two years from now, but you look at its eyes, Insane speed.
Uh, there is a chance that he has the tools to contribute right now.
So I think it's gonna be like, how quickly does he grasp the often? How precise, maybe with routes.
Uh, and that so allowed him to either be able to make an impact.
Not this first year pyramid.
If you look what he did the second half of last year.
Definitely the guy with favorite to make an impact immediately.
Arguably the best receiver and football over the last 10 games of the season.
Definitely over the last five games, I think you have identical lead touchdown receptions and close the NFL lead receptions and receiving.
So obviously he got an opportunity in Tampa when they had injuries.
So full advantage of it going to get an opportunity with the Jets to be there, featured outside receiver and just needs a consistently to together two seasons.
Really anything with eight games of abode, you haven't done so.
But if you could do that definitely is proved he could do out of love.
Favorite to be kind of Yeah.
I mean, that's gonna be an interesting one, because there is a role there If one of those guys emerges as somebody who's gonna be consistently used in that role that they could wind up having big fans, the implications, especially from a defense perspective, reconcilable guys going to be a little bit cheaper and they have the big playability.
A of stamina is gonna be a little bit more aggressive.
Ah, on a more consistent basis, not just towards the end, but we've seen the past couple of years with Robby Anderson seemed to catch fire at the end of the season.
On the flip side of the ball, you have the defense there.
I It's not a defense that I think anyone's going to be.
Ah, going to draft or fancy purposes.
But what are some of the things that you think that they're going to be good at, and where some of things that you think they're gonna be able to be a week at this season.
There were defensive.
I watched them, obviously, every game.
Last year there, I didn't feel like very They were great defense.
But you look like they were pop 10 everything, which didn't what they lost injury wise.
And I've covered the Jets now from 2016.
They were probably that that's probably the best intense, absolutely have, which isn't saying much, but they didn't have the brake.
Now I think the defense could be surprise.
I don't profanity proving that.
I don't think they have a ton of production old.
I mean, Jamal Adams.
It's probably still the most dangerous pass rusher, which is having a problem, right? Uh, and what? Quinn and Williams? No, I did a nice job.
Is a rookie even over the production wasn't there.
And impact, um, did a nice job.
They were the best team in NFL against the run.
And there's a big reason why, because we're effectively executed a job in the middle of the offensive line.
But But, um, they just aren't a team that's going to get up to the quarterback.
Maybe that you here.
But that seems to be a little biggest problem, but it's CJ Mosley and plays at anywhere near the level you played the first half of this career in both.
Why? I think this could be like, thank you.
But, uh, I think they're going to be good at stopping the run again.
I think they got a struggle.
Um, against, you know, quick slot Horner's guys kind of sorry.
Slot receivers, guys.
Kind of exploit.
Uh, there are probably many Brian Poole obviously gonna do a nice job.
Probably like you did last year.
Maybe you didn't get to the middle of a field kind of wreak some havoc, I think the depo they can probably handle.
But that delegate, the either biggest weaknesses is yeah.
I mean, that eggs in that makes sense to me.
It wasn't weird divas because we were watching it on film.
Uh, when When you're, you know, throughout the game you didn't feel that you're watching.
Agreed? Even though, what's your point? Statistically speaking.
They heard about it also.
Yeah, they're a little bit of the interesting defense in in that sense.
And yeah, also, todos they make mistakes, you make mistakes, but usually after they make, um think they don't make another one again.
Yeah, so it just week the Were you playing over their head because they had a bunch of guys the middle linebacker cornerback you never heard of and for them to be able, I need that.
I still don't really understand it, but I don't know what to expect of the well, and it's your.
But we didn't see it to see them with CJ Mosley that much of the year.
Two night back at the big difference.
And he has been absolutely great.
Before we let you go, I have been asking everybody this question.
Try to get some sort of consensus on it.
What is your personal opinion on the prospects of the NFL being able to start on time this year? I mean, honestly, I have knowing.
It's so it's still so over.
So four months away from a little less than four months away now from what would be weak one, There's so many things that could happen that we know.
And then, uh, that could make it look better or worse.
So my gut tells me it isn't hard to see the NFL playing games with fans and stand in early September.
All the president, I don't see how that's possible, but, um, I could I still think there's a possibility of 16 game season and it could happen on time.
I just fans are gonna be kind of the wild card.
I think the NFL will find a way to make it happen to get a 16 game season, But I don't I don't know about the fans.
I don't know how I know him a little B and there's so many questions.
Uh, what do you do if a player test positive? How does that work? Stop elite use? A.
Are the players will anything less money if there's no band in less revenue, a 1,000,000,000 other questions that these other leagues are wrestling with now they're trying to start for them.
So my gut is that it won't be as normal that they'll find a way to be 16 years.
Yeah, I mean, I hope I hope you're right, cause we just we need it, especially football.
Ah, the one sport that may still be able to pull off a full season just because it's happened to happen during their off season.
They're not gonna be the first.
Ah, league to try to go through this, you're probably going to see, you know, you have baseball basketball talking about it now, trying to do something so they might get an opportunity, kind of sit back and learn from other people's mistakes And what things that went well for them.
Because of that, they'll have an actual chance here to get started on time was man, do we need entertainment right now? Ah, Andy.
Andy was absolutely great to have you won.
Ah, before you head out, just let everybody know where to follow you at and give me something that you are working on now that everybody can look forward to and go ahead and check out.
Well, you can follow me at on Twitter and Andy underscore basket As you can read my work in North Jersey that comes no to the sports page.
Find the Jets page on all the news is there.
And as for what I'm working on right now, I'm actually about to be off for weeks.
I don't have anything that, uh, super soon, but I think you could look for a Denzel Minutes feature in the next couple of weeks that will be coming. Working on that.
He's got obviously an interesting story.
And if you want to check out another story I did on fashion Davis.
It's kind of a fascinating guy.
So he's got a tough past, but also just a really interesting story of how he had to walk on Guy who, on a towel track team.
And then he walked out of the football team, turned down a scholarship for the title track.
He eventually got a scholarship before their ground.
Pretty crazy, huh? Ryan's Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Yeah, you guys don't know.
Make sure you follow Andy on on Twitter because he's a great follow.
A lot of great information, constant coming out of him.
I know I have my alerts up on your guy.
I'm always following you along now, too.
So yet thank you so much for coming onto the show, and hopefully we'll be talking to you again soon.
Thanks for having me and stay safe.
Thank you. You too. Take care.
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He's a great follow the news alerts coming out of him.
I follow constantly to keep me updated, especially this offseason, cause you guys have had a busy offseason.
Greg, first off, How are you How's your family? You guys staying healthy during this time? Yeah.
Doing very well. Can't complain.
Kind of getting into the last month of school here in Florida.
And, uh, yeah, I think everyone's kind of got a routine and hoping to see things Tennis slowly get back to normal here in the summer.
Yeah, especially down in Florida, especially in Tampa Bay.
You want to be able to take advantage of all the all the warm weather you guys having down there.
I'm up here in Jersey and we're just starting to get a little bit of warm.
Weather has been kind of hitter minutes.
So I definitely have you guys down there.
You can hit the beaches and they're open and everything like that.
Like I said, you guys had probably the most popular offseason because you've got the most popular player in Tom Brady.
Just let's get into it right here.
What's the expectations for him? What's the offensive system going to look like around him? Are they gonna adapt the time pretty or his Bruce area is going to keep it mortar? What? He wants to dio No, I think they definitely will do well do some adapting as you would really for any new quarterback, especially with success to Tom Brady had.
You'd be silly not to kind of tweak your offense to his strength.
So I mean, I think that starts with protection, given that will be 43 years old and falling, just making sure you minimize that.
The times that he hit and brought down.
He had 19 fewer sacks last year than Jamis Winston did here in Tampa.
So I think the hope would be to keep that number down at much lower total for the year.
Some of that is just already having a better internal clock and being ableto get rid of the ball quick.
Think they'll throw more to the backs and the tight end, as has certainly been his history on.
And I would have said that even before they brought Rob Gronkowski on board as well.
Well, yeah, Tom Reyes always had that quick release.
You guys, uh, put some draft capital into the offense of lying this year, which was a great, great move.
I still believe Tom Brady has what it takes.
I think maybe more so than most, at least from what I've heard from other people talking about that.
He still has that ability.
Go 2025 yards down the field, outside the numbers and still be able to zip that thing in which I think is more where Bruce Aaron's truly wants to do.
Everyone thinks about the bomb, but that's not really the biggest part of the offense.
I feel like What do you think about that? Yeah, I mean areas.
You said he feels like Tom can make every throw they needed to Megan his offense.
I don't think it necessarily had the personnel what we'd like to have last year in New England, just, you know, growing for the first time in a decade, took some key injuries at receiver.
It really took away some options for them.
So now I think as much as his numbers were down a bit last year, that that's as much a function of the the offense around him as it was.
The wear and tear of a guy be in 42 years old.
Yeah, I completely agree with that and I'm working through my projections of my rankings as we speak early on in May here, but I'd actually did just finish Tampa Bay, and I had I actually I'm gonna be bigger on braiding and even thought I was.
I had him for 33 touchdowns and, ah, about 46 4700 yards.
What do you think about that real quick Just because Because I finished that recently.
Yeah, that sounds about right.
I mean, 33 would be the same number that James past year passing touchdowns.
I would expect the passing artist to drop They've thrown for 5000 yards into the last two years here in Tampa.
But I think some of that is a function of falling behind and being behind and throwing MAWR getting out of, ah, more balance gained planete Wells.
I think as they get more successful as a team, they'll probably need to troll s.
So it's not really a bad thing If he throws for fewer yards than Winston last year.
The big number I'm curious about is how many interceptions.
That's where they could really make a big step forward.
Obviously, Winston had 30 last year.
Bradys never had more than 14 in the season, so I mean, he can get that number down to 10 or even lower.
That's that's where his impact will really be felt for sure.
What I was gonna follow up with actually had him for, Ah, nine interceptions on the year, which, to your point, should mean that there probably will throw for a few last hours.
They probably will be a little bit more balanced.
Was brings us to the running back situation.
Now You guys actually wanted drafting one of my favorite sleeper running backs in Keyshawn Vaughn.
I think there's a lot of things you can do that a lot of people don't really know about yet.
I think he could be a day one impact starter.
What do you think the rotation between Ronald Jones and Keyshawn Von is going to be? Yeah, I think there's really high on Ronald Jones.
Here is a guy that's kind of still on the rise and took a big step forward last year.
Um, obviously, you know what they want to see is is a good complement in Keyshawn Bones, lots of big play potential that I think he had eight touchdowns of 60 yards or longer in college.
Um, which sounds a lot like Ronald Jones, two guys that both have the ability to say to the House when given the ball.
My instinct is that with less of an offseason less of a chance for a rookie to learn off Antony and get acclimated will probably trend toward Jones at least early in the year ago.
With what they know and what's most familiar with the the offense and pass protection, all those kind of things again, it will be a work in progress that that split will change as the year goes on and they get a chance toe to show what they can do.
Great and has a great point, right, because that's a big thing with a lot of these rookies that people are really excited about going into this season's that.
I don't think enough people are taking into consideration the fact that we may not have a full training camp for these guys to get ready for the NFL speed for the playbooks and for the most, most importantly, especially in Tom Brady's case, the blocking scheme as a running back cause you're going to be able to give that a little bit of extra protection to make sure Brady stays upright, That's gonna be the big priority.
And I do think Bond has that ability for a rookie coming out of college.
But you still need to get practice and and work in there.
So I agree with that.
We may I see him significantly involve until the end of the season.
But I do that like a lot of his ability there.
Um, and, of course, what Ronald Jones might be able to take the next step up it with better offense around him, too.
The big story, of course, is gonna be the wide receivers.
What's the split going to be between Chris Godwin and Mike Evans? Is it going to be Godwin because Tom Pretty has that history with the slot receiver or over your city shipped back to Evans? Because outside of rainy moss, we really haven't seen Brady have a premier perimeter wide receiver until now.
Yeah, I'll be curious to have those two split it.
I mean, it was one of those where, you know, last year it was such a great back and forth between the two of them to see who would finish with more.
It was unfortunate, and both Mr lasted two against injuries.
He might have had two receivers with 14 or 1500 yards if they had a full year to play around with.
So, yeah, in terms of benefits, more Brady's history were to slot.
And that favors Godwin.
I don't think he's had Ah ah, jump ball receiver guy.
He gun through the end zone to in the red zone since Randy Moss.
Really, that's this good.
So I mean, I think he'll take advantage of my Kevin size.
This should be good news for both of those guys, at least his touchdown.
Too concerned again.
I don't know if I have the volume of throws and the volume yardage they had in terms touchdowns, and they make they combined for 17 last year and probably good for that, at least going back into 2020 year.
Yeah, I have them actually both scoring eight touchdowns of peace, and both are hovering around that 1100 yard mark and that might be even to lower the orders.
I have it that lows because I think there might be some extra production going to that tight end position and I kind of thought that even before Gronk got moved into this team but now, especially with Gronk, and becomes very, very interesting.
Just there's only one question to ask here.
What do you make of the tight end situation, What we're going to see this year for this team? Yeah, I think you see a lot more.
12 personnel in terms is more likely to have two tight ends in Italy.
They were in 12 about 30% last year, a fair amount.
But I do think Bill utilized to it once.
The idea of having no J.
Howard and Rob Gronkowski on till the same time they're both very complete backs able to block able to catch.
I think that will make it harder for defense is to know what's coming can Great, obviously, has been a really good red zone option for them.
I think he's fourth among NFL tight ends in the last five years, touchdown to his 27 touchdowns, so they'll have all three out there.
I think it helps in terms of injuries to not have to think about Gronkowski being a 80 or 90% of all offensive snaps, tight end um I think to ease him back in after a year away or take advantage of how many snaps O.
Howard was able to play last year is probably smart for both of them in terms of keeping them healthy and and ready to contribute the playoffs if they get there.
Well, yeah, that leads up into My next question is, how much can we really expect to see if Rob Gronkowski on the field? Is he going to is you want to line up on the end of Linus coverages and be asked a block? Or is he going to be strictly a red zone situational flex out tight end? No, I think I think it will be very business as usual for Gronk, stepped away for a year.
Today is actually his 31st birthday.
He's not that old.
So if anything, I think his production was really limited by injuries all over his body his last three years in the league.
So toe have a year off to get himself kind of back toe healthy, Normal Gronkowski could lead him to be in better shape than he was maybe his last year in New England.
Yeah, I like that.
You said that because that's something I've been.
I feel I've been kind of leading the charge on a little bit within the fancy industry, to some degree as far as Rob Gronkowski and his playing shape.
A lot of people seem to want a question it right away, and I can't bring up the point.
He's already listed at 2 50 He was already doing other athletic things.
He was involved with the wrestling stuff going on.
He was already kind of putting on weight that they're reported for last couple months.
Since Brady went to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers thinking that this was going to be a possibility, I think you're gonna be better shaped and people really realize or or maybe want to believe.
Yeah, I think he'll be fine.
I mean, I think we saw some pictures of him where you wondered if you would drop more weight.
It sounded like 2 30 or something like that.
But he said that he played a to 60 to 65 for the most part, was already a to 50 the day we talked to him in the a month ago and he was a 2 50 in that day and felt like it was really easy for him.
Given three months before the season starts to work his way back up to to 60 or something like that, I think he should be physically very much the same.
But iwas and again, if anything, maybe less limited by injuries.
Yeah, I perfectly agree with that.
Moving to your defense aside because there's always that even side aspect for both for you guys from fancy relevancy.
And then also what teams are gonna be able to do or not do against the take of a defense showed a lot of promise towards the end of the season.
Made a couple of couple improvements here and there.
What's your take on their defense right now? What they're going to bring to the table this season? Yeah, they were much better in the second half of last year than they were when they were not of her good defense in the first half of 2019.
But I think they took big strides and bucks were very happy with her defense.
Did the last month or two months of the season.
Ah, young secondary really came. It came together.
They didn't really do much to change things that corner it all, didn't draft any corners, didn't sign any corners out of the safety in the second round.
And Antoine Winfield from Minnesota spent a lot to make sure their front seven came back intact.
Brought Schechter back in a franchise tag.
Jason Pierre polity.
Your deal. A lot of damage consume back.
So it's very much the same front seven that they had Ah, year ago.
And I think they hoped that was the continued progress in maturation of their secondary.
They could be a another half is not a top 10 defense's.
Is it possible that the persistent with the way they play towards the end of last year, Todd Bowles is a very good defensive coordinator? So the second year under his system, I think is gonna help as well.
Ah, Antoine Winfield, that was That was a great idea.
That was a great pick up because this is a guy who you could play safety.
He could place a nickel corner.
He's a ball hawk.
I think is exactly what Tampa Bay needed.
As far as getting somebody who truly has the ability to create turnovers for them.
I think you have a big impact in his rookie year.
Reminds me so much of the honey badger.
The way you kind of come up in Hit And, uh, maybe two.
I think he's even better than Buddha Baker on Arizona.
I mean, those two guys that had a lot of versatility for Bruce Areas in Arizona.
I think that's what they like the most is just how many different ways they could use him in this defense against Iran against the past.
Like you send in a big nickel against tight ends and slot corner, they still feel comfortable him there.
So, yeah, I think I think as he gets into this again, we don't know how much of a preseason these guys are gonna have or a normal training camp.
But as he gets comfortable in this defense, I think Winfield together can use a lot of different ways.
Yeah, hopefully, Tampa Bay will actually be one of the teams being how the rules are going around in Florida that will be able to ah, maybe get into their facilities a little bit earlier.
Speaking of that, I'm the way I want to close out.
Every interview is I want to ask you guys, you know, what is your personal feelings on the prospects of the NFL season being able to start on time this season, So I think they'll be a season.
I mean, whether it's whether it starts a scheduled in Week one on September 10th I'm not sure, but, I mean, they've They've made this schedule in a way where they can, even if they're not ready September 10th.
If they wanna wait a month, you can pull out weeks three and four weeks to all the games and weak to can be moved into teams buys.
And then you slide Week one to Week 18 and you still have Ah, 14 game season.
That would start in mid October, and you can still play the Super Bowl as normal.
So I don't know whether we'll have crowds.
Um, but I think we'll definitely have NFL games where you can watch on TV and have the normalcy at least watching the NFL in the Sunday afternoon, Um, possibly in September and hopefully by October.
If we don't know crowds, is Tampa Bay gonna be one of those teams that tries to pump crowd noise into the stands, You know, I don't know what they'll do.
I mean, it's one of those where I think we got a while before we have to figure those things out.
But like I said, I think most fans will be happy if you plan, um, in any kind of context right now.
I mean, absolutely.
We sports way entertainment bad.
I'm very, very hopeful of the season will be able to start on time, but I don't necessarily hold my breath at the same time. And it was good.
I'm The NFL is catching a lot of flack, I think, for ah, for the NFL schedule coming out when it did.
And I'm like, Why not at least plan hope for the best and then prepare for the worst? I don't I don't understand the line of thinking that was there.
Ours is my feeling.
But, Greg, you know, tell everybody again real quick where to find you.
What? Something you're working on now so people can look forward to checking you out because you do a lot of great work.
Yeah, lots stuff.
Just kind of getting ready for ah, kind of gone past the post draft standpoint here, looking at a roster projections in depth charts and stuff like that right now.
But everything I write that the athletic at the athletic dot com You see some good free trials have their great get half off an annual subscription.
If you're a new subscriber and I'm on Twitter at at My name was just Greg on the g r e g a, um A.
Thanks very much for having me.
Yeah, I really appreciate coming on.
And hopefully we'll be talking again soon.
All right, Stay.
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We have a great interview for you on our last segment of the show.
We have Mr Kevin Bowen calling in from one of 75 the fan to talk about the Colts.
Kevin were so grateful.
Toe, have you on here? And we couldn't be more excited to talk about the Colts with you as you get into these team profile.
Siri's real quick, though, where can people find you at and where it was something that you just came out with recently.
Even go ahead and check out the great work that you dio.
Yeah, they find me on again.
Dan even could find me on Twitter at Cabo in 10 71 of 75 fan dot com has old my written content and I would say probably the most interesting thing that I've recently posted was projecting rookie playing time.
I would say of all of the teams, especially teams that didn't have a first round pick the cold head.
You know, two very, very attractive fantasy picks with Michael Pittman, Jonathan Taylor right off the bat.
So take a little bit of a deeper dive in the all nine of their draft, takes it and try to look ahead to how much they could fly here in 2020.
Yeah, especially with the Coulter, because there's a lot of questions we're gonna have some questions for you today about some of the rookie playing time that we want to be able to get into what we have for you.
Make sure you follow Kevin.
First of all, at K Boeing 10 70 you find on there.
He's a great follow, always great news coming out for the Indianapolis Colts.
And before we get into it, though, Kevin, I just want to ask you real quick.
How how are you? How's your has your family? Are you guys staying healthy through these times? We are appreciate you asking.
Yeah, immediate family has been really healthy.
My wife and I actually expecting our first child from in about 3.5 weeks.
Yeah, a lot of precaution to our family.
She just went into the hospital for 36 speak appointment and says, kind of been and eerie feeling.
But again, immediate family, everyone.
Is it healthy? With most important bang.
Hopefully you are as well.
And all of your listeners.
Yeah, we've been We've been great here as well.
I can't I can't really imagine having a kid right now.
That would That is kind of a little bit of scary, exciting as well, But yeah, I can tell this Definitely be a little bit scary with everything going on right now.
How didn't go in the hospital? We mean that not necessarily want to so best left to you guys.
I hope everything goes really, really well, Thank you.
And now to get into it, we've got the colts 1st 1st I'm gonna lead off with a course.
We're talking famously purple football purposes.
We're talking NFL purposes, for that matter.
You want to talk about the quarterback leading off you guys has brought in a new quarterback He's an old new quarterback.
I guess you could say Philip Rivers coming in to take over, take over set.
How do you think? The office of play calling.
How has that fit around filled rivers? Yeah, I think you things that we're gonna be really change from the colt this year from a play calling quarterback standpoint is more chances to hit on big place.
And then maybe even to no huddle smart.
I thought those were two areas of the offense that, you know, they didn't do a good enough job of a really do last year, which you Kobe percent under center.
And we know full well what? You're gonna get a pillow wherever there is a risk reward element to his game.
But he could throw the ball up and 50 50 chance is there going to be there for his wideouts to make plays? And when he doesn't have Mike Williams and and Keenan Allen sitting here in the white out corps, you guys like to you.
I hope that a Michael Pittman in Paris Campbell we'll have opportunities because Rivers is gonna take some chances.
So even though he is kind of more of that quicker rhythm quarterback.
When you look at how quickly you get sort of the ball, I still think there will be times throughout games where the Colts do try and get get the ball down the field a little bit more vertically, which is again, is not something that they did a very good job of last year.
And I mean, I think I think there's some question marks out there whether or not filled.
Rivers still has the arm strength because there was times they tried to push the ball down the field with the Chargers.
And it looked a little rough at times, always, especially when trying to get the ball down the field to Mike Williams.
But he doesn't have any trepidation about throwing the ball down the field.
That's that's for certain.
So maybe that will come in the play here, especially with T Y Hilton.
Ah, and some of the weapons that you guys have, because you do have a lot of speed on the perimeter, I think will be an interesting fit.
I do have Philip Rivers, I think right now in the teens areas, core back 14 quarterback, 15 which really wouldn't be too much to different than where he finished with the Chargers for the past couple of seasons.
And Frank, right, does have a way, especially coming from that coaching tree of getting more production out of quarterbacks.
And you necessarily think so.
This could be a dark horse sitting here, especially with the weapons that you have in the Office of Scheme.
But I do want to move to the question.
I think that's really on everybody's mind when it comes to the Colts, especially, and that's That's the running back, the backfield.
What to expect there? We've heard rumors about John and Taylor, Marlon Mack being a 11 punch.
What do you think that back he was gonna look like this season? It's a great question, you know? And I do think, um, no.
Marlon Mack and Johnson Taylor and some form will be splitting the early down reps.
You know, I don't know what that looks like.
Okay, Marla Mac for the first series of the game, and then it's Johnson Taylor for the next series of the game.
And do they definitely come off the field on third down? Because 19 Heinz the guy that the staff really believe that we're gonna have a key role for them.
We saw late last season more so on point return, but he had a couple of huge plays and been a missing ingredient for this offense.
When Hines was drafted out of North Carolina State, he was white out early in his career.
Big play receiver, You know, there's a running back to end.
His career had big runs.
There was tremendous in the return game.
That explosive chunk play element just hasn't been there for him offensively.
Still want to utilize him in that third down roll? You know? Think often.
Meckler Darren Sproles.
You know Danny Woodhead trying to insert from the other Philip Rivers running backs that have had pretty nice seasons catching a ball out of the backfield and something to keep an eye on a swell is, you know, Nick Syria, ****ytical bumping coordinator, actually touched on this earlier in the week, River says.
A tremendous champ and just naturally finding running backs, whether that be scripted plays or just be the progressions and no one that he could check it down to a guy and it's a high percentage play.
So you think Heinz will have that wrong there down? Obviously.
Everyone wants talk.
Taylor and Mac and I still think you utilize both of them.
I think you have to utilize Johnson Taylor a good amount because you don't draft the running backs 41st overall and say, Oh, yeah, we're gonna use him along.
It's gonna be a redshirt year.
No, Jonathan Taylor was Don't don't produce a resume in college right up.
There was just about any other running back in the history of college football.
And you need him to come in here and you're gonna start that clock or right away.
Um, the article that I posted on Monday that I keep a little bit earlier last year, the Colts had 29 rush attempts on average per day.
So if you're traveling that 2020 OK, 29 carries.
How do you divide that up? Let's say one goes to the new fullback. Roosevelt.
Next one goes to 19 behind.
Okay, maybe 15 to Taylor, 12.
The Mac out of the 14 like something like that is kind of how I do the running back breakdown happening behind still being the main guy out of the backfield on third down.
Well, with the my thought, my thought is more.
Ah, when you have situations like this throughout the NFL, when you have running backs that there's like a one a one B situation.
Do you think they're going to rotate them on? Obviously, 19.
Hainzl wrote to them on situational purposes.
But with Mac and Taylor, do think roti them on situational purposes.
Or would it be like a Syrians by Siri's? Maybe split? Yeah, that's a good question.
I mean, I think series by series, I No, it guess running back.
It's tired within a series, you bring him out.
But I think you want that guy to get some sort of rhythm.
You know, I'm gonna have a 9 10 place.
I would like for that guy to be able to whatever, Um, no get 33 or four carries and feel like they're getting into some sort of rhythm.
So on the cult of really haven't add a 12 part now, right? Right.
This hasn't 12 punches, especially in Philly, but he wasn't the play caller there.
The Colts haven't had really kind of two guys that they want to split carries for quite some time.
So that's something that remains to be seen.
But I think we're we on trading off seriously, Me would would make the most sense.
Those two guys playing person, second dad and then Hind comes on the field on third down.
Yeah, personally, as a guy who is going to be projecting and ranking these guys.
I'm hoping into a serious by Syria's basis because we get a little bit easier to kind of anticipate what to expect from those two guys especially.
But I'm so glad that you talked extensively about nine Heinz because that's something that I've been going to bring up in my shows, that he is going to be a factor as well, making those backfield really a mess when it comes to fantasy football purposes.
I think by the end of this season, if you ask just project the second half of the season, I would tell you Jonathan Taylor is probably going to take the lead before the first month, maybe six weeks of this season.
It wouldn't shock me if you appoint the 15 12 to carry split.
If that was in favor of Marlon Mack rather than John and Tailor to start off the year.
That's where I can go back and forth on.
But, yeah, there's a lot of things to take out.
There's someone's going to emerge.
And obviously it will be Taylor more times, and not once we get down the stretch.
It's gonna be early on.
I think is going to be interesting.
Uh, one quick question on that.
I don't think there's any chance Marlon Mack was gonna possibly be traded or look to be traded this year.
Yeah, you know that.
That is a question that a few fans have asked me.
I'm gonna say no, they really like Marlon Mack and, well, sorry for me to go on like a 32nd ran about feeling bad for Marlin back.
But I do feel bad for him, like he's 1/4 round pick that has produced great, very nice level compared to okay behind Frank Gore in 2017 they need nearly 1000 yards. 2018.
He goes over 1000 yards last year.
That's a great trajectory for 1/4 round pick.
Three years in the league and He's only 24 years old.
He just turned 24.
Now, unfortunately, he plays the worst position of football supply.
If you want to have a long term career, you know, so I.
But I don't think they will.
This is not like they don't like Marlon Mack don't work at it like that.
It's the fact of again running back, and they're very committed to the right Teoh ground game.
Sort of run the **** ball mantra and they look at it as OK, we'll get another guy in a cold and then obviously there will be a passing of the torch.
So I think considering the attrition that you see it running back, even though Jonathan Taylor had been extremely durable, I don't see trading, it would be very wise.
I mean, how much return would you get? I think you just kind of bites the bullet and say all right, you know, let him walk, maybe get a compensatory back, pick back form to move on from there.
Yeah, I mean, the only reason I could ever even really see them doing it would be because Marlon Max contract is up at the end of the season, so it would be a just get value for him for the sake of it.
But because this should be a playoff team, in my estimation, if you sign Philip Rivers, that's what they would be expecting as well.
I would imagine to your really a better team if you have both Taylor and Marlon Mack and I agreed.
I'm a big fan of Marlon.
Well, I kind of hope after this year he does get a chance to prove himself as a lead guy again somewhere.
But moving on for the wide receivers.
A lot of talk about T y holding coming out this week with contract extensions and everything like that from a fancy football purposes, though, do you see him being used in a difficult passage? Mostly was used as a deep field threat.
Guys still there, number one guy, But is he gonna be? May be used as more of a possession guy this year? Yeah, it's a great question because when you look a guy his age that flight as long as he has, you know you have the freaks of the world in Giulio Julio Jones being 1000 yard wide out but no really other guys that have lately that have reached 1000 yard number.
Ardmore of the possession guys where if Fitzgerald bigger bloody possession receiver Julian Edelman, out of the slot as a has a possession guy as well, that's not never really been helping day.
And you know, he obviously had kind of catches, but he hasn't been like a whatever 78 catch guy game in and game out.
Um, so I think where they look at health and they do think over the topic, it still makes in place.
And that's where the rivers arm strength question will commend.
Oh, plays well, but I also think that they want to try and utilize him underneath some crossing stuff of like, This guy is a 43 40 yard dash guy, and there hasn't been maybe enough of the yak and the big play ability with the ball in his hands that they would like.
So I think that is something that needs to be tapped into should be tapped into with his offense.
Mr Huge Year For Hilton, this is it's a contract year, and he just missed six games last even due to injury he talked earlier in the week.
You know about how he wants to sign one more contract here and in Indianapolis and then retire, but he's got to prove himself.
I think he was so durable throughout his career.
And then last year the injury started a pile of especially lower body injuries, and he just couldn't be on the field.
But he such a key guided this team.
They're one and nine without you.
I Hilton in the white up, which is a pretty crazy staff for an individual.
Be a non quarterback.
This is a big season for him, for sure to get back on track. Healthy wise.
Even though he's out the bloody type that maybe Rivers is used to working with, I still think he'll be a big boat focal point with backing off.
Yeah, I mean the the presence of production that he's provided for the team as their number one wide receiver.
I do think he becomes, Ah, a little bit of an unsung hero.
I do think he gets undervalued throughout people throughout the nation when they look at some of the top NFL wide receivers and their impacts for their teams, he Wild is definitely way up there.
That was my concern as well, too, with a lower body injury, especially for a guy who that typically leaned on his speed.
More sudden, any other at you that he has had throughout his career is when I was a little bit concerned.
But this is a guy who at this point his career has learned very well how to run routes.
Obviously, he knows how to.
He knows how to get open, who knows how to get separation.
He doesn't have to have that quick burst that he had maybe a couple of years ago.
Ah, and which leads to my next question if he doesn't have to be played that role, if you can play more of up, said Keenan Allen.
Type of role that phone Rivers is kind of used to the Woodbury see pairs Campbell sliding into that deep main threat role.
And what kind of production do you really see out of him or kind of leap that you might be taking his development this season? Yeah, I look at Paris Campbell as the future slot receiver for the steam.
You know, they weren't able to tap into his big play ability at all last season, you know, he was injured a lot.
He had four different injuries last year.
I mean, broken hand, broken foot.
Um, what else was with? Ah, a hamstring injury.
Maybe in ah, in training camp and then hurting as well.
So this is a guy that you've got to stay healthy for sure.
But again, it's big play ability of like 43 40 speed.
I think the fastest of any wide out at the combine last year when he was on the field last replacing seven games, average seven yards per catch.
Obviously a very small number for any white on helping small number for any tight end. Right on.
And that's something that this team has got to improve on with him.
You've got to provide more of the big play element for this team because he is a guy that you feel like, OK, high percentage, touch screen, quick inner crosser.
You can just kind of go and and that wasn't really utilized as much last season.
So it is a huge year for him, but I think he will be this team slot wide out and they are bullish on him for good reason, I think.
But yeah, that'll be. That'll be something. Teoh.
Continue to keep an eye on this one.
Just more of a personal thing for me.
When I was scouting Paris, Campbell before the Colts drafted him going through the whole draft process, I actually looked at him and somebody I thought could be a wide receiver that maybe should turn into a running back at some point.
It's curry just the way he was built with swarms of ability that he has.
And I thought because I thought he had a long way to go on his route.
Running development coming out of college there.
Uh, what? Just out of curiosity, what do you think of that? That's something I've talked about on my show before.
I thought you could be running back.
Maybe down the road? Yeah.
I mean, maybe a little bit of a gadget ish Percy Harvin type of guy, because, you know, he wasn't Urban Meyer's offense at Ohio State, and that kind of wants his role.
I still don't know physically if you're gonna hold up, you know? And whatever.
Be a 15 carry running back guy.
What Not I fully trust Frank, right? Still utilize him as that again slot receiver.
You know, maybe he's in the backfield for some gadget type wildcat types, but I think primarily you want him as as a wide out for no, I I agree.
That's that's the ideal way that they would really want to go another young receiver they just drafted.
That's going to probably have a big impact from everything that we've been hearing.
Is he a day one starter? And what kind of rookie season do we think we could have out of Michael Pittman this year? Yeah, I think he will be a day one starter.
You know, Frank Reich gushed about watching his USC film and being like, Wow, those Air 345 routes that I feel like directly on poorly to our offense and our routes that we have in our offense.
Nicole could not have that X wide out where, you know, you throw your trips to the writer left and then boom, there's your big body.
I opposite that could beat man coverage.
They feel like he can win at every level.
Honestly, you know, you look at his numbers over 1000 yards over 100 catches over 10 touchdown.
And he did it with, you know, struggling quarterback play early on.
It took a while before us.
He settled on a starter and it was a true freshman.
So, like the edge.
Oh, Borough, pro football.
So I think those numbers are really impressive.
I think he's one of them, or day one ready wide out to the NFL.
I think in a normal year he goes top 20 maybe even higher than that.
So the Colts waas day one immediate impact ability, and I fully expect him to be that wide out opposite.
Uh uh, Do you think he's gonna lead the team in touchdowns? Well, that's good question.
Um, shocked me to do honest with you.
Like Eric Ebron is a guy that is kind of led them in clutch long that we did it in 2018 and Hilton has never been a big touchdown guy.
That's always kind of the one thing, but you've never been big on Trey Burton is now their new number two tight end.
He's not a toll tight and going to.
So, yeah, I I could keep it being a guide that that very well could.
I thought it was great when they compared him.
Teoh Vincent Jackson just kind of confirmed the whole like you.
I mean, your doctor, Michael paper for the future.
You have to like it for the future.
But this was definitely a get filled burgers.
At least one big body type will had receiver, so you can feel a little bit more at home with what he's dealt with in his career.
I thought I was a great pick up.
I thought I made all the sense in the world with a fit.
I comes in right away.
He's one of the better blocking wide receivers out there.
So he's gonna help you on the perimeter with the with the Russian game and being able to break stuff and stuff like that.
So there's a lot of things he brings to the table.
And I thought you guys did need, ah, red Zone Target.
And he provides that instantly.
So I thought I was a great pickup. Definitely.
Getting a wide receiver who could start Day one in the second round of the draft is always Ah, phenomenal move, talking about the tithe allowed one more thing on Pittman and I guess more than the rivers saying crunching numbers before the draft.
And, like Philip Rivers, scribes with big body wideouts.
And I think that's something that we kind of know and you just referenced in Jackson.
But I was like, All right, let's look deeper at it.
So if you look at the last 10 years for Rivers has topped two leading White out each season with him.
I want to say 17 of the 20 have been at least 62 and nine of the 20 have been at least 64 Me tyro Williams, Mike Williams, Malcolm Floyd, Keenan Allen.
It 62 win over 200.
Whatever he has £210.
Something like that.
I mean, these air, some bigger body wide out rivers have kind of thrived with.
If you watch a highlight tape from last year River, it's more like a Mike Williams.
I like Really? Yes, William Moss and some people.
So I do think that sort of player like Pittman was an absolute well.
That's what filled rivers deep ball is.
It's, I want to throw it up to somebody where they can go get a 50 50 ball.
That's that's kind of his deep ball is surprising that he's able to get this quest with those bigger type of wide receivers throughout his career.
Ah, you have mentioned Eric, you brought a little bit earlier.
He's not on the team any more.
You mentioned him.
What's the rotations, but going to be between them, who is really going to be the lead tight end from a from a fancy respective from for receiving yards and catches and touchdowns? And are there? They're going to a lot too tight and sets frankly with this team.
Yeah, I think there will be a long, astray.
Bird can stay healthy.
You know he had the injury issues last year in Chicago, but Frank Rice uses multiple tight ends sets right.
If they're just not anybody in the NFL now, Jack Doyle.
From a plate count standpoint, he is going to play a whole lot, and he always has under Frank, right? Even when Eric Ebron was healthy oil without Snapple by 40 40 snaps a game.
But then, when you look out at the end, you don't have three catches for a touchdown, and it would be a pretty good day for So that's the biggest question of like Burton is a different body type than Ebron six to the sixth floor.
He actually probably is a little bit more of a complete tight end that Ebron maybe not as a not is just that pure, you know, pass catching tight end obviously could do a lot of that.
That's kind of neat, Brown sole purpose for being on the field.
So I think, you know, I think oil will get or plays and wraps and those sort of things.
And I still think Burton is gonna have a big role in this offense.
You know, it would be tough for me to pull the trigger on either of those guys is like a top 10 tight end or something like that.
Because I do think they will split a lot of wraps in It is more run focused offense, and you have some intriguing White House as well.
But knowing how much Frank right wants to use those tight ends, they still are gonna be on the field.
I don't see Jack Doyle being in the top 10 or even try Burn being a top 10.
But I do have Jack Doyle was one of my sleeper guys who might be just outside in that.
Maybe that top 12 area top 13 area where he might actually be consistent production because of your point.
When I see, I see Jacket will be on the field all time.
He's had success before in the past, when he's on the field, that much, he you know the only thing is, he doesn't always get the touchdown because that's where guys like Trey Burton comes in.
But I do want to ask another question, though.
What's the deal with morality? Cox? Yeah.
I mean, I still get in this kind of your third tight end, okay, He's probably more of a blocker.
You know, I feel like you see these X Maskell players.
Everyone's like, Wow, they're gonna come in here and be a great receiver, but like, it is kind of more of a blocker for Allie Cox.
You gotta grow into being more of a complete tight end.
Um, you know, sometimes might remember the colt had Eric Swope a few years ago played basketball at Miami, kind of a similar saying It's a big year for Alicante.
Kind of teeter in on light.
Are you gonna be a Swope where it's like some flashes? There's not that Okur definite number two tied at I've got tied.
It was a big need and Burton can't stay healthy.
You know that Allison opens up the door for Allie Cox were honestly for the Colts ago outside their own buildings.
Try and find another tight end, but I looking Alley Cox is kind of your third tied and again in this offense.
He's still gonna play a little bit, but he'll need injury before he plays a lot.
Okay, Yeah, because he was Somebody was talking about laws was gonna get special packages last season, and that really never materialized.
And then going in this year, they go after train burn.
So yes, so there's a lot of a lot of people who love, you know, But you said they fall in love, the basket player.
They fall in love with the athletic ability that he has, and it's just kind of interesting to me, but I have an agreement with you as soon as they signed Trade Bird and made a lot of sense to me because I'm with you.
Where? I don't think Moalim Cox was quite there yet, at least not quite there yet.
We could have the confidence going into this season that he could really be the number two tight end moving on from that.
Real quick, though.
I just want to talk about the defense a little bit cold, have a pretty good defense.
They have enough becoming defense.
And with them adding to force Buckner, What kind of defense are we going to be able to see this year? Fancy, perspective.
How many sacks, How many turnovers? I think this could be one of those.
Defense is not a lot of people are talking about, I think might be really, really good.
Yeah, Obviously, the trip for forced Buckner has gotten a ton of headlines is a rare trey.
You don't very often see team straight Top 15 overall pick for offensive tackles.
That's how much that position means the Colts and their defense and they need mawr of the production.
Like you said, they need more of a consistent pass trust.
They need to take the ball away better at it at a higher rate.
And I do think partner can impact every level.
This defense I made the whole nation saw last year.
We 15 Monday Night Football.
That's an NFL record for completion percentage.
The Colts are the only team in NFL history to have given up back to back seasons of the least 70% completion percentage.
That's not good.
So what color is a guy that they feel like it, disrupt timing and early in place? Make these quicker rhythm quarterbacks? Think twice.
I guess you know just about getting rid of the ball in those sorts of things.
So I do think the culture kind of the sleeper defense, for the most part, they bring back a lot.
We'll see how Xavier Rhodes comes in.
And if he can kind of revitalized his career a little bit after a shaky 2019 season, Um, I wouldn't be especially favourable.
Quarterback matches with the Colts have a lot of those.
At least I think more of those early in the season.
I think the Colts could be a nice little free agency, sort of, um, you know, weight waiver wire pickup was like, All right, That might give you a couple of scrappy turnovers and especially early in the year.
And obviously, you would need a waste.
A draft pick on him.
Well, the benefit.
You always have to get the plate Jacksonville twice this year.
So that should work out in your favor a little bit there at least, um before we let you go, there is a question that I want to ask everybody that I have on this show just to kind of get a consensus.
With everything going on right now, What is your personal feelings about the prospects of the NFL season actually being able to start on time? Yeah.
It's obviously a great question.
I don't have a great, great gut feeling on it.
Part of me thinks that now we're starting to see.
Okay, whatever mask are the PJ to are a major league baseball being floated around kind of early July.
The MBA could make a decision as well.
That gives me a little bit of hope.
Hopefully, this is kind of a thing that we see.
Go away a bit, Maurin.
The warm weather and, you know, potentially in a couple of months.
We have a better you.
Either It's more of a handle on testing and tracing and those sorts of things, or even handle on.
Obviously, dream scenario would be a vaccine well down the road.
But you know, the NFL wants to play this season and they don't need fans in the stands.
Obviously, that is ideal, but that is not an absolute marks for them from what they have from a TV revenue standpoint.
Until I going to make me, you know, guess right now I think they will play again.
I don't say that with a whole lot of conviction, but I just leave about her medicine a little bit.
I believe in people kind of coming together the next, you know, a couple of months and getting some sort of idea on how that will actually look.
It will be weird.
It won't be normal.
That's kind of life in 2020 and then hopefully by next year everything will be back to normal from a fan attendance and health standpoint.
Yeah, I mean, that's the most we can all hope for.
I try to hold on that I hope as well have nothing else out of the the need that's there for entertainment right now.
But like you, I don't feel confident in that hope.
But just have it for now.
And so we get closer.
Kevin, I want to thank you so much for coming on the show.
You're absolutely great as you always are.
I want everyone checks out your podcasts through the Kevin Corners podcast.
I always I've described to it.
When I heart radio myself, it's It's really a great listen, especially on your drives, to work wherever just sitting around the house right now, like most most people probably are at this moment.
Kevin, before you get out of here real quick again, just remind everybody where to find you and what something that you are working on now that people can go ahead and check you out for the future.
Yeah, thanks for plugging that again.
It's Cabo in 10 70 on Twitter.
As you mentioned, Kevin Corner is the podcast.
Um, I'm diving deeper into the coal traffic.
You know they like it's a bad night of looking at some Jacob East and film right now that I'm gonna post at some point here in the month of May.
So yeah, kind of looking at ah closer at this draft because the offense of heavy draft early on to the cold something that we haven't seen a whole lot, which will Which will piece fan of the owners out there. Excellent.
Kevin will talk to you again real soon, my man.
And thank you again for coming on the show.
Yeah, I appreciate having a **** good one. Take care.
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1075 The fan, Indianapolis.
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