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Let's take a look at this long, sort of long form version of Brady and ballot check and exactly how we got to this point of, well, Brady playing in Tampa Bay.
And I think that it's safe to say that Tom Brady and Bill ballot jacked a sort of they became the football version of the Evil Empire led by evil Darth Vader.
They built a powerhouse in New England.
They ruled over the NFL for almost 20 years, and really, they seemed destined to rule it forever.
Or at least until Tom Brady didn't want to play football anymore.
And we all know the history. Together.
They went to nine different Super Bowls.
They want six rings together.
The Patriots were at one time the snappy under dog going up against the greatest show on turf, growing into the villains of the NFL and building one of the greatest dynasties not just in football, but in professional sports along the way.
And, I mean, if there was such thing as an actual empire in the sports world, I think that's where the Patriots would be.
Unfortunately, some internal rifts, some internal differences and just, you know, eating themselves from the inside.
We saw an implosion that turned into one of the greatest player coach duos in sports history come crashing to the ground when Tom Brady left of free agency this year, is outsiders who aren't, you know, into the situation that includes myself, Tom Brady and Bill Belichick for at least some sort of perfect time built perfect chemistry as they just dominated over the NFL.
But apparently, according to some on the inside, they it was more like a father and a son trying to get along.
At least that's how some people have explained this situation, and I guess it was like Brady was that high achiever chip on his shoulder, and all he really wanted was Daddy's approval and acceptance.
On the flip side, Bill Belichick was that cold, stern, fatherly figure who only cared about the results.
If you got an A, he wanted to know why you didn't get an A plus on the Tom.
Brady finally wanted to be independent.
He wanted to be free.
He wanted to get away from what we understand.
Tom Brady was a great teammate while he was in New England.
We heard his teammates heaped praise on him over and over and over again.
They talked about his leadership.
They love how he approached the game of football.
Brady just seem to be one of those guys that he wanted to have sort of trusting friendships with everyone in the organization.
I recall Kyle Van Noy talking about his first time that he met Tom Brady and he walks up to, you know, Brady walks up the van annoyances.
Like Kyle they annoy.
Had no idea who iwas, But it wasn't all about Tom Brady. Bill Belichick.
Whether you know some of those page fans and I want a minute was an absolute is a great coach, probably the best coach.
But Bill Bell check was always about the bottom line and didn't give a second thought about cutting a fan favorite.
If you started showing decline or you're about to get paid a big contract, you were no longer welcome on a Bill Bell check team and where Tom Brady stood at the top of the NFL Mountain and he wanted to stay there forever.
And look, Bella.
Jackie's praised various Patriots players over the years that included Tom, but you never really saw him fully credit them for their accomplishments with the team.
It was always a team effort.
It wasn't all about Tom Brady, and I can't remember that a F C championship game in 2017 against the Jacksonville Jaguars, when Brady was playing with cut on his hand and belt check, was being asked about it after, and he says, You know, you had a cut on his thumb.
He wasn't, you know, wasn't you didn't play that a hand.
He didn't have surgery, anything like that, just really downplaying the things.
And I think, for the most part, Brady in Ballot Shack, where polite when they talked about each other and I don't know.
But there was sort of this symbolic distance between the two that just kept getting wider and wider and wider.
And if you believe those guys like success, wicked Sham and that kind of thing, the tension just sort of built over the years.
And everything kind of came to a head in 2000 and 17 you know, and we all know Brady for the good chunk of his career he was with Alex Guerrero was his personal trainer.
They created the T B 12 method.
Um, the T B 12 method is apparently what helped Brady perform at high levels so late into his career.
Oh, and there's got to be something to because Tom Brady has done things that no other NFL player had ever done in the past and played it elite levels that such an older age.
So I think it's at some point whatever Guerrero at whatever, something ever.
It's something that Guerrero out Square was doing.
It worked, and I mean, Brady won Super Bowls in his forties.
He contributed to Super Bowls in his forties.
It wasn't like Peyton Manning in his final Super Bowl, where the Denver Broncos won the Super Bowl.
Despite Peyton, and it looked like, you know Alex Guerrero and Brady together, they kind of They kind of found that magic formula for durability.
And what we saw is New England Patriot players flock to the T B 12 method.
Flocked to Guerrero.
Rob Gronkowski did it.
Julian Edelman did it.
Danny Amendola was there.
They all kind of turned around in the ass.
Guerrero for help.
I'll make Bell check was too happy about it.
He didn't approve of what Brady was doing.
Ballot check didn't like that.
Guerrero was working with his players.
He didn't like that.
The Patriots players were not listening to the Patriots staff and trainers, and he didn't like that.
Brady brought in a friend who was disrupting the way things were run in the Patriots organization.
We all heard the stories of Guerrero arguing publicly with the trainers.
We all remember the story of Gronkowski getting in trouble from Belichick because he wasn't big enough.
So basically what Bell checkers did is he put his foot down and he banned Guerrero from going on the flights, going on the sidelines during the games and from working on any other Patriots players besides Tom Brady in the stadium.
Basically, if a player wanted to follow Brady and disregard what the Patriots were doing that have to go out to the T B 12 center, do it themselves on their own time.
And basically, Belichick constantly emphasised everybody who would listen that Guerrero was not a part of the team's official staff.
And really, I mean, Alex Guerrero has a bit of a shifty character.
Yeah, there's been Tom Brady's body coach.
He was a trusted friend.
You control Brady's workouts every day, was in charge, really basically of anything related to Brady's health.
I mean, I think that even worked with Brady Chef at one point to make sure that he was doing exactly whatever they wanted Brady to put into his body.
And Guerrero was a bit of ah, you know he would.
He was a bit of a witch doctor that would just sell things that didn't work.
And and I think at one point he tried to sell a product that he claimed cured cancer, and he got in trouble for that.
And But what happened was is he found Tom Brady work to Tom Brady, and it worked.
Tom Brady stayed relatively healthy, Captain playing elite into his forties, and it all came down to the T B 12 method.
And Tom Brady to this day still believe that he's gonna play til he's 45 years old.
I think one of things that happened was this Bill Belichick, he Scott that the idea of keeping Brady to his 45 and Bilbao check has never been one to lose sleep over, cutting great players kind of right before decline.
And I think that he looked at Tom Brady is no different.
And should Brady be looked at differently, General wisdom would say that you know, the name on the front is more important in the back.
But maybe Tom Brady deserved his opportunity.
I mean, Teoh be treated a little bit different, I think was Jonathan Kraft, who said that Brady was up the Brady that he would stop playing whenever he felt like not playing Bell check wasn't sentimental.
He's first saw the end of Brady's career, so we drive to Jimmy Garoppolo in 2014 to be the heir to the Patriots.
Thrown and Bella Czechs.
Love for Garoppolo.
Apparently, according to the multiple port reports of a reading today hurt Tom Brady.
And apparently what it did was it sent a strong message celebrating that the franchise didn't believe he could really play until he was 45.
And basically it was a public disregard to the TV 12 method.
Guerrero and Brady himself.
And, as Tom Brady was looking at, Bill Belichick is like a father figure as he was going for approval.
It was actually Robert Kraft was more of a father figure to tall Brady and craft believing Brady, not with ballot check, talked about Garoppolo.
Belichick wanted to keep Iraq.
Garoppolo believed he could win Super Bowls with Garoppolo.
Brady said he wanted until he retires.
And for really the first time ever in Bilbao checks 10 year.
He had a power struggle with his owner, but in any sport, any business the owners always gonna win out.
So Garoppolo Bay are Project based gives Garoppolo to the San Francisco 49.
It's for like a second round draft pick.
But even after getting rid of Garoppolo always just seemed like Belichick was.
Even without grovel, he wasn't ready to commit to Tom Brady.
Brady wanted a contract that would show a commitment was 45 years old.
And balance check this cup, saying, Hey, man will give you a year to yo.
Your deals will well low them with incentives in this way.
If, if there was a sharp decline, he was off the hook and the rift just kept getting bigger and bigger.
The tension kept getting bigger and bigger, and who knows who's right and who's wrong in this situation.
I'm sure you all have your opinion, and, you know, I'm sure I've read lots of them in the past.
But and even though they tried to keep things steady in the media and act like there wasn't a problem, there was problems.
And then finally, we get to March 2020 and Tom Brady left the Patriots.
You left without his long term contract with them, went to Tampa Bay, went to Bruce Arians, who is a player friendly coach, was given more weapons.
Better weather, I think, basically kind of given everything that Bill Belichick and the Patriots never could have given him.
I think when we break it all down and I mean, look, the the amount of research I did for this was insane too much.
This is my assignment.
What are the ad man? Brady.
I think he just wanted appreciation.
He wanted acceptance and he wanted approval.
He wanted the T B 12 approved.
He wanted a pat on the back from Bill Baljic and Ballot.
Jack stood his ground, never gave him that approval, never gave him the commitment.
Never said You're with us till you don't want to be.
I think for Tom Brady at this point, it wasn't about winning.
It wasn't about money, it was about being wanted.
And Tom Brady didn't want to feel wanted, didn't feel wanted in New England.
We saw that on many different occasions by people talking about the Tom Brady situation and basically going through it is a sense of, for the first time, a braised career since he's going to be recruited.
He was going to be wooed.
People were going to gush over him and Brady, essentially like a son who's fed up of knock it.
In his father's approval.
He moves out of the house, gets a place of his own and searches for his own identity.
And now some people are saying they're saying that the empire has fallen.
The dynasty is over.
And let's face it, guys, those people could be absolutely correct.
But they also may just be waiting for Bill Bell checks.
Next apprentice is that day there.
Is that Jared Stadium? Is that Trevor Lawrence? Is it somebody we've never heard of before? That's kind of the way we got a look at this right now.
Alright, I'm done with that story.
I covered it. You're welcome.
It's what it is.
But I mean, I want to look at another thing here, man.
Obviously this whole Cove in 19 thing, it's it's screwed up the off season's and what the pages got in full back and Dan Fatality.
Obviously, they signed him prior to Devil in retiring, but I think that the pages probably saw it going.
Some people are struggling with this sort of just weird offseason, man.
It's not facing him at all.
Batali's of former Green Bay Packers with the Patriots now and I mean really is one of the new names and faces on the Patriots team.
And instead of going out there learning the offense, alerting his role, he's going through the entire basically, the early part of this offseason training camp conducted virtually, but it's not bothering the 26 year olds.
He hasn't even seen it as a challenge, and this is what he said.
Tune. Essenes. Ducky said. Quote.
Relatively speaking, I would say is an older player.
It's pretty similar to what we'd be going through were able to watch film and everything.
We have our playbooks and our ipads and everything so we can look through.
And as an older player, you kind of know where that what the job requires.
So you know how often you've got to be watching film and going through your plays and on your own and everything.
I would say The only difference is we obviously can't get together on the field right now, but other than that, it's been really similar.
We get to hit a lot of details, which is great.
It's kind of a unique situation for me, he said.
I have jumped around the league, a little bid, been to a lot of different rooms, tight end rooms, full back rooms, running back rooms, whatever you might call it.
But I've been all over the place.
I have prepared the same way, no matter what room on him.
I try to learn every single roll, every single job.
So whenever my number gets called, I'm able to do everything that they asked for me.
Now, look, the Patriots are a team that still uses the traditional tight end.
There's not many teams left in the NFL that still use are not a tight and a full back.
I apologize, and there's not a lot of teams left in the league that used the fullback like the New England Patriots do now.
I think that James Dublin was a role player.
He's not gonna be a Hall of Famer.
He's nothing without nature.
But he was a role player player that the Patriots kind of really needed.
And now, with no Tom Brady and Mawr arm or emphasis on the running game.
Vitali is gonna have a very, very important part to this upcoming season to keeping the Patriots running game going.
And just in general like this, this whole covert thing I know we're all going through and Rob, we're all dealing with it in different ways.
But, I mean, it's It's so different from typical NFL seasons, the new landscape for players, coaches, you know, as fans.
It's all different.
Everybody's kind of adjusting to know sports at all right now.
And and, you know, here in Canada, I don't know what's going on.
Other places here in Ontario were starting to slowly open up businesses.
Competitive athletes are allowed to start training again as of June 1st.
And you know the NFL, man, it wants to start on time.
So I kind of give kudos to really an old school old boys league who's been able to come out and really kind Ah kind of do things in a sense of using new technologies and figuring out how to do this stuff and because it's not something I would have expected out of the NFL, I would have expected Bill Belichick to say we're gonna have virtual meetings in a virtual offseason.
Now something tells me that someone had to teach him the technology and all that kind of stuff, and I'm sure that he would rather be sitting there with paper.
I mean, the guy won't even use a tablet on the field.
This goes beyond the pages.
Every team that's dealing with it right now.
And it's it's gonna be interesting to see if there's some sort of abbreviated training camp abbreviated, you know, start to the season If there is a season altogether.
I mean, that's still that's the unfortunate part right now.
Is there still jeopardy that there won't even be an NFL season? And that just sucks to be frankly honest with you, it just ****ing sucks him.
I don't know, man.
It is what it is.
And you just got Ah, you gotta, you know, teams got a deal that we got a deal that his fans and, you know, whatever it is, But there's just an insane situation.
And this has been a story that I've been covering since the beginning here for SportsCastr, and it's this whole Andrew Arab Jordan love Aaron Rodgers sort of thing.
And ever since the draft like I mean, it's just one story after another coming out, and this just always seems to be something that's on my docket to cover.
And now this former agents coming out and saying that at some point time it's gonna make sense for the Packers to trade Aaron Rodgers.
And basically, what's happened is big.
Since they've since the Packers have drafted Jordan, Love traded up to draft joined love in the first round.
There's no this question is, Could we truly see the Green Bay Packers one day? Maybe trade Aaron Rodgers? Now for me, I think the answer is no.
If anything, it'll be late in his career.
I just cannot see in any cir***stance the Green Bay Packers moving on from him right now.
I think there's too much.
Ah, it's too much just writing.
And guys, I gotta be honest with you before I go to keep going on with this story.
I guys still don't.
I could still cannot fathom what the hell Green Bay was doing, and it's not just taking Jordan love.
It wasn't getting any more offensive help on the receiver game for Aaron Rodgers, and they're talking about how they're going to be a running team and all this other stuff, and it's and look like I said, I've been covering this since the day of the draft, and no matter how many times I have sketched this out on a piece of paper and tried to figure out why this makes so much freakin sense, it still doesn't make sense to me.
I've got zero problem with them. Developing.
Jordan Young I got all our Jordan love.
I got a much bigger problem with them doing nothing to address the offense outside of that.
Besides a tight end in a running back, anyways, Joel Corry Ah, he con's actually see a scenario where the Packers do move on from Aaron Rodgers, and he said a trade in 2022 seems more likely than 2021.
The Packers would pick up 22.
6 $1,000,000 in cap room by removing Rogers, 39.
852 million cap number and 2022 from the equation.
There would be a $17 million of dead money, 20 to 22 from Rogers departure, just like with a traded 2021 Rogers 28.
3 million cap number in 2023 would come off of Green Bay's books.
So look, if the Packers were to go ahead and trade Aaron Rodgers, he will be, I think, turning what, 37 in this year.
It's not gonna happen anytime soon.
It's gonna happen down the road, and it's going to open up some cap space to help Jordan love and maybe help him get some weapons the way they have been given them to Aaron Rodgers.
At least this season.
Ironically, the fans and pundits have been calling for the Packers front office to help Roger in the present.
And I think there's a lot of people who believe the first out round selection could have been an offensive lineman, a wide receiver, anything of that nature, not a quarterback.
And like I've said this in the past, guys, you know, Aaron Rodgers has handled this with class, and at least publicly, he doesn't seem to be wanting to cause any ripples on a public side.
He understands this isn't this isn't Jordan loves fault.
He couldn't decide where he he doesn't make the decision about where he's going to get drafted.
He gets picked by a team and he's got a deal of it.
Yeah, it's a little bit funny because Aaron Rodgers upset and I think you should be, but at the same time, at the same time.
And I mean, like, this is exactly what happened to Brett Farve and you look at the ages.
Look at this. I mean, you've got an agent quarterback.
And when what, 2022 rolls around, Aaron Rodgers will be 39 years old.
Will he be a Tom Brady type of player where he's still playing at high levels at that age, where he's gonna be, you know, wanted around the league? Is he going to start showing a decline? Is he gonna fall off the Max Kellerman Cliffs? These are all questions that we won't know for a couple of seasons, but it's definitely something that it's gonna be interesting to keep an eye on to see how it could really all play out at the end.
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