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00:02:13
Alright, guys, what is going on today? I'll be doing another stream with a Jonah Holland.
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I'm very excited for this stream, but I just want to let you guys know that before we begin this, this podcast is not going to be your normal M b A talk show.
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We're going to talk about things.
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They will all relate to basketball.
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However, it will kind of be a little more than just This player is doing a good job this time is doing a bad job.
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So we'll talk a little more about aspects of the scope outside.
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The basic I'm being discussion as well is breaking down a little bit of film.
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And now let me introduce a Jonah Hong.
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What's going on? What's at my guy? How are you? I real quick.
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I hope.
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I hope everybody like the intro music give me some song requests in the comments, But, um, I didn't get to hear it.
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What song was it? Oh, I was playing down bad.
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I find, like, someone clean some clean J.
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Cole stuff that I found for playlist on Spotify.
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Because these events, we gotta gotta keep the legends anyways.
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So, uh, I guess.
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Let's just get right into it.
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So I stopped.
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I know you've gone through some injuries, obviously.
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And Clay Thompson is kind of in that similar ish state, I guess so.
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I kind of want to, like, learn, understand just what's the important Selvam not giving up, like, how do you kind of build up that mentality? So it's super hard, and I don't think a lot of people understand that being an athlete is like 80% 90% all mentality and all mental.
00:03:51
Um, first of all, it's how much dedication you put to the game, right? Let's just not even talk about the negatives.
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But from the positives and a strong mentality Mamba mentality, right? The best one, Um, you have to be committed to your sport.
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You have to love it, no question about that, right? And then when things aren't going well for you, right, if you even if you're having a bad game, right.
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But unfortunately for him, he literally couldn't play anymore.
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He towards a CEO.
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Uh, I did that when I was in eighth grade. It sucks.
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It's one of the worst injuries.
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It's very common for basketball players, especially female basketball players and Clay.
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He did it in Game six of the Finals, which is just awful because he couldn't even come back.
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And he worked hard and his team definitely needed him.
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He was super valuable.
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And he's one of the best shooters in the league.
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And I think ever, you know, maybe top five shooters, possibly an MBA history.
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That might be a strong argument, but, um, you know, I read articles about him saying that a C L injury, you know what? Recoveries between 10 to 12 months.
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You know, I think it can be much sooner than that.
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And hopefully it is for him.
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So hopefully he can recover back healthy and super strong, and I think he will.
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But he has to stay, uh, grinded and committed to his beliefs and from his foundation when everything was going well for him, right? Your mentality should never change.
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Based on what is going on with you, based on how you're playing experiences, right, you have to keep going no matter what's going on.
00:05:21
And even if you are the best like Michael Jordan, you can see through the last dance that he never gave up.
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He never stopped trying to be the best.
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And you know, Clay has that.
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Yes.
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So obviously people say, like, obviously we all know basketball is a physical game, but it's also a very I guess it's very important to be mentally stable.
00:05:42
So into the video of the NBA's made about Clay Thompson and this whole recovery process, it said at the end, I think it's actually in the middle, said Train.
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The mind the body will follow.
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How important is it just for basketball on general, to be mentally strong? I mean, it's super crucial for all athletes.
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It's super crucial for everybody in life.
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You have to be mentally focused on driven.
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No matter what you're doing in life, no matter what you want to do in life, even if you don't have it yet, right, you have to see it for yourself.
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You have to see and believe that you're going to get somewhere, um, and that you're going to make it and achieve your goals and dreams.
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So, you know, just for everybody, and especially for athletes like it is always going to be a roller coaster.
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Even if you are, you know Steph Curry and Clay Thompson and you play for the Golden State Warriors, right? You can see that.
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You know, the previous season they were not as good as the other years on.
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That happens with programs and happens with athletes.
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So you have to stay driven.
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You have to say mentally focused, especially with athletes.
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I believe you know, specifically with basketball players that every basketball player wants to be the best basketball player.
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And that is so amazing because, you know, it's a mentality that I believe every professional basketball player may have.
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Um, even if they are the best, or even if they're, you know, not even playing anymore.
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They always have that mentality to be the best and be the best for their team.
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Eso you have toe, you know, definitely stay mentally focuses.
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Super crucial.
00:07:08
Yeah, something outside is one that I thought was really almost gave me the chills, almost just watching that replay of his injury going to the locker room and then coming back in to shoot those two.
00:07:21
Those two free throws by that was like unbelievable, though I mean, that's its like just like absolute.
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That's just like an unbelievable mount ality to have when it comes to everything, just not giving up.
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I mean, he obviously had a humongous injury and he's walking off the court and then comes back to those free throws and I saw status at.
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I'm pretty sure he's playing 122 playoff games, and he's only missed one.
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So he was is a very durable player.
00:07:48
It was really the just really heartbreaking to kind of see that happen.
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Whoever he's kind of have that right mentality and just walk onto the court, shot his free throws and then I guessed it is painful process.
00:07:59
It was almost like showing to launch.
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Yeah, I mean, in that moment, you know, we don't really know what happened or what's going on until we see the m r I.
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But for him to walk one on an a c l is crazy.
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I don't think people understand like you can't.
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You're a C l is the main ligament in your knee.
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If you don't have that, you're not stable.
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You can't walk when I tour it.
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Even though when I was in eighth grade, you know, it was an awful feeling.
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It worst you don't even feel your leg, you lose all your muscles.
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So when I saw him do that, I felt a personal connection.
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I know a ton of other athletes felt that same way, you know, Um, but he knocked.
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Did he make both of them? He didn't make both of them.
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Yes, so that's even better.
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You know, I wouldn't put it past him to not do something like that.
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I think Clay Thompson, you know, I would definitely put him on that list of N B A.
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Players who would do something spectacular like that because, you know, I in that moment I don't think he did it for himself, right? I think he did it for his team, and I think he did it for the fans and the entire basketball world.
00:09:01
All the kids that are watching everybody like that.
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Israel, um, you know, because two points to him, it doesn't matter.
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Think about it.
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Doesn't matter that he makes he gets his free throw percentage from 30 in the game anyways, or something like that.
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It's more than you know.
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It's always more than just basketball.
00:09:19
Even though he did that basketball action, right? It meant more to him to do that and it and it definitely influenced a ton of people.
00:09:28
Yeah, also real quick. You did.
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You said just from the walk on it.
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But after he shot the free throw, he jobs back to I was like because my my dad and he tore his a c l playing basketball.
00:09:38
I mean, like like I remember seeing him extend the council time.
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So when played tops and tears his a c l that I see him like jogging up like, ready to play defense.
00:09:46
I don't even think you want that come out.
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Just just this whole mentality and borrow was unbelievable.
00:09:51
And I I honestly think you might.
00:09:54
I don't know if you consider underrated, but I feel like you should be talking about, like, a tad bit more.
00:09:59
Yeah, something.
00:10:00
Oh, I don't think he's underrated in the shooting basketball world, right? Yeah, I think you know he's not the strongest guy.
00:10:07
He's not the tallest guy.
00:10:08
He's not the fastest guy, right? And to a lot of people, especially on the outside, they look at that and that matters to them, you know, it's all about how it's all strong.
00:10:18
How fast you are and that athleticism matters.
00:10:22
But, you know, you have a shooting ability like clay and kind of rather see that in the sense, but that's just my opinion.
00:10:30
But I think that he is going to definitely come back stronger than ever.
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And a lot of people might, you know, I'm not going to be surprised, because I know that he might have the best season ever in his career.
00:10:41
I'm just saying it now.
00:10:43
Um, but a lot of people might be shocked by that.
00:10:46
So I'm just curious you did say that you think will come back stronger than ever and watching the little do***entary video they had about his recovery that I think the doctor or him or somebody said that he will be returning MAWR, I guess. Maybe physically inclined.
00:11:02
Just like it was, like badly, faster, like a jump.
00:11:04
I really house.
00:11:05
How did that work after getting injured? Like how? How do you come back even better than you were before.
00:11:10
Like like, how does that happen? Yeah, it's kind of ironic when you think about it, but especially with their a c.
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L.
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There's 34 ways of repairing it, right? you can either get a cadaver, which is, you know, a dead person's a CEO.
00:11:23
That's what I had to get because I was so young that I was still growing up time.
00:11:27
Ah, the other options are you get a piece of your hamstring.
00:11:30
Um, you got a piece of your patella tenant, right? And so there's different ways.
00:11:36
So I'm sure he other probably got hamstring or patella tendon, Maybe a cadaver.
00:11:42
I don't know doesn't really matter, but I'm sure he's in good hands.
00:11:46
The rehab itself is just, you know, the day you get surgery is day number one, and I don't think a lot of people understand that, especially athletes, because they're so mentally distraught and they're experiencing all this terrible pain in the moment.
00:12:02
But day one is the day you leave that hospital or that doctor's office from the surgery and you wake up all drugged up, right? That is day one, and you're only going better getting better from there on out.
00:12:13
And you have to count down that 6 to 8 months time period, right? And it goes by, you know, it feels long, but at the end of it, you're like, man that went by quick because my month three you're feeling strong, right? You're getting right.
00:12:28
You're so anxious to get on a treadmill toe run toe walk right after you get an A C l surgery.
00:12:34
You're on crutches for about a month, right? Without even putting your foot down on the ground.
00:12:39
It's awful.
00:12:40
It is not fun.
00:12:41
Um, you know, and especially when you get these surgeries in the summer, you can't do anything.
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You know, you just feel like you have to start your life over.
00:12:50
You know, especially for him.
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It's his career.
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If you can't play basketball, he's not gonna be able to so, you know, support his family and live his life.
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So, you know, it is super important, the rehab.
00:13:03
But, you know, I got stronger and I got a lot faster.
00:13:08
You trained 2 to 3 hours a day and, you know, you just get so committed in that in that time period in, um, he's just so driven that I know he's getting, you know, at least probably in my guests, 1000 1500 shots a day.
00:13:29
Easily, easily He's a killer.
00:13:33
Yeah, I do agree in just before I move on to our next topic.
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I remember his dad said that there's the three ages.
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They got 1/2 through life. I think it was.
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Stay healthy, stay humble and stay hungry.
00:13:46
And I really think he's doing that because, as you said, but by month, three years, hungry to do, to do, I guess anything based on just to get better in a way.
00:13:54
So um early and I was on to something, I guess I'm a little bit different.
00:13:59
We're going toe or she will break down some film with you guys.
00:14:02
I'll make sure that over a wide a doctor would do all that fun stuff.
00:14:06
We're going to talk about your honest on Tate Akufo now.
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I guess I want to say this.
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We don't make this a big discussion, but in my opinion, I think he could maybe turn out to be one of the NBA's best players.
00:14:20
Just because of I feel like he's bring something different to the game of basketball.
00:14:23
But let's watch this film and I guess we could talk without a little bit after.
00:14:27
So yeah, I mean, I would go ahead and play the film, but I would definitely say that Gee, honest, uh, might already be one of the past m v eight lawyers.
00:14:40
You know, he needs to get some rings, even though.
00:14:44
Yeah, I I agree.
00:14:46
I I think you could definitely get there, though.
00:14:48
So, at, anyways, let me Yeah, let's let's watch this film real quick.
00:14:51
Just talking about you want me to do and I'll do it.
00:14:59
Yeah.
00:15:00
I mean, he is able uses pivot foot in the paint.
00:15:03
Um, you know, he also use the shot fake.
00:15:06
So, you know, you can see that even when he's the tallest guy out there, he's still not losing his basketball fundamentals.
00:15:15
He's playing real basketball, but at the same time is using his athleticism, and he just doesn't really good job.
00:15:21
Yeah, I have watched that beginning clip a few times, and it just it just kindly proves my point more than just how, like, unique of Like, I guess I'm body.
00:15:30
He has just toe to be such a versatile player doing all things on the course.
00:15:34
We see him just bullying is on his defender right there.
00:15:37
So anyways, on to the next play now are This is a quick replay.
00:15:42
Yes, can see on our Andrew Wiggins to But anyways, here's Ah, here comes and explain.
00:15:56
I think that was it. Just a just a defensive highway.
00:15:58
Anything you want ad and I'm just a good block.
00:16:00
Just your position.
00:16:01
I mean, he's not tall where he's like, if you're that's all, you should be able to do that.
00:16:06
You know? Of course, now hearing is at a Houston.
00:16:14
They have this another defensive chase down block, just pure heart.
00:16:21
Like you don't see every n b a player sprinting down the court Sometimes, you know, um and and he's one of the best, and he doesn't have to do that right.
00:16:32
But you goes hard every single play, right? If his players air dog helmet core, he sprints and he doesn't care, he's getting down there.
00:16:40
He's making that defensive play, and he knows that.
00:16:43
Most likely, if he makes that defensive play, he's going to get the ball back like he does now and then be able to turn it on on the offense event.
00:16:53
Yeah, I agree.
00:16:54
And ashes like important.
00:16:55
All aspects of basketball is well like.
00:16:56
All I remember is like everybody's looking my here.
00:16:59
The coaches were screaming like Get down, get down and you could just see like you could have almost watch like the way he runs.
00:17:05
And he was just trying so hard.
00:17:06
It's just so important to always put in maximum effort.
00:17:09
And I guess everything you do buy in basketball as well, you know, a sore very good point.
00:17:17
You know, Im pushes the ball up attacks left side.
00:17:22
Easy. Layup.
00:17:24
Um, you know, you just understand for game of basketball, wherever the ball goes, the players should go.
00:17:30
But you know, he's trying to be faster than the ball, and that means that he will always have the ball and control the ball.
00:17:37
And you can obviously see that you have to incorporate both offense and defense of effort.
00:17:42
Yeah, I agree.
00:17:43
And also something you too.
00:17:45
I'm pretty sure thinking he picked up his dribble like, around like this area, and I'm not gonna wind it back, but just like the way he's able to move his feet with those big those big euro steps and just driving to the rim, I I think that's unbelievable.
00:17:59
Yeah.
00:18:00
I mean, you know, he's in shape, right? he's got.
00:18:05
He's already got the height.
00:18:06
He's got the leg right on.
00:18:07
You got to do a stay in shape and get stronger and faster.
00:18:10
He probably is on a really good diet.
00:18:12
Trains hard Work's already doesn't lift too much.
00:18:15
As you can see, um, he's obviously basketball player physique.
00:18:20
So you know he's not like training for the wrong thing, right? He's doing exactly what he's.
00:18:26
He's doing it the right way.
00:18:28
Yeah, I agree.
00:18:29
So we'll just do a couple more place of these them move on to ah tar next topic of discussion.
00:18:45
Just gonna be Oh, it's got that.
00:18:48
That seems like a little bit basic.
00:18:49
I don't know if you could see something that I can't, but I mean again, like, you got to give credit where it's due, and I'm going to repeat the same thing.
00:18:56
He is just beating everybody down the court.
00:18:59
He was giving more effort.
00:19:01
He has more drive.
00:19:02
And, you know, um you knows how old you get an easy third, right.
00:19:07
You don't have toe shoot, you know, 18 shots out on the perimeter.
00:19:11
To get 30 points on you gotta do is one floor.
00:19:14
Get some lay ups, you know, run the room.
00:19:17
Yeah.
00:19:18
I don't really want to show these of these next place, but I'll do anyways this for the for the contents, saying this is against my favorite team, but it is very, very dynamic.
00:19:28
I guess he had.
00:19:29
I mean, a lot of times he's always driving left, and I think a lot of defenders.
00:19:35
You know, if you rewind a bit, you can kind of see where the defenders guarding him and how he's guarding in your little Yes.
00:19:50
So, you know, unfortunately, jihadis is a lot taller than that guard, but the guard has an advantage, Right? Is lower to the ground than Ji honest.
00:19:59
And Jonathan has to get down to the ground to drive to the basket.
00:20:03
So the guards should be, you know, right upon him.
00:20:06
Forcing him, right? Definitely getting that ball out of the left side of his shop pocket.
00:20:11
Definitely not falling for the job.
00:20:13
Step to the right.
00:20:15
Um and he does.
00:20:17
You know that guys in the paint, but he ends up not even helping, so it doesn't really matter.
00:20:22
And, uh, everybody else is just too late.
00:20:24
And once the honest is in the paint.
00:20:27
You should just back up.
00:20:30
Yeah, I agree.
00:20:31
So what does play this one? If you replay, this animal can vote on world and then the help wasn't there.
00:20:37
So system, you know, it's just it's great basketball on John.
00:20:41
This is an offensively but kind of a dumb defensive play.
00:20:44
Uh, you know, I agree.
00:20:47
So hope.
00:20:48
Hope for you guys like like discussing the film a little bit.
00:20:52
Let me know in the comments.
00:20:53
We should keep that up.
00:20:54
But anyways, I I did mention that Jonah's might be the go, but I will talk about another person that people might say It could be the grace of all time.
00:21:03
Michael Jordan.
00:21:04
Now we saw a couple of episodes ago in the do***entary How Steve Kerr talked about a scuffle.
00:21:10
They had, um, with each other during practice.
00:21:13
So I kind of want to know because a lot of players were kind of saying he was scary, a little bit intimidating, but whoever did kind of bring out the best in them, I guess, being kind of tough around them.
00:21:23
What what do you think makes like a good teammate like Is that just like not how it should be anymore, was it just, like a different era, I guess, of respect towards people like Tuglaq is being a teammate.
00:21:34
Yeah.
00:21:35
So I don't kind of understand why.
00:21:38
Um, people are even having a debate about this, right? First of all, I don't think MJ was even a bad teammate to begin with.
00:21:47
I don't think when he said or did toc Kerr and his other teammates was crazy, right? I think Kobe definitely has some more intense stories.
00:21:56
Um, and, you know, probably LeBron and things like that.
00:21:59
But, you know, MJ is one of those guys you know, to be the best people don't understand.
00:22:07
You know, we I think we just casually say that right end is the best.
00:22:10
MJ is the best, right? But really be the best, right? That means you understand who you are as a person, and you understand the value of others around you.
00:22:19
And you understand that you as an individual can never do it alone, right? That's that's anything in life.
00:22:25
Um, did you do goodness and do good to others? Right.
00:22:29
It'll circulate back to you, and m j knew that it wasn't just him out there, you know, those weren't just his rings.
00:22:36
It was everybody's. It was everybody's time.
00:22:38
And everybody had to be committed to him, you know, and vice versa.
00:22:43
So, you know, Steve Hurt.
00:22:45
Is this a phenomenal player? We can see his highlights.
00:22:47
I don't think a lot of people watched him until this last dance do***entary, which is sad because it's like, you know, do all of these upper players are they only highlighted because of M. J.
00:22:59
No, you know No.
00:23:00
Now, because people see that seeker was actually, like, really good in a really good shooter.
00:23:06
Um, so, you know, always give credit where it's due, But, um, I don't think MJ was ever a terrible teammate and he has to control everything out there, right? And until you are in that position and in that space, you won't understand it.
00:23:22
But from from an outsider looking in and from, you know, me when I where I've been there, right, he's carrying the team.
00:23:28
He's carrying the entire organization raised.
00:23:31
He's scaring the entire MBA at that point, like he's just putting on a show for the world, in a sense, right and He just has to make sure, like, you know, he's obviously a winner.
00:23:42
No doubt he's trying to get that right.
00:23:43
He's being the best.
00:23:44
But at the same time, you know, if he has to carry himself in the best of ways at all times, on and off the court, in everything that he does, I mean, you can.
00:23:54
Obviously, there were cameras around him, 24 7 which was probably really annoying.
00:23:57
But he always held his character and to be the best not only means from his skill in basketball level, but who he was as a person and how he influence others and how infectious that waas.
00:24:13
Yeah, and something that I feel like people who don't understand is that he wasn't doing it just to be like a mean part, like he wasn't just like calling like players like room names and, like I'm trying to, like, start like a fight during probably he wasn't doing it out of like an evil like Perspectively Hughes is doing.
00:24:31
You just like to get the best.
00:24:33
Everybody was kind of give them that like better mentality on the court.
00:24:36
I don't think a lot of people unless you really like playing, like, understand, to get a basketball or just teamwork in generally how that works.
00:24:44
However, we are hearing other people like you don't as has I mentioned something like if somebody called me that during practice, like I'm gonna start throwing hands.
00:24:52
So do do you think Michael Jordan and maybe should have toned it down a little bit? Or do you just kind of think he's all right? Cause in my opinion, I honestly think that what he did was was five years ago because he also said, When you're playing against teams like the Knicks or the Pistons there, they're going to be tough Thomas trying to get you guys ready for that.
00:25:11
So I don't think that everything he did was almost genius.
00:25:15
No, and, you know, I don't think he ever crossed the line.
00:25:20
But I think and everybody obviously sees this, that his mentality was different in a lot of people, you know, it's it's only that 1% that has that.
00:25:30
So that's obviously Michael Jordan, right? And for him to get everybody else to see it and feel it the way you did right, because he knew he wasn't going toe do it by himself.
00:25:42
So he has to be infectious.
00:25:44
Everybody around him for them to either.
00:25:47
You're either gonna He's one of those players.
00:25:49
This is my territory, right? So he's already owning this space, and he deserves that, right? So now that he owns the space, he's he's letting everybody know this is how it's gonna happen.
00:26:01
This is what we have to dio.
00:26:03
And if you know you're not on this same boat, don't be here, right? Maybe that's why they weren't so scared about Robin not being there, right? Because they probably knew he was on the same page, right? They know he's a little crazy.
00:26:18
He wants that fun.
00:26:19
He wants to do his thing, whatever.
00:26:20
But they knew at the end of the day he would show up and be there, you know, is that wrong? Today in today's world, you do that in college, right? You're getting in trouble for that.
00:26:29
You're not even allowed to play in the game.
00:26:32
Um, but then you know, you get to the MBA.
00:26:36
It's different, but, you know, it's crazy.
00:26:40
Yeah, I believe that That's like something that's like the reason why I guess I kind of like, has robbed a lot.
00:26:49
This isn't really like all their, I guess, off the court.
00:26:51
But he was is always there, committed like they didn't really need a word like he came back.
00:26:56
But you already know that there that they're all going Teoh our guest, that he's going to be there for everybody like it doesn't matter if their own training after practice and he's out like wrestling or whatever on TV, because they already know that he's on the court.
00:27:09
He's putting in his knocked from effort.
00:27:11
I think that's probably that's just we saw with John Asante Taku Boat that was really important toe have with anything is always putting the maximum effort as long as you do that you don't really need.
00:27:20
The coaches want you to worry about you.
00:27:22
Yeah.
00:27:23
I mean, look, when people have these debates and arguments about who's the best, right? We always look at the numbers.
00:27:30
They always look at the rings, always looking statistics, right? You got to see who was out there that was so infectious, right? Who was out there that changed the game, right? If they were not out on that court we know everything would be different, right? And so you gotta look at those players now, right? Jonah's on the court, bro. It's infectious.
00:27:52
You know, he's not allowing his teammates to act up, you know, granite basketball.
00:27:58
You always make the stakes, right? We always have room for that.
00:28:01
But if he's armed, that campaign ship stage right, he is preparing his entire team.
00:28:07
Right? Michael Jordan was back working out when they lost that.
00:28:10
You? He was back working out that next day, right? And his tea was there, right? There's no question about it.
00:28:17
And they all knew that they had to be there.
00:28:20
It wasn't about what contract they signed.
00:28:22
It wasn't about what the coach said, right? It was about what m Jason.
00:28:27
And you know, maybe MJ didn't even tell them he was going to go work out, right? I think he may be.
00:28:32
It may be told a couple, right, but MJ was gonna go on regardless by himself, but he may have not even said the people.
00:28:38
You gotta be here or else, right? Like he wasn't.
00:28:41
He wasn't crazy.
00:28:42
He wasn't making people get up out of their beds, right? They just did it because of him, right? It's almost like we would have to.
00:28:49
Same thing.
00:28:50
That's how infectious it is, right? But now, when people are really having conversations about Kobe Bryant, LeBron James MJJ honest Kawai, you know people back in the day who was infectious, you know, take out the numbers and the rings and you know, it's It's team at that point, right? What if MJ got to the championship, right? He was the best.
00:29:11
Like James Harden, right? James Harden, his group right? What if M.
00:29:15
J just lost every year with MJ, Sylvie, MJ or considered the best? Probably not right.
00:29:21
But, I mean, those were all valuable moments.
00:29:23
Obviously, we can see in the last dance, right? But it's cool when we get to go back inside.
00:29:31
Yeah, I agree.
00:29:32
So what? Wolf stick with the last dance on? This will probably be our final topic, but I'm sure you heard that he kind of gave the do***entary ago during LeBron's during his championship.
00:29:44
Pretty with the Cavs. I don't know.
00:29:46
I don't have you heard that that rumor, but I feel like I was a big love.
00:29:51
I mean, LeBron's giving my favorite player.
00:29:52
Regardless, he's he's my am J.
00:29:54
I mean, people like Furies, and they all had Coby.
00:29:56
I have LeBron James.
00:29:58
I looked up to him so much as a kid, so he will always be my Jordan and my favorite player.
00:30:03
However, watching the do***entary, I'm not, like, so convinced, like man like Jordan, Lee really is like the go six for six in the finals.
00:30:11
Just all the hard work like, I guess I know LeBron's doing this, but I just kind of feel like Jordan.
00:30:17
I kind of had that MAWR desire to when I feel like LeBron's more about getting his teammates on better in a way.
00:30:24
So you think that do you think that this do***entary kind of seal the deal on this? Ah, go discussion, You know, as a do***entary sampling and just knowing production.
00:30:36
I think they did it in the best way possible, right? They were releasing two episodes every Sunday.
00:30:41
They make people wait and were anticipated to watch it right And the way that they did it right? It wasn't just about MJ was it was so much more valuable.
00:30:52
So, yes, I think it dominated in that regards Yes.
00:30:57
Um, and no.
00:31:00
When a Kobe do***entary comes out, I think that's gonna be a jackal.
00:31:04
How many different perspectives and into that situation? Um, and LeBron James, You know, I think it's gonna be great as well, but maybe not, as you know, powerful.
00:31:19
I don't think it touched as many people, right? I don't think it will touches many people into similar ways that MJ did.
00:31:26
But this one reporter in the last dance said this amazing thing and it hit me.
00:31:32
She said that, You know, there was social media about then.
00:31:35
In MJ's time, this one of my exploded right following the Internet would have broke down.
00:31:41
And I believe that, right? Can you imagine if MJ was happening right now? Right.
00:31:47
The Internet in all social media, all the branding, right.
00:31:50
All the fashion, the lifestyle of culture, right? People don't understand how crazy that is, right? You know, people have Nike contracts.
00:31:58
They you know, they do other things outside.
00:32:01
You know, they have that one or two big name brand.
00:32:03
Michael Jordan was fortunate to create his own brain and kind of dominate in that industry.
00:32:08
And I think he still does to this day.
00:32:10
But, you know, if that was happening right now, Holy ****.
00:32:16
And so you think about right, We have I, Ricana.
00:32:21
We definitely have LeBron and Kobe in the same sign, right? And now at MJ into that right now with all social media.
00:32:28
Oh, no.
00:32:30
We'll put will add their two or three other best players.
00:32:33
And that's not here.
00:32:34
That they would choose, like impotent and Dominic will be, would have shocked And, you know, Fisher or something like that, or somebody else or Metta.
00:32:41
And you know, we'll just and LeBron will have lied.
00:32:44
And, uh, you know, Anthony Davis or something like that, Whatever.
00:32:48
And, you know, do we still think MJ is going to be NJ? I say yes.
00:32:57
So, you know, it's just funny how somebody so great happens in that time period and open it up for the rest of the world, right? It was perfect timing.
00:33:07
I think everything happens for a reason, right? I'm especially his story just coming out from such an old age in a sense offer.
00:33:14
Your place will not even really meeting that good.
00:33:16
And then he ends up like playing two sports professionally you know, dominating one sport and then coming back.
00:33:21
You know, he's just doing greatness.
00:33:23
It's literally greatest.
00:33:25
Yeah, it really is.
00:33:27
I agree.
00:33:28
When the reporter said that, that was kind of made me think I'm like like Like, he's like he's this, like something now I just feel like it was almost Michael Jordan.
00:33:37
I kind of feel like watching every games.
00:33:39
It's kind of like Michael Jordan's here.
00:33:40
I like the NBA's.
00:33:41
It's all like they're like he comes back out of playing baseball with um with the White Sox, then scores like 50 points is like like like like how that's is not like possible and I just can't I just can't imagine that And he's there.
00:33:56
So I'm like when you talk trash like, I feel like he could just like like, stand by it like he could say something and I used it.
00:34:03
I mean, yeah, is Michael Jordan.
00:34:04
He's going to crush me like I has got to do with it.
00:34:07
It's insane.
00:34:08
It's just like when you're in athlete and when you play at a higher level and you're just watching that do***entary, right? Even I I can feel it like when I'm that 56 year old kid, right? I even go back to that time right before I had any of this.
00:34:26
That do***entary is so strong.
00:34:30
And, um, you know, it's so inspirational to just know and feel the type of environment that he played in almost every single night.
00:34:39
I mean oh, my gosh.
00:34:42
Hearing that crowd playing that type of environment, Yeah, it was probably stressful, but it was probably also the best feeling every time.
00:34:51
And he knows that, right? And people are always, like, wire his eyes like that.
00:34:55
You know, once he look all crazy or something, I don't even know.
00:34:59
I don't even really pay attention to it.
00:35:00
But, um, it is just, you know, I I still live for that.
00:35:06
Even though, you know, I never believe that I'm gonna play in this big environment, right? Because I'm not going to play anymore really like that.
00:35:12
But I know that one day went to kind of influence that many people are one a lot of people to kind of cheer me on, and I want to be able to do the same thing, and, you know, it's just great to kind of be in that environment and see what he did every day.
00:35:28
Yeah. So I'm just curious.
00:35:29
Before we conclude this show, I want to know your opinion.
00:35:31
Do you think that I players following Michael Jordan? Where did you consider Kobe? The closest version to Jordan? Um e s fault during filed.
00:35:41
Because my pain, I believe that every the pick a player that would that's hasn't, like similar, like, winning mentality.
00:35:47
Just the leadership, like the wriggling all that I feel like Kobe is just as close to Michael Jordan is we can get I don't know if you would agree on that statement.
00:35:59
I definitely would.
00:36:01
Um you know, I think they're kind of very similar and how they play.
00:36:09
Uh, you know, people are gonna be like, No, Kobe did this move empty? Did this move? That's not what I'm saying.
00:36:15
You know, body type, wise weight.
00:36:17
Waas I waas you know, they were very, very similar.
00:36:21
The error was kind of saying, you know, Kobe obviously looked at M J and followed MJ's, like, every step.
00:36:27
So, yes, I think he was the next breed.
00:36:30
You know, that next generation guy, um, that we could probably relate the most MJ and you know, then LeBron comes in and kind of has a different style.
00:36:43
So, like I said before, and like I said previously, I don't think there's one style over another, right? I don't think one knocks and other, um, but one of the day I do believe in basketball talent, and I believe in basketball skill.
00:36:58
And, you know, I, you know, I take away strength that that want to take away height and of athletic ability, right? It's kind of all about how consistent you are with the basketball.
00:37:12
And, you know, like I said, how infectious that is, toe others.
00:37:16
And if you can combine the two right physically and mentally, you will be the best, and that's how it works.
00:37:24
So you know, it's so unfortunate to not see Kobe here this day, but I would like to know more about who MJ was inspired by, because there's always going to be an inspiration for somebody I believe, Um and so you know, I don't think MJ touched on that that much.
00:37:45
I don't know.
00:37:47
Maybe he could be his dad, I guess.
00:37:48
Like at least baseball wise, I was probably one of us for you know, that everybody's like, not everybody, right? But I'm saying you know somebody who wasn't there were you never met, you know, almost like a, um, invisible drink or invisible person that you saw on TV.
00:38:07
You know, at the time you probably don't see them on TV, But it was just somebody that he knew wanted to like.
00:38:13
Um, so, yeah, you know, definitely is Dad.
00:38:16
And that's that's awesome.
00:38:18
Yeah.
00:38:19
Anyways, we'll wrap it up real quick.
00:38:21
Um, one of my viewer's says Kobe even sounded like m j.
00:38:26
I kind of from that was a little bit funny, but anyways, well, law, yeah, Kobe just made it more intense.
00:38:31
I mean, like, yeah, you know, And people will probably argue that Kobe was crazy and and, you know, I've had people personally tell me stories about him where he's taking people out of his workout line because they were going to slow in a drill.
00:38:45
And he's just the type of guy that, like you, literally said, I don't hang around lazy people.
00:38:50
I don't associate myself lazy, but let me just I was wondering up real quick, like that's It's not like crazy.
00:38:56
That's just being like a good team like wall in your whole team.
00:39:00
Just to be the best one of the Just make that clear, like like that shouldn't be like if you call that crazy, then you just don't like understand sports.
00:39:08
That's kind of that's kind of how I would think of that.
00:39:12
Yeah.
00:39:13
I mean, I believe that, like both MJ and Kobe, Kobe were both of those types of players that knew they wanted to win every single game, every single championship and do something great.
00:39:23
And they both are the types of players to also want to leave the MBA being the best and making sure that they remain the best for a long period of time because they believe they are the best, right.
00:39:37
And you know, I say this to a lot of people.
00:39:40
We always see, you know, MJ and Kobe talking do***entaries together videos and things like that where they're saying, you know, Oh, no, he's the best.
00:39:47
He's the best, right? That's just production, right? That's just in front of the cameras there.
00:39:53
Probably.
00:39:54
They were probably the best of friends, right, all that stuff, but they each believe that they were single handedly That's better than the other one, you know? And we could see that the mentality was like that.
00:40:06
Kobe just is more of an extra when I can't tip it.
00:40:12
Yeah, I agree.
00:40:13
So, anyways, that will That will wrap up the podcast.
00:40:16
I hope you guys kind of like this, uh, this stylish show.
00:40:19
Let me know in the comment.
00:40:20
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00:40:30
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00:40:32
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00:40:35
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00:40:38
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00:40:39
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00:40:44
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00:40:52
I hope you guys have a great rest of your week.
00:40:56
Thanks.
00:40:57
And I said, Yeah, thank you guys again outside the huddle.
00:41:00
We called it that today.
00:41:01
Um, you know, we talked a lot about N B A modern issues and topics.
00:41:05
They up to date with everything and, you know, thank you, Isaac, once again for these great questions in great film and content.
00:41:12
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00:41:16
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00:02:13
Alright, guys, what is going on today? I'll be doing another stream with a Jonah Holland.
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I'm very excited for this stream, but I just want to let you guys know that before we begin this, this podcast is not going to be your normal M b A talk show.
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We're going to talk about things.
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They will all relate to basketball.
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However, it will kind of be a little more than just This player is doing a good job this time is doing a bad job.
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So we'll talk a little more about aspects of the scope outside.
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The basic I'm being discussion as well is breaking down a little bit of film.
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And now let me introduce a Jonah Hong.
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What's going on? What's at my guy? How are you? I real quick.
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I hope.
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I hope everybody like the intro music give me some song requests in the comments, But, um, I didn't get to hear it.
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What song was it? Oh, I was playing down bad.
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I find, like, someone clean some clean J.
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Cole stuff that I found for playlist on Spotify.
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Because these events, we gotta gotta keep the legends anyways.
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So, uh, I guess.
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Let's just get right into it.
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So I stopped.
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I know you've gone through some injuries, obviously.
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And Clay Thompson is kind of in that similar ish state, I guess so.
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I kind of want to, like, learn, understand just what's the important Selvam not giving up, like, how do you kind of build up that mentality? So it's super hard, and I don't think a lot of people understand that being an athlete is like 80% 90% all mentality and all mental.
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Um, first of all, it's how much dedication you put to the game, right? Let's just not even talk about the negatives.
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But from the positives and a strong mentality Mamba mentality, right? The best one, Um, you have to be committed to your sport.
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You have to love it, no question about that, right? And then when things aren't going well for you, right, if you even if you're having a bad game, right.
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But unfortunately for him, he literally couldn't play anymore.
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He towards a CEO.
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Uh, I did that when I was in eighth grade. It sucks.
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It's one of the worst injuries.
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It's very common for basketball players, especially female basketball players and Clay.
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He did it in Game six of the Finals, which is just awful because he couldn't even come back.
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And he worked hard and his team definitely needed him.
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He was super valuable.
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And he's one of the best shooters in the league.
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And I think ever, you know, maybe top five shooters, possibly an MBA history.
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That might be a strong argument, but, um, you know, I read articles about him saying that a C L injury, you know what? Recoveries between 10 to 12 months.
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You know, I think it can be much sooner than that.
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And hopefully it is for him.
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So hopefully he can recover back healthy and super strong, and I think he will.
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But he has to stay, uh, grinded and committed to his beliefs and from his foundation when everything was going well for him, right? Your mentality should never change.
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Based on what is going on with you, based on how you're playing experiences, right, you have to keep going no matter what's going on.
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And even if you are the best like Michael Jordan, you can see through the last dance that he never gave up.
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He never stopped trying to be the best.
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And you know, Clay has that.
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Yes.
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So obviously people say, like, obviously we all know basketball is a physical game, but it's also a very I guess it's very important to be mentally stable.
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So into the video of the NBA's made about Clay Thompson and this whole recovery process, it said at the end, I think it's actually in the middle, said Train.
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The mind the body will follow.
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How important is it just for basketball on general, to be mentally strong? I mean, it's super crucial for all athletes.
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It's super crucial for everybody in life.
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You have to be mentally focused on driven.
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No matter what you're doing in life, no matter what you want to do in life, even if you don't have it yet, right, you have to see it for yourself.
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You have to see and believe that you're going to get somewhere, um, and that you're going to make it and achieve your goals and dreams.
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So, you know, just for everybody, and especially for athletes like it is always going to be a roller coaster.
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Even if you are, you know Steph Curry and Clay Thompson and you play for the Golden State Warriors, right? You can see that.
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You know, the previous season they were not as good as the other years on.
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That happens with programs and happens with athletes.
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So you have to stay driven.
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You have to say mentally focused, especially with athletes.
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I believe you know, specifically with basketball players that every basketball player wants to be the best basketball player.
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And that is so amazing because, you know, it's a mentality that I believe every professional basketball player may have.
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Um, even if they are the best, or even if they're, you know, not even playing anymore.
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They always have that mentality to be the best and be the best for their team.
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Eso you have toe, you know, definitely stay mentally focuses.
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Super crucial.
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Yeah, something outside is one that I thought was really almost gave me the chills, almost just watching that replay of his injury going to the locker room and then coming back in to shoot those two.
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Those two free throws by that was like unbelievable, though I mean, that's its like just like absolute.
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That's just like an unbelievable mount ality to have when it comes to everything, just not giving up.
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I mean, he obviously had a humongous injury and he's walking off the court and then comes back to those free throws and I saw status at.
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I'm pretty sure he's playing 122 playoff games, and he's only missed one.
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So he was is a very durable player.
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It was really the just really heartbreaking to kind of see that happen.
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Whoever he's kind of have that right mentality and just walk onto the court, shot his free throws and then I guessed it is painful process.
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It was almost like showing to launch.
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Yeah, I mean, in that moment, you know, we don't really know what happened or what's going on until we see the m r I.
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But for him to walk one on an a c l is crazy.
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I don't think people understand like you can't.
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You're a C l is the main ligament in your knee.
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If you don't have that, you're not stable.
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You can't walk when I tour it.
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Even though when I was in eighth grade, you know, it was an awful feeling.
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It worst you don't even feel your leg, you lose all your muscles.
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So when I saw him do that, I felt a personal connection.
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I know a ton of other athletes felt that same way, you know, Um, but he knocked.
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Did he make both of them? He didn't make both of them.
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Yes, so that's even better.
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You know, I wouldn't put it past him to not do something like that.
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I think Clay Thompson, you know, I would definitely put him on that list of N B A.
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Players who would do something spectacular like that because, you know, I in that moment I don't think he did it for himself, right? I think he did it for his team, and I think he did it for the fans and the entire basketball world.
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All the kids that are watching everybody like that.
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Israel, um, you know, because two points to him, it doesn't matter.
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Think about it.
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Doesn't matter that he makes he gets his free throw percentage from 30 in the game anyways, or something like that.
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It's more than you know.
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It's always more than just basketball.
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Even though he did that basketball action, right? It meant more to him to do that and it and it definitely influenced a ton of people.
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Yeah, also real quick. You did.
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You said just from the walk on it.
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But after he shot the free throw, he jobs back to I was like because my my dad and he tore his a c l playing basketball.
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I mean, like like I remember seeing him extend the council time.
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So when played tops and tears his a c l that I see him like jogging up like, ready to play defense.
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I don't even think you want that come out.
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Just just this whole mentality and borrow was unbelievable.
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And I I honestly think you might.
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I don't know if you consider underrated, but I feel like you should be talking about, like, a tad bit more.
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Yeah, something.
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Oh, I don't think he's underrated in the shooting basketball world, right? Yeah, I think you know he's not the strongest guy.
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He's not the tallest guy.
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He's not the fastest guy, right? And to a lot of people, especially on the outside, they look at that and that matters to them, you know, it's all about how it's all strong.
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How fast you are and that athleticism matters.
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But, you know, you have a shooting ability like clay and kind of rather see that in the sense, but that's just my opinion.
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But I think that he is going to definitely come back stronger than ever.
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And a lot of people might, you know, I'm not going to be surprised, because I know that he might have the best season ever in his career.
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I'm just saying it now.
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Um, but a lot of people might be shocked by that.
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So I'm just curious you did say that you think will come back stronger than ever and watching the little do***entary video they had about his recovery that I think the doctor or him or somebody said that he will be returning MAWR, I guess. Maybe physically inclined.
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Just like it was, like badly, faster, like a jump.
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I really house.
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How did that work after getting injured? Like how? How do you come back even better than you were before.
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Like like, how does that happen? Yeah, it's kind of ironic when you think about it, but especially with their a c.
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L.
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There's 34 ways of repairing it, right? you can either get a cadaver, which is, you know, a dead person's a CEO.
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That's what I had to get because I was so young that I was still growing up time.
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Ah, the other options are you get a piece of your hamstring.
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Um, you got a piece of your patella tenant, right? And so there's different ways.
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So I'm sure he other probably got hamstring or patella tendon, Maybe a cadaver.
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I don't know doesn't really matter, but I'm sure he's in good hands.
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The rehab itself is just, you know, the day you get surgery is day number one, and I don't think a lot of people understand that, especially athletes, because they're so mentally distraught and they're experiencing all this terrible pain in the moment.
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But day one is the day you leave that hospital or that doctor's office from the surgery and you wake up all drugged up, right? That is day one, and you're only going better getting better from there on out.
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And you have to count down that 6 to 8 months time period, right? And it goes by, you know, it feels long, but at the end of it, you're like, man that went by quick because my month three you're feeling strong, right? You're getting right.
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You're so anxious to get on a treadmill toe run toe walk right after you get an A C l surgery.
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You're on crutches for about a month, right? Without even putting your foot down on the ground.
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It's awful.
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It is not fun.
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Um, you know, and especially when you get these surgeries in the summer, you can't do anything.
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You know, you just feel like you have to start your life over.
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You know, especially for him.
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It's his career.
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If you can't play basketball, he's not gonna be able to so, you know, support his family and live his life.
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So, you know, it is super important, the rehab.
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But, you know, I got stronger and I got a lot faster.
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You trained 2 to 3 hours a day and, you know, you just get so committed in that in that time period in, um, he's just so driven that I know he's getting, you know, at least probably in my guests, 1000 1500 shots a day.
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Easily, easily He's a killer.
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Yeah, I do agree in just before I move on to our next topic.
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I remember his dad said that there's the three ages.
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They got 1/2 through life. I think it was.
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Stay healthy, stay humble and stay hungry.
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And I really think he's doing that because, as you said, but by month, three years, hungry to do, to do, I guess anything based on just to get better in a way.
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So um early and I was on to something, I guess I'm a little bit different.
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We're going toe or she will break down some film with you guys.
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I'll make sure that over a wide a doctor would do all that fun stuff.
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We're going to talk about your honest on Tate Akufo now.
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I guess I want to say this.
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We don't make this a big discussion, but in my opinion, I think he could maybe turn out to be one of the NBA's best players.
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Just because of I feel like he's bring something different to the game of basketball.
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But let's watch this film and I guess we could talk without a little bit after.
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So yeah, I mean, I would go ahead and play the film, but I would definitely say that Gee, honest, uh, might already be one of the past m v eight lawyers.
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You know, he needs to get some rings, even though.
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Yeah, I I agree.
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I I think you could definitely get there, though.
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So, at, anyways, let me Yeah, let's let's watch this film real quick.
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Just talking about you want me to do and I'll do it.
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Yeah.
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I mean, he is able uses pivot foot in the paint.
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Um, you know, he also use the shot fake.
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So, you know, you can see that even when he's the tallest guy out there, he's still not losing his basketball fundamentals.
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He's playing real basketball, but at the same time is using his athleticism, and he just doesn't really good job.
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Yeah, I have watched that beginning clip a few times, and it just it just kindly proves my point more than just how, like, unique of Like, I guess I'm body.
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He has just toe to be such a versatile player doing all things on the course.
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We see him just bullying is on his defender right there.
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So anyways, on to the next play now are This is a quick replay.
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Yes, can see on our Andrew Wiggins to But anyways, here's Ah, here comes and explain.
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I think that was it. Just a just a defensive highway.
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Anything you want ad and I'm just a good block.
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Just your position.
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I mean, he's not tall where he's like, if you're that's all, you should be able to do that.
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You know? Of course, now hearing is at a Houston.
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They have this another defensive chase down block, just pure heart.
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Like you don't see every n b a player sprinting down the court Sometimes, you know, um and and he's one of the best, and he doesn't have to do that right.
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But you goes hard every single play, right? If his players air dog helmet core, he sprints and he doesn't care, he's getting down there.
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He's making that defensive play, and he knows that.
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Most likely, if he makes that defensive play, he's going to get the ball back like he does now and then be able to turn it on on the offense event.
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Yeah, I agree.
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And ashes like important.
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All aspects of basketball is well like.
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All I remember is like everybody's looking my here.
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The coaches were screaming like Get down, get down and you could just see like you could have almost watch like the way he runs.
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And he was just trying so hard.
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It's just so important to always put in maximum effort.
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And I guess everything you do buy in basketball as well, you know, a sore very good point.
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You know, Im pushes the ball up attacks left side.
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Easy. Layup.
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Um, you know, you just understand for game of basketball, wherever the ball goes, the players should go.
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But you know, he's trying to be faster than the ball, and that means that he will always have the ball and control the ball.
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And you can obviously see that you have to incorporate both offense and defense of effort.
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Yeah, I agree.
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And also something you too.
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I'm pretty sure thinking he picked up his dribble like, around like this area, and I'm not gonna wind it back, but just like the way he's able to move his feet with those big those big euro steps and just driving to the rim, I I think that's unbelievable.
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Yeah.
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I mean, you know, he's in shape, right? he's got.
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He's already got the height.
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He's got the leg right on.
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You got to do a stay in shape and get stronger and faster.
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He probably is on a really good diet.
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Trains hard Work's already doesn't lift too much.
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As you can see, um, he's obviously basketball player physique.
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So you know he's not like training for the wrong thing, right? He's doing exactly what he's.
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He's doing it the right way.
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Yeah, I agree.
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So we'll just do a couple more place of these them move on to ah tar next topic of discussion.
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Just gonna be Oh, it's got that.
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That seems like a little bit basic.
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I don't know if you could see something that I can't, but I mean again, like, you got to give credit where it's due, and I'm going to repeat the same thing.
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He is just beating everybody down the court.
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He was giving more effort.
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He has more drive.
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And, you know, um you knows how old you get an easy third, right.
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You don't have toe shoot, you know, 18 shots out on the perimeter.
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To get 30 points on you gotta do is one floor.
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Get some lay ups, you know, run the room.
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Yeah.
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I don't really want to show these of these next place, but I'll do anyways this for the for the contents, saying this is against my favorite team, but it is very, very dynamic.
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I guess he had.
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I mean, a lot of times he's always driving left, and I think a lot of defenders.
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You know, if you rewind a bit, you can kind of see where the defenders guarding him and how he's guarding in your little Yes.
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So, you know, unfortunately, jihadis is a lot taller than that guard, but the guard has an advantage, Right? Is lower to the ground than Ji honest.
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And Jonathan has to get down to the ground to drive to the basket.
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So the guards should be, you know, right upon him.
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Forcing him, right? Definitely getting that ball out of the left side of his shop pocket.
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Definitely not falling for the job.
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Step to the right.
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Um and he does.
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You know that guys in the paint, but he ends up not even helping, so it doesn't really matter.
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And, uh, everybody else is just too late.
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And once the honest is in the paint.
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You should just back up.
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Yeah, I agree.
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So what does play this one? If you replay, this animal can vote on world and then the help wasn't there.
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So system, you know, it's just it's great basketball on John.
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This is an offensively but kind of a dumb defensive play.
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Uh, you know, I agree.
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So hope.
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Hope for you guys like like discussing the film a little bit.
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Let me know in the comments.
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We should keep that up.
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But anyways, I I did mention that Jonah's might be the go, but I will talk about another person that people might say It could be the grace of all time.
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Michael Jordan.
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Now we saw a couple of episodes ago in the do***entary How Steve Kerr talked about a scuffle.
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They had, um, with each other during practice.
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So I kind of want to know because a lot of players were kind of saying he was scary, a little bit intimidating, but whoever did kind of bring out the best in them, I guess, being kind of tough around them.
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What what do you think makes like a good teammate like Is that just like not how it should be anymore, was it just, like a different era, I guess, of respect towards people like Tuglaq is being a teammate.
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Yeah.
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So I don't kind of understand why.
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Um, people are even having a debate about this, right? First of all, I don't think MJ was even a bad teammate to begin with.
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I don't think when he said or did toc Kerr and his other teammates was crazy, right? I think Kobe definitely has some more intense stories.
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Um, and, you know, probably LeBron and things like that.
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But, you know, MJ is one of those guys you know, to be the best people don't understand.
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You know, we I think we just casually say that right end is the best.
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MJ is the best, right? But really be the best, right? That means you understand who you are as a person, and you understand the value of others around you.
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And you understand that you as an individual can never do it alone, right? That's that's anything in life.
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Um, did you do goodness and do good to others? Right.
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It'll circulate back to you, and m j knew that it wasn't just him out there, you know, those weren't just his rings.
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It was everybody's. It was everybody's time.
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And everybody had to be committed to him, you know, and vice versa.
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So, you know, Steve Hurt.
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Is this a phenomenal player? We can see his highlights.
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I don't think a lot of people watched him until this last dance do***entary, which is sad because it's like, you know, do all of these upper players are they only highlighted because of M. J.
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No, you know No.
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Now, because people see that seeker was actually, like, really good in a really good shooter.
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Um, so, you know, always give credit where it's due, But, um, I don't think MJ was ever a terrible teammate and he has to control everything out there, right? And until you are in that position and in that space, you won't understand it.
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But from from an outsider looking in and from, you know, me when I where I've been there, right, he's carrying the team.
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He's carrying the entire organization raised.
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He's scaring the entire MBA at that point, like he's just putting on a show for the world, in a sense, right and He just has to make sure, like, you know, he's obviously a winner.
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No doubt he's trying to get that right.
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He's being the best.
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But at the same time, you know, if he has to carry himself in the best of ways at all times, on and off the court, in everything that he does, I mean, you can.
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Obviously, there were cameras around him, 24 7 which was probably really annoying.
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But he always held his character and to be the best not only means from his skill in basketball level, but who he was as a person and how he influence others and how infectious that waas.
00:24:13
Yeah, and something that I feel like people who don't understand is that he wasn't doing it just to be like a mean part, like he wasn't just like calling like players like room names and, like I'm trying to, like, start like a fight during probably he wasn't doing it out of like an evil like Perspectively Hughes is doing.
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You just like to get the best.
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Everybody was kind of give them that like better mentality on the court.
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I don't think a lot of people unless you really like playing, like, understand, to get a basketball or just teamwork in generally how that works.
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However, we are hearing other people like you don't as has I mentioned something like if somebody called me that during practice, like I'm gonna start throwing hands.
00:24:52
So do do you think Michael Jordan and maybe should have toned it down a little bit? Or do you just kind of think he's all right? Cause in my opinion, I honestly think that what he did was was five years ago because he also said, When you're playing against teams like the Knicks or the Pistons there, they're going to be tough Thomas trying to get you guys ready for that.
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So I don't think that everything he did was almost genius.
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No, and, you know, I don't think he ever crossed the line.
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But I think and everybody obviously sees this, that his mentality was different in a lot of people, you know, it's it's only that 1% that has that.
00:25:30
So that's obviously Michael Jordan, right? And for him to get everybody else to see it and feel it the way you did right, because he knew he wasn't going toe do it by himself.
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So he has to be infectious.
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Everybody around him for them to either.
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You're either gonna He's one of those players.
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This is my territory, right? So he's already owning this space, and he deserves that, right? So now that he owns the space, he's he's letting everybody know this is how it's gonna happen.
00:26:01
This is what we have to dio.
00:26:03
And if you know you're not on this same boat, don't be here, right? Maybe that's why they weren't so scared about Robin not being there, right? Because they probably knew he was on the same page, right? They know he's a little crazy.
00:26:18
He wants that fun.
00:26:19
He wants to do his thing, whatever.
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But they knew at the end of the day he would show up and be there, you know, is that wrong? Today in today's world, you do that in college, right? You're getting in trouble for that.
00:26:29
You're not even allowed to play in the game.
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Um, but then you know, you get to the MBA.
00:26:36
It's different, but, you know, it's crazy.
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Yeah, I believe that That's like something that's like the reason why I guess I kind of like, has robbed a lot.
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This isn't really like all their, I guess, off the court.
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But he was is always there, committed like they didn't really need a word like he came back.
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But you already know that there that they're all going Teoh our guest, that he's going to be there for everybody like it doesn't matter if their own training after practice and he's out like wrestling or whatever on TV, because they already know that he's on the court.
00:27:09
He's putting in his knocked from effort.
00:27:11
I think that's probably that's just we saw with John Asante Taku Boat that was really important toe have with anything is always putting the maximum effort as long as you do that you don't really need.
00:27:20
The coaches want you to worry about you.
00:27:22
Yeah.
00:27:23
I mean, look, when people have these debates and arguments about who's the best, right? We always look at the numbers.
00:27:30
They always look at the rings, always looking statistics, right? You got to see who was out there that was so infectious, right? Who was out there that changed the game, right? If they were not out on that court we know everything would be different, right? And so you gotta look at those players now, right? Jonah's on the court, bro. It's infectious.
00:27:52
You know, he's not allowing his teammates to act up, you know, granite basketball.
00:27:58
You always make the stakes, right? We always have room for that.
00:28:01
But if he's armed, that campaign ship stage right, he is preparing his entire team.
00:28:07
Right? Michael Jordan was back working out when they lost that.
00:28:10
You? He was back working out that next day, right? And his tea was there, right? There's no question about it.
00:28:17
And they all knew that they had to be there.
00:28:20
It wasn't about what contract they signed.
00:28:22
It wasn't about what the coach said, right? It was about what m Jason.
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And you know, maybe MJ didn't even tell them he was going to go work out, right? I think he may be.
00:28:32
It may be told a couple, right, but MJ was gonna go on regardless by himself, but he may have not even said the people.
00:28:38
You gotta be here or else, right? Like he wasn't.
00:28:41
He wasn't crazy.
00:28:42
He wasn't making people get up out of their beds, right? They just did it because of him, right? It's almost like we would have to.
00:28:49
Same thing.
00:28:50
That's how infectious it is, right? But now, when people are really having conversations about Kobe Bryant, LeBron James MJJ honest Kawai, you know people back in the day who was infectious, you know, take out the numbers and the rings and you know, it's It's team at that point, right? What if MJ got to the championship, right? He was the best.
00:29:11
Like James Harden, right? James Harden, his group right? What if M.
00:29:15
J just lost every year with MJ, Sylvie, MJ or considered the best? Probably not right.
00:29:21
But, I mean, those were all valuable moments.
00:29:23
Obviously, we can see in the last dance, right? But it's cool when we get to go back inside.
00:29:31
Yeah, I agree.
00:29:32
So what? Wolf stick with the last dance on? This will probably be our final topic, but I'm sure you heard that he kind of gave the do***entary ago during LeBron's during his championship.
00:29:44
Pretty with the Cavs. I don't know.
00:29:46
I don't have you heard that that rumor, but I feel like I was a big love.
00:29:51
I mean, LeBron's giving my favorite player.
00:29:52
Regardless, he's he's my am J.
00:29:54
I mean, people like Furies, and they all had Coby.
00:29:56
I have LeBron James.
00:29:58
I looked up to him so much as a kid, so he will always be my Jordan and my favorite player.
00:30:03
However, watching the do***entary, I'm not, like, so convinced, like man like Jordan, Lee really is like the go six for six in the finals.
00:30:11
Just all the hard work like, I guess I know LeBron's doing this, but I just kind of feel like Jordan.
00:30:17
I kind of had that MAWR desire to when I feel like LeBron's more about getting his teammates on better in a way.
00:30:24
So you think that do you think that this do***entary kind of seal the deal on this? Ah, go discussion, You know, as a do***entary sampling and just knowing production.
00:30:36
I think they did it in the best way possible, right? They were releasing two episodes every Sunday.
00:30:41
They make people wait and were anticipated to watch it right And the way that they did it right? It wasn't just about MJ was it was so much more valuable.
00:30:52
So, yes, I think it dominated in that regards Yes.
00:30:57
Um, and no.
00:31:00
When a Kobe do***entary comes out, I think that's gonna be a jackal.
00:31:04
How many different perspectives and into that situation? Um, and LeBron James, You know, I think it's gonna be great as well, but maybe not, as you know, powerful.
00:31:19
I don't think it touched as many people, right? I don't think it will touches many people into similar ways that MJ did.
00:31:26
But this one reporter in the last dance said this amazing thing and it hit me.
00:31:32
She said that, You know, there was social media about then.
00:31:35
In MJ's time, this one of my exploded right following the Internet would have broke down.
00:31:41
And I believe that, right? Can you imagine if MJ was happening right now? Right.
00:31:47
The Internet in all social media, all the branding, right.
00:31:50
All the fashion, the lifestyle of culture, right? People don't understand how crazy that is, right? You know, people have Nike contracts.
00:31:58
They you know, they do other things outside.
00:32:01
You know, they have that one or two big name brand.
00:32:03
Michael Jordan was fortunate to create his own brain and kind of dominate in that industry.
00:32:08
And I think he still does to this day.
00:32:10
But, you know, if that was happening right now, Holy ****.
00:32:16
And so you think about right, We have I, Ricana.
00:32:21
We definitely have LeBron and Kobe in the same sign, right? And now at MJ into that right now with all social media.
00:32:28
Oh, no.
00:32:30
We'll put will add their two or three other best players.
00:32:33
And that's not here.
00:32:34
That they would choose, like impotent and Dominic will be, would have shocked And, you know, Fisher or something like that, or somebody else or Metta.
00:32:41
And you know, we'll just and LeBron will have lied.
00:32:44
And, uh, you know, Anthony Davis or something like that, Whatever.
00:32:48
And, you know, do we still think MJ is going to be NJ? I say yes.
00:32:57
So, you know, it's just funny how somebody so great happens in that time period and open it up for the rest of the world, right? It was perfect timing.
00:33:07
I think everything happens for a reason, right? I'm especially his story just coming out from such an old age in a sense offer.
00:33:14
Your place will not even really meeting that good.
00:33:16
And then he ends up like playing two sports professionally you know, dominating one sport and then coming back.
00:33:21
You know, he's just doing greatness.
00:33:23
It's literally greatest.
00:33:25
Yeah, it really is.
00:33:27
I agree.
00:33:28
When the reporter said that, that was kind of made me think I'm like like Like, he's like he's this, like something now I just feel like it was almost Michael Jordan.
00:33:37
I kind of feel like watching every games.
00:33:39
It's kind of like Michael Jordan's here.
00:33:40
I like the NBA's.
00:33:41
It's all like they're like he comes back out of playing baseball with um with the White Sox, then scores like 50 points is like like like like how that's is not like possible and I just can't I just can't imagine that And he's there.
00:33:56
So I'm like when you talk trash like, I feel like he could just like like, stand by it like he could say something and I used it.
00:34:03
I mean, yeah, is Michael Jordan.
00:34:04
He's going to crush me like I has got to do with it.
00:34:07
It's insane.
00:34:08
It's just like when you're in athlete and when you play at a higher level and you're just watching that do***entary, right? Even I I can feel it like when I'm that 56 year old kid, right? I even go back to that time right before I had any of this.
00:34:26
That do***entary is so strong.
00:34:30
And, um, you know, it's so inspirational to just know and feel the type of environment that he played in almost every single night.
00:34:39
I mean oh, my gosh.
00:34:42
Hearing that crowd playing that type of environment, Yeah, it was probably stressful, but it was probably also the best feeling every time.
00:34:51
And he knows that, right? And people are always, like, wire his eyes like that.
00:34:55
You know, once he look all crazy or something, I don't even know.
00:34:59
I don't even really pay attention to it.
00:35:00
But, um, it is just, you know, I I still live for that.
00:35:06
Even though, you know, I never believe that I'm gonna play in this big environment, right? Because I'm not going to play anymore really like that.
00:35:12
But I know that one day went to kind of influence that many people are one a lot of people to kind of cheer me on, and I want to be able to do the same thing, and, you know, it's just great to kind of be in that environment and see what he did every day.
00:35:28
Yeah. So I'm just curious.
00:35:29
Before we conclude this show, I want to know your opinion.
00:35:31
Do you think that I players following Michael Jordan? Where did you consider Kobe? The closest version to Jordan? Um e s fault during filed.
00:35:41
Because my pain, I believe that every the pick a player that would that's hasn't, like similar, like, winning mentality.
00:35:47
Just the leadership, like the wriggling all that I feel like Kobe is just as close to Michael Jordan is we can get I don't know if you would agree on that statement.
00:35:59
I definitely would.
00:36:01
Um you know, I think they're kind of very similar and how they play.
00:36:09
Uh, you know, people are gonna be like, No, Kobe did this move empty? Did this move? That's not what I'm saying.
00:36:15
You know, body type, wise weight.
00:36:17
Waas I waas you know, they were very, very similar.
00:36:21
The error was kind of saying, you know, Kobe obviously looked at M J and followed MJ's, like, every step.
00:36:27
So, yes, I think he was the next breed.
00:36:30
You know, that next generation guy, um, that we could probably relate the most MJ and you know, then LeBron comes in and kind of has a different style.
00:36:43
So, like I said before, and like I said previously, I don't think there's one style over another, right? I don't think one knocks and other, um, but one of the day I do believe in basketball talent, and I believe in basketball skill.
00:36:58
And, you know, I, you know, I take away strength that that want to take away height and of athletic ability, right? It's kind of all about how consistent you are with the basketball.
00:37:12
And, you know, like I said, how infectious that is, toe others.
00:37:16
And if you can combine the two right physically and mentally, you will be the best, and that's how it works.
00:37:24
So you know, it's so unfortunate to not see Kobe here this day, but I would like to know more about who MJ was inspired by, because there's always going to be an inspiration for somebody I believe, Um and so you know, I don't think MJ touched on that that much.
00:37:45
I don't know.
00:37:47
Maybe he could be his dad, I guess.
00:37:48
Like at least baseball wise, I was probably one of us for you know, that everybody's like, not everybody, right? But I'm saying you know somebody who wasn't there were you never met, you know, almost like a, um, invisible drink or invisible person that you saw on TV.
00:38:07
You know, at the time you probably don't see them on TV, But it was just somebody that he knew wanted to like.
00:38:13
Um, so, yeah, you know, definitely is Dad.
00:38:16
And that's that's awesome.
00:38:18
Yeah.
00:38:19
Anyways, we'll wrap it up real quick.
00:38:21
Um, one of my viewer's says Kobe even sounded like m j.
00:38:26
I kind of from that was a little bit funny, but anyways, well, law, yeah, Kobe just made it more intense.
00:38:31
I mean, like, yeah, you know, And people will probably argue that Kobe was crazy and and, you know, I've had people personally tell me stories about him where he's taking people out of his workout line because they were going to slow in a drill.
00:38:45
And he's just the type of guy that, like you, literally said, I don't hang around lazy people.
00:38:50
I don't associate myself lazy, but let me just I was wondering up real quick, like that's It's not like crazy.
00:38:56
That's just being like a good team like wall in your whole team.
00:39:00
Just to be the best one of the Just make that clear, like like that shouldn't be like if you call that crazy, then you just don't like understand sports.
00:39:08
That's kind of that's kind of how I would think of that.
00:39:12
Yeah.
00:39:13
I mean, I believe that, like both MJ and Kobe, Kobe were both of those types of players that knew they wanted to win every single game, every single championship and do something great.
00:39:23
And they both are the types of players to also want to leave the MBA being the best and making sure that they remain the best for a long period of time because they believe they are the best, right.
00:39:37
And you know, I say this to a lot of people.
00:39:40
We always see, you know, MJ and Kobe talking do***entaries together videos and things like that where they're saying, you know, Oh, no, he's the best.
00:39:47
He's the best, right? That's just production, right? That's just in front of the cameras there.
00:39:53
Probably.
00:39:54
They were probably the best of friends, right, all that stuff, but they each believe that they were single handedly That's better than the other one, you know? And we could see that the mentality was like that.
00:40:06
Kobe just is more of an extra when I can't tip it.
00:40:12
Yeah, I agree.
00:40:13
So, anyways, that will That will wrap up the podcast.
00:40:16
I hope you guys kind of like this, uh, this stylish show.
00:40:19
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00:40:52
I hope you guys have a great rest of your week.
00:40:56
Thanks.
00:40:57
And I said, Yeah, thank you guys again outside the huddle.
00:41:00
We called it that today.
00:41:01
Um, you know, we talked a lot about N B A modern issues and topics.
00:41:05
They up to date with everything and, you know, thank you, Isaac, once again for these great questions in great film and content.
00:41:12
Um, I hope you guys enjoyed it, and we'll see you next time.
00:41:16
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