What is going on? Everybody? My name is Isaac Fleischer.
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Ah, I have the honor to be joined here with the former Villanova basketball player.
And now Ah, Internet influencer Adriana home.
What's going on? What's that? I say, You know what you been up to during this out? This quarantine.
I I know it's kind of difficult to play in a lot of basketball games.
What have you been doing to keep herself active? Honestly, I'm still playing basketball from just playing outside.
Um, I'm still doing some basketball training with girls outside, and, uh, kind of creating my own workouts in the house.
Just doing new things that I've never done before using new equipment.
Um, but it's hard.
I try not to stay on social media a lot.
I try and do things like this where we can talk and great conversation.
Um, you know, we have SportsCastr, which is such a great platform.
And, uh, yeah, man, just trying not to go crazy.
I need this stuff to end.
Yeah, I understand.
So you just talk about it.
Just a quick little light.
Topics drew quick.
Uh, maybe you could just, like, introduce yourself a little bit.
What do you dio? What? Your favorite rappers shoes? Just whatever.
Just left the people now with a little more about you.
Just start with what's, um What's up, you guys? I'm a Jonah Horon.
I went Villanova University.
I graduated last year.
I'm from Wilmington, Delaware.
Um, I don't know if you guys ever heard of it, but it exists.
And let's see, my favorite rapper is Nicki Minaj.
Um, my favorite basketball player, as you can see, is Kobe Bryant.
Huge Lakers fan.
I got some actually meet him before, so that was pretty cool.
Um, RMP Kobe, But yeah, man.
Six year span as well out of because Phillies right here.
And right now I'm on Instagram and Adriana Han.
I'm a sports advocate.
I have my own show called Outside the huddle.
It's a show sent around sports life's own culture.
So far I've done interviews with Metta World Peace Ben Baller Gary Be Jalil beats.
So you know, I not only interview athletes, but an interview everybody that's involved in some way in the sports industry.
So you don't just have to be this professional basketball player rnb a star WNBA star.
You know, you can come talk to me.
I've never been a professional athlete.
Three Nate knee injuries during my career, so it was No, I faced a lot of obstacles.
Unfortunately, it ended my career.
But, um, you know, I still think I have a lot of skill left.
Then lose the shooting skill and, uh, you know, just trying toe change the sports industry.
So, uh, you just mentioned that you got you got quite the outside shot.
Can you just give us, like, a comparison of your game compared toa current w n b a r N b A player? Sure.
Even though I don't like actively competitive and play anymore When I was playing, I would definitely say Ah, from a female perspective.
I was more of a Diana Taurasi style.
Ah, had a mid range definitely uh, shot deep, long threes.
I drove to the basket some, but I never finish around the rim a lot.
Um, just because, you know, towards the end of my career was kind of hard for me to really stop and go, you know, just jump in the air and stuff.
It got really challenging.
So I had to start shooting outside really far away.
So I definitely say, Have some Steph Curry and me a little bit.
Uh, And, um, you know, my favorite players, Kobe Bryant.
So I would say from a you know, just Chris court awareness and perspective, and i q of the game, I would say I see it from his level in his mentality.
Um so, like Diana Taurasi, Kobe Bryant? Yeah, Yeah, those are, Ah, some pretty good players toe compare yourself to.
So, uh, Anyways, obviously you said like you started, I guess work on your outside shock and describe a little more about that process because you hold the record and Big East for three pointers made, right? Yes, sir.
So, um, that's definitely extremely impressive, Vanya.
Ways to use describe us how that process was like, I guess, working on your shot, because I actually I just developed my shot.
Probably last year.
I was shooting with, like, two hands like this every day.
So now So I'm curious what that process was like forming your shot.
I would say it was a long one, and I have a very funny story.
I actually used to never shoot the basketball was one of those timid players that was very passive.
I never want I was scared to challenge against my competitors.
I wanted to give it to somebody else.
I'd rather have them do it.
And my coach actually took me out of the game and was like, I'm just not gonna play you anymore if you don't shoot.
Um, because they would be I would be that wide open.
And I still didn't shoot someone, affect the flow of the game and actually affect my team.
And it got to the point where I had no choice but to shoot if I wanted to play.
So you know, Then I started having more confidence in myself.
You practice shooting every day, right? Nobody can just go out there and start making shots or making crazy threes like Steph Curry right.
He practices every day.
He gets stronger.
Um, he's constantly shooting with a medicine ball or shooting in a chair.
Um, he's making 30 threes in a row constantly, right? He didn't just go in the gym and say, All right, I have to make 30 three's right? You showed it out with making two in a row, making two free throws in a row, making five in a row, making five in a row that are all swishes, right? None that touched the rim when I was training and I was working out of a drill that I did.
I couldn't move on until I made five swishes in a row, right? And if one hit the rim, even though it went in, it didn't count.
When I had to start over, I would be in a drill for 30 to 45 minutes.
But my level of intensity never changed.
Um, and so you know, you have to have a shooter's mentality constantly.
When you're missing in a game, you have to keep shooting, can't get frustrated.
You can't blame other people.
You can't blame the bull.
I've heard people blame the shoes that they're wearing or you knows, their hair was in their way.
Something like that, right? Shooters never complain, right? They take accountability for every shot, and they're going to Ben fix it and get better.
Yeah, of course.
So I'm sticking to the topic of your game.
You just tell us.
I guess some of the highlights of like, how you play in some of our some of your games flaws as well.
So, um, I was pretty much face guard when I played, uh, the entire court.
So, you know, right, if I'm crossing half court on offense, I could shoot it from anywhere.
That was my game.
Um, and it takes you have to take a lot of risk when near that type of player.
You know, and I I'm not gonna lie and say that I wasn't nervous even playing all the way up to my last year of college sometimes when I took the shots.
But, you know, there's a quote that says if you don't take the shots right, you'll never have that opportunity.
And I had to take a risk.
But I believed in myself, and I would pull up from **** near the n B A mine or even ****her than the N B A three point line.
Um, you know, constantly, people eventually had to start guarding me out there.
Was I effective when I drove to the basket? But now people knew that I was very successful at shooting three players outside, so they had to guard me all the way out there.
So then once you bring a defender out now I have more room to attack and drive.
And, um, on my players in the corner, shoot three or drive hit, opposed.
When the host help comes, you know, you have to have all of those skills like G Honest Katie.
You know, Look, you can't You have to guard them for everything they shoot, they can drive.
They are great passers right there. Court awareness.
You know, you have to guard them at all times.
So that's my game.
I would say You got to guard me at all times matter.
One doing that Sounds pretty.
Uh, you know, I feel like it's a trouble with the law.
I've only had a couple of basketball players on here, but I feel like confidence is definitely a big key and, uh, your and everyone's game.
So I'm moving on.
I read an article on you, so I'm I might have spelled her name wrong, but I saw you have, ah, relationship with Is it Elena Della Donne? Or don't read However you pronounce your name, please explain your relationship with her.
And how about how it all started? Yeah.
Um, so her name is pronounced Elena delle Donne.
She's also for a moment in Delaware, so she is about eight years older than me.
But we ended up going to the same high school.
So long story short.
When I was about 4th 5th grade, I went to the Ursuline summer camp and she was in high school, like as a counselor working the camp.
And I was really good when I was younger, much more advanced than all the other kids around my age.
And she came up to me and was like, I want to take you to a WNBA game.
And, you know, I go home to my parents that day and I said, You know, Elena wants to take me to a WNBA game.
They don't even believe me, they're like, yeah, yeah, you know, whatever.
When the next day, Elena comes up to them, tells them the entire plan way ended up taking a limo down to Washington D. C.
And we watched the Washington missed explain the Phoenix Mercury.
And at the time, Diana Sarosi is on the Phoenix Mercury.
But, um, and she's obviously one of my favorite players.
So I got the chance to meet all the players from both teams.
It was actually funny when we first got to the game.
Elena just walks right down to the court, and while they're warming up and you know, they're like, Hey, Elena, what's going on? Right? He has a first name basis already to those WNBA players, and she's still in high school.
Um, it was just crazy.
I don't think a lot of people understood how strong and valuable she was.
And females email, you know, women's basketball.
And, you know, at a young age there's a lot to handle it and a lot that comes with that and, you know, it's more than just her talent.
Um, you know, she was doing it all, and so I was able to see that at a very young age.
And I always compared myself to her.
You know, I never played with her, but as a player was like, You know, one day I'm gonna play with her in the W B.
Obviously that never happened, but it doesn't shut down any other power influence that I believe I can put out there in the future.
Yeah, that sounds That sounds like an amazing experience.
Obviously, being a young kid, that just sounds like something that was a life changing, obviously.
So can you tell us like the reason are not the reason? I guess Like the moment you realize you could probably make it like in the basketball slash sports like world, I would say seventh grade 6/7 grade.
Um and that was because when I was younger, right, I would watch Kobe in N b a w N b A players and I would compare myself to them, not even compare like, you know, I'm better or more so I want to be them.
I want to be that person.
I want to be on TV and have that jersey on me and have all these fans and you know not only just the attention, but the responsibility.
And, you know, it's just a za kid.
You admire that.
And so I was always comparing myself to the best.
You know, it wasn't like I was comparing myself to the girl next door or, you know, I don't have an older sister, but just other people around me.
I was always comparing myself to the best to Kobe Bryant, to Diana Theron.
See to Elena Della Donne, and I think that's set standards for me in a high age.
I mean set high standards for me at a young age, and, uh, you know, when you do that, you get you prepare yourself more.
I didn't take no for an answer.
I played basketball every day.
I played against boys.
When I was in 1/4 in fourth grade, I was on all of Oystein was the only girl in the league.
My dad put me in there.
Yes, you know, parents do have an effect on a kid's journey with sports and opportunities and things like that.
But you can make something, um, you know, do more.
Don't give up and challenge yourself.
You know, you got to do all those things.
So, um, you said kind of like how you compared yourself Taw, I guess.
Like legends, up games and basketball.
And that's kind of how you thought like you had a chance on making it.
But just like I'm sure a lot of people washing this could be very talented basketball players.
I feel like a lot of kids these days, they don't really understand just what it takes.
Like all like the effort, the waking up early, the late nights going from work out to school, toe another work out the team practice just described.
Kind of like what that process is like, like day by day, working towards a certain goal and how hard it is to make it.
It is every second of the day, right? And it's just your mentality on everything.
I could give somebody Whoever's watching this, right? A breakdown of exactly the workouts and schedule they should have, right? You wake up, you should knock out Max push ups, right? Your number if you commit to something every day, right? It only takes 14 days to create a habit right? In a schedule, it takes 14 days. Two weeks.
You start doing something every day, your body will naturally start to do it and you won't see it is troublesome anymore.
So, you know, if you can only knock out 20 push ups in a row for the first week, you might hit 40 the second week 50 and then in a month you're at 100 right? Just do the math.
You just see yourself getting better.
Just in one thing I'm on Lee talking about waking up in doing push ups, right? So now that you have the motivation and you see yourself getting better and you committed to that, you're gonna apply that concept and everything that you dio and that's what people look for right when I associate myself with people, if I see you know, somebody talk or put on a scene or just act one way and is not consistent in their everyday lives or every activity that they do or everybody that they associate with and they're fake their fraud, they're not riel, right? It's fake work.
You're just doing it in that moment just to gain something that's not really who you are, right.
You wouldn't die for this.
I gave everything to the basketball.
I gave everything for that right? Had knee surgeries.
Tore my A C l twice, um, you know, had a big defect in my knee for another, you know of any injuries.
So there were times where I literally started from zero.
I started from 03 times.
I had to teach myself how to walk the injuries.
Right? I was out for six months each surgery, and, uh, you know, I didn't give up on myself.
I wanted to get back to the player that I was before those injuries.
And, uh, you know, you got to commit to that.
You gotta be willing to give it your all, but, you know, it starts with the little things.
Uh, you know, I didn't, you know, go over my friend's house and have sleepover store in the weekend, you know, because basketball, you know, I had to wake up and go to practice.
I haven't wake up and go outside and get my workouts.
And I couldn't be hanging around friends, you know, going to the beach for weeks on end.
For an entire summer.
It was dusk. I was competing.
I'm so could we just talk about? Because I also know a lot of players think like, if you're just like a gifted back school player, if you're like, born like the next Michael Jordan, they think that all this like be okay, I could mess around with my whole life, maybe maybe train every day.
That's pretty much it, but described the importance of academics and making it with, um, with basketball, because I know a lot of the top players all have very, very high GPS that it's not just all skill, but it's also the grades as well.
Can you describe how important that is as well? It's super important.
Um, you know, one thing I would say is you don't there is never a certain weight or height to or color or anything to play basketball and be good at it.
Um, you know? So I would just say that I was 56 I was always the shortest person on the team, and I was always limited because I had three knee surgeries.
Um, and you know, I was still killing it, but going back to the academics, right? You can't wait.
You know, until college, you can't wait until high school and you can't wait until middle school, right? You gotta be that kid.
You know, in this summer, when I was in 3rd 4th grade, when you take your workbooks home from school, right in the summer and you have all your empty books and you know, the textbook isn't filled out, you know, there's empty assignments.
So I was that kid that, like, read the chapters in the book and did the assignment and then quiz myself and then invited my friends over, and I was a teacher.
And, you know, my mind set was always the same.
And now I can see that now that I'm a basketball training right? I just want to give back on implements and teach the right way and give kids the same opportunities that I had.
But, you know, if people I can say this is many times to somebody right, but it's only gonna be that 1% that's gonna actually take it in and really understand it and do something about it.
And that 1% is who on associate with right, whether that's social media influencers N B a basketball players w N b A players all other times of athletes, people that work in the media that are in sports industry, right.
Eventually, you realize that things do come to light and there is a reason for everything.
There is a reason why I did those workbooks activities when I was in second grade and 3rd 4th grade just because I wanted to learn.
And I was like, I don't want to throw these notebooks away like I want to, you know, get good at this.
And that translated into basketball, right? Yeah, of course.
So now we're gonna move on to your recruiting process a little more So just like what was that? Like being a top or crew? And, ah, how are difficult? Was was it how difficult off a decision wasn't picking on Villanova Isar school? So I would say that, um, well, just for the recruiting process.
So I got my first college offer when I was in eighth grade.
It was at the University of Delaware, and, you know, for those who are past eighth grade or in eighth grade right now and don't have a scholarship, right, it's nothing to compare I know people who got a scholarship.
I know people who started playing basketball so about sop****re year in high school, for the first time ever.
I got a scholarship senior year of high school, so anything is possible.
But, you know, I was highly heavily recruited.
And, um, I got to a point where I didn't want to do the process anymore.
I mean, coaches were calling my phone non stop.
It was just really hectic.
And, um, I look back and I regret that because at the end of the day, I defeated myself, right? I said, Hey, you know, I'm just gonna pick a school that's close to home that has a good conference.
And, you know, I'm gonna be the star there.
What not? And I'd rather play in a mid major school where I will be, you know, bigger player.
Instead of maybe going Teoh North Carolina, Duke A Stanford.
Not that I'm saying I wouldn't play right.
I know I would play, But I maybe not have been the one go to guy, which, you know, now that I look at it is okay because I may have played on a bigger stage and may have been had more exposure to the W B A.
So that's like the business side of sports that you can we can discuss and talk about one day that a lot of people don't understand unless you're like me where you are involved in recruiting.
But I, um you know, I had a list.
I would go visit these schools, I call them, You know, I had to be able to communicate with coaches.
I wasn't gonna be able to be that person on the phone that was saying like like like, you know, are not telling them what I wanted in a school, right? If a coach asked me, What are you looking for in a school? And I didn't have the answer.
It would be like, Why am I even recruited you? Right? So it's more than just a basketball skill.
You have to be involved.
I had to know who who played at those schools.
There were, you know, their record that previous year.
Just because you know what? What other teams air in their conference? What academic programs they have.
You know, if I do, I want to be you know, unfortunately, I can relate to this.
I wanted to be a broadcaster.
You know, Sports reporter, even production film.
Villanova has a very, very, very small program for production.
And I didn't know I wasn't.
And I didn't research enough, right? I didn't invest my time into telling myself what I wanted to know more about life and what I want to do beyond basketball.
So when I got to college, I wasn't repair than last minute.
I like film, right? Unfortunately, Villanova had a very small program, and now you know, I didn't go to the Syracuse of Media and Communications or the UCL, a film production school.
Right? Who knows? Maybe if I would have known that when I was being recruited by those schools, which I waas right, maybe I would have made a different decision.
So I need to do your research and investor time if you are being recruited.
Yeah, I understand that.
That that definitely is very important.
So what was it kind of like just basketball wise jumping from high school competition.
Teoh, Um I guess Power five conference competition.
That what was just like, how big of a jump was it for you? Um, I would say It's a big jump for every athlete, but I also, like I said, prepared myself.
Um, you know, I wasn't comfortable just winning my high school games.
I wasn't comfortable that my team was undefeated in Delaware, right or comfortable that I had three time get out and play in the years you have to like, I was going down to D.
C two hours away from me because that was where the best trainer Waas and I knew him.
And, you know, I was training with pros, training the Carl her hands Borough and Malcolm Brockton.
And, you know, all these guys want to building over and such.
So not only I'm always comparing, right.
I'm always looking looking at who was ahead of me, right? Even though I'm never gonna be in the n b A.
I'm never gonna be as good as those guys.
I'm like, I need to be on their level.
I need to be on their mentality and their work ethic and their drive, and they're scheduled their commitment because they're doing it right, Right? And there where they are, I'm doing it wrong.
Even though I'm not trying to go to the N B a right.
Just my mentality in life.
It's my mentality and everything.
Um, you know, So so, yeah, you know, it was It was It was.
And then when I got to college, I was a freshman point guard, right? And there was a senior point guard there, so she was there for four years.
She made the USA team, Um, you know, And unfortunately, she told her a c l And at the end of the season.
But I came in, you know, working really well with her.
So even where there was a threat in my head, I'm like, that's not gonna limit my playing time or my value on this team at all.
You know? I'm gonna earn my applying time in some other way, and I'm gonna prove it to my coaches.
I'm not just gonna complain about it or see it for myself, You know, I'm gonna prove it to them and make it up.
Could you just let us know? Um, I guess what you're doing currently and what your goals are for the future basketball wise and outside of basketball.
So right now, um, I am I have my own basketball training business called Han Hoops.
So I currently trained girls and voice s so I'm technically trying to open up just more opportunities for, you know, young basketball players, young athletes.
And, you know, I think that there should be more opportunities for the W N B A, um, and you know, just more opportunities for those athletes who don't go the professional route or can't ends.
Um, like we talked about before.
I'm doing my show called Outside the Huddle.
It's a show Senator on sports, lifestyle and culture.
Um, not only am I providing a bigger platform for athletes to have, you know, their opinions and perspectives matter about non sports issues, but inviting non athletes to talk about sports issues and open up the platform for those that air outside the huddle.
Right? I don't wear jersey anymore right before we're not in the Los Angeles Lakers huddle.
When that you know the Warriors huddle.
We're not in those, you know.
We don't know the Boston Celtics, uh, president in the business, we don't know what's going on, right? But as fans and critics of sports, and you know, we're just we watch and we care.
You know, our value in our opinion matters and social justice issues and and cultural issues.
You know, I think a lot of them can be centered around sports and vice versa.
So a lot of different people who aren't just athletes need to talk about those issues.
Yeah, and, uh, I just want to influence the game and be in the media and use social media and digital media and build a platform in space for myself.
So yeah, I understand.
Obviously, social media is a big weight.
Ah, get your name and brand out there.
But anyways, you did say that your ah, coach slash trainer and I was wondering if you'd be interested in maybe showing some of some of those skills.
If you want to break down my favorite players film, we could just do a couple of plays if you want to.
Um, just kind of dissect affected a little bit.
I think it might be cool for the viewers to kind of see just what that basketball mindset like how it works. Word.
So you want me to give you a player or a Utah? If you if you want to give me a player.
If not if not, I already got one pulled up.
If you want to do that.
Oh, you go ahead. All right. On to stop.
Let me to share this screen real quick.
Um, all right, so this is Ah, and lift.
She's She's by far my favorite women's players.
Who might you be? One of my favorite basketball players? I haven't watched these, though, but let's just see, hopefully this is ah gonna be easy to break down.
So just let me know what you want me to dio.
I'll press play.
I want to pause that right now you are.
So I would say, going back to that play.
Yeah, I could kind of talk to it.
You can play it So she's attacking and she goes back to the middle.
You always want to drive and bring that ball to the middle.
You can pause it in order to bring the ball to the middle, right? You draw the defenders now they can't stay in a certain position.
And so, by her attacking middle she beat those players on the court through the defender boom.
Her post ran to the right spot, and it was perfect.
Play two versus one.
It wasn't a two versus one originally, right, But Hayley was able to create that.
So that's the extra effort that she put in from a point guard.
You want you want to do what you want to do? One more sure.
Great plan from the back.
Just a little fancy to answer it.
All right, here's this form.
Well, screen you up so we can replay.
Yeah, it's simple.
So, um, hole up.
He's obviously a lefty, so it's a great place for her set up wise.
Um, technically, I would probably say that that was a moving screen by her player.
But, you know, I'm not a referee, but great screen ands.
We can see that the defender Haley's defender went under the screen.
So perfect opportunity for a three point play.
Yeah, well, I guess you definitely have.
Ah, quite the talent.
So before we wrap this up, I I don't understand.
You gotta go in my bio.
It does say, aspiring basketball, coach, that that's probably my main goal.
Like my dream career is to be a basketball coach.
Can you maybe give some, Ah, some advice, kind of how to gain that.
That basketball knowledge slash mindset, maybe for anybody else in here that has a similar interest that I have just like any, I guess, coaching advice and how to kind of getting that basketball knowledge.
So I would say, directed to all my current basketball players.
If you literally play last well, right from when you're a player, you just have to listen to the coach or listening to whoever's teaching you.
They want your best interest, right? And even though you're emotionally frustrated in that moment, or things aren't working out for you, or if you're confused just so much easier to just pause all your emotions, bring yourself together and just listen to what that person is saying and showing you right and, um and, uh, you know, Listen, watch.
Watch your own film, teach yourself and then watch film from previous players, right? Best.
You have to do more than just the average player, right? I always knew that there was somebody out there doing and putting in more work than me, even if there wasn't right there There, there was right, cause we have Sabrina and ask me where we gonna go.
Balala, right? All these people who are my age, the **** sure we're putting in the same work, right? And I competed against these players when I was younger.
So was also around them.
And I knew before they were on this big stage and, you know, always comparing myself to somebody doing it more.
So I had to give more always, no matter what I was doing.
Um, yeah, I'm just wondering, just a quick question.
Where did he ever play in the McDonald's All American game or Jordan Classic or any of those? I did not.
Um, I think that was because I committed to Villanova University, and that's nothing to knock my school down.
But I am talking about the other side, and I am saying that sports is political ends.
Um, you know, because you go to a big time school, right, are committed to a big time school that has a big football program and big money ends, you know, 50,000 kids at their school, right? It's there's a lot of things that go into it.
Um, trust me I have great exposure.
I was a great player.
That's very justified.
And I care about that because those who are, um, you know, heavily involved and have created high status in the sports world know who I am and know the credibility that I deserved.
And usually when people, you know, right numbers on Google and star players, you know, five star players and all that number rating, you know, six in the class, second in the class.
You know, I didn't care about that stuff because that was some little person behind the computer justifying my talents based on a number.
And, you know, that will never be just fine that way.
And I promise you, I competed against all of those girls who are on that list that were ahead of me.
And not only did I know that I was better and would kill them one on one, but my team actually beat them.
Or, you know, I also got recruited to those schools and have the same scholarships.
I just didn't publicly commit to the schools, you know? And even though I didn't commit to those schools, I still have a great relationship with the schools.
So maybe, you know, one day I can coach at North Carolina R NC State, which is a great school that I wanted to go toe.
I loved NC state.
So after creating relationship great relationship, no matter what you're doing or even if you don't think there's value out of it, right, respect somebody's time, respect somebody's name, you know, there's there's a reason for everything and you have to see that It's so so Was it really, really too difficult dealing with that rejection? Or was it just kind of You kind of have that confidence? I guess I get, like being like, not being able to go to the No.
Yes, As a senior in high school, I was like, Oh, man, I'm you know, I was upset that I didn't get me guns on American.
Now that I'm grown up and mature and understand, I'm like, I don't care, because guess what? It doesn't even limit me to this day, and I know people and compare myself right? We always compare.
You have to I compare myself to those people that McDonald's all Americans who were McDonald's all Americans in my class, right? But the collegiate career was nothing where it just went down the drain or it sunk.
Or unfortunately, they had really bad injuries and couldn't player.
You know, it just didn't work out for them.
They transferred the three schools like my colluded career was so much more advanced and successful and people that had McDonald's all Americans.
So why do I even care about that? I don't Yeah, you were saying, You know, that's how you have to look at it.
I know a couple off a couple of Ah, I guess I wouldn't say highly recruited players bought like we'll say, top 100 players.
I see him post on Snapchat all the time.
Like like who cares about these rankings like whatever.
So it's obviously a good mentality to have.
But now you did mention that Kobe Bryant is one of my favorite basketball players.
Rest in peace to Kobe.
Um, can you talk a little more about his impact on the women's game? Great question.
I think Kobe would have had ah, second different life.
I call it that is so separate from the basketball player and legendary status that he created, and trust me he gay such a huge global impact to the world in terms of being a basketball player.
But I think he would have created an even more global impact for the women's game in terms of what he was just starting out in doing.
And like I said, he would have had a second life **** near doing that.
And you know, I don't think it's because he had all girls.
And that's, you know, people would just say that he wasn kind of forced to go into the woman's game and get back to his daughter.
But I think you would have done that regardless.
Um and oh, just you know, my story and meeting him like he literally knew who I was when I met him and he knew where I went to school.
He knew I had injuries, so I knew that he was heavily invested.
You know, Villanova Woman's fastball does not play on TV like that.
So he went out of his way to go on villain O R.
Ah, you know, Big East network, you know, and probably bought this discussion about the game like you.
He cared, And people are gonna say like you know? Oh, I don't watch women's basketball players.
I don't watch that school, you know, they suck, you know, it's not true at all.
You could say whatever you want because Kobe Bryant went out of his way to see me play or want to know more about me or even remember that.
I remembered my face remembered.
Somehow I walked into a room and with a group, right, five or six people in The first thing he's done was Villanova, right? So you know, it was just insane how it happened.
And that's why you know, my entire room is literally Lakers from growing up as a kid.
He didn't even know I didn't get to talk to him about that, right? But it didn't matter because a screen and I'm like, Oh, man, I wish I hope I can see Kobe play in person.
I hope I can see play can be played.
The Lakers stadium never did that.
Any retired and you know I'm upset.
Oh, I hope I can meet Kobe one day, You know, just in general, you know, I'm thinking I have to be successful in the media sports industry for Kobe didn't ever know my name or hear me and then come to find out this entire time when I'm busting my ass on the court and wanting to be the best.
He's watching, and I didn't know it.
So when you are in a gym by yourself, what are you gonna dio when no one's watching or when you think no one's watching, right? This whole time, I never thought Kobe was watching you play.
If I knew, trust me, I would have went 110% harder than the 110% that I was already putting in, right, So have that mindset.
And then you never know what's gonna happen.
Yeah, So what's sticking to the topic with Kobe? I think this whole goat conversations a little bit over used, so I really want to get into that too much.
But obviously people are like Jordan or LeBron.
Do you think it should really be? I think it should be this way as well.
Jordan, LeBron or Kobe.
I just want No, you're obviously, um, you know, I'm not even gonna categorize it.
And I'll tell you why right, because I think you and I and people who I want to know more about the sports or basketball.
Where and I should say it should be situational, right? I think they're great in all of the skills and talents that they have, right? But her situation, I might choose a different player.
What? MJ for this I might want LeBron.
You know, If there's, you know, who's gonna have that last second shot, I'd probably pick Kobe right Or some people might pick LeBron.
Who would you rather have off of a ball screen? You know, at the top of the key coming off, Who would you rather have coming off a flare? You know, I think we should get more creative and more in depth and news basketball terms more.
And then maybe we might really be able to break it down and have real conversations, right? It's like politics.
It's like, Oh, you know, do you just Do you watch the news, or do you really like, read the news and stay up to date and understand the concepts and and follow a certain person and really believe in their strategies right? Or do you just watch the news.
And then when our politics conversation pops up, you just want to be that person that chimes in and really doesn't know what you're talking about, right? So we constantly hear this conversation about, Oh, who NJ LeBron cov.
Which one's better about what, Bubba? I'm like, Oh my gosh, I'm talking to somebody who probably doesn't even didn't even watch them or didn't even take the time to care and compare, You know, why am I gonna go insane? To could convince this person which one is what right when.
Maybe they might not even understand what I say from a basketball level.
So, you know, I think US basketball players and not even basketball players.
But people who aren't best into the basketball world like yourself should really throw something at somebody like, you know, who would you rather have coming off of a flare or 10 seconds left in the game? Tied up.
You know he's got four fouls so we can't risk an offense.
Offensive fell right? That's something to consider.
He's being face guarded.
Oh, they're doubling him.
What do you gonna do now? You know, let's get creative.
That That's definitely way more interesting perspective.
Obviously, we know that the MBA has definitely evolved from just being a game.
Were you want the tallest player on your team to now? Um, I guess the tallest players can now shoot threes and do all these crazy pullout moves and drive to the basket.
I'm curious if you could see the W N B A evolving the some in a similar type of way.
And also do you ever think that girls will be able to play with boys? Because I think I think we're definitely getting close.
Obviously, players of Haley Van Lift paid job page buckets.
Obviously there, I think that they could probably stand a chance against some tough boys competition.
So I'm curious whether you think the girls will eventually be able to play with the boys.
And if you think the WNBA's game in general will evolve to a different style of play, well, I'm gonna be a critic here, I think one.
We've definitely seen women that can have multiple positions and do it all like Diana Sarosi like Sue Bird, like Elena Della Donne a little bit, you know, maybe not a little bit point guard role just cause she's really tall.
But in terms of the n b.
You know, if a man is capable of doing multiple things, a woman can do multiple things.
You know, we're not comparing the men and women together, but we're saying, Hey, if a man can do it himself in this way, so kind of women, right? We're not going like this.
We're keeping it here.
And I think there is a wall because biologically, I don't want to be physically stronger than a man.
But, um, you know, going back to women playing in the N B A or with them, you know, I played and competed against boys up to a certain level.
Right now I'm 56 £150 you know? Is it worth it for me to go against 200 something guys when I'm 18 years old in college? No, right? Not at full effect.
No, it's not. You know.
Now can I go in a workout with them to match their intensity? Yes, on the basketball court.
You know, shooting workout, right? I'm master intensity and match their work ethic.
I know that there dribble and harder because they're stronger.
You know, I might be shooting with the men's ball to get my my handle stronger.
It's all of that stuff.
Um, so and you know, if it does become a thing, I will say, play at your own risk, right? If women want to play in the NBA, you know, give it a shot.
But I don't think it should be this thing where, like, oh, you know, you get drafted to this team and you're on it for a year or this is your your contract like that's never going to happen.
I think you know, there should be more events under the professional level where women and men are playing together like the Big Three.
Or maybe like, um, you know, uh, other outside competitions and competitive events that, like I said, I need to be created because I can't talk.
I can't even refer to them because they don't exist.
I I guess some actually I've never really seen like a girl playing this before, But obviously there's all those summer.
I don't know if they were just restricted for men, but obviously there's all those like summer league programme games that I'm sure.
And like, there's not even a Julie for women.
And half of the time when you see like an event ambassador, all of it 90% of it is entertainment, right? Like the n B a All Star game.
Yeah, we got it, you know, Or like the celebrity.
The celebrity All Star game, right? Yes, it's for it, like celebrities and stuff.
But a lot of these, you know, if it's not at the professional level MBA and WNBA Org league status, it can be deemed like to entertaining.
And then, you know it's not.
Actually, it's not actually competitive bright people.
It's not competitive basketball wives, you know, there's people are just lobbing dunks and not playing hard.
And, you know, we're not actually seeing good fastball plays, so, you know, I think there needs to be more competitive.
Leagues aren't considered professional, but still where people could play a sport and make a living off of it.
Er, um, create a platform off of it.
You know, if right now there was a league that I could join, I definitely would.
That wasn't a year's worth or I did not to train its hard something I don't want to just, you know, the longevity of my knees can't do it.
So players that are limited in such ways, you know, how can we do that? Yeah, if you ever happen to create one of those leagues I would love to be on board is one of the founders, for sure, but a couple quick more topics.
Some one I see behind you.
You have one of your Gatorade player of years.
I forgot to mention movie.
We're having a little Q.
And I Just What? What was that? Like being on a three time Gatorade player of the Year? Who? It was sick, man, because I was a sop****re in high school, right? I'm young and the great girls who are playing the lead, our seniors and I'm thinking, you know, oh, they might give it to them.
It's their last year about bar, you know, I really have no chance.
I knew that I had to compete every game, right, And at the end of the day, I at the end of the day, Isaac, if you take all these Gatorade's away.
I'd say okay with that because I wanted my team to win.
I wanted us to get a state championship and because I had that mentality and I gave my all for my team first.
And then, like, for myself.
And I knew I had to give all for myself for my team, right? Vice versa.
You know, I didn't.
My sop****re year when I was really young, I was like, Oh, Gatorade like, Oh, my God, that's crazy, right? It hit me so hard because I was just, like, deep.
Deep down, that was my goal.
I didn't tell people, right, because I was young, you know, I didn't which, you know, it wasn't public, but it was a goal that I had that even though I knew I might not get it, I've gotten it.
I wasn't scared to put that goal in my head and have it on my list.
And guess what it actually happened.
So then I was like, You know what? My goal now is to get a scholarship at X Y Z University, right? You know, went from Delaware, Towson, Loyola ST Joe's.
Um even like you see a ah, you esa right to Miami to about Georgia Tech to Virginia Tech.
NC State, Syracuse.
You know West Coast now.
You know, country exposure.
Full effect, right? It's all of these goals, right? You gotta You gotta start from day one.
And if you you don't have a day one and you're, like, odds too late.
So I'm so before you leave this real quick.
I saw a tweet last year where it was like people claim they love basketball, which I claim, But then the within the tweet finished by saying, but they never watched the w N B A.
If you really love basketball, you should watch the WNBA's.
So I started getting into that in the beginning of the school year.
So I just want to ask you to tell us just a couple of ah quick names of women's basketball players, probably preferably current that we should probably ah, tune into for the WNBA's season because I think if you're a real basketball over like I clean myself to be, obviously you got to know all levels of the game.
WNBA's obviously, uh, one of that, right? I would say, um, you know, I'm not gonna force anybody to wash anything if you like it, uh, investor time.
And if you actually understand true value, then you will watch the WNBA.
And so I advise people to seek out and find that value, and then you will see that you will be directed towards thes outlets.
Just like LeBron James is just like Kobe Bryant was all these great successful people.
And, you know, do you think LeBron James and Kobe Bryant do you think that they want to go to a woman's high school game and go into a high school gym and have that all that loud noise? I mean, they live with that every day, have to understand that there's so much more to it.
And it's not just just cause, right, think about why people are doing things and then apply it.
So, um, for this WMD a season if hopefully the games air playing, I don't know if there's gonna be fans and their butts.
If the games are being viewed, there's no excuse to not watch it, I would say, obviously, um, Elena delle Donne in the Washington Mystics, previous w B a champions watched them.
Um, I would watch Sabrina Ionescu coming in.
Um, from Oregon.
She was the number one draft pick for this, uh, w me a draft.
So watch her coming in. We'll see what she does.
Um, you know, ah, lot of people recently retired out of the W b A this year, so it's unfortunate that you're not able to wash these players, but I would go back and watch previous players.
Super Dan, it's Rossi.
I mean, Lisa Leslie's name is literally in rap songs right there on those people who listen to the, you know, you claim you you love Ah, little Wayne and Nicki Minaj like me, right? They used Lisa, Leslie and all the like.
Everything is connected.
So actually, do your homework and your research before you just start talking **** on instagram saying Go make me a sandwich in the kitchen or some something stupid like that because it may and all of these w me players, we get negative comments every day, right? But I don't care about it.
And people actually knew that they wouldn't waste their time going out of their way to tell me all these things and comment that because it doesn't matter, right? You know, compare yourself.
It almost has a negative stereotype, but it has to be done, right? Yeah.
Any woman away Will you sign in the society we limit? Yeah, I agree.
Honestly for you guys washing.
I think I mentioned it's my first podcast, but so the beginning of the school year I was watching the no basketball on, but then I kind of run without tweet.
I'm like, let me shoot into the W N B A and I was like, hooks like in like, the playoff I started on.
I was hurt like in the playoffs, and I was like, We were kind of fundamental style of play, I guess, in a way, I think it's a little more like, fundamentally based.
I like that a lot more of Anyways, I know you have to go.
It was a pleasure having you here.
You see, this is by far when we did the film ****ysis, when you brought in that really film, I would love that.
I think we should, you know, connect nothing more, and I think we should commit to like a video. It's a week.
Dude, of course, I would love to do that weekly.
That would be like thou Definitely as much as it would be kind of cool for the viewers that would benefit me.
I think I really appreciate that.
Film clips, Um, even like reporters that previously said things in the media right? And we could go back and be like, Oh, what did they Me and you know, what do you think about that? Comment doesn't necessarily have to be like, Let's watch LeBron James highlights and see this best play that he did him.
You know, we're like N B a finals game.
You know what happened at the end? You know, six.
Or you know, when CO I hit that shot, you know, let's go back.
No, let's see what Stephen A.
Smith said and have this controversial topic.
Or, you know, what do you think's gonna happen in the future with, you know, all this stuff? But, you know, let's watch film.
Let's teach those people how to actually, you know, I'm telling people don't go wash the film, but maybe they don't know how to watch film.
Maybe they don't know how to break it down.
I had my dad to help me break it down.
So maybe we can show people.
You know, this is what you need to wash this hour.
You know, maybe people out there right that are listening Send us your film clip.
Maybe in an email, me and I said, can you know, coordinate on something and and will be your film breakdown people.
I really want to look how to learn how to break down Film was well, so well, I'll definitely make sure to have it back on the show.
That sounds off.
My I really appreciate everything that you've done.
Selva, Before you leave, you get this plug, whatever you want.
A plug real quick and then Ah, that will be the show, My guy.
Yes, thank you, everyone, that soon in hopefully stay up to date with what me and Isaac are gonna do and potentially create in the future.
Ah, always lost sportscast.
There's such a great program.
I think you should tell everybody about it.
Who isn't on it right now to go create one and connect with us.
Because look at all of these great conversations that we're having and I learned a lot today, and I'm sure Isaac did.
And I'm sure you all did.
So spread the word.
All right. Um, we heard here.
So much for watching off.
Thank you so much.
I know it was a pleasure half being on the show.
I really appreciate it.
I hope you have a great ah, great Western.
Your weekend, we'll definitely, uh, we'll definitely keep in touch.
Ah, we'll definitely be back here soon for sure.
No, I said yeah.
All right, my guy.
Thank you so much.
So, um, that will be the stream.
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Just about what it takes to be a player.
Kind of all the things you can do outside of being a basketball player.
We learned a lot about basketball.
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