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Welcome to the Stream Early Edition today and I am going to in any minutes be joined by Josh Bar Log at Josh U S. Sen.
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He and I are going to break down two things quickly.
We're going to touch on the new breaking news from the Double A today in which they are headed in the right direction on potentially paying student athletes going forward and then were mostly going to be discussing the MLB's new proposal in which they might be returning as soon as June and will discuss all those changes, you know, throughout this stream.
So I'm gonna get Josh on the line here, and we are going.
Teoh, go forward with this.
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And so that being said, thank you for giving that little plug here.
I thought it was would be worthwhile to everybody listening to mine as well, if they weren't already aware.
Listening to yours earlier in the week I thought we would kind of touch on the N.
C double a development that we had today first.
And for those of you that do not know, CBS Sports and a few other big name sources kind of released the fact that we're headed in, ah, direction in which athletes might be able to finally profit off of their name and likeness and get paid to play. Essentially.
So I'll just read a few little excerpts here from the article that I'm reading.
You know, it says that the N C double a board of governors was met recently, and that's where this decision is coming from.
This proposed rule change would allow working group of athletes to take advantage of their rights to I received money for their likeness.
Ah, third party endor*****ts, social media influence, personal appearances and their own business.
So this is obviously groundbreaking stuff.
The uh, recommendations will be considered by NC Double A's all three divisions.
Ah, before the legislation is drafted, rules are expected to be written by October 31st and a vote occurring no later than January 31st of next year.
So again, that's name image and likeness rights would be in effect for the 2021 22 athletic seasons.
So ah, just a few ways in which the athletes could be paid our third party endor*****ts, such as promoting a product or service on television, radio or in adverti*****ts.
Social media influencing, such as modelling or promoting a product or service in exchange for samples.
Twitter, instagram, Tic Tac, Facebook, etcetera, their own work product or business activities, including digital content creation podcasts, YouTube videos, streaming services, utilization of talents for music, art, etcetera, personal promotions like autograph signings and meet and greets and those types of things.
And, ah, there will be no cap on endor*****t earnings for the athletes.
Now there are just a few key restrictions as well.
And then once we get through, this will kind of touch base on what our opinions are of this.
So the restrictions are athletes or third parties can't use intellectual property, logos or trademarks from schools or conferences in their endor*****ts.
Schools of conferences cannot make endor*****t payments themselves.
Schools are conferences cannot facilitate or help athletes locate or arrange endor*****ts.
So my guess would be they can't, you know, higher agents and the schools can't really help them get this business.
They basically have to be presented with them.
Ah, and then schools cannot use or allow boosters to use.
Ah, the endor*****ts as a means of paying for their enrollment or participation in athletics.
So a lot of legalese goes behind this.
But what is your initial thought when you hear this news? Well, yeah, that's way talk before the before going live that we can We can talk about this for hours, so I'm sure there's gonna be a couple more streams in the future that that we really dissect and dive into this.
But my initial thought was finally, um, I think of a bit of a hot take from my end, and I think with, with all these possibilities kind of ramping up for college players, I think you're really gonna see who really loved football or not, because, you know, we're going to get to the point where you know, athletes they're still there.
Still balancing a school, schedule an academic schedule right on top of practice and games, and travel on everything, I bet.
But you're gonna find out.
I think, what kind of player these individuals are because if you're you know, you're a quarterback at a big time school or wide receiver at a big time school and you're getting money thrown at you for brands that's gonna take time away from your academic and actually practicing your craft, right? I mean, it could impact people going pro.
Um, I think I think athletes is obviously a good opportunity for athletes, but I think that you need to be a little bit careful and not not get too Um, not go too crazy.
Um, but I wanted to touch on this to you mentioned that institutions can't payout right.
They can't pay out an athlete for endor*****t, But that doesn't make any sense because athletes are they're plastered all over universities with big time programs.
I mean, if you if you look at you, go on like that PC network, right? I think that might be different if a network is running a promo for um pronto Ohio State and they talk about J.
That's an endor*****t.
And if you, um, you know, if you've ever gone to an Ohio State game or any sort of college game a player shows up on the ticket.
So isn't that an endor*****t like that's basically saying that the school can use that player however they want, but they just can't pay him? I just I think that's a little That's a little funny and maybe I'm thinking too much into it.
Or maybe not dissecting it enough.
Um, but I just think that there's there, some There's something here that might get a little sticky.
Um, but we'll see.
Either way, I'm happy because, you know, when you when you opened and you said players are gonna be allowed to profit, that's a That's a keyword.
Its profit, right? Because the argument before this was, well, players are getting paid to go to school in the play because they're getting scholarships 20 year in a year.
Yeah, so so But e.
I mean, honestly, like if you want to consider it that, sure, you are technically getting paid because your tuition is covered, and then these things are covered, right? But you're not profiting off of it, So these kids are still broke.
I mean, they're some of these kids they're talking about.
They eat the same thing seven times a week because that's what they can afford or you don't saying like they're not living this lavish life until they graduate from college and go pro.
So, um, a really good opportunity for for these college athletes.
And I just think, you know, cautiously optimistic is what I would, uh, I would summarize it for players because they couldn't get a little messy if they were careful.
So ah, again, you touched on it.
We could discuss this at length, hours and hours, and I'm not even exaggerating on that either.
For those that don't know, my full time occupation at the moment is I worked as a paralegal.
Actually, the department I'm in, we deal with labor laws.
And I have discussed this at length with several attorneys in our office that have been doing this for several years and our sports fans themselves.
So we've kind of brought this subject up in the past.
And the problem with this the most difficult part about this is I've never been one that has really bought into the old.
They get paid by getting a full ride scholarship.
Blimey, the these guys these universities are making and profiting so much off these players, so don't give me that.
That doesn't count percentage.
Percentage of what? Their pennies on the dollar of what they're bringing in revenue want.
But my biggest concern would be out of this whole thing is, you know, just the competition between schools.
There's already too much.
Ah, behind the scenes, uh, you know, flirting with the line of cheating to get certain guys to their school.
There's already so much just nasty things that are going on behind the scenes that we're not aware of when you bring this element in two things and you can have certain schools being ableto outbid players, essentially with their resource, is that they're able to throw with these players and everything else.
And if money starts getting involved as well, even more so than it already is, that's where my concern is.
Is that some of these big time programs? I mean, I'm a huge Ohio State fan, so maybe it wouldn't be a huge concern because Ohio State has a ton of resource this, But if you're just thinking from a macro level, you know, it is really concerning.
Especially like a team like Notre Dame.
They don't even have a conference, so they might even have you know they might be able.
Teoh outbid other players if they're not in a conference.
I don't know that there's just so much unknown and uncer*****y.
And when you have that added element in there, that's my biggest worry is that they would really have to hammer down big time on, uh, either implementing some sort of like salary cap or something.
I don't know what you would do or how you would do it, but just a way to, you know, limit these huge organisations in these huge universities from being able to outbid certain guys for recruiting purposes and just be ableto throw money.
And, you know, that type of thing, You know what I mean? Just the competitive balance.
I'm sure, too that when this came out that, um, that the small schools are smaller programs are really concerned now, too, because you talk about Ohio State's resource is if you look at it even a school that in FBS like temple, you don't have as many resources as Ohio State.
I mean, even missing in state they don't have.
So yeah, I I agree, I think, and that kind of goes back to where it can read it really messy.
I think that you're right.
They're really gonna have to curb this thing.
And I honestly, I think that's why it took so long, right? I don't necessarily think that.
I mean, there's of course, agreed on the side.
Right? But there are so many hoops that you have to make sure that people can't jump through.
You have Teoh, you have to form these boundaries on these clauses in the contracts that allow it to kind of go to study pace to knock it out of hand.
I think the double is, uh, yes, they've done some really questionable things in the past, but I think as faras logistics and stuff like that, when it comes to this thing, I think they're really gonna take their time and make sure that it doesn't, uh, spiral out of control.
Yeah, Yeah, again.
I think you know it is April, and we have until January essentially what the article said for them to vote on everything but s.
So they have some some months to kind of figure this out, but it almost seems like this might get voted down the first time in January and then maybe be thought about and considered in in a few more wrinkles.
Kind of sorted out between that first period in the next period.
And then we could probably maybe see this in the 2022 in 23 season as opposed to 2021 22.
Does that make sense that you're gonna have a lot of Yeah, I think you're gonna have a lot of athletes start to read. Sure do.
By the way, um, no, I final question for you on this from me.
And it might be I don't I really haven't looked into a much, but, you know, with this possibly being in place as students January, uh, that mean we're gonna see an anti double A players union, like I mean, because then you're gonna look who's gonna represent the players you have.
Teoh have to have them. Yeah.
You're gonna have to have that.
A new era college college athletics, for sure. Absolutely.
Well, again, we're probably going to discuss this at length at a later date.
When more information comes out and we have a little bit more to discuss.
Weaken, save that debate for another day.
But I think we're at least kind of in line with our thinking there on the double developments here that we found out today.
Let's move on to this MLB proposal and we discussed the prior proposal about how they were planning.
1 may be hosting all the teams in Arizona and starting in May and all that garbage.
I personally I personally think that that was just attempt to float an idea out there in to the people and let the people decide whether they thought that was a good idea or not.
And if they got a bunch of backlash, they were going to pull that idea and just say, Oh, that wasn't really a real idea.
We just kind of were thinking about exactly.
So I think that's all that WAAS was just a an attempt to get some feedback from the fans on what they might think of that.
So but this new proposal is a little more interesting and I think a little bit more practical, practical as well, so I'm I'm assuming most if they're tuned in here are aware the MLB is now proposing a potential structure in which they would start games in late June or early July 1 of the two and they would almost break it off in the Onley three divisions and it would be an East Division, a West Division in a Central Division.
In that way, you're not traveling as much in your traveling to the same ah general area.
You don't have a ton of people all secluded, toe one area and you also don't have the issue of teams traveling all over the country and potentially spreading any sort of illness.
Those types of things, obviously they're still probably not looking at any fans in the stadium.
And I kind of heard your brief thoughts on that last night when you broke that down.
But, um, I thought it would be interesting to kind of discuss this.
I have about 10 minutes or so left, but ah, for both of us.
Particularly because the Central Division, this new Central Division, would have both of our favorite teams in it.
Now you're a White Sox fan.
I'm a Reds fan and they would both be in the central division because of the geography of all this.
And, ah, so I don't really know how to ask this or what questions to ask, but I guess Do you think this is a practical plan? And are you for this idea? Um, I guess another a bit of a hot take.
Wow, I'm not really, cause I already said it right on on last night stream.
But I'm very for this.
I have to be honest with you.
I wouldn't mind if they did this permanently.
And I think I'm straying away from being a baseball purists because first of all, the 100 games season I'm for, like, just do that.
One 62 is 1 62 It just e game game 45.
You already know if your team is out or not.
Right? So, um, I think I think the 100 games, his ideal going forward.
And I love the three division.
I love just bunching these teams up and and letting them go at it.
And, you know, figuring out what you do in the playoffs law that extended extended playoff format, right? But I absolutely love the idea.
I love the thought of like the White Sox playing of brewers or the Reds playing the, uh, plain Indians more.
I'm a big fan of it.
And yeah, I 100% for this real quick.
Tim Kurkjian was on ESPN 1000 this morning and was talking about this exact plan.
He he thinks this is a, ah more practical approach to what could be the presumption of the MLB season.
He's not for it at all.
I mean, he is his baseball purists.
Aside from aside from, you know, flipping baths and stuff like that.
But as far as the format and the way the seasons constructed, especially now he's not.
He's not really for what was his reasoning? Yeah, he just thinks that it's tarnishing the American and National League, which it is, but it would abolish it.
But he who from that, And that's what I said.
I'm like, Look, we're really making this thing interesting.
He also said, If you're gonna play doubleheaders, he doesn't want any any seven inning game.
He's afraid that if the seven inning games catch on, then they do that permanently.
And to me, it's like I mean, you're gonna have to take the good with the bad from from every situation.
Um, I personally I personally don't like the seven inning thing permanently because I think it's gonna really devalue starting pitchers.
I think they're gonna have pictures, go three innings and be done.
Um, but I would love again.
I would love the homeowner game season.
I would love sticking to three divisions.
I personally feel like the whole argument of baseball games air too long.
That's why people are uninterested.
I personally feel that is completely false.
I think the season is too long in the impact of a shorter season.
Would be better for younger fans and everything else and Mawr impactful, then changing it from nine innings the seven innings cause you're still going to get that leisure time in between innings.
You're still going to get those boring innings where pictures can't freakin throw a strike and they're gonna be walking people.
And you know, you're still going to have those aspects of the game.
You can't take that part out of the game, so I personally feel like just shortening the season will not solve a lot of their issues.
But I personally think that it would benefit them and maybe have a little bit more interest.
One thing I had to tune out late in your stream.
So forgive me if I didn't catch this take of yours.
You mentioned the fun in all of these new teams playing each other and everything else.
One thing I didn't hear you mentioned and one thing that I personally feel like is a huge advantage to this new structure.
Can you imagine the crazy rivalries that are going to come of this if they're on Lee playing teams in their division? So their these divisions aren't just structured divisions job, you know, geographically because of them, you know, it's not just that it's the fact that they don't play any other teams in any other division.
Can you imagine if you're constantly playing the same teams, the rivalries that could be created by this Just think about all the teams in the, um in the West Division like the Dodgers Angels.
All those guys are going to get the benefit of throwing at all these Astros players while everybody else gets to miss out on it.
Yeah, I touched on that a little bit.
Um, I again, that's another person.
Another reason why I love only playing with in your division.
Um, it we would reach Kendall the Cubs White Sox rivalry.
It would probably throw, throw some gasoline on the Indians, red rivalry and so on.
I mean, there's, uh there's 20 of groups of teams that you could be like, Yeah, they're definitely gonna be rivals.
So I think it this really would make the game or interesting.
And I know people are like, Well, now you don't have, like trout coming to Chicago, are you? You know, you don't have these big name players coming through your city, and it's like, Well, I mean, let's be honest, Yeah, like I get people want to see them in person play, but we're talking.
We're talking big picture here.
We're not talking about Trout coming to Chicago once summer people talking about the longevity of the game and being interesting, and I think that this would do it.
People don't realize that this is the same way that it is in football.
So what I would propose is if we go to 100 games, that's great. This year.
The whole virus thing has us concerned, so we only played players in our division.
In football, you only play players and the NFL.
You play teams in your on division, and then you play certain other teams in one specific division each year and you switch back and forth.
So why couldn't MLB do the same thing where they're playing? You know, 85 to 90% of their games within their division, and then maybe they take one West Coast trip throughout the whole year, and they do that kind of thing.
Just, uh, you know, mix up things a little bit and be able to play teams every other couple years.
You get the CDs players type thing, but I still think that that would be a pretty cool structure.
So I love this plan on if you if you think about it, Baseball does that a little bit now, with interleague play, right, the White Sox playing the Mets at home last year on they went to Philadelphia.
No, I mean, they're doing their part.
They play the blurry, they play the brace, so they're sort of doing it.
But it would be at a much more intense scale because you gotta squeeze these things in 100 days.
I mean, I didn't read Ah, much about the article, but a lot of what's I haven't heard this mentioned much since they're mixing up the divisions.
This basically locks in the idea that we're gonna have a universal D h.
I I would think so.
And I know that there's gonna be fans.
That and I'm pretty much indifferent.
Although being an American League fan, I love the D h.
We're all for it.
Um, you know, nobody wants to see Homer Bailey strikeout after just so, like, I think, Yeah, it would be universal.
And, you know, unfortunately, people were gonna love it.
People are gonna hate it again, that sort of thing.
You gotta take the good with the bad.
Yeah, Yeah, I think you're right at Universal Deviations.
Probably in the works.
Yeah, I love it.
I think this will be very fun.
As a baseball fan, I think the only thing that kind of is ah, the firepower that's lacking in all of this is that we have grown accustomed to this whole staying inside, not doing anything, not having sports.
And so whereas any other year, if MLB started this plan in March and we had a full baseball season, we knew what to expect going into the season and everything was new and fresh, everyone would be super ecstatic about that.
And now I'm kind of worried that it won't catch as much steam because we're just all kind of out of it right now as a country, and we're not, like in our, you know, excited state to begin with.
So there's just I'm worried that this won't catch steam, even though it might be a great idea.
Some people just still won't tune in because, I mean, it's just a weird time right now.
I hear I'm not gonna get into this a lot, but I do want to mention one other thing.
I think when you talk about it's not gonna catch theme.
Uh, this is where Major League Baseball and rob Mandarin need.
Teoh need toe swallow their ego and start marketing their league and our players a lot better than what they're doing now.
So I think that had a lot to do with the fact that whatever major league baseball does.
It's gonna have a lot to do with the way they market a market.
Yep, And get it out there on the major networks, not just the regional networks get, you know, get some of these games out here.
Mawr on the big networks like ESPN regular Fox that everybody can tune into instead of just local markets.
If they can find a way to do that, I think it could help a lot.
But, uh, that being said, I think we could also probably have another stream on this subject entirely and kind of break it down even further on the lack of fans, how that might impact some of the players.
And you know, those types of things as well.
But I at least wanted to get your initial reaction to those to the proposed plan that will see if this goes forward from my understanding, they want to get this sorted out, maybe by the middle of May, because they're gonna have to bring these players back in early June to spring training and have, like, a second spring training just to get these guys back in the swing of things.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, uh, usually, Look, if any of these leagues want to push something and they're adamant about getting something done, don't get it done.
And I think you're right.
I think that that that timetable mid May to agree on something and something in writing, and then, yeah, you're right.
You're gonna have toe push these players back out.
And, uh, another interesting thing that we could talk about another stream is what players are gonna before this or against it.
So much so that they're just not gonna put Yeah, there's some There's some players like that.
So yeah, that could be a big issue for sure.
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