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00:00:00
discuss the most famous basketball franchise on the planet, but the biggest, brightest and up and coming voices in sports and culture.
00:00:07
Before I get into today's show, make sure you tell at least one other Laker fan about the Lakers Central podcast.
00:00:13
We're building a community, one listener at a time.
00:00:15
Be sure to take a moment and follow me on Twitter at Laker Central 3 65 You can also follow me on I G at Laker Center 3 65 and take a speck in to go to my Twitter page and click on that patri on Link.
00:00:27
Become a patron of the show and consider supporting my show financially.
00:00:31
That would be really awesome, and I would greatly appreciate that today I'm not joined by anyone.
00:00:38
So I'm the biggest bright, this upcoming voice in sports and culture.
00:00:42
Me, Alex.
00:00:44
So just me.
00:00:45
No.
00:00:46
But for this topic, maybe it's best that I I ride this ship solo.
00:00:49
Um, the topic at hand, Um, that had so many Lakers fans going nuts last night and this morning, um, going after Pam Bryant, Kobe Bryant's mom, Um, basically Twitter found out that some of Kobe's personal items were being auctioned off.
00:01:10
And when news broke, it was framed as if Pam Bryant were selling Ah, Kobe's 2000? NBA championship ring.
00:01:21
So Ah, as you can imagine, that ruffled many Lakers fans feathers, including my own.
00:01:29
Um, but when I saw that, I took a step back and I I decided to do a little bit of research, um, before saying anything crazy on Twitter Because, look, I know how things could get taken out of context, and I know how people like toe tweet things just for shock value.
00:01:48
Um, and just to get attention on Twitter.
00:01:50
So I dug a little bit further, um, the kind of find out what was going on.
00:01:55
And so I went to the auction and it was golden auction.
00:01:58
So let me pull up, um, this auction and show you guys what's being auctioned off.
00:02:05
So as you can see, they've got a lot of stuff.
00:02:08
I mean, game worn sneakers from 2001 in the finals.
00:02:12
A number of Kobe jerseys here, um, is the championship ring in question.
00:02:18
One of his Olympic rings.
00:02:20
More jerseys is 81 point game scorecard.
00:02:25
I mean, as you can see There's just so much stuff here.
00:02:28
Um, there are things that any Lakers fan would love to have.
00:02:34
Um, any sports collector.
00:02:36
What? Love to have I assume his family would love toe have, um, but there's just so many I don't there.
00:02:44
There are two pages where the items here.
00:02:48
Um, it's just absolutely nuts.
00:02:50
How much stuff is here or not? Um, I don't know if all of this came from Pam.
00:02:57
Um, the only thing that I could see is that this specific ring has her name on it.
00:03:04
That's it.
00:03:05
Everything else from what I could find did not actually have her name on it.
00:03:10
So I don't know where these items came from.
00:03:12
Um, that would require a little bit more research.
00:03:16
Ah, that I just I just didn't do you given how quickly this story came out.
00:03:21
So it's an interesting story because it got a lot of people upset.
00:03:27
Um, but when I dug into the ring itself, that 2000 championship ring Pam is actually not selling that ring right now.
00:03:37
She sold that ring back in 2000 and 13.
00:03:41
So whoever is selling it now, you know, I don't know how many times this.
00:03:46
It's changed hands since she since Pam sold it in 2013.
00:03:50
But whoever owns in Ellis, the one that's reselling it and that is not paying Bryant.
00:03:55
So you may be asking, Why would she even sell Kobe's ring in the first place back in 2013? Um, but the truth is, that's not Kobe's ring.
00:04:07
It's a replica ring that he gave to her.
00:04:10
When MBA teams win championships, they typically give rings and not just players and coaches and executives, but to give rings to a number of staff members as well as family members.
00:04:21
And so this may have been one of those rings.
00:04:24
Or maybe it was of rain that Kobe had made special, you know, as a replica to his ring.
00:04:30
I don't know the specifics of that, but I do know that it's a replica ring and it is not his championship ring.
00:04:39
Um, it's a ring that he gave to his mother.
00:04:41
Obviously, it doesn't seem right that she would sell of Ring that he gave her in the first place, but she did so back in 2000 and 13 and that's just what it is.
00:04:53
You know, there's not a whole lot of new news around that we that's just what the situation is.
00:04:58
And Kobe is no longer with us.
00:05:00
And fortunately to tell us if he agrees with that at this present time where he doesn't agree with it, we simply don't know.
00:05:08
No, What we do know is there was a lawsuit back then in 2000 and 13 with this same auction house that is auctioning off, um, these existing items right here, the same auction house Goldin auctions out New Jersey.
00:05:25
That's the same auction house that Pam Bryant consigned a number of Kobe's items to a believe over 100 items back then, Um and she was asking for, I think, $450,000 back in 2013.
00:05:41
So I'm not sure if that ring was was within those items that may have been, Um, but at that point a lawsuit was filed.
00:05:50
She said that he gave the that.
00:05:52
She asked Kobe what did he want to do? All these items because they were in her possession, I guess. At her home.
00:05:58
She claims that he said, I don't want them. They're yours. Do what you want.
00:06:03
She said they were. Some of them were in storage.
00:06:05
She was paying some what? I think 1500 bucks a month on these items and she consigned them into cell.
00:06:11
And so, you know, that was back in 2013.
00:06:16
Now, back then, Kobe did tweet.
00:06:19
Ah, he did tweet.
00:06:20
And I quote when you give I'm sorry.
00:06:24
And I quote when you give, give and they take take, take At what point do you draw the line in the sand? Hashtag hurt beyond measure.
00:06:32
Hashtag gave me no warning.
00:06:33
Hashtag love question mark so clearly by that wheat Ah, he was bothered by those items being sold back in 2013.
00:06:44
We do know that whether or not he and his mom reconciled over the years, we don't know only he and his mother and in closest family members know that Kobe's relationship with his parents seem to complicate it.
00:06:59
But I would argue no more complicated than many of us with their own parents likely The only difference is that none of us for Kobe Bryant none of us were a mega star and had 100 hundreds of millions of dollars, so that in itself can add a number of complications to your your your relationship with your family.
00:07:21
Um, but what? You know the thing about Kobe and his parents is that I know I just read that sweet, but they never talked publicly.
00:07:33
They never shared what was going on.
00:07:35
Even though there may be issues between he and his parents, we don't have, you know, interviews.
00:07:42
We don't have tell all books.
00:07:44
We we don't have any of these things.
00:07:48
His wife, Vanessa, doesn't talk.
00:07:51
Not about this.
00:07:52
At least His sisters don't talk.
00:07:55
No.
00:07:56
Is his eldest daughter is 17 certainly old enough to be on social media? She doesn't talk about these things.
00:08:02
There are no crazy cousins trying to sell Kobe Story or his parents story to TMZ.
00:08:07
There's none of that.
00:08:09
So it's incredibly impressive that they kept whatever issues we're going on within their family.
00:08:18
They kept them quiet in a time where families are running to be on camera and sell their stories.
00:08:26
As for his parents, we simply don't know their financial situation.
00:08:31
Maybe Kobe gave them millions of dollars.
00:08:34
Maybe he didn't Who knows? His father did play an MBA, But that was in the seventies, and players weren't making $30 million a season.
00:08:44
When jellybean Joe Bryant played, they weren't and so we simply don't know what their financial situation is.
00:08:52
I don't believe that they're hurting for money, but we don't know what's going on again because nobody talks.
00:09:00
Enough said this time and time again on my podcast.
00:09:04
I lost my mother in February of 2019 and I have some of her things.
00:09:09
My siblings have some of her stuff.
00:09:10
We gave some of her stuff to other family members to her own siblings.
00:09:14
We give a lot to charity, but we couldn't keep it all.
00:09:18
There were some items we had to sell that I wish we didn't so but we could not keep it all.
00:09:25
And I'm not saying this to take up for Pam.
00:09:28
I'm simply saying we don't know they're such situation because they don't talk about it and we shouldn't pass judgment.
00:09:38
We shouldn't be so quick to pass judgment to see people jump to conclusion off of a tweet to set.
00:09:45
I've even I've even tweeted out some of the information that I'm sharing with you guys right now.
00:09:50
I tweeted it out last night, and I still saw some of my own followers reacting to the original wrong information.
00:09:59
They got everybody upset.
00:10:04
You know, it's it's more important than ever in times like this to take a moment and not overreact.
00:10:11
I was talking my wife about this before I decided to go live with you guys and she was saying, You know, there's a lot going on right now with the pandemic He died just a few months ago.
00:10:23
People still hurt, You know, people are going to react quickly sometimes.
00:10:28
And I said, I agree with that.
00:10:31
Also said that I am one of his biggest fans.
00:10:34
Hello.
00:10:35
I have a pilot cast dedicated to the Lakers, and that is largely because of Kobe Bryant.
00:10:40
I cried real tears from multiple days after that man died.
00:10:46
But when I saw that we come out that his mom was selling his ring literally lean back on my couch and said, Okay, wait a minute, let me just let me just take a take a minute and see if I can find any more information about this, because everything we see on Twitter isn't always accurate and long behold, there's more to the story, and there's just more to it that we're not gonna find out about and, you know, to be completely honest, there are a lot of items on that auction block that I would love to have myself that I literally talk to my wife about and said, Hey, how would you feel if I spent some money on some of these things or really one, cause that they are quite expensive, Obviously nothing that Kobe owned is gonna hit hit the street for five bucks.
00:11:35
But if you're a passionate Laker fan and your you really enjoyed Kobe, there are things on there that you would love to have.
00:11:43
Does it seem odd that his mom would sell items if any of these air actually still hers? Yes, it does.
00:11:53
I have.
00:11:54
My mom never owned a pair pearls.
00:11:56
Well, she did at one point, but ultimately, um, years.
00:12:01
And she said, I never owned any pearls.
00:12:04
So I for one of her birthdays or Mother's Day, I can't recall now.
00:12:08
This is a number of years ago, but I bought her her first set of pearls, and when she passed away.
00:12:16
I got those pearls back.
00:12:18
I'm a dude.
00:12:19
I don't wear pearls.
00:12:22
But those pearls mean the world to me because I bought my mom her first set of pearls and I didn't even give those pearls.
00:12:31
My wife, my wife knows I have him.
00:12:33
Um, we don't have any Children, We don't have a daughter and all likely that I'm going to give them to my niece at some point.
00:12:42
So, yes, there are certain things that I have of my mom's that I can't imagine selling, but I have no idea how much of Kobe's items his parents have.
00:12:54
You know, when someone accomplishes what he does or what he did, they're bound to be a number of championship rings, banners, Ah, jerseys, sneakers, all kinds of things.
00:13:09
I don't I don't know if they could have held onto all these things, maybe they could head.
00:13:15
Maybe they could have given it to other family members.
00:13:19
Of course, once you start doing that, you know at some point items are going to start it auction block when you start giving it, giving it out to more more family members.
00:13:27
I don't know.
00:13:28
I don't know what the answer is, except to say, we don't know what their situation is, and so it's probably best that we don't jump to a conclusion and we let this family continue to grieve.
00:13:39
Ah, whether be Vanessa and their Children or be Joe and Pam and Kobe siblings or be the rest of us were who are fans will support at this man for the 20 years he was in the purple and gold and did the three years that we had him once he retired.
00:13:57
But let's not pass judgment, man, because none of us really know what's going on.
00:14:02
So let me step down on my soapbox.
00:14:04
I know you all are probably tired of hearing me preach, but what I really wanted to, um, deliver that, you know, on a more serious note, um, and just take a breather and let these people grieve.
00:14:18
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Kobe Bryant's items up for auction

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Alex Hollingsworth @LakerCentral

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00:00:00
discuss the most famous basketball franchise on the planet, but the biggest, brightest and up and coming voices in sports and culture.
00:00:07
Before I get into today's show, make sure you tell at least one other Laker fan about the Lakers Central podcast.
00:00:13
We're building a community, one listener at a time.
00:00:15
Be sure to take a moment and follow me on Twitter at Laker Central 3 65 You can also follow me on I G at Laker Center 3 65 and take a speck in to go to my Twitter page and click on that patri on Link.
00:00:27
Become a patron of the show and consider supporting my show financially.
00:00:31
That would be really awesome, and I would greatly appreciate that today I'm not joined by anyone.
00:00:38
So I'm the biggest bright, this upcoming voice in sports and culture.
00:00:42
Me, Alex.
00:00:44
So just me.
00:00:45
No.
00:00:46
But for this topic, maybe it's best that I I ride this ship solo.
00:00:49
Um, the topic at hand, Um, that had so many Lakers fans going nuts last night and this morning, um, going after Pam Bryant, Kobe Bryant's mom, Um, basically Twitter found out that some of Kobe's personal items were being auctioned off.
00:01:10
And when news broke, it was framed as if Pam Bryant were selling Ah, Kobe's 2000? NBA championship ring.
00:01:21
So Ah, as you can imagine, that ruffled many Lakers fans feathers, including my own.
00:01:29
Um, but when I saw that, I took a step back and I I decided to do a little bit of research, um, before saying anything crazy on Twitter Because, look, I know how things could get taken out of context, and I know how people like toe tweet things just for shock value.
00:01:48
Um, and just to get attention on Twitter.
00:01:50
So I dug a little bit further, um, the kind of find out what was going on.
00:01:55
And so I went to the auction and it was golden auction.
00:01:58
So let me pull up, um, this auction and show you guys what's being auctioned off.
00:02:05
So as you can see, they've got a lot of stuff.
00:02:08
I mean, game worn sneakers from 2001 in the finals.
00:02:12
A number of Kobe jerseys here, um, is the championship ring in question.
00:02:18
One of his Olympic rings.
00:02:20
More jerseys is 81 point game scorecard.
00:02:25
I mean, as you can see There's just so much stuff here.
00:02:28
Um, there are things that any Lakers fan would love to have.
00:02:34
Um, any sports collector.
00:02:36
What? Love to have I assume his family would love toe have, um, but there's just so many I don't there.
00:02:44
There are two pages where the items here.
00:02:48
Um, it's just absolutely nuts.
00:02:50
How much stuff is here or not? Um, I don't know if all of this came from Pam.
00:02:57
Um, the only thing that I could see is that this specific ring has her name on it.
00:03:04
That's it.
00:03:05
Everything else from what I could find did not actually have her name on it.
00:03:10
So I don't know where these items came from.
00:03:12
Um, that would require a little bit more research.
00:03:16
Ah, that I just I just didn't do you given how quickly this story came out.
00:03:21
So it's an interesting story because it got a lot of people upset.
00:03:27
Um, but when I dug into the ring itself, that 2000 championship ring Pam is actually not selling that ring right now.
00:03:37
She sold that ring back in 2000 and 13.
00:03:41
So whoever is selling it now, you know, I don't know how many times this.
00:03:46
It's changed hands since she since Pam sold it in 2013.
00:03:50
But whoever owns in Ellis, the one that's reselling it and that is not paying Bryant.
00:03:55
So you may be asking, Why would she even sell Kobe's ring in the first place back in 2013? Um, but the truth is, that's not Kobe's ring.
00:04:07
It's a replica ring that he gave to her.
00:04:10
When MBA teams win championships, they typically give rings and not just players and coaches and executives, but to give rings to a number of staff members as well as family members.
00:04:21
And so this may have been one of those rings.
00:04:24
Or maybe it was of rain that Kobe had made special, you know, as a replica to his ring.
00:04:30
I don't know the specifics of that, but I do know that it's a replica ring and it is not his championship ring.
00:04:39
Um, it's a ring that he gave to his mother.
00:04:41
Obviously, it doesn't seem right that she would sell of Ring that he gave her in the first place, but she did so back in 2000 and 13 and that's just what it is.
00:04:53
You know, there's not a whole lot of new news around that we that's just what the situation is.
00:04:58
And Kobe is no longer with us.
00:05:00
And fortunately to tell us if he agrees with that at this present time where he doesn't agree with it, we simply don't know.
00:05:08
No, What we do know is there was a lawsuit back then in 2000 and 13 with this same auction house that is auctioning off, um, these existing items right here, the same auction house Goldin auctions out New Jersey.
00:05:25
That's the same auction house that Pam Bryant consigned a number of Kobe's items to a believe over 100 items back then, Um and she was asking for, I think, $450,000 back in 2013.
00:05:41
So I'm not sure if that ring was was within those items that may have been, Um, but at that point a lawsuit was filed.
00:05:50
She said that he gave the that.
00:05:52
She asked Kobe what did he want to do? All these items because they were in her possession, I guess. At her home.
00:05:58
She claims that he said, I don't want them. They're yours. Do what you want.
00:06:03
She said they were. Some of them were in storage.
00:06:05
She was paying some what? I think 1500 bucks a month on these items and she consigned them into cell.
00:06:11
And so, you know, that was back in 2013.
00:06:16
Now, back then, Kobe did tweet.
00:06:19
Ah, he did tweet.
00:06:20
And I quote when you give I'm sorry.
00:06:24
And I quote when you give, give and they take take, take At what point do you draw the line in the sand? Hashtag hurt beyond measure.
00:06:32
Hashtag gave me no warning.
00:06:33
Hashtag love question mark so clearly by that wheat Ah, he was bothered by those items being sold back in 2013.
00:06:44
We do know that whether or not he and his mom reconciled over the years, we don't know only he and his mother and in closest family members know that Kobe's relationship with his parents seem to complicate it.
00:06:59
But I would argue no more complicated than many of us with their own parents likely The only difference is that none of us for Kobe Bryant none of us were a mega star and had 100 hundreds of millions of dollars, so that in itself can add a number of complications to your your your relationship with your family.
00:07:21
Um, but what? You know the thing about Kobe and his parents is that I know I just read that sweet, but they never talked publicly.
00:07:33
They never shared what was going on.
00:07:35
Even though there may be issues between he and his parents, we don't have, you know, interviews.
00:07:42
We don't have tell all books.
00:07:44
We we don't have any of these things.
00:07:48
His wife, Vanessa, doesn't talk.
00:07:51
Not about this.
00:07:52
At least His sisters don't talk.
00:07:55
No.
00:07:56
Is his eldest daughter is 17 certainly old enough to be on social media? She doesn't talk about these things.
00:08:02
There are no crazy cousins trying to sell Kobe Story or his parents story to TMZ.
00:08:07
There's none of that.
00:08:09
So it's incredibly impressive that they kept whatever issues we're going on within their family.
00:08:18
They kept them quiet in a time where families are running to be on camera and sell their stories.
00:08:26
As for his parents, we simply don't know their financial situation.
00:08:31
Maybe Kobe gave them millions of dollars.
00:08:34
Maybe he didn't Who knows? His father did play an MBA, But that was in the seventies, and players weren't making $30 million a season.
00:08:44
When jellybean Joe Bryant played, they weren't and so we simply don't know what their financial situation is.
00:08:52
I don't believe that they're hurting for money, but we don't know what's going on again because nobody talks.
00:09:00
Enough said this time and time again on my podcast.
00:09:04
I lost my mother in February of 2019 and I have some of her things.
00:09:09
My siblings have some of her stuff.
00:09:10
We gave some of her stuff to other family members to her own siblings.
00:09:14
We give a lot to charity, but we couldn't keep it all.
00:09:18
There were some items we had to sell that I wish we didn't so but we could not keep it all.
00:09:25
And I'm not saying this to take up for Pam.
00:09:28
I'm simply saying we don't know they're such situation because they don't talk about it and we shouldn't pass judgment.
00:09:38
We shouldn't be so quick to pass judgment to see people jump to conclusion off of a tweet to set.
00:09:45
I've even I've even tweeted out some of the information that I'm sharing with you guys right now.
00:09:50
I tweeted it out last night, and I still saw some of my own followers reacting to the original wrong information.
00:09:59
They got everybody upset.
00:10:04
You know, it's it's more important than ever in times like this to take a moment and not overreact.
00:10:11
I was talking my wife about this before I decided to go live with you guys and she was saying, You know, there's a lot going on right now with the pandemic He died just a few months ago.
00:10:23
People still hurt, You know, people are going to react quickly sometimes.
00:10:28
And I said, I agree with that.
00:10:31
Also said that I am one of his biggest fans.
00:10:34
Hello.
00:10:35
I have a pilot cast dedicated to the Lakers, and that is largely because of Kobe Bryant.
00:10:40
I cried real tears from multiple days after that man died.
00:10:46
But when I saw that we come out that his mom was selling his ring literally lean back on my couch and said, Okay, wait a minute, let me just let me just take a take a minute and see if I can find any more information about this, because everything we see on Twitter isn't always accurate and long behold, there's more to the story, and there's just more to it that we're not gonna find out about and, you know, to be completely honest, there are a lot of items on that auction block that I would love to have myself that I literally talk to my wife about and said, Hey, how would you feel if I spent some money on some of these things or really one, cause that they are quite expensive, Obviously nothing that Kobe owned is gonna hit hit the street for five bucks.
00:11:35
But if you're a passionate Laker fan and your you really enjoyed Kobe, there are things on there that you would love to have.
00:11:43
Does it seem odd that his mom would sell items if any of these air actually still hers? Yes, it does.
00:11:53
I have.
00:11:54
My mom never owned a pair pearls.
00:11:56
Well, she did at one point, but ultimately, um, years.
00:12:01
And she said, I never owned any pearls.
00:12:04
So I for one of her birthdays or Mother's Day, I can't recall now.
00:12:08
This is a number of years ago, but I bought her her first set of pearls, and when she passed away.
00:12:16
I got those pearls back.
00:12:18
I'm a dude.
00:12:19
I don't wear pearls.
00:12:22
But those pearls mean the world to me because I bought my mom her first set of pearls and I didn't even give those pearls.
00:12:31
My wife, my wife knows I have him.
00:12:33
Um, we don't have any Children, We don't have a daughter and all likely that I'm going to give them to my niece at some point.
00:12:42
So, yes, there are certain things that I have of my mom's that I can't imagine selling, but I have no idea how much of Kobe's items his parents have.
00:12:54
You know, when someone accomplishes what he does or what he did, they're bound to be a number of championship rings, banners, Ah, jerseys, sneakers, all kinds of things.
00:13:09
I don't I don't know if they could have held onto all these things, maybe they could head.
00:13:15
Maybe they could have given it to other family members.
00:13:19
Of course, once you start doing that, you know at some point items are going to start it auction block when you start giving it, giving it out to more more family members.
00:13:27
I don't know.
00:13:28
I don't know what the answer is, except to say, we don't know what their situation is, and so it's probably best that we don't jump to a conclusion and we let this family continue to grieve.
00:13:39
Ah, whether be Vanessa and their Children or be Joe and Pam and Kobe siblings or be the rest of us were who are fans will support at this man for the 20 years he was in the purple and gold and did the three years that we had him once he retired.
00:13:57
But let's not pass judgment, man, because none of us really know what's going on.
00:14:02
So let me step down on my soapbox.
00:14:04
I know you all are probably tired of hearing me preach, but what I really wanted to, um, deliver that, you know, on a more serious note, um, and just take a breather and let these people grieve.
00:14:18
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