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if clutch points.
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Obviously there is only one topic to cover this morning, and that is the last dance.
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Michael Jordan.
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The last dance like Jordan, The last of what we have seen going on over there.
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Ah, as we dive in on the 1st 2 parts of this 10 part do***entary Siri's It launches last night.
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Hopefully everyone a chance to watch it live and the article coming fast and furious.
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So we're gonna dive in on here.
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First is at the start of that 86 season following winning rookie of the Year honors.
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Michael Jordan suffers that injury and then has to deal with the prospect of not being able to get back on the floor.
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But before we dive in on that, let's just rewind it back a little bit weird.
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Uncle, there's plenty of things we're gonna touch on.
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We're gonna have more streams, probably this afternoon from some of the other guys on our platform as well.
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But you back it up just briefly and think about some of the things that we learned in this do***entary.
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You go back to Michael Jordan as a young kid in his own family, potentially being the second best basketball player to his brother early in his life and the detail little bit around his home life.
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And his father obviously worked for G all the year in that direction.
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Michael, as his father loving, says, We'll shoot back in the house to go be with his mother.
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But he plays basketball young age, and they highlight how the other parents both wanted them to be involved in organized sports, keep them, keep them occupied, keep them active.
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One of the unfortunate aspects that comes out in this, obviously, and it's not not a shocking surprise, but, you know, in Raleigh, North Carolina, you're talking about racism and that being an issue that that Michael and his family had to potentially contend with.
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So, you know, Michael Jordan speaks the idea of his mindset being, I wanted to make myself something beyond that, play something beyond some of those issues that occurred that get yourself out of that situation.
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So as a young as a young player played basketball baseball as well.
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But in basketball terms, he's cut from his sop****re high school basketball team.
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Ah, it has to come home and deal with that is his mother as it's highlighted as well, trying to console him.
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And I don't know that if you want to achieve that, if you want to get back on the basketball court, get the work.
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And that summer ends up being him with the basketball attached to his hand, it could not separate him between that, and he worked hard and able to get himself back on the team, able to accelerate his play, able to improve himself.
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And then you think about his college.
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His college career is well, initially comes on, and it's not that he doesn't end up.
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Leading them to a championship is freshman year, but he still had a lot of improving to do as they highlighted the do***entary as well.
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But it is. It's his mentality.
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It's his mental approach, where it is what I need to improve, teach me how to improve.
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And now I'm gonna go ahead.
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I'm gonna execute that.
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So being able to take in that information, obviously having some of the natural ability that Michael Jordan had, but then also the mental makeup to say I'm going to take this criticism, I'm gonna take the information I'm going to apply it.
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I'm going to learn it.
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I'm going to execute it.
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And then I'm gonna take it to that next level because I am also Michael Jordan.
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But you know, then 10.
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Then he goes to the track.
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That hands of getting passed over on the 1st 2 selections and some of the clips that they highlighted in the do***entary about how players coaches around the league right saying it, even their own organizations, saying, Well, it's 66 What can we really expect from him? You know, a lot of the players saying, I don't think that a guy of his size is going to be able to lead an N b A team while he may be a good player, This is not the guy that you build a franchise around necessarily, and that gets completely blown out the door in his freshman year, immediately jumps and obviously makes that statement.
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And as they highlight as well, by the time you move through and he has that huge performance where he brings them back late in the game, when they're down, they're down by thinks 10 going to the fourth quarter.
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He pulls them back in that one and that's kind of where that standard gets laid out, right? I am going to be the best player on this team.
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So regardless of whether or not I'm a rookie, regardless of whether or not there's veterans on this team who have been established, this is going to be the mentality on bringing the court every single day.
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And because of that, I'm not going to allow us to lose games.
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I'm going to be the driving engine behind this, and everyone basically had to.
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Whether it was through his mentality and attitude and then also from is just pure skill and talent.
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Stample.
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They have to get on board with that.
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So the ability that also change the makeup of the Chicago Bulls and change the mentality of a franchise that was desperately in need of something like that.
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It's also something that he executes before we get into this 86 injury and his response to the load management.
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It's also worth noting that they're watching him, you know, the young footage of him There is just something incredibly humble about him.
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He has that little bit of a smirk to him where I think you know he knows how good he can be, but but very earnest.
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And all in all of the footage that you see of him in terms of what he hopes to accomplish, what he wants to be able to chief for the Chicago Bulls and for his own career.
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Ah, and you know that that fire is right there under the surface and building for him.
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But that was just an interesting thing, T.
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C.
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Now you think about its 2020 and we're talking about in the early eighties going back 30 years, right? And seeing seeing Michael Jordan in his n b A infancy as he starts to make a name for himself and some of those beautiful and they black and white them for the sake of the do***entary but just him stretching out on the floor, right? And the commentary around him being a physical specimen, um, you know, just had an engine that didn't stop that.
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That classic mentioned of saying he was a guy that could turn it off and on, but never turned it off.
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Right? Every single game, every single play was about making it, making the shot, improving the chances for the team.
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And there was there was nothing else other than that.
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Now it comes off winning that rookie of the year honor, and that's absolutely the four go bulls and all the sudden get to pivot from saying, Well, we took a nice player.
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We didn't know what was gonna take beyond that on all the sudden You guys, maybe you're gonna have a superstar on your hands.
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86 season comes, he suffers.
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The injury comes down awkwardly and basically that's it, right.
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Get shut down.
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And as he starts to enter into that rehab phase, you broken the broken heel.
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Broken ankle area has to get surgery on it.
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And then he's sitting out and they show that footage from the sideline trying to shoot shots from the bench from the baseline, even it with a cast on on his foot.
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And at one point he basically goes and says, Hey, you know, I want to be able to start to do something a little bit more, and it's too difficult to do it here around the team, you know, you want to restrict me a little bit.
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Let me go back to college.
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Let me get some work in.
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Let me get inside the pool.
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Do some of the resistance training so I could just start to do something.
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Let me let me have activities to build out my schedule cause I'm gonna Otherwise I'm gonna go stir crazy.
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They allow him to go do that.
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And then once he gets there, it's the slow build and he gets into a little bit of the water training and he says, And then he kind of uses it to one on one.
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And then it extends itself to two on two than three on 34 on four.
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And before you know it, he's playing full five on five basketball.
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Unbeknownst to the Chicago Bulls organization and from their standpoint, you have to probably understand, right? You're coming in and saying This is a talented, retracted the previous year, Rookie of the year.
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He takes an injury.
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We don't want to risk him furthering that.
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We don't want to risk him, you know, having a setback in his rehab that potentially could cost him further down the road.
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So he ends up kind of sneaking off and getting to play some basketball.
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And then he comes back and It's the mentality of Get me back on the court.
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I want to be a part of this and they start to say, Well, listen, you know, we're talking about There's a There's a 10% chance that if you get back out on the floor right now, you're going to further injure yourself and potentially end your career and Michael Jordan's responses.
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So what you're telling me is there's a 90% chance that I'm totally fine and you know the perspective off.
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And I bet the great correlation to make is Kevin Durant when he was with Golden State suffers that injury, and all he wants to do is get back on the floor and win and help contribute to his team and the outside perception, which is something that's definitely different from a media coverage perspective now today, about the pressure to get back on the floor. No.
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One.
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No one was necessarily looking at Michael Jordan in his second season and saying, You need to be back out there with speculation.
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No, What are you going to do already gonna get back on the floor? It really was.
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You could he could have stayed off the court the entire season, however long it took to recover and had no issue or taken no flak but the Kevin Durant's narrow right pushing him wondering, Is he gonna come back? What is it going to take? And then, of course, he comes back and just absolutely destroys himself and shuts down again for the entire season and extends over.
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The range of that season stands over into his time now, obviously, with the Brooklyn Nets.
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But that's the mentality you expect from superstars, right? You want not what you want them to, but that, I think, is a component of the personality that it takes toe.
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Want to be the best in any sport, whatever.
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You're trying to get in any act in any act of life, any walk of life if you want to be the greatest, added, It's about persevering through things right, overcoming the adversity of it.
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So Michael Jordan looked at and said, Yes, I've taken an injury, but how soon can I get back? How quickly can I recover? And how quickly can I get back to trying to win games? That's all I care about.
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I care about winning games. I want win games.
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I want to be on the court and also that idea if you had that mindset of wanting to make the playoffs every year as well.
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So they start out by telling him that and his side note to it as well in the do***entary is everyone's looking at the negative, right? The potential of what could go wrong.
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And you know, you.
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I'm a glass half full guy, like I see it as, Yes, I Is there a chance that I could get injured? Yeah, there's also a chance that I could be totally healthy and get back out there and help this team win games.
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And that's where my mind is, and that's what I want to do.
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So you know, then the great one is.
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If I gave if I said I had a headache and I had nine pills that would cure your headache and one pill that would kill you, would you take a pill? And that that cut in the do***entary back to Jordan really goes, depends on how f in bad the headache was again.
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There is nothing inside of his mind.
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You can tell him the risk of death in the hypothetical scenario, and he's saying, What kind of pain in my in what are we talking about? What is it going to take for me to be able to get back out there and do what I love and help help this team help this organization? So they come to the agreement, probably begrudgingly, to say, We'll put you on a minutes Restriction starts out there.
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It's seven minutes a game, and it is a is a stopwatch scenario for Michael Jordan, where as soon as that hits seven minute mark, he's off the floor.
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It doesn't matter what where there are important.
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And he said he saw the head coach give me that.
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Give me the most important seven minutes you can give me as extends out to 14 give you the most important 14 minutes of any game that you can give me so that I can have the highest possible impact on the game's on, potentially helping us win some of these competition of some.
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These games are red.
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It gets to the point now down the stretch where they have an opportunity to make the playoffs.
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He's playing now.
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In the 14 minute restriction, he gets pulled out with 35 seconds left to go in the game, and they're trailing by one.
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And this is really talk about. This is 86.
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This is old.
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This is the second year of his MBA career, and it's interesting to think about how this has already started to create that divide between ownership between management and then between him as a player, because all he's thinking about is wanting to win games and icy hot as Michael Jordan highlights there, it's he looks at it and says the organization is is worried about losing.
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Start trying to lose games, trying to get a higher draft pick, trying to improve the roster, thinking about offseason maneuvers.
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He may want better players with them.
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Or, you know, it's a quality team around him, obviously, But nothing for Michael Jordan trumps the idea of winning basketball games that that is 860.
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12 and three on his list of priorities.
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So they find themselves down by one with 35 seconds when they call that time out, and he has hit his 14 minute mark.
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He's begging the coach to put him back in, and now you have an additional layer off the head coach at the time is getting the pressure of.
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If I put you back in this game, I'm going to get fired.
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So you know the layers that this organization is creating around and listen.
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Don't get me wrong there.
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There is some element off teams need to save players from theirselves at times, right? We've heard we've heard that over and over again.
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But to tie it into Kevin Durant once more, he had that opportunity come back.
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There's a case to be made that Golden State should have said, No, you're shut down.
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You're not coming back now.
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The fact that Kevin Durant is moving towards an off season where he's going to be a free agent obviously plays another layer in that particular scenario.
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Because if you're Golden State, you're trying to get the most out of what could be the last stand here for Kevin Durant.
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And if you read the tea leaves in that situation, Kevin Durant.
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It felt like it was going to be on the on the outs and we've had some conversations here in conjunction with clutch points, talking about the relationships there with Steph Curry.
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Ah, homegrown talent for Golden State, certainly of the player that the fan beast gets behind.
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And as you come in as a quote hired Gun or you come over from the team that had just lost to the Golden State Warriors the year prior, can you ever fully ingratiate yourself? Do you ever fully feel appreciated by a family? So as that season's winding down and the senses, Kevin Durant is going to be moving on from the Golden State Warriors when he wants to come back from the injury? There's a lot less hesitation there.
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Right from from from an organizational standpoint, you want you want to be healthy, you want him to be well protected and we know on the back end, general managers owners came out and said, Obviously, this isn't what we want to see play out.
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We don't want to see Kevin Durant get injured like this, but the risk reward of him getting back on the floor and trying to help this team win a championship was worth it from organizational standpoint and then worth it from a personal standpoint for Kevin Durant, we know how that plays out other layer there that you can think about as well is that you're talking about organizationally, The Golden State Warriors were in wind.
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Now load right.
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We're in championship caliber team here between Draymond and Clay and staff and Kevin Durant and having won championships year in the years prior.
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So you know they're ready.
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Tow win in that moment right then and there.
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Now flip back to 1986.
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I'm sure Jordan is probably thinking he can win every game, right? He can go to the playoffs. He can make.
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He can make these runs and maybe have a chance at a championship sooner than people expect.
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So that's still the same mental makeup from a player perspective that the layer of higher is from organizationally.
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What is your responsibility to this team and to the organization to say, How do we best manage this right? GM, GM Kraus, Jerry Crafts? How are we going to manage what Michael Jordan wants to accomplish? Where we realistically think that this team is right now and what we want to accomplish long term? So at the end of the day, he does not get back into that game.
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Paxton, ultimately with a little one handed floater in the lane knocks that down.
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They win the game, they go to the class and you see the bench coverage there.
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Jordan lated.
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He's up, He's up.
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He's up off the bench.
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He's hugging packs that he's celebrating with his team because they know they're going to go.
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And as you move into it, the another great little inside that they give you is from Larry Bird because they go into that playoff series against the Celtics.
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And even though they lose that Siri's, there are those performances, right? 63 point performance, I think in that in that first game is well, where, even though they're able to win this game as it is, Larry highlights and at first in the first match up because we got the last shot.
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That's why we were able to win that one.
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If you were.
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If you gave Jordan the last shot in those games, the Celtics could've been on the other side of it.
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And again when you when you take that bigger perspective of the N B.
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A.
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It is always about the teams that you come up against as you're trying to rise and we know that There's the bad boy Pistons lying out there, and the Boston Celtics still have Larry Bird and McHale in that group of players.
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So you know you're still talking about an aero basketball where there is other other teams, other talents.
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But as, Ah, Magic Johnson also highlights there.
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These guys saw it.
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All these guys saw it then he may not have the team yet in Chicago, but Michael is going to be the guy that can turn this franchise and take it to a championship level.
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And it's gonna happen sooner than later.
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Maybe luckily for them, it wasn't gonna be in 86.
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But even in that series alone, Larry Bird, you know, acknowledges that.
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Yep, you saw it.
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And listen.
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It's hard to deny when you see those that scoring performances.
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But this was another level of guy.
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You knew that he was going to be breathing down your neck soon, and so they're lucky to get out of there.
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Maybe you could say beating Chicago in that series, but it automatically lays down that foundation from a lot of different layers here.
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It communicates from on a personal level, Jordan's taking that next step playoff playoff experience, obviously gaining more of that.
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Knowing that he can score at that type of level in a playoff game against a talented team like Boston can can literally take over a game that's important.
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It communicates to the organization that, Hey, we can get here a little bit further along a little bit, a lot sooner than we anticipated.
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We had to make some moves, and obviously Jerry Cross doesn't do that.
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But all of a sudden, we we can start to turn the page here on this franchise, maybe a couple of years ahead of schedule.
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Few years I've had a schedule, even when you think back to the draft and maybe what their perspective was when they initially drafted Jordan.
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So all of a sudden, these things ratchet up a little bit behind the scenes.
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The fallout from this, though, is Jordan.
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Jordan takes away from that, and this is where it's a little bit interesting.
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And I think if you go back to the preview on this do***entary and Jordan saying, I wonder, you know, I don't want people to hate me are worried people will hate me.
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On the back end of this, I'm sure there's plenty more that we're going to see between now and the conclusion of this do***entary series.
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That'll that'll be more of the highlight things when we talk about the concerns that he has.
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But that idea of saying this is where the rift begins Jordan wants to be playing ownership.
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Management doesn't want to let him.
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He takes that as being You DOn't wanna win games.
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You'd rather be losing and again improving draft picks, et cetera.
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And all I want to be doing is helping this team win games that automatically, that creates the rift, the pressure that gets put on the head coach.
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Well, fire the head coach.
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If he starts you, that's how we're going.
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T o manage you being able to get in the game because otherwise, everyone on the court in the locker room in that huddle, they're going to They're gonna fly.
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They're gonna play him because the other The other little footnote there was after they won that game where packs and hits the game winning shot.
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Jerry Crafts comes down to the locker room and the door's locked.
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He's not going to get in, and they're not letting him because that is the risk that you know that now you've created.
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And the weird part is where the interesting part is is well, that this starts early in Jordan's career, and then we know is they highlighted Part two.
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With Pippen coming in, then Pittman has his own set of issues as well, and he really he really pushes that even further when it comes to Jerry Crafts, an ownership in the latter stages when they jump ahead to the 97 98 season.
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But the foundation gets set there in Year two that there's going to be issues here if it isn't all about winning and you know, 91 obviously a handful of years away from from winning the first championship going on that first threepeat run.
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But it's really surprising to see that there's a disconnect that starts.
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They're very, very early in this relationship for Michael Jordan and again as we unfold the next handful of episodes here, we have to wait a week before we get to see Parts three and four of this do***entary.
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It's going to be a you see how that how that relationship that continues to disconnect and it's been really exciting to watch the pivots from.
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Let's go back to where Michael Jordan started from and then bring you up and show you this little bit of the beginning of the 97 98 season and where this roster was, where Michael Jordan is physically, where he is mentally.
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Now let's take you back and talk about his early career injury and where that starts to build this, these issues within the organization and now as a dove in on that second part with Scottie Pippen and where he comes from, and the position that he gets put in the choices that he makes from a contract perspective.
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So, ah, if yeah, you nothing.
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What if indications set stock urinary butt *** with a friend of mine and just completely overwhelmed by the level of information that I'm getting? The connection of nostalgia back to those that mid mid late nineties for me as a 10 to 13 year old kid watching Jordan and just being blown away by what he was doing on the court and not necessarily having those memories of what was happening in and around the team after that 96 97 season, and what it looked like in the contract concerns and all this stuff.
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So I mean, as as they like to say, a lot to unpack in this do***entary.
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It's going to be very interesting to see where they pick up in Part three.
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You you want something to watch as Faras sports go hose? This could not be any more satisfying, but we thank you for checking in with us here on behalf of clutch points and SportsCastr, You will get more cover in and around the last dance do***entary coming in this afternoon from Matt Brooks, Brian Egan, Keith McPherson.
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So stay tuned for that as well.
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Thank you for checking in with myself at a more Rex.
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We will be back in.
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Man, this is too good.
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I cannot wait for the next one.
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Thank you for joining us.
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We'll catch up with you soon.
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Bulls’ Michael Jordan’s response to being asked to load manage in 1986

NBA teams nowadays employ a rather controversial strategy in trying to keep their top players healthy so as to help them stack up wins in the long run. Now, players can “load manage” or in more common terms, take a rest. Before, when a player sits out, it’s because he’s badly hurt or is dealing […]

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if clutch points.
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Obviously there is only one topic to cover this morning, and that is the last dance.
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Michael Jordan.
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The last dance like Jordan, The last of what we have seen going on over there.
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Ah, as we dive in on the 1st 2 parts of this 10 part do***entary Siri's It launches last night.
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Hopefully everyone a chance to watch it live and the article coming fast and furious.
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So we're gonna dive in on here.
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First is at the start of that 86 season following winning rookie of the Year honors.
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Michael Jordan suffers that injury and then has to deal with the prospect of not being able to get back on the floor.
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But before we dive in on that, let's just rewind it back a little bit weird.
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Uncle, there's plenty of things we're gonna touch on.
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We're gonna have more streams, probably this afternoon from some of the other guys on our platform as well.
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But you back it up just briefly and think about some of the things that we learned in this do***entary.
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You go back to Michael Jordan as a young kid in his own family, potentially being the second best basketball player to his brother early in his life and the detail little bit around his home life.
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And his father obviously worked for G all the year in that direction.
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Michael, as his father loving, says, We'll shoot back in the house to go be with his mother.
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But he plays basketball young age, and they highlight how the other parents both wanted them to be involved in organized sports, keep them, keep them occupied, keep them active.
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One of the unfortunate aspects that comes out in this, obviously, and it's not not a shocking surprise, but, you know, in Raleigh, North Carolina, you're talking about racism and that being an issue that that Michael and his family had to potentially contend with.
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So, you know, Michael Jordan speaks the idea of his mindset being, I wanted to make myself something beyond that, play something beyond some of those issues that occurred that get yourself out of that situation.
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So as a young as a young player played basketball baseball as well.
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But in basketball terms, he's cut from his sop****re high school basketball team.
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Ah, it has to come home and deal with that is his mother as it's highlighted as well, trying to console him.
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And I don't know that if you want to achieve that, if you want to get back on the basketball court, get the work.
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And that summer ends up being him with the basketball attached to his hand, it could not separate him between that, and he worked hard and able to get himself back on the team, able to accelerate his play, able to improve himself.
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And then you think about his college.
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His college career is well, initially comes on, and it's not that he doesn't end up.
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Leading them to a championship is freshman year, but he still had a lot of improving to do as they highlighted the do***entary as well.
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But it is. It's his mentality.
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It's his mental approach, where it is what I need to improve, teach me how to improve.
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And now I'm gonna go ahead.
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I'm gonna execute that.
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So being able to take in that information, obviously having some of the natural ability that Michael Jordan had, but then also the mental makeup to say I'm going to take this criticism, I'm gonna take the information I'm going to apply it.
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I'm going to learn it.
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I'm going to execute it.
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And then I'm gonna take it to that next level because I am also Michael Jordan.
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But you know, then 10.
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Then he goes to the track.
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That hands of getting passed over on the 1st 2 selections and some of the clips that they highlighted in the do***entary about how players coaches around the league right saying it, even their own organizations, saying, Well, it's 66 What can we really expect from him? You know, a lot of the players saying, I don't think that a guy of his size is going to be able to lead an N b A team while he may be a good player, This is not the guy that you build a franchise around necessarily, and that gets completely blown out the door in his freshman year, immediately jumps and obviously makes that statement.
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And as they highlight as well, by the time you move through and he has that huge performance where he brings them back late in the game, when they're down, they're down by thinks 10 going to the fourth quarter.
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He pulls them back in that one and that's kind of where that standard gets laid out, right? I am going to be the best player on this team.
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So regardless of whether or not I'm a rookie, regardless of whether or not there's veterans on this team who have been established, this is going to be the mentality on bringing the court every single day.
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And because of that, I'm not going to allow us to lose games.
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I'm going to be the driving engine behind this, and everyone basically had to.
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Whether it was through his mentality and attitude and then also from is just pure skill and talent.
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Stample.
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They have to get on board with that.
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So the ability that also change the makeup of the Chicago Bulls and change the mentality of a franchise that was desperately in need of something like that.
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It's also something that he executes before we get into this 86 injury and his response to the load management.
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It's also worth noting that they're watching him, you know, the young footage of him There is just something incredibly humble about him.
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He has that little bit of a smirk to him where I think you know he knows how good he can be, but but very earnest.
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And all in all of the footage that you see of him in terms of what he hopes to accomplish, what he wants to be able to chief for the Chicago Bulls and for his own career.
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Ah, and you know that that fire is right there under the surface and building for him.
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But that was just an interesting thing, T.
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C.
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Now you think about its 2020 and we're talking about in the early eighties going back 30 years, right? And seeing seeing Michael Jordan in his n b A infancy as he starts to make a name for himself and some of those beautiful and they black and white them for the sake of the do***entary but just him stretching out on the floor, right? And the commentary around him being a physical specimen, um, you know, just had an engine that didn't stop that.
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That classic mentioned of saying he was a guy that could turn it off and on, but never turned it off.
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Right? Every single game, every single play was about making it, making the shot, improving the chances for the team.
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And there was there was nothing else other than that.
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Now it comes off winning that rookie of the year honor, and that's absolutely the four go bulls and all the sudden get to pivot from saying, Well, we took a nice player.
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We didn't know what was gonna take beyond that on all the sudden You guys, maybe you're gonna have a superstar on your hands.
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86 season comes, he suffers.
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The injury comes down awkwardly and basically that's it, right.
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Get shut down.
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And as he starts to enter into that rehab phase, you broken the broken heel.
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Broken ankle area has to get surgery on it.
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And then he's sitting out and they show that footage from the sideline trying to shoot shots from the bench from the baseline, even it with a cast on on his foot.
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And at one point he basically goes and says, Hey, you know, I want to be able to start to do something a little bit more, and it's too difficult to do it here around the team, you know, you want to restrict me a little bit.
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Let me go back to college.
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Let me get some work in.
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Let me get inside the pool.
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Do some of the resistance training so I could just start to do something.
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Let me let me have activities to build out my schedule cause I'm gonna Otherwise I'm gonna go stir crazy.
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They allow him to go do that.
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And then once he gets there, it's the slow build and he gets into a little bit of the water training and he says, And then he kind of uses it to one on one.
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And then it extends itself to two on two than three on 34 on four.
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And before you know it, he's playing full five on five basketball.
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Unbeknownst to the Chicago Bulls organization and from their standpoint, you have to probably understand, right? You're coming in and saying This is a talented, retracted the previous year, Rookie of the year.
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He takes an injury.
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We don't want to risk him furthering that.
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We don't want to risk him, you know, having a setback in his rehab that potentially could cost him further down the road.
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So he ends up kind of sneaking off and getting to play some basketball.
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And then he comes back and It's the mentality of Get me back on the court.
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I want to be a part of this and they start to say, Well, listen, you know, we're talking about There's a There's a 10% chance that if you get back out on the floor right now, you're going to further injure yourself and potentially end your career and Michael Jordan's responses.
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So what you're telling me is there's a 90% chance that I'm totally fine and you know the perspective off.
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And I bet the great correlation to make is Kevin Durant when he was with Golden State suffers that injury, and all he wants to do is get back on the floor and win and help contribute to his team and the outside perception, which is something that's definitely different from a media coverage perspective now today, about the pressure to get back on the floor. No.
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One.
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No one was necessarily looking at Michael Jordan in his second season and saying, You need to be back out there with speculation.
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No, What are you going to do already gonna get back on the floor? It really was.
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You could he could have stayed off the court the entire season, however long it took to recover and had no issue or taken no flak but the Kevin Durant's narrow right pushing him wondering, Is he gonna come back? What is it going to take? And then, of course, he comes back and just absolutely destroys himself and shuts down again for the entire season and extends over.
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The range of that season stands over into his time now, obviously, with the Brooklyn Nets.
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But that's the mentality you expect from superstars, right? You want not what you want them to, but that, I think, is a component of the personality that it takes toe.
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Want to be the best in any sport, whatever.
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You're trying to get in any act in any act of life, any walk of life if you want to be the greatest, added, It's about persevering through things right, overcoming the adversity of it.
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So Michael Jordan looked at and said, Yes, I've taken an injury, but how soon can I get back? How quickly can I recover? And how quickly can I get back to trying to win games? That's all I care about.
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I care about winning games. I want win games.
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I want to be on the court and also that idea if you had that mindset of wanting to make the playoffs every year as well.
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So they start out by telling him that and his side note to it as well in the do***entary is everyone's looking at the negative, right? The potential of what could go wrong.
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And you know, you.
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I'm a glass half full guy, like I see it as, Yes, I Is there a chance that I could get injured? Yeah, there's also a chance that I could be totally healthy and get back out there and help this team win games.
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And that's where my mind is, and that's what I want to do.
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So you know, then the great one is.
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If I gave if I said I had a headache and I had nine pills that would cure your headache and one pill that would kill you, would you take a pill? And that that cut in the do***entary back to Jordan really goes, depends on how f in bad the headache was again.
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There is nothing inside of his mind.
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You can tell him the risk of death in the hypothetical scenario, and he's saying, What kind of pain in my in what are we talking about? What is it going to take for me to be able to get back out there and do what I love and help help this team help this organization? So they come to the agreement, probably begrudgingly, to say, We'll put you on a minutes Restriction starts out there.
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It's seven minutes a game, and it is a is a stopwatch scenario for Michael Jordan, where as soon as that hits seven minute mark, he's off the floor.
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It doesn't matter what where there are important.
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And he said he saw the head coach give me that.
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Give me the most important seven minutes you can give me as extends out to 14 give you the most important 14 minutes of any game that you can give me so that I can have the highest possible impact on the game's on, potentially helping us win some of these competition of some.
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These games are red.
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It gets to the point now down the stretch where they have an opportunity to make the playoffs.
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He's playing now.
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In the 14 minute restriction, he gets pulled out with 35 seconds left to go in the game, and they're trailing by one.
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And this is really talk about. This is 86.
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This is old.
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This is the second year of his MBA career, and it's interesting to think about how this has already started to create that divide between ownership between management and then between him as a player, because all he's thinking about is wanting to win games and icy hot as Michael Jordan highlights there, it's he looks at it and says the organization is is worried about losing.
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Start trying to lose games, trying to get a higher draft pick, trying to improve the roster, thinking about offseason maneuvers.
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He may want better players with them.
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Or, you know, it's a quality team around him, obviously, But nothing for Michael Jordan trumps the idea of winning basketball games that that is 860.
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12 and three on his list of priorities.
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So they find themselves down by one with 35 seconds when they call that time out, and he has hit his 14 minute mark.
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He's begging the coach to put him back in, and now you have an additional layer off the head coach at the time is getting the pressure of.
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If I put you back in this game, I'm going to get fired.
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So you know the layers that this organization is creating around and listen.
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Don't get me wrong there.
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There is some element off teams need to save players from theirselves at times, right? We've heard we've heard that over and over again.
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But to tie it into Kevin Durant once more, he had that opportunity come back.
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There's a case to be made that Golden State should have said, No, you're shut down.
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You're not coming back now.
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The fact that Kevin Durant is moving towards an off season where he's going to be a free agent obviously plays another layer in that particular scenario.
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Because if you're Golden State, you're trying to get the most out of what could be the last stand here for Kevin Durant.
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And if you read the tea leaves in that situation, Kevin Durant.
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It felt like it was going to be on the on the outs and we've had some conversations here in conjunction with clutch points, talking about the relationships there with Steph Curry.
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Ah, homegrown talent for Golden State, certainly of the player that the fan beast gets behind.
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And as you come in as a quote hired Gun or you come over from the team that had just lost to the Golden State Warriors the year prior, can you ever fully ingratiate yourself? Do you ever fully feel appreciated by a family? So as that season's winding down and the senses, Kevin Durant is going to be moving on from the Golden State Warriors when he wants to come back from the injury? There's a lot less hesitation there.
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Right from from from an organizational standpoint, you want you want to be healthy, you want him to be well protected and we know on the back end, general managers owners came out and said, Obviously, this isn't what we want to see play out.
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We don't want to see Kevin Durant get injured like this, but the risk reward of him getting back on the floor and trying to help this team win a championship was worth it from organizational standpoint and then worth it from a personal standpoint for Kevin Durant, we know how that plays out other layer there that you can think about as well is that you're talking about organizationally, The Golden State Warriors were in wind.
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Now load right.
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We're in championship caliber team here between Draymond and Clay and staff and Kevin Durant and having won championships year in the years prior.
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So you know they're ready.
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Tow win in that moment right then and there.
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Now flip back to 1986.
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I'm sure Jordan is probably thinking he can win every game, right? He can go to the playoffs. He can make.
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He can make these runs and maybe have a chance at a championship sooner than people expect.
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So that's still the same mental makeup from a player perspective that the layer of higher is from organizationally.
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What is your responsibility to this team and to the organization to say, How do we best manage this right? GM, GM Kraus, Jerry Crafts? How are we going to manage what Michael Jordan wants to accomplish? Where we realistically think that this team is right now and what we want to accomplish long term? So at the end of the day, he does not get back into that game.
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Paxton, ultimately with a little one handed floater in the lane knocks that down.
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They win the game, they go to the class and you see the bench coverage there.
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Jordan lated.
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He's up, He's up.
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He's up off the bench.
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He's hugging packs that he's celebrating with his team because they know they're going to go.
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And as you move into it, the another great little inside that they give you is from Larry Bird because they go into that playoff series against the Celtics.
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And even though they lose that Siri's, there are those performances, right? 63 point performance, I think in that in that first game is well, where, even though they're able to win this game as it is, Larry highlights and at first in the first match up because we got the last shot.
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That's why we were able to win that one.
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If you were.
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If you gave Jordan the last shot in those games, the Celtics could've been on the other side of it.
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And again when you when you take that bigger perspective of the N B.
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A.
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It is always about the teams that you come up against as you're trying to rise and we know that There's the bad boy Pistons lying out there, and the Boston Celtics still have Larry Bird and McHale in that group of players.
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So you know you're still talking about an aero basketball where there is other other teams, other talents.
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But as, Ah, Magic Johnson also highlights there.
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These guys saw it.
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All these guys saw it then he may not have the team yet in Chicago, but Michael is going to be the guy that can turn this franchise and take it to a championship level.
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And it's gonna happen sooner than later.
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Maybe luckily for them, it wasn't gonna be in 86.
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But even in that series alone, Larry Bird, you know, acknowledges that.
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Yep, you saw it.
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And listen.
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It's hard to deny when you see those that scoring performances.
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But this was another level of guy.
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You knew that he was going to be breathing down your neck soon, and so they're lucky to get out of there.
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Maybe you could say beating Chicago in that series, but it automatically lays down that foundation from a lot of different layers here.
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It communicates from on a personal level, Jordan's taking that next step playoff playoff experience, obviously gaining more of that.
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Knowing that he can score at that type of level in a playoff game against a talented team like Boston can can literally take over a game that's important.
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It communicates to the organization that, Hey, we can get here a little bit further along a little bit, a lot sooner than we anticipated.
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We had to make some moves, and obviously Jerry Cross doesn't do that.
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But all of a sudden, we we can start to turn the page here on this franchise, maybe a couple of years ahead of schedule.
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Few years I've had a schedule, even when you think back to the draft and maybe what their perspective was when they initially drafted Jordan.
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So all of a sudden, these things ratchet up a little bit behind the scenes.
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The fallout from this, though, is Jordan.
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Jordan takes away from that, and this is where it's a little bit interesting.
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And I think if you go back to the preview on this do***entary and Jordan saying, I wonder, you know, I don't want people to hate me are worried people will hate me.
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On the back end of this, I'm sure there's plenty more that we're going to see between now and the conclusion of this do***entary series.
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That'll that'll be more of the highlight things when we talk about the concerns that he has.
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But that idea of saying this is where the rift begins Jordan wants to be playing ownership.
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Management doesn't want to let him.
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He takes that as being You DOn't wanna win games.
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You'd rather be losing and again improving draft picks, et cetera.
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And all I want to be doing is helping this team win games that automatically, that creates the rift, the pressure that gets put on the head coach.
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Well, fire the head coach.
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If he starts you, that's how we're going.
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T o manage you being able to get in the game because otherwise, everyone on the court in the locker room in that huddle, they're going to They're gonna fly.
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They're gonna play him because the other The other little footnote there was after they won that game where packs and hits the game winning shot.
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Jerry Crafts comes down to the locker room and the door's locked.
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He's not going to get in, and they're not letting him because that is the risk that you know that now you've created.
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And the weird part is where the interesting part is is well, that this starts early in Jordan's career, and then we know is they highlighted Part two.
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With Pippen coming in, then Pittman has his own set of issues as well, and he really he really pushes that even further when it comes to Jerry Crafts, an ownership in the latter stages when they jump ahead to the 97 98 season.
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But the foundation gets set there in Year two that there's going to be issues here if it isn't all about winning and you know, 91 obviously a handful of years away from from winning the first championship going on that first threepeat run.
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But it's really surprising to see that there's a disconnect that starts.
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They're very, very early in this relationship for Michael Jordan and again as we unfold the next handful of episodes here, we have to wait a week before we get to see Parts three and four of this do***entary.
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It's going to be a you see how that how that relationship that continues to disconnect and it's been really exciting to watch the pivots from.
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Let's go back to where Michael Jordan started from and then bring you up and show you this little bit of the beginning of the 97 98 season and where this roster was, where Michael Jordan is physically, where he is mentally.
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Now let's take you back and talk about his early career injury and where that starts to build this, these issues within the organization and now as a dove in on that second part with Scottie Pippen and where he comes from, and the position that he gets put in the choices that he makes from a contract perspective.
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So, ah, if yeah, you nothing.
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What if indications set stock urinary butt *** with a friend of mine and just completely overwhelmed by the level of information that I'm getting? The connection of nostalgia back to those that mid mid late nineties for me as a 10 to 13 year old kid watching Jordan and just being blown away by what he was doing on the court and not necessarily having those memories of what was happening in and around the team after that 96 97 season, and what it looked like in the contract concerns and all this stuff.
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So I mean, as as they like to say, a lot to unpack in this do***entary.
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It's going to be very interesting to see where they pick up in Part three.
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You you want something to watch as Faras sports go hose? This could not be any more satisfying, but we thank you for checking in with us here on behalf of clutch points and SportsCastr, You will get more cover in and around the last dance do***entary coming in this afternoon from Matt Brooks, Brian Egan, Keith McPherson.
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So stay tuned for that as well.
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Thank you for checking in with myself at a more Rex.
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We will be back in.
00:22:24
Man, this is too good.
00:22:25
I cannot wait for the next one.
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Thank you for joining us.
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We'll catch up with you soon.

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