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Kevin Durant Still on fire.
Kevin Durant, New Jersey That superstar Kevin Durant names ready to put down $50,000 tow, watch, tow watch and then bet on the fact that Oladipo would beat Lance Stephenson in a game of one on one question.
Would you also put in $50,000 to both? Watch Victor Oladipo play a game to 11 1 game to 11 shooting just ones.
No twos on a raft of $80,000 They're flying on a raft in the East River.
Mind you can I use like, uh, like Mario Kart coins 50 strapped with dollars.
You were leveraging your life savings.
Future life savings on ours on this game of one on one.
Um, let's argue I'm going to argue in favor of Lance Stephenson for the means that that's what I'm gonna do That, uh, keeping in mind, I think Big preface on this whole thing.
I don't think Lance Stephenson is.
I don't not only do I don't think he's particularly that is better than Victor Oladipo.
He's not even particularly that good.
Um, Azi commented on the actual mainstream.
He had one good year.
He had one good year.
Maybe very good one.
Yeah, I'm not very good.
Did you do a deep dive on the stats? I did not know.
I looked up all of the boat stuff because I realized I shouldn't just sit here the whole time and be like, Oh, yeah, that was like Lance Stephenson, big legend the whole time and then be like, But I think all the people would win like that's not That's not great debating.
So I'm coming at your neck today.
Uh, with this one.
Yes. Let Steven it's late.
Stevenson had a great year kind of fell apart in the playoffs, which is probably not what you want from a guy and one on one settings.
I know he's going off.
It's he's got confidence that I could use on a day to day basis.
You know, air guitars, finger points, finger wags, every little bit of of s talking, you know, every little bit of it.
But I you know, being the guy, the numbers guy in our little Nets community, I figured out how to go a little bit of stats and research on my guy Victor Oladipo, who I'm picking.
I was shocked to learn.
And now we have to preface this with victimology.
I'm looking at the version of Victor Allah Depot that wasn't all envy a guard years ago.
Obviously he was not that this year he was, in fact actually really well, really troublesome this year.
To watch people just correct me if I'm wrong was this story about Kevin Durant that he put $50,000 in a time capsule and buried it under under his middle school for in for a 2017 matchup? Or is this about today's match up? Victor Oladipo v Lance Stephenson Are we arguing that this match is happening tomorrow, where it is already above A couple more months to like, you know? I don't know, I guess. Like film Tic Tac's.
Um, find a couple months, I'll give you a couple months.
All right? So give him a couple months.
Let that let that quad.
I believe it was a quad injury.
Let that quantity a little more.
Let him get his legs under him.
Do some at home leg workouts, Some Bowflex, um, and and let him find himself again.
Find himself a new and we're getting back to the victor all a depot that we maybe not.
Maybe not the level of of an offensive player that he was in 2017.
I was actually funny, so I looked this up right before we got on, because I I wanted to be come with the numbers this time because that would be very on brand.
For for my Internet personality.
I didn't realize he was one of the best isolation players in the league.
Two years ago, do not remember that I remembered him.
Is this like transition force? But, well, that made me want to pick him a little bit more.
We obviously know what he is on defense.
Even this year, he was probably the Pacers like best individual defender coming off his injury.
I feel like that bodes well for a one on one setting.
You don't think of one on one as you know, an exciting battle of of really nice close outs and good footwork.
But in this setting for a guy like Lance Stephenson, who? Yes, he's got all the crossovers in the book not really that terrifying North to South, Um, he's a lot of times when he's making his move, he's just going left to right.
It's not even necessarily East to West, either.
It's sort of like it's a little bit just stands still, it seems, used to West.
He has the presents it as though it ceased to us, you know, as someone who's just a prolific to K stud.
I'm actually so about it, okay, but it's it's like watching me play, too, okay, just like it's in between animation of doing a durable thing.
Yeah, Yeah, but you know, you never know.
That stuff does work if you know, if Lance Stephenson.
So I think that this last even since advantage here he's a mental game.
Well, you know we can touch on each of those Individually.
I do want to set the stage here for just like talking about the archetype of the best one on one player, right? We talked about this in the last one, but I think it is important to note that, like, you know.
So, for example, like who wins in a one on one between using massive extremes here, Muggsy Bogues and Shaquille O'Neal, right? It's like whoever has the ball first kind of up and probably Shaquille O'Neal either way, but like that's a pretty big extreme.
But you see what I'm saying here, right? Like at that at the ends of the spectrum, you get some weird possibilities.
Now I think the reason why Kobe Bryant are AP is probably accurate and depicting himself as the best one on one player is because, on average, you know he's that he's 67 He's not giving up too much size, not giving up too much speed, and he's like, deadly skillful, you know, so that our vic black It's a perfect blunt.
So you have, like, the highest.
There's not, really, you know, he's not too far to get a side of the spectrum.
So puts him in a good position for just about any matchup, and that the added layer of like elite skill puts him above people in his own category, for the most part.
So that being said, I think that the Stevenson all the depot think falls to a little bit of that.
You know? Shack, Muggsy Bogues Spectrum.
With Lance Stephenson obviously being the Shack Force because he is muscular, he's a larger man, you know he's not.
You know, I think he's coming in like 2 42 50 You know, he's He's like it's beefy for that position.
Um, so a lot of ways in which you can play one on one includes being a jerk and playing volleyball and just backing your guy all the way down to the basket.
Now I think Oladipo has the benefit of playing defense against guys his size for the most part, and that's where you get those elite levels of defense.
I think you're giving up a lot of size there.
Mouse in the house.
I think Ian Stevenson will sniff that out immediately.
He knows that that's his thing.
And he's also a jerk, right? So he'll just keep going to it over and over again.
Sit on it, catches breath, every dribble the ball into dust for five minutes so that he doesn't get, you know, run around the court too much, right? And that's if I mean, if I'm him, that's my strategy, right? And I'm assuming that that's that.
That's the best strategy for him now again.
Do I think it's Lance? Stephenson is a better basketball player than Victor Oladipo.
If you ask me that, I say no, I again.
I don't think he's that good.
But, you know, I didn't have to be shacking Muggsy Bogues.
It could be George Mirror, Assan and Muggsy Bogues.
It could be it could be, You know, Manu Bone and Muggsy Bogues.
Height advantage was had.
Advantages are riel size advantages are really, you know, especially on one on one matchups.
So here's my thing.
I have to, I admit I definitely need to brush up on my Lance Stephenson history.
It's It's been a while, you know, Maybe I got a deep dive, that nice Ah, nice glass of red wine and Lance Stephenson.
Tonight might be the way to go, but I'm thinking from what I remember, you know, in an ideal world, he backs him down.
Just complete bully ball.
Dominant Prime Lance Stephenson The Lance Stephenson Stand Twitter accounts are going wild.
That's a perfect universe, right? From what I remember from Lance Stephenson, Back down Game is a big fan of the pain of the fadeaway.
Probably that's true.
And I'm just worried, like, you know, he's an irrational confidence guy.
That's the best way to describe them.
They're so there's different levels of being an irrational confidence guy.
There's the guys that pull it off with Lou Williams, Jamal Crawford and make a career out of that.
And then there's the other spectrum that fade out famously right away.
You know, I think Lance Stephenson's probably a little bit in the middle because he enjoyed some brief success in Indiana, which, by the way, we'll get into it a little bit where this thing takes place.
But, um, I think that the problem with him in this irrational confidence game is it's Ah, it's a scale.
The confidence rises, his competition.
You know, maybe a scale is in the best example.
No, it's a scarily.
Others, like there's two lines of Yeah, So it's, you know, it's It's like a charge of like, a church.
What's a good? You know, there's like a green that you need to hit, so he starts it.
Yellow charges up to Green. I'm gonna go story.
Too much goes into red, then that's when you run into problems.
And that's what I think.
What would happen with Lance Stephenson? You know, he makes a couple shots.
Maybe he's up early, maybe ease up 321 Things were looking good.
You know, Kevin Durant.
Uh, New Jersey's own is sweating and and, uh, and he's he's worried.
He's thinking, Oh, man, $50,000.
I'm Kevin Durant. I don't know.
I don't know if I'm gonna make it for a month.
Uh, you know, thin Nets money is gonna be It's gonna last like that.
Uh, I'm getting mother.
He is so set for like, uh, for sure.
But, you know, I there's a world where glanced even gets up early and and then all of a sudden, Lance Stephenson, he backs him down and he takes an off glass.
Stayed away shot.
It may actually miss the entire backboard completely.
And I think that that's that's one That bar of red.
We hit that bar of red of power up right there.
So And if I'm correct me if I'm wrong, what you're talking a little bit about is about the mental game, correct? Yes.
I think the mental game is his advantage and his disadvantage.
Let me give you also exhibit a of his of some of the advantages to his mental game. Okay.
Yep. If you if you will.
So here we have him the c b A currently.
OK, ok, that's him.
I think he's playing.
Um What is that Sharp? Yes, that could be mid rambling man.
Um, his is in the middle of a really solid air guitar.
So directly on the other side of this camera is someone hands and face rethinking their life's choices.
Why are they here? Where the in the c b A Getting roasted By Lance Stephenson so mercilessly what happened to me? Where did how did I end up here? That's that's what that person's thinking he might be on his team.
I hate to do this to you.
Meanwhile, this guy is just getting poked in the eye ball.
He's just because I blasted by lancing sticks.
He's getting finger blast by Lansing's mayor.
Um, this one is Lance Stephenson, shushing everybody, everybody including perspective.
Victor Oladipo This is the Holy Trinity of trolling on a basketball court right there.
You're poking, you're shushing and you're a retiring in some space man.
So I don't think Victor Oladipo is ready for this noise.
I don't think he's ever come anywhere close to someone so insane who's ready to Just like, you know, if he gets it, he wins that rochambeau.
He scores, rattles off the 1st 3 points and get to your point.
It's almost there.
It's like pushing its orange.
It's about to be read, but like there's another version of it where Oladipo gets triggered for the first time in his life and has no idea how to handle this.
Um, sorry about that.
Uh, so here's my Here's my thinking here.
What if so, Victor Oladipo famous for his golden voice.
What if he sings in in Lansky and Lance Stephenson sings in Allah depots face is that Is that the thief Ultimate f you like, think and act like stop the game, grab a mic and just, like do a little like six minutes ballot.
Um I mean, here's the thing.
If I thought that was in victory will depose character, I would say I would say that that Stevenson doing that? Victor Oladipo.
I see what you're saying. Yes, flips.
I think that says that's his way he wins is just a complete mental game.
Yeah, Yeah, I think so too.
Um and so, yes, I mean, like, that's advantage Stevenson again.
But like, to your point that is green crossing into red Um oh, you know that call back? Um, another thing t really touch on is one on one.
If you've ever played, it is some of the most exhausting basketball you could actually ever play.
That's that's true.
I think we need We would be doing everybody in the audience a disservice by not acknowledging that there is a clear difference in the endurance level of these two players.
I think of slave Stevenson.
It's a guy that gets winded.
I just think of him that way. I see him.
Wow, do a motor.
A motor jab, jab in the man's motor.
That's how I think of him.
Maybe that's wrong. Maybe that's incredibly baseless.
But that's that's my imagined.
I think Oladipo can run circles around Lance Stephenson on the treadmill A.
My crazy for thinking that no, Oladipo's not only a freak athlete, but great endurance.
You know, there's there's no worse is a quick aside, there's no worse, um, detriment to a player than being in saying that your motor isn't good. That's a tough one.
That is a tough one.
I think my dog is This is just a mugging.
If I was an N b a scout and I thought a guy's motor wasn't good, I just wouldn't draft him.
Well, that's just that's just how it works.
So this is That's a major one right there.
You're looking, but actually look, **** shot myself in the foot.
I can't be arguing.
I mean, yeah, you're I mean, if I'm really trying to win this argument, I would not have brought up this point.
Yeah, that's fair. Yeah.
Um, but again, I've already conceded right out of the gate that I don't I don't really I can't really defend a lot of these points.
Last point that I will defend to the death.
Okay to the death, the metaphysical game metaphysics.
Now, we talked about this in the previous one, and you brought about an amazing point where this thing actually takes place is incredibly relevant to who wins.
Please inform us more about that.
All right, so Lance Stephenson famously broke out as undrafted.
I believe player in Indiana it was great.
Uh, flamed out spectacularly in the playoffs.
You know, maybe not for the same reasons as J.
Smith, but definitely was the six man guy.
This energy guy that just didn't translate doesn't matter.
People are still coveting him.
He goes to charlotte, gets over, paid bounces around.
I was on the Lakers last year, which I forgot about until recently.
Um, I don't even know where else he was.
I'd have to go look at Memphis for a little while I was like Memphis's best player and like a really weird season where everybody got injured and they were like a seven seed, still kind of really didn't do anything.
Went back to Indiana for a brief period was awesome.
So my arguments is that if this is an Indiana, that's a major major advantage for our four Lance Stephenson.
Just because that is where basketball greatness just exudes from his celestial being, you know? But I would argue you could say the same for Victor All the Depot who has also only been good in Indiana.
Wow, he was not good.
Well, in Orlando.
Yeah, and that's That's a great point.
Like his one advantage is also Victor Oladipo's.
It's the perfect neutral zone.
Yeah, What is it about Indiana does that? I don't know.
I thought maybe I should go there.
You could almost say the same thing very, very nearly was about to be boy on Bogdanovich.
Just story to among among so many other Pacer legends.
Uh, there's another side of the metaphysical story.
Um, and that's the karmic universe.
Okay, there's a reason that the basketball gods have banished Lance Stephenson to the hindrance to Siberia, say the hinterlands of basketball in C B A.
Just get exceeded.
And the reason for that is not because he isn't a professional level bachelor party at the embassy levels.
It's because he, uh, he brought too much negative juju into his life and its sabotaged him.
And now he's reaping the the just deserves.
So I would say that in the metaphysical game advantage of the depot, the guy is just exuding kindness and generosity.
He make beautiful music.
He's got the voice of an angel humanitarian, a humanitarian, just a known good guy, you know? Yeah, across the board.
Uh, Stevenson, Not as much.
So for those reasons now, my God, I'm moving around too much for those reasons.
I'm going to say probably that the best ball God's will not see fit to let Kevin Duran lose his $50,000 so so that it's like the old the old thing you learn in youth leagues.
A sore winner not get his day.
That's actually saying should be, though.
That's pretty good, actually tattooed on my ribs, weirdly, for my basketball, that's that's Ah yes, a key part of the youth basketball slap that on the tunnel going out.
What was? It was sore.
Winner does not get his day.
That's pretty good. Great.
Um, on that note, take away from the one we have done it.
We have We have got to do Score.
Okay, what's the score? So, you know, I just did to rehash this one a little bit.
My my opinion has not changed us from the first dream.
I think that Lance Stephenson gets up early.
You know, I think maybe he starts of the ball.
The basketball gods giveth, and then the basketball gods take it later, but they give it him the opportunity to air guitar, you know, gets a couple shots and then gets his pocket picked embarrassingly by the just tremendous defender that Oladipo is and still is, never touches the ball and, you know, and all the depots.
He doesn't think he gets his buckets, he gets to the rim.
Uh, while Lance Stephenson is sulking after getting, you know, just eviscerated on, you know, with the ball in his hands.
I think that's what it is.
It's It's a mental game.
The mental game is his advantage.
And then it becomes his disadvantage.
So you know a lot of philosophical.
So look at this one.
I so many, so many.
It's it's, uh it is a ripe subject, to be sure.
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