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And with that Woking back into the one giant podcast here late on a Saturday night, we're actually going live on a SportsCastr platform utilising see a stream yard here to also be able to send this out live to our Facebook page as well.
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And as you can tell by the headlines, if you're over there on the SportsCastr network, we're talking about potentially those NFL draft, a trade down options that the New York Giants may be presented with and what that could look like.
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Ah, on Monday and and I just wrapped up doing our full post free agency seven rounds mark draft scenario for the New York Giants.
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We both operated off the same big board, and then we had opportunities to trade down in the first round, also had chances to make some other moves throughout, and we kind of diverged a little bit in terms of the players that we targeted positional needs that we went after as we worked our way through it, now be launching as of Monday, break that down into a two parter, if not Monday and Tuesday, maybe even Monday and Wednesday.
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We're going to be checking in with Zach from Giants 24 7 as well.
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So a little bit of a round table discussion reviewing what we did there and then ultimately probably talking a little bit about some of the areas that we wish we had addressed maybe earlier in the draft and maybe some opportunities that we felt like we missed out on for.
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For these, for the purposes of this, where we want to try to do is take a look at the draft and think about what the possibilities are for the Giants, especially at the top of the draft here.
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Fourth overall pick.
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We know that offensive tackle is a big need, obviously a lot of conversations around Isaiah Simmons.
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But what if we get presented with opportunities to trade back? What does it look like for us? And at one point, you have to take those opportunities on Consider about the extra assets you're going to get later in the first round of potentially in rounds throughout the 1st 2nd 3rd and even fourth rounds as well.
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So we'll do is we'll go ahead and share the page.
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Here we operate off fan speed, a website where they give you a great opportunity to go in there.
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You have a number of big boards to choose from from bleacher report.
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Fans speak, runs a couple of different guys there.
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Steve and Jake.
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You also have, I think, Matt Miller over a bleacher report.
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CBS also offers one as well through Josh Edwards, and that's the one that we went with, mostly because when you compare it to a cup whoa of the other ones out there taking a look at where Todd McShay has.
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Some people lined up immediate smell Keiper and then even just ESPN is general big boards as well You want to be is reasonably close to where you think some of these guys are going to go.
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So that way, when we work through these mock scenarios, it feels like we're catching, you know, a realistic option and not feeling like some guy just falling into our laps in the fifth round when it's fairly well known that they're going to go, you know, in the second or third.
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So we'll go ahead and also enlarge this up a little bit here.
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So basically what we're going to take a look at is I can go ahead and reboot this a handful of times.
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And the objective here for us is going to be to see what kind of offers come in for the New York Giants and whether or not we would want to take advantage of those or pass on them and stay.
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Ah, pat there at number four.
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So, as you can see, we're lined up here using the CBS Josh Edwards big board, we have a team needs just going through.
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Fans speak as far as that goes as well.
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The current official draft order, obviously, is where we're going to start.
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So let's dive into it here.
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And as it boots up, we could see initially and offer may come in immediately if in the event that it doesn't would just go ahead and reload this page up and I'm gonna do it a handful of times, the value there is that you're going to see every time that we run one of these scenarios, you'll catch to potential trade offers that you may get.
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So what is it? Go ahead and jump right in here is see Joe Burrows, Chase Edwards and there's Isaiah.
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Same.
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It's coming off the board at number three.
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So for me personally, I think now you talk about if you want to go offensive tackle.
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No, the phone doesn't ring and we don't get any opportunities to make a trade there.
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So while I reload this up, one of the things that we're concerned about is whether or not Isaiah Simmons is available for us.
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Has an option at that fourth overall pick.
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If he isn't, do we go ahead and automatically make you know, switch for ourselves and say we're going to go in a different direction? Would we select Simmons there if he is available? And if you're going to stand Pat, one of the issues with offensive lineman is that typically you don't see them taken this high in the draft, you know, historically.
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So you look at the rankings of these players, even though Tristram works skyrockets up that board, and I'll go ahead and pull this out of the way here for a moment and try to reboot this and get a couple of these offers to come our way.
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Tricia, where skyrockets due to the amazing combine that he has, and that's great.
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But he is an offensive lineman, really they're talking about him kicking into guard.
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To have potentially his best pro career doesn't mean you couldn't potentially leave him out there a tackle and have developed for a year and see if you can push one of your starters.
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You know, on the right side of the line.
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You're talking about Nick Gates, returning from this past season where he had a lot opportunities, play both guard and tackle throughout the year.
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Puts in good film on tape showed that he is capable of.
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At the very least, we know we have a high end swing tackle backing up both of those positions.
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We also brought in Fleming.
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His approach to it is that's an open competition.
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He's looking to win it, so if he beats out Gates, that means that we have a better starting right tackle.
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I don't know if there's any potential for Gates to swing around to the other side and say, Hey, you compete against potentially push Nate soldier at the left tackle position.
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We'll see if we can go ahead and get one of these trade opportunities to come up here on the big board so that we get a sense of where the Giants may want to go.
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A lot of the teams that you're going to see come through here from what we've gathered so far is you're talking about potentially.
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The San Francisco 40 Niners get rumored a lot because they have two first round picks after making the trade with was colts.
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The benefit there for them is that they can go ahead and target a key need now.
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Are they one piece away? Quote unquote? Maybe not.
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You know that Richard Sherman had a solid year, although he is on the older side on the wrong side of 30 especially for a cornerback position.
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Could they come up to maybe try to target Target Tokuda? That's a possibility, though I don't necessarily see it being highly likely for them.
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The other reason there is that they only have those 1st 2 picks in the first round.
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Then they don't pick again until the fourth round.
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So if they're talking about packaging up and trying to make a push off the board, going to be an issue for them just in terms of filling out the roster with some other needs, more likely to me, we do cover this a little bit When you get into the mock draft episode, I would more likely see the medicine area where they drafted 13 best player available, address the need for themselves, and then the 31st pick could be a trade down opportunity.
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Other players that we have seen us, all of the teams that we have seen out there, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
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Now they obviously picked up Tom Brady and free agency.
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Are they looking to address one key need? They may want to get offensive.
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Lineman could potentially be there for them.
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Other teams that get thrown around there as well you're talking about maybe the Atlanta Falcons.
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Maybe the Denver Broncos along them Seems that could be Q B Needy Jacksonville Jaguars certainly could fall into that mix, though.
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You have to wonder, Are they more comfortable with Minshew than maybe it appears? Obviously, they treated Nick Foles away, so that seems to be in support of Minshew.
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You also know that during rebuild mode, so the idea that a team that has the ninth and 20th pick overall are they package those up and come up certainly would be potential.
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And if you're the Giants.
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That opportunity would be nice because you're talking about still being in the top 10 and from everything that you see, you're probably still gonna get a crack at one of the top three.
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Often a top four offensive lineman where that stretching worse as we mentioned, you could go ahead and think about Andrew Thomas, who was coming into this draft possibly going to be one of the top offensive tackle taken.
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Now he seems to have slipped a little bit.
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You also have a defect in your general wills in there.
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Those basically constitute four top offensive lineman, specifically ones.
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Do you think I potential play a tackle, Beckton and, uh, Andrew Thomas being one that had experienced at left tackle at the college level? Well, go ahead.
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And as we try to reload this here a little bit other areas that need, though, if you're not gonna go with linebacker Simmons at four and you're gonna trade back, you get back into the needier part of this first round of the draft anywhere from 12 to 25 range.
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Let's say that's when you're getting into a couple of opportunities to take a look at edge rushers, ATT, linebackers and then, potentially, depending on how the board please out, you could possibly see an opportunity to take a wide receiver, even in that spot as well.
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Now, if you're if you've been following on Twitter, there's been some conversations around pro football focus.
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They came out, talked about treat about the Giants, stink, had it four and taking a wide receiver.
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They took a little bit of flak for that, and I think, really, it's because, you know, if you're gonna trade back and give yourself an opportunity, take a wide receiver in the first round.
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I think that's a possibility, because you're still giving yourself flexibility that 2nd 1st round pick.
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If, however, you go the route of saying that you're going to stay at four and on, Lee then have an opportunity to take one player, not pick again until the fourth pick in the second round, and then not again until the back end of the third round.
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That's where you're gonna start to run into some issues here, so I'll go ahead and pop up this screen again real quick here to show you we're not getting necessarily some of those trade offers early on that we were hoping for.
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But you can start to look at Here is the start of that board plays out and you see you talk about Joe Borough going for number one overall.
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That seemed, with the foregone conclusion, the Redskins.
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We know that we eat them for better or worse in that game.
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Maybe for worse, if you wanted to get your hands on the edge rusher like Chase Young and then obviously, Isaiah Simmons, in this scenario goes to the Detroit line.
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So let's just think about some of those potential trades.
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As we mentioned, If it's the Jaguars, you're going to nine and 20.
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If it's the Oakland Raiders, you're talking about 12 and 19 when you come down here and you take a look at where this draft board is going to play out.
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More than likely, all of those tackles.
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If you get to nine with the Jaguars, you're still probably gonna get a shot at one of those tackles could be judging.
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Will's Andrew Thomas also might be available.
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There is well, depending on depending on which board you go off.
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Typically on this one, Andrew Thomas is less that higher, then the likes of attrition works.
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But a lot of boards have been showing Tristan worse, being the best now offensive lineman in this track.
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So when you start to look down around at 10 and 12 range, remember, you're talking about the Cleveland Browns there at number 10.
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They obviously have capital in this draft, multiple third round picks.
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They could trade up if they want to target a specific player, but at 10 and probably falls to them right behind the New York Jets.
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Also, a team that needs an offensive line.
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It needs a left tackle.
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So could they just sit right there and wait for the board to come to them? Probably.
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So, if you trade down and you get back behind those couple of teams, you have to kind of live with the prospect of not necessarily getting the target that you may want to go after.
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But players that you do have their, uh, Vanessa, obviously out of Iowa, you know he's gonna be an edge rusher, a possibility for the Giants.
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You're talking about even a Kenneth Murray linebacker.
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If you don't get Isiah Simmons say that he had selected rate, therefore overall, and we can probably play this out a little bit.
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Let's just go with one of those obvious ones, right? I'm gonna go ahead and say I'm taking Andrew Tom.
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So in a trade down scenario, you're going to have the opportunity to sit there and see what falls to you.
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Could be the attrition.
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Worst slides that far down could be that you end up in the area where you can consider taking a safety like Xavier McKinney now wide receiver wise or even a safety like Grant.
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Delicate, certainly.
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Ah, gross mottoes is going to be available in terms of edge rushers.
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When you think about from that standpoint you have chase on, you're going tohave Vanessa, and you're going tohave gross mottoes.
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Those are probably going to be the three guys in any of these trade down scenarios that will be available for you now in the multiple trade down scenarios.
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That's fantastic.
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To be able to have to first round picks.
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The other side of that is going to be trading back with one of these teams, as I mentioned, like a Denver Broncos like in Atlanta found even talking about potentially maybe, say, Cleveland Cleveland Brown say they love one of these offensive tackles that want to get up there and make sure they get it before anybody else has a chance to.
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If they made a movie, you're talking about potentially getting to third round picks for them.
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So as you work through this draft, the different scenarios that potentially can play out for you are going to dictate where you want to target.
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It's, um, or keep position.
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In this scenario, we don't get any opportunity to trade down here.
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So we're gonna go ahead and say, All right, we take Andrew Thomas, right? Whatever else may play out here, potentially, we'll let that cycle through.
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And now what you have to start to address is currently we're living in a world where we do not have the opportunity to do anything other than draft first round of four.
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Now we'll have second round for 30 35 then forced for rest of the draft plays out.
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But these first handful of rounds are obviously going to loom pretty large.
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So you see this first round playing through at the end of the day, what what fell behind us after we took that Andrew Thomas selection.
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Remember, we're also dictating a little bit by taking one of them off the board.
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Miami Dolphins go to a.
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That makes a lot of sense.
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This has been a flip flop pick there after that, with Derek Brown going to the Chargers.
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Oh, Kudo goes to the Panthers, and then you see over the next three picks, you're going to see two more offensive tackles come off the board.
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But, interestingly enough, you look in the the New York Jets range.
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You talk about even the Las Vegas Raiders who stand Pat, and they were able to get themselves a great offensive weapon and Justin Jefferson.
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But here, Josh Jones still available.
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Tristian were still available.
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A couple of teams that could have gone that route choose not to.
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Ah, and then as you work your way down Jerry, Judy.
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And so when you talk about the dream scenario fall into the lap of Tampa Bay, they get to get a phenomenal offensive weapon down to the ****nal.
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That seems probably a little bit out of character for them, given who they have in that wide receiving corps right now.
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But if you want to surround Tom Brady with the best possible weapons.
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This obviously would be a great opportunity to do so.
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Dangerous one here where the Dallas Cowboys end up landing chase on a valuable edge rusher to bring into their defensive corps.
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Miami Dolphins sit there with their 2nd 1st round pick.
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They're able to get Tristan works, so a lot of things play out pretty well for them there.
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And then as we work our way to the back end, you see Austin Jackson goes still in the first round and then exit your McKinney taken there by the Kansas City Chiefs.
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On the back end, we kick ourselves over to the top of the second round.
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We'll see if anything is to come through here for us.
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We have seen a handful of times where something's come across the board, so here's a great opportunity to take a look at this.
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So the multiple angles that you have to think about here trade offer comes across and, you know, realistically we've talked about before.
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Dave Gettleman has never treated down in his career as a general manager.
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I think, especially in the first round, it's hard to say that He's definitely going to do it and sit back and say he should do it.
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But will he do it? That's that's certainly up for to be in the second round.
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Now we take a look at the best available players, and here's the interesting part of it, right? So now we've already taken an offensive tackle for ourselves.
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Where else might we want to go as you look down this list? Obviously, we're not going running back.
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This this early offensive line some of these other opportunities at these positions that are of need, but not necessarily this high in the draft.
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So I start to take a step back and say, Maybe a nice trade down scenario makes a lot of sense.
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I'll stay away from the New York Jets won because that's not the direction that we want to be going here.
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Share the same building.
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You typically don't make moves like that, by the way, they're a potential trade partner in the first round as well, and sometimes those offers have come across.
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However, I stayed away from them because you just usually don't tend to do business in the same city like that, so we'll go ahead and take that Tampa Bay offer on the table and then we'll watch as that board starts play out.
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So we see a couple of cornerbacks running backs.
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Quarterback Jordan love goes there.
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So the charges end up getting their guy and maybe at a better price point in the second round for ourselves.
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Now we come up, we're sitting here.
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We have a need of edge rusher.
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We obviously have Ah, need at the center position.
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Is this too early too? 10 sh aly do that.
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And really, I'm not I'm not gonna worry too much about where the Giants are gonna go here with these selections.
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It's just more about running a couple of these trade down scenario.
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So by doing that, though, do we really missed out on anyone that we were gonna want to go after the top of the second round? No.
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And what we've done is given ourselves that mid round second pick we're gonna make now and then a middle round pick in the third after having given it up for Leonard Williams in that trade that we made last season, Ironically, with the Jets, I know.
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I just I just talked about how you don't make trades with the club in your same city, and we know that they came off a doing one.
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But again, I still don't see that being likely.
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And by the way, the trade down here was a better offer from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and they ended up taking Let's just a quick look.
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They ended up going with that running back DeAndre Swift there to help solidify the weapons for Tom Brady.
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So let's just say and you, this is gonna be based on nothing other than saying, As you can see, positional needs edge safety, linebacker, wide receiver, cornerback centerfolds A little bit further down that list now.
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So I take a look.
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I see that I have edge rushers opportunities here.
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So let's just say we take lunch and I'm not again.
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I'm not gonna go into what my thinking is about that there, because this is just to kind of move the board through.
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I want to take a look and see if we happen to catch any trade offers on the third, and they'll try to reboot it one more time, go back to the top of the draft because I really do want to be able to display what some of these offers are that you're getting from teams at fourth overall pick in the first round.
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So the round concludes.
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As you can see, let's say of clothes out there with Van Jefferson going to the Seattle Seahawks there at the back end of the second round, we turn over into the third, take a look if we catch it and once again.
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So here's another great opportunity, right? We're picking in this mid third round Denver Broncos offering a tree.
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They're willing to give us the ninth teeth and 31st pick in the third round to come up to 12 in the Las Vegas Raiders, on the other hand, are willing to go 17 and 27 now.
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The other thing that you want to think about is it's not like we're just going to be trading down the first and the second and the third, and continue to get later and later assets.
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So a TTE this point, when you talk about the available players on that board, you start to think about center and safety being positions of need, knowing that you're gonna want to address them.
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So from that standpoint, even though it's nice to get a couple extra picks here, I probably decline stand, stand pat at my selection, runs around through, see who comes off the board ahead of us and whether or not we still end up with a quality player.
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The nice thing about this is and I'll go ahead, try to reboot.
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I'm gonna reboot this up and see if we get some of those first round opportunities.
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What's so nice about this, though, again, is that you can see the offers are coming through there.
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Now, I've been a firm believer that trading down at the top of the second round could make a lot of sense, depending on how the first round please out.
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The other thing to think about as well is what are you gonna do with some of these other assets if you need to call it the target, someone is Really I'm not gonna give up, give too much away about where Andy and I went in terms of the mock draft that we ran over the course of 2 2.
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5 hours, it took us to finally run through that.
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We were ecstatic about it.
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It was it was a ton of fun and also incredibly exhausting.
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So, um, the thing that we were trying to pay attention to here, though, is are we addressing the most important impressing needs for the New York football giants? And are we doing it in a way that feels, like were able to attack as many needs is possible as effectively and efficiently as possible.
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So rebooting it back up here once again, taking a look to see if we catch a trade off for nothing doing here as a child with him.
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So the bad news here is I wanted to show you some of the things that have gone through.
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Here we go.
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Finally, we're going to get ourselves one.
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So this is what we were hoping.
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Let's bring this back up.
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This is one of one of the opportunities.
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Doesn't mean it's going to be the only one, but you're looking at, as we said, right? So if the Jets were gonna come and make us an offer there on the board there telling you, we'll give you 11 16 in the second round, 15 in the third round.
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So when you think about the available players, as which, as we showed floor, you know you dropped down to that 11 spot, you may still be able to catch an offensive tackle right now.
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Likely, the Jets are coming up to take a tackle.
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In that scenario, you also have the Jacksonville Jaguars offering you nine and 20.
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You know, rebuilding.
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Do they still wanted? Maybe even if they're say, if they're not going for quarterback, maybe they're going for a weapon for Minshew.
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Ah, in this scenario, let's go ahead and just accept that one here real quick from the New York Jets.
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Let's say that we make that deal in the same building as it plays out.
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Isaiah Simmons, oddly enough, ends up going to the Jets.
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So then, of going defense, they don't go address the offensive line.
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That's a little bit surprising to me.
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But as you look down the board, what happens? Andrew Tristan Worst goes, Andrew Thomas goes, the kind acting goes just before us.
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So now we sit there at 11 knowing that we're going to have, as you look great up here, 11th in the second round.
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Now we've given ourselves to picks four and 16.
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We also have 15 and 35 in the third round.
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Now, all of a sudden, with the way this board has fallen out, CD lamb.
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Jerry, Judy still both sitting there for us at the 11th pick.
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Because when you look down here and you think about where the offense and tackles that you could possibly be targeting, there's nobody left until you get down to it.
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Ezra Cleveland, 26th overall on the board.
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That's not something that I'm going to be willing to go after in this scenario.
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The top four guys have already come off.
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I don't think that a player like Azra Cleveland and you got unless Austin Jackson these aren't bad players, but they're not someone.
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You're gonna take it the 11th overall.
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So this might be a scenario where you think about going for a weapon.
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For Daniel Jones, the reason why you don't go for ah weapon as a wide receiver if you stay at the fourth overall pick is because there's too much other talent that addresses bigger areas of need at that spot.
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Now, when we sit here, though, you know you could go down to edge if you want to.
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If you wanted to go that route, obviously we see Edge Rusher is listed above offensive tackle.
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You could possibly take a flier on one of these edge rushers if you want to.
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Lot of quality there.
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You know, cornerback falls well down the list after we signed Bradbury in free agency.
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So are we going to go down to see D A.
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Henderson? We certainly all the sudden completely changed the dynamic there in that in that secondary group.
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Yeah, but highly unlikely at just drafting DeAndre Baker last year.
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You still have Sam deal.
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You still have Julian love a lot of players in the mix, so you can see how this board falls a little bit differently.
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Let's go.
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Let's go ahead and say we would go for the weapon here.
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Now What we have to consider is, where do we end up as we head into that second round? But rather than go too far down that line, let's reboot this up one more time and and as we do so, I'm gonna go ahead and we'll take a look here and see.
00:24:17
Can I Will I be able to.
00:24:21
I'm a I'm a go ahead and depart off the Facebook page and then just continue forward on SportsCastr as we as we try to work through some of these simulations.
00:24:30
So let's go ahead and start this round up again, see if we catch a top of the second round.
00:24:35
Any trade possibilities.
00:24:37
We once again get offers.
00:24:38
This time the Atlanta Falcons again.
00:24:40
The Denver Broncos show up here, both offering mid round picks in the second and the third to come down from the fourth overall.
00:24:48
Take a look at the best available players.
00:24:50
There's that swift lineup again.
00:24:52
You have some wide receivers available.
00:24:54
Quarterbacks are gonna be here.
00:24:56
Herbert has dropped all the way down.
00:24:58
It's in the second round based on some of the struggles that he had, Uh, you know, Listen, we took a wide receiver, so now we have to be thinking offensive line or potentially, It may be an edge rusher or something on the defense's side of the ball scrolling down.
00:25:14
You see, next one comes up, though you do have, I think, just before the others.
00:25:17
There's Lucas Niang.
00:25:18
You have Isaiah Wilson out of Georgia down on the list a little bit, but that's it.
00:25:23
Sluices you get here and we're still the top of the second round.
00:25:26
We could trade back or we could stand pat and make this election.
00:25:28
Remember, Now we supplemented what our opportunity is here to get a quality player in the door As we step away and reboot back to the start of this draft, we're gonna go ahead and say goodbye to our Facebook broadcast here.
00:25:43
But we will continue to run.
00:25:45
Uh, yeah, sure, it went, went great that we don't tell them how it went great.
00:25:50
The bottom line is, though, as we continue to move through the board here way, Take a look at what could potentially come here again.
00:25:59
Back at the top of the draft.
00:26:01
Let's try to keep focusing in on the first round.
00:26:04
We want to know whether or not the New York football Giants would take some of these opportunities.
00:26:09
So we'll try to reboot this from the start again.
00:26:12
See what kind of traction we get if anyth so.
00:26:16
Here you go.
00:26:17
This is another great one.
00:26:18
This is what we started to talk about before.
00:26:19
So this is why I'm finally, glad we got this one.
00:26:22
Trade opportunities come through to two teams come knocking and Dave Gettleman store on draft night with one of the 2nd 1 that we talked about was San Francisco 49.
00:26:32
But look at the package that they put together to make it up to 4/13 and 31st pick in the first round, as well as the 10th and 30th pick in the fifth round if they make that kind of move, but it's great.
00:26:43
But you're talking about a team that will select one player fourth overall in the first round, and then they won't pick again until the fourth round.
00:26:50
I just don't see that being likely.
00:26:52
Even though this isn't a team that necessarily has, you know, multiple needs, you can always be supplemented.
00:26:58
You could always be adding depth at any given position.
00:27:01
The other interesting one that you talk about will be the Atlanta Falcons, and this is that interesting scenario all the way down to 16 and you'll pick up 18th in the second of 14th in the third and 1/13 in the fourth round.
00:27:17
So you know when you think about the multiple first round picks that someone's gonna offer, obviously, some back in one's here by San Francisco.
00:27:25
But in the Atlanta scenario, you pick up an extra draft pick in every single round for the next three rounds, and those are the key ones.
00:27:32
Let's go ahead and accept that trade from Atlanta in this scenario and see how far down the list of available assets we land.
00:27:39
But it's time we pick at 16 overall.
00:27:42
So in this scenario you get, maybe I was only realistic.
00:27:46
But you can start to talk about some of those things that we think would play out.
00:27:50
Obviously, Borough Chase Young Simmons.
00:27:53
OK, Atlanta Falcons come up and they go defense his side of the bowl.
00:27:57
They bring in a Cuda, Dolphins, get to a the Chargers, hold off on the quarterback and go brown again.
00:28:04
You get tristian worse coming off the board.
00:28:06
There goes Andrew Thomas.
00:28:07
There goes my kind Vechten to Cleveland, and then the Jets in this one think realistically taken offensive tackle on judging will's.
00:28:15
There's the San Francisco 49 is right holding strong end up taking Henry rugs.
00:28:20
The third, Jerry Judy, folds into the lap of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
00:28:24
And there goes Josh Jones, probably that borderline top group of offensive linemen.
00:28:29
He's gonna be the next one that comes off after the initial group of four, and now we sit here at 16.
00:28:35
So what's changed for us? If you're thinking about the tree down scenario, no matter what you do, if you're gonna come down out of 10 or 11 then this really is.
00:28:43
What makes a lot of sense because, you see, still, that same group of defensive town is available for you.
00:28:50
Vanessa, Kenneth Murray Chase on that DeAndre Swift is in there.
00:28:55
From a talent standpoint, you don't expect unnecessarily to go this high and obviously even CJ Anderson, not necessarily for our taste, but McKinney is there Del Pit? Is there some wide receiver talents as well? And remember, as we scroll back up here and take a look at what we're gonna have four and 15 in the 2nd 14 and 35 in the third for and 13 in the fourth as well.
00:29:17
The reality about this here, too, is, and we'll go ahead and try to reboot this system again and see if we get another one of these different offers that we're hoping to be able to break down.
00:29:29
The reality about making a trade down like this and getting assets in the 2nd 3rd and fourth round in my mind means that we're going to have an opportunity for the Giants to package picks and target players.
00:29:42
So that's it.
00:29:43
That's your approach that you want, hopefully tohave.
00:29:46
Then all of a sudden, if you trade back to the middle of the first round, you identify the best available talent on your board and you take them.
00:29:53
Now you can turn around and say in the second round, who we may be looking at or potentially you want to get into the back into the first round, not unlike what Dave Gettleman did last year to get DeAndre Baker, If you If you like it and you want to make that move great.
00:30:09
Maybe you stand pat there in the second round.
00:30:11
But now you package up the mid third and our compensatory third and get yourself back up to the top of the third round into the back end of the second round because you maybe want to target a key offensive weapon at that point, Maybe the center position is is time to get a dress there as well.
00:30:27
And you don't want to miss out on the layer that you're at that you're looking to get after.
00:30:32
And those are the scenarios that you're going to have to you, By the way, figure out real time, and a lot of these dominoes fall in succession.
00:30:39
If you make the choice to trade down out of four overall and you have multiple first round assets, those two selections that you make there are going to dictate drastically how you're going to go in the 2nd 3rd 4th 5th and even into the sixth and seventh rank.
00:30:55
If you take a trade down scenario where it's getting you say, the Atlanta trade now, all the sudden we have our mid first, we get our early and mid second and early and mid third and early and mid fourth of a mid and late third and then early and mid fourth.
00:31:12
So much flexibility.
00:31:14
And with all those back and picks that you have four in the seventh round, you can start to move around that bored a lot and target the players that you're interested in where, at the end of the day, you come out of it may be saying we ended up getting five key players, not be the only number of players right now.
00:31:31
The giant sit there with 10 overall draft pick.
00:31:34
But if you came away with five quality players, Navy you No.
00:31:38
One in the 1st 2 in the second, and then you push up in the third and you push up maybe even in the back, into the third again with some fourth round assets.
00:31:49
And now you end up with five players out of the 1st 3 rounds, the impact that they could have on your roster.
00:31:57
Unlike what may happen at the 5th 6th or seventh round players where you're typically taking it.
00:32:01
Taking a look at a player, seeing if you can develop him and checking it over the course of a rookie contract, he can become a contributing on your team.
00:32:09
Now you're basically saying we brought in five assets, were gonna look across our roster and say, three starters and too heavy contributors with the potential to be starters down the road for us.
00:32:20
So that's some of the interesting and certainly exciting stuff.
00:32:23
Take a look here again, Rebooted another time came up with that Jets and San Francisco 40 Niners Trade offers Again I don't trying to assess the realistic nature of that San Francisco when it's tricky, if they really felt like they are truly one, pick away one player away from going from Super Bowl runner up to make Super Bowl champion in a year where we saw so many times that the Kansas City Chiefs played heartbreak.
00:32:51
A heart attack, you know, uh, for the fan base flowing behind all throughout the playoffs and still managed to come back still may come back and doing the Super Bowl as well.
00:33:02
A side note.
00:33:03
I didn't think that that was going to be possible against the San Francisco 40 Niners, and yet at the end of the day, they accomplished it.
00:33:08
So, um, here we go.
00:33:10
Once again, let's go ahead and share this one more time, and this will be the last board that we bring up before we check out of here for the and this is because I still get that Jets offer, interestingly enough, but here's the other one, and that's the Las Vegas Raiders 12 and 19.
00:33:26
Obviously, you're going to get some great opportunities.
00:33:29
Let's let's accept that one and just find out where they would look to go.
00:33:32
That fourth pick potential.
00:33:35
They can go.
00:33:36
They can go best player available here.
00:33:38
Look at that.
00:33:39
So in this one, not unlike last year, remember the selection that they made? They targeted the players that they wanted.
00:33:44
They made the moves after dealing Khalil Mack to make sure they got target.
00:33:49
Everyone they want.
00:33:50
It didn't matter what the outside perspective was.
00:33:51
They go after Kinloch.
00:33:53
Very valuable player, very too talented player.
00:33:56
And as we work our way down that board once again, check it out.
00:34:00
The Jets go ahead and give Sam Darnold, their young quarterback, a very big asset in Jerry Judy.
00:34:06
And now we find ourselves sitting there with some interesting choices.
00:34:10
Toe.
00:34:11
Once again, make Mukai Beckton is still gonna be there for us now at this 12 overall pick, and that means that you give yourself a great opportunity to still address the offensive line, and you're going to get that 19th overall pick where you could have some maneuverability.
00:34:25
So in this scenario, let's say that.
00:34:27
Well, let's say that we take the offensive tackle in Mukai Beck, and now we watch that board working, dressed the way down to the 19th overall pick where no trade offers come in.
00:34:38
And now we're sitting there again with a great opportunity and maybe take a look at some of these defensive players.
00:34:44
If you even wanted to say a tea Higgins, maybe you want to go offensive weapon or something along those lines.
00:34:50
So you see, though, how in every one of these scenarios, but you're giving yourself different opportunities to address needs, what in this particular 12 1st round selections, that means that we're at two.
00:35:03
A 243 35 484 and so on down the line.
00:35:07
We're not gonna have a lot of maneuverability when it comes to the rest of draft.
00:35:10
Can we package something's up and try to move around the board? Yes, but in these other multiple picks scenarios from Atlanta Falcons or wait, didn't get chance to see.
00:35:20
And I'll try to try to reboot this one again here to see if we get that Cleveland trade offer to come up for us, because again If you don't have those multiple assets to move around the board, then you're gonna be not stuck.
00:35:33
You know, you want to frame it in a way that makes it feel like we're talking about.
00:35:37
You're not gonna have a quality player to take.
00:35:39
But that gap is pretty big.
00:35:41
Once again, we run it.
00:35:42
We come up with the Jacksonville Jaguars and the Jets once again.
00:35:46
What? I mean, listen, it comes up enough time.
00:35:48
Do you have to start to think about whether or not there's a possibility there that the Jets would legitimately make an offer to the fourth overall? The hard part about that as well as we just on trying to see if I get this Cleveland want to come up because showing what kind of assets they give you is probably the last variation of multiple first round picks talking about 1st 2nd 3rd 4th from a couple of different teams going back into the mid first round.
00:36:13
But then the ah, the Cleveland Browns.
00:36:16
Let's take a look here.
00:36:17
Ah, so there you another one here.
00:36:19
Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 14th in the first and then rising round by round 13th 12th and then 11th in the fourth round, again collection of assets.
00:36:28
You see that the Raiders come up there once again? Let's just talk about it so I can actually go in here and say, Let's try to propose a trade We want to send that first overall pick to the Cleveland Brown we want in return is we want that 10th overall pick.
00:36:45
And realistically, you know most of these.
00:36:47
Most of these offers were talking about teams that are coming up.
00:36:51
Now.
00:36:52
You know that you had a team with the Jaguars willing to give you two first round selections there, right? Willing to give you nine and then also 20.
00:37:01
Typically, what we've seen here is those mid around 1st 1st selections.
00:37:06
Atlanta, Denver, Even the 11th right? We saw that from the Jets there 1st 2nd and third from the Jets.
00:37:13
And then when you get a little bit further down and you talk about Atlanta in Denver now they're willing to kick.
00:37:18
And also that fourth round selection for that now for the Cleveland Radley, sickly have been getting from them.
00:37:24
I'll show you this where it lays out the third at 10 and the third and 33 sometimes a little bit extra comes in on the back end, sometimes not.
00:37:34
You know, you may want to see if they're willing to give up the two at nine, at which point may be right for it.
00:37:41
Nine.
00:37:42
Too much too rich Trade trade automatically gets shut down.
00:37:45
I don't think it is a realistic option If you want that second round pick.
00:37:48
Let's go ahead and clear the board off and say, We just want your 10th overall the second at nine and the sixth round pick that one gets accepted, right? So now you're talking about maybe a little bit of a different wrinkle here, where you're giving yourself that 10th now in the second round to get four and nine, you're a little bit tighter.
00:38:09
Still a big layoff there in the third round before you get to select what you do, back yourself up with an extra sixth round pick.
00:38:17
And while that may not seem like that big of a deal, one of the things will do on our way out here is let's go ahead.
00:38:24
Just walk through this real quick 10th overall out where we sit in here, we take Christian worse.
00:38:28
We love it, right? Let's let that go ahead and rotate its way through in the background there because I just want to kind of quickly get through these couple of rounds and then just talk about what happens in terms of some tree potential.
00:38:41
And I could actually play them out on the front end without having to work our way all the way through this draft.
00:38:47
So we can see here second round, first round, finishing up and and we get over in the second round.
00:38:55
Let's take a look at what happens.
00:38:56
We took Tristan worse.
00:38:57
We feel like he's an animal.
00:38:58
He's an athlete, He's mauler, you know.
00:39:01
We trust him to go into the tackle position.
00:39:02
That's how we approach, right? Start that round All now.
00:39:08
We have two picks in the 1st 10 at the start of this second round.
00:39:11
New trade offers talk through an offensive line the first.
00:39:14
Now we want to get something else going here in a couple different opportunities.
00:39:18
I'm gonna say, Denzel men, we're gonna go wide receiver and give We're gonna give Daniel Jones another weapon there in that wide receiver group at nine we get a couple of trade offers, we get the opportunity potentially to trade down with Buffalo, who will give us a late second and a late third.
00:39:34
And then Minnesota comes up with a pretty big offer here of a second and tooth third round selection.
00:39:40
Old back in stuff.
00:39:41
But still, we've already made a nice selection here for ourselves.
00:39:45
Maybe we want to gather up some assets.
00:39:48
Let's decline it.
00:39:49
Let's take a look at our board.
00:39:50
We talk about still needing a lot of things.
00:39:52
Edge Rusher is obviously going to be a player that we're going to be an area of need for us.
00:39:58
And do we have the assets in order to make that happen? If we don't go there now, you know, worrying about some players falling off.
00:40:06
So let's just say we're sitting here.
00:40:11
We like what we see.
00:40:12
Eggs.
00:40:13
A viewer. McKinney has fallen to us. Fantastic.
00:40:15
Now, before this plays out, what we want to think about here is from click over to the edge rusher category.
00:40:22
Curtis Weaver Talk about Wara from Notre Dame.
00:40:26
Zuniga from Florida.
00:40:28
Strobridge is there from from North Carolina, and you see how their ranking out, though, they get Darryl Thomas and so on down the line.
00:40:37
But we also realize how long we're gonna have to wait from ninth in the second round all the way down to the third.
00:40:44
So now you think about is is there an opportunity for us to propose a tree to a team? What we say? OK, got that third pick a 35? We've also got shoes, sixth round selections, and let's just see, for argument's sake, we went ahead and took a look at Let's say this Cincinnati Bangles right, Because what are they gonna have available for us? The first pick overall in the third round? So pose that trade gets shot down.
00:41:15
Didn't think it was gonna necessarily have.
00:41:17
Let's take out that sixth round pick.
00:41:19
Let's make it 1/4 round selection for ourselves that gets accepted.
00:41:24
Now that may be a little bit too rich, right? Giving up, Ah, the back end, third and the start of the fourth plus one of our sixth round picks.
00:41:31
But because we traded back and had multiple six were able to package up and get ourselves to the top of the third round toe have a quality player.
00:41:42
Let's just try this again here and talk about looking at fourth pick.
00:41:47
Let's say we want to Let's try to get our fourth pick back now from there when we say you know what, Well, go ahead and we'll give you our sixth round pick.
00:41:56
We're also going to give you two of our seventh round selections.
00:42:02
Gets the client.
00:42:03
Didn't think it didn't think it was necessarily gonna happen there, Right, Because we're not giving them a ton of assets.
00:42:08
Let's move it up into 1/5 round.
00:42:09
Selection still gets declined, so we still can't quite get there.
00:42:14
Maybe best opportunity we can say we have is to throw that six round or Adam.
00:42:19
We still can't get there.
00:42:20
So we're stuck a little bit in terms of moving around this board after we made this little leap here to get to the top of the third, only other to opportunity.
00:42:31
But you can certainly talk about would be to say, Let's move ourselves.
00:42:34
Try one more move here, top of the seventh round.
00:42:38
So there we go when we get there.
00:42:39
So we ended up sending along.
00:42:41
There was top of the seventh round pick.
00:42:43
He also sent our sixth and our fifth to get back up to the top of the fourth.
00:42:48
Let's play this out.
00:42:49
Second round is working in the background now.
00:42:52
We can just kind of let that play itself out here for a minute, working our way through the later stages.
00:42:57
You see some centers coming off the board.
00:42:59
There goes some of those edge rushers that we talked about pull back up here and it's think, Think about what we've done so far.
00:43:05
We've addressed offensive line.
00:43:07
We've addressed wide receiver may be too early in the draft, potentially for our liking, but we also get ourselves a nice player and egg Xavier McKinney.
00:43:16
Flip it over.
00:43:19
Cleveland Browns wanted offer something for the first.
00:43:21
We don't care about that.
00:43:22
We've made our move.
00:43:24
Here's why. It's important.
00:43:25
And again, these air.
00:43:26
None of these things on the selections that I'm making or are you are you know, based on any of the extra research that we've been and I've been doing on these drafts when you look at this now, all of a sudden we're still gonna have our top of the third and top of the fourth by being at the top of the third ran.
00:43:42
It means that we have an opportunity.
00:43:44
Take a look down this list here and honestly, it doesn't really pan out for us.
00:43:48
I mean, you know, Strobridge, first edge rusher that we see and at the top of the third round were honestly talking about being where Top of the top of the third round.
00:43:59
We're talking about sitting there at the 65th 95th plus compensatory range.
00:44:05
So there's a number is gonna be about 30 players there.
00:44:08
Some of them have hung around.
00:44:09
They're still available with safety position.
00:44:11
But how about this Right here? Right.
00:44:13
Bigger.
00:44:14
We sit here and we say, You know, we ended up with We ended up with that.
00:44:18
We decline all trades.
00:44:20
We ended up being able to address our center position of need and without making that trade up, we're not going to have the opportunity to do so.
00:44:27
So that's pretty important There.
00:44:29
He paused this draft briefly.
00:44:31
Take a look and say, This is this is this is a very loose firing from the hip kind of thing just so you could see some of the many opportunities you have, you're not gonna necessarily do these kind of movements all in one draft.
00:44:45
Any of these decisions can get made on a draft to draft basis.
00:44:50
We pause it here in the third round.
00:44:52
The reason why it let's think about what else we need, still says, We need edge.
00:44:56
I know linebacker is listed, but I can make a case of brought in guys and free agency.
00:45:00
The edges is a player of So as we scroll down right, BC Strobridge keep moving.
00:45:07
We see Darryl Top Taylor out of Tennessee, also there.
00:45:11
Let's say that we wanted to target one of them.
00:45:14
If we want to lock into that player, you know, it's a long ways away here, sitting at three for eight, trying to package up the fourth and those 3/7 potentially to get ourselves up. There is a possibility.
00:45:26
The reason why you think about it as we go ahead and play here starts to run itself through.
00:45:31
We see some wide receivers coming off the board.
00:45:33
There goes a couple of Senators, guards, players that we've addressed now in our need.
00:45:38
Curiosity is, do we get there, boom.
00:45:40
There it was Detroit Lions, right? Detroit Lions right there.
00:45:44
Grabbed Jason Strobridge.
00:45:46
So one of those available edge rushers is gone.
00:45:49
We see some more linebackers go off the board.
00:45:51
There goes another one.
00:45:53
Pause.
00:45:54
Once again, Willie Gay junior goes to the Tennessee Titans at the back end of the third round.
00:45:58
Another nice player could contribute on the defensive front and then bang.
00:46:02
There it is again.
00:46:03
Calls it one more time.
00:46:04
Cleveland Browns get Daryll Taylor, the 33rd pick in the third round.
00:46:09
So you can see how old a sudden by waiting that long, little bit there.
00:46:14
We don't have an opportunity, necessarily.
00:46:16
You address that need and then what we potentially get left with.
00:46:19
Take a look here as the round wraps up all those compensatory picks.
00:46:24
By the way, you know, 10 total picks get added onto the back end of this third round in the draft this year.
00:46:30
Now here, we're gonna come up.
00:46:32
Where we gonna go? A lot of safeties running back guard, center linebacker comes up there and Brooks, and then it's a long wait, right? All of a sudden, you're starting again to a bit of a difficult scenario, regardless of whether or not you made the train down at any point along the way, you can see how by the time you get to this fourth round, addressing certain areas of need are going to become more and more difficult.
00:46:56
So that needy part of the draft this is a draft.
00:46:59
It is very rich from high into the first round.
00:47:02
Obviously, it's fun in town when you talk about from the mid second to mid third.
00:47:10
There is a ton of talent there, and specifically when you talk about linebacker and edge rushers.
00:47:14
And also this wide receiving group has some talent there as well.
00:47:18
Center can be lumped in there, though you can push it back a little bit further into the third and fourth round.
00:47:25
This is the bull care you need to address need, and when you lose that pic to the Leonard Williams trade, you can see how it affects you.
00:47:32
That's why the trade down offers the top of the second need to be thought about.
00:47:36
And that's why, depending on what you do in the first, you have to consider these offers as well.
00:47:42
This has been what I like to call Roaming, broadcast, covering some of the potential opportunities.
00:47:47
I want to thank everybody for checking in with us.
00:47:49
Obviously, this was just something fun to try to try to give you a little bit of insight, as we had mentioned Prior Asai.
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Ah, and then also summer's 44 07 Pleasure to have you all involved here.
00:48:17
Reason why we want to do this.
00:48:18
Little bit of a tease, as they like to say in the business, as we mentioned come Monday morning, will have broken down or fully developed and flushed out researched seven round mock draft the New York football Giants.
00:48:30
You saw how many trade opportunities we had.
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Top of the top of the first round with the Jaguars, Denver Broncos, Atlanta Falcons, New York Las Vegas Raiders thrown in the mix there as well.
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Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
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So a lot of opportunities to potentially move down in this draft and build up some more assets and we've also displayed for the opportunity group picks together and move up.
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Potential Draft Trades

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Adam Armbrecht @OneGiantPodcast

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And with that Woking back into the one giant podcast here late on a Saturday night, we're actually going live on a SportsCastr platform utilising see a stream yard here to also be able to send this out live to our Facebook page as well.
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And as you can tell by the headlines, if you're over there on the SportsCastr network, we're talking about potentially those NFL draft, a trade down options that the New York Giants may be presented with and what that could look like.
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Ah, on Monday and and I just wrapped up doing our full post free agency seven rounds mark draft scenario for the New York Giants.
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We both operated off the same big board, and then we had opportunities to trade down in the first round, also had chances to make some other moves throughout, and we kind of diverged a little bit in terms of the players that we targeted positional needs that we went after as we worked our way through it, now be launching as of Monday, break that down into a two parter, if not Monday and Tuesday, maybe even Monday and Wednesday.
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We're going to be checking in with Zach from Giants 24 7 as well.
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So a little bit of a round table discussion reviewing what we did there and then ultimately probably talking a little bit about some of the areas that we wish we had addressed maybe earlier in the draft and maybe some opportunities that we felt like we missed out on for.
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For these, for the purposes of this, where we want to try to do is take a look at the draft and think about what the possibilities are for the Giants, especially at the top of the draft here.
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Fourth overall pick.
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We know that offensive tackle is a big need, obviously a lot of conversations around Isaiah Simmons.
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But what if we get presented with opportunities to trade back? What does it look like for us? And at one point, you have to take those opportunities on Consider about the extra assets you're going to get later in the first round of potentially in rounds throughout the 1st 2nd 3rd and even fourth rounds as well.
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So we'll do is we'll go ahead and share the page.
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Here we operate off fan speed, a website where they give you a great opportunity to go in there.
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You have a number of big boards to choose from from bleacher report.
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Fans speak, runs a couple of different guys there.
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Steve and Jake.
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You also have, I think, Matt Miller over a bleacher report.
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CBS also offers one as well through Josh Edwards, and that's the one that we went with, mostly because when you compare it to a cup whoa of the other ones out there taking a look at where Todd McShay has.
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Some people lined up immediate smell Keiper and then even just ESPN is general big boards as well You want to be is reasonably close to where you think some of these guys are going to go.
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So that way, when we work through these mock scenarios, it feels like we're catching, you know, a realistic option and not feeling like some guy just falling into our laps in the fifth round when it's fairly well known that they're going to go, you know, in the second or third.
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So we'll go ahead and also enlarge this up a little bit here.
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So basically what we're going to take a look at is I can go ahead and reboot this a handful of times.
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And the objective here for us is going to be to see what kind of offers come in for the New York Giants and whether or not we would want to take advantage of those or pass on them and stay.
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Ah, pat there at number four.
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So, as you can see, we're lined up here using the CBS Josh Edwards big board, we have a team needs just going through.
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Fans speak as far as that goes as well.
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The current official draft order, obviously, is where we're going to start.
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So let's dive into it here.
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And as it boots up, we could see initially and offer may come in immediately if in the event that it doesn't would just go ahead and reload this page up and I'm gonna do it a handful of times, the value there is that you're going to see every time that we run one of these scenarios, you'll catch to potential trade offers that you may get.
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So what is it? Go ahead and jump right in here is see Joe Burrows, Chase Edwards and there's Isaiah.
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Same.
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It's coming off the board at number three.
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So for me personally, I think now you talk about if you want to go offensive tackle.
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No, the phone doesn't ring and we don't get any opportunities to make a trade there.
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So while I reload this up, one of the things that we're concerned about is whether or not Isaiah Simmons is available for us.
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Has an option at that fourth overall pick.
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If he isn't, do we go ahead and automatically make you know, switch for ourselves and say we're going to go in a different direction? Would we select Simmons there if he is available? And if you're going to stand Pat, one of the issues with offensive lineman is that typically you don't see them taken this high in the draft, you know, historically.
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So you look at the rankings of these players, even though Tristram works skyrockets up that board, and I'll go ahead and pull this out of the way here for a moment and try to reboot this and get a couple of these offers to come our way.
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Tricia, where skyrockets due to the amazing combine that he has, and that's great.
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But he is an offensive lineman, really they're talking about him kicking into guard.
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To have potentially his best pro career doesn't mean you couldn't potentially leave him out there a tackle and have developed for a year and see if you can push one of your starters.
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You know, on the right side of the line.
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You're talking about Nick Gates, returning from this past season where he had a lot opportunities, play both guard and tackle throughout the year.
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Puts in good film on tape showed that he is capable of.
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At the very least, we know we have a high end swing tackle backing up both of those positions.
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We also brought in Fleming.
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His approach to it is that's an open competition.
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He's looking to win it, so if he beats out Gates, that means that we have a better starting right tackle.
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I don't know if there's any potential for Gates to swing around to the other side and say, Hey, you compete against potentially push Nate soldier at the left tackle position.
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We'll see if we can go ahead and get one of these trade opportunities to come up here on the big board so that we get a sense of where the Giants may want to go.
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A lot of the teams that you're going to see come through here from what we've gathered so far is you're talking about potentially.
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The San Francisco 40 Niners get rumored a lot because they have two first round picks after making the trade with was colts.
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The benefit there for them is that they can go ahead and target a key need now.
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Are they one piece away? Quote unquote? Maybe not.
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You know that Richard Sherman had a solid year, although he is on the older side on the wrong side of 30 especially for a cornerback position.
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Could they come up to maybe try to target Target Tokuda? That's a possibility, though I don't necessarily see it being highly likely for them.
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The other reason there is that they only have those 1st 2 picks in the first round.
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Then they don't pick again until the fourth round.
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So if they're talking about packaging up and trying to make a push off the board, going to be an issue for them just in terms of filling out the roster with some other needs, more likely to me, we do cover this a little bit When you get into the mock draft episode, I would more likely see the medicine area where they drafted 13 best player available, address the need for themselves, and then the 31st pick could be a trade down opportunity.
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Other players that we have seen us, all of the teams that we have seen out there, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
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Now they obviously picked up Tom Brady and free agency.
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Are they looking to address one key need? They may want to get offensive.
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Lineman could potentially be there for them.
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Other teams that get thrown around there as well you're talking about maybe the Atlanta Falcons.
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Maybe the Denver Broncos along them Seems that could be Q B Needy Jacksonville Jaguars certainly could fall into that mix, though.
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You have to wonder, Are they more comfortable with Minshew than maybe it appears? Obviously, they treated Nick Foles away, so that seems to be in support of Minshew.
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You also know that during rebuild mode, so the idea that a team that has the ninth and 20th pick overall are they package those up and come up certainly would be potential.
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And if you're the Giants.
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That opportunity would be nice because you're talking about still being in the top 10 and from everything that you see, you're probably still gonna get a crack at one of the top three.
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Often a top four offensive lineman where that stretching worse as we mentioned, you could go ahead and think about Andrew Thomas, who was coming into this draft possibly going to be one of the top offensive tackle taken.
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Now he seems to have slipped a little bit.
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You also have a defect in your general wills in there.
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Those basically constitute four top offensive lineman, specifically ones.
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Do you think I potential play a tackle, Beckton and, uh, Andrew Thomas being one that had experienced at left tackle at the college level? Well, go ahead.
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And as we try to reload this here a little bit other areas that need, though, if you're not gonna go with linebacker Simmons at four and you're gonna trade back, you get back into the needier part of this first round of the draft anywhere from 12 to 25 range.
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Let's say that's when you're getting into a couple of opportunities to take a look at edge rushers, ATT, linebackers and then, potentially, depending on how the board please out, you could possibly see an opportunity to take a wide receiver, even in that spot as well.
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Now, if you're if you've been following on Twitter, there's been some conversations around pro football focus.
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They came out, talked about treat about the Giants, stink, had it four and taking a wide receiver.
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They took a little bit of flak for that, and I think, really, it's because, you know, if you're gonna trade back and give yourself an opportunity, take a wide receiver in the first round.
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I think that's a possibility, because you're still giving yourself flexibility that 2nd 1st round pick.
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If, however, you go the route of saying that you're going to stay at four and on, Lee then have an opportunity to take one player, not pick again until the fourth pick in the second round, and then not again until the back end of the third round.
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That's where you're gonna start to run into some issues here, so I'll go ahead and pop up this screen again real quick here to show you we're not getting necessarily some of those trade offers early on that we were hoping for.
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But you can start to look at Here is the start of that board plays out and you see you talk about Joe Borough going for number one overall.
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That seemed, with the foregone conclusion, the Redskins.
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We know that we eat them for better or worse in that game.
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Maybe for worse, if you wanted to get your hands on the edge rusher like Chase Young and then obviously, Isaiah Simmons, in this scenario goes to the Detroit line.
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So let's just think about some of those potential trades.
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As we mentioned, If it's the Jaguars, you're going to nine and 20.
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If it's the Oakland Raiders, you're talking about 12 and 19 when you come down here and you take a look at where this draft board is going to play out.
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More than likely, all of those tackles.
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If you get to nine with the Jaguars, you're still probably gonna get a shot at one of those tackles could be judging.
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Will's Andrew Thomas also might be available.
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There is well, depending on depending on which board you go off.
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Typically on this one, Andrew Thomas is less that higher, then the likes of attrition works.
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But a lot of boards have been showing Tristan worse, being the best now offensive lineman in this track.
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So when you start to look down around at 10 and 12 range, remember, you're talking about the Cleveland Browns there at number 10.
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They obviously have capital in this draft, multiple third round picks.
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They could trade up if they want to target a specific player, but at 10 and probably falls to them right behind the New York Jets.
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Also, a team that needs an offensive line.
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It needs a left tackle.
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So could they just sit right there and wait for the board to come to them? Probably.
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So, if you trade down and you get back behind those couple of teams, you have to kind of live with the prospect of not necessarily getting the target that you may want to go after.
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But players that you do have their, uh, Vanessa, obviously out of Iowa, you know he's gonna be an edge rusher, a possibility for the Giants.
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You're talking about even a Kenneth Murray linebacker.
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If you don't get Isiah Simmons say that he had selected rate, therefore overall, and we can probably play this out a little bit.
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Let's just go with one of those obvious ones, right? I'm gonna go ahead and say I'm taking Andrew Tom.
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So in a trade down scenario, you're going to have the opportunity to sit there and see what falls to you.
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Could be the attrition.
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Worst slides that far down could be that you end up in the area where you can consider taking a safety like Xavier McKinney now wide receiver wise or even a safety like Grant.
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Delicate, certainly.
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Ah, gross mottoes is going to be available in terms of edge rushers.
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When you think about from that standpoint you have chase on, you're going tohave Vanessa, and you're going tohave gross mottoes.
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Those are probably going to be the three guys in any of these trade down scenarios that will be available for you now in the multiple trade down scenarios.
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That's fantastic.
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To be able to have to first round picks.
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The other side of that is going to be trading back with one of these teams, as I mentioned, like a Denver Broncos like in Atlanta found even talking about potentially maybe, say, Cleveland Cleveland Brown say they love one of these offensive tackles that want to get up there and make sure they get it before anybody else has a chance to.
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If they made a movie, you're talking about potentially getting to third round picks for them.
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So as you work through this draft, the different scenarios that potentially can play out for you are going to dictate where you want to target.
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It's, um, or keep position.
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In this scenario, we don't get any opportunity to trade down here.
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So we're gonna go ahead and say, All right, we take Andrew Thomas, right? Whatever else may play out here, potentially, we'll let that cycle through.
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And now what you have to start to address is currently we're living in a world where we do not have the opportunity to do anything other than draft first round of four.
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Now we'll have second round for 30 35 then forced for rest of the draft plays out.
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But these first handful of rounds are obviously going to loom pretty large.
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So you see this first round playing through at the end of the day, what what fell behind us after we took that Andrew Thomas selection.
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Remember, we're also dictating a little bit by taking one of them off the board.
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Miami Dolphins go to a.
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That makes a lot of sense.
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This has been a flip flop pick there after that, with Derek Brown going to the Chargers.
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Oh, Kudo goes to the Panthers, and then you see over the next three picks, you're going to see two more offensive tackles come off the board.
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But, interestingly enough, you look in the the New York Jets range.
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You talk about even the Las Vegas Raiders who stand Pat, and they were able to get themselves a great offensive weapon and Justin Jefferson.
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But here, Josh Jones still available.
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Tristian were still available.
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A couple of teams that could have gone that route choose not to.
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Ah, and then as you work your way down Jerry, Judy.
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And so when you talk about the dream scenario fall into the lap of Tampa Bay, they get to get a phenomenal offensive weapon down to the ****nal.
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That seems probably a little bit out of character for them, given who they have in that wide receiving corps right now.
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But if you want to surround Tom Brady with the best possible weapons.
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This obviously would be a great opportunity to do so.
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Dangerous one here where the Dallas Cowboys end up landing chase on a valuable edge rusher to bring into their defensive corps.
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Miami Dolphins sit there with their 2nd 1st round pick.
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They're able to get Tristan works, so a lot of things play out pretty well for them there.
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And then as we work our way to the back end, you see Austin Jackson goes still in the first round and then exit your McKinney taken there by the Kansas City Chiefs.
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On the back end, we kick ourselves over to the top of the second round.
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We'll see if anything is to come through here for us.
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We have seen a handful of times where something's come across the board, so here's a great opportunity to take a look at this.
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So the multiple angles that you have to think about here trade offer comes across and, you know, realistically we've talked about before.
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Dave Gettleman has never treated down in his career as a general manager.
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I think, especially in the first round, it's hard to say that He's definitely going to do it and sit back and say he should do it.
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But will he do it? That's that's certainly up for to be in the second round.
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Now we take a look at the best available players, and here's the interesting part of it, right? So now we've already taken an offensive tackle for ourselves.
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Where else might we want to go as you look down this list? Obviously, we're not going running back.
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This this early offensive line some of these other opportunities at these positions that are of need, but not necessarily this high in the draft.
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So I start to take a step back and say, Maybe a nice trade down scenario makes a lot of sense.
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I'll stay away from the New York Jets won because that's not the direction that we want to be going here.
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Share the same building.
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You typically don't make moves like that, by the way, they're a potential trade partner in the first round as well, and sometimes those offers have come across.
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However, I stayed away from them because you just usually don't tend to do business in the same city like that, so we'll go ahead and take that Tampa Bay offer on the table and then we'll watch as that board starts play out.
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So we see a couple of cornerbacks running backs.
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Quarterback Jordan love goes there.
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So the charges end up getting their guy and maybe at a better price point in the second round for ourselves.
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Now we come up, we're sitting here.
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We have a need of edge rusher.
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We obviously have Ah, need at the center position.
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Is this too early too? 10 sh aly do that.
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And really, I'm not I'm not gonna worry too much about where the Giants are gonna go here with these selections.
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It's just more about running a couple of these trade down scenario.
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So by doing that, though, do we really missed out on anyone that we were gonna want to go after the top of the second round? No.
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And what we've done is given ourselves that mid round second pick we're gonna make now and then a middle round pick in the third after having given it up for Leonard Williams in that trade that we made last season, Ironically, with the Jets, I know.
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I just I just talked about how you don't make trades with the club in your same city, and we know that they came off a doing one.
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But again, I still don't see that being likely.
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And by the way, the trade down here was a better offer from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and they ended up taking Let's just a quick look.
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They ended up going with that running back DeAndre Swift there to help solidify the weapons for Tom Brady.
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So let's just say and you, this is gonna be based on nothing other than saying, As you can see, positional needs edge safety, linebacker, wide receiver, cornerback centerfolds A little bit further down that list now.
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So I take a look.
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I see that I have edge rushers opportunities here.
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So let's just say we take lunch and I'm not again.
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I'm not gonna go into what my thinking is about that there, because this is just to kind of move the board through.
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I want to take a look and see if we happen to catch any trade offers on the third, and they'll try to reboot it one more time, go back to the top of the draft because I really do want to be able to display what some of these offers are that you're getting from teams at fourth overall pick in the first round.
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So the round concludes.
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As you can see, let's say of clothes out there with Van Jefferson going to the Seattle Seahawks there at the back end of the second round, we turn over into the third, take a look if we catch it and once again.
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So here's another great opportunity, right? We're picking in this mid third round Denver Broncos offering a tree.
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They're willing to give us the ninth teeth and 31st pick in the third round to come up to 12 in the Las Vegas Raiders, on the other hand, are willing to go 17 and 27 now.
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The other thing that you want to think about is it's not like we're just going to be trading down the first and the second and the third, and continue to get later and later assets.
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So a TTE this point, when you talk about the available players on that board, you start to think about center and safety being positions of need, knowing that you're gonna want to address them.
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So from that standpoint, even though it's nice to get a couple extra picks here, I probably decline stand, stand pat at my selection, runs around through, see who comes off the board ahead of us and whether or not we still end up with a quality player.
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The nice thing about this is and I'll go ahead, try to reboot.
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I'm gonna reboot this up and see if we get some of those first round opportunities.
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What's so nice about this, though, again, is that you can see the offers are coming through there.
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Now, I've been a firm believer that trading down at the top of the second round could make a lot of sense, depending on how the first round please out.
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The other thing to think about as well is what are you gonna do with some of these other assets if you need to call it the target, someone is Really I'm not gonna give up, give too much away about where Andy and I went in terms of the mock draft that we ran over the course of 2 2.
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5 hours, it took us to finally run through that.
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We were ecstatic about it.
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It was it was a ton of fun and also incredibly exhausting.
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So, um, the thing that we were trying to pay attention to here, though, is are we addressing the most important impressing needs for the New York football giants? And are we doing it in a way that feels, like were able to attack as many needs is possible as effectively and efficiently as possible.
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So rebooting it back up here once again, taking a look to see if we catch a trade off for nothing doing here as a child with him.
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So the bad news here is I wanted to show you some of the things that have gone through.
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Here we go.
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Finally, we're going to get ourselves one.
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So this is what we were hoping.
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Let's bring this back up.
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This is one of one of the opportunities.
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Doesn't mean it's going to be the only one, but you're looking at, as we said, right? So if the Jets were gonna come and make us an offer there on the board there telling you, we'll give you 11 16 in the second round, 15 in the third round.
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So when you think about the available players, as which, as we showed floor, you know you dropped down to that 11 spot, you may still be able to catch an offensive tackle right now.
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Likely, the Jets are coming up to take a tackle.
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In that scenario, you also have the Jacksonville Jaguars offering you nine and 20.
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You know, rebuilding.
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Do they still wanted? Maybe even if they're say, if they're not going for quarterback, maybe they're going for a weapon for Minshew.
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Ah, in this scenario, let's go ahead and just accept that one here real quick from the New York Jets.
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Let's say that we make that deal in the same building as it plays out.
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Isaiah Simmons, oddly enough, ends up going to the Jets.
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So then, of going defense, they don't go address the offensive line.
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That's a little bit surprising to me.
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But as you look down the board, what happens? Andrew Tristan Worst goes, Andrew Thomas goes, the kind acting goes just before us.
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So now we sit there at 11 knowing that we're going to have, as you look great up here, 11th in the second round.
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Now we've given ourselves to picks four and 16.
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We also have 15 and 35 in the third round.
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Now, all of a sudden, with the way this board has fallen out, CD lamb.
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Jerry, Judy still both sitting there for us at the 11th pick.
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Because when you look down here and you think about where the offense and tackles that you could possibly be targeting, there's nobody left until you get down to it.
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Ezra Cleveland, 26th overall on the board.
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That's not something that I'm going to be willing to go after in this scenario.
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The top four guys have already come off.
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I don't think that a player like Azra Cleveland and you got unless Austin Jackson these aren't bad players, but they're not someone.
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You're gonna take it the 11th overall.
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So this might be a scenario where you think about going for a weapon.
00:23:06
For Daniel Jones, the reason why you don't go for ah weapon as a wide receiver if you stay at the fourth overall pick is because there's too much other talent that addresses bigger areas of need at that spot.
00:23:18
Now, when we sit here, though, you know you could go down to edge if you want to.
00:23:22
If you wanted to go that route, obviously we see Edge Rusher is listed above offensive tackle.
00:23:28
You could possibly take a flier on one of these edge rushers if you want to.
00:23:32
Lot of quality there.
00:23:33
You know, cornerback falls well down the list after we signed Bradbury in free agency.
00:23:38
So are we going to go down to see D A.
00:23:40
Henderson? We certainly all the sudden completely changed the dynamic there in that in that secondary group.
00:23:46
Yeah, but highly unlikely at just drafting DeAndre Baker last year.
00:23:51
You still have Sam deal.
00:23:52
You still have Julian love a lot of players in the mix, so you can see how this board falls a little bit differently.
00:23:58
Let's go.
00:24:00
Let's go ahead and say we would go for the weapon here.
00:24:03
Now What we have to consider is, where do we end up as we head into that second round? But rather than go too far down that line, let's reboot this up one more time and and as we do so, I'm gonna go ahead and we'll take a look here and see.
00:24:17
Can I Will I be able to.
00:24:21
I'm a I'm a go ahead and depart off the Facebook page and then just continue forward on SportsCastr as we as we try to work through some of these simulations.
00:24:30
So let's go ahead and start this round up again, see if we catch a top of the second round.
00:24:35
Any trade possibilities.
00:24:37
We once again get offers.
00:24:38
This time the Atlanta Falcons again.
00:24:40
The Denver Broncos show up here, both offering mid round picks in the second and the third to come down from the fourth overall.
00:24:48
Take a look at the best available players.
00:24:50
There's that swift lineup again.
00:24:52
You have some wide receivers available.
00:24:54
Quarterbacks are gonna be here.
00:24:56
Herbert has dropped all the way down.
00:24:58
It's in the second round based on some of the struggles that he had, Uh, you know, Listen, we took a wide receiver, so now we have to be thinking offensive line or potentially, It may be an edge rusher or something on the defense's side of the ball scrolling down.
00:25:14
You see, next one comes up, though you do have, I think, just before the others.
00:25:17
There's Lucas Niang.
00:25:18
You have Isaiah Wilson out of Georgia down on the list a little bit, but that's it.
00:25:23
Sluices you get here and we're still the top of the second round.
00:25:26
We could trade back or we could stand pat and make this election.
00:25:28
Remember, Now we supplemented what our opportunity is here to get a quality player in the door As we step away and reboot back to the start of this draft, we're gonna go ahead and say goodbye to our Facebook broadcast here.
00:25:43
But we will continue to run.
00:25:45
Uh, yeah, sure, it went, went great that we don't tell them how it went great.
00:25:50
The bottom line is, though, as we continue to move through the board here way, Take a look at what could potentially come here again.
00:25:59
Back at the top of the draft.
00:26:01
Let's try to keep focusing in on the first round.
00:26:04
We want to know whether or not the New York football Giants would take some of these opportunities.
00:26:09
So we'll try to reboot this from the start again.
00:26:12
See what kind of traction we get if anyth so.
00:26:16
Here you go.
00:26:17
This is another great one.
00:26:18
This is what we started to talk about before.
00:26:19
So this is why I'm finally, glad we got this one.
00:26:22
Trade opportunities come through to two teams come knocking and Dave Gettleman store on draft night with one of the 2nd 1 that we talked about was San Francisco 49.
00:26:32
But look at the package that they put together to make it up to 4/13 and 31st pick in the first round, as well as the 10th and 30th pick in the fifth round if they make that kind of move, but it's great.
00:26:43
But you're talking about a team that will select one player fourth overall in the first round, and then they won't pick again until the fourth round.
00:26:50
I just don't see that being likely.
00:26:52
Even though this isn't a team that necessarily has, you know, multiple needs, you can always be supplemented.
00:26:58
You could always be adding depth at any given position.
00:27:01
The other interesting one that you talk about will be the Atlanta Falcons, and this is that interesting scenario all the way down to 16 and you'll pick up 18th in the second of 14th in the third and 1/13 in the fourth round.
00:27:17
So you know when you think about the multiple first round picks that someone's gonna offer, obviously, some back in one's here by San Francisco.
00:27:25
But in the Atlanta scenario, you pick up an extra draft pick in every single round for the next three rounds, and those are the key ones.
00:27:32
Let's go ahead and accept that trade from Atlanta in this scenario and see how far down the list of available assets we land.
00:27:39
But it's time we pick at 16 overall.
00:27:42
So in this scenario you get, maybe I was only realistic.
00:27:46
But you can start to talk about some of those things that we think would play out.
00:27:50
Obviously, Borough Chase Young Simmons.
00:27:53
OK, Atlanta Falcons come up and they go defense his side of the bowl.
00:27:57
They bring in a Cuda, Dolphins, get to a the Chargers, hold off on the quarterback and go brown again.
00:28:04
You get tristian worse coming off the board.
00:28:06
There goes Andrew Thomas.
00:28:07
There goes my kind Vechten to Cleveland, and then the Jets in this one think realistically taken offensive tackle on judging will's.
00:28:15
There's the San Francisco 49 is right holding strong end up taking Henry rugs.
00:28:20
The third, Jerry Judy, folds into the lap of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
00:28:24
And there goes Josh Jones, probably that borderline top group of offensive linemen.
00:28:29
He's gonna be the next one that comes off after the initial group of four, and now we sit here at 16.
00:28:35
So what's changed for us? If you're thinking about the tree down scenario, no matter what you do, if you're gonna come down out of 10 or 11 then this really is.
00:28:43
What makes a lot of sense because, you see, still, that same group of defensive town is available for you.
00:28:50
Vanessa, Kenneth Murray Chase on that DeAndre Swift is in there.
00:28:55
From a talent standpoint, you don't expect unnecessarily to go this high and obviously even CJ Anderson, not necessarily for our taste, but McKinney is there Del Pit? Is there some wide receiver talents as well? And remember, as we scroll back up here and take a look at what we're gonna have four and 15 in the 2nd 14 and 35 in the third for and 13 in the fourth as well.
00:29:17
The reality about this here, too, is, and we'll go ahead and try to reboot this system again and see if we get another one of these different offers that we're hoping to be able to break down.
00:29:29
The reality about making a trade down like this and getting assets in the 2nd 3rd and fourth round in my mind means that we're going to have an opportunity for the Giants to package picks and target players.
00:29:42
So that's it.
00:29:43
That's your approach that you want, hopefully tohave.
00:29:46
Then all of a sudden, if you trade back to the middle of the first round, you identify the best available talent on your board and you take them.
00:29:53
Now you can turn around and say in the second round, who we may be looking at or potentially you want to get into the back into the first round, not unlike what Dave Gettleman did last year to get DeAndre Baker, If you If you like it and you want to make that move great.
00:30:09
Maybe you stand pat there in the second round.
00:30:11
But now you package up the mid third and our compensatory third and get yourself back up to the top of the third round into the back end of the second round because you maybe want to target a key offensive weapon at that point, Maybe the center position is is time to get a dress there as well.
00:30:27
And you don't want to miss out on the layer that you're at that you're looking to get after.
00:30:32
And those are the scenarios that you're going to have to you, By the way, figure out real time, and a lot of these dominoes fall in succession.
00:30:39
If you make the choice to trade down out of four overall and you have multiple first round assets, those two selections that you make there are going to dictate drastically how you're going to go in the 2nd 3rd 4th 5th and even into the sixth and seventh rank.
00:30:55
If you take a trade down scenario where it's getting you say, the Atlanta trade now, all the sudden we have our mid first, we get our early and mid second and early and mid third and early and mid fourth of a mid and late third and then early and mid fourth.
00:31:12
So much flexibility.
00:31:14
And with all those back and picks that you have four in the seventh round, you can start to move around that bored a lot and target the players that you're interested in where, at the end of the day, you come out of it may be saying we ended up getting five key players, not be the only number of players right now.
00:31:31
The giant sit there with 10 overall draft pick.
00:31:34
But if you came away with five quality players, Navy you No.
00:31:38
One in the 1st 2 in the second, and then you push up in the third and you push up maybe even in the back, into the third again with some fourth round assets.
00:31:49
And now you end up with five players out of the 1st 3 rounds, the impact that they could have on your roster.
00:31:57
Unlike what may happen at the 5th 6th or seventh round players where you're typically taking it.
00:32:01
Taking a look at a player, seeing if you can develop him and checking it over the course of a rookie contract, he can become a contributing on your team.
00:32:09
Now you're basically saying we brought in five assets, were gonna look across our roster and say, three starters and too heavy contributors with the potential to be starters down the road for us.
00:32:20
So that's some of the interesting and certainly exciting stuff.
00:32:23
Take a look here again, Rebooted another time came up with that Jets and San Francisco 40 Niners Trade offers Again I don't trying to assess the realistic nature of that San Francisco when it's tricky, if they really felt like they are truly one, pick away one player away from going from Super Bowl runner up to make Super Bowl champion in a year where we saw so many times that the Kansas City Chiefs played heartbreak.
00:32:51
A heart attack, you know, uh, for the fan base flowing behind all throughout the playoffs and still managed to come back still may come back and doing the Super Bowl as well.
00:33:02
A side note.
00:33:03
I didn't think that that was going to be possible against the San Francisco 40 Niners, and yet at the end of the day, they accomplished it.
00:33:08
So, um, here we go.
00:33:10
Once again, let's go ahead and share this one more time, and this will be the last board that we bring up before we check out of here for the and this is because I still get that Jets offer, interestingly enough, but here's the other one, and that's the Las Vegas Raiders 12 and 19.
00:33:26
Obviously, you're going to get some great opportunities.
00:33:29
Let's let's accept that one and just find out where they would look to go.
00:33:32
That fourth pick potential.
00:33:35
They can go.
00:33:36
They can go best player available here.
00:33:38
Look at that.
00:33:39
So in this one, not unlike last year, remember the selection that they made? They targeted the players that they wanted.
00:33:44
They made the moves after dealing Khalil Mack to make sure they got target.
00:33:49
Everyone they want.
00:33:50
It didn't matter what the outside perspective was.
00:33:51
They go after Kinloch.
00:33:53
Very valuable player, very too talented player.
00:33:56
And as we work our way down that board once again, check it out.
00:34:00
The Jets go ahead and give Sam Darnold, their young quarterback, a very big asset in Jerry Judy.
00:34:06
And now we find ourselves sitting there with some interesting choices.
00:34:10
Toe.
00:34:11
Once again, make Mukai Beckton is still gonna be there for us now at this 12 overall pick, and that means that you give yourself a great opportunity to still address the offensive line, and you're going to get that 19th overall pick where you could have some maneuverability.
00:34:25
So in this scenario, let's say that.
00:34:27
Well, let's say that we take the offensive tackle in Mukai Beck, and now we watch that board working, dressed the way down to the 19th overall pick where no trade offers come in.
00:34:38
And now we're sitting there again with a great opportunity and maybe take a look at some of these defensive players.
00:34:44
If you even wanted to say a tea Higgins, maybe you want to go offensive weapon or something along those lines.
00:34:50
So you see, though, how in every one of these scenarios, but you're giving yourself different opportunities to address needs, what in this particular 12 1st round selections, that means that we're at two.
00:35:03
A 243 35 484 and so on down the line.
00:35:07
We're not gonna have a lot of maneuverability when it comes to the rest of draft.
00:35:10
Can we package something's up and try to move around the board? Yes, but in these other multiple picks scenarios from Atlanta Falcons or wait, didn't get chance to see.
00:35:20
And I'll try to try to reboot this one again here to see if we get that Cleveland trade offer to come up for us, because again If you don't have those multiple assets to move around the board, then you're gonna be not stuck.
00:35:33
You know, you want to frame it in a way that makes it feel like we're talking about.
00:35:37
You're not gonna have a quality player to take.
00:35:39
But that gap is pretty big.
00:35:41
Once again, we run it.
00:35:42
We come up with the Jacksonville Jaguars and the Jets once again.
00:35:46
What? I mean, listen, it comes up enough time.
00:35:48
Do you have to start to think about whether or not there's a possibility there that the Jets would legitimately make an offer to the fourth overall? The hard part about that as well as we just on trying to see if I get this Cleveland want to come up because showing what kind of assets they give you is probably the last variation of multiple first round picks talking about 1st 2nd 3rd 4th from a couple of different teams going back into the mid first round.
00:36:13
But then the ah, the Cleveland Browns.
00:36:16
Let's take a look here.
00:36:17
Ah, so there you another one here.
00:36:19
Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 14th in the first and then rising round by round 13th 12th and then 11th in the fourth round, again collection of assets.
00:36:28
You see that the Raiders come up there once again? Let's just talk about it so I can actually go in here and say, Let's try to propose a trade We want to send that first overall pick to the Cleveland Brown we want in return is we want that 10th overall pick.
00:36:45
And realistically, you know most of these.
00:36:47
Most of these offers were talking about teams that are coming up.
00:36:51
Now.
00:36:52
You know that you had a team with the Jaguars willing to give you two first round selections there, right? Willing to give you nine and then also 20.
00:37:01
Typically, what we've seen here is those mid around 1st 1st selections.
00:37:06
Atlanta, Denver, Even the 11th right? We saw that from the Jets there 1st 2nd and third from the Jets.
00:37:13
And then when you get a little bit further down and you talk about Atlanta in Denver now they're willing to kick.
00:37:18
And also that fourth round selection for that now for the Cleveland Radley, sickly have been getting from them.
00:37:24
I'll show you this where it lays out the third at 10 and the third and 33 sometimes a little bit extra comes in on the back end, sometimes not.
00:37:34
You know, you may want to see if they're willing to give up the two at nine, at which point may be right for it.
00:37:41
Nine.
00:37:42
Too much too rich Trade trade automatically gets shut down.
00:37:45
I don't think it is a realistic option If you want that second round pick.
00:37:48
Let's go ahead and clear the board off and say, We just want your 10th overall the second at nine and the sixth round pick that one gets accepted, right? So now you're talking about maybe a little bit of a different wrinkle here, where you're giving yourself that 10th now in the second round to get four and nine, you're a little bit tighter.
00:38:09
Still a big layoff there in the third round before you get to select what you do, back yourself up with an extra sixth round pick.
00:38:17
And while that may not seem like that big of a deal, one of the things will do on our way out here is let's go ahead.
00:38:24
Just walk through this real quick 10th overall out where we sit in here, we take Christian worse.
00:38:28
We love it, right? Let's let that go ahead and rotate its way through in the background there because I just want to kind of quickly get through these couple of rounds and then just talk about what happens in terms of some tree potential.
00:38:41
And I could actually play them out on the front end without having to work our way all the way through this draft.
00:38:47
So we can see here second round, first round, finishing up and and we get over in the second round.
00:38:55
Let's take a look at what happens.
00:38:56
We took Tristan worse.
00:38:57
We feel like he's an animal.
00:38:58
He's an athlete, He's mauler, you know.
00:39:01
We trust him to go into the tackle position.
00:39:02
That's how we approach, right? Start that round All now.
00:39:08
We have two picks in the 1st 10 at the start of this second round.
00:39:11
New trade offers talk through an offensive line the first.
00:39:14
Now we want to get something else going here in a couple different opportunities.
00:39:18
I'm gonna say, Denzel men, we're gonna go wide receiver and give We're gonna give Daniel Jones another weapon there in that wide receiver group at nine we get a couple of trade offers, we get the opportunity potentially to trade down with Buffalo, who will give us a late second and a late third.
00:39:34
And then Minnesota comes up with a pretty big offer here of a second and tooth third round selection.
00:39:40
Old back in stuff.
00:39:41
But still, we've already made a nice selection here for ourselves.
00:39:45
Maybe we want to gather up some assets.
00:39:48
Let's decline it.
00:39:49
Let's take a look at our board.
00:39:50
We talk about still needing a lot of things.
00:39:52
Edge Rusher is obviously going to be a player that we're going to be an area of need for us.
00:39:58
And do we have the assets in order to make that happen? If we don't go there now, you know, worrying about some players falling off.
00:40:06
So let's just say we're sitting here.
00:40:11
We like what we see.
00:40:12
Eggs.
00:40:13
A viewer. McKinney has fallen to us. Fantastic.
00:40:15
Now, before this plays out, what we want to think about here is from click over to the edge rusher category.
00:40:22
Curtis Weaver Talk about Wara from Notre Dame.
00:40:26
Zuniga from Florida.
00:40:28
Strobridge is there from from North Carolina, and you see how their ranking out, though, they get Darryl Thomas and so on down the line.
00:40:37
But we also realize how long we're gonna have to wait from ninth in the second round all the way down to the third.
00:40:44
So now you think about is is there an opportunity for us to propose a tree to a team? What we say? OK, got that third pick a 35? We've also got shoes, sixth round selections, and let's just see, for argument's sake, we went ahead and took a look at Let's say this Cincinnati Bangles right, Because what are they gonna have available for us? The first pick overall in the third round? So pose that trade gets shot down.
00:41:15
Didn't think it was gonna necessarily have.
00:41:17
Let's take out that sixth round pick.
00:41:19
Let's make it 1/4 round selection for ourselves that gets accepted.
00:41:24
Now that may be a little bit too rich, right? Giving up, Ah, the back end, third and the start of the fourth plus one of our sixth round picks.
00:41:31
But because we traded back and had multiple six were able to package up and get ourselves to the top of the third round toe have a quality player.
00:41:42
Let's just try this again here and talk about looking at fourth pick.
00:41:47
Let's say we want to Let's try to get our fourth pick back now from there when we say you know what, Well, go ahead and we'll give you our sixth round pick.
00:41:56
We're also going to give you two of our seventh round selections.
00:42:02
Gets the client.
00:42:03
Didn't think it didn't think it was necessarily gonna happen there, Right, Because we're not giving them a ton of assets.
00:42:08
Let's move it up into 1/5 round.
00:42:09
Selection still gets declined, so we still can't quite get there.
00:42:14
Maybe best opportunity we can say we have is to throw that six round or Adam.
00:42:19
We still can't get there.
00:42:20
So we're stuck a little bit in terms of moving around this board after we made this little leap here to get to the top of the third, only other to opportunity.
00:42:31
But you can certainly talk about would be to say, Let's move ourselves.
00:42:34
Try one more move here, top of the seventh round.
00:42:38
So there we go when we get there.
00:42:39
So we ended up sending along.
00:42:41
There was top of the seventh round pick.
00:42:43
He also sent our sixth and our fifth to get back up to the top of the fourth.
00:42:48
Let's play this out.
00:42:49
Second round is working in the background now.
00:42:52
We can just kind of let that play itself out here for a minute, working our way through the later stages.
00:42:57
You see some centers coming off the board.
00:42:59
There goes some of those edge rushers that we talked about pull back up here and it's think, Think about what we've done so far.
00:43:05
We've addressed offensive line.
00:43:07
We've addressed wide receiver may be too early in the draft, potentially for our liking, but we also get ourselves a nice player and egg Xavier McKinney.
00:43:16
Flip it over.
00:43:19
Cleveland Browns wanted offer something for the first.
00:43:21
We don't care about that.
00:43:22
We've made our move.
00:43:24
Here's why. It's important.
00:43:25
And again, these air.
00:43:26
None of these things on the selections that I'm making or are you are you know, based on any of the extra research that we've been and I've been doing on these drafts when you look at this now, all of a sudden we're still gonna have our top of the third and top of the fourth by being at the top of the third ran.
00:43:42
It means that we have an opportunity.
00:43:44
Take a look down this list here and honestly, it doesn't really pan out for us.
00:43:48
I mean, you know, Strobridge, first edge rusher that we see and at the top of the third round were honestly talking about being where Top of the top of the third round.
00:43:59
We're talking about sitting there at the 65th 95th plus compensatory range.
00:44:05
So there's a number is gonna be about 30 players there.
00:44:08
Some of them have hung around.
00:44:09
They're still available with safety position.
00:44:11
But how about this Right here? Right.
00:44:13
Bigger.
00:44:14
We sit here and we say, You know, we ended up with We ended up with that.
00:44:18
We decline all trades.
00:44:20
We ended up being able to address our center position of need and without making that trade up, we're not going to have the opportunity to do so.
00:44:27
So that's pretty important There.
00:44:29
He paused this draft briefly.
00:44:31
Take a look and say, This is this is this is a very loose firing from the hip kind of thing just so you could see some of the many opportunities you have, you're not gonna necessarily do these kind of movements all in one draft.
00:44:45
Any of these decisions can get made on a draft to draft basis.
00:44:50
We pause it here in the third round.
00:44:52
The reason why it let's think about what else we need, still says, We need edge.
00:44:56
I know linebacker is listed, but I can make a case of brought in guys and free agency.
00:45:00
The edges is a player of So as we scroll down right, BC Strobridge keep moving.
00:45:07
We see Darryl Top Taylor out of Tennessee, also there.
00:45:11
Let's say that we wanted to target one of them.
00:45:14
If we want to lock into that player, you know, it's a long ways away here, sitting at three for eight, trying to package up the fourth and those 3/7 potentially to get ourselves up. There is a possibility.
00:45:26
The reason why you think about it as we go ahead and play here starts to run itself through.
00:45:31
We see some wide receivers coming off the board.
00:45:33
There goes a couple of Senators, guards, players that we've addressed now in our need.
00:45:38
Curiosity is, do we get there, boom.
00:45:40
There it was Detroit Lions, right? Detroit Lions right there.
00:45:44
Grabbed Jason Strobridge.
00:45:46
So one of those available edge rushers is gone.
00:45:49
We see some more linebackers go off the board.
00:45:51
There goes another one.
00:45:53
Pause.
00:45:54
Once again, Willie Gay junior goes to the Tennessee Titans at the back end of the third round.
00:45:58
Another nice player could contribute on the defensive front and then bang.
00:46:02
There it is again.
00:46:03
Calls it one more time.
00:46:04
Cleveland Browns get Daryll Taylor, the 33rd pick in the third round.
00:46:09
So you can see how old a sudden by waiting that long, little bit there.
00:46:14
We don't have an opportunity, necessarily.
00:46:16
You address that need and then what we potentially get left with.
00:46:19
Take a look here as the round wraps up all those compensatory picks.
00:46:24
By the way, you know, 10 total picks get added onto the back end of this third round in the draft this year.
00:46:30
Now here, we're gonna come up.
00:46:32
Where we gonna go? A lot of safeties running back guard, center linebacker comes up there and Brooks, and then it's a long wait, right? All of a sudden, you're starting again to a bit of a difficult scenario, regardless of whether or not you made the train down at any point along the way, you can see how by the time you get to this fourth round, addressing certain areas of need are going to become more and more difficult.
00:46:56
So that needy part of the draft this is a draft.
00:46:59
It is very rich from high into the first round.
00:47:02
Obviously, it's fun in town when you talk about from the mid second to mid third.
00:47:10
There is a ton of talent there, and specifically when you talk about linebacker and edge rushers.
00:47:14
And also this wide receiving group has some talent there as well.
00:47:18
Center can be lumped in there, though you can push it back a little bit further into the third and fourth round.
00:47:25
This is the bull care you need to address need, and when you lose that pic to the Leonard Williams trade, you can see how it affects you.
00:47:32
That's why the trade down offers the top of the second need to be thought about.
00:47:36
And that's why, depending on what you do in the first, you have to consider these offers as well.
00:47:42
This has been what I like to call Roaming, broadcast, covering some of the potential opportunities.
00:47:47
I want to thank everybody for checking in with us.
00:47:49
Obviously, this was just something fun to try to try to give you a little bit of insight, as we had mentioned Prior Asai.
00:47:56
Give a little bit of a shoutout, Thio, Little Alyosha and also comfy socks.
00:48:02
Hello, Run and hide Hot Carlos. Hi Tribute.
00:48:06
40 Niners fan.
00:48:08
Could be it fans.
00:48:09
Well, those guys bounce around a little bit.
00:48:11
Ah, and then also summer's 44 07 Pleasure to have you all involved here.
00:48:17
Reason why we want to do this.
00:48:18
Little bit of a tease, as they like to say in the business, as we mentioned come Monday morning, will have broken down or fully developed and flushed out researched seven round mock draft the New York football Giants.
00:48:30
You saw how many trade opportunities we had.
00:48:32
Top of the top of the first round with the Jaguars, Denver Broncos, Atlanta Falcons, New York Las Vegas Raiders thrown in the mix there as well.
00:48:41
Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
00:48:42
So a lot of opportunities to potentially move down in this draft and build up some more assets and we've also displayed for the opportunity group picks together and move up.
00:48:52
That board is also going to be an opportunity that we can take over.
00:48:56
That's gonna do it here for us.
00:48:58
On the one giant podcast live streaming on SportsCastr.
00:49:01
As always, we remind you to head over to Instagram and Twitter.
00:49:04
Follow us at one giant podcast.
00:49:06
All the information around those episodes will be coming out and we'll be nice companion pieces on instagram following each of those episodes.
00:49:13
A good post is breaking down and these selections my selections So you can kind of see that concise list of where we went.
00:49:21
And if any movement was made on these boards, what we gave up and what we received back potential and then, of course, beyond that, always head over to iTunes and we ever get your podcast, fulfill down the rate reviewing, subscribe to the podcast.
00:49:34
We appreciate all the support that you give us coming up this week alongside of those mock draft scenarios we're also going to be trying to touch base was act from Giants 24 7 again as well as a potential guest on the show not yet confirmed but it's going to be a fantastic surprise for you all.
00:49:53
They call that Ty's Once again, we're very excited to be lying this guest up sensually.
00:49:58
We won't say anything official until it has become ah, set in stone.
00:50:03
Until then.
00:50:04
As always.
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Thank you for joining us here.
00:50:06
We will touch up with you soon.
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