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00:00:16
And with that, we welcome you back into the We got nits Podcasts coming to you live as always on the SportsCastr platform.
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Happy once again to be talking a little bit Nets, basketball, talking next history.
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Really, If you followed us on our last episode, we came in and on highlighted Kenny Anderson were kind of basically going through.
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I tried too truncated to about the last 25 years of Obviously, I extended a little bit for Kenny Anderson sake.
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Really? What you're getting is Ah, inside of my upbringing as a New Jersey and now Brooklyn Nets fan with the ever watchful eye of myself and signori over my shoulder.
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There is a bear just overhead.
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This is just, you know, we're Listen, we're in weird times so a lot of shifting areas of the office slash workspace slash apartment that were trying to broadcast from to make sure we continue to bring you a lot of quality content.
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Nori, If you listen to our last episode, he had to do a lot of shifting of gears in order to get himself and really his family into a healthy and safe space for for themselves during this pandemic.
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Thankfully, he's gotten all that squared away, so we'll continue to ramp things up on that and as well.
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But as I had said, we're gonna be coming back in with these and the title should give it away.
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We're gonna be talking about favorite point cards and you can't go too far down the list before you come across Jason Kidd.
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And this isn't being listed in any type of hierarchy in terms of I think that this point guard is better than that, right? I'm not gonna come out and tell you the Jeremy Lin is the greatest point guard in Nets franchise history, but it's just really again connecting to my youth as I came up with this team and some of the players.
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That, of course, really sparked the love off the Nets fan base as a whole.
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So you know, Listen, obviously we know Jason Kidd.
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We know what he accomplished with the Nets once he came over, and we'll do the same thing, just like last time.
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Let's go ahead and get some of those highlights up and running.
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We'll give a little bit of brief background and history around Jason Kidd, and then we're gonna dive in on the stat numbers, not just about what he did strictly when he's with the Nets, but really, what did he do? Also previous.
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How did how did his time with New Jersey stack up relative to the rest of his career, obviously had an incredible career plate for number.
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Different teams came in with the Mavericks early on, but we'll get into all that first and foremost as we throw some highlights up here for you going all the way back to his college days with the Golden Bears.
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You can enjoy a little bit a little taste of that as we start to think about some of the information about this particular player, where he's come from, where he's going, right well.
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And as you also know, too, by the way, a brief New Jersey observing Brooklyn Nets head coach as well under Billy King at the time.
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So that obviously didn't pan out.
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Maybe the way that everyone had hoped, but went and played with Golden Bears.
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They run some of those college highlights for you and, you know, in his first season with the Golden Bears, average 7.
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7 assists game away with 13 points a game, almost five rebounds as well and nearly four steals to go along with it.
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So certainly did a nice job.
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However, they did fall.
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Ah, excuse me.
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They were up there.
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They had upset two time defending national championship and the Chargers.
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Make sure I get my Ducks in a row here.
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And that was Duke in the second round of the tournament before losing in Kansas in the Sweet 16.
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So had a little bit of, Ah, some of that prowess for the big game.
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The big stage.
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Obviously, this is a a point guard that was highly touted coming out of college.
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There was no real mystery around that.
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Ah, he was selected, of course, as the second pick overall by the Dallas Mavericks.
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And that was behind a Glenn Robinson, who came out of producer that year and just ahead of Grant Hill.
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So not a bad little sandwich to be in between there in terms of just players.
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Then when you come out your draft class, you would get associated with those guys as you play out your career.
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And sometimes you can even get compared to them by the back end of your career.
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Now, in the first year, though, he averaged.
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That's Jason Kidd.
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Almost 12 points per game.
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5.
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5 rebounds, 7.
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7 assists.
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Similar number Because that's what he did his first year at college as well.
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Led the league in triple doubles and shared the 95 NBA rookie of the year's honors with Grant Hill a CZ.
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He came out with the Detroit Pistons to start his career.
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Now, the interesting thing is that, really, I mean, Jason Kidd balances around over the course of his career.
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When you think about it, he goes.
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He's only in Dallas from 94 to 96 goes to Phoenix from 96 toe 01 and many hits Our time with the New Jersey Nets starting in 2001 plays with us all the way until 2008 so the scan through drop back with the Mavericks course from a way to 2012 went on to the next for one season.
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And then it was off to retirement and started his coaching career first, of course, with the Brooklyn Nets and then went to Milwaukee for four seasons there as well, and now finds himself as the assistant head coach on the only Laker.
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So his coaching career now and really think about it, is already is everybody a 70 years almost into his nd a coaching career, so shifted gears immediately following the professional career to get into the action.
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But you know the strange thing about it as it started to look through.
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You go through the history and you think back to some of the names that maybe aren't as familiar A Z would think right? At least not initially in your mind.
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Obviously, Jason Kidd's an automatic one there as I pause on a beautiful freeze frame of LeBron James there.
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But the interesting thing was, you think about Jason Kidd and in the time since using kid is gone, you've had your Devin Harris is You've had your ah, you're Darrin Williams.
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You Now we have Kyrie Irving you had Stefan Marbury in the mix.
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There is Well, you know, the cast of characters that rotates through at the point guard position for the next really has been a fluid position for them when Jason Kidd comes in in 2001 1st of all, it's a get right.
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You know, 2001 relative to when he started his career that's basically entering his prime, and the Nets were able to bring into New Jersey.
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Obviously cost us a pretty penny to do so, but we were able to get him in the door and for a franchise, especially when you're based in New Jersey.
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And I'll tell you being from New Jersey, where we have to NFL football teams that play here, but they don't associate with New Jersey.
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They say We're the New York Giants with New York Jets, and I'm a Giants fan.
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You know when we have the New Jersey Devils and you can hang your hat on that and feel really good about it.
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If you're a soccer fan, the Red Bulls, they've had some success as well, but we talk about the N B. A.
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New Jersey is not.
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It's not a big cash, a state, right? Even though you're close to the media market, if you don't do what the football team's doing, associate yourself with New York.
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You're really kind of closing off some of the opportunity to cash in on that.
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So the fact that the Nets were able t get Jason Kidd into the building was an accomplishment in and of itself.
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Now you want to talk about stance here.
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I want to start to go through and think about what he was able to accomplish before we get back to the highlight reel.
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And ultimately, what it meant in terms of getting to the Finals.
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Unfortunately, coming up short in those opportunities, but a really, really successful run, obviously, for the Nets franchise with Jason Kidd at the helm.
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So you talk about when he gets in here.
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You run through starts there in Dallas, rotates through Phoenix, and then he comes to New Jersey that old 102 season.
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You think about the number of games that he played 1st 2 seasons, 82 80 takes a couple of few games off their over, though three toe five seasons.
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But then again, 80 games a year for those that included there.
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Ah got Toronto throw into the mix of 80 games over the last two seasons of his career.
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What was that? Their Ah, But when you talk about the numbers right, let's think about where he stacked up relative to other points in his career.
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Let's go field goal percentage to start here.
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His best field goal percentage is common.
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You look through it.
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Phoenix, Dallas, Phoenix, Dallas Nets gets mixed in there.
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A second season with the Nets shot 41% from the field.
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Best shooting season was 98 99 with Phoenix and his second stop, where he shot 44% from the field.
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Sergeant run down the list.
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You can see the Phoenix really showing up there four times out of the 1st 7 so he had a really nice shooting touch when he was in Phoenix.
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But New Jersey is mixed in there as well.
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0607 as well as 0506 Always shot above you. Think about his career.
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Shot 40% from the field for his career, so he was hitting his career numbers there.
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You think about the off years that he has.
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Really? You're talking about the back end of his career, right? Dallas? Oh, you know, bottom feeders 10 11 had a little bit of an uptick, and by a little bit I mean 110.
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2% of the year after that in Dallas, shooting 36 37 with next.
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The year, the House, his final year of his career.
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And then you go back all the way to his second season in the embassy when he shot 38% with the Dallas Mavericks and then 0304 mixed in a bad season there with the Nets as well, but more good than bad and basically average shooting performance for in terms of his career numbers.
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By the way, when you're talking about a range by the time you're finished, 36% was the worst shooting percentage he ever had. 44.
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His best but needy part of the curve for the most part of every single one of his stocks.
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Now the interesting one that I want to take a look at was going to be, ah, the three point shooting percentage because he had a tendency with the New Jersey next to get some of those late game shot heroics.
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Some of those really chuck up kind of three balls that we're going down for him.
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But when you go inside the numbers, Great year over 405 shooting, 36 6% made by his standards.
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09 No.
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10 with Dallas shot 42% from three.
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Oh, you know, nine.
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Your prior to that shot 40%.
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So leader in his career.
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Excuse me later, his career really came around in terms of having that perimeter shot.
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Developing Maura, that outside game for himself but in terms of his Nets performances stays away from the complete bottom dwelling here. But no.
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102103 or four of those first couple of years only shot 32% and then mixes in there in the middle of the pack.
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Once again, 0405 Being the best with the Nets of 36 there as well.
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You don't listen.
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Free throw Shooting was obviously a staple of his game, and you can see his second best career year.
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84% was with the nets in 0203 You go down a list.
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I mean, listen free throw shooting isn't really gonna complete your skirt up.
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So we'll skip right past that and go to the assistant.
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Remember? Averaged just under eight assists per game his rookie season best.
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Two years for him, though.
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We're going to come in Phoenix and 98 99 when he has 10 nearly 11 assists per game and then 10 assists per game.
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Bunt in New Jersey gets in the top for their average, almost basically 10 there in his first season and then, relatively speaking, 03 or four sprinkled in back to back there with those 607 plus nine assists in occur first career average, 8.7 assists.
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Now again, you're gonna hurt yourself a little bit.
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Playing 76 games with the New York Knicks in your final season.
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48.
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You know, in Dallas.
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Although he did have the lowest, Curry said about Lois first year with Dallas, that would mark his third lowest assist average for a season in his entire career.
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Now, New Jersey has some of those lesser ones mixed in 8 8.
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5 There for a couple of seasons, but they get that nice nine assists season there, and then you talk about those back to back words averaging overnight as well.
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So for a guy who played out to an 888.
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7 assists per game average, the Nets, when his time here did mortal of that, that he didn't last but not least wanted to touch on the steals.
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Of course, real quick here again, you think about you had the 0607 was a low hanging fruit for him, but some top two, it was there to produce steals per game, going along with it.
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And then the points numbers will obviously be that big. One.
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Best average points per game came in 0203 with your New Jersey Nets giving you nearly 19 points a game, almost two full points higher than any other season in his career again, those Phoenix years were good ones for him.
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98 99 4001 were really good for him.
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And again, though, you see where those next season stack up here.
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0405 to 1 4002 seasons.
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The old three or four seasons.
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So his entire Nets career plays pretty high up there until in terms of points per game and then towards that back end when he's 33 years old in 2007.
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That's when you're playing out, you know, 13 points a game, and that's gonna be the lowest.
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Totally ever have the Nets.
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That's his final season with the Nets as well.
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So interesting to see you know how he kind of tapered off their interns a shooting performances and just take a look if there's any out liars.
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Uh, but, uh, not for the most part, you know, stayed consistent, just taper off as as he got older.
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There really weren't any out liars outside of the fact that you'd say, you know, 95 96 with Dallas.
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That second season, 16.
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6 points per game, is fourth best shooting for scoring performance in his career.
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And that's mixed in there with relatively, you know, later on.
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27 u Z.
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29 25 years old, 27 but 22 years old, very strong year for himself.
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And you think about the years that he was with the Nets, obviously you know, comes in there.
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We take a look at that old 1 to 28 years old.
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You know, if you're if you're you know, the other thing is too will come back to my beautiful face.
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And the other thing is, do you think about 28 years, old boy? Then you get him.
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Ah, year earlier.
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You're probably getting yourself.
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You know, it's a little bit more of that prime.
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And you wonder the impact that could have had on what the Nets were able to accomplish.
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Maybe free agents that you're able to track etcetera back in.
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Just one second Here is I want to make sure we do not go power free down the home stretch.
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Yeah, why all the bells and whistles? Right.
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So you don't listen The numbers of the numbers We said this about Kenny Anderson.
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I was talking about just how that felt.
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Toe have a guy like him, uh, initially the start of his career, where you thought it could go for you.
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We'll get that highlight packages running again, and we'll get ah, LeBron James's face off of there.
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Shuttle Realty through After speaking about him.
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If you look through it.
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Hopefully, this video isn't too choppy there for you, but you think about it.
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It's the incredible court vision.
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The passing, the fakes behind the back there is highly here from Phoenix.
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Sunday's the little pop shot there in the New Jersey Nets.
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Guy.
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Those were some good uniforms there.
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And then think about his time, right, running with Kenyon Martin and having Richard Jefferson out there on the wing.
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Those little flips where you're getting such a beautiful place and then you know, the other side of that is to you can sit there and talk about you know, the numbers and how a player is to statistically.
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The other piece of the dough to is the hustle, you know, and you always think about.
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My memory is always off Michael Jordan at the end of his career, playing for the Wizards as they show that little trap three.
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I know, and I know, by the way, actually, when we showed on the highlight package the other day, we just showed some top plays from Jason Kidd.
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But you don't think back to uh, ST Michael Jordan when he when he was playing for the Washington Wizards The thing that always stuck out to me was this.
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This is ingrained in my mind.
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Michael Jordan is playing in the game.
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I can tell you one game loose ball goes towards the sidelines.
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It's on the ground going at a dance and Michael Jordan at whatever it was late thirties and 40 years old.
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I think the last season in his career dies down on the ground.
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That ends up splitting his chin, trying to dive down and save the ball from going out of bounds.
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And when he gets back up, though, he's in the face of his teammates on the bench because you're talking about a guy who's 15 20 years older than some of these kids, kids on the team.
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And he's still showing all the all of the heart and hustle that you want every single play.
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And when you think about what it takes to win and that's something we'll talk about this right.
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The late Kobe Bryant talk about this all outwork you, right? I'll out hustle you.
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I will out Ah, we're all working in the gym a lot.
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Work you in the film room, all out work you on the court in the game.
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A lot work to trash talking.
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Whatever it is, I'm going to do that and we don't We don't know that the players in any sport that play the highest level always talk about wanting to be the best.
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And I wanted to be the best.
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Doesn't mean I want to make it to the MBA, wanting to be the best man I want to make to the MBA.
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And I want to beat everybody every single night out on the court now Jason Kidd.
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You know, I think it was a tremendous hustle, but there was also elegance and beauty to Jason Kidd's game.
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You think about the passing in the court vision and what that allowed for, you know, just in terms of some of the opportunities to see.
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There it is that beautiful little dropoff pass right, flashing in behind his Vince Carter.
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Everything talking something.
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Great years, man.
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Playing with having Vince Carter on the court with Jason Kidd having Kenyon Martin, you know, it's interesting to think Kenyon Martin, obviously, you know, one of the players that I think about when I think about Kenyon Martin and I love him by the way.
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But I always used to think about I could think about DeAndre Jordan now and being the product.
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You know, the byproduct of the teams that you play on in some of the opportunities that he has.
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They showed the Yao Ming highlight back in his Ah Dallas days, Yao Ming trying to guard against the inbounds play, and Jason Kidd still finds an alley oop opportunity in spite of Yao Ming defending the inbounds play.
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We go, Shawn marrying there, that he gets it to an all you can do if you're Yao Ming is have a laugh there.
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That was the one of those beautiful plays right there to the flying through the air tipped pass over the head to a streaking Richard Jefferson, who goes in for the flush.
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But, you know, I just I mentioned it about Kenny Anderson and how he was one of those first players.
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See, saw Brian Scalabrine, I think, flashed through on the screen, one of my all time favorite, but the the thing that gets you excited as a fan, I think, especially when you're young fan, is some of these beautiful planes, just some of the magic that a player can create.
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Doug and I talked about in the last episode of the podcast.
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We were having that discussion around when you think think was on Reddit thread on the N.
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D A.
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Could you score 20 points, 10 assists, five rebounds over 82 game season.
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And sometimes you know when you're watching an N V a game or any sport a professional sport, you watch it and you go.
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How could you drop that ball? How could you miss that shot? How could you not? Right? Because everything see, everything is relatively simple when you're when you're watching professional sports.
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But then sometimes you get players like LeBron James and you get players, allows you to stay there.
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Joey would be in Russian the terrible example of it.
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But you get some of these freak athletes or that cream of the crop top of the class and they're given sport.
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And they start to do then is like watching Michael Jordan play watching Kobe Bryant play watching even Shaquille O'Neal just for the sea, sheer size of the man and what he's able to physically do, especially early in his career.
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When you see guys like that, that that that or playing at such a high level and doing things that other players are are not capable of doing.
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That's what makes you take the big step back and go.
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I'm seeing something here, right? And when Jason Kidd came to the Nets, it was like opening up your mind and just realizing how talented players could be at the N B A level.
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And when you think about that run that they went on making the playoffs consistently year after the year, getting to the finals, never winning the chip.
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You want to talk about being on a hang your hat on something? If the Nets have been able to win in the Jason Kidd Air win a championship, the outlook of this franchise, I think, would have drastically changed over that next.
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You know he leaves Alito nine.
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The next five or six seasons would have looked a lot different.
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Rotating cast of characters not necessarily be able to get the pieces that you want to put together there.
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At the very least, For a family standpoint, you would have been first of all, even though I think fans hold Jason getting high esteem.
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He would have been crowned the king of the Nets organization, and I think you'll be talking about putting a statue out there, probably in in front of Barclay Center at some point for him.
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If he was able to do that over that run, um, wait, the level of excitement to watch every game every single night when Jason Kidd was leading this team was absolutely phenomenal.
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I mean, it was epic stuff.
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And the other thing that I want to take a look at here and I'll go ahead and run some just a few more highlights in the background.
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While I just want to try to see if I can pull this up, I don't think one guy as the sample here that's a little bit tricky as well, because you are talking about, you know, players transitioning, you know, different times in their career.
00:22:38
And really, you know where they end up landing.
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So as we take a look here and I'll just I'll peek my head in.
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Oh, yeah, that's gonna be the highlight package anyway, So we'll go ahead and get ourselves pulled out of there.
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Come back into it when I want to take a look at real quick.
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Here is Richard Jefferson stat lines for his career, and that's what I thought would be just interesting to see.
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So now Richard Jefferson comes in No.
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102 So he starts his career with Jason Kidd, and this is what I mean by a little bit tricky, right? Because he basically plays that place for Jason Kidd's entire stint with the Nets.
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Richard Jefferson's there.
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Then he moves on to Milwaukee, goes through a couple of other handful of teams, ends up ultimately winning a championship, uh, as a member of the Cleveland Cavaliers.
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But when you think about his career numbers, this is what I wanted.
00:23:27
Kind of kind of highlight here later his career.
00:23:30
He really turns on the three point shooting percentage, eh? So you're not gonna go overboard with that? Uh, really kind of better shoot religion as well.
00:23:38
But taking with New Jersey numbers 05 or six 50 53% from the field.
00:23:46
Let's give it a two point percentage overall field goal percentage, though 0203 50%.
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0304 49% 0506 49%.
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20 Ozy goes into Santos was hard with Spurs.
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San Antonio Spurs there for a couple of seasons, that New Jersey pops right back up there.
00:24:05
27 46% 43 out of his top three performances from shooting percentage come with the New Jersey Nets.
00:24:13
Hey, and then four out of his top six and five out of his top eight or all with the New Jersey Nets.
00:24:20
Yeah, and the reason why you could say relatively, it's worth highlighting.
00:24:23
Is that 24 years old with a net that's one of the low hanging fruit? They're about 28 prime of his career with Milwaukee.
00:24:29
Not a good shooting performance season for him.
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Even 26 with New Jersey there.
00:24:33
But the best years of his career And it stands for, you know, stands to reason because he's he's young.
00:24:40
He's gonna be bullet.
00:24:41
The value was get out and run right.
00:24:44
Get out and run and let Jason Kidd did that.
00:24:46
Bull let him go ahead and just makes that thing up.
00:24:50
The fast break opportunities that you had energies and kids beyond Epic man.
00:24:56
I thought about going into specific games and you know and goings on finals, and I probably will at some point on here, But you're actually going back.
00:25:06
When we talked about when Kyrie Irving got onto the court for the first time with the next Doug and I didn't episode about what we said, you're watching these last couple of years and you're seeing the hard hustle on the great that this team's playing with, and it's phenomenal.
00:25:20
And then you get a guy like Kyrie Irving on the court.
00:25:23
This is a guy that's another life.
00:25:24
Another level of anybody have had on this roster.
00:25:27
And all of a sudden you turn around, you go.
00:25:30
You know, what am I watching here? Right? The court vision, the ball control, the handle, this skills inside the lane, the ability to create his own shot.
00:25:39
That's what Jason Kidd was back started in 121 2002.
00:25:43
It was okay.
00:25:45
We got something different here, and all of a sudden, those pieces around on the Kenyan Martin, the Richard Jefferson's.
00:25:51
Even when Vince Carter came late, leaders certainly not.
00:25:55
You know, he had had a long career prior to coming to New Jersey, but also you just saw the elevation that other players play at Jason Kidd for me was just no, maybe the re ignition of loving the next right cause you're fighting through some difficult seasons leading up to that.
00:26:15
You know, you talk about it again.
00:26:16
We have highlighted it in terms of intern season trying.
00:26:23
Pull it up real quick in terms of where the team and been and where you hope that it could go right.
00:26:29
So we'll take a look here and then we'll get out on that.
00:26:31
No, we did it with Kenny Anderson as well.
00:26:33
Remember Kenny Anderson those early years? Right now, those are some good seasons for the Nets on.
00:26:39
We'll talk about just briefly here, where they're succeed.
00:26:41
Six seed, you know, getting into the playoffs, finishing with over 500 record, obviously, uh, two years in a row, their seventh seed the following year in 93 94.
00:26:52
It always up visually for you, so just take my word for it.
00:26:55
But in terms of the Jason Kidd era bony, he walks in the door.
00:27:01
When he comes in, you go from being 16 and 34 31 51 26 56 at 16 and 34 is obviously a shortened year.
00:27:12
98 99.
00:27:13
But I mean just disastrous in terms of records.
00:27:16
Bang you lose in the final That first year, 52 30 record first in the Eastern Conference win lost their 11 and nine in the playoffs.
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You losing the MBA? Can't be acting on what that number is there.
00:27:31
Excuse me, but you know, losing the N B A finals the very next year.
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49 33.
00:27:36
You finished second in the East.
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You lose in the n B A finals again, you lose in the Eastern Conference semifinals the following year.
00:27:42
47 35.
00:27:44
Oaf 405 years, 42 40.
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You finished eighth seed in the East.
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You end up getting swept out there.
00:27:50
Lost in the Eastern Conference finals round.
00:27:53
Wants me. That is correct.
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First year 11 and nine. The playoffs.
00:27:56
14 and six.
00:27:57
That second year seven and four followed up.
00:28:00
Then you get swept.
00:28:01
You come back the next season of 506 they're going back in and 49 33 0607 You get to 41 41 6 seed.
00:28:10
You lose in the conference semi.
00:28:12
So think about it over over those 1st 123456 seasons that they were.
00:28:17
There are the Jason Kidd is their leading this team.
00:28:20
Here they go.
00:28:21
Finals, obviously you lose.
00:28:23
But finals Finals Eastern Conference entities First round Eastern Conference Emmys Eastern Conference semifinals Easily one of the best errors that we've had.
00:28:34
And you know you don't you don't see this again following that.
00:28:37
06 or seven season.
00:28:38
You don't get back into qualifying until 2012 2013.
00:28:42
Obviously, make that big push.
00:28:43
We bring in some big names on you.
00:28:46
Go 49 33 44 38 on than 30 and 44 in spite of the fact of a losing record.
00:28:51
Still get the eighth seed in a nasty Little Eastern conference there, you know, before getting back in this past year in the 2018 2019.
00:28:59
But you know, when you think about the next you know the Nets franchise again, go back there.
00:29:03
Those early nineties, that's when they were doing work.
00:29:06
Prior to that, you had to go all the way back to 85 the last time they had made it.
00:29:09
So they go to sleep there from 81 to 85.
00:29:13
They're in the playoffs.
00:29:14
Then they have five years before they make it back.
00:29:17
Three year stretch where you get in the dance and three years off you pop up once they're in 97 98 43 39 where you lose in the first round.
00:29:27
But then again, three more sleepy seasons.
00:29:30
That and then that's the big 16 straight years of making it as the longest considered its longest streak for the Nets in terms of making the playoffs in consecutive years.
00:29:40
That's what you could hang your hat on, obviously, the deepest playoff performances you ever saw, and they were hung in the hat of Jason Kidd.
00:29:46
So you don't buy the numbers, had some of his best seasons with the Nets in terms of accomplishments.
00:29:52
Obviously, we know he went on to win a title, but you know, really was able to dio some fantastic things for his career while with the New Jersey Nets.
00:30:02
And at the end of the day, when you write it up in the Pantheon the only thing that's gonna derail him.
00:30:08
Being one of the two or three probably most important Nets in franchise history is going to be a Kyrie.
00:30:15
Irving and Kevin Durant can finally get that trophy for Brooklyn.
00:30:20
That'll that'll move the needle for you, right? That will put them at the top of the mountain because they were able to accomplish that ultimate goal.
00:30:27
But we still don't know about that yet.
00:30:29
And as of right now, Jason Kidd and some of the players that were in there over that six and seven year stretch, those are the guys that get all the credit in the world and really just the cap.
00:30:39
This one off, 01 tow away for me personally on 15 years old in 2000 you know? So, um, sop****re in high school, this is one of the This is the peak of getting your fan of dialed up.
00:30:53
So from like, you know, from 15 to 20 this was it.
00:30:57
And Jason Kidd's cemented my love for the Nets made, and by the way, then he leaves.
00:31:05
And he did such good things while he was there.
00:31:07
That once he goes away, it didn't matter, right? It's already automatic.
00:31:10
I'm locked in.
00:31:11
I'm never leaving.
00:31:12
And as we all know, you're born into a franchise, right? And you just you stick with him through thick and thin.
00:31:18
But that's six year run really made it easier to go into some difficult times before he got to the Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett era briefly there.
00:31:28
But it was easy to have some bad seasons after how close they came, you know, by the way we think back to it, I really thought they were gonna get that ship.
00:31:39
I ride, man, those years losing the finals.
00:31:45
Sorry, I'm just thinking, I'm just thinking back again.
00:31:47
Just thinking back again to the good of the fertile days and what could have been at ahead any rate, uh, Jason Kidd, obviously one of my favorite point guard for the Brooklyn Nets for the New Jersey at the time.
00:32:00
He goes right in there into this collection of very important players that that created in or around my team and made me want to follow them, believe in the fight for them, and know that even if you didn't quite ever get there, you gave me so much entertainment joy along the way.
00:32:17
So an easy guy to look at, I think Kenny Anderson was a little bit more of a sleeper, whereas Jason Kidd is the easy one.
00:32:23
The chalk up here is being one of the favorite point guards.
00:32:25
I will be coming back in and talking about more point guards that I was a big fan of.
00:32:31
I'm gonna pick up, pick out one more, maybe two, maybe only pack it up a couple of them together in terms of those lean years following Jason Kidd because a rotating cast really comes through the Nets and then we'll move on.
00:32:41
We'll get into the shooting guard, will get the centers and some of the other big men on this team beyond that.
00:32:46
As I said, you can do a great job.
00:32:48
By the way, let me just take a real quick second here to say, uh, you go with Well, how sure, Holder, How would I say this swaggy? Oh, yeah, I think I got that tragedy.
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Favorite PG: Part 2 Jason Kidd

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Adam Armbrecht @WeGotNets

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And with that, we welcome you back into the We got nits Podcasts coming to you live as always on the SportsCastr platform.
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Happy once again to be talking a little bit Nets, basketball, talking next history.
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Really, If you followed us on our last episode, we came in and on highlighted Kenny Anderson were kind of basically going through.
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I tried too truncated to about the last 25 years of Obviously, I extended a little bit for Kenny Anderson sake.
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Really? What you're getting is Ah, inside of my upbringing as a New Jersey and now Brooklyn Nets fan with the ever watchful eye of myself and signori over my shoulder.
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There is a bear just overhead.
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This is just, you know, we're Listen, we're in weird times so a lot of shifting areas of the office slash workspace slash apartment that were trying to broadcast from to make sure we continue to bring you a lot of quality content.
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So, as always, the reminder that you can follow us on social media at we got nets and head overto iTunes wherever you get your podcasts and down Literary review subscribe, we're gonna be ramping ourselves back up now that Ah, myself, of course, really dug.
00:01:27
Nori, If you listen to our last episode, he had to do a lot of shifting of gears in order to get himself and really his family into a healthy and safe space for for themselves during this pandemic.
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Thankfully, he's gotten all that squared away, so we'll continue to ramp things up on that and as well.
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But as I had said, we're gonna be coming back in with these and the title should give it away.
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We're gonna be talking about favorite point cards and you can't go too far down the list before you come across Jason Kidd.
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And this isn't being listed in any type of hierarchy in terms of I think that this point guard is better than that, right? I'm not gonna come out and tell you the Jeremy Lin is the greatest point guard in Nets franchise history, but it's just really again connecting to my youth as I came up with this team and some of the players.
00:02:16
That, of course, really sparked the love off the Nets fan base as a whole.
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So you know, Listen, obviously we know Jason Kidd.
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We know what he accomplished with the Nets once he came over, and we'll do the same thing, just like last time.
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Let's go ahead and get some of those highlights up and running.
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We'll give a little bit of brief background and history around Jason Kidd, and then we're gonna dive in on the stat numbers, not just about what he did strictly when he's with the Nets, but really, what did he do? Also previous.
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How did how did his time with New Jersey stack up relative to the rest of his career, obviously had an incredible career plate for number.
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Different teams came in with the Mavericks early on, but we'll get into all that first and foremost as we throw some highlights up here for you going all the way back to his college days with the Golden Bears.
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You can enjoy a little bit a little taste of that as we start to think about some of the information about this particular player, where he's come from, where he's going, right well.
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And as you also know, too, by the way, a brief New Jersey observing Brooklyn Nets head coach as well under Billy King at the time.
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So that obviously didn't pan out.
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Maybe the way that everyone had hoped, but went and played with Golden Bears.
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They run some of those college highlights for you and, you know, in his first season with the Golden Bears, average 7.
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7 assists game away with 13 points a game, almost five rebounds as well and nearly four steals to go along with it.
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So certainly did a nice job.
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However, they did fall.
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Ah, excuse me.
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They were up there.
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They had upset two time defending national championship and the Chargers.
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Make sure I get my Ducks in a row here.
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And that was Duke in the second round of the tournament before losing in Kansas in the Sweet 16.
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So had a little bit of, Ah, some of that prowess for the big game.
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The big stage.
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Obviously, this is a a point guard that was highly touted coming out of college.
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There was no real mystery around that.
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Ah, he was selected, of course, as the second pick overall by the Dallas Mavericks.
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And that was behind a Glenn Robinson, who came out of producer that year and just ahead of Grant Hill.
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So not a bad little sandwich to be in between there in terms of just players.
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Then when you come out your draft class, you would get associated with those guys as you play out your career.
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And sometimes you can even get compared to them by the back end of your career.
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Now, in the first year, though, he averaged.
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That's Jason Kidd.
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Almost 12 points per game.
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5.
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5 rebounds, 7.
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7 assists.
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Similar number Because that's what he did his first year at college as well.
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Led the league in triple doubles and shared the 95 NBA rookie of the year's honors with Grant Hill a CZ.
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He came out with the Detroit Pistons to start his career.
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Now, the interesting thing is that, really, I mean, Jason Kidd balances around over the course of his career.
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When you think about it, he goes.
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He's only in Dallas from 94 to 96 goes to Phoenix from 96 toe 01 and many hits Our time with the New Jersey Nets starting in 2001 plays with us all the way until 2008 so the scan through drop back with the Mavericks course from a way to 2012 went on to the next for one season.
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And then it was off to retirement and started his coaching career first, of course, with the Brooklyn Nets and then went to Milwaukee for four seasons there as well, and now finds himself as the assistant head coach on the only Laker.
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So his coaching career now and really think about it, is already is everybody a 70 years almost into his nd a coaching career, so shifted gears immediately following the professional career to get into the action.
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But you know the strange thing about it as it started to look through.
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You go through the history and you think back to some of the names that maybe aren't as familiar A Z would think right? At least not initially in your mind.
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Obviously, Jason Kidd's an automatic one there as I pause on a beautiful freeze frame of LeBron James there.
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But the interesting thing was, you think about Jason Kidd and in the time since using kid is gone, you've had your Devin Harris is You've had your ah, you're Darrin Williams.
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You Now we have Kyrie Irving you had Stefan Marbury in the mix.
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There is Well, you know, the cast of characters that rotates through at the point guard position for the next really has been a fluid position for them when Jason Kidd comes in in 2001 1st of all, it's a get right.
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You know, 2001 relative to when he started his career that's basically entering his prime, and the Nets were able to bring into New Jersey.
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Obviously cost us a pretty penny to do so, but we were able to get him in the door and for a franchise, especially when you're based in New Jersey.
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And I'll tell you being from New Jersey, where we have to NFL football teams that play here, but they don't associate with New Jersey.
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They say We're the New York Giants with New York Jets, and I'm a Giants fan.
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You know when we have the New Jersey Devils and you can hang your hat on that and feel really good about it.
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If you're a soccer fan, the Red Bulls, they've had some success as well, but we talk about the N B. A.
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New Jersey is not.
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It's not a big cash, a state, right? Even though you're close to the media market, if you don't do what the football team's doing, associate yourself with New York.
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You're really kind of closing off some of the opportunity to cash in on that.
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So the fact that the Nets were able t get Jason Kidd into the building was an accomplishment in and of itself.
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Now you want to talk about stance here.
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I want to start to go through and think about what he was able to accomplish before we get back to the highlight reel.
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And ultimately, what it meant in terms of getting to the Finals.
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Unfortunately, coming up short in those opportunities, but a really, really successful run, obviously, for the Nets franchise with Jason Kidd at the helm.
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So you talk about when he gets in here.
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You run through starts there in Dallas, rotates through Phoenix, and then he comes to New Jersey that old 102 season.
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You think about the number of games that he played 1st 2 seasons, 82 80 takes a couple of few games off their over, though three toe five seasons.
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But then again, 80 games a year for those that included there.
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Ah got Toronto throw into the mix of 80 games over the last two seasons of his career.
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What was that? Their Ah, But when you talk about the numbers right, let's think about where he stacked up relative to other points in his career.
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Let's go field goal percentage to start here.
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His best field goal percentage is common.
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You look through it.
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Phoenix, Dallas, Phoenix, Dallas Nets gets mixed in there.
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A second season with the Nets shot 41% from the field.
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Best shooting season was 98 99 with Phoenix and his second stop, where he shot 44% from the field.
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Sergeant run down the list.
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You can see the Phoenix really showing up there four times out of the 1st 7 so he had a really nice shooting touch when he was in Phoenix.
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But New Jersey is mixed in there as well.
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0607 as well as 0506 Always shot above you. Think about his career.
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Shot 40% from the field for his career, so he was hitting his career numbers there.
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You think about the off years that he has.
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Really? You're talking about the back end of his career, right? Dallas? Oh, you know, bottom feeders 10 11 had a little bit of an uptick, and by a little bit I mean 110.
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2% of the year after that in Dallas, shooting 36 37 with next.
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The year, the House, his final year of his career.
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And then you go back all the way to his second season in the embassy when he shot 38% with the Dallas Mavericks and then 0304 mixed in a bad season there with the Nets as well, but more good than bad and basically average shooting performance for in terms of his career numbers.
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By the way, when you're talking about a range by the time you're finished, 36% was the worst shooting percentage he ever had. 44.
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His best but needy part of the curve for the most part of every single one of his stocks.
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Now the interesting one that I want to take a look at was going to be, ah, the three point shooting percentage because he had a tendency with the New Jersey next to get some of those late game shot heroics.
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Some of those really chuck up kind of three balls that we're going down for him.
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But when you go inside the numbers, Great year over 405 shooting, 36 6% made by his standards.
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09 No.
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10 with Dallas shot 42% from three.
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Oh, you know, nine.
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Your prior to that shot 40%.
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So leader in his career.
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Excuse me later, his career really came around in terms of having that perimeter shot.
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Developing Maura, that outside game for himself but in terms of his Nets performances stays away from the complete bottom dwelling here. But no.
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102103 or four of those first couple of years only shot 32% and then mixes in there in the middle of the pack.
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Once again, 0405 Being the best with the Nets of 36 there as well.
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You don't listen.
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Free throw Shooting was obviously a staple of his game, and you can see his second best career year.
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84% was with the nets in 0203 You go down a list.
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I mean, listen free throw shooting isn't really gonna complete your skirt up.
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So we'll skip right past that and go to the assistant.
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Remember? Averaged just under eight assists per game his rookie season best.
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Two years for him, though.
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We're going to come in Phoenix and 98 99 when he has 10 nearly 11 assists per game and then 10 assists per game.
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Bunt in New Jersey gets in the top for their average, almost basically 10 there in his first season and then, relatively speaking, 03 or four sprinkled in back to back there with those 607 plus nine assists in occur first career average, 8.7 assists.
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Now again, you're gonna hurt yourself a little bit.
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Playing 76 games with the New York Knicks in your final season.
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48.
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You know, in Dallas.
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Although he did have the lowest, Curry said about Lois first year with Dallas, that would mark his third lowest assist average for a season in his entire career.
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Now, New Jersey has some of those lesser ones mixed in 8 8.
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5 There for a couple of seasons, but they get that nice nine assists season there, and then you talk about those back to back words averaging overnight as well.
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So for a guy who played out to an 888.
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7 assists per game average, the Nets, when his time here did mortal of that, that he didn't last but not least wanted to touch on the steals.
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Of course, real quick here again, you think about you had the 0607 was a low hanging fruit for him, but some top two, it was there to produce steals per game, going along with it.
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And then the points numbers will obviously be that big. One.
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Best average points per game came in 0203 with your New Jersey Nets giving you nearly 19 points a game, almost two full points higher than any other season in his career again, those Phoenix years were good ones for him.
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98 99 4001 were really good for him.
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And again, though, you see where those next season stack up here.
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0405 to 1 4002 seasons.
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The old three or four seasons.
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So his entire Nets career plays pretty high up there until in terms of points per game and then towards that back end when he's 33 years old in 2007.
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That's when you're playing out, you know, 13 points a game, and that's gonna be the lowest.
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Totally ever have the Nets.
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That's his final season with the Nets as well.
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So interesting to see you know how he kind of tapered off their interns a shooting performances and just take a look if there's any out liars.
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Uh, but, uh, not for the most part, you know, stayed consistent, just taper off as as he got older.
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There really weren't any out liars outside of the fact that you'd say, you know, 95 96 with Dallas.
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That second season, 16.
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6 points per game, is fourth best shooting for scoring performance in his career.
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And that's mixed in there with relatively, you know, later on.
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27 u Z.
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29 25 years old, 27 but 22 years old, very strong year for himself.
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And you think about the years that he was with the Nets, obviously you know, comes in there.
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We take a look at that old 1 to 28 years old.
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You know, if you're if you're you know, the other thing is too will come back to my beautiful face.
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And the other thing is, do you think about 28 years, old boy? Then you get him.
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Ah, year earlier.
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You're probably getting yourself.
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You know, it's a little bit more of that prime.
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And you wonder the impact that could have had on what the Nets were able to accomplish.
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Maybe free agents that you're able to track etcetera back in.
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Just one second Here is I want to make sure we do not go power free down the home stretch.
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Yeah, why all the bells and whistles? Right.
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So you don't listen The numbers of the numbers We said this about Kenny Anderson.
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I was talking about just how that felt.
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Toe have a guy like him, uh, initially the start of his career, where you thought it could go for you.
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We'll get that highlight packages running again, and we'll get ah, LeBron James's face off of there.
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Shuttle Realty through After speaking about him.
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If you look through it.
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Hopefully, this video isn't too choppy there for you, but you think about it.
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It's the incredible court vision.
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The passing, the fakes behind the back there is highly here from Phoenix.
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Sunday's the little pop shot there in the New Jersey Nets.
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Guy.
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Those were some good uniforms there.
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And then think about his time, right, running with Kenyon Martin and having Richard Jefferson out there on the wing.
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Those little flips where you're getting such a beautiful place and then you know, the other side of that is to you can sit there and talk about you know, the numbers and how a player is to statistically.
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The other piece of the dough to is the hustle, you know, and you always think about.
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My memory is always off Michael Jordan at the end of his career, playing for the Wizards as they show that little trap three.
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I know, and I know, by the way, actually, when we showed on the highlight package the other day, we just showed some top plays from Jason Kidd.
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But you don't think back to uh, ST Michael Jordan when he when he was playing for the Washington Wizards The thing that always stuck out to me was this.
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This is ingrained in my mind.
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Michael Jordan is playing in the game.
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I can tell you one game loose ball goes towards the sidelines.
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It's on the ground going at a dance and Michael Jordan at whatever it was late thirties and 40 years old.
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I think the last season in his career dies down on the ground.
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That ends up splitting his chin, trying to dive down and save the ball from going out of bounds.
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And when he gets back up, though, he's in the face of his teammates on the bench because you're talking about a guy who's 15 20 years older than some of these kids, kids on the team.
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And he's still showing all the all of the heart and hustle that you want every single play.
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And when you think about what it takes to win and that's something we'll talk about this right.
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The late Kobe Bryant talk about this all outwork you, right? I'll out hustle you.
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I will out Ah, we're all working in the gym a lot.
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Work you in the film room, all out work you on the court in the game.
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A lot work to trash talking.
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Whatever it is, I'm going to do that and we don't We don't know that the players in any sport that play the highest level always talk about wanting to be the best.
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And I wanted to be the best.
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Doesn't mean I want to make it to the MBA, wanting to be the best man I want to make to the MBA.
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And I want to beat everybody every single night out on the court now Jason Kidd.
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You know, I think it was a tremendous hustle, but there was also elegance and beauty to Jason Kidd's game.
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You think about the passing in the court vision and what that allowed for, you know, just in terms of some of the opportunities to see.
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There it is that beautiful little dropoff pass right, flashing in behind his Vince Carter.
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Everything talking something.
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Great years, man.
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Playing with having Vince Carter on the court with Jason Kidd having Kenyon Martin, you know, it's interesting to think Kenyon Martin, obviously, you know, one of the players that I think about when I think about Kenyon Martin and I love him by the way.
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But I always used to think about I could think about DeAndre Jordan now and being the product.
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You know, the byproduct of the teams that you play on in some of the opportunities that he has.
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They showed the Yao Ming highlight back in his Ah Dallas days, Yao Ming trying to guard against the inbounds play, and Jason Kidd still finds an alley oop opportunity in spite of Yao Ming defending the inbounds play.
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We go, Shawn marrying there, that he gets it to an all you can do if you're Yao Ming is have a laugh there.
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That was the one of those beautiful plays right there to the flying through the air tipped pass over the head to a streaking Richard Jefferson, who goes in for the flush.
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But, you know, I just I mentioned it about Kenny Anderson and how he was one of those first players.
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See, saw Brian Scalabrine, I think, flashed through on the screen, one of my all time favorite, but the the thing that gets you excited as a fan, I think, especially when you're young fan, is some of these beautiful planes, just some of the magic that a player can create.
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Doug and I talked about in the last episode of the podcast.
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We were having that discussion around when you think think was on Reddit thread on the N.
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D A.
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Could you score 20 points, 10 assists, five rebounds over 82 game season.
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And sometimes you know when you're watching an N V a game or any sport a professional sport, you watch it and you go.
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How could you drop that ball? How could you miss that shot? How could you not? Right? Because everything see, everything is relatively simple when you're when you're watching professional sports.
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But then sometimes you get players like LeBron James and you get players, allows you to stay there.
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Joey would be in Russian the terrible example of it.
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But you get some of these freak athletes or that cream of the crop top of the class and they're given sport.
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And they start to do then is like watching Michael Jordan play watching Kobe Bryant play watching even Shaquille O'Neal just for the sea, sheer size of the man and what he's able to physically do, especially early in his career.
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When you see guys like that, that that that or playing at such a high level and doing things that other players are are not capable of doing.
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That's what makes you take the big step back and go.
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I'm seeing something here, right? And when Jason Kidd came to the Nets, it was like opening up your mind and just realizing how talented players could be at the N B A level.
00:21:05
And when you think about that run that they went on making the playoffs consistently year after the year, getting to the finals, never winning the chip.
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You want to talk about being on a hang your hat on something? If the Nets have been able to win in the Jason Kidd Air win a championship, the outlook of this franchise, I think, would have drastically changed over that next.
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You know he leaves Alito nine.
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The next five or six seasons would have looked a lot different.
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Rotating cast of characters not necessarily be able to get the pieces that you want to put together there.
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At the very least, For a family standpoint, you would have been first of all, even though I think fans hold Jason getting high esteem.
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He would have been crowned the king of the Nets organization, and I think you'll be talking about putting a statue out there, probably in in front of Barclay Center at some point for him.
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If he was able to do that over that run, um, wait, the level of excitement to watch every game every single night when Jason Kidd was leading this team was absolutely phenomenal.
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I mean, it was epic stuff.
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And the other thing that I want to take a look at here and I'll go ahead and run some just a few more highlights in the background.
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While I just want to try to see if I can pull this up, I don't think one guy as the sample here that's a little bit tricky as well, because you are talking about, you know, players transitioning, you know, different times in their career.
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And really, you know where they end up landing.
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So as we take a look here and I'll just I'll peek my head in.
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Oh, yeah, that's gonna be the highlight package anyway, So we'll go ahead and get ourselves pulled out of there.
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Come back into it when I want to take a look at real quick.
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Here is Richard Jefferson stat lines for his career, and that's what I thought would be just interesting to see.
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So now Richard Jefferson comes in No.
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102 So he starts his career with Jason Kidd, and this is what I mean by a little bit tricky, right? Because he basically plays that place for Jason Kidd's entire stint with the Nets.
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Richard Jefferson's there.
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Then he moves on to Milwaukee, goes through a couple of other handful of teams, ends up ultimately winning a championship, uh, as a member of the Cleveland Cavaliers.
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But when you think about his career numbers, this is what I wanted.
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Kind of kind of highlight here later his career.
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He really turns on the three point shooting percentage, eh? So you're not gonna go overboard with that? Uh, really kind of better shoot religion as well.
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But taking with New Jersey numbers 05 or six 50 53% from the field.
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Let's give it a two point percentage overall field goal percentage, though 0203 50%.
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0304 49% 0506 49%.
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20 Ozy goes into Santos was hard with Spurs.
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San Antonio Spurs there for a couple of seasons, that New Jersey pops right back up there.
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27 46% 43 out of his top three performances from shooting percentage come with the New Jersey Nets.
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Hey, and then four out of his top six and five out of his top eight or all with the New Jersey Nets.
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Yeah, and the reason why you could say relatively, it's worth highlighting.
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Is that 24 years old with a net that's one of the low hanging fruit? They're about 28 prime of his career with Milwaukee.
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Not a good shooting performance season for him.
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Even 26 with New Jersey there.
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But the best years of his career And it stands for, you know, stands to reason because he's he's young.
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He's gonna be bullet.
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The value was get out and run right.
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Get out and run and let Jason Kidd did that.
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Bull let him go ahead and just makes that thing up.
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The fast break opportunities that you had energies and kids beyond Epic man.
00:24:56
I thought about going into specific games and you know and goings on finals, and I probably will at some point on here, But you're actually going back.
00:25:06
When we talked about when Kyrie Irving got onto the court for the first time with the next Doug and I didn't episode about what we said, you're watching these last couple of years and you're seeing the hard hustle on the great that this team's playing with, and it's phenomenal.
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And then you get a guy like Kyrie Irving on the court.
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This is a guy that's another life.
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Another level of anybody have had on this roster.
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And all of a sudden you turn around, you go.
00:25:30
You know, what am I watching here? Right? The court vision, the ball control, the handle, this skills inside the lane, the ability to create his own shot.
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That's what Jason Kidd was back started in 121 2002.
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It was okay.
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We got something different here, and all of a sudden, those pieces around on the Kenyan Martin, the Richard Jefferson's.
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Even when Vince Carter came late, leaders certainly not.
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You know, he had had a long career prior to coming to New Jersey, but also you just saw the elevation that other players play at Jason Kidd for me was just no, maybe the re ignition of loving the next right cause you're fighting through some difficult seasons leading up to that.
00:26:15
You know, you talk about it again.
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We have highlighted it in terms of intern season trying.
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Pull it up real quick in terms of where the team and been and where you hope that it could go right.
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So we'll take a look here and then we'll get out on that.
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No, we did it with Kenny Anderson as well.
00:26:33
Remember Kenny Anderson those early years? Right now, those are some good seasons for the Nets on.
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We'll talk about just briefly here, where they're succeed.
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Six seed, you know, getting into the playoffs, finishing with over 500 record, obviously, uh, two years in a row, their seventh seed the following year in 93 94.
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It always up visually for you, so just take my word for it.
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But in terms of the Jason Kidd era bony, he walks in the door.
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When he comes in, you go from being 16 and 34 31 51 26 56 at 16 and 34 is obviously a shortened year.
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98 99.
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But I mean just disastrous in terms of records.
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Bang you lose in the final That first year, 52 30 record first in the Eastern Conference win lost their 11 and nine in the playoffs.
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You losing the MBA? Can't be acting on what that number is there.
00:27:31
Excuse me, but you know, losing the N B A finals the very next year.
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49 33.
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You finished second in the East.
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You lose in the n B A finals again, you lose in the Eastern Conference semifinals the following year.
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47 35.
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Oaf 405 years, 42 40.
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You finished eighth seed in the East.
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You end up getting swept out there.
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Lost in the Eastern Conference finals round.
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Wants me. That is correct.
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First year 11 and nine. The playoffs.
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14 and six.
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That second year seven and four followed up.
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Then you get swept.
00:28:01
You come back the next season of 506 they're going back in and 49 33 0607 You get to 41 41 6 seed.
00:28:10
You lose in the conference semi.
00:28:12
So think about it over over those 1st 123456 seasons that they were.
00:28:17
There are the Jason Kidd is their leading this team.
00:28:20
Here they go.
00:28:21
Finals, obviously you lose.
00:28:23
But finals Finals Eastern Conference entities First round Eastern Conference Emmys Eastern Conference semifinals Easily one of the best errors that we've had.
00:28:34
And you know you don't you don't see this again following that.
00:28:37
06 or seven season.
00:28:38
You don't get back into qualifying until 2012 2013.
00:28:42
Obviously, make that big push.
00:28:43
We bring in some big names on you.
00:28:46
Go 49 33 44 38 on than 30 and 44 in spite of the fact of a losing record.
00:28:51
Still get the eighth seed in a nasty Little Eastern conference there, you know, before getting back in this past year in the 2018 2019.
00:28:59
But you know, when you think about the next you know the Nets franchise again, go back there.
00:29:03
Those early nineties, that's when they were doing work.
00:29:06
Prior to that, you had to go all the way back to 85 the last time they had made it.
00:29:09
So they go to sleep there from 81 to 85.
00:29:13
They're in the playoffs.
00:29:14
Then they have five years before they make it back.
00:29:17
Three year stretch where you get in the dance and three years off you pop up once they're in 97 98 43 39 where you lose in the first round.
00:29:27
But then again, three more sleepy seasons.
00:29:30
That and then that's the big 16 straight years of making it as the longest considered its longest streak for the Nets in terms of making the playoffs in consecutive years.
00:29:40
That's what you could hang your hat on, obviously, the deepest playoff performances you ever saw, and they were hung in the hat of Jason Kidd.
00:29:46
So you don't buy the numbers, had some of his best seasons with the Nets in terms of accomplishments.
00:29:52
Obviously, we know he went on to win a title, but you know, really was able to dio some fantastic things for his career while with the New Jersey Nets.
00:30:02
And at the end of the day, when you write it up in the Pantheon the only thing that's gonna derail him.
00:30:08
Being one of the two or three probably most important Nets in franchise history is going to be a Kyrie.
00:30:15
Irving and Kevin Durant can finally get that trophy for Brooklyn.
00:30:20
That'll that'll move the needle for you, right? That will put them at the top of the mountain because they were able to accomplish that ultimate goal.
00:30:27
But we still don't know about that yet.
00:30:29
And as of right now, Jason Kidd and some of the players that were in there over that six and seven year stretch, those are the guys that get all the credit in the world and really just the cap.
00:30:39
This one off, 01 tow away for me personally on 15 years old in 2000 you know? So, um, sop****re in high school, this is one of the This is the peak of getting your fan of dialed up.
00:30:53
So from like, you know, from 15 to 20 this was it.
00:30:57
And Jason Kidd's cemented my love for the Nets made, and by the way, then he leaves.
00:31:05
And he did such good things while he was there.
00:31:07
That once he goes away, it didn't matter, right? It's already automatic.
00:31:10
I'm locked in.
00:31:11
I'm never leaving.
00:31:12
And as we all know, you're born into a franchise, right? And you just you stick with him through thick and thin.
00:31:18
But that's six year run really made it easier to go into some difficult times before he got to the Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett era briefly there.
00:31:28
But it was easy to have some bad seasons after how close they came, you know, by the way we think back to it, I really thought they were gonna get that ship.
00:31:39
I ride, man, those years losing the finals.
00:31:45
Sorry, I'm just thinking, I'm just thinking back again.
00:31:47
Just thinking back again to the good of the fertile days and what could have been at ahead any rate, uh, Jason Kidd, obviously one of my favorite point guard for the Brooklyn Nets for the New Jersey at the time.
00:32:00
He goes right in there into this collection of very important players that that created in or around my team and made me want to follow them, believe in the fight for them, and know that even if you didn't quite ever get there, you gave me so much entertainment joy along the way.
00:32:17
So an easy guy to look at, I think Kenny Anderson was a little bit more of a sleeper, whereas Jason Kidd is the easy one.
00:32:23
The chalk up here is being one of the favorite point guards.
00:32:25
I will be coming back in and talking about more point guards that I was a big fan of.
00:32:31
I'm gonna pick up, pick out one more, maybe two, maybe only pack it up a couple of them together in terms of those lean years following Jason Kidd because a rotating cast really comes through the Nets and then we'll move on.
00:32:41
We'll get into the shooting guard, will get the centers and some of the other big men on this team beyond that.
00:32:46
As I said, you can do a great job.
00:32:48
By the way, let me just take a real quick second here to say, uh, you go with Well, how sure, Holder, How would I say this swaggy? Oh, yeah, I think I got that tragedy.
00:33:01
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00:33:02
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00:33:03
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00:34:05
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00:34:45
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00:35:08
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