Yeah, and with that welcome back into the We got Nets podcast as always, coming to you live streaming on the SportsCastr network.
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I want to come in here as we know in the whole drums of not having any MBA action Hopefully jumped onboard with us as we took, took ourselves out to a little town in Nebraska there and watched one teen wolf go for the glory there the other day.
But now we're back, and I was thinking about some different things that we could do.
Obviously, a lot of people are talking King about favorite games over the past season, even going in some of the basketball memories.
So what we're going to start to do, and this will be, as you can see from the title part, one off the favorite players at each position on the New Jersey Nets that the Brooklyn Nets throughout the year.
So, you know, I myself in 34 years old, So technically, a lot of fans will say I've been a fan of the next since 85 but the reality is that First of all, I don't have memories from my 1st 5 years of my life, and really, when it comes to sports, I don't think I really start to have that appreciation until I got a little bit older.
And then as you do, you start to get some of these guys ingrained into you, and it doesn't necessarily always come down to how they were on the court or whether or not your team was winning when they played for them.
But more just about they just become kind of these figures in your mind that are so connected.
Tiu these franchises for you, you know, as a Giants fan.
Jason See, Horn has a spot in my memories because whether it's the unfortunate kickoff, return Warriors of getting injured and really is never the same in his career or that incredible interception that he has bounced off of his body open to the air, gets himself back upright, grabs it out of the air and then returns it for a touchdown.
So, you know, Jason, see Horn in the relative history of the New York football giants, not necessarily the biggest figure in the world, but for me, growing up, he ends up holding at least a certain position in there.
And then, obviously you get all the standards right.
The Eli Manning's or the Tiki Barber's The Michael Straight Hands.
If you're in my type of age range, and then it's obviously interesting to see two as some of the younger generations come up the way some of the players that I hold so near and dear across for its don't really mean as much to that right.
It's more who is the current player that I get to watch that I connect with and then I think, really identifies with me.
So we'll be working through it, and I'm basically gonna try to do probably at least three for each position.
I think that that way we can kind of cover a span, and we're gonna go ahead and take it over the last 25 years.
So it'll be going from around 95.
Even this 1st 1st player is gonna go a little bit earlier than that, because he did have overlapped into that into that 94 95 season for you.
But we'll cover basically last 25 years, three players.
You'll probably get a nice gap of 5 to 7 years in between each one, depending, though position by position.
What players really kind of stuck out to me as I was growing along as a New Jersey Nets fan, of course, at the time when I was growing up.
So the first player there, we're gonna dive right in.
It's right there in front of Kenny Anderson.
When he came out in the 91 draft, he was the second overall pick.
He was considered to be possibly one of the best point guard prospects in a decade, and the Nets were lucky enough to draft him and bring him in.
Now, his career overall didn't necessarily play out the way people would have expected, Certainly not the way he expected, but one of the things that I remember as a kid and really you started talking about getting to that age 9 10 year old range was watching the way he played the position and of course, as you think about what we hope will see from Kyrie Irving next year and glimpse that we gotta But this season the ball handling skills, the distribution right, the court vision These are some of the things that you love to see from some of the best point guards in the N B A.
Well, go ahead and pull up a little bit of a highlight reel in the background here.
You could just see this kind of get going for you as we continue this conversation and we'll touch on some of the stat lines that we can talk about when it comes to Kenny Anderson as far as his career goes.
And really where he where he could have stacked up if he continued on the path that he was on it and really taking at face value where his numbers stood up per league average over the course of his career.
So we start to work our way through some of these, You'll see those highlights hopefully start to come up here.
Looks like we may have a little technical difficulty, so we'll see if we can get that going.
If not, we'll just continue on without that highlight package.
And there it is.
There, so highly package should be up and running now, and you're gonna see him flash through a lot of different teams by the way gets drafted by the Nets.
He plays four seasons, gets traded quickly, briefly with Toronto, but then he ends up playing for a number of different MBA teams.
The lockout takes place during his career is well, so there's some ups and downs there, but as you see those highlights, playing in the background some great crossover moves, working at the opposition and again seeing how he had that court vision and no look pass into the corner driving the baseline for a teammate there he comes out in that first year.
Doesn't actually get to start, only starts 13 games in his rookie season, but then gets to benefit from a new coach Coming in.
I was Chuck Daly that he played under there over the next couple of years before Trump Daily ultimately laugh.
But in that second season, those stat lines really start to jump up.
Even those 13 starts that he got still played significant in terms of the minutes and games that he appeared in, but only average seven points per game.
How to steal per game as well, along with 3.
2 assists just over three assists, 39% from the field on Lee shot 23% from beyond the arc in limited action that wasn't getting necessarily out of college.
Expectations were would be that he was a starter, but obviously he's behind at the time, we'll take a look at these next to your stash that you had going, but you had Mookie Blaylock ahead of you, so he doesn't get that opportunity necessarily in the rookie season.
By the time it's all said and done.
Year number two, he gets that chance to come out and really show is capable of shoots 44% from the field starts to increase.
That three point shooting percentage is well, average is just a hair under.
Basically 17 points a game gives you almost not almost 1.
7 steals per game to go along with it.
Point to assist so again that distribution isn't catching some of those highlights.
When he went to the Blazers, this is actually where, at that point in his career is supposed to be an opportunity for him to be that team that doesn't work out and about Boston at one point as well.
So you can see all the different places along the way that he ultimately stopped.
But year to shoots 43% from the field for the for the Nets again continues to improve.
His three point shooting as well.
9 steals per game in 9.
6 assists per contest as well.
And in that final year, though, he doesn't have coming back.
After a year away comes back to the next.
Phil has solid numbers, but in the final year before ultimately being traded 42% from the field, see, do you see his field goal percentage go down mildly.
6 points per game, so dropped off by about a point there.
So again, seeing those numbers come down a little bit but basically stayed strong with the assist 9.
4 per game over over that final season with the Brooklyn Nets and, by the way, that the three point shooting percentage went from 23 to 30 by the time he was all said and done with the next.
Ultimately, you know not the strongest from the outside, but you can see how you talk about the distribution ability, the court vision and these highlights about just the smoothest.
And he has driving to the basket there, you see drawing in the defenders, right, kicking it out to an open look there and even here, some of those off balance shots.
What so often? Or what important when you talk about playing at the point guard position, getting yourself into a great opportunity to what distribute and give good looks to teammates hopefully make the defense respect that you can distribute and get easy looks going to the basket as well.
And then at times you need to have that ability to show body control.
Hanging in the air, off balance, shot, waiting for a defender to flash by before for knocking down a great opportunity here.
Shown some of that cross up as he works right in the lane and gets that little rattler to go off glasses.
Well, so certainly, look, I mean, listen, it's a mother.
Beautiful highlights, right? I mean, not not to throw the comparison right where we are today, but that little up and under scoop is obviously a beautiful one there.
Kenny, as he gets underneath the basket, finds two defenders around, manages to body off one defender, shield away another and used the abstract her arm to get the up in under look to go.
So just some of those highlights of what he was capable of over not only with the Nets but over the course of his career as well.
Talked about those stat lines.
I want to get into this a little bit, too.
You talk the comparables, and I'll get this pulled up so everyone can get a look at it as well.
You take a look at these stat lines and go through some of his career highlights.
You're talking about a guy who had 40 45 point performance against the Pistons back in 94 rebounds.
Camp with 13 is a career high and 93 against the Rockets.
These role first sample is that's coming with the Nets as well against the Cavaliers.
18 assists, obviously coming in with a tremendous skill set.
If you're able to accomplish a goal like that, it also means that you also have quality players around you along the way as well.
Steals actually accomplished his career high bear in 97 so that's gonna be after is with the Nets and think about to the two blocks being his career high.
So not a huge, you know, not of huge number two amount decline there.
But then that in 2002 after having been in the league for a decade, also had read, you know, offensive rebounds coming in 2000.
Back with the Nets and 93 94 gave his defensive rebound high.
17 made field goals against the Wizards and 94.
And then, obviously, in that same game, you're going to get.
The attempt was usually go hand in hand.
But 17 33 is a pretty nice shooting performance there, over 50% from the field.
Three times in his career, he knocked down 63 pointers.
There was against the Heat with 10 free throws, obviously 20 in the attempt to 23.
So not only did he have, ah, you know, career high of 20.
This came with the Nets again, but also 20 out of 23.
So another solid stat line performance.
Sometimes it's easy to get those numbers up there when you're not necessarily.
Excuse me when you're not necessarily doing it efficiently here and a lot of these looks.
You're seeing how he was both putting up the numbers and doing it in the course of ah, solid performance on the court.
Turnovers had seven turnovers nine times.
Ah, listen, had it 90 elbow, you take a look at it.
He still played a long after 98 that was the last time that he had seven turnovers.
Though that is a substantial number, then here's really what you want to get into.
A cz. Well, career comparisons.
Take a look at the fact that this is a guy who, for his career, average versus point guards.
Uh, you know, 12.
6 points per game.
That's over two above league average assists, two above league average.
Get into those rebounds, you know, small margin, half a rebound.
Better, but still better steals better than league average of 1.
5 blocks dead even there because you don't expect that from point guards, certainly, and then you get into the yo goal percentage Is **** therewith league average actually better from three point for his career than the average point guard? Almost 30 36 a half, 34 half excuse me percent and then free throws right there again, above league average on.
And then finally, the wind share numbers, obviously, her 48 minutes again, three nearly above the league average, along with a monstrous wind share there as well.
And then true shooting percentage coming into 50 which is right there at league average.
So you know, it's an interesting thing when you first of all you know, is a fan growing up.
This is necessarily stuff that you digest.
If you follow us on the podcast.
A lot of times we come in after games.
You know, I track a lot of those facts when we're running through the game.
I'm seeing how Spencer Dinwiddie is maybe shooting a little bit, you know, running hot through the first quarter and 1/2 or isn't taking as many shots and may be focusing more on the facilitation and working those assists.
One of the highlights that we had about this season specifically for the Nets was Tori on Prince, right? How is he looking early? What's his volume in those first quarter and 1/2? And what is he knocking down? Because for him.
It's very much spin.
Start hot, Stay hot, star cold, Stay cold.
So it is certainly not in the street.
I think, you know, Streak.
You think about a guy that gets hot for a stretch of minutes in game.
This guy's really basically came out.
What you got was what you was, what you were going to get for the full 48.
Now we did see a little bit of a shift there before.
Obviously, everything got shut down with him coming off the bench, and I'd be curious to see if we get MBA action back how he develops that.
But consistency is important and one of the things that I want to do and I'll do it in real time, unfortunately, or fortunately, depending on how you on how you think about it, I just want to take a look at you.
Go ahead and pull up the Nets records here, so I want to take a look at where they're winning percentages work under Chuck Daly.
They did turn things around, certainly, uh, for this team, but as we know, the Nets haven't always been the most successful franchise.
Let's just say So let's go back to that.
Let's get back down into that 91 92 season.
So there you go.
I mean, right there.
You can see it, But but think about this 26 56.
And let me see if I can get this up on the screen for you.
Once again, let's take a look where it comes in.
Yeah, you go little cut off there.
But you can still you can still see the record for you.
So 26 we're really 26.
56 The year prior he gets drafted, they come in, they go 40 40 and 42.
Then when he's starting 43 39 45 37.
And then there's that final season where things dropped off and he's traded away ultimately.
Ah, that you could see here daily those two years right there they lose in the Eastern Conference finals and round one they lose in the Eastern Conference finals first round.
So, you know, back to back losses there.
But again, think about the lack of playoff appearances following this stretch.
You go back and take a look.
94 95 a 30 52 teams.
Same record the following year.
Ah, 26 win team in 96 97 97 98 you get a 43 and 39 record.
You lose in the first round again.
This is getting under under Calipari in his in his brief laugh through your step.
But you know, three year stint there.
Certainly, And and ultimately not because Calipari leaves there.
After that three and 17 record, you can see they're over on this line taken over them by doing.
So 13 and 17 records 16 and 34 that's the shortened season as well.
Ah, but, you know, losing record losing record. And then we know.
Then we get into that great time.
Ah, when the Nets are making it to the finals and losing.
Unfortunately, as we know under Byron Scott, he takes him on that four year run you lose in the Eastern Conference semi's and then into a Lawrence Frank era, where the Nets were ableto have you a handful of success. Full season.
What? You know, when you draft a guy like Kenny Anderson at the point guard position, you're thinking that this could be the start of something for the Nets franchise.
And really, they were heading in that direction, whether or not it felt like you were gonna be ableto turn that corner with him, whether or not it's a new coach that comes in and decides that they want to go their own direction at the position.
All that stuff plays a factor.
But at the end of the day, this is really again we talked about born in 85 myself.
But time you start to get a real sense of what's going on 78 years old, when you can, when you can feel like you're watching games and really absorbing it.
This was the guy that they carried my initial next fandom.
So for May, he ends up going down as one of the three point guards over the last 25 years for the Brooklyn Nets that I really want to highlight.
Now, when we think ahead, we obviously know that we're gonna be we're gonna be talking about Jason Kidd.
That much is obvious.
But if I'm gonna limit myself to three, the question becomes, Who is my? Who is my third point guard, right, And it may not necessarily come down to how how many games they play with the Nets, though.
When I approach this and for all the positions that we're gonna look into, I I didn't wanna have at least some type of longevity.
So, for example, I could say Kyrie, Irving is one is one of my favorite point guards for the next, but he's played 20 games so far.
So you know, I'm gonna stay away from that type of approach to this, even though Kyrie Irving is going to go down, is probably the most talented point guard to ever play for the Nets.
Until you really get some some games and seasons under his belt, I'm going to go ahead and hold off on that.
The cat's out of the bag.
Jason Kidd is going to be highlighted here, but I'm really grappling a little bit with where I want to go.
If the other 1 may have to stretch it out to tea before, even because there's gonna be a couple of names that come up and there's already one that I'm gonna probably go to next and it's not gonna be a name that necessarily rings a lot of bells.
If your next fan and you found your Nets historian, you'll know that he was with the Nets.
He had some injury issues that kind of derailed him early, but for May, this actually interconnecting in different way.
And that goes through the other thing that you get growing up.
And that's video games.
And as I was starting to get into, you know, Mad 94 started to get into India jams if you're going all the way back and then even as you got into the two K Siri's for MBA and I was playing it online, what wasn't on a Sega Dreamcast? I bet it would have been.
You play with the Nets and this is the point guard that was that was out there on the floor for you.
So in some ways, again, Kenny Anderson represents just that.
That first point guard that really triggers in my mind when I think about growing up is the next fan business plays with sugars in my mind because I was playing with him so frequently in the video game that it really probably didn't matter what he was doing in real life.
It just felt like this is what I was locked into because we're completely unrelated.
Non basketball related reason.
But nevertheless, we'll go ahead and probably come back in with with my number two point guard over the last 25 years for the Nets.
Probably a couple of days we're gonna go ahead and track down another live basketball event for us to go ahead and give you some play by play and hopefully some entertainment value in these hard, dark times.
And then having just touch base with the we got nits co host co founder Doug Nori over my other shoulder, we're gonna start dialing up the podcast again.
We did one last week, just kind of touching base, you know, not a lot to talk about, obviously, but not not unlike what we're going to bring you here.
Some interesting content talking about maybe some historical game.
Some other matchups probably expand a little bit more out, even on the podcast, beyond just next content as well.
We want you to know that we are gonna be coming back in.
We're gonna be doing at least a couple of episodes a week probably start that up, if not the next day or two.
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This has certainly been an adjustment period for us on the podcast has been an adjustment period for me here on SportsCastr.
As I've been doing so much of the live game flee by play coverage, it's been a little tricky to, you know, to kind of just what I want to do and the type of hopefully interesting, entertaining content that I can bring to you.
And if you're younger fan, this is a great opportunity to go back.
You saw highlight package that's over on YouTube.
You can track down some Kenny Anderson highlights.
You can track down some other older Nets videos if you maybe haven't been following them as long as I have, and then someone's gotta go back even further, right deeper into the history of the Nets.
Then you find some true N b A legends back there for you as well that'll do it for us on what is part one of the of the Nets history here, and we go ahead and yeah, so you know, we're finishing up with what is our part one first point guard number 20 coming within the next couple of days, we'll work our 3rd 1 in, obviously following and right on down the line.
Position by position.
We're probably gonna get into some really difficult discussions, because again, there's a cut of the players that I am basing my love and phantom of maybe on the height of the socks that they wore.
And if you're a true Nets fan, that should be a dead giveaway where I can head down the line with that.
That being said, as always, follow us on social media again will be dialing up our content and our our availability.
As we move forward over the next couple of weeks, we're excited to start to really ramp things back up, and hopefully you'll be right there along with us.
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We will be back in with point guard number two just around Ah, that's going to Air Force.
Sorry, I'm Trump trailing off here.
This is not the typical sign Off.
Normally is wrapping up game action, being elated or disappointed and not knowing where to go.
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