home Home continue
Go Live continue
profile Sign In / Sign Up continue
leaderboard Leaderboard continue
notifications Notifications
1
help Help continue
apple Download iOS App continue
info_circle Learn More continue
legal Legal continue
Trenton, NJ
Potential Fantasy Value: QBs and TEs
AWAY
HOME
0
0
Unknown
0
0
expand collapse
closed_captionclosed_caption_off
more_horizSee More
tip_leader
play_arrow pause
sound_mute sound_down sound_up
/
play_arrow pause
expand collapse
more_horizSee More
shareShare
Tip Leaderboard
tip_leader
continue
Game Commentators
community
continue
chat Switch To Chat continue
00:00:00
so we're very excited to be able to bring that to you guys.
00:00:02
One of the new things going on with the show before we go ahead and get into the content that we want to talk to you guys about is the new MD Nation Hotline is actually where the guest is going to be calling in today.
00:00:12
6093622480 You can call that number.
00:00:17
Leave your fantasy comment, leave your fantasy question and even go on a rant.
00:00:23
If you want to get something off your chest and get on the show at the last part of each episode, when we have ah, call or call in and leave a comment question or go on a possible rant.
00:00:34
Whatever you gotta do, get off your chest.
00:00:35
We will put that at the end of the show and respond to it.
00:00:39
It was one of the easy ways for you guys, too.
00:00:41
Be able to actually talk to me on the show.
00:00:44
Get your questions answer to get your comments answered and actually get yourself on the show as well.
00:00:49
And they get the shadows to make sure you leave your name so we can shut you out properly.
00:00:52
And everybody knows who called in as part of the MD nation Curry Andy Nation community.
00:00:57
And it just one of the many ways that we have going on right now for you to be able to interact with the show we still can.
00:01:03
We still can interact on Twitter at M.
00:01:05
D S F F showings.
00:01:06
Look interact on Facebook at M.
00:01:08
D F of Show, and you could still email the show directly.
00:01:11
MDs fantasy football at gmail dot com.
00:01:14
Still, all those ways are accessible, but to get on the show, be part of the show, be part of the segment.
00:01:19
We're hoping that this will take off and that this will replace Ah, the mailbag segment that we usually would do well, see what winds up happening.
00:01:27
But go ahead and call that MD nation hotline 6093622 for a zero.
00:01:34
But now that that's out of the way, we have a few free agency moves that happened this week since the last time that I was able to talk to you guys that we got to go over in this one and a big one.
00:01:43
Of course, the biggest name I would say from fancy standpoint that happened since last Friday would be the signing off Melvin Gordon and Melvin Cory Man.
00:01:52
He signs with the Broncos in this one.
00:01:54
This is just if you're a fantasy football fan and not necessarily a Denver Broncos fan.
00:01:58
This was really the last thing that you wanted to see as far as Melvin Gordon actually signing on with Denver Broncos for for obvious reasons, right? Well, number one Melvin Gordon himself just lost a ton of fantasy value because now he's going to have to be splitting time with Phillip Lindsay.
00:02:12
It also destroys Philip Lindsay's value.
00:02:15
Royce Freeman the expectation, while he is on the roster at the moment, that they very well might just move on from him all together.
00:02:22
That was the big reason why they brought Melvin Gordon.
00:02:24
It was a big reason why they talked about all offseason wanting to bring a running back into parable Phillip Lindsay.
00:02:29
They seemingly have moved on from the Royce chairman Sweet say so Even if he winds up being on the roster, which I don't expect, he's not someone who clearly is in their plans and to be expected because now you have Pat Shurmur being the offensive coordinator.
00:02:41
He's not exactly a Pat Shurmur type off running back, so it doesn't really surprise me all that much that Royce Freeman would not be a guy that they're planning on being in their future.
00:02:51
Now.
00:02:52
What does this mean for Melvin Gordon and for Phillip Lindsay moving for the The idea is, what kind of split are we going to see? This is going to be a first and second down with gold line work in Philippians of being the passing down back is going to that kind of situation or we're going to see a dead on split.
00:03:06
My personal opinion by belief, is that it's going to be a split.
00:03:10
As far as overall touches go, both will be worked in the Russian game.
00:03:13
Both we worked in the passing game here and there.
00:03:16
Now the only question I'm not 100% sure about is whether we're going to see a general 55 45 split, maybe maybe 60 40 split possibly and this, and this would be in favor off Melvin.
00:03:28
Gordon has the bigger name getting paid the bigger amount of money.
00:03:31
It's more likely that he's going to be the guy to be the quote unquote ah starter that we're going to have their m so keeping that in mind, that's what we're kind of sitting there like.
00:03:41
Okay, we're going to have to see exactly, uh, what's going to happen as far as that split goes, but that would probably be the deal.
00:03:49
Now.
00:03:50
Is it just going to be an altar Neri and carry thing snap thing formation thing? Or is this going to be a situation where it's more like a Siri's by Siri's? Bass is kind of like what we saw back in the day, and I'm not that far back in the day with Tevin Coleman and Bonds A. Freeman.
00:04:05
All those years we saw quite a bit of that.
00:04:07
I wouldn't be surprised that wand up being a similar situation that we get to see here.
00:04:12
So I kind of keep that in mind.
00:04:15
Ah, and what will be able to do? There's far as that goes is ah, we'll be able to get a better projection, better idea once these guys get back in camp once he's gotta getto today's meeting.
00:04:24
Start talking the beat writers again.
00:04:25
We plan on doing that like we did a season ago.
00:04:27
Hopefully, we'll be able to do that again.
00:04:29
And if not, then we'll just keep our ears to the grindstone.
00:04:33
You can always falls along on Twitter at MDs FF chauffeurs player news update, notifications.
00:04:38
But that's what we That's what our expectation is as off now, just to kind of go back a little bit.
00:04:44
Melvin Gordon leaving the Chargers.
00:04:46
What does that mean? Look, as of right now, yes, Justin Jackson, Austin, eh? Clear.
00:04:51
The only two players left on the roster.
00:04:53
And, yes, they do seem to like Justin Jackson.
00:04:55
It wouldn't surprise me if they did go in the route of trying to utilize the two of them, but it would.
00:05:02
It would surprise me.
00:05:03
Then add somebody else, whether be through the draft or whether it be through somebody who's available in free agency and kind of look at the Bon se for him because right now there's some guys available who don't have a lot of clear landing spots who could wind up coming in cheap.
00:05:14
I think Freeman is somebody you could get on a one year perfect deal for pretty cheap right now, and it wouldn't really surprise me if they want it going that route.
00:05:21
We know Austin Heckler is not gonna be the guy who's getting, you know, seven targets game with 20 carries.
00:05:27
That's just not going to happen.
00:05:29
I think people are questioning okay, how much is Justin Jackson get? And while he's a nice little talent, I think Justin Jackson's more of a backup running back at the end of day, so we'll see exactly what ableto happen there.
00:05:38
But I would say as of right now, the expectation to me would be if they're going to add somebody, either through free agency or through the draft.
00:05:45
So I'm not gonna get to overly excited about the situation as it stands right now.
00:05:49
Other than knowing that Austin Ecker will have his role and especially in PPR league halfway PPR league, he's going to have Flex to R B two potential because he's going to have his role, his share of the workload, that much is for sure It's for the Chargers side.
00:06:02
Things go.
00:06:04
If you're in Dynasty leagues, I do want to point this out real quick. Phillip, Lindsay.
00:06:08
If you can sell him, I would sell him.
00:06:10
But they signed album according to a two year deal if he takes off there, and I think he will, because he fits that past summer system pretty well because he usually like to have those running backs who are a three down feature back.
00:06:21
So if he's able to fit that system pretty well, I think you will.
00:06:23
You might see him kind of edge out Phillip Lindsay to some degree, not.
00:06:26
I'm not saying that suddenly that he's gonna get thrown by the wayside, because that's not what's going to happen.
00:06:30
But Phil Menzies stock could go down, down, down and down as we get closer of Melvin, Quarter starts picking things up if he plays as good as we know he can, especially if he's able to stay healthy.
00:06:41
So kind of keep that in mind if you can.
00:06:43
As far as that situation goes now, another time, a movie we gotta talk about here would be, Ah, Emmanuel Sanders.
00:06:50
And in Emmanuel Sanders is case.
00:06:52
He goes the signs with saints, his value in it of itself.
00:06:56
I don't think it is going to be crazy high.
00:06:59
But what he does do is he frees up that offense to be a little bit more efficient.
00:07:04
He makes it so Events is can no longer key on just Michael Thomas and Alvin Kamara in the passing game.
00:07:10
Defense is going half through, actually respect that second wide receiver.
00:07:14
The person that does hurt the most, though, is Jared Cook.
00:07:17
Look, he didn't get a lot of targets until the end of the year as it was.
00:07:21
And if you Adam may know Sanders is going to be operating in a very similar territory over that middle of the field of intermediate part of the field that Jared Cook usually operates in, I do think may know Sanders will steal a lot of Jericho cooks work now.
00:07:34
This could be a situation where there are so many good weapons Drew Brees in to go one on ones that this entire offense could be one of being a top five offense and everybody can get theirs as a result.
00:07:45
So that's going to be the question is, do they go a little bit more up tempo? Do they let Drew Brees and what is most likely going to be his last season.
00:07:53
I know they got to your contract extension, but the word is that he was really like on the border of just retiring this year, so wouldn't be surprised me if it wants it being this season.
00:08:01
He just goes ahead and retires anyway.
00:08:03
But the most would be two seasons, and it kind of line it up and let him kind of do his thing.
00:08:08
If they do that, everybody will be able to get theirs.
00:08:10
May know Sanders, including himself, will be a guy who become a wide receiver.
00:08:13
Three in my book.
00:08:14
If that can happen because he's going to seeing as the second Corners, he's not gonna be the guy defense's air keying on so And he's also a very good veteran.
00:08:21
Why receiver? And he's the perfect type of wide receiver for Drew Brees because he's a guy who knows how to run a run.
00:08:27
A lot of routes lives, hiding routes.
00:08:28
Jew Breeze is a master of accuracy when it comes to those timing routes, so ah, there is some potential here.
00:08:34
He's somebody you're going to be able to take late because everyone's gonna know Look, it's gonna be? Thomas is going to tomorrow, Probably still gonna lead the team targets at the end of the day.
00:08:42
So I may know Sanders being the third option on his own team.
00:08:44
There's a pretty good chance we're talking about a guy who's gonna be the double digit rounds, and he's definitely going to outperform that 80 p.
00:08:50
And that's kind of what I first see happening here.
00:08:52
Kind of keep that in mind when you go in your redraft weeks with Emmanuel Sanders.
00:08:56
But the big thing here, Michael Thomas he's gonna be Michael Thomas.
00:08:59
He's gonna have some natural regression just because his target share was so high last season where the main Sanders coming in.
00:09:04
But I'm not worried about Sanders being the factor of why he loses targets.
00:09:08
And also, I would say it's pretty safe to say that Michael Thomas is still going get 140 plus targets this season.
00:09:14
He's Michael Thomas.
00:09:15
He's the number one wide receiver.
00:09:16
He's Macha proof.
00:09:17
He gets his targets no matter what.
00:09:19
He's still gonna be my number one guy, no matter what the scoring format is.
00:09:23
And, of course, Alan Kamara's still two dynamic where he's not gonna lose that many targets, either.
00:09:27
So I think there's just I think there's an option here where we could see the Saints maybe throw the ball a little bit more in general, where I don't think I may know Sanders coming in is actually going to steal a ton of targets away from the other players.
00:09:39
With the exception of Jared Cook, he's gonna be the guy that if I'm drafting, I'm drafting as a flier very, very late and drafts because it's going to be a huge question mark as far as what his role, what his volume is really going to be in all of this now.
00:09:51
So that's That's the kind of one we're gonna kind of workout throughout the offseason, especially get more into projections.
00:09:56
And I'm weighing those out now and doing the variables and algorithms and stuff of that very soon.
00:10:01
But that's kind of what we're looking at.
00:10:03
As far as you may know, Sanders goes next move.
00:10:05
The next big move that we want to talk about today is Robbie Anderson and with Robbie Anderson situation here.
00:10:12
He signs the Carolina Panthers and that has big.
00:10:15
If it has implications.
00:10:17
Mostly negative.
00:10:18
Put it for a lot of different purposes, right? Because first of all, okay, he leaves the Jets, stay signed.
00:10:23
Saw Pyramid to replace him.
00:10:25
That's fine, James.
00:10:26
And Crowder's the only wide receiver you wanna own.
00:10:29
There he's the only wide receiver, especially the Adam Gates offense was actually gonna get targets on a consistent basis from week to week.
00:10:34
So, James crowd, somebody's gonna go late.
00:10:36
He's gonna have nice, consistent volume for you there.
00:10:39
And that's so you can kind of pay attention to.
00:10:40
And that, I think, was gonna kind of be the case.
00:10:42
Whether Robbie Anderson want up staying or not now robbing issue on the Carolina Panthers.
00:10:47
The negative aspect of this is that I think this could really kill Curtis Samuels value.
00:10:53
You had to kind of look at it like this.
00:10:54
Joe Bree's gonna come in, and this indicates to me he's going to run his predominant three receiver set offense that he likes to be able to.
00:11:02
D'oh! That's that's number one.
00:11:04
So then when you fat repair that up, okay, you're gonna be a little bit more of a open offense and you were a season to go where it's pretty much We got deejay more.
00:11:11
We have Christian McCaffrey and then maybe once every two weeks, we work Curtis Daniel into that rotation, which was kind of how it was going for majority of that season.
00:11:20
You're gonna be a little bit more open in that sense.
00:11:22
Well, Krista McCaffrey get 100 catches again this year? Probably not.
00:11:27
Uh, not that is going too far off 70 80.
00:11:29
I think that's definitely stolen. The plausibility.
00:11:31
So we're not looking a huge drop off here when it comes to when it comes to that by any means, that's not what we're saying.
00:11:37
But what I am going to say is that with D. J.
00:11:40
Moore will still be the number one target here.
00:11:41
He's still going to be the guy that you want to own in the Carolina receiving corps.
00:11:45
At the end of the day, he's gonna run those underneath ground.
00:11:47
He's gonna run the route that Teddy Bridgewater is used to being able to throw and used to being able to do.
00:11:53
The real question mark is how open? How much are they gonna ask Teddy Bridgewater to throw the ball? And while we solve Definitely a capable of starting NFL caliber quarterback last season.
00:12:03
Is he going to be? The guys will come in and just Brandt wide open if he can.
00:12:07
Then all of a sudden deejay more Robbie Anderson and even to a lesser degree and sometimes in flex situations, Curtis Daniel are all gonna be able to have value on top of, you know, Christian Catherine being in the morning running back in fantasy football.
00:12:18
I don't care who you talk to, so that's gonna be the real question.
00:12:22
Mark, are you going to be allowed to sling it around and are you going to sling it around? Because now we do.
00:12:27
Dittemore Robbie Anderson, Corner Sam.
00:12:28
You're talking about three guys who could get deep on a consistent basis, But you're paired with a quarterback who doesn't necessarily throw the deep ball that often.
00:12:36
So that that's gonna be the question.
00:12:38
Does he adapt to stay where you are, get more aggressive now that he's going to be the most likely the starting quarterback? I think that's more of the question mark that everyone's gonna have toe wait and see on.
00:12:49
But here's what I'll say the end of day.
00:12:51
Joe Brady is a very good offensive mind.
00:12:53
They're gonna have a wide open offense and I really like the weapons that they have around them.
00:12:57
Robbie Anderson is still gonna be that guy who's gonna be able to come in and just win you a week out of nowhere.
00:13:02
But you gonna probably more in the inconsistent side.
00:13:04
You're probably talking about more of a wide receiver, three ****s type of guy.
00:13:07
And I think Curtis Angle for now, we have to consider him a wide receiver.
00:13:10
Four.
00:13:11
And so we start to see the targets and the offense itself get a little bit more up Temple get a little more wide open.
00:13:15
But DJ more is still a solid wide receiver to To me, Uh, you showed me a lot last year.
00:13:21
He improved quite a bit in his route running.
00:13:22
He just knows how to get separation, knows how to get open.
00:13:25
They move him all around the field.
00:13:26
There's a lot of things to like about D Jame, or especially in this job for the offense.
00:13:30
He fits that mold of this scheme perfectly, so they're gonna utilize him all over the field.
00:13:34
He's the guy that from week to week, I would expect is going to get the majority of the share and because he does line up all over the field, he's not.
00:13:40
Somebody has taken away automatically by a shutdown corner on the other teams.
00:13:45
That's kind of what I like to see here.
00:13:47
That's kind of my take on what that's going to, how it's gonna affect everybody there.
00:13:50
I'm not necessary situation I wanted to see.
00:13:53
I want to see Robbie Anderson go to a good offer sense that he could also been the number one.
00:13:57
And honestly, after he got traded after DeAndre Hawkins was traded to the Arizona Cardinals, I really thought the Houston Texans made a lot of sense.
00:14:05
They need another wide receiver.
00:14:06
Get another deep threat special Fuller, who gets her all time.
00:14:09
You can keep ah, weapon who can still take the top off of the defense.
00:14:13
And I knew at this point because was later on a free agency, he wasn't gonna command Aton of money.
00:14:18
I don't really understand why the text, especially since the only ones of getting a two year, $20 million years we're talking about $10 million a year for next two years.
00:14:24
I don't really understand why the Texans didn't go after him other than Bill O'Brien once again, is proving more and more as each day that he's more, more of an idiot when it comes to general managing.
00:14:34
So that's kind of what we're looking at there.
00:14:36
I was surprised. I was hoping I was going to his destination.
00:14:38
Caroline, for famously purposes, really kind of makes it a pain, but for the team wise, it could make this offense one.
00:14:44
The more dynamic offenses.
00:14:46
Ah, this upcoming season, depending and it's all gonna depend upon.
00:14:49
How good is Teddy Bridgewater are just a few honorable mentions I want to get through, but we don't actually go into great detail about.
00:14:58
And that would be Peyton Barber signing with Washington Kins.
00:15:01
The quick snaps is, there is.
00:15:03
I don't know what the Redskins are doing.
00:15:04
I don't know why they brought in paper Barber.
00:15:06
I don't know why they actually paid Peyton Barber a decent amount of money to bring him into stuff.
00:15:10
Agent Peterson, on the roster, who presumably would be doing the same thing picking Barbara would and has been doing it pretty well effectively.
00:15:16
And I don't know why you would bring in Peyton Barber.
00:15:19
Who does it even not as good as Adrian Peterson.
00:15:21
At the age of 35 you're paying Agent Peterson last less.
00:15:24
It doesn't make any sense.
00:15:26
But pain Barber, Agent Peters and various guys JD McKissick and Bryce Love, who we haven't even seen yet are all gonna be jumbled in that backfield.
00:15:35
Nobody's gonna know who's gonna be the guy.
00:15:37
And there may not be Ah, guy.
00:15:39
And that's what it's kind of shaping up to be.
00:15:41
So we're not sure what's going on there.
00:15:42
Big big synopsis would just be stay away from the Washington Kins rushing attack by by any means necessary because the fact that they signed Peyton Barber that too you have dairies, guys is able to come back healthy.
00:15:54
It doesn't sound like they plan on giving him a ton of Carrie's because you're gonna have to You're gonna have to make the contact you just gave Barber worth it.
00:16:02
Right? So that's gonna be the key situation there as far as a flip side of that Tampa Bay.
00:16:07
Yes, Ronald Jones, the last man left standing as of right now, but guaranteed whether it's through free agency.
00:16:14
Whether it's through the draft, Tampa Bay is going to be adding another running back.
00:16:17
So I would worst, you know, abstaining from giving any kind of real fantasy advice as faras.
00:16:23
That regard goes until we see what move they make next includes and dynasty not going.
00:16:28
Go out and trade for him if you can trade him away for a higher price tag, and you normally would have gotten from Ronald Jones because of the situation right now, I would do that in a heartbeat because I don't believe around Jones, actually good NFL running back.
00:16:40
But as it stands right now, I'm not overly excited about his fame.
00:16:44
Asi prospects.
00:16:46
Another quick I to mention Dion Lewis will be the backup to say Kwame Barclay for the Giants.
00:16:50
Something kind of keep in mind there.
00:16:52
Travis Benjamin Signs of 40 Niners.
00:16:54
Ah, I don't think there's much there for that one.
00:16:56
And Devon Funches signs with the Green Bay Packers.
00:16:59
Or or at least it is expected to.
00:17:00
I don't know that was actually made official yet, but then fund just going the Packers a little bit interesting However, at this point knowing what Devon Funches has after being her and not playing much really last two years now, I don't know what to really expect out of this guy.
00:17:14
So while in name, while in theory having a legitimate second wide receiver Davante Adams on the Green Bay Packers desperately need, I don't know if that punches really that guy and we know we can't.
00:17:25
You can't take off the top of the defense.
00:17:27
I think you're really gonna be there more to compete with scant Ling.
00:17:31
Compete with ST Brown for that second wide receiver spot.
00:17:35
So I'm I don't really I don't really think there's much fantasy value here to be had.
00:17:39
And frankly, I don't think this is the move the Packers need to make to get that legitimate second target for across the way from Davante Adams for Aaron Rodgers.
00:17:48
So the remains have you seen? This is all they wind up doing that we'll have.
00:17:51
We'll have a better idea.
00:17:52
We'll have ah more of a fantasy ****ysis for you, um, or hardcore one.
00:17:56
But as it stands right now, this is pretty much a nothing moved to me.
00:18:00
It doesn't move the needle at all for me in any kind of way doesn't effective on, say, Adams.
00:18:04
And it doesn't amplify Aaron Rodgers, in my opinion, at this moment.
00:18:08
So before we get into it right here, I'm going to give you the my bookie live read for you guys.
00:18:13
And even though there's no sports going on right now with my book, you can bet on almost anything, including Democratic nomination, the presidential election, even the name of the next pope joined now and start winning big today.
00:18:25
Visit my bookie dot a G and use promo code belly up for a 50% deposit bonus.
00:18:31
That's promo code belly that all right, Andy Nation and we are back here with our very special guest today to help us break down the quarterbacks and tight ends.
00:18:46
We're gonna talk about going into this draft class now.
00:18:48
If you weren't with us last year, what we do do we won't We don't go through every single player because that would take forever.
00:18:52
But what we d'oh as we go through a handful of guys that we know you're going to be hearing about throughout the draft process throughout.
00:18:59
Ah, what kind of fancy value and dynasty value that you're going to be getting throughout this entire thing and what guys you need to really know about in depth.
00:19:08
And that's why we do.
00:19:09
These shows kind of highlight these players, and I couldn't think of anybody better to bring on here than the belly of fantasy sports dot com Top Dynasty Writer Mr Houston Wenzel.
00:19:19
You confined him on Twitter at F See Houston W.
00:19:23
Houston.
00:19:24
How are you doing today, Dan? Are you excellent? Excellent.
00:19:28
One. Thank you for coming onto the show.
00:19:30
Is your first time on here? And hopefully we'll have you on throughout the season for everybody out there, especially on the dynasty purposes.
00:19:35
And make sure they're checking out your articles on belly up fantasy sports dot com whenever possible.
00:19:41
And I brought you in here today.
00:19:42
Of course, we'll talk about some quarterbacks to top it off, and I selfishly want to talk about my first quarterback.
00:19:49
There's number one on my board to attack Livilla.
00:19:51
Tell me your thoughts on some of your thoughts on him for me, will you? So when you first talk, you have to bring up Cherie of injury.
00:20:04
Fortunately, However, it's been video recently.
00:20:11
What work skills and he looked like be the top quarterback and I would agree.
00:20:19
Quiet.
00:20:20
Um, however, we probably will be Joe Burrow at 101 that make me mad at all, because think Theo may land and my it would be a better spot for him.
00:20:35
He may be able to sit for a year, which we saw with great but Brady.
00:20:41
There's that for a year learned from in benefit.
00:20:48
I agree that of all of the quarterbacks that are coming in, I do think that if he was the one who got to sit, it would definitely be the most beneficial for just to make sure he's fully recovered from that injury.
00:20:59
But reason? One of the reasons why he's my number one guys, I think the lobular making too much of that hip injury right now.
00:21:04
Coming into it, he has been cleared by doctors to ramp up his football activity.
00:21:10
He is expected to be healthy to take the field coming into training camp day one now because he's been a little banged up that I was career because he really missed half of this year.
00:21:19
I do agree with you.
00:21:20
He is somebody who I do believe if he could sit for a year, he would.
00:21:23
And the Dolphins, as to you said, Or even if it wanted being the Chargers, they surprisingly traded up to move into that spot.
00:21:30
Ah, you're talking about Two teams there with Ryan Fitzpatrick and in charge of the Tyrod Taylor are set up to allow him to sit for a year online with Cincinnati Bengals.
00:21:39
It would make some sense why they wouldn't be a possibly wanna go Joe Burrow in that instance, because they wouldn't necessarily have to.
00:21:45
But to me, he is the one generational quarterback in this draft class.
00:21:50
He's the guy who completely turn the franchise around.
00:21:53
There's nothing he can't do. He can.
00:21:55
He can improvise.
00:21:56
He can. He has a great arm.
00:21:58
He conflict it.
00:21:59
The one thing I love about him is being a lefty who can kind of just looking.
00:22:01
He reminds you so much of Steve Young.
00:22:04
That's why I keep harping on this.
00:22:05
Why is my number one guy? Because I'd compare him to a future Hall of Famer, quite frankly, and he's mobile and can do really a little bit of everything.
00:22:12
If he were the one up on the Dolphins, do you think he could wind up having value Year one taking over halfway through the season? Do you think it's really a city situation where you need to wait until year, too? And then what kind of fantasy values you gonna have after that? I do think if you went to the Dolphins, the plan would be to him Year one.
00:22:35
But as we know it right after key interception trouble, it wouldn't be hard for you.
00:22:42
Dolphins eight to a urine and I think wouldn't be the way they wanted to go.
00:22:50
But it and I think would have relatives in the fantasy game you'd be surrounded by wide receivers.
00:22:57
Devante part.
00:22:59
I'm really high on President William and what he showed last going down with injury.
00:23:04
Uh, the emergence of Michael, I would have the weapons, and I do think they bring, um, more weapons.
00:23:13
I'm in this draft class parent with the dollar.
00:23:17
Defense is getting better.
00:23:18
They should be able to play more.
00:23:20
Yeah, 7 20 So if you look called in the play and have to show up, I think provide the numbers were owners.
00:23:30
I agree that you think he's somebody who might want of being a streaming option, especially when you have the Monte Parker impressed Williams, Like you said, and a Chan Gailey system, they'll forget.
00:23:38
It's a It's a running gun type of system.
00:23:40
So they do like the third around.
00:23:41
They do like to open it up a little bit.
00:23:43
So there is a possibility there if he gets a chance.
00:23:44
A Ryan Fitzpatrick but moving along because we got a lot of guys we do want to talk about and we got We have to talk about Joe Borough, of course. Next.
00:23:51
Ah, probably most NFL ready quarterback.
00:23:54
But what's your early takes here? Just watching the tape on Joe Burrow.
00:24:00
I coming up there.
00:24:04
Great way Heisman Trophy winner You.
00:24:12
I watched him play in the world.
00:24:14
It and when he first.
00:24:16
But it sounds in the first half.
00:24:19
Three.
00:24:20
Yes, and greatest Evers L just.
00:24:23
And next year Jamaar Chase.
00:24:26
Um, I think I'd be stupid for the Bangles, not to pick Joe Burrow at the 101 I don't even know how the fans would react if they I did not do But if Joe Borough Dough bro quarterback back 10 half vanity numbers this year won't have any fission, I don't believe, though, land on keeping Andy Dalton much longer called the Bears that called other Maybe take them off.
00:24:52
Take him in their hand.
00:24:55
Um, I just traded for Tyler Boyd and one of my league because he got throw it to someone big bag.
00:25:04
Think they'll look to bring in more often the talents of Job World to come Um Fleck Dynasty Rookie draft.
00:25:16
Thank you for Joe Burrow at the 101 I just think that you will have a long career, that he can produce the numbers.
00:25:25
Yeah.
00:25:26
I mean, there's nothing really not to like about that guy coming in.
00:25:29
And the biggest thing for me right now with a lot of these rookies is situation, situation, situation where they're gonna wind up.
00:25:36
And with Joe Paro, we kind of have, You know, we have a pretty good idea that he's going to wind up on the Cincinnati Bangles and a couple of things that come with that are you have Zac Taylor, who runs the Steve McVeigh type of offense, and we're storming, storming back type of offense.
00:25:47
Excuse me, and one of the things with that is they have the perfect weapons to run that offense I thought they did.
00:25:53
A year ago, the problem was a J.
00:25:54
Green got hurt.
00:25:55
But you're going into this season, presumably with a healthy Tyler Boyd healthy A J.
00:26:00
Green and a possibly healthy John Ross, all of whom fit that system perfectly.
00:26:04
Don't forget about Joe Mixon if they can figure out anything along that offense of line to give him a little bit more protection.
00:26:11
Even as a rookie, I really could see this guy of being having a stream values faras redraft, maybe even a guy that you wouldn't say.
00:26:17
Hey, you know what? I don't care.
00:26:18
He's a rookie because the offense, because the weapons he has around him, I could see taking him as your late, late, late quarterback in the 16th round.
00:26:25
And that's just talking about redraft leaks.
00:26:27
I do think of all the quarterbacks, Joe Borough might actually have the most value going into 2020 because the situation he's gonna fall into its a better situation.
00:26:35
I think most people realize going into Cincinnati Bengals and as far as dynasty to your point.
00:26:41
Yeah.
00:26:42
I mean, look, him and two are definitely gonna have to be the top two quarterbacks you're going after for dynasty purposes and and in both the situations, the one thing he does have over to is that he has a better injury.
00:26:51
History, too, has been has been producing at a higher level for longer causes.
00:26:56
That's my big thing on Joe Burrow, and that's why I sold to a con over him.
00:26:59
A little bit of you know, you came out of nowhere in one year, and it was kind of a perfect situation. Ellis.
00:27:04
You always have athletes, but Joe Bray is a great offense of mine.
00:27:07
So the question's gonna be like, Okay, How much was Joe Borough? How much was this Joe Brady? I do think it's a question mark there, but he's definitely healthier on a consistent basis than to a is, and therefore we're talking about dynasty purposes.
00:27:18
If you're looking for that next quarterback who's gonna last you 10 15 years? Ah, that the safer bet might be Joe Burrow.
00:27:24
And he's not a bad situation where he's wanting up at.
00:27:31
I'll agree on one thing with the Bengals.
00:27:34
Williams will offense of tackle that in last year's draft and they to dress problem offense.
00:27:43
Why, oh, mix and had a great 2009.
00:27:47
He'll be able to take some of this off, bro.
00:27:49
Shoulders come into the league and that it's only gonna help him. He doesn't.
00:27:54
I don't think pressure on him are greatly right out of the gun, but he will find a stride and produced fantasy points for owners.
00:28:04
And the thing is, don't have to pay a premium price for him and redraft league, he's probably round quarterback.
00:28:17
We're not gonna be very sure on where they in year one.
00:28:22
Yeah, totally agree.
00:28:23
Then I say we talk about he has a lot of hit or miss ****ysis.
00:28:27
I personally like him a lot, especially if you were to wind up with, say, New England Patriots, which I think might be a big reason why they're not looking to sign different quarterbacks.
00:28:35
I think they might have this guy in their sights, uh, possibly not in the first round, maybe in the second round, But that guy would be Jake from and one of the big things I love about Jake from coming out is how much he can throw it around, how polished he is.
00:28:49
Yes, a lot of people to make a big thing about his arm.
00:28:51
But on tape, I consistently see this guy be able to throw with accuracy and with velocity outside the numbers.
00:28:58
And to me, being able to do that 15 20 yards down the field is more impressive and more indicative of your NFL arm strength and just being able to throw it a mile down the middle of field.
00:29:08
What's your take here on Jake from there? Houston? Yeah.
00:29:13
Um, I agree with everything.
00:29:15
Just that looking from death plea at Georgia didn't have the grades.
00:29:22
However deeper in the from state makes me more about what? This kid can actually bring relief.
00:29:27
I believe he has.
00:29:29
But when you watch him play because he doesn't have an actor arm with great ball, please.
00:29:36
Um, one thing I know about we'll record I George for the highest completion percentage.
00:29:44
I was the coach and wanted a quarterback.
00:29:45
I'd want a guy that can complete passes.
00:29:47
It doesn't help when you're throwing the ball around.
00:29:49
Wider speakers aren't catching it.
00:29:52
Uh, Bram is one of the more one of the forest cuties in this draft.
00:29:57
The natural ability to reduce.
00:30:01
Yeah, I totally agree with that.
00:30:02
That's why I was my biggest takeaway as well.
00:30:04
I mean, outside of a two and and Joe Borough, as their talent level goes, he is to me the most NFL ready He is a guy at worst, in my opinion, is going to be a creep back up.
00:30:15
But I think this is Guy Go.
00:30:16
Who's going to be an NFL starter now? Does he fit every cyst? Um, I don't know that he does.
00:30:21
I do think he needs to be in a more of a spread of mouth thinking, dunk type of system for him to really be able to sell, especially to talk about from a fantasy level.
00:30:28
But this is really a guy that I am big on and seemingly bigger than most on, especially, and I like to point The point you just brought up about Georgia is the point that I usually try to make.
00:30:38
In his case, this was not a guy who had a ton of weapons around him, especially last season, and people forget that they were very injured, especially up front against that offense of line here.
00:30:47
A lot of pressure in his face, all season long and wide receivers, to your point, who are consistently dropping the football Jake from is definitely somebody who's goingto have, I think, more dynasty value than redraft values, not something I'm looking.
00:30:59
The vessel we start this year, unless it is the perfect situation.
00:31:02
Like it was like maybe it was.
00:31:03
If it is New England, maybe he would have a chance in that situation that have some redraft availability.
00:31:08
But this is the guy who you can take in a dinosaur leak stashing for a year, See how we'll see what kind of situation he winds up in.
00:31:14
But I do think this guy in the long run is going to pay off and be a starter for some years to come.
00:31:19
Kind of pick it up here a little bit.
00:31:20
We're gonna go with Justin Herbert coming up next.
00:31:23
Well, let me hear your take on Doesn't her? Because I have a pretty ah ah, pretty controversial take on him my myself.
00:31:33
I'm actually Herbert.
00:31:37
Well, great.
00:31:40
And charters.
00:31:42
I think he does beat out Tyrod Taylor and stick for the starting job.
00:31:47
I think the Chargers have wanted really quarterback land.
00:31:51
Be joining Alan.
00:31:53
Great touchdown target.
00:31:55
Mike Williams.
00:31:57
Get a tag hunter Henry even back out the back bill in Austin.
00:32:01
Meckler over.
00:32:04
As I saw the Rose Bowl on where people were watching, he thought he'd be known for his arm Actually run in that people don't see in Herbert's game.
00:32:18
What like, um, he's very athletic, the box pocket and my only concern.
00:32:28
Chargers Don't pick him.
00:32:29
He may drop a little bit.
00:32:30
There might not be a need for a quarterback, but if he lands of the Chargers, I think you could be a really good fantasy quarterback here. One.
00:32:39
Now see? Yes.
00:32:40
Ah, lot of people agree with what you're saying right there.
00:32:44
So I acknowledge that here's here's what I will say. What doesn't Herbert.
00:32:47
Yes, he is a dual threat quarterback.
00:32:50
He could move around quite a bit.
00:32:52
I think just in her personal is going to be the biggest bust of the 2020 draft season and I I groove you.
00:32:58
I think there's a decent chance that he winds up playing with the Chargers because I think today Dolphins are pick ahead and they also have more ammunition to move up if their plan is to move up and draft to a tackle, a boa.
00:33:08
So I do think there's a better chance of Justin Herbert winds up on the charges, and I think it would be a big, big mistake.
00:33:13
My biggest things we just heard was that he did not improve, in my opinion at all in his three years in college is the guy who came in he can of those hyped as anybody else, and he showed out well early on, but he never really improved after that.
00:33:25
This is a guy who everyone keeps saying he has a big arm is big Rocket up yet he can throw it a mile down the middle of the field, and that's perfectly fine with me.
00:33:33
Except for this is a guy who's consistently inaccurate.
00:33:36
When asked, throw outside the numbers 15 to 25 yards down the field.
00:33:39
From from the film that I've seen, I didn't play her profile spotlight on him, Uh, you know, like a month ago or so now on and breaking that kind of downward like, yeah, he could put some velocity behind it, but it was consistently low.
00:33:52
It was consistency short, especially when to throw outside the numbers and actually make NFL throws.
00:33:58
And on top of it, I really question of this guy can actually read defense's all that.
00:34:02
Well, you're coming from the Oregon system.
00:34:03
It's set up for easy read.
00:34:06
It's set up for that one route that first look to be open, and if it's not, you can dump it off.
00:34:11
Or if you're in Herbert's case because you are mobile, you can kind of take off and run.
00:34:15
I didn't see a lot of improvement.
00:34:17
That's why I think it would be my biggest bust.
00:34:18
I get a lot of heat for that, and I don't care because I'm sticking to my guns on this one.
00:34:22
I There's not a lot of Justin Herbert that I see, especially when it comes to consistency and technique, and I don't have a big great on quarterbacks who come into coming from college who aren't that accurate, and he's not that accurate.
00:34:33
It's why I've never been a big fan of Josh Allen.
00:34:36
I continue to be knocked down.
00:34:37
A fan of Josh Allen for that reason.
00:34:39
Because typically, quarterbacks who do not improve their accuracy and college not improve their actually.
00:34:42
Then in the NFL, do you wantto rebuttal anything I just said there? No, I mean turn that is concerning.
00:34:53
The NFL can't buildable Eicher and give your wider Stever first of all your offense put up anything in the fancy production.
00:35:04
Yeah, that's kind of what it boils down to for me, but I know I'm kind of in the minority on that one, which is perfectly fine.
00:35:10
Next I want to talk about is Jalen hurts.
00:35:12
This is probably the first quarter after talking about that.
00:35:14
Ah, well, that's not sure Jake from probably won't go in the first round either.
00:35:17
But one of the quarterbacks is probably go after the first round.
00:35:20
Maybe has a giant a chance to go with late first if somebody were to trade back in.
00:35:23
We've seen that over the past couple of years.
00:35:26
Give me your take for ah, jail on her stare.
00:35:30
Well, much of people don't like jail in her I fantasy producing quarterbacks.
00:35:39
Your glands in the right situation has been kind of quiet.
00:35:44
Among out look, a mock draft and everything is names.
00:35:49
Very quiet.
00:35:50
But if I can remember correctly, wasn't Lamar Jackson very quiet? Were many NFL teams as far as being a quarterback, I was that some degree? Yeah, and the thing teams kept quiet about Lamar Jackson because they wanted, well, owner.
00:36:09
You just know how to win.
00:36:10
Finished with record as a starter, leadership eyes acting Yeah, away from Alabama could take over for him and then continue to come out and lead a team to win when he called upon.
00:36:28
In the most important, one thing about jail and hurt is he has leg, just like Lamar Jackson quarterback.
00:36:38
Going for the lead changes every year.
00:36:41
Um, as much as they used to be a passing league last year, I'm pretty sure the top pick didn't make the playoffs.
00:36:49
Uh, running team didn't make the playoffs.
00:36:53
Something that you want to hear of.
00:36:54
Just a few years ago back I heard dual threat ability.
00:37:00
Um, as we know with, like, Lamar Jackson, the Russian staff can add up, and that's really good for Stan.
00:37:07
See, production.
00:37:08
One week.
00:37:09
Burt has, uh oh man.
00:37:15
And I might be a reason why you dropped down draft board, but he just needs to get well proven.
00:37:22
That is the Eddie enter fully? Yeah.
00:37:27
Look, the player comparison I have for Jill and Hearst is Tyrod Taylor.
00:37:32
I think he's kind of a similar career path because what we could see from him, the guys that come in, you're not gonna start right away.
00:37:38
I don't think no matter who drafts him, frankly, but he can come in.
00:37:41
He has that dual threat ability.
00:37:44
He maybe he, at some point in his career, will get opportunity to shine.
00:37:47
And to your point, from a fantasy perspective, he's gonna probably produces gonna probably be a streamer during that time period if he gets the start for more than you know, half a season gets to be the starter for another full year after that.
00:37:58
Kind of like how tire I did.
00:37:59
It could be somebody people are looking at as a quarterback.
00:38:02
You could take late.
00:38:03
You could maybe finish inside the top 12.
00:38:04
I don't deny any of that.
00:38:05
He has a lot of good fantasy aspects to his game, but dealing hers is one of these guys.
00:38:11
He kind of makes me laugh in the ****ysis around it because there's seemingly a lot of people who want to give him Ah lot of credit for making this big improvement jump in Oklahoma.
00:38:21
And all I keep saying is Oklahoma runs a very different offense.
00:38:24
Yes, of course, he was going to have a big production jump.
00:38:26
That's what they do in Oklahoma.
00:38:28
I I don't see anything different from his game film from Alabama.
00:38:33
Oklahoma spars.
00:38:34
His actual technique is consistency, his accuracy.
00:38:36
I don't see any of that as an improvement.
00:38:38
He's always been a guy who could make a play that you don't expect him to be able to make.
00:38:41
He's always been a guy who has a good arm.
00:38:43
You get to field the ball down the field.
00:38:45
But he's also always been a guy who has been inconsistent.
00:38:48
I think he's going to struggle with interceptions throughout his career unless he learns how to be a veteran learned how to play it safe because the start later in his career was kind of like comparing the Tyrod Taylor in that sense.
00:38:58
But there were early on.
00:39:00
There's not so much anymore, but early on in this process there was talk about Jalen hers, maybe sneaking his way into the first round.
00:39:06
There's still something that creates kind of cooled off more of a second round, and I was just sitting there laughing my ass off because I'm just like he hasn't improved.
00:39:13
I just love how, every single year these guys get swept up in these college producing numbers and you look at Oklahoma.
00:39:18
They don't play anybody who has a defense until the playoffs later on.
00:39:22
And then they get beat by everybody who actually can play them kind of physicality.
00:39:25
And don't just let their four wide air raid system just open up a defense and running on dhe throw all over him through Oklahoma.
00:39:32
They're going to have numbers in that system.
00:39:34
There's a lot of other things that he did.
00:39:35
I'm not trying to come off as I'm dumping on.
00:39:37
Jalen Hurts come not I do like the guy quite a bit, but it just kind of makes you left.
00:39:41
All of a sudden, he's going to be this highly touted prospect guy coming out when he just had, so you didn't actually show any improvement when you actually watched the film? The actual technique and throwing the football.
00:39:51
He just had a better offense, is going to produce better numbers.
00:39:54
And all of a sudden, if you're a quarterback out of Oklahoma, suddenly you're going to be talked about as a first rounder.
00:39:59
I'm now officer in the jury's out on Baker. Mayfield.
00:40:02
Why was he a number one pick to me? The jury should be out.
00:40:04
It doesn't seem like it is as much about jury should be out on collar, Murray, because this is a guy who impressed me.
00:40:09
Ah, lot his rookie season, either.
00:40:11
So at some point, these offenses need to be taken into consideration.
00:40:15
But I think hers somebody could have some value down the road.
00:40:18
But I just the hype on him, I thought just got a little bit out of control.
00:40:21
I don't know if you want a rebuttal any of that.
00:40:26
I would agree, Uh, I don't think the year one starter, I think year, whether it be good or maybe that dwindled out.
00:40:38
I'm you don't need huh? Or point.
00:40:47
I mean, have a pretty prolific off.
00:40:50
They play many good defensive and when you do have my top wide receiver in this draft class, be the land of it makes life a little bit easier.
00:41:01
Yeah, that's a great point as well that I didn't even ah, bring up When you have a top talent.
00:41:06
Why receiver like that? That's going to talk about here.
00:41:09
Jordan love.
00:41:10
Now with this guy.
00:41:11
He's probably one of the more height about prospects, right? Probably won them. Or boomer bus guys.
00:41:16
He could be a franchise guy or he could be a guy was out of the league in a few years.
00:41:19
What's what's your take on Jordan Levin? What you've seen out of him so far.
00:41:24
You know, uh, he is right around in any Marked and I don't really understand.
00:41:33
The height didn't have enough where he threw for 3507 yards to touch.
00:41:43
Interception numbers are great, but if you look the 19 or any touchdown in interception, I just don't understand.
00:41:53
Don't have that arm strength right? One does every game, and I finally felt when watching double coverage more off Well, all right.
00:42:08
No, I agree with what you're takes away the issues that he has, and that's why I think you know, he is looked at as a boom or bust type of product.
00:42:17
I like Jordan.
00:42:18
Love a lot.
00:42:19
Mike have yacht, would be it ha he has.
00:42:22
He's one of the quarterbacks here who has to wind up in the right situation.
00:42:26
For him to really have a chance.
00:42:27
He has probably, I think, probably the best live arm in this draft class.
00:42:32
Dig up Easton's might be a little bit stronger as far as how far you can stretch up he is.
00:42:35
He has the most zip on his passes at any level of the field.
00:42:39
Of all these quarterbacks, I believe he has a lot of raw talent to him.
00:42:43
He is more mobile than people.
00:42:44
I think realized Ah, but the thing with Jordan loves like I player comped him to a more raw to Shawn Watson, though he kind of throws the ball in a similar way.
00:42:54
In my mind, he's not quite as fast but kind of plays similar style or he'll take off and run and nothing's open down the field.
00:43:01
Ah, he's kind of that mold of quarterback.
00:43:02
He just has a longer way to go as far as his technique and everything is and I totally agree with you.
00:43:07
The double coverage.
00:43:08
He has that gunslinger mentality.
00:43:09
That bread for mentality was like My arm can get anything anywhere, and I'm just gonna YOLO it by a pressure in my face because I believe that even throwing off my back foot, I can still throw it 50 yards on the time.
00:43:19
He does have that mentality that will get him into trouble.
00:43:22
Ah, from time to time, he needs to go in the second round.
00:43:25
I agree. There's no reason why he should be going in the first.
00:43:27
He's he's too much of a project to be going in the first round.
00:43:30
Unless you're sitting there like as a playoff team, where you think your quarterback is only a couple of years away from maybe retiring and let's say, let's say Pittsburgh, for instance.
00:43:39
You know you have to replace Ben Roethlisberger.
00:43:41
Some point you're picking later on the draft, it would have to be a situation like that for him to go in the first round.
00:43:46
I agree with you know, he should be going in the second round.
00:43:48
He's just somebody who's he's either gonna hit and hit big or he's just or he is gonna be one of the bigger bus that we talk about later on who disappeared rather quickly as faras the quarterbacks go Ah, we do need to pick up the pace here a little bit because we still have more tight ends we gotta talk about.
00:44:05
And we got one more quarterback here in Jacob Eastern, uh, Jacob East, and I'm gonna give my thing real quick to me.
00:44:12
He is nothing more than a guy who has a strong arm and everybody was a fall in love because of that.
00:44:17
But as far as being an actual pastors for being actual quarterback goes, I think this is a guy who's just gonna be a backup.
00:44:23
That Bessie reminds me way too much of Ah, Ryan Mallett.
00:44:27
What's your take here on Jacob Eastern? Yeah.
00:44:31
I don't believe you will go in the 1st 2 rounds of the NFL draft My back up, what with very strong arm can up in record between two levels of defenders, something that will make However, I don't.
00:44:49
I think that will be much more than a backup.
00:44:52
And at the back of an NFL, you're not going have any vanity production, right? Exactly.
00:44:59
Like I said, it reminds a lot Ryan Mount, where he might find herself a situation or coaches want to give a chance because he has enough all.
00:45:06
He has an NFL.
00:45:07
We are that that's without a doubt.
00:45:08
But you're gonna fight is inefficient.
00:45:10
And here's gonna keep running in the accuracy issues before we move on into the tight ends.
00:45:15
I want to give you guys the fanatics live.
00:45:17
Read here they are the number one for Can't talk today fan sports apparel, Memory boost or in the world get access to all their available discounts by clicking on the link from the MDC football show from our posts on social media, you can go to Twitter at M.
00:45:31
D S F F show or you can go to Facebook at M.
00:45:34
D F F show and click on the links today to get all of the latest deals.
00:45:39
Now, Next up, we got the tight ends.
00:45:41
Now, this is not a strong tight end classes, especially for we're talking about fancy purposes.
00:45:47
But there are a few tight ends that are gonna be talked about that I do have some kind of sneaky value.
00:45:51
If they were wind a ping in the right situations and number guy.
00:45:54
One guy that we want to talk about you guys today is Cole commit.
00:45:58
So he said, Why don't you give us your take here on a cold comment? What he might've it'll bring to the table so I would agree.
00:46:06
Commits draft.
00:46:10
I wonder where making, but most don't know that he is a little sport athlete at Notre Dame.
00:46:19
He didn't play baseball well, but as we thought that was a 19 focused primarily on football on it, really help them.
00:46:26
Um, command, one of the best tight ends in this league are in this draft, and I think that he has a good shot of ending up in what new coach Ron Rivera.
00:46:40
If that does happen, I do see round a very you cement and Britt at the griddle, and he would produce more.
00:46:49
That ranking against the current pit ends in the league.
00:46:52
I don't know, but I will will have production if he is under Ronald Bear in washing.
00:46:59
I like that a lot.
00:47:00
I like that. Take a lot ending up with Washington.
00:47:02
I hadn't really thought about that as a possible destination, I guess, because I kind of, in my mind think whole command has a chance to go in the first round.
00:47:09
I think he's the only time and chance in the first round.
00:47:11
So I kind of kept thinking about these teams that were in the twenties later on.
00:47:15
That maybe needed tight end.
00:47:16
The composite go.
00:47:17
Washington would be a great fit because your point, he is kind of like a Greg Olsen.
00:47:21
In that sense, I actually my player competition is actually a Heath Miller, Um, for one reason.
00:47:26
One reason on Lee.
00:47:27
Yes, he's all round also like Greg Olsen.
00:47:29
But Cole commit has that natural instincts I believe in when it comes to zone coverages and find the hole in making himself available for for his quarterback to be able to move the chains on a consistent basis, something I kind of saw him consistently I do.
00:47:44
While he does have some ability to go down the field, I was impressed with his 40 what I didn't expect in the runner 47 So I did.
00:47:51
I did take me by surprise.
00:47:52
I thought was gonna be a little bit closer to the four eights.
00:47:54
Mid 475 kind of deal like that.
00:47:56
So the fact he's gonna run for seven show a little bit of speed, Maybe he'll have more of an ability than what I saw consistently on tape as far as them being able to stretch the seem, Uh, but he does can you can do a little everything.
00:48:08
These guys gonna be on the fueled 24 7 because he can block.
00:48:11
You can do all those things.
00:48:12
He's probably a few tight ends that is all around in this draft class, and I like that fit alive.
00:48:17
You want up in Washington? That would be an excellent.
00:48:19
It'd be a great safety player for Dwayne Haskins.
00:48:21
Ah, there aren't have familiarity that brought in all the coaches from Carolina.
00:48:24
Essentially.
00:48:25
So, yeah, I would like that fit a lot for him now.
00:48:27
When it comes to him, though, I think he's the only tight end who truly has.
00:48:32
I went to the old one.
00:48:33
There is one more time and I think might have some re Dr Value this season because you could be on the field a little bit.
00:48:37
Maurin might have a chance to start start possibly Ping on where he winds up at, but we call come out.
00:48:44
I think he's one of you does have some redraft ability.
00:48:46
But when it comes to tight ends in general, a lot of times you can't you can't get these guys and read, Not now.
00:48:51
In the rookie year, you can't get them in re drive because there's not gonna be utilized.
00:48:54
Same way there's a longer learning curve.
00:48:55
Ah, so cold commit.
00:48:57
He is the guy that I'm looking at in dynasty leagues.
00:48:59
I know you're going to feel all the time.
00:49:01
There's a better chance.
00:49:02
You gotta have a longer career than a lot of these guys out there because the way you're built, he doesn't get hurt as much.
00:49:06
So I do like him a lot.
00:49:07
In that sense for Dynasty leaves, you look at that tight end of the future.
00:49:11
I do believe that could be cool.
00:49:12
Calm especially, Yeah, I like that call a lot if he goes in and, ah, Washington the next day.
00:49:17
We want to talk about here, and this is for me more so because you're going to hear a lot about him because he's Randy Moss is son Fattest mosque.
00:49:24
Go ahead and give us your take on Daddy's most for us.
00:49:28
Yeah, so I mean, the way you just his dad is Randy Moss, and that's really gonna make it.
00:49:34
Name Reid.
00:49:35
However, I know you joke Borough, that touchdown and Daddy's ma four of them them coming in the national shape.
00:49:47
If you're trying to find a Randy Moss in Saudi is you're not gonna find it.
00:49:51
I believe it's just in our ordinary athlete, that one.
00:49:55
One thing I do like, build me the block in there.
00:49:59
However we know because you have a ability to block in their own game doesn't mean you're catching touchdowns catching passes.
00:50:07
I make your really fancy and die.
00:50:11
Please.
00:50:12
I might What the Adam and later in the later rounds you're out, however, to march on the fantasy.
00:50:22
Yeah, if you could tell me right now that Daddy is Moss would get moved to a fullback situation on the team that actually using because there aren't that many teams out there.
00:50:31
But just just throwing to spit balling out there.
00:50:34
If you want it on a team like San Francisco you want on the team like Baltimore and actually you lies or fullback from time to time.
00:50:40
I think we'll have a better NFL career.
00:50:42
Obviously, I was not going to a fancy because of your fullback or fancy or all of it.
00:50:45
And that his mom is gonna be thing is irrelevant.
00:50:47
He's not quick.
00:50:48
He's very stiff in the hips.
00:50:50
So while he has some nuance to his route running ability, you could tell he learned from his dad growing up.
00:50:55
He's not going to run away from anybody in the NFL.
00:50:58
That's, that's for sure.
00:50:59
And why was it a shame that he got hurt for the combine? Honestly, I don't think he was going to have a great workout because the combine really only benefits players that are athletic freaks.
00:51:09
He is not one of those guys.
00:51:10
He is a guy who has made his name for him being a fundamental blocker.
00:51:13
He's not a pass catcher.
00:51:14
That's why I want to bring up that he's Moss here.
00:51:16
I don't think he's a guy who's going to draft before the sixth round, quite frankly, if it could possibly not even get drafted, it all, but we want to bring it up because people are gonna talk about because his daddy is Moss.
00:51:25
And I want to make sure nobody makes the mistake of thinking that he is this athletic, uh, overgrown wide receiver who's playing tight end. He is not.
00:51:33
He is a block first type of guy, So Ah, Glad you thought that way.
00:51:36
Glad you said that.
00:51:37
And that's that's kind of why we brought him up.
00:51:40
Ah, and when to make sure everyone knows that.
00:51:42
So I wouldn't touch him in dynasty leagues.
00:51:43
He's never gonna have re job value.
00:51:45
Obviously s O.
00:51:46
That is most kind of just staying away from and making sure you guys know that name.
00:51:49
Now, this next guy, I'm not going to try to pronounce his last name.
00:51:52
We're gonna call him AL Borough.
00:51:53
This is Nick name through college.
00:51:54
We're gonna stick with that nickname.
00:51:56
Ah.
00:51:57
What's your daycare on? Albert? Oh, who had the fastest 40 at the combine? Thanks.
00:52:04
Glad you called a Marlboro, where a lot of people will call him, but run that one the past 40 one.
00:52:14
He's got a small tight and either five line of press it for 9 40 Playmaker, play about any right and position.
00:52:26
One thing I do not the best route runner struggling great separation with its route, although he's a big threat and the red bone brought in 23 total touchdowns.
00:52:39
Hurry, Um, think you can make a difference for the room in the red zone for interval.
00:52:46
All right.
00:52:47
I don't really know where he can land that Miles.
00:52:53
Yeah.
00:52:54
This is another guy who's gonna be very situation dependent, right? Because, look, we're talking about guy whose greed, straight line speed, he could run away from people down the field.
00:53:04
You could definitely charge at the scene.
00:53:05
I have him cops as a poor man.
00:53:07
Version of no offense.
00:53:09
And what was the big game on? No offense.
00:53:10
He doesn't have a round tree.
00:53:12
Albert.
00:53:13
Oh, really Doesn't have around here.
00:53:14
And I don't know if you can ever develop one because you're talking about a guy who you want somewhat stiff in the hips.
00:53:19
This is Somebody needs to stretch him out, somebody to teach him ballet something.
00:53:22
He'd go and give this guy a yoga class.
00:53:24
He looks like he can't move left or right when he's out there on the field.
00:53:28
It takes a year and 1/2 for him.
00:53:30
to turn a corner on an out route.
00:53:32
The That's the My biggest thing with Albert, So I think we're talking about a guy who is it athletic specimen as faras, the size like you brought up there can run.
00:53:41
You can run past almost anybody, especially for how big he is at 449 incredibly impressive and you see it on film.
00:53:48
But unless he's in a situation where he can just have a linebacker one on one, he could just one past him.
00:53:54
I don't know this guy who's ever gonna be really that consistent.
00:53:57
He's always gonna be that guy who you're gonna wonder about and has some athletic appeal.
00:54:01
But at the end of the day, isn't really going to ever be utilizes it, really, ever gonna be a featured guy who's ever gonna actually take off and be anything more than a backup? So I think he's one of those guys.
00:54:11
You're only talking about a dynasty leagues anyway, as far as value goes, and he's one of the guys.
00:54:15
I would let someone else grab him and make that mistake, and I would open up that draft spot for a guy who might actually have a better time career.
00:54:22
I don't see it out of Albert.
00:54:23
Oh, unless you suddenly gets way more flexible than what he is. Definitely.
00:54:29
Now, this next I want to talk about, though Harrison Bryant is is that guy I was talking about a little bit earlier that I think could sneakily have some re Dr Value if you want it in the right situation.
00:54:40
Because this is the other all around tight end coming into this draft class who very well may have a chance to make it impact early on.
00:54:48
What would you like about Harrison Bryant? Who thinks I know? You said you liked him earlier.
00:54:53
Yeah, I really like Brian.
00:54:57
I being one of the top tight ends in this class.
00:55:01
Mayerson Brian have a bit of the ninth at Florida Atlantic on her head.
00:55:06
Coach Lane Kiffin.
00:55:08
Uh, See, you don't see this A ton, Ryan.
00:55:12
1000 yards.
00:55:14
I have a collegiate tight end.
00:55:16
We never see tight end over unless they're pretty special.
00:55:20
You've been all around where Very high seven. Max to the ball.
00:55:26
Um, you go in the might be able another.
00:55:31
I mean, £243 get away.
00:55:38
The waiter, um one like think join job Earl and Cincinnati.
00:55:46
You know, we didn't see Joe Borough used various monster fun.
00:55:49
L u I do think with Brian being in Cincinnati, joining your borough goes to get a very good connection and could be a fantasy producing tight end year one.
00:56:02
You would be a later on option and redraft in and sitter taking him in the third the fourth round of rookie draft and being very happy with what he could bring the money team in the future.
00:56:15
Yeah, I do like that call quite a bit myself.
00:56:18
Ah, that's definitely a great fit.
00:56:20
Especially since you're talking about a team that you know.
00:56:22
Not that Tyler Eifert has been much because these back issues, But he did just sign with the Jacksonville Jaguars.
00:56:27
He's not there.
00:56:28
They do.
00:56:29
They do need another tight and see who's been.
00:56:31
Uh uh.
00:56:33
I almost called it.
00:56:34
I always combined. Ah, CJ Houshmandzadeh.
00:56:36
Until one person there CJ Guzman is definitely not the guy for the future.
00:56:41
Right? So yeah. Harrison Brown, you're talking to the guy.
00:56:43
Maybe third round, fourth round in the NFL draft. Probably go.
00:56:47
He would be somebody that he could.
00:56:48
They could probably pick up that point with their draft picks.
00:56:51
So that is a plausible and a good spot for a guy like that.
00:56:55
Yeah, Harrison, Brian, He's to me. He's a guy.
00:56:58
He was in the smaller school.
00:56:59
Ah, lot of people don't know about him coming into it, but there's nothing he really can't do.
00:57:03
He has the right size you're looking for.
00:57:05
He can block a little bit.
00:57:06
He has to get a little bit better, a little more power in his run blocking ability.
00:57:10
Ah, but it's news.
00:57:11
He's able to do that.
00:57:12
He'll be really good. I think he would really excel in an offense.
00:57:14
I would use him as an H back, and I do think with Zach Taylor and what his background is would actually probably utilize them in that type of area are just a team like that where he could be kind of move in and kind of be like that.
00:57:26
Fullback flex tight end kind of be utilizes the peace all around and because he is of these in blocker, he's still going to be on the field most of time and be that starter Harrison Bryants means a sleeper guy that you have to look out for in dynasty drafts.
00:57:38
It may be a year from now, but I think it'll only be a year from now in year two for him that he will be able to come back with some nice dynasty value for you guys and be a Titan that we're talking about later on is possibly a top 10 top 12 type of guy When we get the redraft leagues and in a year or two from from now, he doesn't have the big athletic ability.
00:57:58
I think you could actually Ah, could really be definitely a ah redraft assets at this moment, but definitely somebody who I think is going thio make amore waves and be more of a star than people are giving credit for it, especially in a tight in class a lot of people are overlooking in general.
00:58:14
The next day I want to talk about here is Hunter Bryant, no relation, and with them with 100 Bryant here I have him calm as a Jordan Reed.
00:58:23
This is your prototypical fantasy.
00:58:25
Tight end is the type of guy you're looking for, where you know he's more of a glorified wide receiver playing the tight end position.
00:58:31
Ah, he's so whether some of things that you saw about 100 Brian here, you probably more and more thing 100.
00:58:41
But after what? I just ran the same route.
00:58:45
College career.
00:58:47
Yes, you did run a pretty well, but I think running maybe one minute and now.
00:58:51
And they were smart enough to hide that, Um, I want to turn it frank.
00:58:58
Combine drink with after posting 23 wraps up to 25.
00:59:04
Really, he is a lot stronger than I originally thought.
00:59:07
Oh, he's not the greatest run blocker, but he doesn't feel it more of a lottery fever in my eyes.
00:59:13
His ball skills are pretty.
00:59:16
I do like when I waiting.
00:59:20
Yeah, I agree.
00:59:22
That's why, compared with Jordan, really even had a similar work out the Jordan Reed, too.
00:59:25
I mean, he ran a 474 door and re ran a 475 I think a lot of people forget that Jordan Reed didn't run that great over 40.
00:59:32
Those people expect him to.
00:59:33
I agreed to.
00:59:34
He did run.
00:59:35
He doesn't have the full route tree or At least we didn't see him run the full round tree in Washington on a consistent basis.
00:59:41
But he has the hips of a wide receiver in high school.
00:59:44
He was actually a running back.
00:59:46
He has that athleticism where I think it's something he's definitely going to develop the next level.
00:59:51
He just needs to go to a team.
00:59:52
It's gonna be able to utilize them in.
00:59:54
Such doesn't isn't going to need to call on him to be a block because he's a terrible blocker.
00:59:58
It doesn't matter of its past blocking, run blocking.
01:00:01
He's he's not.
01:00:02
That guy likes that.
01:00:03
He's a he's an overgrown Why receiver? Who's too thick to actually play the wire Seaver position.
01:00:07
So you kind of make him a flex tight end situation.
01:00:09
He's gonna fit somewhere because flex tight ends are in high demand.
01:00:12
People always want them somewhere.
01:00:14
So he's somebody.
01:00:15
Well, I'm gonna take.
01:00:16
He's actually got kind of sneaky redraft value to pickle where he winds up if you want.
01:00:20
Valentina actually has ah tight end need and needs to actually feature somebody in their offense as a weapon before, he said.
01:00:27
Harris and Bryant going to the residents.
01:00:29
That was kind of what I had in mind, especially comparing him to Jordan Reed.
01:00:32
It felt like a natural fit there.
01:00:34
Um, but yet he I usually hear what you're saying on that.
01:00:38
Definitely true.
01:00:39
But I think you're talking about guys going to really develop as faras past catching goes.
01:00:43
Ah, the question will be, of course, does he want to put a team that needs a tight end to be able to also run block? If that winds, that being the case, I'll question how much he's able to get on the field.
01:00:52
And he's also not a guy who's being as touted as Jordan Reed coming into the draft, either he's gonna go a lot lower.
01:00:57
There's not gonna be as much invested in him.
01:00:59
To get him going right away is the other interesting thing.
01:01:02
It will have to wait and see what happens with him.
01:01:05
The last guy we're talking about today's podcast is Adam Trautman, and this is one of my favorite guys.
01:01:10
Talk about this is the sleeper of sleepers.
01:01:13
This is the guy that a lot of people don't know about, but because he played in such a small school we played in D two, you didn't play d one ball, but this guy has the prototypical size you want has the athleticism that you want.
01:01:24
And I think Adam Trauma is really gonna shock some people and be a name that people will find out.
01:01:28
Maybe in a year or cue from now.
01:01:30
He's not gonna start right away.
01:01:31
He still Raul at the tight end position has only been a Titan for about a year.
01:01:35
Houston, tell us what you think about. I'm Trautman.
01:01:40
I agree.
01:01:42
Deduction to make him stop tired And whoever scouts are hesitant did plant FBI and they are still unsure if you could bring it into the next level.
01:01:52
However, Trautman is very talented, Very good athlete.
01:01:57
Why was he here most of the time? Lined up? I did, however.
01:02:02
And then earlier years A day played him in the wild cat position.
01:02:07
Trautman Baller.
01:02:08
When he has the ball in, you're the good job of getting tops you despite being a bigger dead end.
01:02:15
I do believe that draft will favorite tight ends have planned the college level.
01:02:24
I would like Trump Weingartner, man.
01:02:27
She with the jag wires only defined.
01:02:31
I have injury concerns, and I think Charlyne would be good guy to bring in and let him your ear or maybe just learned the system better and become a in years to come.
01:02:45
Yeah, I like that a lot.
01:02:46
So he's definitely somebody's gonna have to develop Ah, especially in his blocking ability.
01:02:50
I think he will be able to do that.
01:02:52
The NFL level because of his size.
01:02:54
He has natural strength on there's.
01:02:56
There's going to be a longer learning curve with him because he just has been planted in that long and he's going to have the biggest jump as far as talent competition goes because he was playing for date and he wasn't playing for a big school, so he's gonna have a longer learning curve.
01:03:08
But he has the talent there.
01:03:11
I literally like this guy a lot, so if you're in your dynasty leagues, you want to pick up somebody later on who has some upside of tight end position.
01:03:17
I do think that in Trotman's going to shock some people, especially upcoming in the years to come in That one last tip it'll have on him is that he plays a lot faster than his 40 would suggest.
01:03:27
He only wanted burning a 48 I thought I was gonna be in the forest that low four sevens at that.
01:03:31
But his tape shows a much more athletic, much more faster guy who definitely can stretch the seam.
01:03:36
I believe at the next level that actually wraps up the show for today.
01:03:41
I hope you guys all enjoyed it.
01:03:42
Went through a handful quarterbacks and tight ends for you guys there.
01:03:45
Ah, Houston.
01:03:46
Before we let you go, can you please tell the MD Nation exactly where to find you? And what's something that you're gonna be working on coming out the next? Ah, few days here.
01:03:59
Twitter, our main account.
01:04:01
Final drive.
01:04:03
You can also find my personal account at in the finished on march here.
01:04:11
I'm currently working on the wide receiver, right.
01:04:15
You can see where I rank my current wide receivers and and they're going to ****er.
01:04:21
I'm gonna have my dynasty turn in rank.
01:04:24
Those will be out before the draft and post draft.
01:04:27
I'll go through every team, see what their fantasy I look will be for the 2020.
01:04:33
Excellent.
01:04:34
Excellent.
01:04:35
Houston, we want.
01:04:36
Thank you.
01:04:37
so much for coming in today.
01:04:38
So much for being the first time of parents on here.
01:04:40
We will definitely beginning on getting you on the show more, more, especially with the off season being the way it is and Constant, we're going to get out.
01:04:48
There gonna be a lot of dynasty moves here that we're gonna be getting made, uh, made after, especially after the draft, because we'll have a bare concrete idea of the value of these guys where they're going to go, and then I'll give everybody else a better concrete idea when the rookie jobs come up where they want to be able to take these guys just so everybody is clear, we're gonna be back again.
01:05:07
Of course, next week we got one show a week every Friday.
01:05:09
We're gonna be back next week talking about the potential fancy value for running backs.
01:05:13
We're gonna be on the phone next week.
01:05:15
Our special guest is going to be Anthony, sir.
01:05:17
Vino as any savino from fantasy prose, one of the top PCR ranking guys on their last year finished effectively 15th overall.
01:05:25
So he's gonna bless this show with his presence.
01:05:28
We cannot wait for that.
01:05:29
You can always find this show on Twitter at M D S f f show on Facebook at M D F F show.
01:05:35
Make sure you're checking us out on belly up.
01:05:37
Fantasy sports dot com We can find all the scoring leader rankings of consisting rankings that I am working on will be out on that website soon.
01:05:44
Makes you guys called the MD Nation Hotline 6093622480 Get your comment.
01:05:50
Your rant, your question, whatever it may be.
01:05:52
Get it out, get it off your chest.
01:05:54
Get a chance to be on the show and we'll have it on on next.
01:05:57
One assumes you leave a call.
01:05:58
A sense to leave a voice mail there for you guys.
01:06:00
We'll be taking off real, so make sure you come on and follow this podcast on any one of your favorite podcast. APS.
01:06:06
And, of course, every show there in the off season is being a live video stream on YouTube and the singing football show subscribe SportsCastr at M D.
01:06:17
F F.
01:06:18
Belly up us and and you can also find us on Facebook.
01:06:21
As I said at and the FF show.
01:06:23
We got that live going there as well.
01:06:26
I hope you guys all enjoy the show.
01:06:27
We'll be seeing you again really soon.
01:06:29
Next week.
01:06:30
And everyone stay safe, Stay healthy and take care.
01:06:48
Thank you for listening to the MDS fantasy football show.

Potential Fantasy Value: QBs and TEs

71 Views
Belly Up Sports' MD's Fantasy Football Show @Bellyupmdffshow

Transcript hideup

00:00:00
so we're very excited to be able to bring that to you guys.
00:00:02
One of the new things going on with the show before we go ahead and get into the content that we want to talk to you guys about is the new MD Nation Hotline is actually where the guest is going to be calling in today.
00:00:12
6093622480 You can call that number.
00:00:17
Leave your fantasy comment, leave your fantasy question and even go on a rant.
00:00:23
If you want to get something off your chest and get on the show at the last part of each episode, when we have ah, call or call in and leave a comment question or go on a possible rant.
00:00:34
Whatever you gotta do, get off your chest.
00:00:35
We will put that at the end of the show and respond to it.
00:00:39
It was one of the easy ways for you guys, too.
00:00:41
Be able to actually talk to me on the show.
00:00:44
Get your questions answer to get your comments answered and actually get yourself on the show as well.
00:00:49
And they get the shadows to make sure you leave your name so we can shut you out properly.
00:00:52
And everybody knows who called in as part of the MD nation Curry Andy Nation community.
00:00:57
And it just one of the many ways that we have going on right now for you to be able to interact with the show we still can.
00:01:03
We still can interact on Twitter at M.
00:01:05
D S F F showings.
00:01:06
Look interact on Facebook at M.
00:01:08
D F of Show, and you could still email the show directly.
00:01:11
MDs fantasy football at gmail dot com.
00:01:14
Still, all those ways are accessible, but to get on the show, be part of the show, be part of the segment.
00:01:19
We're hoping that this will take off and that this will replace Ah, the mailbag segment that we usually would do well, see what winds up happening.
00:01:27
But go ahead and call that MD nation hotline 6093622 for a zero.
00:01:34
But now that that's out of the way, we have a few free agency moves that happened this week since the last time that I was able to talk to you guys that we got to go over in this one and a big one.
00:01:43
Of course, the biggest name I would say from fancy standpoint that happened since last Friday would be the signing off Melvin Gordon and Melvin Cory Man.
00:01:52
He signs with the Broncos in this one.
00:01:54
This is just if you're a fantasy football fan and not necessarily a Denver Broncos fan.
00:01:58
This was really the last thing that you wanted to see as far as Melvin Gordon actually signing on with Denver Broncos for for obvious reasons, right? Well, number one Melvin Gordon himself just lost a ton of fantasy value because now he's going to have to be splitting time with Phillip Lindsay.
00:02:12
It also destroys Philip Lindsay's value.
00:02:15
Royce Freeman the expectation, while he is on the roster at the moment, that they very well might just move on from him all together.
00:02:22
That was the big reason why they brought Melvin Gordon.
00:02:24
It was a big reason why they talked about all offseason wanting to bring a running back into parable Phillip Lindsay.
00:02:29
They seemingly have moved on from the Royce chairman Sweet say so Even if he winds up being on the roster, which I don't expect, he's not someone who clearly is in their plans and to be expected because now you have Pat Shurmur being the offensive coordinator.
00:02:41
He's not exactly a Pat Shurmur type off running back, so it doesn't really surprise me all that much that Royce Freeman would not be a guy that they're planning on being in their future.
00:02:51
Now.
00:02:52
What does this mean for Melvin Gordon and for Phillip Lindsay moving for the The idea is, what kind of split are we going to see? This is going to be a first and second down with gold line work in Philippians of being the passing down back is going to that kind of situation or we're going to see a dead on split.
00:03:06
My personal opinion by belief, is that it's going to be a split.
00:03:10
As far as overall touches go, both will be worked in the Russian game.
00:03:13
Both we worked in the passing game here and there.
00:03:16
Now the only question I'm not 100% sure about is whether we're going to see a general 55 45 split, maybe maybe 60 40 split possibly and this, and this would be in favor off Melvin.
00:03:28
Gordon has the bigger name getting paid the bigger amount of money.
00:03:31
It's more likely that he's going to be the guy to be the quote unquote ah starter that we're going to have their m so keeping that in mind, that's what we're kind of sitting there like.
00:03:41
Okay, we're going to have to see exactly, uh, what's going to happen as far as that split goes, but that would probably be the deal.
00:03:49
Now.
00:03:50
Is it just going to be an altar Neri and carry thing snap thing formation thing? Or is this going to be a situation where it's more like a Siri's by Siri's? Bass is kind of like what we saw back in the day, and I'm not that far back in the day with Tevin Coleman and Bonds A. Freeman.
00:04:05
All those years we saw quite a bit of that.
00:04:07
I wouldn't be surprised that wand up being a similar situation that we get to see here.
00:04:12
So I kind of keep that in mind.
00:04:15
Ah, and what will be able to do? There's far as that goes is ah, we'll be able to get a better projection, better idea once these guys get back in camp once he's gotta getto today's meeting.
00:04:24
Start talking the beat writers again.
00:04:25
We plan on doing that like we did a season ago.
00:04:27
Hopefully, we'll be able to do that again.
00:04:29
And if not, then we'll just keep our ears to the grindstone.
00:04:33
You can always falls along on Twitter at MDs FF chauffeurs player news update, notifications.
00:04:38
But that's what we That's what our expectation is as off now, just to kind of go back a little bit.
00:04:44
Melvin Gordon leaving the Chargers.
00:04:46
What does that mean? Look, as of right now, yes, Justin Jackson, Austin, eh? Clear.
00:04:51
The only two players left on the roster.
00:04:53
And, yes, they do seem to like Justin Jackson.
00:04:55
It wouldn't surprise me if they did go in the route of trying to utilize the two of them, but it would.
00:05:02
It would surprise me.
00:05:03
Then add somebody else, whether be through the draft or whether it be through somebody who's available in free agency and kind of look at the Bon se for him because right now there's some guys available who don't have a lot of clear landing spots who could wind up coming in cheap.
00:05:14
I think Freeman is somebody you could get on a one year perfect deal for pretty cheap right now, and it wouldn't really surprise me if they want it going that route.
00:05:21
We know Austin Heckler is not gonna be the guy who's getting, you know, seven targets game with 20 carries.
00:05:27
That's just not going to happen.
00:05:29
I think people are questioning okay, how much is Justin Jackson get? And while he's a nice little talent, I think Justin Jackson's more of a backup running back at the end of day, so we'll see exactly what ableto happen there.
00:05:38
But I would say as of right now, the expectation to me would be if they're going to add somebody, either through free agency or through the draft.
00:05:45
So I'm not gonna get to overly excited about the situation as it stands right now.
00:05:49
Other than knowing that Austin Ecker will have his role and especially in PPR league halfway PPR league, he's going to have Flex to R B two potential because he's going to have his role, his share of the workload, that much is for sure It's for the Chargers side.
00:06:02
Things go.
00:06:04
If you're in Dynasty leagues, I do want to point this out real quick. Phillip, Lindsay.
00:06:08
If you can sell him, I would sell him.
00:06:10
But they signed album according to a two year deal if he takes off there, and I think he will, because he fits that past summer system pretty well because he usually like to have those running backs who are a three down feature back.
00:06:21
So if he's able to fit that system pretty well, I think you will.
00:06:23
You might see him kind of edge out Phillip Lindsay to some degree, not.
00:06:26
I'm not saying that suddenly that he's gonna get thrown by the wayside, because that's not what's going to happen.
00:06:30
But Phil Menzies stock could go down, down, down and down as we get closer of Melvin, Quarter starts picking things up if he plays as good as we know he can, especially if he's able to stay healthy.
00:06:41
So kind of keep that in mind if you can.
00:06:43
As far as that situation goes now, another time, a movie we gotta talk about here would be, Ah, Emmanuel Sanders.
00:06:50
And in Emmanuel Sanders is case.
00:06:52
He goes the signs with saints, his value in it of itself.
00:06:56
I don't think it is going to be crazy high.
00:06:59
But what he does do is he frees up that offense to be a little bit more efficient.
00:07:04
He makes it so Events is can no longer key on just Michael Thomas and Alvin Kamara in the passing game.
00:07:10
Defense is going half through, actually respect that second wide receiver.
00:07:14
The person that does hurt the most, though, is Jared Cook.
00:07:17
Look, he didn't get a lot of targets until the end of the year as it was.
00:07:21
And if you Adam may know Sanders is going to be operating in a very similar territory over that middle of the field of intermediate part of the field that Jared Cook usually operates in, I do think may know Sanders will steal a lot of Jericho cooks work now.
00:07:34
This could be a situation where there are so many good weapons Drew Brees in to go one on ones that this entire offense could be one of being a top five offense and everybody can get theirs as a result.
00:07:45
So that's going to be the question is, do they go a little bit more up tempo? Do they let Drew Brees and what is most likely going to be his last season.
00:07:53
I know they got to your contract extension, but the word is that he was really like on the border of just retiring this year, so wouldn't be surprised me if it wants it being this season.
00:08:01
He just goes ahead and retires anyway.
00:08:03
But the most would be two seasons, and it kind of line it up and let him kind of do his thing.
00:08:08
If they do that, everybody will be able to get theirs.
00:08:10
May know Sanders, including himself, will be a guy who become a wide receiver.
00:08:13
Three in my book.
00:08:14
If that can happen because he's going to seeing as the second Corners, he's not gonna be the guy defense's air keying on so And he's also a very good veteran.
00:08:21
Why receiver? And he's the perfect type of wide receiver for Drew Brees because he's a guy who knows how to run a run.
00:08:27
A lot of routes lives, hiding routes.
00:08:28
Jew Breeze is a master of accuracy when it comes to those timing routes, so ah, there is some potential here.
00:08:34
He's somebody you're going to be able to take late because everyone's gonna know Look, it's gonna be? Thomas is going to tomorrow, Probably still gonna lead the team targets at the end of the day.
00:08:42
So I may know Sanders being the third option on his own team.
00:08:44
There's a pretty good chance we're talking about a guy who's gonna be the double digit rounds, and he's definitely going to outperform that 80 p.
00:08:50
And that's kind of what I first see happening here.
00:08:52
Kind of keep that in mind when you go in your redraft weeks with Emmanuel Sanders.
00:08:56
But the big thing here, Michael Thomas he's gonna be Michael Thomas.
00:08:59
He's gonna have some natural regression just because his target share was so high last season where the main Sanders coming in.
00:09:04
But I'm not worried about Sanders being the factor of why he loses targets.
00:09:08
And also, I would say it's pretty safe to say that Michael Thomas is still going get 140 plus targets this season.
00:09:14
He's Michael Thomas.
00:09:15
He's the number one wide receiver.
00:09:16
He's Macha proof.
00:09:17
He gets his targets no matter what.
00:09:19
He's still gonna be my number one guy, no matter what the scoring format is.
00:09:23
And, of course, Alan Kamara's still two dynamic where he's not gonna lose that many targets, either.
00:09:27
So I think there's just I think there's an option here where we could see the Saints maybe throw the ball a little bit more in general, where I don't think I may know Sanders coming in is actually going to steal a ton of targets away from the other players.
00:09:39
With the exception of Jared Cook, he's gonna be the guy that if I'm drafting, I'm drafting as a flier very, very late and drafts because it's going to be a huge question mark as far as what his role, what his volume is really going to be in all of this now.
00:09:51
So that's That's the kind of one we're gonna kind of workout throughout the offseason, especially get more into projections.
00:09:56
And I'm weighing those out now and doing the variables and algorithms and stuff of that very soon.
00:10:01
But that's kind of what we're looking at.
00:10:03
As far as you may know, Sanders goes next move.
00:10:05
The next big move that we want to talk about today is Robbie Anderson and with Robbie Anderson situation here.
00:10:12
He signs the Carolina Panthers and that has big.
00:10:15
If it has implications.
00:10:17
Mostly negative.
00:10:18
Put it for a lot of different purposes, right? Because first of all, okay, he leaves the Jets, stay signed.
00:10:23
Saw Pyramid to replace him.
00:10:25
That's fine, James.
00:10:26
And Crowder's the only wide receiver you wanna own.
00:10:29
There he's the only wide receiver, especially the Adam Gates offense was actually gonna get targets on a consistent basis from week to week.
00:10:34
So, James crowd, somebody's gonna go late.
00:10:36
He's gonna have nice, consistent volume for you there.
00:10:39
And that's so you can kind of pay attention to.
00:10:40
And that, I think, was gonna kind of be the case.
00:10:42
Whether Robbie Anderson want up staying or not now robbing issue on the Carolina Panthers.
00:10:47
The negative aspect of this is that I think this could really kill Curtis Samuels value.
00:10:53
You had to kind of look at it like this.
00:10:54
Joe Bree's gonna come in, and this indicates to me he's going to run his predominant three receiver set offense that he likes to be able to.
00:11:02
D'oh! That's that's number one.
00:11:04
So then when you fat repair that up, okay, you're gonna be a little bit more of a open offense and you were a season to go where it's pretty much We got deejay more.
00:11:11
We have Christian McCaffrey and then maybe once every two weeks, we work Curtis Daniel into that rotation, which was kind of how it was going for majority of that season.
00:11:20
You're gonna be a little bit more open in that sense.
00:11:22
Well, Krista McCaffrey get 100 catches again this year? Probably not.
00:11:27
Uh, not that is going too far off 70 80.
00:11:29
I think that's definitely stolen. The plausibility.
00:11:31
So we're not looking a huge drop off here when it comes to when it comes to that by any means, that's not what we're saying.
00:11:37
But what I am going to say is that with D. J.
00:11:40
Moore will still be the number one target here.
00:11:41
He's still going to be the guy that you want to own in the Carolina receiving corps.
00:11:45
At the end of the day, he's gonna run those underneath ground.
00:11:47
He's gonna run the route that Teddy Bridgewater is used to being able to throw and used to being able to do.
00:11:53
The real question mark is how open? How much are they gonna ask Teddy Bridgewater to throw the ball? And while we solve Definitely a capable of starting NFL caliber quarterback last season.
00:12:03
Is he going to be? The guys will come in and just Brandt wide open if he can.
00:12:07
Then all of a sudden deejay more Robbie Anderson and even to a lesser degree and sometimes in flex situations, Curtis Daniel are all gonna be able to have value on top of, you know, Christian Catherine being in the morning running back in fantasy football.
00:12:18
I don't care who you talk to, so that's gonna be the real question.
00:12:22
Mark, are you going to be allowed to sling it around and are you going to sling it around? Because now we do.
00:12:27
Dittemore Robbie Anderson, Corner Sam.
00:12:28
You're talking about three guys who could get deep on a consistent basis, But you're paired with a quarterback who doesn't necessarily throw the deep ball that often.
00:12:36
So that that's gonna be the question.
00:12:38
Does he adapt to stay where you are, get more aggressive now that he's going to be the most likely the starting quarterback? I think that's more of the question mark that everyone's gonna have toe wait and see on.
00:12:49
But here's what I'll say the end of day.
00:12:51
Joe Brady is a very good offensive mind.
00:12:53
They're gonna have a wide open offense and I really like the weapons that they have around them.
00:12:57
Robbie Anderson is still gonna be that guy who's gonna be able to come in and just win you a week out of nowhere.
00:13:02
But you gonna probably more in the inconsistent side.
00:13:04
You're probably talking about more of a wide receiver, three ****s type of guy.
00:13:07
And I think Curtis Angle for now, we have to consider him a wide receiver.
00:13:10
Four.
00:13:11
And so we start to see the targets and the offense itself get a little bit more up Temple get a little more wide open.
00:13:15
But DJ more is still a solid wide receiver to To me, Uh, you showed me a lot last year.
00:13:21
He improved quite a bit in his route running.
00:13:22
He just knows how to get separation, knows how to get open.
00:13:25
They move him all around the field.
00:13:26
There's a lot of things to like about D Jame, or especially in this job for the offense.
00:13:30
He fits that mold of this scheme perfectly, so they're gonna utilize him all over the field.
00:13:34
He's the guy that from week to week, I would expect is going to get the majority of the share and because he does line up all over the field, he's not.
00:13:40
Somebody has taken away automatically by a shutdown corner on the other teams.
00:13:45
That's kind of what I like to see here.
00:13:47
That's kind of my take on what that's going to, how it's gonna affect everybody there.
00:13:50
I'm not necessary situation I wanted to see.
00:13:53
I want to see Robbie Anderson go to a good offer sense that he could also been the number one.
00:13:57
And honestly, after he got traded after DeAndre Hawkins was traded to the Arizona Cardinals, I really thought the Houston Texans made a lot of sense.
00:14:05
They need another wide receiver.
00:14:06
Get another deep threat special Fuller, who gets her all time.
00:14:09
You can keep ah, weapon who can still take the top off of the defense.
00:14:13
And I knew at this point because was later on a free agency, he wasn't gonna command Aton of money.
00:14:18
I don't really understand why the text, especially since the only ones of getting a two year, $20 million years we're talking about $10 million a year for next two years.
00:14:24
I don't really understand why the Texans didn't go after him other than Bill O'Brien once again, is proving more and more as each day that he's more, more of an idiot when it comes to general managing.
00:14:34
So that's kind of what we're looking at there.
00:14:36
I was surprised. I was hoping I was going to his destination.
00:14:38
Caroline, for famously purposes, really kind of makes it a pain, but for the team wise, it could make this offense one.
00:14:44
The more dynamic offenses.
00:14:46
Ah, this upcoming season, depending and it's all gonna depend upon.
00:14:49
How good is Teddy Bridgewater are just a few honorable mentions I want to get through, but we don't actually go into great detail about.
00:14:58
And that would be Peyton Barber signing with Washington Kins.
00:15:01
The quick snaps is, there is.
00:15:03
I don't know what the Redskins are doing.
00:15:04
I don't know why they brought in paper Barber.
00:15:06
I don't know why they actually paid Peyton Barber a decent amount of money to bring him into stuff.
00:15:10
Agent Peterson, on the roster, who presumably would be doing the same thing picking Barbara would and has been doing it pretty well effectively.
00:15:16
And I don't know why you would bring in Peyton Barber.
00:15:19
Who does it even not as good as Adrian Peterson.
00:15:21
At the age of 35 you're paying Agent Peterson last less.
00:15:24
It doesn't make any sense.
00:15:26
But pain Barber, Agent Peters and various guys JD McKissick and Bryce Love, who we haven't even seen yet are all gonna be jumbled in that backfield.
00:15:35
Nobody's gonna know who's gonna be the guy.
00:15:37
And there may not be Ah, guy.
00:15:39
And that's what it's kind of shaping up to be.
00:15:41
So we're not sure what's going on there.
00:15:42
Big big synopsis would just be stay away from the Washington Kins rushing attack by by any means necessary because the fact that they signed Peyton Barber that too you have dairies, guys is able to come back healthy.
00:15:54
It doesn't sound like they plan on giving him a ton of Carrie's because you're gonna have to You're gonna have to make the contact you just gave Barber worth it.
00:16:02
Right? So that's gonna be the key situation there as far as a flip side of that Tampa Bay.
00:16:07
Yes, Ronald Jones, the last man left standing as of right now, but guaranteed whether it's through free agency.
00:16:14
Whether it's through the draft, Tampa Bay is going to be adding another running back.
00:16:17
So I would worst, you know, abstaining from giving any kind of real fantasy advice as faras.
00:16:23
That regard goes until we see what move they make next includes and dynasty not going.
00:16:28
Go out and trade for him if you can trade him away for a higher price tag, and you normally would have gotten from Ronald Jones because of the situation right now, I would do that in a heartbeat because I don't believe around Jones, actually good NFL running back.
00:16:40
But as it stands right now, I'm not overly excited about his fame.
00:16:44
Asi prospects.
00:16:46
Another quick I to mention Dion Lewis will be the backup to say Kwame Barclay for the Giants.
00:16:50
Something kind of keep in mind there.
00:16:52
Travis Benjamin Signs of 40 Niners.
00:16:54
Ah, I don't think there's much there for that one.
00:16:56
And Devon Funches signs with the Green Bay Packers.
00:16:59
Or or at least it is expected to.
00:17:00
I don't know that was actually made official yet, but then fund just going the Packers a little bit interesting However, at this point knowing what Devon Funches has after being her and not playing much really last two years now, I don't know what to really expect out of this guy.
00:17:14
So while in name, while in theory having a legitimate second wide receiver Davante Adams on the Green Bay Packers desperately need, I don't know if that punches really that guy and we know we can't.
00:17:25
You can't take off the top of the defense.
00:17:27
I think you're really gonna be there more to compete with scant Ling.
00:17:31
Compete with ST Brown for that second wide receiver spot.
00:17:35
So I'm I don't really I don't really think there's much fantasy value here to be had.
00:17:39
And frankly, I don't think this is the move the Packers need to make to get that legitimate second target for across the way from Davante Adams for Aaron Rodgers.
00:17:48
So the remains have you seen? This is all they wind up doing that we'll have.
00:17:51
We'll have a better idea.
00:17:52
We'll have ah more of a fantasy ****ysis for you, um, or hardcore one.
00:17:56
But as it stands right now, this is pretty much a nothing moved to me.
00:18:00
It doesn't move the needle at all for me in any kind of way doesn't effective on, say, Adams.
00:18:04
And it doesn't amplify Aaron Rodgers, in my opinion, at this moment.
00:18:08
So before we get into it right here, I'm going to give you the my bookie live read for you guys.
00:18:13
And even though there's no sports going on right now with my book, you can bet on almost anything, including Democratic nomination, the presidential election, even the name of the next pope joined now and start winning big today.
00:18:25
Visit my bookie dot a G and use promo code belly up for a 50% deposit bonus.
00:18:31
That's promo code belly that all right, Andy Nation and we are back here with our very special guest today to help us break down the quarterbacks and tight ends.
00:18:46
We're gonna talk about going into this draft class now.
00:18:48
If you weren't with us last year, what we do do we won't We don't go through every single player because that would take forever.
00:18:52
But what we d'oh as we go through a handful of guys that we know you're going to be hearing about throughout the draft process throughout.
00:18:59
Ah, what kind of fancy value and dynasty value that you're going to be getting throughout this entire thing and what guys you need to really know about in depth.
00:19:08
And that's why we do.
00:19:09
These shows kind of highlight these players, and I couldn't think of anybody better to bring on here than the belly of fantasy sports dot com Top Dynasty Writer Mr Houston Wenzel.
00:19:19
You confined him on Twitter at F See Houston W.
00:19:23
Houston.
00:19:24
How are you doing today, Dan? Are you excellent? Excellent.
00:19:28
One. Thank you for coming onto the show.
00:19:30
Is your first time on here? And hopefully we'll have you on throughout the season for everybody out there, especially on the dynasty purposes.
00:19:35
And make sure they're checking out your articles on belly up fantasy sports dot com whenever possible.
00:19:41
And I brought you in here today.
00:19:42
Of course, we'll talk about some quarterbacks to top it off, and I selfishly want to talk about my first quarterback.
00:19:49
There's number one on my board to attack Livilla.
00:19:51
Tell me your thoughts on some of your thoughts on him for me, will you? So when you first talk, you have to bring up Cherie of injury.
00:20:04
Fortunately, However, it's been video recently.
00:20:11
What work skills and he looked like be the top quarterback and I would agree.
00:20:19
Quiet.
00:20:20
Um, however, we probably will be Joe Burrow at 101 that make me mad at all, because think Theo may land and my it would be a better spot for him.
00:20:35
He may be able to sit for a year, which we saw with great but Brady.
00:20:41
There's that for a year learned from in benefit.
00:20:48
I agree that of all of the quarterbacks that are coming in, I do think that if he was the one who got to sit, it would definitely be the most beneficial for just to make sure he's fully recovered from that injury.
00:20:59
But reason? One of the reasons why he's my number one guys, I think the lobular making too much of that hip injury right now.
00:21:04
Coming into it, he has been cleared by doctors to ramp up his football activity.
00:21:10
He is expected to be healthy to take the field coming into training camp day one now because he's been a little banged up that I was career because he really missed half of this year.
00:21:19
I do agree with you.
00:21:20
He is somebody who I do believe if he could sit for a year, he would.
00:21:23
And the Dolphins, as to you said, Or even if it wanted being the Chargers, they surprisingly traded up to move into that spot.
00:21:30
Ah, you're talking about Two teams there with Ryan Fitzpatrick and in charge of the Tyrod Taylor are set up to allow him to sit for a year online with Cincinnati Bengals.
00:21:39
It would make some sense why they wouldn't be a possibly wanna go Joe Burrow in that instance, because they wouldn't necessarily have to.
00:21:45
But to me, he is the one generational quarterback in this draft class.
00:21:50
He's the guy who completely turn the franchise around.
00:21:53
There's nothing he can't do. He can.
00:21:55
He can improvise.
00:21:56
He can. He has a great arm.
00:21:58
He conflict it.
00:21:59
The one thing I love about him is being a lefty who can kind of just looking.
00:22:01
He reminds you so much of Steve Young.
00:22:04
That's why I keep harping on this.
00:22:05
Why is my number one guy? Because I'd compare him to a future Hall of Famer, quite frankly, and he's mobile and can do really a little bit of everything.
00:22:12
If he were the one up on the Dolphins, do you think he could wind up having value Year one taking over halfway through the season? Do you think it's really a city situation where you need to wait until year, too? And then what kind of fantasy values you gonna have after that? I do think if you went to the Dolphins, the plan would be to him Year one.
00:22:35
But as we know it right after key interception trouble, it wouldn't be hard for you.
00:22:42
Dolphins eight to a urine and I think wouldn't be the way they wanted to go.
00:22:50
But it and I think would have relatives in the fantasy game you'd be surrounded by wide receivers.
00:22:57
Devante part.
00:22:59
I'm really high on President William and what he showed last going down with injury.
00:23:04
Uh, the emergence of Michael, I would have the weapons, and I do think they bring, um, more weapons.
00:23:13
I'm in this draft class parent with the dollar.
00:23:17
Defense is getting better.
00:23:18
They should be able to play more.
00:23:20
Yeah, 7 20 So if you look called in the play and have to show up, I think provide the numbers were owners.
00:23:30
I agree that you think he's somebody who might want of being a streaming option, especially when you have the Monte Parker impressed Williams, Like you said, and a Chan Gailey system, they'll forget.
00:23:38
It's a It's a running gun type of system.
00:23:40
So they do like the third around.
00:23:41
They do like to open it up a little bit.
00:23:43
So there is a possibility there if he gets a chance.
00:23:44
A Ryan Fitzpatrick but moving along because we got a lot of guys we do want to talk about and we got We have to talk about Joe Borough, of course. Next.
00:23:51
Ah, probably most NFL ready quarterback.
00:23:54
But what's your early takes here? Just watching the tape on Joe Burrow.
00:24:00
I coming up there.
00:24:04
Great way Heisman Trophy winner You.
00:24:12
I watched him play in the world.
00:24:14
It and when he first.
00:24:16
But it sounds in the first half.
00:24:19
Three.
00:24:20
Yes, and greatest Evers L just.
00:24:23
And next year Jamaar Chase.
00:24:26
Um, I think I'd be stupid for the Bangles, not to pick Joe Burrow at the 101 I don't even know how the fans would react if they I did not do But if Joe Borough Dough bro quarterback back 10 half vanity numbers this year won't have any fission, I don't believe, though, land on keeping Andy Dalton much longer called the Bears that called other Maybe take them off.
00:24:52
Take him in their hand.
00:24:55
Um, I just traded for Tyler Boyd and one of my league because he got throw it to someone big bag.
00:25:04
Think they'll look to bring in more often the talents of Job World to come Um Fleck Dynasty Rookie draft.
00:25:16
Thank you for Joe Burrow at the 101 I just think that you will have a long career, that he can produce the numbers.
00:25:25
Yeah.
00:25:26
I mean, there's nothing really not to like about that guy coming in.
00:25:29
And the biggest thing for me right now with a lot of these rookies is situation, situation, situation where they're gonna wind up.
00:25:36
And with Joe Paro, we kind of have, You know, we have a pretty good idea that he's going to wind up on the Cincinnati Bangles and a couple of things that come with that are you have Zac Taylor, who runs the Steve McVeigh type of offense, and we're storming, storming back type of offense.
00:25:47
Excuse me, and one of the things with that is they have the perfect weapons to run that offense I thought they did.
00:25:53
A year ago, the problem was a J.
00:25:54
Green got hurt.
00:25:55
But you're going into this season, presumably with a healthy Tyler Boyd healthy A J.
00:26:00
Green and a possibly healthy John Ross, all of whom fit that system perfectly.
00:26:04
Don't forget about Joe Mixon if they can figure out anything along that offense of line to give him a little bit more protection.
00:26:11
Even as a rookie, I really could see this guy of being having a stream values faras redraft, maybe even a guy that you wouldn't say.
00:26:17
Hey, you know what? I don't care.
00:26:18
He's a rookie because the offense, because the weapons he has around him, I could see taking him as your late, late, late quarterback in the 16th round.
00:26:25
And that's just talking about redraft leaks.
00:26:27
I do think of all the quarterbacks, Joe Borough might actually have the most value going into 2020 because the situation he's gonna fall into its a better situation.
00:26:35
I think most people realize going into Cincinnati Bengals and as far as dynasty to your point.
00:26:41
Yeah.
00:26:42
I mean, look, him and two are definitely gonna have to be the top two quarterbacks you're going after for dynasty purposes and and in both the situations, the one thing he does have over to is that he has a better injury.
00:26:51
History, too, has been has been producing at a higher level for longer causes.
00:26:56
That's my big thing on Joe Burrow, and that's why I sold to a con over him.
00:26:59
A little bit of you know, you came out of nowhere in one year, and it was kind of a perfect situation. Ellis.
00:27:04
You always have athletes, but Joe Bray is a great offense of mine.
00:27:07
So the question's gonna be like, Okay, How much was Joe Borough? How much was this Joe Brady? I do think it's a question mark there, but he's definitely healthier on a consistent basis than to a is, and therefore we're talking about dynasty purposes.
00:27:18
If you're looking for that next quarterback who's gonna last you 10 15 years? Ah, that the safer bet might be Joe Burrow.
00:27:24
And he's not a bad situation where he's wanting up at.
00:27:31
I'll agree on one thing with the Bengals.
00:27:34
Williams will offense of tackle that in last year's draft and they to dress problem offense.
00:27:43
Why, oh, mix and had a great 2009.
00:27:47
He'll be able to take some of this off, bro.
00:27:49
Shoulders come into the league and that it's only gonna help him. He doesn't.
00:27:54
I don't think pressure on him are greatly right out of the gun, but he will find a stride and produced fantasy points for owners.
00:28:04
And the thing is, don't have to pay a premium price for him and redraft league, he's probably round quarterback.
00:28:17
We're not gonna be very sure on where they in year one.
00:28:22
Yeah, totally agree.
00:28:23
Then I say we talk about he has a lot of hit or miss ****ysis.
00:28:27
I personally like him a lot, especially if you were to wind up with, say, New England Patriots, which I think might be a big reason why they're not looking to sign different quarterbacks.
00:28:35
I think they might have this guy in their sights, uh, possibly not in the first round, maybe in the second round, But that guy would be Jake from and one of the big things I love about Jake from coming out is how much he can throw it around, how polished he is.
00:28:49
Yes, a lot of people to make a big thing about his arm.
00:28:51
But on tape, I consistently see this guy be able to throw with accuracy and with velocity outside the numbers.
00:28:58
And to me, being able to do that 15 20 yards down the field is more impressive and more indicative of your NFL arm strength and just being able to throw it a mile down the middle of field.
00:29:08
What's your take here on Jake from there? Houston? Yeah.
00:29:13
Um, I agree with everything.
00:29:15
Just that looking from death plea at Georgia didn't have the grades.
00:29:22
However deeper in the from state makes me more about what? This kid can actually bring relief.
00:29:27
I believe he has.
00:29:29
But when you watch him play because he doesn't have an actor arm with great ball, please.
00:29:36
Um, one thing I know about we'll record I George for the highest completion percentage.
00:29:44
I was the coach and wanted a quarterback.
00:29:45
I'd want a guy that can complete passes.
00:29:47
It doesn't help when you're throwing the ball around.
00:29:49
Wider speakers aren't catching it.
00:29:52
Uh, Bram is one of the more one of the forest cuties in this draft.
00:29:57
The natural ability to reduce.
00:30:01
Yeah, I totally agree with that.
00:30:02
That's why I was my biggest takeaway as well.
00:30:04
I mean, outside of a two and and Joe Borough, as their talent level goes, he is to me the most NFL ready He is a guy at worst, in my opinion, is going to be a creep back up.
00:30:15
But I think this is Guy Go.
00:30:16
Who's going to be an NFL starter now? Does he fit every cyst? Um, I don't know that he does.
00:30:21
I do think he needs to be in a more of a spread of mouth thinking, dunk type of system for him to really be able to sell, especially to talk about from a fantasy level.
00:30:28
But this is really a guy that I am big on and seemingly bigger than most on, especially, and I like to point The point you just brought up about Georgia is the point that I usually try to make.
00:30:38
In his case, this was not a guy who had a ton of weapons around him, especially last season, and people forget that they were very injured, especially up front against that offense of line here.
00:30:47
A lot of pressure in his face, all season long and wide receivers, to your point, who are consistently dropping the football Jake from is definitely somebody who's goingto have, I think, more dynasty value than redraft values, not something I'm looking.
00:30:59
The vessel we start this year, unless it is the perfect situation.
00:31:02
Like it was like maybe it was.
00:31:03
If it is New England, maybe he would have a chance in that situation that have some redraft availability.
00:31:08
But this is the guy who you can take in a dinosaur leak stashing for a year, See how we'll see what kind of situation he winds up in.
00:31:14
But I do think this guy in the long run is going to pay off and be a starter for some years to come.
00:31:19
Kind of pick it up here a little bit.
00:31:20
We're gonna go with Justin Herbert coming up next.
00:31:23
Well, let me hear your take on Doesn't her? Because I have a pretty ah ah, pretty controversial take on him my myself.
00:31:33
I'm actually Herbert.
00:31:37
Well, great.
00:31:40
And charters.
00:31:42
I think he does beat out Tyrod Taylor and stick for the starting job.
00:31:47
I think the Chargers have wanted really quarterback land.
00:31:51
Be joining Alan.
00:31:53
Great touchdown target.
00:31:55
Mike Williams.
00:31:57
Get a tag hunter Henry even back out the back bill in Austin.
00:32:01
Meckler over.
00:32:04
As I saw the Rose Bowl on where people were watching, he thought he'd be known for his arm Actually run in that people don't see in Herbert's game.
00:32:18
What like, um, he's very athletic, the box pocket and my only concern.
00:32:28
Chargers Don't pick him.
00:32:29
He may drop a little bit.
00:32:30
There might not be a need for a quarterback, but if he lands of the Chargers, I think you could be a really good fantasy quarterback here. One.
00:32:39
Now see? Yes.
00:32:40
Ah, lot of people agree with what you're saying right there.
00:32:44
So I acknowledge that here's here's what I will say. What doesn't Herbert.
00:32:47
Yes, he is a dual threat quarterback.
00:32:50
He could move around quite a bit.
00:32:52
I think just in her personal is going to be the biggest bust of the 2020 draft season and I I groove you.
00:32:58
I think there's a decent chance that he winds up playing with the Chargers because I think today Dolphins are pick ahead and they also have more ammunition to move up if their plan is to move up and draft to a tackle, a boa.
00:33:08
So I do think there's a better chance of Justin Herbert winds up on the charges, and I think it would be a big, big mistake.
00:33:13
My biggest things we just heard was that he did not improve, in my opinion at all in his three years in college is the guy who came in he can of those hyped as anybody else, and he showed out well early on, but he never really improved after that.
00:33:25
This is a guy who everyone keeps saying he has a big arm is big Rocket up yet he can throw it a mile down the middle of the field, and that's perfectly fine with me.
00:33:33
Except for this is a guy who's consistently inaccurate.
00:33:36
When asked, throw outside the numbers 15 to 25 yards down the field.
00:33:39
From from the film that I've seen, I didn't play her profile spotlight on him, Uh, you know, like a month ago or so now on and breaking that kind of downward like, yeah, he could put some velocity behind it, but it was consistently low.
00:33:52
It was consistency short, especially when to throw outside the numbers and actually make NFL throws.
00:33:58
And on top of it, I really question of this guy can actually read defense's all that.
00:34:02
Well, you're coming from the Oregon system.
00:34:03
It's set up for easy read.
00:34:06
It's set up for that one route that first look to be open, and if it's not, you can dump it off.
00:34:11
Or if you're in Herbert's case because you are mobile, you can kind of take off and run.
00:34:15
I didn't see a lot of improvement.
00:34:17
That's why I think it would be my biggest bust.
00:34:18
I get a lot of heat for that, and I don't care because I'm sticking to my guns on this one.
00:34:22
I There's not a lot of Justin Herbert that I see, especially when it comes to consistency and technique, and I don't have a big great on quarterbacks who come into coming from college who aren't that accurate, and he's not that accurate.
00:34:33
It's why I've never been a big fan of Josh Allen.
00:34:36
I continue to be knocked down.
00:34:37
A fan of Josh Allen for that reason.
00:34:39
Because typically, quarterbacks who do not improve their accuracy and college not improve their actually.
00:34:42
Then in the NFL, do you wantto rebuttal anything I just said there? No, I mean turn that is concerning.
00:34:53
The NFL can't buildable Eicher and give your wider Stever first of all your offense put up anything in the fancy production.
00:35:04
Yeah, that's kind of what it boils down to for me, but I know I'm kind of in the minority on that one, which is perfectly fine.
00:35:10
Next I want to talk about is Jalen hurts.
00:35:12
This is probably the first quarter after talking about that.
00:35:14
Ah, well, that's not sure Jake from probably won't go in the first round either.
00:35:17
But one of the quarterbacks is probably go after the first round.
00:35:20
Maybe has a giant a chance to go with late first if somebody were to trade back in.
00:35:23
We've seen that over the past couple of years.
00:35:26
Give me your take for ah, jail on her stare.
00:35:30
Well, much of people don't like jail in her I fantasy producing quarterbacks.
00:35:39
Your glands in the right situation has been kind of quiet.
00:35:44
Among out look, a mock draft and everything is names.
00:35:49
Very quiet.
00:35:50
But if I can remember correctly, wasn't Lamar Jackson very quiet? Were many NFL teams as far as being a quarterback, I was that some degree? Yeah, and the thing teams kept quiet about Lamar Jackson because they wanted, well, owner.
00:36:09
You just know how to win.
00:36:10
Finished with record as a starter, leadership eyes acting Yeah, away from Alabama could take over for him and then continue to come out and lead a team to win when he called upon.
00:36:28
In the most important, one thing about jail and hurt is he has leg, just like Lamar Jackson quarterback.
00:36:38
Going for the lead changes every year.
00:36:41
Um, as much as they used to be a passing league last year, I'm pretty sure the top pick didn't make the playoffs.
00:36:49
Uh, running team didn't make the playoffs.
00:36:53
Something that you want to hear of.
00:36:54
Just a few years ago back I heard dual threat ability.
00:37:00
Um, as we know with, like, Lamar Jackson, the Russian staff can add up, and that's really good for Stan.
00:37:07
See, production.
00:37:08
One week.
00:37:09
Burt has, uh oh man.
00:37:15
And I might be a reason why you dropped down draft board, but he just needs to get well proven.
00:37:22
That is the Eddie enter fully? Yeah.
00:37:27
Look, the player comparison I have for Jill and Hearst is Tyrod Taylor.
00:37:32
I think he's kind of a similar career path because what we could see from him, the guys that come in, you're not gonna start right away.
00:37:38
I don't think no matter who drafts him, frankly, but he can come in.
00:37:41
He has that dual threat ability.
00:37:44
He maybe he, at some point in his career, will get opportunity to shine.
00:37:47
And to your point, from a fantasy perspective, he's gonna probably produces gonna probably be a streamer during that time period if he gets the start for more than you know, half a season gets to be the starter for another full year after that.
00:37:58
Kind of like how tire I did.
00:37:59
It could be somebody people are looking at as a quarterback.
00:38:02
You could take late.
00:38:03
You could maybe finish inside the top 12.
00:38:04
I don't deny any of that.
00:38:05
He has a lot of good fantasy aspects to his game, but dealing hers is one of these guys.
00:38:11
He kind of makes me laugh in the ****ysis around it because there's seemingly a lot of people who want to give him Ah lot of credit for making this big improvement jump in Oklahoma.
00:38:21
And all I keep saying is Oklahoma runs a very different offense.
00:38:24
Yes, of course, he was going to have a big production jump.
00:38:26
That's what they do in Oklahoma.
00:38:28
I I don't see anything different from his game film from Alabama.
00:38:33
Oklahoma spars.
00:38:34
His actual technique is consistency, his accuracy.
00:38:36
I don't see any of that as an improvement.
00:38:38
He's always been a guy who could make a play that you don't expect him to be able to make.
00:38:41
He's always been a guy who has a good arm.
00:38:43
You get to field the ball down the field.
00:38:45
But he's also always been a guy who has been inconsistent.
00:38:48
I think he's going to struggle with interceptions throughout his career unless he learns how to be a veteran learned how to play it safe because the start later in his career was kind of like comparing the Tyrod Taylor in that sense.
00:38:58
But there were early on.
00:39:00
There's not so much anymore, but early on in this process there was talk about Jalen hers, maybe sneaking his way into the first round.
00:39:06
There's still something that creates kind of cooled off more of a second round, and I was just sitting there laughing my ass off because I'm just like he hasn't improved.
00:39:13
I just love how, every single year these guys get swept up in these college producing numbers and you look at Oklahoma.
00:39:18
They don't play anybody who has a defense until the playoffs later on.
00:39:22
And then they get beat by everybody who actually can play them kind of physicality.
00:39:25
And don't just let their four wide air raid system just open up a defense and running on dhe throw all over him through Oklahoma.
00:39:32
They're going to have numbers in that system.
00:39:34
There's a lot of other things that he did.
00:39:35
I'm not trying to come off as I'm dumping on.
00:39:37
Jalen Hurts come not I do like the guy quite a bit, but it just kind of makes you left.
00:39:41
All of a sudden, he's going to be this highly touted prospect guy coming out when he just had, so you didn't actually show any improvement when you actually watched the film? The actual technique and throwing the football.
00:39:51
He just had a better offense, is going to produce better numbers.
00:39:54
And all of a sudden, if you're a quarterback out of Oklahoma, suddenly you're going to be talked about as a first rounder.
00:39:59
I'm now officer in the jury's out on Baker. Mayfield.
00:40:02
Why was he a number one pick to me? The jury should be out.
00:40:04
It doesn't seem like it is as much about jury should be out on collar, Murray, because this is a guy who impressed me.
00:40:09
Ah, lot his rookie season, either.
00:40:11
So at some point, these offenses need to be taken into consideration.
00:40:15
But I think hers somebody could have some value down the road.
00:40:18
But I just the hype on him, I thought just got a little bit out of control.
00:40:21
I don't know if you want a rebuttal any of that.
00:40:26
I would agree, Uh, I don't think the year one starter, I think year, whether it be good or maybe that dwindled out.
00:40:38
I'm you don't need huh? Or point.
00:40:47
I mean, have a pretty prolific off.
00:40:50
They play many good defensive and when you do have my top wide receiver in this draft class, be the land of it makes life a little bit easier.
00:41:01
Yeah, that's a great point as well that I didn't even ah, bring up When you have a top talent.
00:41:06
Why receiver like that? That's going to talk about here.
00:41:09
Jordan love.
00:41:10
Now with this guy.
00:41:11
He's probably one of the more height about prospects, right? Probably won them. Or boomer bus guys.
00:41:16
He could be a franchise guy or he could be a guy was out of the league in a few years.
00:41:19
What's what's your take on Jordan Levin? What you've seen out of him so far.
00:41:24
You know, uh, he is right around in any Marked and I don't really understand.
00:41:33
The height didn't have enough where he threw for 3507 yards to touch.
00:41:43
Interception numbers are great, but if you look the 19 or any touchdown in interception, I just don't understand.
00:41:53
Don't have that arm strength right? One does every game, and I finally felt when watching double coverage more off Well, all right.
00:42:08
No, I agree with what you're takes away the issues that he has, and that's why I think you know, he is looked at as a boom or bust type of product.
00:42:17
I like Jordan.
00:42:18
Love a lot.
00:42:19
Mike have yacht, would be it ha he has.
00:42:22
He's one of the quarterbacks here who has to wind up in the right situation.
00:42:26
For him to really have a chance.
00:42:27
He has probably, I think, probably the best live arm in this draft class.
00:42:32
Dig up Easton's might be a little bit stronger as far as how far you can stretch up he is.
00:42:35
He has the most zip on his passes at any level of the field.
00:42:39
Of all these quarterbacks, I believe he has a lot of raw talent to him.
00:42:43
He is more mobile than people.
00:42:44
I think realized Ah, but the thing with Jordan loves like I player comped him to a more raw to Shawn Watson, though he kind of throws the ball in a similar way.
00:42:54
In my mind, he's not quite as fast but kind of plays similar style or he'll take off and run and nothing's open down the field.
00:43:01
Ah, he's kind of that mold of quarterback.
00:43:02
He just has a longer way to go as far as his technique and everything is and I totally agree with you.
00:43:07
The double coverage.
00:43:08
He has that gunslinger mentality.
00:43:09
That bread for mentality was like My arm can get anything anywhere, and I'm just gonna YOLO it by a pressure in my face because I believe that even throwing off my back foot, I can still throw it 50 yards on the time.
00:43:19
He does have that mentality that will get him into trouble.
00:43:22
Ah, from time to time, he needs to go in the second round.
00:43:25
I agree. There's no reason why he should be going in the first.
00:43:27
He's he's too much of a project to be going in the first round.
00:43:30
Unless you're sitting there like as a playoff team, where you think your quarterback is only a couple of years away from maybe retiring and let's say, let's say Pittsburgh, for instance.
00:43:39
You know you have to replace Ben Roethlisberger.
00:43:41
Some point you're picking later on the draft, it would have to be a situation like that for him to go in the first round.
00:43:46
I agree with you know, he should be going in the second round.
00:43:48
He's just somebody who's he's either gonna hit and hit big or he's just or he is gonna be one of the bigger bus that we talk about later on who disappeared rather quickly as faras the quarterbacks go Ah, we do need to pick up the pace here a little bit because we still have more tight ends we gotta talk about.
00:44:05
And we got one more quarterback here in Jacob Eastern, uh, Jacob East, and I'm gonna give my thing real quick to me.
00:44:12
He is nothing more than a guy who has a strong arm and everybody was a fall in love because of that.
00:44:17
But as far as being an actual pastors for being actual quarterback goes, I think this is a guy who's just gonna be a backup.
00:44:23
That Bessie reminds me way too much of Ah, Ryan Mallett.
00:44:27
What's your take here on Jacob Eastern? Yeah.
00:44:31
I don't believe you will go in the 1st 2 rounds of the NFL draft My back up, what with very strong arm can up in record between two levels of defenders, something that will make However, I don't.
00:44:49
I think that will be much more than a backup.
00:44:52
And at the back of an NFL, you're not going have any vanity production, right? Exactly.
00:44:59
Like I said, it reminds a lot Ryan Mount, where he might find herself a situation or coaches want to give a chance because he has enough all.
00:45:06
He has an NFL.
00:45:07
We are that that's without a doubt.
00:45:08
But you're gonna fight is inefficient.
00:45:10
And here's gonna keep running in the accuracy issues before we move on into the tight ends.
00:45:15
I want to give you guys the fanatics live.
00:45:17
Read here they are the number one for Can't talk today fan sports apparel, Memory boost or in the world get access to all their available discounts by clicking on the link from the MDC football show from our posts on social media, you can go to Twitter at M.
00:45:31
D S F F show or you can go to Facebook at M.
00:45:34
D F F show and click on the links today to get all of the latest deals.
00:45:39
Now, Next up, we got the tight ends.
00:45:41
Now, this is not a strong tight end classes, especially for we're talking about fancy purposes.
00:45:47
But there are a few tight ends that are gonna be talked about that I do have some kind of sneaky value.
00:45:51
If they were wind a ping in the right situations and number guy.
00:45:54
One guy that we want to talk about you guys today is Cole commit.
00:45:58
So he said, Why don't you give us your take here on a cold comment? What he might've it'll bring to the table so I would agree.
00:46:06
Commits draft.
00:46:10
I wonder where making, but most don't know that he is a little sport athlete at Notre Dame.
00:46:19
He didn't play baseball well, but as we thought that was a 19 focused primarily on football on it, really help them.
00:46:26
Um, command, one of the best tight ends in this league are in this draft, and I think that he has a good shot of ending up in what new coach Ron Rivera.
00:46:40
If that does happen, I do see round a very you cement and Britt at the griddle, and he would produce more.
00:46:49
That ranking against the current pit ends in the league.
00:46:52
I don't know, but I will will have production if he is under Ronald Bear in washing.
00:46:59
I like that a lot.
00:47:00
I like that. Take a lot ending up with Washington.
00:47:02
I hadn't really thought about that as a possible destination, I guess, because I kind of, in my mind think whole command has a chance to go in the first round.
00:47:09
I think he's the only time and chance in the first round.
00:47:11
So I kind of kept thinking about these teams that were in the twenties later on.
00:47:15
That maybe needed tight end.
00:47:16
The composite go.
00:47:17
Washington would be a great fit because your point, he is kind of like a Greg Olsen.
00:47:21
In that sense, I actually my player competition is actually a Heath Miller, Um, for one reason.
00:47:26
One reason on Lee.
00:47:27
Yes, he's all round also like Greg Olsen.
00:47:29
But Cole commit has that natural instincts I believe in when it comes to zone coverages and find the hole in making himself available for for his quarterback to be able to move the chains on a consistent basis, something I kind of saw him consistently I do.
00:47:44
While he does have some ability to go down the field, I was impressed with his 40 what I didn't expect in the runner 47 So I did.
00:47:51
I did take me by surprise.
00:47:52
I thought was gonna be a little bit closer to the four eights.
00:47:54
Mid 475 kind of deal like that.
00:47:56
So the fact he's gonna run for seven show a little bit of speed, Maybe he'll have more of an ability than what I saw consistently on tape as far as them being able to stretch the seem, Uh, but he does can you can do a little everything.
00:48:08
These guys gonna be on the fueled 24 7 because he can block.
00:48:11
You can do all those things.
00:48:12
He's probably a few tight ends that is all around in this draft class, and I like that fit alive.
00:48:17
You want up in Washington? That would be an excellent.
00:48:19
It'd be a great safety player for Dwayne Haskins.
00:48:21
Ah, there aren't have familiarity that brought in all the coaches from Carolina.
00:48:24
Essentially.
00:48:25
So, yeah, I would like that fit a lot for him now.
00:48:27
When it comes to him, though, I think he's the only tight end who truly has.
00:48:32
I went to the old one.
00:48:33
There is one more time and I think might have some re Dr Value this season because you could be on the field a little bit.
00:48:37
Maurin might have a chance to start start possibly Ping on where he winds up at, but we call come out.
00:48:44
I think he's one of you does have some redraft ability.
00:48:46
But when it comes to tight ends in general, a lot of times you can't you can't get these guys and read, Not now.
00:48:51
In the rookie year, you can't get them in re drive because there's not gonna be utilized.
00:48:54
Same way there's a longer learning curve.
00:48:55
Ah, so cold commit.
00:48:57
He is the guy that I'm looking at in dynasty leagues.
00:48:59
I know you're going to feel all the time.
00:49:01
There's a better chance.
00:49:02
You gotta have a longer career than a lot of these guys out there because the way you're built, he doesn't get hurt as much.
00:49:06
So I do like him a lot.
00:49:07
In that sense for Dynasty leaves, you look at that tight end of the future.
00:49:11
I do believe that could be cool.
00:49:12
Calm especially, Yeah, I like that call a lot if he goes in and, ah, Washington the next day.
00:49:17
We want to talk about here, and this is for me more so because you're going to hear a lot about him because he's Randy Moss is son Fattest mosque.
00:49:24
Go ahead and give us your take on Daddy's most for us.
00:49:28
Yeah, so I mean, the way you just his dad is Randy Moss, and that's really gonna make it.
00:49:34
Name Reid.
00:49:35
However, I know you joke Borough, that touchdown and Daddy's ma four of them them coming in the national shape.
00:49:47
If you're trying to find a Randy Moss in Saudi is you're not gonna find it.
00:49:51
I believe it's just in our ordinary athlete, that one.
00:49:55
One thing I do like, build me the block in there.
00:49:59
However we know because you have a ability to block in their own game doesn't mean you're catching touchdowns catching passes.
00:50:07
I make your really fancy and die.
00:50:11
Please.
00:50:12
I might What the Adam and later in the later rounds you're out, however, to march on the fantasy.
00:50:22
Yeah, if you could tell me right now that Daddy is Moss would get moved to a fullback situation on the team that actually using because there aren't that many teams out there.
00:50:31
But just just throwing to spit balling out there.
00:50:34
If you want it on a team like San Francisco you want on the team like Baltimore and actually you lies or fullback from time to time.
00:50:40
I think we'll have a better NFL career.
00:50:42
Obviously, I was not going to a fancy because of your fullback or fancy or all of it.
00:50:45
And that his mom is gonna be thing is irrelevant.
00:50:47
He's not quick.
00:50:48
He's very stiff in the hips.
00:50:50
So while he has some nuance to his route running ability, you could tell he learned from his dad growing up.
00:50:55
He's not going to run away from anybody in the NFL.
00:50:58
That's, that's for sure.
00:50:59
And why was it a shame that he got hurt for the combine? Honestly, I don't think he was going to have a great workout because the combine really only benefits players that are athletic freaks.
00:51:09
He is not one of those guys.
00:51:10
He is a guy who has made his name for him being a fundamental blocker.
00:51:13
He's not a pass catcher.
00:51:14
That's why I want to bring up that he's Moss here.
00:51:16
I don't think he's a guy who's going to draft before the sixth round, quite frankly, if it could possibly not even get drafted, it all, but we want to bring it up because people are gonna talk about because his daddy is Moss.
00:51:25
And I want to make sure nobody makes the mistake of thinking that he is this athletic, uh, overgrown wide receiver who's playing tight end. He is not.
00:51:33
He is a block first type of guy, So Ah, Glad you thought that way.
00:51:36
Glad you said that.
00:51:37
And that's that's kind of why we brought him up.
00:51:40
Ah, and when to make sure everyone knows that.
00:51:42
So I wouldn't touch him in dynasty leagues.
00:51:43
He's never gonna have re job value.
00:51:45
Obviously s O.
00:51:46
That is most kind of just staying away from and making sure you guys know that name.
00:51:49
Now, this next guy, I'm not going to try to pronounce his last name.
00:51:52
We're gonna call him AL Borough.
00:51:53
This is Nick name through college.
00:51:54
We're gonna stick with that nickname.
00:51:56
Ah.
00:51:57
What's your daycare on? Albert? Oh, who had the fastest 40 at the combine? Thanks.
00:52:04
Glad you called a Marlboro, where a lot of people will call him, but run that one the past 40 one.
00:52:14
He's got a small tight and either five line of press it for 9 40 Playmaker, play about any right and position.
00:52:26
One thing I do not the best route runner struggling great separation with its route, although he's a big threat and the red bone brought in 23 total touchdowns.
00:52:39
Hurry, Um, think you can make a difference for the room in the red zone for interval.
00:52:46
All right.
00:52:47
I don't really know where he can land that Miles.
00:52:53
Yeah.
00:52:54
This is another guy who's gonna be very situation dependent, right? Because, look, we're talking about guy whose greed, straight line speed, he could run away from people down the field.
00:53:04
You could definitely charge at the scene.
00:53:05
I have him cops as a poor man.
00:53:07
Version of no offense.
00:53:09
And what was the big game on? No offense.
00:53:10
He doesn't have a round tree.
00:53:12
Albert.
00:53:13
Oh, really Doesn't have around here.
00:53:14
And I don't know if you can ever develop one because you're talking about a guy who you want somewhat stiff in the hips.
00:53:19
This is Somebody needs to stretch him out, somebody to teach him ballet something.
00:53:22
He'd go and give this guy a yoga class.
00:53:24
He looks like he can't move left or right when he's out there on the field.
00:53:28
It takes a year and 1/2 for him.
00:53:30
to turn a corner on an out route.
00:53:32
The That's the My biggest thing with Albert, So I think we're talking about a guy who is it athletic specimen as faras, the size like you brought up there can run.
00:53:41
You can run past almost anybody, especially for how big he is at 449 incredibly impressive and you see it on film.
00:53:48
But unless he's in a situation where he can just have a linebacker one on one, he could just one past him.
00:53:54
I don't know this guy who's ever gonna be really that consistent.
00:53:57
He's always gonna be that guy who you're gonna wonder about and has some athletic appeal.
00:54:01
But at the end of the day, isn't really going to ever be utilizes it, really, ever gonna be a featured guy who's ever gonna actually take off and be anything more than a backup? So I think he's one of those guys.
00:54:11
You're only talking about a dynasty leagues anyway, as far as value goes, and he's one of the guys.
00:54:15
I would let someone else grab him and make that mistake, and I would open up that draft spot for a guy who might actually have a better time career.
00:54:22
I don't see it out of Albert.
00:54:23
Oh, unless you suddenly gets way more flexible than what he is. Definitely.
00:54:29
Now, this next I want to talk about, though Harrison Bryant is is that guy I was talking about a little bit earlier that I think could sneakily have some re Dr Value if you want it in the right situation.
00:54:40
Because this is the other all around tight end coming into this draft class who very well may have a chance to make it impact early on.
00:54:48
What would you like about Harrison Bryant? Who thinks I know? You said you liked him earlier.
00:54:53
Yeah, I really like Brian.
00:54:57
I being one of the top tight ends in this class.
00:55:01
Mayerson Brian have a bit of the ninth at Florida Atlantic on her head.
00:55:06
Coach Lane Kiffin.
00:55:08
Uh, See, you don't see this A ton, Ryan.
00:55:12
1000 yards.
00:55:14
I have a collegiate tight end.
00:55:16
We never see tight end over unless they're pretty special.
00:55:20
You've been all around where Very high seven. Max to the ball.
00:55:26
Um, you go in the might be able another.
00:55:31
I mean, £243 get away.
00:55:38
The waiter, um one like think join job Earl and Cincinnati.
00:55:46
You know, we didn't see Joe Borough used various monster fun.
00:55:49
L u I do think with Brian being in Cincinnati, joining your borough goes to get a very good connection and could be a fantasy producing tight end year one.
00:56:02
You would be a later on option and redraft in and sitter taking him in the third the fourth round of rookie draft and being very happy with what he could bring the money team in the future.
00:56:15
Yeah, I do like that call quite a bit myself.
00:56:18
Ah, that's definitely a great fit.
00:56:20
Especially since you're talking about a team that you know.
00:56:22
Not that Tyler Eifert has been much because these back issues, But he did just sign with the Jacksonville Jaguars.
00:56:27
He's not there.
00:56:28
They do.
00:56:29
They do need another tight and see who's been.
00:56:31
Uh uh.
00:56:33
I almost called it.
00:56:34
I always combined. Ah, CJ Houshmandzadeh.
00:56:36
Until one person there CJ Guzman is definitely not the guy for the future.
00:56:41
Right? So yeah. Harrison Brown, you're talking to the guy.
00:56:43
Maybe third round, fourth round in the NFL draft. Probably go.
00:56:47
He would be somebody that he could.
00:56:48
They could probably pick up that point with their draft picks.
00:56:51
So that is a plausible and a good spot for a guy like that.
00:56:55
Yeah, Harrison, Brian, He's to me. He's a guy.
00:56:58
He was in the smaller school.
00:56:59
Ah, lot of people don't know about him coming into it, but there's nothing he really can't do.
00:57:03
He has the right size you're looking for.
00:57:05
He can block a little bit.
00:57:06
He has to get a little bit better, a little more power in his run blocking ability.
00:57:10
Ah, but it's news.
00:57:11
He's able to do that.
00:57:12
He'll be really good. I think he would really excel in an offense.
00:57:14
I would use him as an H back, and I do think with Zach Taylor and what his background is would actually probably utilize them in that type of area are just a team like that where he could be kind of move in and kind of be like that.
00:57:26
Fullback flex tight end kind of be utilizes the peace all around and because he is of these in blocker, he's still going to be on the field most of time and be that starter Harrison Bryants means a sleeper guy that you have to look out for in dynasty drafts.
00:57:38
It may be a year from now, but I think it'll only be a year from now in year two for him that he will be able to come back with some nice dynasty value for you guys and be a Titan that we're talking about later on is possibly a top 10 top 12 type of guy When we get the redraft leagues and in a year or two from from now, he doesn't have the big athletic ability.
00:57:58
I think you could actually Ah, could really be definitely a ah redraft assets at this moment, but definitely somebody who I think is going thio make amore waves and be more of a star than people are giving credit for it, especially in a tight in class a lot of people are overlooking in general.
00:58:14
The next day I want to talk about here is Hunter Bryant, no relation, and with them with 100 Bryant here I have him calm as a Jordan Reed.
00:58:23
This is your prototypical fantasy.
00:58:25
Tight end is the type of guy you're looking for, where you know he's more of a glorified wide receiver playing the tight end position.
00:58:31
Ah, he's so whether some of things that you saw about 100 Brian here, you probably more and more thing 100.
00:58:41
But after what? I just ran the same route.
00:58:45
College career.
00:58:47
Yes, you did run a pretty well, but I think running maybe one minute and now.
00:58:51
And they were smart enough to hide that, Um, I want to turn it frank.
00:58:58
Combine drink with after posting 23 wraps up to 25.
00:59:04
Really, he is a lot stronger than I originally thought.
00:59:07
Oh, he's not the greatest run blocker, but he doesn't feel it more of a lottery fever in my eyes.
00:59:13
His ball skills are pretty.
00:59:16
I do like when I waiting.
00:59:20
Yeah, I agree.
00:59:22
That's why, compared with Jordan, really even had a similar work out the Jordan Reed, too.
00:59:25
I mean, he ran a 474 door and re ran a 475 I think a lot of people forget that Jordan Reed didn't run that great over 40.
00:59:32
Those people expect him to.
00:59:33
I agreed to.
00:59:34
He did run.
00:59:35
He doesn't have the full route tree or At least we didn't see him run the full round tree in Washington on a consistent basis.
00:59:41
But he has the hips of a wide receiver in high school.
00:59:44
He was actually a running back.
00:59:46
He has that athleticism where I think it's something he's definitely going to develop the next level.
00:59:51
He just needs to go to a team.
00:59:52
It's gonna be able to utilize them in.
00:59:54
Such doesn't isn't going to need to call on him to be a block because he's a terrible blocker.
00:59:58
It doesn't matter of its past blocking, run blocking.
01:00:01
He's he's not.
01:00:02
That guy likes that.
01:00:03
He's a he's an overgrown Why receiver? Who's too thick to actually play the wire Seaver position.
01:00:07
So you kind of make him a flex tight end situation.
01:00:09
He's gonna fit somewhere because flex tight ends are in high demand.
01:00:12
People always want them somewhere.
01:00:14
So he's somebody.
01:00:15
Well, I'm gonna take.
01:00:16
He's actually got kind of sneaky redraft value to pickle where he winds up if you want.
01:00:20
Valentina actually has ah tight end need and needs to actually feature somebody in their offense as a weapon before, he said.
01:00:27
Harris and Bryant going to the residents.
01:00:29
That was kind of what I had in mind, especially comparing him to Jordan Reed.
01:00:32
It felt like a natural fit there.
01:00:34
Um, but yet he I usually hear what you're saying on that.
01:00:38
Definitely true.
01:00:39
But I think you're talking about guys going to really develop as faras past catching goes.
01:00:43
Ah, the question will be, of course, does he want to put a team that needs a tight end to be able to also run block? If that winds, that being the case, I'll question how much he's able to get on the field.
01:00:52
And he's also not a guy who's being as touted as Jordan Reed coming into the draft, either he's gonna go a lot lower.
01:00:57
There's not gonna be as much invested in him.
01:00:59
To get him going right away is the other interesting thing.
01:01:02
It will have to wait and see what happens with him.
01:01:05
The last guy we're talking about today's podcast is Adam Trautman, and this is one of my favorite guys.
01:01:10
Talk about this is the sleeper of sleepers.
01:01:13
This is the guy that a lot of people don't know about, but because he played in such a small school we played in D two, you didn't play d one ball, but this guy has the prototypical size you want has the athleticism that you want.
01:01:24
And I think Adam Trauma is really gonna shock some people and be a name that people will find out.
01:01:28
Maybe in a year or cue from now.
01:01:30
He's not gonna start right away.
01:01:31
He still Raul at the tight end position has only been a Titan for about a year.
01:01:35
Houston, tell us what you think about. I'm Trautman.
01:01:40
I agree.
01:01:42
Deduction to make him stop tired And whoever scouts are hesitant did plant FBI and they are still unsure if you could bring it into the next level.
01:01:52
However, Trautman is very talented, Very good athlete.
01:01:57
Why was he here most of the time? Lined up? I did, however.
01:02:02
And then earlier years A day played him in the wild cat position.
01:02:07
Trautman Baller.
01:02:08
When he has the ball in, you're the good job of getting tops you despite being a bigger dead end.
01:02:15
I do believe that draft will favorite tight ends have planned the college level.
01:02:24
I would like Trump Weingartner, man.
01:02:27
She with the jag wires only defined.
01:02:31
I have injury concerns, and I think Charlyne would be good guy to bring in and let him your ear or maybe just learned the system better and become a in years to come.
01:02:45
Yeah, I like that a lot.
01:02:46
So he's definitely somebody's gonna have to develop Ah, especially in his blocking ability.
01:02:50
I think he will be able to do that.
01:02:52
The NFL level because of his size.
01:02:54
He has natural strength on there's.
01:02:56
There's going to be a longer learning curve with him because he just has been planted in that long and he's going to have the biggest jump as far as talent competition goes because he was playing for date and he wasn't playing for a big school, so he's gonna have a longer learning curve.
01:03:08
But he has the talent there.
01:03:11
I literally like this guy a lot, so if you're in your dynasty leagues, you want to pick up somebody later on who has some upside of tight end position.
01:03:17
I do think that in Trotman's going to shock some people, especially upcoming in the years to come in That one last tip it'll have on him is that he plays a lot faster than his 40 would suggest.
01:03:27
He only wanted burning a 48 I thought I was gonna be in the forest that low four sevens at that.
01:03:31
But his tape shows a much more athletic, much more faster guy who definitely can stretch the seam.
01:03:36
I believe at the next level that actually wraps up the show for today.
01:03:41
I hope you guys all enjoyed it.
01:03:42
Went through a handful quarterbacks and tight ends for you guys there.
01:03:45
Ah, Houston.
01:03:46
Before we let you go, can you please tell the MD Nation exactly where to find you? And what's something that you're gonna be working on coming out the next? Ah, few days here.
01:03:59
Twitter, our main account.
01:04:01
Final drive.
01:04:03
You can also find my personal account at in the finished on march here.
01:04:11
I'm currently working on the wide receiver, right.
01:04:15
You can see where I rank my current wide receivers and and they're going to ****er.
01:04:21
I'm gonna have my dynasty turn in rank.
01:04:24
Those will be out before the draft and post draft.
01:04:27
I'll go through every team, see what their fantasy I look will be for the 2020.
01:04:33
Excellent.
01:04:34
Excellent.
01:04:35
Houston, we want.
01:04:36
Thank you.
01:04:37
so much for coming in today.
01:04:38
So much for being the first time of parents on here.
01:04:40
We will definitely beginning on getting you on the show more, more, especially with the off season being the way it is and Constant, we're going to get out.
01:04:48
There gonna be a lot of dynasty moves here that we're gonna be getting made, uh, made after, especially after the draft, because we'll have a bare concrete idea of the value of these guys where they're going to go, and then I'll give everybody else a better concrete idea when the rookie jobs come up where they want to be able to take these guys just so everybody is clear, we're gonna be back again.
01:05:07
Of course, next week we got one show a week every Friday.
01:05:09
We're gonna be back next week talking about the potential fancy value for running backs.
01:05:13
We're gonna be on the phone next week.
01:05:15
Our special guest is going to be Anthony, sir.
01:05:17
Vino as any savino from fantasy prose, one of the top PCR ranking guys on their last year finished effectively 15th overall.
01:05:25
So he's gonna bless this show with his presence.
01:05:28
We cannot wait for that.
01:05:29
You can always find this show on Twitter at M D S f f show on Facebook at M D F F show.
01:05:35
Make sure you're checking us out on belly up.
01:05:37
Fantasy sports dot com We can find all the scoring leader rankings of consisting rankings that I am working on will be out on that website soon.
01:05:44
Makes you guys called the MD Nation Hotline 6093622480 Get your comment.
01:05:50
Your rant, your question, whatever it may be.
01:05:52
Get it out, get it off your chest.
01:05:54
Get a chance to be on the show and we'll have it on on next.
01:05:57
One assumes you leave a call.
01:05:58
A sense to leave a voice mail there for you guys.
01:06:00
We'll be taking off real, so make sure you come on and follow this podcast on any one of your favorite podcast. APS.
01:06:06
And, of course, every show there in the off season is being a live video stream on YouTube and the singing football show subscribe SportsCastr at M D.
01:06:17
F F.
01:06:18
Belly up us and and you can also find us on Facebook.
01:06:21
As I said at and the FF show.
01:06:23
We got that live going there as well.
01:06:26
I hope you guys all enjoy the show.
01:06:27
We'll be seeing you again really soon.
01:06:29
Next week.
01:06:30
And everyone stay safe, Stay healthy and take care.
01:06:48
Thank you for listening to the MDS fantasy football show.

Watch Next back continue

complete
0:00
44M ago
play_arrow
@Floodster Throwback Com #26 Raptors vs Bucks Part 2 #26
57:21
10M ago
play_arrow
@JoeNoobo2 Buccaneers coach Bruce Arians playing to offense’s strength this season #NFL
1:00:20
11M ago
play_arrow
@LawrenceOwen Buccaneers coach Bruce Arians playing to offense’s strength this season #NFL
complete
26:59
45M ago
play_arrow
@SamuelReisSport Nathan's Sports Show Ep 17: NFC south predictions with Samuel
1:01:32
11M ago
play_arrow
@RayRauth Buccaneers coach Bruce Arians playing to offense’s strength this season #NFL
complete
29:17
46M ago
play_arrow
@Floodster Throwback Coms #26 Toronto Raptors vs Milwaukee Bucks Game 1 2019 Eastern Conrefence Finals #NBA#26
complete
7:25
1H ago
play_arrow
@SamuelReisSport Nathan's Sports Show Ep 17: NFC south predictions with Samuel
complete
17:59
1H ago
play_arrow
@SamuelReisSport Nathan's Sports Show Ep 17: NFC south predictions with Samuel
13:26
1H ago
play_arrow
@landondallasfan WRESTLING PODCAST (EP.14)
1:11:02
29M ago
play_arrow
@LakerCentral Talking about the NBA #NBA#lakers
17:59
2H ago
play_arrow
@Sim Why Tom Thibodeau would fail with Knicks unless he changes approach #tomthibodeau#Knicks
35:19
2H ago
play_arrow
@REast_Eazy The AR Soccer Show Bundesliga Preview 6/5 - 6/7 from theBRKDWN #BayernMunich#Dortmund#Bundesliga
32:50
4H ago
play_arrow
@WeGotNets NBA news: League sets Aug. 25 Draft Lottery, Oct. 15 Draft #NBA
8:41
5H ago
play_arrow
@thenext Breaking News: THE NBA IS BACK #AllTalk#NBA#Corona#NBANews
14:20
5H ago
play_arrow
@LawrenceOwen Bears WR Allen Robinson comments on dizzying QB situation #NFL#ChicagoBears#Spotlight#AllTalk
14:15
6H ago
play_arrow
@AdamArmbrecht Lakers legend Shaquille O’Neal reveals ‘defining moment of dominant run’ with Kobe Bryant #AllTalk#NBA#Corona#AllSports#Spotlight
complete
2:00:54
4H ago
play_arrow
@SamuelReisSport Benfica vs. Tondela - Primeira Liga #soccer#PxP
complete
10:20
6H ago
play_arrow
@IsaacSports My Top 5 Current Players on the Miami Dolphins #Dolphins#NFL#AllTalk#Rankings

Related Streams back continue

14:36
6H ago
play_arrow
2:34
6H ago
play_arrow
10:00
6H ago
play_arrow
57:51
6H ago
play_arrow
@klw sports talk with kerry wehmeyer show june 4 #AllTalk#AllSports
17:01
7H ago
play_arrow
@Supersam Madden 20 Rebuild Episode 2 #Madden20#eSports#NFL
complete
28:41
7H ago
play_arrow
@SSNPowerHour A VERY Brief History of Jews in Baseball #MLB#AllTalk
11:27
7H ago
play_arrow
@Sports101 Nhl 2020 Playoff Predictions and Mlb Dream season bracket #NHL#MLB#AllTalk
10:22
7H ago
play_arrow
29:39
7H ago
play_arrow
10:50
7H ago
play_arrow
32:43
8H ago
play_arrow
@landondallasfan AFTERNOON HANGOUT WITH LANDON (EP.11) #AllTalk#AllSports
15:24
8H ago
play_arrow
@DPNSportsTalk Patriots’ Jakobi Meyers wants to be ‘levels ahead’ next season #NFL#Patriots#AllTalk#Spotlight
1:03:02
9H ago
play_arrow
10:01
10H ago
play_arrow
4:53
11H ago
play_arrow
@Sports101 First stream and mlb The vault #MLB#AllTalk#baseball
15:43
21H ago
play_arrow
@Bellyupmdffshow Interview with Greg Auman (Bucs Beat Writer The Athletic) #buccaneers#fantasyfootball#NFL#FFB#AllTalk#Interview#Spotlight
25:49
21H ago
play_arrow
26:45
21H ago
play_arrow
Broadcaster Insights chevron_left
Create An Account chevron_right
add_a_photo
https://sportscastr.com/
By signing up, you agree to the Terms of Use and privacy policy.
Get Started
Sign In Sign Up chevron_right

Sign in to join the SportsCastr community and get completely free access to more features than ever! Choose a sign in method below.

facebook With Facebook continue
twitter With Twitter continue
email With Email continue
mobile Text me a code continue
Sign In Sign Up chevron_left
email

enter your email address

We will send you a code to confirm your email.

Send Code
Sign In Sign Up chevron_left
lock

enter the code we sent you

You already have a SportsCastr account. You may login to your existing account.

We sent a code to

Confirm & Sign In Sign Up Resend Code
Sign In Sign Up chevron_left
mobile

enter your phone number

We will send you a code to confirm your number.

Send Code
Sign In Sign Up chevron_left
lock

enter the code we sent you

We sent a code to

Confirm & Sign In Sign Up Resend Code
Share Stream chevron_right
Download Stream chevron_right

Encoding Failed

This video failed to encode. Please contact support if you would like to download it.

Contact Support Share Stream Instead
Download Stream chevron_right

This video is

This video will take up on your device.
Are you sure you want to download it?

Download Stream Share Stream Instead
Download Stream chevron_right

Not ready yet

This stream is not yet ready to download. Please try again later.

Share Stream Instead
Embed Stream chevron_right

Copy & Paste this embed code to embed this stream on your website or blog. You can also embed your channel so anytime you go live, the live stream will be shown.

Copy Embed Code Embed Channel Instead
Tix Received chevron_right tip_leader
Broadcast Stats chevron_right tip_leader
New Followers chevron_right tip_leader
Share This Broadcast chevron_right
chevron_left pip_mid pip_mid pip_mid chevron_right
Audio Controls chevron_right
mic
Microphone

This will toggle your microphone ON or OFF.

mute_mic
Original Audio for viewers

When toggled ON, viewers will hear both the broadcast audio and your microphone. When toggled OFF, your viewers will only hear the audio from your microphone.

volume_up
Original Audio for You

Toggle ON the original audio ONLY if you are wearing headphones, so your viewers don’t hear an echo from your speakers.

Back To Stream chevron_right
More Options chevron_right
Belly Up Sports' MD's Fantasy Football Show @Bellyupmdffshow Follow
person 71 Viewers continue
comments See Comments continue
share Share Stream continue
embed Embed Stream continue
closed_captionclosed_caption_off HideShow Closed Captions continue
transcripttranscript HideShow Transcript continue
expand collapse Expand Collapse continue
flag Report Broadcaster continue
community Game Commentators continue
leave Leave Stream continue
Tip Leaderboard chevron_right tip_leader
Initial Crap
Game Commentators chevron_right