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I'm joined by Matt from Lakers UK and Kenny, a k a Lake show scoop.
What's up, guys? How are you? Yeah, Good. Thank you.
How are you voting Every right? Yeah.
How you holding up right now? Um, in your respective areas with the Corona virus.
Man, I've been I've been locked up in my apartment for the past two weeks.
The only time that I'm going out is, ah to make a run at the groceries.
And, uh, fortunately enough, I was able to stock up with toilet paper Before all this happened.
I was able to pick up some six packs on Amazon.
Their their tissue brand is actually really good.
I am gonna pick for a reason.
So pretty stocked up in that respect? Well, in that man, I've just been cooped up in my and my heart just like everybody else.
Yeah, it's the same.
Same here. We're about two weeks into quarantine.
I didn't think I'd hear toilet paper being described that same depth, but, I mean, we're stocked up as well.
We've got, like, maybe like 20 rolls, so we're good, but most importantly, rule stocked with food.
I just go out from one's every few days which we're allowed to do and then shopping, and that's it.
It is a good time to watch the content with more time to do it.
So trying to take advantage, definitely.
Now, you two have been on the podcast a number of times in the past, and this is the first time we've live stream together.
But when I thought about this idea of looking at how the Lakers came, remained contenders.
Long term, I thought, Who better than to have that conversation with you, too? Because I know you both provide Lakers content out there on social media and on a number of different platforms.
So the Lakers, right now, as the season is suspended, they're 49 14 and that's the most wins that this team has had since 2010.
2011 on then the Lakers had a terrible six year drought.
Matt, I'm going to start with you, um, looking beyond this season.
What do you think is one of the primary things the Lakers should do to make sure they don't fall back into another 456 year drought? I think the main thing is secure in superstars, Really? So I mean, I think it all falls on Anthony Davis, and obviously he rejected the contract.
That sanction, which Waas expected with the way it works with his contract, looks ideal.
Probably sign a two year deal.
If you're is to return with the Lakers.
I think all indications show that he is, and then you can get more money that way.
I believe I don't know the ins and outs, but that's what I've read.
And so I think the main thing is just securing him.
I mean, nothing's as as, you know, it could be quite unpredictable, but a songs we should kill him.
We're looking forward, especially with him in his prime.
Obviously look long will it last forever I mean, you showing all indications that well, but I mean, eventually, Father Time will catch up with him.
And I would say, all leads on on any Davis, Really? And then once you should kill him, you can move forward and then look to pay him.
Or was someone else not naming names? Obviously, uh, there's all eyes on the lease and confidence with that one trying to prise to weigh one of their assets.
But I would like to add that I think one thing that we've had this season that we haven't had in a long time is a capable supporting cast, which I think is really, really important.
So it's important to have the super size, but the likes of Avery Bradley, it even like the lights of my career.
So Caldwell, Pope Danny Green and players like that.
I think they are sorry for missing somehow, but I think they're deemed more like a premier supporting cast, a ****in that's really important.
I've been moving forward.
If we can try and secure talent like that as well next season, we're not covered that moving forward beyond then, I think, is important.
The important thing.
But Yeah, I'm Jenny Davis and then supporting cast and we can go from there.
We'll be looking good.
What do you think? Any man, you know, two things.
The things we got to do, we gotta call up good foreign.
Tucker number one.
Uh, we got a way, Andre, we gotta get Andre and Groom signed to a contract when he recovers from his injury.
We're gold. Never.
I'm just kidding.
I agree with Matt.
The number one thing that we need to do this summer is really to secure Anthony Davis.
That's, you know, that's the first thing we do.
We we gotta get David's back on a long term deal.
He might dio one of, but we'll see.
We'll see what he decides, but that's gonna be very important.
And, uh, we got a lot.
We have our eyes on one and two year contract, so I think that's gonna be also pouring to really build that core around Anthony Davis once we secure him.
And I think that's gonna be our top priority and stop, you know, I know.
You know, uh, I guess I'm not supposed to name names, but it seems like we're laying the groundwork for, Ah, you know, someone from the Eastern Conference.
Hopefully, that may not have a breath on the Lakers, but but, yeah, I think number one priority is getting Anthony Davis.
Yeah, I mean, I agree.
The big thing is securing Anthony Davis that that's first and foremost, and I think beyond that, Um, look, the Lakers need to worry about this year next year and try to win championships.
But you know, anti Davis has the ability to opt out of his contract into this season.
Uh, at first I thought that was a foregone conclusion, that he would opt out, but then be a lost somewhere between 204 100 million with this stuff that happened in China earlier in the year.
And now with the Corona virus, I would imagine they stand to lose another couple $100 million which directly impacts the salary cap.
So it might actually be in Anthony's best interest to opt into his contract.
You know, I don't know what that the numbers will look like, You know, we'll get them, I'm sure sooner than later, but it might be in his benefit toe opt into his contract.
And then beyond that, the Lakers need to remember that.
You know, while LeBron looks like Superman, he won't be Superman forever.
And so they certainly need to start planning for the future.
And Anthony Davis, number one security.
Right? But what we saw with New Orleans is having anti Davis isn't enough because you end up wasting his talent when you don't have other superstars around.
And when you see with him with LeBron all of a sudden, you see how good anti Davis really can be with another guy on his squad.
So look, you guys don't want to say it, but I'm going to say it, ya honest answer to Campo, the Lakers.
I would imagine that were there.
They will ultimately, um, look, in the year 2021 when you're honest, can opt out.
And I looked at the free agent list.
I mean, there's some other names.
Obviously, Kawai and Paul George can opt out, but I'm sure none of us expect them to become Lakers.
Um, but beyond that, the names that are out there Chris Paul DEMAR DeRozan um, Blake Griffin, there is nobody.
You know there's no top five players that will be available to pair with Anthony Davis.
So you know it's gonna behoove the Lakers to either get ya n'est ce or do a really good job with building.
We're signing role players, high level role players to support anti Davis as LeBron starts to decline.
Yeah, you know, uh, I three, I think it all starts with this year, too.
With looking already a staff, a winning culture again.
I think that's really gonna attract a lot of three agents in the future.
We're as the last six years we were in a rebuilding situation for years.
And at the time, you know, we heard reports on a lot of free agents.
I mean, you know what one in particular LaMarcus Aldridge and me, you know, he's good, but he's not great.
But I think there is something about him that he didn't want to come to a Lakers a few years ago just because he didn't He didn't want to come to ah ah, rebuild because of his age.
So I think with this season it's just that we're having, and especially if the season that does continue and we we do get to the playoffs and beyond.
Have a crack on, you know, when that championship.
I think that's gonna go a long way in terms.
Are artists of Ah getting a high name free agent in the future now? When Phil retired Phil Jackson, that is.
When he retired in 2011 the Lakers went through six different head coaches.
It seemed like every other year we were firing head coach Ah, and now we have Frank Vogel and he seems like the right guy.
How important is it Thio to you? To you? Matt knew Kenny that the Lakers keep Frank Vogel around because clearly he's doing a good job this season.
He knows howto work dollars, But how important? How important is it for them to keep that bench? Ah, you know, cohesive and having the same coach long term.
I think the main thing there continue ality.
So I think it's one thing that we haven't had to think with players with head coaches, and I mean the frustration thing with we'll go back to the wall and was it was actually a lot of the basics.
He was getting long.
It wasn't like a big puzzle.
That was really complicated.
I mean, yeah, he didn't didn't have the talent that Uncle House this year, but a lot of his mistakes.
We're just We're just basic Andi.
We just needed a head coach to comment and just the lights of LeBron James and Andy Davis to just stabilize that.
You just do what needs to be done, you know, fundamentals first.
And that's why I think first and foremost, he's doing his rotations of obviously a lot better.
I think anyone for notations about only Wallens, and But I think, you know, I think it's just fundamentals When you've got the talent there, you just need someone to make it clicked together and make it job.
I think first informers has come in with that.
He obviously had a defensive reputation as well.
This time in Indiana had a little bit of a slip with Orlando.
That seems to be, you know, dead in the war.
You know, a bit of a play and say I think it's just done in.
I don't think it's been incredibly special or anything.
It's just fundamental spot on and he's just on the job that we expect.
Yeah, I don't I think when you have superstars, the thing is, you know you don't need to be this great coach.
You just need to be able to communicate with your superstars and your veteran players because this is a veteran laden team.
But you just need to not make mistakes as a head coach.
And I think one of the things the Lakers did wrong is when Phil Jackson retired, it almost seemed like every coach was an extreme right.
So they have Phil Jackson all time great, coach.
Then they went to Mike Brown, very different from Phil Jackson.
Then they went to Mike D'Antoni very different from Mike Brown.
Then they went to Byron Scott very different from Mike D'Antoni, then Luke Walton.
Very different from Mumbai. Risk.
Everybody was always They were swinging left to right.
And if you look at like the Toronto Raptors, when they let go to win Casey and they promoted Nick Nurse, it wasn't they didn't go in a completely different direction.
Nick nurse took what Dwayne Casey already did well and kind of added his stuff on top of it.
What do you think any? Yeah.
You know, ever since ever since it in have always had, you know, a liking towards Frank Vogel.
This was a while ago.
I think this was Oh, no.
I gotta look back on how long ago he was in Indiana, but I was when I looked at him and you passed the eyeball.
That's being the coach.
Um, I think first and foremost Ah, it all starts with the person on that you have in play that you have.
Um, you know, with what the coach that we have for Dan, Tony and Mike Brown and Brian Scott.
I think the team, the trajectory of the team elites were the team.
Was that all of the team? It was very different from From where? Well, you know it with those coaches, um, other than in 2013 24 team, when we had over a r. P.
But Nash Castle, I mean that that was the only time that we had an opportunity to actually go somewhere.
But all the coaches after that, um, it was a really I think there was just maybe a lot of people would disagree with me, but there was just think of their cir***stances where the team waas Um I think Liu Guan was really good.
The only thing that unfortunately I think what Luke Walton he excels when he had established roster.
I mean, when you look at Golden State when he filled in for occur, obviously he was all Golden State.
I mean, every clay you dream on, et cetera, but, well, it was in L. A.
He had a lot of young guys.
He still had a lot of young guys.
No Brandon Ingram football.
And and I don't think Walton's string is really developing.
You know, the young guys on the team, and that's why I think going forward and the one obvious that we have to secure a personnel.
That's the first thing trouble could be our coach.
But if we didn't, if we don't have LeBron and we're just we just have a Davis.
I mean, obviously, Bogo wouldn't be as successful, but I think a little wood is the the best man for the job right now, and not just the things it does on the floor.
Obviously, if you guys ever watched a pregame or post game cards, uh, and just how he's been handling this whole situation with, you know, the tragedy of Kobe.
He he's he's menaced by in front of the cameras, and and I think that's all you know.
That's something that that doesn't get mentioned that often.
So, you know, I think Bo goes around.
Yeah, I like Frank Align and keeping with that theme of coach, I think just one of the biggest issues the Lakers face the last six years prior to the season was, you know, they they had a lack of leadership.
You know, It just seemed like, um, you know, Jeannie was the governor of the franchise.
She was the controlling owner within the siblings within that trust.
But Jim was vice president of basketball operations, and Jeannie has said in a number of interviews that her and Jim didn't even talk.
Sometimes during that stretch that he was making decisions and she didn't know about them or she would find out when we found out on TV.
Um and then you know, when she fired Jim, which I think made a lot of folks happy, she hired magic and magic.
For all his success on the court, for all his success in business.
Uh, magic clearly wasn't qualified to run the Lakers, Nor do I think he actually had the interest and running the Lakers.
Um and so it just seemed like neither one, no gym or magic were qualified to build a team.
And now we've got Rob Pelinka and by all accounts, Jeannie, Rob, Frank and LeBron or all in anti Davis.
They're all on the same page.
You don't hear any issues with the coaching staff, Remember? Remember when they were bringing in Jason Kidd and folks that Jason Kidd was gonna backstab? Frank? There's been none of that.
People were worried about Kurt Rambis coming in as an advisor.
There's been no issues occurred.
They were worried about Linda Ramparts.
There were no issues.
Everything seems to be running cohesively.
Seems like Rob is making all the final decision is taken to the genie.
But how important is having that leadership between the front office and ownership in the coaching staff and and your star players? Yeah, I think so.
I think there's been a lot of drama with the Lakers over the past few years.
Obviously, a lot of it you mentioned there with with the lights of when Magic was in, and even before, we've like this sibling rivalry in the ownership of the franchise.
But I think now I mean, I think the main thing is I feel like the whole culture of the franchise has changed, not just on the car off the court.
Andi think one thing which is important is that we don't seem to be getting all these leaks like we have done in previous years.
And I mean, I'm sure like arguments happen and, you know, there are like him, you know, like in everywhere place where there's a bit of friction.
I think it bound to happen.
But the main thing is, is every single little thing isn't going out acknowledge anymore, which things important.
And I mean, there was even such a thing as being, you know, employees were unhappy, like around the place, I mean, but I've been to practice early a few times, and there's been employees around and everything in it looks perfectly fine.
It looks a nice place, and I don't think there seems to be any of that that's just from the outside, looking in on Dhe.
I think Rob Pelinka deserves.
Thio, you know, is definitely off like Executive of the Year without out.
I think he deserves all applaud.
It said that that gets and you stop trying to get it now.
But I think that's the main thing.
Is the drama off the court? It seems a lot more communication, he said.
Nurse like you were saying Alex, Andi, I think the ladies have been in the dirt and have been the laughingstock of the MBA for quite a few years prior to, you know, the last two.
And I think it was just our time.
To be honest, I think a lot of it just the MBA look comes around.
You're only bad for so long.
You're only good for so long.
And I think it's our turn just good again.
And yeah, I think it's the main thing.
The culture has changed, I think so.
I feel like the Lakers, you know, they go on a championship run every decade from the and from the seventies with Jerry West, the eighties of Magic and Kareem, you know, and then they, you know they played in the final in the nineties, lost the Bulls, obviously, but the neighbor back at the start of the new new decade with Shaq and Kobe.
And when the Lakers were really bad and we were in a lottery year after year, I mean a head.
They drafted really good players, you know.
They drafted Julius Randle, D'Angelo, Russell, Brandon Ingram, Lonzo Ball, Cal cooks, my Larry Nance, Jordan, Clarkson and so many others.
And I think we all can agree that the Lakers scouting department is really, really good.
They're good at finding gyms in the late rounds.
O r into the first round in the draft.
But I feel like the Lakers were never fully committed to develop developing those players that the Lakers are always looking at getting, um, a star.
And that's okay because that's been the Lakers way.
I mean, they've almost always drafted a star and trade it for star.
They traded for Karim.
They drafted Magic.
They signed **** back.
They drafted Kobe.
They drafted Kobe.
They traded for Paul Krystle, right? They signed LeBron.
They traded for Anthony Davis.
I mean, for the better part of four decades, that's exactly what they did.
Hell, they even they drafted Jerry West and traded for Wilt Chamberlain.
I mean, that's what the Lakers do.
And so are you guys surprised that they eventually pretty much shipped everybody out. Except for Kyle Kuzma.
You know, just like what you think you know, they try the formula of drafting.
You know, I got to something on it.
So it's only been a few years, but, you know, maybe 35 I've done a lot of things in my past that, uh, that ah probably explains why my memory isn't so great, but, uh, you know, we had middle.
We have been ball.
I mean, we had a lot of, you know, caliber players, and, you know, unfortunately, we draft there, Randall.
I think it was its first game, but his leg knew the whole year.
And now now it's pretty tough.
You know, that was definitely that was, um, a shark's stomach.
My idioms are kind of off sometimes, but it was but in the gut because we just drafted Julius Randle in.
You know, we're all so hopeful that it could be, you know, the next forgot what his comparisons were or whatever.
And then I'm burning.
He breaks his leg.
He's He's tough right now, but after that, they drafted.
You know, Russell, and you're supposed to be the missus.
And then And then you know that.
Then panels from everyone you know, had the, you know, he had the notion of maybe he wasn't mature or, you know, about Palin.
But we don't see him giving 100% of every game.
And then, you know, we had Graham next year, and it just seems like every single year we were just like, All right, we're out of the pot, you know? We gotta take it so we can get a good draft pick for next year for next year.
Next year and not a while.
The Lakers just decided.
I think it all came down being able to sign LeBron James.
And then once you saw LeBron James, you have no least year 17.
He's been elite.
You stop it, decline in his game.
But, you know, you know, Father time has been undefeated.
We know now that we're gonna have maybe three or four, you leave Pierce of LeBron.
I'm going on the high side.
You know, I want to go on the high side just because I know like your nature is watching.
I think LeBron's got 232 years and Leak, and he's still gonna be a very good player that.
But I really kind of set a time line for the front office that we gotta win now.
Because now you know that we can't take to get Anthony Davis on the team, Rod.
I mean, last year, before we got a d.
I mean, we were doing pretty well, you know? Well, I was doing some reading in January.
We were six games out of first place.
You know, I think in December we were, what, three or four games out of first place and even March, the Lakers were about Cornell games out of eight.
Well, we all know what happened.
They're just honey.
Um, Brandon Ingram was out for a bit, and obviously, LeBron went out for the first time for bones of his career.
So even last year, you are all healthy.
I don't think we were gonna, you know, win a championship so well that they know besides lebron that we're kind of on a time clock and and we got it.
Waste a year of us a career, so I think that's what the big emphasis on them trained for.
Eight, even though they give up some good, good pieces that they drafted.
I think if I may out in there as well, I think that my personal opinion, I just don't think you win in the MBA with kids and think is it's okay developing.
Maybe 123 players at a time that not all in your starting line of the kind of deflected from the entire roster, but when your entire starting line up an entire bench is practically kids apart from by three veteran players, I think it's just impossible for me to be honest with you and a CZ Well, when they'd be in L.
A. I think just made it even worse.
The expectation, the bright lights, you know that.
I think what a lot of people forget is that easily 18 1920 year old kids that being thrown into a big city with large contract, huge amounts of money and they're bound to make mistakes and bound to get distracted off the court and nothing when you entire roster.
I mean, I'm just looking it and who the players, you know, they were drafted is a lot of them were You know what I mean? You look at the lights of, like, Julius Randle Janja Russell, you know, in groom, you know, all probably from NTAC.
Out to be all, you know, top top talents.
But you look at the lab lights of light Nan's and zoo match.
You know, they just ended up being I solid role players, and I think they will probably just be solid role players.
But we're expecting them to be stars.
And we're pushing for them to be stars is obviously I'll expect our expectations so high, not to mention the lights of, like, Ryan Kelly and anti around that we all kind of all in at one point and then they're not even in the league anymore.
And so again, I think it's a balance of veteran leadership and kids on superstars.
It needs to be across the Foster, and I think we're too far in with just Kimpson.
I think at the time were one of the youngest teams in the NBA.
I don't want sight post trade deadline that this season, when the second oldest aside from the Houston Rockets, and I think that tells I'm starting you win in the end, being with kids, No, I mean you can like, you know, you have one young player, maybe two, and the rest of the teams are team of veterans.
I think too many people look at what Golden State did you know, home growing Draymond clay and stuff and then having such great success and then being able to convince Katie to come there and having continued success when the reality of it is, you often don't home grow no home, grow your players to that level of success that Golden State did.
I think sometimes people even look at what San Antonio did with Tim Duncan and Manu and Tony Parker.
But those are Those two situations are outliers by and large.
You know you need a veteran team to win championships, and I think with the Lakers, I'm not surprised that they basically got rid of everybody except for one and that one being Kyle Kuzma.
Also, he was one of the older players that they had drafted anyway, Um and you even see in his situation how tough it is for him at his age.
I think he's 24 at his age, too.
Contribute on a championship team, a team with championship expectations.
It is very different when you're basically, you know, going out there and playing for the lottery versus every single night.
You're trying to win a game because you're building towards a championship.
So I think it's different.
Let me ask you guys this to kind of close us out when the NBA resumes and to everybody watching.
I believe that this particular season will resume.
If anything, I think they're gonna shorten next season.
But I do believe this season resumes.
Um, whenever it comes back.
Are the Lakers presently constituted? Are they are they in place to win a championship when the season starts back up? You know, it's important for us to say when the season starts back up and the season starts back.
I really wanted to come back and I feel with this creep team with Ross, they're currently constructed, especially if you look at the two games, the two important games room for the hiatus.
I mean, we went, we went up against that.
The teeth of best record and also the other team in the Western Conference.
That's gonna be our big competition and team currently constructed.
We, LeBron James committed and we got very convincing winds and really showed the caliber of this team when everyone's healthy and everyone's on the same page.
So when the season comes with the roster, as long as everyone stays healthy and they really the right way, that they have a great shot in winning the the chip action this year, obviously in the West the Clippers are our who's in the way to the finals? Uh, yeah, that's gonna be an amazing, amazing match up West Conference finals between those two teams.
But, um, there's been a lot of teams that when we talk about Milwaukee, has been so dominant for so long.
But, uh, earthen, their third, a lot of scouting with them now, and a lot of teams are kind of they have to learn about how to stop.
But when you when you talk cross stopping the bucks, you really start with the honest first and with the other players.
So So, yeah, I think they have a really good chance in a champion that check.
I should this year if they remain healthy.
What do you think, man? Yeah, I agree.
I think that the championship window, I think, the next two years if if we stay currently constructed, I think Kenny brought up an excellent point and it's pivotal toe everything and its health is the Lakers haven't had that in quite a while. Really.
I mean, even when we have kids, they were practically falling all the time to injury something healthy, anything and then also as well.
I mean, we haven't been in the postseason for so long, but the players that we have have been in the postseason in the years that we haven't Bean in, so I don't think that's gonna be much loss there with top of the West.
I quite a land side for a reason and we beat the lights of and the books, the Clippers and obviously the 76 days before, obviously there were injury ra***ed, but then we went and beat the Celtics and Nuggets in the fire 10 games.
You know, too, that we we've been on excellent once this season, so I think once we get to the postseason, I think we'll be tuned in I think, like any said and everyone next, that's, I think, the Clippers the biggest rep.
I don't think the games that we played against them in the regular season have Bean fully accurate, obviously, the 1st 1 being the first game of the season.
I just don't think it was ever going to be away.
The 2nd 1 I think we were still kind of coming to grips with the team and they were kind of going through growing pains and I haven't really lost.
I think the last game was probably the best, an indication not just because we won.
But you know, both teams are so deep into the regular season, you know it.
I think we really are there to compete with them.
And so, yeah, I think if we can get through that, I think I think the books might get exposed in the playoffs.
To be honest with you, it really wouldn't surprise me if if someone like John is falls or is um you know anything less than 80 90% I think they'll struggle and qualifies me to see a bit of an upset in the conference finals at least, but I think even if we get to final seem capable of being in the books I read like me show recently s Oh, yeah, I think the this season, Certainly next season.
Certainly, given a DIY situation, I think that's hard.
Yeah, the Lakers have been atop the Western Conference pretty much all season long, and there were some experts that said that they would only be a 50 win a 45 1 team would struggle to get the fifth seed.
And here we are, one seed.
We were about a game and 1/2 2 games behind the Bucks before the season stopped.
Um, and the Lakers just completely, uh, demolished the bucks and and clippers back to back.
LeBron outplay Kawai and Johannes in those games.
And so this Lakers team is for real.
If anybody thinks that they're not legit, they are absolutely legit.
And, um, you know, hopefully, hopefully all the players, an MBA, remain healthy throughout this time, and their families and so on and so forth and everybody watching the live stream.
I hope that they're healthy as well.
Um, but, you know, from a basketball standpoint, this could be a time for them to kind of re charge a little bit.
You know, I do think when the season starts back up, um, there'll be a bit out of sync because it's it's just it's tough to miss this many weeks of basketball.
They can stay in shape.
Um, but game shape is another.
And then also, you know, being able to pick back up where they left off.
It's a bit different.
So my overall opinion I think the Lakers are championships, is champions this year.
Once the season.
Is that I really believe that I'm not just saying it because I'm a Laker fan.
I think that they're they're on a mission this year and I fully expect him to win a championship.
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If you use promo code Laker control, you can also find Laker Central on apple Spotify Google cast box everywhere.
Podcasts are found.
So we'll close out on that note And until next time, folks, I'm out