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Good morning, everybody.
And welcome to FBC Radio Live It is Friday, February the 21st 2020.
That's right. It's our last episode of the week.
We're heading into a weekend right ahead of the NHL trade deadline.
And without further ado, I would like to bring in my my co host.
He is the Mr Mr Mike Debate.
He is Mr Rhode Island.
He is Mr University Isbister $1,000,000 Man.
Mike, how we doing today? Look, the day ago.
Ah, Are you doing buddy? Has everything going for you? Was that It's good.
It's good. There you go.
Oh, it's It's been a mess this morning, buddy.
I'm not gonna lie.
I've been discombobulated.
Things weren't working correctly when we tried to start the show.
It's it's been a ah, it's been a test of my will's Thio.
But I could not miss.
Another showed this week Way had to close it out strong and head into next week.
Ready to go? Yeah, definitely.
I mean, it's just there's a lot going around right now.
No matter what part of the country that you are just seems like everybody's fighting something.
Whether it was me earlier on in the week, I know you've had your issues and what not, you know earlier.
You know, this week and yesterday, we wish you all the best, my friend and ah, good mutual friend Thomas Murphy as well who might be listening this morning.
But if he is, he should be resting.
He's fighting something to sew a sending good karma to anyone out there right now that is fighting some sort of cold or bug or anything like that.
But unfortunately, it's the season for it.
And just put your head down nose to the grindstone and keep getting better.
So but that's why we're here.
We fight through it and we're doing what we do for, ah, for our listeners and also because we just love to hear the sound of our own voices.
So I think that, you know, in a lot of ways, that really comes out in the wash that that's kind of the main thing for May.
Personally, I just like to hear myself speak.
And if you were watching on SportsCastr just a minute ago, we had a special third co host.
It was my cat crawling across my desk.
So hey, that's those are the kind of things you have to deal with when you work five feet from your bed.
I know that was a little humble Brag there because I'm sure you are.
You know, cussing now as they kick the snow from underneath the the tire wells and and, uh, get ready for another day's worth of work.
Well, I stay here and drink my warm coffee and barely move from my bed.
So it's nice, huh? Get out.
No, but it's Look, we had, um I've been talking about it the last couple of times we've been on the show.
Ah, previewing what we have going on on the NHL side of things.
And, ah, you know, if you didn't tune in during the Bruins game the other day, we had a live ah broadcast with our guy, Chris Mancuso.
He was talking Bruins while the game was going on on our SportsCastr Paige.
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It's gonna be a weekly thing.
However, with the trade deadline this Monday, we're gonna have a special debut of part in the park.
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So, um, a little a little tease there.
I don't want to give away too much.
I'm not even gonna get it.
Give anything away to you until we're off there.
So, um, no, I'm looking.
I'm looking forward to it as a pure fan of hockey and someone that doesn't cover return.
Intricate knowledge that you eyes, of course, making Q so and everybody that works for full press, NHL so honored to be your colleagues.
And you guys do an amazing job covering a sport that I love to follow is a fan, so I'm looking forward to it.
The NHL trade deadline, in my opinion, is one of the more underrated days in professional sports.
There's a flurry of activity I love the way the news breaks.
It's a little bit different from the N B.
A in the NHL and even major league baseball in the fact that Ah, lot of these under the radar moves are the ones that end up propelling teens toward a Stanley Cup run.
And I think that this is something that you can really really see.
Ah, and you're going to see probably a lot of those moves made on Monday.
So I'm looking forward to it.
Kick back, relax and enjoy the coverage.
Yeah, it's gonna be fun.
And, ah, again, I'm hoping that my voice is ready because it's gonna be a lot of coverage on Monday, and we're gonna have Chris on actually this show Monday morning to talk some NHL trade deadline as awesome.
Yeah, yeah, you know.
Hey, we got we got to get some coverage as the last few hours approach, and you're right.
I, you know, as a as a kid and as Ah is a fan of hockey, I've always loved the NHL trade deadline.
It's it's It was always a big, eventful day.
The last few years, it's become more of, Ah, long stretch and basically the finish line to to basically along ah month or so of trade speculation because we've already seen plenty of trades go down.
Ah, already big, bigger names get moved before the trade deadline.
So I'm sure there's gonna be several moves made that day.
But in the past, I know it was always like bone, bone, bone.
You couldn't take your eyes away from the computer.
I mean, this is before Twitter was really a thing.
So, you know, news wasn't sitting there break and you were basically refreshing. Whatever.
Ah, NHL web page you visited or watching? Ah, well, I wouldn't even say yes, but I mean, this is hockey here.
So we're not talking about NFL RMB a coverage we're talking about, you know, bottom third backpage type coverage.
But, you know, there were sites out there, obviously that you go to If you were a big hockey aficionado, that, you know, you would kind of get those updates as quick as they come in.
So that was always fun.
And I'm looking forward to Monday and being able to cover it and, ah, talk some hockey for several hours and, uh, hopefully hopefully have a voice by the end of it, cause if now we might be only having one episode.
FBC RADIO Next week and it's Monday morning.
I think you'll be all right. Definitely.
You know, drink some some tea with honey.
I'm in the throat of the throat coat by Yogi, I heard it's very, very good.
So do you have any opportunity to pick that up? Cheap plug there, I know, but that's helped me over the course of the last couple of days.
Seriously on that Will will help Thio to bring back a little bit of the luster in that voice.
But I alluded earlier Thio covering the ER you know, the NHL and what not.
I did have a chance to actually cover it very briefly when F B C and an H L was in.
It's really, really infancy stages and, you know, we were doing some of the coverage and I actually helped you cover the trade deadline are first rate.
Deadline is, ah as an entity for PC.
And it was It was fun.
And you talk about the moves that are made.
You can't take your eyes off even with Twitter at our disposal.
And even with all of the moves that were being made, that ticker just kept.
I remember updating our page over and over again about trades.
And just when I thought I'd have a moment to relax or a moment to kick back and said, Okay, well, there's that flurry.
It's probably gonna be a little bit something else pops in thes moves Or just, you know, they come fast and furious a time.
So that was definitely a ah, fun time.
And I'm looking forward to being on the other end of it this time and watching the coverage instead of having toe keep a diligent I.
Now I can keep a fan's eye on it, and I encourage you all the check it out.
The FTC NHL page is growing exponentially, you know, under this man's leadership.
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And Mike just earned his month's pay right there.
With that, there were a way so well done.
You don't have to promote anything for the rest of the month.
So sit back. Thank you very much.
But much like George Costanza and I am out.
I'm gonna walk away from the table right now.
We know wanting more folks not getting no look, we we wouldn't we wouldn't promote and and push something if we didn't believe in it.
And yes, just because we're involved to some capacity, but you may make us a little bias, but again, we we we anticipate a great show on Monday.
Ah, both this show.
And of course, our part in the puck debut, which will be a trade deadline special.
And then, of course, we will ah, kind of hammer out Ah, and let everyone know what the weekly premiere date will be every week because it's going to be a fun show.
And we got a lot of great plans for it.
So But enough with our plugs way complex.
We will plug the rest of, you know, well plugged the rest of the way.
But let's focus on the here and now.
Oh, my son, I saw that.
That was great, by the way, one of my favorite most.
Okay, So maybe we're not gonna get to sports right away, because one of my favorite movies back to school, uh, popped up on Twitter among some of our mutual followers.
And any time that comes into play, there's just there's so much about that movie that I love.
Um I mean, I just like I don't even know where to start.
That's how much I love that movie.
I mean, well, you know, I actually think this will lend into our sports discussion because I was the one that started this firestorm.
One that actually got at an a d a T i c.
Your, uh, made my my well wishes and and flowery thoughts to be folks.
Andi, thank me for bringing Thornton melon back into your life on a very mundane Thursday.
What? The name of sorting mail.
I mean, this is Mr Thornton melon walking, epitome of the decline of modernization.
Okay, you know, I'm gonna cut it there, because I continue to go on it. You watch it? Sure.
Look, in any case, I started that fire storm last night on Twitter because we were talking about a lot.
Um, the new proposed rules, the new proposals, I should say, proposed changes to the NFL collective bargaining agreement.
And there's a lot of opinions back in full force going on and on.
And the big news that broke yesterday afternoon is that the owners approved their proposal while to me, that's kind of like much ado about nothing.
Of course, they're gonna prove it was their proposed.
Yeah, you know, I mean, it's like it's it's like these elections around the countries of these Dictatorships.
Unanimous said, Well, yeah, it is a gun to somebody's head, forcing them to vote that way.
So, you know, naturally, I mean, they're going to approve it.
So to me, not not that that's going on in the NFL.
To my knowledge, that hasn't happened since the seventies.
But no, I'm kidding.
I'm kidding, folks. Good spirits.
Absolutely up. Yep, Tinfoil hat.
And, um, you know, it just it reminded the first thing that popped into my head when I heard the proposed the owners approved their own proposal was the scene in the act of school where Rodney Dangerfield's got that He's come to trouble, and I hereby dedicate this building to myself.
I think that's exactly what you're doing.
You're basically like propping.
You're you're pumping your own tires.
So I think that will lend us into something that I'm sure we're gonna talk about today.
And that is the new proposed changes to the collective bargaining agreement and what it means for both parties.
Yes and ah to to kind of loosely bring it back to back to school.
I just want to talk about the transition into that scene because that's one of my favorite just, you know, the subtle things that make me laugh.
And that's the negotiation with the dean inside the dean's office and the dean's telling Thorne that you know he's far too old.
The semester's already started, and then it's just no possible way that he can be a student.
And then you do the quick and here will lie the Thornton Melon School of Business.
It's it's just it's fantastic.
Also, Ned Beatty playing D.
Martin in that and any time that you can incorporate Dean Martin into anything on Italians Gonna love that movie anyway.
So that's right, Dean Martin, The button I, in any case, great, great stuff.
Great scene, Just excellent, you know? Well, well, well done.
And, you know, again, one of my favorite movies of all time.
I'm anybody that's listen to this show knows my affinity for Rodney Dangerfield and his stand up act in his comedy.
So, yeah, I thought that was a great way to describe it.
But again, I think it does.
It brings it back nicely, too.
The owner is the players and this c b A.
Now that is really starting to fester a little bit.
We heard rumblings.
I think it's it's worthy for our listeners to know that the actual CD A it is not up this year.
It's up next year.
Yeah, it's up in 2021 so they're not under the gun to do this in terms of a lockout or anything like that.
If there's no agreement, there's still gonna be football this year, folks, they're not gonna lock these guys out early.
But at the same time, it's also very, I think, encouraging for a lot of these people.
For a lot of these people, I think it's encouraging for both sides that they're willing to negotiate this soon.
However, you saw some of the news last night that broke from the Players Association.
I think this might not go as smooth as people think, but they're still, you know, those out there that believe this is gonna get ratified as soon as today.
So you know who knows who really, really knows for sure, and and as you you bring us for it, I just bring us right back because real quick, I want to mention one more thing about back to school.
It's funny that you brought it up and you made some great points about the CB, and I'm going to touch on that really real quick.
Ah, in a minute.
Ah, but there was something else going around Twitter talking about range with actors.
And, you know, people would post four photos you know of, of different roles that different actors have played.
It didn't really go viral too much, but I did see it pop up a few times and I actually thought about Yeah, I thought about Robert Downey Jr and one of the things that popped into my mind was I could use that I could use a punk, Robert Downey Jr.
From back to school.
It's one of the photos because it's like Man who remembers him in that movie.
I mean, I do because I love that movie.
But so and then it's funny that you brought it up, but you ended up bringing up back to school.
So again, more more evidence of the shared brain theory, which is going to be placed in medical journals worldwide it anytime, but absolutely calling that you couldn't do that.
You can't do that exercise without Rodney, because I mean, basically, like you put Ronnie please, a variation of Ronnie. But he's Rodney.
I mean, you know, it really do that.
So Robert Downey Jr would actually be be pretty good.
Another character in that movie that I don't think you could do that with his Williams Abacha.
Obviously, everybody knows him for as Johnny from The Karate Kid and anybody that's seen Cobra Kai.
Definitely check it out.
It's za great show, and he does a great job in it.
But again, essentially, Billy kind of plays the city character in every movie that he's in.
He's in that He was also in another great eighties comedy called Just One of the Guys.
Anybody? I've never seen that Check that out.
That's funny, too.
He essentially plays like the typical eighties bully, and you know he does that in every movie that he's in.
So if you wanted to do like one of those, like a snapshot, that's probably not the actor to do it.
But definitely not Rodney.
I mean, Easy Easy's himself, no matter what.
So yeah, the range is not there.
But it's the quick wit that we love about Dangerfield.
Of course, of course.
That's why he's one of our heroes.
I I think it's safe to say No, look, we we love Rodney and we will always talk about Ronnie and, you know, it's it's it's disappointing, Um, because on my old computer.
And I often find these things out when I want to use them live.
So it really hurts what I'm trying to do.
But I had a plethora of back to school quotes.
So including things like, Yeah, what football team of my my high school After a second quarterback they went after that.
Looks like the quarterback.
You know, if there was family S O, I'm I'm realizing how disappointed I am about that because I had some good Lou ones in there, too.
But again, we don't want to get off on your own.
This is Look who He's the girls.
Yeah, this is turning into the back to school review show.
Yes, e i Once again, there's been several times on this show where I I placed the title into the show, and I've I've been ah, basically wrong.
And we've just not talk about anything that we've, uh I've actually written, but no, we're going to get to what? We have to go there.
Is you made up? Ah, you brought up a couple of good points.
There is obviously when it comes to ah, the C B A the big things that are really focusing or what's being focused on our obviously the extra game, the 17 games that the Thea adjustment of the pay structure for that 17th game.
And, of course, the addition of two playoff teams which, you know, I have a mixture reaction to this.
At first I looked at this and you looked at the reaction to some of the players, and you're like, Okay, this doesn't seem like a good deal, But then I think about it a little bit and you got to think not about, you know, guys that spoke out.
Watts of the world and all that, and not about those guys but the guys you know, guys 45 to 53 or 30 through 53 on that roster.
That that don't make this type of money that don't go and get these endor*****t deals and make you know, you know, twice their NFL salary and an outside NFL work.
So all of a sudden that this additional minimum of 450,000 for that 17th game is looking pretty good for a lot of these players.
Now, you look at that, I like J J.
What? Who again? Probably, you know, I don't know.
Off the top, my head, I don't know, a salary structure, but I imagine he makes far more than that part game.
So you know the idea that he's gonna have to sacrifice a little bit for the other guys to get a lot? You know, all of a sudden I'm starting to look at this is okay.
Maybe this isn't as one sided as some people have said.
I do want to learn more about it and kind of see how this unfolds.
And Seymour reaction from people who know a lot more about the intricacies of these things than I do.
But ah, you know, first reaction was I I thought it was lopsided as I looked into it a little bit more, it seems it's it's not as bad as it seems now.
I do have problems with things like, ah, playoff editions and all that.
But, you know, for the for the most part, I think, you know, hopefully there on the right track because no one wants to see these guys have to strike.
Yeah, and I think I actually do believe that cooler heads will prevail.
I don't think this is gonna come to an impasse the way it did before.
Thank you very much.
Thank you, folks.
I appreciate that.
But in any case, if the players association, a lot of people are reading a lot into the tea leaves and saying, O.
J J Watt came out and said, No, this is not good.
And, you know, Richard Sherman criticized the, uh, the proposals even before they were, they were approved by the owners.
So they're not gonna tip their hand.
They're not gonna come out and say, Oh, we love this.
Let's get a job done.
Let's do this and that.
You know, it's part of the negotiating tactic that even if there are tenants in that agreement that they could live with, they're not gonna tip their hand just yet.
And I think a lot of people are hoping that this gets done before free agency.
So that way, there's a clearer picture of a salary cap and that it might make it easier for teams patriots thio be able to tack on, you know, you know, years or maybe even additional monies at the end of contracts, debris and, you know, just Ah, sorry, folks.
You know, I still have that little bit of a tickle in my chest in my throat, but, uh, yeah, yes, it is. Absolutely.
I do believe it's it Is this BDs? It's, um it's It's very, very prevalent up here.
And apparently a lot of, ah lot of idiots that have, ah, afternoon radio shows air coming down with it.
But, you know, it's if we keep fighting the good fight up here, my friend.
But I will never quit in any case, Absolutely never quit.
But in any case, yes, there are, Ah lot of advantages to trying to get a deal done primarily when it comes to finance, and primarily when it comes to contract negotiations.
You mentioned the 17 game season.
I'm still on the fence about this.
I'll be very honest with you.
There are parts of me that yes, you understand that the 7th 19 games that the teams are going to be playing it's an opportunity for the owners to make money.
But, you know, speaking with Tom Murphy yesterday and Murph and I talked about a little bit.
You know, some of the issues that arise with this.
It doesn't really give you that warm and fuzzy about warring, about plans for player safety and for a league that really is so hell bent on saying that player safety is our top concern.
Adding another regular season game to the schedule is yet another opportunity for players to go out there and possibly get injured now, all right, I understand it can happen at any other point during a 16 game season.
But the rigors your body has to go through for one football game is something that the average human being has no idea what these guys go through just to get themselves on the field in a lot of ways, especially late in the season, you can add another by that may help a little bit.
You take away the preseason game.
In my opinion, that does nothing.
You know these preseason games, the starters and the meaningful players are not gonna play meaningful minutes anyway.
In the case of the final preseason game, most of them suit up, but they don't take one snap.
So you're not really saving the wear and tear on the players that you're gonna be seeing in the playoffs now.
The playoff playoffs.
But the flight? Yeah, exactly.
Apparently, Fleet Lee yet, folks.
So thank you, flaps, but the playoff structure.
To me, this is one that May that I started to warm to a little bit more, much like yourself when I first saw this.
That's why would they do anything to change the playoff structure? The NFL playoff structure is exactly what we love about it.
It has the wild card games, wildcard weekends, the build up the amount of teams.
But from an owner's perspective, you can understand that.
And again, I'm quoting Murph a lot, but he made great points yesterday when I talked to him.
You look at the markets that weren't in the playoffs this year. Neither.
Los Angeles team, neither New York team.
Those are the two big markets.
Let's face it, you know Dallas wasn't in the playoffs this year.
I think a lot of people in the inner workings of the NFL are looking at this and saying, but we really need to get these teams back into this or some type of market back in to be able to increase revenue and to be able to give them a playoff spot.
So that's that's one of those.
B SC is running the show up in Manhattan.
He is running these meetings, and after every point, he's given that $1,000,000 laugh.
But you know that to me is the That's the benefit for the owners.
But the benefit for the players is the bonus is that they can receive by getting to the playoffs.
I was a little bit surprised to see that thief first round by is going to be taken away from one team per conference guaranteed.
You have to do that if you're going to increase the amount of teams that play.
However, I think it's gonna cause some problems at the end of the season, where if you have one team that's wrapped up that first round by all of a sudden, it doesn't make it doesn't really, you know, make for some meaningful games at the end of the year, which means you're gonna be seeing some of these players sitting, Ah, lot more than maybe you saw them in the past.
Maybe that's the trade off for some of the health concerns.
But to me, if you're a league that's worried about the bottom line, you know Week 17 or Week 16 may see a lot of the starters sitting.
And that's not gonna make the fans happy.
So there's a lot to consider.
There's a lot to think about here.
Don't just be, you know, Bewitched by all of the stuff that you're seeing on this platform right now.
Wait for the negotiations to happen because I think there's still gonna be a lot of back and forth here before this thing gets done. No.
And to be honest, that's one thing.
I'm actually not warming to it all, to be honest with you.
And you mentioned teams that didn't make it into the playoffs.
You know, my solution do better.
You know why I agree with you? I don't know.
Why should we reward them for incompetence or inability to grow a team or impatience? I mean, look at the Los Angeles Rams.
They were so eager to make a splash, and through all this money at this quote unquote super team that you know now all of a sudden they look their their future is it somewhat? ****.
You know, I don't believe that they're gonna turn it around too quickly, especially given their lack of capital.
I'II draft picks.
So to me, I Why should we reward and put more teams in the playoffs? I think I think you said it best.
That Theo NFL playoff structure is what we love about it.
And furthermore, when you only give one team of buy, it creates such an advantage for just one team in the conference.
And, like, you know, again, we understand that the buys air earned by the two best teams in the conference and I think they're deserved I think you go through the regular season.
It gives you incentive to play and win all these games.
You know what I mean? Like, you earned that.
And if you give that to just one team, I feel like it's just going to create a, uh I don't know it just gonna create a lopsided cause.
It's not like you have in in look, you coming off that you get a bye doesn't guarantee you, Jack.
All right, but you know when you get an extra week's worth of rest in the playoffs and you're the only team to do it, then, Yeah, it gives you a significant advantage.
Especially if, say, there's the second seed that you know the difference in and record or winning percentage is negligible.
It's You know what I mean. It just to me.
I I don't I don't like it.
I don't know if I'm gonna warm to that necessarily.
I mean, I can I can I can hear all the justifications in the world about a 17 game season.
I may not agree with it, but at least I can, you know, eventually, you know, kind of, you know, go within me like Okay, whatever it is what it is.
And, you know, if these guys were getting an extra ah paycheck and if these guys that are at the bottom of the roster are are making nearly half there whole salary in the final regular season game, then, yeah, you know I'm all for it.
But you know, to me, it's just it's it's unnecessary to change the playoff arrangement.
In my eyes, I think they have the perfect number of teams that make the playoffs.
They have the perfect setup where they have the two top teams making it? Yes, sometimes.
Ah, team with the worst records gonna host a team with a better record.
It happens, you know, It just it is. It's part of it.
It just deal with it.
I don't think that's an issue, but, um, you know, apparently people think it needs to change.
I just you know, I don't know.
I I don't think I'm gonna warm up to that, to be honest with you, I think.
And I understand that I completely understand where you're coming from.
The bad news that I have for your life, buddy, is that from everyone that I've spoken to connected to this, That's really the tenant that the the owners are really most adamant about.
Let's put it right.
Let's put it this a lot of people.
Yeah, like a lot of people have been may implemented the shootout and hockey and doesn't mean I have to like it.
And we'll ever like it because it's been ah, you know, 15 16 years now.
And I still hate it.
So, you know, dr 16 years and, uh, you know, when we're obviously still doing the show, Of course.
have a few hours at here.
Well, that's that's making the assumption.
I'm still gonna be around here in 16 years old.
Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
You're gonna live to be 100 50 miles.
Right? Arrangement takes years off the end of the life.
But now I plan on being here for a long time. Folks, don't worry.
But getting back to that point that seems to be the tenet that the owners are most adamant about is the playoff structure.
And that surprises me.
I really thought it would be the 17 game season making this Thea season a little bit longer, giving the opportunity for fans to come in for an added bonus when it comes to some.
You know, these these teams and the games that they're going to be playing.
But the playoffs? Yeah.
I mean, when I say warming to it, I don't necessarily mean that I love the structure.
But having the three games on wild card weekend is going to, you know, definitely increase viewership.
It's more sponsorship.
It's a lot more.
This is something that is tailor made for the owners because they're gonna they're gonna all share this revenue That's why they all emphatically approved it, dedicated by building to themselves.
But, no, I mean, I think you make a very, very interesting point about the first round by and to me, that's the That's the point that I am not warm to yet, and there are a lot of reasons for that.
But to me, the most important reason for that is you want your best football.
And you alluded to this as well, my friend.
Just now you're wanted.
You want to see your best football out there on the field.
That means that the top two teams in the conference that usually get a little bit of a respite will not have that anymore.
That goes to the top team in the conference, the second team.
Now all of a sudden, there's not a whole lot of motivation to be able to play for that second seed and that's why I think a lot of times you might see these teams may be even dropped down.
You're not going to see your best football at the end of the season anymore.
It's gonna mean you're kind of limping, groaning along toward it, especially if you have a team like right now, the defending world champion Kansas City Chiefs.
They make some tweaks on that defense.
That team could be another jug earn.
That goes through, and winds tend to, you know, dumb.
But 12 13 games.
If that's the case and they have the number one seed wrapped up by Thanksgiving, what does that do for the rest of the NFL season? All of a sudden, you're playing for seeding.
You're playing for positioning, but everybody's gonna play on that weekend.
So it's all of a sudden to me.
I think it weakens the product a little bit.
It puts more product out there, which is what the owners like, But I think it weakens the product a little bit.
And also really before Yeah, exactly.
You know, quantity over quality.
That's gonna be the, um, that's gonna be the the argument here, and that's gonna be really, really where this comes to fruition.
So that's a point I do agree with you.
That's a point I haven't warmed to yet.
Yes, another team getting into the playoffs.
It gives a team that's a bubble team like a nine and seven or an eight and 18 that gets in.
They have a shot now, but I think you made a good point about that too.
You know, play better, be better.
Uh, I think this is a reward of the media market rather than a worldwide rather than a reward of the actual team that gets in.
Because you look at the teams that were on the bubble last year.
Dallas could have made it while San Angeles could have made it.
There were, you know, there were some of these big market teams that could have made a new adjustment to what? To get in.
So you have to think you have to think Joe had his hand in this.
It's so out of it, I would have you.
Yeah, I would imagine he had he had his hand in that a little bit.
Uh, you want some playoff game's over in Big D, But in any case, we'll see.
We'll see what happens and how this ends up shaking out the players.
I think we'll put up a fight, but at the end of the day, you know, I was gonna come out on top, even if it's 51% to 49%.
In terms of who benefits the most, the owner's hold the cards.
It's like Vegas.
You never beat the house.
We'll look and and let's face it, I mean the the players, they're never going to have any sort of advantage in these negotiations because football, unlike some of these other sports Hey, you know, I I don't You know you can't strike in loser season because the shelf life of these guys career that the length of their career, the average length of their career, is so much shorter.
And there's so little guaranteed money that really you can't afford to miss a game.
And when you're when you're 23 24 years old and maybe your ah, second or third string player who's probably got maybe four years in the league, are you gonna sacrifice 708 $100,000 to set out to to make more money for the guys at the top? We're already making millions of millions of dollars, probably not so, and there's a lot more of those guys than there are superstars and and we we just like there's more. J.
Watson, Richard Sherman's and all those guys.
But really, they're the minority in all this because there's only a handful of guys that are making, you know, that type of money out there.
So again, like, why would guys that are, you know, probably only gonna play until maybe, or 25. 26.
They're gonna go start a business and and, you know, live the rest of her life.
So why are they going to sacrifice that much money? Ah, for you know, Ah, what would probably be a negligible, you know, again, if they're fighting for things such as even health care and health insurance, it's still tough to justify.
You know, maybe in hindsight, when you're 20 years older, you sit back and say, Okay, maybe, you know, maybe I should have held out sacrifice that year.
But you know, when you're 23 years old, you're not gonna think about that, and you don't have to.
You shouldn't have to.
You know what I'm saying? Like, you shouldn't have to sit there and have to decide whether or not ah, you need to sacrifice the hundreds of thousands of dollars to potentially get a better working environment.
You know what I mean? So again, it's It's a tough position for these players.
Mostly that the ones that don't make the big money to be in because again, they you know that that's why it's like, you see, guys like the big guys that are making all these money, you know, sit there and rip the CB and everything like that.
And it's It's such a It's admirable from a from a PR standpoint, because you sit up there and you like coke, right? Yeah, they're championing there, that the fellow players.
But in reality, you know, they got their best interest in mind not, you know, not guy number 53.
And I'm not saying all of them.
And I'm sure guys, you know, each team has a player rep.
Each team obviously has a very vested interest in getting this right.
They're not just gonna roll over.
I'm not suggesting that I'm just saying when push comes to shove, Um, I don't know if if the NFL has what it takes and this isn't an insult, it's just a, you know, a matter of fact, it's it's the financial structure.
It's It's the life of the that plays into a factor, but I just don't think they have the what they call gumption or the will to sit out an entire season and sacrifice that money for the for the greater good when, especially you're not even guaranteed to win anything if you d'oh! You know, Look, look at the NHL player sat out an entire year and got a crap deal coming out of it.
So you know what? You know what you're gonna d'oh! Not true.
I mean, on ultimately, the bottom line is the individuals bottom line, whether it's a superstar, whether it's a an also ran, whether it's a bottom of the roster type player or whether it's the owners, you know, they're all looking to pad their bottom line.
They want to come out with as much in their pocket as possible as a result of this deal, and again that I think you brought, you know that point up very well.
It's always going to be in favor of the owners because they hope the cards in this, and I know that a lot of players can sit there and make the argument that it's going to be different and look I'm not questioning their result to be able to do it there.
You know, I'm not questioning motives either.
I mean, I think a lot of these guys, you know have good intentions and good motives.
But at the end of the day, in order to make sure that all of these players get their slice of the pie and they're able to make their living doing what they love to d'oh, they have to concede a little bit.
And at the end of the day, the owners know it.
So you know, we'll see. We'll see what happens.
Ah, you know, I hope.
I hope the NFLPA is able to, you know, show a little bit this time around, get a good deal for both sides, and they come away with a with a little bit more.
Or I would like to see some items in when it comes to Playerssafety added.
Back into this agreement, I think you'll see the Players Association make a push for that.
There's rumblings out there that disciplinary action might be something that the NFL p A is pushing toe have a mandatory third party arbiter.
Stay tuned for that, folks. I'm sure all.
Roger's gonna love that one.
And I'm sure he's gonna be very willing to fork over some of is, uh, ethereal power when it comes to that, Um, you know, to what To be able to do it.
I don't think Snowball's chance in Hell that gets passed, but we'll see.
Who knows? Maybe the players taking a little bit Unfortunately.
Ah, deflate gate has kind of fizzled out here in the last couple of years.
But, you know, this isn't a negotiation coming off things like that and things like, Stay that Zeke Elliott situation in Dallas.
I would imagine it would be getting Maur and Maur traction.
But, you know, as as, you know, life, which is what What has happened lately.
And, you know, this is what that hasn't been, you know, the the Kia story in the NFL as of late.
So you know, it is what it is, but real quick, we only have a few minutes left about five minutes left.
So I do want to bring up Ah Kyrie Irving.
Um he obviously and our good friend Ah, Brian Snowman.
So Well, I'm sure we'll be talking about it on the full press MBA podcasts as well a snowman in the morning coming up here right after us.
But, um, Kyrie Irving is done for the season.
Ah, another injury plagued year for the, um you know, the Super Star point guard.
Ah, you know, look as ah I would never, ever, ever celebrate anyone being injured.
Um, I do, however, um, celebrate the are being right in a way, not not me personally.
Just, you know, this whole shift away from Kyrie has been a bad break up.
If you're a Celtics fan and you know everything that's happened, everything that's kind of transpired since has kind of just given the Celtics fans more reason to believe that.
Hey, they turn And they ended up on the better side of things.
And you know, everyone's talking about Oh, well, you know, this will be good for the Nets when, when when an aging Kevin Durant and an aging will not Agent Kyrie Irving, but an injury play Kyrie Irving return next season.
And it's like I'm sitting here thinking like man, if I'm if I'm a Nets fan like Good God, how can you be excited for the future? Like like I'm just sitting here waiting for them to, you know, get both out on the court and then you know it It blow up in their face because, well, you know, again, you can question, uh, you know, Kyrie has all the town in the world, but, you know, he certainly deserved questions when it comes to his his ability to play with others and, ah, obviously be a quote unquote leader.
So unfortunately for the person you know, obviously an injury effects is everyday life, and we don't want to see that.
But from a Celtics fan standpoint, I'm sure this is a bit of a ah, further justification and further up, you know, just just further emphasis on why the Celtics came out on the better side of things after this offseason.
Yeah, there's a lot of I told you so's going around in Boston this morning and with, you know, with due cause.
Well, look, I agree with you.
I never celebrate injuries, and I'm definitely not celebrating us one by any stretch of the imagination, but, you know, I'm not saying, but I'm just saying, if Cady we're in the lineup right now, I don't necessarily know if Kyrie would be having the surgery right now.
But, you know, Well, I'll digress.
I think that, you know, maybe they're gearing up like you said, To get both Kevin and Kyrie healthy, bring them on the court next year and see what Brooklyn has.
You make an excellent point.
All of a sudden, Katie's coming off of a debilitating injury and Kyrie is coming off of surgery and and another debilitating injuries.
So, do you get that lethal combination of Kevin and Kyrie that they were sold that Brooklyn Nets fans were sold last year when these two guys made the decision to team up in Brooklyn? I think it's gonna be an interesting, you know, year to see what they have.
Obviously, this year is a lost year now for the Brooklyn Nets, but gonna be a lot of eyes on this team in training camp next year to see what these guys look like.
And ultimately it's going to determine whether or not the moves that they made were ah were solid and it's an organization.
Unfortunately, I know they have their fans, and I know a lot of people get passionate about about the Brooklyn Nets.
But this is an organization doesn't have too good of a track record with moves like this lately.
I mean, you look at the move with Garnett and Pierce and bringing them in that never worked out the way they hoped.
This was a You know, these guys were at the end of their Ah, there, there, there, run and it just never materialized the way they had hoped.
It really handcuffed them.
It was a great deal for the Boston Celtics, who ended up getting a ton of draft capital, and now the team that they're building has really become a powerhouse in the n B A.
So the Nets really need to hit on this one.
And, you know, as for Kyrie, it's just unfortunately, Celtics fans saw this coming.
And you know, if you're a Nets fan right now, you're probably rolling your eyes and saying, Maybe they were more right than we wanted to give them credit for.
It will never admit that, but oh, you know that noise like, yes, that's right.
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