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He's back in studio, and, you know, he went away.
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And if you're a longtime listener of the show, you know, I always make fun of his age, but he went away and he comes back as a grandfather.
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You know, I always looked at you as a grandfather, but now it's a real s.
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So wait is a multiple.
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Welcome back.
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Because not only do we have Grandpa Carter in house, we also have the original.
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Is Simo actually 1/3? 1/3 our intern.
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But it was only in the terms.
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And when? And Liam is back.
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So welcome back.
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Liam was the longest tenured Inter.
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I think I know Ryan hasn't planted you now as the longest tendered intern.
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Wow.
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Congratulations.
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He, like you has also gotten the co host tag every so often that he's actually done solo with, you know, probably the earliest host of being an intern.
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Mike the intern.
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So I don't know.
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I think three interns if you're playing poker, three interns beat two old men any time.
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So we got three days to take the risk the night.
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I think he does so so late.
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Well, first of all, A J Congratulations on becoming a grandfather.
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And how does that feel? Uh, feels great.
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Feels great.
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It's It's it's great to go and see my son.
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My daughter lost, uh, you know, with the baby.
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And we're over excited.
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I was gonna say it doesn't make you feel old, but it doesn't make you feel older than dirt.
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It doesn't make me feel older because I have friends, and as you who are younger than me who being grandparents before.
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But that's true, right? So when you look at that, you say Okay, yeah, it's joining the club, but not the first.
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And you're already like past everyone else's club.
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I mean, you know, look, I'm the 1st 1 who essentially retired from his day job.
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That's all right.
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So, William just fill our audience in a little bit of what you've been doing since you've left us.
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Um, so I was a student university Maryland, for four years, so I was interning here a year and 1/2 star my junior year.
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My senior high school, um, made some trips back, but, um, since graduating college.
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I took a job at ESPN.
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I was a part of their production assistant program, their entry level program.
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I started in June 2018.
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I spent a year working on Ah, Night SportsCenter highlights.
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So I would cut anything from NASCAR racing to the top baseball game that night.
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NFL basketball W N B a college hoops, NHL, anything you name it.
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I I could've been on the run and given night.
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And for the last year, I've been working on the NFL.
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So awesome.
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And who would have thought when you were at Thea Komac eight school cafeteria asking the question of the week and editing it up it would lead toa NFL films and all the editing and ESPN.
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Unbelievable. Yeah, I mean it.
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Really.
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These were the building blocks, the foundation of where I am.
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This was the first internship I had.
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I love doing it.
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I'm back here for a reason, right? I mean, more than just a J b grandfather mas a lot, by the way.
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No, I love being here.
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I love talk with you guys.
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You guys know a lot more hockey than I do, but I'll pretend that I know that's what more you know, more hockey tonight.
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No, I'm surrounded by people who know more lucky than I do, and that's that's a little bit of working at ESPN.
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And it's okay, I promise you that. Jimmy. Petar.
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Probably awesome.
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All right, so now let's talk baseball.
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We bring in our Major league Baseball beat reporter, John Carpenter heard here each and every week over 5:40 a.
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How you doing, Johnny? I just want to say that I thought Ted Danson was great in three interns into old men.
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Nice.
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All right, so we're gonna be talking a lot about the Astro scandal with their announcer right after you, so I'd rather touch on what I think.
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Listen, Rob Manfred has his cans full over and above what the perception is gonna be of the Astros toe float out.
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What I feel is the most prosperous.
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I can't even say it is pathetically trying to talk, you know, for the playoff format is just ridiculous.
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What do you have thoughts on? You know what? Baseball is a great game.
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It's been great for a long, long time of the wild card added something.
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But now to add another layer of playoffs.
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I just and then on top of it to make it a game show reality where the team with the best record gets to pick their opponents.
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Johnny, tell me what you feel about this Am I in the minority? And then we took the younger guys and see if they like it.
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You know, I don't think you're in the minority.
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I think people that want baseball are are begging forward to be left alone, and I'm on board with that.
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I can't put baseball for looking for new ways to keep themselves relevant, new ways to bring people in.
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The first thing I want I want to say is that if they think that a reality show component to this is gonna bring in the casual fan, I don't think it's gonna work.
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I think I always think that when they do stuff like this, when they think of stuff like this, they hack off the true fans and they never bring in as many off the casual fan's.
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They think so that's number one.
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The second thing is the wild cards at a component were more more teams are in it.
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Okay, So you create your creating drama with that wild card, that playoff spot between 85 87 winning teams.
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If you If you had two more teams than you could potentially be creating drama for that last playoff spot with an 80 win team or 79 win team on, then I think you make it too much like the N B A in the NHL.
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But the one thing I want it I want to say, is that if you create this, let's say you create this reality show component and you have it on Sunday night, right after the all the games happened.
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Three on that last day of the season you that you have off this reality show. Guess what.
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If you're dripping in Sunday night football number one and number two, you're totally gonna devalue the whole I do.
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You have a bad about end about starting every game at three o'clock? You're taking all the drama away from that, and you're putting it all in this reality show component that's going to go up against the football game.
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If I want to see Oh, I want to Reality TV.
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I'm gonna watch a reality show.
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I'm not going for baseball for that.
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So that's That's all I've got on that playoff on the playoff mess.
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Here's Here's my thought on this.
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What they're trying to baseball's trying desperately obvious to appeal to a younger audience.
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If you look at what basketball in particular, you have an All Star Games where you choose up sides.
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You have all of these things like that geared.
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What they think well will attract the quote.
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Younger audiences.
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I have three, the younger audience here to my right and is that something is going to do it by bringing in basically a school, your type of thing.
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True suit of sized.
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Choose who you want to play.
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I don't think one is I like about baseball.
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Is the playoffs are somewhat selective? It's not that everybody the bottom four teams gets in or half of lead gets in, and I see that bought.
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Looking ahead.
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I know I'm no marks, almost his old John.
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You know, you're not, you know you're not.
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Do they have to play to what they think is a much younger audience to bring in not just the casual fan, but the next generation events.
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I don't think this is it, but I sort of see where they're going.
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What's the Is there anything else they could do that would do that Short of something that I think, Many people, You know, long time baseball fans will consider a sacrilege.
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I have a solution if you want to bring in the younger fan.
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And if you want to keep the younger fan makes makes a make video off your sport more accessible on social media on Twitter on YouTube.
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Make it more share a bowl like the n ba has and lift your dumb blackout rules so that people in Iowa aren't blacked out from seeing five of 30 major league teams because Iowa is too close to all of them.
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01 more thing you want people around the country love baseball in all cities across the country? How about this? Maybe not eliminate 40 minor league teams and base and kill interest in baseball in smaller towns? Agreed it.
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See, I don't even think it's about appealing to the yard.
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I think, man, forget everything you know? I don't think so.
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I think what it is is that first of all, in this day and age where you know the younger audience are court cutters, right? They don't watch TV.
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The way we watch TV, however, the networks are starved for content.
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Now you're adding a the selection show, All right, B.
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Now you're adding another layer of playoffs, or even at the last game of the season games that matter.
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To see the potential playoff ramifications, just take a look at the playoffs.
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They're owned on TBS, TNT.
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You don't even know what station the playoffs are on any more because they go to the highest bidder.
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Tru TV.
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What you watch once a year during the price is right here.
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Let's see what you get the younger guys.
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What you what First of all, you guys for it and it round the playoffs or not.
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I I Ryan, mind expanding the teams that make the playoffs, but I don't like the element of picking your a point, and I think there could be like a pick your poison thing there that I, as a fan, wouldn't want to see my team.
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You know, I have to pick an opponent and then get bit in the you know what because they picked the wrong point.
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I mean, I know that that's a little like ***y, you know, have those kind of matchups meat.
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But I'm not in for Mike, um, one saying, Like as a Yankee fan, like I'm looking forward like Yankees being at the top of the league of the next few years.
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So, like, I don't like a true Yankee fan.
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But I don't want them to have to go into the playoffs and more pressure on themselves now picking their opponent rather than being the so called favorites to win it all.
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They have enough pressure going into it as like that.
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Then there's like it's just a minute.
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I think five teams is perfect.
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I think if you open the Gates Maur, you allow teams who don't try hard enough to get better to still make the playoffs.
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You're rewarding mediocrity by allowing seven and eight teams, and I think the five teams system that they have with one game wild card is perfect.
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It captures a little bit of that one game excitement that college basketball in the NFL has, which baseball's A sport doesn't really have anywhere at all, except for maybe a one game 1 63 which happens once every so often.
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It's not like the fact that you're gonna like it more.
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Interleague play has taken a lot of all of that out as well, because now you've seen all the teams within, like a three year period.
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So you know, I don't think they need to do this, But we'll talk more about it as they developed this plan a little more.
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John, thanks so much we always love.
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Speaking of John, Calm pitcher hurt here each member we Ah, the next segment should be interesting because Jeff Woman is their color announcer with the Astros.
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He's been the player for the Astros.
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He's been announced a long time.
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He's gonna join us right after the break, so I urge you to keep it tuned right here to 5 40 Sports Talk New York Deca Litre.
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A W and welcome back to 5 40 AM Sports talk John Carpenter, you know, reference the popular popular culture and called Tonight Show sort of like three interns into old men.
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Could have been, I'm thinking more of a full house.
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So, you know, if you're just tuning in, we're watching us in.
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The SportsCastr by the end of the show, may be grumpy old, you know.
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He's so right now resembles the Marx Brothers, a night at the opera where people just kept coming into the room.
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We are past Thea Fire Hazard.
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You know, we have A J and I a days back from Florida, he came back.
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A grandpa are old intern who's now at ESPN Liam in NFL films.
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Liam is in the house current two interns, right? And then Michael here.
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So everyone's here and it's Ah, it's good to see everybody.
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Joining us now is a man who enjoyed a 14 year career in the majors, wary about it to 50 99 home runs.
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He played over 1200 games in the majors, the majority of them with the Houston Astros as well as the Montreal Expos, Tampa Bay Devil Rays, San Diego Padres, Chicago White Sox, Arizona Diamondbacks May be one of his greatest moments in the majors.
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Came at the expense of the Astros is during his stint with the White Sox during the 2005 season, he faced the Astros in Houston's first ever world Siris.
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Coming off the bench, he came up in a pinch hitting role in the 14th inning of Game three, where he drove the home run over the right field fence for the game winner.
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He returns for his eighth season with the Astros TV broadcast team in 2020 his fourth as the everyday color ****yst for Astros telecast.
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It is a thrill to welcome Jeff form to Sports Talk New York. Welcome, Jeff.
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Great to be on.
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If I knew that that intro is gonna be as good as it was called in a long time ago.
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So you know, and it's interesting.
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You know, I wonder what we could possibly talk about, you know? But the beginning of spring training about the Astros, I mean, really.
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But before we talk about the Astros, let's talk a little bit about your career.
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Prior to high school, you had a pretty good Little League team mate for about 12 years and Mike Sweetie, who played 16 years in the majors.
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Both of your dad's actually coach together.
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I'm wondering, Did you guys ever lose a game? Well, yes, we did, amazingly enough, that we're always blamed it on the little Rory had to play everybody.
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Oh, wait.
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You know, my Mikey couldn't throw every inning, and I couldn't, uh, you know, I could get every at bat's.
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I mean, you rely on the team who were very good.
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We didn't lose too many when we did.
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It was kind of a shock to us.
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But we did pretty well when we were young out.
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We also.
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Oddly enough, we have Brian Roach and John Jacobs on those teams.
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Two and both.
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Those guys played at least a year in the NFL through Wow, that's a pretty good athletic team for short.
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So after an outstanding senior year at Highs High School for the Chino Cowboys, you're drafted.
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You batted for 89 leading the team in its doubles triples our B.
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I's drawing the attention of college scouts you chose to part of, except a partial scholarship to U.
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C.
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Of Berkeley.
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What went into that choice and what were some of the other options you had on the table and why u.
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C.
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Berkeley? I had options in seven California.
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Castro for turn was it was a team that was college.
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It was absolutely stop pretty good.
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And I was started his foes, uh, minor league baseball.
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But at the time, I was about six foot three and weighed about a buck 60 and I knew that physically, I wasn't gonna be ableto handle is first you have professional baseball, and I don't think memory and emotion that it was also enticed by the fact that my ****s were gonna give me an opportunity to go to a school like cow.
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You know how the night, you know, have my backup Plan B a degree from the University of California was moving at the time.
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I don't know why was that wise at that time? But I made the right choice, and going to school is one of the best things for me.
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And I love telling people that I went to call, eventually became a threat professional baseball player because I think in my position now, I probably wouldn't have such a great job after baseball if it wasn't for those years. I had a cow.
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Your coach.
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There was, ah, legend and Bob Milano, who retired after 99 season with the most career victories, 688 in the program's history.
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He became only the fourth person in cow baseball history to have his jersey retired.
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He was named Pac 10 coach of the Year twice, and ah, he mentored 12 all Americans.
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What did you take away from your time with Coach Milano.
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He was a perfect match up for me and kind of throws a couple of rolls.
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He was a great coach, but he was also that father figure in the sense that he's got the mature a little bit.
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Understand what it meant to become a scholar athlete, taking care of my grades and making enough time to go out there and practice and become a good ballplayer.
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But at the same time, he was an incredible judge of character in town because my first from years you implored me to go and switch it and literally threaten to take away my starship it if I didn't hit left handed.
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And you know, to this day, I think every time I see him, because if I hadn't learned how to sweatshirt, I wouldn't had the career or the opportunities that I've had moved.
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That's why I mean, that's kind of scary.
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I can't imagine like someone saying Listen and say, Wow, that's except this is at a much higher love.
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So how hard was it as a college kept with you to try and do this? That was incredibly hard.
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And you know the comparison of Division one based on two professional does.
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That was around the double eye level.
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So it's a pretty good dad.
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You know, it was incredibly freshening because the reason I remember ripping his office was after about 50 60 bats of killing Repp Tender, where I haven't gotten ahead.
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I was really over 50.
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And, you know, the tomb is kind of getting a sense that I was getting frustrated.
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I was a guaranteed out every time I stepped up to the box and I walked in his office and said, Hey, man, I'm getting frustrated.
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I got not only for me.
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My teammates are picking up my grab.
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Every time I go into the boxers in Norman and the evening and I go, I can't.
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I'm having a hard time, a person kind of game ultimatum.
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So you're gonna keep working our letter? I believe in you and, you know, here we are, 13 15 years in the Big Ridge and a pretty big home run that handed in my career.
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It's also I have to imagine you you talk about guys, whether it be hockey or baseball in the minor leagues, you know you're trying to get to the next level.
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Obviously, in college you're trying to get drafted by a team.
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Now you're going up there something that's totally foreign, learning it on the fly against really good competition and devaluing yourself as you know, when scouts are there.
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That's got that.
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I don't know how you deal with that pressure, but it obviously did work.
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You drafted by the Montreal Expos in the seventh round in the 94 amateur draft.
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That other team's contacted you.
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Did you have an inkling that you were gonna be picked by a team? Yes, they are.
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They're playing the scouts of the games, you know, being lucky enough to play in the packs of the Pac 12 Conference and playing Division one.
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You get a lot of exposure because the opposing team usually has some pretty good talent on it, too.
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So there were plenty of Scott in the stands and you have contact you take all the litmus test, you have conversations, and you know, of course, you get the conversation from everybody all you're gonna be picked in the 1st 10 rounds that you know, that's one of the 200 picks, almost 300 pictures of those, and you have an idea that you're gonna have the opportunity, But, uh, you know, back in back when I got drafted, you know, we didn't have cell phones, and the first would bond.
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I think there were 303 or four rounds in the first day, so I didn't I didn't get the phone call.
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Um, actually, I actually went toe, you know, typical mall rat.
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1930 1990 fashion.
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I went thio the ball with some friends.
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We came back.
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There was a message from about Who's the trash stick? Bill Sturm and from the Montreal excess and I have been drafted 1/7 round.
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So it was pretty clear to come home and realize that you have a ticket to go try and chase down that dream.
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And part of chasing down that dream is you spent time with the Expos organization.
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In the winter of 95 they sent you the Australian Baseball League with the Hunter Eagles.
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You were the one.
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You want a gold glove there, But what was your experience like and playing in that league? What a test on your homework.
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You guys have done an outstanding job I'm gonna give you that.
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But going off surely was amazing.
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I have no idea what we were in for.
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And, you know, you sure do great things about sure when they get there and it excuse every expectation on it was very Westernized, You know, they drive on the wrong side of the kind of thing was really awkward part about it, but the food was great.
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The people are even better than pretty sure soon to New Roses in America Plane when professional baseball, you're playing every day.
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Maybe remember after a week regal hopper and literally played four games and two days on Saturday and Sando, which were both doubleheaders on, back to back those.
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And then we had to take member completely off because there are only four Americans on every Australian team.
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So that meant that the rest of our team has filled up with guys who are working 9 to 5 shots Monday through Friday and only got the weekends off the play.
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And that was part of the most interesting thing.
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But we got to trial, though.
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I got to go to Perth Birds.
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BemaGold shouldn't Everyone was in a motion time.
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Absolutely loved everybody.
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So with guys having toe have day jobs, essentially most of the team, what was the quality? Apply? What was it like? You know, what would you equate? He said.
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College Division, One college ball you equate to double A What do you equate the level of ball on that? With so many basically semi pro players, it was right around the high ball.
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There wouldn't be a lower double a loon, but it was pretty competition.
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It was a time when that boat will send Grandma were prominent figures in the movie leaves for the Milwaukee Brewers in New York.
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So there were some critical point coming out of the country with Australia.
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But like you said, not being able to play on a daily basis, kind of having a crystalline about the weekends didn't really love itself to some incredibly high quality teams.
00:24:19
But we went out the battle, had a great time with a new recruit with friendships, and it's all you know.
00:24:24
It's more about the experiences going out there and you be, you know, on foreign soil, hang out with guys who were working 9 to 5.
00:24:36
You know that green and they're believing in their eyes when they would talk to you about going back.
00:24:40
You know, playing professional, those famous scopes.
00:24:42
So it was kind of fun to absolute interact with those guys and understand that Billy to assume remove.
00:24:49
Or even though they were a little bit further back behind us because we've access, we had Stokes.
00:24:54
So aside from maybe developing Ah, love of Forster's what did you do Monday through Friday when you weren't playing games? Well, I learned quickly that Fosters is good.
00:25:05
But Victoria bitter was right.
00:25:10
Victoria.
00:25:12
Yeah, no, because way told a TV.
00:25:15
And the reason I learned about it is because me and my roommate, Pop Henry Way, had a couple of games where you two home runs in the game and we won't get the next day.
00:25:24
Two cases of Victoria bitter outside our hotel room.
00:25:28
That was kind of like our fight money, which was kind of interesting, eh? So they have the same thing.
00:25:33
Eric Hillman told us when he played in Japan you would find fight money on your cell so they do the same thing over there as well. Interesting.
00:25:40
We so I'm curious about baseball in Australia.
00:25:42
we see baseball here in America, there's not quite as much emotion showing at least with little league level.
00:25:47
In Latin America.
00:25:48
It's very different.
00:25:49
What was baseball like for the native Australians, necessarily on the field where you allow to show a lot of emotion, like what? What made the game a little bit different there than what we would find here in the States? The personality was really without going and it was kind of fun to move to watch.
00:26:07
The really interacted with us, which was very professional and very business like.
00:26:12
And when we released Americans that we played the game of every day, we had a little bit of passion with about flipping on really come into, Ah, reality yet where you try and no show one guy up, have a little show to it.
00:26:26
But when the Australian you guys were facing Australian pictures of the picture, you're facing Australian hitters that stepped up a little bit and you could see that there was a little more incentive and those guys, if they did something good, they would let the other team notes.
00:26:39
And so that was a lot of tender watch.
00:26:42
But at the same time, the one thing that really was different about Australian baseball is that they played on rugby fields.
00:26:48
So we would play into a shirt center and I made a deep left and right, or you play a short right here in a crazy deep left field.
00:26:57
And so I was kind of entertaining in itself, trying to figure out what dimensions you're gonna play with on a day to day basis. Cool.
00:27:03
So you make the climb up the major league ladder in the Expos system, where Terry Kennedy, Cuomo Hodge, Rick Sofield, Pat Kelly was some of your managers.
00:27:10
Rondell White and Vlad Guerrero, some of your teammates.
00:27:13
You mentioned how Coach Milano had an impact on you making you a switch hitter.
00:27:18
Which coach manager, a player in the Expos farm system had the greatest impact on getting you to the majors.
00:27:25
Man, that is a good question.
00:27:27
Um, you know, I played my first manager was Terry Kennedy.
00:27:33
And the interesting thing about Terry Kennedy was that separatist a giant when I was growing up in L. A.
00:27:39
On with the obvious rivalry between the Giants and Dodgers and the California State, you know, I've got to know Terry can be pretty good just from watching it on TV and then to show up my first, my first minor league game and have a bigger manager like that.
00:27:53
I'm putting my name on the night.
00:27:55
It was pretty cool, and you have a lot of great things to say about the game.
00:28:00
He loved the game of baseball.
00:28:01
When I asked him several times that you do in the sport, you know, everybody was not exactly the place we would expect the next big thing, but he But he wanted to be around the game.
00:28:09
One of the biggest remember and run 10 British merchant and help them understand how popular overseas owners and that they can do is make it get to the next level and continue to move on.
00:28:20
But when I got the Triple A, Jeff Talks is my manager, who eventually became the third base coach for the Marlins.
00:28:25
Carla White Socks.
00:28:27
That play was probably a very, very It was an interesting job, so the least.
00:28:32
But he was a very polarizing centers and probably give me the best advice I ever got my life, which was You've got no time and you, but I know it's hard to believe when you're watching the game, but it's definitely a bit, and it's actually something that, taken from the studio live where I can kind of.
00:28:52
I will not let panic set in and kind of settle in and realize situation.
00:28:58
Kind of evaluating.
00:28:59
Still have plenty of time to make the play or make an appropriate decision.
00:29:02
You have a connection.
00:29:03
Veer Expo days to some of the Mets current staff as the Mets bets.
00:29:07
Bench coach Hensley Meulens was a teammate of yours in the minors.
00:29:10
Your first manager in the majors with Felipe Fellow, who is the current manager? Louise Rowhouses.
00:29:15
Dad, what can you tell us about Hensley? And was Louise around the team, much as a young adult when you were with the Expos and what you remember about him if he was around? Uh, to be honest, I don't remember we recently about much of all.
00:29:27
Everything I appeared is, you know, through word of mouth or through an article or watching on TV, and just keep absorbing some of the information now that everything that is great that you anything like his father or you know, it would be a loose, for that matter, if you're anything like them.
00:29:43
He was gonna do a great job in New York match because there was a certain there's a certain passion and a certain understanding of the game, but I think it's Richmond meant that the d N A.
00:29:52
But the rooms have because, you know, I played against nervous salute, a great deal, and I got to know him a little bit, just as an opposing player and a phenomenal human beings to Ruth and Lou.
00:30:04
I give him a lot of credit for my career, you know, allowing it to blossom the way it did because, you know, I wasn't the smaller Ladn more typical shortstop.
00:30:15
When I came up, I was a gigantic human being that sits for three, and he allowed me the opportunity to play some shortstop.
00:30:23
Resinous.
00:30:24
Quick is the Orlando Cabrera's who was there before me, and he let me go out there and play and learn, and he continues the matter.
00:30:30
I would hope before you would come in and go are The noises are rougher do, but I'm gonna put your bag out there.
00:30:36
You got after you kind of Toby, you gotta figure this thing out.
00:30:39
We allow me the time to go do that, which was great.
00:30:41
So I applaud him on that.
00:30:43
But it's a great It's a great legacy that they're continuing.
00:30:47
And I'm actually very appreciate that Major League baseball and the New York Mets of living Lisa Ross.
00:30:53
An opportunity? Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing him.
00:30:56
He was actually I guess I've been around the team and saw him when he was that quality control guy.
00:31:02
And I just love the way interacted.
00:31:04
And I was always pushing for him.
00:31:05
I'm, you know, the cir***stances that led to the job, but at least he finally got it.
00:31:09
We got two more questions for you about your playing career before we get on.
00:31:12
And honestly, when I attacked you a long time ago was about having you on about your playing career.
00:31:18
What's gone on afterwards is is different.
00:31:20
So what, we're gonna get to that? So, um, you make your major league debut? Um, august 9th, 1999 against the Padres.
00:31:28
Um, what do you remember about that day, and how special was it? I remember everything.
00:31:36
So you know that dream realized something will never forget.
00:31:39
And, you know, it may have been in Montreal in front of 7000 fans, but it could have been £85,000 for all I knew.
00:31:45
As excited as that Waas And you know, another credited to repair Lou.
00:31:49
I got called back on August 8th and they put me in a line of pockets.
00:31:53
So no, you didn't waste any time and just said You're gonna get out there and play shirts that were exposed And one of the things I remember vividly First at bat against Mac Roman, he struck me out on a breaking ball and I remember walking back to the dugout with a big old grill, my face going mad.
00:32:08
I'm now, like, officially on baseball reference.
00:32:11
I have a staff Avenger League and moving is gonna take that away from me.
00:32:15
And then I I pursued to go to four.
00:32:17
I played it, you know, I was across the diamond from 20 grand to really to lose earlier, got his 3000.
00:32:24
So I was just a couple of days away from history, and I really remember trying not to be a fan in the moment and watching 20 going to get, you know, watching with the partners were doing and then focusing on my game.
00:32:37
But it was truly one of the greatest things that happened.
00:32:40
My baseball career is being able to get called up but actually produced and contribute to a win and we can talk about it.
00:32:51
S So we mentioned in the intro, that pinch hit home run in the 14th inning of Game three of the World Siris was that hit and then the culmination, eventually winning the world Siris The highlight of your playing career? Yes, absolutely.
00:33:05
And e love the fact that you know you talk to guys like Mike Trout and some of these all stars in these eaten over the super ****am talented stars that even with the moons of dollars they have, even with the M V P Trophy, is that these guys want to have that legacy of being in World Series champion.
00:33:23
And I was fortunate enough to be in a situation with a ball club, you know, I got traded at the deadline that year.
00:33:30
It was a crazy year.
00:33:32
I went from a first place team and the Padres to a first place team in the Chicago White Sox and for 21 days in the playoffs.
00:33:40
I just sat there cheering on our guys until I have that one magic moment in Game three of the groceries where I actually had an opportunity to have an impact.
00:33:48
And fortunately, the picture Mrs.
00:33:50
Pitch by Good Mrs stopped by a good foot.
00:33:53
Behalf and I I had the laser out of Minute Maid Park and the rest is history, so to speak.
00:33:59
But, man, yeah, that's one of the definitely the highlight of my career is being able to hit a home run, contribute within two.
00:34:05
Eventually, put that ring on that, those guys No.
00:34:08
Five.
00:34:09
So before we get to the elephant in the room, which is the astronaut, one more personal question about you 2005 was interesting if you also nuts because of the home run, but for a family situation.
00:34:19
So you ended up becoming the father first, yet adore them.
00:34:22
Father of triplets in addition, and now they're volleyball players.
00:34:25
So what's it been like to watch your daughter's developed as athletes, but invaluable a sport that you're not necessarily that familiar? with.
00:34:33
Yeah, if I was not standing here, my daughters were born and, uh, going remember women groceries.
00:34:40
It's been fantastic, and it's been kind of fun to watch them grow because we tried the soft.
00:34:46
I have a soccer and all the other spirits, but one of the reasons I'm kind of gravitated towards the Powerball story, which is great because living in Houston, you know, controlled environment.
00:34:57
You're a very nice thing to have when it's 115 degrees outside with humidity.
00:35:01
And but it's also beautiful in the sense that they don't have to promote.
00:35:06
There is no shadow being cast by having a baby, but they've done a very good job of creating their own Mitch inside of spirit.
00:35:13
But I didn't I'm not really moving.
00:35:15
I'm trying to learn every year, but I think it's created a great environment for me to be a family member, one which, of course, I'm always gonna be a fan of my kids.
00:35:23
But at the same time, it opens up and have an avenue of communication with me where I could go, you know, why are why are you rotating? Why did you go that position that wasn't moved on.
00:35:32
That set goes up, you know.
00:35:34
So it allows them to teach me a little bit about the game, and it makes it that much more entertaining for me because it becomes interactive with me, not even watching the game, and maybe that takes away the critique of the game.
00:35:46
But I get to be a fan and try and understand what they're going through the night on the court.
00:35:49
But ultimately, I'm just a dad having a great time watching my growth.
00:35:53
So cool.
00:35:54
All right, so the Astros sign sign stealing scandal has been the dominant story in baseball throughout the offseason.
00:35:59
The collateral damage results in three managers losing their job over it, though it didn't come as a revelation to many throughout the game, a scout from another team told The Washington Post.
00:36:10
It was a big, open secret, really big throughout baseball throughout the scouting community for several years, not just starting in 2017.
00:36:18
I would say probably 2016 maybe earlier through 2019 things were going on that we're blatantly against the rules.
00:36:26
That's a scout who didn't give his name, it was quoted in the Washington Post.
00:36:31
This is post.
00:36:33
Just make sure you get the source, right? Yes.
00:36:34
Watching them post.
00:36:35
Um, so you've been around the team for seven years? You've been the car ****yst for the period that the sign stealing allegedly happened? Um, was it something that you were even remotely aware of covering the team? Absolutely not.
00:36:51
And I know that that sounds crazy in the sense that breasts abdomen, Astra employees.
00:36:55
Yes, I travel with the team that once the game starts island 300 feet off the ground watching a baseball game and talking about what I see on the field that being said, I don't think there's, You know, I don't know if there's been enough insight into the inner workings of the front office of Houston ashes because we did have access to Jeff Lou now and some of the other guys were within the organization.
00:37:21
But knowing that I know for a fact that I've asked Jeff, you know, I didn't know it at the time because I was just starting my job.
00:37:27
But I asked for information about shifts, and that really said, Hey, do you have any information? I'm sure she can explain or help me explain to the crowd at home what you're doing while you're doing it, how you're doing it.
00:37:40
And he was very polite.
00:37:42
And you just said, You know, that is our information that we're about to keep to ourselves.
00:37:47
He goes, But you know, you said that you can use terminology.
00:37:52
You can use this or that.
00:37:54
And he pointed me fan graphs.
00:37:56
He pointed me with a couple other websites that kind of get a very good job of explaining shift.
00:38:00
So I wasn't necessarily given information with the organization.
00:38:05
Now, keep in mind, I am an astral employees my charges to make the Astros look good on the field and explain what they're doing.
00:38:11
And somebody internally said, No, we're not gonna give you that information.
00:38:14
So I wasn't privy to that information and having been a player, another third Tippi I met her brother, is when your secondary is you're trying to decode what's going on.
00:38:25
Far sequences? Um, no.
00:38:27
I'm watching the third base coach from another team to figure out if I can pick up when they're bunting or his hearing of running stealing.
00:38:33
I'm watching their pitching tourists to see if you're giving me signs that I can pick up on, but I had no idea that it was going to the extent it wasa.
00:38:43
I'm pretty much finding out like you are in a lot of fans of baseball.
00:38:46
We're finding out that there's a lot of these things that kind of Scotch stood up and it definitely got taken away way too far, and I'm just paying the consequence for But I had no idea and I didn't even know.
00:38:57
You know, I didn't Even I wasn't even thinking about asking the question, to be honest with you, because I didn't know the other part of the question.
00:39:05
Partners came out.
00:39:06
Not just what they were doing is they were a hated team among baseball that, for whatever reason, they were renegades.
00:39:11
People didn't like them.
00:39:12
Did you get any sense of that from either the Astros knowing this as they went about their business? We're from talking about? The Birdcage is being run other teams.
00:39:20
There was such a hated team in major league baseball.
00:39:23
No, not to that extent to being hated.
00:39:25
I mean everybody, you know, it's actually and I hate the Yankees.
00:39:28
Why do you think because you think you're good.
00:39:30
You know, you have a team that was better than you when I was insane.
00:39:34
Miracle.
00:39:35
We hated the Dodgers because the Dodgers were competing with them for first place.
00:39:39
So it's kind of hard.
00:39:40
You have to really define the word hate.
00:39:42
Yeah, but I don't I never saw those feet, but they're worlds, you know? Well, being totally honest, there was an air of arrogance and we're better than you because we we figured out how to make ****ytics work because they drafted so well because it develops so well because they've handled contract so well.
00:40:04
So the kind of big developed that attitude that they are above everybody else.
00:40:09
And I think that's where that hate mentality of other teams kind of came in.
00:40:14
From there, I said it was a little bit of arrogance saying, Hey, we figured it out because we've got some of the tenets of guys And then the guys would go out there and perform that apartment even tougher relationship for Jen's or starts around the league.
00:40:28
Listen, you know, being a Met fan and no team was hated around baseball more than that, you know, 86 Met team and the ****iness and fighting in every game.
00:40:37
I mean and but here in New York, we love them.
00:40:39
So So that begs the question.
00:40:41
You know, it calls into question around major League Baseball, their accomplishments in recent years.
00:40:46
100 plus victories in each of the last three seasons, the World Series in 2017 American League pennant a season ago, as a former player who watched this team day in and day out.
00:40:57
Hearing this like we all respect the player like up until now, OK? And we all.
00:41:03
I mean, when you said hated like I like Jose Altuve A you know, small little guy.
00:41:07
He remind me of like Wally Backman from the 86 getting the most out of his body.
00:41:11
And now, really, Now you take a step back and and you look at it, and in my eyes it diminishes what they accomplished in Houston.
00:41:22
You know, we're not there.
00:41:24
What do you think Astro Nation is thinking about their team now? Well, you know that.
00:41:30
You know, finance fans are fanatics, sometimes a rational, and I respect the fact that you are ruling this so that I allowed.
00:41:38
A lot of people are just completely blown off, but at the same time, you do have to appreciate what he's done with his stature.
00:41:44
I think this is a tube is one of the harder workers, and I were based on having been around that side of the Astros broke for the school earlier.
00:41:53
You know, I've got a podcast we recorded today, and I even said at the end of it, trying to his opens, I can.
00:42:00
You have every fan and baseball has every right to be skeptical Rebel.
00:42:04
That's goingto happen, moving forward.
00:42:06
And it's not until a loser out to pay for Alex Bregman or cars career or, you know, these guys go out and put up similar members before you go.
00:42:16
Okay, maybe these guys are as good as advertised, and a little sign stealing issue was just something that got out of sure because these guys had a lot of work to do to take that movie.
00:42:27
But you're talking about off of them.
00:42:29
But at the same time, you know you can't do a sorry time because I put that on themselves, right? And it calls into question.
00:42:36
You take a look at some of the splits and you see the home in a way sports is like and it could just be a coincidence.
00:42:41
And it's like, Oh, and then, like here in New York, we have J. D.
00:42:45
Davis and you take a look at you know what the Mets thought they were gonna get because of.
00:42:49
Maybe he was part of this.
00:42:51
But then he comes here and he puts up better numbers.
00:42:54
So it's really hard, you know? It's the same thing with the steroid era.
00:42:59
It's like, Did he might? Gaza was suspected, but there was no proof.
00:43:02
But then it still tarnishes his legacy.
00:43:04
It is. It's a mess.
00:43:06
What do you think? They have a sense, though, Especially having heard press carpet sweet what was facing them? Not what they have to prove, what they're going to see every time they come into a town for the first time this year.
00:43:20
Didn't get fully understand what that's all you're gonna be about.
00:43:24
Yeah.
00:43:25
I don't know how you can quantify that or even get prepared for, because you are exactly right.
00:43:29
I think what we're seeing on Twitter and social media is I'm hoping it's exaggerated because everybody is everybody's a keyboard warrior, so to speak on social media isn't going to be different when they get into stadiums.
00:43:45
But I know for a fact that it's really very similar.
00:43:48
I hope that it stays with the verbal assaults you know, to be expected that these guys are going to be in for some serious, uh, serious challenges moving forward.
00:44:01
And I think it's even gonna be challenging for us on broadcast because you knows well as I do being in the broadcast business, whether the radio or TV, there's Field Mike's, their microphones pick up a lot of energy as they come through.
00:44:16
The biker thoughts were obviously sitting in the booth, and we can feel, you know, rise intention that there is any in the game and I have a feeling that that tension when they roll into a city, that ballpark is going to be immediate.
00:44:30
And I'm really curious, just like you are.
00:44:34
How are they gonna handle it? Because as an opposing player coming into a stadium, let's say New York or shape, I remember Shake.
00:44:41
You have very fond memories of Shea Stadium having been an expo and coming up and playing in the national case, especially in the early 2000 when the Mets were so good in the, You know, the energy that comes out of that ball park when you walked out of that tunnel, you know, walking over Jimmy Hoffa or whoever was underneath that tunnel under there and you come out the top.
00:45:03
I mean, all of a sudden you knew you were in for a dogfight, not just because the Mets were so good, but because those stands were absolutely servant and they wanted to see you.
00:45:13
We're their, you know, their presence upon your opposing team.
00:45:17
And it's just gonna be that much exaggerated.
00:45:19
Now that you actually have a true villain in major league baseball, it's gonna be very interesting.
00:45:24
And it also doesn't help the matter that two of the two of the teams that field they got ripped off the most are two of the biggest markets in L.
00:45:32
A.
00:45:33
In New York.
00:45:34
Yeah, the fan base is a little more mellow, but the Bronx is unforgiving, planet mellow.
00:45:38
They are not, but this is very un l a like, but L A is a tow bar a word from Bobby Bania.
00:45:47
I'll show you the Bronx.
00:45:48
OK, so I think the Bronx will be a little less forgiving.
00:45:51
Liam, you have a question? Yeah, specifically about what Cody Ballenger said.
00:45:55
It's so rare that we hear an active player, really, in any sport, speak so candidly about a scandal this large in their sport.
00:46:04
I'm curious to hear what your thoughts were on what Cody Bellinger said against the Astros and then start to get into what? How career responded and Trevor Bauer today.
00:46:13
Also Trevor Bauer and allow.
00:46:15
But, I mean, you're talking about the reigning National League M v P going out and saying the things he said about the Astros appears here.
00:46:21
What you thought I am all for guys saying that they want to say, and I know that this is a unique situation that we're in right now, where you know, I I understand Cody's bitterness.
00:46:36
Happy.
00:46:37
I mean, I mean, it's it's similar to, you know, the Buffalo Bills in the NFL, where they got so many chances of the championship and never wanted.
00:46:45
And I kind of like that's where Cody Bellinger, and maybe some of the Dodgers a rat is where There We tried so hard to win a World Series championship.
00:46:54
We couldn't and we thought we lost, you know, in the sense of fair and square or whatever that may be.
00:47:00
And they didn't and now they found an outlet.
00:47:02
Now they picked off the scrap, but oh my gosh, maybe we got cheated out of something.
00:47:07
And he snapped.
00:47:09
And I got no problem with saying that My my problem with you and I have no, you know, we'll get the career, I'm sure.
00:47:16
So my problem is being an ex player and understanding how strong the Major League Baseball Players Association is, that's where I have the issue.
00:47:26
I cannot believe that this is out in the public, where these guys were actually calling each other out.
00:47:33
It's amusing to me because there's such a subtle berry in the opportunity of baseball players, where if you did have a problem, you would go to the guy or you will find a way to get in touch with this guy.
00:47:44
But because this is a two thing, I think that's where you're starting to hear some of these some of these quotes.
00:47:51
But I also feel that this ain't a social media.
00:47:54
You feel the need to say these things out loud, but I don't feel that it helps the cause by voicing your opinion opinion strongly and boom totally rather than others, as these guys are.
00:48:10
So then, do you feel like fires as a hero or a rat? As if I know I don't assume is either.
00:48:17
You know, it's an interesting situation, and it kind of goes back to major league baseball, which is a whole another can of worms.
00:48:25
You could spend another 35 minutes talking about because I played in the P D era and, you know, does suing the chief of the commissioner back. Man.
00:48:35
I said Doug and he overlooked the PDS because of the strike in 1994 and he saw the steroid era bring people back seats and became monetary.
00:48:45
And I said Now they're like all the steward they're ever gonna stop.
00:48:48
Still, did you know where is the real killer? Is one of the screaming the beers? But now the sport is healthy.
00:48:53
We want to get rid of that stain, and we're kind of in the same situation where major league baseball allowed technology with crude closer from the clubhouse, two to the tenors behind the bag out and eventually found its way into the bag out.
00:49:09
And I really like Major League Baseball is behind the curve on this situation, so you know, there's a lot of people to blame, but Major League baseball could have done a better job of limiting the opportunity for teams to go out there and find this avenue of sign stealing.
00:49:25
So that's an interesting part, too, about the fraternity that you bring up.
00:49:28
And I find it so interesting that so many players were talking because you would think that maybe they were, you know, trying to hide something down further down the line or, you know, just hedge their bets that the thing wouldn't come out further down the line.
00:49:40
So do you think that? Do you think it was specific? It's just a pencil **** stand.
00:49:48
I don't know if you should move wide in the sense that everybody had a camera and a monitor behind the dugout.
00:49:53
I don't think that was a wide thing.
00:49:55
I would like to think that there were some organizations that actually took the harbor brought Rob, Manfred said after the Yankees and Red Sox at their incident in trying to introduce technology to good bug out and the Astros.
00:50:10
Maybe in some of that evidence we talked about a little bit earlier, maybe said we're gonna be fine, we can do this.
00:50:15
We're gonna take it to the next level and we'll be fine.
00:50:18
And so it, man, it's just ugly.
00:50:22
But I don't think it was leaguewide.
00:50:23
Now that being said, I know darn well.
00:50:26
Like I spoke earlier that as a player in the organic environment of on field competition, you have trying to find every advance and mother to his dominant, too.
00:50:37
To broadcast their pardon, the pun broadcast their signs to little team and not make the adjustment.
00:50:43
I'm gonna abuse that.
00:50:44
I'm in a lot of teams around the league, even to this day.
00:50:47
Listen, we played my son, played travel ball.
00:50:50
I coached him for nine years, and one of the things were the players that weren't in the lineup.
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You know, your job is when you're sitting on the bench, you watch the third base coach and try and figure out what they hit and run.
00:51:02
Sign what their steel Sinus.
00:51:04
You know it's not technology, but that's part of baseball.
00:51:07
It's just you're right.
00:51:08
This went one step over the line, obviously.
00:51:10
But it's interesting because Carlos Beltran, who was hired by the Mets got fired in the aftermath of the investigation, is alleged to be the mastermind of the sign stealing based on an article in the athletic.
00:51:20
Beltran initially denied any knowledge of the Astros sign stealing the store in the athletic states that catcher Brian McCann asked him to stop.
00:51:27
Two members of the 2017 Astros told the athletic that Beltran basically steamrolled everybody.
00:51:34
At that point, he was one of the most accomplished individuals on the roster, someone who younger players and even a J hands were basically reluctant to cross seeing that dynamic of the play of the clubhouse close up the You see that as being accurate.
00:51:48
A lot of the guys you walk that back after the press conference when they went in the locker room and said that he was the most respected guy and they learned so much and he was the most stand up guy, so it really mixed messages being sent out there about Carlos at this point.
00:52:06
Yeah, I have a tough time with this one because I do respect Carlos Beltran, and I still do, And I have a hard time hearing that story about Carlos.
00:52:17
And it's not in the sense that it's in the sense that I've been in clubhouses where I was a rookie.
00:52:23
I was a young guy.
00:52:25
I was around veteran talent.
00:52:27
And, you know, these are grown men inside these clubhouses, and I'm not trying to disparage anybody who fell intimidated inside the ashes clubhouse to say this about Carlos.
00:52:38
But having been around Carlos and mother that people who know colors I have a hard time seeing and be the quote unquote godfather that says you're gonna you're gonna steal signs we're gonna bang the trash can do it now kind of thing, you know? And that being said, grown men can make their own decisions if you feel uncomfortable in this situation.
00:52:58
Welcome, Ray.
00:52:59
I mean, you don't even have to say, Hey, Carlos, I think this is a bad idea.
00:53:02
You could just don't believe the situation.
00:53:04
I'd be like, I'm not gonna be a guy that's gonna be around this.
00:53:07
You know there's plenty of other options now.
00:53:09
The other part going back to major league baseball in talking about the Carlos Beltran who got fired from his job before he could even start it.
00:53:17
The way that I read Rob Manfred's report about the signs feeling on the Houston Astros, it stated there was a leadership problem, and that, to me, meant administrators and coaching staff.
00:53:28
So okay, Jeff Lino and A J get named.
00:53:32
They get suspended, Alex Cora gets named, he's the bench coach, and the next line says players have immunity.
00:53:39
Why was Carlos Beltran's name even in the report? If he was a player at the time, I stupidly stay, have a very hard time understanding how they justify putting Carlos Beltran's name out there like that, and it closed, closed.
00:53:52
His name is covered up like every single other player on that roster.
00:53:57
Maybe we don't get to the point where this art of these articles were turning out, because it may be the sa***es you knows.
00:54:03
But I have a very hard time with Carlos Beltran being fired because he got named as a player when they players were to be on Mander.
00:54:12
Interesting And you know what? It's There's so many tentacles to this.
00:54:16
I think the reason why these players had immunity has to also do.
00:54:20
And you mentioned that the Major League Baseball Players Association, one of the strongest associations of all professional sports.
00:54:25
If Manford handed down suspensions, the players, I'm sure there would have been appeals, and it would being even a bigger mess.
00:54:31
And you're right.
00:54:32
You know, Beltran did the collateral damage, but he would not have been able to withstand the scrutiny here in New York.
00:54:39
Jeff, I really appreciate the extended time you gave us tonight.
00:54:42
Um, like I said, originally, we were having you on about your career and this propped up, so this was great timing.
00:54:49
Um, then when it first came up, you were flying and you were nice enough to reschedule.
00:54:53
So we really appreciate it.
00:54:54
And good luck in enjoying the volleyball.
00:54:57
And, you know, it's gonna be a challenging year for you as well.
00:55:00
I'm sure.
00:55:01
Um, so good luck in the hope to see you When, um you guys were in New York? I appreciate it a little tougher to hopefully.
00:55:08
Do you see all of you with the ballpark.
00:55:10
If you do get the ball park, make sure you say hi and thank you for doing something.
00:55:14
This was a phone interview, and I appreciate the research you did and the questions you asked.
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Did a great job.
00:55:20
Thanks so much.
00:55:21
Really appreciate.
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Do you think they gave him too much? No, I don't Actually, he logged 20 minutes a game toe average, so So that's pretty valuable.
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That said, they still have to go get a forward like I really was saying this morning, you have to get a defenseman before word.
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01:04:51
It's painfully obvious that he is not in their future.
01:04:54
Do you think he waves it and maybe goes with that cup with a team like the Avalanche? Like, you know, Bork did years ago.
01:05:00
Um or will he be a member of the Rangers next year? And on your table top dog again? No, I think he's gonna be a member of the Rangers on the table top hockey game.
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I do think the Rangers handled it poorly.
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On the way out by Manning, everybody was pushing him aside. Jeeter.
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It happened since I was a kid.
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If they would've traded him years ago.
01:05:41
Have you gotten a nice return? It didn't happen.
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Chris Kreider is one of those decisions.
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My factor into that, taking a look at this team and what they need to do.
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And obviously, you don't have to get under the cap if side and Crider tomorrow to an extension until training camp next year.
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That being said, how can you creatively sign him? Because now they have talks that they've opened up talks and they are trying to maybe get this done.
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What's the deadline of getting it done before they? Absolutely.
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Because the Rangers are known for never letting a guy walk without getting something for him.
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So way before the trail, I would say day before the trading deadline.
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Don't know a day or two before whether it's gonna happen and we'll act accordingly.
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I mean, I think White is gonna ask for you ever ask for eight? They won't give mate.
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I think he's gonna want seven, and I think he's not gonna budge it seven years term, and that's where the Rangers have to decide if it's worth it or not.
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I would have thought they'd have hammered out a long time ago.
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This is sort of a bad move by Jeff Gordon to see what you're going to get out of quality this year cause he doubled down and he lost.
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His card is having a great year.
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It could be a future captain for the team, so he's gotta.
01:07:04
He's holding all the cards, so we'll see how it works out.
01:07:08
But they could, you know, buyout Mark Stall next year.
01:07:12
I need that money for him and the Angelo case of capital of a few 1,000,000 bucks, too, So that's how you could do it.
01:07:19
But it's hard to have about a deal like eight days left.
01:07:23
When it's of this magnitude, it's very hard.
01:07:26
That was, Ah, tweet about a possible trade for the Rangers with the Panthers and involved Brady Schaefer, maybe Trocheck.
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I don't see that happening.
01:07:36
I don't think why the Panthers would do that.
01:07:38
What would that do? Capitalize? Are they even money war with the Rangers? Gained some cap relief or take on more? No, I think they'd be taken on more.
01:07:46
I think Trocheck is making a smidge war.
01:07:49
They could be very close so I mean cliches about four million, something like that.
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So I think they would take on a little bit.
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But the Rangers can take on Trocheck is the better player.
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There's no question I still like Brady share a lot as a player, but I just don't like the Rangers defensive system.
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I don't think they're forwards, get back enough and play defense.
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And so he has regressed.
01:08:09
But I think in a different situation, you know, he could get back to where we watch.
01:08:14
All right, Russ, next Sunday is gonna be very interesting when we speak to you, This will be right up against the deadline and and all those rumors will be fine.
01:08:20
So we'll speak to you next week.
01:08:21
We really appreciate it.
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What? What's more, more Astros? More fallout? We talked with Dr Bluhm about the reaction in California, and it's very un California like we talk about, literally, literally.
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You're supposed to, you know, sportsmanship and kids had to be good citizens and and fair play in all of that.
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Which teams did you coach the Mets, Dodgers and Dodgers Mets? And I think before the you know what Dangers, Ira and the and the Giants Giants.
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Let's talk about the changes at the top in the Knicks for a second.
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What do you see? Coming.
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You know, they bringing new people in.
01:12:48
They got rid of Steve Mills, which is a long time coming.
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What's gonna happen is the guy that bringing in gonna attract free agents.
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And what do you think that's gonna do for the coaching situation? Don't forget to mention what happened this week on first take.
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Sir hasn't for a long time the knee jerk reaction New York sports in New York sports media is to make any connection to Brody, then wagon over the Mets, because we're talking about a player agent suddenly thrust into a role running a team that's not who he is.
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What he is a completely different scenario is entirely.
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This is the guy who's welcome.
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That is incredibly happy to stay behind in the shadows and just doing business on the move.
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I know that the connections he has the coaches around the NBA things with them into the Knicks.
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We brought up ad nauseam every time.
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The coaching carousel fun again are the guys who are on um, who are on their roses list, the guys who has connections with.
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So I guess from that perspective, that sounds really heartened.
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Um, I it's too early to tell what he is.
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But to be honest, what other teams do we talk about the team president at all? Ever? No, no, just to a large degree going running routine has to sign off on it.
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Mills, the mother and model.
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Also, it's not burning when bandwagon in the model is the Lakers and the model two summers in terms of a president is everything is the heat with Pat Riley, who came in and show you Bob Myers.
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In terms of you have the agent turned in charge, you have the floor up returning to 18.
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That's worked incredibly well, and Golden State even necessarily Credit Myers with it.
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Um, obviously, rock loca was the Kobe drink.
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Um, I don't know how much you're willing to hear how much you really want to call it the Lakers success the Plunkett.
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But, um, this format has been worked in the N b A that under exceptional cir***stances under you know, this flash feathers and the fact that grass starting that ended up revolutionizing the great how often we're gonna hit that particles Or, you know, Toby in the Breakers on the Bond decided to be a writer.
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Now, you absurd cir***stances under which the best rice I don't know if that's gonna be happening with work.
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Odds are not, But that doesn't mean that this can't work, which is your room.
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That's more than enough for you.
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That's all the optimism you need at this point.
01:15:45
Well, that's what two other things to look at.
01:15:46
So you take a look at a team that supposedly shrank to build through the draft, and then a team wasn't able to get any of the free agents they seized.
01:15:54
So you have a pronoun interim coach.
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Actually, if you step back, look at the record has done a pretty good job when he's supposed to do, which is getting more out of the young players.
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Is he a gardener? Metal walkers? You want to bring in free agents? Does he have a chance of sticking around? He's done.
01:16:09
We're supposed to do, which is developed.
01:16:11
Youngtown.
01:16:12
Well, I mean, listen, developing the young talent.
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Um, you know, I say that was some hesitancy to know.
01:16:19
They're featuring a lot of the Veterans Weather Rivers to showcase them at the trade deadline or not.
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You know, you're seeing over paintings and running the point.
01:16:27
Since he's been healthy.
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He's, you know, a reasonably good job of it.
01:16:30
I don't want you taking that away from him.
01:16:31
Are you embarrassed? Hurt Kevin knocks and minutes have been infrequent.
01:16:35
Mitchell Robinson still has troubled issues that come on the bench of the start of games.
01:16:40
Um, we're still very fluid on those veteran more than you would expect for a team who is trying to build through the grass.
01:16:45
As you say, Mike Miller has done a good job.
01:16:48
Can.
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He still thinks we're absolutely as the head coach? Probably not.
01:16:52
It's almost a foregone conclusion, not just because of a piece that's dead, but more so because that not what this is.
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They got a developmental by and they think we're still trying to lure the big fish.
01:17:06
They still want the current.
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Any towns were being enjoy.
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Rest of prey kill red or not, he seen that they still wanna reel in the big fish in that same place.
01:17:14
So you and I, and every every pendant everybody in the media, every Nick say, could be screaming and talking about do it the right way.
01:17:22
Trust the process, go through the draft, the mixers in the free agent market with something to prove and wallets open.
01:17:30
So I ask you this question every All Star Game weekend, what is in your mind? The over under at this All Star Game, you're under total points Scored. Combined. Yes.
01:17:43
Uh, or under.
01:17:47
How? For? Over 300? Uh huh.
01:17:52
I'm gonna put it probably around 3 15 I think LeBron team is so stacked.
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And at some point, it's just gonna get away from him, and they start taking the foot off the bed a little bit.
01:18:02
It's a good number for sure.
01:18:03
All right.
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You see ah, tremendous array of people in the studio where well above the legal fire limit.
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Ryan the intern might be internal in house today.
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Really fun show.
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And you know we're going to give Liam the pleasure.
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We rotate this live read from week to week.
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Mike did it.
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Philip Rivers is escaping Southern California.
01:20:51
The breakup is official between Philip Rivers and the Chargers.
01:20:56
Where do we think Philip Rivers is gonna find a new home? Besides, obviously Florida, which has made very clear bravo so soft on the weed.
01:21:04
Great job there.
01:21:05
Thanks so much, You know.
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I know Philip Rivers.
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I think it was a mother that game that they're not getting in the way. The fire.
01:21:14
Good.
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Actually, I don't think he's going to get a little more than that.
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They were thinking that I wouldn't be surprised if this is it.
01:21:25
When were you guys? When you look at that that you don't see him being an example, you depose the flower.
01:21:31
That means after pushing the bad Gamble field Well, what? Where emotion will not stop federal a speech.
01:21:39
You're doing well with the Buccaneers, Jackson.
01:21:42
Smooth.
01:21:45
We're gonna travel with them and had a swift kick first.
01:21:48
Somebody else are we to question is this raises an interesting question.
01:21:55
There's an XFL out there.
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I don't know how much mint of Man.
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It's not gonna be like the old Wofl and they're gonna start, you know, throwing contract.
01:22:02
But what a guy like Philip Rivers be an attraction for an XFL team.
01:22:07
For Philip Rivers to now, I know it's a lot of wear and tear and coming off a season, it might not be, But even if he plays two or three weeks in the XFL to show other teams, they still has something.
01:22:18
Do you see the XFL is being that possibility for players to similar to what we have here with the Atlantic League with the docks.
01:22:25
Could he play two or three weeks at the end of the season? They had to show he still has it.
01:22:30
I just don't see that happen because it makes losing so ego and pride in its ability to stand in there ready to get your people stand and have that belief in yourself.
01:22:42
You're gonna make the right decision to lead to a good place to your team.
01:22:46
And I just think and looking at how seven effects in the broadcasting and the show has been okay and the level will get all that great man, you got that it hasn't been pretty seven games.
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I could see what you're saying.
01:23:01
Kind of like Reestablish yourself athletically does a fantastic job with that, although I think it's tuition animals that I don't think people would look at the XFL in that way.
01:23:10
That's a really interesting point that you brought about Philip Rivers, that you don't think any teams to take a nibble with.
01:23:15
That being said.
01:23:16
Obviously, Philip Rivers, is that the quarterback he waas, But is he a top 32 quarterback in the NFL? Yeah, possibly.
01:23:26
But I think it's very fair is a genius, I think, at this time, and you look at the way the NFL is kind of changing its way and asked if the athletic gotta be able to escape the packet, keep your eyes on a field and there's opportunity for him to do at this year.
01:23:39
And there was some of the worst quarterback performances in the league in 20 in the 2020 29.
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I just don't see it, man.
01:23:48
You want guys to be young, one of the people.
01:23:51
I just I don't I see more of an opportunity for a guy starting your number.
01:23:55
Quarterbacks maybe be drafted 2nd 3rd 4th giving them enough because they could make plays with their legs.
01:24:02
Philip Rivers has never been able to do them in the face from that.
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Anybody that's gonna be like that, you like Tom Brady s.
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So that means that he's gonna have a sense of wine and a game plan.
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He's been used to be a lot of independent, just not many teams out there like that.
01:24:17
That gets to one other possibility.
01:24:19
More so than an XFL tryout.
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You get to training camp.
01:24:23
We get to the last preseason game with next West Precinct accounts, and first string quarterback goes down.
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Oh, what? What do you think of the chances in that situation and that scenario that he could be Coast quote out of retirement for a one year filling for a team whose quarterback suffers an A C L injury in the third game of the preseason? And to piggyback on that question? And if that would ever happen, would Colin Kaepernick have ah, legal right to sue? The NFL has got picked up before he did not.
01:24:55
A fake cell becomes sick servers for the line.
01:24:58
You know, people think you're gonna be a whole single.
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So I don't think kind of happening didn't have any legs.
01:25:02
Stand there again.
01:25:04
I felt like the only thing that we owe Harvey, if that ever happens, where that policy now, when we ethically I agree.
01:25:15
So there was a better food with Jay Cutler.
01:25:17
It's gonna take that with visit.
01:25:19
So what has that much money open of the Sarah cats, or will they be able to give them the opportunity it could happen but I think it's well includes traits that make souls are when we go out for another young backup or something like that.
01:25:33
Phil, where were you? The option? What? We're talking quarterbacks, though.
01:25:37
Out there, one south of the freedom.
01:25:39
We talk about that mobile, but he has an injury history.
01:25:42
Where do you think Teddy Bridgewater ends up? I don't think that's one of the bigger miss numbers of people that would put it with the kind of guy he's wherever packet faster is probably one of the more pocket passer type credit back.
01:25:57
But I would be better for the first time.
01:25:59
A guy said that there was a story that that's gonna be an interesting decision.
01:26:03
Where there was like Carolina.
01:26:05
That's what I've been hearing a lot of years.
01:26:06
Southeast Looks like you're passing Move.
01:26:10
Can you really wanna go far? On paper? It's redder in Carolina has not changed for him, either.
01:26:17
It's a short term deal, kind of built the staff on their time.
01:26:20
If they're gonna go on baby a 34 years of ironic with Philip Rivers and Eli Manning, the way they're both going out.
01:26:29
The way we came very interesting.
01:26:32
My question is, Miles Garrett, like you know, you spend the suspect now is being reinstated.
01:26:39
What, you know what's going on with that? You do a suspension and do it.
01:26:44
And, you know, Are they worried about the players union? Why is he reinstated? I remember when the NFL, but was that really so? There's also what's that? Punishment comes down.
01:26:57
It's not really a very well booth past the number one overall.
01:27:05
Pick this guy, but you just keep springing this whole thing back up.
01:27:10
I have buddies are both from Cleveland and Pittsburgh, and they're saying on both sides Well, if all I get is telling the truth and why didn't come out right away, you know, the whole end dropping the N bomb that makes her adopted.
01:27:22
Tommy comes out saying, I thought everybody in Cleveland.
01:27:25
I didn't know anything about that.
01:27:26
So it's gonna be he said, she said, And it's just gonna unless there's where evidence kind of fall on deaf ears, whether it's true or not.
01:27:33
But he'll be back in bad hope.
01:27:36
Sue them for the Browns, No doubt.
01:27:38
All right, J.
01:27:39
Thanks so much retro with the just say L i dot com football reports.
01:27:43
Oh, really? Been a fun program, You guys, it zey I have to tell you, there's a great energy.
01:27:49
When is more youth in here? You counter balance a j coming way to bring the average age down.
01:27:57
So that's why Liam popped in here.
01:27:58
It was the life of the party.
01:27:59
I don't know what you're just as we go, let me just say if she's listening, But I know she's not that to say hello to Sophie Pearl Carter.
01:28:09
Nice, huh? Yeah, right now.
01:28:12
But at least we gained another listener than the road.
01:28:15
So listen, Liam, Thanks for popping in on.
01:28:18
You are an inspiration to our interns to see where this could go, which is cool.
01:28:23
I mean, some for interns have all gone on to some great places of really appreciate stopping by.
01:28:28
I just thank you for welcoming me, welcoming me back with open arms any time. All right.
01:28:32
We'll see everyone next week and be interesting week, NHL trade deadline.
01:28:37
So we'll see everyone next week.
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Have a good one.
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You know, I always looked at you as a grandfather, but now it's a real s.
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Welcome back.
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Because not only do we have Grandpa Carter in house, we also have the original.
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Is Simo actually 1/3? 1/3 our intern.
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But it was only in the terms.
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And when? And Liam is back.
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So welcome back.
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Liam was the longest tenured Inter.
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I think I know Ryan hasn't planted you now as the longest tendered intern.
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Wow.
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Congratulations.
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He, like you has also gotten the co host tag every so often that he's actually done solo with, you know, probably the earliest host of being an intern.
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Mike the intern.
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So I don't know.
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I think three interns if you're playing poker, three interns beat two old men any time.
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So we got three days to take the risk the night.
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I think he does so so late.
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Well, first of all, A J Congratulations on becoming a grandfather.
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And how does that feel? Uh, feels great.
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Feels great.
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It's It's it's great to go and see my son.
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My daughter lost, uh, you know, with the baby.
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And we're over excited.
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I was gonna say it doesn't make you feel old, but it doesn't make you feel older than dirt.
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It doesn't make me feel older because I have friends, and as you who are younger than me who being grandparents before.
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But that's true, right? So when you look at that, you say Okay, yeah, it's joining the club, but not the first.
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And you're already like past everyone else's club.
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I mean, you know, look, I'm the 1st 1 who essentially retired from his day job.
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That's all right.
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So, William just fill our audience in a little bit of what you've been doing since you've left us.
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Um, so I was a student university Maryland, for four years, so I was interning here a year and 1/2 star my junior year.
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My senior high school, um, made some trips back, but, um, since graduating college.
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I took a job at ESPN.
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I was a part of their production assistant program, their entry level program.
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I started in June 2018.
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I spent a year working on Ah, Night SportsCenter highlights.
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So I would cut anything from NASCAR racing to the top baseball game that night.
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NFL basketball W N B a college hoops, NHL, anything you name it.
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I I could've been on the run and given night.
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And for the last year, I've been working on the NFL.
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So awesome.
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And who would have thought when you were at Thea Komac eight school cafeteria asking the question of the week and editing it up it would lead toa NFL films and all the editing and ESPN.
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Unbelievable. Yeah, I mean it.
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Really.
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These were the building blocks, the foundation of where I am.
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This was the first internship I had.
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I love doing it.
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I'm back here for a reason, right? I mean, more than just a J b grandfather mas a lot, by the way.
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No, I love being here.
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I love talk with you guys.
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You guys know a lot more hockey than I do, but I'll pretend that I know that's what more you know, more hockey tonight.
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No, I'm surrounded by people who know more lucky than I do, and that's that's a little bit of working at ESPN.
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And it's okay, I promise you that. Jimmy. Petar.
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Probably awesome.
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We bring in our Major league Baseball beat reporter, John Carpenter heard here each and every week over 5:40 a.
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How you doing, Johnny? I just want to say that I thought Ted Danson was great in three interns into old men.
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Nice.
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All right, so we're gonna be talking a lot about the Astro scandal with their announcer right after you, so I'd rather touch on what I think.
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Listen, Rob Manfred has his cans full over and above what the perception is gonna be of the Astros toe float out.
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What I feel is the most prosperous.
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I can't even say it is pathetically trying to talk, you know, for the playoff format is just ridiculous.
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What do you have thoughts on? You know what? Baseball is a great game.
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It's been great for a long, long time of the wild card added something.
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But now to add another layer of playoffs.
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I just and then on top of it to make it a game show reality where the team with the best record gets to pick their opponents.
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Johnny, tell me what you feel about this Am I in the minority? And then we took the younger guys and see if they like it.
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You know, I don't think you're in the minority.
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I think people that want baseball are are begging forward to be left alone, and I'm on board with that.
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I can't put baseball for looking for new ways to keep themselves relevant, new ways to bring people in.
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The first thing I want I want to say is that if they think that a reality show component to this is gonna bring in the casual fan, I don't think it's gonna work.
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I think I always think that when they do stuff like this, when they think of stuff like this, they hack off the true fans and they never bring in as many off the casual fan's.
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They think so that's number one.
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The second thing is the wild cards at a component were more more teams are in it.
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Okay, So you create your creating drama with that wild card, that playoff spot between 85 87 winning teams.
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If you If you had two more teams than you could potentially be creating drama for that last playoff spot with an 80 win team or 79 win team on, then I think you make it too much like the N B A in the NHL.
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But the one thing I want it I want to say, is that if you create this, let's say you create this reality show component and you have it on Sunday night, right after the all the games happened.
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Three on that last day of the season you that you have off this reality show. Guess what.
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If you're dripping in Sunday night football number one and number two, you're totally gonna devalue the whole I do.
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You have a bad about end about starting every game at three o'clock? You're taking all the drama away from that, and you're putting it all in this reality show component that's going to go up against the football game.
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If I want to see Oh, I want to Reality TV.
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I'm gonna watch a reality show.
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I'm not going for baseball for that.
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So that's That's all I've got on that playoff on the playoff mess.
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Here's Here's my thought on this.
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What they're trying to baseball's trying desperately obvious to appeal to a younger audience.
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If you look at what basketball in particular, you have an All Star Games where you choose up sides.
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You have all of these things like that geared.
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What they think well will attract the quote.
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Younger audiences.
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I have three, the younger audience here to my right and is that something is going to do it by bringing in basically a school, your type of thing.
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True suit of sized.
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Choose who you want to play.
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I don't think one is I like about baseball.
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Is the playoffs are somewhat selective? It's not that everybody the bottom four teams gets in or half of lead gets in, and I see that bought.
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Looking ahead.
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I know I'm no marks, almost his old John.
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You know, you're not, you know you're not.
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Do they have to play to what they think is a much younger audience to bring in not just the casual fan, but the next generation events.
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I don't think this is it, but I sort of see where they're going.
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What's the Is there anything else they could do that would do that Short of something that I think, Many people, You know, long time baseball fans will consider a sacrilege.
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I have a solution if you want to bring in the younger fan.
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And if you want to keep the younger fan makes makes a make video off your sport more accessible on social media on Twitter on YouTube.
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Make it more share a bowl like the n ba has and lift your dumb blackout rules so that people in Iowa aren't blacked out from seeing five of 30 major league teams because Iowa is too close to all of them.
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01 more thing you want people around the country love baseball in all cities across the country? How about this? Maybe not eliminate 40 minor league teams and base and kill interest in baseball in smaller towns? Agreed it.
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See, I don't even think it's about appealing to the yard.
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I think, man, forget everything you know? I don't think so.
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I think what it is is that first of all, in this day and age where you know the younger audience are court cutters, right? They don't watch TV.
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The way we watch TV, however, the networks are starved for content.
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Now you're adding a the selection show, All right, B.
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Now you're adding another layer of playoffs, or even at the last game of the season games that matter.
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To see the potential playoff ramifications, just take a look at the playoffs.
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They're owned on TBS, TNT.
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You don't even know what station the playoffs are on any more because they go to the highest bidder.
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Tru TV.
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What you watch once a year during the price is right here.
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Let's see what you get the younger guys.
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What you what First of all, you guys for it and it round the playoffs or not.
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I I Ryan, mind expanding the teams that make the playoffs, but I don't like the element of picking your a point, and I think there could be like a pick your poison thing there that I, as a fan, wouldn't want to see my team.
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You know, I have to pick an opponent and then get bit in the you know what because they picked the wrong point.
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I mean, I know that that's a little like ***y, you know, have those kind of matchups meat.
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But I'm not in for Mike, um, one saying, Like as a Yankee fan, like I'm looking forward like Yankees being at the top of the league of the next few years.
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So, like, I don't like a true Yankee fan.
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But I don't want them to have to go into the playoffs and more pressure on themselves now picking their opponent rather than being the so called favorites to win it all.
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They have enough pressure going into it as like that.
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Then there's like it's just a minute.
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I think five teams is perfect.
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I think if you open the Gates Maur, you allow teams who don't try hard enough to get better to still make the playoffs.
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You're rewarding mediocrity by allowing seven and eight teams, and I think the five teams system that they have with one game wild card is perfect.
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It captures a little bit of that one game excitement that college basketball in the NFL has, which baseball's A sport doesn't really have anywhere at all, except for maybe a one game 1 63 which happens once every so often.
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It's not like the fact that you're gonna like it more.
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Interleague play has taken a lot of all of that out as well, because now you've seen all the teams within, like a three year period.
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So you know, I don't think they need to do this, But we'll talk more about it as they developed this plan a little more.
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John, thanks so much we always love.
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Speaking of John, Calm pitcher hurt here each member we Ah, the next segment should be interesting because Jeff Woman is their color announcer with the Astros.
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He's been announced a long time.
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A W and welcome back to 5 40 AM Sports talk John Carpenter, you know, reference the popular popular culture and called Tonight Show sort of like three interns into old men.
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Could have been, I'm thinking more of a full house.
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So, you know, if you're just tuning in, we're watching us in.
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The SportsCastr by the end of the show, may be grumpy old, you know.
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He's so right now resembles the Marx Brothers, a night at the opera where people just kept coming into the room.
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We are past Thea Fire Hazard.
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You know, we have A J and I a days back from Florida, he came back.
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A grandpa are old intern who's now at ESPN Liam in NFL films.
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Liam is in the house current two interns, right? And then Michael here.
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So everyone's here and it's Ah, it's good to see everybody.
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Joining us now is a man who enjoyed a 14 year career in the majors, wary about it to 50 99 home runs.
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He played over 1200 games in the majors, the majority of them with the Houston Astros as well as the Montreal Expos, Tampa Bay Devil Rays, San Diego Padres, Chicago White Sox, Arizona Diamondbacks May be one of his greatest moments in the majors.
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Came at the expense of the Astros is during his stint with the White Sox during the 2005 season, he faced the Astros in Houston's first ever world Siris.
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Coming off the bench, he came up in a pinch hitting role in the 14th inning of Game three, where he drove the home run over the right field fence for the game winner.
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He returns for his eighth season with the Astros TV broadcast team in 2020 his fourth as the everyday color ****yst for Astros telecast.
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It is a thrill to welcome Jeff form to Sports Talk New York. Welcome, Jeff.
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Great to be on.
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If I knew that that intro is gonna be as good as it was called in a long time ago.
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So you know, and it's interesting.
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You know, I wonder what we could possibly talk about, you know? But the beginning of spring training about the Astros, I mean, really.
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But before we talk about the Astros, let's talk a little bit about your career.
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Prior to high school, you had a pretty good Little League team mate for about 12 years and Mike Sweetie, who played 16 years in the majors.
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Both of your dad's actually coach together.
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I'm wondering, Did you guys ever lose a game? Well, yes, we did, amazingly enough, that we're always blamed it on the little Rory had to play everybody.
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Oh, wait.
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You know, my Mikey couldn't throw every inning, and I couldn't, uh, you know, I could get every at bat's.
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I mean, you rely on the team who were very good.
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We didn't lose too many when we did.
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It was kind of a shock to us.
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But we did pretty well when we were young out.
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We also.
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Oddly enough, we have Brian Roach and John Jacobs on those teams.
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Two and both.
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Those guys played at least a year in the NFL through Wow, that's a pretty good athletic team for short.
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So after an outstanding senior year at Highs High School for the Chino Cowboys, you're drafted.
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You batted for 89 leading the team in its doubles triples our B.
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I's drawing the attention of college scouts you chose to part of, except a partial scholarship to U.
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C.
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Of Berkeley.
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What went into that choice and what were some of the other options you had on the table and why u.
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C.
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Berkeley? I had options in seven California.
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Castro for turn was it was a team that was college.
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It was absolutely stop pretty good.
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And I was started his foes, uh, minor league baseball.
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But at the time, I was about six foot three and weighed about a buck 60 and I knew that physically, I wasn't gonna be ableto handle is first you have professional baseball, and I don't think memory and emotion that it was also enticed by the fact that my ****s were gonna give me an opportunity to go to a school like cow.
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You know how the night, you know, have my backup Plan B a degree from the University of California was moving at the time.
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I don't know why was that wise at that time? But I made the right choice, and going to school is one of the best things for me.
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And I love telling people that I went to call, eventually became a threat professional baseball player because I think in my position now, I probably wouldn't have such a great job after baseball if it wasn't for those years. I had a cow.
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Your coach.
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There was, ah, legend and Bob Milano, who retired after 99 season with the most career victories, 688 in the program's history.
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He became only the fourth person in cow baseball history to have his jersey retired.
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He was named Pac 10 coach of the Year twice, and ah, he mentored 12 all Americans.
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What did you take away from your time with Coach Milano.
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He was a perfect match up for me and kind of throws a couple of rolls.
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He was a great coach, but he was also that father figure in the sense that he's got the mature a little bit.
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Understand what it meant to become a scholar athlete, taking care of my grades and making enough time to go out there and practice and become a good ballplayer.
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But at the same time, he was an incredible judge of character in town because my first from years you implored me to go and switch it and literally threaten to take away my starship it if I didn't hit left handed.
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And you know, to this day, I think every time I see him, because if I hadn't learned how to sweatshirt, I wouldn't had the career or the opportunities that I've had moved.
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That's why I mean, that's kind of scary.
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I can't imagine like someone saying Listen and say, Wow, that's except this is at a much higher love.
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So how hard was it as a college kept with you to try and do this? That was incredibly hard.
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And you know the comparison of Division one based on two professional does.
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That was around the double eye level.
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So it's a pretty good dad.
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You know, it was incredibly freshening because the reason I remember ripping his office was after about 50 60 bats of killing Repp Tender, where I haven't gotten ahead.
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I was really over 50.
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And, you know, the tomb is kind of getting a sense that I was getting frustrated.
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I was a guaranteed out every time I stepped up to the box and I walked in his office and said, Hey, man, I'm getting frustrated.
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I got not only for me.
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My teammates are picking up my grab.
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Every time I go into the boxers in Norman and the evening and I go, I can't.
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I'm having a hard time, a person kind of game ultimatum.
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So you're gonna keep working our letter? I believe in you and, you know, here we are, 13 15 years in the Big Ridge and a pretty big home run that handed in my career.
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It's also I have to imagine you you talk about guys, whether it be hockey or baseball in the minor leagues, you know you're trying to get to the next level.
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Obviously, in college you're trying to get drafted by a team.
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Now you're going up there something that's totally foreign, learning it on the fly against really good competition and devaluing yourself as you know, when scouts are there.
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That's got that.
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I don't know how you deal with that pressure, but it obviously did work.
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You drafted by the Montreal Expos in the seventh round in the 94 amateur draft.
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That other team's contacted you.
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Did you have an inkling that you were gonna be picked by a team? Yes, they are.
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They're playing the scouts of the games, you know, being lucky enough to play in the packs of the Pac 12 Conference and playing Division one.
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You get a lot of exposure because the opposing team usually has some pretty good talent on it, too.
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So there were plenty of Scott in the stands and you have contact you take all the litmus test, you have conversations, and you know, of course, you get the conversation from everybody all you're gonna be picked in the 1st 10 rounds that you know, that's one of the 200 picks, almost 300 pictures of those, and you have an idea that you're gonna have the opportunity, But, uh, you know, back in back when I got drafted, you know, we didn't have cell phones, and the first would bond.
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I think there were 303 or four rounds in the first day, so I didn't I didn't get the phone call.
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Um, actually, I actually went toe, you know, typical mall rat.
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1930 1990 fashion.
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I went thio the ball with some friends.
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We came back.
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There was a message from about Who's the trash stick? Bill Sturm and from the Montreal excess and I have been drafted 1/7 round.
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So it was pretty clear to come home and realize that you have a ticket to go try and chase down that dream.
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And part of chasing down that dream is you spent time with the Expos organization.
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In the winter of 95 they sent you the Australian Baseball League with the Hunter Eagles.
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You were the one.
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You want a gold glove there, But what was your experience like and playing in that league? What a test on your homework.
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You guys have done an outstanding job I'm gonna give you that.
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But going off surely was amazing.
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I have no idea what we were in for.
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And, you know, you sure do great things about sure when they get there and it excuse every expectation on it was very Westernized, You know, they drive on the wrong side of the kind of thing was really awkward part about it, but the food was great.
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The people are even better than pretty sure soon to New Roses in America Plane when professional baseball, you're playing every day.
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Maybe remember after a week regal hopper and literally played four games and two days on Saturday and Sando, which were both doubleheaders on, back to back those.
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And then we had to take member completely off because there are only four Americans on every Australian team.
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So that meant that the rest of our team has filled up with guys who are working 9 to 5 shots Monday through Friday and only got the weekends off the play.
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And that was part of the most interesting thing.
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But we got to trial, though.
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I got to go to Perth Birds.
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BemaGold shouldn't Everyone was in a motion time.
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Absolutely loved everybody.
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So with guys having toe have day jobs, essentially most of the team, what was the quality? Apply? What was it like? You know, what would you equate? He said.
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College Division, One college ball you equate to double A What do you equate the level of ball on that? With so many basically semi pro players, it was right around the high ball.
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There wouldn't be a lower double a loon, but it was pretty competition.
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It was a time when that boat will send Grandma were prominent figures in the movie leaves for the Milwaukee Brewers in New York.
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So there were some critical point coming out of the country with Australia.
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But like you said, not being able to play on a daily basis, kind of having a crystalline about the weekends didn't really love itself to some incredibly high quality teams.
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But we went out the battle, had a great time with a new recruit with friendships, and it's all you know.
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It's more about the experiences going out there and you be, you know, on foreign soil, hang out with guys who were working 9 to 5.
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You know that green and they're believing in their eyes when they would talk to you about going back.
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You know, playing professional, those famous scopes.
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So it was kind of fun to absolute interact with those guys and understand that Billy to assume remove.
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Or even though they were a little bit further back behind us because we've access, we had Stokes.
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So aside from maybe developing Ah, love of Forster's what did you do Monday through Friday when you weren't playing games? Well, I learned quickly that Fosters is good.
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But Victoria bitter was right.
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Victoria.
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Yeah, no, because way told a TV.
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And the reason I learned about it is because me and my roommate, Pop Henry Way, had a couple of games where you two home runs in the game and we won't get the next day.
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Two cases of Victoria bitter outside our hotel room.
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That was kind of like our fight money, which was kind of interesting, eh? So they have the same thing.
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Eric Hillman told us when he played in Japan you would find fight money on your cell so they do the same thing over there as well. Interesting.
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We so I'm curious about baseball in Australia.
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we see baseball here in America, there's not quite as much emotion showing at least with little league level.
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In Latin America.
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It's very different.
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What was baseball like for the native Australians, necessarily on the field where you allow to show a lot of emotion, like what? What made the game a little bit different there than what we would find here in the States? The personality was really without going and it was kind of fun to move to watch.
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The really interacted with us, which was very professional and very business like.
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And when we released Americans that we played the game of every day, we had a little bit of passion with about flipping on really come into, Ah, reality yet where you try and no show one guy up, have a little show to it.
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But when the Australian you guys were facing Australian pictures of the picture, you're facing Australian hitters that stepped up a little bit and you could see that there was a little more incentive and those guys, if they did something good, they would let the other team notes.
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And so that was a lot of tender watch.
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But at the same time, the one thing that really was different about Australian baseball is that they played on rugby fields.
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So we would play into a shirt center and I made a deep left and right, or you play a short right here in a crazy deep left field.
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And so I was kind of entertaining in itself, trying to figure out what dimensions you're gonna play with on a day to day basis. Cool.
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So you make the climb up the major league ladder in the Expos system, where Terry Kennedy, Cuomo Hodge, Rick Sofield, Pat Kelly was some of your managers.
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Rondell White and Vlad Guerrero, some of your teammates.
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You mentioned how Coach Milano had an impact on you making you a switch hitter.
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Which coach manager, a player in the Expos farm system had the greatest impact on getting you to the majors.
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Man, that is a good question.
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Um, you know, I played my first manager was Terry Kennedy.
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And the interesting thing about Terry Kennedy was that separatist a giant when I was growing up in L. A.
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On with the obvious rivalry between the Giants and Dodgers and the California State, you know, I've got to know Terry can be pretty good just from watching it on TV and then to show up my first, my first minor league game and have a bigger manager like that.
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I'm putting my name on the night.
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It was pretty cool, and you have a lot of great things to say about the game.
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He loved the game of baseball.
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When I asked him several times that you do in the sport, you know, everybody was not exactly the place we would expect the next big thing, but he But he wanted to be around the game.
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One of the biggest remember and run 10 British merchant and help them understand how popular overseas owners and that they can do is make it get to the next level and continue to move on.
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But when I got the Triple A, Jeff Talks is my manager, who eventually became the third base coach for the Marlins.
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Carla White Socks.
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That play was probably a very, very It was an interesting job, so the least.
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But he was a very polarizing centers and probably give me the best advice I ever got my life, which was You've got no time and you, but I know it's hard to believe when you're watching the game, but it's definitely a bit, and it's actually something that, taken from the studio live where I can kind of.
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I will not let panic set in and kind of settle in and realize situation.
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Kind of evaluating.
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Still have plenty of time to make the play or make an appropriate decision.
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You have a connection.
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Veer Expo days to some of the Mets current staff as the Mets bets.
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Bench coach Hensley Meulens was a teammate of yours in the minors.
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Your first manager in the majors with Felipe Fellow, who is the current manager? Louise Rowhouses.
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Dad, what can you tell us about Hensley? And was Louise around the team, much as a young adult when you were with the Expos and what you remember about him if he was around? Uh, to be honest, I don't remember we recently about much of all.
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Everything I appeared is, you know, through word of mouth or through an article or watching on TV, and just keep absorbing some of the information now that everything that is great that you anything like his father or you know, it would be a loose, for that matter, if you're anything like them.
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He was gonna do a great job in New York match because there was a certain there's a certain passion and a certain understanding of the game, but I think it's Richmond meant that the d N A.
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But the rooms have because, you know, I played against nervous salute, a great deal, and I got to know him a little bit, just as an opposing player and a phenomenal human beings to Ruth and Lou.
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I give him a lot of credit for my career, you know, allowing it to blossom the way it did because, you know, I wasn't the smaller Ladn more typical shortstop.
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When I came up, I was a gigantic human being that sits for three, and he allowed me the opportunity to play some shortstop.
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Resinous.
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Quick is the Orlando Cabrera's who was there before me, and he let me go out there and play and learn, and he continues the matter.
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I would hope before you would come in and go are The noises are rougher do, but I'm gonna put your bag out there.
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You got after you kind of Toby, you gotta figure this thing out.
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We allow me the time to go do that, which was great.
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So I applaud him on that.
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But it's a great It's a great legacy that they're continuing.
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And I'm actually very appreciate that Major League baseball and the New York Mets of living Lisa Ross.
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An opportunity? Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing him.
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He was actually I guess I've been around the team and saw him when he was that quality control guy.
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And I just love the way interacted.
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And I was always pushing for him.
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I'm, you know, the cir***stances that led to the job, but at least he finally got it.
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We got two more questions for you about your playing career before we get on.
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And honestly, when I attacked you a long time ago was about having you on about your playing career.
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What's gone on afterwards is is different.
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So what, we're gonna get to that? So, um, you make your major league debut? Um, august 9th, 1999 against the Padres.
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Um, what do you remember about that day, and how special was it? I remember everything.
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So you know that dream realized something will never forget.
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And, you know, it may have been in Montreal in front of 7000 fans, but it could have been £85,000 for all I knew.
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As excited as that Waas And you know, another credited to repair Lou.
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I got called back on August 8th and they put me in a line of pockets.
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So no, you didn't waste any time and just said You're gonna get out there and play shirts that were exposed And one of the things I remember vividly First at bat against Mac Roman, he struck me out on a breaking ball and I remember walking back to the dugout with a big old grill, my face going mad.
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I'm now, like, officially on baseball reference.
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I have a staff Avenger League and moving is gonna take that away from me.
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And then I I pursued to go to four.
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I played it, you know, I was across the diamond from 20 grand to really to lose earlier, got his 3000.
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So I was just a couple of days away from history, and I really remember trying not to be a fan in the moment and watching 20 going to get, you know, watching with the partners were doing and then focusing on my game.
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But it was truly one of the greatest things that happened.
00:32:40
My baseball career is being able to get called up but actually produced and contribute to a win and we can talk about it.
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S So we mentioned in the intro, that pinch hit home run in the 14th inning of Game three of the World Siris was that hit and then the culmination, eventually winning the world Siris The highlight of your playing career? Yes, absolutely.
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And e love the fact that you know you talk to guys like Mike Trout and some of these all stars in these eaten over the super ****am talented stars that even with the moons of dollars they have, even with the M V P Trophy, is that these guys want to have that legacy of being in World Series champion.
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And I was fortunate enough to be in a situation with a ball club, you know, I got traded at the deadline that year.
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It was a crazy year.
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I went from a first place team and the Padres to a first place team in the Chicago White Sox and for 21 days in the playoffs.
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I just sat there cheering on our guys until I have that one magic moment in Game three of the groceries where I actually had an opportunity to have an impact.
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And fortunately, the picture Mrs.
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Pitch by Good Mrs stopped by a good foot.
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Behalf and I I had the laser out of Minute Maid Park and the rest is history, so to speak.
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But, man, yeah, that's one of the definitely the highlight of my career is being able to hit a home run, contribute within two.
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Eventually, put that ring on that, those guys No.
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Five.
00:34:09
So before we get to the elephant in the room, which is the astronaut, one more personal question about you 2005 was interesting if you also nuts because of the home run, but for a family situation.
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So you ended up becoming the father first, yet adore them.
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Father of triplets in addition, and now they're volleyball players.
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So what's it been like to watch your daughter's developed as athletes, but invaluable a sport that you're not necessarily that familiar? with.
00:34:33
Yeah, if I was not standing here, my daughters were born and, uh, going remember women groceries.
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It's been fantastic, and it's been kind of fun to watch them grow because we tried the soft.
00:34:46
I have a soccer and all the other spirits, but one of the reasons I'm kind of gravitated towards the Powerball story, which is great because living in Houston, you know, controlled environment.
00:34:57
You're a very nice thing to have when it's 115 degrees outside with humidity.
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And but it's also beautiful in the sense that they don't have to promote.
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There is no shadow being cast by having a baby, but they've done a very good job of creating their own Mitch inside of spirit.
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But I didn't I'm not really moving.
00:35:15
I'm trying to learn every year, but I think it's created a great environment for me to be a family member, one which, of course, I'm always gonna be a fan of my kids.
00:35:23
But at the same time, it opens up and have an avenue of communication with me where I could go, you know, why are why are you rotating? Why did you go that position that wasn't moved on.
00:35:32
That set goes up, you know.
00:35:34
So it allows them to teach me a little bit about the game, and it makes it that much more entertaining for me because it becomes interactive with me, not even watching the game, and maybe that takes away the critique of the game.
00:35:46
But I get to be a fan and try and understand what they're going through the night on the court.
00:35:49
But ultimately, I'm just a dad having a great time watching my growth.
00:35:53
So cool.
00:35:54
All right, so the Astros sign sign stealing scandal has been the dominant story in baseball throughout the offseason.
00:35:59
The collateral damage results in three managers losing their job over it, though it didn't come as a revelation to many throughout the game, a scout from another team told The Washington Post.
00:36:10
It was a big, open secret, really big throughout baseball throughout the scouting community for several years, not just starting in 2017.
00:36:18
I would say probably 2016 maybe earlier through 2019 things were going on that we're blatantly against the rules.
00:36:26
That's a scout who didn't give his name, it was quoted in the Washington Post.
00:36:31
This is post.
00:36:33
Just make sure you get the source, right? Yes.
00:36:34
Watching them post.
00:36:35
Um, so you've been around the team for seven years? You've been the car ****yst for the period that the sign stealing allegedly happened? Um, was it something that you were even remotely aware of covering the team? Absolutely not.
00:36:51
And I know that that sounds crazy in the sense that breasts abdomen, Astra employees.
00:36:55
Yes, I travel with the team that once the game starts island 300 feet off the ground watching a baseball game and talking about what I see on the field that being said, I don't think there's, You know, I don't know if there's been enough insight into the inner workings of the front office of Houston ashes because we did have access to Jeff Lou now and some of the other guys were within the organization.
00:37:21
But knowing that I know for a fact that I've asked Jeff, you know, I didn't know it at the time because I was just starting my job.
00:37:27
But I asked for information about shifts, and that really said, Hey, do you have any information? I'm sure she can explain or help me explain to the crowd at home what you're doing while you're doing it, how you're doing it.
00:37:40
And he was very polite.
00:37:42
And you just said, You know, that is our information that we're about to keep to ourselves.
00:37:47
He goes, But you know, you said that you can use terminology.
00:37:52
You can use this or that.
00:37:54
And he pointed me fan graphs.
00:37:56
He pointed me with a couple other websites that kind of get a very good job of explaining shift.
00:38:00
So I wasn't necessarily given information with the organization.
00:38:05
Now, keep in mind, I am an astral employees my charges to make the Astros look good on the field and explain what they're doing.
00:38:11
And somebody internally said, No, we're not gonna give you that information.
00:38:14
So I wasn't privy to that information and having been a player, another third Tippi I met her brother, is when your secondary is you're trying to decode what's going on.
00:38:25
Far sequences? Um, no.
00:38:27
I'm watching the third base coach from another team to figure out if I can pick up when they're bunting or his hearing of running stealing.
00:38:33
I'm watching their pitching tourists to see if you're giving me signs that I can pick up on, but I had no idea that it was going to the extent it wasa.
00:38:43
I'm pretty much finding out like you are in a lot of fans of baseball.
00:38:46
We're finding out that there's a lot of these things that kind of Scotch stood up and it definitely got taken away way too far, and I'm just paying the consequence for But I had no idea and I didn't even know.
00:38:57
You know, I didn't Even I wasn't even thinking about asking the question, to be honest with you, because I didn't know the other part of the question.
00:39:05
Partners came out.
00:39:06
Not just what they were doing is they were a hated team among baseball that, for whatever reason, they were renegades.
00:39:11
People didn't like them.
00:39:12
Did you get any sense of that from either the Astros knowing this as they went about their business? We're from talking about? The Birdcage is being run other teams.
00:39:20
There was such a hated team in major league baseball.
00:39:23
No, not to that extent to being hated.
00:39:25
I mean everybody, you know, it's actually and I hate the Yankees.
00:39:28
Why do you think because you think you're good.
00:39:30
You know, you have a team that was better than you when I was insane.
00:39:34
Miracle.
00:39:35
We hated the Dodgers because the Dodgers were competing with them for first place.
00:39:39
So it's kind of hard.
00:39:40
You have to really define the word hate.
00:39:42
Yeah, but I don't I never saw those feet, but they're worlds, you know? Well, being totally honest, there was an air of arrogance and we're better than you because we we figured out how to make ****ytics work because they drafted so well because it develops so well because they've handled contract so well.
00:40:04
So the kind of big developed that attitude that they are above everybody else.
00:40:09
And I think that's where that hate mentality of other teams kind of came in.
00:40:14
From there, I said it was a little bit of arrogance saying, Hey, we figured it out because we've got some of the tenets of guys And then the guys would go out there and perform that apartment even tougher relationship for Jen's or starts around the league.
00:40:28
Listen, you know, being a Met fan and no team was hated around baseball more than that, you know, 86 Met team and the ****iness and fighting in every game.
00:40:37
I mean and but here in New York, we love them.
00:40:39
So So that begs the question.
00:40:41
You know, it calls into question around major League Baseball, their accomplishments in recent years.
00:40:46
100 plus victories in each of the last three seasons, the World Series in 2017 American League pennant a season ago, as a former player who watched this team day in and day out.
00:40:57
Hearing this like we all respect the player like up until now, OK? And we all.
00:41:03
I mean, when you said hated like I like Jose Altuve A you know, small little guy.
00:41:07
He remind me of like Wally Backman from the 86 getting the most out of his body.
00:41:11
And now, really, Now you take a step back and and you look at it, and in my eyes it diminishes what they accomplished in Houston.
00:41:22
You know, we're not there.
00:41:24
What do you think Astro Nation is thinking about their team now? Well, you know that.
00:41:30
You know, finance fans are fanatics, sometimes a rational, and I respect the fact that you are ruling this so that I allowed.
00:41:38
A lot of people are just completely blown off, but at the same time, you do have to appreciate what he's done with his stature.
00:41:44
I think this is a tube is one of the harder workers, and I were based on having been around that side of the Astros broke for the school earlier.
00:41:53
You know, I've got a podcast we recorded today, and I even said at the end of it, trying to his opens, I can.
00:42:00
You have every fan and baseball has every right to be skeptical Rebel.
00:42:04
That's goingto happen, moving forward.
00:42:06
And it's not until a loser out to pay for Alex Bregman or cars career or, you know, these guys go out and put up similar members before you go.
00:42:16
Okay, maybe these guys are as good as advertised, and a little sign stealing issue was just something that got out of sure because these guys had a lot of work to do to take that movie.
00:42:27
But you're talking about off of them.
00:42:29
But at the same time, you know you can't do a sorry time because I put that on themselves, right? And it calls into question.
00:42:36
You take a look at some of the splits and you see the home in a way sports is like and it could just be a coincidence.
00:42:41
And it's like, Oh, and then, like here in New York, we have J. D.
00:42:45
Davis and you take a look at you know what the Mets thought they were gonna get because of.
00:42:49
Maybe he was part of this.
00:42:51
But then he comes here and he puts up better numbers.
00:42:54
So it's really hard, you know? It's the same thing with the steroid era.
00:42:59
It's like, Did he might? Gaza was suspected, but there was no proof.
00:43:02
But then it still tarnishes his legacy.
00:43:04
It is. It's a mess.
00:43:06
What do you think? They have a sense, though, Especially having heard press carpet sweet what was facing them? Not what they have to prove, what they're going to see every time they come into a town for the first time this year.
00:43:20
Didn't get fully understand what that's all you're gonna be about.
00:43:24
Yeah.
00:43:25
I don't know how you can quantify that or even get prepared for, because you are exactly right.
00:43:29
I think what we're seeing on Twitter and social media is I'm hoping it's exaggerated because everybody is everybody's a keyboard warrior, so to speak on social media isn't going to be different when they get into stadiums.
00:43:45
But I know for a fact that it's really very similar.
00:43:48
I hope that it stays with the verbal assaults you know, to be expected that these guys are going to be in for some serious, uh, serious challenges moving forward.
00:44:01
And I think it's even gonna be challenging for us on broadcast because you knows well as I do being in the broadcast business, whether the radio or TV, there's Field Mike's, their microphones pick up a lot of energy as they come through.
00:44:16
The biker thoughts were obviously sitting in the booth, and we can feel, you know, rise intention that there is any in the game and I have a feeling that that tension when they roll into a city, that ballpark is going to be immediate.
00:44:30
And I'm really curious, just like you are.
00:44:34
How are they gonna handle it? Because as an opposing player coming into a stadium, let's say New York or shape, I remember Shake.
00:44:41
You have very fond memories of Shea Stadium having been an expo and coming up and playing in the national case, especially in the early 2000 when the Mets were so good in the, You know, the energy that comes out of that ball park when you walked out of that tunnel, you know, walking over Jimmy Hoffa or whoever was underneath that tunnel under there and you come out the top.
00:45:03
I mean, all of a sudden you knew you were in for a dogfight, not just because the Mets were so good, but because those stands were absolutely servant and they wanted to see you.
00:45:13
We're their, you know, their presence upon your opposing team.
00:45:17
And it's just gonna be that much exaggerated.
00:45:19
Now that you actually have a true villain in major league baseball, it's gonna be very interesting.
00:45:24
And it also doesn't help the matter that two of the two of the teams that field they got ripped off the most are two of the biggest markets in L.
00:45:32
A.
00:45:33
In New York.
00:45:34
Yeah, the fan base is a little more mellow, but the Bronx is unforgiving, planet mellow.
00:45:38
They are not, but this is very un l a like, but L A is a tow bar a word from Bobby Bania.
00:45:47
I'll show you the Bronx.
00:45:48
OK, so I think the Bronx will be a little less forgiving.
00:45:51
Liam, you have a question? Yeah, specifically about what Cody Ballenger said.
00:45:55
It's so rare that we hear an active player, really, in any sport, speak so candidly about a scandal this large in their sport.
00:46:04
I'm curious to hear what your thoughts were on what Cody Bellinger said against the Astros and then start to get into what? How career responded and Trevor Bauer today.
00:46:13
Also Trevor Bauer and allow.
00:46:15
But, I mean, you're talking about the reigning National League M v P going out and saying the things he said about the Astros appears here.
00:46:21
What you thought I am all for guys saying that they want to say, and I know that this is a unique situation that we're in right now, where you know, I I understand Cody's bitterness.
00:46:36
Happy.
00:46:37
I mean, I mean, it's it's similar to, you know, the Buffalo Bills in the NFL, where they got so many chances of the championship and never wanted.
00:46:45
And I kind of like that's where Cody Bellinger, and maybe some of the Dodgers a rat is where There We tried so hard to win a World Series championship.
00:46:54
We couldn't and we thought we lost, you know, in the sense of fair and square or whatever that may be.
00:47:00
And they didn't and now they found an outlet.
00:47:02
Now they picked off the scrap, but oh my gosh, maybe we got cheated out of something.
00:47:07
And he snapped.
00:47:09
And I got no problem with saying that My my problem with you and I have no, you know, we'll get the career, I'm sure.
00:47:16
So my problem is being an ex player and understanding how strong the Major League Baseball Players Association is, that's where I have the issue.
00:47:26
I cannot believe that this is out in the public, where these guys were actually calling each other out.
00:47:33
It's amusing to me because there's such a subtle berry in the opportunity of baseball players, where if you did have a problem, you would go to the guy or you will find a way to get in touch with this guy.
00:47:44
But because this is a two thing, I think that's where you're starting to hear some of these some of these quotes.
00:47:51
But I also feel that this ain't a social media.
00:47:54
You feel the need to say these things out loud, but I don't feel that it helps the cause by voicing your opinion opinion strongly and boom totally rather than others, as these guys are.
00:48:10
So then, do you feel like fires as a hero or a rat? As if I know I don't assume is either.
00:48:17
You know, it's an interesting situation, and it kind of goes back to major league baseball, which is a whole another can of worms.
00:48:25
You could spend another 35 minutes talking about because I played in the P D era and, you know, does suing the chief of the commissioner back. Man.
00:48:35
I said Doug and he overlooked the PDS because of the strike in 1994 and he saw the steroid era bring people back seats and became monetary.
00:48:45
And I said Now they're like all the steward they're ever gonna stop.
00:48:48
Still, did you know where is the real killer? Is one of the screaming the beers? But now the sport is healthy.
00:48:53
We want to get rid of that stain, and we're kind of in the same situation where major league baseball allowed technology with crude closer from the clubhouse, two to the tenors behind the bag out and eventually found its way into the bag out.
00:49:09
And I really like Major League Baseball is behind the curve on this situation, so you know, there's a lot of people to blame, but Major League baseball could have done a better job of limiting the opportunity for teams to go out there and find this avenue of sign stealing.
00:49:25
So that's an interesting part, too, about the fraternity that you bring up.
00:49:28
And I find it so interesting that so many players were talking because you would think that maybe they were, you know, trying to hide something down further down the line or, you know, just hedge their bets that the thing wouldn't come out further down the line.
00:49:40
So do you think that? Do you think it was specific? It's just a pencil **** stand.
00:49:48
I don't know if you should move wide in the sense that everybody had a camera and a monitor behind the dugout.
00:49:53
I don't think that was a wide thing.
00:49:55
I would like to think that there were some organizations that actually took the harbor brought Rob, Manfred said after the Yankees and Red Sox at their incident in trying to introduce technology to good bug out and the Astros.
00:50:10
Maybe in some of that evidence we talked about a little bit earlier, maybe said we're gonna be fine, we can do this.
00:50:15
We're gonna take it to the next level and we'll be fine.
00:50:18
And so it, man, it's just ugly.
00:50:22
But I don't think it was leaguewide.
00:50:23
Now that being said, I know darn well.
00:50:26
Like I spoke earlier that as a player in the organic environment of on field competition, you have trying to find every advance and mother to his dominant, too.
00:50:37
To broadcast their pardon, the pun broadcast their signs to little team and not make the adjustment.
00:50:43
I'm gonna abuse that.
00:50:44
I'm in a lot of teams around the league, even to this day.
00:50:47
Listen, we played my son, played travel ball.
00:50:50
I coached him for nine years, and one of the things were the players that weren't in the lineup.
00:50:57
You know, your job is when you're sitting on the bench, you watch the third base coach and try and figure out what they hit and run.
00:51:02
Sign what their steel Sinus.
00:51:04
You know it's not technology, but that's part of baseball.
00:51:07
It's just you're right.
00:51:08
This went one step over the line, obviously.
00:51:10
But it's interesting because Carlos Beltran, who was hired by the Mets got fired in the aftermath of the investigation, is alleged to be the mastermind of the sign stealing based on an article in the athletic.
00:51:20
Beltran initially denied any knowledge of the Astros sign stealing the store in the athletic states that catcher Brian McCann asked him to stop.
00:51:27
Two members of the 2017 Astros told the athletic that Beltran basically steamrolled everybody.
00:51:34
At that point, he was one of the most accomplished individuals on the roster, someone who younger players and even a J hands were basically reluctant to cross seeing that dynamic of the play of the clubhouse close up the You see that as being accurate.
00:51:48
A lot of the guys you walk that back after the press conference when they went in the locker room and said that he was the most respected guy and they learned so much and he was the most stand up guy, so it really mixed messages being sent out there about Carlos at this point.
00:52:06
Yeah, I have a tough time with this one because I do respect Carlos Beltran, and I still do, And I have a hard time hearing that story about Carlos.
00:52:17
And it's not in the sense that it's in the sense that I've been in clubhouses where I was a rookie.
00:52:23
I was a young guy.
00:52:25
I was around veteran talent.
00:52:27
And, you know, these are grown men inside these clubhouses, and I'm not trying to disparage anybody who fell intimidated inside the ashes clubhouse to say this about Carlos.
00:52:38
But having been around Carlos and mother that people who know colors I have a hard time seeing and be the quote unquote godfather that says you're gonna you're gonna steal signs we're gonna bang the trash can do it now kind of thing, you know? And that being said, grown men can make their own decisions if you feel uncomfortable in this situation.
00:52:58
Welcome, Ray.
00:52:59
I mean, you don't even have to say, Hey, Carlos, I think this is a bad idea.
00:53:02
You could just don't believe the situation.
00:53:04
I'd be like, I'm not gonna be a guy that's gonna be around this.
00:53:07
You know there's plenty of other options now.
00:53:09
The other part going back to major league baseball in talking about the Carlos Beltran who got fired from his job before he could even start it.
00:53:17
The way that I read Rob Manfred's report about the signs feeling on the Houston Astros, it stated there was a leadership problem, and that, to me, meant administrators and coaching staff.
00:53:28
So okay, Jeff Lino and A J get named.
00:53:32
They get suspended, Alex Cora gets named, he's the bench coach, and the next line says players have immunity.
00:53:39
Why was Carlos Beltran's name even in the report? If he was a player at the time, I stupidly stay, have a very hard time understanding how they justify putting Carlos Beltran's name out there like that, and it closed, closed.
00:53:52
His name is covered up like every single other player on that roster.
00:53:57
Maybe we don't get to the point where this art of these articles were turning out, because it may be the sa***es you knows.
00:54:03
But I have a very hard time with Carlos Beltran being fired because he got named as a player when they players were to be on Mander.
00:54:12
Interesting And you know what? It's There's so many tentacles to this.
00:54:16
I think the reason why these players had immunity has to also do.
00:54:20
And you mentioned that the Major League Baseball Players Association, one of the strongest associations of all professional sports.
00:54:25
If Manford handed down suspensions, the players, I'm sure there would have been appeals, and it would being even a bigger mess.
00:54:31
And you're right.
00:54:32
You know, Beltran did the collateral damage, but he would not have been able to withstand the scrutiny here in New York.
00:54:39
Jeff, I really appreciate the extended time you gave us tonight.
00:54:42
Um, like I said, originally, we were having you on about your career and this propped up, so this was great timing.
00:54:49
Um, then when it first came up, you were flying and you were nice enough to reschedule.
00:54:53
So we really appreciate it.
00:54:54
And good luck in enjoying the volleyball.
00:54:57
And, you know, it's gonna be a challenging year for you as well.
00:55:00
I'm sure.
00:55:01
Um, so good luck in the hope to see you When, um you guys were in New York? I appreciate it a little tougher to hopefully.
00:55:08
Do you see all of you with the ballpark.
00:55:10
If you do get the ball park, make sure you say hi and thank you for doing something.
00:55:14
This was a phone interview, and I appreciate the research you did and the questions you asked.
00:55:19
Did a great job.
00:55:20
Thanks so much.
00:55:21
Really appreciate.
00:55:22
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So if you were putting together a table top hockey game and putting ah, starting five, not the goalie for the New York Islanders.
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Would their newly acquired ah player beyond that? Five? Uh, no, But But I will be on the second pair so he'd be in the next the next.
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It's interesting because I love the fans have complained that, you know their team doesn't do anything.
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Their team doesn't do anything.
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They go out and do this and social media, which is not a great gauged by any means, but they're saying they gave up too much.
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Do you think they gave up too much randomly? Who is, Ah, leadership type guy who will be a good guy, not only on the ice, but in the locker room? And you also said that the injury to tell it was a big injury.
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This now no safeguards against that.
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Do you think they gave him too much? No, I don't Actually, he logged 20 minutes a game toe average, so So that's pretty valuable.
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Two years, a little bit offense.
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Still, he hasn't memory anything he does.
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He doesn't even strike fear to get power, play time or anything.
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When you give up a 2021 2nd it takes this thing out of it for me because I already know how good distract is.
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I know what you go 45 deeper, more with really good players.
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So the calendars know that, too.
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And basically, that's why they made it a 2021.
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That's why you're not gonna see a lot of 2020 picks getting dealt.
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So the fact that that was sort of hand picked to be a 2021 moving more powerful for me, I'm sure it made it more palatable for them. All.
01:04:22
That said, they still have to go get a forward like I really was saying this morning, you have to get a defenseman before word.
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Now I will check off defense room, but they stopped to get a forward, uh, staying with the SoHo tabletop hockey theme.
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If you were getting a bunch of Ranger players, would Henrik Lundquist be one of those players after the trading deadline or next season in a Ranger uniform? Or do you think he might go someplace and realize that the writing is on the wall, however poorly? The Rangers might have handled this, but he is not.
01:04:51
It's painfully obvious that he is not in their future.
01:04:54
Do you think he waves it and maybe goes with that cup with a team like the Avalanche? Like, you know, Bork did years ago.
01:05:00
Um or will he be a member of the Rangers next year? And on your table top dog again? No, I think he's gonna be a member of the Rangers on the table top hockey game.
01:05:09
I think all three are likely to be members of the Rangers when the season starts.
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Unless some team get very desperate and meet Gordon's price for your gift.
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I don't think Congress is gonna go anywhere.
01:05:20
I do think the Rangers handled it poorly.
01:05:23
I for whatever reason, New York seems to be a city that always wants to kick out of stars, you know? And in a bad way.
01:05:30
On the way out by Manning, everybody was pushing him aside. Jeeter.
01:05:35
You could go through it.
01:05:36
It happened since I was a kid.
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All that said yes.
01:05:40
If they would've traded him years ago.
01:05:41
Have you gotten a nice return? It didn't happen.
01:05:44
They gave him the contract where he holds the hammer.
01:05:46
You can't blame him.
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So you take a look of all the talking around this team and the decisions they have to make in a week from tomorrow.
01:05:56
Chris Kreider is one of those decisions.
01:05:58
Obviously, the Lundquist situation.
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My factor into that, taking a look at this team and what they need to do.
01:06:05
And obviously, you don't have to get under the cap if side and Crider tomorrow to an extension until training camp next year.
01:06:12
That being said, how can you creatively sign him? Because now they have talks that they've opened up talks and they are trying to maybe get this done.
01:06:21
What's the deadline of getting it done before they? Absolutely.
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Because the Rangers are known for never letting a guy walk without getting something for him.
01:06:28
So way before the trail, I would say day before the trading deadline.
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Don't know a day or two before whether it's gonna happen and we'll act accordingly.
01:06:37
I mean, I think White is gonna ask for you ever ask for eight? They won't give mate.
01:06:42
I think he's gonna want seven, and I think he's not gonna budge it seven years term, and that's where the Rangers have to decide if it's worth it or not.
01:06:49
I would have thought they'd have hammered out a long time ago.
01:06:52
This is sort of a bad move by Jeff Gordon to see what you're going to get out of quality this year cause he doubled down and he lost.
01:06:59
His card is having a great year.
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It could be a future captain for the team, so he's gotta.
01:07:04
He's holding all the cards, so we'll see how it works out.
01:07:08
But they could, you know, buyout Mark Stall next year.
01:07:12
I need that money for him and the Angelo case of capital of a few 1,000,000 bucks, too, So that's how you could do it.
01:07:19
But it's hard to have about a deal like eight days left.
01:07:23
When it's of this magnitude, it's very hard.
01:07:26
That was, Ah, tweet about a possible trade for the Rangers with the Panthers and involved Brady Schaefer, maybe Trocheck.
01:07:35
I don't see that happening.
01:07:36
I don't think why the Panthers would do that.
01:07:38
What would that do? Capitalize? Are they even money war with the Rangers? Gained some cap relief or take on more? No, I think they'd be taken on more.
01:07:46
I think Trocheck is making a smidge war.
01:07:49
They could be very close so I mean cliches about four million, something like that.
01:07:54
So I think they would take on a little bit.
01:07:56
But the Rangers can take on Trocheck is the better player.
01:07:59
There's no question I still like Brady share a lot as a player, but I just don't like the Rangers defensive system.
01:08:04
I don't think they're forwards, get back enough and play defense.
01:08:07
And so he has regressed.
01:08:09
But I think in a different situation, you know, he could get back to where we watch.
01:08:14
All right, Russ, next Sunday is gonna be very interesting when we speak to you, This will be right up against the deadline and and all those rumors will be fine.
01:08:20
So we'll speak to you next week.
01:08:21
We really appreciate it.
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All right.
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What? What's more, more Astros? More fallout? We talked with Dr Bluhm about the reaction in California, and it's very un California like we talk about, literally, literally.
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You're supposed to, you know, sportsmanship and kids had to be good citizens and and fair play in all of that.
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And, of course, we have the Astros.
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One of the attractions.
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Little kids where Mitchell uniforms major league names.
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You remember which.
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Which teams did you coach the Mets, Dodgers and Dodgers Mets? And I think before the you know what Dangers, Ira and the and the Giants Giants.
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Okay, but the kids like having saying Mitchell beautiful.
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Well, too little leaks in California and important.
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Ah, and in Long Beach have decided to ban the Astros as teammates and the league.
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You know, the league president in Long Beach says, You know, parents have disgusted.
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They haven't said that yet, but at least it was those two little exam.
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Once a trend that's gonna start all over the place, we should see what's going on.
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A beat reporter I'm kept our herd here each and every week over 5 40 AM Sports Talk to you again.
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As you know, I'm the hockey guy.
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Ages the basketball guy. Something away.
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J Yeah, let's let's talk a little bit.
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Since we haven't I haven't been here a number.
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Weeks. You were here last week.
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Let's talk about the changes at the top in the Knicks for a second.
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What do you see? Coming.
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You know, they bringing new people in.
01:12:48
They got rid of Steve Mills, which is a long time coming.
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What's gonna happen is the guy that bringing in gonna attract free agents.
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And what do you think that's gonna do for the coaching situation? Don't forget to mention what happened this week on first take.
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Well, first and foremost, um, the Knicks got themselves a guy who is deeply and well connected in India.
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Sir hasn't for a long time the knee jerk reaction New York sports in New York sports media is to make any connection to Brody, then wagon over the Mets, because we're talking about a player agent suddenly thrust into a role running a team that's not who he is.
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What he is a completely different scenario is entirely.
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This is the guy who's welcome.
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That is incredibly happy to stay behind in the shadows and just doing business on the move.
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But it's way too early for me to be giving it a great I don't know what we are, Rose actually do.
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I know that the connections he has the coaches around the NBA things with them into the Knicks.
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Lost 25 years.
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Jeff Van Gundy, Charter Calipari.
01:13:51
I think I should.
01:13:52
We brought up ad nauseam every time.
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The coaching carousel fun again are the guys who are on um, who are on their roses list, the guys who has connections with.
01:14:02
So I guess from that perspective, that sounds really heartened.
01:14:05
Um, I it's too early to tell what he is.
01:14:09
But to be honest, what other teams do we talk about the team president at all? Ever? No, no, just to a large degree going running routine has to sign off on it.
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But that took on Isiah Thomas, Jackson said.
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Hey, President Jeb and fell apart, going look a little different than some of the best thing I could say that we're at this point.
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Mills, the mother and model.
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Also, it's not burning when bandwagon in the model is the Lakers and the model two summers in terms of a president is everything is the heat with Pat Riley, who came in and show you Bob Myers.
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In terms of you have the agent turned in charge, you have the floor up returning to 18.
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That's worked incredibly well, and Golden State even necessarily Credit Myers with it.
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Um, obviously, rock loca was the Kobe drink.
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Um, I don't know how much you're willing to hear how much you really want to call it the Lakers success the Plunkett.
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But, um, this format has been worked in the N b A that under exceptional cir***stances under you know, this flash feathers and the fact that grass starting that ended up revolutionizing the great how often we're gonna hit that particles Or, you know, Toby in the Breakers on the Bond decided to be a writer.
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Now, you absurd cir***stances under which the best rice I don't know if that's gonna be happening with work.
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Odds are not, But that doesn't mean that this can't work, which is your room.
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That's more than enough for you.
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That's all the optimism you need at this point.
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Well, that's what two other things to look at.
01:15:46
So you take a look at a team that supposedly shrank to build through the draft, and then a team wasn't able to get any of the free agents they seized.
01:15:54
So you have a pronoun interim coach.
01:15:57
Actually, if you step back, look at the record has done a pretty good job when he's supposed to do, which is getting more out of the young players.
01:16:04
Is he a gardener? Metal walkers? You want to bring in free agents? Does he have a chance of sticking around? He's done.
01:16:09
We're supposed to do, which is developed.
01:16:11
Youngtown.
01:16:12
Well, I mean, listen, developing the young talent.
01:16:16
Um, you know, I say that was some hesitancy to know.
01:16:19
They're featuring a lot of the Veterans Weather Rivers to showcase them at the trade deadline or not.
01:16:24
You know, you're seeing over paintings and running the point.
01:16:27
Since he's been healthy.
01:16:28
He's, you know, a reasonably good job of it.
01:16:30
I don't want you taking that away from him.
01:16:31
Are you embarrassed? Hurt Kevin knocks and minutes have been infrequent.
01:16:35
Mitchell Robinson still has troubled issues that come on the bench of the start of games.
01:16:40
Um, we're still very fluid on those veteran more than you would expect for a team who is trying to build through the grass.
01:16:45
As you say, Mike Miller has done a good job.
01:16:48
Can.
01:16:49
He still thinks we're absolutely as the head coach? Probably not.
01:16:52
It's almost a foregone conclusion, not just because of a piece that's dead, but more so because that not what this is.
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They got a developmental by and they think we're still trying to lure the big fish.
01:17:06
They still want the current.
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Any towns were being enjoy.
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Rest of prey kill red or not, he seen that they still wanna reel in the big fish in that same place.
01:17:14
So you and I, and every every pendant everybody in the media, every Nick say, could be screaming and talking about do it the right way.
01:17:22
Trust the process, go through the draft, the mixers in the free agent market with something to prove and wallets open.
01:17:30
So I ask you this question every All Star Game weekend, what is in your mind? The over under at this All Star Game, you're under total points Scored. Combined. Yes.
01:17:43
Uh, or under.
01:17:47
How? For? Over 300? Uh huh.
01:17:52
I'm gonna put it probably around 3 15 I think LeBron team is so stacked.
01:17:58
And at some point, it's just gonna get away from him, and they start taking the foot off the bed a little bit.
01:18:02
It's a good number for sure.
01:18:03
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Philip Rivers is escaping Southern California.
01:20:51
The breakup is official between Philip Rivers and the Chargers.
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Where do we think Philip Rivers is gonna find a new home? Besides, obviously Florida, which has made very clear bravo so soft on the weed.
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Great job there.
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Thanks so much, You know.
01:21:07
I know Philip Rivers.
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I think it was a mother that game that they're not getting in the way. The fire.
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Good.
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Actually, I don't think he's going to get a little more than that.
01:21:19
They were thinking that I wouldn't be surprised if this is it.
01:21:25
When were you guys? When you look at that that you don't see him being an example, you depose the flower.
01:21:31
That means after pushing the bad Gamble field Well, what? Where emotion will not stop federal a speech.
01:21:39
You're doing well with the Buccaneers, Jackson.
01:21:42
Smooth.
01:21:45
We're gonna travel with them and had a swift kick first.
01:21:48
Somebody else are we to question is this raises an interesting question.
01:21:55
There's an XFL out there.
01:21:56
I don't know how much mint of Man.
01:21:58
It's not gonna be like the old Wofl and they're gonna start, you know, throwing contract.
01:22:02
But what a guy like Philip Rivers be an attraction for an XFL team.
01:22:07
For Philip Rivers to now, I know it's a lot of wear and tear and coming off a season, it might not be, But even if he plays two or three weeks in the XFL to show other teams, they still has something.
01:22:18
Do you see the XFL is being that possibility for players to similar to what we have here with the Atlantic League with the docks.
01:22:25
Could he play two or three weeks at the end of the season? They had to show he still has it.
01:22:30
I just don't see that happen because it makes losing so ego and pride in its ability to stand in there ready to get your people stand and have that belief in yourself.
01:22:42
You're gonna make the right decision to lead to a good place to your team.
01:22:46
And I just think and looking at how seven effects in the broadcasting and the show has been okay and the level will get all that great man, you got that it hasn't been pretty seven games.
01:23:00
I could see what you're saying.
01:23:01
Kind of like Reestablish yourself athletically does a fantastic job with that, although I think it's tuition animals that I don't think people would look at the XFL in that way.
01:23:10
That's a really interesting point that you brought about Philip Rivers, that you don't think any teams to take a nibble with.
01:23:15
That being said.
01:23:16
Obviously, Philip Rivers, is that the quarterback he waas, But is he a top 32 quarterback in the NFL? Yeah, possibly.
01:23:26
But I think it's very fair is a genius, I think, at this time, and you look at the way the NFL is kind of changing its way and asked if the athletic gotta be able to escape the packet, keep your eyes on a field and there's opportunity for him to do at this year.
01:23:39
And there was some of the worst quarterback performances in the league in 20 in the 2020 29.
01:23:46
I just don't see it, man.
01:23:48
You want guys to be young, one of the people.
01:23:51
I just I don't I see more of an opportunity for a guy starting your number.
01:23:55
Quarterbacks maybe be drafted 2nd 3rd 4th giving them enough because they could make plays with their legs.
01:24:02
Philip Rivers has never been able to do them in the face from that.
01:24:05
Anybody that's gonna be like that, you like Tom Brady s.
01:24:08
So that means that he's gonna have a sense of wine and a game plan.
01:24:12
He's been used to be a lot of independent, just not many teams out there like that.
01:24:17
That gets to one other possibility.
01:24:19
More so than an XFL tryout.
01:24:22
You get to training camp.
01:24:23
We get to the last preseason game with next West Precinct accounts, and first string quarterback goes down.
01:24:29
Oh, what? What do you think of the chances in that situation and that scenario that he could be Coast quote out of retirement for a one year filling for a team whose quarterback suffers an A C L injury in the third game of the preseason? And to piggyback on that question? And if that would ever happen, would Colin Kaepernick have ah, legal right to sue? The NFL has got picked up before he did not.
01:24:55
A fake cell becomes sick servers for the line.
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You know, people think you're gonna be a whole single.
01:25:00
So I don't think kind of happening didn't have any legs.
01:25:02
Stand there again.
01:25:04
I felt like the only thing that we owe Harvey, if that ever happens, where that policy now, when we ethically I agree.
01:25:15
So there was a better food with Jay Cutler.
01:25:17
It's gonna take that with visit.
01:25:19
So what has that much money open of the Sarah cats, or will they be able to give them the opportunity it could happen but I think it's well includes traits that make souls are when we go out for another young backup or something like that.
01:25:33
Phil, where were you? The option? What? We're talking quarterbacks, though.
01:25:37
Out there, one south of the freedom.
01:25:39
We talk about that mobile, but he has an injury history.
01:25:42
Where do you think Teddy Bridgewater ends up? I don't think that's one of the bigger miss numbers of people that would put it with the kind of guy he's wherever packet faster is probably one of the more pocket passer type credit back.
01:25:57
But I would be better for the first time.
01:25:59
A guy said that there was a story that that's gonna be an interesting decision.
01:26:03
Where there was like Carolina.
01:26:05
That's what I've been hearing a lot of years.
01:26:06
Southeast Looks like you're passing Move.
01:26:10
Can you really wanna go far? On paper? It's redder in Carolina has not changed for him, either.
01:26:17
It's a short term deal, kind of built the staff on their time.
01:26:20
If they're gonna go on baby a 34 years of ironic with Philip Rivers and Eli Manning, the way they're both going out.
01:26:29
The way we came very interesting.
01:26:32
My question is, Miles Garrett, like you know, you spend the suspect now is being reinstated.
01:26:39
What, you know what's going on with that? You do a suspension and do it.
01:26:44
And, you know, Are they worried about the players union? Why is he reinstated? I remember when the NFL, but was that really so? There's also what's that? Punishment comes down.
01:26:57
It's not really a very well booth past the number one overall.
01:27:05
Pick this guy, but you just keep springing this whole thing back up.
01:27:10
I have buddies are both from Cleveland and Pittsburgh, and they're saying on both sides Well, if all I get is telling the truth and why didn't come out right away, you know, the whole end dropping the N bomb that makes her adopted.
01:27:22
Tommy comes out saying, I thought everybody in Cleveland.
01:27:25
I didn't know anything about that.
01:27:26
So it's gonna be he said, she said, And it's just gonna unless there's where evidence kind of fall on deaf ears, whether it's true or not.
01:27:33
But he'll be back in bad hope.
01:27:36
Sue them for the Browns, No doubt.
01:27:38
All right, J.
01:27:39
Thanks so much retro with the just say L i dot com football reports.
01:27:43
Oh, really? Been a fun program, You guys, it zey I have to tell you, there's a great energy.
01:27:49
When is more youth in here? You counter balance a j coming way to bring the average age down.
01:27:57
So that's why Liam popped in here.
01:27:58
It was the life of the party.
01:27:59
I don't know what you're just as we go, let me just say if she's listening, But I know she's not that to say hello to Sophie Pearl Carter.
01:28:09
Nice, huh? Yeah, right now.
01:28:12
But at least we gained another listener than the road.
01:28:15
So listen, Liam, Thanks for popping in on.
01:28:18
You are an inspiration to our interns to see where this could go, which is cool.
01:28:23
I mean, some for interns have all gone on to some great places of really appreciate stopping by.
01:28:28
I just thank you for welcoming me, welcoming me back with open arms any time. All right.
01:28:32
We'll see everyone next week and be interesting week, NHL trade deadline.
01:28:37
So we'll see everyone next week.
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Have a good one.
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