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Today I got four different subjects I want to talk to you about.
I want to talk to you about how the New England Patriots Mohammed Sunu and McKeel Harry both failed to meet the expectations of the Patriots, the fans, the NFL and everybody this season.
The Xtreme Football League made its debut today, and it was actually pretty good football.
Former New England Patriots quarterback Drew Bledsoe says that Tom Brady thrives off the pressure that Bill Bell check lays upon his feet.
And finally, unfortunately for those Cincinnati Bengal fans, it looks like Jer Joe Burrow, maybe pulling an Eli Manning and refusing.
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The read Look, I think saying that the New England Patriots wide receivers Mohammed Sunu and Nick Eel.
Living up to expectations would be a massive understatement.
New England Patriot fans We were thrilled when Bill Belichick actually used a first round draft pick to get a wide receiver and whether you want to admit it or not, PATS Nation We were excited about actually having a premiere wide receiver who was strong and could be a legitimate big body receiver for Tom Brady.
We had conversations about the possibility of him moving into that grand grow.
We were excited about McKeel Harry now Mohammed Sunu.
That is a different story altogether.
The Patriots had been trying to get their hands on Seenu since the 2019 off season.
But at that point time, the Atlanta Falcons still believed that they had a chance in the NFC and decided that they were going to give this season to go before they made any decisions and moved on from any players and and really pulled off any trades.
Reports also emerged around that time, and I guess around the time that's new was traded as well that Tom Brady was very vocal about wanting the Patriots to make the trade in get Mohammed Sunu.
That was one of the guys that he and ballot check together had identified could be a good pickup for the Patriots.
So Belcher give up a second round draft pick in the 2020 NFL draft.
Ah, high premium for a receiver who didn't deliver what was expected.
Some NFL G M's were also frustrated by this move because Belichick basically dictated the receiver market at the trade deadline.
He blocked a lot of moves by happy because he set such a premium on the traits.
To be perfectly honest, at the time the trade was made, Mohammed Sunu seemed like the absolute perfect fit for the Patriots when he came over from the Falcons.
It's a new I had a great effort in his second game for the Patriots when they face the Baltimore Ravens.
He had 10 catches for 81 yards and a touchdown in a losing effort.
Week nine of the NFL season would mark the last time Sanou contributed to the Patriots before he basically just disappeared.
Now he did suffer an ankle injury on a punt return a couple of weeks after, and he was never really the same for the rest of the season.
Mohammed's the news final seven games for the New England Patriots were absolutely awful.
Beyond dropping some very key passes on some very key downs.
His production was so minimal, it's like he was 1/7 round draft pick.
He caught 14 passes for 103 yards and zero.
I repeat zero touchdowns.
And you know, the news performance actually left a lot of Patriot fans wondering why Bill Ball check wasted a second round pick on him.
And it also opened up the very real possibility that snooze play in Atlanta was much larger, in part because he played for Julio Jones rather than Mohammed's the news talent himself.
But that doesn't explain the drop passes, though, and I have wondered out loud a time if Seenu just basically crumbled under the pressures of playing with the New England Patriots.
When he was traded to the Pats a TTE that point in time, it was expected that he was going to be the piece that was going to save New England's offense.
Couple that with him having to try to learn a very complicated offensive scheme.
I feel somewhat optimistic that with an entire training camp with a pre season under his belt.
I think if they keep him because there are rumors that he could be traded, the Patriots could expect way better production out of Seenu in 2020.
Let's face it, guys.
He had a lot of success as a member of the Cincinnati Bengals and of the Atlanta Falcons.
I don't think that he's just come out and forgotten how to play football.
But moving offers a new besides re signing Tom Brady and getting some new offensive weapons.
The Patriots need McKeel Harry to take a massive leap this season.
Like I said at the top, Harry was the first receiver drafted by the Patriots in the first round during the Bill Belichick era.
And all admit that a lot of hopes and dreams about Harry dominating in his rookie season.
We're kind of extinguished during training camp right away.
He kind of looked like a working progress almost immediately, and then he went down with an injury and not kept him out of practice for basically 10 weeks.
Missing that time on the field with the team was a massive, massive blow to Harry's development.
And then when you return for the second half of the season, you could see that Harry still had a lot to learn about being a wide receiver in the National Football League.
Unfortunately, Harry had to go through his growing pains that he should have gone through during the preseason in the early part of the regular season.
He had to do it at the time that the Patriots were in no position to be starting a rookie Seaver rookie receiver in the early stages of his development and basically down the most important stretch of the season.
Harry, as a player, we can see it.
He is a physically imposing receiver.
We saw the hard time he gave the todavia Tre Davies white on run plays when the Patriots played Buffalo.
And there's a lot to look forward to.
But when he made his NFL debut, and what about mid November, you could see there was still a lot that he needed to learn.
And though Harry was able to make some impressive plays with the ball in his hands, his undeveloped route running prevented him from becoming a more reliable offensive contributor.
And I believe some of that is on Harry, and I also believe that some of that is I'm Josh McDaniels.
McDaniels admitted that he wasn't doing a good job getting hairy involved in the game, and it was almost like the Patriots weren't seeing his limitations like the rest of us were.
The Patriots increased Harry's activity late in the season, but his he only had 14 targets over the final two games and that, unfortunately on, Lee added up to five catches for 50 yards and zero touchdowns.
I think that it's safe to say that this will be in ER.
I think it's safe to say that this was an undeniably disappointing season for a first round draft pick.
And for a player that the Patriots used to first or used a second round draft pick on Harry, Answer Knew did not live up to the hype.
Unfortunate tequila Harry as well.
He was out performed by a lot of the rest of the rookie class, the wide receiver rookie crap rookie class that was drafted after him, downtown Brown, Terry McLaurin, Bee boo said, or Debo Samuel Hardman, D came at caf.
All of those guys now look like they could be stars in the NFL and the keel hair he looks like.
Well, we know what Nikkila Harry looks like.
If the Patriots are going to be successful in the 2020 season, regardless of who their quarterback is, they're going to need Harry to step up, and they're going to need him to make plays at this point in time.
I think it's way too early to call McKeel Harry a bust.
But it's understandable why some Patriot fans are concerned.
And until Harry proves everybody wrong.
Well, unfortunately, Patriot fans, you have every right to be concerned.
So we're gonna have to see what the Patriots do going forward.
Obviously, it's not just about addressing, they're offensiveness.
I guess you could call it in the off season.
They're going to need Nikkila Harry to come together, and I don't know, but it's just that way.
But there was another significant thing happen in football today.
I don't know if you guys know this, you should know it, but I don't know if you do.
The XFL started today and you know what, man? It was okay.
You know, the excellent foul made its debut.
I wasn't exactly sure what I was going to expect about the restart up of the extreme Football League.
But the first version of the XFL in 2001 seemed more like a wrestling promoter trying to run a football league.
And that's exactly what it was.
And that's exactly what we got.
Hey, was bad football.
Ah, and eventually they couldn't get a TV deal.
And after their inaugural season, they were just forced to fold after one year.
This newest version of the XFL is actually really different.
Um, it has some different rules and some really kind of interesting presentation qualities.
The play wasn't perfect by any means, but it was actually pretty good football.
And I think that if they continue to go down this road like they are, the XFL actually has a chance of being pretty successful.
Movement forward to me.
I think one of the biggest difference is this time around.
Is that what we're seeing in the game players? Vince McMahon actually brought in football people to run the league and it doesn't really have all the gim****s like we had back in 2001.
The other piece, Sorry.
The other piece that I believe is very important to the success of the overall health of the XFL.
Back in 2001 Vince McMahon was taking a lot of shots at the NFL and, you know, and kind of like in wrestling terms.
He would cut a promo on the National Football League, and McMahon was really trying to really, really try to like pit NFL fans versus XFL fans.
But the reality was, there weren't any XFL fans and what he should have been presenting.
The XFL, as is another form of entertainment rather than an alternative to the NFL.
This time around, there seems to be more of a willingness to accept that the National Football League is the world wrestling entertainment to the football world, as the W W E is to the wrestling world.
Ah, the XFL can be a very good complimentary piece in an alternative to fans after the NFL season ends, but it will really, never really be able to compete at that kind of level Now.
Things that I really liked about the XFL that I think the NFL should at least consider is the speed of the game.
Only having a 25 2nd shot clock really sped up the action and it didn't feel like this game was just dragging on.
The players seem to respond.
Just find the quick and play clock.
And as a fan I was more exciting, Um, because there wasn't so it was more exciting because the brakes weren't as long in between.
And I also like that there wasn't any challenge flag from the coaches and everything was just automatically reviewed from the booth.
And another piece that I, I can't thought was kind of really cool was there was an official on the field who was dedicated to spot the ball, which ensured that it kept the game up to speed.
Think up the game going.
The players didn't have to wait for the football that come in from the sidelines to run a play.
And basically, over these 1st 2 games today, we essentially got to see them play in a no huddle type offense for like the entire game.
I really enjoyed the transparency of the game as well.
It took me a while to get used to, you know, hearing the coach is calling out the place and the constant interviews on the sidelines, which you know, obviously, as a traditional NFL fan, I'm not used to, but what really caught my attention was being able to listen to the exchange between the referees and the huddle and hearing exactly how they saw things.
I also really like that when plays run to review the communication between the referee and the replay booth.
It was really interesting to hear, and again is a fan sitting at home on my couch.
I could hear exactly what the conversation wise, and I was kind of able to follow the call and hear the process through the replay.
And, you know, as a fan, even though I feel like I know a lot about football, I was also learning some sort of the inside things that I didn't know before.
Now the kickoff rule is really interesting and one that I think the NFL should perhaps look at.
I guess you could, um it's a little bit last exciting that we currently have in the NFL, but when it comes to Playerssafety, it's a really good idea and it doesn't eliminate the kickoff like the NFL is considered in the past.
But the kicker kicks from like his own 35 5 yard line, and he would just do like a normal kick off.
But the Gunners in the defenders lining up, they line up with the opposing team's 35.
The catch is the kicking team is not allowed to move the ball are move until the ball returner catches the ball.
And because of that, the Gunners aren't able to get any speed going.
And you know they don't usually have that flying.
4 speed in that kind of thing, you know, and it opens up the door for some returns.
But more importantly, it helps with Playerssafety now.
I'm not sure how I feel about the extra point system yet eso after scoring a touchdown, the team has the option to go for 1.
2 points or three points, and there is no option to kick an extra point if the scoring team takes the ball the two yard line after the attempt.
It's a single extra point if they take the ball at the five yard line, it's two extra points and it's a two point conversion and that they take it.
The 10 yard line then it's a three point conversion.
I find that to be a little bit of the gim****, but it also keeps things kind of interesting because, for instance, like a 12 point lead, it's not two touchdowns for the team to get back in.
It could very well be a single touchdown.
Get a three point conversion in a field goal in the game is tied, so I'm gonna have to watch a few more weeks of this to decide whether or not I like it.
But right now I'm still on the fence.
I'm not dismissing it.
I'm not saying I like it.
I'm just I'm on the fence.
I want to see how it goes now.
The final two minutes of the half is also interesting.
The XFL calls it the comeback period.
The clock stops after every single play.
Even if a player is tackled inbounds, the clock will stop.
The ball will be spotted in on Lee after five seconds runs off the play clock.
The play, the game clock starts.
Yeah, this is actually very similar.
Down the Canadian Football League does things.
It allows more snaps by the offensive team and essentially what it does is it sets up a more exciting end to the game.
Week one isn't even finished.
They're still two games to be played tomorrow.
But after the 1st 2 opening games, I'm kind of really impressed.
Impressed with the level of play in the entertainment value that we got out of the XFL today, Vince McMahon obviously learned his lessons from 2001 and today I didn't feel like I was watching a wrestling vent.
I actually felt like I was watching a professional football league, so it'll be nice to see them go forward with.
That will be nice to see them continue. One.
I don't know if you guys have watched it, but go check it out tomorrow.
If you didn't watch it today, it's actually pretty solid football.
Um, and I think you guys would enjoy Sorry, guys.
We're all fighting a cold here in my house.
So you know, people have spent the last 10 years or so trying to predict the end of the Patriots dynasty.
Ah, whether it's Max Kellerman and his talk of noodle arms and, you know, fictional cliffs Rob Parker in his load mantra or the no way no how and more recently, this illusion that the Patriots dynasty is gonna end.
Because there's all this tension and hatred war from between Bill Ballot Check and Tom Brady balance.
Bell check himself will admit guys he's not in easy coach to play for.
And I think at this point in time, I don't think Tom Brady is surprised by anything that Bill Belichick says or does anymore.
And really, despite both Brady and Ballot Shack sitting at a table during that NFL 100 team special, whatever it is gushing over each other and really using the word special way too much, it hasn't stopped my Twitter mentions and my YouTube comments of people telling me that Brady is leaving the Patriots because of Ballot Shack, and the reasons behind it are always saying there's tension.
Bell checks a deck.
He's been trying to send a Brady ridiculousness.
Now I think it's safe to say that what Bill Belichick and Tom Brady have had in have together is special.
Ah, Henry McKenna of the Patriots.
Why recently covered the Drew Bledsoe East 60 special, and McKenna probably summed up Bella check and Brady's success perfectly, he said, Quote perhaps the recipe for success comes without ease.
In fact, Bella check seems to create an unease in Brady's professional life.
During his special former Patriots quarterback Drew Bledsoe, he reflected on the complicated relationship of Brady and Belichick and how the tension in the locker room actually drives Brady's work ethic.
He said this quote.
In terms of the relationship, you work with somebody for 18 or 19 years.
It's not always going to be warm and fuzzy, especially when it's Bill Belichick who's not warm and fuzzy to begin with, particularly in a work environment, Bledsoe said in a preview for a new E 60 special.
As per Henry McKenna.
Is there some tension? I'm certain there is, but that stress intention contrive attention to detail.
It can drive work ethic.
Bell checks great at creating the discomfort.
And to be honest, I think Tommy thrives on it.
End quote What, to me, there's just been this.
There's been a lot of unnecessary debate amongst, I guess his Patriot fans about who's responsible for the Patriots dynasty.
You have a contingent of fans who are screaming that, you know, Belichick is not a great coach.
Brady's the reason, uh, for where they are, you know, look at his record in 2000 with the Patriots.
Look at his record as a head coach with the Cleveland Browns.
Without Tom Brady, Belichick would not have won anything That's not for Brady.
Then you have the other side of the argument.
You have the ballot.
Jack is the best coach in the game, and he's responsible for the dynasty.
And, you know, you know, people point to the defense during the Patriots Super Bowls, and people outside of Pats Nation will say that Tom Brady's a system quarterback and they can never really tell us what is actually the system.
I was like I was gonna sneeze there.
I would like to end this argument for everybody without Bill Belichick drafting Tom Brady and giving him the starting job.
Even after Drew bring a Drew, Bledsoe came back from his injury.
Brady's probably nothing more than a career back up in the NFL.
Drew Bledsoe himself compared him to Jason Garrett on the other side.
If Brady doesn't transform into what he becomes, Bill Belichick has never seen is the greatest coach of all time.
Here's the guys, the two of them.
Both Brady and Belichick needed each other, and both Brainy and Belichick were in the right place at the right time.
And guys, if we really wanted to complicate the whole process but solve this argument at the whole time, if Robert Kraft doesn't make the trade to the New York Jets to secure Bill Belichick, Tom Brady probably doesn't get drafted and none of the Super Bowls in New England probably ever happened.
And I think that's the end of the argument.
So, though, where does this leave Brady and ballot check in 2020? Usual, McKenna says. Quote.
There are rumblings that tensions could mean the end of the Patriots dynasty Row McKenna Celeb check.
And Brady seemed to be jockeying for power within the organization and 2018 according to an explosive ESPN report at the time.
It seems, however, they found a way to put that fun back in dysfunction.
Yeah, I think we all remember that explosive article in the debates and the storylines that it caused.
Um, you know, then the Patriots losing Super Bowl 52 really didn't help things out.
Ah Brady not showing up to voluntarily or for O.
A's for the first time ever, raised the whole bunch of questions.
Then what happened? The Patriot return to the Super Bowls.
They beat the Rams and everything seems great New England again until they have an early eggs in the playoffs and now Brady's face in free agency and all that's hanging over their head.
Suddenly, there's tension back in New England.
Look, I still think it's highly unlikely that Brady will sign anywhere else.
Brady and Belichick and the Patriots and Robert Craft, whoever they've all done way too much together.
And look whatever Bala check is doing with Brady, it's worked for 20 years.
They are almost always atop the NFC East.
They've won the A F C championship in five of the last nine post seasons. I believe.
Hey, they've been a nine Super Bowls together.
They've won six of them together.
They're the most impressive quarterback coach tandem in the National Football League, and I see no scenario that Tom Brady's leaving the Patriots, and I don't think that this tension is serious enough and I don't even know how much it's bad.
Tension really exists, and I don't know again Maybe I'm naive to the whole process, and I think that a lot I always think maybe I don't really know what's going on.
Maybe I'm not as smart as I like to.
I don't know, say I'm arrogant enough to think I'm that smart.
So I guess I do think I'm that smart.
The hell with it.
I'm right. You're wrong.
You don't like it.
Start your own show.
I got one more thing to talk about today that I know is going Thio.
Just I don't know.
It's gonna drive some people crazy.
Not me, but others on Lee in the NFL.
Do you have fans celebrating because their team comes dead last in the regular season? And really, it's understandable.
Unlike a lot of the other major sports, there's no draft lottery.
If you come last, you get to pick first in the draft.
Simple Cincinnati Bengal fans believed that they were in line to draft Joe Burrow, Heisman Trophy winner National Champions L s U quarterback.
But if you believe the report that came out by um, Mike Florio from pro football talk, it looks like Burrow, maybe retracting his original statement, saying that you know he would appreciate being drafted by anybody and that he would play for anybody in RARA.
Unfortunately for Bangles fans, and now it looks like he could be primed to pull in.
Eli Manning on the Bengals.
Maybe thinking of trying to get the Bengals not to draft him or get someone else to trade up for him, wrote Florio.
And the evidence is becoming more clear.
Don't you guys saw us? But Cincinnati's former number one overall pick, Carson Palmer.
You guys remember him? He delivered a shot to the God of the Bangles during Super Bowl week.
He came out and said that the Bengals are not trying to win a Super Bowl, Palmer said.
He made this assessment of his time that he played in Cincinnati.
Now coaches to change.
Things have changed, but he believes, or not trying to win a Super Bowl.
What's that? Do Jo Bro look normally when a former players taking a shot, his former team, it's not gonna necessarily influence a draft candidate about trying to convince, you know and convince him not, you know, try to convince the team not to take him to the idea.
But if I were Cincinnati Bengal fans, I would be concerned because shortly shortly after that, you know, low blow.
It came to light that Jordan Palmer, the brother of Kalsa Carson Palmer, he was just hired to help Joe Borough get ready for the draft.
He's a part of Burroughs team.
Boy does that sock doesn't hit Belloc.
Maybe you're a Bengals fan and you want to stay optimistic, and that's fine.
You can live life in the fantasy.
But Joe Borough appeared on the Dan Patrick Show after Palmer took his little shot of the Bangles.
And he said, And this is, according to Florio.
But I'm sure you can find it, said quote.
You want to go number one? But you also want to go to a great organization that is committed to winning, committed to winning Super Bowls and quote hmm, I wonder where he got that line of thinking.
Guys, Bangles, fans.
Look, here's the situation.
The brother of the private coach, the job Burrow and his family just hired to get him ready for the draft, getting ready for Prodi, getting ready for the combine has just said that the Cincinnati Bengals are not committed toe winning Super Bowls.
And then Joe Borough goes on a popular public show where he could have said, Hey, man, I just want to play for the Bengals for whoever drafts me.
But no, he says that he wants to go number one, but he'd rather go to an organization that is committed to winning Super Bowls.
At this point, if you still think that job job, bro is going to report of this incident of angles without kicking and screaming, I'm sorry.
You may just be living in a delusional fantasy world that's gonna become a nightmare very shortly.
If we really thought that Joe bro want to assist any Bengals, we wouldn't be talking about this right now.
Least I wouldn't be talking about this right now.
Okay, bro had this sudden pivot about not being picky and wanting to play for whoever draft him and no law drafts him and no longer exist.
And he now wants to on Lee play for a team that's committed to winning the Super Bowl.
Okay, The team that he built around him, tohave him prepared for the draft, is telling him that the Cincinnati Bengals are not that team.
And if the borough family wanted to deny this, Florio says, the perfect they would have came out and said, Hey, Joe wants to play for the Bengals If the Bengals draft him, Joe's ready to turn the franchise around.
But he didn't Nobody has.
And if Joe Borrowers representatives don't say this than all these rumors and storylines are probably very credible because the information is coming from Burroughs team.
Well, look, maybe none of this really matters, okay? Gerald Borough may just look at the situation and think this is all he has in front of him.
If the Cincinnati Bengals decide to do, you know, decide whether Job Earl wants to go to Cincinnati or not, they're going to use their draft pick on him, not forgetting the same way the San Diego Chargers used their draft pick on Eli Manning.
It will be up to Burrow to figure out what he's gonna do next, you know, but in four points out, like that's a lot of money.
That's a lot of draft value, that he may never find himself in that position again.
Here's what Florida said quote.
Even if Burke burro would perhaps like to play for someone else other than the Bengals.
It would be a stretch to say that he turned down a fully guaranteed four year contract worth more than $36 million.
Oh, and then wait a year and re enter the process with no guarantee that he'd be a topic unquote.
And look, Joe Borough may very well be a superstar in the NFL One day he may not be, but he could very well turn into a superstar.
At that point, Bro will then have all the power in the world when he's negotiating his contract, and he can decide to stay with the team or leave a team how many years he wants.
He'll have that power right now.
He's not even a part of the National Football League.
He's not a part of the NFL.
He's not a part of the n f L P A.
All of the power at this point lies in the hands of the Cincinnati Bengals.
And if Cincinnati takes borough with the intent on keeping him, we'll borrow would have to make a choice to either continue playing football and make a lot of money that none of us are making or he doesn't have to report.
It doesn't have to sign with the Bangles.
He gets paid nothing for the year.
He misses a year of football and his sister in hopes, and you know that things will work out differently next season with no guarantee that they will.
Look, it's a tough decision on both sides.
If you're the Bengals, do you want to draft a player that doesn't want to play for you? Maybe you do, using his trade bait.
And you're Jo, bro.
He really had the bet on himself if you decided he was gonna play this game with the Bangles and believe that somebody would be interested in either giving up a lot of capital and trade form or trade for next season, whatever may happen, the one thing I can guarantee is I can bet you that Cincinnati Bengal fans won't be so confident as they were heading into this year's draft.
That's about it, though, right? And with that being said, guys, I am dunsky for the night.
Absolutely, positively done.
I've hit my 30 minute quota and, uh, yeah, that's all I really gotta say, man, thanks so much for coming in.
And we got a whole bunch of the crew in tonight, Bobby and stew in all y'all ****ysts, others I know there's others.
I'm done, though. I'm sick.
I need to go to bed early tonight, and ah, it's not.
I go out at nine o'clock every night, Bobby, That's my new show. Time is nine o'clock.
It's not an early show, That's what it is.
You just go to bed too **** early, man, or you work these God awful hours.
All right, guys, I'm down for the night. Thank you so much.
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