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00:06:51
the following takes place between 8 a.
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m. and 90.
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Ah, Good morning, everybody.
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It is Friday.
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That's right.
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Yes, we're through yet another week.
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It is Friday.
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It is January the 7th 2000 and 20.
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And this is F p C.
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Radio live.
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And we're so happy to have you guys here.
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As you can tell, I'm in a fantastic mood this morning.
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Wide awake at about nine hours of sleep last night.
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First time in about 27 years that has happened.
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So I'm a little little off today, but it But it's a good thing. It's a good off.
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It's a I'm refreshed.
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I'm ready to go, ready to rock and roll.
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So without further ado, I'm gonna bring in my co host.
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That's right.
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You know him as Mr Rhode Island? Yes, that's right.
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Because I named him that.
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And as far as I know, it's starting to pick up steam.
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So sooner or later, they're gonna have a rally down in Providence to celebrate.
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Yes, that's right.
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Mr Rhode Island himself.
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His name is like debate.
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Mike, How are we doing today? Ah, that's right.
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More steam, my friend.
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It is picking up steam here in Rhode Island? Yes.
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And make sure getting, but we're up to three people calling me Mr Reed.
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I want in on that.
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Unfortunately, they're all family members, but, you know, you get the idea.
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So, no, In all actuality, I commend my good friend and colleague on the other end of the microphone.
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Right now he's stuff and threw it.
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But you know what? He's following doctor's orders.
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Dr.
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Bunny boombox Stephanie, and he's giving him his wisdom and counsel.
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So everything should be good.
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And we we've got a good show for you today.
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So without further ado, buddy, let's kick it off.
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Yeah, I'm good.
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I'm glad you didn't include my oath, Opal.
00:08:58
Other personalities in your three people that actually call you Mr Rhode Island because if he did, I mean, we could consider that maybe you like, closer to seven.
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You know, a good, good, solid seven people calling in it.
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So that is possibility.
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Yes, absolutely.
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You know, Well, you know, this is not the chief's parade, though.
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We're not gonna We're not gonna count, you know, bodies that weren't exactly there.
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I, uh okay.
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You know, you know they're that Mike Mike You got to get over it.
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My friends stop being petty. I'm never petty.
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Ever.
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Never, Never? No, I never, never.
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You never know.
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I'm working on it.
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I'm working on trying not to be petty.
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I'm trying to embrace, you know, they got the big red fan base down there and, you know, and then, you know, it's not that they're, you know, they have the colors of communism.
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Nobody, nobody really understands why. Nobody.
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Nobody cares about that. Nice.
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Very bloody and very salty this morning.
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I don't I don't know why those join me.
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You could help solve the mystery and that if this if this was the eighties, we could get some people behind us.
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I guarantee it. Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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You know what? If this was a nineties, early nineties Robert Stack to tow a whole unsolved mysteries don't go.
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There we go. But unfortunately, it is not.
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It is 2020 and that it's a very, very long time ago.
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I don't want to try to remember that, but, um, the one thing it is not long ago or not as long ago is, uh, as long as the Toronto Maple Leafs have won Stanley Cup.
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So I didn't get to mention that on the big, bad Bruins podcast yesterday.
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And I'm disappointed.
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I did take a stab at the tape of that.
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That that That That that Let me try over one more time. Reset.
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Okay.
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I said I got it.
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I got to take a job.
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Ah, you know what? You know, I feel I feel like this, Uh, Del Boca e, right? It's like I feel like Frank it stands are trying to say Del Boca Vista right now.
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I just I just can't do it.
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Don't booked. All booked up.
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Ah, yes.
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So that was my My tribute to Frank, it stands, are right there.
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Let's you know, let's let's not pretend like, you know, let's pretend like that wasn't me just flooding every single word that I was trying to speak.
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And, uh, so, Mike, please, uh, help me here.
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I'm losing my mind.
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I just I Like I said, I've gotten way too much sleep last night, and I just don't know what to do with myself, so All right, you know what? Okay.
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I know what we're gonna do.
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We're gonna jump into something that's near and dear to our friend Terence Big Hearts.
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And that's New York Mets.
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We're gonna talk about Mookie here in just a minute, because again, this this ah, situation is you know, maybe I'm starting to get a little hopeful that maybe they're just gonna put the kibosh on this deal altogether.
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I mean, they probably should, but we'll get to that in a minute.
00:11:40
Another deal that kind of got the Chi Bush put on them was the Mets deal, which Steve Cohen was reportedly set to buy a large portion of the New York Mets.
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But currently it has fallen through.
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So the hope of the Mets to to kind of push out the Wilpons is gonna be put on hold for a while.
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And I know Mets fans, you know, those that, you know, actually show their face in public are very disappointed.
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So, um yeah, this is this to me.
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I I titled this.
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The Mets are just going to met, and that's kind of what they are there.
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It's probably not a coincidence that they run with jets and they kind of just, you know, do the same thing continually screw up anything that they have or have available to them.
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So I feel bad for our friend Terrence, because I know he's going to, um, you know, he's gonna be pretty disappointed that this isn't gonna go isn't going to go through.
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Yeah, without any question.
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I know Mets fans are definitely disappointed in this. One.
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Word came down that Colin was going to be the buyer.
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All of a sudden, you have some optimism that the team is finally going to invest wise money into the infrastructure into the team itself.
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But even into the background, in the marketing and things of that nature that I think the Mets have really struggled with for a good long time under the Wilpon ownership right now it just it hangs over the franchise with, like, that sort of Dammika least type feel to it, you know, you know it's going to drop.
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But now you're just hoping that the buyer and the new ownership group that's going to come in is going to be able to live up to that expectation.
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So, yeah, it's ah, I do feel for the Mets.
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I think there's a synergy sometimes between Red Sox fans and Nets fans, because we have a common enemy even though 1986 they broke our hearts.
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But, you know, in any case, you know, you look at that and you say, Well, you know what, It's, um it's always good when when the When the Mets. Aaron in contention.
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There always seems to be that element of baseball that just has, like, a good feel to it in the National League.
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And I, for one, I really I was hoping that that did go through and that the team would be ah ah, big time, you know, rivaling competitors to the New York Yankees and the New York market.
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But right now, we're just gonna have to play the waiting game and see who comes in.
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But it delays the process.
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And unfortunately, it does put a damper on the season.
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I think for ah, Met strands, especially so I know they're gonna do their due diligence to probably try to ah, find another buyer and probably find one sooner rather than later.
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But this does delay it, and it does again.
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It just it kind of we'll see what happens.
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Yeah, well, I mean, Cohen already had an 8% you know, steak in the team that he bought in 2012.
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And this deal was supposedly supposed to bring him up to about an 80% ownership of this team.
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That's valued in the billions of dollars.
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Um, so again, this is something that certainly, uh, you know, a disappointing for Mets fans who have had to, ah, live through the just never ending misery that it is to be a fan of the Mets currently right now.
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So, um I'm sorry, Jerry, but hopefully the Mets, you know, I'm talking to Jerry, my friend Jerry Seinfeld.
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You know, he doesn't know we're friends yet, but I know you listened.
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Well, you know, if if the Mets had just hired George Costanza as their lead scout, none of this would have happened.
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You know, you did his best.
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He drove the trophy around.
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He got Lou Gehrig's pants.
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Ah, you know Babe Ruth's uniform.
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Now that was Steinbrenner.
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That war Lou Gehrig's pants.
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He was worried about Big Stein flopping and twitching.
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But in any case, uh, yes.
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Thank you, Mr Steinbrenner.
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Exactly how he was feeling.
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Yes, Big Steinberg Stein still wants an eggplant calzone, but that's another conversation for another day.
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But, yes, if the message is hired to stands and none of this would have happened, everything would be good in Queens right now.
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At the very least, hire Keith and fairness, you know, keep back.
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And that Keith Hernandez despise.
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Yeah, well, you Yes. Newman.
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Yes. We share you share your feelings.
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Oh, no, we don't despise keep.
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No, no, we should.
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I I would imagine that Mets fans despise the world parts, but, um, anyways, keeping it with topics that start with the letter m brought to you by actually don't have any joke with that.
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Those that was a failed attempt that I just fell flat, you know? So you know, your co host first name begins with M.
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You could probably throw.
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Oh, yeah? Well, you know, Yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
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And every day and every, uh, Michael.
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Yeah. Okay.
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I guess it's no way that that brought to you by the letter, and you don't say Well, I could've used Mr or Michael.
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So Mr Rhode Island? Well, yeah, well, not only that, but it was my $3 Internet cuts out.
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You always have to holler at me to get me back in the uh, that's a good way to go.
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Well, anyways, Ah, that was my failed attempt to trying to make a joke that fell flat.
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And that's that's kind of my joke philosophy.
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I go for it even if I don't have a punch line yet, because guess what? Sometimes it just comes to you, and sometimes you you know what? You run into a wall and you just accept it.
00:16:34
So But anyways, I was trying to make the connection from the Mets to, ah, Mookie Betts.
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And actually, that's kind of a rhyme, so they would go here, and here I am at it again, just uncontrollable.
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I just can't help myself.
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But look, we're in Day Two now.
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Since it was quote unquote announced that he was being dealt to the Los Angeles start Dodgers with David Price in exchange for a pair of prospects, both of which now, we have learned, have come with some baggage, both injury, baggage and, you know, some past decision making baggage.
00:17:08
And I, for one, I'm going to get into the point now and again.
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I realize this is probably very unrealistic, and I even said it like, you know, privately that the Edsel Inc Look, this deal is getting done no matter what.
00:17:21
And it sucks because you know what? We should take this opportunity that they have right now to realize.
00:17:26
Guess what? Let's get the hell out of this and figure out another option.
00:17:30
Because maybe trading Mookie Betts wasn't the best option.
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So I guess that I mentioned we have a relief pitcher with arm problems and outfielder with legal issues from from the past and sketchy.
00:17:44
Like again.
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There is.
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There's a story about partying with a girl that was underage and again, Why, why Why do you even want to entertain something like that? Um, and and it's It's great that, you know, great, not great.
00:17:58
But it's funny that these things come out after the trade has announced, like, How have you not done you due diligence? And how do you think that that's gonna pass as something that's appropriate to to make a trade in? On top of that, you're trading your franchise best player.
00:18:12
So you know, all these players are going to get scrutinized anyways, but to me they just need to get the hell out of this trade and just say, You know what? Our bad Let's let's keep Mookie and let's ah, you know what? Let's let's call his bluff.
00:18:25
If he really wanted to stay here, let's you know, let's call his bluff and see if we can get a deal done.
00:18:31
You know, that's the one element of this that makes me believe that your scenario could come true.
00:18:35
Like I I'm hearing a lot about the players that are involved and all of a sudden you start to think about it and say, Okay, well, maybe they'll swap out a different player with the legal problems because obviously that's something that could be a very, very deep problem for a team wth e injury concerns.
00:18:50
Yes, there are injury concerns.
00:18:52
There's no question about it.
00:18:53
But a lot of times those can be eradicated by maybe a sweetening of the deal or an adding in of another player, or maybe playing less of David Price's salary.
00:19:01
Things of that nature, you can get around that.
00:19:04
So I'm looking at it and I'm saying, Realistically, this is not going to kill this deal.
00:19:08
It may hold it up.
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They may have to do a little bit, Maur you know, due diligence in terms of how they're gonna structure it.
00:19:14
But ultimately, I think Mochis headed to Los Angeles and he said it to the Dodgers, and that's how this is gonna shake out.
00:19:19
But the scenario that you outlined is something that I was thinking a lot about last night to this morning, preparing for today and with both of those problems, and the Red Sox seen the backlash that a lot of the fan base has in trading away a guy like Mookie Betts.
00:19:35
This actually could end up working to their advantage.
00:19:38
It's in a lot of ways it could serve as a rallying cry for the fan.
00:19:41
It could serve as a rallying cry for the team and say, You know, we got a second lease on life.
00:19:46
We basically we made a mistake.
00:19:48
We're coming back and saying that, you know, we do want him in the fold.
00:19:52
He said that he wanted to be here, but it wasn't within his control and that's why he was jettisoned.
00:19:56
I don't necessarily know if that's true, but well, we'll see if that is indeed the case, but maybe try to gear up for a run this year and kind of like a like a like a Jake Taylor rally speech from Major league when the hole left in thing.
00:20:09
I mean, this is what could polarize this team to kind of move forward and say agency what they were going to D'oh! They were ready to give up on this team.
00:20:15
They were gonna trade me.
00:20:16
They were gonna trade David.
00:20:18
Now we're back in the fold.
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You know what? Let's show him what we can D'oh.
00:20:21
Then that could serve as a motivating factor.
00:20:22
So I'm not saying there's a good chance Lloyd Christmas.
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But there is a chance that this falls through and does end up working to the Red Sox advantage in some strange cosmic way.
00:20:33
So maybe that's just me being a fan boy and hoping for the best.
00:20:37
But I think there's more legs to it than that because there are a lot of questions surrounding both of these players.
00:20:43
And right now, I mean, the flip side of this is it makes the Red Sox management looking competent that could not figure these things out before he end.
00:20:51
But I choose not to look at it that way.
00:20:53
I'm choosing to look at it with a positive lens and hopefully they'll learn something from this.
00:20:58
Let's be real.
00:20:59
They kind of looked incompetent heading into this, so I don't think that changes much.
00:21:02
So, look, I I asked the people out there and you know, fans of the Red Sox.
00:21:09
You know why? You know, I don't I don't care about the management team looking like dopes.
00:21:15
You know, if they back out of this, trade our or go with public perception on this because again, I think in this situation, public perception is actually very accurate.
00:21:24
And, you see, like you said, you seen the outrage and the I mean, you have your group of off off people that are you can't you know you can't pay Player X.
00:21:35
You know, this amount of money people, you know, and then that's fair.
00:21:38
And I get that because again, you know there is.
00:21:40
There is a line even with in the league with no salary cap where you just can't.
00:21:45
I mean, money doesn't literally grow on trees.
00:21:47
I mean, for some of these teams, it sure seems so.
00:21:50
Especially when you can just sell a couple of bricks and make up the money.
00:21:53
But, you know, for the most part, you can't just willy nilly just throw a bunch of money everywhere.
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In baseball, you have a little bit more flexibility, and the Red Sox are certainly one of the more flexible teams when it comes to that.
00:22:04
So, you know, hopefully they look at this and realize Okay, maybe it's a mistake to trade your 27 year old M V P.
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Homegrown player who is considered one of the best five players in baseball.
00:22:15
Maybe that was a mistake in situation.
00:22:17
Yes, you you understand? Like, okay, maybe we can't afford that.
00:22:20
But we're not the Kansas City Royals.
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You know, I'm speaking as if I'm, you know, a bread socks management were not.
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The Kansas City Royals were not.
00:22:27
The Tampa Bay Rays were not the Miami Marlins.
00:22:30
Who again? I mean, I'd expect this from the Marlin Marlin's.
00:22:32
I never expect them to give a superstar second contractor extension.
00:22:36
I just isn't how they do business, but the Red Sox are different.
00:22:41
They're big market team in a in a league that has zero salary cap.
00:22:44
So to me, it just I didn't think it was a good decision to begin with, especially the return.
00:22:49
I mean, if you could have gotten a better return out of this, maybe I would warm to it a little bit more.
00:22:54
But, um couple that would like again the information that we've learned the last couple days about the two prospects that they are supposedly getting, and it just to me it's like just just mix it just, you know, let's just move on.
00:23:06
Let's pretend like this.
00:23:07
Never happen and try toe.
00:23:08
Like I said, call Mookie Betts Bluff.
00:23:10
He said to Jim Rice that he wanted to stay here.
00:23:14
He wanted, you know? Okay, if that's true, if you really mean that, let's make a deal right now let's come to agreement.
00:23:21
Let's not get the free agency because again, if you believe what he says, that he wants to be here, then you also have to believe that you then thes two things.
00:23:31
Both can't be true either. A.
00:23:33
He really wants to stay here and be here forever.
00:23:35
Or B.
00:23:36
He wants to test free agency.
00:23:38
So what is it? One of the to call his bluff? Call off the deal.
00:23:43
See what you got. Because guess what.
00:23:45
If you lose Mookie Betts and free agency, it's not like you losing that much from what you got.
00:23:50
So you know what, Exactly? Like I mean, that's the thing it's like, Are you? I'd rather risk this last year with Mookie Betts and get nothing for him at the end of the year.
00:24:00
Then get the two players that they reportedly got to our discussion to get that's that's mine.
00:24:06
Because at the end of day, exactly only reason to do this is to save John Henry some money and right, I have no Anderson doing that.
00:24:14
Yeah, exactly.
00:24:15
And I don't think the fan base does either.
00:24:17
And I mean, it's not like you're a poverty stricken franchise that absolutely needs the money.
00:24:21
They need the flexibility.
00:24:23
I mean, we can well afford this.
00:24:25
I mean, he's not exactly hurting.
00:24:26
I mean, there's no question about it.
00:24:28
So it does.
00:24:29
It sends the wrong message to your fan base.
00:24:31
It sends the wrong message to the region that invests a lot of time, energy and money into this team.
00:24:37
So if this is a chance for you to wake up a little bit and realize that this was not the course of action to use.
00:24:43
This was not the way to go.
00:24:44
The deal is not done.
00:24:46
There's still time to pull it back.
00:24:47
I agree with you.
00:24:48
Roll the dice.
00:24:49
Take your chances with one year Mookie Betts put the cards on the table, Let him, you know, call Exactly.
00:24:55
Call his bluff.
00:24:56
I think you said it very well.
00:24:58
You know, let him prove that he wanted to be here.
00:25:00
If he doesn't want to be here and he wants to test free agency, then he's gonna go out and test that.
00:25:05
I mean.
00:25:06
And what are you giving up? Two prospects that have, ah, lot more risk than reward and a whole lot of questions about what their futures are going to look like.
00:25:13
So, you know, it's not like you're you're losing out on ah Hall of a century in terms of young talent that has the ability t o mold into something that's going to be special.
00:25:24
You're talking to players and you can't win a championship with only two players.
00:25:29
You need more than that to mold around.
00:25:31
So, yeah, I think this is a perfect time for the stocks to walk away.
00:25:35
That being said, I still think this thing's getting done.
00:25:38
I just I don't know. I just do.
00:25:40
I just I have what I think you have to believe.
00:25:45
Very good use of waiting for that one.
00:25:49
Yeah, very good.
00:25:50
Use of the sound bite. That was great.
00:25:52
That was excellent.
00:25:53
But seriously, I mean, at the end of the day, it's just the way this whole story, Yeah.
00:25:59
I can feel a lot of people know a lot more than me on the subject, but again, like I said, just the way this has all played out, I just expect this to get done.
00:26:07
Yeah.
00:26:08
Yeah.
00:26:09
And And look, I mean, I have a little bit more maybe, uh, hope, You know, maybe that's the right word.
00:26:15
Hope that that's that this doesn't get done, but we'll see it again.
00:26:19
I have no faith in this Red Sox management, you know, ownership in particular.
00:26:22
I'm not tryingto I still think it gets done.
00:26:24
Yeah, well, yeah, I hope not.
00:26:28
I really, really hope not.
00:26:30
I hope you're right.
00:26:31
I'm hoping beyond all hope that you're right.
00:26:33
And I said, I think there is a good chance, but, you know, healthy.
00:26:36
At the end of the day, I just on I'm leaning more toward getting done.
00:26:39
That not well the problem.
00:26:40
You know, the problem is, people always put far too much value and getting nothing in return.
00:26:45
And in some cases, I do believe that.
00:26:47
And you kind of said it that there isn't a, you know, a marquee prospect coming aboard.
00:26:54
You know, there isn't that one player that you're like, OK, I can see where the value can be.
00:26:59
Maybe it doesn't work out, but I like what they're looking at here, and you just don't see it because to me again, you look at this move and it's it's the priority.
00:27:07
Number one is the salary dump.
00:27:08
And that never works out well for the team dumping salary, especially if that team is a team that can essentially come as close to anyone to printing their own money.
00:27:18
Um, so again, you know, maybe maybe who's unwell, But I doubt it.
00:27:25
Um, because again, like you said, it's the Red Sox ownership, and I just have zero faith in himself.
00:27:31
But we'll say we're about to actually talk about another owner of another sport related business.
00:27:38
And we're going to do that in just a minute.
00:27:39
So Ah, hanging, folks.
00:27:40
We're gonna take a quick commercial break if you're watching on ah Currents Force Kassar, you're gonna see a whole train. Just hang tight.
00:27:47
We'll be back in just a couple minutes.
00:27:50
We'll see you then.
00:30:02
And welcome back, folks.
00:30:04
Thank you for tuning in and hanging with us as we took a quick, quick commercial break.
00:30:09
Um, we just finished up talking about talking some baseball between the New York Mets, obviously.
00:30:14
Ah, their ownership deal falling through and the potential of Mookie Betts to Los Angeles Dodgers deal falling through.
00:30:21
And ah, you know, again, we will continue to monitor that those situations as they play out over the course of the this offseason and going into the season, we'll see what happens if both deals ultimately get done or if both get the stamp of disapproval.
00:30:37
But we talked a lot about ownership, both of the Red Sox and the Mets.
00:30:44
One thing we're about to talk about that's about to kick off.
00:30:46
Tomorrow is the XFL two point.
00:30:51
Oh, and we all know the owner of the excess fell.
00:30:55
And that is one Vincent Kennedy McMahon. Both.
00:30:57
You know, Ah, hero.
00:30:59
I would say.
00:31:00
And and I'm going to speak for my care because I think he will grew me a hero of both of ours.
00:31:05
Is that correct, Mike? Oh, it absolutely is.
00:31:09
I mean, how could you deny the greatness of Vincent Kennedy McMahon? You know, he he took this competition by that.
00:31:16
And go ahead.
00:31:19
Keep going, E.
00:31:21
I bet you could have done a whole monologue over that.
00:31:25
Two minutes.
00:31:28
No, no, Go ahead, do it.
00:31:31
Let it all out.
00:31:34
Yeah.
00:31:36
All right.
00:31:37
I don't want you to have an aneurysm now, so, um but yes.
00:31:40
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, not at all.
00:31:43
But, you know, we we obviously mentioned Ah, the XFL yesterday we were excited.
00:31:48
Look, I'm personally pretty excited to see what what this is going to be, because I was alive and very, uh uh, able to remember what the first XFL was.
00:31:58
And it was It quickly spiraled out of control.
00:32:02
And if anyone and again, this is ah, you know, going back to the first rumored mentions of this league returning if anyone watched the XFL, ESPN 30 for 30.
00:32:12
I think it was the 30 for 30.
00:32:14
Correct.
00:32:15
Is that the the do***entary that did the XFL thing or my Yes, it was.
00:32:20
You know what? He was 30 for 30 dying, except so anyways.
00:32:24
And, you know, you saw them talk about it, and they kind of at the very end kind of give you that little ah, little teaser about Hey, maybe it could happen again.
00:32:31
And lo and behold, a couple years later, here we are.
00:32:34
And watching that do***entary was a very stark reminder of what the first version of this leak turned into.
00:32:44
And, uh, we've talked about it.
00:32:46
We talked about it briefly before.
00:32:47
I know we've talked about it a little bit off air just because again we're wrestling fans and Vince fans and obviously anything that he does, I'm gonna be tuned in, at least to start.
00:32:57
And ah, you know, it quickly spiraled into a gim**** in terms of, you know, we're gonna introduce far more of the wrestling element that the sports entertainment element into this whole deal where you had, you know, very provocative cheerleaders.
00:33:12
Which again, I'm not gonna complain about and a lot of people won't.
00:33:15
I mean, I'm sure some will, but, you know, it just kind of spoke to the the product that they were trying to market and produce for people that, you know, very Ah, you know, like I said, you're basically taking the attitude error of W W E and putting it on the football field.
00:33:30
So you had that you had, you know, the you know that you bring in Jr.
00:33:34
Who again? To all his credit, the guy is a fantastic announcer, and I could listen to him announce anything.
00:33:39
But based on what Vince wanted and what this league wanted, they wanted more of that entertainment aspect.
00:33:46
You get into the locker rooms, all that stuff.
00:33:48
I mean again, Look, I'm not saying like all this stuff was bad.
00:33:50
It was just their mentality.
00:33:53
Their overall pick big picture for this league was, was, um, was faulty.
00:33:59
I mean, they looked at it more as an entertainment.
00:34:01
I mean, it is entertainment, but Maura sports entertainment, and not actual NFL league or football league spring Lee and very well said So I think again, I apologize.
00:34:13
I'm losing my voice a little bit.
00:34:14
I'm very emotional about fits.
00:34:16
You know, anytime I talk about France any sense Vince McMahon, Vince will fork.
00:34:20
Uh, actually, that's about the only two fences I know.
00:34:23
Vincent Price.
00:34:26
Um, but, you know, I I I think I have a little bit for number reasons, but I have a little bit more faith in this version.
00:34:34
First of all, despite the failure of the A F, the fear of the A F last year was not a product issue.
00:34:40
It was a financial and ownership issue.
00:34:43
We talked about this yesterday.
00:34:45
The NFL doesn't have that issue.
00:34:46
They have a sturdy ownership.
00:34:48
They have a cash flow, they have money.
00:34:51
So, um, to me, right off the bat, that gives them a significant advantage over the F.
00:34:56
And of course I mean, look, there's a plenty of players that we saw make their mark in the NFL from the A F.
00:35:02
We saw good product on the field, and I think the XFL could replicate that now.
00:35:08
At first I remember when this first got announced because we had to spring Lee coming out and there was very, um, distinct differences between the two not only when they were going to lunch, but strategy as to where they were going to play.
00:35:24
Ah, the A f took aim or ah, unique approach to it, where they targeted areas that were not necessarily not necessarily catering to professional leagues.
00:35:35
I Ala San Diego um, the search for markets that we avoid a professional football.
00:35:41
And, you know, I think at the initial onset of this whole back and forth between these two weeks, people thought that was a good idea.
00:35:49
And look, there was some value to it.
00:35:50
You built a fan base around teams or areas that don't necessarily have a team to root for.
00:35:56
Three XFL, on the other hand, took a different approach and they went for the established market because, um, well, it just seems like that was the strategy they wanted to take.
00:36:05
And and you know what? It's secured them and ESPN deal of Fox deal.
00:36:10
I mean, they're gonna have games on ABC.
00:36:12
This is a pretty big opportunity for this league.
00:36:16
Now again, a lot of this has to do with World Wrestling Entertainment's deal with Fox.
00:36:21
Obviously, these two businesses are not related.
00:36:25
However, they are related in the sense that, you know, one hand washes the other.
00:36:29
I mean, Vince has a deal with Fox.
00:36:30
Well, guess what? We're gonna get you some spring football and we're gonna put the product out on the field.
00:36:34
So right off the bat, I think they're going to be far more available.
00:36:38
Two people to watch.
00:36:39
I think the f had some issues early on about OK, how do we watch this game or where it's broadcasting? They had some good TV rights, but it was more of a You're going to give us TV and we'll give you a product and we're not gonna make any money off it, because that's kind of what it was with the A f.
00:36:55
So it was It was we're giving you are we're taking the opportunity to get on air, and we're not gonna charge you for it, Essentially.
00:37:02
I mean, there were some other deals that went along with it, but this is not the case for Vince.
00:37:06
Vince has the money. They don't need to take a charity.
00:37:08
They have a deal already with their main business. The W W.
00:37:11
Would you like it or not? I mean, it sze a money making machine that has been for a very long time.
00:37:16
So I think that that helps this XFL version.
00:37:20
And again, look, it's all about the product on the field.
00:37:22
So if the product sucks and it's not gonna work, But I think the A F gave us a pretty good indication that there is potential that this leak could work.
00:37:31
And, um, despite the prognosticators that are obviously gonna be coming out right off the bat, saying, No, this obviously can't work.
00:37:38
Well, let's see.
00:37:39
Let's see.
00:37:40
I'm I'm personally pretty excited about it.
00:37:41
We got four gay or two games tomorrow, two games on Sunday.
00:37:44
It's gonna be fun.
00:37:45
It will be.
00:37:46
And I think you know, it's a nice It's a good alternative.
00:37:48
I think that the market was ready for it.
00:37:51
I think you made very good points when you came to the A F.
00:37:54
That wasn't a a terrible product that was being put out on the field.
00:37:57
You can make the argument that the product is actually pretty good.
00:37:59
The football that we weren't I was actually pretty good, really was.
00:38:03
The problem that they ran into was mismanagement money management was terrible.
00:38:07
Business a***en was awful, and it was a little bit surprising considering a lot of the investors and the people they had involved, you know, people that had a lot of NFL experience that were very much a depth of being able Thio, you know, help to right the ship.
00:38:22
But unfortunately, at the end of the day, it's about funding.
00:38:25
And the funding just was no longer there with this version of the XFL.
00:38:29
I think it may struggle for the first couple of weeks, and I actually don't believe it's gonna go gonna come out of the gate as, um, maybe it's prolific or is ah as strong as it did in its first incarnation.
00:38:42
I think a lot of that was the, um, wonderment factor of how are they gonna do this? What are they going to do? And I think you also made some good points on the first incarnation of the NFL of the the XFL.
00:38:53
This was an opportunity for Vince to kind of flex his muscle is W W we attitude era muscle into the world of professional sports and professional football, and I think he thought that those two fan bases were very similar, that he could bring elements of what w w we had in nowhere there came in and bring it into exactly and bring it into the scrum in the middle of the field.
00:39:16
And, you know, the no figure catch This is gonna be smash mouth football.
00:39:19
And we heard that catchphrase thrown around quite often.
00:39:23
But I think in a lot of ways what the fan base did was said, Well, if I wanna watch w w E products, I'm just gonna watch W w e.
00:39:30
I'm not gonna watch W W E on the football field.
00:39:32
I wanna watch football.
00:39:33
I'm gonna watch the NFL.
00:39:34
And I think in a lot of ways he tried to take on the NFL in that regard and have an alternative type product and something that was different and new and edgy, and it just didn't work.
00:39:44
This time around, they took a much more deliberate approach.
00:39:47
That's why I think this one has the opportunity to succeed.
00:39:50
The reason why I say I might struggle at first is because I think a lot of people are gonna be skeptical and they're gonna have that image of the former XFL last time and say, Yeah, you know what? I've seen this before.
00:40:00
I've been there before.
00:40:01
Same old stuff, Not the NFL.
00:40:03
Not interested.
00:40:04
I think the people that will like you and I will be tuning in and a lot of others will create that buzz.
00:40:10
And I think once you see that, the product on the field is gonna be pretty Well, maybe this league is being run a lot better.
00:40:15
I think it has the chance.
00:40:16
So if it doesn't come out like gangbusters right off the bat, folks give it a couple of weeks because I think the groundswell could help the XFL in the long run.
00:40:25
Yeah, into your point to Not only is the previous version of the XFL gonna make some fans, **** it, but, you know, again, they f less last year for those who watched and and really enjoyed the league, I think you're gonna see a lot of fans, you know, come over that we're fans of the A.
00:40:42
F.
00:40:43
Because again there was there was a very strong group there, and we as a site full press coverage dot com had had the benefit of having a lot of really good uh, a f content.
00:40:55
And again we heard the passion in these podcasts.
00:40:58
We saw the passion and the writing.
00:40:59
We saw the passion from the fans, and they really loved it.
00:41:01
And again, it wasn't so much they felt betrayed by, um, the Carolina Hurricanes owner.
00:41:08
And I'm, uh I'm just blanking on his name right now.
00:41:13
The I I know it was burned in a for a while, and I'm just I'm just trying to blind No, I'm no, I'm the same way I'm trying to figure it out myself.
00:41:21
Think is like, Don dinner signed, whatever.
00:41:23
Something like that.
00:41:24
But it's not really important because the point of this is, you know, people were outraged at him for pulling the money.
00:41:29
I mean, even though he was the one who kind of tried toe, save it to begin with, I mean, by putting money into it and and that right off the bat tells you that the A.
00:41:38
F despite the quality of product, it was gonna be so tough to succeed, because if you don't have the financial backing, you're just not gonna be able to do that.
00:41:44
The XFL has it.
00:41:46
So I think, you know, at the very least they're going to get through at least one season, and I think if they build off the mistakes of the A F learned, Fry said, Look, there is a market for spring football, and I know people keep saying Who wants to watch spring football? Well, guess what.
00:42:01
You may say that, and then all of a sudden you're gonna tune and be like, Oh, wow, this spring football, it's actually very entertaining.
00:42:06
I'm gonna watch it because A it's football.
00:42:08
We love it.
00:42:10
There is going to be a market for it.
00:42:11
It's, you know, again, this is not something that's gonna blow up overnight.
00:42:14
But, um, the XFL certainly has some advantages that other leagues in the past haven't.
00:42:20
And that's not only the financial and and TV rights deals that they have, but it's also the opportunity to learn from previous mistakes.
00:42:28
And, ah, you know, I I think again we can make jokes all we want.
00:42:33
People can say what they want about Vince McMahon, that bravado, the ego, all that stuff, the guys one hell of a businessman, and he knows how to make that knows howto build an empire.
00:42:42
So if there's anyone I I will trust Thio, uh, to to do this right the second time, it's gonna be him, and he's got some good people in charge this time.
00:42:52
You know, it's not about the name.
00:42:53
It's Oliver Luck.
00:42:55
Andrew Luck's father.
00:42:56
Obviously a lot of experience with the game of football.
00:43:00
They've decided to, you know, do things such as, you know, they're catering to what people want.
00:43:05
There's a large group of people.
00:43:07
I'm not one of, um, that want to change the NFL over time.
00:43:10
And you know, one of the things that they're doing is creating it more like a A a shootout in soccer, where it's a one off, like you have to get to the end zone back and forth, which again I get.
00:43:20
I get their entertainment.
00:43:22
That factor of it, Um, I understand why they're trying to do it, and again, it's catering nicely to to the group of fans that really want to see something else from over time.
00:43:31
And maybe they see if they like.
00:43:33
You know what? I don't like this.
00:43:34
Maybe the NFL has it right.
00:43:35
Or maybe we all see and like, you know what? This actually isn't so bad.
00:43:38
I'm not.
00:43:40
Let's let's just put it this way.
00:43:41
I'm gonna have a hard time believing that I'm very firmly for the current way the NFL does over time.
00:43:49
Another thing that they change and be a huge impact on this game is is changing the play clock from 40 seconds to 25.
00:43:57
And you know we talk about, you know, maybe football is not in the forefront when it comes to, ah, length of sport and length of time watching.
00:44:04
I think less people complain about their length of time because again, football is king.
00:44:09
But it always makes me laugh when they come out with graphics of actual football playing time compared to like commercials and time off.
00:44:17
And it's it's funny that you get like, 20 minutes of actual gameplay, you know, versus like the three and 1/2 hours you invest in watching this programme.
00:44:24
So, um, maybe it speeds up the game a little bit.
00:44:28
You know, the idea of being there's gonna be more offensive plays and people love often.
00:44:31
So I'm excited for this XFL and you know what? I'll be I'll be parking my butt on the uh on the couch tomorrow.
00:44:37
I'm watching some justice just to see what we got.
00:44:40
Yeah, definitely.
00:44:41
I think there's a lot of buzz around it, and I'm interested.
00:44:44
I know a lot of people are you mentioned the market for spring football.
00:44:47
I definitely think it's there.
00:44:49
I think people are not ready to let go with a game yet.
00:44:51
This gives you a nice alternative and again because the financial backing is there.
00:44:55
I do expect them to make it through at least one season, and I can't see Vince allowing this to fail after one season.
00:45:03
After the previous failure, the XFL would be too blemishes on his record and say what you will about the man's ego.
00:45:10
It motivates him to be the best he possibly can be.
00:45:13
I think this has a chance to have a little bit of legs.
00:45:15
Is it ever going new rival the NFL? No.
00:45:19
And I don't think he has the grandeur vision that he did before, maybe even the false bravado that he did before that this could rival the NFL.
00:45:26
I don't think that's what this is all about. It's an alternative.
00:45:29
It gives an extension to the season, and I think it could work.
00:45:32
And, you know, given the right opportunities and the right players in place, I think this could be a good alternative.
00:45:38
So give it a chance, folks, we're going to do that and we'll be talking about it a little bit next week.
00:45:42
I'm sure any chance we get to bring up it's weak, man.
00:45:45
I will take every opportunity to do so.
00:45:47
So thank you folks for tuning in.
00:45:48
It is Ah, it is time for us to go.
00:45:50
It is just about nine o'clock on the East Coast.
00:45:52
That means we're about to sign off.
00:45:54
So, folks Ah, we've had a great week.
00:45:56
Super Bowl.
00:45:57
Ah was last weekend.
00:45:58
So we're the NFL season is officially over, and we will be hitting Monday hard with another great episode.
00:46:05
FBC RADIO LIFE So, in the meantime, give us a follow on Twitter at I'm at I g l E n 31.
00:46:10
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00:46:14
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00:46:15
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00:46:19
Guys, folks, if you're XFL fans, Check out full press X, eh, fellas? Well, so have a great weekend and we will see you on Monday.
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FPC Radio LIVE - 2/7 - Mets Deal Falls Through; Mookie Deal Next? XFL Kickoff

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the following takes place between 8 a.
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Ah, Good morning, everybody.
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It is Friday.
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That's right.
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Yes, we're through yet another week.
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It is Friday.
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It is January the 7th 2000 and 20.
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And this is F p C.
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Radio live.
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And we're so happy to have you guys here.
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As you can tell, I'm in a fantastic mood this morning.
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Wide awake at about nine hours of sleep last night.
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First time in about 27 years that has happened.
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So I'm a little little off today, but it But it's a good thing. It's a good off.
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It's a I'm refreshed.
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I'm ready to go, ready to rock and roll.
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So without further ado, I'm gonna bring in my co host.
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That's right.
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You know him as Mr Rhode Island? Yes, that's right.
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Because I named him that.
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And as far as I know, it's starting to pick up steam.
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So sooner or later, they're gonna have a rally down in Providence to celebrate.
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Yes, that's right.
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Mr Rhode Island himself.
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His name is like debate.
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Mike, How are we doing today? Ah, that's right.
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More steam, my friend.
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It is picking up steam here in Rhode Island? Yes.
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And make sure getting, but we're up to three people calling me Mr Reed.
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I want in on that.
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Unfortunately, they're all family members, but, you know, you get the idea.
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So, no, In all actuality, I commend my good friend and colleague on the other end of the microphone.
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Right now he's stuff and threw it.
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But you know what? He's following doctor's orders.
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Dr.
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Bunny boombox Stephanie, and he's giving him his wisdom and counsel.
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So everything should be good.
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And we we've got a good show for you today.
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So without further ado, buddy, let's kick it off.
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Yeah, I'm good.
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I'm glad you didn't include my oath, Opal.
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Other personalities in your three people that actually call you Mr Rhode Island because if he did, I mean, we could consider that maybe you like, closer to seven.
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You know, a good, good, solid seven people calling in it.
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So that is possibility.
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Yes, absolutely.
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You know, Well, you know, this is not the chief's parade, though.
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We're not gonna We're not gonna count, you know, bodies that weren't exactly there.
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I, uh okay.
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You know, you know they're that Mike Mike You got to get over it.
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My friends stop being petty. I'm never petty.
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Ever.
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Never, Never? No, I never, never.
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You never know.
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I'm working on it.
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I'm working on trying not to be petty.
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I'm trying to embrace, you know, they got the big red fan base down there and, you know, and then, you know, it's not that they're, you know, they have the colors of communism.
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Nobody, nobody really understands why. Nobody.
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Nobody cares about that. Nice.
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Very bloody and very salty this morning.
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I don't I don't know why those join me.
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You could help solve the mystery and that if this if this was the eighties, we could get some people behind us.
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I guarantee it. Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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You know what? If this was a nineties, early nineties Robert Stack to tow a whole unsolved mysteries don't go.
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There we go. But unfortunately, it is not.
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It is 2020 and that it's a very, very long time ago.
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I don't want to try to remember that, but, um, the one thing it is not long ago or not as long ago is, uh, as long as the Toronto Maple Leafs have won Stanley Cup.
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So I didn't get to mention that on the big, bad Bruins podcast yesterday.
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And I'm disappointed.
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I did take a stab at the tape of that.
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That that That That that Let me try over one more time. Reset.
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Okay.
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I said I got it.
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I got to take a job.
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Ah, you know what? You know, I feel I feel like this, Uh, Del Boca e, right? It's like I feel like Frank it stands are trying to say Del Boca Vista right now.
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I just I just can't do it.
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Don't booked. All booked up.
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Ah, yes.
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So that was my My tribute to Frank, it stands, are right there.
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Let's you know, let's let's not pretend like, you know, let's pretend like that wasn't me just flooding every single word that I was trying to speak.
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And, uh, so, Mike, please, uh, help me here.
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I'm losing my mind.
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I just I Like I said, I've gotten way too much sleep last night, and I just don't know what to do with myself, so All right, you know what? Okay.
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I know what we're gonna do.
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We're gonna jump into something that's near and dear to our friend Terence Big Hearts.
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And that's New York Mets.
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We're gonna talk about Mookie here in just a minute, because again, this this ah, situation is you know, maybe I'm starting to get a little hopeful that maybe they're just gonna put the kibosh on this deal altogether.
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I mean, they probably should, but we'll get to that in a minute.
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Another deal that kind of got the Chi Bush put on them was the Mets deal, which Steve Cohen was reportedly set to buy a large portion of the New York Mets.
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But currently it has fallen through.
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So the hope of the Mets to to kind of push out the Wilpons is gonna be put on hold for a while.
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And I know Mets fans, you know, those that, you know, actually show their face in public are very disappointed.
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So, um yeah, this is this to me.
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I I titled this.
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The Mets are just going to met, and that's kind of what they are there.
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It's probably not a coincidence that they run with jets and they kind of just, you know, do the same thing continually screw up anything that they have or have available to them.
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So I feel bad for our friend Terrence, because I know he's going to, um, you know, he's gonna be pretty disappointed that this isn't gonna go isn't going to go through.
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Yeah, without any question.
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I know Mets fans are definitely disappointed in this. One.
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Word came down that Colin was going to be the buyer.
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All of a sudden, you have some optimism that the team is finally going to invest wise money into the infrastructure into the team itself.
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But even into the background, in the marketing and things of that nature that I think the Mets have really struggled with for a good long time under the Wilpon ownership right now it just it hangs over the franchise with, like, that sort of Dammika least type feel to it, you know, you know it's going to drop.
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But now you're just hoping that the buyer and the new ownership group that's going to come in is going to be able to live up to that expectation.
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So, yeah, it's ah, I do feel for the Mets.
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I think there's a synergy sometimes between Red Sox fans and Nets fans, because we have a common enemy even though 1986 they broke our hearts.
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But, you know, in any case, you know, you look at that and you say, Well, you know what, It's, um it's always good when when the When the Mets. Aaron in contention.
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There always seems to be that element of baseball that just has, like, a good feel to it in the National League.
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And I, for one, I really I was hoping that that did go through and that the team would be ah ah, big time, you know, rivaling competitors to the New York Yankees and the New York market.
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But right now, we're just gonna have to play the waiting game and see who comes in.
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But it delays the process.
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And unfortunately, it does put a damper on the season.
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I think for ah, Met strands, especially so I know they're gonna do their due diligence to probably try to ah, find another buyer and probably find one sooner rather than later.
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But this does delay it, and it does again.
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It just it kind of we'll see what happens.
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Yeah, well, I mean, Cohen already had an 8% you know, steak in the team that he bought in 2012.
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And this deal was supposedly supposed to bring him up to about an 80% ownership of this team.
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That's valued in the billions of dollars.
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Um, so again, this is something that certainly, uh, you know, a disappointing for Mets fans who have had to, ah, live through the just never ending misery that it is to be a fan of the Mets currently right now.
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So, um I'm sorry, Jerry, but hopefully the Mets, you know, I'm talking to Jerry, my friend Jerry Seinfeld.
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You know, he doesn't know we're friends yet, but I know you listened.
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Well, you know, if if the Mets had just hired George Costanza as their lead scout, none of this would have happened.
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You know, you did his best.
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He drove the trophy around.
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He got Lou Gehrig's pants.
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Ah, you know Babe Ruth's uniform.
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Now that was Steinbrenner.
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That war Lou Gehrig's pants.
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He was worried about Big Stein flopping and twitching.
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But in any case, uh, yes.
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Thank you, Mr Steinbrenner.
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Exactly how he was feeling.
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Yes, Big Steinberg Stein still wants an eggplant calzone, but that's another conversation for another day.
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But, yes, if the message is hired to stands and none of this would have happened, everything would be good in Queens right now.
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At the very least, hire Keith and fairness, you know, keep back.
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And that Keith Hernandez despise.
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Yeah, well, you Yes. Newman.
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Yes. We share you share your feelings.
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Oh, no, we don't despise keep.
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No, no, we should.
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I I would imagine that Mets fans despise the world parts, but, um, anyways, keeping it with topics that start with the letter m brought to you by actually don't have any joke with that.
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Those that was a failed attempt that I just fell flat, you know? So you know, your co host first name begins with M.
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You could probably throw.
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Oh, yeah? Well, you know, Yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
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And every day and every, uh, Michael.
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Yeah. Okay.
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I guess it's no way that that brought to you by the letter, and you don't say Well, I could've used Mr or Michael.
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So Mr Rhode Island? Well, yeah, well, not only that, but it was my $3 Internet cuts out.
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You always have to holler at me to get me back in the uh, that's a good way to go.
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Well, anyways, Ah, that was my failed attempt to trying to make a joke that fell flat.
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And that's that's kind of my joke philosophy.
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I go for it even if I don't have a punch line yet, because guess what? Sometimes it just comes to you, and sometimes you you know what? You run into a wall and you just accept it.
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So But anyways, I was trying to make the connection from the Mets to, ah, Mookie Betts.
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And actually, that's kind of a rhyme, so they would go here, and here I am at it again, just uncontrollable.
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I just can't help myself.
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But look, we're in Day Two now.
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Since it was quote unquote announced that he was being dealt to the Los Angeles start Dodgers with David Price in exchange for a pair of prospects, both of which now, we have learned, have come with some baggage, both injury, baggage and, you know, some past decision making baggage.
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And I, for one, I'm going to get into the point now and again.
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I realize this is probably very unrealistic, and I even said it like, you know, privately that the Edsel Inc Look, this deal is getting done no matter what.
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And it sucks because you know what? We should take this opportunity that they have right now to realize.
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Guess what? Let's get the hell out of this and figure out another option.
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Because maybe trading Mookie Betts wasn't the best option.
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So I guess that I mentioned we have a relief pitcher with arm problems and outfielder with legal issues from from the past and sketchy.
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Like again.
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There is.
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There's a story about partying with a girl that was underage and again, Why, why Why do you even want to entertain something like that? Um, and and it's It's great that, you know, great, not great.
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But it's funny that these things come out after the trade has announced, like, How have you not done you due diligence? And how do you think that that's gonna pass as something that's appropriate to to make a trade in? On top of that, you're trading your franchise best player.
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So you know, all these players are going to get scrutinized anyways, but to me they just need to get the hell out of this trade and just say, You know what? Our bad Let's let's keep Mookie and let's ah, you know what? Let's let's call his bluff.
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If he really wanted to stay here, let's you know, let's call his bluff and see if we can get a deal done.
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You know, that's the one element of this that makes me believe that your scenario could come true.
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Like I I'm hearing a lot about the players that are involved and all of a sudden you start to think about it and say, Okay, well, maybe they'll swap out a different player with the legal problems because obviously that's something that could be a very, very deep problem for a team wth e injury concerns.
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Yes, there are injury concerns.
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There's no question about it.
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But a lot of times those can be eradicated by maybe a sweetening of the deal or an adding in of another player, or maybe playing less of David Price's salary.
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Things of that nature, you can get around that.
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So I'm looking at it and I'm saying, Realistically, this is not going to kill this deal.
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It may hold it up.
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They may have to do a little bit, Maur you know, due diligence in terms of how they're gonna structure it.
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But ultimately, I think Mochis headed to Los Angeles and he said it to the Dodgers, and that's how this is gonna shake out.
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But the scenario that you outlined is something that I was thinking a lot about last night to this morning, preparing for today and with both of those problems, and the Red Sox seen the backlash that a lot of the fan base has in trading away a guy like Mookie Betts.
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This actually could end up working to their advantage.
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It's in a lot of ways it could serve as a rallying cry for the fan.
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It could serve as a rallying cry for the team and say, You know, we got a second lease on life.
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We basically we made a mistake.
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We're coming back and saying that, you know, we do want him in the fold.
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He said that he wanted to be here, but it wasn't within his control and that's why he was jettisoned.
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I don't necessarily know if that's true, but well, we'll see if that is indeed the case, but maybe try to gear up for a run this year and kind of like a like a like a Jake Taylor rally speech from Major league when the hole left in thing.
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I mean, this is what could polarize this team to kind of move forward and say agency what they were going to D'oh! They were ready to give up on this team.
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They were gonna trade me.
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They were gonna trade David.
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Now we're back in the fold.
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You know what? Let's show him what we can D'oh.
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Then that could serve as a motivating factor.
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So I'm not saying there's a good chance Lloyd Christmas.
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But there is a chance that this falls through and does end up working to the Red Sox advantage in some strange cosmic way.
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So maybe that's just me being a fan boy and hoping for the best.
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But I think there's more legs to it than that because there are a lot of questions surrounding both of these players.
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And right now, I mean, the flip side of this is it makes the Red Sox management looking competent that could not figure these things out before he end.
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But I choose not to look at it that way.
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I'm choosing to look at it with a positive lens and hopefully they'll learn something from this.
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Let's be real.
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They kind of looked incompetent heading into this, so I don't think that changes much.
00:21:02
So, look, I I asked the people out there and you know, fans of the Red Sox.
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You know why? You know, I don't I don't care about the management team looking like dopes.
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You know, if they back out of this, trade our or go with public perception on this because again, I think in this situation, public perception is actually very accurate.
00:21:24
And, you see, like you said, you seen the outrage and the I mean, you have your group of off off people that are you can't you know you can't pay Player X.
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You know, this amount of money people, you know, and then that's fair.
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And I get that because again, you know there is.
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There is a line even with in the league with no salary cap where you just can't.
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I mean, money doesn't literally grow on trees.
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I mean, for some of these teams, it sure seems so.
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Especially when you can just sell a couple of bricks and make up the money.
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But, you know, for the most part, you can't just willy nilly just throw a bunch of money everywhere.
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In baseball, you have a little bit more flexibility, and the Red Sox are certainly one of the more flexible teams when it comes to that.
00:22:04
So, you know, hopefully they look at this and realize Okay, maybe it's a mistake to trade your 27 year old M V P.
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Homegrown player who is considered one of the best five players in baseball.
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Maybe that was a mistake in situation.
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Yes, you you understand? Like, okay, maybe we can't afford that.
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But we're not the Kansas City Royals.
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You know, I'm speaking as if I'm, you know, a bread socks management were not.
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The Kansas City Royals were not.
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The Tampa Bay Rays were not the Miami Marlins.
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Who again? I mean, I'd expect this from the Marlin Marlin's.
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I never expect them to give a superstar second contractor extension.
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I just isn't how they do business, but the Red Sox are different.
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They're big market team in a in a league that has zero salary cap.
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So to me, it just I didn't think it was a good decision to begin with, especially the return.
00:22:49
I mean, if you could have gotten a better return out of this, maybe I would warm to it a little bit more.
00:22:54
But, um couple that would like again the information that we've learned the last couple days about the two prospects that they are supposedly getting, and it just to me it's like just just mix it just, you know, let's just move on.
00:23:06
Let's pretend like this.
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Never happen and try toe.
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Like I said, call Mookie Betts Bluff.
00:23:10
He said to Jim Rice that he wanted to stay here.
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He wanted, you know? Okay, if that's true, if you really mean that, let's make a deal right now let's come to agreement.
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Let's not get the free agency because again, if you believe what he says, that he wants to be here, then you also have to believe that you then thes two things.
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Both can't be true either. A.
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He really wants to stay here and be here forever.
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Or B.
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He wants to test free agency.
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So what is it? One of the to call his bluff? Call off the deal.
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See what you got. Because guess what.
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If you lose Mookie Betts and free agency, it's not like you losing that much from what you got.
00:23:50
So you know what, Exactly? Like I mean, that's the thing it's like, Are you? I'd rather risk this last year with Mookie Betts and get nothing for him at the end of the year.
00:24:00
Then get the two players that they reportedly got to our discussion to get that's that's mine.
00:24:06
Because at the end of day, exactly only reason to do this is to save John Henry some money and right, I have no Anderson doing that.
00:24:14
Yeah, exactly.
00:24:15
And I don't think the fan base does either.
00:24:17
And I mean, it's not like you're a poverty stricken franchise that absolutely needs the money.
00:24:21
They need the flexibility.
00:24:23
I mean, we can well afford this.
00:24:25
I mean, he's not exactly hurting.
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I mean, there's no question about it.
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So it does.
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It sends the wrong message to your fan base.
00:24:31
It sends the wrong message to the region that invests a lot of time, energy and money into this team.
00:24:37
So if this is a chance for you to wake up a little bit and realize that this was not the course of action to use.
00:24:43
This was not the way to go.
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The deal is not done.
00:24:46
There's still time to pull it back.
00:24:47
I agree with you.
00:24:48
Roll the dice.
00:24:49
Take your chances with one year Mookie Betts put the cards on the table, Let him, you know, call Exactly.
00:24:55
Call his bluff.
00:24:56
I think you said it very well.
00:24:58
You know, let him prove that he wanted to be here.
00:25:00
If he doesn't want to be here and he wants to test free agency, then he's gonna go out and test that.
00:25:05
I mean.
00:25:06
And what are you giving up? Two prospects that have, ah, lot more risk than reward and a whole lot of questions about what their futures are going to look like.
00:25:13
So, you know, it's not like you're you're losing out on ah Hall of a century in terms of young talent that has the ability t o mold into something that's going to be special.
00:25:24
You're talking to players and you can't win a championship with only two players.
00:25:29
You need more than that to mold around.
00:25:31
So, yeah, I think this is a perfect time for the stocks to walk away.
00:25:35
That being said, I still think this thing's getting done.
00:25:38
I just I don't know. I just do.
00:25:40
I just I have what I think you have to believe.
00:25:45
Very good use of waiting for that one.
00:25:49
Yeah, very good.
00:25:50
Use of the sound bite. That was great.
00:25:52
That was excellent.
00:25:53
But seriously, I mean, at the end of the day, it's just the way this whole story, Yeah.
00:25:59
I can feel a lot of people know a lot more than me on the subject, but again, like I said, just the way this has all played out, I just expect this to get done.
00:26:07
Yeah.
00:26:08
Yeah.
00:26:09
And And look, I mean, I have a little bit more maybe, uh, hope, You know, maybe that's the right word.
00:26:15
Hope that that's that this doesn't get done, but we'll see it again.
00:26:19
I have no faith in this Red Sox management, you know, ownership in particular.
00:26:22
I'm not tryingto I still think it gets done.
00:26:24
Yeah, well, yeah, I hope not.
00:26:28
I really, really hope not.
00:26:30
I hope you're right.
00:26:31
I'm hoping beyond all hope that you're right.
00:26:33
And I said, I think there is a good chance, but, you know, healthy.
00:26:36
At the end of the day, I just on I'm leaning more toward getting done.
00:26:39
That not well the problem.
00:26:40
You know, the problem is, people always put far too much value and getting nothing in return.
00:26:45
And in some cases, I do believe that.
00:26:47
And you kind of said it that there isn't a, you know, a marquee prospect coming aboard.
00:26:54
You know, there isn't that one player that you're like, OK, I can see where the value can be.
00:26:59
Maybe it doesn't work out, but I like what they're looking at here, and you just don't see it because to me again, you look at this move and it's it's the priority.
00:27:07
Number one is the salary dump.
00:27:08
And that never works out well for the team dumping salary, especially if that team is a team that can essentially come as close to anyone to printing their own money.
00:27:18
Um, so again, you know, maybe maybe who's unwell, But I doubt it.
00:27:25
Um, because again, like you said, it's the Red Sox ownership, and I just have zero faith in himself.
00:27:31
But we'll say we're about to actually talk about another owner of another sport related business.
00:27:38
And we're going to do that in just a minute.
00:27:39
So Ah, hanging, folks.
00:27:40
We're gonna take a quick commercial break if you're watching on ah Currents Force Kassar, you're gonna see a whole train. Just hang tight.
00:27:47
We'll be back in just a couple minutes.
00:27:50
We'll see you then.
00:30:02
And welcome back, folks.
00:30:04
Thank you for tuning in and hanging with us as we took a quick, quick commercial break.
00:30:09
Um, we just finished up talking about talking some baseball between the New York Mets, obviously.
00:30:14
Ah, their ownership deal falling through and the potential of Mookie Betts to Los Angeles Dodgers deal falling through.
00:30:21
And ah, you know, again, we will continue to monitor that those situations as they play out over the course of the this offseason and going into the season, we'll see what happens if both deals ultimately get done or if both get the stamp of disapproval.
00:30:37
But we talked a lot about ownership, both of the Red Sox and the Mets.
00:30:44
One thing we're about to talk about that's about to kick off.
00:30:46
Tomorrow is the XFL two point.
00:30:51
Oh, and we all know the owner of the excess fell.
00:30:55
And that is one Vincent Kennedy McMahon. Both.
00:30:57
You know, Ah, hero.
00:30:59
I would say.
00:31:00
And and I'm going to speak for my care because I think he will grew me a hero of both of ours.
00:31:05
Is that correct, Mike? Oh, it absolutely is.
00:31:09
I mean, how could you deny the greatness of Vincent Kennedy McMahon? You know, he he took this competition by that.
00:31:16
And go ahead.
00:31:19
Keep going, E.
00:31:21
I bet you could have done a whole monologue over that.
00:31:25
Two minutes.
00:31:28
No, no, Go ahead, do it.
00:31:31
Let it all out.
00:31:34
Yeah.
00:31:36
All right.
00:31:37
I don't want you to have an aneurysm now, so, um but yes.
00:31:40
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, not at all.
00:31:43
But, you know, we we obviously mentioned Ah, the XFL yesterday we were excited.
00:31:48
Look, I'm personally pretty excited to see what what this is going to be, because I was alive and very, uh uh, able to remember what the first XFL was.
00:31:58
And it was It quickly spiraled out of control.
00:32:02
And if anyone and again, this is ah, you know, going back to the first rumored mentions of this league returning if anyone watched the XFL, ESPN 30 for 30.
00:32:12
I think it was the 30 for 30.
00:32:14
Correct.
00:32:15
Is that the the do***entary that did the XFL thing or my Yes, it was.
00:32:20
You know what? He was 30 for 30 dying, except so anyways.
00:32:24
And, you know, you saw them talk about it, and they kind of at the very end kind of give you that little ah, little teaser about Hey, maybe it could happen again.
00:32:31
And lo and behold, a couple years later, here we are.
00:32:34
And watching that do***entary was a very stark reminder of what the first version of this leak turned into.
00:32:44
And, uh, we've talked about it.
00:32:46
We talked about it briefly before.
00:32:47
I know we've talked about it a little bit off air just because again we're wrestling fans and Vince fans and obviously anything that he does, I'm gonna be tuned in, at least to start.
00:32:57
And ah, you know, it quickly spiraled into a gim**** in terms of, you know, we're gonna introduce far more of the wrestling element that the sports entertainment element into this whole deal where you had, you know, very provocative cheerleaders.
00:33:12
Which again, I'm not gonna complain about and a lot of people won't.
00:33:15
I mean, I'm sure some will, but, you know, it just kind of spoke to the the product that they were trying to market and produce for people that, you know, very Ah, you know, like I said, you're basically taking the attitude error of W W E and putting it on the football field.
00:33:30
So you had that you had, you know, the you know that you bring in Jr.
00:33:34
Who again? To all his credit, the guy is a fantastic announcer, and I could listen to him announce anything.
00:33:39
But based on what Vince wanted and what this league wanted, they wanted more of that entertainment aspect.
00:33:46
You get into the locker rooms, all that stuff.
00:33:48
I mean again, Look, I'm not saying like all this stuff was bad.
00:33:50
It was just their mentality.
00:33:53
Their overall pick big picture for this league was, was, um, was faulty.
00:33:59
I mean, they looked at it more as an entertainment.
00:34:01
I mean, it is entertainment, but Maura sports entertainment, and not actual NFL league or football league spring Lee and very well said So I think again, I apologize.
00:34:13
I'm losing my voice a little bit.
00:34:14
I'm very emotional about fits.
00:34:16
You know, anytime I talk about France any sense Vince McMahon, Vince will fork.
00:34:20
Uh, actually, that's about the only two fences I know.
00:34:23
Vincent Price.
00:34:26
Um, but, you know, I I I think I have a little bit for number reasons, but I have a little bit more faith in this version.
00:34:34
First of all, despite the failure of the A F, the fear of the A F last year was not a product issue.
00:34:40
It was a financial and ownership issue.
00:34:43
We talked about this yesterday.
00:34:45
The NFL doesn't have that issue.
00:34:46
They have a sturdy ownership.
00:34:48
They have a cash flow, they have money.
00:34:51
So, um, to me, right off the bat, that gives them a significant advantage over the F.
00:34:56
And of course I mean, look, there's a plenty of players that we saw make their mark in the NFL from the A F.
00:35:02
We saw good product on the field, and I think the XFL could replicate that now.
00:35:08
At first I remember when this first got announced because we had to spring Lee coming out and there was very, um, distinct differences between the two not only when they were going to lunch, but strategy as to where they were going to play.
00:35:24
Ah, the A f took aim or ah, unique approach to it, where they targeted areas that were not necessarily not necessarily catering to professional leagues.
00:35:35
I Ala San Diego um, the search for markets that we avoid a professional football.
00:35:41
And, you know, I think at the initial onset of this whole back and forth between these two weeks, people thought that was a good idea.
00:35:49
And look, there was some value to it.
00:35:50
You built a fan base around teams or areas that don't necessarily have a team to root for.
00:35:56
Three XFL, on the other hand, took a different approach and they went for the established market because, um, well, it just seems like that was the strategy they wanted to take.
00:36:05
And and you know what? It's secured them and ESPN deal of Fox deal.
00:36:10
I mean, they're gonna have games on ABC.
00:36:12
This is a pretty big opportunity for this league.
00:36:16
Now again, a lot of this has to do with World Wrestling Entertainment's deal with Fox.
00:36:21
Obviously, these two businesses are not related.
00:36:25
However, they are related in the sense that, you know, one hand washes the other.
00:36:29
I mean, Vince has a deal with Fox.
00:36:30
Well, guess what? We're gonna get you some spring football and we're gonna put the product out on the field.
00:36:34
So right off the bat, I think they're going to be far more available.
00:36:38
Two people to watch.
00:36:39
I think the f had some issues early on about OK, how do we watch this game or where it's broadcasting? They had some good TV rights, but it was more of a You're going to give us TV and we'll give you a product and we're not gonna make any money off it, because that's kind of what it was with the A f.
00:36:55
So it was It was we're giving you are we're taking the opportunity to get on air, and we're not gonna charge you for it, Essentially.
00:37:02
I mean, there were some other deals that went along with it, but this is not the case for Vince.
00:37:06
Vince has the money. They don't need to take a charity.
00:37:08
They have a deal already with their main business. The W W.
00:37:11
Would you like it or not? I mean, it sze a money making machine that has been for a very long time.
00:37:16
So I think that that helps this XFL version.
00:37:20
And again, look, it's all about the product on the field.
00:37:22
So if the product sucks and it's not gonna work, But I think the A F gave us a pretty good indication that there is potential that this leak could work.
00:37:31
And, um, despite the prognosticators that are obviously gonna be coming out right off the bat, saying, No, this obviously can't work.
00:37:38
Well, let's see.
00:37:39
Let's see.
00:37:40
I'm I'm personally pretty excited about it.
00:37:41
We got four gay or two games tomorrow, two games on Sunday.
00:37:44
It's gonna be fun.
00:37:45
It will be.
00:37:46
And I think you know, it's a nice It's a good alternative.
00:37:48
I think that the market was ready for it.
00:37:51
I think you made very good points when you came to the A F.
00:37:54
That wasn't a a terrible product that was being put out on the field.
00:37:57
You can make the argument that the product is actually pretty good.
00:37:59
The football that we weren't I was actually pretty good, really was.
00:38:03
The problem that they ran into was mismanagement money management was terrible.
00:38:07
Business a***en was awful, and it was a little bit surprising considering a lot of the investors and the people they had involved, you know, people that had a lot of NFL experience that were very much a depth of being able Thio, you know, help to right the ship.
00:38:22
But unfortunately, at the end of the day, it's about funding.
00:38:25
And the funding just was no longer there with this version of the XFL.
00:38:29
I think it may struggle for the first couple of weeks, and I actually don't believe it's gonna go gonna come out of the gate as, um, maybe it's prolific or is ah as strong as it did in its first incarnation.
00:38:42
I think a lot of that was the, um, wonderment factor of how are they gonna do this? What are they going to do? And I think you also made some good points on the first incarnation of the NFL of the the XFL.
00:38:53
This was an opportunity for Vince to kind of flex his muscle is W W we attitude era muscle into the world of professional sports and professional football, and I think he thought that those two fan bases were very similar, that he could bring elements of what w w we had in nowhere there came in and bring it into exactly and bring it into the scrum in the middle of the field.
00:39:16
And, you know, the no figure catch This is gonna be smash mouth football.
00:39:19
And we heard that catchphrase thrown around quite often.
00:39:23
But I think in a lot of ways what the fan base did was said, Well, if I wanna watch w w E products, I'm just gonna watch W w e.
00:39:30
I'm not gonna watch W W E on the football field.
00:39:32
I wanna watch football.
00:39:33
I'm gonna watch the NFL.
00:39:34
And I think in a lot of ways he tried to take on the NFL in that regard and have an alternative type product and something that was different and new and edgy, and it just didn't work.
00:39:44
This time around, they took a much more deliberate approach.
00:39:47
That's why I think this one has the opportunity to succeed.
00:39:50
The reason why I say I might struggle at first is because I think a lot of people are gonna be skeptical and they're gonna have that image of the former XFL last time and say, Yeah, you know what? I've seen this before.
00:40:00
I've been there before.
00:40:01
Same old stuff, Not the NFL.
00:40:03
Not interested.
00:40:04
I think the people that will like you and I will be tuning in and a lot of others will create that buzz.
00:40:10
And I think once you see that, the product on the field is gonna be pretty Well, maybe this league is being run a lot better.
00:40:15
I think it has the chance.
00:40:16
So if it doesn't come out like gangbusters right off the bat, folks give it a couple of weeks because I think the groundswell could help the XFL in the long run.
00:40:25
Yeah, into your point to Not only is the previous version of the XFL gonna make some fans, **** it, but, you know, again, they f less last year for those who watched and and really enjoyed the league, I think you're gonna see a lot of fans, you know, come over that we're fans of the A.
00:40:42
F.
00:40:43
Because again there was there was a very strong group there, and we as a site full press coverage dot com had had the benefit of having a lot of really good uh, a f content.
00:40:55
And again we heard the passion in these podcasts.
00:40:58
We saw the passion and the writing.
00:40:59
We saw the passion from the fans, and they really loved it.
00:41:01
And again, it wasn't so much they felt betrayed by, um, the Carolina Hurricanes owner.
00:41:08
And I'm, uh I'm just blanking on his name right now.
00:41:13
The I I know it was burned in a for a while, and I'm just I'm just trying to blind No, I'm no, I'm the same way I'm trying to figure it out myself.
00:41:21
Think is like, Don dinner signed, whatever.
00:41:23
Something like that.
00:41:24
But it's not really important because the point of this is, you know, people were outraged at him for pulling the money.
00:41:29
I mean, even though he was the one who kind of tried toe, save it to begin with, I mean, by putting money into it and and that right off the bat tells you that the A.
00:41:38
F despite the quality of product, it was gonna be so tough to succeed, because if you don't have the financial backing, you're just not gonna be able to do that.
00:41:44
The XFL has it.
00:41:46
So I think, you know, at the very least they're going to get through at least one season, and I think if they build off the mistakes of the A F learned, Fry said, Look, there is a market for spring football, and I know people keep saying Who wants to watch spring football? Well, guess what.
00:42:01
You may say that, and then all of a sudden you're gonna tune and be like, Oh, wow, this spring football, it's actually very entertaining.
00:42:06
I'm gonna watch it because A it's football.
00:42:08
We love it.
00:42:10
There is going to be a market for it.
00:42:11
It's, you know, again, this is not something that's gonna blow up overnight.
00:42:14
But, um, the XFL certainly has some advantages that other leagues in the past haven't.
00:42:20
And that's not only the financial and and TV rights deals that they have, but it's also the opportunity to learn from previous mistakes.
00:42:28
And, ah, you know, I I think again we can make jokes all we want.
00:42:33
People can say what they want about Vince McMahon, that bravado, the ego, all that stuff, the guys one hell of a businessman, and he knows how to make that knows howto build an empire.
00:42:42
So if there's anyone I I will trust Thio, uh, to to do this right the second time, it's gonna be him, and he's got some good people in charge this time.
00:42:52
You know, it's not about the name.
00:42:53
It's Oliver Luck.
00:42:55
Andrew Luck's father.
00:42:56
Obviously a lot of experience with the game of football.
00:43:00
They've decided to, you know, do things such as, you know, they're catering to what people want.
00:43:05
There's a large group of people.
00:43:07
I'm not one of, um, that want to change the NFL over time.
00:43:10
And you know, one of the things that they're doing is creating it more like a A a shootout in soccer, where it's a one off, like you have to get to the end zone back and forth, which again I get.
00:43:20
I get their entertainment.
00:43:22
That factor of it, Um, I understand why they're trying to do it, and again, it's catering nicely to to the group of fans that really want to see something else from over time.
00:43:31
And maybe they see if they like.
00:43:33
You know what? I don't like this.
00:43:34
Maybe the NFL has it right.
00:43:35
Or maybe we all see and like, you know what? This actually isn't so bad.
00:43:38
I'm not.
00:43:40
Let's let's just put it this way.
00:43:41
I'm gonna have a hard time believing that I'm very firmly for the current way the NFL does over time.
00:43:49
Another thing that they change and be a huge impact on this game is is changing the play clock from 40 seconds to 25.
00:43:57
And you know we talk about, you know, maybe football is not in the forefront when it comes to, ah, length of sport and length of time watching.
00:44:04
I think less people complain about their length of time because again, football is king.
00:44:09
But it always makes me laugh when they come out with graphics of actual football playing time compared to like commercials and time off.
00:44:17
And it's it's funny that you get like, 20 minutes of actual gameplay, you know, versus like the three and 1/2 hours you invest in watching this programme.
00:44:24
So, um, maybe it speeds up the game a little bit.
00:44:28
You know, the idea of being there's gonna be more offensive plays and people love often.
00:44:31
So I'm excited for this XFL and you know what? I'll be I'll be parking my butt on the uh on the couch tomorrow.
00:44:37
I'm watching some justice just to see what we got.
00:44:40
Yeah, definitely.
00:44:41
I think there's a lot of buzz around it, and I'm interested.
00:44:44
I know a lot of people are you mentioned the market for spring football.
00:44:47
I definitely think it's there.
00:44:49
I think people are not ready to let go with a game yet.
00:44:51
This gives you a nice alternative and again because the financial backing is there.
00:44:55
I do expect them to make it through at least one season, and I can't see Vince allowing this to fail after one season.
00:45:03
After the previous failure, the XFL would be too blemishes on his record and say what you will about the man's ego.
00:45:10
It motivates him to be the best he possibly can be.
00:45:13
I think this has a chance to have a little bit of legs.
00:45:15
Is it ever going new rival the NFL? No.
00:45:19
And I don't think he has the grandeur vision that he did before, maybe even the false bravado that he did before that this could rival the NFL.
00:45:26
I don't think that's what this is all about. It's an alternative.
00:45:29
It gives an extension to the season, and I think it could work.
00:45:32
And, you know, given the right opportunities and the right players in place, I think this could be a good alternative.
00:45:38
So give it a chance, folks, we're going to do that and we'll be talking about it a little bit next week.
00:45:42
I'm sure any chance we get to bring up it's weak, man.
00:45:45
I will take every opportunity to do so.
00:45:47
So thank you folks for tuning in.
00:45:48
It is Ah, it is time for us to go.
00:45:50
It is just about nine o'clock on the East Coast.
00:45:52
That means we're about to sign off.
00:45:54
So, folks Ah, we've had a great week.
00:45:56
Super Bowl.
00:45:57
Ah was last weekend.
00:45:58
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00:46:05
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