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Uh, How you doing, buddy? To Thursday morning. Unbelievable.
Ah, lot to talk about.
We do have some stuff to talk about in the world, in the NFL, no question about it.
And we do have a Super Bowl coming up in another week in a couple of days.
I know for us it's a little bit of a different type of a Super Bowl, you know, because it does not include our New England Patriots.
But there's still a game to be played, and we still have to do our due diligence.
But, uh, yeah, a lot of stuff going on in big news in the world of retirement.
And that seems to be dominating the morning headlines.
Yes, that's right. Of course.
It it is the patriot killer Eli Manning.
He officially will not.
Officially he is.
Ah will be announcing his retirement this upcoming Friday.
We're going to jump into that a little bit because I do think it's a pretty interesting conversation to be had about.
You know, what his what is Eli Manning's legacy? And to me personally, he might be the most like, confusing athlete.
Thio kind of narrow that down.
In my opinion, we'll get into that and you alluded to some other NFL news that, you know again seems to have been coming for a long time.
It will get into that as well.
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So Eli Manning, Um, actually, you know what? No, I'm not gonna start with Eli Manning because I feel like we're going to spend some time on that.
Um, I want to start with Antonio Brown, and it's not like that.
It's just I feel like we have to because, um ah, yet yesterday and this is an ongoing situation.
There was an arrest warrant issued for Antonio Brown that came with a no bond moniker, which again, and adds more ah, problems to his what what he has facing.
But basically it's three felony counts of AA battery.
This stems from a incident Thea.
Other day where, uh, or yesterday, where a moving truck ah was apparently rented.
You are hired by Antonio Brown to move stuff he had in storage from California to his home in Hollywood, Florida.
So, apparently, when the truck driver arrived, Antonio Brown refused to pay the $4000 bill.
Well, that escalated to the point where he threw a rock at the car.
And, you know, it was kind of ah, you know, a argument that just escalated very quickly.
Anyways, the moving company Antonio Brown and the driver of the truck apparently were under the understanding that Antonio would pay a an additional fee in order to Ah, you know, I kind of, you know, cool everyone down.
And, you know, in addition to that $4000 for the damage he did by throwing the Rockets truck, Well, um, apparently he wasn't going to be doing that.
And once again, the argument escalated to the point where ah, this is where it got serious, really serious.
And him in his trainer apparently, um, opened up the back of the truck themselves.
This was after Antonio Brown reportedly or allegedly got into the cabin of the truck and, uh, physically assaulted the driver and then the to him and his trainer were, ah reportedly taking items out of the truck and moving them themselves.
And of course, it wasn't all his stuff.
There were things from other people, and they apparently damaged some of their stuff.
So, um, it's been a big mess over there the last couple days.
I mean, really, the last several months, but his trainer has been arrested and released.
Antonio Brown has reportedly been just hanging out in this house, unable to be reached.
Ah, but now with the arrest warrant that, you know, kind of changes things.
And and we anticipate at some point today, um, he either turns himself in or the police will go in and get him because again, there is an active warrant for his arrest.
So ah, you know, again this if anyone, unless you've been living under a rock for the last seven months, um, or four or five months, you really I have seen this coming to some extent, and, you know, I think really, What? What's sad about all this? Is that just the the talent and the ability of this person and what he has been able to accomplish on the field over the last 67 years is you know, it just go.
It almost feels like it goes away because now you all have studying.
You're you're talking about him in the in the sense that you know he's a He's a guy that has some really bad mental health issues.
And his ex apparently also posted a pretty lengthy post on Instagram.
Kind of alluding to that and wishing him, Ah, it's saying basically, her and her kids are distancing themselves from him until he gets the help.
So, um, some people are at the very least are concerned about his health.
Um, but in my opinion, it seems like he has a lot of enablers around him that have allowed him to just continue to spiral out of control.
And this is a situation that could very well end up with him serving time, because again, this isn't something to laugh at.
And, you know, I know Mike Florio from pro football talk.
Could be, you know, a little dramatic sometimes.
But, you know, he made a comment saying like, this isn't too.
You know, this burglar burglary charge isn't too dissimilar From what Put o j in prison, um, him stealing his own things back and, you know, again having this being the property of the moving company.
There's a lot of logistics with that.
But, uh, yeah, this is just a This is a sad situation and it's like, You know, at this point, you know, that you just hope that he can figure out how to better himself moving forward because, you know, this is gonna get a little bit worse for him before it gets better.
I mean, there's just there's really one word and you clean you keyed in on it.
It's just it's extremely sad.
It's a really it's not.
This is no longer a punch line or something to kind of raise an eyebrow about and go.
Antonio Brown's at it again.
And you know the Internet means and you know, the snarky tweets air going out there about it, and people are gonna have their fun.
But at this core, this is a guy that is deeply troubled, and I think this really if there was any question before, and they're probably shouldn't have been.
But if there was any question beforehand about whether or not this guy does need serious help, this solidifies it.
This lets you know.
Yes, there is definitely something wrong.
And he does need to get the help that that is his ex wife and his, um his Children now are distancing themselves from that.
I don't want it.
They don't know it with with a married was in the next wife.
Or I think it was Yeah, I think it was just a partner.
I don't think it was the next part.
I wanted kids so exactly.
But the mother of his Children and his Children are now distancing themselves until he gets the help he needs.
You just hope that he's able to do it.
You made the point yesterday, and we've made this point off line when we spoken about this situation and that football really looked to be the glue that kind of held Antonio Brown together, and even that wasn't really holding him together all that well.
But the structure of that environment definitely gave him, I think somethingto look at and something to focus on without that in his life, you've seen the downward spiral that happened.
I mean, people will point to that and say, Oh, well, see, you know, the Oakland Raiders made the right decision.
The New England Patriots made the right decision.
They don't want this lunatic on their team, But you don't know if there was any guarantee that behavior like this would have resulted if he remained in those situations.
If he remained in Oakland, burned in New England, would he have straightened out and, you know, be able to at least hold it together a little bit to be able to do it.
Yeah, they're seedlings in there.
I mean, the phone conversation and the threatening text that he said he was under contract when he did that with the New England Patriots.
So there's elements of it.
He definitely needs help.
It's sad because he is a very talented receiver, but these are not nothing charges.
You alluded to that as well.
These could be serious charges, and they could lead to jail time.
And if that's the case, then you know you may be a long, long time. If ever.
If we ever see Antonio Brown on the football field in the NFL again.
And that would be a tragedy, because I will.
I'm sorry. It's wrong. Choice of words.
That would be That would be unfortunate eyes a better way for me to put it.
Because there is so much talent that he can give to a team if he was able to at least keep his mind in the right and in the right.
Ah, you know, frame.
So yeah, just unfortunate situation.
You just hope it doesn't escalate any further than it already.
As we know, you know, the warrant is out for his arrest.
It is an active warrants or the police do have the right to forcibly enter his home.
If he refuses to cooperate, you just hope that that would go a smoothly as possible.
Hopefully, cooler heads will prevail.
He'll turn himself in and he can put this start to put this behind him and start to ah to pay the price for whatever he's done.
So just an unfortunate and very sad situation in Florida yesterday saw it coming.
But you hoped it wouldn't.
But when the word broke that the arrest warrant was issued, I don't think anybody was really surprised Yeah, And look, What's that about? You brought that up because I I was obviously very strong advocate of him originally signing Excuse me, originally signing with the Patriots.
And then, of course, I was against them cutting him and releasing him.
I thought it was a knee jerk reaction.
And I stand by that, um, for number reasons.
And again, you kind of alluded to it.
And I do believe that football was the structure that he needed, although again that it was barely holding him together, apparently.
But it was certainly something that that kept him accountable.
The very, you know, to some extent, I mean, obviously, as we know about him, you know that there's not too many people that are ways you can hold him accountable.
Apparently, you know, until now, I mean again, this is a situation that's gone beyond, like you said, Jokes and means toe.
You know, this is a very serious situation that's affecting a lot of lives.
Whether it's his, his ex is his Children and his other family members and friends that, actually, you know, have tried to help him because I'm sure there are people there.
I mean, I'm not saying no one's tried to help him, but I think the majority of the people that he's around uh, 24 7 is our are people that are not there to, uh, better his life, but to more or less playoff what he's doing.
And that's not good for him.
And that's certainly, you know, again it.
We hope this situation opens his eyes a bit, and that's kind of what we're getting at, because again, this is this is something that's just not gonna end well, if it continues down this path and you think this is beyond football field, this is beyond ah, acting foolishly, you know, with the Raiders.
I mean, this is so far beyond that, but oh, yeah, we'll say we will see.
And I expect there's gonna be some news on that at some point today, whether, like I said, he turns himself in or the police go in and get him cause, you know, ah warrant with no bond is you know, it zm serious stuff cause again that you already know you're not bailing yourself out Once those once those cuffs get put on you and you get processed so from.
We'll see how it plays out.
Like I said, we'll probably learn today.
So, like, well, like we started to, we're going to shift gears a little bit and ah, well, you know begrudgingly will ah, heap praise on a one Eli Manning early some praise on him because, you know, obviously he is set to announce his retirement tomorrow.
Um, that that's the word that he's gonna hold a press conference.
And, um, you know, it's kind of good timing because I'm working on a prediction piece for free agent quarterbacks, and we we we will talk about another one here in a moment, but, um, yeah, I know everyone's dying to know where taste of hell's going.
Just hold your horses.
What's to Eli Manning first? Um, that's what she said.
Well, he's 30 War.
Yeah, actually, actually, no.
He like Drew Brees and Teddy Bridgewater, technically, not on the depth chart, because that would be true.
That's right there, Actually, not on the tree engine.
The racket actually don't have a quarterback on the roster, right? Well, Sean Kane slinging while he could definitely suit up, and he could probably throw a couple of past? Yeah, yeah, of course.
No, but like, it's a will mention that.
And that wasn't the free agent quarterback I was talking about, but, um, but yes.
Oh, Eli Manning.
Uh, obviously his time with the Giants were done. It was done.
And I think we all saw that.
I mean, the way.
Obviously you got to send out off and obviously Daniel Jones Jones and just all the all the cir***stances lead one to believe and rightfully so that he was not gonna be a giant.
The question was, was he going to a get an opportunity as a starter? And I I, you know, kind of threw out there a little bit yesterday.
The Annapolis cults.
Obviously I was wrong, and I'm glad it didn't put that in writing.
But we we got our answer.
And he was not interested in being a backup.
Reportedly, And I don't blame him.
I mean, what you know, why would you You know, your competitors, you're as accomplished as Eli Manning is.
You know, you're probably not gonna want to do that with with a new team on top of that.
So he has apparently made the decision to retire So he finishes at a very Eli Manning, 71 17 and one 71 17 to use.
But but to Super Bowl championships.
And he was a four time Pro Bowler.
And those two Super Bowl championships are what I believe is going to get him into the Hall of Fame. Now.
Me believing that's what's gonna get him in the Hall of Fame doesn't necessarily.
I mean, I think he's a Hall of Famer and I'm no look, I'm not saying I don't I'm not saying one way or the other right now.
Let's just put that way.
I'm just I'm going to make the case for both sides because to me, Eli is the most peculiar case.
Why don't I always try to say that? I don't know why I I know.
I can't say that word at least, like when I know I'm thinking about it.
And I always try to say it like once an episode, I just I don't get it.
Why don't I do this to myself? Mike, What am I doing? So you know, it's it's all good, you know? You say the word peculiar is it does come out.
It's a little tough coming off.
I do agree with you.
So you know it's difficult.
But it's all good, though.
You you work it out.
I mean, I'm purposely making myself look like an idiot, but, I mean, I guess that's that it's not too too new to my normal everyday life.
I do get on here every day, so that's kind of the same things.
Better appreciate it.
Yeah, well, you look a little better.
Yeah, that's right.
Okay, we're everybody.
Look, Eli Manning, uh, again, it's It's an instance of a quarterback who was has the longevity.
I mean, you can't knock that.
I mean, he's one of a few quarterbacks like Tom Brady, like, you know, others that have rarely missed.
Ah, time because of an injury.
Um, obviously, Brady only missed the season because of the knee injury.
And if if you hear that noise, that's my one of my cats rifling around behind me.
And I'm trying to make sure that she doesn't bring down the whole operation here because there's risk of that happening.
But, uh but no, look, I mean, you look at his record in 179 117 years ago.
You can't get in with the fight.
I mean, look at Look at Joe.
I mean, and here's and that's the deal. And that's the thing.
I mean, the standard were set.
The precedent was set so early on that it's it's It's hard to deny a guy like Eli Manning, especially because he has to, um, Super Bowls.
But Joe Nemeth getting in the Hall of Fame, one Super Bowl of 500 record and pretty modest statistics.
But, you know, we all know his impact on the game at the time, you know, and that plays a factor.
Um, I think that the Giants beating the Patriots in 2007 is a historically great beyond beyond just a normal Super Bowl win.
I think that's a historically great Super Bowl win, and I think that, you know, theoretically, could have been enough for Eli to to get on just on that and and again, you add a 2nd 1 in four years later.
Ah, that's going to strengthen your case.
But, um, his career basically winds down to that 2007 season and the throw the D D helmet catch and the the throat a Plaxico Burress in the back of the end zone and yes, Mike loose.
Loosen the noose there, buddy. It's okay.
It's gonna be over soon.
I know we hate talking about this, bro.
To Mario Manningham and Super Bowl 46 is one of the greatest those I've ever seen from any quarterback, let alone the line man, the situation, everything that that went into it.
And in the impact, I mean that that essentially one them Super Bowl, I obviously, there's place that needed to be made afterwards, but that play one than the Super Bowl and I knew it.
I remember that assumes that we're sitting there, and I I vividly remember sitting there watching, thinking back, obviously 2007 at the time.
And it's like, Okay, the Patriots are ups.
Don't let them get some quick yardage.
First play right down the sideline.
I literally was like, All right, that's it.
The Patriots losing.
There's no way, you know, and you could have got that.
And, you know, again, we'll bring up the pages here in a second, but, um, he kind of got that feeling real briefly in 2014 with the bobble catch with, ah, with Seattle.
But we all know how that played out, so we kind of made things a little bit better.
But going back to 2011 in Super Bowl 46 Eli making that throwing a Mario Manningham.
Um, again, Like I said, one of the best those I've ever seen in my life, you know, not just from Eli, but from any quarterback.
And, uh, so question is, is ah, do you think he's a Hall of Famer? And I'll let you let you answer that? Ah, well, Dwight and key will be all of Famer.
Yes, I do believe he will be a Hall of Famer.
And the reasons that you described those two Super Bowls will get him in the clutch performances.
The Post sees magic that he's had those Those were some of the best throws I've ever seen a quarterback make, particularly the threatening him.
I'm glad that you mentioned that over Tyree.
A lot of that was David Tyree pitting the Buddha ball it against his helmet.
Now a lot of that label the forces beyond our understanding.
Let's just put it that way.
I mean, that's just that was that was just excited.
You know what that was? That was Mercury Morris selling his soul to the devil.
So that way he could be the only undefeated, and nobody would have to be camped out in his yard.
Or I still don't know what that I was.
He had those ****ogies going all season long.
Well, now they're on the block.
Well, now they're in the driveway.
All right, So anyway, getting back to what it was.
And I'm having 2000 flashback t if you could see just the motion on my face right now, I'm not not saying much, but I I think my look says 1000 works. Yeah, absolutely.
And yet it's it's it's really it's It's pretty bad to bring this up, but no, all kidding aside, the throat a Manningham was amazing. Eight.
It's so amazing is that the Patriots knew it was coming.
You heard Bill Belichick on the sidelines in the most games when you heard the all 22 you heard all these NFL films, Mike, double everything.
You heard him say Make them go tanning him.
He knew what they were going to try to do, and manning zeal, stepped up and made that throw.
And you have given credit for it.
So will he be, ah, Hall of Famer East on that? Yes.
Do I believe he's a Hall of Famer? You know, I'm going back and forth on this, and I know it sounds like a cop out, but you look at the numbers.
You look at his overall resonate.
I mean, you mentioned the 1 17 1 17 It's funny that that's being brought up because I don't know about you, but I've heard wins or not a quarterback's that I don't know why.
The only for only for one player for one being considered Because it's not, it doesn't matter, remember? Oh, I'm sorry.
That's only if you that's only if you want to discredit him, being the greatest of all time.
Sorry about that.
I I didn't you know, my notes.
Not as good as they should be this morning, buddy, but you know it happens.
Two time Super Bowl M v P.
A 24 time pro Bowl you mentioned.
He sent it in NFL history with 57,023 passing yards.
That's pretty impressive as well.
And a lot of that is the longitude of his career.
He's seventh in NFL history with 366 passing touchdowns.
Pretty good stats, not anything that's going to, you know, like the world ablaze.
But I think it's it's something that I think is is definitely a factor as well.
His longevity streak of being able to start games is something that I think he maybe he doesn't get enough credit for.
He gets a lot of press for it, but I don't know if he necessarily gets the amount of credit that he deserves for that and being durable.
That's something that is definitely admirable for a quarterback.
Is that a Hall of Fame stat? Probably not, but something that I think you know deserve deserving of praise.
So his statistics don't really jump off the page.
And usually when you look at all of Famer, you look at whether or not they were a top three top four, maybe even top five performer in the league for the better part of their career.
I don't know if you can say that about Eli.
He had good seasons where he was among, if not the top single call.
It was in the league, but I don't think he had enough of them strung together to really warrant that type of prey peas.
So I can Stevie argument against it.
I would probably lean more toward him being all of Famer in terms of my opinion, simply because of the postseason prowess, the durability and the ability that he had of being able to carry this team when he needed to carry it.
But I can definitely see the argument against it, too.
When you take a look at just pure statistics, you probably look at them and say No, but I think the intangibles get him in and I'm sorry.
I've always wanted one of those guys that believe in tangibles and the eye test have to count for something when it comes to being a Hall of Famer.
So that's my long winded way of saying, I don't believe he's going to get in.
Yes, I think he should get in.
Uh, it's a close one for me, but ultimately I lean in favor of him. Guinean.
So, yes, on both counts.
And? And look, I always kind of make this, uh, point when I talk about the Hall of Fame in any all of fame and I always say, Like, Look, if if you put me in the chart in charge of all these hall of Fame's, I'm gonna strip them down and tear them down and restart from the beginning because I think, um, I think too often we get players that are really good that get into the holiday aim when this isn't supposed to be about just the really good.
It's just to be about the greatest of the greats.
And, you know, we just talked about, Ah, the Baseball Hall of Fame yesterday and you know, there's so many other issues I have with that, all the fame in particular, But, um, in football, the same thing.
I do feel like it's it's I don't want to say it's watered down.
That's it's that I think is incredibly disrespectful to the people that have, uh, made it.
And again, if you're even in the conversation of being a Hall of Famer, that means you've accomplished something in your career, and that's not the point.
I just feel personally that I could.
I could tear that on the whole thing and kind of start from scratch, really set some pretty high standards.
But that's just my personal begin.
And this, you know, again, it is for most Hall of Fame, because I do feel like it's it's it's kind of, Ah again, it's It's a great honor, of course, but I feel there's a lot of people in currently.
And, ah, that you know, in my opinion, probably aren't Hall of Famers.
Maybe a part of it is to that.
You know, every player that plays a good these it is called a future Hall of Famer without really, I mean, how can every team have a future? You know what I mean? It just doesn't make sense to me.
So with that said, based on the standards, um, of which the actual Hall of Fame bases there elect the selections and all that, I do think he's an absolutely a hell of a Hall of Famer.
Um, you know, you can sit here and located some of his numbers and maybe they didn't stack up.
But, you know, I brought up Joe Nemeth earlier.
Um, you look at Terry Bradshaw? Yes, he had four Super Bowls, but, you know, he was pretty much a one for one ratio touchdown to interception guy.
And you know his his stats Didn't you know, pop off the off the screen? But his ability in the in the clutches, most high intensity moments was what got him in and again.
I mean, four Super Bowls.
You're going to keep someone out of the Hall of Fame that has four Super Bowl rings.
But in terms of complimenting playoff success in and regular season success, Bradshaw certainly was more Eli than than, say, Peyton or or Tom or whoever who has multiple Super Bowls.
In addition to, you know, one of the top 1234 Statistically, you know it's statistically efficient quarterbacks of all time.
So ah, so for Eli again, you know, without the Super Bowl's, you'd probably say no chance in hell.
Um, that he's getting in the whole thing, but you have to Super Bowl runs where he went for no, the only two playoff runs where they want a game you want a game as a giant? You you go on and win the Super Bowl every other time it was one and done, but those those those runs were were were legendary.
And and I do think there is a lot more weight and beating the 2007 pick Patriots.
And there is the, you know, even the 2011 Patriots or the 2013 Broncos or you know what I mean.
It's just It was one of those things where, you know, if you were to beat that team in the Super Bowl, given the cir***stances, that's that's Ah, that's a historically significant moment in NFL history.
And I think, and of course, we we have to live to help me catch pretty much, you know, every day of our lives that somehow pops up and find yourself into our daily repertoire.
But yeah, I mean again, it's it'll be interesting.
I mean, I have no doubt that he will end up being a Hall of Famer.
Um, I just like I said, if I had, if I had my way, I would rip down all these Hall of Fame's and, you know, start from scratch, and I'd make my own selections.
But not everyone agrees with me on that one.
That might be one of my more stronger.
I'm just gonna get you screw everything up to have opinions, but we'll see.
That's not really screwing up.
I actually think I agree with you more than I disagree with you on that.
I think there needs to be a love.
We talked about this with the baseball yesterday, and we talked about, you know, the voting and how sometimes you know, people that have that hold the fate of these athletes in their hands when it comes to being all of Famers, sometimes that that complex of being the Almighty really kind of seeps in.
And you don't stop and think about what it really needs to be all of fame or what the actual definition is.
Take that seriously.
Instead of letting either personal or um, personal feelings or personal ambition get in your way.
I think a lot of times that happens, I think a lot of times these guys do it to make statements and what not and I think it's really I think it's a very poor way to ah do that when you you know you're gonna penal buys a, uh, an athlete that worked about a yard simply because you want to make some sort of a statement about who should be off Amy Rocha, the unanimous.
It's really it's disingenuous.
And that's what gets people having such a contest to us.
Get out of the media.
I'm glad dimensional runs up to those guys.
That's something I didn't mention in something I think really deserves a lot of mentioned for that.
It comes to the line the inning.
I'm sorry, the disconnected thought, but I wanted to bring a coincidence of Manning, but that's kind of where that's another thing that really is a feather in his cap.
When you take a look at what it means to be a Hall of Famer and why I ultimately and you ultimately believe he will get in those runs up to those Super Bowls were pretty impressive.
The Giants were essentially a team that not a lot of people believed were going to be the team that would face New England Patriots or at you know, in 2011.
It was between the Patriots and the Ravens, a lot of people believe that the Giants didn't have what it took to even make the game in both seasons, and Eli was able to do it. Both times.
Brought the Giants from really having, like, almost obscura type season, where they sort of backed into the playoffs.
Weren't really ah, jug or not, you know, at all in the regular season and then in the postseason, and they turned it up and became the best team in football.
So that has to count for something so agreed.
I think those runs were a big part of it, too, and I'm glad you mentioned because he deserves a lot of credit that well, and just look to the Week 16 game.
And going into that, I think when people saw the season in full there like, there's no way the Giants are gonna beat them.
This is a shoo in for the Patriots ago 16 you know, and that mentality changed very quickly.
It went from Oh, the Giants are definitely gonna lose to Well, I mean, we're talking about a slugfest in Week 17 between two teams that had nothing to play for.
Outside of, you know, the Patriots wanting to go 16 and because I do believe at that time both teams had their, you know they were set, you know, playoff wise.
Now this isn't say that they've been having all time.
You know, said a defensive players, Let's let's be real here.
But Team was No.
One expected that team to go in and beat the page.
It's not the Patriots team that beat an undefeated colds team and undefeated Dallas team, and you know what I mean? It was just it was, and he was a big part of that wind.
And you can make a very strong case that them or I'm sorry, not the Wind, but Thea, you know, coming close in that week 17 game.
It's like you can really make the case that that game propelled them to.
That's terrible because without that game, maybe they don't come in with the confidence and the quiet confidence that they had into the Super Bowl, where, you know, they really just punched the Patriots in the mouth.
And so again, a lot a ah, interesting dynamic when it comes to Eli Manning and, you know, again, I fully expect him to be a Hall of Famer.
Just, you know, maybe maybe one of these days in the off season we can experiment and creator Home Hall of Fame's we'll see.
We'll see how that would be nice.
The F B c P Hall of Fame.
That's right, That's right.
And, ah, we're about to talk about someone who most definitely will get in the Hall of Fame.
And I could make a strong argument that they should do away with the five year Wait a second, this guy retires.
Which, by the way, won't happen the season just just saying Just be real.
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We'll be seeing a bunch of tweets about that today, and ah, we'll certainly be talking about that more and more as the weeks go on, and as we closer to that day next week as well.
So, uh, I alluded to the fact that we're gonna talk about another quarterback that happens to be a little bit longer in the tooth.
Um is most certainly a Paul of fame player and perhaps a guy that deserves his own hollow thing.
Ah, on top of doll with me.
So, uh, this time, Brady.
And of course, of course.
I mean, we've gone four days without talking, you know, without you know, we haven't really gone too much into Tom Brady and the Patriots the last four days.
I mean, we've mentioned it, but not not to up our normal extent.
So, you know, you gotta figure that this was coming.
So ah, yesterday.
Ah, at when asked.
Ah, Robert Kraft said they plan on bringing Tom or they want to bring Tom Brady back.
Tom is obviously ah said he's not going to retire.
That is out of the question.
So anyone to bring some retirement is kidding themselves.
He will be playing X season.
Um, look off again.
All that all the lead is all the tea leaves point to him returning to the Patriots.
Not only his actions the voice of Robert Kraft or the words of Robert Kraft that just that the common sense nature of this whole situation.
I mean, people talk about, Ah, you know Tom Brady as if he were Philip Rivers.
I mean, talk about Philip Rivers that way.
I mean, he clearly is planning on, you know, he moved away, and he's clearly planning on moving different teams.
I mean, this isn't talking about Brady Year were so to me.
And I've maintained this throughout this whole ridiculous situation that he will be returning, and it makes no sense for the team or the player to have on a short of them.
Thinking Jets Stadium is ready to take over tomorrow are starting on week one next year.
There's no logical reason to not have Tom Brady under center and people wanting a po Well, they consigned Andy Dalton. Jesus.
I mean, don't I must just threw up in my mouth saying that that name and combination and it's like, oh, thinking really is amazing.
What people will double believe we learned it in this business.
Buddies see it all the time.
Uh, you know, you throw garbage, begins the wall and I could say something else.
This is a family show here on a t least.
It's an early morning show.
If this was late night, you know, maybe, but it's early morning show, I should say, but, you know, there might be some families listening good family time listening to you and me, all right.
About a fireplace that if you're if you're spending your family days listening Nice.
But in any case, you know, you know, way put out.
Yeah, I I think so.
So just wait todo I like it. Exactly.
What? Well, we get on camera.
We're gonna lose a lot of viewers.
Oh, it's just the nature of the way things are going to go.
People are gonna be horrified, I think the the the old right.
A censor. Censor.
You know, every time I say something, something that appropriate.
Okay? You know, Steve, you're shares will come out absolutely of the other.
The the The reaction will probably be like when waltz, you know, pull the sheet back in.
The Godfather revealed several.
That, folks, is the longest time we've ever gone Tween godfather references in my particular as its long I was I was going to say I mean, this is like the first Godfather reference.
I think I've heard all week to be honest with their like has been, like, the first time, my whole week that it has.
So it's definitely one of those That's impressive.
I mean, I'm not going to say this that you don't wantto You don't want to go over there top with him.
You want to be able to, Tina, you want you want to space them out so that people know what's coming in all actuality way.
We're talking about straight.
He's supposed to make a point.
Yeah, well, generally, when I realized I don't have a strong point that make I distract the audience with pointless banter and that's what we just did there.
But I d'oh but way were talking about Tom Brady.
Yes, and yes, absolutely.
Ian did make Thea reference and yes, T m z reporters shouted out, Hey, Bob, we're gonna bring Tom back this year, and we plan to.
So take that with a grain of salt, folks, because there are a lot of logistical issues that have to be worked out in order to get it.
I do agree. The tea leaves.
We've gone on record.
Both of us have gone on record.
I'm not shying away from it.
We believe at the end of the day there's really virtually no chance he doesn't come back.
Thio Thio, New England I mean, I guess the slight chance does exist, and I and I always leave that door open.
I always tell people, you know, there's a possibility, depending on how things work out, but it just doesn't.
Let's say there's zero sense in him not coming back in New England.
Aiming found zero chance but zero sense in him not coming back to New England.
He still by far the best quarterback for this team.
He's still by father.
I mean, you know, you mentioned Yeah, that that's how this all started.
He and an adult, and all of a sudden it just like, you know, the bile started coming up in my throat, you know, it's like it really is just unbelievable what people will sell and put out there to try to create controversy and re eight clicks, and ultimately that's what they're trying to do.
with both, but it will use your eyes.
Use your common sense.
And it looks like at this point that Robert Kraft his plans for 2020 include Tom Brady.
Craft is not a guy that just throws haphazard.
Ward's out there.
Say what you will about Robert Craft in some of the you know, the the hits that his public reputation has taken and in the course of the last calendar year.
But this is a man that still uses his words very carefully.
He's not a stupid man by any stretch of the land.
He knew that when he says We plan to, that was gonna go viral.
That was spread like wildfire and it did.
And in this case, I think a lot of it was strategic.
I think it put the media on notes and says, Well, that's our plan.
I think a lot of it and it's also a volley as well.
I think that, you know, the people will have to remember that a lot of what's been come out of Tom's camp has been Well, you know, I I'd love to.
I'd love to do this, but you know, it's up to the process.
It's up to this.
It's almost like he's putting it and putting it in the Patriots corner like, yeah, I want it.
Oh, I want to do this But you know, it's something that it's really it's up to them.
It's up to their plan.
Return the volley for serve.
Yesterday he went back and said, This is our plan to So now it's going to be beat.
The two sides have to come together, and that, to me, is where the interesting part of this concomitant But, uh, ultimately yeah, I do believe he'll be back.
I think there's there's no question about it in my mind and we'll see if we're right.
Hopefully, we're right because they know Patriots Nation is hoping where Right? Well, I I've never been more confident in anything I've ever believed in my life in this.
So, um, if that's the case, if I'm wrong going, then well, I'll never speak of it began and and you can remind me of it whenever you want.
But I'll just deny, deny, deny, delete any record of me ever saying it.
No, like honestly, like I said, from from the get go from the jump from this whole situation from from at any point during last season.
I've always felt this, and it's just again.
The guy has said repeatedly he plans to play till he's 45.
His play, in my opinion, has not been affected by his age.
Age was more or less the cir***stances, and I think people are starting to kind of realize that a little bit.
At least you know, his biggest detractors? A Really Some of them, I mean, they're still people that are so far off the ledge that you know that they're never coming back there.
They're past the point of no return at this point.
So they're so Doug D in their hatred for Tom Brady that nothing that the guy does could could, you know, change things.
So, uh, but for me, it's it's It was very clear that it wasn't an age factor because to me, if if if his age was a factor at a great impact on his play and and caused his play to Dipper's quote unquote staff, it's the dip.
Then you'd see it very noticeable.
You'd see a very ah sharp decline and arm speed and location and all that and footwork and so on and so forth, and we didn't see that in some cases, like his footwork, it got better again.
At 42 years old, he got better inside the pocket.
So for the Patriots going out and and and something how, ah, throwing money at some veteran quarterback that as either a underperformed or B been a mediocre at best, quarterback to take over it makes absolutely no sense.
And those who are champion guys like Marx marry OTA or Andy Dalton.
I do remember hearing Eli Manning couple weeks ago.
So more evidence that, you know things are just being thrown up against the wall.
Ah, you know, I'm just seeing what sticks and clearly nothing has really stuck or will stick in the long run because at the end of the day, he's gonna sign a two year deal.
He's gonna be here for a season, maybe two.
And that will be the end of Tom Brady era.
Not this year, not, you know, going out, throwing a pick six and in a wild card weekend game.
You know, it's it's just it's one of those things.
It's like I just I just need this to be over So not not to not to ease my my, uh uh, uncer*****y.
Yeah, I'm very certain about the conclusion of this.
I just need it to be over to end the speculation because it's it's driving me absolutely insane.
Yeah, it really is crazy.
It's what I'm doing, right? Absolutely.
And then that's exactly you know, that's exactly what it's doing to everybody.
It's either before.
Sorry, before you jump into that and you know part of that, too, is Drew Brees, the exact same situation, much, much more.
Marketer, given their quarterback situation and again a mention Philip Rivers much that what they're describing time is much more appropriate for those two.
But you know, Tom Brady's getting headlines and you don't hear people about those two.
Or at least, and there's a lot of reasons for that.
I mean, first of all, the main reason for it is that Brady is those polarizing athlete in professional sports, and I think more so than LeBron James.
I think a lot of people have looked at LeBron James as being the most poeple arising.
But there isn't some middle ground with LeBron.
I don't see the ground with Brady.
You either love him or you have.
And it's it's mind boggling to me that a guy that has really done everything in his career the right way.
And, yes, folks, I am talking about the deflated foot balls, which he never did, which was never is fault.
And anybody with a brain knows that.
And now ESPN published just this article five years later that says that all yeah, was probably much ado about nothing.
Yeah, we're Was that five years ago when you guys were raking in ratings based on a load of garbage? But anyway, pal Tigress, Well, those don't You don't want my don't digress too much.
I I want I want to read something out there and it was something someone shared and it I told I told people online, since right up to flake it, I have to do it. I have to do it.
But for those who are, if there's any Doubters out there that this was a sham, or at least they didn't you know that the Wells report was was an absolute fraud.
Um, this I was at the end of the Wells report.
Now you tell May, What does this tell you? And, you know, I'll let you respond in a minute.
In some, the data did not provide a basis for us to determine with absolute cer*****y whether there was or was not tampering, As the ****ysis of such data ultimately is dependent upon assumptions and information that is not certain, that got Tom Brady suspended for four games and labeled a cheater intentionally, who intentionally sucked out a scheme to deflate footballs.
Now to me, you know what that tells me? We got Jax ****.
You know, we got nothing. That's right.
Way we had a horrible process of of maintaining football's the wheat.
We were basically assuming that what Walt Coleman said, you know, when he said a lot of things, sometimes contradictory, we had just assumed that he was right, and that's what it was.
So again, you brought up to Deflate Gate and it just I saw this last night, so it was so very relevant.
I had to bring it up.
Um, so for those you out there that who are afflicted Gate Truthers.
They were caught red handed, and I know a few of them out there.
And I'm thinking about one in particular that I've invited several times on this program to come discuss his thoughts and feelings.
But he has avoided it constantly, and we both know who it is.
I'm not going to say, because I don't want to give him any sort of of ah, attention or anything like that.
But those air you out there who may or may not or may believe that the Patriots intentionally deflated footballs and the NFL proved it.
Just read that last sentence or that the last paragraph and tell me what you think.
Objection believe, you know, get your bias out of the way.
Get your hatred for the Patriots out of the way and tell me what that says.
And, uh, you know, if you still believe that, that proves that the Patriots cheated that I don't know what the time I'll give you a ah, give you a recommendation for a mental hospital because that's essentially what you will need.
So I'm sorry, Mike, I know you're probably making a great point, but that I had I had to read that out loud and given the platform, I wanted people to hear it.
And if you're, you know again, if it changes your mind hopeful plea, hopefully hopefully it doesn't give you Come back to the good side, the rational Well, I will say this.
Yes, I was planning on making a point.
The point that I was thinking it's not as good as the point you just made.
So you know what? You took the four, and you deserve that.
I'm so glad you said that.
Awesome job, my friend.
Thank you for saying it because it had to be said and again we go back to Brady and we say, You know, this guy that's done the best it he's He's really I need a career out of being a class act out of doing everything on the football field the right way.
And still, there's that hatred.
It's simply because this is what the public wants.
They want to feed into misery, P and and chaos in New England.
They want to believe that that dynasty is gonna come crumbling down.
We saw it this year there when they lost to the Tennessee Titans it was they could not wait to bury the Duck Dynasty.
That's it. It's over.
It's done. They're finished.
There is Brady's leaving fella checks, upset.
He's gonna leave.
Crap's going to sell the team.
They're gonna move him to ST Louis again.
What is this stuff that's going around and saying, You know, it's just It's absolutely ridiculous.
People will buy into it again.
It's the ****ogy I love to use.
It's the oasis in the middle of the desert, and they drink the sand.
They don't drink the sand because they're thirsty.
They drink the sand because they don't know the difference They want.
You believe that, and that's something they're hoping for.
So that's why you've seen so much attention on Brady status.
Not so much John Breeze.
It's really all of about the reactions that you get from the two sides of the polarizing coin.
The people that hate.
But Brady want to believe that this is going to believe his demise, and this is going to bring about the end of the Patriots.
Patriots fans are gonna tune in because they want to defend their team.
They want to defend their quarterback.
So it's a win win situation When it comes to a lot of these quote unquote national shows, they want to throw, well, idiotic rumors like, Oh, Bill Della checks gonna leave and go coach another team that Tom Brady comes back.
What team is he gonna coach? There are no vacancies right now.
Does anybody do any fact checking over there? What do they just go? Well, Tom Brady's gonna leave, and that's that's the bottom line, because these days he's not happy in New England.
Anybody see that? It's not that bad right now.
That's a pretty bad.
Yeah, that's really But I think everybody knows what I was doing in that.
In that case, I mean, I was gonna stick to your radio.
Anything to play for the winglet wall. Go.
Hey, Mike, how's your How's your health? How is your health doing? It's it's a Their blood pressure is very high this morning, buddy. Very.
I'm you know, I'm doing my breathing.
Everything's going okay, but you know, it really said Rodney Rodney how shelf eyes Terrible.
You know, my doctor told me.
He said, Doctor, I'm afraid I'm gonna die next advance.
But you know I go see him every week and, you know, it's It's terrible.
It's awful, you know? You know, I told Mrs Duck, Do you know my life's not existed? I'm thinking about getting a second face like yours. You don't need it.
How? That wife of yours.
I'll tell you know what? I don't get no respect for my wife either.
You know, she had to talk about my *** life.
She could be down to twice a week.
But I'm not that bad.
You know, some guys you could completely, uh, unfortunately, we only have a few minutes, so we can't go on a on a whole tangent like that.
But, uh, yeah, I had to bring it up to save you from your your terrible Boston awful radio announcer voice.
So no way. No, it wasn't it.
Actually, it wasn't a Boston radio personality, Okay, Even worse.
Yeah, it wasn't richly blessed.
So you know what? We'll give it up to everybody's imagination.
That wants to what? Ah, too determined.
Why was your talking about that situation? So Oh, that's good.
That's good stuff.
But, uh, look so yeah, as a lot of Hall of fame talk today Uh, quite a bit of football because here we go.
We got one more episode this week, tomorrow at 8 a.
And then next week, we will really be diving into Ah, what we have coming up in terms of Super Bowl matchups, the factors that Taylor that everything you can think of we're gonna break it down.
I'm gonna give you are very, be uneducated opinion on the matter.
And then hopefully one of us, one of us, we will, will be be somewhat right, and we will brag about it from from here until the end of time.
So, Mike, it's been a pleasure today.
What of the Eli Manning talk? No, not really.
But respect what? Let's don't respect.
Uh, no, we will blow.
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But thank you too, buddy.