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like a J.
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D.
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Martinez, who can't even play outfield anyway.
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Or Nick Cassidy, Janos says, was more of what I meant.
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Since he's a free agent, you're not gonna get somebody like that.
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So the question is, Are you gonna be able to get somebody who can play center field who's still a free agent right now Who's enough of an upgrade from Gardner and taking everything to account? Also what he what he provides for them in the room? Because that is a consideration for them.
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Is there somebody out there that can do that? I'm not sure that there is.
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So for me, it's more of the safe play to bring back Gardner unless you want it.
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Unless you want to swing some blockbuster trade centerfielder, unless you want to get in the Starling Marte a sweepstakes, and I don't think the Yankees are willing to do that, so I don't I don't think there was a whole heck of a lot they could have done to upgrade from Gardner.
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This is a little bit of they have a familiarity with him.
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He knows their system.
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He's you know, Boone likes him.
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So I think is a good sign, but I'm just wondering, that's a lot of money.
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And I think you know, this is a type of player from me that you're going to see that significant drop off quickly.
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All of a sudden, those skills are going on a road.
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He's not the youngest failures anymore.
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We thought that might happen right here.
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So how had it happened one more year? Yeah, they're they're betting on it.
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I mean, also, they have Mike Talk man who might be playing more center field next year.
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Who's playing left field at times last year.
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They also have Ah, Fraser.
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Who knows what they're gonna end up doing with him.
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They're all about having flexibility in the outfield.
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So I think Gardner just fit in there.
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Did you get paid a lot? Yeah, I think the extra year was was definitely the surprising part of that, too.
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And the options hits coming back in June also.
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And if you're betting that if you're saying that Gardner might fall off fast if he feels all fast by June, you've got another option in Hicks.
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Also, to come back and take over when and if that drop off happens, agreed uh, former Met.
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Looks like he's found a landing place.
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What do you think he'll do with the Texas Rangers? And that's Todd Frazier, all, man.
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Ah, it really all depends on what their role is for him.
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If he's gonna be a backup, if he's gonna be a superstar, but they're gonna if they're gonna start him and also anybody that goes to the Texas Rangers now for the new ballpark, whether it be pitching, you gotta know.
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And we won't know yet how that new ballpark is gonna play.
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Is it going to be a hitter's ballpark like the old place was or because it's indoors? Is it going to be a picture's haven? So, uh, I don't know what his role is going to be, but I expect him to do what he has always done here with the Mets.
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They'll provide a little bit of pop here, and they're one in the one.
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Every once in a while, I play good defense and you do whatever they need to do.
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And I'm sure that Frasier will show up in a cowboy hat because you forget Jersey now he's a Texan, through and through, and I wouldn't be surprised to see that Well, you know, he has all that issues.
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He'd be happy to get out of New Jersey with all those turkeys that have been on his property over there.
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That's what I want.
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That's what I was wondering.
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Are there wild turkeys in Arlington or just the wild turkey that comes in a bottle? You know, with Todd coming off the market? Obviously, that just ups the ante for Josh Donaldson and, you know, Springs twins and the Nats.
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Are the guys still in on that? Where do you think he ends up, And what do you think the size of his contract is gonna be? I think it's going to be pretty, pretty large.
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I think, uh, you know, I think he's gonna go back to the Braves ultimately.
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But I also think it ties into what teams are swirling around in terms of the Nolan Baron Otto sweepstakes, are they? They're gonna be a team that's going to be able to afford him in cash and prospects that will affect Josh Donaldson landing spot.
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I don't think the Braves will.
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We'll lock in on him, but I think other teams might I think you could see the Nationals or maybe even the twins get desperate and look into are not a which would, which would make a brave Donaldson, really, in all that, all that much more likely to happen.
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I think when it comes down to it will come down to the Braves.
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I don't know if are not gonna get traded.
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I think the price is gonna be really high for for a player who might opt out in two years.
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So I think it's gonna be I think it's gonna be interesting to see if he gets traded.
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I think I think our notto and Donaldson will what will weave their way into each other.
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And I think what happens with one will will affect what happens with the other.
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And once those two Corman off the table, does that help the Mets in the Valley of the ability to maybe move Lowry to somebody? Probably.
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Although I think teams will see Lowry is less of a starter and more is a super cell, especially coming off that injury.
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Uh uh.
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Again, a team would have to be a team that misses out on both of those guys will have to be desperate enough to say, Okay, Larry is a is the next best option out there, and we'll certainly take a chance on him at that price, especially since they're willing to spend 25.
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30 million on either Donaldson are on auto.
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So for half that could happen.
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I still think the chances are pretty low, but that might improve its the chances of unloading him a little bit.
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So not only the Astros scandal, but now reported again this week.
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The Red Sox scandal.
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With the replay room being so close, do you think we're gonna get to a point where they remove that room completely from near the clubhouse or the stadium completely, and they let just Chelsea deal with it? They're gonna have to do.
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They're gonna have to do something with that.
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I'm surprised that Chelsea doesn't handle it all to begin with.
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I do think they're gonna have to make some changes.
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I think when when you look at Thea, the new allegations about the Red Sox stealing signs using video during their world championship season, I think this puts more of a focus on Alex Cora and perhaps even less of a focus on the Astros.
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If you can believe that now, there are reports that the Astros were going to get hammered hard, which I, which I truly believe.
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But now that you that you follow the patterns here, that is great actually went from the Astros in 2017 through the Red Sox in 2018 whose common threat? It's Alex Core.
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And I think that's what they're taking their time with now.
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I think that's why we haven't found we haven't heard of, ah, concrete suspension for the Astros yet.
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I think with these new allegations, they're looking a little harder at Cora, and I think that they're gonna take the next few weeks to investigate what exactly his role waas in both of these situations and then decide what punishments are gonna be handed out.
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You know, it's interesting because you take a look over the course of decades, every sport as its code.
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So cheating is against the code, and so many players have been traded from the Astros organization of the Red Sox organization.
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You would think the second they get traded, it would become public knowledge.
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Why do you think this was kept so under the rug when so many players have gone on to different organizations from those two teens.
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I think, well, I think it's what you said it was the code and I think it's it's also wait, listen.
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Stealing signs has been around for years.
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It's been around since the forties fifties, however far back you want to imagine stealing signs.
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It has been a part of a lexicon, a baseball.
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But now you're talking the use of video, the use of technology, which makes it that much easier.
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I think players stay silent because they're not really sure what a rather video usage of sign stealing falls into that code or not.
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And nobody wants to.
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Nobody wants to be seen as the tattletale as it were, except Mike Fires, obviously.
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But I think I do think that people really don't know.
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There's a gray area about hey with us under the whole sign, stealing, being around for decades, that part of it, and what bells under the new, less more frowned upon way of stealing signs, which is the video.
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I think that I think there's a lot of confusion there and nobody wants step on anybody's toes and sc**** away, but the line where the code begins as it were.
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All right, Johnny.
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Thanks a lot.
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John Carpenter heard here each and every week over 5 40 AM Sports Talk New York We're gonna take a quick break on the other side.
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Hard to believe.
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But 51 years ago today, the New York Jets one their last championship there on Lee Championship.
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We're gonna speak to a man from that team, Randy Rasmussen.
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So keep it tuned.
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A beautiful Sunday here in New York 51 years ago was a much more exciting Sunday here in New York as Ah, it was the day the New York Jets had won the Super Bowl.
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And joining us now is a man who played offensive guard for 15 seasons for the New York Jets, beginning with the 1967 American Football Week season.
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He played for the Jets in their NFL championship game victory over the Oakland Raiders in 1968 and started in the third F L NFL Championship game.
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Known as the first Super Bowl, actually, in which the Jets defeated the NFL's Baltimore Colts, he was the last of the starting Jets players in that game to retire from playing pro football, playing his final game in the 1981 playoffs against the Buffalo Bills.
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After retiring in 1982 he was a Jet's radio game ****yst for five years.
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He also did some NFL games for CBS.
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Radio Network is a pleasure to welcome. 1969.
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Super Bowl champion number 66 Randy Rasmussen to Sports Talk New York Hey there, Randy.
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I'm doing fried.
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Mark. How you doing? Doing good.
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So you know it's 51 years to the day of that Super Bowl win.
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Come on, please don't remind it is a long time.
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But before we talk about that game, let's talk about how you became a jet.
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So the legend goes that you got hooked on football when you were, You know, it was three days after Christmas.
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Your parents farm got there first TV.
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You and your brother settled in to watch.
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Johnny Unite is an Allen, a meaty beat.
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The Giants in overtime for the championship.
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What was it about that game in that moment? Made you want to be a professional football player? Well, I guess that was way.
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We're leaving.
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And now we were Me and my two brothers are both Baltimore Colts fans.
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E I don't know why, but, uh, we used to go now Before we got our TV, we used to go down to the little town of Elba and the postmaster.
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We went to his house because he had a TV, and that's every Sunday at men go to church.
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Then they go down, watch football game down there, like all we got to watch it on our own house on that on that overtime game.
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And well, that was It was exciting, incredibly exciting game we were.
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We were very into it.
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So you mentioned about Alba and how small it is.
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Your high school was so small because of that, the football team didn't have that many players.
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And because of that, you actually played guard, quarterback and fullback.
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In high school, you went on to the University of Nebraska at CUNY.
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What went into the decision to play at your knee? Well, that was that was pretty easy.
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Um um, that was kind of first of all, being a small school playing eight men football.
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We didn't have films or anything like that.
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All the colleges that gave out scholarships, the biggest scholarships you had to have films that then everything like that.
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So there is no place to go but Connie.
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And at that time card handed, well, you know what? Not at that time this year.
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They did actually won the Mineral Mineral Springs Bowl rotten Missouri.
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And, you know, we were There were a football powerhouse in the N A I a and the coach out there.
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I came to see me, and he wanted me.
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He wanted me real badly.
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So we went there.
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My parents could afford it.
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And, uh, so an animus. Fortunate.
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It was fortunate because, you know, he was a very, very good football coach.
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And so I had I had good coaching in college.
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You play there all four years.
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The team, while you were there only was five games over those four years.
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Your freshman year, they make it to the championship semis.
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You're the team captain in your junior and senior year.
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One year you actually got to play with your two brothers.
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What was your college experience like? And what did coach out Zach mean to you? and your development at that point in your career? Well, l Hickman was was is a legend is a legend, And, uh, I can't I can't express enough.
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How good of a a coach in.
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Ah, Father figure and and everything else that the guy waas so that, you know, he was very important.
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And, you know, I think the kids came the car anywhere.
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They a lot of more than the farm kids like me.
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And so we had a bunch farm kids out there that you know, really like play football way Did well be.
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We did Well, So what do you remember about draft day? And how did you find out that the Jets had picked you, believe it or not? Um uh, another.
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This is 1967.
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So please understand how the key chain happened.
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I have was in class and I came back, and I used to work for a farm of a farmer.
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You know that? They're in the summer Times.
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I'd be a labour on the farm.
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He heard me on his tractor radio.
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He own a tractor radio on the local station there that I had been drafted.
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He immediately came in and called And, um, uh, Kiki kept calling until I finally got back to my apartment, and I still haven't heard anything ready.
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You just got drafted by the New York Schatz and Oh, my God, Are you okay? And and so that really that's that's the first I heard of it.
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And then well, then everything started happening then everybody was calling then.
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But it was my Oh, boss, no boss.
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So to say you were confident that you're going to make the team would be a stretch.
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In fact, you actually signed a contract to be a teacher in the oh, my heart's school district after you had been drafted by the Jets.
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Is that right? And why? Well, that's it.
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You know, um, looses there's a well, first of all.
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Yeah, I didn't know.
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I'm 12th round draft choice.
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I don't I don't know from you, your odds are not are not terribly positive.
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Um, and you know that Oh, my and the Omaha public school system was a really that's one of us.
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One of the main teaching jobs on a math major with, you know, a straight A's.
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And they come out and they And they said, Hey, we want you to teach math and all the time and they pay in You would pay you quite a bit more than the schools around, so I said, Well, yeah, I think I want to do that.
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Just Justin.
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I didn't tell him, just in case I didn't make it with the Jets.
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But, um, it's so so, yeah, I had numbers went back.
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A plan that was back in plan.
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We're talking with 19 600 Super Bowl champ Randy Rasmussen here on 5 40 AM Sports talk.
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New York in***bent Sam DeLuca would injuries me in an exhibition game, and you take over the starting position and play there that season.
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The following season was a tough one.
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At first, you actually thought of leaving camp.
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But George, our senior, then the head of the Jets player personnel, talked you out of it.
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What do you recall about that conversation and what did he say to you that convinced you to persevere and go through what you're going through? Well, you know what happened was we talk Bob Kala meanie who retired from Houston, and he was an all Pro guard down there Well, we've talked him out of retirement to come in and play for us, So you don't know.
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You know, I'm thinking, Wow, this is This is not this is not good.
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And, you know, we kind of we kind of split the duties a little bit and split.
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And then, of course, you know what happens at the end of the year.
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Sam Malone.
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Sam.
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What kind of fella fell apart and we had to make the switch with her moving out, and I moved to right guard. Cost.
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Ali tally played.
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He was the left guard.
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And so you couldn't You couldn't change him.
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Me? I was I was.
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I moved both positions right and left, and so I moved to right guard.
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But George was George was e m.
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He's the guy that came out.
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The carny scientist missing in my contract, signed and everything else.
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He was just I just really like George and And when he heard that I was a little consumed, he just said, Randy, hang in there.
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Your time, Ms Covered, Your time is coming, is what he said and just just hang in there.
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Don't don't get discouraged.
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And I didn't and my time came a lot pretty quickly.
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Them And it came in a huge game because that moved a mention.
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Well, with Sam Walton was in the a f l title game against the Raiders when Coach No, no, no, no, no.
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Uh, we've made to switch on the last game of the lighting.
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Okay, Go ahead.
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Yeah, I'm sorry.
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I don't mean that.
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I'm just telling you that.
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And I played that the championship game and right guard and the Super Bowl.
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By the time I got the Super Bowl, I had some experience of right guard, right? Little marks, but that what I'm saying is that such a crucial time last game of the season and then the a f l title game.
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What did you make of that decision? And how did he talk? Like, what did we say to you at that point? To get you ready for this? Well, it was kind of, um, you know, rest.
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We got, you know, home.
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We gotta get somebody out there because we've got we had, uh what what are always, like, uh, Carl? Because the big defensive end from Oakland.
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And then we got Bubba Smith coming up and we gotta get somebody out there that can handle him.
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And they thought of moving me to tackle what they then they said.
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But, you know, I think, given given who the tackle's got and go up against.
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They wanted somebody with more experience.
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So they put her arm out there and they moved me over.
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And I was just I was just excited.
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I was excited to play.
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I didn't care for.
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Right guard, left guard. All I wanna do is play.
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And I played right tackle if they wanted me to, but, um, it was, um It was just kind of I I don't know.
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It just happened.
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I'm telling you, it just happened.
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Hey, we're making this change.
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Boom.
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You're going to right guard tell is gonna continue left garden and terms of moving out.
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So you're 23 years old at that point, What's going through your head when you know the throngs of the press around Joe, Willie and Joe, guarantees of victory in the Super Bowl.
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Whoa! What are you thinking at that point? Well, what I'm thinking is is what we've had told us.
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We started watching films.
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We re beat the Raiders on Sunday and on Monday.
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We already had game films on the Colts, and I don't know how we pull that off.
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But we had him and we started watching them and we're watching him and the moon Watch them.
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The more you know, we we matched up really well with them.
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They, you know, the Raiders and the Kansas City Chiefs all played that, Rick it bump and run.
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Just beat the crap by the receiver and and so you can't throw the quick pass and then our rush is going to get the quarterback and, well, that that put all all all the pressure Oh, on us for protect the quarterback.
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But way we're watching this is you know what? I think we beat these guys, and everybody else is.
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We keep washing, we keep watching it.
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And Pete Lammens he said, we do gotta stuff shows these films were gonna get overconfident, and that's when we you don't he said, Hey, guys, I don't want anybody saying anything.
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You do nothing but say the Colts are the greatest team ever.
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Just like you keep saying that, don't anybody say anything about how were you know what we're going to do.
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And so Joe on that Thursday walked into, walked into that room and some somebody back there said, I ain't Joe.
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We're gonna kick your button, You know you're not going to do about it.
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We're gonna win, I guarantee it.
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And I'm I'm sure as the words were going out of Joe's mouth, he was trying to reach out and grab it and put him back in. But he could.
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They were out there, and I When I heard it, I said, Oh, dear, Oh, dear.
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This week is gonna be really upset about this, But, um, in the end, in the end, it really worked in our favor because it took all the pressure off of us and put it on your shoulders.
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You know, General is now the target, and we're you know, so you know, we're a little less important.
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So where there's a will, there's a little less pressure.
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That's that's the way I felt anyway.
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And by the way, he just said.
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But we were all thinking So you know what? That, um, but that's how that's the way I recalled how let you aren't a played out No, it's interesting because, you know, you guys were 18 point underdogs.
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Joe makes that guarantee.
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And for many people that didn't get to see Joe Nemeth play and what he brought to the Jets and just look at his full career statistics.
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They make an argument that maybe he doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame.
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That his numbers might not have been Hall of Fame worthy, but for that moment in time and what he did, you know, that alone makes him a Hall of Famer.
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But what did he bring the team? You're in every offensive huddle with him.
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What were his leadership qualities like? And what was he like as a teammate? Well, first of all, let's talk about leadership now.
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Now, maybe I was I was young, and maybe I was impressionable.
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But every time I was in the huddle with Joe, when he called the play, I knew that place is gonna work.
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I knew that place.
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You knew it.
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And it's kind of like the whole team kind of had that feeling.
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If it didn't work, you just shook it off.
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He came back and he called the nexus.
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Okay, That one's gonna work, and, you know, he was He had kind of a he have a leadership quality that, you know, that is hardly whatever Every leader has her own, their own style.
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And Joe certainly Coast certainly had is.
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But he was He was an excellent, excellent team leader and getting, you know, getting people to play together.
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And there's no animosities.
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There's no, you know, none of this hit, you know, anything going on every everybody, we're just We're one team, and and Joe is Joe was our leader.
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It was our leader looking back at that game knowing that the team you were playing was the team You grew up as a fan off.
00:24:32
Um, although, you know, he was injured, but he was also, say, the quarterback of that team.
00:24:36
John, You nice of the teams that you grew up loving? Your coach was.
00:24:40
Now, you know he was the former coach of that team.
00:24:44
Did a lot of that stuff bring back memories to you when you saw them take the field for the Super Bowl? Oh, wow.
00:24:51
Oh, wow.
00:24:52
I tell you something, um, I wasn't sure how he's gonna react.
00:24:56
Of course, Johnny Nice was just if you're of a cold plan.
00:25:00
He was sure absolute hero.
00:25:03
And, uh, and though he wasn't anymore, well, I mean, he was, but he was still way.
00:25:11
We knew how good he waas and, you know, he was he he might plan.
00:25:15
He might not playing.
00:25:16
He didn't play, but anyway, but more so than that, I'm playing across from Billy Ray Smith.
00:25:23
Good golly, I used to watch Billy Ray Smith, you know, tearing up the Giants, you know, tearing up Green Bay and everything like that.
00:25:31
And all of a sudden she said, Hey, I could block this guy, But I got I gotta bounce with it first map, that ball game that all went away And it was strictly it was strictly What does she want to do? What is you want to do? What does Joe want to do? And, you know, my job is this and my job is this and get her done.
00:25:52
And, um and we did it bring a job that day.
00:25:56
51 years later.
00:25:57
What's a lasting memory of that day for you? You know, it was when that final gun went off and I jumped straight there and I didn't know what I use.
00:26:11
I e don't know what? I don't even know why I did it.
00:26:15
But I did.
00:26:16
I did.
00:26:17
I did have one thing I remember.
00:26:20
I said, You know, when this game is over, win or lose, I got to go shake Johnny and honest his hand, and I tried to get over there.
00:26:27
I tried to get over there and well, you know, they kind of were off the what the hell Kind of fast and I didn't get a chance to.
00:26:34
But you know, that was that double that then, then Good golly, the locker room.
00:26:40
And it was just It was unbelievable.
00:26:43
It was unbelievable.
00:26:45
We were there.
00:26:46
We were the best in the world on, uh, I never thought I'd ever be hit that thinking back to that watching that first game on that TV said in our House of coast field, Nebraska and, you know, from there in in oh, shoot, you know, like, eight or nine years way were we were there and we were the team.
00:27:10
We were the one, the one.
00:27:11
So it was quite a quite a drug.
00:27:15
It's amazing.
00:27:16
Your longevity with the Jets.
00:27:18
And, you know, we all know what happened to will.
00:27:20
His knees and the injuries.
00:27:22
As you know, will.
00:27:23
He started breaking down as a guy who had the block to make sure he didn't get hit.
00:27:29
How much did that? You know, change the way you played and the pressure put on you game in and game out and play in and play out? Actually, yeah.
00:27:38
Um oh, boy, that's a hard question to answer.
00:27:43
It didn't it Didn't change.
00:27:44
It didn't change.
00:27:46
Um, but the people around Joe's, um, skill position people around, especially at wide receivers, started changing kind of dramatically.
00:28:00
And the and, you know, the ones that came in were faster.
00:28:05
But, you know, hey, couldn't he just couldn't you had to be able to communicate, You know, half will have to play the simple movement at the place We call them at the line of scrimmage because Joe would read the defense and what he wanted and and we would, and he'd call the play and we had fun it.
00:28:25
But his receivers Maynard Sour and Lammens and Mathis and Boozer and everybody you don't.
00:28:31
They knew they were thinking the right on track with what Joe was thinking.
00:28:39
And when people tried to blitz us, when people try to bless us, we would we would kill him because some wherever the business coming from, somebody's gotta turn into that open spot and the guys would automatically do it.
00:28:54
And Joe without, wouldn't know they were gonna be there.
00:28:56
And way could take people apart if they tried Alexis so but that kind of becoming the kind of lost, that kind of continuity with this is outside, guys.
00:29:08
And, um, well, I don't know.
00:29:12
I don't know it just, um And then when you start going downhill, let's start.
00:29:16
It was It was it was pretty.
00:29:19
So market mentioned your longevity in the game.
00:29:21
How much had offensive line play changed over your career all the way into the eighties? Was there more of, Ah, running influence? Where did they get away from the run? Did you see a change to compare that also to today, where we see there's more offense now than ever, and it seems like it's harder for teams to actually have and develop good offensive lineman.
00:29:39
Yeah, baby.
00:29:41
Well, you know, obviously they they they they had to start changing the rules a little bit because of the of the quality of the player, and then not quality the size and speed.
00:29:57
Everybody said, What's the dearest routine when I played? And and now it's bigger, faster, stronger.
00:30:03
I mean, that's just that's just that's just what it is.
00:30:06
And so you have the You know, if if these guys had the block the way we had the block, you couldn't You couldn't block these defensive lineman.
00:30:16
They're too big.
00:30:17
They're too strong or too fast.
00:30:19
Um, and so you've got to give them a little, little more leeway on you know, where the hands are and things like that.
00:30:28
So idea.
00:30:30
Um, you know it.
00:30:34
The game just kind of more morphs along, and it keeps making changes.
00:30:39
But I would like to watch the offensive lineman.
00:30:42
I didn't like to watch these guys.
00:30:43
There's a lot of things very similar to what we did.
00:30:46
Um, you know, try to stay in the middle, trying to stay balanced, you know? You know, don't get thrown one way or the other.
00:30:52
But, man Oh, man.
00:30:54
Somebody's defensive alignment.
00:30:55
They these outside rushers, these outside rushers now only snakes you just You can't get there fast enough.
00:31:03
You can't get there fast enough even giving ground.
00:31:07
And there is a tough the block there.
00:31:09
Really tough.
00:31:11
Who was your toughest upon who is the toughest guy you had a line up across from over the three decades? A You know what it is The toughest defensive lineman I ever had to block.
00:31:24
I never played one game against, um, Had to go against, even practiced.
00:31:29
And when he was a rookie, had to go against him in the inner spot game.
00:31:33
Joklik.
00:31:34
Oh, gosh almighty.
00:31:36
I'm telling you.
00:31:37
I mean, I'm sure glad I don't have to block this guy every game because that, you know, he kind of had the size, strength, quickness.
00:31:48
He had everything.
00:31:49
He had it all.
00:31:50
But, you know, outside of that I mean, I had I had some great games.
00:31:54
Is Julie Adams up up in Marineland and Joe Herman down in Baltimore? You know, it would play ourselves twice, you know, home, home and and, you know, way.
00:32:06
They were good.
00:32:07
They were all good.
00:32:08
There's a lot of good defensive lineman.
00:32:10
I Alan Page, um you know, I'm not too shabby huh? Not too shabby, but Bob Lilly Bob Lilly was no.
00:32:20
He caught me when I was in my second year and he was anybody 12 year, and I'm telling you, I just I played the whole game against him.
00:32:28
I don't think I think I blocked him clean one time.
00:32:32
He just those big, long arms and everything.
00:32:35
Um, you know, well, that that was the toughest group were the Steelers Pittsburgh Steelers.
00:32:42
Jari Curtain, You anything on those guys? I mean, they were.
00:32:47
They were coordinated, They were good and they knew it.
00:32:50
Some really great names right there.
00:32:52
During their 15 seasons with the Jets, from 1967 to 1981 you played in 207 games, second in team history, toe on Lee kicker Pat Leahy.
00:33:02
You experience the hiring, that Super Bowl title as well as the low of going 11 consecutive seasons.
00:33:07
I think nine of them I had season tickets, actually, without a winning record.
00:33:12
You also had the unique distinction of being one of the few offensive Jet Lyman to score a touchdown.
00:33:18
And you did that against the Miami Dolphins.
00:33:20
Where does that moment stand in all the things you've accomplished in the three decades in the game.
00:33:26
You know, when I when I meet somebody and they finally I am, they go on Google and everything in the first thing he sees scored a touchdown against the Dolphin Room.
00:33:35
Plus, in such a date.
00:33:36
Wow, you scored a Testa? I did, but you could.
00:33:41
That touchdown was the weirdest thing that ever happened to me.
00:33:45
We were on elected.
00:33:46
Were wrong, like the six inch line way I'm right in the line.
00:33:51
I can't remember who it was, went up over the top of me and fumbled the ball.
00:33:57
Okay, Now I'm on the bottom and I look up and all of a sudden I hear I see this ball of human kind like it's coming down a tube to do like that.
00:34:08
That's why I just reached out and put my arms around me and I could see the yard marker it.
00:34:13
So I made sure that I was laying there and I had the ball over the yard marker.
00:34:18
And so they unpiloted go touchdown.
00:34:21
And they said, uh, I think I think it was Cliff Acclaim was a Clipper plane touched down their Jets Still missing is the It wasn't until the kickoff, The P A system said we made a mistake on had last understand Randy Rasmussen scored, covered, recovered a fumble in the end zone for the touchdown.
00:34:44
So it was.
00:34:45
I didn't get credit for it until the next play, but I got credit for Did you get that game ball? By any chance? I don't like.
00:34:53
I don't I don't I don't recall.
00:34:55
I did.
00:34:56
I don't recall.
00:34:57
It is not the same coordinated dancing that goes on today.
00:35:00
No, no, no, no, Randy, thank you so much for your time.
00:35:06
You know, every time when I see the calendar and long now long suffering Jet fan and I think back to being nine years old and the Jets winning the Super Bowl thinking it was gonna happen every single year, much like the Knicks.
00:35:19
And it's so and they want it one more time.
00:35:22
And I'm still waiting.
00:35:23
But, um great.
00:35:24
Year 1969 in New York Mets Jets and mix with the champion.
00:35:28
Well, my thought after the Super Bowl was Man, this is so easy.
00:35:32
We'll do this every year.
00:35:34
Well, uh, it didn't happen every year.
00:35:38
It doesn't happen every year.
00:35:39
So bad.
00:35:40
I got there for that one. Awesome.
00:35:42
Thank you so much for your time tonight.
00:35:43
We really appreciate Randy.
00:35:44
Okay, my friend.
00:35:45
You got a number 66 Randy Rasmussen, Three decades in New York Jet.
00:35:50
Um, you know, So he took a lot of play it, like, for me.
00:35:54
I mean, basically took me from a nine year old to a 21 year old.
00:35:57
You know, that was his span of my his career for me.
00:36:01
Watchband there with your streak.
00:36:03
You mentioned it was terrible.
00:36:04
Levin Joo who and the quarterbacks I picked up on that street only nine years.
00:36:11
And not only that, you take a look at.
00:36:12
I mean, once Richard Todd got their things turned around a little bit.
00:36:16
But there was a period when Joe his knees were shot in the parade of quarterbacks.
00:36:22
You know, their backups out.
00:36:23
What all was, you know, a journeyman type guy.
00:36:25
But there was Marty Thomas.
00:36:27
It was Bob Davis.
00:36:28
There were guys that you obviously have never heard of.
00:36:29
These there were no bodies, you know, and I don't mean that disrespectful, because anyone that makes the NFL's that somebody.
00:36:36
But when you go from Joe Nemeth to a Bob Davis or Joe Nemeth for Marty dominance, it is a big difference, because Joe was, it's almost like, um, for you two guys to put it in perspective.
00:36:50
Maybe after Jeter had, like, some of those unbelievable years, all of a sudden his knees just met you.
00:36:55
And unfortunately, there were two players of that generation that had happened to and hockey.
00:36:59
It was Bobby Orr.
00:37:00
When they're the greatest players, transcendent players and his knees went into the sports medicine wasn't the same.
00:37:06
No surgeries like that.
00:37:08
If those two guys were here now, they probably would have not missed anything.
00:37:12
And you missed a couple of weeks and been rehabbed and been as probably better than they were with any of the surgeries they're having now.
00:37:19
They're getting guys back on the field that it just wasn't happening.
00:37:21
It wasn't possible.
00:37:22
Tommy John is named after Tommy John because it was innovated existed.
00:37:26
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00:37:28
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Right now, we bring in our NHL beat reporter Russ Cone, hurt here each and every week over 5 40 AM Sports talking York, and basically there was breaking news as we went on the air.
00:40:27
And that's a Ray Shero is out as a general manager of the, um, New Jersey Devils press release was said that it at 6 p.
00:40:34
m.
00:40:35
They relieve them.
00:40:36
They basically made the announcement outside the locker room.
00:40:38
Um, and Conference General will serve as the interim GM and he'll receive support from Marty Bro Door.
00:40:44
So what do you make of this was there's something other than just performance because it it's kind of weird that you fire the coach and then a little after that, you fire the general manager.
00:40:57
Usually you do both at the same time.
00:40:59
Why do you think this move was made now? Well, especially after a win to like that.
00:41:06
But just how are things weirdly? I mean, we have to be used to that by now.
00:41:10
I've seen enough 76 or stuff here in Philly to know that.
00:41:14
But what I think happened is I'm pretty sure he was sure it was under the gun and had to come up with something good for the tailor hall trade.
00:41:24
I think they felt like probably the return wasn't that good.
00:41:27
So I think then his days were numbered.
00:41:29
And I think this is just like, you know, he just decided today was a day, so he did it.
00:41:35
But I think it all comes down to the hall trade because that's why Shiro was around this year was because he brought him in.
00:41:42
He had to trade him.
00:41:44
He had to put him in a good direction.
00:41:46
He didn't really do that.
00:41:48
And so now you've got this other combination where Listen, four door has no experience in this whatsoever.
00:41:56
And Fitzgerald is not gonna be able to call around and have instant success trying to make trades like maybe Shiro could.
00:42:06
So we're gonna say, Well, because right now they have guys, they have to move.
00:42:11
Same involvement has to go, and the green has to go.
00:42:15
You know, there was this weird court where Josh Harris says they're, you know, they're expecting to be instantly competitive.
00:42:20
And I'm like, Well, how is firing the GM gonna make him competitive? Yuri board another coach.
00:42:26
And they're just slightly more competitive.
00:42:28
Like they just don't have the players.
00:42:30
Yeah, strange timing for me as well on your right, who they replaced them with. I agree.
00:42:35
I don't know it just really for a team that really had such stability for so many years.
00:42:41
And even when they're the roster wasn't the most talented.
00:42:44
They had a system in place that made them compete.
00:42:46
And we were always moral.
00:42:47
That how the devil did not fall off the table.
00:42:50
Well, now they find out I have, and I believe it's gonna be a long time before the Devils get back any semblance of what they were for many, many years.
00:42:57
So it's gonna be an interesting watch over there in New Jersey.
00:43:00
Ah, big news is Sidney Crosby's return is imminent After his 27 games missed after his core muscle surgery.
00:43:07
What do you think we're going to see out of Sydney? And you know he's still, you know, we think of him as this grizzled veteran, but he's still fairly young.
00:43:17
Um, do you think we're going to see the Sidney Crosby, 31? But he has no lots of play again.
00:43:25
31.
00:43:26
But so many playoff games, Olympics right and lots of injury.
00:43:29
What do you think? It's And it's funny because we were coming out of a segment where we were just talking about Joe Nemeth and Ryan made a tremendous point, and I told them that two of the preeminent athletes of of that era were Bobby Orr and no name it, and their injuries were really debilitating.
00:43:46
And Ryan made a great point that had they been around now with the medical marvels, though, and the surgeries that around today their careers would have been prolonged and they wouldn't have been the way they were debilitated.
00:43:59
What can we expect from Sydney? What type of game do you think we'll see from him? Will he get back to that level? Yeah, I think he'll be I think he will be back at that level on right now.
00:44:09
His team is playing great.
00:44:10
And so you could make the argument that even though nobody thought it right now, I mean, we did talk about their goaltending tandem, preseason or early on the season on the show, and they have one of the best, if not the best.
00:44:23
So I mean, they're back of gold is going to the All Star Game.
00:44:26
So I think they're in really good shape, actually, and this could be a year.
00:44:30
We're now probably healthy.
00:44:32
They really could make a run.
00:44:33
And it's interesting because it's the opposite of what happened with the Eagles.
00:44:37
Like the Sean Jackson had this course surgery, this core injury decided to rehab.
00:44:41
It never got back and then all of a sudden said, Well, I got to get the surgery and then they were like, Well, he could be back there in the second round of the playoffs, But they're not the minute because we got this injury.
00:44:50
He went for the surgery immediately and that's how you do it and that's exactly what you do.
00:44:55
You take yourself by that action and you get back as quick as you can and that he's a pro with this and he's great at rehabbing and I don't expect any drop off.
00:45:04
You mentioned their goalie tandem.
00:45:06
Big news here in New York that the Igor Serkin era is possibly started.
00:45:12
We don't know if he's gonna be going back down, but he played two games.
00:45:15
He won them both.
00:45:16
Followed up with the lost by Hank, you know, be interesting to see if they use Igor against the Islanders tomorrow night.
00:45:22
What do you make about Igor of eager and his 1st 2 starts in the NHL? I thought you looked really good.
00:45:27
I mean, you know, Adam Fox probably owes him a dinner because you don't want to ever let me kidding coming on a breakaway.
00:45:33
That was awful.
00:45:34
But now he looked good.
00:45:36
And aside from some really bad announce work by Mike Milbury saying that he had looked comfortable on everything else and comes out wins that game.
00:45:44
I just you know, goaltending is past Mike by maybe a few other things have to, but he look good.
00:45:50
You look calm.
00:45:51
He's great with the stick.
00:45:52
You saw that first game he was never make that headman path.
00:45:54
I don't know if it was Obama job.
00:45:55
Whoever it was got instant shot on goal like there's a lot of things he can do, and all he has to do is figure out the Rangers defense and communication like that's it.
00:46:04
Everything else will be fine.
00:46:05
So Georg is really the odd man out now.
00:46:08
And they really do need to put him on the, you know, on the block and get him traded as soon as possible.
00:46:15
There is no point in holding three goalies now.
00:46:17
They can do it because I don't necessarily think they're really vying for a playoff spot.
00:46:22
But it's just gonna not be great for the goalie's because there's always gonna be this question like, Well, who's up next? And these questions will always get answers to questions asked of Quinn.
00:46:31
And the Rangers didn't exactly handle a great because Lundquist didn't know this was happening, which is Turk.
00:46:36
And at that time, and neither Georgette when he was asked for now.
00:46:40
Yes, you're give.
00:46:41
When he started again, he would probably say, I don't know.
00:46:43
It's funny you mentioned Milbury because I almost lost it in the pregame press conference of It wasn't an MSG game, it was an NBC game.
00:46:50
So Milbury was in the press conference and he asked Coach Quin He goes, How are you going to deal with a three goalie rotation? He goes, you know, in my experience in the NHL thing doesn't work.
00:47:01
And I'm shafting devious but in my mind and say I kept on saying, Wait a minute.
00:47:06
He had fish.
00:47:07
Oh, sod of Strom.
00:47:08
And he had four goalies one season, three of which were on the roster at the same time.
00:47:13
And I turned the, um, Carpi, who was next to me.
00:47:16
Yeah, and said This guy had three goalies.
00:47:18
What is he saying? And said, I better shut up or he's gonna take your shoe off.
00:47:21
But yeah, Master Square Garden and Milbury and Shoes is not a good thing.
00:47:25
So all right, Russ will speak to you next week.
00:47:26
Thanks so much.
00:47:27
I gotta get We're gonna play him out a little bit.
00:47:30
Just a few seconds.
00:47:32
We have to do this because you know, a huge hockey fan.
00:47:35
Great musician Neil Peart of Rush passed away, but he did the intro in Canada to the NHL tonight.
00:47:52
There you go, Theo.
00:47:56
Theo, you got to see the video.
00:47:58
It's the drum. It is unbelievable.
00:48:00
So we move from the ice.
00:48:01
We go over the hardwood.
00:48:02
We bring in our n b A Beat reporter Kim Tauber heard here each and every week over 5 40 AM Sports Talk New York time.
00:48:09
What I want this star out with is you listen.
00:48:12
Yeah, he's a great player.
00:48:13
Absolutely.
00:48:14
He's a 45th player in NBA history to score 20,000 career points, and I'm talking about James Harden.
00:48:19
I don't know if James Harden gets enough credit for how good a basketball player he is.
00:48:25
Well, you know, we talk about LeBron, we talk about Kyrie.
00:48:28
We talk about all these players and we talk about hard when he has, you know, the amazing streak.
00:48:35
But we don't talk about his greatness, and I really think he's one of the great players of the air.
00:48:40
Why don't you think Harden gets the credibility that he should? If you're really a question mark, Um, remember to say, um especially amongst his peers in an hour, that's no scoring dominating.
00:48:57
Um, he's doing a great scores.
00:48:59
We've ever seen on.
00:49:02
That's almost you can't dispute it.
00:49:06
Never bring up almost profound conclusion that if James Horton wants to get 50 that night and it was right, where your soul in the garden by himself, you get ***ually.
00:49:19
It's just a matter of what he wants to or not.
00:49:22
I think the difference is that James Corden is just so unconventional.
00:49:27
How he goes about Juliette.
00:49:28
This is the era of the freak athlete.
00:49:31
You have long one key players, especially floor guys.
00:49:34
Guys are able jonesing truck in the transition to the same idea.
00:49:40
Big athletic freak able to go you here. Kevin Durant.
00:49:43
The War was able to play the post.
00:49:46
Hit the three.
00:49:47
I'm Anthony Davis.
00:49:48
All these guys kind of pace is almost unfair of it.
00:49:53
It's really touching the same old.
00:49:55
You have long, athletic what was traditionally the day before or five.
00:49:59
Back in the day, I was able to do the hard stuff and put up numbers and bucket shoes.
00:50:03
Harden in that guy, James Harden, then James Horton doesn't rebound here is hardly traditional pastor or clear maker.
00:50:11
They're intelligent guys who has managed to find stroke using the rules of the n b a r t a n g eight of getting a foul whenever he wants of generally continuation of terms that back 3/4 of his, which is now.
00:50:27
You look around the NBA for your trial rules.
00:50:33
Turn that into almost every shot.
00:50:37
Maybe a Cory half court.
00:50:39
Eat your way, dominates our super dominate statistically, and I think that really overshadowed what he agree.
00:50:49
And you mentioned the Greek freak and you know, so many people are on that bandwagon.
00:50:53
But Harden has done it for so long.
00:50:55
I think they were.
00:50:56
Both were in the N.
00:50:57
V P conversation last year.
00:50:58
So Harding, that's the ABP conversation Just saying Ever wins it.
00:51:01
No, but it's definitely a difference.
00:51:04
I know if there's a disconnect in the fan base, there's something about hard on that.
00:51:07
He's not the poster boy for the NBA's Like when I think in the court of public opinion opinion, he loses on the defense way defense.
00:51:21
Probably bad.
00:51:24
You're on apathetic.
00:51:25
I mean terms of Well, this back in the booth.
00:51:28
No, that did not stop in.
00:51:30
You could have.
00:51:32
It wasn't very lucky.
00:51:33
Would be changed.
00:51:34
Harden Every single time you have that knocking some offense of players before, but never to this degree.
00:51:45
There's also a reality that he didn't fit well with other players.
00:51:49
Chris Paul, the ultimate distributor.
00:51:50
They take great together.
00:51:53
Where there was concerned.
00:51:54
Russell Westbrook.
00:51:55
Um, they were not gonna fit great together.
00:51:58
The concern with everybody you care about James Harden.
00:52:01
If you're not sharing them with James Harden, you just have them on the floor in case James Harden happens to kick it out.
00:52:06
But he's coming up on Lem on one.
00:52:08
He's more of a traditional ST ballplayer, all alone in a three on three type player.
00:52:13
You know, five on five way can score at will that defenses don't Dad is laughable.
00:52:20
Seriously, Gonna focus stock when you're talking about Kobe Bryant and his first to the Michael Jordan of the guys who competed Griffin time shooting guards and scores agreed.
00:52:31
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00:52:32
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00:58:21
During that time, he played for the Seattle Seahawks, Atlanta Falcons, Pittsburgh Steelers, Philadelphia Eagles.
00:58:26
He finishes 18 NFL seasons, making 366 off 477 field goals, or 76% of them, and 638 of 644 extra points.
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If you are meth challenge, that's 99% of his extra points give him a total of 1736 points.
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00:58:49
Most extra points made 15th most field goals made in 1993.
00:58:54
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00:58:55
He led the league in field goal percentage, 96.
00:58:57
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00:58:59
Have 27 field goal attempts.
00:59:01
He's a two time Pro Bowler, two time All Pro, two time P F W Golden Toll Award winner.
00:59:06
And as a member of the stem of the Seattle Seahawks 35th anniversary team, it is a pleasure to welcome the man they called Mr Automatic in Seattle.
00:59:14
The one and only Number nine.
00:59:16
Norm Johnson to 5 40 AM Sports Talk New York.
00:59:18
Welcome, Norm.
00:59:21
Mark.
00:59:22
Well, thank you.
00:59:23
You know, I've never had an intro like that.
00:59:25
My goodness, I didn't even know.
00:59:26
Although I actually we love.
00:59:30
So you know, your career is really quite interesting.
00:59:34
In high school, you were a stand out as a sop****re playing both sides of the ball.
00:59:38
You're a tight end in defense of end on the Pacific High School varsity team in Garden Grove, California You suffered a dislocated shoulder required medical attention.
00:59:47
The doctor who treated you would have a profound effect on what happened next, as he told you about ah, former pro kicker who played in the NFL from 1945 3 1959 So can you fill our audience in who that kicker was and what he eventually meant to your career? Well, sure, it was funny.
01:00:06
Yeah, I went there for my shoulder and he was talking to me and I said, Yeah, play football is like, What position? You know, I travel awesome positions of any and I said, Kicker also and he says, Oh, your kicker.
01:00:17
You know Ben Agajanian, You ever go down to his camps and I'm like, uh, I have no idea who that is And no, I have not.
01:00:27
And so my dad was with me at the time, and we were talking to Dr together, and he knew who Ben Waas.
01:00:32
And neither one of us knew that he had these camps at Long Beach State, which is not very far at all from where I was and I grew up in West Garden Grove, which is right next to Ah, um, Long Beach.
01:00:45
And my dad actually grew up in Long Beach.
01:00:47
Anyway, we, uh he tells me about these Wednesday camp say so I showed up and, uh, met Ben and plant took me under my wing and under his wing.
01:00:56
Excuse me.
01:00:57
And, uh, he was, uh, the kicking coach.
01:01:00
I think he was the only ticking Coast special teams coach butt kicking coach ever in the NFL under Tom Landry with the Dallas Cowboys.
01:01:09
But he lived out in my area, and one thing led to another.
01:01:13
Next, you know, we became very close.
01:01:16
I was running, helping run his camps and doing demonstrations.
01:01:21
And he was, ah, very big influence.
01:01:24
And I think even influence be getting too.
01:01:25
You see a way down there? Well, it's interesting because you sell a, which was where your father actually went.
01:01:31
Offers you a scholarship to be their place kicker.
01:01:34
Other schools were offering other incentives, like the opportunity to play more than one position.
01:01:38
What about playing for future College Hall of Fame coach Terry Donahue and the U.
01:01:43
C.
01:01:44
L.
01:01:45
A. Bruins appealed to you more than some of the other offers.
01:01:47
Well, you you know a big reason was my dad had gone.
01:01:51
He had been both at U. C L.
01:01:53
A and a University of Santa Barbara.
01:01:55
That's like my dad is in the Groucho, the Santa Barbara Hall of Fame for football, and they don't even have a football program anymore.
01:02:01
But, um, that was one of them and also that it was close to home.
01:02:06
So those two factors and, you know, I didn't have very many offers.
01:02:12
Um, I you know I have.
01:02:14
But once you say I got into the, uh threw her hat in the ring, I was all for it.
01:02:20
And you have a nice career.
01:02:21
U C l A.
01:02:22
But you go undrafted in the 82 NFL draft.
01:02:25
Part of that reason was at Michigan State's Morten Andersen and Syracuse is Gary Anderson to college.
01:02:30
Seniors were in that same draft class.
01:02:32
You signed a free agent contract with the Seahawks.
01:02:34
Ah, and it's interesting because I looked at the landscape of the NFL at that point and where you signed, they had a Pro Bowler and effort.
01:02:43
Herrera. He was already there in Seattle.
01:02:45
What appealed to you about Seattle? Well, got funny this is kind of a long story, but, um, effort was holding out, and I guess he'd actually even said some derogatory things about the ownership, which was, you know, the Nordstrom and Nordstrom's Air top knot.
01:03:07
And so my agent at the time, Bruce, someone down there told me that the Seahawks are not really happy with effort during his hold out.
01:03:17
So we looked at it as an opportunity.
01:03:20
Well, I ended up.
01:03:21
I'll give you the short version of this Cliff notes.
01:03:25
So I signed with Seattle thinking that there's you always look for an opportunity hard enough to get your foot in the door somewhere.
01:03:32
But if you have potentially an opportunity, that's where you wanna jump at.
01:03:37
Um, I signed with Seattle Bennett.
01:03:41
Ben Agajanian called me up and says, Why did you sign with Seattle? And I said, Well, because it looks like there might be an opportunity says, I know, effort.
01:03:52
He's a good picker, he says.
01:03:53
And I just took the special teams Well, this was back in 82.
01:03:59
So when all backup, when Ben was with the Cowboys Tom Landry, the special teams coach Mike Ditka, Mike Ditka goes and becomes the head coach of the Chicago Bears.
01:04:13
So ****o worked with Ben.
01:04:14
Agajanian is kicking coach, and he's bringing him up to Chicago and he said, I'll go if you guys get Norm Johnson.
01:04:23
Well, I said the banister.
01:04:25
Why didn't you tell me this? This is news.
01:04:29
I found out much later, and I was really actually deflated because I would have been a shoo in because Ben would have been, um, you know, my coach And he would have been I would have made that team for sure.
01:04:44
And I'm like, Oh, no.
01:04:45
Now I gotta go battle it out.
01:04:46
That effect.
01:04:47
We had seven pickers in Seattle, but now you're looking back on it.
01:04:51
It was a very good move for me, and and, um, things work that well, but the prime I just like Ben.
01:04:57
How could you not have told me this information? Because I was also talking to be talking to 17 as a puppet on a free agent in Chicago.
01:05:06
Was one of them.
01:05:08
Had I known that Ben was going up there to follow Dica.
01:05:11
Um, I would have definitely gone up there, and I might have been on that 85 Super Bowl team.
01:05:18
Instead, it was Caron Butler.
01:05:21
Interesting.
01:05:22
You would have been in the video, but you know, that team was built.
01:05:25
McMahon was a good quarterback, but they were built on defense.
01:05:28
I don't know if you would have had the same amount of points as you put up, you know those years in Seattle.
01:05:33
But that is interesting.
01:05:34
That is very, you know, a day after you sign.
01:05:37
That's crazy.
01:05:38
But it didn't take long for you to into yourself to the Seahawk nation.
01:05:42
November 27th 1983.
01:05:44
Seahawks versus Kansas City You hit your 3rd 42 yarder of the game.
01:05:48
Um, you guys win that game 51 48 in For what years was the third highest scoring game in NFL history early in your career.
01:05:57
It's a big game for the Seahawks.
01:05:58
They end up making the playoffs and making it all the way to the NFC championship game.
01:06:03
Do you remember that game at all? And because it was such a huge game in Seattle Seahawks history, I actually do, and I'll give you the short version of this one, too, is it? Didn't seem like either team.
01:06:17
Defense showed up and we and we had Kurt Warner.
01:06:20
He was a rookie sensation, lot of Penn State.
01:06:23
He was unbelievable.
01:06:24
And, you know, we were running on Kansas City.
01:06:27
Put one right or left.
01:06:29
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
01:06:31
And we get down to the end and we you know, the game's 48 48 at the end of regulation.
01:06:38
So the whole question was, whoever gets the coin flips gonna win.
01:06:42
Either defense could stop the other team, will we? Luckily, won the coin flip.
01:06:46
We get a great kick off return.
01:06:50
I'm thinking, Oh my goodness and turn up.
01:06:52
It's Kurt Warner, right? Kurt Warner left foot one right? Kurt Warner left.
01:06:56
Here's what.
01:06:57
Honest to God going through my head.
01:06:59
You know, my rookie Stevens was short with the strike, so this is really my first full season and I'm looking at the scoreboard.
01:07:05
I'm actually back in his back, drinking Gatorade.
01:07:07
We've already crossed the 50 yard line.
01:07:09
I'm thinking, well, in overtime by first overtime game.
01:07:14
When you scored, you even kick the extra point.
01:07:17
This is what's going through my head.
01:07:18
I'm figure we're gonna drive right down and it's third down and I hear something sounds like a field goal team, and I wasn't standing on the sidelines right at the moment.
01:07:31
I stand a little bit ****her back and I kind of get on my tippy toes.
01:07:35
I see this big group run in.
01:07:37
I went up to the sidelines and Chuck Knox was our coach.
01:07:40
You call her physical team.
01:07:42
He looks at me with these big Jenna and eyes in there.
01:07:46
I run in their late.
01:07:47
They've already broken the huddle.
01:07:49
Jim Zorn's court.
01:07:50
Uh, he was a quarterback, but he was also the my holder.
01:07:54
They break the huddle, we line up, we, you snap the ball, they kick it.
01:07:59
Game's over, we win.
01:08:01
And we kicked on third down.
01:08:02
And it just shocked the heck out of because I thought we were gonna just walk in there.
01:08:07
And Chuck Knox Hey, came from Buffalo at this time.
01:08:11
He came in after the game, he was making comments to the media and he says, Yeah, I've been through this before where we would drive down and I had a fumble on these rises.
01:08:23
We were running in the past and possibly I could do that again.
01:08:26
We had a good kicker, and as soon as we got close enough on third down, we're gonna kick to win the game.
01:08:33
And so, like, Wow, I wish I would have known that he felt that way a little more prepared.
01:08:39
But looking back, it worked out.
01:08:41
We're talking to Mr Automatic Norm Johnson.
01:08:43
You went to the Atlanta Falcons in 1991 before the Pittsburgh That was before the Pittsburgh Steelers signed you four years later.
01:08:50
Your first year there, you make it to the Super Bowl and always look at the place kicker and kind of equate him to the relief pitcher.
01:08:56
In baseball, you do your job and people don't notice.
01:09:00
You don't do your job, you blow a save, and you're the reason why the team lost.
01:09:04
You mentioned the name Scott Norwood to anyone, and immediately they just go wide right.
01:09:09
I have to imagine that you know, it's one of the most pressure filled positions in professional sports, and then when you magnify it, you know, on the stage of a Super Bowl, how do you steady your nerves, knowing that at any given moment the game could come down to you for a championship.
01:09:27
How do you prepare yourself mentally for that challenge? You know, that's really challenging.
01:09:32
And the way you put that is, uh, the first.
01:09:38
I'll tell you kind of how that stuff is.
01:09:41
You know, Scott Norwood had a great career up there in Buffalo.
01:09:44
Buffalo is a horrible place to kick.
01:09:46
And he was where with Jim Kelly and Marv Levy and all those guys.
01:09:50
And they had some tremendous games.
01:09:53
But both the time.
01:09:54
You're not, really, Why, If you're living somewhere else in the country, you're not watching Buffalo a lot even even know they're really popular.
01:10:03
Bottom people probably were.
01:10:04
But, like with Seattle, Oh, um, I should say, When I was with Seattle, not everybody was watching us.
01:10:11
I went to Pittsburgh and LA People watched the Pittsburgh Steelers.
01:10:14
But when you get to that stage of the Super Bowl and you know there's only one game is only two teams and now every football fan in the world and even outside of this world now, viewing a giant stage.
01:10:29
Ah, big game.
01:10:31
You realize Holy cow.
01:10:32
There's so many people out there that don't know either Scott Norwood is or who Norm Johnson is that they're all gonna be watching me, and they're gonna base their opinion of my me and my career on one game.
01:10:47
That's a pretty big weight to carry around.
01:10:50
And when I played in the Super Bowl and I was my 14 year, I think in the league and my first appearance in the in the Super Bowl, you have about two weeks before that game.
01:11:02
With that first week, the thought of that was weighing really heavy.
01:11:06
I'm thinking there could be people in Mexico and all over the world and all over the country who don't really know who Norm Johnson is, what kind of career he had for 14 years.
01:11:16
They're going to base their opinion on how good a kicker I am and who I am on one game, and that was a really big weight to carry around.
01:11:25
But the following week and I got less and less and by game time and the good ones can kind of do this.
01:11:33
You get once you get to the game, strap that helmet on it, blow the whistle you're treating every game is the same.
01:11:42
You can't say, Oh, this is a big game So I gotta play big or I don't want to be.
01:11:49
I don't want to choke.
01:11:50
You can't think of it any differently.
01:11:52
And what is kind of funny is a lot of the big players, and we have a big one appear Russell Wilson.
01:11:58
This is a really shine and and, uh, coach, um, be Carol seemed to really shine in the big games, but I bet they really don't treat him any differently.
01:12:09
The approach it as the same game as it wa sare said the situation is the famous beginning of the year that middle of the year, the end of the year, the cross.
01:12:22
And when you couldn't do that, when you've been treating every game as just another game or you come to play every Sunday, I mean you, you get your heart racing and you're playing every Sunday as if it's championship.
01:12:36
You have the best chance of playing your best in a big stage.
01:12:41
I just I just wrapped around my head when that place kicker goes out there, you know, game on the line, how much they have to block stuff out.
01:12:50
One of the things that always, you know, I find comical.
01:12:54
Is that happened? I guess probably over the last 20 years.
01:12:57
I don't think back in the seventies, I don't ever remember it happening when I had season tickets to the Jets and and maybe the Jets, never in the seventies got to a point where they had a chance to win a game at the end.
01:13:07
But icing the kicker.
01:13:09
Does that have an effect on you at all? When the opposing coach calls a timeout when you're lying and when you're just about to kick and he calls a time out? Well, here's what's really important to a kicker.
01:13:21
Field conditions.
01:13:22
Make sure that you don't.
01:13:23
Your left foot doesn't slip your plant leg.
01:13:26
Make sure that you have a good distance, the proper distance from the centre to your holder, and you gotta take into a lot of things.
01:13:33
Um, very quickly.
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Well, if what I would do is, I would turn that against the opposing team.
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If they gave me a time out, I'd be able to say go.
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Thank goodness.
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I'm gonna take a deep breath.
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Now I'm going to make sure I'm the exact right distance.
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Seven faith recorders yards.
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I'm gonna make sure that plant my plant foot has really good footing.
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I'm gonna move it around.
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I'm gonna tell my my holder how I want the lean of the ball, depending on the wind.
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And I'm gonna happen to use that to my advantage.
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If I was kicking in doors and I was lucky enough to kick a few years indoors, I've run back off the field and I and wait for the time out to be over and run back on the field as if it never happened.
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I think the last thing a kicker should do stand out there in the middle of a field and start thinking about this crowd.
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Start thinking about who's watching, how many people are watching, how big time of the game this is.
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And and home court this kick is, and I think if you do that, you play into their hands.
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But I I never allowed that.
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I always either thank them.
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Thank goodness I have a timeout.
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Take extra time.
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Time's running out there breaking the huddle, countback getting lined up properly and do never all the pre trick routine.
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So we have a funny story of maybe effort, place in the wrong places.
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So I started reading this story that someone is suing the Yankees and the Reds for failure to give him a full chance.
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So he sued the Yankees in 2018 for $34.
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4 million in an effort that was thwarted by trying to preserve Derek years career.
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So he's saying that Derek Jeter got in the way of his career and then also his complaint with the Reds.
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To sum it up quickly was that there's some kind of age is, um, going into who is getting a tryout being that he was 30.
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The tryouts were between 16 and 22.
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That's the suit there.
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What's interesting is that I found out in the article that he's representing himself.
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So as he was going through his mind early career, he also put himself through law school and is representing himself in the case, which is interesting.
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But is that effort kind of lost where he could have been, maybe practicing more? I don't know tryingto make the career happen, but or a TTE some point.
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Did he realize the best way to get on the field is to sue someone so two things that instantly go through my mind while you're coming? This story first? I'm envisioning this guy is my cousin Vinny, and you're going before the judge trying to try this case, and the second thing I'm going through now is now, you know why a J It's not here.
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I think A J is suing F A n and Mike Francesa for not allowing him to take over the princesses and ageism because, you know, we we all know how old A J is.
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Uh, you know, we have to talk about today's game because that, to me, was the game of the weekend.
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First of all, you know, if you're a longtime listener of this show, how much I love Pat Mahomes? Just a because of his connection to the Mets and a sort of made today we're just the wound while dropping the one that is going to the left, and he drops it into Kelsey as he's going across the line, grab it on the line and keeping his foot in the air, straddling the line to make sure he didn't cross over the line of scrimmage. Unbelievable.
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And it's it's unbelievable because it works.
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But it was one of those plays were going Oh, no, don't don't know.
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And it worked out.
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Certainly that they were down 24.
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Nothing.
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And you could tell it didn't faze him in the least.
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First of all, the crowd in Kansas City.
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Kudos to them because that was just a frenzy to outscore your opponent 51 to 7 when you were losing 24.
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Nothing is unbelievable.
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I mentioned this before we started this show.
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I just wish there was more punching back like a back and forth.
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It just was all all Texans And then all of them.
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It was an avalanche.
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It was.
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And you know what? You have to have some sort of answer defensively, and they didn't and and that was a little disconcerting because they were just then they made such an adjustment.
01:22:36
I think the chief's made such a great adjustment.
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They went down 24 but I have certain for you they were gonna have to stop giving out points, and they did so that's not being talked about.
01:22:46
Give the Chiefs credit for making the turn around.
01:22:47
What happened to the Texans, right? There was no answer, No answer whatsoever.
01:22:52
Listen, you got to give Kansas City, you know, full credit.
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He's a great coach.
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We've seen it before with the other teams that he's coached, you know, just they had a game plan.
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They never panicked.
01:23:04
It was unbelievable.
01:23:05
Right now the Green Bay Packers great story, another.
01:23:08
Listen, I love my homes, but I also love news and Roger's right.
01:23:13
So the Packers another great story.
01:23:15
Uh, San Francisco 40 Niners.
01:23:18
You know, 49 years of Green Bay is gonna be great.
01:23:20
I think that's what we're going to see, and that's gonna be a great game and stuff.
01:23:23
But, you know, Titans vs Chiefs Where you had on that? Here's a difference.
01:23:29
The Titans are the only team in this mix that's still left that has a legitimate run game.
01:23:34
There's no more run game in the NFL, but the Titans have one of those seasons by running the ball. Ryan Tannehill.
01:23:40
You know, if you say Mahomes Rogers, you know, and then you say Tannehill's Yeah, you know that's the That's like the bar, a line from Sesame Street.
01:23:49
One of these things is not like the other.
01:23:50
So really quickly.
01:23:51
We'll have a minute and 1/2 in that game way, so it's amazing that they've done this.
01:23:55
They they're doing it with a quarterback throwing under 100 yards, but he threw for two touchdowns, but ah, 180 yards for three straight games for Derrick Henry.
01:24:03
Like you said, there's no running game in the NFL anymore, but they're doing it on a game to game basis.
01:24:08
I guess we don't know what's gonna happen because they're the hot team, which is interesting.
01:24:12
That's the fun part.
01:24:13
Is there the team that's hot? You know, not the best team, but the team playing the best Kansas City Green Bay will be.
01:24:19
You know that will be a phenomenal Super Bowl, if that's what we're looking at that center and to get Roger's it.
01:24:26
Holmes, I don't know these guys.
01:24:29
The changing of the guard almost.
01:24:31
Yeah, absolutely.
01:24:32
All right.
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We appreciate everyone tuning in.
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Everyone that watches on the SportsCastr app will be back next week.
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like a J.
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Martinez, who can't even play outfield anyway.
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Or Nick Cassidy, Janos says, was more of what I meant.
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Since he's a free agent, you're not gonna get somebody like that.
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So the question is, Are you gonna be able to get somebody who can play center field who's still a free agent right now Who's enough of an upgrade from Gardner and taking everything to account? Also what he what he provides for them in the room? Because that is a consideration for them.
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Is there somebody out there that can do that? I'm not sure that there is.
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So for me, it's more of the safe play to bring back Gardner unless you want it.
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Unless you want to swing some blockbuster trade centerfielder, unless you want to get in the Starling Marte a sweepstakes, and I don't think the Yankees are willing to do that, so I don't I don't think there was a whole heck of a lot they could have done to upgrade from Gardner.
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This is a little bit of they have a familiarity with him.
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He knows their system.
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He's you know, Boone likes him.
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So I think is a good sign, but I'm just wondering, that's a lot of money.
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And I think you know, this is a type of player from me that you're going to see that significant drop off quickly.
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All of a sudden, those skills are going on a road.
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He's not the youngest failures anymore.
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We thought that might happen right here.
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So how had it happened one more year? Yeah, they're they're betting on it.
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I mean, also, they have Mike Talk man who might be playing more center field next year.
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Who's playing left field at times last year.
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They also have Ah, Fraser.
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Who knows what they're gonna end up doing with him.
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They're all about having flexibility in the outfield.
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So I think Gardner just fit in there.
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Did you get paid a lot? Yeah, I think the extra year was was definitely the surprising part of that, too.
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And the options hits coming back in June also.
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And if you're betting that if you're saying that Gardner might fall off fast if he feels all fast by June, you've got another option in Hicks.
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Also, to come back and take over when and if that drop off happens, agreed uh, former Met.
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Looks like he's found a landing place.
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What do you think he'll do with the Texas Rangers? And that's Todd Frazier, all, man.
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Ah, it really all depends on what their role is for him.
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If he's gonna be a backup, if he's gonna be a superstar, but they're gonna if they're gonna start him and also anybody that goes to the Texas Rangers now for the new ballpark, whether it be pitching, you gotta know.
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And we won't know yet how that new ballpark is gonna play.
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Is it going to be a hitter's ballpark like the old place was or because it's indoors? Is it going to be a picture's haven? So, uh, I don't know what his role is going to be, but I expect him to do what he has always done here with the Mets.
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They'll provide a little bit of pop here, and they're one in the one.
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Every once in a while, I play good defense and you do whatever they need to do.
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And I'm sure that Frasier will show up in a cowboy hat because you forget Jersey now he's a Texan, through and through, and I wouldn't be surprised to see that Well, you know, he has all that issues.
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He'd be happy to get out of New Jersey with all those turkeys that have been on his property over there.
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That's what I want.
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That's what I was wondering.
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Are there wild turkeys in Arlington or just the wild turkey that comes in a bottle? You know, with Todd coming off the market? Obviously, that just ups the ante for Josh Donaldson and, you know, Springs twins and the Nats.
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Are the guys still in on that? Where do you think he ends up, And what do you think the size of his contract is gonna be? I think it's going to be pretty, pretty large.
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I think, uh, you know, I think he's gonna go back to the Braves ultimately.
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But I also think it ties into what teams are swirling around in terms of the Nolan Baron Otto sweepstakes, are they? They're gonna be a team that's going to be able to afford him in cash and prospects that will affect Josh Donaldson landing spot.
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I don't think the Braves will.
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We'll lock in on him, but I think other teams might I think you could see the Nationals or maybe even the twins get desperate and look into are not a which would, which would make a brave Donaldson, really, in all that, all that much more likely to happen.
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I think when it comes down to it will come down to the Braves.
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I don't know if are not gonna get traded.
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I think the price is gonna be really high for for a player who might opt out in two years.
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So I think it's gonna be I think it's gonna be interesting to see if he gets traded.
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I think I think our notto and Donaldson will what will weave their way into each other.
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And I think what happens with one will will affect what happens with the other.
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And once those two Corman off the table, does that help the Mets in the Valley of the ability to maybe move Lowry to somebody? Probably.
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Although I think teams will see Lowry is less of a starter and more is a super cell, especially coming off that injury.
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Uh uh.
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Again, a team would have to be a team that misses out on both of those guys will have to be desperate enough to say, Okay, Larry is a is the next best option out there, and we'll certainly take a chance on him at that price, especially since they're willing to spend 25.
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30 million on either Donaldson are on auto.
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So for half that could happen.
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I still think the chances are pretty low, but that might improve its the chances of unloading him a little bit.
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So not only the Astros scandal, but now reported again this week.
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The Red Sox scandal.
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With the replay room being so close, do you think we're gonna get to a point where they remove that room completely from near the clubhouse or the stadium completely, and they let just Chelsea deal with it? They're gonna have to do.
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They're gonna have to do something with that.
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I'm surprised that Chelsea doesn't handle it all to begin with.
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I do think they're gonna have to make some changes.
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I think when when you look at Thea, the new allegations about the Red Sox stealing signs using video during their world championship season, I think this puts more of a focus on Alex Cora and perhaps even less of a focus on the Astros.
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If you can believe that now, there are reports that the Astros were going to get hammered hard, which I, which I truly believe.
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But now that you that you follow the patterns here, that is great actually went from the Astros in 2017 through the Red Sox in 2018 whose common threat? It's Alex Core.
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And I think that's what they're taking their time with now.
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I think that's why we haven't found we haven't heard of, ah, concrete suspension for the Astros yet.
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I think with these new allegations, they're looking a little harder at Cora, and I think that they're gonna take the next few weeks to investigate what exactly his role waas in both of these situations and then decide what punishments are gonna be handed out.
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You know, it's interesting because you take a look over the course of decades, every sport as its code.
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So cheating is against the code, and so many players have been traded from the Astros organization of the Red Sox organization.
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You would think the second they get traded, it would become public knowledge.
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Why do you think this was kept so under the rug when so many players have gone on to different organizations from those two teens.
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I think, well, I think it's what you said it was the code and I think it's it's also wait, listen.
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Stealing signs has been around for years.
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It's been around since the forties fifties, however far back you want to imagine stealing signs.
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It has been a part of a lexicon, a baseball.
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But now you're talking the use of video, the use of technology, which makes it that much easier.
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I think players stay silent because they're not really sure what a rather video usage of sign stealing falls into that code or not.
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And nobody wants to.
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Nobody wants to be seen as the tattletale as it were, except Mike Fires, obviously.
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But I think I do think that people really don't know.
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There's a gray area about hey with us under the whole sign, stealing, being around for decades, that part of it, and what bells under the new, less more frowned upon way of stealing signs, which is the video.
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I think that I think there's a lot of confusion there and nobody wants step on anybody's toes and sc**** away, but the line where the code begins as it were.
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All right, Johnny.
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Thanks a lot.
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John Carpenter heard here each and every week over 5 40 AM Sports Talk New York We're gonna take a quick break on the other side.
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Hard to believe.
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A beautiful Sunday here in New York 51 years ago was a much more exciting Sunday here in New York as Ah, it was the day the New York Jets had won the Super Bowl.
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And joining us now is a man who played offensive guard for 15 seasons for the New York Jets, beginning with the 1967 American Football Week season.
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Super Bowl champion number 66 Randy Rasmussen to Sports Talk New York Hey there, Randy.
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I'm doing fried.
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Mark. How you doing? Doing good.
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So you know it's 51 years to the day of that Super Bowl win.
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Come on, please don't remind it is a long time.
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But before we talk about that game, let's talk about how you became a jet.
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So the legend goes that you got hooked on football when you were, You know, it was three days after Christmas.
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Your parents farm got there first TV.
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You and your brother settled in to watch.
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Johnny Unite is an Allen, a meaty beat.
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The Giants in overtime for the championship.
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What was it about that game in that moment? Made you want to be a professional football player? Well, I guess that was way.
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We're leaving.
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And now we were Me and my two brothers are both Baltimore Colts fans.
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E I don't know why, but, uh, we used to go now Before we got our TV, we used to go down to the little town of Elba and the postmaster.
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We went to his house because he had a TV, and that's every Sunday at men go to church.
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Then they go down, watch football game down there, like all we got to watch it on our own house on that on that overtime game.
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And well, that was It was exciting, incredibly exciting game we were.
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We were very into it.
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So you mentioned about Alba and how small it is.
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Your high school was so small because of that, the football team didn't have that many players.
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And because of that, you actually played guard, quarterback and fullback.
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In high school, you went on to the University of Nebraska at CUNY.
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What went into the decision to play at your knee? Well, that was that was pretty easy.
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Um um, that was kind of first of all, being a small school playing eight men football.
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We didn't have films or anything like that.
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All the colleges that gave out scholarships, the biggest scholarships you had to have films that then everything like that.
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So there is no place to go but Connie.
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And at that time card handed, well, you know what? Not at that time this year.
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They did actually won the Mineral Mineral Springs Bowl rotten Missouri.
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And, you know, we were There were a football powerhouse in the N A I a and the coach out there.
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I came to see me, and he wanted me.
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He wanted me real badly.
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So we went there.
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My parents could afford it.
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And, uh, so an animus. Fortunate.
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It was fortunate because, you know, he was a very, very good football coach.
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And so I had I had good coaching in college.
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You play there all four years.
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The team, while you were there only was five games over those four years.
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Your freshman year, they make it to the championship semis.
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You're the team captain in your junior and senior year.
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One year you actually got to play with your two brothers.
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What was your college experience like? And what did coach out Zach mean to you? and your development at that point in your career? Well, l Hickman was was is a legend is a legend, And, uh, I can't I can't express enough.
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How good of a a coach in.
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Ah, Father figure and and everything else that the guy waas so that, you know, he was very important.
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And, you know, I think the kids came the car anywhere.
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They a lot of more than the farm kids like me.
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And so we had a bunch farm kids out there that you know, really like play football way Did well be.
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We did Well, So what do you remember about draft day? And how did you find out that the Jets had picked you, believe it or not? Um uh, another.
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This is 1967.
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So please understand how the key chain happened.
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I have was in class and I came back, and I used to work for a farm of a farmer.
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You know that? They're in the summer Times.
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I'd be a labour on the farm.
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He heard me on his tractor radio.
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He own a tractor radio on the local station there that I had been drafted.
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He immediately came in and called And, um, uh, Kiki kept calling until I finally got back to my apartment, and I still haven't heard anything ready.
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You just got drafted by the New York Schatz and Oh, my God, Are you okay? And and so that really that's that's the first I heard of it.
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And then well, then everything started happening then everybody was calling then.
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But it was my Oh, boss, no boss.
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So to say you were confident that you're going to make the team would be a stretch.
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In fact, you actually signed a contract to be a teacher in the oh, my heart's school district after you had been drafted by the Jets.
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Is that right? And why? Well, that's it.
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You know, um, looses there's a well, first of all.
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Yeah, I didn't know.
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I'm 12th round draft choice.
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I don't I don't know from you, your odds are not are not terribly positive.
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Um, and you know that Oh, my and the Omaha public school system was a really that's one of us.
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One of the main teaching jobs on a math major with, you know, a straight A's.
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And they come out and they And they said, Hey, we want you to teach math and all the time and they pay in You would pay you quite a bit more than the schools around, so I said, Well, yeah, I think I want to do that.
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Just Justin.
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I didn't tell him, just in case I didn't make it with the Jets.
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But, um, it's so so, yeah, I had numbers went back.
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A plan that was back in plan.
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We're talking with 19 600 Super Bowl champ Randy Rasmussen here on 5 40 AM Sports talk.
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New York in***bent Sam DeLuca would injuries me in an exhibition game, and you take over the starting position and play there that season.
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The following season was a tough one.
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At first, you actually thought of leaving camp.
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But George, our senior, then the head of the Jets player personnel, talked you out of it.
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What do you recall about that conversation and what did he say to you that convinced you to persevere and go through what you're going through? Well, you know what happened was we talk Bob Kala meanie who retired from Houston, and he was an all Pro guard down there Well, we've talked him out of retirement to come in and play for us, So you don't know.
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You know, I'm thinking, Wow, this is This is not this is not good.
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And, you know, we kind of we kind of split the duties a little bit and split.
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And then, of course, you know what happens at the end of the year.
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Sam Malone.
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Sam.
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What kind of fella fell apart and we had to make the switch with her moving out, and I moved to right guard. Cost.
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Ali tally played.
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He was the left guard.
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And so you couldn't You couldn't change him.
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Me? I was I was.
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I moved both positions right and left, and so I moved to right guard.
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But George was George was e m.
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He's the guy that came out.
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The carny scientist missing in my contract, signed and everything else.
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He was just I just really like George and And when he heard that I was a little consumed, he just said, Randy, hang in there.
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Your time, Ms Covered, Your time is coming, is what he said and just just hang in there.
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Don't don't get discouraged.
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And I didn't and my time came a lot pretty quickly.
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Them And it came in a huge game because that moved a mention.
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Well, with Sam Walton was in the a f l title game against the Raiders when Coach No, no, no, no, no.
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Uh, we've made to switch on the last game of the lighting.
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Okay, Go ahead.
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Yeah, I'm sorry.
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I don't mean that.
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I'm just telling you that.
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And I played that the championship game and right guard and the Super Bowl.
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By the time I got the Super Bowl, I had some experience of right guard, right? Little marks, but that what I'm saying is that such a crucial time last game of the season and then the a f l title game.
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What did you make of that decision? And how did he talk? Like, what did we say to you at that point? To get you ready for this? Well, it was kind of, um, you know, rest.
00:19:06
We got, you know, home.
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We gotta get somebody out there because we've got we had, uh what what are always, like, uh, Carl? Because the big defensive end from Oakland.
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And then we got Bubba Smith coming up and we gotta get somebody out there that can handle him.
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And they thought of moving me to tackle what they then they said.
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But, you know, I think, given given who the tackle's got and go up against.
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They wanted somebody with more experience.
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So they put her arm out there and they moved me over.
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And I was just I was just excited.
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I was excited to play.
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I didn't care for.
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Right guard, left guard. All I wanna do is play.
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And I played right tackle if they wanted me to, but, um, it was, um It was just kind of I I don't know.
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It just happened.
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I'm telling you, it just happened.
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Hey, we're making this change.
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Boom.
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You're going to right guard tell is gonna continue left garden and terms of moving out.
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So you're 23 years old at that point, What's going through your head when you know the throngs of the press around Joe, Willie and Joe, guarantees of victory in the Super Bowl.
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Whoa! What are you thinking at that point? Well, what I'm thinking is is what we've had told us.
00:20:25
We started watching films.
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We re beat the Raiders on Sunday and on Monday.
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We already had game films on the Colts, and I don't know how we pull that off.
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But we had him and we started watching them and we're watching him and the moon Watch them.
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The more you know, we we matched up really well with them.
00:20:46
They, you know, the Raiders and the Kansas City Chiefs all played that, Rick it bump and run.
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Just beat the crap by the receiver and and so you can't throw the quick pass and then our rush is going to get the quarterback and, well, that that put all all all the pressure Oh, on us for protect the quarterback.
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But way we're watching this is you know what? I think we beat these guys, and everybody else is.
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We keep washing, we keep watching it.
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And Pete Lammens he said, we do gotta stuff shows these films were gonna get overconfident, and that's when we you don't he said, Hey, guys, I don't want anybody saying anything.
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You do nothing but say the Colts are the greatest team ever.
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Just like you keep saying that, don't anybody say anything about how were you know what we're going to do.
00:21:39
And so Joe on that Thursday walked into, walked into that room and some somebody back there said, I ain't Joe.
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We're gonna kick your button, You know you're not going to do about it.
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We're gonna win, I guarantee it.
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And I'm I'm sure as the words were going out of Joe's mouth, he was trying to reach out and grab it and put him back in. But he could.
00:22:04
They were out there, and I When I heard it, I said, Oh, dear, Oh, dear.
00:22:09
This week is gonna be really upset about this, But, um, in the end, in the end, it really worked in our favor because it took all the pressure off of us and put it on your shoulders.
00:22:22
You know, General is now the target, and we're you know, so you know, we're a little less important.
00:22:29
So where there's a will, there's a little less pressure.
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That's that's the way I felt anyway.
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And by the way, he just said.
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But we were all thinking So you know what? That, um, but that's how that's the way I recalled how let you aren't a played out No, it's interesting because, you know, you guys were 18 point underdogs.
00:22:50
Joe makes that guarantee.
00:22:51
And for many people that didn't get to see Joe Nemeth play and what he brought to the Jets and just look at his full career statistics.
00:23:01
They make an argument that maybe he doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame.
00:23:04
That his numbers might not have been Hall of Fame worthy, but for that moment in time and what he did, you know, that alone makes him a Hall of Famer.
00:23:14
But what did he bring the team? You're in every offensive huddle with him.
00:23:17
What were his leadership qualities like? And what was he like as a teammate? Well, first of all, let's talk about leadership now.
00:23:26
Now, maybe I was I was young, and maybe I was impressionable.
00:23:31
But every time I was in the huddle with Joe, when he called the play, I knew that place is gonna work.
00:23:36
I knew that place.
00:23:37
You knew it.
00:23:38
And it's kind of like the whole team kind of had that feeling.
00:23:41
If it didn't work, you just shook it off.
00:23:44
He came back and he called the nexus.
00:23:45
Okay, That one's gonna work, and, you know, he was He had kind of a he have a leadership quality that, you know, that is hardly whatever Every leader has her own, their own style.
00:23:59
And Joe certainly Coast certainly had is.
00:24:02
But he was He was an excellent, excellent team leader and getting, you know, getting people to play together.
00:24:10
And there's no animosities.
00:24:12
There's no, you know, none of this hit, you know, anything going on every everybody, we're just We're one team, and and Joe is Joe was our leader.
00:24:23
It was our leader looking back at that game knowing that the team you were playing was the team You grew up as a fan off.
00:24:32
Um, although, you know, he was injured, but he was also, say, the quarterback of that team.
00:24:36
John, You nice of the teams that you grew up loving? Your coach was.
00:24:40
Now, you know he was the former coach of that team.
00:24:44
Did a lot of that stuff bring back memories to you when you saw them take the field for the Super Bowl? Oh, wow.
00:24:51
Oh, wow.
00:24:52
I tell you something, um, I wasn't sure how he's gonna react.
00:24:56
Of course, Johnny Nice was just if you're of a cold plan.
00:25:00
He was sure absolute hero.
00:25:03
And, uh, and though he wasn't anymore, well, I mean, he was, but he was still way.
00:25:11
We knew how good he waas and, you know, he was he he might plan.
00:25:15
He might not playing.
00:25:16
He didn't play, but anyway, but more so than that, I'm playing across from Billy Ray Smith.
00:25:23
Good golly, I used to watch Billy Ray Smith, you know, tearing up the Giants, you know, tearing up Green Bay and everything like that.
00:25:31
And all of a sudden she said, Hey, I could block this guy, But I got I gotta bounce with it first map, that ball game that all went away And it was strictly it was strictly What does she want to do? What is you want to do? What does Joe want to do? And, you know, my job is this and my job is this and get her done.
00:25:52
And, um and we did it bring a job that day.
00:25:56
51 years later.
00:25:57
What's a lasting memory of that day for you? You know, it was when that final gun went off and I jumped straight there and I didn't know what I use.
00:26:11
I e don't know what? I don't even know why I did it.
00:26:15
But I did.
00:26:16
I did.
00:26:17
I did have one thing I remember.
00:26:20
I said, You know, when this game is over, win or lose, I got to go shake Johnny and honest his hand, and I tried to get over there.
00:26:27
I tried to get over there and well, you know, they kind of were off the what the hell Kind of fast and I didn't get a chance to.
00:26:34
But you know, that was that double that then, then Good golly, the locker room.
00:26:40
And it was just It was unbelievable.
00:26:43
It was unbelievable.
00:26:45
We were there.
00:26:46
We were the best in the world on, uh, I never thought I'd ever be hit that thinking back to that watching that first game on that TV said in our House of coast field, Nebraska and, you know, from there in in oh, shoot, you know, like, eight or nine years way were we were there and we were the team.
00:27:10
We were the one, the one.
00:27:11
So it was quite a quite a drug.
00:27:15
It's amazing.
00:27:16
Your longevity with the Jets.
00:27:18
And, you know, we all know what happened to will.
00:27:20
His knees and the injuries.
00:27:22
As you know, will.
00:27:23
He started breaking down as a guy who had the block to make sure he didn't get hit.
00:27:29
How much did that? You know, change the way you played and the pressure put on you game in and game out and play in and play out? Actually, yeah.
00:27:38
Um oh, boy, that's a hard question to answer.
00:27:43
It didn't it Didn't change.
00:27:44
It didn't change.
00:27:46
Um, but the people around Joe's, um, skill position people around, especially at wide receivers, started changing kind of dramatically.
00:28:00
And the and, you know, the ones that came in were faster.
00:28:05
But, you know, hey, couldn't he just couldn't you had to be able to communicate, You know, half will have to play the simple movement at the place We call them at the line of scrimmage because Joe would read the defense and what he wanted and and we would, and he'd call the play and we had fun it.
00:28:25
But his receivers Maynard Sour and Lammens and Mathis and Boozer and everybody you don't.
00:28:31
They knew they were thinking the right on track with what Joe was thinking.
00:28:39
And when people tried to blitz us, when people try to bless us, we would we would kill him because some wherever the business coming from, somebody's gotta turn into that open spot and the guys would automatically do it.
00:28:54
And Joe without, wouldn't know they were gonna be there.
00:28:56
And way could take people apart if they tried Alexis so but that kind of becoming the kind of lost, that kind of continuity with this is outside, guys.
00:29:08
And, um, well, I don't know.
00:29:12
I don't know it just, um And then when you start going downhill, let's start.
00:29:16
It was It was it was pretty.
00:29:19
So market mentioned your longevity in the game.
00:29:21
How much had offensive line play changed over your career all the way into the eighties? Was there more of, Ah, running influence? Where did they get away from the run? Did you see a change to compare that also to today, where we see there's more offense now than ever, and it seems like it's harder for teams to actually have and develop good offensive lineman.
00:29:39
Yeah, baby.
00:29:41
Well, you know, obviously they they they they had to start changing the rules a little bit because of the of the quality of the player, and then not quality the size and speed.
00:29:57
Everybody said, What's the dearest routine when I played? And and now it's bigger, faster, stronger.
00:30:03
I mean, that's just that's just that's just what it is.
00:30:06
And so you have the You know, if if these guys had the block the way we had the block, you couldn't You couldn't block these defensive lineman.
00:30:16
They're too big.
00:30:17
They're too strong or too fast.
00:30:19
Um, and so you've got to give them a little, little more leeway on you know, where the hands are and things like that.
00:30:28
So idea.
00:30:30
Um, you know it.
00:30:34
The game just kind of more morphs along, and it keeps making changes.
00:30:39
But I would like to watch the offensive lineman.
00:30:42
I didn't like to watch these guys.
00:30:43
There's a lot of things very similar to what we did.
00:30:46
Um, you know, try to stay in the middle, trying to stay balanced, you know? You know, don't get thrown one way or the other.
00:30:52
But, man Oh, man.
00:30:54
Somebody's defensive alignment.
00:30:55
They these outside rushers, these outside rushers now only snakes you just You can't get there fast enough.
00:31:03
You can't get there fast enough even giving ground.
00:31:07
And there is a tough the block there.
00:31:09
Really tough.
00:31:11
Who was your toughest upon who is the toughest guy you had a line up across from over the three decades? A You know what it is The toughest defensive lineman I ever had to block.
00:31:24
I never played one game against, um, Had to go against, even practiced.
00:31:29
And when he was a rookie, had to go against him in the inner spot game.
00:31:33
Joklik.
00:31:34
Oh, gosh almighty.
00:31:36
I'm telling you.
00:31:37
I mean, I'm sure glad I don't have to block this guy every game because that, you know, he kind of had the size, strength, quickness.
00:31:48
He had everything.
00:31:49
He had it all.
00:31:50
But, you know, outside of that I mean, I had I had some great games.
00:31:54
Is Julie Adams up up in Marineland and Joe Herman down in Baltimore? You know, it would play ourselves twice, you know, home, home and and, you know, way.
00:32:06
They were good.
00:32:07
They were all good.
00:32:08
There's a lot of good defensive lineman.
00:32:10
I Alan Page, um you know, I'm not too shabby huh? Not too shabby, but Bob Lilly Bob Lilly was no.
00:32:20
He caught me when I was in my second year and he was anybody 12 year, and I'm telling you, I just I played the whole game against him.
00:32:28
I don't think I think I blocked him clean one time.
00:32:32
He just those big, long arms and everything.
00:32:35
Um, you know, well, that that was the toughest group were the Steelers Pittsburgh Steelers.
00:32:42
Jari Curtain, You anything on those guys? I mean, they were.
00:32:47
They were coordinated, They were good and they knew it.
00:32:50
Some really great names right there.
00:32:52
During their 15 seasons with the Jets, from 1967 to 1981 you played in 207 games, second in team history, toe on Lee kicker Pat Leahy.
00:33:02
You experience the hiring, that Super Bowl title as well as the low of going 11 consecutive seasons.
00:33:07
I think nine of them I had season tickets, actually, without a winning record.
00:33:12
You also had the unique distinction of being one of the few offensive Jet Lyman to score a touchdown.
00:33:18
And you did that against the Miami Dolphins.
00:33:20
Where does that moment stand in all the things you've accomplished in the three decades in the game.
00:33:26
You know, when I when I meet somebody and they finally I am, they go on Google and everything in the first thing he sees scored a touchdown against the Dolphin Room.
00:33:35
Plus, in such a date.
00:33:36
Wow, you scored a Testa? I did, but you could.
00:33:41
That touchdown was the weirdest thing that ever happened to me.
00:33:45
We were on elected.
00:33:46
Were wrong, like the six inch line way I'm right in the line.
00:33:51
I can't remember who it was, went up over the top of me and fumbled the ball.
00:33:57
Okay, Now I'm on the bottom and I look up and all of a sudden I hear I see this ball of human kind like it's coming down a tube to do like that.
00:34:08
That's why I just reached out and put my arms around me and I could see the yard marker it.
00:34:13
So I made sure that I was laying there and I had the ball over the yard marker.
00:34:18
And so they unpiloted go touchdown.
00:34:21
And they said, uh, I think I think it was Cliff Acclaim was a Clipper plane touched down their Jets Still missing is the It wasn't until the kickoff, The P A system said we made a mistake on had last understand Randy Rasmussen scored, covered, recovered a fumble in the end zone for the touchdown.
00:34:44
So it was.
00:34:45
I didn't get credit for it until the next play, but I got credit for Did you get that game ball? By any chance? I don't like.
00:34:53
I don't I don't I don't recall.
00:34:55
I did.
00:34:56
I don't recall.
00:34:57
It is not the same coordinated dancing that goes on today.
00:35:00
No, no, no, no, Randy, thank you so much for your time.
00:35:06
You know, every time when I see the calendar and long now long suffering Jet fan and I think back to being nine years old and the Jets winning the Super Bowl thinking it was gonna happen every single year, much like the Knicks.
00:35:19
And it's so and they want it one more time.
00:35:22
And I'm still waiting.
00:35:23
But, um great.
00:35:24
Year 1969 in New York Mets Jets and mix with the champion.
00:35:28
Well, my thought after the Super Bowl was Man, this is so easy.
00:35:32
We'll do this every year.
00:35:34
Well, uh, it didn't happen every year.
00:35:38
It doesn't happen every year.
00:35:39
So bad.
00:35:40
I got there for that one. Awesome.
00:35:42
Thank you so much for your time tonight.
00:35:43
We really appreciate Randy.
00:35:44
Okay, my friend.
00:35:45
You got a number 66 Randy Rasmussen, Three decades in New York Jet.
00:35:50
Um, you know, So he took a lot of play it, like, for me.
00:35:54
I mean, basically took me from a nine year old to a 21 year old.
00:35:57
You know, that was his span of my his career for me.
00:36:01
Watchband there with your streak.
00:36:03
You mentioned it was terrible.
00:36:04
Levin Joo who and the quarterbacks I picked up on that street only nine years.
00:36:11
And not only that, you take a look at.
00:36:12
I mean, once Richard Todd got their things turned around a little bit.
00:36:16
But there was a period when Joe his knees were shot in the parade of quarterbacks.
00:36:22
You know, their backups out.
00:36:23
What all was, you know, a journeyman type guy.
00:36:25
But there was Marty Thomas.
00:36:27
It was Bob Davis.
00:36:28
There were guys that you obviously have never heard of.
00:36:29
These there were no bodies, you know, and I don't mean that disrespectful, because anyone that makes the NFL's that somebody.
00:36:36
But when you go from Joe Nemeth to a Bob Davis or Joe Nemeth for Marty dominance, it is a big difference, because Joe was, it's almost like, um, for you two guys to put it in perspective.
00:36:50
Maybe after Jeter had, like, some of those unbelievable years, all of a sudden his knees just met you.
00:36:55
And unfortunately, there were two players of that generation that had happened to and hockey.
00:36:59
It was Bobby Orr.
00:37:00
When they're the greatest players, transcendent players and his knees went into the sports medicine wasn't the same.
00:37:06
No surgeries like that.
00:37:08
If those two guys were here now, they probably would have not missed anything.
00:37:12
And you missed a couple of weeks and been rehabbed and been as probably better than they were with any of the surgeries they're having now.
00:37:19
They're getting guys back on the field that it just wasn't happening.
00:37:21
It wasn't possible.
00:37:22
Tommy John is named after Tommy John because it was innovated existed.
00:37:26
All right, we're gonna take a break on the other side.
00:37:28
We're going to speak to Rust comb with the NHL report, so keep it tuned right here.
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Right now, we bring in our NHL beat reporter Russ Cone, hurt here each and every week over 5 40 AM Sports talking York, and basically there was breaking news as we went on the air.
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And that's a Ray Shero is out as a general manager of the, um, New Jersey Devils press release was said that it at 6 p.
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They relieve them.
00:40:36
They basically made the announcement outside the locker room.
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Um, and Conference General will serve as the interim GM and he'll receive support from Marty Bro Door.
00:40:44
So what do you make of this was there's something other than just performance because it it's kind of weird that you fire the coach and then a little after that, you fire the general manager.
00:40:57
Usually you do both at the same time.
00:40:59
Why do you think this move was made now? Well, especially after a win to like that.
00:41:06
But just how are things weirdly? I mean, we have to be used to that by now.
00:41:10
I've seen enough 76 or stuff here in Philly to know that.
00:41:14
But what I think happened is I'm pretty sure he was sure it was under the gun and had to come up with something good for the tailor hall trade.
00:41:24
I think they felt like probably the return wasn't that good.
00:41:27
So I think then his days were numbered.
00:41:29
And I think this is just like, you know, he just decided today was a day, so he did it.
00:41:35
But I think it all comes down to the hall trade because that's why Shiro was around this year was because he brought him in.
00:41:42
He had to trade him.
00:41:44
He had to put him in a good direction.
00:41:46
He didn't really do that.
00:41:48
And so now you've got this other combination where Listen, four door has no experience in this whatsoever.
00:41:56
And Fitzgerald is not gonna be able to call around and have instant success trying to make trades like maybe Shiro could.
00:42:06
So we're gonna say, Well, because right now they have guys, they have to move.
00:42:11
Same involvement has to go, and the green has to go.
00:42:15
You know, there was this weird court where Josh Harris says they're, you know, they're expecting to be instantly competitive.
00:42:20
And I'm like, Well, how is firing the GM gonna make him competitive? Yuri board another coach.
00:42:26
And they're just slightly more competitive.
00:42:28
Like they just don't have the players.
00:42:30
Yeah, strange timing for me as well on your right, who they replaced them with. I agree.
00:42:35
I don't know it just really for a team that really had such stability for so many years.
00:42:41
And even when they're the roster wasn't the most talented.
00:42:44
They had a system in place that made them compete.
00:42:46
And we were always moral.
00:42:47
That how the devil did not fall off the table.
00:42:50
Well, now they find out I have, and I believe it's gonna be a long time before the Devils get back any semblance of what they were for many, many years.
00:42:57
So it's gonna be an interesting watch over there in New Jersey.
00:43:00
Ah, big news is Sidney Crosby's return is imminent After his 27 games missed after his core muscle surgery.
00:43:07
What do you think we're going to see out of Sydney? And you know he's still, you know, we think of him as this grizzled veteran, but he's still fairly young.
00:43:17
Um, do you think we're going to see the Sidney Crosby, 31? But he has no lots of play again.
00:43:25
31.
00:43:26
But so many playoff games, Olympics right and lots of injury.
00:43:29
What do you think? It's And it's funny because we were coming out of a segment where we were just talking about Joe Nemeth and Ryan made a tremendous point, and I told them that two of the preeminent athletes of of that era were Bobby Orr and no name it, and their injuries were really debilitating.
00:43:46
And Ryan made a great point that had they been around now with the medical marvels, though, and the surgeries that around today their careers would have been prolonged and they wouldn't have been the way they were debilitated.
00:43:59
What can we expect from Sydney? What type of game do you think we'll see from him? Will he get back to that level? Yeah, I think he'll be I think he will be back at that level on right now.
00:44:09
His team is playing great.
00:44:10
And so you could make the argument that even though nobody thought it right now, I mean, we did talk about their goaltending tandem, preseason or early on the season on the show, and they have one of the best, if not the best.
00:44:23
So I mean, they're back of gold is going to the All Star Game.
00:44:26
So I think they're in really good shape, actually, and this could be a year.
00:44:30
We're now probably healthy.
00:44:32
They really could make a run.
00:44:33
And it's interesting because it's the opposite of what happened with the Eagles.
00:44:37
Like the Sean Jackson had this course surgery, this core injury decided to rehab.
00:44:41
It never got back and then all of a sudden said, Well, I got to get the surgery and then they were like, Well, he could be back there in the second round of the playoffs, But they're not the minute because we got this injury.
00:44:50
He went for the surgery immediately and that's how you do it and that's exactly what you do.
00:44:55
You take yourself by that action and you get back as quick as you can and that he's a pro with this and he's great at rehabbing and I don't expect any drop off.
00:45:04
You mentioned their goalie tandem.
00:45:06
Big news here in New York that the Igor Serkin era is possibly started.
00:45:12
We don't know if he's gonna be going back down, but he played two games.
00:45:15
He won them both.
00:45:16
Followed up with the lost by Hank, you know, be interesting to see if they use Igor against the Islanders tomorrow night.
00:45:22
What do you make about Igor of eager and his 1st 2 starts in the NHL? I thought you looked really good.
00:45:27
I mean, you know, Adam Fox probably owes him a dinner because you don't want to ever let me kidding coming on a breakaway.
00:45:33
That was awful.
00:45:34
But now he looked good.
00:45:36
And aside from some really bad announce work by Mike Milbury saying that he had looked comfortable on everything else and comes out wins that game.
00:45:44
I just you know, goaltending is past Mike by maybe a few other things have to, but he look good.
00:45:50
You look calm.
00:45:51
He's great with the stick.
00:45:52
You saw that first game he was never make that headman path.
00:45:54
I don't know if it was Obama job.
00:45:55
Whoever it was got instant shot on goal like there's a lot of things he can do, and all he has to do is figure out the Rangers defense and communication like that's it.
00:46:04
Everything else will be fine.
00:46:05
So Georg is really the odd man out now.
00:46:08
And they really do need to put him on the, you know, on the block and get him traded as soon as possible.
00:46:15
There is no point in holding three goalies now.
00:46:17
They can do it because I don't necessarily think they're really vying for a playoff spot.
00:46:22
But it's just gonna not be great for the goalie's because there's always gonna be this question like, Well, who's up next? And these questions will always get answers to questions asked of Quinn.
00:46:31
And the Rangers didn't exactly handle a great because Lundquist didn't know this was happening, which is Turk.
00:46:36
And at that time, and neither Georgette when he was asked for now.
00:46:40
Yes, you're give.
00:46:41
When he started again, he would probably say, I don't know.
00:46:43
It's funny you mentioned Milbury because I almost lost it in the pregame press conference of It wasn't an MSG game, it was an NBC game.
00:46:50
So Milbury was in the press conference and he asked Coach Quin He goes, How are you going to deal with a three goalie rotation? He goes, you know, in my experience in the NHL thing doesn't work.
00:47:01
And I'm shafting devious but in my mind and say I kept on saying, Wait a minute.
00:47:06
He had fish.
00:47:07
Oh, sod of Strom.
00:47:08
And he had four goalies one season, three of which were on the roster at the same time.
00:47:13
And I turned the, um, Carpi, who was next to me.
00:47:16
Yeah, and said This guy had three goalies.
00:47:18
What is he saying? And said, I better shut up or he's gonna take your shoe off.
00:47:21
But yeah, Master Square Garden and Milbury and Shoes is not a good thing.
00:47:25
So all right, Russ will speak to you next week.
00:47:26
Thanks so much.
00:47:27
I gotta get We're gonna play him out a little bit.
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Just a few seconds.
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We have to do this because you know, a huge hockey fan.
00:47:35
Great musician Neil Peart of Rush passed away, but he did the intro in Canada to the NHL tonight.
00:47:52
There you go, Theo.
00:47:56
Theo, you got to see the video.
00:47:58
It's the drum. It is unbelievable.
00:48:00
So we move from the ice.
00:48:01
We go over the hardwood.
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We bring in our n b A Beat reporter Kim Tauber heard here each and every week over 5 40 AM Sports Talk New York time.
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What I want this star out with is you listen.
00:48:12
Yeah, he's a great player.
00:48:13
Absolutely.
00:48:14
He's a 45th player in NBA history to score 20,000 career points, and I'm talking about James Harden.
00:48:19
I don't know if James Harden gets enough credit for how good a basketball player he is.
00:48:25
Well, you know, we talk about LeBron, we talk about Kyrie.
00:48:28
We talk about all these players and we talk about hard when he has, you know, the amazing streak.
00:48:35
But we don't talk about his greatness, and I really think he's one of the great players of the air.
00:48:40
Why don't you think Harden gets the credibility that he should? If you're really a question mark, Um, remember to say, um especially amongst his peers in an hour, that's no scoring dominating.
00:48:57
Um, he's doing a great scores.
00:48:59
We've ever seen on.
00:49:02
That's almost you can't dispute it.
00:49:06
Never bring up almost profound conclusion that if James Horton wants to get 50 that night and it was right, where your soul in the garden by himself, you get ***ually.
00:49:19
It's just a matter of what he wants to or not.
00:49:22
I think the difference is that James Corden is just so unconventional.
00:49:27
How he goes about Juliette.
00:49:28
This is the era of the freak athlete.
00:49:31
You have long one key players, especially floor guys.
00:49:34
Guys are able jonesing truck in the transition to the same idea.
00:49:40
Big athletic freak able to go you here. Kevin Durant.
00:49:43
The War was able to play the post.
00:49:46
Hit the three.
00:49:47
I'm Anthony Davis.
00:49:48
All these guys kind of pace is almost unfair of it.
00:49:53
It's really touching the same old.
00:49:55
You have long, athletic what was traditionally the day before or five.
00:49:59
Back in the day, I was able to do the hard stuff and put up numbers and bucket shoes.
00:50:03
Harden in that guy, James Harden, then James Horton doesn't rebound here is hardly traditional pastor or clear maker.
00:50:11
They're intelligent guys who has managed to find stroke using the rules of the n b a r t a n g eight of getting a foul whenever he wants of generally continuation of terms that back 3/4 of his, which is now.
00:50:27
You look around the NBA for your trial rules.
00:50:33
Turn that into almost every shot.
00:50:37
Maybe a Cory half court.
00:50:39
Eat your way, dominates our super dominate statistically, and I think that really overshadowed what he agree.
00:50:49
And you mentioned the Greek freak and you know, so many people are on that bandwagon.
00:50:53
But Harden has done it for so long.
00:50:55
I think they were.
00:50:56
Both were in the N.
00:50:57
V P conversation last year.
00:50:58
So Harding, that's the ABP conversation Just saying Ever wins it.
00:51:01
No, but it's definitely a difference.
00:51:04
I know if there's a disconnect in the fan base, there's something about hard on that.
00:51:07
He's not the poster boy for the NBA's Like when I think in the court of public opinion opinion, he loses on the defense way defense.
00:51:21
Probably bad.
00:51:24
You're on apathetic.
00:51:25
I mean terms of Well, this back in the booth.
00:51:28
No, that did not stop in.
00:51:30
You could have.
00:51:32
It wasn't very lucky.
00:51:33
Would be changed.
00:51:34
Harden Every single time you have that knocking some offense of players before, but never to this degree.
00:51:45
There's also a reality that he didn't fit well with other players.
00:51:49
Chris Paul, the ultimate distributor.
00:51:50
They take great together.
00:51:53
Where there was concerned.
00:51:54
Russell Westbrook.
00:51:55
Um, they were not gonna fit great together.
00:51:58
The concern with everybody you care about James Harden.
00:52:01
If you're not sharing them with James Harden, you just have them on the floor in case James Harden happens to kick it out.
00:52:06
But he's coming up on Lem on one.
00:52:08
He's more of a traditional ST ballplayer, all alone in a three on three type player.
00:52:13
You know, five on five way can score at will that defenses don't Dad is laughable.
00:52:20
Seriously, Gonna focus stock when you're talking about Kobe Bryant and his first to the Michael Jordan of the guys who competed Griffin time shooting guards and scores agreed.
00:52:31
All right time.
00:52:32
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You know, I've never had an intro like that.
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My goodness, I didn't even know.
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Although I actually we love.
00:59:30
So you know, your career is really quite interesting.
00:59:34
In high school, you were a stand out as a sop****re playing both sides of the ball.
00:59:38
You're a tight end in defense of end on the Pacific High School varsity team in Garden Grove, California You suffered a dislocated shoulder required medical attention.
00:59:47
The doctor who treated you would have a profound effect on what happened next, as he told you about ah, former pro kicker who played in the NFL from 1945 3 1959 So can you fill our audience in who that kicker was and what he eventually meant to your career? Well, sure, it was funny.
01:00:06
Yeah, I went there for my shoulder and he was talking to me and I said, Yeah, play football is like, What position? You know, I travel awesome positions of any and I said, Kicker also and he says, Oh, your kicker.
01:00:17
You know Ben Agajanian, You ever go down to his camps and I'm like, uh, I have no idea who that is And no, I have not.
01:00:27
And so my dad was with me at the time, and we were talking to Dr together, and he knew who Ben Waas.
01:00:32
And neither one of us knew that he had these camps at Long Beach State, which is not very far at all from where I was and I grew up in West Garden Grove, which is right next to Ah, um, Long Beach.
01:00:45
And my dad actually grew up in Long Beach.
01:00:47
Anyway, we, uh he tells me about these Wednesday camp say so I showed up and, uh, met Ben and plant took me under my wing and under his wing.
01:00:56
Excuse me.
01:00:57
And, uh, he was, uh, the kicking coach.
01:01:00
I think he was the only ticking Coast special teams coach butt kicking coach ever in the NFL under Tom Landry with the Dallas Cowboys.
01:01:09
But he lived out in my area, and one thing led to another.
01:01:13
Next, you know, we became very close.
01:01:16
I was running, helping run his camps and doing demonstrations.
01:01:21
And he was, ah, very big influence.
01:01:24
And I think even influence be getting too.
01:01:25
You see a way down there? Well, it's interesting because you sell a, which was where your father actually went.
01:01:31
Offers you a scholarship to be their place kicker.
01:01:34
Other schools were offering other incentives, like the opportunity to play more than one position.
01:01:38
What about playing for future College Hall of Fame coach Terry Donahue and the U.
01:01:43
C.
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L.
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A. Bruins appealed to you more than some of the other offers.
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Well, you you know a big reason was my dad had gone.
01:01:51
He had been both at U. C L.
01:01:53
A and a University of Santa Barbara.
01:01:55
That's like my dad is in the Groucho, the Santa Barbara Hall of Fame for football, and they don't even have a football program anymore.
01:02:01
But, um, that was one of them and also that it was close to home.
01:02:06
So those two factors and, you know, I didn't have very many offers.
01:02:12
Um, I you know I have.
01:02:14
But once you say I got into the, uh threw her hat in the ring, I was all for it.
01:02:20
And you have a nice career.
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U C l A.
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But you go undrafted in the 82 NFL draft.
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Part of that reason was at Michigan State's Morten Andersen and Syracuse is Gary Anderson to college.
01:02:30
Seniors were in that same draft class.
01:02:32
You signed a free agent contract with the Seahawks.
01:02:34
Ah, and it's interesting because I looked at the landscape of the NFL at that point and where you signed, they had a Pro Bowler and effort.
01:02:43
Herrera. He was already there in Seattle.
01:02:45
What appealed to you about Seattle? Well, got funny this is kind of a long story, but, um, effort was holding out, and I guess he'd actually even said some derogatory things about the ownership, which was, you know, the Nordstrom and Nordstrom's Air top knot.
01:03:07
And so my agent at the time, Bruce, someone down there told me that the Seahawks are not really happy with effort during his hold out.
01:03:17
So we looked at it as an opportunity.
01:03:20
Well, I ended up.
01:03:21
I'll give you the short version of this Cliff notes.
01:03:25
So I signed with Seattle thinking that there's you always look for an opportunity hard enough to get your foot in the door somewhere.
01:03:32
But if you have potentially an opportunity, that's where you wanna jump at.
01:03:37
Um, I signed with Seattle Bennett.
01:03:41
Ben Agajanian called me up and says, Why did you sign with Seattle? And I said, Well, because it looks like there might be an opportunity says, I know, effort.
01:03:52
He's a good picker, he says.
01:03:53
And I just took the special teams Well, this was back in 82.
01:03:59
So when all backup, when Ben was with the Cowboys Tom Landry, the special teams coach Mike Ditka, Mike Ditka goes and becomes the head coach of the Chicago Bears.
01:04:13
So ****o worked with Ben.
01:04:14
Agajanian is kicking coach, and he's bringing him up to Chicago and he said, I'll go if you guys get Norm Johnson.
01:04:23
Well, I said the banister.
01:04:25
Why didn't you tell me this? This is news.
01:04:29
I found out much later, and I was really actually deflated because I would have been a shoo in because Ben would have been, um, you know, my coach And he would have been I would have made that team for sure.
01:04:44
And I'm like, Oh, no.
01:04:45
Now I gotta go battle it out.
01:04:46
That effect.
01:04:47
We had seven pickers in Seattle, but now you're looking back on it.
01:04:51
It was a very good move for me, and and, um, things work that well, but the prime I just like Ben.
01:04:57
How could you not have told me this information? Because I was also talking to be talking to 17 as a puppet on a free agent in Chicago.
01:05:06
Was one of them.
01:05:08
Had I known that Ben was going up there to follow Dica.
01:05:11
Um, I would have definitely gone up there, and I might have been on that 85 Super Bowl team.
01:05:18
Instead, it was Caron Butler.
01:05:21
Interesting.
01:05:22
You would have been in the video, but you know, that team was built.
01:05:25
McMahon was a good quarterback, but they were built on defense.
01:05:28
I don't know if you would have had the same amount of points as you put up, you know those years in Seattle.
01:05:33
But that is interesting.
01:05:34
That is very, you know, a day after you sign.
01:05:37
That's crazy.
01:05:38
But it didn't take long for you to into yourself to the Seahawk nation.
01:05:42
November 27th 1983.
01:05:44
Seahawks versus Kansas City You hit your 3rd 42 yarder of the game.
01:05:48
Um, you guys win that game 51 48 in For what years was the third highest scoring game in NFL history early in your career.
01:05:57
It's a big game for the Seahawks.
01:05:58
They end up making the playoffs and making it all the way to the NFC championship game.
01:06:03
Do you remember that game at all? And because it was such a huge game in Seattle Seahawks history, I actually do, and I'll give you the short version of this one, too, is it? Didn't seem like either team.
01:06:17
Defense showed up and we and we had Kurt Warner.
01:06:20
He was a rookie sensation, lot of Penn State.
01:06:23
He was unbelievable.
01:06:24
And, you know, we were running on Kansas City.
01:06:27
Put one right or left.
01:06:29
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
01:06:31
And we get down to the end and we you know, the game's 48 48 at the end of regulation.
01:06:38
So the whole question was, whoever gets the coin flips gonna win.
01:06:42
Either defense could stop the other team, will we? Luckily, won the coin flip.
01:06:46
We get a great kick off return.
01:06:50
I'm thinking, Oh my goodness and turn up.
01:06:52
It's Kurt Warner, right? Kurt Warner left foot one right? Kurt Warner left.
01:06:56
Here's what.
01:06:57
Honest to God going through my head.
01:06:59
You know, my rookie Stevens was short with the strike, so this is really my first full season and I'm looking at the scoreboard.
01:07:05
I'm actually back in his back, drinking Gatorade.
01:07:07
We've already crossed the 50 yard line.
01:07:09
I'm thinking, well, in overtime by first overtime game.
01:07:14
When you scored, you even kick the extra point.
01:07:17
This is what's going through my head.
01:07:18
I'm figure we're gonna drive right down and it's third down and I hear something sounds like a field goal team, and I wasn't standing on the sidelines right at the moment.
01:07:31
I stand a little bit ****her back and I kind of get on my tippy toes.
01:07:35
I see this big group run in.
01:07:37
I went up to the sidelines and Chuck Knox was our coach.
01:07:40
You call her physical team.
01:07:42
He looks at me with these big Jenna and eyes in there.
01:07:46
I run in their late.
01:07:47
They've already broken the huddle.
01:07:49
Jim Zorn's court.
01:07:50
Uh, he was a quarterback, but he was also the my holder.
01:07:54
They break the huddle, we line up, we, you snap the ball, they kick it.
01:07:59
Game's over, we win.
01:08:01
And we kicked on third down.
01:08:02
And it just shocked the heck out of because I thought we were gonna just walk in there.
01:08:07
And Chuck Knox Hey, came from Buffalo at this time.
01:08:11
He came in after the game, he was making comments to the media and he says, Yeah, I've been through this before where we would drive down and I had a fumble on these rises.
01:08:23
We were running in the past and possibly I could do that again.
01:08:26
We had a good kicker, and as soon as we got close enough on third down, we're gonna kick to win the game.
01:08:33
And so, like, Wow, I wish I would have known that he felt that way a little more prepared.
01:08:39
But looking back, it worked out.
01:08:41
We're talking to Mr Automatic Norm Johnson.
01:08:43
You went to the Atlanta Falcons in 1991 before the Pittsburgh That was before the Pittsburgh Steelers signed you four years later.
01:08:50
Your first year there, you make it to the Super Bowl and always look at the place kicker and kind of equate him to the relief pitcher.
01:08:56
In baseball, you do your job and people don't notice.
01:09:00
You don't do your job, you blow a save, and you're the reason why the team lost.
01:09:04
You mentioned the name Scott Norwood to anyone, and immediately they just go wide right.
01:09:09
I have to imagine that you know, it's one of the most pressure filled positions in professional sports, and then when you magnify it, you know, on the stage of a Super Bowl, how do you steady your nerves, knowing that at any given moment the game could come down to you for a championship.
01:09:27
How do you prepare yourself mentally for that challenge? You know, that's really challenging.
01:09:32
And the way you put that is, uh, the first.
01:09:38
I'll tell you kind of how that stuff is.
01:09:41
You know, Scott Norwood had a great career up there in Buffalo.
01:09:44
Buffalo is a horrible place to kick.
01:09:46
And he was where with Jim Kelly and Marv Levy and all those guys.
01:09:50
And they had some tremendous games.
01:09:53
But both the time.
01:09:54
You're not, really, Why, If you're living somewhere else in the country, you're not watching Buffalo a lot even even know they're really popular.
01:10:03
Bottom people probably were.
01:10:04
But, like with Seattle, Oh, um, I should say, When I was with Seattle, not everybody was watching us.
01:10:11
I went to Pittsburgh and LA People watched the Pittsburgh Steelers.
01:10:14
But when you get to that stage of the Super Bowl and you know there's only one game is only two teams and now every football fan in the world and even outside of this world now, viewing a giant stage.
01:10:29
Ah, big game.
01:10:31
You realize Holy cow.
01:10:32
There's so many people out there that don't know either Scott Norwood is or who Norm Johnson is that they're all gonna be watching me, and they're gonna base their opinion of my me and my career on one game.
01:10:47
That's a pretty big weight to carry around.
01:10:50
And when I played in the Super Bowl and I was my 14 year, I think in the league and my first appearance in the in the Super Bowl, you have about two weeks before that game.
01:11:02
With that first week, the thought of that was weighing really heavy.
01:11:06
I'm thinking there could be people in Mexico and all over the world and all over the country who don't really know who Norm Johnson is, what kind of career he had for 14 years.
01:11:16
They're going to base their opinion on how good a kicker I am and who I am on one game, and that was a really big weight to carry around.
01:11:25
But the following week and I got less and less and by game time and the good ones can kind of do this.
01:11:33
You get once you get to the game, strap that helmet on it, blow the whistle you're treating every game is the same.
01:11:42
You can't say, Oh, this is a big game So I gotta play big or I don't want to be.
01:11:49
I don't want to choke.
01:11:50
You can't think of it any differently.
01:11:52
And what is kind of funny is a lot of the big players, and we have a big one appear Russell Wilson.
01:11:58
This is a really shine and and, uh, coach, um, be Carol seemed to really shine in the big games, but I bet they really don't treat him any differently.
01:12:09
The approach it as the same game as it wa sare said the situation is the famous beginning of the year that middle of the year, the end of the year, the cross.
01:12:22
And when you couldn't do that, when you've been treating every game as just another game or you come to play every Sunday, I mean you, you get your heart racing and you're playing every Sunday as if it's championship.
01:12:36
You have the best chance of playing your best in a big stage.
01:12:41
I just I just wrapped around my head when that place kicker goes out there, you know, game on the line, how much they have to block stuff out.
01:12:50
One of the things that always, you know, I find comical.
01:12:54
Is that happened? I guess probably over the last 20 years.
01:12:57
I don't think back in the seventies, I don't ever remember it happening when I had season tickets to the Jets and and maybe the Jets, never in the seventies got to a point where they had a chance to win a game at the end.
01:13:07
But icing the kicker.
01:13:09
Does that have an effect on you at all? When the opposing coach calls a timeout when you're lying and when you're just about to kick and he calls a time out? Well, here's what's really important to a kicker.
01:13:21
Field conditions.
01:13:22
Make sure that you don't.
01:13:23
Your left foot doesn't slip your plant leg.
01:13:26
Make sure that you have a good distance, the proper distance from the centre to your holder, and you gotta take into a lot of things.
01:13:33
Um, very quickly.
01:13:36
Well, if what I would do is, I would turn that against the opposing team.
01:13:42
If they gave me a time out, I'd be able to say go.
01:13:46
Thank goodness.
01:13:47
I'm gonna take a deep breath.
01:13:48
Now I'm going to make sure I'm the exact right distance.
01:13:51
Seven faith recorders yards.
01:13:55
I'm gonna make sure that plant my plant foot has really good footing.
01:13:59
I'm gonna move it around.
01:14:01
I'm gonna tell my my holder how I want the lean of the ball, depending on the wind.
01:14:05
And I'm gonna happen to use that to my advantage.
01:14:09
If I was kicking in doors and I was lucky enough to kick a few years indoors, I've run back off the field and I and wait for the time out to be over and run back on the field as if it never happened.
01:14:22
I think the last thing a kicker should do stand out there in the middle of a field and start thinking about this crowd.
01:14:31
Start thinking about who's watching, how many people are watching, how big time of the game this is.
01:14:39
And and home court this kick is, and I think if you do that, you play into their hands.
01:14:45
But I I never allowed that.
01:14:48
I always either thank them.
01:14:49
Thank goodness I have a timeout.
01:14:52
Take extra time.
01:14:54
Time's running out there breaking the huddle, countback getting lined up properly and do never all the pre trick routine.
01:15:05
It's not always easy in the time allotted, so if you could use it as a, uh, a welcomed timeout as opposed to, um, the other things that I just talked about it said nothing about think that moment is, Lastly, where can people find out what you're doing these days on social media? What are you up to these days? Well, you know, I'm doing something that I'm so excited about them.
01:15:31
I'm helping people in the biggest ways I've got.
01:15:35
Um I got my hands on technology that is not well known out there That can relieve people that we absolutely crushed people, that people who have I'm talking about their home loans or car loans or student loans taken from the 30 years 345 years and doing this with technology.
01:15:55
And we are saving people being our company has done $2 billion of people's that and then we take them into a tax free risk.
01:16:04
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01:16:05
I'm so excited about that.
01:16:07
And people want to hear about that.
01:16:09
I'd love it Possible.
01:16:10
Calm personally if they go to my website at norm johnson dot com and say I'd like to hear more about, uh, becoming tax free.
01:16:19
And, uh, I'm exceedingly debt free and retiring, possibly on tax free income.
01:16:25
Um, it's It's amazing what we're doing with people's lives to hope. I love it.
01:16:30
Awesome.
01:16:31
Normally appreciate it. Easy website to remember.
01:16:33
Norm johnson dot com Ah, you're Seahawks right now.
01:16:36
Trail the Green Bay Packers 21 3 and 1/2.
01:16:38
We appreciate you.
01:16:39
I know we were trying to get you right at halftime, and we almost did it.
01:16:43
We've got a minute.
01:16:45
It was close, I told you.
01:16:46
But I really appreciate you coming on tonight.
01:16:49
You embark, Have a good one.
01:16:51
Thank you for having me.
01:16:52
You, too, Mr Automatic.
01:16:54
Norm Johnson will take a quick break.
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We'll talk Sunday papers with Ryan Sherman right after this break.
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You know what that theme music means if you're a longtime listener of the show, and if you're not a long time listener show Shame on you.
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But that music means it's time for our weird story of the weekend.
01:18:26
Normally, A J doesn't but A J is on his two month hiatus, so honored to fill in So one of the best segment job.
01:18:32
So we have a funny story of maybe effort, place in the wrong places.
01:18:37
So I started reading this story that someone is suing the Yankees and the Reds for failure to give him a full chance.
01:18:45
So he sued the Yankees in 2018 for $34.
01:18:48
4 million in an effort that was thwarted by trying to preserve Derek years career.
01:18:57
So he's saying that Derek Jeter got in the way of his career and then also his complaint with the Reds.
01:19:03
To sum it up quickly was that there's some kind of age is, um, going into who is getting a tryout being that he was 30.
01:19:10
The tryouts were between 16 and 22.
01:19:12
That's the suit there.
01:19:13
What's interesting is that I found out in the article that he's representing himself.
01:19:17
So as he was going through his mind early career, he also put himself through law school and is representing himself in the case, which is interesting.
01:19:25
But is that effort kind of lost where he could have been, maybe practicing more? I don't know tryingto make the career happen, but or a TTE some point.
01:19:34
Did he realize the best way to get on the field is to sue someone so two things that instantly go through my mind while you're coming? This story first? I'm envisioning this guy is my cousin Vinny, and you're going before the judge trying to try this case, and the second thing I'm going through now is now, you know why a J It's not here.
01:19:52
I think A J is suing F A n and Mike Francesa for not allowing him to take over the princesses and ageism because, you know, we we all know how old A J is.
01:20:02
Well, it may be representing him, so I could see that too.
01:20:04
I could definitely see a strong minded.
01:20:06
Yeah, be interesting.
01:20:08
All right, so J is away.
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And we're gonna play like, five months from now when you do it.
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I mean, it was good for first of all, no warning.
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We just handed him the copy. Good stuff.
01:21:20
All right, so let's talk NFL football.
01:21:21
Uh, you know, we have to talk about today's game because that, to me, was the game of the weekend.
01:21:26
First of all, you know, if you're a longtime listener of this show, how much I love Pat Mahomes? Just a because of his connection to the Mets and a sort of made today we're just the wound while dropping the one that is going to the left, and he drops it into Kelsey as he's going across the line, grab it on the line and keeping his foot in the air, straddling the line to make sure he didn't cross over the line of scrimmage. Unbelievable.
01:21:50
And it's it's unbelievable because it works.
01:21:52
But it was one of those plays were going Oh, no, don't don't know.
01:21:55
And it worked out.
01:21:56
Certainly that they were down 24.
01:21:59
Nothing.
01:22:00
And you could tell it didn't faze him in the least.
01:22:03
First of all, the crowd in Kansas City.
01:22:05
Kudos to them because that was just a frenzy to outscore your opponent 51 to 7 when you were losing 24.
01:22:14
Nothing is unbelievable.
01:22:15
I mentioned this before we started this show.
01:22:17
I just wish there was more punching back like a back and forth.
01:22:20
It just was all all Texans And then all of them.
01:22:23
It was an avalanche.
01:22:24
It was.
01:22:25
And you know what? You have to have some sort of answer defensively, and they didn't and and that was a little disconcerting because they were just then they made such an adjustment.
01:22:36
I think the chief's made such a great adjustment.
01:22:40
They went down 24 but I have certain for you they were gonna have to stop giving out points, and they did so that's not being talked about.
01:22:46
Give the Chiefs credit for making the turn around.
01:22:47
What happened to the Texans, right? There was no answer, No answer whatsoever.
01:22:52
Listen, you got to give Kansas City, you know, full credit.
01:22:56
He's a great coach.
01:22:57
We've seen it before with the other teams that he's coached, you know, just they had a game plan.
01:23:02
They never panicked.
01:23:04
It was unbelievable.
01:23:05
Right now the Green Bay Packers great story, another.
01:23:08
Listen, I love my homes, but I also love news and Roger's right.
01:23:13
So the Packers another great story.
01:23:15
Uh, San Francisco 40 Niners.
01:23:18
You know, 49 years of Green Bay is gonna be great.
01:23:20
I think that's what we're going to see, and that's gonna be a great game and stuff.
01:23:23
But, you know, Titans vs Chiefs Where you had on that? Here's a difference.
01:23:29
The Titans are the only team in this mix that's still left that has a legitimate run game.
01:23:34
There's no more run game in the NFL, but the Titans have one of those seasons by running the ball. Ryan Tannehill.
01:23:40
You know, if you say Mahomes Rogers, you know, and then you say Tannehill's Yeah, you know that's the That's like the bar, a line from Sesame Street.
01:23:49
One of these things is not like the other.
01:23:50
So really quickly.
01:23:51
We'll have a minute and 1/2 in that game way, so it's amazing that they've done this.
01:23:55
They they're doing it with a quarterback throwing under 100 yards, but he threw for two touchdowns, but ah, 180 yards for three straight games for Derrick Henry.
01:24:03
Like you said, there's no running game in the NFL anymore, but they're doing it on a game to game basis.
01:24:08
I guess we don't know what's gonna happen because they're the hot team, which is interesting.
01:24:12
That's the fun part.
01:24:13
Is there the team that's hot? You know, not the best team, but the team playing the best Kansas City Green Bay will be.
01:24:19
You know that will be a phenomenal Super Bowl, if that's what we're looking at that center and to get Roger's it.
01:24:26
Holmes, I don't know these guys.
01:24:29
The changing of the guard almost.
01:24:31
Yeah, absolutely.
01:24:32
All right.
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We appreciate everyone tuning in.
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Thanks everyone for tune in and we'll see everyone next week and enjoy the football.
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