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00:00:01
Hello Lakers nation.
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Welcome in my name's Trevor Lane, and this is the Lakers Nation postgame show.
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And my goodness, do we have a show tonight? The Lakers just pulled off a phenomenal winner and unexpected win 1 25 to 1 10 They dominated the Oklahoma City thunder despite not having LeBron James, Anthony Davis or Danny Green three starters out of action for the Lakers.
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And everyone stepped up the entire team, stepped up and got a win on the second night of a back to back on the road.
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Wow, I am blown away by what we just saw from this team.
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Incredible stuff.
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We're going to dive into it, But first guys make sure you are following Lakers nation across social media.
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We're heading into the trade deadline.
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There's gonna be a lot of stuff coming out to make sure you're following at Lakers Nation on Twitter and Facebook at Lakers Nation official on Instagram.
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And don't forget, hit that subscribe button on the Lakers nation YouTube channel and ring the bell.
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Get notified every time we have a new video coming out like I just did one about about the latest trade rumors.
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Make sure you guys go take a look at that.
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What? Rob Politicas extension and promotion.
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It means for the Lakers on the trade front and who they might be looking to ship out.
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So check out that on the YouTube channel.
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Joining me tonight is Chris Masters.
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Follow him on Twitter at Chris A Donuts and on Instagram at Chris Masters 310 Kris.
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Incredible night, man. Thanks.
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Thanks for coming in.
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Joining me.
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Oh, yeah.
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That was no problem. No problem.
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That was a really encouraging win right there.
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I mean, they were actually, they were absolutely on fire.
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Everybody was contributing.
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It was just ah, hell of the first half.
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I mean, hell of a whole game.
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But, you know, the Oklahoma City Thunder did make a little run or start to gain some momentum in the third, but the Lakers answered, kind of headed by coups and Rondo of all people.
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We've given Rondo so much heat, but I'm really on, You know, even this has all been awesome to see.
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I didn't get to see yesterday's game, as you know, but I mean, it looks like they pretty much dominated that match up, and then they come in and do this without I mean, this was the situation we always talk about, like we're really it's always okay if we don't have LeBron.
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Or maybe we don't have a D But we didn't have both guys and we didn't have green and they were able to absolutely dominate tonight, and this is exactly what we would want to see.
00:02:15
This is awesome.
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Yeah.
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I mean, look, the Lakersbench has been under fire, and for good reason, the bench kept blowing leads.
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Whenever LeBron James is out, the offense look terrible.
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And yet here they are, pretty much an entire bench unit for the entire game.
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And they blow out a team that's been red hot to be.
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The Thunder just took out the Houston Rockets the other night, and I want to talk about that a little bit because look, okay, see? Yeah, there's a little bit of an emotional letdown when you go from a game where Russell Westbrook is coming back into town and all the eyes are on you and all that.
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Then the next game up there can kind of be a little bit of ah let down.
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I think we did see that a little bit from the thunder tonight, but at the same time, you just have to credit the Lakers and the guys who were here.
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They've had this next man up mantra for the entire season.
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And, man, did they step up tonight.
00:03:01
Incredible stuff, and especially the guy that we need to dive into it because he's already lighting up our our chat here.
00:03:07
People are talking about Kyle Kuzma.
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What did you think about his performance tonight? It was amazing.
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I mean, offensively he was doing I mean, we know he's capable of these things.
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It's just we don't know.
00:03:18
We see it like he's doesn't seem like he's within the flow of the game a lot of times, but tonight he was obviously given a lot more responsibility, and he answered, I mean, we came on this show a few.
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What was it? The show before last and we were giving him, you know, we were We were kind of betting if he's gonna be under over 20.
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Well, I think you finished with 36 points tonight, So he more than answered and quite frankly, for who's this is just exactly what he needed to do so.
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It's not really like we can.
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I mean, it's awesome for him and we'll definitely celebrate and we're happy we won.
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But this is really what Crews had to do, especially in this moment, with a D and LeBron being down and, you know, it's just it's very encouraging to see.
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I mean, he was busting out all the offense and move tonight. Moves tonight.
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He had all the tricks, right? Yeah, he was showing the versatility.
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He was hitting for deep.
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He was getting into the paint, doing everything for the team.
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Seven boards, 36 points on 15 of 24 shooting, four of six from three for Kyle Kuzma.
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What a performance from him And and what do you do now? Like that? I mean, he is the name.
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He's the one guy that trade rumors have been swirling around because he's probably the Lakers most valuable non LeBron or a D piece.
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Right now, our most tradeable piece is Kyle Kuzma.
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What do you do now? Like if you're rumple Inca, do you point to this performance and say, Look, everybody better, better be willing to give us something really good for Kakuma Or do you just say that's it? We're not Trade them. This guy's too good.
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He's part of our future core.
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Where do you go from here? Ah, that's tough trouble.
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I mean, I like a lot of people.
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I mean, I love coups, and, um, it's This is really hard to speculate on these things because you don't want automatic.
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You know, it's hard to say about one of your players.
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Always should trade him or what not.
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But I'll just say, if I was speculating and I still think, I mean, it's obviously helps the cause.
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I think either way, it helps.
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The cause for instinct helps the cause for trading, and that's why it's so weird.
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But I still think that if I was betting, I'd say that Cruz might still be moved.
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Yes, it feels like it could be like this just feels like there's just guys who could probably contribute a little better to this specific team for the Lakers than maybe what Crews can do. I'll tell you what.
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Look, the scoring that Kuzma has provided over the last few games has been tremendous, and that's something that the Lakers have dearly needed off their bench.
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They needed somebody who could put the ball in the basket.
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However, there is a little bit of a conundrum here with Kyle Kuzma because you can see that when you give him more minutes.
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He does well, right? He plays well.
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He if you give him a big role, he tends to thrive in that situation instead of coming in for, say, 20 minutes at night.
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That's where he kind of struggles and you feel him forcing things a little bit like he knows his minutes or short.
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And so he's got to try to make the most of every single one of them.
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And so then he winds up putting up some some ugly shots and just forcing right.
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And now you've got a situation where Cruz was playing so well.
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But Anthony Davis is gonna play the four.
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He's starting there.
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LeBron James is your your nominal three.
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If LeBron and 80 air starting, that means Kyle Kuzma is not.
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There's not really a spot in the starting lineup to put Koosman, so the question for Frank Vogel is gonna be now.
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How do you if you can't start called Koosman and I don't think you can.
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I don't think you can start him at the two or anything like that.
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You can't stop him at the five.
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So if you can't start him, how do you get him enough minutes, then, to at least still have a starter level impact? I think it's gonna be really interesting to see over these next few weeks how Vogel handles that situation.
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Yeah, because, I mean, you're right.
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I mean, I remember the games before when we did have LeBron in a D and especially what? Who's being under the microscope like he has been and you could just see it like he was trying to force his regular amount of shots and says such a shorter period of time, and it just it really didn't work out well for him.
00:06:59
But, you know, this is just the hard won, the hard one to say.
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I mean, I'm sure they're probably upper management is having all the same conversations that we're having at least one we're having right now.
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So I still feel like advisor.
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But, I mean, I know there's gonna be some changes to the teams that I would still lean towards.
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It probably be you know, coups and probably somebody else, because I think they're gonna have to package it because of the money situation.
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You know better than me about that.
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But, you know, that's just where my head's at.
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At this point, Yeah.
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If they are going to trade Koosman, you almost have toe combine them with somebody else.
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But again, this is just in order.
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Logistically make the money where it could make it illegal trade.
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But, uh but again, this is the This is the performance where a lot of fans are gonna be saying. Nope, That's it.
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We're out.
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Do not trade.
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Cale.
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Cosmo, You keep him. This dude just put up 36 points.
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Ah, he was an absolute flamethrower out there.
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You got to keep him.
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Ah, and and look, I can't blame him, you know? Can't blame him if you say, Look, this is what we're gonna do.
00:07:50
This level of play is something that that Kyle Cruise Menken touch consistently enough cause that's been his problem has been consistency.
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If he could do something like this consistently enough with LeBron and 80 on the on the floor, he's not scoring 36 But he scored 2022.
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That's a piece that you probably want to hang on to.
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So again, gonna be interesting to see how the Lakers handle things from here and can call Cosmo.
00:08:11
Follow up this performance with some other good ones to show that he can play well consistently.
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That's the big hurdle for him right now.
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The other guy who had a huge night.
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Huge night, My favorite player.
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Rajon Rondo.
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Huge performance.
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12 boards, eight assists, one steal, 21 points.
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10 of 22 from shooting from the field.
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Even knocked in.
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There's only one of six but knocked in 13 playoff Rondo lives. Chris.
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I don't know what else to say.
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This. Everybody talks about playoff Rondo.
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That's what we saw tonight was the playoff version of Roger Run? No, he's still alive.
00:08:45
Yeah, and I've heard people reference this and we've seen it before.
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But, I mean, maybe this is why an argument could be made to actually keep Rondo, even if we still need a ball handler coming off the bench.
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It's like Rondo has been with the experience he has.
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He's been in so many big moments that this could you know Just having him on the roster can pay dividends come playoff time.
00:09:06
So you know, it's nice to see him, you know, obviously play out Rondo being initiated tonight and he definitely stayed the offense.
00:09:14
It looked like he did a little bit of everything out there.
00:09:16
Whenever Rondo has a good game, I'm always just constantly thinking of you.
00:09:20
For somebody like KCP goes off when we think of and we think of jazz, it's whoever you talk to most trash about.
00:09:28
That's not two people go after.
00:09:30
And you know what? I get it, Uh, and I've always said I don't have I hope Rondo find success I was concerned about is three point shooting and defense.
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And if he could do other things well enough to mitigate that, if he like the ants, enough threes to make it mitigate the defense, no problems with that.
00:09:45
If he can rebound 12 boards tonight, clearly a season.
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So what if he if he can rebound the way he did? If he can control the pace the way he did tonight, then you don't worry so much about the other things.
00:09:56
The question is, can he do those things consistently if the answer is yes, he can do these things that I have zero issues with Rajon Rondo because this was a tremendous game.
00:10:05
And you know what I love Chris is both tonight and last night and last night's game as well, especially at the end of the third quarter.
00:10:12
Rhonda recognized not just what the team needed but with the team needed from him, what he needed to do in order to get the Lakers a win.
00:10:20
When the Lakers Biggs got into foul trouble and LeBron James went out towards the end of the third quarter, what Rondo do, he attacked the basket a couple times in road, got himself to the free throw line.
00:10:29
The Lakers offense had bogged down.
00:10:31
He got some cheap, easy points at the line, and that's not his forte getting to the free throw line.
00:10:35
But he recognized the pace of the game required him to do that, and he did it tonight.
00:10:40
He knew without LeBron without Anthony Davis know Danny Green out there.
00:10:44
Somebody was going to have to set the tone early and he took it upon himself.
00:10:48
To do that, he went out and had a phenomenal first quarter.
00:10:51
He was getting into the paint.
00:10:52
He was slinging passes all over the place. He was scoring.
00:10:55
He was doing everything the team needed him to do.
00:10:57
And that's like you said the benefit of having a veteran on the team who has been in these situations before.
00:11:03
And Chris, I love that you mentioned that.
00:11:05
This doesn't mean that you don't need to go find another ball handler, right? You can still find someone else.
00:11:10
You could pick up a Darren Collison but still have Rondo in your back pocket knowing that he can probably handle big moments like this.
00:11:18
Yeah, and he made a strong argument tonight for his role on the team.
00:11:22
I mean, honestly on it.
00:11:24
Just that thing with Rondo.
00:11:25
I think the best that we can tell, at least from most of this season, is you just can't expect this our regular basis from Rhonda.
00:11:31
You can't expect him to play playing like, you know, if anybody needs the load manager's probably Rondo at this point, you know what I mean.
00:11:37
So, you know, I just I feel like I'm having Rondo on our team could definitely benefit us down the line And so if if you know he's not worked out and I think he has it the back to a no trade clause anyway, So I think we're pretty much we're gonna have Rondo no matter what.
00:11:53
So we might as well get used to it.
00:11:54
I mean, he's going to, you know, have games like this.
00:11:57
I don't think playoff Rhonda was something that just happens once a season.
00:12:02
So we're gonna have situations where LeBron can play like we did tonight and look what Rhonda was able to do.
00:12:07
I think that was an awesome awesome gave me out tonight. Yeah.
00:12:12
I mean, look and we and yeah, you're right.
00:12:14
We have to hope, right that this isn't a one time thing.
00:12:17
This isn't a one off playoff.
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Rondo isn't just just making a one night only cameo appearance, appearance or anything like that.
00:12:22
We have to hope the playoff Rondo shows up in the playoffs.
00:12:26
But he Ah, he obviously appeared tonight.
00:12:28
A few other guys were absolutely phenomenal for the Lakers effect.
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You know it, really, That was the whole team made contributions.
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But Dwight Howard, 14 boards, three assists, two blocks, 12 points.
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He made some nice plays did.
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Did make a few mental errors out there picking a protective file and things like that.
00:12:43
JaVale head up had a ridiculous dunk on Steven Adams.
00:12:47
That was, that was that was just nasty, but six boards.
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I'm sorry.
00:12:52
Seven boards.
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Six points had a block as well.
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So the Lakers Biggs, Dwight, make Howard combined.
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You put you put them together. And again.
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Solid performance from them.
00:13:00
Shot, what? Seven of 14 from the field they picked up combined.
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You've got 21 boards, five assists and three blocks to go along with 18 points.
00:13:11
You'll take that from your center position all day, especially on a night like this when you're missing Anthony Davis, the big stepped up just like the Lakers needed them to do.
00:13:19
Yeah, and, you know, just to kind of, you know, bring this all together.
00:13:23
I'm just loving like this is so great for this to happen for this team right now.
00:13:28
It's never great to have your two top guys to be out, and obviously I know, uh, Lebron's only he's just sick.
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I believe in a d S.
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O.
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Got the, you know, the gluttonous Maximus.
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Bumpy took, but they're gonna be so great.
00:13:41
Hey, heard exactly This is gonna be great for this team because all these guys are gonna like this is gonna build a lot of swagger for these guys, just for them to know that they were able to go out against a good okay, See team.
00:13:53
I mean, again, this is a good team this season, a lot better than anybody expected, but to come out and like when this convincingly.
00:14:00
This is goingto help the overall team, you know, And it's gonna be great for us because we'll know that in the future for this season, for whatever reason, LeBron or a d have the load manager take a rest.
00:14:11
I have a lot more faith just based on watching this game alone, that like, Hey, we might be able to actually rest our guys, especially going into May in June.
00:14:19
I don't know. What do you think? Yeah, I agree.
00:14:21
100%.
00:14:22
This gives them that confidence to know that Hey, even if somebody does go down, they can pull things off.
00:14:26
Now we'll say my my thought process behind this type of situation has always been that teams can handle losing a star for a game for two games sometimes, right? If you lose a star player, the other guys on the team all pick up their games, their sharpness and increases the attention to detail increases.
00:14:44
And you could wind up picking up winds that way.
00:14:47
But over the long haul, that's where you feel losing that star player.
00:14:51
So if LeBron or a D or somebody where it was to go out for a longer stretch, that's where I think these guys, you would start to see the flaws, right, that would that would happen.
00:15:00
But for a one for one night for two nights, like we've seen these last two back to back, they can.
00:15:04
They can step up.
00:15:05
That can happen.
00:15:06
And that's exactly what did happen here.
00:15:08
The Lakers didn't take it as, Oh, we don't have these guys were in trouble.
00:15:11
I guess we're just not gonna win.
00:15:13
They went out and attacked this game, and that's it.
00:15:14
That's a credit to this team for not just rolling over and say, Oh, schedule loss, you know, we'll just we'll just take the El No, they went out there and they did exactly what they needed to do to get the wind and to beat.
00:15:25
Like you said, a good Oklahoma City thunder team.
00:15:28
You know, I see a lot of comments online with people saying, Oh, well, the thunder just bad.
00:15:31
No, the thunder have actually been really good recently.
00:15:34
Uh, the thunder broadcast was talking all about how they actually have a better record than the Lakers like November 15th or something like that.
00:15:41
They picked up some big wins and then, like I said earlier, they got a big win over the Houston Rockets.
00:15:45
So I count this as a major win for the Lakers.
00:15:48
This wasn't a game that they should just walk in there and steamroll this game or anything.
00:15:53
Like like, if it was the Golden State Warriors, you would expect the lakersbench to still get a win, right? But against this Thunder team, I was thinking that for sure the thunder we're gonna walk away with the W and the Lakers were going to say, Well, you know, we didn't have our stars.
00:16:06
But the Lakers, they surprised me.
00:16:08
They shocked me and, ah, gotta be proud of this team of what we've just pulled off Yeah, And you know, I I know exactly what you mean.
00:16:15
It's kind of a fight or flight response.
00:16:17
You lose your two top guys and then everybody just feels that adrenaline of having like, we can do this, we can, you know, Let's band together and let's go up there and show them that we can all ball to, um the only thing that makes this extra special for me is like for the rest of the season.
00:16:33
I don't expect many games where we're gonna have both LeBron and a D down, let alone green.
00:16:38
So to see them, you know, even with that being considered, to see them come out tonight and play this well against OK, see again is just I mean, it's a beautiful thing, because again, like I said, we don't expect to nestle have LeBron in a D out.
00:16:53
So in most situations, you're gonna have these guys and you're gonna have at least one of the three guys who was out, you know, if not, you know, 203 or not, all of them.
00:17:01
So just very encouraging.
00:17:03
Overall, absolutely, absolutely super encouraging.
00:17:06
The bench has been the biggest weakness for the Lakers this season.
00:17:09
So to see them step up in this way has got to give you some confidence.
00:17:13
Moving forward it.
00:17:14
So my dad just hopped into the into the chat.
00:17:16
He said, Coach Vogel has is a great coach.
00:17:20
Had the team ready to go.
00:17:21
What do you think about Vogel tonight? I thought he thought he was tremendous, that the team was just their game plan fit exactly.
00:17:28
The personnel that they had out there on the floor.
00:17:31
Oh, yeah.
00:17:32
And he's really having the earnest money now, at least over the last couple of games games.
00:17:36
I mean, you can't just dump it to a D, right? So, you know, there it looked like there was a lot more plays called, and it was very fluent, at least with the options.
00:17:43
I seemed to me like they got a lot out in transition, and, uh, you know, everybody was just like everybody was contributing and doing well tonight from, you know, like, pretty much everybody I can't think of.
00:17:55
I mean, even Quinn cook, you know, like we saw Quinn cook and hit a couple shots tonight.
00:17:59
So, uh, you know, is just a good day overall for everybody And Frank Global.
00:18:04
Just that we can't exclude him.
00:18:06
Obviously has just been a tremendous coach.
00:18:08
And, you know, he just installed more confidence in us and games like this where you don't have both guys and, you know, you're able to scheme.
00:18:15
And your again coming from a situation where we were in last year with Luke Waldon where he won't make any adjustments, he would just stick to whatever.
00:18:22
And he he had scripted and to have a guy called things on the Fly.
00:18:26
I mean, you know, I'm sure you appreciate that, too.
00:18:28
I just appreciate somebody who can watch the game in live time and make a judgment call or call something on the fly that he didn't anticipate before the game.
00:18:38
Yeah, Yeah, I agree.
00:18:39
100% he was able to adjust on the fly.
00:18:41
I liked how aggressive they were.
00:18:43
They were out there shooting threes.
00:18:44
Quinn Cook, Troy Daniels.
00:18:45
We're gonna It was like Quinn cook in Troy Daniels were unleashed.
00:18:48
They like finally, we're getting playing time, and they started taking shots.
00:18:51
There were a few times where I went.
00:18:52
Oh, that was kind of quick on the trigger, and they knocked him down.
00:18:55
Quinn Cook five of 10 shooting two of four from 3 13 points, three assists, his best game in months.
00:19:01
Clearly, a lot of that is because he hasn't been playing, but he had a solid performance.
00:19:05
Troy Daniels.
00:19:06
Two of six from deep six boards, 12 points.
00:19:09
He had a nice one, too.
00:19:10
Look, these guys stepped in and contributed.
00:19:11
Everybody, everybody, everyone did something tonight, Jared Dudley said.
00:19:16
A bone crushing screen on Dennis shooter.
00:19:18
I mean, it was It was like he must have stolen something out of your playbook, Chris, because he he'd absolutely leveled sugar.
00:19:25
It was It was an incredible performance from from him as well meets a nice defensive stops even though if you look at the statue doesn't look like he did much.
00:19:32
He was good.
00:19:33
They all stepped up.
00:19:34
And I guess that's that's the big takeaway here, right? Every single person on that team that made it on the floor.
00:19:40
They did their share and then some tonight.
00:19:43
Yeah, I gotta say travel.
00:19:45
I'm a big fan of those brick wall screens.
00:19:47
I mean, physical, brutal.
00:19:50
I love setting him on to Kay and just watching guys get knocked right down to the O.
00:19:54
I mean, it just cracks me up, but hey, well, what was sweeter tonight? Been seeing Alex Caruso going three for four from three point range.
00:20:01
I mean, I know we love his dunks, but to see that kind of sweet little shot just go win like that.
00:20:06
That was something special, wasn't it? Yeah.
00:20:08
So the Alex Caruso revenge game, he actually started in the GI League with the Oklahoma City blue, which is the Thunders G League team.
00:20:15
He started with them, then he jumped over to the Lakers.
00:20:18
Julie team and our summer league team earned a spot earlier to a contract from there.
00:20:22
And then it's worked his way up.
00:20:23
And now Alex Crusoe's hit Minutes against the Thunder.
00:20:26
Which is pretty cool to see, um, and is in the All Star game.
00:20:30
Or at least hopefully, yes.
00:20:32
Yeah, hopefully, let's keep let's keep voting.
00:20:34
Keep voting.
00:20:35
Lakers fans keep him in that.
00:20:36
Get it, Get him in that all star game.
00:20:38
Let's see how how we can do with that one there.
00:20:41
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00:22:19
All right, let's talk a little bit about Well, let's get into this one first from Facebook.
00:22:24
Carnell.
00:22:25
Michelle Johnson said Trevor, please talk about how well the Lakers air starting to shoot the three.
00:22:30
So what did you think about that tonight? Chris, You know the Lakers were and not just shooting the threes, but confidently shoot in.
00:22:36
They were seeking them out.
00:22:37
15 and 32 on the night.
00:22:39
47%.
00:22:41
Uh, impressive stuff.
00:22:43
What are your thoughts on what that means for the Lakers and their long term game? Well, it gives me a lot of relief.
00:22:49
I mean, we haven't seen them do this on many consecutive games this season.
00:22:53
I don't know if this might be.
00:22:55
I hope it's the highest percentage they've shot all season, but it's probably definitely up there.
00:23:00
But it still doesn't make me think that we have some kind of like running gun kind of Golden State Warriors three point shooting team or anything like that, right? It does.
00:23:09
It is just nice to see, because I can remember coming on the show just a couple months ago, and it was kind of talking a lot about how this is such a two point shooting team in terms of getting to the basket and not enough guys who are consistent.
00:23:22
Three.
00:23:23
So it's just it's nice to see, especially for a lot of these guys who had that step up tonight for them.
00:23:28
Thio go out there and shoot this way, you know, from beyond the arc.
00:23:32
And also, you know, just we We need them to have these type of games in order to boost their confidence anyway, going throughout the season.
00:23:40
So, you know, again, just going back to being having LeBron in a D down and having them shoot this well from beyond the yard can just play this.
00:23:48
Well, uh, you know, this has just been definitely.
00:23:52
Ah, big win for us tonight.
00:23:54
Yeah.
00:23:55
Look, it's been Ah, it was a big one and a big for their confidence.
00:23:57
Like you said, for, um, for going out there and Ah, and being able to knock down those shots right.
00:24:03
You haven't been able to hit those shots for most of the season.
00:24:06
Lakers three point shooting has been great.
00:24:08
So, too not only, um, not only hit him, but hit him in a game where LeBron and a d r out.
00:24:16
Some of the comments are coming in Chase Arena, not Oracle. Yeah.
00:24:19
Sorry. Guys away. Back to last season. Chase Arena.
00:24:21
That's the new one. My fault.
00:24:23
That's where we're going for Gold State.
00:24:24
But anyway, uh, look, knocking down those shots in a game where LeBron and 80 are out and you really need them. Wait.
00:24:31
You really needed those threes for the Lakers.
00:24:33
I thought that was important to their ability to knock him out.
00:24:35
Knock him down like that.
00:24:37
James, Tom James Tames said Trevor, should Cosmo start.
00:24:42
I don't know, Chris.
00:24:43
Like, how do you get Kyle Kuzma into the starting lineup if you're committed to LeBron and a D, which you should be.
00:24:50
But how do you get in? How do you get Kuzma in there or or do you just continue bring him off the bench? I'm kind of more on your side with this.
00:24:58
I feel like positionally.
00:25:00
There's no place to put him, especially if you're starting July or make out if you're starting any one of them.
00:25:09
So you have your center right and then you're gonna have LeBron played.
00:25:13
Four.
00:25:14
It's because you're not gonna have coos guard the two right? Like who's can only really guard the three and like toe have them.
00:25:22
I just I don't know positionally with LeBron if you're gonna have LeBron and 80 out there along with another center.
00:25:27
I don't know where crews fits in that.
00:25:29
Like maybe there's a way to argue for him if you're running, as you know, small ball with or with a D at the centre.
00:25:35
But I'd like to see what you say about this.
00:25:39
Yeah, I see that.
00:25:40
That's my That's my hold upright, like in orderto have Koosman on the floor with both LeBron and a D.
00:25:46
That means a D has to be the center, and he doesn't want to spend most of his minutes at center.
00:25:50
And I think Dwight make.
00:25:52
Howard has done a good enough job at the five that you need to have minutes, therefore for them.
00:25:57
And you need to have minutes with a D at the four because it's a little bit less physically demanding on him.
00:26:02
He doesn't take quite as much punishment.
00:26:04
So how do you get Cosmo enough minutes? It's going to be a real challenge.
00:26:08
S o.
00:26:09
I don't I'd say no, you don't start Kuzma, but he's deserving of it, right? Like he's deserving off a starting spot.
00:26:16
There just isn't one for him, but I I imagine that's got to be frustrating for him, right? Yeah, yeah, I think you just made an argument actually, for it.
00:26:23
So let's there's not.
00:26:25
It's not gonna be every game this season.
00:26:27
I definitely probably about the playoffs where we're gonna need either Dwight or JAVALE.
00:26:32
We're not gonna need them for the most game.
00:26:34
Most likely depending on the PC on the match ups and what not? But you know, you could if you're doing Ah, if you know we're not running our centers over running a decent center.
00:26:44
I guess you could possibly do a lineup that started like Avery Bradley at the point.
00:26:49
Um, who was I gonna have to Oh, that's the problem.
00:26:54
Well, that that is the problem right there.
00:26:55
Is it? If you're going to and a bunch of people are jumping in right now saying, Well, clearly, bench Danny Green and you put Kuzma in.
00:27:03
That means Koosman is You're too.
00:27:05
If you do that on offense, you can get on offense.
00:27:09
You could do that.
00:27:10
You can get away with that on offense.
00:27:11
Way we have LeBron it before we have a d at the five.
00:27:15
And then we would, but running who's at the three? Yeah, if you were okay.
00:27:21
So if you were to take one of the one of the centers off the floor Yeah, you could run.
00:27:25
You could run.
00:27:26
That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yes.
00:27:28
If we run a d it center, LeBron it before we run, who's at the three? And then it's like it would be a very Brad Avery Bradley at the point.
00:27:36
And then I guess Green at the shooting guard.
00:27:38
I mean, that could be something that works out for us down the line.
00:27:42
Yeah, yeah, that's something that could work.
00:27:44
But somebody threw up here from Facebook, William Alysia said.
00:27:49
Guys, if he doesn't start, he isn't going to want to be on the team.
00:27:52
That's the problem.
00:27:54
Look, and that's that's what I'm saying.
00:27:55
Like Look, if you can't find a starting role for Cruz, but does he eventually want to go somewhere else? And do you kind of had that off? I may be looking to trade market all things that the police have to consider not saying that you trade Cale Kozma.
00:28:06
I'm just saying there is it.
00:28:08
Look, it's a great problem.
00:28:09
The half right.
00:28:10
You've got a guy who needs minutes who could do good things for your team, and you've got so many good players in front of him that you can't find minutes.
00:28:16
That's a great, great problem for the Lakers to have.
00:28:19
But it's still a problem.
00:28:20
It's still something that they're going to have to figure out.
00:28:23
Can you get away with Cruz? Met the two, maybe on some nights.
00:28:27
But if you've got, like, a C J McCollum or something there that you're going up against, that's you're not gonna get away with Koosman chasing CJ McCollum.
00:28:35
That's not gonna work.
00:28:37
Um, you maybe you convince a D to play the five MB or some games.
00:28:42
And so that way Koosman can get more minutes in there.
00:28:44
Maybe you could do that, but But regardless, Frank Vogel is gonna have to try to figure that out.
00:28:49
That's gonna be a big question.
00:28:50
Moving forward.
00:28:51
Um, Anthony Nazi says Koosman needs to play starter's minutes off the bench like Lou will.
00:28:56
I agree with you.
00:28:57
I agree with that, and I think you can go that route.
00:29:00
The question is still how do you get him enough minutes? I want to see 30 plus minutes a night for Kyle Kuzma, and it's gonna be a little bit difficult doing that.
00:29:08
That's gonna be kind of tough to do.
00:29:10
Um, let's see what else we've got here.
00:29:13
A lot of people are saying Koosman needs to start seeing a ton of that.
00:29:17
People are digging Kyle Kuzma and with good reason book.
00:29:20
But it's just it's just like you said.
00:29:21
I think we're all so quick to react game basis.
00:29:25
I mean, it's just like you said.
00:29:26
Of course, everybody's gonna go crazy about the game cruises having, But again, I mean, we haven't It's not like we've seen a ton of this this season.
00:29:34
And there might just be a big problem, because if we can't get cooze all the minutes he needs and he doesn't have the production yet tonight because of that, you know, that would be an argument for the trade.
00:29:44
Yeah. Yep.
00:29:45
Very, very true.
00:29:46
Very true.
00:29:47
It if he can't be able to produce on a consistent basis.
00:29:50
Ah, here's the lineup that that somebody threw out Kevin Kenneth Higa Rada from Facebook, said Bradley Kuzma LeBron a D. McGee.
00:29:59
That's their their lineup.
00:30:00
So they're taking out Danny Green using Cruise.
00:30:02
But the two I don't know, I don't know if you get away with it.
00:30:06
I don't know about him getting guarding those guys.
00:30:09
I feel like he's gonna get burned defensively.
00:30:11
Like I feel like, Right.
00:30:12
Like, I feel like the only matchup he can really handle adequately is the three of the four.
00:30:19
Yeah, that just depends on who it is.
00:30:21
He's still young.
00:30:22
I just I don't feel like coups as much strength, you know, like, if you actually worked on its strength, it would probably help out a lot, I think.
00:30:29
Well, we needed a touch with you then.
00:30:30
Chris, you need to get on training from a program with it with you on battle.
00:30:37
Uh, that'll help him out.
00:30:39
Except then, you know, I know at some point some random point in the game, we would get a bulked up verge of cow Koosman.
00:30:45
He'd slap a master lock on somebody, and then we don't look at you.
00:30:48
That's why that would be awesome.
00:30:52
Uh, let's see.
00:30:53
Here. Let me dive into a few more of these.
00:30:55
These comments.
00:30:56
Ah, a lot of people talking about Quinn cook I've got from YouTube.
00:30:59
Cook played well, 13 points.
00:31:01
Quinn Cook had a great night.
00:31:04
Quinn, Cook, lingering Look great from Larry.
00:31:06
Show be from YouTube.
00:31:08
Thelma Oh, said Quinn.
00:31:09
Cook needs more minutes.
00:31:11
Where do you Where do you go from here? Did Quinn Cook play well enough to where you say, Okay, let's give him a shot next game, game After that, let's start to try to find some minutes for him.
00:31:21
Oh, that's tough to say.
00:31:23
I don't want to be mean or anything on this because, you know, I just I don't like to come off like that, but, I mean, we haven't I'm glad that we got some output from them tonight, but again, it's just we haven't seen enough of it to start praising him.
00:31:35
I mean, he was to perform tonight.
00:31:37
I mean, he did.
00:31:39
He did? Well, it's certain points, but again, I don't think we should start singing his praises yet.
00:31:44
We just we need more consistency out of guys like that.
00:31:47
And, you know, it's not that we should never expect them to come up in some former passion for the team.
00:31:53
You know, I would expect a quick toe, have a good game eventually, you know, But, uh, it's not making me think any different that's been cooked.
00:32:01
I mean, he could easily be part of the package, if that's even possible.
00:32:05
If I were running team, Yeah, look, I mean, if if a train comes up and there's something that makes a ton of sense and Rob Blake is looking at it and think this makes us more likely to win a championship and Quinn Cook is part of it, I don't think you hesitate, right? I don't think you I don't think he's like your answer at this point or anything, But I thought this was a positive performance and it's worth giving him another look.
00:32:28
And if he if he compounds this, if he plays well in another game in another game, out for that, maybe he starts to eat into some some solid minutes.
00:32:35
But for right now, I think you just have to look at this as a one game thing.
00:32:38
Great game for him and perfect timing and see where it goes from here.
00:32:42
I don't think we can make a definitive statement like, Oh Quinn, Cook should definitely be part of the rotation moving forward.
00:32:48
Let's see where it goes from from here to figure that out.
00:32:51
Hey, Trevor, I got a quick question for you just real quick So let me ask you this.
00:32:55
We know that LeBron and a d r not apart.
00:32:58
They're not part of any trade or anything like that.
00:33:00
They're untouchable, right? So I got a question for you.
00:33:03
And, you know, I got a question.
00:33:04
Probably cause nation.
00:33:05
So if we're taking LeBron in a d out of the package, what one Laker outside of those two guys, would you deem untradeable if any, or at least the closest thing to that? So if you had to take anybody else off the table and say that this player is is not tradable for you, that is a tough question.
00:33:22
That's a great question.
00:33:24
That's really a great question on.
00:33:25
And I'm assuming, Are we excluding the guys with the ability to veto a trade? So you're kcp Rondo javale? You know, I'm just I'm just saying whoever is there one guy that you value more so than any other guy in terms of this play or just in terms of whatever it is outside of LeBron and a D, I mean, I don't even have an answer for it.
00:33:44
Honestly, I mean, I'm going to come up, come off as biased when I say this, but I look at that when you look at the defensive numbers and the impact he has, when when LeBron is on the floor and knowing that Cosmo is the piece that probably gets you the most in return knowing that you're probably not gonna get equal value for this pretty clear player, I'm gonna say Alex Caruso and I know people are gonna be rolling their eyes and everything.
00:34:06
But I I know like we've been pumping up Alex Caruso forever is part of a team and all of that.
00:34:12
But But you look at what he's been doing.
00:34:14
I don't think you get anyone.
00:34:17
I don't think there's any way to put him in a trade where you get back what he gives the leg like it's like you could trade and get back equal value.
00:34:25
You could find a piece that would that would provide something.
00:34:27
But I don't think other teams see Crusoe the way the Lakers seem, and so that's why I'm going there.
00:34:31
Not that I'm saying Caruso is is like the M v p.
00:34:34
He's the superstar.
00:34:35
He's the guy they want to build around.
00:34:37
No, I'm not saying that I'm just saying it will be hard to get the right kind of value to trade him.
00:34:40
So I'd take Chris and it lit the chat room, agrees with me guys, the chat room agrees.
00:34:45
I'm getting all these comments on here saying Alex got so so. I love it.
00:34:50
I love it.
00:34:51
And some even Dwight Howard takes.
00:34:52
Who would have guessed that earlier in the season, just one that I just wanted to hear you and everybody else just say Alex Caruso is untradeable.
00:35:01
That's what you were gonna isolate that sound clip? Great, that's gonna follow.
00:35:05
It's gonna follow me forever.
00:35:06
Hey, you know what? Look, anything can happen, right? And in the n B A, you never know what's gonna happen.
00:35:11
A depleted Lakers team just beat up on the Oklahoma City thunder.
00:35:15
The Tennessee Titans are beating up on the boat.
00:35:17
Baltimore Ravens right now, like crazy things happen in the world of sports.
00:35:21
It's the way it goes. Expect the unexpected.
00:35:23
So who knows what the Lakers gonna do on the trade market? But yeah, great question.
00:35:28
I'm gonna go with Alex Caruso, and it seems like people agree with me on this one.
00:35:32
for right now.
00:35:33
You know, Tripp, I won't say that.
00:35:34
I don't mind the Dwight Howard response, either.
00:35:38
Not say that he has the most value to is from his game standpoint to the team.
00:35:43
But I just I love the story of Dwight and how he's changed his whole career around has become such a team first guy, and it's just been such a great story of retribution that the fan and me would not want to see him get traded.
00:35:55
Let's put it that way.
00:35:56
Yeah, agreed.
00:35:57
That's and that's it, too.
00:35:58
Yeah, you wouldn't want to see that happen.
00:36:00
I don't think that's going to happen.
00:36:01
I think the Lakers are pretty set, which a veil and Dwight Howard like It would have to be.
00:36:05
Hey, that Utah suddenly loses their minds and say, Hey, do you guys want Rudy? Go bear right? It would have to be something like that for you to see White or JaVale out at this point.
00:36:14
I don't think that's I don't think that's going to happen.
00:36:16
I'm I've got a few people in the chat talking about what's going on right now in Cleveland.
00:36:21
Uh, the Cavs, actually, we're actually It's in Denver's.
00:36:24
The Calves right now are beating the Denver Nuggets.
00:36:26
So it becomes an even better night.
00:36:28
They're only up to the O.
00:36:30
I think Denver is gonna come back seven minutes and 45 seconds left in the fourth.
00:36:33
But that's something we will we will keep an eye on unless I need to refresh here.
00:36:37
Am I missing something on the score? No, that's still the score.
00:36:41
Seven minutes, 45 seconds left.
00:36:43
90 to 88.
00:36:44
Right now.
00:36:45
Cleveland over Denver.
00:36:46
Obviously, the Lakers would like it.
00:36:47
They would give them a little bit more breathing room if the Cavs were able to pull off the wind.
00:36:51
So it's something we can keep on eye on.
00:36:53
We've got Mel a John Doe from Facebook. Trevor and Chris.
00:36:56
Can we send Danny Green as the sixth man are off the bench? That Cosmo will be in the starting lineup.
00:37:01
So let's forget about whether or not Cruz McCann play the two.
00:37:05
Are you at the point now where you're okay with perhaps sending Danny Green to the bench and putting someone else in his place? Oh, I don't know why? Why would we even go there? saying that Danny Green, just because of his production and somebody else has stepped up above him.
00:37:22
Yeah, I think that's what it is.
00:37:23
I think that, um I think that a lot of people are looking at it, and here's the thing.
00:37:27
A lot of people are looking at the salary and they're saying Danny Greene's not worth 15 million and so that's creating uneven, bigger kind of backlash against Green.
00:37:35
But, yeah, the people are looking at the production and saying he's not producing.
00:37:39
He's not producing relative to his contract.
00:37:41
Should he be sent to the bench? I don't know if I'm ready to go there.
00:37:45
At this point.
00:37:46
I still think he can make some big plays for you.
00:37:48
I think he's better than what we've seen so far, and the best is yet to come.
00:37:52
But what's your take? Chris, what do you think about about perhaps moving him to the bench of making a six man and bringing in whoever I mean Caruso, Jared Dudley just to set mean screens, I don't know whoever you're gonna bring up, just the idea of moving him to that bench unit.
00:38:06
KCP could be KCBS.
00:38:08
Probably answer there.
00:38:10
Yeah, well, that's what I was gonna ask you.
00:38:11
You're, like, so K c p.
00:38:13
I mean, I could see that, I guess I think more with Danny Green.
00:38:18
I kind of interest in Frank Vogel that maybe if he sees Danny Green doesn't happen on a given night, that he's not gonna just keep pushing them or whatever.
00:38:25
And he might make the call.
00:38:26
Thio just put him on the bench and put KCP And But I'm not in any place where I'm I'm like you.
00:38:32
My mother need place.
00:38:33
Why want to definitively say, Oh, Danny Green should be on the bench.
00:38:37
I understand the argument for being a six man because he can definitely light it up.
00:38:41
But I'm just I'm not completely sure what his best role is and again with the team with having the record it has that's been with Dan agreement to start line up.
00:38:50
So I don't know how much we want to tinker with this wallet we're doing as well as we are.
00:38:55
We get to a point where we're losing a lot and we can't figure it out of what's going on.
00:38:59
Then, you know, maybe we start making these slight little changes and what not? But I think it's a really big issue for us at this time.
00:39:07
Yeah, that's a great point there, Chris.
00:39:08
You don't tinker too much because things were going well, you know, there have been a lot of people have brought up over the course of the season that objectively, Dwight Howard has been better than JaVale McGee.
00:39:18
They both produce.
00:39:19
They've both done good things.
00:39:20
But Dwight has probably been a little bit better than jail over the course of the season.
00:39:24
Okay, but javale is starting.
00:39:27
A lot of people look at that starting job as okay, if you're starting, that sends the message that you're the best player.
00:39:32
But that's not always the case.
00:39:33
You know, you look at guys like Manu Ginobili.
00:39:35
He didn't start for large chunks of his career, came off the bench. Lou Williams.
00:39:39
These guys were talented enough to be starters, but they're not because they're team needs them coming off the bench, and that's working out better right now.
00:39:46
The Lakers is clearly working.
00:39:48
They've won eight in a row.
00:39:49
They've won their first place in the Western Conference.
00:39:52
They're up by what four and 1/2 games, five games now on the next closest team.
00:39:57
Things were going well.
00:39:58
Now is the time to start messing around with Lina Patan.
00:40:01
If you don't have to.
00:40:02
Okay, I get the idea, and that's and that's an argument to for why you keep Danny Green in the starting five, right? You keep the rotation and you keep going with what's been working.
00:40:10
There's no reason to tinker with things too much when things were going as well as they have been for the Lakers.
00:40:16
Yeah, like you said, Dwight Howard usually finishes anyway, and I understand the argument started, and maybe they would probably be ideal, your best line up to have Dwight Howard in the starting lineup, but again to go to other things.
00:40:28
Like you said before, you don't want to mess with the team continuity.
00:40:30
I mean, JaVale McGee is obviously very comfortable in the starting position and Dwight Howard, I just came here this season, so it just you don't create any issues in the locker room.
00:40:40
Everybody stays.
00:40:41
You know, we can keep our unit together and everybody on the same page.
00:40:46
Some people in the chatter are charming in saying, it doesn't matter. It's Dwight.
00:40:50
Make Howard. It's the same guy no matter what.
00:40:52
You d'oh interchangeable anyway, right? She's always been a coward, and this is This is a thing.
00:40:57
Uh, let's see here.
00:40:59
We're going to get into one or two more, and then, well, then we'll call it.
00:41:03
So, uh, that would just went by.
00:41:07
OK? So Daniel Jansen, side from Facebook, said, I think Kyle's not used to coming off the bench.
00:41:11
I love are starting unit.
00:41:13
Cosmo just needs to adjust to being off the bench with Starter's Minutes.
00:41:18
Is that an adjustment? Chris is that hard to be able to produce Coming off the bench when you're used to a starting role like like in in your line of work as a professional wrestler isn't an adjustment to go from being, say the headliner to, then maybe take a step back.
00:41:35
Maybe you're contending for the intercontinental championship or something instead of going for the heavyweight title.
00:41:39
Is that Is there a correlation there where it's a little bit different and how you prepare knowing that you're going to go on in a different time, You're gonna be asked to do different things the match is gonna be a different length.
00:41:49
Is that similar at all to coming off the bench in basketball, Right. Just reaching here.
00:41:55
Ah, I don't know it.
00:41:57
See, the thing is, is I think it is an adjustment, especially when you're coming from being a starter and you're going to the bench with a lot of guys.
00:42:05
They're not gonna react so favorably to that.
00:42:07
Like in professional wrestling.
00:42:08
Yeah, you went from one day.
00:42:10
You're like a pay per view.
00:42:12
You're working for the world heavyweight championship.
00:42:15
You know, whatever happens, happens in the next day you show up the television, and all of a sudden you're, you know, opening the car door, you're in a throwaway match.
00:42:23
I mean, that's gonna give you, you know, that's obviously a huge red flag for any athlete.
00:42:28
So, you know, it's I think it's a case by case basis.
00:42:31
I think what cooze.
00:42:33
You know, you would hope it could be one of those things that where he gets a chip on the shoulder and Alps motivation to play well, But, you know, I think some guys just don't bear with it like again, like I feel like it like we put Javale McGee in a situation where he's coming off the bench, that might really, mentally mess him up.
00:42:50
So I feel like it's really a case by case basis for each individual person about how they adjust.
00:42:56
I mean, you saw how and you look at a guy like move Williams with Lou Williams, I believe was a starter first, and then he kind of transition into that role is a six man, and now he embraces it, loves it, and I agree that he's not even really a six man.
00:43:08
He's really like a starter with the amount of minutes he plays.
00:43:11
But, you know, it really is.
00:43:12
It just depends on the individual.
00:43:14
Yeah, under with you, it's the minutes. It's not.
00:43:17
It's not whether or not you you start, that's Dad's to me.
00:43:19
The important part, and that's where Koosman needs to.
00:43:21
It needs to get more, but it can be an adjustment.
00:43:23
I think the people that are commenting on that are on the money on that.
00:43:27
It's not easy sometimes to adjust to coming off the bench of rhythm gets thrown off and ah, all of that, uh, let's see what's find one Maur here before we before we call it a show.
00:43:40
Um, I've got people asking for an update on DeMarcus cousins.
00:43:44
That's Jonathan Pain on YouTube.
00:43:45
There is no update right now.
00:43:46
We're still just hoping he comes back, but again, not expecting a lot out of him.
00:43:51
Uh, let's see.
00:43:55
We find one Maur good one that I like here that we can dig into.
00:44:06
Okay, so here's the thing.
00:44:08
Here's one that I don't want to get into it.
00:44:10
I'm seeing a lot of stuff here about Kuzma and people complaining that Cooze Bill would want to start.
00:44:14
Ian Fort from YouTube, says Koosman needs to play basketball.
00:44:17
Do you want to play a role for a championship or be the man on a 20 win team? I don't think it's a simple as that, like from a fan perspective.
00:44:28
You look at the situation Cale Cosmas, and you think he just must be in basketball heaven, right? This has to be the ideal situation.
00:44:34
You're playing with two all time greats and LeBron James and Anthony Davis.
00:44:38
You're playing for the Lakers, a historically great organization.
00:44:41
You've got the sunshine that whether all that kind of stuff.
00:44:44
You're getting sponsorship deals and you've got a chance to win an N B A championship.
00:44:49
What could be better than that? Right.
00:44:50
But I think people need to remember that Kyle Kuzma is still on his rookie deal and how much he makes on his next deal is going to be determined by what he produces.
00:45:00
And if he's only getting 20 minutes a night, it's hard to come out on the floor and produce at the level you need to to get a big contract.
00:45:06
I mean, he looks look at the landscape around him.
00:45:08
He looks at Brandon Ingram, who is probably getting a Max deal now, based on how well he's played for the new in the New Orleans Pelicans.
00:45:15
You look at Jalen Brown, who just got a big extension.
00:45:18
His peers have found ways to cash in, and Cosmo hasn't done that yet.
00:45:22
And so if you're him, you have to be thinking about that, too.
00:45:25
And look, you could say it shouldn't be about the money, but we're talking about generational wealth here, potentially.
00:45:30
You're talking about the ability to go when Thio to go play and win and get hundreds of millions of dollars potentially so.
00:45:38
Cosmo's got a look at that, too.
00:45:40
That's got to be a consideration.
00:45:41
This isn't just Oh, you know he doesn't want to be on the bench, and he hasn't made any comments like that or anything, so we can assume that.
00:45:47
But that's part of his situation, where you have to factor that in the fact that he has to play.
00:45:53
Not just for winning right now, not just to be on the Lakers and do all of these things.
00:45:57
He needs to play to make sure that he can can stick in this league.
00:46:00
And he can hit the levels individually that he needs to for his next contract's all right and no, that's may be uncomfortable for people to hear, but that's reality for Kyle Cruise.
00:46:10
May has to consider his own career in his own future as well as what's gonna be best for the team, right? Yeah, I think that's a really good point travel.
00:46:18
I mean, he's not just thinking about the collective team win.
00:46:22
He has to think about his individual performance every night in order to get that kind of offer.
00:46:27
Like, yeah, he sees his peers that you're talking about and they're getting these opportunities to really shine.
00:46:32
So what, You know, you can kind of understand that, you know, he needs to, you know, he needs to think of those things.
00:46:37
It wouldn't be an intelligent businessman business man, to be out there playing basketball and not think about What is it I do I need to do to individually showcase myself to show my value to the weak and what I can do.
00:46:49
So I'm sure he's really thrilled about having a game like tonight, where you can really have a chance to step up in the eighties absence and put up this many points cause at its peak form.
00:46:57
Yeah, absolutely.
00:46:58
And we talked about when 81st got hurt.
00:47:01
Kyle Kuzma will have the opportunity to shine and credit to him two games in a row.
00:47:06
Now he has done just that.
00:47:07
He has taken advantage of his opportunity.
00:47:10
That isn't always true, right? Some guys get the chance and they and they just they don't you know Instead, they just come up short caboose move did not do that.
00:47:20
He has definitely showed everybody what he can do in these last two games.
00:47:25
That grid.
00:47:26
All right, guys.
00:47:27
So let's, uh let's call it their great show.
00:47:31
Appreciate all the questions coming in from YouTube.
00:47:33
From periscope from Facebook.
00:47:35
Thank you guys for joining us again after a great great Lakers win against the Oakland City Thunder.
00:47:41
Chris, thank you so much for coming on and joining me.
00:47:43
I know you've had a busy Ah, busy couple of days.
00:47:46
You are.
00:47:47
You are recalling last night and all that.
00:47:49
Oh, I know where you're gonna go. Good.
00:47:51
Say what you're gonna say.
00:47:52
Well, we know. Okay.
00:47:54
So we know that I didn't make it on the show because I had a wrestling show to go to brother.
00:47:59
Did you end up everything? Why Jazz? No, I did not.
00:48:02
So everybody was asking me last night after last night's show.
00:48:06
Where's Chris and wears jazz.
00:48:07
Where are these guys? I said, Chris is is wrestling.
00:48:09
He's doing a show, I think I said he's probably got some fool in a master lock right now at this moment and retracted in which he did.
00:48:17
And Jazz is has some family, and so he's spending a family in town, and so he's spending time with family, but I didn't reveal exactly where jazz was spending time with family.
00:48:30
Oh, I think we're gonna blow up all of Lakers Nation.
00:48:32
If we say it, I think you're going to say it.
00:48:37
Jazz was at a Clippers game.
00:48:38
Jazz jazz went to Italy.
00:48:40
I didn't even know it.
00:48:41
Jazz went to a Clippers game and it was a game that the Clippers won.
00:48:46
I Yeah, I'm disappointed.
00:48:49
We're gonna have to.
00:48:50
We're gonna have to get on justice case next time He's on here, which I love the way I love the way he just casually told us via text message.
00:48:57
Oh, yeah, I met the Clipper game.
00:48:59
But I rationalize it like this driver.
00:49:00
This is the only way I could come to grips with jazz being a Clipper game.
00:49:04
His jazz was there just to scout the competition.
00:49:07
He was looking out for the Lakers greater good and served up going to the game and seeing how well we will actually match up with the Clippers and he just had to go there to see it. That's the only conclusion.
00:49:18
You remember his excuse? His excuse was well, my family really wanted to go Oh, I don't know.
00:49:26
Come on, Jazz.
00:49:27
Come on, Jazz.
00:49:28
There's there's There's family When these family, nobody's family wants to go to a Clipper.
00:49:33
No, nobody's probably wants to go to a Clipper game.
00:49:36
Come on, May.
00:49:37
And if And if that's your friend, that's your responsibility to set your family straights and we'll go to a Clippers game.
00:49:43
Come on, anyway.
00:49:45
We'll have to.
00:49:46
We'll have to have a nice little chat with jazz next time.
00:49:48
He's He's on here.
00:49:49
By the way, guys, since we since we extended this a little bit, the calves right now are up 107 to 101 over Denver.
00:49:56
They have increased the lead and there's only 42 seconds left.
00:49:59
Come on, Cleveland.
00:50:00
Hang in there.
00:50:01
I think that's a good spot to leave off.
00:50:02
Will leave some suspense.
00:50:04
Now people are saying trade, Jess, we've got a trade block.
00:50:11
All right? That's what you get for missing a show.
00:50:14
Jazz.
00:50:16
All right, man.
00:50:17
Chris again, thank you so much for joining me.
00:50:20
I really appreciate it that thanks for having me looking forward to Ah, the next.
00:50:25
What's our next match up, Mayor? Next matchup.
00:50:27
I've got that That pulled up rage.
00:50:30
I did have it pulled up.
00:50:33
Let's see.
00:50:34
Next up for the Lakers. Oh, they have those same cavaliers.
00:50:36
And that is coming up on will be Monday.
00:50:40
Yep. 13.
00:50:41
So that'll be on Monday.
00:50:42
So you got the cab's on Monday? Should be a good one. Especially.
00:50:45
The cabs can now take out the more trade pass comments.
00:50:49
If the if the calves can now take out the guy gets a Hey, calves air up now.
00:50:53
1092101 Love it. Love it.
00:50:56
Give the Lakers some breathing room. Great job, Cleveland.
00:50:59
All right, guys, make sure you go.
00:51:00
Follow makes you go.
00:51:02
Follow Chris Masters on social media.
00:51:05
Find him at Chris Adonis on Twitter at Chris Masters 310 on instagram.
00:51:11
Given a follow their does some great things.
00:51:14
They're both in the pro wrestling world and commenting on the Lakers.
00:51:17
Guys appreciate anybody who joined us.
00:51:19
Make sure you join us next time we're gonna be coming live after the Lakers take on the Cleveland Cavaliers.
00:51:25
Should be a fun one.
00:51:26
And don't forget to go check out that Frank Asian trip.
00:51:28
Gonna be a blast again.
00:51:30
Bang cation dot com and then you throw in that that slash and it's Lakers Dash V s Dash Warriors.
00:51:39
Go check it out.
00:51:40
It's gonna be a blast.
00:51:41
Can't wait. All right, guys, Thanks so much.
00:51:43
Want to follow me on social media? You can find me at Trevor.
00:51:45
Underscore Lane on Twitter at Trevor Lane N b A on instagram till next time.
00:51:52
I'm kidding.
00:51:53
One last look at the cab score CIA.
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Lakers Defeat Thunder

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Trevor Lane @LakersNation

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00:00:01
Hello Lakers nation.
00:00:02
Welcome in my name's Trevor Lane, and this is the Lakers Nation postgame show.
00:00:07
And my goodness, do we have a show tonight? The Lakers just pulled off a phenomenal winner and unexpected win 1 25 to 1 10 They dominated the Oklahoma City thunder despite not having LeBron James, Anthony Davis or Danny Green three starters out of action for the Lakers.
00:00:24
And everyone stepped up the entire team, stepped up and got a win on the second night of a back to back on the road.
00:00:32
Wow, I am blown away by what we just saw from this team.
00:00:35
Incredible stuff.
00:00:36
We're going to dive into it, But first guys make sure you are following Lakers nation across social media.
00:00:40
We're heading into the trade deadline.
00:00:42
There's gonna be a lot of stuff coming out to make sure you're following at Lakers Nation on Twitter and Facebook at Lakers Nation official on Instagram.
00:00:49
And don't forget, hit that subscribe button on the Lakers nation YouTube channel and ring the bell.
00:00:54
Get notified every time we have a new video coming out like I just did one about about the latest trade rumors.
00:01:00
Make sure you guys go take a look at that.
00:01:02
What? Rob Politicas extension and promotion.
00:01:05
It means for the Lakers on the trade front and who they might be looking to ship out.
00:01:08
So check out that on the YouTube channel.
00:01:11
Joining me tonight is Chris Masters.
00:01:13
Follow him on Twitter at Chris A Donuts and on Instagram at Chris Masters 310 Kris.
00:01:20
Incredible night, man. Thanks.
00:01:22
Thanks for coming in.
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Joining me.
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Oh, yeah.
00:01:25
That was no problem. No problem.
00:01:27
That was a really encouraging win right there.
00:01:29
I mean, they were actually, they were absolutely on fire.
00:01:32
Everybody was contributing.
00:01:33
It was just ah, hell of the first half.
00:01:35
I mean, hell of a whole game.
00:01:37
But, you know, the Oklahoma City Thunder did make a little run or start to gain some momentum in the third, but the Lakers answered, kind of headed by coups and Rondo of all people.
00:01:48
We've given Rondo so much heat, but I'm really on, You know, even this has all been awesome to see.
00:01:54
I didn't get to see yesterday's game, as you know, but I mean, it looks like they pretty much dominated that match up, and then they come in and do this without I mean, this was the situation we always talk about, like we're really it's always okay if we don't have LeBron.
00:02:06
Or maybe we don't have a D But we didn't have both guys and we didn't have green and they were able to absolutely dominate tonight, and this is exactly what we would want to see.
00:02:15
This is awesome.
00:02:16
Yeah.
00:02:17
I mean, look, the Lakersbench has been under fire, and for good reason, the bench kept blowing leads.
00:02:20
Whenever LeBron James is out, the offense look terrible.
00:02:23
And yet here they are, pretty much an entire bench unit for the entire game.
00:02:29
And they blow out a team that's been red hot to be.
00:02:31
The Thunder just took out the Houston Rockets the other night, and I want to talk about that a little bit because look, okay, see? Yeah, there's a little bit of an emotional letdown when you go from a game where Russell Westbrook is coming back into town and all the eyes are on you and all that.
00:02:44
Then the next game up there can kind of be a little bit of ah let down.
00:02:48
I think we did see that a little bit from the thunder tonight, but at the same time, you just have to credit the Lakers and the guys who were here.
00:02:55
They've had this next man up mantra for the entire season.
00:02:58
And, man, did they step up tonight.
00:03:01
Incredible stuff, and especially the guy that we need to dive into it because he's already lighting up our our chat here.
00:03:07
People are talking about Kyle Kuzma.
00:03:09
What did you think about his performance tonight? It was amazing.
00:03:14
I mean, offensively he was doing I mean, we know he's capable of these things.
00:03:17
It's just we don't know.
00:03:18
We see it like he's doesn't seem like he's within the flow of the game a lot of times, but tonight he was obviously given a lot more responsibility, and he answered, I mean, we came on this show a few.
00:03:28
What was it? The show before last and we were giving him, you know, we were We were kind of betting if he's gonna be under over 20.
00:03:36
Well, I think you finished with 36 points tonight, So he more than answered and quite frankly, for who's this is just exactly what he needed to do so.
00:03:43
It's not really like we can.
00:03:45
I mean, it's awesome for him and we'll definitely celebrate and we're happy we won.
00:03:49
But this is really what Crews had to do, especially in this moment, with a D and LeBron being down and, you know, it's just it's very encouraging to see.
00:03:57
I mean, he was busting out all the offense and move tonight. Moves tonight.
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He had all the tricks, right? Yeah, he was showing the versatility.
00:04:02
He was hitting for deep.
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He was getting into the paint, doing everything for the team.
00:04:06
Seven boards, 36 points on 15 of 24 shooting, four of six from three for Kyle Kuzma.
00:04:13
What a performance from him And and what do you do now? Like that? I mean, he is the name.
00:04:17
He's the one guy that trade rumors have been swirling around because he's probably the Lakers most valuable non LeBron or a D piece.
00:04:24
Right now, our most tradeable piece is Kyle Kuzma.
00:04:28
What do you do now? Like if you're rumple Inca, do you point to this performance and say, Look, everybody better, better be willing to give us something really good for Kakuma Or do you just say that's it? We're not Trade them. This guy's too good.
00:04:39
He's part of our future core.
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Where do you go from here? Ah, that's tough trouble.
00:04:44
I mean, I like a lot of people.
00:04:47
I mean, I love coups, and, um, it's This is really hard to speculate on these things because you don't want automatic.
00:04:53
You know, it's hard to say about one of your players.
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Always should trade him or what not.
00:04:57
But I'll just say, if I was speculating and I still think, I mean, it's obviously helps the cause.
00:05:03
I think either way, it helps.
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The cause for instinct helps the cause for trading, and that's why it's so weird.
00:05:10
But I still think that if I was betting, I'd say that Cruz might still be moved.
00:05:16
Yes, it feels like it could be like this just feels like there's just guys who could probably contribute a little better to this specific team for the Lakers than maybe what Crews can do. I'll tell you what.
00:05:26
Look, the scoring that Kuzma has provided over the last few games has been tremendous, and that's something that the Lakers have dearly needed off their bench.
00:05:32
They needed somebody who could put the ball in the basket.
00:05:35
However, there is a little bit of a conundrum here with Kyle Kuzma because you can see that when you give him more minutes.
00:05:42
He does well, right? He plays well.
00:05:44
He if you give him a big role, he tends to thrive in that situation instead of coming in for, say, 20 minutes at night.
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That's where he kind of struggles and you feel him forcing things a little bit like he knows his minutes or short.
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And so he's got to try to make the most of every single one of them.
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And so then he winds up putting up some some ugly shots and just forcing right.
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And now you've got a situation where Cruz was playing so well.
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But Anthony Davis is gonna play the four.
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He's starting there.
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LeBron James is your your nominal three.
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If LeBron and 80 air starting, that means Kyle Kuzma is not.
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There's not really a spot in the starting lineup to put Koosman, so the question for Frank Vogel is gonna be now.
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How do you if you can't start called Koosman and I don't think you can.
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I don't think you can start him at the two or anything like that.
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You can't stop him at the five.
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So if you can't start him, how do you get him enough minutes, then, to at least still have a starter level impact? I think it's gonna be really interesting to see over these next few weeks how Vogel handles that situation.
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Yeah, because, I mean, you're right.
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I mean, I remember the games before when we did have LeBron in a D and especially what? Who's being under the microscope like he has been and you could just see it like he was trying to force his regular amount of shots and says such a shorter period of time, and it just it really didn't work out well for him.
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But, you know, this is just the hard won, the hard one to say.
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I mean, I'm sure they're probably upper management is having all the same conversations that we're having at least one we're having right now.
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So I still feel like advisor.
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But, I mean, I know there's gonna be some changes to the teams that I would still lean towards.
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It probably be you know, coups and probably somebody else, because I think they're gonna have to package it because of the money situation.
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You know better than me about that.
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But, you know, that's just where my head's at.
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At this point, Yeah.
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If they are going to trade Koosman, you almost have toe combine them with somebody else.
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But again, this is just in order.
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Logistically make the money where it could make it illegal trade.
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But, uh but again, this is the This is the performance where a lot of fans are gonna be saying. Nope, That's it.
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We're out.
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Do not trade.
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Cale.
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Cosmo, You keep him. This dude just put up 36 points.
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Ah, he was an absolute flamethrower out there.
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You got to keep him.
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Ah, and and look, I can't blame him, you know? Can't blame him if you say, Look, this is what we're gonna do.
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This level of play is something that that Kyle Cruise Menken touch consistently enough cause that's been his problem has been consistency.
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If he could do something like this consistently enough with LeBron and 80 on the on the floor, he's not scoring 36 But he scored 2022.
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That's a piece that you probably want to hang on to.
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So again, gonna be interesting to see how the Lakers handle things from here and can call Cosmo.
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Follow up this performance with some other good ones to show that he can play well consistently.
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That's the big hurdle for him right now.
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The other guy who had a huge night.
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Huge night, My favorite player.
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Rajon Rondo.
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Huge performance.
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12 boards, eight assists, one steal, 21 points.
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10 of 22 from shooting from the field.
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Even knocked in.
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There's only one of six but knocked in 13 playoff Rondo lives. Chris.
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I don't know what else to say.
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This. Everybody talks about playoff Rondo.
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That's what we saw tonight was the playoff version of Roger Run? No, he's still alive.
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Yeah, and I've heard people reference this and we've seen it before.
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But, I mean, maybe this is why an argument could be made to actually keep Rondo, even if we still need a ball handler coming off the bench.
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It's like Rondo has been with the experience he has.
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He's been in so many big moments that this could you know Just having him on the roster can pay dividends come playoff time.
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So you know, it's nice to see him, you know, obviously play out Rondo being initiated tonight and he definitely stayed the offense.
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It looked like he did a little bit of everything out there.
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Whenever Rondo has a good game, I'm always just constantly thinking of you.
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For somebody like KCP goes off when we think of and we think of jazz, it's whoever you talk to most trash about.
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That's not two people go after.
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And you know what? I get it, Uh, and I've always said I don't have I hope Rondo find success I was concerned about is three point shooting and defense.
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And if he could do other things well enough to mitigate that, if he like the ants, enough threes to make it mitigate the defense, no problems with that.
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If he can rebound 12 boards tonight, clearly a season.
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So what if he if he can rebound the way he did? If he can control the pace the way he did tonight, then you don't worry so much about the other things.
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The question is, can he do those things consistently if the answer is yes, he can do these things that I have zero issues with Rajon Rondo because this was a tremendous game.
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And you know what I love Chris is both tonight and last night and last night's game as well, especially at the end of the third quarter.
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Rhonda recognized not just what the team needed but with the team needed from him, what he needed to do in order to get the Lakers a win.
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When the Lakers Biggs got into foul trouble and LeBron James went out towards the end of the third quarter, what Rondo do, he attacked the basket a couple times in road, got himself to the free throw line.
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The Lakers offense had bogged down.
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He got some cheap, easy points at the line, and that's not his forte getting to the free throw line.
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But he recognized the pace of the game required him to do that, and he did it tonight.
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He knew without LeBron without Anthony Davis know Danny Green out there.
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Somebody was going to have to set the tone early and he took it upon himself.
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To do that, he went out and had a phenomenal first quarter.
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He was getting into the paint.
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He was slinging passes all over the place. He was scoring.
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He was doing everything the team needed him to do.
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And that's like you said the benefit of having a veteran on the team who has been in these situations before.
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And Chris, I love that you mentioned that.
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This doesn't mean that you don't need to go find another ball handler, right? You can still find someone else.
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You could pick up a Darren Collison but still have Rondo in your back pocket knowing that he can probably handle big moments like this.
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Yeah, and he made a strong argument tonight for his role on the team.
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I mean, honestly on it.
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Just that thing with Rondo.
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I think the best that we can tell, at least from most of this season, is you just can't expect this our regular basis from Rhonda.
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You can't expect him to play playing like, you know, if anybody needs the load manager's probably Rondo at this point, you know what I mean.
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So, you know, I just I feel like I'm having Rondo on our team could definitely benefit us down the line And so if if you know he's not worked out and I think he has it the back to a no trade clause anyway, So I think we're pretty much we're gonna have Rondo no matter what.
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So we might as well get used to it.
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I mean, he's going to, you know, have games like this.
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I don't think playoff Rhonda was something that just happens once a season.
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So we're gonna have situations where LeBron can play like we did tonight and look what Rhonda was able to do.
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I think that was an awesome awesome gave me out tonight. Yeah.
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I mean, look and we and yeah, you're right.
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We have to hope, right that this isn't a one time thing.
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This isn't a one off playoff.
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Rondo isn't just just making a one night only cameo appearance, appearance or anything like that.
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We have to hope the playoff Rondo shows up in the playoffs.
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But he Ah, he obviously appeared tonight.
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A few other guys were absolutely phenomenal for the Lakers effect.
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You know it, really, That was the whole team made contributions.
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But Dwight Howard, 14 boards, three assists, two blocks, 12 points.
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He made some nice plays did.
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Did make a few mental errors out there picking a protective file and things like that.
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JaVale head up had a ridiculous dunk on Steven Adams.
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That was, that was that was just nasty, but six boards.
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I'm sorry.
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Seven boards.
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Six points had a block as well.
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So the Lakers Biggs, Dwight, make Howard combined.
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You put you put them together. And again.
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Solid performance from them.
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Shot, what? Seven of 14 from the field they picked up combined.
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You've got 21 boards, five assists and three blocks to go along with 18 points.
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You'll take that from your center position all day, especially on a night like this when you're missing Anthony Davis, the big stepped up just like the Lakers needed them to do.
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Yeah, and, you know, just to kind of, you know, bring this all together.
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I'm just loving like this is so great for this to happen for this team right now.
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It's never great to have your two top guys to be out, and obviously I know, uh, Lebron's only he's just sick.
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I believe in a d S.
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O.
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Got the, you know, the gluttonous Maximus.
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Bumpy took, but they're gonna be so great.
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Hey, heard exactly This is gonna be great for this team because all these guys are gonna like this is gonna build a lot of swagger for these guys, just for them to know that they were able to go out against a good okay, See team.
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I mean, again, this is a good team this season, a lot better than anybody expected, but to come out and like when this convincingly.
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This is goingto help the overall team, you know, And it's gonna be great for us because we'll know that in the future for this season, for whatever reason, LeBron or a d have the load manager take a rest.
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I have a lot more faith just based on watching this game alone, that like, Hey, we might be able to actually rest our guys, especially going into May in June.
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I don't know. What do you think? Yeah, I agree.
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100%.
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This gives them that confidence to know that Hey, even if somebody does go down, they can pull things off.
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Now we'll say my my thought process behind this type of situation has always been that teams can handle losing a star for a game for two games sometimes, right? If you lose a star player, the other guys on the team all pick up their games, their sharpness and increases the attention to detail increases.
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And you could wind up picking up winds that way.
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But over the long haul, that's where you feel losing that star player.
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So if LeBron or a D or somebody where it was to go out for a longer stretch, that's where I think these guys, you would start to see the flaws, right, that would that would happen.
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But for a one for one night for two nights, like we've seen these last two back to back, they can.
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They can step up.
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That can happen.
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And that's exactly what did happen here.
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The Lakers didn't take it as, Oh, we don't have these guys were in trouble.
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I guess we're just not gonna win.
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They went out and attacked this game, and that's it.
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That's a credit to this team for not just rolling over and say, Oh, schedule loss, you know, we'll just we'll just take the El No, they went out there and they did exactly what they needed to do to get the wind and to beat.
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Like you said, a good Oklahoma City thunder team.
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You know, I see a lot of comments online with people saying, Oh, well, the thunder just bad.
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No, the thunder have actually been really good recently.
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Uh, the thunder broadcast was talking all about how they actually have a better record than the Lakers like November 15th or something like that.
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They picked up some big wins and then, like I said earlier, they got a big win over the Houston Rockets.
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So I count this as a major win for the Lakers.
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This wasn't a game that they should just walk in there and steamroll this game or anything.
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Like like, if it was the Golden State Warriors, you would expect the lakersbench to still get a win, right? But against this Thunder team, I was thinking that for sure the thunder we're gonna walk away with the W and the Lakers were going to say, Well, you know, we didn't have our stars.
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But the Lakers, they surprised me.
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They shocked me and, ah, gotta be proud of this team of what we've just pulled off Yeah, And you know, I I know exactly what you mean.
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It's kind of a fight or flight response.
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You lose your two top guys and then everybody just feels that adrenaline of having like, we can do this, we can, you know, Let's band together and let's go up there and show them that we can all ball to, um the only thing that makes this extra special for me is like for the rest of the season.
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I don't expect many games where we're gonna have both LeBron and a D down, let alone green.
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So to see them, you know, even with that being considered, to see them come out tonight and play this well against OK, see again is just I mean, it's a beautiful thing, because again, like I said, we don't expect to nestle have LeBron in a D out.
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So in most situations, you're gonna have these guys and you're gonna have at least one of the three guys who was out, you know, if not, you know, 203 or not, all of them.
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So just very encouraging.
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Overall, absolutely, absolutely super encouraging.
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The bench has been the biggest weakness for the Lakers this season.
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So to see them step up in this way has got to give you some confidence.
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Moving forward it.
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So my dad just hopped into the into the chat.
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He said, Coach Vogel has is a great coach.
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Had the team ready to go.
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What do you think about Vogel tonight? I thought he thought he was tremendous, that the team was just their game plan fit exactly.
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The personnel that they had out there on the floor.
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Oh, yeah.
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And he's really having the earnest money now, at least over the last couple of games games.
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I mean, you can't just dump it to a D, right? So, you know, there it looked like there was a lot more plays called, and it was very fluent, at least with the options.
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I seemed to me like they got a lot out in transition, and, uh, you know, everybody was just like everybody was contributing and doing well tonight from, you know, like, pretty much everybody I can't think of.
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I mean, even Quinn cook, you know, like we saw Quinn cook and hit a couple shots tonight.
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So, uh, you know, is just a good day overall for everybody And Frank Global.
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Just that we can't exclude him.
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Obviously has just been a tremendous coach.
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And, you know, he just installed more confidence in us and games like this where you don't have both guys and, you know, you're able to scheme.
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And your again coming from a situation where we were in last year with Luke Waldon where he won't make any adjustments, he would just stick to whatever.
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And he he had scripted and to have a guy called things on the Fly.
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I mean, you know, I'm sure you appreciate that, too.
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I just appreciate somebody who can watch the game in live time and make a judgment call or call something on the fly that he didn't anticipate before the game.
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Yeah, Yeah, I agree.
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100% he was able to adjust on the fly.
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I liked how aggressive they were.
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They were out there shooting threes.
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Quinn Cook, Troy Daniels.
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We're gonna It was like Quinn cook in Troy Daniels were unleashed.
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They like finally, we're getting playing time, and they started taking shots.
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There were a few times where I went.
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Oh, that was kind of quick on the trigger, and they knocked him down.
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Quinn Cook five of 10 shooting two of four from 3 13 points, three assists, his best game in months.
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Clearly, a lot of that is because he hasn't been playing, but he had a solid performance.
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Troy Daniels.
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Two of six from deep six boards, 12 points.
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He had a nice one, too.
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Look, these guys stepped in and contributed.
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Everybody, everybody, everyone did something tonight, Jared Dudley said.
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A bone crushing screen on Dennis shooter.
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I mean, it was It was like he must have stolen something out of your playbook, Chris, because he he'd absolutely leveled sugar.
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It was It was an incredible performance from from him as well meets a nice defensive stops even though if you look at the statue doesn't look like he did much.
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He was good.
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They all stepped up.
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And I guess that's that's the big takeaway here, right? Every single person on that team that made it on the floor.
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They did their share and then some tonight.
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Yeah, I gotta say travel.
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I'm a big fan of those brick wall screens.
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I mean, physical, brutal.
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I love setting him on to Kay and just watching guys get knocked right down to the O.
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I mean, it just cracks me up, but hey, well, what was sweeter tonight? Been seeing Alex Caruso going three for four from three point range.
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I mean, I know we love his dunks, but to see that kind of sweet little shot just go win like that.
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That was something special, wasn't it? Yeah.
00:20:08
So the Alex Caruso revenge game, he actually started in the GI League with the Oklahoma City blue, which is the Thunders G League team.
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He started with them, then he jumped over to the Lakers.
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Julie team and our summer league team earned a spot earlier to a contract from there.
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And then it's worked his way up.
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And now Alex Crusoe's hit Minutes against the Thunder.
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Which is pretty cool to see, um, and is in the All Star game.
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Or at least hopefully, yes.
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Yeah, hopefully, let's keep let's keep voting.
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Keep voting.
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Lakers fans keep him in that.
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Get it, Get him in that all star game.
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Let's see how how we can do with that one there.
00:20:41
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00:22:19
All right, let's talk a little bit about Well, let's get into this one first from Facebook.
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Carnell.
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Michelle Johnson said Trevor, please talk about how well the Lakers air starting to shoot the three.
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So what did you think about that tonight? Chris, You know the Lakers were and not just shooting the threes, but confidently shoot in.
00:22:36
They were seeking them out.
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15 and 32 on the night.
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47%.
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Uh, impressive stuff.
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What are your thoughts on what that means for the Lakers and their long term game? Well, it gives me a lot of relief.
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I mean, we haven't seen them do this on many consecutive games this season.
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I don't know if this might be.
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I hope it's the highest percentage they've shot all season, but it's probably definitely up there.
00:23:00
But it still doesn't make me think that we have some kind of like running gun kind of Golden State Warriors three point shooting team or anything like that, right? It does.
00:23:09
It is just nice to see, because I can remember coming on the show just a couple months ago, and it was kind of talking a lot about how this is such a two point shooting team in terms of getting to the basket and not enough guys who are consistent.
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Three.
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So it's just it's nice to see, especially for a lot of these guys who had that step up tonight for them.
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Thio go out there and shoot this way, you know, from beyond the arc.
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And also, you know, just we We need them to have these type of games in order to boost their confidence anyway, going throughout the season.
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So, you know, again, just going back to being having LeBron in a D down and having them shoot this well from beyond the yard can just play this.
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Well, uh, you know, this has just been definitely.
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Ah, big win for us tonight.
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Yeah.
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Look, it's been Ah, it was a big one and a big for their confidence.
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Like you said, for, um, for going out there and Ah, and being able to knock down those shots right.
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You haven't been able to hit those shots for most of the season.
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Lakers three point shooting has been great.
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So, too not only, um, not only hit him, but hit him in a game where LeBron and a d r out.
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Some of the comments are coming in Chase Arena, not Oracle. Yeah.
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Sorry. Guys away. Back to last season. Chase Arena.
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That's the new one. My fault.
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That's where we're going for Gold State.
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But anyway, uh, look, knocking down those shots in a game where LeBron and 80 are out and you really need them. Wait.
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You really needed those threes for the Lakers.
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I thought that was important to their ability to knock him out.
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Knock him down like that.
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James, Tom James Tames said Trevor, should Cosmo start.
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I don't know, Chris.
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Like, how do you get Kyle Kuzma into the starting lineup if you're committed to LeBron and a D, which you should be.
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But how do you get in? How do you get Kuzma in there or or do you just continue bring him off the bench? I'm kind of more on your side with this.
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I feel like positionally.
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There's no place to put him, especially if you're starting July or make out if you're starting any one of them.
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So you have your center right and then you're gonna have LeBron played.
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Four.
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It's because you're not gonna have coos guard the two right? Like who's can only really guard the three and like toe have them.
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I just I don't know positionally with LeBron if you're gonna have LeBron and 80 out there along with another center.
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I don't know where crews fits in that.
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Like maybe there's a way to argue for him if you're running, as you know, small ball with or with a D at the centre.
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But I'd like to see what you say about this.
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Yeah, I see that.
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That's my That's my hold upright, like in orderto have Koosman on the floor with both LeBron and a D.
00:25:46
That means a D has to be the center, and he doesn't want to spend most of his minutes at center.
00:25:50
And I think Dwight make.
00:25:52
Howard has done a good enough job at the five that you need to have minutes, therefore for them.
00:25:57
And you need to have minutes with a D at the four because it's a little bit less physically demanding on him.
00:26:02
He doesn't take quite as much punishment.
00:26:04
So how do you get Cosmo enough minutes? It's going to be a real challenge.
00:26:08
S o.
00:26:09
I don't I'd say no, you don't start Kuzma, but he's deserving of it, right? Like he's deserving off a starting spot.
00:26:16
There just isn't one for him, but I I imagine that's got to be frustrating for him, right? Yeah, yeah, I think you just made an argument actually, for it.
00:26:23
So let's there's not.
00:26:25
It's not gonna be every game this season.
00:26:27
I definitely probably about the playoffs where we're gonna need either Dwight or JAVALE.
00:26:32
We're not gonna need them for the most game.
00:26:34
Most likely depending on the PC on the match ups and what not? But you know, you could if you're doing Ah, if you know we're not running our centers over running a decent center.
00:26:44
I guess you could possibly do a lineup that started like Avery Bradley at the point.
00:26:49
Um, who was I gonna have to Oh, that's the problem.
00:26:54
Well, that that is the problem right there.
00:26:55
Is it? If you're going to and a bunch of people are jumping in right now saying, Well, clearly, bench Danny Green and you put Kuzma in.
00:27:03
That means Koosman is You're too.
00:27:05
If you do that on offense, you can get on offense.
00:27:09
You could do that.
00:27:10
You can get away with that on offense.
00:27:11
Way we have LeBron it before we have a d at the five.
00:27:15
And then we would, but running who's at the three? Yeah, if you were okay.
00:27:21
So if you were to take one of the one of the centers off the floor Yeah, you could run.
00:27:25
You could run.
00:27:26
That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yes.
00:27:28
If we run a d it center, LeBron it before we run, who's at the three? And then it's like it would be a very Brad Avery Bradley at the point.
00:27:36
And then I guess Green at the shooting guard.
00:27:38
I mean, that could be something that works out for us down the line.
00:27:42
Yeah, yeah, that's something that could work.
00:27:44
But somebody threw up here from Facebook, William Alysia said.
00:27:49
Guys, if he doesn't start, he isn't going to want to be on the team.
00:27:52
That's the problem.
00:27:54
Look, and that's that's what I'm saying.
00:27:55
Like Look, if you can't find a starting role for Cruz, but does he eventually want to go somewhere else? And do you kind of had that off? I may be looking to trade market all things that the police have to consider not saying that you trade Cale Kozma.
00:28:06
I'm just saying there is it.
00:28:08
Look, it's a great problem.
00:28:09
The half right.
00:28:10
You've got a guy who needs minutes who could do good things for your team, and you've got so many good players in front of him that you can't find minutes.
00:28:16
That's a great, great problem for the Lakers to have.
00:28:19
But it's still a problem.
00:28:20
It's still something that they're going to have to figure out.
00:28:23
Can you get away with Cruz? Met the two, maybe on some nights.
00:28:27
But if you've got, like, a C J McCollum or something there that you're going up against, that's you're not gonna get away with Koosman chasing CJ McCollum.
00:28:35
That's not gonna work.
00:28:37
Um, you maybe you convince a D to play the five MB or some games.
00:28:42
And so that way Koosman can get more minutes in there.
00:28:44
Maybe you could do that, but But regardless, Frank Vogel is gonna have to try to figure that out.
00:28:49
That's gonna be a big question.
00:28:50
Moving forward.
00:28:51
Um, Anthony Nazi says Koosman needs to play starter's minutes off the bench like Lou will.
00:28:56
I agree with you.
00:28:57
I agree with that, and I think you can go that route.
00:29:00
The question is still how do you get him enough minutes? I want to see 30 plus minutes a night for Kyle Kuzma, and it's gonna be a little bit difficult doing that.
00:29:08
That's gonna be kind of tough to do.
00:29:10
Um, let's see what else we've got here.
00:29:13
A lot of people are saying Koosman needs to start seeing a ton of that.
00:29:17
People are digging Kyle Kuzma and with good reason book.
00:29:20
But it's just it's just like you said.
00:29:21
I think we're all so quick to react game basis.
00:29:25
I mean, it's just like you said.
00:29:26
Of course, everybody's gonna go crazy about the game cruises having, But again, I mean, we haven't It's not like we've seen a ton of this this season.
00:29:34
And there might just be a big problem, because if we can't get cooze all the minutes he needs and he doesn't have the production yet tonight because of that, you know, that would be an argument for the trade.
00:29:44
Yeah. Yep.
00:29:45
Very, very true.
00:29:46
Very true.
00:29:47
It if he can't be able to produce on a consistent basis.
00:29:50
Ah, here's the lineup that that somebody threw out Kevin Kenneth Higa Rada from Facebook, said Bradley Kuzma LeBron a D. McGee.
00:29:59
That's their their lineup.
00:30:00
So they're taking out Danny Green using Cruise.
00:30:02
But the two I don't know, I don't know if you get away with it.
00:30:06
I don't know about him getting guarding those guys.
00:30:09
I feel like he's gonna get burned defensively.
00:30:11
Like I feel like, Right.
00:30:12
Like, I feel like the only matchup he can really handle adequately is the three of the four.
00:30:19
Yeah, that just depends on who it is.
00:30:21
He's still young.
00:30:22
I just I don't feel like coups as much strength, you know, like, if you actually worked on its strength, it would probably help out a lot, I think.
00:30:29
Well, we needed a touch with you then.
00:30:30
Chris, you need to get on training from a program with it with you on battle.
00:30:37
Uh, that'll help him out.
00:30:39
Except then, you know, I know at some point some random point in the game, we would get a bulked up verge of cow Koosman.
00:30:45
He'd slap a master lock on somebody, and then we don't look at you.
00:30:48
That's why that would be awesome.
00:30:52
Uh, let's see.
00:30:53
Here. Let me dive into a few more of these.
00:30:55
These comments.
00:30:56
Ah, a lot of people talking about Quinn cook I've got from YouTube.
00:30:59
Cook played well, 13 points.
00:31:01
Quinn Cook had a great night.
00:31:04
Quinn, Cook, lingering Look great from Larry.
00:31:06
Show be from YouTube.
00:31:08
Thelma Oh, said Quinn.
00:31:09
Cook needs more minutes.
00:31:11
Where do you Where do you go from here? Did Quinn Cook play well enough to where you say, Okay, let's give him a shot next game, game After that, let's start to try to find some minutes for him.
00:31:21
Oh, that's tough to say.
00:31:23
I don't want to be mean or anything on this because, you know, I just I don't like to come off like that, but, I mean, we haven't I'm glad that we got some output from them tonight, but again, it's just we haven't seen enough of it to start praising him.
00:31:35
I mean, he was to perform tonight.
00:31:37
I mean, he did.
00:31:39
He did? Well, it's certain points, but again, I don't think we should start singing his praises yet.
00:31:44
We just we need more consistency out of guys like that.
00:31:47
And, you know, it's not that we should never expect them to come up in some former passion for the team.
00:31:53
You know, I would expect a quick toe, have a good game eventually, you know, But, uh, it's not making me think any different that's been cooked.
00:32:01
I mean, he could easily be part of the package, if that's even possible.
00:32:05
If I were running team, Yeah, look, I mean, if if a train comes up and there's something that makes a ton of sense and Rob Blake is looking at it and think this makes us more likely to win a championship and Quinn Cook is part of it, I don't think you hesitate, right? I don't think you I don't think he's like your answer at this point or anything, But I thought this was a positive performance and it's worth giving him another look.
00:32:28
And if he if he compounds this, if he plays well in another game in another game, out for that, maybe he starts to eat into some some solid minutes.
00:32:35
But for right now, I think you just have to look at this as a one game thing.
00:32:38
Great game for him and perfect timing and see where it goes from here.
00:32:42
I don't think we can make a definitive statement like, Oh Quinn, Cook should definitely be part of the rotation moving forward.
00:32:48
Let's see where it goes from from here to figure that out.
00:32:51
Hey, Trevor, I got a quick question for you just real quick So let me ask you this.
00:32:55
We know that LeBron and a d r not apart.
00:32:58
They're not part of any trade or anything like that.
00:33:00
They're untouchable, right? So I got a question for you.
00:33:03
And, you know, I got a question.
00:33:04
Probably cause nation.
00:33:05
So if we're taking LeBron in a d out of the package, what one Laker outside of those two guys, would you deem untradeable if any, or at least the closest thing to that? So if you had to take anybody else off the table and say that this player is is not tradable for you, that is a tough question.
00:33:22
That's a great question.
00:33:24
That's really a great question on.
00:33:25
And I'm assuming, Are we excluding the guys with the ability to veto a trade? So you're kcp Rondo javale? You know, I'm just I'm just saying whoever is there one guy that you value more so than any other guy in terms of this play or just in terms of whatever it is outside of LeBron and a D, I mean, I don't even have an answer for it.
00:33:44
Honestly, I mean, I'm going to come up, come off as biased when I say this, but I look at that when you look at the defensive numbers and the impact he has, when when LeBron is on the floor and knowing that Cosmo is the piece that probably gets you the most in return knowing that you're probably not gonna get equal value for this pretty clear player, I'm gonna say Alex Caruso and I know people are gonna be rolling their eyes and everything.
00:34:06
But I I know like we've been pumping up Alex Caruso forever is part of a team and all of that.
00:34:12
But But you look at what he's been doing.
00:34:14
I don't think you get anyone.
00:34:17
I don't think there's any way to put him in a trade where you get back what he gives the leg like it's like you could trade and get back equal value.
00:34:25
You could find a piece that would that would provide something.
00:34:27
But I don't think other teams see Crusoe the way the Lakers seem, and so that's why I'm going there.
00:34:31
Not that I'm saying Caruso is is like the M v p.
00:34:34
He's the superstar.
00:34:35
He's the guy they want to build around.
00:34:37
No, I'm not saying that I'm just saying it will be hard to get the right kind of value to trade him.
00:34:40
So I'd take Chris and it lit the chat room, agrees with me guys, the chat room agrees.
00:34:45
I'm getting all these comments on here saying Alex got so so. I love it.
00:34:50
I love it.
00:34:51
And some even Dwight Howard takes.
00:34:52
Who would have guessed that earlier in the season, just one that I just wanted to hear you and everybody else just say Alex Caruso is untradeable.
00:35:01
That's what you were gonna isolate that sound clip? Great, that's gonna follow.
00:35:05
It's gonna follow me forever.
00:35:06
Hey, you know what? Look, anything can happen, right? And in the n B A, you never know what's gonna happen.
00:35:11
A depleted Lakers team just beat up on the Oklahoma City thunder.
00:35:15
The Tennessee Titans are beating up on the boat.
00:35:17
Baltimore Ravens right now, like crazy things happen in the world of sports.
00:35:21
It's the way it goes. Expect the unexpected.
00:35:23
So who knows what the Lakers gonna do on the trade market? But yeah, great question.
00:35:28
I'm gonna go with Alex Caruso, and it seems like people agree with me on this one.
00:35:32
for right now.
00:35:33
You know, Tripp, I won't say that.
00:35:34
I don't mind the Dwight Howard response, either.
00:35:38
Not say that he has the most value to is from his game standpoint to the team.
00:35:43
But I just I love the story of Dwight and how he's changed his whole career around has become such a team first guy, and it's just been such a great story of retribution that the fan and me would not want to see him get traded.
00:35:55
Let's put it that way.
00:35:56
Yeah, agreed.
00:35:57
That's and that's it, too.
00:35:58
Yeah, you wouldn't want to see that happen.
00:36:00
I don't think that's going to happen.
00:36:01
I think the Lakers are pretty set, which a veil and Dwight Howard like It would have to be.
00:36:05
Hey, that Utah suddenly loses their minds and say, Hey, do you guys want Rudy? Go bear right? It would have to be something like that for you to see White or JaVale out at this point.
00:36:14
I don't think that's I don't think that's going to happen.
00:36:16
I'm I've got a few people in the chat talking about what's going on right now in Cleveland.
00:36:21
Uh, the Cavs, actually, we're actually It's in Denver's.
00:36:24
The Calves right now are beating the Denver Nuggets.
00:36:26
So it becomes an even better night.
00:36:28
They're only up to the O.
00:36:30
I think Denver is gonna come back seven minutes and 45 seconds left in the fourth.
00:36:33
But that's something we will we will keep an eye on unless I need to refresh here.
00:36:37
Am I missing something on the score? No, that's still the score.
00:36:41
Seven minutes, 45 seconds left.
00:36:43
90 to 88.
00:36:44
Right now.
00:36:45
Cleveland over Denver.
00:36:46
Obviously, the Lakers would like it.
00:36:47
They would give them a little bit more breathing room if the Cavs were able to pull off the wind.
00:36:51
So it's something we can keep on eye on.
00:36:53
We've got Mel a John Doe from Facebook. Trevor and Chris.
00:36:56
Can we send Danny Green as the sixth man are off the bench? That Cosmo will be in the starting lineup.
00:37:01
So let's forget about whether or not Cruz McCann play the two.
00:37:05
Are you at the point now where you're okay with perhaps sending Danny Green to the bench and putting someone else in his place? Oh, I don't know why? Why would we even go there? saying that Danny Green, just because of his production and somebody else has stepped up above him.
00:37:22
Yeah, I think that's what it is.
00:37:23
I think that, um I think that a lot of people are looking at it, and here's the thing.
00:37:27
A lot of people are looking at the salary and they're saying Danny Greene's not worth 15 million and so that's creating uneven, bigger kind of backlash against Green.
00:37:35
But, yeah, the people are looking at the production and saying he's not producing.
00:37:39
He's not producing relative to his contract.
00:37:41
Should he be sent to the bench? I don't know if I'm ready to go there.
00:37:45
At this point.
00:37:46
I still think he can make some big plays for you.
00:37:48
I think he's better than what we've seen so far, and the best is yet to come.
00:37:52
But what's your take? Chris, what do you think about about perhaps moving him to the bench of making a six man and bringing in whoever I mean Caruso, Jared Dudley just to set mean screens, I don't know whoever you're gonna bring up, just the idea of moving him to that bench unit.
00:38:06
KCP could be KCBS.
00:38:08
Probably answer there.
00:38:10
Yeah, well, that's what I was gonna ask you.
00:38:11
You're, like, so K c p.
00:38:13
I mean, I could see that, I guess I think more with Danny Green.
00:38:18
I kind of interest in Frank Vogel that maybe if he sees Danny Green doesn't happen on a given night, that he's not gonna just keep pushing them or whatever.
00:38:25
And he might make the call.
00:38:26
Thio just put him on the bench and put KCP And But I'm not in any place where I'm I'm like you.
00:38:32
My mother need place.
00:38:33
Why want to definitively say, Oh, Danny Green should be on the bench.
00:38:37
I understand the argument for being a six man because he can definitely light it up.
00:38:41
But I'm just I'm not completely sure what his best role is and again with the team with having the record it has that's been with Dan agreement to start line up.
00:38:50
So I don't know how much we want to tinker with this wallet we're doing as well as we are.
00:38:55
We get to a point where we're losing a lot and we can't figure it out of what's going on.
00:38:59
Then, you know, maybe we start making these slight little changes and what not? But I think it's a really big issue for us at this time.
00:39:07
Yeah, that's a great point there, Chris.
00:39:08
You don't tinker too much because things were going well, you know, there have been a lot of people have brought up over the course of the season that objectively, Dwight Howard has been better than JaVale McGee.
00:39:18
They both produce.
00:39:19
They've both done good things.
00:39:20
But Dwight has probably been a little bit better than jail over the course of the season.
00:39:24
Okay, but javale is starting.
00:39:27
A lot of people look at that starting job as okay, if you're starting, that sends the message that you're the best player.
00:39:32
But that's not always the case.
00:39:33
You know, you look at guys like Manu Ginobili.
00:39:35
He didn't start for large chunks of his career, came off the bench. Lou Williams.
00:39:39
These guys were talented enough to be starters, but they're not because they're team needs them coming off the bench, and that's working out better right now.
00:39:46
The Lakers is clearly working.
00:39:48
They've won eight in a row.
00:39:49
They've won their first place in the Western Conference.
00:39:52
They're up by what four and 1/2 games, five games now on the next closest team.
00:39:57
Things were going well.
00:39:58
Now is the time to start messing around with Lina Patan.
00:40:01
If you don't have to.
00:40:02
Okay, I get the idea, and that's and that's an argument to for why you keep Danny Green in the starting five, right? You keep the rotation and you keep going with what's been working.
00:40:10
There's no reason to tinker with things too much when things were going as well as they have been for the Lakers.
00:40:16
Yeah, like you said, Dwight Howard usually finishes anyway, and I understand the argument started, and maybe they would probably be ideal, your best line up to have Dwight Howard in the starting lineup, but again to go to other things.
00:40:28
Like you said before, you don't want to mess with the team continuity.
00:40:30
I mean, JaVale McGee is obviously very comfortable in the starting position and Dwight Howard, I just came here this season, so it just you don't create any issues in the locker room.
00:40:40
Everybody stays.
00:40:41
You know, we can keep our unit together and everybody on the same page.
00:40:46
Some people in the chatter are charming in saying, it doesn't matter. It's Dwight.
00:40:50
Make Howard. It's the same guy no matter what.
00:40:52
You d'oh interchangeable anyway, right? She's always been a coward, and this is This is a thing.
00:40:57
Uh, let's see here.
00:40:59
We're going to get into one or two more, and then, well, then we'll call it.
00:41:03
So, uh, that would just went by.
00:41:07
OK? So Daniel Jansen, side from Facebook, said, I think Kyle's not used to coming off the bench.
00:41:11
I love are starting unit.
00:41:13
Cosmo just needs to adjust to being off the bench with Starter's Minutes.
00:41:18
Is that an adjustment? Chris is that hard to be able to produce Coming off the bench when you're used to a starting role like like in in your line of work as a professional wrestler isn't an adjustment to go from being, say the headliner to, then maybe take a step back.
00:41:35
Maybe you're contending for the intercontinental championship or something instead of going for the heavyweight title.
00:41:39
Is that Is there a correlation there where it's a little bit different and how you prepare knowing that you're going to go on in a different time, You're gonna be asked to do different things the match is gonna be a different length.
00:41:49
Is that similar at all to coming off the bench in basketball, Right. Just reaching here.
00:41:55
Ah, I don't know it.
00:41:57
See, the thing is, is I think it is an adjustment, especially when you're coming from being a starter and you're going to the bench with a lot of guys.
00:42:05
They're not gonna react so favorably to that.
00:42:07
Like in professional wrestling.
00:42:08
Yeah, you went from one day.
00:42:10
You're like a pay per view.
00:42:12
You're working for the world heavyweight championship.
00:42:15
You know, whatever happens, happens in the next day you show up the television, and all of a sudden you're, you know, opening the car door, you're in a throwaway match.
00:42:23
I mean, that's gonna give you, you know, that's obviously a huge red flag for any athlete.
00:42:28
So, you know, it's I think it's a case by case basis.
00:42:31
I think what cooze.
00:42:33
You know, you would hope it could be one of those things that where he gets a chip on the shoulder and Alps motivation to play well, But, you know, I think some guys just don't bear with it like again, like I feel like it like we put Javale McGee in a situation where he's coming off the bench, that might really, mentally mess him up.
00:42:50
So I feel like it's really a case by case basis for each individual person about how they adjust.
00:42:56
I mean, you saw how and you look at a guy like move Williams with Lou Williams, I believe was a starter first, and then he kind of transition into that role is a six man, and now he embraces it, loves it, and I agree that he's not even really a six man.
00:43:08
He's really like a starter with the amount of minutes he plays.
00:43:11
But, you know, it really is.
00:43:12
It just depends on the individual.
00:43:14
Yeah, under with you, it's the minutes. It's not.
00:43:17
It's not whether or not you you start, that's Dad's to me.
00:43:19
The important part, and that's where Koosman needs to.
00:43:21
It needs to get more, but it can be an adjustment.
00:43:23
I think the people that are commenting on that are on the money on that.
00:43:27
It's not easy sometimes to adjust to coming off the bench of rhythm gets thrown off and ah, all of that, uh, let's see what's find one Maur here before we before we call it a show.
00:43:40
Um, I've got people asking for an update on DeMarcus cousins.
00:43:44
That's Jonathan Pain on YouTube.
00:43:45
There is no update right now.
00:43:46
We're still just hoping he comes back, but again, not expecting a lot out of him.
00:43:51
Uh, let's see.
00:43:55
We find one Maur good one that I like here that we can dig into.
00:44:06
Okay, so here's the thing.
00:44:08
Here's one that I don't want to get into it.
00:44:10
I'm seeing a lot of stuff here about Kuzma and people complaining that Cooze Bill would want to start.
00:44:14
Ian Fort from YouTube, says Koosman needs to play basketball.
00:44:17
Do you want to play a role for a championship or be the man on a 20 win team? I don't think it's a simple as that, like from a fan perspective.
00:44:28
You look at the situation Cale Cosmas, and you think he just must be in basketball heaven, right? This has to be the ideal situation.
00:44:34
You're playing with two all time greats and LeBron James and Anthony Davis.
00:44:38
You're playing for the Lakers, a historically great organization.
00:44:41
You've got the sunshine that whether all that kind of stuff.
00:44:44
You're getting sponsorship deals and you've got a chance to win an N B A championship.
00:44:49
What could be better than that? Right.
00:44:50
But I think people need to remember that Kyle Kuzma is still on his rookie deal and how much he makes on his next deal is going to be determined by what he produces.
00:45:00
And if he's only getting 20 minutes a night, it's hard to come out on the floor and produce at the level you need to to get a big contract.
00:45:06
I mean, he looks look at the landscape around him.
00:45:08
He looks at Brandon Ingram, who is probably getting a Max deal now, based on how well he's played for the new in the New Orleans Pelicans.
00:45:15
You look at Jalen Brown, who just got a big extension.
00:45:18
His peers have found ways to cash in, and Cosmo hasn't done that yet.
00:45:22
And so if you're him, you have to be thinking about that, too.
00:45:25
And look, you could say it shouldn't be about the money, but we're talking about generational wealth here, potentially.
00:45:30
You're talking about the ability to go when Thio to go play and win and get hundreds of millions of dollars potentially so.
00:45:38
Cosmo's got a look at that, too.
00:45:40
That's got to be a consideration.
00:45:41
This isn't just Oh, you know he doesn't want to be on the bench, and he hasn't made any comments like that or anything, so we can assume that.
00:45:47
But that's part of his situation, where you have to factor that in the fact that he has to play.
00:45:53
Not just for winning right now, not just to be on the Lakers and do all of these things.
00:45:57
He needs to play to make sure that he can can stick in this league.
00:46:00
And he can hit the levels individually that he needs to for his next contract's all right and no, that's may be uncomfortable for people to hear, but that's reality for Kyle Cruise.
00:46:10
May has to consider his own career in his own future as well as what's gonna be best for the team, right? Yeah, I think that's a really good point travel.
00:46:18
I mean, he's not just thinking about the collective team win.
00:46:22
He has to think about his individual performance every night in order to get that kind of offer.
00:46:27
Like, yeah, he sees his peers that you're talking about and they're getting these opportunities to really shine.
00:46:32
So what, You know, you can kind of understand that, you know, he needs to, you know, he needs to think of those things.
00:46:37
It wouldn't be an intelligent businessman business man, to be out there playing basketball and not think about What is it I do I need to do to individually showcase myself to show my value to the weak and what I can do.
00:46:49
So I'm sure he's really thrilled about having a game like tonight, where you can really have a chance to step up in the eighties absence and put up this many points cause at its peak form.
00:46:57
Yeah, absolutely.
00:46:58
And we talked about when 81st got hurt.
00:47:01
Kyle Kuzma will have the opportunity to shine and credit to him two games in a row.
00:47:06
Now he has done just that.
00:47:07
He has taken advantage of his opportunity.
00:47:10
That isn't always true, right? Some guys get the chance and they and they just they don't you know Instead, they just come up short caboose move did not do that.
00:47:20
He has definitely showed everybody what he can do in these last two games.
00:47:25
That grid.
00:47:26
All right, guys.
00:47:27
So let's, uh let's call it their great show.
00:47:31
Appreciate all the questions coming in from YouTube.
00:47:33
From periscope from Facebook.
00:47:35
Thank you guys for joining us again after a great great Lakers win against the Oakland City Thunder.
00:47:41
Chris, thank you so much for coming on and joining me.
00:47:43
I know you've had a busy Ah, busy couple of days.
00:47:46
You are.
00:47:47
You are recalling last night and all that.
00:47:49
Oh, I know where you're gonna go. Good.
00:47:51
Say what you're gonna say.
00:47:52
Well, we know. Okay.
00:47:54
So we know that I didn't make it on the show because I had a wrestling show to go to brother.
00:47:59
Did you end up everything? Why Jazz? No, I did not.
00:48:02
So everybody was asking me last night after last night's show.
00:48:06
Where's Chris and wears jazz.
00:48:07
Where are these guys? I said, Chris is is wrestling.
00:48:09
He's doing a show, I think I said he's probably got some fool in a master lock right now at this moment and retracted in which he did.
00:48:17
And Jazz is has some family, and so he's spending a family in town, and so he's spending time with family, but I didn't reveal exactly where jazz was spending time with family.
00:48:30
Oh, I think we're gonna blow up all of Lakers Nation.
00:48:32
If we say it, I think you're going to say it.
00:48:37
Jazz was at a Clippers game.
00:48:38
Jazz jazz went to Italy.
00:48:40
I didn't even know it.
00:48:41
Jazz went to a Clippers game and it was a game that the Clippers won.
00:48:46
I Yeah, I'm disappointed.
00:48:49
We're gonna have to.
00:48:50
We're gonna have to get on justice case next time He's on here, which I love the way I love the way he just casually told us via text message.
00:48:57
Oh, yeah, I met the Clipper game.
00:48:59
But I rationalize it like this driver.
00:49:00
This is the only way I could come to grips with jazz being a Clipper game.
00:49:04
His jazz was there just to scout the competition.
00:49:07
He was looking out for the Lakers greater good and served up going to the game and seeing how well we will actually match up with the Clippers and he just had to go there to see it. That's the only conclusion.
00:49:18
You remember his excuse? His excuse was well, my family really wanted to go Oh, I don't know.
00:49:26
Come on, Jazz.
00:49:27
Come on, Jazz.
00:49:28
There's there's There's family When these family, nobody's family wants to go to a Clipper.
00:49:33
No, nobody's probably wants to go to a Clipper game.
00:49:36
Come on, May.
00:49:37
And if And if that's your friend, that's your responsibility to set your family straights and we'll go to a Clippers game.
00:49:43
Come on, anyway.
00:49:45
We'll have to.
00:49:46
We'll have to have a nice little chat with jazz next time.
00:49:48
He's He's on here.
00:49:49
By the way, guys, since we since we extended this a little bit, the calves right now are up 107 to 101 over Denver.
00:49:56
They have increased the lead and there's only 42 seconds left.
00:49:59
Come on, Cleveland.
00:50:00
Hang in there.
00:50:01
I think that's a good spot to leave off.
00:50:02
Will leave some suspense.
00:50:04
Now people are saying trade, Jess, we've got a trade block.
00:50:11
All right? That's what you get for missing a show.
00:50:14
Jazz.
00:50:16
All right, man.
00:50:17
Chris again, thank you so much for joining me.
00:50:20
I really appreciate it that thanks for having me looking forward to Ah, the next.
00:50:25
What's our next match up, Mayor? Next matchup.
00:50:27
I've got that That pulled up rage.
00:50:30
I did have it pulled up.
00:50:33
Let's see.
00:50:34
Next up for the Lakers. Oh, they have those same cavaliers.
00:50:36
And that is coming up on will be Monday.
00:50:40
Yep. 13.
00:50:41
So that'll be on Monday.
00:50:42
So you got the cab's on Monday? Should be a good one. Especially.
00:50:45
The cabs can now take out the more trade pass comments.
00:50:49
If the if the calves can now take out the guy gets a Hey, calves air up now.
00:50:53
1092101 Love it. Love it.
00:50:56
Give the Lakers some breathing room. Great job, Cleveland.
00:50:59
All right, guys, make sure you go.
00:51:00
Follow makes you go.
00:51:02
Follow Chris Masters on social media.
00:51:05
Find him at Chris Adonis on Twitter at Chris Masters 310 on instagram.
00:51:11
Given a follow their does some great things.
00:51:14
They're both in the pro wrestling world and commenting on the Lakers.
00:51:17
Guys appreciate anybody who joined us.
00:51:19
Make sure you join us next time we're gonna be coming live after the Lakers take on the Cleveland Cavaliers.
00:51:25
Should be a fun one.
00:51:26
And don't forget to go check out that Frank Asian trip.
00:51:28
Gonna be a blast again.
00:51:30
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00:51:39
Go check it out.
00:51:40
It's gonna be a blast.
00:51:41
Can't wait. All right, guys, Thanks so much.
00:51:43
Want to follow me on social media? You can find me at Trevor.
00:51:45
Underscore Lane on Twitter at Trevor Lane N b A on instagram till next time.
00:51:52
I'm kidding.
00:51:53
One last look at the cab score CIA.

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