Welcome in my name's Trevor Lane for Lakers nation dot com, and this is the Lakers Nation postgame show.
We're gonna break down the game we just saw, which is? The Lakers won 23 toe, 1 13 win over the New Orleans Pelicans.
Look, we've got a lot to talk about.
Anthony Davis is huge.
Huge night blew up against his former team.
Will talk about LeBron's play.
I think, as the distributor out there, we'll talk about the issues as well.
We'll talk about Rajon Rondo and what the Lakers are going to do there because that's not looking good with the lakersbench.
I'm sure there's a lot of people frustrated with that.
I'll be taking all of your questions and comments on that one.
We'll talk about lungs, A ball coming back.
Brandon Ingram, Josh Heart, all the former young core Lakers coming back into Staples Center.
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So the Lakers do pick up the window.
Look, ah, lot of this game was so so fun.
It was just like the game against the Sun's, where the Lakers starters were phenomenal.
They were coming out there.
They were on the same page.
There were working things on the offensive end, getting open looks for guys like Danny Green, who actually had a big night of his own.
Danny Green finish with 25 points.
Six of 10 from deep yet, eh? Danny Greene's back.
Remember, we said This guy's a better shooter than what we've seen.
25 points, plus five boards and five assists.
Those air stats usually don't see from Danny Green. Two steals.
He had a great night.
That's because of the chemistry that we saw from the starting unit.
They were moving the ball all over the place.
They were like a wolf pack, hunting down the open shots and finding them every single time.
They were finding open looks and it was beautiful, beautiful basketball.
And then the bench came in and you guys know what happened.
It turned ugly real fast.
Rondo finished the night a minus 19 and I have a feeling that's where ah lot of us are gonna be focused on, but again, we want to stay positive.
We're going to get to all of that stuff in just a bit for right now.
The important thing is the Lakers won.
They now have a record of 27 7 on the season, which is incredible First place in the Western Conference.
They're doing an amazing job.
LeBron James has been phenomenal.
I like the way he's been passing the ball.
This Aah! Over the last few games, he's been able to kind of take his foot off the gas pedal too much, but he's been able to not have to score as many points.
He can set up his teammates, focus on that focus on a little bit more low impact play, and I think that's been really important for them, and actually there 28 7 Now I should say, Uh so LeBron be able to do that.
15 assists on the night he is dropping assist like crazy.
His numbers are going up, up, up eight boards at the same time.
Look, he and Anthony Davis have a great connection.
In fact, there was a play at the end of the first half where the pelicans trying to put drew holiday onto Anthony Davis so they could switch any type of pick and roll situation.
And LeBron knew exactly what to do.
Rather than go ahead and run the play that they had set up, the Pelicans were trying to stop, which was the easy LeBron pick and roll.
LeBron was just like fine here.
Throw the ball straight in.
They weren't ready for it all in eighties, getting easy points.
Get to the foul line.
It was a very smart, intelligent game from those starters, and I can't say enough how impressed I am with this starting unit. The Lakers.
They've been doing just a tremendous job across the board.
OK, but again, the bench.
Not good at all.
We're gonna have to get into that couch.
Cosmo is a minus 13.
I'm though I thought he had a decent night.
10 points, four of 10 shooting to four from deep in 19 minutes.
Dwight, look, It was a little bit of a tough outing for him.
Had a few nice blocks are one nice block towards the end, but only two points.
Three boards couldn't really get things going there JaVale, I thought was more effective on the night Troy Daniels filling in for the injured Alex Caruso.
I can say that, and that's not just a knock on Troy Daniels or anything like that.
Just with Rondo out there, you miss having a defensive ace next room.
You miss having ah, Caruso out there.
Troy Daniels is a better shooter than Alex Caruso.
We think, just paste on.
Historically, this season, he hasn't been great, but he's one of 1213 and that was it.
That was the only stat he recorded on the night.
Other than one turnover.
Troy Daniels is getting the minutes.
He got nine minutes, but he's not really producing much out there.
You'd rather have a defender like Alex Caruso, who's not going to give open drives down the lane like we saw.
When Troy Daniels and Rock John run around, they're having too bad defenders next to each other in the back court is just not a good look for the Lakers, and it's something they're kind of stuck with right now, and they're forced into doing this, so it's gonna be a problem moving forward.
And yes, I'm sure right now I'm gonna look at our chat room.
I'm sure it's filled with people asking about Darren Collison.
And how quickly can we can he get here? Because the Lakers could certainly use somebody like that right about now.
KCP Also, we need to mention off night for him.
One of seven shooting over three from three.
Not his best night.
But at this point, he's built up some equity.
You can give him leeway because he's been so good.
Now, hopefully, this doesn't become a consistent thing, but one bad night.
Not gonna count against him right now because he's been good over all other guys having great nights.
Anthony Davis, 46 points.
He was unstoppable.
The pelicans that number, Nobody that could do anything against him.
He was absolutely tremendous out there.
13 boards, three steals, one block number of just absolutely amazing alley. Oops.
Look, Anthony Davis is really, really, really good.
There's no question they're all right, guys.
So we're gonna go back and forth here.
I'm gonna dive into your questions, your comments, your thoughts and we're gonna talk about this game breaking down walls to talk about the Knicks game coming up for the Lakers.
Uh, let's get into it.
Let's jump right into it and, uh, and see what we got here.
Uh, Joe Dingle died, Said from Facebook, Said I'm worried about LeBron's calf or health overall, the way he left the court quickly after the game.
So if you saw it, here's the thing.
And this is what actually makes me makes me a little bit relieved.
There was contact that LeBron calf injury.
Yeah, when he comes up limping, you're going.
Because of the Lakers lose LeBron, they lose Anthony Davis.
They're in big trouble, no question.
Okay, but which you saw if you saw the replay was you saw Josh Heart when he was playing defense, and this wasn't on purpose or anything.
But Josh heart his his knee and actually hurt hurt LeBron.
Last time they played too hard to knee, went into LeBron's calf.
He kneed him right in the center of the calf muscle.
That could cause the muscle, but not up.
That's what it waas.
So this isn't something where, like when Kobe tour is Achilles, As soon as you saw there was no contact.
It's not good because it means that it's not just a bruise or anything like that.
Something toward in Kobe's case.
Unfortunately, the Achilles with LeBron you can see contact.
You can see an injury that took place.
I'm not too worried about it because it's the type of thing where he didn't tear something in there.
It should be OK.
It should be something they can work out.
I'm not too concerned about it.
Yes, they already have Alex Crusoe out with the calf issue.
But again, I'm not too worried about that one at this point.
And, you know, hopefully not proven wrong on that one.
I've got sorry, guys, these air going by pretty quick here.
People saying Trade Rondo.
Well, that's the thing, guys.
Rondo actually has the ability to veto any trade, and that's because his bird rights would be lost if he was traded because he's on a one year contract right now.
But he already has years under his belt with the Lakers, so if he gets shipped out, he loses his bird rights, which then gives him the ability to veto any trade.
So Rondo KCP, javale McGee All have defacto no trade clauses.
So Yeah, First of all, you can trade him or you can't if he doesn't want to be traded.
Second of all, if you do trade him, you're probably not going to get much for him.
And you're probably gonna have a political battle in the locker room because LeBron a de DeMarcus cousins, a lot of these other guys, they like Rondo.
He's a proven veteran.
He's done some good things in this league, but yeah, look, it's not good.
What he's doing out there on the floor has not been good.
And this is the reason why you need a Darren Collison.
It's to eat up these minutes that Ron was playing because look, earlier in the season, Rhonda was mitigating these issues that he has.
We know he's not a good defender, but if he's shooting like 45% from three, you'll take it tonight.
Rano didn't even take a three.
He was one of four shooting from the field.
All right, if Rondo is not a threat from deep and you're not getting anything out among the defense men and the offense, like a lot of your mentioning right now is completely stagnating.
He's not creating open looks for anybody else.
Then you've got a huge, huge problem.
And it's no wonder that the Lakers bench is just just hemorrhaging points.
It's scary these last two games.
It's just it's gross to watch.
Frankly, when you're watching this Lakers team and you know assumes that bench comes in, you're now seeing other teams perk up as soon as the lakersbench comes in, other teams start getting fired up there.
Yeah, we can't wait to run our offense against this Lakers bench because they know they're going to get opportunities and against a team like the Pelicans, who wants to get out and run at every single opportunity.
Their half court offense isn't great, but they can kind of mitigate that by getting out in transition and running.
And when you have a Lakers offense that's really, really bad, that means they're going to give up transition opportunities.
They're going to take bad contested shots that leads to Mrs Mrs, provide outlet opportunities and and get the pelicans in the transition.
So it's this combination of things where bad Lakers offense turns into fast break opportunities for the Pelicans, where they can take care, take advantage of some bad defenders like Rondo.
So Brando and Troy Daniels and some players like that on the bench unit actually heard of you on both ends of the floor. And it's compounding.
It's a big, big problem.
And that's why you look for a guy like a Darren Collison or someone like that just really quickly breaking down the lakersbench unit.
You've got Dwight, you got Kyle Kuzma.
You've got KCP, right? And then Alex Caruso, we're assuming is gonna be that fourth guy as soon as he's healthy.
There's one common theme here.
Those are all players who need shots to be created for them.
They're not gonna create their own shots.
You're gonna throw the ball to Dwight in the post and say, Here, go, go get us a bucket.
That's not who he is.
That's not even who he was.
When he was, like Dwight Howard, Dwight Howard, Prime Dwight Howard.
He wasn't that good at it, even back then.
Now it's really not a thing that he could do.
Cow coups was not at the point where you can just throw him the ball in the wing and say, Here, go get us a bucket That's not what he does.
He's more of a spot of shooter and a slasher.
KCP is a spot up shooter.
He can occasionally get some runs going off curls.
That's probably the Lakersbench here. It's best offense.
So you need a point guard who can get into the paint and then kick the ball out, draw the defense, get them scrambling and then find open looks.
That's what you need.
And that's not Rondo right now.
Rondo 67 years ago.
Sure, he could do those things.
Right now, it's not happening, and the offense is grinding to a halt.
And I hear you guys so many of you are in here sounding off in the chat room right now, saying that that the offense is hard to watch on that bench unit.
Here's my one thing that I keep coming back to the Oh, this is not a shock to Frank Vogel.
It's not like it's not like he doesn't know this right.
He understands just what else do you do? Who else do you give the ball to when LeBron is off the floor? Do you give it to Avery Bradley and say here, Go play point guard, Yeah, You wish you could use Quinn Cook, but he hasn't been very good.
They don't really have very many other options.
And so, again, this is why the Lakers are looking so hard for a backup point guard on the market.
Whether it's the bio market in the trade market, they know they need to find somebody because this can't continue.
They have to fix this sooner rather than later and especially have to get it done before the playoffs.
So that's gonna be really, really important for them.
All right, guys, let's get back into some more of your questions here.
Vogel's three guard rotations are awful eyes coming in from periscope.
Yeah, I agree they're not good.
But again, what other option is there Who do you have? A unit? Put Dudley in there as the three.
That's probably not gonna work out so well.
He's more of a four than anything else.
So what do you do? Yeah, it's not ideal to run Casey.
He's 65 Paid Crusoe.
65 They're both okay.
Size for guards.
But again, that's not that's that's not gonna work.
So what do you do if you're the Lakers? Well, like I said, you need to go out and find fill these holes.
You need to get your backup point guard, and you need to get another wing.
You need another true small forward that can get out there because the three guard rotations aren't working now.
I think they can.
In some ways, if you're not playing a team with, like a Kawai letter under the honest or somebody like that, you can get by without having a true three up there.
I think if the Lakers had a shot creator on their bench unit, they could get by against the Pelicans.
With KCP out there on the floor as your three, I think you could get away with it.
Okay, you're not going to do it against some of the best teams, but you can get away with it.
What you can't get away with is not having that reserve guard who can create looks for other people.
Gotta find that and maybe that's Darren Collison.
Maybe that is, and you know that's something that that would work pretty well.
If they could get him, I'd be.
I'd be thrilled if they could get Darren Collison because he's a player who could do those things.
And he's a guy who can, uh, he's a guy who would come for free.
You don't have to give up anything to get him in a trade or anything, because he'd be a free agent.
All right, guys, let's get into some more of your comments here.
Uh, Daniel Middleton, from Facebook, said Kuzma may not realize it, but he can distribute needs to describe, distribute and score with second Unit.
Look, Yeah, Kuzma could be a little bit better of a distributor.
I think he is. He does.
He has that skill.
We've seen him pass the ball fairly well.
We don't see a lot of cutting off the ball when Kuzma has it.
He's more placed on an island and asked to kind of go do something or he's already cutting to the basket himself.
He can pass, but that part of his game isn't what's being unlocked right now and that's and that makes sense in his development.
The most important things for him are his outside shooting his slashing in his defense.
If you can get good at those three things, he's gonna be a very effective player.
And then you can add in things like the passing, you know, creating stuff like that.
You can add those things in later on.
Okay, you get those three things done solid, and cruise was gonna be a really good piece.
John Doe LeBron look tired in the second.
This is from YouTube.
They need to limit his minutes yet, And that's the problem.
And we spent a ton of time last night.
If you join me for the Lakers Nation podcast last night, we talked all about it.
We talked about the issue with LeBron's minutes in Anthony Davis's minutes tonight. 37.
Men's for LeBron, 38 minutes for Anthony Davis.
I went 20 some odd points in the third quarter there, Abi.
I want to say 24.
They were a big and heading into the fourth, you had to go back to LeBron.
You had to go back to 80 because the bench could not hold that lead.
That's a problem okay? Yeah.
Look, in an individual game. LeBron James.
He can handle that many minutes.
But as the season wears on those minutes, we're gonna add up.
These are the games like this game against the Pelicans.
LeBron shouldn't have had to step foot on the floor in the fourth.
Same thing with Anthony Davis.
They both should have been under 30 minutes tonight, and yet they weren't because they probably don't win this game.
If they don't step back on the floor, that can't continue.
And here, look, I'm not saying the Lakers bench needs to start blowing teams away.
I'm not saying the Lakers bench needs to get in and immediately go on runs.
That's not what they need.
The Lakers just need a bench that can stay even.
Stay even with the opponent.
Don't get blown out, and the Lakers will be much, much, much better as a team if they can find a bench unit that can just stay even.
And regardless of how they get that done, they get that done by having a great offense off the bench that can score a bunch of points or then get it done just by grinding teams and playing great defense.
Either way, you have to stay.
Even if you could stay, even the Lakers were gonna be in great great shape, Okay? And I think they can get there.
But the bench is gonna need some tweaks.
And I don't think those tweaks are on the roster at the moment.
Winston Green said, Play cook.
Let's see how it goes.
Yeah, Winston, look at this point.
Can't really hurt.
Isn't going to be worse than what we're seeing from Rondo.
I don't blame you for saying Hey, might as well toss him out there and see and see what you can do, right? Tina Demon just said the exact same thing.
I just saw Tina.
I'm right there with you.
Cook couldn't play any worse than Rondo Rondo it.
Look, I'm not gonna presume that this is the best Rondo that we're going to see from here on out.
Runners got better games in and then this.
Okay, I'm not going to just say he's awful.
He can't even get on the floor.
He's had some good games, right? Let's not.
Let's not pretend this didn't happen.
Let's not pretend the good shooting nights didn't happen.
Runners got better in it than this.
But the problem is, when he's bad, it's so bad.
And he's been bad recently that it's Ah, it's become a big problem.
Somebody just made a good comment here and it went by.
Oh, here it is on YouTube sick with you, said Cullison has a nice floor.
That's a great point, its consistency.
And it kind of goes with what I'm just saying right now.
If you have Rondo bad, Rondo is really, really, really bad.
That floor is super low.
Okay, you know, if he's bad, you're in trouble, right? Your bench is gonna have issues.
If he's good, then you're gonna get a pretty good Rondo.
But there's so much variation in there.
It's such a roller coaster that it can make things tough in terms of consistency.
Whereas you've got a guy like Collison, even if he has it off, it's not that bad.
He's pretty consistent, pretty steady, and on a bench unit that needs to just stay even That probably is more valuable than even what Rondo could do.
Um, somebody just asked me and it Ah, it went by.
But somebody just asked me, Trevor, would you rather have Ingram or Kuzma? Brandon Ingram? No question.
And look, I know Brandon Ingram needs to get paid next year.
Uh, Kuzma is still is another year under his belt.
5 million next year.
9 million this year.
Kuzma is way cheaper than Brandon Ingram.
All right, but look at what Ingram is probably the favorite right now for most improved player in the league.
He's been tremendous.
Okay, if I were to say, Kuzma, I'm just being disingenuous.
But if I do that, okay? And I'm not saying Cruz, my can't be good.
I'm not saying I don't like Cosmo or anything like that.
And also, I'm not saying the Lakers picked Koosman over Brandon Ingram because we've talked about this.
We talked about it last night.
I don't believe that's what happened, Okay, but I think Brandon Ingram is.
That would be if the Lakers had Brandon Ingram.
I think they would have a better chance of winning a championship than if they had Kyle Kuzma.
Okay, and then again, I'm not trying to knock Kuba.
Just Ingram has been phenomenal.
All right, and we've been expecting that out of him.
We've seen these bursts out of him and he was okay tonight.
He's actually been a lot better than we have seen him tonight.
Then he was tonight.
He's no better than that in other games this season.
So that's, um, that's, uh, that's important to note.
He's really, really good.
Danny Green has got a lot of people quiet right now.
Yeah, look, we've been saying this guy's We've been saying Danny Green is a better shooter than what we've seen.
Maybe he's not the 46% from three Danny Green that we saw with the Toronto Raptors.
That's gonna be tough to replicate, but Danny Green, when he's hot, can be really good.
He can be hot and cold, but you look at what he did tonight.
He was tremendous.
He was shooting with confidence.
He wasn't waiting.
He was pulling the trigger 9 to 14 shooting, 25 points for Dana Greene.
He has these blow up games every now and then, and yeah, consistency would be great.
But if Danny Green can get to around 40% from 3 41% somewhere in there.
I think you take that.
I think that's the point.
I'm not expecting 25 points a night out of Danny Green.
But if you could get to the point where he's hitting in the low forties from three and he's contributing on a fairly consistent basis, that's where you can look at him.
Say okay, you combine that with his defense with his veteran instincts, thinks okay, that's worth 15 million.
That's where we don't complain so much about what he's getting paid and by the way, is at this moment he's at 37% from deep.
So again, hopefully he can get that up just a little bit.
And nights like this.
Well, certainly hope with that.
A few people asking to LeBron get hurt.
We talked about earlier.
He took a need to the CAF.
Josh Hart kneed him in the CAF.
I don't know that it was all that her.
Certainly it's painful, but I wouldn't say like he's hurt hurt.
I think he's probably gonna be okay, but we'll see what comes out of the post game comments and all of that, Amir Ali said.
Chris Paul will be a Laker this year.
How is his salary is massive? You can't get to within 125% of that contract.
Um, not gonna happen.
Not gonna happen, Juni Barth Les from Facebook said.
I'm really happy for the win, but I'm not happy with some of the bench players.
You'll have to do better in the fourth quarter.
80 and LeBron need to rest.
Agree? Agree. Juni.
These guys need to get the rest of the fourth quarter against some of the worst teams, and, by the way, credit for the Lakers.
They're still like they're like 19 to know Now.
I think against below 500 teams.
That's the way you make the playoffs.
That's the way you get good seating.
It's not by having these huge, miraculous wins over some of the best teams.
The way you get there by beating the teams you're supposed to be that something last year's Lakers did not do.
That's something they didn't do during the rebuild.
That's something that they are doing this year, so credit to them.
I don't want to be so negative about what we've seen for the bench that it completely ruins the the evening or anything like that, right? That it that it It makes us not address how good they were because that was really fun and really exciting.
When the Lakers starters were in, the starters played great, and I'm thrilled to see the offensive chemistry that they're developing.
That's so key for this team moving forward.
That defense was good.
Avery Bradley looks like he's starting to get his legs under him.
No, he didn't have a blowup game like he did against the Suns, but defensively he was very, very active.
So some really good things there, guys.
There's a lot of positives to take away from this game.
I don't want to get too focused on the negative in, even though, of course, we can go a little more in depth into those discussions because we could talk about some fixes other players they can bring in and stuff like that.
But understand that I'm not looking to this game as a complete downer, right? They gotta win, which that's important and then they did some really good things out there.
It wasn't just hey were the more talented team It's a war, the more the more talented team and we're executing on the offense event.
And yet, look, the pelicans are bad defense, and all of that's a factor.
But the bottom line is there still some positives to take away here? Uh, Dylan from YouTube, said, Trevor, can you cut Rondo? Sure you could.
You still have to pay him.
He's not on nonguaranteed contract, but you could cut him if you, uh, if you were so inclined.
That's not gonna happen.
The Lakers aren't gonna cut him.
They would have some really upset players.
Politically, Frank Vogel would have a tough time doing that on and then on top of that look, Rondo does have some good games every once in a while.
And who knows? The Lakers have yet to see playoff Rondo.
Maybe that still a thing.
We'll have to wait till the playoffs to find out, though, Ian Howe said.
Bring back Trevor Arreaza.
That's a name that we've talked about.
If he gets cut loose, maybe he's somebody you look at.
Although he hasn't been great this season, I think there's some guys that should be in front of him, John Marco said.
A slow on defense now, Yeah, look, Danny Green isn't I don't want to say he's slow on defense, that he's okay laterally.
He's just not as quick is Avery Bradley, who's really quick.
It's more noticeable because Avery Bradley does such a good job flying all over the place and same thing with Alex Caruso.
So I think that's part of Yeah, look, it could be Danny Green.
Slow down a little bit.
It happens to the best of us.
When you get into your thirties, it's the way it goes.
But I think we notice it more, too, because of who he's playing with.
So I think that's a factor.
Uh, question here, coming in from Facebook? Is Collison better than Dennis? Shrewder.
It really depends on what you're looking for.
Like if you're looking for a guard who come in and blow up for 20 plus points, Dennis orders, probably.
You're better fit. Okay, he's younger.
He's going to be more explosive.
But if you're looking for a guy who steady who isn't gonna turn the ball over, you can count on who's gonna be consistent.
That's Darren Collison, and I don't want Oh, pump up Collison too much, because remember, he hasn't played since last year.
So even if, let's say February 8th, the Lakers signed him, right, the trade deadline passes.
They opened up a roster spot.
Somehow, the Lakers signed Darren Collison.
Okay, let's say it happens.
He won't have played for almost a year in an N B A game.
It may take a little time, and I think that's one lesson we've learned from this season is that you don't want to write off players right away.
Look at how good Avery Bradley has looked the past past few games where people were jumping all over his case in the weeks right after he came back from injury.
Same thing with Kyle Kuzma.
He stepped up his game.
Since getting back 200% health.
Darren Collison would probably have some rust to knock off.
So if Collison joins the Lakers, and if he comes out and looks rusty in the beginning, you may need to give him a week or two.
You may not need to give him a little bit of leeway.
The reason why we got Rondo's because we saw these issues with Rondo last year.
He he was better the beginning of this season, and now these old issues were starting to crop up again.
And the team is really suffering because of it.
Great. Hopefully he snaps out of it.
But this is now, I'd say 10 rough Rondo games in a row here.
Ah, waltz, Irvin The one.
How about Boogie? Do you think he's coming back before or after the playoffs? I, my money would be on after, but Frank Vogel did make a comment about how they're still hoping that DeMarcus Cousins can come back this season and play.
So Cousins has started.
It was reported today.
Has started doing some light jogging.
We've seen footage of him working out a little bit before Lakers games.
He's been around the team every day.
Same thing, though.
Same thing When he comes back, don't expect him to dominate.
OK, if he comes back, I should say, Don't expect them to step in and dominate.
Expect there to be a lot of rust.
Don't expect him to have lift or explosiveness or anything like that.
It takes too long to recover from this.
Injury becomes bank.
You're looking for short bursts, just filling some minutes as a big man, maybe stretching the floor a little bit and that's about it.
Don't expect them to come in and be this explosive player that can get in there.
And you could run the offense through the high post, the room and all that kind of stuff.
All the stuff we were talking about over the summer before he got hurt.
Don't assume you're gonna get that guy, that guy.
If he comes back at all, we're not going to see until next year, Okay? Because that's just the nature of the beast with this kind of injury.
Arthur Tato, We need to bring in Tucker.
We talked about this last night as well.
Look, Taylor Horn, Tucker.
It looks great in flashes in the D League, but the consistency isn't there.
And I'm not expecting like Rondo.
You expect consistency? He's a veteran.
He's been doing it long enough, right? Taylan Horn.
Tucker is barely 19 years old.
You don't expect consistency out of a kid like that, Okay? He has Hill a great one play, and then he'll make it just a bonehead mistake on the next.
And that's called being 19.
That's just That's the way it goes, great.
But the flashes we've seen are really, really impressive.
He's got some special stuff, okay? But I'm not expecting anything out of this year.
Not okay next year.
Maybe maybe he gets his legs under him.
But if he gets on the floor at all this year and contributes, I will take it as a pleasant surprise.
I'm not looking at this as he's going to come in as the savior or anything like that.
Okay, that's putting too much on him at this point, Anthony Nasi says from Facebook.
We just need to load manage Ronda until the playoffs.
Just say he's under load management protocol.
Skip ahead to the playoffs for him, and then you can unleash playoff Rondo on the n ba.
All right, Fair enough.
Enough of question from Facebook.
Trevor, what do you think about our coach now? Frank Vogel.
I still like him.
I think he's done a great job this season.
I don't so what? I'm looking at that I know we're all complaining about the bench rotation and all that.
When you're looking at the bench.
I'm looking at that rotation that he's got in there right now.
And I keep coming back to What's the fix, right? I mean, like, when we look to Luke Walton, we said, OK, player development is your is your main job before LeBron James came into town.
So that means D'Angelo Russell needs to be playing in the fourth quarter.
That means Lonzo Ball needs to be playing in crunch time.
These guys need to be getting the minutes, and when those minutes, we're goingto other players, we could be frustrated because, okay, clearly, here's the fix.
Put these guys in.
I look at what's happening with his bench unit, I think.
What do you do? You do? If you're Frank Vogel, you could try to mix up your rotation a little bit.
But even LeBron with those guys wasn't really getting it done.
Even LeBron with Brando out there on the floor wasn't getting it done.
So if you're Frank Vogel, you're in a tough spot.
There's no one else who can really handle the basketball out there when Alex Caruso is hurt.
And if you're not gonna go to Quinn Cook and maybe you make that argument that you could go to Quinn Cook.
But overall, I think Frank Vogel is still done a really good job with this team.
I think he's just stuck in a tough spot with the bench.
You know, that's not performing with a Rajon Rondo that's not performing and no other real options to turn to.
And that's a big part of why we've heard the Lakers.
Their organization is looking for a backup point guard.
That is their number one priority before the trade deadline or in the bio market right after.
That's what they're looking for.
And again, Terry Color said, Come on down.
I think you'd make a nice difference.
Shane Howerton from Facebook.
I was happy with our total game.
What I don't like is how we are giving a complete game or two halves or 4/4.
Yeah, look, um, the inconsistency can be frustrating within the game.
You just have to hope that the Lakers can start putting together Ah, full 48 minute game or even if they put together 45 minutes or 44 minutes where they're playing at a high level.
You have to hope that they can start doing that against some of the better teams, sometimes focusing against some of the lower level teams, especially when you've got a big lead.
That could be difficult, but the hope is that eventually it'll start happening for the Los Angeles Lakers, Alvin Dover said.
Do you release to Marcus Cousins for Iguodala? If the Lakers think that cousins can come back this season, I'd say No.
I'm looking at Queen Cook.
I'm looking to Troy Daniels.
Those are the guys that I would consider releasing right now.
I think you hang onto the markets, cousins.
I detailed this question a little bit.
I went a little more in depth into this question on the podcast last night.
You can check that out on Apple podcast if you want, but I, uh right now I would go with you, Troy Daniels or Quinn Cook.
Those are the guys that I would cut Pablo Diaz daily on from Facebook, saying Dennis Schroder cost nearly 18 million.
Yeah, Look, that's the problem.
How do you match that salary? You can't really OK, Rob Blake is gonna have his hands tied behind his back a little bit because you don't have the salaries to send out there in the trade.
KCP javale Rondeau Have those no trade clauses de facto no trade clauses.
Okay, It's gonna be tough.
Your best trade chip, Kyle Kuzma, which the report came out today from shops Caronia That teams you're calling teams to calling about Kyle Kuzma and they're they're trying to see if they can pry him away from the Lakers.
Problem is the only makes 1.9 million.
So let's say you decide that you need a backup point guard so bad that Dennis Schroder would be great.
You just want to swap Kuzma for shooter.
You can't do it because of the math.
Because Cruz was making 1.
9 million intruders.
Making what? 18.
It doesn't work.
What could we get for Kuzma in a trade? That's the big question.
That's the problem that you've got because most teams air hitting up the Lakers trying to get Kokou, zoom away from them.
Assuming that the Lakers want win now pieces.
And so if you're a team that knows you're probably not a playoff team, you're not a contender.
You're gonna go to the Lakers.
You're gonna say, Look, I've got these wind now.
I've got players who are ready to go and compete right now, but they're at the older end of the spectrum.
We'll give them to you.
You give us Kyle Kuzma will develop him.
Look, you, Karl Kruse, we could play another 10 years in the N B A, at least if not more, right? So if you're the Lakers, you have a way that do we give up 10 possible years with Kyle Kuzma for a guy who might be a better fit right now, But again, the challenges If you're bringing in a guy who is a good fit right now, who's performing right now, who's a veteran in the MBA, eh? NBA.
Most likely, they're making considerably more than 1.
Some matching salaries gets really, really difficult there, so that's gonna be the challenge.
It's not just a question of who could the Lakers get that could help them if they trade Cale Kuzma.
It's who, logistically, can they even get who can they make them make the money work with? That's gonna be just as big of a challenge as getting the right fit the right talent and all that.
That's why it's gonna be really tough for them to trade Kyle Kuzma here, huh? I don't have his salary.
I've got Monte Mull Taani from Facebook.
Can we get dollars? Burton's I don't have his salary pulled up right in front of me.
Um, I can look that up and see what he's.
And as I recall, he was making a decent amount for the Wizards.
And so that would make things a little bit tough.
If you're trading, say, like, a cooze murders somebody like that for him. Yeah.
Thomas Burton expiring contract making seven million.
So, like, that's not impossible.
You could do it.
But from what we've heard, if the Wizards they're gonna trade him, they're gonna try and cash out on him.
He's been tremendous this year, and so they're gonna want quite a bit.
And I don't know, the Lakers can give that up because they don't have any first round picks to offer.
And the next second round pick that they had offers four years from now.
So if you're the Wizards, what are you going to take for Davis Bird sounds from the Lakers? I don't know it's gonna be tough to see a few people saying, Give Kay **** a chance And Ivonne ck ****er has been been really, really good in the D League.
But a big right now isn't really with the Lakers need now.
If they wanted to say load managed white or load managed a veil bring up giving some minutes.
I could definitely see that Mel on condo from Facebook.
Rondo is already old Trevor.
Please insist the Lakers to hire the surfaces of Collison.
We need a legit point guard to start.
Yeah, look, if Collison calls up the Lakers and he says, I want to come to you, I want to go to your team, not the Clippers.
And by the way, I think there's a number of reasons why he should pick the Lakers over the Clippers.
Yeah, I'm biased, but still, I think that it makes a lot of sense for Collison to go to the Lakers and not the Clippers.
For a few reasons, one of them being the Lakers can pay more because they have that DeMarcus cousins disabled player exception.
They also I have a better role for him than what the Clippers could provide a clear role to immediate minutes.
Go do the things that we thought maybe Rondo could do for us, right? And so eso Color said.
I think that if he's willing to come, the Lakers should absolutely sign him.
I'm there with you.
Let me get into just a few more of these and then we'll, uh, we'll call it a night, Travon Johnson said.
Rumors say that Cooze is from YouTube.
Guzman is wanted by other teams, but Lakers said he's a key part of the course of my question is, was that said to drive his value up a little more, or does he really fit the timeline? Um, this is my spin on it.
I think the Lakers putting out there, that he's part of the core.
Yeah, that doesn't hurt his value.
But it helps you in a few ways, right? So the Lakers saying they want to keep him.
Obviously if they say we don't really want it, that much trade value goes down right.
So no sense in saying that right on the gates.
But also if the Lakers say no, we still see Cruz is part of the core.
They put that out there and that gets back to Cruz MMA.
He's gonna feel better about it, right? He's gonna feel good about himself that hey, look, the Lakers are still they still believe in me.
They believe I'm part of this, but at the same time them saying he's part of the core, they know that not only is it going to be tough to get the right piece in for him logistically because of a salary, it's gonna be tough to trade him. Period.
It's gonna be tough to make the math work on a trade.
So why not put out there that? No, it's not that we can't trade.
And so we really don't want to trade him where it's not like, Oh, it's not that the offer isn't good enough for anything like that to treatments that we see him as part of the young core.
It's gonna be really difficult to trade Kaku asthma because of the math, all right, because of all these other things that we're talking about.
So it makes a ton of sense from a number of different levels for the Lakers to put out there that Kuzma is part of the young core and part of that man may just be.
They really believe that, too, that they really see him as a piece to the future.
And all indications are that they do, right? This is the boy who lived.
This is the guy who was not traded for Anthony Davis.
So it makes a lot of sense for them to feel strongly about keeping Count Koosman.
Maybe that changes between now and February 6th, which is the trade deadline.
Okay, maybe, But for the moment, there was no reason for them not to put out there that Kyle Cruise was the guy that they want to keep.
Okay, a few more.
Carol's Urbano says no trades.
This Lakers team is really good.
I don't think you need a massive overall here.
You just need a little tweaks.
Like I said, you need two things.
You need that backup guard and you need another wing defender.
If you can get those two things.
Especially if that backup guard can create looks or score themselves, preferably do both.
If you can find those two pieces, I think the Lakers become the favorite to win it all.
And maybe they are already okay.
But I think the Lakers really step up.
If you can get those two things in, it would make a big, big difference for this team.
Ah, Few people saying we don't need anyone else.
Look, the Lakers can get it done, as is.
They can. That's possible.
But I feel a lot better about it if they had these things because look, we're seeing it right now.
We're seeing teams get excited about playing against the Lakers bench.
We're seeing teams that aren't giving up because they know if they keep pushing soon enough, that venture's gonna come in and they're gonna be able to go on a run.
And maybe they're able to steal one of the end.
Okay, that's becoming a consistent theme where teams are not packing it in.
When the Lakers are a big because they know at some point that bench is gonna come in and they're gonna light them up.
That's a problem that has to stop.
Okay, You go into the playoffs like that, you're in trouble.
So again, I'm not saying the Lakers can't get it done, as is.
They can LeBron Anthony Davis or that good, but I would feel much better about their chances if they had those pieces to solidify the bench.
Oh, man, don't even say that's from Facebook, Nico, Step A said.
The worst thing that could happen is Cosmo being traded for a box of cookies.
Allah Mike Musk, Ulla.
Don't even say, Let's let's not go there.
Let's not talk about that.
That it beats a zoo bots trade giving him away for Mike Musk.
Let's Yes, please.
Let's not make a trade like that again.
That would be That would definitely be rough.
Uh, somebody mentions from YouTube. Lou Williams.
Yet? Look that that's what.
If the Lakers had Lou Williams, I'd say they'd be the title favorites.
That's exactly what they need.
Okay, a Lou Williams type player.
All right, guys.
Couple more than America, Lida and evening.
Especially since we went so long on the podcast last night from you to trade Danny Green for Covington.
I don't know that the Timberwolves make that trade properly.
Don't coming to receive really good.
Uh, look, the temple was my trade Covington, but they're gonna get a lot in return.
He's in high demand.
There's a lot of teams. They're gonna be after him.
Okay? He's a three and D wing defender can play please at a high level.
He's a good player.
Okay? There's gonna be a bidding war If they put Covington out there on the market.
I wouldn't assume that the Lakers have enough assets to go get him.
Peron said the Lakers need another Michael Cooper.
To a degree, I think you need somebody who can defend those big players.
Maybe that's an Andre Iguodala.
I think he'd be a great fit.
Ah, three and D Wing would be ideal if you can get somebody who could do those things.
I just had somebody comments from Facebook.
The pelicans won the trade.
What? What did you see happen tonight that suggested that Anthony Davis went nuts And maybe that was maybe that was sarcasm.
And the Anthony Davis put a 46 and 13.
Yeah, I'm not looking to this as oh, they wanted look, eight years from now, if these guys were still playing an Anthony Davis is on the downward swing.
Maybe then you can say OK, looking good.
Brandon Ingram is now or whatever.
But look, I love the young players that the Lakers gave up, but Anthony Davis is a superstar.
And maybe some of these picks the Lakers gave up down the line.
Maybe those come back to haunt them or something.
So, in the aggregate, when you put all those together, maybe it winds up being a lot.
But after a game like this, that's not the opportunity.
The Pelicans won the trade.
I don't think so.
All right, last one that we're gonna get to last one Here.
I'm gonna find a good one toe finish on just to, ah, end the night scrolling through.
There's gotta be a good one here.
All right, here we go.
Terrence Jang said the coaches aren't going to trust young guys.
We need veterans.
Yeah, Look, I mean, when you've got coaches who rely on and especially defense right now in the n b A, you've got to be on a string.
Everybody has to be connected.
Everybody has to do the right thing at the right time.
Everybody has to make the right reads.
If one guy doesn't, the whole thing could fall apart.
Okay, We've seen that time and time again.
Kyle Kuzma turns his head way or gets back door cut, everything falls apart.
Okay, That tends to happen more with young players because it's it takes longer for them to read the game.
So, yeah, if you're gonna trade somebody or if you're gonna pick somebody up, I'd imagine the Lakers probably won't be going for a young player.
First of all, young players typically command Maurin trade because they have mawr years ahead of them.
But I just think it's something where the Lakers most likely And this isn't just because of their coaching staff.
They're gonna look for veterans who are ready to win right now.
That's the way their teams set up.
They they're finding success with that.
I think if you're looking at guys and you're going through the list of all the players the Lakers could target, Look at the guys who have at least a few years under the belt under their belt.
Don't look at the super young players.
Doesn't make a lot of sense for the Lakers to go after those guys at the moment.
All right, guys, I want to thank everybody for coming on here.
Um, appreciate all of you coming in whether you're coming in from from Facebook, from YouTube from periscope, great questions, great comments.
And, uh, look, this is always a lot of fun getting to talk after the games break everything down.
I know there's frustration with the bench, but again, bottom line Lakers got the wind.
They looked really good.
Their offense look really good with the with the starters, and there's a lot to look forward to moving forward here.
Lakers will take on the Knicks in just a few days, so I'm excited for that.
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