Welcome into the Lakers Nation postgame show.
My name's Trevor Lane from Lakers nation dot com.
And today we're gonna break down the Lakers.
Yeah, they did lose this 11 11 to 10 Ford's in Milwaukee Bucks second loss in the first time all season.
They've lost two in a row, dropping the record to 25 5 We're gonna talk about what happened.
We're gonna break everything down If you're frustrated with this.
When you came to the right place, you convince we can commiserate.
We can talk about what went wrong in this one. What they could do better.
We're also going to talk about what went right What the positives were so lot to dive into.
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Chris, how you doing, man? Ah, well, that was a little tough.
It was a little tough.
I'm sure you're feeling it too.
Uh, I was hoping that we would come out and give a better fight than we did.
But it was the tale of two House.
I mean, that first half, we didn't take care of the ball.
They missed a lot of defensive rotations.
And then, I mean, you got Johannes who's just like this specimen like I've never seen.
I mean, that Euro step he did my first out.
I may have seen it before, but it's insane.
How do you stop that? So, uh, I just I mean, it's a little are breaking to lose like this, but like, we were kind of texting that before.
This is the last day or their last game of a long road trip, you know, semi long road trip and, you know, they just didn't have in the first half.
But the second half was very encouraging to see how when you look at the numbers of the final box score, I mean, they weren't too far off many of the categories.
I thought that got killed in including the three point three pointers bait and, you know, rebounds.
The one stat that definitely stands out.
The four they played.
Milwaukee is just incredible defensive Yeah.
I mean, look at the final turnovers.
18 for the Lakers.
That's pretty high for them.
They had 14 gets the Pacers, and I was okay with that.
18 is pushing, especially against a team like the Bucks.
See, here's the thing.
You get into a game like this against a really good team, and Milwaukee played excellent team basketball tonight.
All of their rotations were very crisp on the defensive end.
But here's the thing.
When you play a good team, the bad habits that you have, the things that you could get away with against a team, like, say, the Atlanta Hawks, you can't get away with against the Milwaukee Bucks, or, more accurately, they won't let you get away with them.
What's gonna happen is when you make a mistake, they're going to capitalize on it.
They're going to make you pay for it.
You miss a rotation against the Hawks are a team like that.
I don't just pick on the Hawks, but the Hawks are the magic or somebody like that.
Sometimes they won't capitalize on it.
They won't make you pay for it.
The Bucks will make you pay for just about every time.
And so we saw that play out.
Ah, lot in the first half.
It was not pretty.
And I think a lot of what we saw, you know, I don't want to make excuses for the team or anything, but certainly a factor here was the fact that this is the fifth game of the five game road trip.
The Lakers were tired, and they did look like they had some heavy legs out there.
Yeah, and you know, again, we had no coups, Ma.
And it's like you said, a lot of Miss defensive rotations in when you miss rotations against a team like the bucks, they're gonna make you pay.
And they made us pay from three point land.
I mean, thank God for Danny Green tonight.
Any green really stepped up.
I think he finished with six or seven threes, but we didn't have him.
I mean, it would be, I think he probably made up most of our three pointers.
I mean, I don't have the numbers in front of you, but what do you think? Yeah, I mean, looked any green.
It's interesting with Danny Green.
Really? Because you've got seven threes from green the Lakers wait 12 on the night, so he had he had more than half of the Lakers three's.
Danny Green did.
And you think about the other game where Danny Green really stepped up.
That was the first game of the season against the Clippers.
He seems to show up in these big games, and this is part of what the Lakers brought him in for.
No, Neither one of those games turn into a Lakers win, but 21 point you get 21 points and seven of 12 from deep out of Danny Greene.
This is the game that Lakers fans have been clamoring for in regards to Danny Green.
So many people have been complaining about how he's been kind of lackadaisical or at least taking a back seat, not taking a whole lot of lot of shots.
And yet here he is, putting up 21 points in a big game.
So I thought Danny Greene had a really nice game and was impressed with what we saw from him.
Yeah, and honestly, I wasn't I'm not too surprised by this from Danny Green cause I didn't watch too much of the Spurs before this But, I mean, I know one uninterrupted.
Skip Bayless talks about all the time.
Danny Green will disappear, sometimes for multiple games at a time.
But he'll also come through in these big moments like this.
He's just one of those guys who really, maybe rises to the occasion and the big moments or very streaky.
But, you know, I feel like he's definitely gonna come in, come up big force in a big games throughout the season, so it's definitely still.
I mean, I just wish we could obviously get it on a game in game out basis.
But, you know, like I said, if we didn't have him out there tonight, we would have probably lost a lot more. Yeah, certainly.
Now, when we're looking at this game and you're seeing how far down the Lakers were at halftime was that Did you think the game was over at this point? Like I, I wasn't expecting the Lakers to battle back in.
So all said and done, I thought I was fairly pleased with the way that the Lakers competed, especially in the second half.
But did you think they were in big, big trouble at the end of the first half.
Did you think it was just going to turn into a blowout at that point? Well, I did get worried.
Actually, the first happened.
What this makes me think about, actually is our Lakers team from last year and even the previous Someone years where when we get down by a tremendous amount like that in the first half.
But we're just playing like that.
You automatically just kind of riding off like, Oh, boy, we're not winning this.
But the beautiful thing is is that we come back from that third quarter and you're once again reminded that No, this isn't the Lakers team from last year or the year before.
We've got, like, a dope squad who's gonna come out and we're gonna like, you know, we're gonna make adjustments.
We're gonna play, you know, we're gonna come out in the third quarter working a battle on, you know, that's what they did.
They made it a battle in the third quarter.
So, uh, you know, again? Yeah, we ended up losing in the end, but I was very encouraged by the fact that they were.
It'll remind me that you know we are a championship contending team.
We're a good team in the n b A.
This season and that we're not just gonna get just because we have a bad first happens.
I mean, we're not gonna come out and at least make it close, if not even beat the Yeah, Look, they made the bucks really work, that's for sure.
The Bucks didn't just get two crews.
They didn't get to just rest everybody or anything like that.
The Lakers came out, made it real contest, and that's a credit to a Lakers team that's tired, that they still had that kind of of will to get back and fight their way back into this game if it wasn't for some threes from yon.
And by the way, I think a big part of this game was the fact that you're honest was hitting threes.
I mean, you know, Santa to Coop.
05 of eight from three.
And then on the flip side, Anthony Davis over six.
You switch either one of those a little bit like that.
I mean, if Jonas is, say, three free and Davis's three first *** or two for six, right, that that much of a swing would be enough to change this outcome and change the way this game looks.
So I think that was a big part of the game, was the fact that you're honest hit threes? Anthony Davis didn't Neither one of them is known as really a three point shooter.
Not say that that was, you know, the entire outcome of the game.
But I think that was part of the equation here.
But the other thing I'm looking at is the Lakersbench had four points total.
Hell, lakersbench had four points.
This starters did everything.
KCP had a great game.
18 points, three assists, 21 for Danny Green, 21 for LeBron James, 36 for Anthony Davis, four for JaVale McGee.
Then, looking at the lakersbench, you had two for Dwight Howard to for Rajon Rondo and zeros across the board for everyone else.
That can't happen if you're a team that wants to contend for a championship.
Yeah, and that's really troubling, stat.
And I'm glad you actually brought that up because you have the bench did not compute tonight.
I mean, what did you say? They came up with 4.
4 point four points of the night, Well, and that's troubling.
And then when you add into it like you were talking about Johannes, Johannes alone outscored LeBron and a D in the first half.
So when you're battling these two things, when you got Janos, who's outscoring are two main stars? And then you got the bench only coming up with four points.
It's, you know, it's no wonder we came out to the result that we had tonight, and you know, those couple things are disappointing.
But again, you know, they did at least pick it up in that second half, so I'm not completely discouraged from this from their output tonight.
Michael Bloom, on Facebook here, is making a comment in our chat, saying, I wish a D could arrested Yeah, Anthony Davis 43 minutes when he normally comes out of the start of the fourth quarter.
He kept playing.
Vogel left him in there.
Now he had the last game off due to the ankle injury.
But 43 minutes is that too much? Should they have have reined in Anthony Davis a little bit? Or did Vogel make the right call to try to keep him in there and see if they could work their way back into this game.
Well, I like it just for the sake of our entertainment and the competitive will of these competitors, because a lot of times you got to see guys opting out for the littlest thing.
But, uh, you know, coming off of an ankle injury, I would say that's a bit much.
I mean, I understand it's an important game, but remember, we're still in December and we gotta think big picture here.
But I think everybody was just so psyched up for this match up with it being a potential finals preview that, you know, a d wanted to come out, you know, even if he wasn't 100% and just give whatever he could.
And I would like to see him with far less minutes that a lot.
But then again, in the moment, you know, we still were feeling like we might be able to make a comeback.
I mean, I think both of you and I got pretty optimistic, especially in the fourth quarter.
But, you know, Yeah, I was thinking they might be able to get get back into this thing But then the Bucks kept coming up with big shots, and this was this was the difference, really.
The Bucks other guys made place.
The Lakers, other guys.
A lot of them didn't so, like when the Bucks needed a basket, Yonas had it was in foul trouble.
He had four or five fouls.
At this point, they could throw the ball into Brook Lopez.
And no, Brook Lopez isn't gonna give you 29 but he can score in the post in a pinch, right? Like if you need a basket, you can throw the ball to him and he could score.
The Lakers don't really have anybody else like that.
George Hill was another one who is really, really big for the Bucks tonight.
He had 21 points off the bench, seven of 12 shooting, which obviously, you know, that somewhat cancelled out by Danny Green going for 21.
But still, you had these other guys on the books that were able to create offense and at least keep themselves close to even when Johannes was out.
Whereas the Lakers, when they had LeBron out or a D out, it just would kind of fall apart because you had guys who couldn't really do much.
And so that's, you know, people were getting on my case.
When I put out that video about what the Lakers can do on the trade market, I wasn't suggesting there should be a trade.
Okay, I wasn't suggesting that they need to go out there and trade a bunch of guys because they've been doing well.
I'm not saying they have to make a trade, but things like this are what you tried to shore up on the trade market.
We think they need another wing defender.
We saw moments where KCP and Alex Caruso were getting switched on. The honest.
That should not be happening right.
But the Lakers don't have that many wing defenders.
And then you have moments where the Lakers just couldn't score off their bench.
They have trouble generating points, and that's where you could use another microwave style scorer.
And maybe those are things that you go explore on the trade market.
Maybe there things that you find find on the bar by upmarket.
I'm not saying they can't win without those things, but I think this game really put a spotlight on those two areas and why the Lakers might want Toby might want to consider making a move before the deadline in order to kind of fix those areas.
Yeah, that's doubly something to think about.
And I mean tonight I think another thing that it's worth bringing up.
It's the way the Bucks defended the Lakers.
I mean, they built a wall in there.
I think you remember that first half.
Any time they tried to get into the paint, it was either getting swatted or, you know, they were just, you know, interfering with shots and they made it really tough is like they built the wall in there with Lopez and Johannes.
And But to go back to your point with three point shooting, I mean, this is definitely something we need to look out we haven't had.
We've said this before and will say it again.
We don't really have excuse me that Lou Williams type of score and I understand Cruz is supposed to be that.
But he hasn't, you know, just but what we've seen a cooze, he's not.
He hasn't stepped into that yet, really, and we don't feel confident likely would, or we should for him in that position, so hopefully we can get some more deadeye snipers through this.
Traded that if they do plan to be active on the trade market.
Yeah, I'm sure they'll look.
The issue is finding the right pieces to move.
You know, obviously you know performances like this or why you have a guy like Danny Green and people have been calling to trade him.
You know, I don't know if you do it.
If you could expect Danny Green to step up against the really good teams.
That bodes well for the Lakers playoff chances.
But I don't know what exactly you move that has value, especially when you don't have a first round pick that you can trade to really bolster their lineup.
But it's something to keep an eye on.
Maybe there's some things that they could do around the edges to kind of shore up some of this just because this game did kind of exposed some of those those issues.
But that said again, this is like the game, the last game against the Pacers.
The phasers had some ridiculous shots.
They hit some just fade away's falling out of hounds from three that happened to go in.
That happened a few times.
There were a few just off balance shots that that win it.
And that happens sometimes.
The bucks, you know, is young.
It's gonna hit five of eight from three, every single lighter.
They're gonna shoot 41% from deep every single night.
They're a very good team and they could beat the Lakers other ways.
But I'm saying this isn't this huge gap where the Lakers should be panicked right now, either.
So I don't think you have to make a trade.
I don't think it's desperation thing, but I think it's at least something that's worth exploring, just to see if you can fix some things here and there.
But anyway, I thought that the Lakers did a really nice job when they came out of playing with some energy.
But we've been talking about this for a while.
The teams come out the Lakers like it's a playoff game.
I felt like the Bucks approach this almost like it was a finals game.
They had some of the Lakers top place scouted.
You saw them read the lob from KCP to Anthony Davis the spin by LeBron James in the paint.
They had all the encounters ready for all of those things, and it felt like this was a very, very prepared bucks team.
Um, this is the type of thing the Lakers were gonna expect to see in the playoffs.
And so I think this is This was a good test for them.
I hate losing, but, Chris, I think in the long run, it's battles like this that are ultimately gonna help the team.
Oh, yeah, and like, you're like, you're just saying trip.
I mean, the bucks were highly motivated tonight, probably even more so than the Lakers.
I mean, both teams lost going into this game as we know.
It was really interesting.
And they have, actually, they had completely 24 for both teams had records of 24 4 and, you know, they definitely approach.
I mean, you know what this game felt like to me.
It felt like to go back to how we use our wrestling metaphors.
It felt like a wrestling pay per view today, you know? I mean, it felt like it felt like a pay per view in basketball terms like you stop everything, you watch this game and this game meant something.
So the bunks, I think they really they approach his game, you know, they lost the last one.
They came in like, super focused.
And, like you said, they read the scouting report and they knew exactly what the Lakers were gonna bring home.
But again, I'm not discouraged.
Yeah, you can't be.
Shouldn't be discouraged at this point.
May look 24 5 The Lakers are still a tremendous team they've had.
This was a long road trip.
They finished with two tough games and it's not going to get easier.
They've got the Denver Nuggets coming up and then you've got the Clippers after that on Christmas Day. Some big matchups.
But this was in a lot of ways, putting this game at the as the last game off a long road trip.
They've been on the road forever.
The players have talked about it.
They talked about how it feels like they've been playing every single game away from home lately and they haven't been able to get home that matters and again don't want to make excuses or anything like that.
But all of these things we've been talking about the three point shooting from the Bucks, the poor three point shooting from the Lakers, the turnovers.
The defense of the Bucks played right.
All of these things added up and Cem, Cem poor officiating us on, especially in the first half.
It all added up to create this win for the Bucks.
Hey, these things are all factors.
The Lakers. Being tired is certainly part of it again.
We don't want to make excuses for them.
We're just trying to explain what it is that created this outcome.
And it's all of those things combined.
Yeah, and again, I think we'll bounce back stronger after this.
I mean, this is gonna be a important stretch for us, because again, it's kind of like the measuring sticks of the N B A.
We got the We had Milwaukee tonight and we're you know, I know we got a Denver on Sunday, but then we got our big Clippers matchup.
So after that Clippers matchup, I think we're gonna have a clear picture of exactly where we are and I again I think it comes down to really three teams.
It's gonna probably be the Bucks, the Lakers and Clippers in the end.
And you know, another thing that we need to keep into account is the fact that this pretty much I big 90% of this Milwaukee Bucks team has been together.
And the Lakers were still, you know, I know we're getting into about 1/3 of the way into the season, but this Lakers team is still, you know, they haven't had a full season like the Bucks have been really jelling all that.
So I mean, you know, I I don't want us to, you know, not keep that in mind as well.
Yeah, that's a good point.
You know, credit to the to the box.
Their defensive rotations were tremendous, and obviously they've been the best defensive team in the league.
And so they're known for having a good defense.
But I was impressed by how just cohesive their defense was.
They were all moving together on a string.
Everybody knew exactly when they should rotate over to help.
And when one person rotated over to help, you had other guys that were playing up.
Look, Kyle Korver even look good defensively in this buck system.
And Kyle Korver is not a good individual defender.
Right at this point, I believe he is 57 years old at this point. Cal Core.
And he still was coming up with some big stops.
This team, this Bucks team again, credit to them.
They played tremendous defense.
They hit their shots.
They first forced turnovers.
They got out and ran.
Yonas had amazing game.
They did what they needed to do in order as long as they could, but they just couldn't quite keep up.
So again, credit to them.
In the defense that they played the Lakers defense was just a step behind and Lakers have a very good defense.
But when we talk about how they haven't hit their ceiling yet, this is what we're talking about.
They've got another level of cohesiveness they can get to, and that just comes from experience.
It comes from playing together.
Yeah, and you know one thing to add to that Travers.
You're right about the defense.
But I would also say that, you know, just watching it.
Their offense looked like they just made that one extra pass more than we did, too.
So it's like they don't not only didn't miss their defensive rotations when it came to offense, they were just They had a little bit more continuity unless you know they were making the extra pass.
And those are all things again for a team that was thrown together in September.
Those air still things that need to be developed by the team.
But you can kind of see through the Bucks what happens when you have a group of guys who have been been able to play together for an extended period of time or over a few seasons? Yeah, for sure it matters it, man.
It takes time to develop chemistry.
The Lakers have been developing faster than we expected them to, and so that's kind of raised the expectations for them.
But you go against a team that's been together for a while, and you can see there's still a difference between where the Lakers rat and teams that have been together for a long time.
Let's dive into some fan questions here.
I love this, Tommy Cortez said from Facebook, said.
I'm so mad at this loss.
I'm calling in sick to work tomorrow, Tommy, I love it. That is perfectly.
There is nothing wrong with that.
What's the weather whatsoever? You take that mental health day, Tommy.
And you know what? If they if your work gives you any grief, tell him to call me.
I'll say that I gave you present permission.
I will write you a note if all is good, Tommy, you take that day off, man.
Yeah, Tommy, I feel your body.
I feel your pain.
Take take that day off and, uh, let's and then we'll all get through.
Get through this.
Norman Lo said they shut down my boy Caruso, and then he included a crying emoji. Yeah.
I thought he actually did better than I would have expected on Eunice onto Taku Po.
We saw KCP get enough.
Rondo got nothing.
Basically, that was one of my issues.
Vogel has done an amazing job all season.
But one of the things I didn't like was how willing they were to switch on the honest.
You can't do that.
If you put KCP on yon issue.
Put Rondo and Yonas.
It's almost like a guaranteed two points.
I would imagine the points per possession when those guys are switched on to him is probably something ridiculous like 1.
6 points per possession or something like that.
But Caruso did a fine job, but offensively, yeah, was not good.
Not good at all.
Zero points for For Alex Caruso, Captain America certainly was not.
It was not feeling the Super Soldier serum tonight, at least on the offensive end of the floor.
Um, Jason Nam says missing Koosman is worth the worst.
The missing blood.
So we should mention that, right? The Bucks? We're not a full strength, either.
They were missing Eric Bledsoe, who's a pretty good defensive guard in his own right.
Dante De Vincenzo did.
It did a great job in the draft.
Year before last, I was wanting the Lakers to get him.
I was hoping they would.
He seemed like a very Lakers esque player to go after, but he was tremendous, but they were missing Eric Bledsoe, so that's something to consider.
Neither one of these teams were full strength.
So the next time we see these two teams play, this game could look very, very different.
Yeah, and Eric Bledsoe has, like, I think, a reputation for really tearing the Lakers and you want everything.
He has done that, right? So I'm bad memories there, man. Exactly.
That's what I mean.
So Eric Bledsoe not Yeah, I mean, we didn't have we didn't have Who's dating that? Bledsoe? As far as I'm concerned, that pretty much averages out.
I mean, I'm not sure how much I mean the way cruises have been playing, I'm not sure he's a bigger piece of blood.
So, you know, is to them you don't mean cause, right? I mean, Frank Vogel has cut down on cruises before he was even out, he cut whose minutes down, like a lot.
I think he was only playing somewhere around 2022 minutes a game.
So, you know, I think Bledsoe is a bigger piece, but we'll just say it averages out with multiple being out.
Yeah, if I'm taking off my home or glasses, I could say I think Eric Bledsoe right now is a better player than they got.
Of course, mind like, you know, that's that's just, you know, some honest assessment there, and that's not saying cause we can't be good or anything like that.
But I think Bledsoe is is probably a better piece right now, Justin Gereb said.
KCP and Green were awesome tonight.
That's right. They were.
They were very, very good tonight really enjoyed what we saw from from them.
I thought KCP stepped up.
I didn't saw him attack the basket, get a shot to fall over the trees in there.
That was pretty pretty impressive.
I had a pretty good game.
Yeah, they were definitely a bright spot.
It was nice to see KCP come out.
I mean, he's consistent.
He's been pretty consistent lately, So it's nice to see him coming up.
Jake and Danny Green hitting the seven threes.
I mean, they were probably two of the bright spots out of tonight.
If you were to look at the overall Lakers performance, Josh Gaza from Facebook said, Can Cousins be expected to return? So, no.
But Josh, you know one of the things that I was looking at during this game, as I kept thinking, How different does this look if DeMarcus Cousins is a Laker, right, because so much of what the Bucks did defensively was predicated around packing the paint, whereas if you have a big who can shoot threes like cousins can.
That could change the equation quite a bit.
So who knows? Look, obviously, it's a very slim chance, but maybe, maybe if the Lakers and Buck's meet in the finals, Cousins is back.
And that can change things a little bit.
Because would you bail out there with Dwight Howard out there? The Bucks could kind of camp in the paint, and they could do their thing protecting the rim.
I think that changes a bit.
If you have a big out there that can shoot three.
So no, I'm not expecting to. Marcus comes to be back.
But if he is, and even if you could get a few minutes a 15 minutes a night out of him, I think he could have been useful in this game against the bucks.
Well, you know, you made me think of saying that.
All that is Brook Lopez.
No. You remember what you remember.
I mean, wait, you should still be a Laker.
We used to have him.
And he's the epitome of everything.
You just said He's shoots the long ball, so I mean again, we don't need to go back into people that we've traded or whatever our frustrations with that.
But, uh, we kind of had that in Brook Lopez.
But I think they're asking his cousins.
There wasn't pictures of the markets Cousins actually with the basketball on the court this week.
So I guess you know, that might have triggered some optimism.
Yeah, he was doing that.
That was, I think, before the Pacers game, there were some shots of him kind of working out.
Or maybe was it shoot around? Yeah, I think it might have been a shoot around.
So eso cousins was out there kind of warming up with the team, shooting the basketball and everything.
Look, there's a big difference guys between shooting the basketball and playing in a basketball game, right? In terms of especially when you had an A c l injury terms of cutting and moving What? Chris, you know how different it is just just being at a standstill and doing a simple, you know, contained motion vs actually moving and cutting.
That's a really big difference, right? Oh, yeah, and I have had an A c l injury, and I think we might have spoken about it before, but I mean, for him to be able to stay in front of anybody, it's I mean, we're talking.
Ah, year at least.
I mean, I within six months I was able to wrestle, but I didn't have any explosiveness.
And granted, wrestling is very different from basketball wrestling at the dance.
We're working together.
We're working with each other in basketball, you have to stay in front of a guy and you still got a bad wheel or you don't have explosiveness or you can't pivot or cut.
I mean, you're pretty much useless, like so even if cousins could you stand out there and shoot the three, what about him making his way back down court? What about staying in front of people? Can you imagine? Everybody will blow by him.
So I again, I want to stay optimistic to back cousins because it's almost crazy to imagine what what if we had cousins on top of everything else, But, you know, realistically, like you said, I mean, he ain't gonna be able to get out there And, you know, maybe if we retain him and we have him next year, possibly.
But, you know, I have crazier things have happened, but I don't see it.
Yeah, I wouldn't go up, Go and, uh, and assume that cousins is coming back or anything like that.
Just assume that he's not. And then be pleasant.
Tapia's Sean from Periscope said, What's up with that shirt? Trevor's, though.
So I think I'm free from the L.
I was well, still wear that one.
But for a while, the Lakers were winning every time I wore it, so I just kept wearing it.
But then they lost. So now I can kind of makes it up.
This is my purple and gold armchair GM shirt.
So I don't know, I felt like wearing this one.
I've got a bunch of different ones.
All right, I'll rotate through, but I don't feel like I have to wear the l.
Bron wins, so I had to have to mix it up just a little bit.
Well, this is a brand new Laker shirt, So seeing is that I wore it and we lost.
What does that mean? I throw it away or burn it or not wearing on game days of one? No, no, I think what is is you're wearing it before the next game.
So if they win against the Nuggets, that starts a whole new thing.
That's the way accounts moving forward.
It's from from here out.
Let's, Let's not assume that needs to be thrown out just yet.
Let's not go there, okay? Perfect.
Because I really like this top too.
So that would be very disappointing Way don't want that.
Jay Cutler from Periscope is asking why no live stream on YouTube tonight? So we found out about five minutes before we went on that YouTube changed some regulations for live streams.
And so we had to go in and change some settings and apparently just didn't take.
So our system just didn't.
It wasn't sending to YouTube, so it's just not going through right now.
After the show, I'll go on and I'll figure out whatever needs to happen and fix it.
But we had no idea that they were.
They were doing this until just now.
And so, yeah, we thought it might work.
It looked like it was going to, but it looks like the feed is sending out from our end.
YouTube's is not receiving it, so I have to go in and check those.
So don't worry, that is coming back.
We just have to fix the setting and their whatever They went in and changed as far as their requirements.
I'll just I'll take a look at it a bit.
Uh, Edwin Villanueva said.
So are you guys going to watch Star Wars? A Totally different conversation.
I don't think of metal watch.
Star Wars are. I know a lot of people are going to watch it.
But are you into Star Wars? Chris Travel? I'm sorry to disappoint anybody, but as I've told many people about my life, I don't do star anything.
I don't do Star Wars.
I don't do star track.
I don't do any of that.
I don't have anything against it.
It's just that this point there's like like, you know, 110 movies.
So, like for me to actually catch up on all of them.
And you know, I didn't and I didn't show much, much interest in the earlier part of my life, so I know it's not really my thing.
What about you? Yeah, I agree.
Look, I know it's a big movie for a lot of people, and I would you know, I'd be up for going to see it.
But I also have a three year old, and it's it's hard to go get out to a movie.
It's hard to go to go take the wife to a movie when you've got a three year old that isn't gonna sit still through it.
Then you got to find a sitter and all that kind of stuff and life gets in the way.
So I'm sure I'll probably end up watching it when it when it comes home.
But right now, getting to movies isn't, uh, isn't super easy from periscope Falk.
Bobby said Burton would be a great fit, yeah dot a spur.
Towns would be amazing for the Washington Wizards, but he's playing so well.
I doubt they're trading him right now.
Uh, let's see what else we can get into.
A few more rich samples from periscope.
Is Rondo getting too many minutes? And Louise turnovers and defense.
He was pretty bad tonight.
Yeah, this was not a good Rondo night, was it? It was.
It was not a per impressive performance from him.
It seemed like kind of a bad matchup where his defense could get exposed at the same time as he wasn't being given a lot of open space to operate, which is where he excels on the offensive end.
Wasn't a great night for him.
He's had some good performances, though, so I'm hoping that will do.
See a bounce back in the next game.
I'm not ready to write off around completely.
Even though you guys know I'm not the biggest Rondo guy out there.
I think it has actually been pretty good this season.
I thought you loved him. Trace.
I've got his posters all over the place, on my wall and everywhere.
He's the screen saver on my phone.
No, he's not really you.
I thought it was mainly You don't like Rondo and LeBron on court together, but I just don't like Rondo.
It was I don't like Rondo.
If he's not hitting threes with LeBron because he's not facing the floor then that was my issue with Rondo in the broad.
But he's been hitting threes this season, so that's where I've been okay with Rhonda.
But I thought tonight was just not a good performance from him.
But it wasn't just him.
It was a lot of the bench players that didn't have a good game.
So I can't really single him out and say, Oh, clearly, this was just Rondo being terrible.
Uh, I want to see what he does get against the Nuggets.
Can he bounce back and then kind of redeem himself? Because I don't think that's outside the realm of possibility here.
Yeah, you know, travel.
I play a lot of MBA to K, and a lot of the kids will call each other trash.
And basically, that's what our bench was tonight.
You, Rondo, Rondo.
All of them were pretty pretty trashed tonight.
Let's just put it that way.
I mean, not pulling any punches there for sure they were not good.
There's just there's no getting around it.
They didn't step up.
Five turnovers for Rondo two and only two points, minus 11 in the plus minus.
I mean, yeah, I gotta agree with them.
I mean, I haven't felt this negatively towards Wando and any game up until actually this one, probably.
This was, I would say, without having going back and looking at it.
But I would say arguably, this was Brando's worst game of the season.
No, I don't think so.
Uh, let's see. I've got somebody.
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Why don't you talk about LeBron's turnovers? Yeah, LeBron has had some bad turnovers lately.
Okay, there's no question there.
Four turnovers tonight.
He's had some issues with that.
But I think something we have to consider is that he's playing point guard like full time.
You know, he's always been more of a point forward, but right now he is literally bringing the ball up the floor, just about every single possession, right? So he is playing that point guard roll.
He's got the ball in his hands, Aton.
His usage rate is super high.
So when you look at all of that, those are all mitigating factors here.
That's part of the reason why we're seeing high turnovers.
Um, why have you ever played fantasy basketball? You play with turnovers as a category.
The best guy for turnover categories are always guys like like Shawn.
Marion was amazing when it came to the turnovers category because he hardly got any because He never really dribbled the ball.
He was just a catch and shoot guy.
Clay Thompson, right, would be the modern equivalent where he's just kind of catch and shoot, doesn't dribble a lot, doesn't force a lot of passes.
Those turnovers are gonna be low.
LeBron has to orchestrate the offense and some, naturally, he's going to pick up more turnovers and some of the other guys now.
I'm not saying he isn't picking up a concerning amount of turnovers he is.
But I'm saying it's not quite as bad as you would think because of all the things that he's being has to do Well, yeah, I mean, you're asking LeBron is literally handing the ball, handling the ball almost every possession and again, it's like you said, You're just you're naturally gonna get more turnovers when you're have that kind of responsibility But you know, he has had a problem.
I remember it was just maybe a game ago where two games ago, where he set a record for himself in a first up in terms of turnovers at seven.
So I mean it is alarming, but what do you expect? Me and LeBron is always gonna have the probability of high turnovers because again, he's the quarterback.
He's the one having distributes everybody.
And you know, some of the other guys won't have as many I turnovers because, like you said, they're not out there.
They're not where they're not out there as much or they're not as to do as much.
Yeah, and just to throw some numbers that everybody LeBron's usage percentage right now is 32.
5, just pretty high right around his.
His career averages 31.6.
So that's that's up there.
His uses percentage.
But in terms of turnovers, he right now is averaging four turnovers per game, which is Ah, lot.
Of course, we'd love to see that come down.
But season before that was 3.
6 season before that was 4.
On his career, he averages 3.
5 turnovers per game.
This is well, it's at the high end of average for him.
It's still within normal numbers for him, right? This is what he does and I know we said like Lakers fans, we've seen the highlights of LeBron for what, 16 17 years down and when you see those.
He looks infallible, right? Just like if you go back and you watch a game where Michael Jordan is playing, you expect him to hit every single shot.
You expect him to dunk everything.
You expect him to just lock up every single player.
And that wasn't the case.
He missed shots. He got beat.
Sometimes that happens.
But our memory We tended to remember all the really, really, really great moments, right? That's what sticks out.
And so it can kind of color our perception a little bit.
So, yeah, the LeBron turnovers haven't been great, but they're not out of line with what he's done for his career.
Even I think it just kind of feels that way to us right now.
Yeah, and you know, I mean, you only had four turnovers tonight.
I mean, honestly, you were asking me without reading the box for I would have thought for the SATs.
I would have thought it was a lot of fire.
That just must be a testament kind of the way the team looked as a unit, especially in that first half, because, I mean, you know, turnovers were just turnovers were big killer tonight, it might force, you know, that was just it.
But like you said, I mean, LeBron's gonna have turnovers because you know, he's having to do so much.
So you know, he's not perfect on a lot of quips.
You're talking about her just highlight plays that have been isolated, that we're used to seeing so many times and you know of great moments.
But yeah, there's a lot of turnovers and you know, all kinds of various things in between that and let me just underscore because look like turnovers that lead to baskets.
Stick out because they're they're particularly egregious.
Final tally On the night Lakers scored 15 points off turnovers, Bucks scored 17.
That's not had like that.
The turnovers were great.
Don't I'm not saying they were okay.
You know, 18 turnovers is a lot.
There's no question, but it's not as bad as people are making out to be.
I think part of it is they lost by a lot and another part of it's just those things tend to stick out Maurin our minds than other places do.
It's just it's what it is. It's the way our brains operate.
Yeah, and I'm I just go back to that.
What? You're just saying again, I'm encouraged by this live performance on this aspect because when you watch the game that looked like they were getting killed on threes like they were turning up all over so much more, just everything looks so bad.
But then you come around and you look at the box score at the end, and it's like, Wow, Lakers really did such a great job of like closing the gap in all this statistic at its statistical categories.
So I mean, you know, yeah, we lost.
We would have loved to win this one.
But again, when you look at these stats after the game and you see that Oh, they didn't shoot like 15 more threes in S O, they didn't outrebound us by by 10 or 15.
Everything like that.
I mean, you know, we could very easily I think, come back and beat this team when they come back to us to play us in the next one.
Yeah, certain certainly could happen.
Alright, Chris, let's wrap up with this game coming up against the Denver Nuggets, Lakers will finally finally get back home.
What are you hoping to see out of that contest? What should we look for from these Los Angeles Lakers? Well, so tread.
They told us they don't want to lose two games in a row.
And so I'm thinking there especially don't want to lose three games in a row.
So I think the Lakers hopefully are gonna come out extremely motivated for this game in Denver.
Seeing is that they've lost the past to Ana.
You know, I think we handle business.
Last time we went into a temper Active change in Denver.
It's gonna be at home.
Little baby in Los Angeles, finally, Laker to get to sleep in their own beds after five games on the road.
So I'm definitely calling this a W for the Lakers on Sunday.
We got him at home.
They've lost two games, and also we want that momentum to go into our next match up being obviously the Clippers.
I think that this is a game that they can and really should win.
Denver is a good team.
Yokich hasn't been himself, and so hopefully the Lakers could go out there.
But it's not gonna be an easy win.
This isn't this isn't a cakewalk.
This isn't this season's Golden State Warriors or anything like that coming into in L.
This is going to be a battle, but I think it's gonna be a good test for the Lakers heading into that Clippers game.
They're gonna have to be focused on it.
I think after losing two in a row, they're gonna come out fired up.
And so I would definitely like to see a Lakers when the key is gonna be just like it was last time they played the Denver Nuggets cutting down on their their three point shooting, making sure you're getting out closing out on their shooters while while dominating inside.
And they were able to do it last game against the Nuggets.
Hopefully, they'll be able to do it.
This one as well.
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