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00:00:00
Hello Lakers Been welcome in to the Lakers Nation postgame show.
00:00:04
We're breaking down the Lakers unfortunate loss to the Indiana Pacers.
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We'll talk all about it.
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My name's Trevor Lane and senior writer for Lakers Nation Dr Up Time Energy drinks.
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How energy should feel fine with 7 11 GI NST and amazon dot com Lakers ruling to Indiana short handed.
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We're gonna break everything down.
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Joining me tonight is Jazz King and Chris the Masterpiece Masters Guys.
00:00:27
Tough one. Tough one.
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But we could kind of feel this one coming Jazz.
00:00:31
What did you think about what we saw tonight from the Lakers? Honestly, I love the upper from the team, you know, playing shorthanded without to your best three offensive players, obviously.
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But who's been out and then a d Now you know, with a bit of ah, sore ankle like Dwight Howard.
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Look what he did out there.
00:00:46
Avery Bradley, 13 points.
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Alex Caruso, 11 points.
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They were right there.
00:00:49
Well, cost in this game, I think you could just look at the numbers free throw shooting. You can't lose.
00:00:53
You can't shoot eight of 17 47% and expect to be the team that I like that.
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And they lost by free.
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So to me, it was just simply the free throw shooting.
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But they were right there.
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And I don't think a lot of people expected that once you found out 80 wasn't gonna be able to play earlier today.
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Yeah, I agree. 100%.
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Of course.
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You want this there on that one? Yeah.
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I mean, you know, just like Jack said.
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I mean, the free throw shooting, they were under 50% on free throws, I think is what they finished with.
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And I mean, I can't hold this one against them personally again with no.
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80 no coups.
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And then we got this big game with the bucks coming up.
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You could also almost see something like this happening.
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I did feel like we were actually gonna win the game its end points.
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And I thought they played very well in certain sports of the game.
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But you know what you're gonna do.
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You know, you're not always gonna win every game, obviously.
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And where 24 for now. Yeah.
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The away from Staples winning streak is broken.
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They were undefeated away from Staples Center and now they have suffered a loss of the ends of the Indiana Pacers.
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But, you know, the thought popped into my head.
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There was about five minutes left in the game, and I'm watching it.
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And I thought, Gosh, win or lose, I'm pretty happy with this.
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Give me Don't get me wrong.
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I want to see a win.
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But I'm happy with the way these guys played with the way they went out there and competed. I know.
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I know for me personally.
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And you guys were saying the same thing on our text chain there, Uh, this was gonna be a tough one.
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And we knew what? We were kind of going into it going.
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Oh, no, Davis, you've got no Kuzma.
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The Pacers have some size.
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This could be a really, really tough outing.
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But I thought the Lakers really stepped up and took on the challenge.
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Those guys all came out and played with fire and played with passion and played to win.
00:02:25
Yeah, they came up a little bit short, but it's not like they just mailed it in and said, Oh, we're clearly not gonna win this one.
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They came out there, did everything they could to win the game.
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I thought we might see a Lakers team that was looking ahead to the Bucks.
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And to their credit, they were not.
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They went out and played hard on every single possession, and I give them all the credit, the world for doing what they did tonight.
00:02:45
I agree. 100%.
00:02:46
Trevor. You know what I mean? I look at what? The bench guys.
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They combined for 53 points, the same benchmarks that combined for 18 against Atlanta last game.
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So obviously those guys stepped it up once they knew that.
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No, A d And you know, you still obviously have LeBron, which gives you a chance to win.
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Really? Any game you're playing into in the n b A.
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But when they when we saw that, I mean, that was the first thing I had with in my mind was Okay.
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The bench is going to be able to step up today.
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That 24 combined at halftime, 29 in the second half. Options.
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Dwight Howard of 10 and 10.
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So 10 of 10 part of me from the field when I'm looking at it, I agree with you.
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I think this is almost like their first good loss of the season.
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We're like, Okay, you know, they did everything they could to win this one.
00:03:23
The Pacers just made some extra plays.
00:03:25
Obviously, the free throw line and the mystery throws work disappointing, of course, but still have a chance to win this game when you're missing two year three best guys, it shows how much like to have in this team as well.
00:03:34
Yeah, I mean, look, the free throws.
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That was really the game, right? There were eight of 17 from the line, 47% and then they were 25 26% from 38 of 31 shooting.
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That's it.
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That's the game right there.
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A few missed shots, some miss free throws, and that's the difference. And here's the thing.
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And we were talking about this before we went on the air.
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When you don't have have Anthony Davis, the margin of error that you have just goes down and you can see that you can't shoot that percentage from the free throw line and that percentage from three, and expect to pick up a win when you don't have both LeBron and 80.
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It was unfortunate that it happened in this one the way it did.
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But again, it's not for lack of trying.
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It's not like these guys came out and just mailed in their performances and looked ahead of the game against the Bucks.
00:04:15
Yeah, and I really like, you know, you guys were talking about liking what we saw its matter.
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A lot of guys.
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I mean, specifically Dwight Howard.
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Alice grew so Avery Bradley.
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I liked what I saw.
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A lot of a lot of these guys tonight in terms of on the defensive end, Dwight Howard cleaning up the mess and, you know, going 10 for 10.
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It was again.
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It wasn't necessarily bad loss like you guys were saying it like I was actually telling you guys earlier.
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This might be a good loss going into this big game against the Bucks on Thursday.
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It'll sharpen them up like they said, they don't want to lose two games in a row.
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Excuse my dog out there.
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She's apparently barking at somebody, but they don't They don't want to lose two games in a row, so we're gonna go that much sharper into that big game that we have against the Bucks.
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We know that with our full squad, we could beat the Pacers.
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Let's put it that way.
00:05:01
So your dog is basically also upset about the Lakers.
00:05:04
Lost, lost and fired up.
00:05:06
Not look like you said.
00:05:09
It's I don't know if there is such thing as a good loss, but if there is, this was it, right? I mean, this this was the game where you kind of felt like they were gonna be maybe a little bit outmatched.
00:05:19
It was gonna be a tough one there on the road there in the middle of a long road trip, and they still almost came out with a win.
00:05:24
Pretty impressive stuff overall.
00:05:26
And then again, like you said, maybe it will sharpen them up for their game against the Bucks.
00:05:29
That's kind of the glass is half full. Take there.
00:05:32
So far, every time they've lost, they've responded with a long win streak.
00:05:35
So we'll see.
00:05:36
Who knows? Maybe this is the start of another Wings to win streak, and they're gonna come take out the Bucks, the Nuggets and the Clippers in a row.
00:05:42
And then we'll be really excited on Christmas Day.
00:05:46
Yeah, you know what I mean? That's gonna be a big one against Milwaukee.
00:05:48
I don't know how much of a chance the Lakers will have without 100% anti Davis.
00:05:52
I think that could get scary.
00:05:53
But one thing they also got to sharpen up a little bit.
00:05:55
Man, The three point shooting, 13 and 62 combined the last two games.
00:05:59
That's, like 20 just under 21%.
00:06:02
So they've got to find a way to start hitting their open jumpers.
00:06:04
I don't mean it.
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A lot of them have been open.
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It's not like they're taking a lot of contested three's other than maybe LeBron.
00:06:09
But they need to kind of work on on getting back to making those, because after today I remember Trevor.
00:06:14
We were talking about it after one of the games.
00:06:16
They're upto fifth in the league in three point shooting and then after a planet it was so close, they fill the 12.
00:06:21
I'm sure after today they're gonna be a lot, a lot further down the down the rankings with that too.
00:06:25
So for me, I think that's one thing they're gonna look at an address and how to how to make sure they're kind of getting and hitting more open threes out there.
00:06:31
Yeah, that's just that Can you find a way to knock those down? And Frank Vogel, when they were struggling in the beginning of the season, kept saying that he wanted to make sure his team was turning down good shots in exchange for great shots he wanted find wide open looks.
00:06:43
And so I think we'll see him go back to that mantra.
00:06:45
Tried to get them to make the extra pass in order to get more open looks.
00:06:48
But I did feel like they had some good open looks that just rimmed out.
00:06:51
I mean, look, that final shot by Rondo was pretty open and he almost knocked it down.
00:06:56
And look, a lot of people are gonna be questioning Why is run over taking that shot? He's actually been one of their better three point shooters on the season on he almost hit.
00:07:03
It's just verily went in and out.
00:07:05
So, you know, a fraction of an inch and that thing hits bottom, so can't be too disappointed.
00:07:10
There.
00:07:11
You just gotta hope that they do find a way to knock them down over the coming over this next coming what week we can have, then you think based on what we're seeing I mean, we really I know you were talking about the trade market being open out everything.
00:07:24
I just I wonder if there's almost be nice to have somebody who is a consistent, deadeye shooter, because I feel like we have some good shooters, but they almost all of them feel streaky to some extent.
00:07:36
So I don't know exactly who was on the market are how we could match ups, you know, make that kind of trade work or if there is anybody, but we definitely need it.
00:07:44
What do you think? Jazz.
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I I I'm with you, man.
00:07:47
I think that's one thing we've talked about again, and we're kind of spilled milk here because the team's 24 let's forget that.
00:07:54
And then they played a hell of a game see with like I said to one of the best three all offensive players without 80 and Cruz.
00:07:58
But that's one thing that we've looked at and said OK, now in the regular season, it did kind of item today, almost victim against Atlanta, but you're worried about what's gonna happen in April and May as we get into the playoffs, and so were the way I'm looking at it on.
00:08:10
That is the fact that, yeah, if you can get into the bio market or get somebody on the cheap Ah, good outside shooter.
00:08:16
That's one thing they're going to have to address at some point.
00:08:19
Because to me, Troy Daniels, obviously not not doing what he was brought in to do, and Quinn Cook has been, you know, invisible the entire time, basically, other than one or two good games that he's had so far in terms of the outside shooting.
00:08:30
What about you guys? Well, yeah.
00:08:31
I mean, look, here's the thing Way said What was the one thing the Lakers addressed over the offseason? We would have said shooting right? I mean, aside, landing Anthony Davis in the Second Star and all that.
00:08:39
I mean, the one thing they addressed in terms of role players was shooting Danny Green, Quinn Cook, Troy Daniels.
00:08:45
All these guys, they they brought in their supposed to all be able to knock down shots, but it just hasn't quite been happening, not at a level that you would like to see it, but, you know, Danny Green on the night can complain to of 4 50% from three.
00:08:57
That's totally fine.
00:08:58
But it's the rest of the guys, the ac***ulation of them one of four from Avery Bradley, two of five.
00:09:03
Alex Cruz obviously find O of six from LeBron, one of four from from Dudley.
00:09:07
When you add all those up, it starts to ah starts to really take its toll on your three on your three point percentage.
00:09:12
I don't know if the solution is to go out there and hit the trade market and find somebody who is just a great shooter like a J J Red**** type.
00:09:19
That's a name that we saw pop up today as somebody that the Pelicans are still kind of reluctant to deal.
00:09:23
But I feel like the shooting is on the roster.
00:09:27
They just have to figure out a way to knock him down.
00:09:30
Yeah, I mean, that's where maybe Frank Vogel can get.
00:09:32
I mean, I don't want to sit here and act like, Oh, you know, this is an awful performance and, you know, obviously I said No, I've said this before.
00:09:38
They won 24 out of the 1st 28 games, so they're doing a lot, right? I just think maybe next time you have a disease, not not gonna be able to play in Milwaukee and you don't have shoes.
00:09:47
Maybe run a few more set pieces to try and get guys more open.
00:09:50
Look, Casey, she's been pretty pretty good from three Point Land recently.
00:09:54
Hopefully, Danny Green starts to get going after this performance today, but I'm worried about it happening on a consistent basis from one of the guys outside of LeBron a d.
00:10:02
In terms of getting offensive production you want, you want to hope to either see somebody that be able to hit, especially the three point line.
00:10:08
That's what Danny Green has bought it for.
00:10:09
So I hope you get that rolling now.
00:10:12
Yeah, hopefully they can figure out a way to get those guys to start knocking down shots.
00:10:15
Chris was there anybody who stood out to you today in this game? Anybody a knowledge LeBron player that you thought really played pretty well.
00:10:22
It sounds like somebody's tapping out Morse code 11 year makes by the way, guys, Sorry.
00:10:32
Let me guess where you typing out Master Lock? Yes, I think.
00:10:39
What? Dwight Howard stood out to me honestly, the night he was doing a lot of damage in the pain and really, I mean, he was 10 for 10.
00:10:46
How many rebounds that he had? Six rebounds, two blocks? I just really felt like it was a good game out of Dwight tonight, and he really stood out to me and additions.
00:10:54
Obviously.
00:10:55
Like I said before Caruso and Bradley, they looked like they were all over the place.
00:10:59
Defensively, I don't We see the Crusoe where Bradley helping out defensively when they can, you know, trying to trap guys or anything like that.
00:11:06
So those three guys tonight specifically? Yeah.
00:11:09
Chris, you know what we? One of our colleagues from Lakers Nation, Cory hands for it was tweeting out that he still can't believe that at this point in season, he is cheering this loudly for Dwight Howard.
00:11:18
10 of 10 from the field tonight.
00:11:19
20 points, six boards, two blocks.
00:11:22
This was this was like a throwback Orlando Magic Dwight Howard game.
00:11:26
I mean, he was He was really impressive.
00:11:28
He really stepped up.
00:11:29
Um, I'm still in disbelief.
00:11:31
Chris I know coming from your perspective, you probably can't believe that Dwight Howard is doing these things that he's doing, either.
00:11:38
Oh, yeah, I mean, especially he's a baby face in L.
00:11:41
A.
00:11:42
Now and I know you guys. We talked about this before.
00:11:44
Dwight Howard was a taboo topic out here.
00:11:46
You did not talk about Dwight Howard.
00:11:48
We do not like him.
00:11:49
And now he's loved in the city and he's doing Ah, it's just it's great to see a redemption story like this play out in front of us.
00:11:56
I mean, branded.
00:11:57
We still need him to play big minutes later in the season.
00:12:00
That's when it's really gonna count.
00:12:01
But it's nice to see him really embracing Los Angeles to this extent, and you know, to the point where he's even dying his braids purple.
00:12:09
That's right, Chris, can I ask you something about that? So we saw the transformation with Dwight Howard's body, you know, throat the summer in terms of bulkier, heavier, carrying a lot more, but a lot more lean now.
00:12:20
How much work we had to put into that would not be diet based or kind of the exercises that he's doing in the gym in order to shed that wait and get a little bit later, because he looks so much quicker on his feet now than he did lethargic with Washington a bit last year and as well, a stop in Charlotte.
00:12:32
Yeah, he looks like he, probably as in taking a lot less calories, first of all, and then probably just doing a lot more aerobic activity than even weightlifting.
00:12:41
I know that's been usually the case for me whenever I have had a couple of points in my career, where I dropped the significant out of Matt away.
00:12:48
Being that 10 15 I don't know if I've ever dropped £20 but you know, obviously, you know, the thing is is when you dropped that amount of way, too.
00:12:56
You feel so much lighter on your feet.
00:12:58
So Dwight Howard probably feels like five years younger, just tearing around West.
00:13:03
Wait on the basketball court.
00:13:04
A lot of that muscle you had.
00:13:05
It looked really good and it would look great if he was like a wrestler, for instance.
00:13:09
But, you know, for an MBA court, I don't think it's necessary.
00:13:12
I think he still has much strength and brute force.
00:13:16
Even at a lighter weight, at least on the basketball court.
00:13:19
Yeah, Don't you go ahead.
00:13:21
Just Chris has more by muscle in his left, By the way, went to the right guy for the question.
00:13:31
About about musculature.
00:13:35
Hey, uh, hey, just we've got a debate raging here in our chat with some people saying LeBron had a bad game.
00:13:41
Others people saying, What are you talking about? LeBron did not have a bad game.
00:13:45
Did LeBron James have a bad game tonight? Well, I think if you watch the Pacers defense, a lot of them were where they were cracking down it, basically plugging up the lane any time he was trying to drive.
00:13:55
Use eight for 20 from from the field.
00:13:57
And, you know, they're even on that last drive there against Miles shorter.
00:14:00
We pulled up for that free.
00:14:02
He was almost doing that from a point that there was nobody.
00:14:05
There is nothing available to him.
00:14:06
He got he got to the pain a couple times and he pulled back out.
00:14:09
And you know, Danny Green was open in the in the corner, but it's almost like those guys were staying home so are not staying home.
00:14:14
They were helping out to me.
00:14:16
I mean, I don't think he had a great game offensive and you could never complain when a guy's 29 9 you use a diamond, a rebound short of a triple double.
00:14:23
But I just think that he had to deal with.
00:14:26
Everybody came on it today to try and stop it, and that's the faces knew they had to do in order to get a win.
00:14:31
Yeah, I mean, look, I look at his stat line and I think eight of 20 from the field, so if he makes one more shot, two more shots and if he had a couple of free throws, if he's six of eight, right, this is a win and we're talking about what a great game.
00:14:44
LeBron, How'd right? That's how that's the how close that is, That razor's edge, where LeBron you look at his stat line, you go 20 points, nine boards, nine assists.
00:14:53
But he missed some free throws and he missed a few shots more, maybe a few more than they normally would and everybody points at him and go so clearly he didn't have a good game again.
00:15:01
We're talking about a tiny small, a small margin of error there.
00:15:04
And so I don't think it was a poor performance, but I thought some of the passes through tonight we're ridiculous.
00:15:09
Chris, there's that passed that behind the back pass that he threw things to JaVale McGee.
00:15:14
Oh, my God.
00:15:15
That reminded me of Magic Johnson right there.
00:15:17
I know you're a lifelong Laker fan, Chris.
00:15:18
Where you having magic flashbacks like I was Oh, yeah.
00:15:22
Obviously, when you see LeBron LeBron is the closest thing we've ever seen.
00:15:26
The Magic Johnson.
00:15:27
I remember the last time.
00:15:28
Where What did he do? That between the lights To Dwight Howard? I was probably one of the dunks of the year.
00:15:33
I mean, it's just it's amazing to see.
00:15:35
And, you know, the crazy thing about LeBron to is he's much more of a physical specimen than even Magic Johnson was.
00:15:42
So, uh, you know, it was a tough night for him going over six from three, the 54% from the line.
00:15:48
But I mean again, just when he's out there, we have the best shot.
00:15:52
I mean, if LeBron goes down, I have so much less faith in our team winning.
00:15:56
But even tonight, with a D and cooze being down knowing that we had LeBron on the line up, I'm like, Oh, we got a good shot to win this one.
00:16:04
Yeah.
00:16:05
Yeah, that's what I thought, too. You like You've got LeBron out there.
00:16:07
You've got a great chance.
00:16:08
Uh, swaggy fan from from Periscope mentions the Dwight pass.
00:16:12
Yeah, LeBron had multiple just highlight reel passes.
00:16:15
The Dwight passes well, was another absolutely incredible one.
00:16:19
Some people say not clutched LeBron and all that kind of stuff.
00:16:23
I get it.
00:16:24
Look, the five turnovers and all that.
00:16:25
But still, you're nowhere close to winning this game without him.
00:16:29
I didn't think his performance was all that bad.
00:16:30
Yeah, he made some key errors, made some mistakes.
00:16:33
But you clean up a few little things here and there, and the entire narrative flips.
00:16:36
I'm saying it's not like it was a disaster game from him or anything like that.
00:16:40
Um, food TV from YouTube.
00:16:44
Jess.
00:16:45
Without a D, the Lakers are nothing.
00:16:48
Do you agree with that with that jazz, is it? If you don't have Anthony, Davis and LeBron are the Lakers just dead in the water.
00:16:54
No, I still think that they would be a playoff team in the Western Conference and fighting for maybe the Saturn, maybe to succeed on things like really well for them.
00:17:02
I don't need to be dead in the water.
00:17:03
That's like saying, Well, if you think Ally Leonard off the off the L.
00:17:06
A Clippers, are there gonna be any good? You take the honest scoop off the Milwaukee Boxter now.
00:17:10
I don't think the Lakers are dead in the water.
00:17:12
You still have LeBron James and the way he's played this year and how he's been the revenge season. Wash King.
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All the other hashtags he's putting out there, you know, he seems motivated.
00:17:21
He seems ready, so I don't think the Lakers would be dead in the water at all.
00:17:23
They're still a playoff team without a D.
00:17:25
Now having a deal obvious that propels a championship contender status.
00:17:28
But I mean, yeah, they would definitely be a death little most if you didn't have in terms of winning a championship.
00:17:34
But they're still up pretty pretty good and, you know, talk 15 team in the n B A.
00:17:38
What do you guys think? Well, absolutely.
00:17:40
I agree.
00:17:41
They be definitely top 15.
00:17:42
I look at the way they got up for this game, and you can't expect that on a nightly if they just didn't have Anthony Davis.
00:17:46
You couldn't expect this type of performance on nightly basis.
00:17:49
That where the way Caruso stepped up, Dwight Howard going for 20 all that, they clearly all had it in their heads.
00:17:54
We need to step up to make up for a D.
00:17:56
But still, I think they'd be a top 15 team even without him.
00:17:58
And that's you know, then with him, they're a top, you know, to team top three team.
00:18:02
Whatever, right, Chris? Yeah. I like this team.
00:18:05
They play well together, and it doesn't.
00:18:06
You know, 80 is great.
00:18:08
Obviously, we love a D.
00:18:09
And he's gonna be our future for a long time.
00:18:12
But I like this team comprised of everybody.
00:18:15
I like Danny Green.
00:18:16
I like Dwight Howard.
00:18:18
I like Caruso.
00:18:19
I mean, they're not trashed by any means.
00:18:21
All right, guys, I've got a real serious question for you.
00:18:23
Hear? Coming from from Roman rays from YouTube, pineapple on pizza.
00:18:28
Trevor with a with a question mark.
00:18:29
I'm gonna let you guys weigh in first.
00:18:32
Jazz does pineapple belong on pizza? And this is serious, serious stuff here? Yes, all day, Twice on Sunday.
00:18:39
I say yes to pineapple pizza.
00:18:40
Haven't find out, but you never go wrong with it.
00:18:43
I originally I think I know where you're going with this.
00:18:46
Trevor, I originally was with you, and I was a no pineapple on pizza guy.
00:18:51
Although I did have some pineapple on pizza when I was in Alaska, and it was freaking beautiful.
00:18:58
It was so good.
00:18:59
So I had to say Pineapple does work in some cases on pizza.
00:19:03
Okay, I I'm joking.
00:19:06
I'm gonna be the guy on the island.
00:19:07
I'm gonna say no.
00:19:08
Pineapple does not belong on pizza.
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And I will tell you why.
00:19:11
Here's the problem.
00:19:12
People who order pineapple on pizza are **** selfish.
00:19:15
Okay? Because you know what happens? You have people like me who don't don't like pineapple on pizza.
00:19:19
You can't just order it on half.
00:19:21
Because what happens is the pineapple juice, like seeps in to the rest of you.
00:19:25
Get a pineapple taste.
00:19:27
If you're that guy that has the half of the pizza that has no pineapple.
00:19:30
It still tastes like pineapple.
00:19:31
Have to order a whole extra pizza just to get the pineapple way from.
00:19:34
And keep your pineapple off a pizza, People.
00:19:36
Come on.
00:19:38
Well, the very good point.
00:19:39
Truck E.
00:19:45
I know.
00:19:46
My goodness.
00:19:47
I told you, this is This is serious stuff.
00:19:49
Way right.
00:19:54
You are right about infecting the whole pizza.
00:19:56
But really, it happens.
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And I've had this issue with my girlfriend before.
00:19:59
It is an issue.
00:20:00
It is an issue.
00:20:01
Uh, Judge Juan Williams from Facebook says, same problem.
00:20:06
Different game turnovers and free throws, the turnovers, You know, when it started off pretty sloppy, but then at the end of the game, they had 14 turnovers.
00:20:14
Like That's not great.
00:20:16
But that's not awfully like I'm okay with 14 turnovers in a game where you're missing to your better players.
00:20:22
I didn't have an issue with that, so Yeah, it was ugly at some points.
00:20:25
But then you go and you dig in a little bit deeper.
00:20:27
You look at you know, the points off turnovers.
00:20:30
They Both teams were tied at 13 points off turnovers.
00:20:33
The Lakers only gave up eight fast break points that's been a problem with them in the past.
00:20:36
I was actually okay with the pace they played at and with the turnovers tonight, I thought they were just fine.
00:20:43
Yeah, I thought I thought they looked good.
00:20:44
I thought they looked at as well.
00:20:45
They had that ugly stretch in the beginning of the third quarter.
00:20:47
You guys remember coming out of halftime and I was taking notes on that.
00:20:50
They had scored 11 points in the 1st 8 minutes eight minutes of the third quarter and then scored basically electable.
00:20:56
They scored 13 more at the last three and 1/2 minutes, so they started to get things rolling in a lot of those turnovers.
00:21:02
We're coming in that time.
00:21:03
I don't know the exactly known up atop my head, but I think there was 45 turnovers just in that little stretch of the game for the Lakers themselves.
00:21:09
So I mean again, I'm not gonna look at this and say, Oh, this was an awful lot something that that Mavericks lost people terrible.
00:21:16
The launch to the Raptors at home.
00:21:18
They look terrible today.
00:21:19
They look right there playing shorthanded.
00:21:21
I thought they did a lot of things right? Did they shoot themselves in the foot? The good part is playing without to your three best players.
00:21:27
You still had a chance to win against the 18 and 19 on their home court.
00:21:31
Anyone? It was two or three plays here and there.
00:21:33
LeBron and and and Dwight Howard on the free throws one more three points or changes the narrative of this game.
00:21:39
And if LeBron ends up scoring 24 points and hits a three an extra two free throws, we're talking about a superhuman effort by LeBron James, even though he would have ended with 25 points but led his team to a win without Anthony Davis in college.
00:21:49
Exactly.
00:21:50
It's amazing how much the narrative can change with one little thing here and there.
00:21:54
And it can completely turn things around changes that the perception of everything it's just it's just the way the world is the way it is, Andres Montoya says.
00:22:02
Trevor, I was going to send you a case of pineapples.
00:22:05
Keepem Andres, you hang out with a case of up time energy drink instead.
00:22:11
How about that? Um, Greg, Greg V said.
00:22:15
Do you guys know if 80 is playing against the Milwaukee Bucks.
00:22:20
I would hope so, being that he was a gametime call.
00:22:22
But nothing, Nothing official at this point, I haven't been checking Twitter there to see if anybody mentioned anything after the game just yet.
00:22:28
Uh, but I don't know if Ah, we're gonna talk about this.
00:22:32
Something just popped up.
00:22:33
We need to discuss here, but yeah, I, uh I don't know.
00:22:37
I I would say it looks like likely, but I kind of depends on how it responsibly.
00:22:41
Chris, you've dealt with injuries like this when you turn your ankle.
00:22:45
If you feel like you're pretty close to being able to play being able to compete, and then it's a few days later, chances are probably good that you're gonna be able to get the next one, right? Yeah.
00:22:56
And I think he'll be playing in the next one.
00:22:59
And I think that part of him sitting out might be the fact that we're playing the bucks in a couple days.
00:23:03
You know, maybe you just wanted to get that extra bit of hell time.
00:23:06
They know how important that game is.
00:23:08
I mean, right now we know who stands at the top of the whole MBA.
00:23:12
You know, between the bucks, Clippers, Lakers Pretty much, right? And I don't know, I guess the Mavs air probably up there somewhere.
00:23:18
But, you know, I think he's gonna play.
00:23:20
And I think it's going to be a fascinating matchup to watch on Thursday because of some of the things that we brought up, you know, in terms of I think, you know, the bucks are three point shooting.
00:23:31
Just a bunch of snipers right there, Right there.
00:23:33
We don't have shooting like that, so I don't know.
00:23:35
I think I think we'll have a d.
00:23:37
I'm crossing my fingers.
00:23:38
I'm open, We have him, so we'll see.
00:23:41
Yeah, Trevor, I got I got I got a question for you.
00:23:44
Would you Would you put on? Would you put on Janette's on Thursday? 80.
00:23:48
Idiot, baby, I put him on there.
00:23:49
Yeah, I know that you might be a little bit quicker, but eighties got the length to deal with them.
00:23:53
I mean, I'm not gonna like LeBron can spend some stretches on him, but he's too big to put Danny Green on him.
00:23:58
And he's too fast to put Dwight Howard or or JaVale on him.
00:24:02
So and realistically, it's going to be a team defensive effort on him.
00:24:05
But I think you got to go 80 getting the majority of the minutes.
00:24:09
And that may tire amount.
00:24:10
But again, it's kind of what you have to do.
00:24:12
You don't really have much of a choice there.
00:24:14
What? What? Sorry.
00:24:16
One more question. What is out there? You go back.
00:24:18
You start LeBron on them right away.
00:24:19
Or do you kind of go with I wear? Gonna say Casey V.
00:24:23
I don't I don't think that I'm ready.
00:24:25
Like Leonard.
00:24:27
That's just mean kcp man.
00:24:30
Do you sacrifice Jared Dudley to him? Oh, I mean, charity.
00:24:36
You could see if you're done with them.
00:24:39
Maybe that was just a couple of technicals ejected.
00:24:42
That would be the best defense right now.
00:24:44
Reduced. Going to slap him a couple times.
00:24:46
Way to do it.
00:24:48
By the way, guys, we've been talking about this every week about how the Lakers the teams were going to get up to play the Lakers.
00:24:54
Malcolm Brogdon called this game the biggest win of the Pacer season in the postgame, which yes, like this is this that validates everything we've been saying, and I'm not trying to say that I was like, Oh, the Lakers were so great And every other team's gonna is so fired up to play them because the Lakers are so much better And although they just they understand there's gonna be more eyeballs on this game than than anybody else.
00:25:14
I'm not tryingto, you know, look down on any other teams and say, Oh, it's only the Lakers that fans tune in for but teams no players know that.
00:25:22
They're gonna have a lot of eyeballs on them when they're playing the Lakers. So it is.
00:25:25
And the Pacers, to their credit, they played like this was their biggest game of the season, and they did what they needed to do to win.
00:25:31
So credit that I'm actually really like this Pacers team watching and seeing the play the way they work together, the way they cut off the ball.
00:25:37
That's a team I'm definitely gonna be trying to watch more of, just kind of in spare time.
00:25:41
That stuff well, you know, you know, it's interesting because I actually I would like to ask first.
00:25:46
That is well, you know, when you're playing, um, in these games like we're talking about how the Lakers opponents are always like, you know, the Lakers are coming to town.
00:25:53
The ticket prices on the secondary market always hire because it's in demand ticket.
00:25:57
So for you, Chris, like if you're if you're a wrestling and you know your time in the deputy, if you're going against, you know, a guy like John Sena, who are the big guys? Is there a different kind of like, you know, excitement and nervousness? Or is it the intensity that you have compared to if you were going against the Brooklyn brawlers, something along those lines? Oh, yeah.
00:26:15
Oh, yeah, definitely.
00:26:16
Just because, I mean, there would be a little different for a wrestling show because if the show was comprised of many matches and one game was considered a game, But, you know, there's definitely another level.
00:26:27
You bring it you, especially if you know, let's just say you're the main event of a show.
00:26:31
You know that.
00:26:32
And you're on with a, uh, John Sena.
00:26:34
Are Shawn Michaels or somebody you know that you have to close the show.
00:26:37
You know, you're out there with one of the best in the business.
00:26:40
So you know, to go back to what you're saying.
00:26:42
You know, I'm sure that when the Lakers go up against these teams that we're talking about, they're going into these games with that type of mindset.
00:26:49
They know it's just it's not just another Tuesday in Indianapolis.
00:26:52
This is, you know, read it.
00:26:54
It is Milwaukee, but you know, it's no walk in there.
00:26:56
The Bucks and they're a top team in the league.
00:26:58
So they're going approach it like that.
00:27:00
Whether they say it or not.
00:27:01
You know, that guy's probably say they're going to approach it just like any other game.
00:27:05
But, you know, you definitely approach those moments like much more, and you Sometimes they're on autopilot in some of the situations, like, you know, even tonight.
00:27:13
You know, at some point they might have been on autopilot and then they were able to pick it up.
00:27:17
And, you know, you just you get yourself up to another level for those big games of those big matchups.
00:27:23
Yeah, that's that's the case.
00:27:25
That's case across all sports.
00:27:26
When there's that big contest, you know that it's gonna be whether it's it's L.
00:27:30
A Galaxy versus L A F C.
00:27:32
Whether it's Dodgers versus Giants.
00:27:34
Whatever.
00:27:35
Yankees Red Sox right team teams get up for those big, big matchups, right? 40 Niners vs Falcons.
00:27:41
Right.
00:27:42
Those air, Those are the big ones.
00:27:43
That team for e was gonna do something that we should have done on the camera. Wait.
00:27:52
Sorry, Jack.
00:27:53
Cheap shot.
00:27:54
I don't think they lock you lost before 19 at home.
00:27:56
It's okay.
00:27:59
Yeah, that's that's that is what everybody hated.
00:28:02
The Niners look great, by the way.
00:28:03
And and their and their defense has got me to the championship round of my one of my fantasy fantasy league.
00:28:09
So hoping that we'll hopefully the police got there.
00:28:12
Congratulations on doing that.
00:28:14
Because I was into and I was terrible boat. Oh, yeah.
00:28:17
I'm in the championship in two out of five, So I'm feeling pretty good about that.
00:28:21
This 40% for you.
00:28:23
I'll take it.
00:28:24
I'll tell you if only the Lakers could shoot 40% from three.
00:28:27
Yeah.
00:28:28
Yeah.
00:28:32
Uh, I've got a good take here from Albert Jones from Facebook.
00:28:35
A Laker loss every two and 1/2 weeks is doable.
00:28:39
Smiley face, Right, right.
00:28:41
like looking at the big picture guys A like they won.
00:28:46
They've won so many games there, 24 4 I think about it was it was just a few years ago.
00:28:51
They won 17 games total all season 1 17 games there, 24 4 on periscope.
00:29:00
I've got Simms, Emma Mae says.
00:29:01
Chris, the clicker masters give his new thing has drawn heat by clicking.
00:29:13
Yeah, right.
00:29:14
There you go, christen quicker ministers, that's what.
00:29:17
We're gonna go with that one.
00:29:18
A lot of people right now are chimed in, saying that they are concerned about LeBron's free throw shooting, and there is becoming a bigger problem.
00:29:26
They're worried about it, particularly in crunch time situations.
00:29:29
Are you guys worried at all about LeBron's free throw shooting, or do you think he's gonna make him when the count? I mean, we saw we saw LeBron miss a couple free throws, but and then, you know it was getting to me.
00:29:43
But then a couple of minutes later, that the end of the fourth quarter, we saw him hit his last two.
00:29:47
So I don't know if it's necessarily concerned.
00:29:49
I mean, it is the one part of his game.
00:29:51
That looks like it's, Ah, one week part of his game right now, but I don't know.
00:29:55
I have faith.
00:29:56
It seems like every season usually turn.
00:29:58
This turns us around at some point and, you know, ends up bearing it a fairly decent percentage.
00:30:04
What do you think? Jazz.
00:30:05
You know what? That's been an issue since since it came here 66% last year.
00:30:09
68 this year.
00:30:10
The career 73% shooter? I don't know.
00:30:13
I mean, that's something that I wish that you could ask, and I know from my years play college basketball.
00:30:18
It just some guys can hit them consistently and just some guys don't.
00:30:21
It's not a matter of practice.
00:30:23
It's not a matter of anything else.
00:30:24
It's just you know what I mean? It's a it's not as easy as it looks.
00:30:27
Should he be hitting Maur at his level? Absolutely.
00:30:30
But I think LeBron is what he is at this point.
00:30:32
I've also seen him that but shot free throws a lot of times in his career, and I've seenem institute time, so I think that's what you're getting with him.
00:30:38
He's not Steph Curry.
00:30:39
He's not played Thompson.
00:30:40
He's not Steve Nash, where you guarantee they're gonna shoot 90% year in and year out.
00:30:44
He This is what he is from the free throw line, and he's been the whole time he's been in the NBA.
00:30:48
Here's the thing that I think we see with free throws, and this is why people freak out so much about them.
00:30:52
It's because you can go in your driveway and shoot free throws, right? Like LeBron LeBron can drive down the lane, fly into the air and then throw behind the back pass on the on the money and lead to, Ah, just a ferocious slam.
00:31:06
Most people can't do that right, so if he blows that if something happens and you know the ball gets the ball, slams off somebody's chest and goes out of bounds or whatever, you know people are a little bit more forgiving of plays like that.
00:31:18
Where is miss free throws were like expecting them to make it.
00:31:20
It's almost like the kicker missing in football, right? It's that type of thing where you just expect them to make all of them not understand that it's actually really difficult to do I mean, look at Dwight Howard, who is a terrible free throw shooter, and there's that infamous board that the Lakers had when they first had him where they were keeping track average free throws in practice.
00:31:36
He was like an 82% free throw shooter.
00:31:38
It's just it's such a different environment.
00:31:40
And in the games, it's, Ah, it's a mental thing and it's really, really difficult to be able to hit those when you've got the entire reader there.
00:31:46
You've been playing a game, you're tired.
00:31:48
All of those things matter.
00:31:49
And yes, LeBron's a professional.
00:31:51
Yes, you should be able to knock him down.
00:31:52
But I'm saying it's it's not just a gimme that he's going to make all of them.
00:31:55
He's 68% for the line for the season.
00:31:59
I'd love to hit for him to be up in the low seventy's, but I think of anything.
00:32:03
I'd like to see him shooting Maur of them.
00:32:04
He's at a career low 5.
00:32:06
4 free throws per game.
00:32:08
I'd like to see him get some more free throws off and get some more reps in up there at the line because I'm hoping that As the season goes on, he'll develop a little bit more of a rhythm.
00:32:15
That's that's so key to being able to knock those down there.
00:32:18
Just getting that rhythm, getting the reps, getting up there and hitting him.
00:32:22
Yeah, I agree with You know what? I think that a little bit of a byproduct of him getting less free throws this season has been the fact that Anthony Davis have been close to the hoop and kind of don't want clogging the lane, but is taking up a lot of the real estate, you know, in the paint and near the group.
00:32:35
But because I think LeBron has been very invested this year, I mean, he's had to meet some killer takes where he driving down the lane to buy out the top and throws it down.
00:32:42
So I don't know, but the case of oppression or anything like that.
00:32:45
But I do agree with you.
00:32:46
I think that he needs to get to a moment where he's shooting 14 15 16 free throws a game for a couple of times.
00:32:52
You know, 23 times in a row, er two times out of 56 game stretch to get that rhythm going, But again, I'm gonna stick with that.
00:32:58
I just think he's roughly a 70% free throw shooter that's gonna go down a little bit.
00:33:02
The end of games, especially retired.
00:33:03
You don't have the legs.
00:33:04
He's turning 35 what in a couple of weeks there.
00:33:06
So you know it's not gonna not gonna get easier for him on that front again.
00:33:10
I just think that it's not Yeah, like you're saying it's not as easy as people think it is that what you're shooting a free, so you should choose 100% from there.
00:33:16
It's like I think there's a lot of variables to it, But LeBron is what he is, and this was a concern when he was in Miami as well that he's not.
00:33:22
He's not a great free throw shooter.
00:33:23
He's got a clutch free throw shooter.
00:33:25
As Chris mentioned, he did hit a couple at the end there.
00:33:27
That's got to be back in it.
00:33:28
But I just think that's what he is that the time had this time from the free throw line.
00:33:32
Yeah, and you'll take it right.
00:33:34
I mean, look at like if that's his one flaw.
00:33:38
Okay? He's one of the all time greats, right? I mean, if he misses some free throws every now and then, Yeah, you'd love to see him knocked him down, but you'll you'll take that.
00:33:46
You'll take LeBron and missing a few free throws because he's going to give you 20 plus points plus plus nine boards and eight assists or eight boards and nine assists.
00:33:54
However, you wanna look at it right? He's going to do all those other things, so you just kinda gotta roll with it.
00:33:59
I'm not gonna nitpick too much over a few missed free throws that offends us.
00:34:03
And spans were all we contend to be unreasonable sometimes.
00:34:07
Yeah, he's not gonna hit every single free throw he hits.
00:34:09
And, you know, like you said, he does basically everything else.
00:34:14
So, of course, that everybody is gonna have a Achilles heel, so to speak.
00:34:18
So and that just for LeBron, it happens to be free throws.
00:34:21
But it's not to the extent of it.
00:34:23
You know, Shaquille O'Neal are Dwight Howard or anything where they're gonna have to LeBron.
00:34:27
But, you know, it could be a concern in the clutch for us.
00:34:30
Definitely so before we move on and just and just get to the Milwaukee Bucks game, there's one thing I want to address here, and that's I've got YouTube, J R L says Vogel, is overrated.
00:34:42
And then a few comments down free form.
00:34:46
Rico says Vocal coach of the year.
00:34:51
Differing opinions.
00:34:53
Clearly, right? Um, I don't look at this game.
00:34:56
I think this was Vogel Vogel.
00:34:58
Vogel blew it.
00:34:59
I actually thought something stood out that he did really well, just what was your take on Vogel? What we've seen from him so far, What we saw from him to this game.
00:35:08
I just want to start by saying that those two comments encapsulate today's world on the Internet.
00:35:12
So what's going on? I mean, 11 sided, want, agree argument, the other and the other.
00:35:17
But I love the job Frank Borman has done.
00:35:19
I think you've been very flexible and and and adapt, adapt to what the situation is, and then I mean what you lost.
00:35:26
They lost to a team that now 19 and nine on the road in a closed three point game.
00:35:30
I don't know what else he could have done differently.
00:35:32
Strategically, I like the fact that he put Jared Dudley in the in the lineup because it kind of gave the other guy's more continuity that play with each other a little bit on the second unit.
00:35:40
I like the fact that he still kept LeBron at 35 minutes.
00:35:42
You know, he could have given him four or five more just because the fact that didn't have a d I don't know complaint Frank Vogel so fine. But I think it's great.
00:35:49
You know it and you're coaching a team is 24 4 You have to get a lot the right buttons at the same time, People calling a moat.
00:35:55
You got a point to the record as well.
00:35:56
Yeah, 100% agreed.
00:35:58
And Chris, one of things I think Vogel is so good at.
00:36:01
By the way, Lakers lost 105102 and this one's super close one.
00:36:05
I think he's been really good at improvising and kind of just reading what's happening in the game and reacting.
00:36:10
You do that a ton in your wrestling matches.
00:36:13
You have to read and react to everything that's going on and sometimes you have to improvise.
00:36:17
How difficult is that in the moment when you've got the entire crowd watching you and waiting for your reaction and how you're going to respond to a situation? Uh, well, it can be difficult, but usually when you're in those type of situations your adrenaline is, so I and you're not really thinking as much as just reacting.
00:36:36
It's almost instantaneous.
00:36:38
So I think a lot of these guys when they get out on the court, it's just that, you know, you've heard them talk about game speed and everything.
00:36:44
I think things move so fast, you don't have a lot of time.
00:36:47
It's just like you said.
00:36:48
It's breathing, reacting and at a certain point you don't even ah really realize almost that the crowds there because you're so focused on the job ahead of what you're doing, an execution and everything like that Have you found yourself in a moment where, like you had to make a decision where something went wrong and you had to make a choice on what to do? And it was, and it was a moment they had to process something really quickly because that's something I think Vogel's been really good at has been, You know, when he when he can't just read and react to something when something shifts in the game coming up with an alternative plan, What's that like? Oh, yeah, Why? I've had certain matches where I was slated to be the bad guy.
00:37:27
And for whatever reason, the crowd was reacting to me like summer hunts.
00:37:31
The crowd doesn't exactly react as you want them to.
00:37:34
And I've had matches where you actually switch roles and you go from either the bad guy to the good guy or the good guys, the bad guy.
00:37:41
And you make that decision on the fly based on, like taking the temperature of the crowd and just, you know, it doesn't mean you have to give the audience what, you want it again.
00:37:48
I don't time out wrestling here, but you know it does.
00:37:51
You know, you do gotta make these judgment calls and, you know, that's kind of like what I think you're alluding to my friend Bogle's.
00:37:56
He's having to make these kind of decisions on the play, and we didn't see a lot of this out of Luke Walton last year again. I know we've talked.
00:38:03
We've all talked about that a lot.
00:38:04
So I really respect what we've seen out of Frank Vogel and the decisions he's made.
00:38:09
And again, this was our third choice coach, and he's doing this awesome.
00:38:13
Yeah, he absolutely is.
00:38:14
And I think you hit the nail on the head there, Chris.
00:38:16
It's not an easy thing to do, and sometimes you do have to kind of flipped the script today.
00:38:22
In the game, the Lakers had to go with these four guard lineups where they had.
00:38:26
You know, Caruso and Danny Green and KCP and Rondo out there along with, say, a Dwight Howard.
00:38:31
And at first they were definitely slowing the ball down and doing everything they could to try to limit the amount of our offensive possessions.
00:38:37
Which is exactly what you should do when you're up and your team relies on LeBron James and I thought they were handling that pretty well.
00:38:43
And then in the third quarter, Frank Vogel said, Okay, go when the Lakers were down and he knew they needed scoring.
00:38:49
It's time to throw caution to the wind, let them go out there and attack, even if it creates more offensive possessions because you can't just sit on the game.
00:38:56
You can't try to slow it down too much.
00:38:57
You might as well see if you can generate some offense.
00:38:59
And so he read the game perfectly in those moments, and it was a very quickly changing game, and he completely shifted his strategy with his his small ball units.
00:39:07
So just another example.
00:39:09
It seems like every game.
00:39:11
There's an example of a situation where Vogel reads what's happening and he responds in the right way, and it works out well for the Lakers.
00:39:17
And of course, you know they don't pick up the win today.
00:39:19
But the decision making for Vogel, I thought, was really, really good, and that's something that I've been really excited about from him this season.
00:39:25
It's like you said, Part of that is in contrast to what we saw from Luke Walton.
00:39:29
But part of this is just Frank Vogel is really good at his job.
00:39:32
I think we can we can kind of agree on that at this point.
00:39:36
Yeah, you're 100% right, man, I mean again and he had to deal with a lot of the question marks that people had about okay, they wanted to do that, you know, didn't want Frank Global.
00:39:46
That it was, though the Lakers hired Jason Kidd almost as like a backup plan that if something goes wrong with Frank Vogel early in the Seas, that Jason Kidd is gonna be the whispers about Jason Kidd becoming the coach.
00:39:56
We're gonna get louder and louder, and what we've seen now is that nobody's questioned the coach.
00:40:01
I think that's the first time ever heard.
00:40:02
I don't know if anybody else has in the convent, I mean, because you see them.
00:40:04
But I haven't heard one piece of criticism but before about Frank Vogel from from media members of the other players.
00:40:12
Anybody else I think he's been, he's been, ah, great addition to the team.
00:40:16
And let's be honest. I mean, I'm not saying what it is.
00:40:18
LeBron probably does a lot of the coaching as well, in terms of trying to figure things out in terms of offensively and where he's comfortable with helping go.
00:40:26
But at the same time, you gotta manage the rotation.
00:40:28
You gotta manage kind of the game flow because that's what basketball is.
00:40:30
You can't just say well, we're gonna run the 23 zone the entire time because if the team's killing it, you're obviously gonna have to switch out of it.
00:40:36
You have to adapt to what's happening on the fly.
00:40:38
And I think that has been the biggest strength.
00:40:40
Is that where is what move? All last year, a lot of it was based off.
00:40:43
Well, this is my game plan, and this is what I think is gonna work.
00:40:46
So the guys are gonna run it, come hell or high, right? Yeah, that's what we've been talking about this season is just that adaptability compared to what they had last season.
00:40:52
And you know what? You mentioned LeBron James kind of coaching things.
00:40:55
That's always been the criticism that LeBron is really the jam.
00:40:58
LeBron is really the coach, his team.
00:41:00
LeBron. He were doing whatever he says.
00:41:02
But I look at that.
00:41:03
I look at it.
00:41:04
Another strength for Vogel, right? He has managed to interact with LeBron James, not allow LeBron to overpower him.
00:41:10
I think he has LeBron's respect and I look at the way the way he relates to his assistant coaches, the way he brings in the opinions of LeBron of we've seen and bring in KCP.
00:41:21
We've seen bringing Rondo all these other voices.
00:41:23
He's not afraid to let go of the rope a little bit and create that buy in from the team and say, Hey, look, we're all part of this.
00:41:30
This isn't just this is what we're doing Everybody do what I say because I'm the coach and I think it's a very, very fine line to walk to be able to do that and still keep that respect and still keep that control.
00:41:41
But he's done a tremendous job at that.
00:41:45
No.
00:41:46
Yeah, I mean, totally agree.
00:41:47
This has been, uh, he's just done a hell.
00:41:50
Help a job coaching us.
00:41:51
We're lucky to have him.
00:41:53
So let's get into the Milwaukee Bucks game. Chris.
00:41:57
A lot of people have said This is the game that is gonna really be a test for the Lakers.
00:42:01
If they're not talking about the Clippers game just yet, they're talking about this game against the Milwaukee Bucks.
00:42:06
What are we hoping to see out of this one heading into Milwaukee knowing that hopefully a D is gonna be coming off injury.
00:42:12
Hopefully, crews was going to be coming back.
00:42:14
What are your thoughts on this matchup.
00:42:17
Well, my thoughts on this match up or I mean, this is a potential finals match up.
00:42:20
This is the best team in the East, and we've got the Greek freaky honest over there, and it will be such such an interesting matchup.
00:42:28
I mean, it's like it's like almost a headline of a WrestleMania Johannes versus a d.
00:42:33
Think about it that would I would sell that Patasse's and seats women.
00:42:37
It's holding seven allover again here.
00:42:41
It II also again to bring it up on just we were talking about the three point shooting of the Lakers.
00:42:49
You know, the books especially kind of concern me because the best of my knowledge again, this is Johannes surrounded by a bunch of three point shooters.
00:42:56
So we might get stuck in a battle in this next game where they're hitting threes and we're hitting choose.
00:43:01
And then the numbers are just not gonna add out at the end.
00:43:03
So what, You know, it's gonna be an interesting matchup.
00:43:07
Jazz.
00:43:08
Same thing You're worried about three point shooting for the bucks.
00:43:10
I'm worried about the health of Anthony Davis because I think that that asking David doesn't playing this game.
00:43:14
It's gonna take a 45 15 and 13 game from LeBron in order for them to even have a chance at winning.
00:43:20
The Milwaukee Bucks are awesome.
00:43:21
They are juggernaut without a healthy 80.
00:43:25
I think the Lakers, like Chris, mentioned, they're gonna have a hard time keeping up on the scoreboard and more than anything else, and that just has to do with firepower.
00:43:31
But if 80 is healthy, I'd like to see the Lakers trying to slow the game down a little bit more grinding mode as much as they can.
00:43:37
Inside.
00:43:38
Use your event with 80 and then get Dwight Howard JaVale McGee to get some of those put backs and and those back to back door cut kind of dunks where they're they're feeding off of the penetration and getting love.
00:43:47
So to me, I want to look at the Lakers trying not getting to attracting these guys, slow it down and try and beat them with the advantage that you have.
00:43:53
What might be inside with Anthony Davis agreed.
00:43:56
Yeah, you definitely have to try to do that.
00:43:57
I'm really curious to see how they handle Brook Lopez, who's gonna be trying to pull the Lakers Biggs away from the basket we saw today.
00:44:02
That could be an issue when you had Myles Turner pulling Dwight Howard and pulling JaVale McGee away from the basket.
00:44:07
That could be tough.
00:44:08
That's not something that they want to do.
00:44:10
And the Lakers kind of just lived with Myles Turner shootings and threes, and he made a few of them.
00:44:14
So gonna be interesting to see how they handle that.
00:44:17
But, yeah, it is gonna come down to the Lakers into your game.
00:44:19
Can you beat up the bucks on the inside with shofar? Teams haven't really been able to, because Brook Lopez has been pretty good protecting the rib.
00:44:27
But can you take advantage of the size difference that you're gonna have in there? Or will the Bucks kind of continue to do what they do? And when they continue it, hit threes and still protect the rim? The Bucks are the top team in terms of net rating, have a net rating of 12.
00:44:40
4, which is ridiculous.
00:44:42
The Lakers net rating is second at 8.7.
00:44:45
They are first in the n B A in defense of rating and second in the end, being offensive ratings.
00:44:50
So they have a really good offense, a really good defense.
00:44:53
Uh, this is just a very good team that's really firing on all cylinders.
00:44:57
As of right now, there are four in the N B A in three pointers made.
00:45:01
They are S o.
00:45:03
They're shooting a ton of them, but they are actually 13th in three point percentage at the moment.
00:45:07
So maybe you could get them to miss some shots, But ultimately, I think this game's gonna come down to defense.
00:45:12
Can you get the Bucks to miss enough shots to get out in transition and score on them and not have to deal with their half court defense? And they're gonna be doing the same thing the other way? Can they get stops and then run on the Lakers and get easier looks without having to deal with the Lakers half court defense? Both teams are great defensively, going to come down to whichever team.
00:45:30
Honestly, we say it's a maker mislead, and maybe that's a little bit of a cop to cop out, but it's gonna come down to whichever team can get stops and forced Mrs from their opponent.
00:45:37
That's that's pretty much going to determine the narrative bind this game.
00:45:41
Yeah, that's what I'm hoping we see.
00:45:43
We see a fully healthy and me talking to fully healthy 100% but it's close to 100% f b Davis that you can, because you only get this matchup place a year, right? Both teams 24 4 just put your gloves on, Duke it out.
00:45:54
Let's see the best team is gonna win.
00:45:56
But I agree with you in the sense that it's gonna be key for the Lakers, too, to control the pace of the game, though I do think that's gonna be huge for them, because if you're getting into ah, game, that's gonna hit the 1 15 1 20 mark.
00:46:07
I don't like the Lakers were gonna have a chance at winning that.
00:46:09
I think it's in the low hundreds like it was today or even Ah, hi, 90.
00:46:13
Not unhappy teams are so good, but I think the Lakers got a limit the possessions and try and take advantage of what they have with LeBron and Anthony Davis and and use the pick and roll a lot more.
00:46:22
You know what I mean? Because you got put.
00:46:24
If you go Johannes on if you go, you honest on a d or you go Johannes on LeBron.
00:46:29
I mean, I don't know if they'll do that that much, but exposed the other guy, whoever Whoever's guarding one of your big too.
00:46:33
And I think it's gonna be up to those two guys to carry the Lakers to a wayto Yeah, agreed.
00:46:38
That's what they're gonna have to do.
00:46:39
They're gonna have to unleash that pick and roll, because that's gonna be a pretty good scoring option for them.
00:46:45
Uh, So, Chris, there's a comment here.
00:46:48
It says Mavs just beat them from coming in from YouTube.
00:46:52
What do you think? The fact that the bucks just lost to the Mavs.
00:46:56
Does that help the Lakers or hurt the Lakers in terms of the mentality of the bucks coming into this game? Well, I know the Mavs have don't they have their main players down and, yeah, gallant just down.
00:47:13
So I mean there.
00:47:14
I mean, if anything, I guess both teams are gonna come in the Thursday pretty fired up for W.
00:47:20
So if anything, that loss probably hurts them, because now the books are really gonna want to win this game.
00:47:25
Seeing is that they lost against the Maps without Luca, which is probably actually, you know, I don't want to see.
00:47:31
It's embarrassing cause I know the maps are still good team.
00:47:33
But whenever you lose, it lose to a team in their top players down, that's not That's a good thing.
00:47:38
So you know specifically for the Lakers, it can't be good for them to lose, because then I think we're gonna get the best of the Bucks.
00:47:43
But remember the Lakers? We don't lose two games in a row, so I know they're going into this game, you know, ultra focused.
00:47:51
Yeah, I kind of wonder if Milwaukee was looking ahead to the Lakers game in a little bit against the maps, because that's like the maps kind of took advantage of the Lakers in that way.
00:47:59
And I'm wondering if that's part of what happened there with the Bucks.
00:48:03
Were they just looking ahead because that's their next game on the schedule? Is the Lakers.
00:48:06
Maybe they were looking ahead to this big matchup because it's the one that's got all the hype behind it.
00:48:11
It's the one that's gonna have all the eyeballs on him.
00:48:13
So I wonder if the map just happened to catch the bucks at the right time.
00:48:18
Yeah, I I go with that, too.
00:48:19
I mean, it's almost like this game, you know, if Anthony Davis played this game, the Lakers, the Laker is probably, you know, easily win.
00:48:25
But we talked a little bit about that on on Sunday.
00:48:28
Trucker out to be Atlanta game.
00:48:30
That's okay.
00:48:31
The Lakers played pretty **** ugly.
00:48:33
They didn't have a lot going for him to them, and they looked like they were.
00:48:35
They were just gonna sleep walking out there and maybe looking ahead a little bit too much.
00:48:38
And and I think that's what happened with the Bucks.
00:48:40
But again, I've said this before.
00:48:41
The Mavericks are not a team. Just need that.
00:48:43
Like you said.
00:48:44
I mean, they can fill it up and hit 20 three's on you any night.
00:48:45
Which is gonna keep most teams in the game of the MBA.
00:48:48
Yeah, yeah, that's that's is that the Mavs are a good team without Don six.
00:48:52
Sometimes sometimes teams step up right, like the name after they lose a star.
00:48:57
You see these random games where you go? Okay, well, they're clearly not that good anymore.
00:49:01
And then you have all the role players step up and they play pretty well.
00:49:04
I think the Lakers kind of had that effect a little bit tonight.
00:49:06
Um, yeah, but over the long term, the Mavs, they're gonna hurt from losing, Don't say.
00:49:10
But in that immediate reaction, you see, guys step up and do things and and play well so you can have that kind of effect.
00:49:18
I think that may have been part of what was that player? Plus the bucks.
00:49:21
Maybe looking ahead regardless, right, Regardless of what not whether or not the Bucks loss, though, I think they were going to give whatever their best is.
00:49:28
They're gonna throw it at the Lakers, and I think the Lakers were gonna throw their best of the bucks.
00:49:34
That's gonna be a hell of a matchup.
00:49:35
I mean, both teams losing tonight and then going into that game, I mean, I think everybody was there.
00:49:40
Probably everybody was just overlooking tonight's opponents looking at Thursday's game, you know? Yeah, I think I may have been May have been part of the part of the equation here.
00:49:50
Alright, guys.
00:49:51
Let's, uh, let's wrap things up their final thoughts.
00:49:54
Final thoughts.
00:49:55
Chris, when we go to your first what your final thoughts from from tonight.
00:49:59
And if you had a player of the game, who would you give that to? Oh, player of the game? I guess. Probably.
00:50:07
Dwight Howard.
00:50:08
I just saw a lot of good activity out in out of him tonight, and it was good to see and Final Thoughts is again.
00:50:14
I think even without a B, we have a great team.
00:50:17
And, uh, you know, they fell short tonight, But you can understand No way d no coups.
00:50:21
Indianapolis on a Tuesday, they got this huge game Thursday.
00:50:25
There's no I was disappointed in the moment when we lost as we will already together, but, you know, about 10 seconds later, you know, I let it wash off Preston Preston off my shoulder and we just kind of look forward jazz.
00:50:39
I'm gonna say that Chris was underplaying it, that he was a lot more than disappointed here.
00:50:43
Now, Yeah, Miguel had to hear about your phone, but I You know what they played.
00:50:49
I think.
00:50:50
I think they played their hearts.
00:50:51
They played really well.
00:50:52
It was a matter of one or two plays here.
00:50:54
Free throw here or there, three pointer here or there, missing two of your top three guys.
00:50:59
I think this is a hell of an effort and they know they could play with.
00:51:02
They can play with teams, even if they're not fully loaded.
00:51:04
So to me it was a good loss and and the 1st 1 to see that first time with that? I say that and play the game, Yeah, I mean, I I would be.
00:51:12
I'm just trying to be Ah ah, jackets.
00:51:15
If I don't say Dwight Howard, it's white.
00:51:16
Outward played often.
00:51:17
They needed somebody else to step off other than LeBron 20.
00:51:19
6 rebounds with it was a beast down there, so I'd go with Dwight all day.
00:51:23
Yep, I'm gonna agree with you guys there. I think there's no question.
00:51:26
Maybe it was an easy question, but 20 points, 10 of 10 from the field can't argue that throwback game for Dwight.
00:51:31
Hopefully, there's more where that came from.
00:51:34
Coming up on Thursday.
00:51:35
Big game against the Milwaukee Bucks.
00:51:37
Can't wait to see how the Lakers respond.
00:51:38
Can they bounce back from this loss, or will the Bucks bounce back from their own loss to the Dallas Mavericks? O great one to check out.
00:51:46
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00:51:47
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00:51:50
That's Thursday evening when the Lakers take on the Milwaukee Bucks.
00:51:53
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00:51:54
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00:51:55
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00:51:59
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00:52:02
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00:52:04
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00:52:05
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00:52:06
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00:52:09
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00:52:12
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00:52:17
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00:00:00
Hello Lakers Been welcome in to the Lakers Nation postgame show.
00:00:04
We're breaking down the Lakers unfortunate loss to the Indiana Pacers.
00:00:07
We'll talk all about it.
00:00:08
My name's Trevor Lane and senior writer for Lakers Nation Dr Up Time Energy drinks.
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How energy should feel fine with 7 11 GI NST and amazon dot com Lakers ruling to Indiana short handed.
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We're gonna break everything down.
00:00:22
Joining me tonight is Jazz King and Chris the Masterpiece Masters Guys.
00:00:27
Tough one. Tough one.
00:00:29
But we could kind of feel this one coming Jazz.
00:00:31
What did you think about what we saw tonight from the Lakers? Honestly, I love the upper from the team, you know, playing shorthanded without to your best three offensive players, obviously.
00:00:40
But who's been out and then a d Now you know, with a bit of ah, sore ankle like Dwight Howard.
00:00:45
Look what he did out there.
00:00:46
Avery Bradley, 13 points.
00:00:47
Alex Caruso, 11 points.
00:00:48
They were right there.
00:00:49
Well, cost in this game, I think you could just look at the numbers free throw shooting. You can't lose.
00:00:53
You can't shoot eight of 17 47% and expect to be the team that I like that.
00:00:57
And they lost by free.
00:00:58
So to me, it was just simply the free throw shooting.
00:01:00
But they were right there.
00:01:01
And I don't think a lot of people expected that once you found out 80 wasn't gonna be able to play earlier today.
00:01:06
Yeah, I agree. 100%.
00:01:07
Of course.
00:01:08
You want this there on that one? Yeah.
00:01:10
I mean, you know, just like Jack said.
00:01:13
I mean, the free throw shooting, they were under 50% on free throws, I think is what they finished with.
00:01:17
And I mean, I can't hold this one against them personally again with no.
00:01:21
80 no coups.
00:01:23
And then we got this big game with the bucks coming up.
00:01:26
You could also almost see something like this happening.
00:01:28
I did feel like we were actually gonna win the game its end points.
00:01:31
And I thought they played very well in certain sports of the game.
00:01:34
But you know what you're gonna do.
00:01:36
You know, you're not always gonna win every game, obviously.
00:01:38
And where 24 for now. Yeah.
00:01:40
The away from Staples winning streak is broken.
00:01:42
They were undefeated away from Staples Center and now they have suffered a loss of the ends of the Indiana Pacers.
00:01:48
But, you know, the thought popped into my head.
00:01:50
There was about five minutes left in the game, and I'm watching it.
00:01:52
And I thought, Gosh, win or lose, I'm pretty happy with this.
00:01:56
Give me Don't get me wrong.
00:01:57
I want to see a win.
00:01:59
But I'm happy with the way these guys played with the way they went out there and competed. I know.
00:02:03
I know for me personally.
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And you guys were saying the same thing on our text chain there, Uh, this was gonna be a tough one.
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And we knew what? We were kind of going into it going.
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Oh, no, Davis, you've got no Kuzma.
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The Pacers have some size.
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This could be a really, really tough outing.
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But I thought the Lakers really stepped up and took on the challenge.
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Those guys all came out and played with fire and played with passion and played to win.
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Yeah, they came up a little bit short, but it's not like they just mailed it in and said, Oh, we're clearly not gonna win this one.
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They came out there, did everything they could to win the game.
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I thought we might see a Lakers team that was looking ahead to the Bucks.
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And to their credit, they were not.
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They went out and played hard on every single possession, and I give them all the credit, the world for doing what they did tonight.
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I agree. 100%.
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Trevor. You know what I mean? I look at what? The bench guys.
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They combined for 53 points, the same benchmarks that combined for 18 against Atlanta last game.
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So obviously those guys stepped it up once they knew that.
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No, A d And you know, you still obviously have LeBron, which gives you a chance to win.
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Really? Any game you're playing into in the n b A.
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But when they when we saw that, I mean, that was the first thing I had with in my mind was Okay.
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The bench is going to be able to step up today.
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That 24 combined at halftime, 29 in the second half. Options.
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Dwight Howard of 10 and 10.
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So 10 of 10 part of me from the field when I'm looking at it, I agree with you.
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I think this is almost like their first good loss of the season.
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We're like, Okay, you know, they did everything they could to win this one.
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The Pacers just made some extra plays.
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Obviously, the free throw line and the mystery throws work disappointing, of course, but still have a chance to win this game when you're missing two year three best guys, it shows how much like to have in this team as well.
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Yeah, I mean, look, the free throws.
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That was really the game, right? There were eight of 17 from the line, 47% and then they were 25 26% from 38 of 31 shooting.
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That's it.
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That's the game right there.
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A few missed shots, some miss free throws, and that's the difference. And here's the thing.
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And we were talking about this before we went on the air.
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When you don't have have Anthony Davis, the margin of error that you have just goes down and you can see that you can't shoot that percentage from the free throw line and that percentage from three, and expect to pick up a win when you don't have both LeBron and 80.
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It was unfortunate that it happened in this one the way it did.
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But again, it's not for lack of trying.
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It's not like these guys came out and just mailed in their performances and looked ahead of the game against the Bucks.
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Yeah, and I really like, you know, you guys were talking about liking what we saw its matter.
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A lot of guys.
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I mean, specifically Dwight Howard.
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Alice grew so Avery Bradley.
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I liked what I saw.
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A lot of a lot of these guys tonight in terms of on the defensive end, Dwight Howard cleaning up the mess and, you know, going 10 for 10.
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It was again.
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It wasn't necessarily bad loss like you guys were saying it like I was actually telling you guys earlier.
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This might be a good loss going into this big game against the Bucks on Thursday.
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It'll sharpen them up like they said, they don't want to lose two games in a row.
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Excuse my dog out there.
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She's apparently barking at somebody, but they don't They don't want to lose two games in a row, so we're gonna go that much sharper into that big game that we have against the Bucks.
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We know that with our full squad, we could beat the Pacers.
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Let's put it that way.
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So your dog is basically also upset about the Lakers.
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Lost, lost and fired up.
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Not look like you said.
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It's I don't know if there is such thing as a good loss, but if there is, this was it, right? I mean, this this was the game where you kind of felt like they were gonna be maybe a little bit outmatched.
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It was gonna be a tough one there on the road there in the middle of a long road trip, and they still almost came out with a win.
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Pretty impressive stuff overall.
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And then again, like you said, maybe it will sharpen them up for their game against the Bucks.
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That's kind of the glass is half full. Take there.
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So far, every time they've lost, they've responded with a long win streak.
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So we'll see.
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Who knows? Maybe this is the start of another Wings to win streak, and they're gonna come take out the Bucks, the Nuggets and the Clippers in a row.
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And then we'll be really excited on Christmas Day.
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Yeah, you know what I mean? That's gonna be a big one against Milwaukee.
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I don't know how much of a chance the Lakers will have without 100% anti Davis.
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I think that could get scary.
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But one thing they also got to sharpen up a little bit.
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Man, The three point shooting, 13 and 62 combined the last two games.
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That's, like 20 just under 21%.
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So they've got to find a way to start hitting their open jumpers.
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I don't mean it.
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A lot of them have been open.
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It's not like they're taking a lot of contested three's other than maybe LeBron.
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But they need to kind of work on on getting back to making those, because after today I remember Trevor.
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We were talking about it after one of the games.
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They're upto fifth in the league in three point shooting and then after a planet it was so close, they fill the 12.
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I'm sure after today they're gonna be a lot, a lot further down the down the rankings with that too.
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So for me, I think that's one thing they're gonna look at an address and how to how to make sure they're kind of getting and hitting more open threes out there.
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Yeah, that's just that Can you find a way to knock those down? And Frank Vogel, when they were struggling in the beginning of the season, kept saying that he wanted to make sure his team was turning down good shots in exchange for great shots he wanted find wide open looks.
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And so I think we'll see him go back to that mantra.
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Tried to get them to make the extra pass in order to get more open looks.
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But I did feel like they had some good open looks that just rimmed out.
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I mean, look, that final shot by Rondo was pretty open and he almost knocked it down.
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And look, a lot of people are gonna be questioning Why is run over taking that shot? He's actually been one of their better three point shooters on the season on he almost hit.
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It's just verily went in and out.
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So, you know, a fraction of an inch and that thing hits bottom, so can't be too disappointed.
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There.
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You just gotta hope that they do find a way to knock them down over the coming over this next coming what week we can have, then you think based on what we're seeing I mean, we really I know you were talking about the trade market being open out everything.
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I just I wonder if there's almost be nice to have somebody who is a consistent, deadeye shooter, because I feel like we have some good shooters, but they almost all of them feel streaky to some extent.
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So I don't know exactly who was on the market are how we could match ups, you know, make that kind of trade work or if there is anybody, but we definitely need it.
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What do you think? Jazz.
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I I I'm with you, man.
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I think that's one thing we've talked about again, and we're kind of spilled milk here because the team's 24 let's forget that.
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And then they played a hell of a game see with like I said to one of the best three all offensive players without 80 and Cruz.
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But that's one thing that we've looked at and said OK, now in the regular season, it did kind of item today, almost victim against Atlanta, but you're worried about what's gonna happen in April and May as we get into the playoffs, and so were the way I'm looking at it on.
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That is the fact that, yeah, if you can get into the bio market or get somebody on the cheap Ah, good outside shooter.
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That's one thing they're going to have to address at some point.
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Because to me, Troy Daniels, obviously not not doing what he was brought in to do, and Quinn Cook has been, you know, invisible the entire time, basically, other than one or two good games that he's had so far in terms of the outside shooting.
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What about you guys? Well, yeah.
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I mean, look, here's the thing Way said What was the one thing the Lakers addressed over the offseason? We would have said shooting right? I mean, aside, landing Anthony Davis in the Second Star and all that.
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I mean, the one thing they addressed in terms of role players was shooting Danny Green, Quinn Cook, Troy Daniels.
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All these guys, they they brought in their supposed to all be able to knock down shots, but it just hasn't quite been happening, not at a level that you would like to see it, but, you know, Danny Green on the night can complain to of 4 50% from three.
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That's totally fine.
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But it's the rest of the guys, the ac***ulation of them one of four from Avery Bradley, two of five.
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Alex Cruz obviously find O of six from LeBron, one of four from from Dudley.
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When you add all those up, it starts to ah starts to really take its toll on your three on your three point percentage.
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I don't know if the solution is to go out there and hit the trade market and find somebody who is just a great shooter like a J J Red**** type.
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That's a name that we saw pop up today as somebody that the Pelicans are still kind of reluctant to deal.
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But I feel like the shooting is on the roster.
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They just have to figure out a way to knock him down.
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Yeah, I mean, that's where maybe Frank Vogel can get.
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I mean, I don't want to sit here and act like, Oh, you know, this is an awful performance and, you know, obviously I said No, I've said this before.
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They won 24 out of the 1st 28 games, so they're doing a lot, right? I just think maybe next time you have a disease, not not gonna be able to play in Milwaukee and you don't have shoes.
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Maybe run a few more set pieces to try and get guys more open.
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Look, Casey, she's been pretty pretty good from three Point Land recently.
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Hopefully, Danny Green starts to get going after this performance today, but I'm worried about it happening on a consistent basis from one of the guys outside of LeBron a d.
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In terms of getting offensive production you want, you want to hope to either see somebody that be able to hit, especially the three point line.
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That's what Danny Green has bought it for.
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So I hope you get that rolling now.
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Yeah, hopefully they can figure out a way to get those guys to start knocking down shots.
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Chris was there anybody who stood out to you today in this game? Anybody a knowledge LeBron player that you thought really played pretty well.
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It sounds like somebody's tapping out Morse code 11 year makes by the way, guys, Sorry.
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Let me guess where you typing out Master Lock? Yes, I think.
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What? Dwight Howard stood out to me honestly, the night he was doing a lot of damage in the pain and really, I mean, he was 10 for 10.
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How many rebounds that he had? Six rebounds, two blocks? I just really felt like it was a good game out of Dwight tonight, and he really stood out to me and additions.
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Obviously.
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Like I said before Caruso and Bradley, they looked like they were all over the place.
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Defensively, I don't We see the Crusoe where Bradley helping out defensively when they can, you know, trying to trap guys or anything like that.
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So those three guys tonight specifically? Yeah.
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Chris, you know what we? One of our colleagues from Lakers Nation, Cory hands for it was tweeting out that he still can't believe that at this point in season, he is cheering this loudly for Dwight Howard.
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10 of 10 from the field tonight.
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20 points, six boards, two blocks.
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This was this was like a throwback Orlando Magic Dwight Howard game.
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I mean, he was He was really impressive.
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He really stepped up.
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Um, I'm still in disbelief.
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Chris I know coming from your perspective, you probably can't believe that Dwight Howard is doing these things that he's doing, either.
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Oh, yeah, I mean, especially he's a baby face in L.
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A.
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Now and I know you guys. We talked about this before.
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Dwight Howard was a taboo topic out here.
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You did not talk about Dwight Howard.
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We do not like him.
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And now he's loved in the city and he's doing Ah, it's just it's great to see a redemption story like this play out in front of us.
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I mean, branded.
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We still need him to play big minutes later in the season.
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That's when it's really gonna count.
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But it's nice to see him really embracing Los Angeles to this extent, and you know, to the point where he's even dying his braids purple.
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That's right, Chris, can I ask you something about that? So we saw the transformation with Dwight Howard's body, you know, throat the summer in terms of bulkier, heavier, carrying a lot more, but a lot more lean now.
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How much work we had to put into that would not be diet based or kind of the exercises that he's doing in the gym in order to shed that wait and get a little bit later, because he looks so much quicker on his feet now than he did lethargic with Washington a bit last year and as well, a stop in Charlotte.
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Yeah, he looks like he, probably as in taking a lot less calories, first of all, and then probably just doing a lot more aerobic activity than even weightlifting.
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I know that's been usually the case for me whenever I have had a couple of points in my career, where I dropped the significant out of Matt away.
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Being that 10 15 I don't know if I've ever dropped £20 but you know, obviously, you know, the thing is is when you dropped that amount of way, too.
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You feel so much lighter on your feet.
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So Dwight Howard probably feels like five years younger, just tearing around West.
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Wait on the basketball court.
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A lot of that muscle you had.
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It looked really good and it would look great if he was like a wrestler, for instance.
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But, you know, for an MBA court, I don't think it's necessary.
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I think he still has much strength and brute force.
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Even at a lighter weight, at least on the basketball court.
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Yeah, Don't you go ahead.
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Just Chris has more by muscle in his left, By the way, went to the right guy for the question.
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About about musculature.
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Hey, uh, hey, just we've got a debate raging here in our chat with some people saying LeBron had a bad game.
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Others people saying, What are you talking about? LeBron did not have a bad game.
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Did LeBron James have a bad game tonight? Well, I think if you watch the Pacers defense, a lot of them were where they were cracking down it, basically plugging up the lane any time he was trying to drive.
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Use eight for 20 from from the field.
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And, you know, they're even on that last drive there against Miles shorter.
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We pulled up for that free.
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He was almost doing that from a point that there was nobody.
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There is nothing available to him.
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He got he got to the pain a couple times and he pulled back out.
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And you know, Danny Green was open in the in the corner, but it's almost like those guys were staying home so are not staying home.
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They were helping out to me.
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I mean, I don't think he had a great game offensive and you could never complain when a guy's 29 9 you use a diamond, a rebound short of a triple double.
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But I just think that he had to deal with.
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Everybody came on it today to try and stop it, and that's the faces knew they had to do in order to get a win.
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Yeah, I mean, look, I look at his stat line and I think eight of 20 from the field, so if he makes one more shot, two more shots and if he had a couple of free throws, if he's six of eight, right, this is a win and we're talking about what a great game.
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LeBron, How'd right? That's how that's the how close that is, That razor's edge, where LeBron you look at his stat line, you go 20 points, nine boards, nine assists.
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But he missed some free throws and he missed a few shots more, maybe a few more than they normally would and everybody points at him and go so clearly he didn't have a good game again.
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We're talking about a tiny small, a small margin of error there.
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And so I don't think it was a poor performance, but I thought some of the passes through tonight we're ridiculous.
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Chris, there's that passed that behind the back pass that he threw things to JaVale McGee.
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Oh, my God.
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That reminded me of Magic Johnson right there.
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I know you're a lifelong Laker fan, Chris.
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Where you having magic flashbacks like I was Oh, yeah.
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Obviously, when you see LeBron LeBron is the closest thing we've ever seen.
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The Magic Johnson.
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I remember the last time.
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Where What did he do? That between the lights To Dwight Howard? I was probably one of the dunks of the year.
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I mean, it's just it's amazing to see.
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And, you know, the crazy thing about LeBron to is he's much more of a physical specimen than even Magic Johnson was.
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So, uh, you know, it was a tough night for him going over six from three, the 54% from the line.
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But I mean again, just when he's out there, we have the best shot.
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I mean, if LeBron goes down, I have so much less faith in our team winning.
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But even tonight, with a D and cooze being down knowing that we had LeBron on the line up, I'm like, Oh, we got a good shot to win this one.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, that's what I thought, too. You like You've got LeBron out there.
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You've got a great chance.
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Uh, swaggy fan from from Periscope mentions the Dwight pass.
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Yeah, LeBron had multiple just highlight reel passes.
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The Dwight passes well, was another absolutely incredible one.
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Some people say not clutched LeBron and all that kind of stuff.
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I get it.
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Look, the five turnovers and all that.
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But still, you're nowhere close to winning this game without him.
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I didn't think his performance was all that bad.
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Yeah, he made some key errors, made some mistakes.
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But you clean up a few little things here and there, and the entire narrative flips.
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I'm saying it's not like it was a disaster game from him or anything like that.
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Um, food TV from YouTube.
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Jess.
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Without a D, the Lakers are nothing.
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Do you agree with that with that jazz, is it? If you don't have Anthony, Davis and LeBron are the Lakers just dead in the water.
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No, I still think that they would be a playoff team in the Western Conference and fighting for maybe the Saturn, maybe to succeed on things like really well for them.
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I don't need to be dead in the water.
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That's like saying, Well, if you think Ally Leonard off the off the L.
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A Clippers, are there gonna be any good? You take the honest scoop off the Milwaukee Boxter now.
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I don't think the Lakers are dead in the water.
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You still have LeBron James and the way he's played this year and how he's been the revenge season. Wash King.
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All the other hashtags he's putting out there, you know, he seems motivated.
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He seems ready, so I don't think the Lakers would be dead in the water at all.
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They're still a playoff team without a D.
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Now having a deal obvious that propels a championship contender status.
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But I mean, yeah, they would definitely be a death little most if you didn't have in terms of winning a championship.
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But they're still up pretty pretty good and, you know, talk 15 team in the n B A.
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What do you guys think? Well, absolutely.
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I agree.
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They be definitely top 15.
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I look at the way they got up for this game, and you can't expect that on a nightly if they just didn't have Anthony Davis.
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You couldn't expect this type of performance on nightly basis.
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That where the way Caruso stepped up, Dwight Howard going for 20 all that, they clearly all had it in their heads.
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We need to step up to make up for a D.
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But still, I think they'd be a top 15 team even without him.
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And that's you know, then with him, they're a top, you know, to team top three team.
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Whatever, right, Chris? Yeah. I like this team.
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They play well together, and it doesn't.
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You know, 80 is great.
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Obviously, we love a D.
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And he's gonna be our future for a long time.
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But I like this team comprised of everybody.
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I like Danny Green.
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I like Dwight Howard.
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I like Caruso.
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I mean, they're not trashed by any means.
00:18:21
All right, guys, I've got a real serious question for you.
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Hear? Coming from from Roman rays from YouTube, pineapple on pizza.
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Trevor with a with a question mark.
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I'm gonna let you guys weigh in first.
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Jazz does pineapple belong on pizza? And this is serious, serious stuff here? Yes, all day, Twice on Sunday.
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I say yes to pineapple pizza.
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Haven't find out, but you never go wrong with it.
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I originally I think I know where you're going with this.
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Trevor, I originally was with you, and I was a no pineapple on pizza guy.
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Although I did have some pineapple on pizza when I was in Alaska, and it was freaking beautiful.
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It was so good.
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So I had to say Pineapple does work in some cases on pizza.
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Okay, I I'm joking.
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I'm gonna be the guy on the island.
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I'm gonna say no.
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Pineapple does not belong on pizza.
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And I will tell you why.
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Here's the problem.
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People who order pineapple on pizza are **** selfish.
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Okay? Because you know what happens? You have people like me who don't don't like pineapple on pizza.
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You can't just order it on half.
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Because what happens is the pineapple juice, like seeps in to the rest of you.
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Get a pineapple taste.
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If you're that guy that has the half of the pizza that has no pineapple.
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It still tastes like pineapple.
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Have to order a whole extra pizza just to get the pineapple way from.
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And keep your pineapple off a pizza, People.
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Come on.
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Well, the very good point.
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Truck E.
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I know.
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My goodness.
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I told you, this is This is serious stuff.
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Way right.
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You are right about infecting the whole pizza.
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But really, it happens.
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And I've had this issue with my girlfriend before.
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It is an issue.
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It is an issue.
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Uh, Judge Juan Williams from Facebook says, same problem.
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Different game turnovers and free throws, the turnovers, You know, when it started off pretty sloppy, but then at the end of the game, they had 14 turnovers.
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Like That's not great.
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But that's not awfully like I'm okay with 14 turnovers in a game where you're missing to your better players.
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I didn't have an issue with that, so Yeah, it was ugly at some points.
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But then you go and you dig in a little bit deeper.
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You look at you know, the points off turnovers.
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They Both teams were tied at 13 points off turnovers.
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The Lakers only gave up eight fast break points that's been a problem with them in the past.
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I was actually okay with the pace they played at and with the turnovers tonight, I thought they were just fine.
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Yeah, I thought I thought they looked good.
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I thought they looked at as well.
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They had that ugly stretch in the beginning of the third quarter.
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You guys remember coming out of halftime and I was taking notes on that.
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They had scored 11 points in the 1st 8 minutes eight minutes of the third quarter and then scored basically electable.
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They scored 13 more at the last three and 1/2 minutes, so they started to get things rolling in a lot of those turnovers.
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We're coming in that time.
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I don't know the exactly known up atop my head, but I think there was 45 turnovers just in that little stretch of the game for the Lakers themselves.
00:21:09
So I mean again, I'm not gonna look at this and say, Oh, this was an awful lot something that that Mavericks lost people terrible.
00:21:16
The launch to the Raptors at home.
00:21:18
They look terrible today.
00:21:19
They look right there playing shorthanded.
00:21:21
I thought they did a lot of things right? Did they shoot themselves in the foot? The good part is playing without to your three best players.
00:21:27
You still had a chance to win against the 18 and 19 on their home court.
00:21:31
Anyone? It was two or three plays here and there.
00:21:33
LeBron and and and Dwight Howard on the free throws one more three points or changes the narrative of this game.
00:21:39
And if LeBron ends up scoring 24 points and hits a three an extra two free throws, we're talking about a superhuman effort by LeBron James, even though he would have ended with 25 points but led his team to a win without Anthony Davis in college.
00:21:49
Exactly.
00:21:50
It's amazing how much the narrative can change with one little thing here and there.
00:21:54
And it can completely turn things around changes that the perception of everything it's just it's just the way the world is the way it is, Andres Montoya says.
00:22:02
Trevor, I was going to send you a case of pineapples.
00:22:05
Keepem Andres, you hang out with a case of up time energy drink instead.
00:22:11
How about that? Um, Greg, Greg V said.
00:22:15
Do you guys know if 80 is playing against the Milwaukee Bucks.
00:22:20
I would hope so, being that he was a gametime call.
00:22:22
But nothing, Nothing official at this point, I haven't been checking Twitter there to see if anybody mentioned anything after the game just yet.
00:22:28
Uh, but I don't know if Ah, we're gonna talk about this.
00:22:32
Something just popped up.
00:22:33
We need to discuss here, but yeah, I, uh I don't know.
00:22:37
I I would say it looks like likely, but I kind of depends on how it responsibly.
00:22:41
Chris, you've dealt with injuries like this when you turn your ankle.
00:22:45
If you feel like you're pretty close to being able to play being able to compete, and then it's a few days later, chances are probably good that you're gonna be able to get the next one, right? Yeah.
00:22:56
And I think he'll be playing in the next one.
00:22:59
And I think that part of him sitting out might be the fact that we're playing the bucks in a couple days.
00:23:03
You know, maybe you just wanted to get that extra bit of hell time.
00:23:06
They know how important that game is.
00:23:08
I mean, right now we know who stands at the top of the whole MBA.
00:23:12
You know, between the bucks, Clippers, Lakers Pretty much, right? And I don't know, I guess the Mavs air probably up there somewhere.
00:23:18
But, you know, I think he's gonna play.
00:23:20
And I think it's going to be a fascinating matchup to watch on Thursday because of some of the things that we brought up, you know, in terms of I think, you know, the bucks are three point shooting.
00:23:31
Just a bunch of snipers right there, Right there.
00:23:33
We don't have shooting like that, so I don't know.
00:23:35
I think I think we'll have a d.
00:23:37
I'm crossing my fingers.
00:23:38
I'm open, We have him, so we'll see.
00:23:41
Yeah, Trevor, I got I got I got a question for you.
00:23:44
Would you Would you put on? Would you put on Janette's on Thursday? 80.
00:23:48
Idiot, baby, I put him on there.
00:23:49
Yeah, I know that you might be a little bit quicker, but eighties got the length to deal with them.
00:23:53
I mean, I'm not gonna like LeBron can spend some stretches on him, but he's too big to put Danny Green on him.
00:23:58
And he's too fast to put Dwight Howard or or JaVale on him.
00:24:02
So and realistically, it's going to be a team defensive effort on him.
00:24:05
But I think you got to go 80 getting the majority of the minutes.
00:24:09
And that may tire amount.
00:24:10
But again, it's kind of what you have to do.
00:24:12
You don't really have much of a choice there.
00:24:14
What? What? Sorry.
00:24:16
One more question. What is out there? You go back.
00:24:18
You start LeBron on them right away.
00:24:19
Or do you kind of go with I wear? Gonna say Casey V.
00:24:23
I don't I don't think that I'm ready.
00:24:25
Like Leonard.
00:24:27
That's just mean kcp man.
00:24:30
Do you sacrifice Jared Dudley to him? Oh, I mean, charity.
00:24:36
You could see if you're done with them.
00:24:39
Maybe that was just a couple of technicals ejected.
00:24:42
That would be the best defense right now.
00:24:44
Reduced. Going to slap him a couple times.
00:24:46
Way to do it.
00:24:48
By the way, guys, we've been talking about this every week about how the Lakers the teams were going to get up to play the Lakers.
00:24:54
Malcolm Brogdon called this game the biggest win of the Pacer season in the postgame, which yes, like this is this that validates everything we've been saying, and I'm not trying to say that I was like, Oh, the Lakers were so great And every other team's gonna is so fired up to play them because the Lakers are so much better And although they just they understand there's gonna be more eyeballs on this game than than anybody else.
00:25:14
I'm not tryingto, you know, look down on any other teams and say, Oh, it's only the Lakers that fans tune in for but teams no players know that.
00:25:22
They're gonna have a lot of eyeballs on them when they're playing the Lakers. So it is.
00:25:25
And the Pacers, to their credit, they played like this was their biggest game of the season, and they did what they needed to do to win.
00:25:31
So credit that I'm actually really like this Pacers team watching and seeing the play the way they work together, the way they cut off the ball.
00:25:37
That's a team I'm definitely gonna be trying to watch more of, just kind of in spare time.
00:25:41
That stuff well, you know, you know, it's interesting because I actually I would like to ask first.
00:25:46
That is well, you know, when you're playing, um, in these games like we're talking about how the Lakers opponents are always like, you know, the Lakers are coming to town.
00:25:53
The ticket prices on the secondary market always hire because it's in demand ticket.
00:25:57
So for you, Chris, like if you're if you're a wrestling and you know your time in the deputy, if you're going against, you know, a guy like John Sena, who are the big guys? Is there a different kind of like, you know, excitement and nervousness? Or is it the intensity that you have compared to if you were going against the Brooklyn brawlers, something along those lines? Oh, yeah.
00:26:15
Oh, yeah, definitely.
00:26:16
Just because, I mean, there would be a little different for a wrestling show because if the show was comprised of many matches and one game was considered a game, But, you know, there's definitely another level.
00:26:27
You bring it you, especially if you know, let's just say you're the main event of a show.
00:26:31
You know that.
00:26:32
And you're on with a, uh, John Sena.
00:26:34
Are Shawn Michaels or somebody you know that you have to close the show.
00:26:37
You know, you're out there with one of the best in the business.
00:26:40
So you know, to go back to what you're saying.
00:26:42
You know, I'm sure that when the Lakers go up against these teams that we're talking about, they're going into these games with that type of mindset.
00:26:49
They know it's just it's not just another Tuesday in Indianapolis.
00:26:52
This is, you know, read it.
00:26:54
It is Milwaukee, but you know, it's no walk in there.
00:26:56
The Bucks and they're a top team in the league.
00:26:58
So they're going approach it like that.
00:27:00
Whether they say it or not.
00:27:01
You know, that guy's probably say they're going to approach it just like any other game.
00:27:05
But, you know, you definitely approach those moments like much more, and you Sometimes they're on autopilot in some of the situations, like, you know, even tonight.
00:27:13
You know, at some point they might have been on autopilot and then they were able to pick it up.
00:27:17
And, you know, you just you get yourself up to another level for those big games of those big matchups.
00:27:23
Yeah, that's that's the case.
00:27:25
That's case across all sports.
00:27:26
When there's that big contest, you know that it's gonna be whether it's it's L.
00:27:30
A Galaxy versus L A F C.
00:27:32
Whether it's Dodgers versus Giants.
00:27:34
Whatever.
00:27:35
Yankees Red Sox right team teams get up for those big, big matchups, right? 40 Niners vs Falcons.
00:27:41
Right.
00:27:42
Those air, Those are the big ones.
00:27:43
That team for e was gonna do something that we should have done on the camera. Wait.
00:27:52
Sorry, Jack.
00:27:53
Cheap shot.
00:27:54
I don't think they lock you lost before 19 at home.
00:27:56
It's okay.
00:27:59
Yeah, that's that's that is what everybody hated.
00:28:02
The Niners look great, by the way.
00:28:03
And and their and their defense has got me to the championship round of my one of my fantasy fantasy league.
00:28:09
So hoping that we'll hopefully the police got there.
00:28:12
Congratulations on doing that.
00:28:14
Because I was into and I was terrible boat. Oh, yeah.
00:28:17
I'm in the championship in two out of five, So I'm feeling pretty good about that.
00:28:21
This 40% for you.
00:28:23
I'll take it.
00:28:24
I'll tell you if only the Lakers could shoot 40% from three.
00:28:27
Yeah.
00:28:28
Yeah.
00:28:32
Uh, I've got a good take here from Albert Jones from Facebook.
00:28:35
A Laker loss every two and 1/2 weeks is doable.
00:28:39
Smiley face, Right, right.
00:28:41
like looking at the big picture guys A like they won.
00:28:46
They've won so many games there, 24 4 I think about it was it was just a few years ago.
00:28:51
They won 17 games total all season 1 17 games there, 24 4 on periscope.
00:29:00
I've got Simms, Emma Mae says.
00:29:01
Chris, the clicker masters give his new thing has drawn heat by clicking.
00:29:13
Yeah, right.
00:29:14
There you go, christen quicker ministers, that's what.
00:29:17
We're gonna go with that one.
00:29:18
A lot of people right now are chimed in, saying that they are concerned about LeBron's free throw shooting, and there is becoming a bigger problem.
00:29:26
They're worried about it, particularly in crunch time situations.
00:29:29
Are you guys worried at all about LeBron's free throw shooting, or do you think he's gonna make him when the count? I mean, we saw we saw LeBron miss a couple free throws, but and then, you know it was getting to me.
00:29:43
But then a couple of minutes later, that the end of the fourth quarter, we saw him hit his last two.
00:29:47
So I don't know if it's necessarily concerned.
00:29:49
I mean, it is the one part of his game.
00:29:51
That looks like it's, Ah, one week part of his game right now, but I don't know.
00:29:55
I have faith.
00:29:56
It seems like every season usually turn.
00:29:58
This turns us around at some point and, you know, ends up bearing it a fairly decent percentage.
00:30:04
What do you think? Jazz.
00:30:05
You know what? That's been an issue since since it came here 66% last year.
00:30:09
68 this year.
00:30:10
The career 73% shooter? I don't know.
00:30:13
I mean, that's something that I wish that you could ask, and I know from my years play college basketball.
00:30:18
It just some guys can hit them consistently and just some guys don't.
00:30:21
It's not a matter of practice.
00:30:23
It's not a matter of anything else.
00:30:24
It's just you know what I mean? It's a it's not as easy as it looks.
00:30:27
Should he be hitting Maur at his level? Absolutely.
00:30:30
But I think LeBron is what he is at this point.
00:30:32
I've also seen him that but shot free throws a lot of times in his career, and I've seenem institute time, so I think that's what you're getting with him.
00:30:38
He's not Steph Curry.
00:30:39
He's not played Thompson.
00:30:40
He's not Steve Nash, where you guarantee they're gonna shoot 90% year in and year out.
00:30:44
He This is what he is from the free throw line, and he's been the whole time he's been in the NBA.
00:30:48
Here's the thing that I think we see with free throws, and this is why people freak out so much about them.
00:30:52
It's because you can go in your driveway and shoot free throws, right? Like LeBron LeBron can drive down the lane, fly into the air and then throw behind the back pass on the on the money and lead to, Ah, just a ferocious slam.
00:31:06
Most people can't do that right, so if he blows that if something happens and you know the ball gets the ball, slams off somebody's chest and goes out of bounds or whatever, you know people are a little bit more forgiving of plays like that.
00:31:18
Where is miss free throws were like expecting them to make it.
00:31:20
It's almost like the kicker missing in football, right? It's that type of thing where you just expect them to make all of them not understand that it's actually really difficult to do I mean, look at Dwight Howard, who is a terrible free throw shooter, and there's that infamous board that the Lakers had when they first had him where they were keeping track average free throws in practice.
00:31:36
He was like an 82% free throw shooter.
00:31:38
It's just it's such a different environment.
00:31:40
And in the games, it's, Ah, it's a mental thing and it's really, really difficult to be able to hit those when you've got the entire reader there.
00:31:46
You've been playing a game, you're tired.
00:31:48
All of those things matter.
00:31:49
And yes, LeBron's a professional.
00:31:51
Yes, you should be able to knock him down.
00:31:52
But I'm saying it's it's not just a gimme that he's going to make all of them.
00:31:55
He's 68% for the line for the season.
00:31:59
I'd love to hit for him to be up in the low seventy's, but I think of anything.
00:32:03
I'd like to see him shooting Maur of them.
00:32:04
He's at a career low 5.
00:32:06
4 free throws per game.
00:32:08
I'd like to see him get some more free throws off and get some more reps in up there at the line because I'm hoping that As the season goes on, he'll develop a little bit more of a rhythm.
00:32:15
That's that's so key to being able to knock those down there.
00:32:18
Just getting that rhythm, getting the reps, getting up there and hitting him.
00:32:22
Yeah, I agree with You know what? I think that a little bit of a byproduct of him getting less free throws this season has been the fact that Anthony Davis have been close to the hoop and kind of don't want clogging the lane, but is taking up a lot of the real estate, you know, in the paint and near the group.
00:32:35
But because I think LeBron has been very invested this year, I mean, he's had to meet some killer takes where he driving down the lane to buy out the top and throws it down.
00:32:42
So I don't know, but the case of oppression or anything like that.
00:32:45
But I do agree with you.
00:32:46
I think that he needs to get to a moment where he's shooting 14 15 16 free throws a game for a couple of times.
00:32:52
You know, 23 times in a row, er two times out of 56 game stretch to get that rhythm going, But again, I'm gonna stick with that.
00:32:58
I just think he's roughly a 70% free throw shooter that's gonna go down a little bit.
00:33:02
The end of games, especially retired.
00:33:03
You don't have the legs.
00:33:04
He's turning 35 what in a couple of weeks there.
00:33:06
So you know it's not gonna not gonna get easier for him on that front again.
00:33:10
I just think that it's not Yeah, like you're saying it's not as easy as people think it is that what you're shooting a free, so you should choose 100% from there.
00:33:16
It's like I think there's a lot of variables to it, But LeBron is what he is, and this was a concern when he was in Miami as well that he's not.
00:33:22
He's not a great free throw shooter.
00:33:23
He's got a clutch free throw shooter.
00:33:25
As Chris mentioned, he did hit a couple at the end there.
00:33:27
That's got to be back in it.
00:33:28
But I just think that's what he is that the time had this time from the free throw line.
00:33:32
Yeah, and you'll take it right.
00:33:34
I mean, look at like if that's his one flaw.
00:33:38
Okay? He's one of the all time greats, right? I mean, if he misses some free throws every now and then, Yeah, you'd love to see him knocked him down, but you'll you'll take that.
00:33:46
You'll take LeBron and missing a few free throws because he's going to give you 20 plus points plus plus nine boards and eight assists or eight boards and nine assists.
00:33:54
However, you wanna look at it right? He's going to do all those other things, so you just kinda gotta roll with it.
00:33:59
I'm not gonna nitpick too much over a few missed free throws that offends us.
00:34:03
And spans were all we contend to be unreasonable sometimes.
00:34:07
Yeah, he's not gonna hit every single free throw he hits.
00:34:09
And, you know, like you said, he does basically everything else.
00:34:14
So, of course, that everybody is gonna have a Achilles heel, so to speak.
00:34:18
So and that just for LeBron, it happens to be free throws.
00:34:21
But it's not to the extent of it.
00:34:23
You know, Shaquille O'Neal are Dwight Howard or anything where they're gonna have to LeBron.
00:34:27
But, you know, it could be a concern in the clutch for us.
00:34:30
Definitely so before we move on and just and just get to the Milwaukee Bucks game, there's one thing I want to address here, and that's I've got YouTube, J R L says Vogel, is overrated.
00:34:42
And then a few comments down free form.
00:34:46
Rico says Vocal coach of the year.
00:34:51
Differing opinions.
00:34:53
Clearly, right? Um, I don't look at this game.
00:34:56
I think this was Vogel Vogel.
00:34:58
Vogel blew it.
00:34:59
I actually thought something stood out that he did really well, just what was your take on Vogel? What we've seen from him so far, What we saw from him to this game.
00:35:08
I just want to start by saying that those two comments encapsulate today's world on the Internet.
00:35:12
So what's going on? I mean, 11 sided, want, agree argument, the other and the other.
00:35:17
But I love the job Frank Borman has done.
00:35:19
I think you've been very flexible and and and adapt, adapt to what the situation is, and then I mean what you lost.
00:35:26
They lost to a team that now 19 and nine on the road in a closed three point game.
00:35:30
I don't know what else he could have done differently.
00:35:32
Strategically, I like the fact that he put Jared Dudley in the in the lineup because it kind of gave the other guy's more continuity that play with each other a little bit on the second unit.
00:35:40
I like the fact that he still kept LeBron at 35 minutes.
00:35:42
You know, he could have given him four or five more just because the fact that didn't have a d I don't know complaint Frank Vogel so fine. But I think it's great.
00:35:49
You know it and you're coaching a team is 24 4 You have to get a lot the right buttons at the same time, People calling a moat.
00:35:55
You got a point to the record as well.
00:35:56
Yeah, 100% agreed.
00:35:58
And Chris, one of things I think Vogel is so good at.
00:36:01
By the way, Lakers lost 105102 and this one's super close one.
00:36:05
I think he's been really good at improvising and kind of just reading what's happening in the game and reacting.
00:36:10
You do that a ton in your wrestling matches.
00:36:13
You have to read and react to everything that's going on and sometimes you have to improvise.
00:36:17
How difficult is that in the moment when you've got the entire crowd watching you and waiting for your reaction and how you're going to respond to a situation? Uh, well, it can be difficult, but usually when you're in those type of situations your adrenaline is, so I and you're not really thinking as much as just reacting.
00:36:36
It's almost instantaneous.
00:36:38
So I think a lot of these guys when they get out on the court, it's just that, you know, you've heard them talk about game speed and everything.
00:36:44
I think things move so fast, you don't have a lot of time.
00:36:47
It's just like you said.
00:36:48
It's breathing, reacting and at a certain point you don't even ah really realize almost that the crowds there because you're so focused on the job ahead of what you're doing, an execution and everything like that Have you found yourself in a moment where, like you had to make a decision where something went wrong and you had to make a choice on what to do? And it was, and it was a moment they had to process something really quickly because that's something I think Vogel's been really good at has been, You know, when he when he can't just read and react to something when something shifts in the game coming up with an alternative plan, What's that like? Oh, yeah, Why? I've had certain matches where I was slated to be the bad guy.
00:37:27
And for whatever reason, the crowd was reacting to me like summer hunts.
00:37:31
The crowd doesn't exactly react as you want them to.
00:37:34
And I've had matches where you actually switch roles and you go from either the bad guy to the good guy or the good guys, the bad guy.
00:37:41
And you make that decision on the fly based on, like taking the temperature of the crowd and just, you know, it doesn't mean you have to give the audience what, you want it again.
00:37:48
I don't time out wrestling here, but you know it does.
00:37:51
You know, you do gotta make these judgment calls and, you know, that's kind of like what I think you're alluding to my friend Bogle's.
00:37:56
He's having to make these kind of decisions on the play, and we didn't see a lot of this out of Luke Walton last year again. I know we've talked.
00:38:03
We've all talked about that a lot.
00:38:04
So I really respect what we've seen out of Frank Vogel and the decisions he's made.
00:38:09
And again, this was our third choice coach, and he's doing this awesome.
00:38:13
Yeah, he absolutely is.
00:38:14
And I think you hit the nail on the head there, Chris.
00:38:16
It's not an easy thing to do, and sometimes you do have to kind of flipped the script today.
00:38:22
In the game, the Lakers had to go with these four guard lineups where they had.
00:38:26
You know, Caruso and Danny Green and KCP and Rondo out there along with, say, a Dwight Howard.
00:38:31
And at first they were definitely slowing the ball down and doing everything they could to try to limit the amount of our offensive possessions.
00:38:37
Which is exactly what you should do when you're up and your team relies on LeBron James and I thought they were handling that pretty well.
00:38:43
And then in the third quarter, Frank Vogel said, Okay, go when the Lakers were down and he knew they needed scoring.
00:38:49
It's time to throw caution to the wind, let them go out there and attack, even if it creates more offensive possessions because you can't just sit on the game.
00:38:56
You can't try to slow it down too much.
00:38:57
You might as well see if you can generate some offense.
00:38:59
And so he read the game perfectly in those moments, and it was a very quickly changing game, and he completely shifted his strategy with his his small ball units.
00:39:07
So just another example.
00:39:09
It seems like every game.
00:39:11
There's an example of a situation where Vogel reads what's happening and he responds in the right way, and it works out well for the Lakers.
00:39:17
And of course, you know they don't pick up the win today.
00:39:19
But the decision making for Vogel, I thought, was really, really good, and that's something that I've been really excited about from him this season.
00:39:25
It's like you said, Part of that is in contrast to what we saw from Luke Walton.
00:39:29
But part of this is just Frank Vogel is really good at his job.
00:39:32
I think we can we can kind of agree on that at this point.
00:39:36
Yeah, you're 100% right, man, I mean again and he had to deal with a lot of the question marks that people had about okay, they wanted to do that, you know, didn't want Frank Global.
00:39:46
That it was, though the Lakers hired Jason Kidd almost as like a backup plan that if something goes wrong with Frank Vogel early in the Seas, that Jason Kidd is gonna be the whispers about Jason Kidd becoming the coach.
00:39:56
We're gonna get louder and louder, and what we've seen now is that nobody's questioned the coach.
00:40:01
I think that's the first time ever heard.
00:40:02
I don't know if anybody else has in the convent, I mean, because you see them.
00:40:04
But I haven't heard one piece of criticism but before about Frank Vogel from from media members of the other players.
00:40:12
Anybody else I think he's been, he's been, ah, great addition to the team.
00:40:16
And let's be honest. I mean, I'm not saying what it is.
00:40:18
LeBron probably does a lot of the coaching as well, in terms of trying to figure things out in terms of offensively and where he's comfortable with helping go.
00:40:26
But at the same time, you gotta manage the rotation.
00:40:28
You gotta manage kind of the game flow because that's what basketball is.
00:40:30
You can't just say well, we're gonna run the 23 zone the entire time because if the team's killing it, you're obviously gonna have to switch out of it.
00:40:36
You have to adapt to what's happening on the fly.
00:40:38
And I think that has been the biggest strength.
00:40:40
Is that where is what move? All last year, a lot of it was based off.
00:40:43
Well, this is my game plan, and this is what I think is gonna work.
00:40:46
So the guys are gonna run it, come hell or high, right? Yeah, that's what we've been talking about this season is just that adaptability compared to what they had last season.
00:40:52
And you know what? You mentioned LeBron James kind of coaching things.
00:40:55
That's always been the criticism that LeBron is really the jam.
00:40:58
LeBron is really the coach, his team.
00:41:00
LeBron. He were doing whatever he says.
00:41:02
But I look at that.
00:41:03
I look at it.
00:41:04
Another strength for Vogel, right? He has managed to interact with LeBron James, not allow LeBron to overpower him.
00:41:10
I think he has LeBron's respect and I look at the way the way he relates to his assistant coaches, the way he brings in the opinions of LeBron of we've seen and bring in KCP.
00:41:21
We've seen bringing Rondo all these other voices.
00:41:23
He's not afraid to let go of the rope a little bit and create that buy in from the team and say, Hey, look, we're all part of this.
00:41:30
This isn't just this is what we're doing Everybody do what I say because I'm the coach and I think it's a very, very fine line to walk to be able to do that and still keep that respect and still keep that control.
00:41:41
But he's done a tremendous job at that.
00:41:45
No.
00:41:46
Yeah, I mean, totally agree.
00:41:47
This has been, uh, he's just done a hell.
00:41:50
Help a job coaching us.
00:41:51
We're lucky to have him.
00:41:53
So let's get into the Milwaukee Bucks game. Chris.
00:41:57
A lot of people have said This is the game that is gonna really be a test for the Lakers.
00:42:01
If they're not talking about the Clippers game just yet, they're talking about this game against the Milwaukee Bucks.
00:42:06
What are we hoping to see out of this one heading into Milwaukee knowing that hopefully a D is gonna be coming off injury.
00:42:12
Hopefully, crews was going to be coming back.
00:42:14
What are your thoughts on this matchup.
00:42:17
Well, my thoughts on this match up or I mean, this is a potential finals match up.
00:42:20
This is the best team in the East, and we've got the Greek freaky honest over there, and it will be such such an interesting matchup.
00:42:28
I mean, it's like it's like almost a headline of a WrestleMania Johannes versus a d.
00:42:33
Think about it that would I would sell that Patasse's and seats women.
00:42:37
It's holding seven allover again here.
00:42:41
It II also again to bring it up on just we were talking about the three point shooting of the Lakers.
00:42:49
You know, the books especially kind of concern me because the best of my knowledge again, this is Johannes surrounded by a bunch of three point shooters.
00:42:56
So we might get stuck in a battle in this next game where they're hitting threes and we're hitting choose.
00:43:01
And then the numbers are just not gonna add out at the end.
00:43:03
So what, You know, it's gonna be an interesting matchup.
00:43:07
Jazz.
00:43:08
Same thing You're worried about three point shooting for the bucks.
00:43:10
I'm worried about the health of Anthony Davis because I think that that asking David doesn't playing this game.
00:43:14
It's gonna take a 45 15 and 13 game from LeBron in order for them to even have a chance at winning.
00:43:20
The Milwaukee Bucks are awesome.
00:43:21
They are juggernaut without a healthy 80.
00:43:25
I think the Lakers, like Chris, mentioned, they're gonna have a hard time keeping up on the scoreboard and more than anything else, and that just has to do with firepower.
00:43:31
But if 80 is healthy, I'd like to see the Lakers trying to slow the game down a little bit more grinding mode as much as they can.
00:43:37
Inside.
00:43:38
Use your event with 80 and then get Dwight Howard JaVale McGee to get some of those put backs and and those back to back door cut kind of dunks where they're they're feeding off of the penetration and getting love.
00:43:47
So to me, I want to look at the Lakers trying not getting to attracting these guys, slow it down and try and beat them with the advantage that you have.
00:43:53
What might be inside with Anthony Davis agreed.
00:43:56
Yeah, you definitely have to try to do that.
00:43:57
I'm really curious to see how they handle Brook Lopez, who's gonna be trying to pull the Lakers Biggs away from the basket we saw today.
00:44:02
That could be an issue when you had Myles Turner pulling Dwight Howard and pulling JaVale McGee away from the basket.
00:44:07
That could be tough.
00:44:08
That's not something that they want to do.
00:44:10
And the Lakers kind of just lived with Myles Turner shootings and threes, and he made a few of them.
00:44:14
So gonna be interesting to see how they handle that.
00:44:17
But, yeah, it is gonna come down to the Lakers into your game.
00:44:19
Can you beat up the bucks on the inside with shofar? Teams haven't really been able to, because Brook Lopez has been pretty good protecting the rib.
00:44:27
But can you take advantage of the size difference that you're gonna have in there? Or will the Bucks kind of continue to do what they do? And when they continue it, hit threes and still protect the rim? The Bucks are the top team in terms of net rating, have a net rating of 12.
00:44:40
4, which is ridiculous.
00:44:42
The Lakers net rating is second at 8.7.
00:44:45
They are first in the n B A in defense of rating and second in the end, being offensive ratings.
00:44:50
So they have a really good offense, a really good defense.
00:44:53
Uh, this is just a very good team that's really firing on all cylinders.
00:44:57
As of right now, there are four in the N B A in three pointers made.
00:45:01
They are S o.
00:45:03
They're shooting a ton of them, but they are actually 13th in three point percentage at the moment.
00:45:07
So maybe you could get them to miss some shots, But ultimately, I think this game's gonna come down to defense.
00:45:12
Can you get the Bucks to miss enough shots to get out in transition and score on them and not have to deal with their half court defense? And they're gonna be doing the same thing the other way? Can they get stops and then run on the Lakers and get easier looks without having to deal with the Lakers half court defense? Both teams are great defensively, going to come down to whichever team.
00:45:30
Honestly, we say it's a maker mislead, and maybe that's a little bit of a cop to cop out, but it's gonna come down to whichever team can get stops and forced Mrs from their opponent.
00:45:37
That's that's pretty much going to determine the narrative bind this game.
00:45:41
Yeah, that's what I'm hoping we see.
00:45:43
We see a fully healthy and me talking to fully healthy 100% but it's close to 100% f b Davis that you can, because you only get this matchup place a year, right? Both teams 24 4 just put your gloves on, Duke it out.
00:45:54
Let's see the best team is gonna win.
00:45:56
But I agree with you in the sense that it's gonna be key for the Lakers, too, to control the pace of the game, though I do think that's gonna be huge for them, because if you're getting into ah, game, that's gonna hit the 1 15 1 20 mark.
00:46:07
I don't like the Lakers were gonna have a chance at winning that.
00:46:09
I think it's in the low hundreds like it was today or even Ah, hi, 90.
00:46:13
Not unhappy teams are so good, but I think the Lakers got a limit the possessions and try and take advantage of what they have with LeBron and Anthony Davis and and use the pick and roll a lot more.
00:46:22
You know what I mean? Because you got put.
00:46:24
If you go Johannes on if you go, you honest on a d or you go Johannes on LeBron.
00:46:29
I mean, I don't know if they'll do that that much, but exposed the other guy, whoever Whoever's guarding one of your big too.
00:46:33
And I think it's gonna be up to those two guys to carry the Lakers to a wayto Yeah, agreed.
00:46:38
That's what they're gonna have to do.
00:46:39
They're gonna have to unleash that pick and roll, because that's gonna be a pretty good scoring option for them.
00:46:45
Uh, So, Chris, there's a comment here.
00:46:48
It says Mavs just beat them from coming in from YouTube.
00:46:52
What do you think? The fact that the bucks just lost to the Mavs.
00:46:56
Does that help the Lakers or hurt the Lakers in terms of the mentality of the bucks coming into this game? Well, I know the Mavs have don't they have their main players down and, yeah, gallant just down.
00:47:13
So I mean there.
00:47:14
I mean, if anything, I guess both teams are gonna come in the Thursday pretty fired up for W.
00:47:20
So if anything, that loss probably hurts them, because now the books are really gonna want to win this game.
00:47:25
Seeing is that they lost against the Maps without Luca, which is probably actually, you know, I don't want to see.
00:47:31
It's embarrassing cause I know the maps are still good team.
00:47:33
But whenever you lose, it lose to a team in their top players down, that's not That's a good thing.
00:47:38
So you know specifically for the Lakers, it can't be good for them to lose, because then I think we're gonna get the best of the Bucks.
00:47:43
But remember the Lakers? We don't lose two games in a row, so I know they're going into this game, you know, ultra focused.
00:47:51
Yeah, I kind of wonder if Milwaukee was looking ahead to the Lakers game in a little bit against the maps, because that's like the maps kind of took advantage of the Lakers in that way.
00:47:59
And I'm wondering if that's part of what happened there with the Bucks.
00:48:03
Were they just looking ahead because that's their next game on the schedule? Is the Lakers.
00:48:06
Maybe they were looking ahead to this big matchup because it's the one that's got all the hype behind it.
00:48:11
It's the one that's gonna have all the eyeballs on him.
00:48:13
So I wonder if the map just happened to catch the bucks at the right time.
00:48:18
Yeah, I I go with that, too.
00:48:19
I mean, it's almost like this game, you know, if Anthony Davis played this game, the Lakers, the Laker is probably, you know, easily win.
00:48:25
But we talked a little bit about that on on Sunday.
00:48:28
Trucker out to be Atlanta game.
00:48:30
That's okay.
00:48:31
The Lakers played pretty **** ugly.
00:48:33
They didn't have a lot going for him to them, and they looked like they were.
00:48:35
They were just gonna sleep walking out there and maybe looking ahead a little bit too much.
00:48:38
And and I think that's what happened with the Bucks.
00:48:40
But again, I've said this before.
00:48:41
The Mavericks are not a team. Just need that.
00:48:43
Like you said.
00:48:44
I mean, they can fill it up and hit 20 three's on you any night.
00:48:45
Which is gonna keep most teams in the game of the MBA.
00:48:48
Yeah, yeah, that's that's is that the Mavs are a good team without Don six.
00:48:52
Sometimes sometimes teams step up right, like the name after they lose a star.
00:48:57
You see these random games where you go? Okay, well, they're clearly not that good anymore.
00:49:01
And then you have all the role players step up and they play pretty well.
00:49:04
I think the Lakers kind of had that effect a little bit tonight.
00:49:06
Um, yeah, but over the long term, the Mavs, they're gonna hurt from losing, Don't say.
00:49:10
But in that immediate reaction, you see, guys step up and do things and and play well so you can have that kind of effect.
00:49:18
I think that may have been part of what was that player? Plus the bucks.
00:49:21
Maybe looking ahead regardless, right, Regardless of what not whether or not the Bucks loss, though, I think they were going to give whatever their best is.
00:49:28
They're gonna throw it at the Lakers, and I think the Lakers were gonna throw their best of the bucks.
00:49:34
That's gonna be a hell of a matchup.
00:49:35
I mean, both teams losing tonight and then going into that game, I mean, I think everybody was there.
00:49:40
Probably everybody was just overlooking tonight's opponents looking at Thursday's game, you know? Yeah, I think I may have been May have been part of the part of the equation here.
00:49:50
Alright, guys.
00:49:51
Let's, uh, let's wrap things up their final thoughts.
00:49:54
Final thoughts.
00:49:55
Chris, when we go to your first what your final thoughts from from tonight.
00:49:59
And if you had a player of the game, who would you give that to? Oh, player of the game? I guess. Probably.
00:50:07
Dwight Howard.
00:50:08
I just saw a lot of good activity out in out of him tonight, and it was good to see and Final Thoughts is again.
00:50:14
I think even without a B, we have a great team.
00:50:17
And, uh, you know, they fell short tonight, But you can understand No way d no coups.
00:50:21
Indianapolis on a Tuesday, they got this huge game Thursday.
00:50:25
There's no I was disappointed in the moment when we lost as we will already together, but, you know, about 10 seconds later, you know, I let it wash off Preston Preston off my shoulder and we just kind of look forward jazz.
00:50:39
I'm gonna say that Chris was underplaying it, that he was a lot more than disappointed here.
00:50:43
Now, Yeah, Miguel had to hear about your phone, but I You know what they played.
00:50:49
I think.
00:50:50
I think they played their hearts.
00:50:51
They played really well.
00:50:52
It was a matter of one or two plays here.
00:50:54
Free throw here or there, three pointer here or there, missing two of your top three guys.
00:50:59
I think this is a hell of an effort and they know they could play with.
00:51:02
They can play with teams, even if they're not fully loaded.
00:51:04
So to me it was a good loss and and the 1st 1 to see that first time with that? I say that and play the game, Yeah, I mean, I I would be.
00:51:12
I'm just trying to be Ah ah, jackets.
00:51:15
If I don't say Dwight Howard, it's white.
00:51:16
Outward played often.
00:51:17
They needed somebody else to step off other than LeBron 20.
00:51:19
6 rebounds with it was a beast down there, so I'd go with Dwight all day.
00:51:23
Yep, I'm gonna agree with you guys there. I think there's no question.
00:51:26
Maybe it was an easy question, but 20 points, 10 of 10 from the field can't argue that throwback game for Dwight.
00:51:31
Hopefully, there's more where that came from.
00:51:34
Coming up on Thursday.
00:51:35
Big game against the Milwaukee Bucks.
00:51:37
Can't wait to see how the Lakers respond.
00:51:38
Can they bounce back from this loss, or will the Bucks bounce back from their own loss to the Dallas Mavericks? O great one to check out.
00:51:46
Make sure you guys come join us.
00:51:47
We'll be right here after the game, breaking everything down.
00:51:50
That's Thursday evening when the Lakers take on the Milwaukee Bucks.
00:51:53
I want to take a moment.
00:51:54
Thank everybody who jumped in here.
00:51:55
All of you coming in for Facebook.
00:51:57
Live from YouTube from periscope.
00:51:59
Appreciate all the questions, all the comments, all the back and forth.
00:52:02
All the Vogel is awesome.
00:52:04
Vogel is terrible.
00:52:05
LeBron doesn't shoot free throws.
00:52:06
LeBron's, the faster you guys are amazing.
00:52:09
I love watching everybody go back and forth and all the comments section here.
00:52:12
So again, appreciate everybody hopping in and joining us right here on the Lakers Nation postgame show.
00:52:17
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00:52:18
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