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00:00:02
Hello, everybody.
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Welcome into the Lakers Nation postgame show.
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Well, it wasn't pretty.
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It wasn't a great performance by any means, but the Lakers pick up the win over the Atlanta Hawks, keep their away from Staples Center record unblemished.
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They win 101 to 96.
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Kind of slept, walked through a lot of the game.
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We're gonna break it down, talk all about it and talk a little bit about trade Season two, which actually officially starts today.
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So we need to talk about that a little bit.
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My name's Trevor Lane, senior writer for Lakers nation dot com.
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Joining Me is Jazz King.
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You confined jazz at Jazz King 21 on both Instagram and Twitter.
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Just how you doing, man? Frustrating game.
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But somehow the Lakers powered through it.
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We'll not be one team from Atlanta lost today because my Niners went down to the story Falcons Both.
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They will say that ran for another Isa tough.
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I look like the guys at the Magic City flew.
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Man, I don't know what they did in Atlanta last night.
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Supposed to be a very good party town, but early start.
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So I mean, you know, they're a little bit out of it.
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Um, just an ugly game.
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I mean, you shoot five for 31 in the MBA from three point line and still end up winning.
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To me, it was it was a struggle for them, and I just think everything looked off.
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But again, it's a game that that's based on winds.
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And there are 2024 3 right now, which sounds ridiculous, but that's that's where they're at 24 3 Yeah, it's it's incredible.
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It's amazing that that's their record right now.
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But at the same time, if you're a Laker fan watching this game tonight, you can't be super thrilled with what we saw.
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I mean, it's kind of like the Orlando game that the Lakers didn't play very well.
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They were kind of sleepwalking through a lot of it, but they had their stinker game against the teams that they can get away with it with, you know, I mean, look like 22 turnovers, five of 31 shooting from deep.
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And they win the game like they should have lost this game by 20 based on just those two things.
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And it didn't happen because they were fortunate enough to be playing the Atlanta Hawks trying.
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Well, you know, it's funny.
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I mean, we we said that before, too.
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And remember some of those games they had early in the season where they kind of struggled to put weaker opponents away, you know what I mean? And so we were like, Oh, we gotta wait till we gotta wait till they get to that stretch of games where they're gonna play some really good teams.
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And if they play that way, they're gonna get the you know they're gonna get blown out.
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They're gonna lose by 20 were saying that about going into Denver and Utah.
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And they passed almost every test so far.
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So I agree with you.
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I think they're almost having this thing of playing down to their competition at times that and again.
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I mean, and I think we've talked about this a lot on the show. Right.
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If you're looking at it, were you ever concerned that they were gonna lose the game? No, not that concerned me if they're given the mistakes that they made.
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This was a game that they almost tried to fumble away.
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They tried toe, tried to lose.
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They tried to allow a touchdown in the last second on the very last play of the game.
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I don't know who else did that today, but thanks.
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Thanks for that one.
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Appreciate it.
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Stick the knife in a little bit deeper.
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No problem, Jen.
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It's no problem.
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I'm here for you, so Yeah, but they still found a way to win.
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Like this game definitely would have been lost last year.
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And we've talked about that, but I never was all that concerned because they're playing the Atlanta Hawks.
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It was like, Okay, you know, all they have to do is really focus for, you know, 34 minutes and they're gonna win this thing as long as they can pull that off in the fourth quarter.
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They kind of did.
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But we just didn't really see that that focus at any point for the Lakers that we've we're used to seeing for them.
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They just they never really got everything clicking And it was a weird game because of that.
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Yeah, man.
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And, you know, in the first half, I mean, I tweeted out some videos to of it.
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It's like a handsome highlight reel plays, you know what I mean? Like, LeBron James passed to Dwight Howard, the LeBron James dunk that he averages rolling down the down the paint and threw one down there.
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But it was still, it would be energy was like it was a scrimmage like an intra squad scrimmage or a preseason game.
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It was like, Oh, they had some highlights.
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But I mean, it was just an ugly, ugly, ugly game overall for the Lakers.
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And again, I'm not taking credit away from them because they still found a way to win.
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But for me, the concerning part was okay.
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They got 59 points combined, like you got 70 points combined for LeBron Etienne KCP.
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So that means your bench, you know, and your other starter, Danny Green, but eventually contributed, uh, 18 points here and Miranda had 11 of them.
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So they were They were struggling a lot just in terms of offensively.
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Defensively.
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They were really good in the paint.
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They didn't give up much.
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The Hawks I was looking at that only gave up 34 points in the paint, but their perimeter defense would.
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They were slow on rotations, slow getting out to challenge shots.
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And And Atlanta obviously got to the free throw line quite a bit and hit a bunch of them, too.
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So, to me, it was just an ugly lacks a physical game that they somehow found a way to win.
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And again, you're right.
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You play like this against the, uh, the L A Clippers, the Milwaukee Bucks on Thursday.
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They're gonna lose by 25.
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But they got away with it because it's a story.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And speaking of getting away with poor defense on the perimeter, what the heck was LeBron James doing? Yeah, that play Lakers are up. Three.
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Vince Carter drives the lane.
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Yes, 40 year old or barrel is now 41.
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Maybe you're already started.
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Drives the lane, and LeBron doesn't slide over to stop the drive.
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Which he shouldn't He shouldn't you give him the two when you're up? Three.
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But he also doesn't cut out to the shooter.
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He just stood there.
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Somebody on Twitter commented.
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It looked like his controller got unplugged.
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I don't think you but they give up the White Open three, and they were very, very fortunate that the Hawks missed it.
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I think that play encapsulate the Lakers effort in this entire game, other than LeBron in 80 having moments offensively, that was exactly like LeBron literally just stood there.
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He didn't like it was like he just zoned out who's staring at the other court.
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Maybe he saw a nice looking lady under the group at the other end that he can do that.
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But whatever it is, you would just caught up in it.
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And and to me, it was kind of indicative of the team's effort. Defensively.
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Again, they get, they give up 96 points only.
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So it's not like they gave up 159 still found a way to win.
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They were just very lazy on their on their perimeter defense and and like I said, the help side rotation was quite slow.
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But it was just an interesting and a weird, weird game in the fact that you know what like yet three with three pointers are 53 pointers in conventional game and still found a way to win.
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So everything seemed kind of off.
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And you are in the third game of of the road trip, You know what I mean? So they're gonna They're gonna take some time, but whatever. Maybe they're tired.
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But again, you're just gonna take it as it comes in 24 3 and that's all that matters is you go into the next game now.
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What about load management? There were a ton of people on Twitter.
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They were upset about this saying, Why aren't the Lakers trying to blow this team out so that you can let LeBron James and Anthony Davis rest in the fourth quarter and then lo and behold, 80 tweaks tweaks his ankle on the fourth and he played through it? He was fine, But who knows how that's gonna respond tomorrow? What? That means moving forward for him.
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Do the Lakers need to start to try to put more pressure on teams right from the get go? Or can they continue doing this against the weaker teams? What? What are your thoughts on that situation, Jess? Well, I'm looking at it like this for 27 games into the season, so I mean, you know what? Let's just say we're roughly 35% through through the schedule.
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At this point, it's become a habit.
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It's not like it's it's This is something that, oh, you know, they just had a real off game and that kind of place.
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Oh, no.
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We've seen them play against week of competition and allow the team to stay in it towards the end of the game.
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So I don't know if it's just something that they expected, they can turn it on in the third quarter.
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They might, you know, kind of had the feel things out for the first couple.
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But for me, I think it's almost becoming habit.
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And the things when you develop bad habits are hard to break.
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And so what? I'm looking at it like that.
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Like, is this team just like Okay, well, we know we're playing in a crappy team today.
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Let's just say Atlanta socks right? But I mean, there's six and 21 or whatever they are now.
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But, um, you know, if if you're going into that with thinking, it's gonna come back and bite you once, they're lucky that it hasn't yet against a bad team, but if this keeps on happening, it eventually will.
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And then you'll have people coming looking for blood at that point.
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Yeah, I mean, at some point it's going to happen, but, like you said, it's a hard habit to break.
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The Lakers are like me in college, where you give me five days to do a paper.
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I'm gonna wait until the last day Yeah, and then trying to cover the Lakers going into the game.
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But okay, realistically, against a team like the Hawks, we need to play well for four minutes.
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So let's let's do that in the last four minutes in the game and everything will be fine.
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We won't have to worry about alleged Let's procrastinate.
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Let's wait until then.
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And yet here we are, where they're winning these games.
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At some point, it may burn them, but but the flip side of this the glass is half full.
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Take is the Lakers were really, really good because they can get away with doing this and not flipping the switch till later and later and later in the game.
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And yet they're still waiting.
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Yeah, and and you're right, and that that that is a sign of a championship team.
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And I'm like I said, I mean, I know I'm not gonna compare the Lakers and Warriors in terms of the workers when they were obviously not this year, but in terms of the run that they had.
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But they had had that several times.
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And they're completely different teams and how they're made up.
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But they did that several times to wrote the regular season where what? The Lakers are losing to the Bulls by 12 and 1/2.
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And then he checked the score again in the third quarter.
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And you're like, Oh, ****, they're up by 50 now, you know what I mean? So again, I don't want to get into a habit of doing that, but this is a nice running games.
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We're gonna go on here, they're gonna go at Indy Tuesday.
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Obviously, if you join in Milwaukee on Thursday, then you go home to her home to Denver and then against the Clippers on Christmas.
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So I'm interested to see how they handle that four game stretch in terms of are they gonna bring the same level energy that we saw today? or are we gonna see them kind of say, All right, we're ready.
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You know what I'm saying? That they will be ready to go.
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And so and they've shown that all season.
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It's not like they had 44 showings, you know, two or three times in a row.
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And when they played, they leveled up in competition.
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Other than maybe that first game of the year, where they play the Clippers, they responded really well, yeah, that's just like they are.
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They have stepped up when they need to, right? That's that's what they've done.
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That's what this team has shown.
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I'm not gonna look at this and say, Oh, this is a sign the Lakers aren't very good because we did that.
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We made that mistake already, right? We said, Oh, we had all the people who were saying the Lakers aren't that good because their schedule has been so easy and they're still barely winning some of these games.
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And then they went and they beat Denver.
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In Denver, they beat Utah in Utah, They run off this this run of solid games, beating good teams, and they showed us that they can.
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It's just a matter of flipping the switch and then putting forth the effort and over 82 million season, it's hard to sustain effort throughout the entire thing.
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So I suspect, like, you're saying Jazz, we're going to see a better Lakers team over, especially these next four games, because they're gonna have to.
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I wouldn't even be surprised a part of the reason why we saw this level of energy tonight is because they're looking ahead.
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Okay, things were going to get tough here.
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Yeah, I agree with you.
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You would have the tendency to do that, especially the NBA's when you're when you're a team that is an upper echelon championship, if not the number one team.
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I mean, it's a toss up in my mind between the Lakers and the Bucks right now, but if you're looking at it like that, yeah, Okay.
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Now look at her schedule.
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Bring a pretty good Indiana team.
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They're gonna be hiding in that Thursday game.
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And then you got that run.
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Like I said of Denver in L.
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A.
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The clippers at home.
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So, um, you're right in that sense.
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I think they might have overlooked this game, and it might have whatever to me.
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I'm looking at it now like you.
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Look at the way they've responded after losing Game seven in a row after they lost the opening night game.
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10 enroll after they lost the Raptor.
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Now they want they've won seven in a row, so it's almost like and that Dallas game, they were sleepy, right? Remember that Dallas game? The lives lost that they had? That's right, and we've seen them bounce back from it, so they've corrected it real quick.
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So it's almost like, once that actually has hit him in the butt for not doing Ah, not bringing the energy the whole game, and they've been able to kind of flip the switch.
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It's It's good to see how they responded after that as well.
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Just this is where we're at on the season.
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You started talking about how many they had won in a row, and I realized, like I don't know, off top my head, how many they've won in a row.
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I've kind of lost track.
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Yeah, that's that's incredible.
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Because of last six, I would have never lost track.
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I would have been going Oh my gosh, The Lakers have won five and rose in this incredible.
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But now it's become a normal scenes.
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Become just a regular thing.
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Yeah, I completely forgot how many games had one, and Robie is.
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I've been paying that much attention to it because it's like, OK, they want another game Not to say that we're becoming jaded or anything.
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We're just expecting it, but still, it is impressive how they're they're rattling off these win streaks and we're coming to expect them to play this super high level and then when they don't when we have a down game like this, it's so noticeable.
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So I do expect them to rein things up.
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I do expect us to see a better team over these next four games and it should be a big test for them.
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So I'm excited for what we've got coming up here.
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You know, it's funny if they won this game like this last season, we would have been like, Hey, you know what? Look a team sugar, get out there and win.
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You know what way would have been, like talk all the good things that they did.
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But this year, like I said, the expectations are just different man like they're looking at it like this is a championship team, no excuses for them.
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So even if they win and we talked about this, it's hard to win every night in the NBA, and these guys have done it basically 90% of the time that they played or whatever it is, and we're still kind of sit.
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You're like, Well, they could bring a little bit more energy they should be doing this minute.
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But bottom line is way.
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Find something just before we finish up this this'll game.
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If you were to name like a player of the game for this one from the Lakers side, who would you go with, like who stood out to you because I'm looking to the statute? I mean, like, there's the obvious ones.
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LeBron and a d.
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But the turnovers were high and all that was there anybody that you thought should get the player of the game owners for this one.
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I'm gonna go.
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I'm gonna go with Jared Dudley.
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I think you know, I'm just getting center.
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I'll take a look at Jared Jared Dudley with the stat line of the year.
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He has 17 minutes zero shots.
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Zero free throws, attempted rebounds, zero assists, one steal Z locks at four.
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Fouls plus minus zero.
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That's the stat line of the year place.
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I love you like I will get him to play with the game, but, uh to be Obviously I think of this one.
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I'd probably go with LeBron just for the fact that I thought of energy level was great in the first half.
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Not so much a 2nd 23 I think of the half, right, So nine points in the second half.
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But I'll toss up between LeBron and Jared.
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Dudley will go it. What about you? I'm gonna go.
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It is a big battle between LeBron it and Jared Dudley.
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I think 80 made a big defensive play at the end there.
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Can you give him credit on that one? 27 points.
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13 rebounds for him, But But America LeBron 32 points.
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Four threes.
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He was basically the only guy who could hit threes.
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Aside from Rondo.
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Hit 1 13 rebounds.
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Seven says three blocks for LeBron, so we got to go with him even though I did think it was kind of off it.
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Strange to say that He scored 32 points, 13 and seven, and it was kind of an off game for him.
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But it was he.
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Maybe it's because he just flew to see his kids game brownies game yesterday, then flew right back.
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I mean, that's that's tough to do, So maybe that was part of it.
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But yeah, play the game.
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I think I would have to go with LeBron James.
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Just another thing we need to talk about today, December 15th and you know what that means? That means that all the contracts signed over the summer around the N v A are now eligible to be traded.
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That means it's trade season.
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It's finally happening now.
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We can see trades really take place because so much of the league was in free agency this last summer that it's made trades really, really difficult to compete complete.
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I mean, you look it, really, The Lakers.
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Look at all the guys that were signed this year.
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You look at what Javale McGee, Danny Green, KCP Jared Dudley, Dwight Howard, Avery, Bradley, Rondo, Caruso.
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All of those guys were ineligible to be traded right and it's about that for a lot of teams, around the league, so it is now officially trade season.
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Do you see the Lakers making any moves on the market? I I'm gonna go with this.
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And this is what I believe.
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Just because the fact that how the team is doing so far and again way all know with one diet that the Lakers should try and get and need to get eventually and we don't know, they're not gonna get him through a trade.
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We know that at this point, right on this.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, on its or maybe a quiet Leonard or something.
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But, you know, we're looking at a gondola as the guy that's gonna help Steve put him put him, if not there, if they're not already over the top over the top, you know what I mean? But I I I'm like, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
00:15:06
Ah, your to your team sitting here at 24 3 Why mess with why mess with a good thing and if you have to, But I mean, there is I do think there's room for it because you look at it, you don't wanna have to play Quinn Cook in a playoff game.
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You don't You know what I mean? You don't want to have them out there from, so I do think there's room for improvement.
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And again, once coups comes back, you're gonna see the rotation of the settlement.
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Jared Dudley.
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Probably not gonna get any minutes once Cruz is back in the lineup.
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But, um, I don't know.
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I mean, I just don't unless there's something you can get on the cheap and you're not giving up any second round pick and some cash or something like that.
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I don't see them making a movie about you.
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I think they'll be.
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They'll be aggressive.
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I think they'll try it.
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James Shepherd from Facebook is saying, What moves do you want to see, Trevor? You know, I think that the Lakers need to, and we've talked about the punch.
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I think they need to address two things I think that you need.
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You could use a bench score.
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You can use kind of somebody to come in.
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They can really just create buckets.
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And, you know, the names have been thrown out.
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Include, like Jamal Crawford.
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People have talked about picking him up.
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Uh, Lou Williams type player.
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Obviously, the Clippers are gonna be trading him or anything like that.
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And then the other thing you need is like you mentioned.
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Andre Iguodala is another wing defender.
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So one of those two things, Or maybe you can find both of them? Probably not.
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But the complication is, and we've talked about this.
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You've got javale, McGee.
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You've got KCP and Rondo all have de facto no trade clauses because they would lose their bird rights if they're traded.
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So when you're looking at salary matching, it becomes really difficult.
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You go down the list, you say? Okay, Anthony Davis is off limits.
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LeBron James is off limits.
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JaVale has a no trade clause, not a real one.
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But in fact the one KCP has one.
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And then Rondo has one.
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So that leaves you with a pretty limited number of guys to trade.
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Unless someone like KCP comes and says, Hey, I feel like I can make more money next summer.
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If I'm a starter somewhere and Team X is willing to make me a starter, Can you trade me here? Yeah, that's a difference.
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But I don't know if there's anybody in particular that I see them packaging up in trading.
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Maybe a Quinn cook may be a Troy Daniels.
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Something like that.
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Maybe somehow combined salaries there to make it work.
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But ultimately, I think the Lakers were gonna have a tough time on the trade market, especially because they don't have any picks.
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They can really throw in there, all given away.
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Plus, the Stepien roll presents prevents them from trading this year's first rounder.
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So it's gonna be tough sledding on the trade market.
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But Rob Blake has been pretty crafty with this kind of stuff.
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So I mean, never say never, right? Yeah, I know. You're right.
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I mean, I'm looking at guys, even like Marcus Morris or something from the Knicks.
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And the next thing to have their own, perhaps a tremendous You'd be perfect, right? You don't know.
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He has the capability of coming in and scoring 12 14 points a game off the bench.
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Hard nosed guy as well.
00:17:33
Plays good defense and worked hard and all that, but, um, yeah, I'm with you, man.
00:17:37
I mean, I just think that they're hamstrung by the situation.
00:17:39
The 80 trade obviously was well worth it Doesn't matter what you have to give up to get him, you have to get him.
00:17:43
But I I agree with you.
00:17:45
I mean, I think they're gonna be looking at bio market cheap older veterans who get who get bought out, traded and waved and whatever how they how they do it.
00:17:51
I think that's how it's gonna That's how they're gonna be able to improve their bench because they're just limited with what they have that even.
00:17:57
I mean, you give you give up the second round pick, second round pick and get you Marcus Morris.
00:18:00
You know what I mean? So they're gonna have to figure out ways to get creative in order to bring in someone that's actually gonna enhance the bench rather than just kind of it stinks.
00:18:08
That is Quote.
00:18:09
Let me ask you this, Do you put Kyle Kuzma out there on the market? That's good question, man.
00:18:14
Um, I if you're getting something of value back in terms of scoring, and he's continued to struggle to reach the potential that we all think he has, I you haven't moved at that.
00:18:26
And I said, You know, it brings you another score of consistent score with the system that you run? Yeah, you'd have to look at it.
00:18:31
What about you? Yeah, I mean, he's not off.
00:18:34
He's not untouchable or anything like that.
00:18:36
Um, I don't think so, anyway.
00:18:38
But in terms of value, you know what? He's selling low on Cosmo.
00:18:44
If you traded him right now, wouldn't you? I mean, look, he's been battling injuries.
00:18:47
He's been in and out of the lineup when he has been in there.
00:18:49
He hasn't been consistent, and part of that is probably injury related.
00:18:53
So it's not like he's been tearing it up right now.
00:18:55
And some team is gonna call you up and be like, Hey, look, Kyle Kuzma, this is a future star.
00:19:01
Why don't you take our aging veteran who's a really good player and we'll take Cosma and we could help us out of the future because we're kind of rebuilding, You know? I'm trying to think of top my head, somebody that would be like that, Obviously, like Utah start moving like a Mike Conley template like Kevin love.
00:19:15
Obviously, the salaries don't match their those just saying those types of players, somebody like that.
00:19:22
Then maybe, but I don't see teams making that kind of offer unless the Lakers were taken on some bad salary somehow or something like that, because Cruz was not lighting it up.
00:19:30
So if your plan is if it's even a thought in your head to move, Kuzma is now even the time to do it.
00:19:36
Given that you're probably not gonna get the return that you want.
00:19:39
No, you're right.
00:19:40
And that's what I was saying about the salaries of everyone who's makes about two million a year, somebody at 1.
00:19:43
9 or something.
00:19:44
But I believe it is a salary.
00:19:46
So you're gonna be a hard time figuring that out and you hit the nail on the head man there he's been playing crappy.
00:19:51
What's his average? And I think he's only putting up 70 points a game or something like that would forget what it was, but over the last few, But again, I'm looking at it like if you get somebody who has the skill set that you feel fits your system and we'll help you score more off the bench on a consistent basis, then yes, you would have to look at it. But you're right.
00:20:07
I mean, what do you get for clues at this point.
00:20:08
You know, you're not gonna You're not gonna get a guy straight up like Kevin Love, regardless of the salaries.
00:20:13
You know what I mean? So it just depends on what you get.
00:20:15
And like you said, there's only two untouchables on this team.
00:20:18
Anthony Davis and LeBron James.
00:20:19
Everybody else, you're open for business.
00:20:21
Yeah, And look, that's I don't think they moved.
00:20:23
Dwight Howard. I don't think you move Javale McGee.
00:20:25
I don't think they're gonna They're gonna do that.
00:20:26
Those guys that that's there.
00:20:27
They're two headed monster at center.
00:20:29
In fact, what we settle on there it was.
00:20:32
Oh, yeah, You're white.
00:20:35
It was Dwight the coward.
00:20:36
That was what we wear.
00:20:38
White make Howard that are combo center that eats up a lot of the minutes there in the middle of it.
00:20:42
I don't think you're trading in there.
00:20:43
One of them, Cow Koosman is at 11.
00:20:46
6 per game, 3.
00:20:47
4 rebounds, 0.
00:20:49
9 a 6.
00:20:50
4 blocks.
00:20:51
He's only playing 23 minutes a game and started one game on the season has a PR per of 9.
00:20:56
85 which is extremely extremely low.
00:21:00
So again, I don't know that you traded that.
00:21:02
I guess maybe if a team calls you up, though, and says, Hey, we like his potential We understand he's been hurt.
00:21:07
We think better days or to come.
00:21:09
You have to listen, but I don't know if I see.
00:21:13
And that's the name that I see the most in our chance.
00:21:15
That's the name I see popping up online is what can the Lakers get for Kuzma? I just don't think it's a whole lot right now.
00:21:22
No, I I agree with you, man.
00:21:23
I just don't like the way he's playing and the way the numbers match up in terms of salary and for equal value.
00:21:29
It would be tough to have to get someone back, maybe get someone who is a similar player to cruise.
00:21:34
But again, we all look at him and say and we did this a lot last season and he had his struggles and we did it coming into this season, especially when Boogie went down with that injury.
00:21:42
We said Kyle Kuzma is hugely important to this team.
00:21:45
He's 1/3 option on the floor.
00:21:46
You know what I've been in terms of scoring behind 80 and LeBron and he's just hasn't been living up to it.
00:21:50
And we'll give him the benefit of the doubt that obviously because he has had something right with that ankle and it's been bothering him and he was sick there for a while, too.
00:21:57
So let's give it a month, you know, get into January mid January late January.
00:22:01
If you have an option to pick up somebody like I said that can improve your team, you do it.
00:22:05
If not, you're hoping crucible bills the potential and fulfill the expectations.
00:22:09
Everyone has a bit.
00:22:10
Yeah, and I think that potential is still there. That's not gone.
00:22:13
Just he's been hurt.
00:22:14
He got four Kaku asthma, right? Like he gets the stress reaction.
00:22:18
Then he turned his ankle.
00:22:19
He gets poked in the eye.
00:22:20
It's like Kyle Kuzma just just can't seem to get healthy this season.
00:22:23
Hopefully he can and then he could turn things around.
00:22:26
I think that he can't be very good.
00:22:27
You know, the one guy that I guess if I were to pick anybody, that is maybe somewhat realistic, as in terms of a target that I would like to see the Lakers pick up and and not off.
00:22:37
And I'm talking about via trade.
00:22:39
You'll be Robert Covington.
00:22:41
That though, Yeah, that would be Mike.
00:22:42
I think he would be the perfect fit. He can play defense.
00:22:45
He could defend multiple positions, hit those outside shots.
00:22:47
Thank you would be a great guy to go for, but he's not coming cheap or anything like that.
00:22:50
But that would be at least somewhere with within the realm of reality.
00:22:55
To get him would be absolutely tremendous.
00:22:57
And I would love to see it.
00:22:58
And I have no idea what you can put together that would convince the Worcester to part with them.
00:23:03
Yeah, then you know what I think that's that's a good way to look at it, too, because you're gonna have some guys out there in the league who are playing below expectations, like Kyle Kuzma, who might look at it and say, We need a change of scenery and the teams like you know what? Let's just look these guys around to see what happens, and when you come to play on a team like the Lakers and the Laker, so you're gonna get the player if it's coming from a team like Minnesota is gonna be that much more amped up to be here and you're playing around guys, it's a great team.
00:23:25
Let's be honest.
00:23:26
I mean, right now 24 3 you can't argue with the results.
00:23:28
They're they're a great team right now with with what they're doing.
00:23:30
And so when team, when players come from a struggling situation to a good one, there level will just enhance anyway.
00:23:35
So we're hoping we see that with Cruz.
00:23:36
But if not, yeah, the Lakers could get creative and try and bring someone else.
00:23:40
And I just think as the roster is constructed, going to be tough to go, the trade wrote.
00:23:43
Unless the bio it's gonna be your best option. Yeah.
00:23:46
Um, what about the guards? It does feel like the Lakers have too many guards on the roster.
00:23:49
Do you park it, package up some of them and send some of them out like a queen Coca? Troy Daniels. Players like that.
00:23:55
Do you try to get anything for them? Even if it's just a reserve swingman, would you make a move like that? Yeah.
00:24:01
I mean, if they're not like I said, I mean, those two have been Let's be honest, it's been the worst of the Lakers right on the roster.
00:24:06
This use an old broad like they've had the least amount of ups with the most amount of down.
00:24:10
You know what I mean? Between Queen couldn't cook and Troy Daniels.
00:24:13
So, um, if you're flipping them to even get a future asset like a second round pick or you're getting some salary room where you have a little bit of wiggle that you can wiggle room that if you make a trade, you could you could bring in another guy who makes a little bit more than the other player trading.
00:24:25
Sure, you gotta look into it, because what else? What do they bring their just sitting on the patch of this point? You know what a view, right? Yeah.
00:24:30
If there's something out there that makes sense, then uh, then I think you go in and look at that because if they're like you're saying, if they're not doing anything for you, then maybe something comes along.
00:24:39
But of course, probably nobody's gonna be gonna be all that interested in trading for those guys in there and be on your order.
00:24:45
Yeah, Alright, let's go straight into our comments here because people are throwing all kinds of stuff out.
00:24:51
Eric Shampoo.
00:24:52
Pick up Julius Randle.
00:24:54
I don't think you mention our salaries to get him, but I'd be I'd be up for it if if you could, but I don't think you can.
00:25:02
Well, there's a ton of players out there. We wish they could get.
00:25:04
Like Julius Randle would be great, but yeah, they get a name that's coming out.
00:25:08
Is Baudone Bogdanovich okay? I mean, yeah, if you can get him, but I don't think so.
00:25:15
I don't think that's gonna be gonna be possible.
00:25:17
Uh, Dragons fears from YouTube.
00:25:20
Says Trevor.
00:25:21
How about giving Costa's some minutes versus the Pacers just to see? I mean, you gotta testament some point, right? So do you throw him out there just to see what you've got out of him? Or do you try to be selective about when you do that? The Lakers know exactly what they got with Costas.
00:25:35
They practice, they see him.
00:25:36
They see the tapes.
00:25:37
Really misses brother.
00:25:39
They have? Yeah, that's about all the good part right now.
00:25:42
Uh, the only way I see cost is getting off the bench is if it's a 20 point game and it's a blow and he's getting some minutes.
00:25:48
I I just think that if they if they trusted what they saw in him when we saw this before the season was active, elevated, nor Val over KCP Well, we saw how that turned out, right? You know what I mean? So I think they just gotta wait that out.
00:25:58
And if you get some minutes and some garbage minutes sometimes, then you then you'll get to see what you have.
00:26:02
But the Lakers know exactly what he is.
00:26:03
Good to see. A practice? Yeah.
00:26:05
I mean, they do.
00:26:06
They've got a good idea.
00:26:07
And right now, you're not going to force anybody in there anything like that.
00:26:09
You're just gonna go with guys who are winning games for you? Look, if it's a blowout, if it's a blowout win against the Pacers, Yeah, right or a blowout loss, then you can toss him in because they're not gonna impact the game, right? That's where you get those guys minutes in close games where everyone's probably gonna matter, and especially when you're going to be in a tight race in the Western Conference at the top of the top table there.
00:26:30
Uh, yeah.
00:26:31
I don't think that you throw these guys out there at this point.
00:26:34
No, just you don't mess with a good thing that 24 3 they're just going on a long, massive winning streaks when they lose a game.
00:26:39
Just don't You don't mess with this stuff right now and you're mentioning the cushion like they're four and 1/2 games up on the Clippers right now.
00:26:45
I believe the Lakers game in hand tubes.
00:26:47
If they win that one Europe five games already, right? You know what I mean? That's that's that's gonna be a lot for the Clippers to be, will do to be able to catch up, but and if you look at it after the All Star break where the Clippers are, I feel like we'll get on a bit of it more of a role, and the Lakers might slip a little bit because their schedule is gonna be a little bit tougher after that.
00:27:04
You have that Lee win and you talked about this.
00:27:06
We talked a lot about it through text right is the load management you want.
00:27:10
If they do need a night off for and the guys have little nicks and bruises and our little soreness in their knee or whatever it is, you don't have to risk him every single night.
00:27:17
So it's great that they're winning these games, and right now you just don't mess with it, right? Yep, Yeah, I agree.
00:27:21
If it's not broke, you don't fix it.
00:27:23
Yeah, A lot of people are asking about eighties ankle late guys, we don't know at this point, we don't know exactly what's going on.
00:27:28
We know that.
00:27:29
Obviously, he tweaked it a little bit.
00:27:30
We know with all seven, he stayed in the game and finished it.
00:27:32
If it was really, really bad, he probably comes out of the game, right? But he stayed in the game.
00:27:37
He finished it.
00:27:38
The big question is tomorrow, right? What happens sometimes they can swell up overnight and then we'll see where we go from here.
00:27:44
But as of right now, I'd say it's a good sign that he stayed in the game.
00:27:48
But again, it all depends on how it looks tomorrow.
00:27:50
It's not so much today that I'm worried about.
00:27:53
The Lakers will probably say, Oh, he slightly turned his ankle or whatever, but it's tomorrow.
00:27:58
That's really gonna tell us something on that? Uh, yeah, I did.
00:28:00
I did see a tweet about that.
00:28:02
I forget a apology that forgetting who tweeted it.
00:28:04
But Vogel, um, did say that 80 said he was good to go in the huddle there in the fourth quarter.
00:28:09
So he said he was okay.
00:28:10
It's a little bit sore, but you it's fine.
00:28:12
Okay, so that's that's good to go.
00:28:14
Oh, good to know.
00:28:15
And obviously LeBron James of the elbow, We don't worry about that.
00:28:18
Yeah, let's dig into some more questions here.
00:28:20
So we've got Gabriel Ramos from Facebook.
00:28:23
Why doesn't queen quick cook play more minutes, huh? Well, because other guys that are in the simple answer is because other guys are better than him right now.
00:28:33
Yeah, and this is not good.
00:28:34
And, you know, I was in rationally excited.
00:28:36
I was the guy that was irrationally excited about what we're coming to the Lakers in the off season.
00:28:41
Just hasn't quite worked out The three point shooting hasn't been what we hoped it would be his pick and roll ability hasn't been quite as good.
00:28:48
Everything's been a little bit lower than what I thought it was going to be with Quinn Cook in terms of his abilities, across the board, defensively, ball handling, shooting everything.
00:28:57
It's just been one notch down, and I think he is a better player than what we've seen.
00:29:01
But the Lakers don't have time to let him figure it out, especially when you've got other guys who are playing better.
00:29:05
And if Rondo is hitting threes, then Rondo's the better player.
00:29:10
Well, that's that's the biggest thing then, like like you're mentioning, Um, you know, it's not like he's not getting play.
00:29:15
He's not gonna run because he's injured or anything like that.
00:29:17
He's not gonna run. He's not playing well.
00:29:19
And when he's out there, he hasn't been noticeable.
00:29:21
He's he's like Troy Daniels, where he had a couple of nice games.
00:29:23
You're like, OK, this guy can shoot and then you see him play the next five games and he doesn't do anything, so he hasn't really earned his stripes, earned his minutes, and once Rondo's come back, let's be honest.
00:29:32
Nobody expected Ronda to hit the three of the clip that he's it.
00:29:34
No, we thought Quinn Cook would be able to do that.
00:29:36
Yeah, So Rondo doing that better for you and he's just a better point guard.
00:29:39
Terms of setting things up there Both have been.
00:29:41
Like I said, they're both a bit of turnstiles defensively, so that's kind of a watch.
00:29:45
So, to me, Rondo's bringing more.
00:29:46
So Rhonda's getting a minute.
00:29:47
Yeah, that's really what it comes down to.
00:29:49
I do think that you want to keep him involved.
00:29:51
And so hopefully, hopefully they'll be able to get him some minutes here and there, because who knows, at some point, you could need him.
00:29:56
Maybe you need somebody who can come in to hit a three or something like that, and he could provide that for you.
00:30:00
But for right now, he's out of the lineup.
00:30:03
That's just it is about this.
00:30:04
Um uh, Ricardo.
00:30:06
Bernard says the Lakers are struggling to be bad teams.
00:30:09
How about when they play the Bucks or the Clippers again? We kind of talked about that.
00:30:14
Look, it's the Lakers playing to This isn't it's not like you look at this game and go okay.
00:30:18
This is what the Lakers are.
00:30:20
They're not that good.
00:30:21
They're going to struggle to be teams like the Hawks.
00:30:23
Clearly, they're going to get just absolutely blown out by the Clippers by the Bucks by the Nuggets, by by any of the decent teams.
00:30:30
Right? That's what you're gonna say.
00:30:31
No, this gate, this is one game where they play down from level their competition.
00:30:36
This is not an indication of how good they are as a basketball team.
00:30:40
Yeah, I I agree with you, but I don't think it has anything to do with the fact that, oh, this is just a little later, the Hawks played a decent game.
00:30:46
The Lakers played terrible in a Laker.
00:30:48
Still one, and we haven't seen them like I said, other than maybe the first night, where things went a little bit wrong for the Lakers in terms of playing against obviously a team like the Clippers.
00:30:56
But since that they literally rose to the occasion almost every single time they played a winning team.
00:31:01
So it's not like they're just there They are.
00:31:02
They're feasting on teams.
00:31:03
They're supposed to be absolutely right.
00:31:05
You know what I mean.
00:31:06
They haven't lost to a team that's under 500 but at the same time when they're playing, go seems like that win in Utah.
00:31:11
I know my probably wasn't playing.
00:31:12
That was impressive, like they came out and blew the doors off them after a reasonably tight game against Denver Tomb.
00:31:16
So they've answered the call every single time.
00:31:19
So I mean that Thursday game.
00:31:20
It should be a good one.
00:31:21
And you know what? If the if the Lakers do get blown out, I don't like the fact that narrative's gonna be like, Oh, they haven't played anyone. Look what happened.
00:31:27
They've lost it for any records.
00:31:29
No, it's the end of a five game road trip against a team that is that is hot.
00:31:32
You know what I mean? It running like the Bucks are right there with the Lakers in terms of the record as well.
00:31:36
So to me, you want to see them play really well.
00:31:38
But if they have a stake in this week, that might be it, because it's the end of like I said at the end of a five game road trip. Sure, yeah, agreed.
00:31:44
That could be a tough thing to deal with just in terms of mentally, That's a hard thing to focus more on, and you're look, one of the things to is people look back on games and they say, Oh, look, see the Lakers haven't beat anybody, but I think back to like that that came against the Suns.
00:31:57
The sun's good that the sons of Blow 500 now, But at the time, they weren't at the time the sons were surging and they were playing great basketball.
00:32:04
That was a battle to me.
00:32:06
That was a good win.
00:32:08
That wasn't a win over some crappy sub 500 team or anything like that.
00:32:11
They've had some really good Goodwin.
00:32:14
So yeah, look, I like I like what we've seen for the Lakers so far, and I'm not taking this game as an indication of who they are.
00:32:20
I think they will step it up.
00:32:21
Maybe you see something go awry against the Bucks because it is that trap game, last game of road trip.
00:32:26
But again, I'd like to see the Lakers step up and focus in those games for sure.
00:32:30
Men, um, Roman rays from YouTube says teams bring their best against the Lakers, and he said it in all caps, so we know he's serious here. Hey.
00:32:37
Hey. Says chill.
00:32:38
Yeah.
00:32:39
Look, the Lakers were gonna get every is best shot.
00:32:40
We've talked about that.
00:32:41
Uh, hey, here's a great user named Cat Vomit from YouTube, says Doug McDermott.
00:32:49
And Gigi is all we need yet, like a Doug McDermott type shooter.
00:32:52
Yeah, it certainly go go with that.
00:32:57
Can I say something? You know, it's funny, I think coming into coming into this game, I don't remember exactly at the top of my head.
00:33:01
Now let me talk about the fact Lakers need shooting.
00:33:03
I think they're in the top five and three point percentage overall in the league.
00:33:06
So when they're when they're when they're bad like they were today, we'll start talking about it.
00:33:10
But overall, they've been pretty **** good at hitting three.
00:33:12
So, and I believe they were third or fourth the last time I checked going into that going into their previous game wrongly, they were middle of the pack in terms of Oh, no, you are right.
00:33:22
They were middle thatjust, lest I had looked Oh, see, they were five.
00:33:28
They were five on the external screen from NBC dot com.
00:33:31
But this game has knocked them down there now.
00:33:33
12. Yeah, yeah, of course.
00:33:35
You should fight for 30 years to give you an idea.
00:33:37
The difference between five and 12 is 120.8%.
00:33:43
Okay, so that's gonna That's gonna change all the time.
00:33:45
Yeah.
00:33:46
Yeah.
00:33:47
Okay, let's get a shift around a lot.
00:33:48
But yes.
00:33:49
Yeah, they have been a little bit better than what you would think.
00:33:50
Shooting from three.
00:33:51
Which, uh, I mean, this season's a 35% is typically league average.
00:33:54
Or so they're 36.1%.
00:33:57
Pretty good. Yes, totally.
00:33:58
Yeah.
00:33:59
Randomly is the Detroit Pistons at 38.8%.
00:34:02
And when we could see that shooting doesn't make that much of a difference for the Pistons.
00:34:05
Also stink is like, Hey, here's a name coming in here.
00:34:08
Emerson Del Duca from Facebook. Trevor Arreaza.
00:34:12
That's why are the King's gonna give him up, though at this point, they're in a playoff race.
00:34:18
As long as he doesn't tell them he's going to the Lakers.
00:34:21
Maia, maybe.
00:34:23
Yeah, If they know he's going to the Lakers, they won't release him just out of spite.
00:34:27
Well, I mean, I feel like the Kings have been desperate just to get in the playoffs last couple of seasons.
00:34:31
That's why they spent some money over over the summer time to bring them in as well.
00:34:34
So I don't know if they'll give him up at this point, though.
00:34:37
I mean, he's only playing you still playing 22 minutes a night over there.
00:34:39
So, you know, and I just don't see him see him being released or bought out by by the Kings or anything like that anytime soon.
00:34:45
Yeah, I mean, it could happen, but I think they would rather use him as a trade ship or something like that.
00:34:49
Yeah.
00:34:50
Of Fabio, Qatar from Facebook says, Why hasn't Danny Green shot his threes consistently so far? I think the answer that this is, that's what Danny Green kind of does.
00:34:58
He's not a super consistent but overall over the long haul.
00:35:02
He's pretty good.
00:35:04
Yeah, he shoot, and I'm looking at this that he's 37% for the season again, above average right there, So I mean, he's been he's been one guy.
00:35:10
Don't say I'm disappointed in Danny Green because I'm not. I think he's been.
00:35:14
I think he's been as as advertised, but I would like to see him hit shots more consistently.
00:35:18
You said that That's kind of been his career trajectory, where sometimes you will feel it will be hot.
00:35:22
He'll hit 50% of his threes for a couple of weeks and then we'll drop off.
00:35:26
But for me, I don't want again.
00:35:27
I don't want to have been disappointed.
00:35:28
I like his game.
00:35:29
I like what he brings the team, especially in terms of his A team defender.
00:35:32
But I would like to see him hit a couple of more consistently hit a couple of shots in game at least cause he's shooting 45 tonight, right? Yeah, and you know what the issue with that is? And this is why this was my one concern.
00:35:42
Was signing Danny Green over the summer? Was that, you know, lookie.
00:35:45
He shot 46% from three last year.
00:35:47
Everybody knows that, said okay, he's a great three point shooter, But the season before that with Spurs, he was down around like 36 37% which is where he's at now in the difference between 36 and 46% is massive.
00:36:00
It's huge when it comes to dating greens value on the floor.
00:36:04
So I do think he's a better three point shooter than what we've seen so far.
00:36:07
But it does concern me a little bit that he's down around that number because that's kind of where he was when he was with the Spurs.
00:36:14
When the spring.
00:36:15
That's part of the reason why this bird's just kind of said Okay, we'll throw Danny Green in that with this with this guy Leonard Trade and send him to Toronto not knowing that they were giving Toronto the piece that they really needed in order to combine with Kawai and give themselves a championship.
00:36:27
But But he stepped it up, so I do hope that he does turn things around.
00:36:31
Yes, I think he is performing a little bit below expectations.
00:36:34
I was hoping he would at least dropped, you know, 41% or something like that, but it's still a lot of time to write that.
00:36:41
Oh yeah, that's what I like.
00:36:42
Look, we're nitpicking on again.
00:36:43
We're nitpicking of things for a team that's 24 3 exactly, which is kind of what we what we have to do with this point.
00:36:52
As far as the month of December goes, he's at just 30% from three for the month of December.
00:36:58
So that's a little bit of recency bias.
00:37:00
Coming into play here is 38% for the month of November, and then October he shot 50% from three.
00:37:05
So that's that's part of it.
00:37:07
Here is, he has definitely slowed down.
00:37:09
So over the last few weeks, you've been seeing a lot of Mrs from Danny Green, which is an indication of how he's done all season.
00:37:15
Yeah, yeah, you're right.
00:37:16
But I mean again, you want to see that you want to see that start to turn around and get better as you get in later into the season.
00:37:20
Because that's what that's what.
00:37:21
The regular season for a team with championship aspirations.
00:37:24
It's for you want to be clicking on all cylinders come time for April May.
00:37:27
So hopefully this is just a down run for him, and he's able to turn things around well, as we get later into the schedule.
00:37:32
Yeah, yep.
00:37:33
Um, let's see the Lakers free throw shooting will be a concern in the playoffs.
00:37:39
Do you agree? Is that gonna be a problem? Um, yeah.
00:37:44
I mean, yes and no one.
00:37:45
Last year we used to complain about how bad, how bad the free throw shooting was 27 daily in free throw percentage.
00:37:50
Yeah, they got to get going.
00:37:51
And we were talking about at the at the end of the game there, too.
00:37:53
I'm like, Who's your? You got to go to a D.
00:37:55
Is your best your best resource shooters? 86% shooter.
00:37:57
So he should be the guy getting the inbounds and getting intentionally fellow. I know that one.
00:38:01
They inbounded the ball on.
00:38:02
LeBron was kind of, you know what the other end of the court when you went to the line there, But yeah, they need.
00:38:06
They need to have guys either step up consistently, hit them or find ways to get 80 open so that he's the guy go into a line at the end of game.
00:38:12
When it's concept, I think I would be more concerned with the frequency of their free throw shooting than their actual percentage, because it's an issue.
00:38:19
But like how much of that is? Dwight is shooting free throws and JaVale McGee is shooting for them.
00:38:24
These are the guys that are taking them, Yeah, I mean, I think that's certainly part of a guys that are just terrible from line or taking a lot of them.
00:38:30
But the Lakers or 17th in free throws, attempted 17 for a team with A D and LeBron.
00:38:35
I feel like that number should be a lot higher, but who else do you have? It was a creator on the team, though.
00:38:40
That's the thing with 80 and LeBron.
00:38:41
Those guys, like JaVale McGee and Dwight Howard are getting free throws off of offensive rebounds or dishes from LeBron James, right? Nobody else so they don't really have Guys who penetrated are able to create contact.
00:38:51
So I again, that's that's another thing.
00:38:53
We can look at that eventually.
00:38:55
If they do want to add a piece, get somebody else was able to create offense and we talked about that.
00:38:59
So a guy like Kyle Kuzma and I've said this a lot this season.
00:39:02
He's better when he's going to the hoop and creating, contacted and getting layups and doing that.
00:39:07
So yeah, you're right.
00:39:08
They should be getting more free throws but beyond LeBron and 80 which one of those guys on the roster is like, Yeah, that guy's gonna break his guy down off the dribble and get to the river.
00:39:15
Most of these guys are more spot up shooters like a CPS more.
00:39:18
He did drive tonight and sort of dating Green.
00:39:20
But most of these guys were spot up shooters, and there's a reason why they are.
00:39:23
I mean, that's what the Lakers targeted spot of understanding on drawn line.
00:39:26
Frito. So good point.
00:39:28
Let's see on the James Louise Via Riel said.
00:39:33
On the positive side, L.
00:39:34
A.
00:39:35
Is 24 3 and Koosman still hasn't found his rule yet.
00:39:37
I like you, James.
00:39:38
Get the glass is half full.
00:39:40
Take yeah, 24 3 And Kyle Kuzma hasn't really got going.
00:39:44
It hasn't even really been playing over recent weeks.
00:39:47
Imagine if he does like, what does that do to the same ceiling? If Cosmo does figure it out? If they let's say they stick with him, you don't move him and he starts clicking.
00:39:54
He starts giving you 15 to 17 points tonight. Consistently.
00:39:58
What does that do for the Lakers? Well, I think that makes him the undoubtedly the best team in the league right now.
00:40:04
Like I said, I mean, people are gonna say the bucks, and I can't argue with that.
00:40:06
With the Bucks won 18 straight or something like that.
00:40:08
They look like a juggernaut in the East.
00:40:10
And that conference is going through Milwaukee.
00:40:12
You know what I mean? I don't get it twisted.
00:40:13
We all sitting here saying that Oh, the Sixers, they're gonna improve.
00:40:16
Like, no, Milwaukee is the king in the East.
00:40:18
I'm looking at the Lakers.
00:40:19
They already have separated themselves from teams like the Clippers a little bit.
00:40:22
And we talked about that in the standings.
00:40:24
And And if Kyle Cruise and I can bring that, it's not that you need him to bring it once every two or three games, you need him to be Ah Lou Williams type guy that is scoring double digits every single game.
00:40:33
He's out there.
00:40:34
And if he does that hoof man, that's gonna be tough having the Lakers.
00:40:37
How much higher can you go from 24? Three things.
00:40:40
We're talking about that part.
00:40:41
Yeah, but here's the thing.
00:40:43
Like, he's not the Lou Williams type of guy where you throw him the ball and he's just gonna get buckets.
00:40:47
He's gotta get it off of off the ball actions.
00:40:50
And so that's something that I think it's going to take even more time to click because the Lakers have not only gotta gotta figure out ways to get Koosman the ball in positions where he can score, and he has got to get himself right and get comfortable doing that.
00:41:01
So those two things combined are going to be, Ah, challenge.
00:41:05
So we'll see.
00:41:06
Like, Look, you stick to Williams on the Hawks.
00:41:08
He's gonna get buckets.
00:41:09
You put Lou Williams on the Knicks, he gets buckets.
00:41:11
You put him on the Clippers.
00:41:12
He gets, but it doesn't matter where he is.
00:41:14
Right like that matters to a degree, but he's going to score no matter what.
00:41:17
Cosmo, I think, has got to figure out his role and all of that.
00:41:20
But if he does like we're saying here and like James is saying man skies, good luck, good luck stopping.
00:41:27
That gets going, Yeah, let's save on, Odom says from YouTube's.
00:41:33
His next two games are with teams above 500.
00:41:35
Lakers should get at least one of those because Indiana isn't as tough as the heat or the Mavericks.
00:41:39
Yeah, The heat were just a good win the other night.
00:41:42
Do you see it? Okay, so the next two games on the road, Pacers Bucks? What? Are you happy with it? Do they have to go two for two? One for two over two.
00:41:51
What do you think? I think we're all in the same boat here When I say that, we're expecting them to win every single night, so I mean, you know, I mean, I expected I'm gonna go to a No, because they're a great team again.
00:42:04
Could I see them losing that game in Milwaukee and Indies? No joke, either.
00:42:07
They're 18 to 9. They're very deep team.
00:42:09
Similar to the heat.
00:42:10
No, they don't have.
00:42:11
Ah, Jimmy Butler is an All star, not a superstar.
00:42:14
You know, that'll change hope.
00:42:15
Victor Oladipo comes back fully healthy, but Malcolm Brogdon is leading the way for Indiana.
00:42:19
And they're not a team that has one guy that that's a centerpiece of that team.
00:42:23
So, to me, Indy should definitely be a win.
00:42:25
But that Milwaukee game is gonna be it's gonna be tough on Thursday.
00:42:28
Yeah, it absolutely is.
00:42:29
But I think they're also gonna be getting up for that.
00:42:31
I'm almost a little bit worried about the Indiana game because I think they're gonna be looking ahead to the Milwaukee game.
00:42:36
Yeah, I think that happened.
00:42:38
Well, we said that we said that they were a bad today because they were looking ahead to the next games by looking like three games ahead to the morning.
00:42:44
They were looking ahead of the other day.
00:42:46
Uh, Eric Gagne, peu from Facebook, said ever since he wears Pumas, he's talking about Kyle Kuzma.
00:42:52
He's in a slump. So is Danny Green.
00:42:54
Look, I need that I need the n b.
00:42:56
A jam voice isn't the shoes, the shoes? You might be a Is that what's happening here? It's the shoot.
00:43:02
Maybe Koosman just needs to switch to shoot.
00:43:03
I bet if you put on Kobe's, we'd see some Mamba mentality of Yeah, well, you know what? Why? Leonard's playing an 80 year old man's new new mountain shoes and he's lighting it up.
00:43:11
So you know what? It might be right there with the movement thing, but yeah, we need to get whatever they need to do to get Kyle Cruise my going, whether that shoes or he's wearing different spandex, we don't know.
00:43:21
But they gotta try everything to get that man rolling.
00:43:23
Because, like you said, once he gets going, this team is gonna be that much more unstoppable.
00:43:27
Yeah, very true.
00:43:28
Roman Rays from YouTube says.
00:43:30
If people are complaining this much now, I can't imagine how they act after a loss.
00:43:34
I don't think people are complaining too much.
00:43:37
It's just you always look for improvement, and to me, it's It's exciting because you think about how much they could improve on how much better it could be and their 24 3 right now.
00:43:44
So I don't look it as complaining.
00:43:46
I'm looking at Hey, imagine how good they're gonna be if they fix X, Y and Z, or if they had this kind of player.
00:43:51
If they do this so they do that a team is never a finished product.
00:43:54
I don't care how good they are.
00:43:56
I don't care how dominant the Warriors were with Kevin Durant and Clay Thompson and Curry and dream on Green.
00:44:02
Oh, that it's not a finished product.
00:44:04
You can always improve.
00:44:05
You can always get better.
00:44:07
And that's the way I'm looking at.
00:44:08
I'm not looking at as were complaining when they won 17 games in a season.
00:44:12
Then we're complaining, right? Because obviously, things are not going well.
00:44:16
Life is good right now for the Lakers.
00:44:18
This is not complaining.
00:44:19
This is talking.
00:44:20
This is just looking at ways that they could do even better.
00:44:24
Yeah, that's exactly I'm again.
00:44:26
I'm not judging this team based on how they play in Atlanta.
00:44:29
I said this a lot on the show.
00:44:30
Okay, You know what? You play down the level of competition, but you're still finding ways to win.
00:44:34
And you didn't see that with that This team last year right there.
00:44:37
They lost to the mix.
00:44:38
They lost to the calves.
00:44:40
They lost a lot of bad teams last season two.
00:44:41
And and right now, it's like that's not even gonna be an option.
00:44:44
But for us, we're looking at it.
00:44:45
Okay? You play a seven game series against the Milwaukee Bucks.
00:44:48
How can you be exposed when I'm looking at it like that? Okay.
00:44:51
Where? They where they can improve in terms of their championship aspirations.
00:44:54
Not the regular season aspiration.
00:44:56
Yeah, exactly.
00:44:57
And that's just it for this team.
00:44:58
Success is not going to be found in the regular season.
00:45:01
As exciting as this is, what matters is going to be the playoffs? Um, let's see.
00:45:06
Somebody mentions.
00:45:07
Dark kid from YouTube says it's because they're low top Pumas.
00:45:11
They don't have good support.
00:45:12
They need.
00:45:13
That's right.
00:45:14
That's right. Gotta You gotta switch it up there.
00:45:16
Let's see daily be, Kay said.
00:45:18
Well, it's the refs.
00:45:20
Hate the Lakers.
00:45:21
I'm not even ready to go down that rabbit hole.
00:45:23
No, that's no. That's wait.
00:45:25
What are we reaching for here on that? With what evidence do we have? The raps later look a bit rough calls, but every team gets some rough. Every team get.
00:45:33
It happens.
00:45:34
It happened 10 years ago with the Adam Hill said.
00:45:37
At what point will LeBron James or 80 taking game off 80 looks a little banged up.
00:45:41
Any news on Cosmos? So nothing on Koosman yet.
00:45:43
We're still just waiting.
00:45:44
We heard he was saying that his ankle is starting to feel a little bit better, okay, so hopefully he'll be ready to go sooner rather than later, but who knows? Nobody's really put a timetable on it.
00:45:52
But LeBron James, Anthony Davis load management taking game off here.
00:45:57
There is it time to start looking at that person? Well, let me know what you think.
00:46:00
Just don't give you my take that I'm bringing up the schedule here.
00:46:03
I just think right now with the way the team is playing and the fact that you're gaining your putting some distance between yourself and the rest of the conference on just the second Seaview everybody else that's in that, you know, three through 67 Like, mash up of teams that you have in the West that are gonna interchange Ah, lot throughout the year.
00:46:18
I just don't see it.
00:46:19
I don't I don't see a reason to do it at this point.
00:46:21
Maybe on the second night of a back to back and you get to game 45 50.
00:46:24
Why not? But right now, just don't mess with a good thing, man.
00:46:27
Everything is rolling right now and and let them be.
00:46:28
What about you? Yeah, I'm doing the same thing I'm saying.
00:46:31
Look, you just you keep rolling right now.
00:46:32
Maybe once the calendar turns to 2020 Then you can start looking at some specific games where they could shut one of them down, uh, and go that route.
00:46:40
But right now, given the schedule we've got coming up, I think you want to test this team.
00:46:43
There's so many new faces here, that air together.
00:46:46
I think you want them to jump into the fire against the Bucks against the Clippers.
00:46:50
Against they've got the Nuggets again and you're the Nuggets are better team.
00:46:53
I think that what we saw the other day out of them or the other week So you've got some tough opponents coming up.
00:46:58
And so I want to see the Lakers get thrown into the fire winner lose, because I think that experience is important, wants to get into the playoffs.
00:47:04
And then once you get into January and you started hitting some easier games that maybe you look at it kind of taking your foot off the gas a little bit and using some load management.
00:47:13
Yeah, Yeah, Good. 100% on that.
00:47:15
Okay. Uh, let's see.
00:47:19
Roel Valli.
00:47:20
Oh, Fernandez.
00:47:21
And I hope I did ok with that name.
00:47:23
Said hi, Trevor.
00:47:24
and Jess.
00:47:25
What teams scare you the most this season? And why? Good.
00:47:30
All right, let me get one team that scares me.
00:47:32
You know, free to admit this is the Clippers.
00:47:35
I think the Clippers are good team.
00:47:36
I think that their perimeter defense is really good.
00:47:38
And it's an interesting contrast with Lakers into your defense.
00:47:41
And I think their ability to shoot the three makes them a real big threat for the Lakers, especially if they attack the glass the way they did when the Lakers played them the first game of the season.
00:47:49
Because in that way they can kind of mitigate the Lakers size advantage, and if they could do that, they give themselves an advantage.
00:47:55
Plus, I hate watching good players go up against Patrick Beverley because I'm always worried about injury, so that would be my team.
00:48:01
But just what? What do you think? Uh, Clippers obviously agree on that, but to me it's Dallas.
00:48:06
They played the Lakers twice, is here, want to once in the into overtime once they put a pretty good beating on the Lakers hero that that Sunday and a true um, the reason why I'm saying that basketball, and it's old cliche basketball, simply.
00:48:17
It's a game of matchups, right? If you could match up, you can have a team that is.
00:48:20
You see this in the tournament, where it seems like Oh, that they should win by 20 that the line is minus 19 and 1/2 and this is a team that they only see on tape before.
00:48:28
But they just have the advantage in certain matchups in the way the Clippers play, which is spread the floor look.
00:48:33
Adoption to do his thing, take a crap load of threes.
00:48:36
I don't think they could beat the Lakers in a seven game series, but I think they could make it very, very interesting.
00:48:40
And you don't want to go into a Game seven against a team that can shoot 50 three's and and hit 25 minutes a night cause that'll be lights out at that point.
00:48:47
Yeah, I think what it comes down to for me with the Mavericks and you're absolutely right.
00:48:51
They could certainly look that you can live by the three.
00:48:54
You could die by the three.
00:48:55
They make enough, they can win a game.
00:48:56
Definitely they can win ball games they could even win a Siri's right if you make enough, but I could I break it down to this? I think.
00:49:03
Okay, that was one regular season game, If you're if you give Frank Vogel and Jason Kidd and Lionel Hollins and Phil Handy.
00:49:11
Who, by the way, those guys communicating tremendously with the defense.
00:49:15
They had a baby the other night against Miami, where they were awesome with their communication.
00:49:18
They got the stop.
00:49:19
The coaching staff helped get that stop.
00:49:21
Um, I think if you give those guys time to prepare and you let them break down what the Mavericks have done offensively and you give them time to come up with counters for that, I think the Lakers were gonna find ways to not shut down the Mavericks.
00:49:34
But at least stop a lot of the open looks that the Mavericks are getting and and make life a little bit more difficult on them.
00:49:39
So I would I would give the vote of confidence in the Lakers.
00:49:41
They're just because I think the coaching staff will be able to lock in on the Mavericks as opposed to just one game out of 82 where you kind of just go.
00:49:48
Okay, here's the scouting report.
00:49:49
Trying not to let don check, you know, hit the stepback three here, trying out toe.
00:49:53
Let poor Zynga's get open looks from here.
00:49:54
Things like that.
00:49:55
When they get a little more detailed, I think the Lakers will get a bigger advantage.
00:49:59
Oh, I think the liquor.
00:50:00
Like I said, I don't think the Lakers would be in the Lakers play.
00:50:03
And I think the Lakers would beat him in six games.
00:50:05
You know, five or six games in a playoff series, but that is just an interesting match up to me because you're right to be the number one.
00:50:10
The number one team they have to compete against, obviously in their own division and conference own city really is the Clippers, right? And the Clippers are are not unknown status now.
00:50:18
They're not a great matchup for the Lakers, and the Lakers are gonna have to find a way.
00:50:21
Eventually, they're gonna have to go through one of those teams.
00:50:24
The Clippers of the Mavericks, and and, yeah, I'd rather be the Mavericks in the Clippers.
00:50:27
But yes, I agree the Clippers are scary, but the Mavericks are the other team in the West that I look at and say, You know what? That you know, they could get the Lakers someone, but, I mean, even teams like Houston.
00:50:36
Yeah, James Harden could score 50 but they mean the Lakers in a seven game series in the East.
00:50:41
You got to say the bucks, right? Bucks? Yeah.
00:50:43
Yeah.
00:50:44
That's the only team that really scares me in the not too many six years at all.
00:50:47
They don't worry you.
00:50:48
No, the Boston No, no, no.
00:50:52
I don't think I don't think those teams can compete with the Lakers.
00:50:55
And I again I'm not looking at in a one game basis.
00:50:56
Like how you look at look at seven game series.
00:50:58
Yeah.
00:50:59
I mean, I don't think Boston's gonna be would be able to hang with with the Lakers in a seven game series.
00:51:02
Not to say they're gonna get swept.
00:51:04
They wouldn't.
00:51:05
It might win two or three games and I go to Game seven, but to me it's it's it's Milwaukee, the Clippers.
00:51:09
And then the next year down, I'd probably go with the members.
00:51:12
Yeah, and look, you've got Miami is second in the East right now.
00:51:15
and I'm not that worried about Miami.
00:51:17
No, I don't think I think out of all those teams that we talked about these, And by the way, we shouldn't just completely dismiss the Toronto Raptors, right? Yeah, Just the idea.
00:51:28
I know.
00:51:29
I told you guys from the West Coast of candidates l A guy supporting a New York team.
00:51:34
I was not cheering for them last year in the playoffs at all, but they don't have the superstars.
00:51:39
They're very good team.
00:51:40
They're gonna be They're gonna make the playoffs, being getting past the second round. Let's be honest.
00:51:43
All right, I'll go with you there.
00:51:44
I'm going to say that out of all those teams in the East No, the team that could get up, that next level is the 76 years. Yeah.
00:51:51
I think if there's anybody that could join the Milwaukee Bucks, I mean, not that they had done it yet.
00:51:55
It's not time to worry about them yet, but they could see the potential for them to do that. Yeah.
00:52:00
Yeah, I'm beat, and Simmons can figure that out.
00:52:02
They'll bill they'll, uh, they'll definitely be a contender.
00:52:04
But again, I mean, this just looks like we're on a collision course for Milwaukee versus an L A team.
00:52:09
We're hoping it's the Lakers, obviously in the final, but it looks like it's It's Milwaukee's time right now, all right, so let's finish with this.
00:52:15
Michael Callaway, from YouTube says that LeBron passed a Dwight, though.
00:52:19
Was that the play that I think I was the play of the season so far? What do you think that LeBron dribbling across the across the free throw line goes between his legs to Dwight, who just hangs, hangs in the air, throws down the hammer dunk? He actually did this dunk in warm ups with thinkers, were getting ready to play the Miami Heat.
00:52:35
He did that dunk in warm ups, and now he just pulled it off in a game.
00:52:38
Was that the best play of the season so far? Yeah, to me, it was I mean, I LeBron James has been human highlight reel to steal Dominique Wilkins nickname from that, I mean, this entire season he just making these crazy place.
00:52:49
But the court vision, the finish finish by Dwight adds, incredible.
00:52:53
When you when you finish with that emphasis and you just got home.
00:52:56
You know, you're throwing it down.
00:52:57
That always that always makes the past that much better.
00:52:59
So that was just a flawless play, The way it all went down. Yeah.
00:53:02
Look, I loved that Dwight attack that thing like there's a chance when you go in the basket that hard the way Dwight did that.
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When you **** your arm back like that and you really go Not that I know from personal experience, by the way.
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Okay.
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But when you really go to the basket like that, like cases of you blowing it, the chances of you missing it go up right.
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Like it was a chance that you don't elevate quite as much.
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Do you think you're going to and you slam the ball off the back of the rim and it goes flying off, Then every laugh to you and everything, right? The chance of failure goes up.
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But I love that Dwight didn't just go.
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If you didn't go up like to hand dunk or anything like that, He didn't go up soft. He didn't go up.
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Thank you. Okay. I'm gonna make sure I get the two points there.
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He went up to steal souls, right? He went up that that was going to be on LeBron James Highlight reel when he finishes his career.
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And I love that he did that.
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He attacked that thing with aggression.
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And that was like it was Ah, moment of throwback.
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Dwight, it was Superman.
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Dwight, Uh, for those reasons, I've got it as the play of the season so far.
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I'm with you on that, man.
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That was That was I let out that way.
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Try and be quiet at the end of the game because people who don't know we always have a little bit of a leg between us.
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So I'm gonna go ahead because I'm on the spectrum feed, and you're basically watching a week passed.
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So, um, I'm always trying to put that my reaction that just sit there.
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Oh, you know what I mean? Like right away.
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That was that.
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That play did you do So we're watching.
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At the same time, you have been a **** what I missed.
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But I'm glad my brother on the phone or connected with me just at that point.
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Yeah, that's right.
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Because I would have you would have totally ruined it for me.
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but, uh, but I couldn't have blamed you.
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Write on that play.
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You had to react.
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I had my three year old next to me, and it was the hardest thing not to.
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Not to get too loud or crazy, because I certainly would have scared her 40 times.
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Let it may be a swear word or something like that.
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So be careful with that stuff.
00:54:46
Exactly.
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All right, Jazz final thoughts before we get out here.
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Uh, final thoughts, ugly game, ugly shooting, sloppy turnovers.
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But the 24 3 So you take that.
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You take that.
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That's that's that's all it comes down to.
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What about you? 24 3? You'll take it.
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A win is a win.
00:55:01
We're excited now.
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Things were gonna get tough.
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Gonna be, ah, gonna be really interesting to see how they handle this stretch of games here.
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When you've got teams like the Pacers, the Bucks, the Nuggets, the Clippers, we're gonna find out what they're made of.
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So far, so good in a pretty good month of December and we'll see where things go from here.
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Hello, everybody.
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Welcome into the Lakers Nation postgame show.
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Well, it wasn't pretty.
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It wasn't a great performance by any means, but the Lakers pick up the win over the Atlanta Hawks, keep their away from Staples Center record unblemished.
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They win 101 to 96.
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Kind of slept, walked through a lot of the game.
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We're gonna break it down, talk all about it and talk a little bit about trade Season two, which actually officially starts today.
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Just how you doing, man? Frustrating game.
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But somehow the Lakers powered through it.
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We'll not be one team from Atlanta lost today because my Niners went down to the story Falcons Both.
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They will say that ran for another Isa tough.
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I look like the guys at the Magic City flew.
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Man, I don't know what they did in Atlanta last night.
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Supposed to be a very good party town, but early start.
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So I mean, you know, they're a little bit out of it.
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Um, just an ugly game.
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I mean, you shoot five for 31 in the MBA from three point line and still end up winning.
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To me, it was it was a struggle for them, and I just think everything looked off.
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But again, it's a game that that's based on winds.
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And there are 2024 3 right now, which sounds ridiculous, but that's that's where they're at 24 3 Yeah, it's it's incredible.
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It's amazing that that's their record right now.
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But at the same time, if you're a Laker fan watching this game tonight, you can't be super thrilled with what we saw.
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I mean, it's kind of like the Orlando game that the Lakers didn't play very well.
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They were kind of sleepwalking through a lot of it, but they had their stinker game against the teams that they can get away with it with, you know, I mean, look like 22 turnovers, five of 31 shooting from deep.
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And they win the game like they should have lost this game by 20 based on just those two things.
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And it didn't happen because they were fortunate enough to be playing the Atlanta Hawks trying.
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Well, you know, it's funny.
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I mean, we we said that before, too.
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And remember some of those games they had early in the season where they kind of struggled to put weaker opponents away, you know what I mean? And so we were like, Oh, we gotta wait till we gotta wait till they get to that stretch of games where they're gonna play some really good teams.
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And if they play that way, they're gonna get the you know they're gonna get blown out.
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They're gonna lose by 20 were saying that about going into Denver and Utah.
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And they passed almost every test so far.
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So I agree with you.
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I think they're almost having this thing of playing down to their competition at times that and again.
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I mean, and I think we've talked about this a lot on the show. Right.
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If you're looking at it, were you ever concerned that they were gonna lose the game? No, not that concerned me if they're given the mistakes that they made.
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This was a game that they almost tried to fumble away.
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They tried toe, tried to lose.
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They tried to allow a touchdown in the last second on the very last play of the game.
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I don't know who else did that today, but thanks.
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Thanks for that one.
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Appreciate it.
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Stick the knife in a little bit deeper.
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No problem, Jen.
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It's no problem.
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I'm here for you, so Yeah, but they still found a way to win.
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Like this game definitely would have been lost last year.
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And we've talked about that, but I never was all that concerned because they're playing the Atlanta Hawks.
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It was like, Okay, you know, all they have to do is really focus for, you know, 34 minutes and they're gonna win this thing as long as they can pull that off in the fourth quarter.
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They kind of did.
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But we just didn't really see that that focus at any point for the Lakers that we've we're used to seeing for them.
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They just they never really got everything clicking And it was a weird game because of that.
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Yeah, man.
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And, you know, in the first half, I mean, I tweeted out some videos to of it.
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It's like a handsome highlight reel plays, you know what I mean? Like, LeBron James passed to Dwight Howard, the LeBron James dunk that he averages rolling down the down the paint and threw one down there.
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But it was still, it would be energy was like it was a scrimmage like an intra squad scrimmage or a preseason game.
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It was like, Oh, they had some highlights.
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But I mean, it was just an ugly, ugly, ugly game overall for the Lakers.
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And again, I'm not taking credit away from them because they still found a way to win.
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But for me, the concerning part was okay.
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They got 59 points combined, like you got 70 points combined for LeBron Etienne KCP.
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So that means your bench, you know, and your other starter, Danny Green, but eventually contributed, uh, 18 points here and Miranda had 11 of them.
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So they were They were struggling a lot just in terms of offensively.
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Defensively.
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They were really good in the paint.
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They didn't give up much.
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The Hawks I was looking at that only gave up 34 points in the paint, but their perimeter defense would.
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They were slow on rotations, slow getting out to challenge shots.
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And And Atlanta obviously got to the free throw line quite a bit and hit a bunch of them, too.
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So, to me, it was just an ugly lacks a physical game that they somehow found a way to win.
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And again, you're right.
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You play like this against the, uh, the L A Clippers, the Milwaukee Bucks on Thursday.
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They're gonna lose by 25.
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But they got away with it because it's a story.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And speaking of getting away with poor defense on the perimeter, what the heck was LeBron James doing? Yeah, that play Lakers are up. Three.
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Vince Carter drives the lane.
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Yes, 40 year old or barrel is now 41.
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Maybe you're already started.
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Drives the lane, and LeBron doesn't slide over to stop the drive.
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Which he shouldn't He shouldn't you give him the two when you're up? Three.
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But he also doesn't cut out to the shooter.
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He just stood there.
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Somebody on Twitter commented.
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It looked like his controller got unplugged.
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I don't think you but they give up the White Open three, and they were very, very fortunate that the Hawks missed it.
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I think that play encapsulate the Lakers effort in this entire game, other than LeBron in 80 having moments offensively, that was exactly like LeBron literally just stood there.
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He didn't like it was like he just zoned out who's staring at the other court.
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Maybe he saw a nice looking lady under the group at the other end that he can do that.
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But whatever it is, you would just caught up in it.
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And and to me, it was kind of indicative of the team's effort. Defensively.
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Again, they get, they give up 96 points only.
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So it's not like they gave up 159 still found a way to win.
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They were just very lazy on their on their perimeter defense and and like I said, the help side rotation was quite slow.
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But it was just an interesting and a weird, weird game in the fact that you know what like yet three with three pointers are 53 pointers in conventional game and still found a way to win.
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So everything seemed kind of off.
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And you are in the third game of of the road trip, You know what I mean? So they're gonna They're gonna take some time, but whatever. Maybe they're tired.
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But again, you're just gonna take it as it comes in 24 3 and that's all that matters is you go into the next game now.
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What about load management? There were a ton of people on Twitter.
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They were upset about this saying, Why aren't the Lakers trying to blow this team out so that you can let LeBron James and Anthony Davis rest in the fourth quarter and then lo and behold, 80 tweaks tweaks his ankle on the fourth and he played through it? He was fine, But who knows how that's gonna respond tomorrow? What? That means moving forward for him.
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Do the Lakers need to start to try to put more pressure on teams right from the get go? Or can they continue doing this against the weaker teams? What? What are your thoughts on that situation, Jess? Well, I'm looking at it like this for 27 games into the season, so I mean, you know what? Let's just say we're roughly 35% through through the schedule.
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At this point, it's become a habit.
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It's not like it's it's This is something that, oh, you know, they just had a real off game and that kind of place.
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Oh, no.
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We've seen them play against week of competition and allow the team to stay in it towards the end of the game.
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So I don't know if it's just something that they expected, they can turn it on in the third quarter.
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They might, you know, kind of had the feel things out for the first couple.
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But for me, I think it's almost becoming habit.
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And the things when you develop bad habits are hard to break.
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And so what? I'm looking at it like that.
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Like, is this team just like Okay, well, we know we're playing in a crappy team today.
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Let's just say Atlanta socks right? But I mean, there's six and 21 or whatever they are now.
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But, um, you know, if if you're going into that with thinking, it's gonna come back and bite you once, they're lucky that it hasn't yet against a bad team, but if this keeps on happening, it eventually will.
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And then you'll have people coming looking for blood at that point.
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Yeah, I mean, at some point it's going to happen, but, like you said, it's a hard habit to break.
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The Lakers are like me in college, where you give me five days to do a paper.
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I'm gonna wait until the last day Yeah, and then trying to cover the Lakers going into the game.
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But okay, realistically, against a team like the Hawks, we need to play well for four minutes.
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So let's let's do that in the last four minutes in the game and everything will be fine.
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We won't have to worry about alleged Let's procrastinate.
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Let's wait until then.
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And yet here we are, where they're winning these games.
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At some point, it may burn them, but but the flip side of this the glass is half full.
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Take is the Lakers were really, really good because they can get away with doing this and not flipping the switch till later and later and later in the game.
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And yet they're still waiting.
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Yeah, and and you're right, and that that that is a sign of a championship team.
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And I'm like I said, I mean, I know I'm not gonna compare the Lakers and Warriors in terms of the workers when they were obviously not this year, but in terms of the run that they had.
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But they had had that several times.
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And they're completely different teams and how they're made up.
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But they did that several times to wrote the regular season where what? The Lakers are losing to the Bulls by 12 and 1/2.
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And then he checked the score again in the third quarter.
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And you're like, Oh, ****, they're up by 50 now, you know what I mean? So again, I don't want to get into a habit of doing that, but this is a nice running games.
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We're gonna go on here, they're gonna go at Indy Tuesday.
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Obviously, if you join in Milwaukee on Thursday, then you go home to her home to Denver and then against the Clippers on Christmas.
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So I'm interested to see how they handle that four game stretch in terms of are they gonna bring the same level energy that we saw today? or are we gonna see them kind of say, All right, we're ready.
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You know what I'm saying? That they will be ready to go.
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And so and they've shown that all season.
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It's not like they had 44 showings, you know, two or three times in a row.
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And when they played, they leveled up in competition.
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Other than maybe that first game of the year, where they play the Clippers, they responded really well, yeah, that's just like they are.
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They have stepped up when they need to, right? That's that's what they've done.
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That's what this team has shown.
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I'm not gonna look at this and say, Oh, this is a sign the Lakers aren't very good because we did that.
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We made that mistake already, right? We said, Oh, we had all the people who were saying the Lakers aren't that good because their schedule has been so easy and they're still barely winning some of these games.
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And then they went and they beat Denver.
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In Denver, they beat Utah in Utah, They run off this this run of solid games, beating good teams, and they showed us that they can.
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It's just a matter of flipping the switch and then putting forth the effort and over 82 million season, it's hard to sustain effort throughout the entire thing.
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So I suspect, like, you're saying Jazz, we're going to see a better Lakers team over, especially these next four games, because they're gonna have to.
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I wouldn't even be surprised a part of the reason why we saw this level of energy tonight is because they're looking ahead.
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Okay, things were going to get tough here.
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Yeah, I agree with you.
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You would have the tendency to do that, especially the NBA's when you're when you're a team that is an upper echelon championship, if not the number one team.
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I mean, it's a toss up in my mind between the Lakers and the Bucks right now, but if you're looking at it like that, yeah, Okay.
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Now look at her schedule.
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Bring a pretty good Indiana team.
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They're gonna be hiding in that Thursday game.
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And then you got that run.
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Like I said of Denver in L.
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A.
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The clippers at home.
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So, um, you're right in that sense.
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I think they might have overlooked this game, and it might have whatever to me.
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I'm looking at it now like you.
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Look at the way they've responded after losing Game seven in a row after they lost the opening night game.
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10 enroll after they lost the Raptor.
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Now they want they've won seven in a row, so it's almost like and that Dallas game, they were sleepy, right? Remember that Dallas game? The lives lost that they had? That's right, and we've seen them bounce back from it, so they've corrected it real quick.
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So it's almost like, once that actually has hit him in the butt for not doing Ah, not bringing the energy the whole game, and they've been able to kind of flip the switch.
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It's It's good to see how they responded after that as well.
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Just this is where we're at on the season.
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You started talking about how many they had won in a row, and I realized, like I don't know, off top my head, how many they've won in a row.
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I've kind of lost track.
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Yeah, that's that's incredible.
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Because of last six, I would have never lost track.
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I would have been going Oh my gosh, The Lakers have won five and rose in this incredible.
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But now it's become a normal scenes.
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Become just a regular thing.
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Yeah, I completely forgot how many games had one, and Robie is.
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I've been paying that much attention to it because it's like, OK, they want another game Not to say that we're becoming jaded or anything.
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We're just expecting it, but still, it is impressive how they're they're rattling off these win streaks and we're coming to expect them to play this super high level and then when they don't when we have a down game like this, it's so noticeable.
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So I do expect them to rein things up.
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I do expect us to see a better team over these next four games and it should be a big test for them.
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So I'm excited for what we've got coming up here.
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You know, it's funny if they won this game like this last season, we would have been like, Hey, you know what? Look a team sugar, get out there and win.
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You know what way would have been, like talk all the good things that they did.
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But this year, like I said, the expectations are just different man like they're looking at it like this is a championship team, no excuses for them.
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So even if they win and we talked about this, it's hard to win every night in the NBA, and these guys have done it basically 90% of the time that they played or whatever it is, and we're still kind of sit.
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You're like, Well, they could bring a little bit more energy they should be doing this minute.
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But bottom line is way.
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Find something just before we finish up this this'll game.
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If you were to name like a player of the game for this one from the Lakers side, who would you go with, like who stood out to you because I'm looking to the statute? I mean, like, there's the obvious ones.
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LeBron and a d.
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But the turnovers were high and all that was there anybody that you thought should get the player of the game owners for this one.
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I'm gonna go.
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I'm gonna go with Jared Dudley.
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I think you know, I'm just getting center.
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I'll take a look at Jared Jared Dudley with the stat line of the year.
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He has 17 minutes zero shots.
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Zero free throws, attempted rebounds, zero assists, one steal Z locks at four.
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Fouls plus minus zero.
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That's the stat line of the year place.
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I love you like I will get him to play with the game, but, uh to be Obviously I think of this one.
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I'd probably go with LeBron just for the fact that I thought of energy level was great in the first half.
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Not so much a 2nd 23 I think of the half, right, So nine points in the second half.
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But I'll toss up between LeBron and Jared.
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Dudley will go it. What about you? I'm gonna go.
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It is a big battle between LeBron it and Jared Dudley.
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I think 80 made a big defensive play at the end there.
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Can you give him credit on that one? 27 points.
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13 rebounds for him, But But America LeBron 32 points.
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Four threes.
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He was basically the only guy who could hit threes.
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Aside from Rondo.
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Hit 1 13 rebounds.
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Seven says three blocks for LeBron, so we got to go with him even though I did think it was kind of off it.
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Strange to say that He scored 32 points, 13 and seven, and it was kind of an off game for him.
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But it was he.
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Maybe it's because he just flew to see his kids game brownies game yesterday, then flew right back.
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I mean, that's that's tough to do, So maybe that was part of it.
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But yeah, play the game.
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I think I would have to go with LeBron James.
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Just another thing we need to talk about today, December 15th and you know what that means? That means that all the contracts signed over the summer around the N v A are now eligible to be traded.
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That means it's trade season.
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It's finally happening now.
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We can see trades really take place because so much of the league was in free agency this last summer that it's made trades really, really difficult to compete complete.
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I mean, you look it, really, The Lakers.
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Look at all the guys that were signed this year.
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You look at what Javale McGee, Danny Green, KCP Jared Dudley, Dwight Howard, Avery, Bradley, Rondo, Caruso.
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All of those guys were ineligible to be traded right and it's about that for a lot of teams, around the league, so it is now officially trade season.
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Do you see the Lakers making any moves on the market? I I'm gonna go with this.
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And this is what I believe.
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Just because the fact that how the team is doing so far and again way all know with one diet that the Lakers should try and get and need to get eventually and we don't know, they're not gonna get him through a trade.
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We know that at this point, right on this.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, on its or maybe a quiet Leonard or something.
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But, you know, we're looking at a gondola as the guy that's gonna help Steve put him put him, if not there, if they're not already over the top over the top, you know what I mean? But I I I'm like, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
00:15:06
Ah, your to your team sitting here at 24 3 Why mess with why mess with a good thing and if you have to, But I mean, there is I do think there's room for it because you look at it, you don't wanna have to play Quinn Cook in a playoff game.
00:15:18
You don't You know what I mean? You don't want to have them out there from, so I do think there's room for improvement.
00:15:22
And again, once coups comes back, you're gonna see the rotation of the settlement.
00:15:25
Jared Dudley.
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Probably not gonna get any minutes once Cruz is back in the lineup.
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But, um, I don't know.
00:15:29
I mean, I just don't unless there's something you can get on the cheap and you're not giving up any second round pick and some cash or something like that.
00:15:35
I don't see them making a movie about you.
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I think they'll be.
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They'll be aggressive.
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I think they'll try it.
00:15:40
James Shepherd from Facebook is saying, What moves do you want to see, Trevor? You know, I think that the Lakers need to, and we've talked about the punch.
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I think they need to address two things I think that you need.
00:15:49
You could use a bench score.
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You can use kind of somebody to come in.
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They can really just create buckets.
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And, you know, the names have been thrown out.
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Include, like Jamal Crawford.
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People have talked about picking him up.
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Uh, Lou Williams type player.
00:16:00
Obviously, the Clippers are gonna be trading him or anything like that.
00:16:03
And then the other thing you need is like you mentioned.
00:16:04
Andre Iguodala is another wing defender.
00:16:06
So one of those two things, Or maybe you can find both of them? Probably not.
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But the complication is, and we've talked about this.
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You've got javale, McGee.
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You've got KCP and Rondo all have de facto no trade clauses because they would lose their bird rights if they're traded.
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So when you're looking at salary matching, it becomes really difficult.
00:16:27
You go down the list, you say? Okay, Anthony Davis is off limits.
00:16:30
LeBron James is off limits.
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JaVale has a no trade clause, not a real one.
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But in fact the one KCP has one.
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And then Rondo has one.
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So that leaves you with a pretty limited number of guys to trade.
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Unless someone like KCP comes and says, Hey, I feel like I can make more money next summer.
00:16:46
If I'm a starter somewhere and Team X is willing to make me a starter, Can you trade me here? Yeah, that's a difference.
00:16:52
But I don't know if there's anybody in particular that I see them packaging up in trading.
00:16:57
Maybe a Quinn cook may be a Troy Daniels.
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Something like that.
00:17:00
Maybe somehow combined salaries there to make it work.
00:17:02
But ultimately, I think the Lakers were gonna have a tough time on the trade market, especially because they don't have any picks.
00:17:08
They can really throw in there, all given away.
00:17:10
Plus, the Stepien roll presents prevents them from trading this year's first rounder.
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So it's gonna be tough sledding on the trade market.
00:17:16
But Rob Blake has been pretty crafty with this kind of stuff.
00:17:19
So I mean, never say never, right? Yeah, I know. You're right.
00:17:23
I mean, I'm looking at guys, even like Marcus Morris or something from the Knicks.
00:17:25
And the next thing to have their own, perhaps a tremendous You'd be perfect, right? You don't know.
00:17:29
He has the capability of coming in and scoring 12 14 points a game off the bench.
00:17:32
Hard nosed guy as well.
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Plays good defense and worked hard and all that, but, um, yeah, I'm with you, man.
00:17:37
I mean, I just think that they're hamstrung by the situation.
00:17:39
The 80 trade obviously was well worth it Doesn't matter what you have to give up to get him, you have to get him.
00:17:43
But I I agree with you.
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I mean, I think they're gonna be looking at bio market cheap older veterans who get who get bought out, traded and waved and whatever how they how they do it.
00:17:51
I think that's how it's gonna That's how they're gonna be able to improve their bench because they're just limited with what they have that even.
00:17:57
I mean, you give you give up the second round pick, second round pick and get you Marcus Morris.
00:18:00
You know what I mean? So they're gonna have to figure out ways to get creative in order to bring in someone that's actually gonna enhance the bench rather than just kind of it stinks.
00:18:08
That is Quote.
00:18:09
Let me ask you this, Do you put Kyle Kuzma out there on the market? That's good question, man.
00:18:14
Um, I if you're getting something of value back in terms of scoring, and he's continued to struggle to reach the potential that we all think he has, I you haven't moved at that.
00:18:26
And I said, You know, it brings you another score of consistent score with the system that you run? Yeah, you'd have to look at it.
00:18:31
What about you? Yeah, I mean, he's not off.
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He's not untouchable or anything like that.
00:18:36
Um, I don't think so, anyway.
00:18:38
But in terms of value, you know what? He's selling low on Cosmo.
00:18:44
If you traded him right now, wouldn't you? I mean, look, he's been battling injuries.
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He's been in and out of the lineup when he has been in there.
00:18:49
He hasn't been consistent, and part of that is probably injury related.
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So it's not like he's been tearing it up right now.
00:18:55
And some team is gonna call you up and be like, Hey, look, Kyle Kuzma, this is a future star.
00:19:01
Why don't you take our aging veteran who's a really good player and we'll take Cosma and we could help us out of the future because we're kind of rebuilding, You know? I'm trying to think of top my head, somebody that would be like that, Obviously, like Utah start moving like a Mike Conley template like Kevin love.
00:19:15
Obviously, the salaries don't match their those just saying those types of players, somebody like that.
00:19:22
Then maybe, but I don't see teams making that kind of offer unless the Lakers were taken on some bad salary somehow or something like that, because Cruz was not lighting it up.
00:19:30
So if your plan is if it's even a thought in your head to move, Kuzma is now even the time to do it.
00:19:36
Given that you're probably not gonna get the return that you want.
00:19:39
No, you're right.
00:19:40
And that's what I was saying about the salaries of everyone who's makes about two million a year, somebody at 1.
00:19:43
9 or something.
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But I believe it is a salary.
00:19:46
So you're gonna be a hard time figuring that out and you hit the nail on the head man there he's been playing crappy.
00:19:51
What's his average? And I think he's only putting up 70 points a game or something like that would forget what it was, but over the last few, But again, I'm looking at it like if you get somebody who has the skill set that you feel fits your system and we'll help you score more off the bench on a consistent basis, then yes, you would have to look at it. But you're right.
00:20:07
I mean, what do you get for clues at this point.
00:20:08
You know, you're not gonna You're not gonna get a guy straight up like Kevin Love, regardless of the salaries.
00:20:13
You know what I mean? So it just depends on what you get.
00:20:15
And like you said, there's only two untouchables on this team.
00:20:18
Anthony Davis and LeBron James.
00:20:19
Everybody else, you're open for business.
00:20:21
Yeah, And look, that's I don't think they moved.
00:20:23
Dwight Howard. I don't think you move Javale McGee.
00:20:25
I don't think they're gonna They're gonna do that.
00:20:26
Those guys that that's there.
00:20:27
They're two headed monster at center.
00:20:29
In fact, what we settle on there it was.
00:20:32
Oh, yeah, You're white.
00:20:35
It was Dwight the coward.
00:20:36
That was what we wear.
00:20:38
White make Howard that are combo center that eats up a lot of the minutes there in the middle of it.
00:20:42
I don't think you're trading in there.
00:20:43
One of them, Cow Koosman is at 11.
00:20:46
6 per game, 3.
00:20:47
4 rebounds, 0.
00:20:49
9 a 6.
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4 blocks.
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He's only playing 23 minutes a game and started one game on the season has a PR per of 9.
00:20:56
85 which is extremely extremely low.
00:21:00
So again, I don't know that you traded that.
00:21:02
I guess maybe if a team calls you up, though, and says, Hey, we like his potential We understand he's been hurt.
00:21:07
We think better days or to come.
00:21:09
You have to listen, but I don't know if I see.
00:21:13
And that's the name that I see the most in our chance.
00:21:15
That's the name I see popping up online is what can the Lakers get for Kuzma? I just don't think it's a whole lot right now.
00:21:22
No, I I agree with you, man.
00:21:23
I just don't like the way he's playing and the way the numbers match up in terms of salary and for equal value.
00:21:29
It would be tough to have to get someone back, maybe get someone who is a similar player to cruise.
00:21:34
But again, we all look at him and say and we did this a lot last season and he had his struggles and we did it coming into this season, especially when Boogie went down with that injury.
00:21:42
We said Kyle Kuzma is hugely important to this team.
00:21:45
He's 1/3 option on the floor.
00:21:46
You know what I've been in terms of scoring behind 80 and LeBron and he's just hasn't been living up to it.
00:21:50
And we'll give him the benefit of the doubt that obviously because he has had something right with that ankle and it's been bothering him and he was sick there for a while, too.
00:21:57
So let's give it a month, you know, get into January mid January late January.
00:22:01
If you have an option to pick up somebody like I said that can improve your team, you do it.
00:22:05
If not, you're hoping crucible bills the potential and fulfill the expectations.
00:22:09
Everyone has a bit.
00:22:10
Yeah, and I think that potential is still there. That's not gone.
00:22:13
Just he's been hurt.
00:22:14
He got four Kaku asthma, right? Like he gets the stress reaction.
00:22:18
Then he turned his ankle.
00:22:19
He gets poked in the eye.
00:22:20
It's like Kyle Kuzma just just can't seem to get healthy this season.
00:22:23
Hopefully he can and then he could turn things around.
00:22:26
I think that he can't be very good.
00:22:27
You know, the one guy that I guess if I were to pick anybody, that is maybe somewhat realistic, as in terms of a target that I would like to see the Lakers pick up and and not off.
00:22:37
And I'm talking about via trade.
00:22:39
You'll be Robert Covington.
00:22:41
That though, Yeah, that would be Mike.
00:22:42
I think he would be the perfect fit. He can play defense.
00:22:45
He could defend multiple positions, hit those outside shots.
00:22:47
Thank you would be a great guy to go for, but he's not coming cheap or anything like that.
00:22:50
But that would be at least somewhere with within the realm of reality.
00:22:55
To get him would be absolutely tremendous.
00:22:57
And I would love to see it.
00:22:58
And I have no idea what you can put together that would convince the Worcester to part with them.
00:23:03
Yeah, then you know what I think that's that's a good way to look at it, too, because you're gonna have some guys out there in the league who are playing below expectations, like Kyle Kuzma, who might look at it and say, We need a change of scenery and the teams like you know what? Let's just look these guys around to see what happens, and when you come to play on a team like the Lakers and the Laker, so you're gonna get the player if it's coming from a team like Minnesota is gonna be that much more amped up to be here and you're playing around guys, it's a great team.
00:23:25
Let's be honest.
00:23:26
I mean, right now 24 3 you can't argue with the results.
00:23:28
They're they're a great team right now with with what they're doing.
00:23:30
And so when team, when players come from a struggling situation to a good one, there level will just enhance anyway.
00:23:35
So we're hoping we see that with Cruz.
00:23:36
But if not, yeah, the Lakers could get creative and try and bring someone else.
00:23:40
And I just think as the roster is constructed, going to be tough to go, the trade wrote.
00:23:43
Unless the bio it's gonna be your best option. Yeah.
00:23:46
Um, what about the guards? It does feel like the Lakers have too many guards on the roster.
00:23:49
Do you park it, package up some of them and send some of them out like a queen Coca? Troy Daniels. Players like that.
00:23:55
Do you try to get anything for them? Even if it's just a reserve swingman, would you make a move like that? Yeah.
00:24:01
I mean, if they're not like I said, I mean, those two have been Let's be honest, it's been the worst of the Lakers right on the roster.
00:24:06
This use an old broad like they've had the least amount of ups with the most amount of down.
00:24:10
You know what I mean? Between Queen couldn't cook and Troy Daniels.
00:24:13
So, um, if you're flipping them to even get a future asset like a second round pick or you're getting some salary room where you have a little bit of wiggle that you can wiggle room that if you make a trade, you could you could bring in another guy who makes a little bit more than the other player trading.
00:24:25
Sure, you gotta look into it, because what else? What do they bring their just sitting on the patch of this point? You know what a view, right? Yeah.
00:24:30
If there's something out there that makes sense, then uh, then I think you go in and look at that because if they're like you're saying, if they're not doing anything for you, then maybe something comes along.
00:24:39
But of course, probably nobody's gonna be gonna be all that interested in trading for those guys in there and be on your order.
00:24:45
Yeah, Alright, let's go straight into our comments here because people are throwing all kinds of stuff out.
00:24:51
Eric Shampoo.
00:24:52
Pick up Julius Randle.
00:24:54
I don't think you mention our salaries to get him, but I'd be I'd be up for it if if you could, but I don't think you can.
00:25:02
Well, there's a ton of players out there. We wish they could get.
00:25:04
Like Julius Randle would be great, but yeah, they get a name that's coming out.
00:25:08
Is Baudone Bogdanovich okay? I mean, yeah, if you can get him, but I don't think so.
00:25:15
I don't think that's gonna be gonna be possible.
00:25:17
Uh, Dragons fears from YouTube.
00:25:20
Says Trevor.
00:25:21
How about giving Costa's some minutes versus the Pacers just to see? I mean, you gotta testament some point, right? So do you throw him out there just to see what you've got out of him? Or do you try to be selective about when you do that? The Lakers know exactly what they got with Costas.
00:25:35
They practice, they see him.
00:25:36
They see the tapes.
00:25:37
Really misses brother.
00:25:39
They have? Yeah, that's about all the good part right now.
00:25:42
Uh, the only way I see cost is getting off the bench is if it's a 20 point game and it's a blow and he's getting some minutes.
00:25:48
I I just think that if they if they trusted what they saw in him when we saw this before the season was active, elevated, nor Val over KCP Well, we saw how that turned out, right? You know what I mean? So I think they just gotta wait that out.
00:25:58
And if you get some minutes and some garbage minutes sometimes, then you then you'll get to see what you have.
00:26:02
But the Lakers know exactly what he is.
00:26:03
Good to see. A practice? Yeah.
00:26:05
I mean, they do.
00:26:06
They've got a good idea.
00:26:07
And right now, you're not going to force anybody in there anything like that.
00:26:09
You're just gonna go with guys who are winning games for you? Look, if it's a blowout, if it's a blowout win against the Pacers, Yeah, right or a blowout loss, then you can toss him in because they're not gonna impact the game, right? That's where you get those guys minutes in close games where everyone's probably gonna matter, and especially when you're going to be in a tight race in the Western Conference at the top of the top table there.
00:26:30
Uh, yeah.
00:26:31
I don't think that you throw these guys out there at this point.
00:26:34
No, just you don't mess with a good thing that 24 3 they're just going on a long, massive winning streaks when they lose a game.
00:26:39
Just don't You don't mess with this stuff right now and you're mentioning the cushion like they're four and 1/2 games up on the Clippers right now.
00:26:45
I believe the Lakers game in hand tubes.
00:26:47
If they win that one Europe five games already, right? You know what I mean? That's that's that's gonna be a lot for the Clippers to be, will do to be able to catch up, but and if you look at it after the All Star break where the Clippers are, I feel like we'll get on a bit of it more of a role, and the Lakers might slip a little bit because their schedule is gonna be a little bit tougher after that.
00:27:04
You have that Lee win and you talked about this.
00:27:06
We talked a lot about it through text right is the load management you want.
00:27:10
If they do need a night off for and the guys have little nicks and bruises and our little soreness in their knee or whatever it is, you don't have to risk him every single night.
00:27:17
So it's great that they're winning these games, and right now you just don't mess with it, right? Yep, Yeah, I agree.
00:27:21
If it's not broke, you don't fix it.
00:27:23
Yeah, A lot of people are asking about eighties ankle late guys, we don't know at this point, we don't know exactly what's going on.
00:27:28
We know that.
00:27:29
Obviously, he tweaked it a little bit.
00:27:30
We know with all seven, he stayed in the game and finished it.
00:27:32
If it was really, really bad, he probably comes out of the game, right? But he stayed in the game.
00:27:37
He finished it.
00:27:38
The big question is tomorrow, right? What happens sometimes they can swell up overnight and then we'll see where we go from here.
00:27:44
But as of right now, I'd say it's a good sign that he stayed in the game.
00:27:48
But again, it all depends on how it looks tomorrow.
00:27:50
It's not so much today that I'm worried about.
00:27:53
The Lakers will probably say, Oh, he slightly turned his ankle or whatever, but it's tomorrow.
00:27:58
That's really gonna tell us something on that? Uh, yeah, I did.
00:28:00
I did see a tweet about that.
00:28:02
I forget a apology that forgetting who tweeted it.
00:28:04
But Vogel, um, did say that 80 said he was good to go in the huddle there in the fourth quarter.
00:28:09
So he said he was okay.
00:28:10
It's a little bit sore, but you it's fine.
00:28:12
Okay, so that's that's good to go.
00:28:14
Oh, good to know.
00:28:15
And obviously LeBron James of the elbow, We don't worry about that.
00:28:18
Yeah, let's dig into some more questions here.
00:28:20
So we've got Gabriel Ramos from Facebook.
00:28:23
Why doesn't queen quick cook play more minutes, huh? Well, because other guys that are in the simple answer is because other guys are better than him right now.
00:28:33
Yeah, and this is not good.
00:28:34
And, you know, I was in rationally excited.
00:28:36
I was the guy that was irrationally excited about what we're coming to the Lakers in the off season.
00:28:41
Just hasn't quite worked out The three point shooting hasn't been what we hoped it would be his pick and roll ability hasn't been quite as good.
00:28:48
Everything's been a little bit lower than what I thought it was going to be with Quinn Cook in terms of his abilities, across the board, defensively, ball handling, shooting everything.
00:28:57
It's just been one notch down, and I think he is a better player than what we've seen.
00:29:01
But the Lakers don't have time to let him figure it out, especially when you've got other guys who are playing better.
00:29:05
And if Rondo is hitting threes, then Rondo's the better player.
00:29:10
Well, that's that's the biggest thing then, like like you're mentioning, Um, you know, it's not like he's not getting play.
00:29:15
He's not gonna run because he's injured or anything like that.
00:29:17
He's not gonna run. He's not playing well.
00:29:19
And when he's out there, he hasn't been noticeable.
00:29:21
He's he's like Troy Daniels, where he had a couple of nice games.
00:29:23
You're like, OK, this guy can shoot and then you see him play the next five games and he doesn't do anything, so he hasn't really earned his stripes, earned his minutes, and once Rondo's come back, let's be honest.
00:29:32
Nobody expected Ronda to hit the three of the clip that he's it.
00:29:34
No, we thought Quinn Cook would be able to do that.
00:29:36
Yeah, So Rondo doing that better for you and he's just a better point guard.
00:29:39
Terms of setting things up there Both have been.
00:29:41
Like I said, they're both a bit of turnstiles defensively, so that's kind of a watch.
00:29:45
So, to me, Rondo's bringing more.
00:29:46
So Rhonda's getting a minute.
00:29:47
Yeah, that's really what it comes down to.
00:29:49
I do think that you want to keep him involved.
00:29:51
And so hopefully, hopefully they'll be able to get him some minutes here and there, because who knows, at some point, you could need him.
00:29:56
Maybe you need somebody who can come in to hit a three or something like that, and he could provide that for you.
00:30:00
But for right now, he's out of the lineup.
00:30:03
That's just it is about this.
00:30:04
Um uh, Ricardo.
00:30:06
Bernard says the Lakers are struggling to be bad teams.
00:30:09
How about when they play the Bucks or the Clippers again? We kind of talked about that.
00:30:14
Look, it's the Lakers playing to This isn't it's not like you look at this game and go okay.
00:30:18
This is what the Lakers are.
00:30:20
They're not that good.
00:30:21
They're going to struggle to be teams like the Hawks.
00:30:23
Clearly, they're going to get just absolutely blown out by the Clippers by the Bucks by the Nuggets, by by any of the decent teams.
00:30:30
Right? That's what you're gonna say.
00:30:31
No, this gate, this is one game where they play down from level their competition.
00:30:36
This is not an indication of how good they are as a basketball team.
00:30:40
Yeah, I I agree with you, but I don't think it has anything to do with the fact that, oh, this is just a little later, the Hawks played a decent game.
00:30:46
The Lakers played terrible in a Laker.
00:30:48
Still one, and we haven't seen them like I said, other than maybe the first night, where things went a little bit wrong for the Lakers in terms of playing against obviously a team like the Clippers.
00:30:56
But since that they literally rose to the occasion almost every single time they played a winning team.
00:31:01
So it's not like they're just there They are.
00:31:02
They're feasting on teams.
00:31:03
They're supposed to be absolutely right.
00:31:05
You know what I mean.
00:31:06
They haven't lost to a team that's under 500 but at the same time when they're playing, go seems like that win in Utah.
00:31:11
I know my probably wasn't playing.
00:31:12
That was impressive, like they came out and blew the doors off them after a reasonably tight game against Denver Tomb.
00:31:16
So they've answered the call every single time.
00:31:19
So I mean that Thursday game.
00:31:20
It should be a good one.
00:31:21
And you know what? If the if the Lakers do get blown out, I don't like the fact that narrative's gonna be like, Oh, they haven't played anyone. Look what happened.
00:31:27
They've lost it for any records.
00:31:29
No, it's the end of a five game road trip against a team that is that is hot.
00:31:32
You know what I mean? It running like the Bucks are right there with the Lakers in terms of the record as well.
00:31:36
So to me, you want to see them play really well.
00:31:38
But if they have a stake in this week, that might be it, because it's the end of like I said at the end of a five game road trip. Sure, yeah, agreed.
00:31:44
That could be a tough thing to deal with just in terms of mentally, That's a hard thing to focus more on, and you're look, one of the things to is people look back on games and they say, Oh, look, see the Lakers haven't beat anybody, but I think back to like that that came against the Suns.
00:31:57
The sun's good that the sons of Blow 500 now, But at the time, they weren't at the time the sons were surging and they were playing great basketball.
00:32:04
That was a battle to me.
00:32:06
That was a good win.
00:32:08
That wasn't a win over some crappy sub 500 team or anything like that.
00:32:11
They've had some really good Goodwin.
00:32:14
So yeah, look, I like I like what we've seen for the Lakers so far, and I'm not taking this game as an indication of who they are.
00:32:20
I think they will step it up.
00:32:21
Maybe you see something go awry against the Bucks because it is that trap game, last game of road trip.
00:32:26
But again, I'd like to see the Lakers step up and focus in those games for sure.
00:32:30
Men, um, Roman rays from YouTube says teams bring their best against the Lakers, and he said it in all caps, so we know he's serious here. Hey.
00:32:37
Hey. Says chill.
00:32:38
Yeah.
00:32:39
Look, the Lakers were gonna get every is best shot.
00:32:40
We've talked about that.
00:32:41
Uh, hey, here's a great user named Cat Vomit from YouTube, says Doug McDermott.
00:32:49
And Gigi is all we need yet, like a Doug McDermott type shooter.
00:32:52
Yeah, it certainly go go with that.
00:32:57
Can I say something? You know, it's funny, I think coming into coming into this game, I don't remember exactly at the top of my head.
00:33:01
Now let me talk about the fact Lakers need shooting.
00:33:03
I think they're in the top five and three point percentage overall in the league.
00:33:06
So when they're when they're when they're bad like they were today, we'll start talking about it.
00:33:10
But overall, they've been pretty **** good at hitting three.
00:33:12
So, and I believe they were third or fourth the last time I checked going into that going into their previous game wrongly, they were middle of the pack in terms of Oh, no, you are right.
00:33:22
They were middle thatjust, lest I had looked Oh, see, they were five.
00:33:28
They were five on the external screen from NBC dot com.
00:33:31
But this game has knocked them down there now.
00:33:33
12. Yeah, yeah, of course.
00:33:35
You should fight for 30 years to give you an idea.
00:33:37
The difference between five and 12 is 120.8%.
00:33:43
Okay, so that's gonna That's gonna change all the time.
00:33:45
Yeah.
00:33:46
Yeah.
00:33:47
Okay, let's get a shift around a lot.
00:33:48
But yes.
00:33:49
Yeah, they have been a little bit better than what you would think.
00:33:50
Shooting from three.
00:33:51
Which, uh, I mean, this season's a 35% is typically league average.
00:33:54
Or so they're 36.1%.
00:33:57
Pretty good. Yes, totally.
00:33:58
Yeah.
00:33:59
Randomly is the Detroit Pistons at 38.8%.
00:34:02
And when we could see that shooting doesn't make that much of a difference for the Pistons.
00:34:05
Also stink is like, Hey, here's a name coming in here.
00:34:08
Emerson Del Duca from Facebook. Trevor Arreaza.
00:34:12
That's why are the King's gonna give him up, though at this point, they're in a playoff race.
00:34:18
As long as he doesn't tell them he's going to the Lakers.
00:34:21
Maia, maybe.
00:34:23
Yeah, If they know he's going to the Lakers, they won't release him just out of spite.
00:34:27
Well, I mean, I feel like the Kings have been desperate just to get in the playoffs last couple of seasons.
00:34:31
That's why they spent some money over over the summer time to bring them in as well.
00:34:34
So I don't know if they'll give him up at this point, though.
00:34:37
I mean, he's only playing you still playing 22 minutes a night over there.
00:34:39
So, you know, and I just don't see him see him being released or bought out by by the Kings or anything like that anytime soon.
00:34:45
Yeah, I mean, it could happen, but I think they would rather use him as a trade ship or something like that.
00:34:49
Yeah.
00:34:50
Of Fabio, Qatar from Facebook says, Why hasn't Danny Green shot his threes consistently so far? I think the answer that this is, that's what Danny Green kind of does.
00:34:58
He's not a super consistent but overall over the long haul.
00:35:02
He's pretty good.
00:35:04
Yeah, he shoot, and I'm looking at this that he's 37% for the season again, above average right there, So I mean, he's been he's been one guy.
00:35:10
Don't say I'm disappointed in Danny Green because I'm not. I think he's been.
00:35:14
I think he's been as as advertised, but I would like to see him hit shots more consistently.
00:35:18
You said that That's kind of been his career trajectory, where sometimes you will feel it will be hot.
00:35:22
He'll hit 50% of his threes for a couple of weeks and then we'll drop off.
00:35:26
But for me, I don't want again.
00:35:27
I don't want to have been disappointed.
00:35:28
I like his game.
00:35:29
I like what he brings the team, especially in terms of his A team defender.
00:35:32
But I would like to see him hit a couple of more consistently hit a couple of shots in game at least cause he's shooting 45 tonight, right? Yeah, and you know what the issue with that is? And this is why this was my one concern.
00:35:42
Was signing Danny Green over the summer? Was that, you know, lookie.
00:35:45
He shot 46% from three last year.
00:35:47
Everybody knows that, said okay, he's a great three point shooter, But the season before that with Spurs, he was down around like 36 37% which is where he's at now in the difference between 36 and 46% is massive.
00:36:00
It's huge when it comes to dating greens value on the floor.
00:36:04
So I do think he's a better three point shooter than what we've seen so far.
00:36:07
But it does concern me a little bit that he's down around that number because that's kind of where he was when he was with the Spurs.
00:36:14
When the spring.
00:36:15
That's part of the reason why this bird's just kind of said Okay, we'll throw Danny Green in that with this with this guy Leonard Trade and send him to Toronto not knowing that they were giving Toronto the piece that they really needed in order to combine with Kawai and give themselves a championship.
00:36:27
But But he stepped it up, so I do hope that he does turn things around.
00:36:31
Yes, I think he is performing a little bit below expectations.
00:36:34
I was hoping he would at least dropped, you know, 41% or something like that, but it's still a lot of time to write that.
00:36:41
Oh yeah, that's what I like.
00:36:42
Look, we're nitpicking on again.
00:36:43
We're nitpicking of things for a team that's 24 3 exactly, which is kind of what we what we have to do with this point.
00:36:52
As far as the month of December goes, he's at just 30% from three for the month of December.
00:36:58
So that's a little bit of recency bias.
00:37:00
Coming into play here is 38% for the month of November, and then October he shot 50% from three.
00:37:05
So that's that's part of it.
00:37:07
Here is, he has definitely slowed down.
00:37:09
So over the last few weeks, you've been seeing a lot of Mrs from Danny Green, which is an indication of how he's done all season.
00:37:15
Yeah, yeah, you're right.
00:37:16
But I mean again, you want to see that you want to see that start to turn around and get better as you get in later into the season.
00:37:20
Because that's what that's what.
00:37:21
The regular season for a team with championship aspirations.
00:37:24
It's for you want to be clicking on all cylinders come time for April May.
00:37:27
So hopefully this is just a down run for him, and he's able to turn things around well, as we get later into the schedule.
00:37:32
Yeah, yep.
00:37:33
Um, let's see the Lakers free throw shooting will be a concern in the playoffs.
00:37:39
Do you agree? Is that gonna be a problem? Um, yeah.
00:37:44
I mean, yes and no one.
00:37:45
Last year we used to complain about how bad, how bad the free throw shooting was 27 daily in free throw percentage.
00:37:50
Yeah, they got to get going.
00:37:51
And we were talking about at the at the end of the game there, too.
00:37:53
I'm like, Who's your? You got to go to a D.
00:37:55
Is your best your best resource shooters? 86% shooter.
00:37:57
So he should be the guy getting the inbounds and getting intentionally fellow. I know that one.
00:38:01
They inbounded the ball on.
00:38:02
LeBron was kind of, you know what the other end of the court when you went to the line there, But yeah, they need.
00:38:06
They need to have guys either step up consistently, hit them or find ways to get 80 open so that he's the guy go into a line at the end of game.
00:38:12
When it's concept, I think I would be more concerned with the frequency of their free throw shooting than their actual percentage, because it's an issue.
00:38:19
But like how much of that is? Dwight is shooting free throws and JaVale McGee is shooting for them.
00:38:24
These are the guys that are taking them, Yeah, I mean, I think that's certainly part of a guys that are just terrible from line or taking a lot of them.
00:38:30
But the Lakers or 17th in free throws, attempted 17 for a team with A D and LeBron.
00:38:35
I feel like that number should be a lot higher, but who else do you have? It was a creator on the team, though.
00:38:40
That's the thing with 80 and LeBron.
00:38:41
Those guys, like JaVale McGee and Dwight Howard are getting free throws off of offensive rebounds or dishes from LeBron James, right? Nobody else so they don't really have Guys who penetrated are able to create contact.
00:38:51
So I again, that's that's another thing.
00:38:53
We can look at that eventually.
00:38:55
If they do want to add a piece, get somebody else was able to create offense and we talked about that.
00:38:59
So a guy like Kyle Kuzma and I've said this a lot this season.
00:39:02
He's better when he's going to the hoop and creating, contacted and getting layups and doing that.
00:39:07
So yeah, you're right.
00:39:08
They should be getting more free throws but beyond LeBron and 80 which one of those guys on the roster is like, Yeah, that guy's gonna break his guy down off the dribble and get to the river.
00:39:15
Most of these guys are more spot up shooters like a CPS more.
00:39:18
He did drive tonight and sort of dating Green.
00:39:20
But most of these guys were spot up shooters, and there's a reason why they are.
00:39:23
I mean, that's what the Lakers targeted spot of understanding on drawn line.
00:39:26
Frito. So good point.
00:39:28
Let's see on the James Louise Via Riel said.
00:39:33
On the positive side, L.
00:39:34
A.
00:39:35
Is 24 3 and Koosman still hasn't found his rule yet.
00:39:37
I like you, James.
00:39:38
Get the glass is half full.
00:39:40
Take yeah, 24 3 And Kyle Kuzma hasn't really got going.
00:39:44
It hasn't even really been playing over recent weeks.
00:39:47
Imagine if he does like, what does that do to the same ceiling? If Cosmo does figure it out? If they let's say they stick with him, you don't move him and he starts clicking.
00:39:54
He starts giving you 15 to 17 points tonight. Consistently.
00:39:58
What does that do for the Lakers? Well, I think that makes him the undoubtedly the best team in the league right now.
00:40:04
Like I said, I mean, people are gonna say the bucks, and I can't argue with that.
00:40:06
With the Bucks won 18 straight or something like that.
00:40:08
They look like a juggernaut in the East.
00:40:10
And that conference is going through Milwaukee.
00:40:12
You know what I mean? I don't get it twisted.
00:40:13
We all sitting here saying that Oh, the Sixers, they're gonna improve.
00:40:16
Like, no, Milwaukee is the king in the East.
00:40:18
I'm looking at the Lakers.
00:40:19
They already have separated themselves from teams like the Clippers a little bit.
00:40:22
And we talked about that in the standings.
00:40:24
And And if Kyle Cruise and I can bring that, it's not that you need him to bring it once every two or three games, you need him to be Ah Lou Williams type guy that is scoring double digits every single game.
00:40:33
He's out there.
00:40:34
And if he does that hoof man, that's gonna be tough having the Lakers.
00:40:37
How much higher can you go from 24? Three things.
00:40:40
We're talking about that part.
00:40:41
Yeah, but here's the thing.
00:40:43
Like, he's not the Lou Williams type of guy where you throw him the ball and he's just gonna get buckets.
00:40:47
He's gotta get it off of off the ball actions.
00:40:50
And so that's something that I think it's going to take even more time to click because the Lakers have not only gotta gotta figure out ways to get Koosman the ball in positions where he can score, and he has got to get himself right and get comfortable doing that.
00:41:01
So those two things combined are going to be, Ah, challenge.
00:41:05
So we'll see.
00:41:06
Like, Look, you stick to Williams on the Hawks.
00:41:08
He's gonna get buckets.
00:41:09
You put Lou Williams on the Knicks, he gets buckets.
00:41:11
You put him on the Clippers.
00:41:12
He gets, but it doesn't matter where he is.
00:41:14
Right like that matters to a degree, but he's going to score no matter what.
00:41:17
Cosmo, I think, has got to figure out his role and all of that.
00:41:20
But if he does like we're saying here and like James is saying man skies, good luck, good luck stopping.
00:41:27
That gets going, Yeah, let's save on, Odom says from YouTube's.
00:41:33
His next two games are with teams above 500.
00:41:35
Lakers should get at least one of those because Indiana isn't as tough as the heat or the Mavericks.
00:41:39
Yeah, The heat were just a good win the other night.
00:41:42
Do you see it? Okay, so the next two games on the road, Pacers Bucks? What? Are you happy with it? Do they have to go two for two? One for two over two.
00:41:51
What do you think? I think we're all in the same boat here When I say that, we're expecting them to win every single night, so I mean, you know, I mean, I expected I'm gonna go to a No, because they're a great team again.
00:42:04
Could I see them losing that game in Milwaukee and Indies? No joke, either.
00:42:07
They're 18 to 9. They're very deep team.
00:42:09
Similar to the heat.
00:42:10
No, they don't have.
00:42:11
Ah, Jimmy Butler is an All star, not a superstar.
00:42:14
You know, that'll change hope.
00:42:15
Victor Oladipo comes back fully healthy, but Malcolm Brogdon is leading the way for Indiana.
00:42:19
And they're not a team that has one guy that that's a centerpiece of that team.
00:42:23
So, to me, Indy should definitely be a win.
00:42:25
But that Milwaukee game is gonna be it's gonna be tough on Thursday.
00:42:28
Yeah, it absolutely is.
00:42:29
But I think they're also gonna be getting up for that.
00:42:31
I'm almost a little bit worried about the Indiana game because I think they're gonna be looking ahead to the Milwaukee game.
00:42:36
Yeah, I think that happened.
00:42:38
Well, we said that we said that they were a bad today because they were looking ahead to the next games by looking like three games ahead to the morning.
00:42:44
They were looking ahead of the other day.
00:42:46
Uh, Eric Gagne, peu from Facebook, said ever since he wears Pumas, he's talking about Kyle Kuzma.
00:42:52
He's in a slump. So is Danny Green.
00:42:54
Look, I need that I need the n b.
00:42:56
A jam voice isn't the shoes, the shoes? You might be a Is that what's happening here? It's the shoot.
00:43:02
Maybe Koosman just needs to switch to shoot.
00:43:03
I bet if you put on Kobe's, we'd see some Mamba mentality of Yeah, well, you know what? Why? Leonard's playing an 80 year old man's new new mountain shoes and he's lighting it up.
00:43:11
So you know what? It might be right there with the movement thing, but yeah, we need to get whatever they need to do to get Kyle Cruise my going, whether that shoes or he's wearing different spandex, we don't know.
00:43:21
But they gotta try everything to get that man rolling.
00:43:23
Because, like you said, once he gets going, this team is gonna be that much more unstoppable.
00:43:27
Yeah, very true.
00:43:28
Roman Rays from YouTube says.
00:43:30
If people are complaining this much now, I can't imagine how they act after a loss.
00:43:34
I don't think people are complaining too much.
00:43:37
It's just you always look for improvement, and to me, it's It's exciting because you think about how much they could improve on how much better it could be and their 24 3 right now.
00:43:44
So I don't look it as complaining.
00:43:46
I'm looking at Hey, imagine how good they're gonna be if they fix X, Y and Z, or if they had this kind of player.
00:43:51
If they do this so they do that a team is never a finished product.
00:43:54
I don't care how good they are.
00:43:56
I don't care how dominant the Warriors were with Kevin Durant and Clay Thompson and Curry and dream on Green.
00:44:02
Oh, that it's not a finished product.
00:44:04
You can always improve.
00:44:05
You can always get better.
00:44:07
And that's the way I'm looking at.
00:44:08
I'm not looking at as were complaining when they won 17 games in a season.
00:44:12
Then we're complaining, right? Because obviously, things are not going well.
00:44:16
Life is good right now for the Lakers.
00:44:18
This is not complaining.
00:44:19
This is talking.
00:44:20
This is just looking at ways that they could do even better.
00:44:24
Yeah, that's exactly I'm again.
00:44:26
I'm not judging this team based on how they play in Atlanta.
00:44:29
I said this a lot on the show.
00:44:30
Okay, You know what? You play down the level of competition, but you're still finding ways to win.
00:44:34
And you didn't see that with that This team last year right there.
00:44:37
They lost to the mix.
00:44:38
They lost to the calves.
00:44:40
They lost a lot of bad teams last season two.
00:44:41
And and right now, it's like that's not even gonna be an option.
00:44:44
But for us, we're looking at it.
00:44:45
Okay? You play a seven game series against the Milwaukee Bucks.
00:44:48
How can you be exposed when I'm looking at it like that? Okay.
00:44:51
Where? They where they can improve in terms of their championship aspirations.
00:44:54
Not the regular season aspiration.
00:44:56
Yeah, exactly.
00:44:57
And that's just it for this team.
00:44:58
Success is not going to be found in the regular season.
00:45:01
As exciting as this is, what matters is going to be the playoffs? Um, let's see.
00:45:06
Somebody mentions.
00:45:07
Dark kid from YouTube says it's because they're low top Pumas.
00:45:11
They don't have good support.
00:45:12
They need.
00:45:13
That's right.
00:45:14
That's right. Gotta You gotta switch it up there.
00:45:16
Let's see daily be, Kay said.
00:45:18
Well, it's the refs.
00:45:20
Hate the Lakers.
00:45:21
I'm not even ready to go down that rabbit hole.
00:45:23
No, that's no. That's wait.
00:45:25
What are we reaching for here on that? With what evidence do we have? The raps later look a bit rough calls, but every team gets some rough. Every team get.
00:45:33
It happens.
00:45:34
It happened 10 years ago with the Adam Hill said.
00:45:37
At what point will LeBron James or 80 taking game off 80 looks a little banged up.
00:45:41
Any news on Cosmos? So nothing on Koosman yet.
00:45:43
We're still just waiting.
00:45:44
We heard he was saying that his ankle is starting to feel a little bit better, okay, so hopefully he'll be ready to go sooner rather than later, but who knows? Nobody's really put a timetable on it.
00:45:52
But LeBron James, Anthony Davis load management taking game off here.
00:45:57
There is it time to start looking at that person? Well, let me know what you think.
00:46:00
Just don't give you my take that I'm bringing up the schedule here.
00:46:03
I just think right now with the way the team is playing and the fact that you're gaining your putting some distance between yourself and the rest of the conference on just the second Seaview everybody else that's in that, you know, three through 67 Like, mash up of teams that you have in the West that are gonna interchange Ah, lot throughout the year.
00:46:18
I just don't see it.
00:46:19
I don't I don't see a reason to do it at this point.
00:46:21
Maybe on the second night of a back to back and you get to game 45 50.
00:46:24
Why not? But right now, just don't mess with a good thing, man.
00:46:27
Everything is rolling right now and and let them be.
00:46:28
What about you? Yeah, I'm doing the same thing I'm saying.
00:46:31
Look, you just you keep rolling right now.
00:46:32
Maybe once the calendar turns to 2020 Then you can start looking at some specific games where they could shut one of them down, uh, and go that route.
00:46:40
But right now, given the schedule we've got coming up, I think you want to test this team.
00:46:43
There's so many new faces here, that air together.
00:46:46
I think you want them to jump into the fire against the Bucks against the Clippers.
00:46:50
Against they've got the Nuggets again and you're the Nuggets are better team.
00:46:53
I think that what we saw the other day out of them or the other week So you've got some tough opponents coming up.
00:46:58
And so I want to see the Lakers get thrown into the fire winner lose, because I think that experience is important, wants to get into the playoffs.
00:47:04
And then once you get into January and you started hitting some easier games that maybe you look at it kind of taking your foot off the gas a little bit and using some load management.
00:47:13
Yeah, Yeah, Good. 100% on that.
00:47:15
Okay. Uh, let's see.
00:47:19
Roel Valli.
00:47:20
Oh, Fernandez.
00:47:21
And I hope I did ok with that name.
00:47:23
Said hi, Trevor.
00:47:24
and Jess.
00:47:25
What teams scare you the most this season? And why? Good.
00:47:30
All right, let me get one team that scares me.
00:47:32
You know, free to admit this is the Clippers.
00:47:35
I think the Clippers are good team.
00:47:36
I think that their perimeter defense is really good.
00:47:38
And it's an interesting contrast with Lakers into your defense.
00:47:41
And I think their ability to shoot the three makes them a real big threat for the Lakers, especially if they attack the glass the way they did when the Lakers played them the first game of the season.
00:47:49
Because in that way they can kind of mitigate the Lakers size advantage, and if they could do that, they give themselves an advantage.
00:47:55
Plus, I hate watching good players go up against Patrick Beverley because I'm always worried about injury, so that would be my team.
00:48:01
But just what? What do you think? Uh, Clippers obviously agree on that, but to me it's Dallas.
00:48:06
They played the Lakers twice, is here, want to once in the into overtime once they put a pretty good beating on the Lakers hero that that Sunday and a true um, the reason why I'm saying that basketball, and it's old cliche basketball, simply.
00:48:17
It's a game of matchups, right? If you could match up, you can have a team that is.
00:48:20
You see this in the tournament, where it seems like Oh, that they should win by 20 that the line is minus 19 and 1/2 and this is a team that they only see on tape before.
00:48:28
But they just have the advantage in certain matchups in the way the Clippers play, which is spread the floor look.
00:48:33
Adoption to do his thing, take a crap load of threes.
00:48:36
I don't think they could beat the Lakers in a seven game series, but I think they could make it very, very interesting.
00:48:40
And you don't want to go into a Game seven against a team that can shoot 50 three's and and hit 25 minutes a night cause that'll be lights out at that point.
00:48:47
Yeah, I think what it comes down to for me with the Mavericks and you're absolutely right.
00:48:51
They could certainly look that you can live by the three.
00:48:54
You could die by the three.
00:48:55
They make enough, they can win a game.
00:48:56
Definitely they can win ball games they could even win a Siri's right if you make enough, but I could I break it down to this? I think.
00:49:03
Okay, that was one regular season game, If you're if you give Frank Vogel and Jason Kidd and Lionel Hollins and Phil Handy.
00:49:11
Who, by the way, those guys communicating tremendously with the defense.
00:49:15
They had a baby the other night against Miami, where they were awesome with their communication.
00:49:18
They got the stop.
00:49:19
The coaching staff helped get that stop.
00:49:21
Um, I think if you give those guys time to prepare and you let them break down what the Mavericks have done offensively and you give them time to come up with counters for that, I think the Lakers were gonna find ways to not shut down the Mavericks.
00:49:34
But at least stop a lot of the open looks that the Mavericks are getting and and make life a little bit more difficult on them.
00:49:39
So I would I would give the vote of confidence in the Lakers.
00:49:41
They're just because I think the coaching staff will be able to lock in on the Mavericks as opposed to just one game out of 82 where you kind of just go.
00:49:48
Okay, here's the scouting report.
00:49:49
Trying not to let don check, you know, hit the stepback three here, trying out toe.
00:49:53
Let poor Zynga's get open looks from here.
00:49:54
Things like that.
00:49:55
When they get a little more detailed, I think the Lakers will get a bigger advantage.
00:49:59
Oh, I think the liquor.
00:50:00
Like I said, I don't think the Lakers would be in the Lakers play.
00:50:03
And I think the Lakers would beat him in six games.
00:50:05
You know, five or six games in a playoff series, but that is just an interesting match up to me because you're right to be the number one.
00:50:10
The number one team they have to compete against, obviously in their own division and conference own city really is the Clippers, right? And the Clippers are are not unknown status now.
00:50:18
They're not a great matchup for the Lakers, and the Lakers are gonna have to find a way.
00:50:21
Eventually, they're gonna have to go through one of those teams.
00:50:24
The Clippers of the Mavericks, and and, yeah, I'd rather be the Mavericks in the Clippers.
00:50:27
But yes, I agree the Clippers are scary, but the Mavericks are the other team in the West that I look at and say, You know what? That you know, they could get the Lakers someone, but, I mean, even teams like Houston.
00:50:36
Yeah, James Harden could score 50 but they mean the Lakers in a seven game series in the East.
00:50:41
You got to say the bucks, right? Bucks? Yeah.
00:50:43
Yeah.
00:50:44
That's the only team that really scares me in the not too many six years at all.
00:50:47
They don't worry you.
00:50:48
No, the Boston No, no, no.
00:50:52
I don't think I don't think those teams can compete with the Lakers.
00:50:55
And I again I'm not looking at in a one game basis.
00:50:56
Like how you look at look at seven game series.
00:50:58
Yeah.
00:50:59
I mean, I don't think Boston's gonna be would be able to hang with with the Lakers in a seven game series.
00:51:02
Not to say they're gonna get swept.
00:51:04
They wouldn't.
00:51:05
It might win two or three games and I go to Game seven, but to me it's it's it's Milwaukee, the Clippers.
00:51:09
And then the next year down, I'd probably go with the members.
00:51:12
Yeah, and look, you've got Miami is second in the East right now.
00:51:15
and I'm not that worried about Miami.
00:51:17
No, I don't think I think out of all those teams that we talked about these, And by the way, we shouldn't just completely dismiss the Toronto Raptors, right? Yeah, Just the idea.
00:51:28
I know.
00:51:29
I told you guys from the West Coast of candidates l A guy supporting a New York team.
00:51:34
I was not cheering for them last year in the playoffs at all, but they don't have the superstars.
00:51:39
They're very good team.
00:51:40
They're gonna be They're gonna make the playoffs, being getting past the second round. Let's be honest.
00:51:43
All right, I'll go with you there.
00:51:44
I'm going to say that out of all those teams in the East No, the team that could get up, that next level is the 76 years. Yeah.
00:51:51
I think if there's anybody that could join the Milwaukee Bucks, I mean, not that they had done it yet.
00:51:55
It's not time to worry about them yet, but they could see the potential for them to do that. Yeah.
00:52:00
Yeah, I'm beat, and Simmons can figure that out.
00:52:02
They'll bill they'll, uh, they'll definitely be a contender.
00:52:04
But again, I mean, this just looks like we're on a collision course for Milwaukee versus an L A team.
00:52:09
We're hoping it's the Lakers, obviously in the final, but it looks like it's It's Milwaukee's time right now, all right, so let's finish with this.
00:52:15
Michael Callaway, from YouTube says that LeBron passed a Dwight, though.
00:52:19
Was that the play that I think I was the play of the season so far? What do you think that LeBron dribbling across the across the free throw line goes between his legs to Dwight, who just hangs, hangs in the air, throws down the hammer dunk? He actually did this dunk in warm ups with thinkers, were getting ready to play the Miami Heat.
00:52:35
He did that dunk in warm ups, and now he just pulled it off in a game.
00:52:38
Was that the best play of the season so far? Yeah, to me, it was I mean, I LeBron James has been human highlight reel to steal Dominique Wilkins nickname from that, I mean, this entire season he just making these crazy place.
00:52:49
But the court vision, the finish finish by Dwight adds, incredible.
00:52:53
When you when you finish with that emphasis and you just got home.
00:52:56
You know, you're throwing it down.
00:52:57
That always that always makes the past that much better.
00:52:59
So that was just a flawless play, The way it all went down. Yeah.
00:53:02
Look, I loved that Dwight attack that thing like there's a chance when you go in the basket that hard the way Dwight did that.
00:53:08
When you **** your arm back like that and you really go Not that I know from personal experience, by the way.
00:53:13
Okay.
00:53:14
But when you really go to the basket like that, like cases of you blowing it, the chances of you missing it go up right.
00:53:21
Like it was a chance that you don't elevate quite as much.
00:53:23
Do you think you're going to and you slam the ball off the back of the rim and it goes flying off, Then every laugh to you and everything, right? The chance of failure goes up.
00:53:29
But I love that Dwight didn't just go.
00:53:31
If you didn't go up like to hand dunk or anything like that, He didn't go up soft. He didn't go up.
00:53:36
Thank you. Okay. I'm gonna make sure I get the two points there.
00:53:38
He went up to steal souls, right? He went up that that was going to be on LeBron James Highlight reel when he finishes his career.
00:53:46
And I love that he did that.
00:53:47
He attacked that thing with aggression.
00:53:49
And that was like it was Ah, moment of throwback.
00:53:51
Dwight, it was Superman.
00:53:52
Dwight, Uh, for those reasons, I've got it as the play of the season so far.
00:53:58
I'm with you on that, man.
00:53:59
That was That was I let out that way.
00:54:01
Try and be quiet at the end of the game because people who don't know we always have a little bit of a leg between us.
00:54:06
So I'm gonna go ahead because I'm on the spectrum feed, and you're basically watching a week passed.
00:54:10
So, um, I'm always trying to put that my reaction that just sit there.
00:54:14
Oh, you know what I mean? Like right away.
00:54:15
That was that.
00:54:16
That play did you do So we're watching.
00:54:18
At the same time, you have been a **** what I missed.
00:54:20
But I'm glad my brother on the phone or connected with me just at that point.
00:54:23
Yeah, that's right.
00:54:24
Because I would have you would have totally ruined it for me.
00:54:26
but, uh, but I couldn't have blamed you.
00:54:28
Write on that play.
00:54:29
You had to react.
00:54:31
I had my three year old next to me, and it was the hardest thing not to.
00:54:35
Not to get too loud or crazy, because I certainly would have scared her 40 times.
00:54:41
Let it may be a swear word or something like that.
00:54:43
So be careful with that stuff.
00:54:46
Exactly.
00:54:47
All right, Jazz final thoughts before we get out here.
00:54:50
Uh, final thoughts, ugly game, ugly shooting, sloppy turnovers.
00:54:54
But the 24 3 So you take that.
00:54:56
You take that.
00:54:57
That's that's that's all it comes down to.
00:54:58
What about you? 24 3? You'll take it.
00:55:00
A win is a win.
00:55:01
We're excited now.
00:55:03
Things were gonna get tough.
00:55:04
Gonna be, ah, gonna be really interesting to see how they handle this stretch of games here.
00:55:08
When you've got teams like the Pacers, the Bucks, the Nuggets, the Clippers, we're gonna find out what they're made of.
00:55:13
So far, so good in a pretty good month of December and we'll see where things go from here.
00:55:17
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00:55:54
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