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now with.
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The surprising part was that he didn't want to be traded from the Orioles last year to go to Philadelphia, which is only a few miles up the road.
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And now we go to Korea.
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So it just shows you how Ah, life comes at you fast and the cir***stances change.
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Lastly, before we get to the break your own assessment, it's and the Mets came to some sort of agreement, restructured a contract based on what happened with Cess.
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Pit is we still don't know what happened to his ranch, but obviously he had a except some of the blame, because otherwise he could've fought any reduction that contract.
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So a couple of things on that.
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What do you make of this, which is somewhat unprecedented in major league baseball? And secondly, what do you think? It brings us faras attitude to a guy who at times has had a very strange disposition, you know, around the club, what does this spring when all of a sudden his salary is almost cut in half.
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If and when he shows up the camp well, you're not only with the cut in half this year, but it was cut in half last year.
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So I, uh I'm very shocked at that, because you don't give back money for, ah performance and you don't get no.
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This is what the major League Baseball players union fought for so that players don't have to give money back.
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That that that money that guaranteed.
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So it is.
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It is very surprising to see I'm looking at it a different way.
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I'm thinking that this makes this easier to trade, and I think with the crowded nous in the outfield don't know crowded credit.
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This is not a word.
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But I think with the outfielders that the Mets have, I think it makes successful easier to trade with that would do salary.
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It's under 10 million.
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Maybe Oakland.
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Take a flier on him and he goes back home.
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I've always thought that the Mets would would want him to be somewhere else, and now I think this makes it easier.
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I have a feeling he's getting traded this office again, as it was a clue, but you've got somebody who's missed not only one season but two seasons and has an injury history and has something there and then the world's gonna leak out maybe another month or two months, three months? What really happened last year? What's his value of building happy just to get rid of them, have take months to have somebody take off their hands.
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It's gonna be pennies on the dollar.
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I think it's not gonna be like louvers are.
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This is Cooper.
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Cooper has had more of a history of recent success, even with the time that he missed cess pit, It's like you said, Ah, year and 1/2 he missed.
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At the very least, the Mets did him no favors by pushing them to come back for that one Yankee game before he went out again two years ago.
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So I think just I think the relationship is strained enough that that the Mets would just want to cut ties and maybe get I see.
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I see a Francisco Rodriguez for Danny Herrera type trade happening, and I I hope not, because I'm still assessed for this, Stan, I think so was was a joy to watch and he was a very important cog in those two playoff teams.
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I think without him, then the playoff drought goes back to 2006.
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But I think what? The relationship is strained as it is, I think there's I would put better than even odds that the Mets trade him.
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I hope they don't Also, I am a big cess pits fan.
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I think he lengthens the lineup.
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I think protection for Alonso would be huge, and I think he could only add to what the Mets had going last year.
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So we'll talk more about it as we get closer to spring training.
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I was gonna get to that way, just a little foreshadowing.
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All right, so let's get right into this winter trade meetings, which were a lot more like the eighties and nineties after back to back years of nothing happening in the top players just hanging on the market.
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Free agents Kohl 3 23 124 million With the Yanks Strasburg 245 million re upping with the Nationals.
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Ren don't 245 million with the Angels have already cashed in this winter.
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Why do you think there was such a change in the way that ownership approach these meetings, as opposed to the last two years, where it was crickets, more players in the market? I mean, it was such a great year to be a creation and to be a top end guy because even though the Red Sox and the Cubs, which are two of our bigger market, really are participating in free agency of the big levels, Ah, lot of other teams are always helpful when the Yankees are, and even if there's whisperings with the Mets, that's really helpful.
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The Dodgers, you know, the Dodgers when they were bought by Guggenheim.
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Everyone kind of expected just a lot of money to get thrown at that time, and it really hasn't happened.
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There haven't been big creation expenditures with the Dodgers, but it sounds like they were kind of ready, and they were has been in and conversations of potential free.
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Just the Rangers, who have had a factor last couple of years but I've spent in the past, are ready to spend again and they have kind of put their hat in the ring and made a run it Anthony Rend own and made a run at Zack Wheeler.
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The Chicago White Sox have had a really difficult time the last couple of years trying to give away their money.
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Right there were in on Manny Machado.
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It sounds like they had the biggest offer for Zack Wheeler.
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The Nationals are always out there spending the Braves have money, and they're ready to spend.
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You know, it was frustrating when you're a fan of a team I was going to rebuild cause it's just notes Craig. It's dead quiet.
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There's not a lot going on, but even a couple of those teams, they're starting to come out of the show a little bit, so I don't see it as much.
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So the timing of this whole thing for this 53 agents has just been fantastic.
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When you can have multiple bidders in on your service is from big markets, but you're gonna do well with that being, said, J.
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D.
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Martinez didn't opt out and didn't opt out of his contract because he knew there was not going to be multiple suitors for his service is, and so the idea that it is a great market for everybody.
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But it wasn't necessarily position on depending on who you are and that he was God.
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It was not gonna be able to match his current contract, but the other guys were going really well to meet.
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One of the surprises of this whole season is that Scott Boris's gameplan always been to have his guys signed last.
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These guys are signing first this year.
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What do you think prompted the change in his game plan not to wait for everybody else to commence.
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We can squeeze every last dollar and have the mystery teams come in.
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Yeah, Tell you what I think.
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First of all, because a lot of teams were pretty vocal.
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We knew they were going to be in, so they weren't gonna be as many surprises.
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And he had so many pieces to work with you played it beautifully.
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I mean, just the idea of making sure that he got Strasbourg done first and that the Rangers, the Angels, the Dodgers and the Yankees were still available on Cole.
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And then we didn't bring up the Padres.
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The Padres spent the last couple of years, and they'd be willing to stand by.
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I think it's a matter of because he had so many guys because in your teams were really interested in were willing to put that best foot forward early on because they got aggressive early and especially, I think that the national signing Stephen Strasburg first was a big one for Gerrit Cole when he originally said very cold, he was gonna probably wait until January to sign.
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We had heard that only the beginning of the off season, but there's no reason to wait.
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I mean, I know that waiting game happen.
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The bonds are I mean, it's not fun for players to sit around unfunded to get into January or even near the beginning of spring training.
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And even though you know you're gonna get a contract somewhere to not get it done, you know it's so unsettling feeling.
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So it's better for the game.
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I don't know if Rob Bamford said anything about it, but it's certainly better for our fans.
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This has been a much better off season.
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Then years passed.
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Just having a much better idea of kind of warrior teams. They're going what they're doing.
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You can have your fan passed in the other idea that Mike was doctors, that they had already that matters.
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And so I think that teams and agents get together and trying to make it happen or a little bit earlier is nothing but good for the game. Interesting.
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You mentioned Boris A.
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J you're looking at.
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This guy's gonna have a $1,000,000,000 winter piece.
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You know, Miss Takis is also his.
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He still has Kaiko, you and Johannes and play as well on top of the 824 eyes.
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Yeah, I think he's, Ah, sipping margaritas someplace.
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All right, so let's get to the two pitches. Colin Strasburg.
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Huge paydays in terms.
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That's the other thing.
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Extended terms of pictures.
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So we go on and on about ****ytics and cost value.
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So if you d really deep take a deep dive into the numbers you find to this point in his career some of the pictures that Cole is most similar to.
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Chlorine Kubler, Brandon Webb, Stephen Strasburg, Lance Win, Teddy Higuera, Carlos Carrasco and Tanaka.
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Nice pictures, for sure.
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But any cold for me doesn't make the Yankees the instant 2020 world chance.
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A lot can happen to pictures over the course of that contract for me.
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I almost think that the Yankees spent that money so they don't have to face him three times in Siri's to get to the World Series.
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Do you think that money was spent wisely by the Yankees and you take a look at how you know the Rangers were able to get Kluver, who was a very similar picture with not giving up a tremendous amount of assets? Why do you think the Yankees went all in on Cole And he Is he the right guy for that amount of money in that term? Yeah.
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I mean, the money is obviously the biggest that we've ever seen.
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Whether not actually work at works out really depends on health.
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He can't win a World Series by himself, but he certainly is an X factor.
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And he can go up against anybody's face in game.
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Wanna gain five for Game four if you needed to.
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Oh, I think that's part of the reason why in the Yankees also have the issue of potential free agents in Tanaka packed and we'll see what happens with J.
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Happy had a vesting option so their rotation could get really really fast now.
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They could have went out and got guys on shorter term deals, and they could have went Dallas Kaiko Army, maybe Zack Wheeler.
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But again, it goes back to matching up in Game one.
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And do they really have that guy? And they didn't mean knock.
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It could be that guy.
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And he has that guy times, but not Erik Cole.
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I think when you start to look at the comparisons based on what you're talking about, the thing with Jericho you gotta remember is that he's only been this guy for two years.
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When he was in Pittsburgh was good, but he was a guy that you looked at it almost kind of like, Wheeler said.
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Members foreign.
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There is more in now.
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It could get a little more out of him like, you know, and especially number one overall pick.
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You look at him as a manual has good but not great.
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And can he do great and the actual street out a way to get that out of him, right? There's just been in repertory how you use your pitches and a lot of people are wondering, Can Wheeler make that thing kind of jump with the Phillies will see, but they're banking on the guy that has been the last two years.
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So if you were to take the last two years trying to compare, he really doesn't have any Quarterback Justin Verlander is probably pretty close to him, but he's also way younger and so we'll see.
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I mean, that's obviously a huge risk, but it's interesting when you go back and you track.
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I think we feel better about position, player contracts when we go big lack of health and things like that.
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But if you look at some of the biggest contracts and then look at the pictures and how successful the teams have been, especially you're talking about collecting rings.
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The pictures have been much better than the position players.
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It's kind of a fascinating experiment when you go down the line with guys like David Price and others compared to some of those position players and those that have not one ring.
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Jeb, despite the fact that I had some of the biggest contract, so if you use the Sabathia contract as the general, how many years do the Yankees have to get out of coal to basically make up what the back end is likely to be.
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Yeah, right.
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So we look at the bathroom.
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A lot of people say I was pretty successful contract, but there was There was a stretch, And I remember my first year of MLB dot com in 13 and just trying to be objective.
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You know, CC is probably like a three or four now.
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And I was working with Pete McCarthy.
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Looked at me sideways.
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Like what? Like that's who he is right now.
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We've got to be honest now.
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He came out of that, right? He went through that little bit alone there near the end of the contract.
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Got it back together at the very end.
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Um and so he kind of, you know, he redeemed himself by kind of reinventing himself a little bit into the factory and has even brought him back after the contract was pretty amazing.
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I don't know if we'll see that necessarily with Jericho, but the ring always helps write a championship, then there.
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But health is the big one, right? He could be healthy.
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Um, you know, I was going to help you for the whole thing from that.
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Sounds like that asking a lot, but you healthy for a bulk of it.
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And he only has a couple of years in there where he doesn't make 30 starts.
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Um, you know, like Mike Messina, Right? Health, for the most part throughout his tenure with the Yankees, but they didn't want a World Series when he was there, so that's a little bit frustrating, but I say was still pretty successful contract for a guy like him.
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But fans want the ring.
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That's all that matters the most.
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And what will be really interesting to be is if you go back to his last year, he was the have his 1009 New York.
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I think it be funded track because you know, he had a four in April, had over a four in May and they lose a game the rest of the year.
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But you saw how Yankee fans treated stand when he first got there, right close authority war.
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It had a good year ban.
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He hit 38 home runs and 100 are guys.
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You were thought it was terrible by the treatment that he got a very interesting to see if I don't know miracles not necessarily a notoriously slow starter, but he got off to a slow start last year and then just dominated the rest of the way.
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But time will tell.
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It's unfortunate, we can't predict, but I think help will be the big one on whether or not we believe this contract will be successful.
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So let's stay on those cops.
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And especially now let's bring in your Texas Ranger hat.
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Um, we talked the cops for Cole to Kluver and Lynn, both members now of the Texas Rangers starting rotation.
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They add that to Mike Minor and Kyle Gibson that they picked up.
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Not a bad rotation, but is it? Does that give them enough now, pitching wise to be able to compete with the Astros, who we really don't know what they're gonna look like this year and the A's and the improved Angels? You know, Ken Texas be a player in that division this year? Or if not, what do they need to be a player? Well, I think they're pitching actually matches up pretty well.
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If Cory Clubber is health threat, that the big one, um, of course you miss time.
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Last year, after getting hit with the line drive, and it looks like it's going to come back late August.
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He ended up tweaking an oblique and end up just missing the rest of the season.
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But the good version, the healthy version, Of course, Kruger is pretty special.
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We saw it in the 2016 run when they had that lead, 321 in the World Series, but just what he did, three games to one.
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But what he did throughout that postseason was pretty special, and I've helped you all time.
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I look at that point of his career.
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I mean, he was an absolute warrior similar with C.
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C.
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Sabathia did for the Milwaukee Brewers and pitching on three days rest.
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But they did it much later into the Posies, and I mean, this guy's gonna be dragging the next year.
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And he went out.
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He won the science award next season.
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I mean, this guy's in absolute that I was getting older, and of course you want to be a little bit more careful.
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But he is the kind of guy when he's healthy, they go, uh, Toto, a Justin Verlander.
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And so the idea that you can slide Mike minor down a spot who has been really good in his two years in Texas land.
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Flynn was the bathing last year.
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Um, I think kind of caught a lot of people like surprise, using a lot of fast ball the game has gotten away from.
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He's kind of a throwback in that regard and get deep in the game where we store a lot of pitches.
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But they're pretty people now.
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Call gifts is a good bounce back Canada.
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You know, he wasn't quite himself last year, Um, dealing with some issues with the with the IBF that he had, and he was just kind of, you know, out of gas early.
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But he thinks he got all that behind him.
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So to put him in a four spot, um, is really messing.
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You know, we actually do have some question marks outside of Verlander and cranky the problem.
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Junior will be back.
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We'll see what they do.
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Or Kiki actually made a nice name for himself in the postseason.
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So they got some are they got a really good line up.
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So when you're talking about whether the Rangers have to do going forward, if they're going to do anything else.
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They could fill a spot of third center field, her space, maybe catcher.
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And there's There's some spotted that they probably would like to upgrade third base.
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I think we'll still be the focus will see.
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They do have a pretty good hitter and Nick.
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So Lack was more a second baseman in 1/3 baseman, but that they can't get enough grade.
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He'll be the guy, and he'll certainly swing it pretty well.
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So they got some things that, um, they would probably still like to accomplish this.
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It's good that they were in on rundown.
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It's good that they were in on the killer.
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I think it's the fan base.
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Excited to add Cory Kluver, Now fill up the rotation going to a new ballpark next year.
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You know it's coming here.
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They're getting it together, and things will be looking pretty good here.
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For the Rangers were talking with C. J. Nitkowski.
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People, including Met fans, have been critical of the Mets.
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Moves I, for one, love what Brody's done this offseason thus far.
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They were never gonna be in on the big names for the pictures, you know, and they lost Wheeler through a division rival.
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Surely that hurt, but they took care of that in my opinion.
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Hedging that bet last year by getting Strom in ahead of time.
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They had Purcell Oh, and walk at the ed depth to what really was one of baseball's top rotations to begin with.
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Now it allows them to leave luego in the pen.
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What are you thoughts on? What the Mets did? And you know A J is concerned also about Walker because he feels now walk.
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It came here to be a starter.
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He says he doesn't want to go to the pen.
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Now. You had Porcello.
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What does that do? Yeah, so I think first of all of that situation for Michael walkies about that candidate rights.
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We have to have a good spring training.
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He's gonna prove himself.
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There's not a lot risk.
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I think about a $3 million Contracts were not a huge risk here for the Mets.
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They're probably not expecting him to make 30 to start anyway.
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I wouldn't think I mean, they like it, but I don't think that's what being, you know, the anticipation is and you just never dealt.
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But having six basic starters where you want to be, man used a good problem to have If one guy ends up getting bumped to the pen early on.
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You know, that guy's a little bit on happy.
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So they did a really nice job.
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Um, going out that rotation and, like, ****y said leaving Google on descent Leman into the bullpen.
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Right? That's the big one.
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And I know they got some maybe a couple of question marks.
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Um, you know, throughout their defense, in their lineup was a couple there.
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But that they want for me is when I keep saying all offseason, first of all, yes, keeping those guys their health.
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I'd love to see them still go out and had a guy maybe like a will harass or bring back Joseph it.
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That kind of armed and you pulled him because this team cannot afford to have this season and D s and then Wendy s.
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I mean, I just I can't see a scenario in which the wound without those guys contributing, they need to get those guys back on track.
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They need to get Robinson Cano, and also how much more than get out of him. But they need a healthy.
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They need him producing.
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And a lot of what the Mets, um you do comes from within, even though they've added from the outside.
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So I think that open with dictates, you know how their season goes unless it's somebody else's steps up for another signing. Whatever.
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Maybe a no Josh haters name is out there as a possible trade candidate, and it sounds like maybe the Yankees are interested in Well, I mean, that help teams will be interested.
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But that could actually match up pretty well with the Brewer.
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So for them, it's about the bullpen, and I know they could still add a tenner field.
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And what do you want to do? This whole cess pit of situation and, you know, even 1/3.
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But I think it's the bullpen and B as in familiar.
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They made big investment there, one via Trade one via creation dollars.
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And it's just gonna be really important that Carlos Beltran staff again.
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I won't went wrong last year.
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I get those guys back on track, so let's start with the S were second, then they keep on coming out.
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Any other Brody the Mets say, Well, if you look at his numbers.
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They really weren't that bad.
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His strikeout numbers were really good.
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He just gave up a lot of home runs.
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But other than that, Mrs Lincoln, how was the play? What do you think they can? They should do to tranq ideas back on track.
00:20:38
Was it just like, you know, Ed Wilson disease? He can't pitch in New York.
00:20:42
Yeah, I don't think it's that.
00:20:43
I mean, I don't watch this guy in Seattle quite a bit.
00:20:46
I want to come through on this guy's unbelievable.
00:20:48
I remember when they first put him in the closer role come Alexa.
00:20:52
1,000,000 right? He came through the mileage system as a starter, actually played with familiar very into my career in the minor leagues with the Mets.
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So how special he could be.
00:21:00
But when they brought him up improvement bullpen.
00:21:02
Remember thinking that don't make him a closer.
00:21:04
Make him a guy that you could treat like pretentious right there.
00:21:07
You could view 75 times have 80 innings.
00:21:09
You can use them when you're down by a couple up by more than just three.
00:21:12
But he couldn't do that closer role, which brings you know a little bit of extra added pressure.
00:21:16
I don't know if it's yours for him.
00:21:18
You never know.
00:21:19
With the guy there, the recovery's going always say the right thing.
00:21:22
Um, I didn't watch him.
00:21:23
And now this has been really, like, break down.
00:21:25
What? I saw what was different, But it could hopefully from that transit was just, you know, let me get this year out of my way that things weren't going right.
00:21:32
Probably a few bad breaks in there as well, but it is encouraging.
00:21:35
That swing of this rate was still really good. And then they listen.
00:21:39
That's the right thing for Indusind, Mark.
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And you're gonna get criticized for everything.
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But I want my general manager.
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I want my manager spinning it positive because I don't want anything negative.
00:21:48
Get back to my players.
00:21:50
I got enough to fight on their own, their own demons that they don't need.
00:21:53
And then Sam, they don't need the general manager.
00:21:56
They don't need the field manager publicly criticizing them. I know.
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I know.
00:22:00
Terry Collins do once in a while the same kind of like it, um but I think in this day and age where we care about what? How people feel probably more than ever, especially professional athlete spinning positive, even though you know they gotta dig in and find out exactly what went wrong.
00:22:13
You could answer this better than anyone, all right? And this is one of the things, and maybe it's just, you know, throwing you know, darts at a board and trying to come up with a reason why, you know, a lot was made about the baseball and the way that the seams were not raised as much as they had been in the past.
00:22:30
For a guy who relies on his slider and getting that movement on the ball, is it possible that the new ball really affected him? More so than other pictures that maybe don't rely on that brake as much as he did? Could be.
00:22:45
I mean, I think single ball pitches probably got hurt also right.
00:22:48
If you don't have that drag that they were saying, basically, there was less drag on the baseball.
00:22:53
You don't have anything to grab on to the ball and help think, whether it's a two seam fastball changeup, the breaking bottle depends on the grip and sometimes just the guy's hands.
00:23:01
You have two guys that throw a quote unquote slider, but they probably don't throw it the same way.
00:23:06
And so the baseball could affect that guy one way more than another.
00:23:10
But definitely something was going on and you had a lot of complaints about the balls feeling harder, feeling more slippery, which is a problem, And it gets in your head, man and the good old U.
00:23:19
T my math and corn thing if you folks final think about too much, man, I did a lot of bouncing around like crazy.
00:23:24
But every time you go to a new team, you want to make such an impression on that team, especially when you get to do in a big market and one that expects the way like you want to prove you belong, I'm gonna prove to your fans gonna prove it to nature coaches, your front office and things get off to a bad start.
00:23:39
A couple of games go bad early on, man.
00:23:41
It could be just a runaway train that you can't stop.
00:23:44
It felt like that was a little bit of the case last year with D s.
00:23:46
I don't know the ball in particular bothered him.
00:23:49
And based on what we heard about the findings, and we're gonna see changes or anything significant, we'll find out.
00:23:55
I'm just going up to the mess in spring training and see what's going on with him.
00:23:58
But I hope not.
00:23:59
But if it is, you gotta adjust, right.
00:24:01
If there's a handy falls, just a little bit different than perhaps it's an adjustment on that pitch and those of the conversation jihad with coaches, and hopefully they get to the bottom of it before Opening day.
00:24:10
You mentioned its chances before he's been rumored to be interested in a one year deal.
00:24:14
Would it surprise you if he doesn't return to the Yankees, especially with the rumor that they're interested in adding a bullpen arm like Josh Hater? It would not surprise me.
00:24:23
So I think that even though he's a New York guy and it's been incredible to watch to see what he's done in that uniform, he probably would be better off going somewhere else.
00:24:29
In my opinion, couple of reasons, one just, you know, a little bit of, um, maybe less expectations, Although he very welcome little big time contender.
00:24:36
That's asking for a lot like the Dodgers, um, and others.
00:24:39
The Angels would be really good.
00:24:41
Probably fit for him.
00:24:42
But I think that because that Yankee bullpen E is I mean, you don't know how quickly those guys could end up losing their role.
00:24:48
Only some of the Latino in the post right when this happened before, as good as he wasa.
00:24:53
Soon as I went a little South, somebody else is.
00:24:56
It just wasn't working out. So you're trying.
00:24:58
You're gonna find the one year deal and you're gonna do the bounce back and re establish value.
00:25:02
I can't go do it somewhere else I'm trying to do in the National League of Alice him to go to a place and assuming it's multiple opportunities would be fun to check out for a year to get it back together.
00:25:12
You couldn't have going to a team that doesn't content to get traded deadline.
00:25:16
That'll be fun.
00:25:17
Um, and then go.
00:25:18
And if you want to sign with the Yankees next off season, I do it that way.
00:25:20
I think one of the places that might be a very nice landing spot for him and the Phillies and the Phillies have quietly upgraded their team at Joe Girardi is the manager.
00:25:30
They get that front line started and take away from a division rival in Zach Wheeler.
00:25:35
They signed D D Gregorius, which fills one of their holes in the infield.
00:25:38
Add that to what they did last year with Harper and J. T.
00:25:41
Realmuto and Segura.
00:25:42
The big question for me, I guess, is those area that rebound? And can they compete with a back end of the rotation of Velazquez and eh Flynn with both had, like mid to four, mid 40 are raises that can they compete with those? Two was their back end.
00:25:58
They can if the bullpen is right.
00:25:59
And that was the same.
00:26:00
Basically question.
00:26:01
We have Flasher about that who was kind of gonna emerge at the at the bottom of rotation.
00:26:06
We saw enough to know that the best version of Arun Ola either, and no doubt that you will be good again.
00:26:11
It seems like a guy that is well on his way to kind of, and you establish himself really kind of taking it to the next level.
00:26:18
Little stumble for him last year so they can hang in there.
00:26:21
There's good rotations.
00:26:22
I mean, you mentioned the Mets.
00:26:23
They're really good theater.
00:26:25
Lanta, Braves, the Washington National Sofia.
00:26:27
They just turned in rank the rotation.
00:26:30
They may end up finishing fourth of that group doesn't mean they can't win a division that we go.
00:26:34
The things that the game has shown us, even though we saw a lot of good starting pitchers make a big difference this last postseason.
00:26:40
And we also know you could do it other ways and one of those ways.
00:26:43
If you're a little bit weak at the bottom, maybe you either employ or deploy the opener, which I think you know from Angelo.
00:26:49
If you're in the beginning that I've seen how it's worked out well for the right arm could be able to do it and handle it.
00:26:55
So that's one way you can fill a rotation Spinal, it's not going well or you just cover starters.
00:27:00
I can't go that deep within, which is tough to do over the long haul.
00:27:05
But with the extra man 26 man roster, that helps a little bit if you have the pieces to do it so they don't add anything else in that rotation and they go with those guys at the bottom.
00:27:14
I mean, they're gonna be good, no doubt, but they'll have a chance to win and pitch well if they have the bullpen arms behind those guys staying within that division to me, which is from me.
00:27:24
No doubt it's the most interesting division in baseball.
00:27:27
Washington Nationals.
00:27:28
If you're the GM of the Nationals, would you have put the priority on re signing Strasburg or Rend own? And again, you? You set that up earlier, talking about the big contracts for pictures and how they've led two rings.
00:27:41
But that guy was all world, and I don't know how you let him walk.
00:27:46
May I might have prioritized him.
00:27:48
Which would you have done? Yeah, it's interesting, right, because they basically signed the same contract.
00:27:52
And so you should know what they were in that spot to say.
00:27:54
Do we offer to 45 Stephen Strasburg, or do we offer to Anthony Randall which one to rehab? Which position you have? A better chance? It that feeling.
00:28:02
There's some good third base officers out there, whether free agency, like Josh Donaldson or via trade this a couple of its third.
00:28:08
They weren't gonna be on the coal market.
00:28:10
And you know, Mac Shires.
00:28:11
We're talking about a contract that have worked out well.
00:28:13
It's been great, but he showed some fatigue a little bit there.
00:28:17
I mean, this guy goes hard all the time and we saw in the postseason and he was good.
00:28:21
But you start to wonder, Man, is he really gonna be able to grind out these last two years of this contract and do they need to have a little bit more protection in there? So it's tough because of the year that's Trosper came off.
00:28:32
And also I feel like this is strictly a guess, but it feels like Anthony Randall was a little bit more interested in what the entire market had to offer.
00:28:40
I think he was transferred, was a little bit more interested in getting the best deal he could get to go back to the Washington Nationals.
00:28:45
Very great leverage with the Yankees.
00:28:47
Met with him. Another team certainly would have been interested.
00:28:49
A lot of us thought with the Padres, get in.
00:28:51
Do you want to go home of the San Diego? But he's already moved to stand with D.
00:28:55
C.
00:28:56
So I think he really wanted to be there, and not that Rend own wouldn't have gone back.
00:28:59
But I think it's one of those things when you start to have those conversations and try to paradise.
00:29:03
Okay, Which one do we want you to know that that's important than anything? Rendering wouldn't want to go back.
00:29:09
I think Steven Tries were probably wanted it a little bit more and it's a winning formula, and they'll try to put somebody else in 1/3 base and go with that really good rotation of pop.
00:29:18
So one of the most interesting stories to come out of the winter meetings was the MLB proposing that it might cut ties with 42 minor league teams after the 2020 season and the P B A expires.
00:29:29
What do you make of the public and kind of contentious way that this back and forth has gone between minor and major league baseball? Yes, it's tough.
00:29:37
I mean, obviously it is starting to get pretty heated right now, and I get caught in the middle because opponent can appreciate where they are.
00:29:45
From a business standpoint, the mileage to be much bigger scope.
00:29:48
Go back to the sixties and how deep the mileage system ran.
00:29:51
And, you know, over time it got a little bit more efficient, got smaller, and now it seems like Major League baseball is interested in doing that again.
00:29:58
Um, you know, you hate to see anybody, any city, especially some of the smaller cities, that they're talking about rookie leagues and short.
00:30:06
There would be potentially losing teams.
00:30:08
But at the same time, you know I got drafted.
00:30:10
There was no limit of trash where we don't know my past story and others that got trapped in the 50th 60th round of late end of becoming big leaguers.
00:30:18
Then they capped the draft of 50 rounds.
00:30:20
Now it's down to 40 right? So it keeps getting smaller and smaller and the idea of being a little more efficient but also upgrading what you're doing.
00:30:28
I kind of like that for the player experience.
00:30:30
Your odds of making it to the big things are really small.
00:30:34
Even once you become a professional, which is tougher than the idea of sticking and making life changing money because he was smaller than so just Is there a better way to do it.
00:30:43
You know, that year that I finished up with the maps in 2012 I think is a good example of why there might be some animosity, right? We see these teams changing all the time.
00:30:52
The Mets were in Buffalo that year in Triple A and remember, finished director and Sandy Alderson and come up to talk to the ownership group in the general manager in Buffalo because they want to make sure that you get that at least signed.
00:31:03
So go back to Buffalo to the devices.
00:31:06
Just weren't interested.
00:31:07
They wanted to move on to another organization, and so you can only go to one of the 30 million.
00:31:12
And the Mets got stuck and I had to go to Las Vegas and I have a Triple A team in Las Vegas.
00:31:16
When you need your like.
00:31:17
That shouldn't happen like that.
00:31:18
That's a problem.
00:31:19
Makes it difficult for a lot of different reasons.
00:31:22
And so there's kind of two sides to it where you know there's a little bit of power there for some of these finally organizations and they'll wield it and they'll put some teams in some really tough spots, which which is not ideal anything.
00:31:32
Major League baseball.
00:31:33
I'm dealing with that power struggle right now.
00:31:36
I don't know.
00:31:37
I the idea of, you know, they take a teen away from Pete Montana in a short season league on what that does to, you know, Major League baseball's marketability in smaller cities have problems, too.
00:31:50
If you go to the whole conversation about the dream with and the idea that will slow, baseball just won't be affiliated with people.
00:31:57
Call it the Dream League, and they'll be a partnership there with Major league baseball and, um, and my only baseball.
00:32:03
But, you know, there's something about being in a city where you have an affiliated team right where you say even know what compute Montana see we have.
00:32:09
We're filling the rights that we got Reds flavor series and almost never gonna make it.
00:32:13
I think there's a draw their, um, that you would move if you ended up going to the dream like so I get both sides of it.
00:32:20
I'd like to see you get work down.
00:32:22
You don't want to see teams go away, but same time, I'd love to see the mileage situation.
00:32:26
Everything else get better including paying the pains on the TV That's not on the Mile reported.
00:32:31
They agree.
00:32:34
I think minor league baseball is essential to a lot of towns and the economy there in the jobs and also for the love of baseball.
00:32:40
That's where the kids are able to go and see it and developed a love for the game all right before we let you go.
00:32:45
C J Not even Christmas yet, but looking forward to 2020 baseball season.
00:32:49
Give me the five top story lines you're most interested seeing play out this season.
00:32:54
My top five without warning that, uh, well, Gary Cole, particularly Yankee pinstripes.
00:33:01
Certainly going to be a lot of fun, the one that discipline whatever comes down here for the Houston Astros going to be a really big story and what that does to the game.
00:33:09
I think they really need to make their mark and make it be known.
00:33:13
The aging inches at the winter meetings, um, pretty contrite, and I think that he knows that the big punishment could be coming.
00:33:21
I'm not the Angels with the money of Spence and then also having the best player in the game of my trout may become a contender that never won a postseason.
00:33:27
Being with my job and having the best player in the way, I think that will certainly be pretty interesting.
00:33:34
One.
00:33:35
I think the rest of this off season with the Dodgers spend.
00:33:37
There's not guys even spend necessarily that huge money on anymore.
00:33:40
And it's been interesting to see, um, you know the way that they've got about they've been consistent.
00:33:45
I said, if you had a choice over the last decade, right in 2010 you're gonna Dodger phone with world Siris appearances and a bunch of division paddles.
00:33:54
Or Kansas City Royals fan in which planet happier, one that has the one ring and run hasn't been good.
00:33:59
I went to one world, lose one another, but then it pretty much went back to how they used to be.
00:34:04
What you want to be a consistent winner with no ranks.
00:34:06
I think the oil fans say we're pretty happy with you out of your oil stand right now.
00:34:10
Um, then the doctor can, at least over those 10 years, which kind of fascinates me, you know, just as far as the way that the whole thing went down and I think the managers of the managers and the way things gonna watching you guys like Carlos Beltran and a lot of people don't know who just finger was that he was a coach with the Rangers so super excited to see him.
00:34:27
I get that opportunity the right now going into 2020 the average tenure of a major league manager to 20200.
00:34:35
4 years.
00:34:37
I mean, it is the amount of turnover that we have had over the last couple of years.
00:34:41
It's just been absolutely amazing.
00:34:43
That number will go up, but the average for these guys holding the job.
00:34:46
We had eight opening, so that brings the number weight down the 2.
00:34:49
4 years.
00:34:50
I mean, that's just incredible to me.
00:34:51
So watching these managers, a lot of young guys, some inexperienced, getting the first opportunity, I think always worth watching as well.
00:35:00
So you always know.
00:35:01
You guessed.
00:35:02
I knew I could give that question and you nailed five without even breaking a sweat.
00:35:06
CJ C J Thanks so much for your time time.
00:35:09
We look forward to touching base with you during the season and is seeing out at the stadiums, and two, Here are your Morning forever MLB Network with Steve Phillips.
00:35:16
Absolutely be good, C J.
00:35:17
Have a great holiday.
00:35:19
Thanks, guys you got. C. J.
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It's time now for our NHL report with Russ Cone.
00:36:42
We bring him in, Russ, you know, very strange way, and I just quickly looked up on my television.
00:36:47
I saw the call on the bottom of the screen.
00:36:51
Dallas fires coach.
00:36:52
I said, Oh, finally, the Cowboys did something, but it wasn't the Cowboys.
00:36:56
It's Jim Montgomery.
00:36:57
The guy that was one of the top candidates for the Ranger position gets fired and the Stars, citing unprofessional conduct, is the reason for his dismissal.
00:37:09
Have any more details come out? And were you surprised that Jim Montgomery got fired? I was surprised.
00:37:16
No more details have come out.
00:37:18
Just was, you know, we're all just told that Hey had nothing to do with players past or present, and nothing to do with on the ice or anything with the team.
00:37:27
So that's, you know, that's a little big, vast world of what that could mean.
00:37:32
Otherwise, at some point we'll probably find out.
00:37:34
But you know, right now, whatever he did.
00:37:37
Obviously he's, uh, he's paying the price for interesting because it really sets up a bad, you know, pretty much, uh, not not only an optic, but it's a cloud over the team, as they have no idea why their coach got fired.
00:37:53
I understand, you know, unprofessional.
00:37:55
What was it? What did it have you have a wish from the team knows? Well, obviously, the team knows that's why my plans and I get that there wasn't any transparency, but I think that it all got lawyered up, and I think that was part of the problem.
00:38:10
But again, like John Torchetti just got fired with Monk in in the queue and they gave no details.
00:38:17
So for teams that don't give details, there's gonna be a lot of people digging, digging, digging for a very long time to find out.
00:38:24
And, you know, I'm not a fan of no transparency, but I think in the Stars case didn't have a choice.
00:38:30
But, you know, most of the time you do have a choice of the team started you off of the teams who have made an early season changed, who do you see rallying behind that.
00:38:40
I don't know if anybody's going to rally behind these changes.
00:38:43
I mean, certainly the Devils aren't, uh, I don't think the Sharks have.
00:38:50
I don't know if anybody's going to.
00:38:52
That's the honest thing.
00:38:53
I just I just think they were changes that that get made because it had to be done, and then they sort of look, just look for anything positive.
00:39:02
But I'm not sure anybody you know, getting a big spark out of it.
00:39:06
All right, we talked about the devil's.
00:39:07
We've been talking about tell a whole all season long.
00:39:09
He was a healthy scratch.
00:39:11
The clock is obviously taking, but the longer that this clock ticks longer that he's a healthy scratch on a team that's going nowhere.
00:39:18
The trade value of my opinion just plummets because obviously the yo tell a whole now is being an ends Piquet.
00:39:26
Supan is, well, kind of looked at as almost like clubhouse cancers.
00:39:30
Ah, what is the return for for Attallah Hole at this point, given what's transpired, you know, this season with him? Well, I mean to top prospects didn't play yesterday for, um in the H l for Florida Alexey happen the Emmy and Henrik boards from those two really good players, so with bright careers ahead of them, So I think you would get those players and probably a roster player and our first round pick, Hello is gonna bring a lot.
00:40:01
I don't think I'm not playing is not gonna bring him a lot.
00:40:03
I just think him not playing.
00:40:05
It's just teams don't want him to get hurt.
00:40:07
Two Devils want him out of there and they know he's going to get traded.
00:40:10
But it's not like you can't play.
00:40:11
He just hasn't been playing hard the last couple of weeks.
00:40:14
Suban has a problem because we could see there's a speed problem.
00:40:17
I think he probably didn't train like you should over the summer.
00:40:21
That's my guess, So I'm not sure that he's done eye.
00:40:24
Jinky niece needs to refocus himself, but as far as how they're going to get a lot, but they're trying to get it done before the Christmas freeze, which is soon, which is a couple days from now and so I think it will and that's why I kind of felt for the last couple of weeks like this is heading this way because the team wasn't going anywhere and he want to be there.
00:40:43
Lastly, you know, we made a big deal.
00:40:44
How Kratz off used, is out and went back to the K H.
00:40:47
L looks like he's on his way back to the H l.
00:40:49
How did that old transpire? And is that a good thing to happen back here in the H l? Well, what apparently happened was he, you know, he wasn't doing well with the K H L Club was not a great club, so they sent him down to the the NHL, You know, the junior system.
00:41:05
And he's already been in a junior system, so he didn't really want to be there, so they tried to trade them, and they said nobody wanted him, but that's probably because they all knew he was gonna probably go back to North America anyhow, at some point.
00:41:17
So teams aren't gonna give up much an asset form, So nobody wanted him, so he came back.
00:41:21
So now he'll probably have to deal with being in Hartford.
00:41:25
I think it's good.
00:41:27
I just hope that he doesn't pout and sort of, you know, get everything straight and rooms with us, Eric, and get going because, you know, that's the best thing that could happen for him and the Rangers at this point.
00:41:41
All right, Russ, Thanks so much.
00:41:42
Russ Cone.
00:41:43
Okay, over here each and every week with the NHL report, we turn our attention from the ice to the hardwood with bringing the time Tauber and, uh, you know tomorrow, eh? Line from Godfather.
00:41:53
I think it was three.
00:41:54
Just when mellow.
00:41:56
Just one mellow.
00:41:57
No, just out of mellow.
00:42:00
He pulls me back in this week.
00:42:04
Carmelo Anthony actually said that he would like his uniform number retired by the Knicks.
00:42:11
So I am.
00:42:12
I know this is your favorite topic, you know? Should Carmelo Anthony's number be retired by the New York Knicks.
00:42:20
Um, first of all, it's an interesting question because from a numbers standpoint, from a face of the franchise standpoint, if you look at how long he actually was with the Knicks, if you look at the numbers he put up, if you look at what a critical role he played and just what was in absolute a bit for the franchise, you know, driving them to a 50 win season into a playoff, the only playoff appearance they've had.
00:42:50
Um, you could make an argument for it.
00:42:53
Honestly, if you were it, you were to put together a statistically speaking, a list of the top Knicks of all time.
00:43:00
Carmelo Anthony, surprisingly, belongs in the conversation.
00:43:04
It's weird you're not typically associated with that kind of neck.
00:43:06
He's on a lifelong Nick.
00:43:07
He was a well established nugget first scoring leader.
00:43:10
All that, um, I'm the other hand.
00:43:14
It just doesn't add up. Nick Capsule.
00:43:16
Do you really want to memorialize memory? I mean, what exactly, you know, in a town that prides itself on a town with the Yankees and the Islanders winning four straight in the 94 Forever championship? Do you really wanna memorialize or commemorate mediocrity and a good score in that, um, for me, it's a past, so I can certainly hear the argument more than I accepted that.
00:43:40
When looking at the numbers put, put him comparison to Bernard King.
00:43:45
Yeah, how would you control, don't you that that's the regular comparison that he always comparison? Um, Mello was actually did it for longer mellows playing in a different league, obviously.
00:43:57
So the offensive numbers.
00:43:58
We're gonna be better.
00:44:00
They just are.
00:44:01
Bernard, although in an abbreviated run of dominance, was probably more dominant.
00:44:06
Bernard, when he was with the Knicks, had a Sandy, Koufax like trajectory where it was a very brief, very short, Um, I guess shooting star, if you will, and that it was brief.
00:44:18
But Moon was he'd element when he was here.
00:44:21
It just it never amounted to what it should have any kind of.
00:44:25
He bridged the gap from the Knicks to the perpetual playoff 96.
00:44:31
I mean, he just missed Patrick.
00:44:33
He just missed Mark Jackson.
00:44:34
He just missed that heyday.
00:44:36
Um, Carmelo Anthony.
00:44:38
He was just it.
00:44:40
That was all that was there.
00:44:41
Um, So in terms of how Nick stands and I remember that I think there are Bernard is always going to be remembered more fondly.
00:44:50
It wasn't this period of next basketball as faras players.
00:44:54
I mean, that's the regular comparison.
00:44:56
Bernard and Mellow.
00:44:58
Mellow is the more gifted scorer.
00:45:00
I think in terms of more versatile and can do more things.
00:45:03
Bernard was more dominant for his time, So the thing you never thought you'd say the Knicks have won two in a row go for three in a row.
00:45:09
Tonight is an indication just how bad the opposition was or they sort of.
00:45:14
They found a little spark of something.
00:45:17
I think it's a little both, um, they Even before coach says that was out, They found that competitiveness.
00:45:26
They were pushing us to the brink and ever coming up just short.
00:45:29
Um, yeah, they hit the soft spot on schedule and it certainly helping things.
00:45:33
I think that as trade rumors start to swirl as pieces of those veteran pieces who are just one year deals, maybe start seeing some roster changes, I think they're gonna fall right back to where they have been.
00:45:44
The Golden State's the only team in the league that's worse than them.
00:45:47
It Sacramento.
00:45:48
I mean, there was a great match was a great win for them, but again, that's not an upper echelon team.
00:45:53
That's a team that they kind of caught on a bad night and they played out of their minds.
00:45:58
You're not typically expecting 37 out of markets.
00:46:01
Morris.
00:46:02
You don't expect in the next to play like that.
00:46:03
I think that that was It's been a nice run.
00:46:06
I don't expect it to be stained.
00:46:08
I wanted to ask about the Warriors and their first toe worst.
00:46:12
It's not so unexpected because of Katie's departure and Thompson's injury.
00:46:16
But do you see them now? And Steph Curry? But do you see them? Is not being just in that like middle eighth or ninth seed.
00:46:23
But being fully down at the bottom of the league is a way for them to actually gain some talent where they've always Do you think this is what's going to infuriate an entire generation of N BA fans who don't remember the Spurs the end of the nineties? This is that Tim Duncan scenario.
00:46:37
This is a team that has their star has everything they have been kind of fading out, fizzling out on the back nine.
00:46:45
Um, and then injuries just propel them right into the top of the draft class, and the Empire lives again.
00:46:52
The Golden State Warriors.
00:46:55
They're missing anything that the dominant big stretch five somebody who could do the same with Anthony Davis is doing out in Los Angeles.
00:47:01
They're in prime position to get themselves James Wise, and they are in great visit and then you have playback and you have stepped back and you have dream on again and the evil empire lives again.
00:47:14
I don't know if that's copywriter.
00:47:15
I'm living Deal.
00:47:16
Oh, um, sorry.
00:47:18
Do you see them moving? Deal.
00:47:19
Oh, at some point, I don't know if that's gonna be this season.
00:47:23
I don't know what the long term plans are.
00:47:25
I don't think he's going to be, um, with what I expect to be the next run of warrior greatness.
00:47:32
I'm not sure if it's a movie that necessarily do at this headlong or something, the way to the off season, but I don't think he's part of a long term plan.
00:47:39
All right, I am Thanks so much.
00:47:40
Kind of taboo here.
00:47:41
Each and every week with the MBA report.
00:47:43
Good stuff out of him this week.
00:47:45
Golden State Warriors. He's right.
00:47:47
I think they will be back in.
00:47:48
And that's San Antonio.
00:47:49
We talked about for years old.
00:47:51
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Bruno Sammartino was an Italian born American professional wrestler best known for his work with the World Wrestling Federation, the WWF, now known as W. W. E.
00:53:52
There he held the WWF World Championship title for more than 11 years.
00:53:56
Known as the Italian Strongman and the strongest man in the world, he later earned the title The living Legend known for his powerful bear hug finishing move, he was widely regarded as one of the greatest professional wrestlers off all time.
00:54:09
Last month, a do***entary about the ledges life was released.
00:54:11
We're thrilled to have Michael Young, who currently serves as the managing partner of H M three Media, which produced the film, and Darryl Sammartino, the son of the late great legend Bruno Sammartino, join us to talk about the film. Good evening, guys.
00:54:24
How you doing? Good evening, Mark in A J to be with you and all your listeners.
00:54:29
Thanks, Michael.
00:54:30
Let's start with you.
00:54:31
You spent 36 years and radio broadcasting, which including leading all facets of CBS owned and operated stations in Pittsburgh, where you and your team were responsible for developing and launching K D.
00:54:42
K FM Sports Radio, 93 7 The fan considered by many as one of the most successful radio station launches in recent years.
00:54:49
Three years ago, you launch a Chem three Bruno LLC for the sole purpose of producing a feature do***entary film on the life of Bruno Sammartino.
00:54:58
What's the motivation for you to get into film and why Bruno is your first project? You know, I think it's probably more about Bruno than it is getting into film.
00:55:10
And, um, uh, Daryl can talk about his dad better than I can.
00:55:15
But I think once you get to know, Bruno and I became friends with Bruno, um, several years ago and we learned of his story.
00:55:24
And friends of our started the process of a man by the name of Marty Lazaro, very good friend with Bruno, traveled over the pizza Perata in 2010 and started filming the story, um, myself and Larry Richard, who's the executive producer and also went on that 2010 trip, too.
00:55:44
Pizza. Perata.
00:55:45
Um, we came in and in, uh uh, several years after that, after they had the original filming, and it was very rough.
00:55:53
And, um It was just kind of sitting there.
00:55:56
And so we invested into, uh, to take it to the next level was to get it professionally done and to get the story, Uh, which is Bruno story out to the public? Darryl.
00:56:06
I find it ironic that the same month two films open about iconic Pittsburgh residents Mr Rogers and your Dad.
00:56:13
There's a scene in the film, a beautiful day in the neighborhood where the interviewer asked Tom Hanks, who plays Fred Rogers, what his kids would say about him as a dad.
00:56:20
Your dad was a hero to so many people.
00:56:22
What was he like as a dad? And was it tough for you to have to share him with the world? You know what? I get that question a lot on, uh, my dad was just my dad, You know what I mean? Uh, you know, he had a different type of job, but he was just still bad, you know? So, uh, for sharing him around the world.
00:56:42
I really got to see that because I traveled with him all around the world, and, uh, it's just a respect factor, you know that.
00:56:49
I really appreciate it.
00:56:50
and and I was saving others in all watching it.
00:56:54
You know what? He was just at us, you know? So this is actually for Michael, the third do***entary about murder, Mr Martino, There's one that was done by, of all people, George Romero.
00:57:05
With the night of the living dead, there's a Siris on sports legends in the Pittsburgh area.
00:57:10
Then there's one that Bruno actually did.
00:57:12
I think of 2006 that ran two and 1/2 hours.
00:57:15
So how much either one of those influences for this do***entary.
00:57:19
And what do you want? Did you want to make this one different from the others? I think what makes this one different from the others is this is Bruno story.
00:57:30
Um, Why he wasn't alive when we when we released it, Um, he was alive when we had the very rough but done.
00:57:40
And he and Darryl's mother, Carol a cz well, as Darryl, uh, saw the saw the film understood the story.
00:57:50
Many of Bruno's family members are in the story, and it's a story that he wanted to tell.
00:57:55
So I think that, um uh is really the difference.
00:58:00
Ah, in that do***entary versus the others that you mentioned, and I think also, um, and again Darryl can talk to this a little bit as well.
00:58:08
Um, it really is Bruno's life story.
00:58:11
It's not his wrestling story.
00:58:12
It's ah, it's an immigration story for the ages, Um, and it's really a lot about his mother as well.
00:58:19
With Bruno's hero, I had a great influence over his wife.
00:58:24
No, Darryl.
00:58:25
I mentioned that Pittsburgh connection.
00:58:26
But New York has a very strong connection to Bruno's.
00:58:29
Well, just eight days after the official opening of Madison Square Garden, widely considered that point the mecca of pro wrestling, your dad headline the first wrestling show the Guard never hosted as the marquee attraction and centerpiece of Vincent with seniors Northeast Territory.
00:58:44
Bruno sold out Madison Square Garden more than any wrestler in history, and for a time, Madison Square Garden was actually known as the House that Bruno Belt.
00:58:52
What's your earliest recollection of your dad and the love affair New York fans had with him? Well, I traveled with my dad.
00:59:02
You know what? We went to New York when he got in the Hall of Fame in 2000.
00:59:06
That's the only time I was ever in New York with my dad, but I would go to the Phillies spectrum when I was a kid.
00:59:12
I went to Boston Garden and I would see you know, I was sitting in the stands.
00:59:18
20,000 people change his name, so it just wasn't New York.
00:59:22
It was basically the, you know, the whole East Coast, and it's kind of weird sitting there, and all of a sudden, you know, you got 20,000 people change.
00:59:30
Your dad's name is kind of weird as a kid.
00:59:35
Yeah, Michael, you mentioned that.
00:59:37
It's also it's more than just wrestling.
00:59:39
And it is because, you know, it talks about how Bruno came here after you fought off rheumatic fever, you know, Before World War two ended, his mother nursed him back to health after doctors told her that her youngest son had only a day or two to live.
00:59:51
You're so sickly that it took nearly three years before medical authorities would clear him to travel on reunite here with his dad.
00:59:57
At that point, he's drawn to Jim and weightlifting.
00:59:59
Within 10 years, the proverbial £98 weakling bulked up both himself up to a £275 powerhouse would be considered one of the strongest men on the planet.
01:00:09
He was an inspiration to a man who inducted him into the Hall of Fame in 2013 and that's Arnold Schwarzenegger.
01:00:15
Clearly, they had a close relationship with the Italian superhero.
01:00:19
What is Arnold's role in the do***entary and how much of Arnold's love comes through in the areas that he talks about? Bruno in the film? You know, I think our dancers the second part of questions first, um, um, I think a lot of what Arnold said is is just true admiration, respect and friendship with Bruno Sammartino.
01:00:44
Uh, So, um, we asked Arnold, Larry Richard, our executive producer, approached him about doing the forward, and, uh, Arnold was honored to do it.
01:00:56
And, uh, you know the interesting story to back in 2013 when Bruno was inducted into the W.
01:01:04
W E Hall of Fame, Arnold played a part in introducing him for the Hall of Fame, and he was on a set all the way in California, uh, and flew there just that, just just across the country, just to be there to make sure that he could introduce Bruno into the W W E all fame.
01:01:27
And I think that right there, uh, probably is a referendum on what Arnold thinks of Bruno Sammartino.
01:01:35
So if you take a look at Bruno's career, he had his ups and downs and falling outs with the Minuteman is W E and the end, largely because of steroids.
01:01:44
He was a big spokesman against use of steroids by athletes.
01:01:47
How much do you hit on that in the film? How important is that? And Daryl, how important is that? What you think is Bruno's legacy.
01:01:56
Uh, Michael, you want to go where you want me to go? Yeah, well, I'll answer the first question that the, um, agent Mark, the film really doesn't address that at all.
01:02:08
Um um, But, um, Bruno was a very, very principled man.
01:02:13
Um, and, uh, r r r team in terms of Marty and Larry and others were instrumental in, um, having Bruno get back with the W w e.
01:02:27
And we're very grateful for the W w e.
01:02:29
Both for their support of Bruno and for recognizing bro known inducting him into the Hall of Fame in 2013 Michael Sena's also featured in the do***entary, and I know that the W. W.
01:02:43
Is very protective over his brand.
01:02:45
How involved were they? And how much did that 2000 reconciliate 2013 Reconciliation help in getting them to allow guys like Michael Sena and some of the former wrestlers from the W W E.
01:02:58
To be part of this project? You know, I really don't have a knowledge on the depth of that.
01:03:04
I don't know if, uh, Gerald does or not.
01:03:07
So I'm sorry that I can't answer that.
01:03:10
Ah, little bit more in detail.
01:03:13
So, Darryl, uh, you know, let's if you can speak to that.
01:03:17
You know how instrumental was at reconciliation to allowing guys to be part of this project? It was It was, you know, huge.
01:03:26
Uh, Paul Levesque.
01:03:28
Notice. Triple H.
01:03:29
Hate contact my dad.
01:03:31
Probably a year, Like in 2012.
01:03:34
Guys, I was asking, you know, asking when dad, please.
01:03:37
You know, we made a lot of changes.
01:03:39
No.
01:03:40
Would you please come into the Hall of Fame? And and, you know, my dad had a good friend named Dr Joseph Maroon, who's also a doctor for the Steelers but he's also a doctor for W W E.
01:03:50
And they do a lot of ah, you know, they do a lot of non rugs, you know, as Faras.
01:03:58
You know, as far as a drug testing they.
01:04:01
I mean, it's a legit legit, you know, business now, as far as the drug testing and that sort of thing, it wasn't always like that.
01:04:09
So my dad saw these changes.
01:04:10
He saw there was no more profanity and nudity and vulgarity on their show, and he thought, Well, they've made the proper changes.
01:04:19
So I'm okay with that.
01:04:21
No, I think I'm gonna go in and that's what happened.
01:04:23
W W could have been nicer with my dad, our family, and I think it was a win win for both sides.
01:04:30
Michael.
01:04:31
What many people don't remember is, according to Sports Illustrated Bruno, Willie Mays and ****ey Mantle, with a top paid athletes of the 19 sixties, wrestling in the early days was much watch TV, and Bruno was a superstar of the medium.
01:04:44
Can you put into context for our listeners what TV meant to wrestling? And how Bruno became the face of wrestling? You know, I think at that point in time.
01:04:54
Um, uh, television was very, very instrumental in, um, kind of heightening the popularity of rustling.
01:05:04
Um, you know, a lot of it was done, and, you know, outside of the big, big events in minutes from square Garden, one of the other bouts were done in more smaller arenas.
01:05:15
And it gave more people access to the, uh, to the sport, and Bruno just personified.
01:05:22
Um, sport, um a with this raw strength and be just what? The kind of character waas you know? You know, Bruno is ah, a bad ass in the ring, but outside of the ring, he was humble and genuine, and, uh, his mother and father raised a darn good kid.
01:05:45
They're only know your dad had reservations about your brother David becoming a wrestler.
01:05:50
So a few questions here.
01:05:51
Did you ever want to be arrested as well? And how did your brother's relationship changed with your dad over the years? Well, I really did not want Oh, uh, the special wrestler I got in tow law enforcement that my career, uh, in my dad wanted us all to go to college as faras uh, David getting interesting.
01:06:13
My dad really didn't want that.
01:06:15
And, uh, my dad kind of sentiment that Thomas and territories were he would was hopeful that David would actually quit.
01:06:24
David didn't quit.
01:06:25
And, uh, you know, he was a grown man, and he still wanna wrestle.
01:06:28
And what you gonna do? So he wrestled in, You know, uh, you know is what it is.
01:06:36
Michael.
01:06:37
Live in advance screenings of Bruno Sammartino at the Cinema Village Theater here in New York and in the ah Monica Film Center in Santa Monica, California.
01:06:44
How did those screenings go on? What's what in the audience reaction thus far to the film, You know, we've had we've had We've had some pretty good reaction from people that we met Daryl and our executive producer, Larry.
01:06:57
We're in New York.
01:06:58
Um, uh um, just right before Excuse me right after the Thanksgiving holiday on.
01:07:06
Then went out to, uh l A.
01:07:08
As well, um, and and we you know, we put the film out because it was ready to go.
01:07:14
Um, we're working with a, uh, broker in the distribution business.
01:07:20
Um, and we're starting those efforts.
01:07:23
Uh, right now we're working with a guy by the name of Glen Reynolds from Circus Road Films.
01:07:29
And the idea was to get it out for two reasons.
01:07:34
That the Thanksgiving Week one was it qualified for us Thio to be considered in concert and, uh, and submit which we did for an Academy Award.
01:07:44
I think right now we're one of 100 and 60 do***entaries that air considered.
01:07:48
And I think sometime next week, the academy narrows down down to 15.
01:07:52
Don't know if we'll make that cut or not, but it also kind of grease the skids for our distributor partners to go out and start Thio.
01:07:59
Uh um, uh, make some noise about the film.
01:08:02
Um, we're planning right now.
01:08:04
We don't have a date yet, but we're doing a We're planning a premier gala in Pittsburgh for the spring.
01:08:10
Were targeting and looking at some dates in in April right now.
01:08:14
And that gala will, um, will also benefit the foundation that our group set up for, um Bruno, which is the Bruno and Carol San Martino Foundation.
01:08:27
So, uh, we're excited about that.
01:08:29
Their mission is to help provide folks of food, shelter and service is to use their burdens of life's basic necessities there.
01:08:38
What was your reaction to seeing the film for the first time? And what's the biggest thing you want? Fans of your dad or people who may be only finding about about Bruno for the first time? What do you want them to take away from the film? Well, I want them to see that, you know? Yeah, my dad was arrested, but again, like Michael said, it's not really about wrestling, about the love that he had and expect that he had for his mother.
01:09:02
And like when Dad would always say, you know, his mother basically brought him back to life and my dad always wanted make her proud and, uh, you know, and just do good things, positive things.
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So, you know, his mother, my grandmother would feel very, very, you know, happy how everything turned out.
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And, you know, here he is with rheumatic fever.
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As a kid, you know, they had to put leeches.
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My grandmother put leeches all over.
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The theory was to suck out all the poison blood, and then all of a sudden, he's the world's strongest man.
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So, uh, you know, the movie basically shows, you know, that my dad, you know his His mom was a zero.
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And if it wasn't for her, nobody would ever heard of burning. Say, Martineau.
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Michael, if I If I may just anecdotally, if I could add onto what Daryl said a couple years ago and we showed the rough cut, Um, a neighbor of ours and Darryl, I think you were at my house that night, too.
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And we did that, um, screening 85 year old time when these guy and he had, uh, had been in a dinner about two months before that we had with Bruno and some of our partners and um him and immigrated to the United States.
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He was a horde Ecologist for Penn State University and then moved down the Pittsburgh area.
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So he's watching the film with us at the at the end of the film and against his rough cut.
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He gets up and he's crying, and he's crying because the immigration story of Bruno Sammartino Excuse me, Bruno Sammartino reminded him of all the impediments and all but all the trouble that he had in his life immigrating to the United States and so an adult cle.
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The film is a little bit about that as well.
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It's really an immigration story for the ages, Michael.
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Thanks so much time for your time tonight.
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Where's the best place for people to find out about release dates and when it will be airing in their area? Right now, it's just a landing page.
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But, um Bruno Sammartino doc dot com And that's a That's a tongue twister to say that, but it's got the trailer on it right now, and we'll be populating with release states and, uh uh, more information about distribution, too, as we go through that process over the next several weeks.
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Awesome, Daryl.
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Thanks a swell for coming on.
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And more importantly, I want you to know that Bruno Sammartino was one of the first sports bonding moments I had with my grandfather, who was 71 at the time.
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He was a huge wrestling fan.
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I was six or seven.
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It was 1967.
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He was staying over a house and he was a huge wrestling fan, and he would go on and on and on about how great Bruno Sammartino Waas.
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And it was a moment that I'll never forget.
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And for that reason alone, you're that has always been my favorite wrestler.
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So I wanted you to know that. And thank you for that.
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No, thank you.
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I appreciate that.
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That's very nice.
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Thank you.
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Thank you very much for having us Mark and and, uh, for allowing us talk about the the film.
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And it's obvious you're your familiarity with Bruno in your fans.
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So, uh, really appreciate your time.
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We appreciate you coming on in A.
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J.
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And I are looking forward to seeing the film for sure.
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Thanks so much.
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So, yeah, about the time you put your tongue on the metal pole and I got that that Christmas, I did not shoot my eyes.
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But you do have that lamp.
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It is a for good heart warming Christmas Here, a story, something weird.
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You know, for kids, needy kids.
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This year, the outdid themselves fans through and says Martelli, hockey money.
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They don't have a huge you know, 20,000 seat stadium through 45,650 stuffed bears on the ice flashes 45,649 and the big one that hadn't carried onto the ice.
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It's just Have you seen that something you have a hat Trick, people.
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They're the hats on the ice.
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And the something around the broom collects the hats.
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Well, the players were not with big garbage bags to collect teddy bear, and then they went the local area hospitals.
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The next day, you jerseys and distribute them, but you have to go out and Google.
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45,000 stuffed animals, right? It's like that's bombs away.
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Obviously, the big news here in New York is you know, Eli gets his ovation.
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Finally, you know, maybe I hope so.
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I kind of hope that that's it.
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You know, he had his moment.
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The fans showed him love.
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He got a win.
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Now, you know, let someone else play quarterback because this is the way I think Eli should go out.
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What do your thoughts on it? We believe that the way it can end any better than that I don't want old church next year are Jack and I don't see him anywhere else.
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The high notes about harmony, Good vibes this last 7 to 10 days of day in any one of these are obviously they're having all the Eagles guys lining up to shake it.
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And after the game last Monday night Football today will create me three interceptions.
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I mean, you know, it was gonna be like, uh, I touched out. Don't worry.
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It was so personally try Kudos.
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They're going to call my time out of the end.
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And everybody loved this party and Olivia there.
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It's a love on sweetie.
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Having Damon smack.
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Cyrus came out this week.
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Michael straight play room it alive by hanging on to let it go.
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Man, you know, games.
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Whenever Danny Jones comes back, I agree.
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And I think I think you like smart enough to realize it as well.
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I think that, you know, this was it.
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Finch showed him the love.
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Let let's step away.
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All right.
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Uh, Kansas City.
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A great game today.
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This is what you want to see out of Kansas City? Er Holmes kind of back and just having fun the way Pat Mahomes does.
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Does this reestablishes win the 23 3 win over Denver? Does this re establish them as one of the main teams to beat now or, you know, are they still know that second tier? Yeah, I mean, I threw in the first year with mingling in Baltimore for 50 cents.
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Scares me.
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I know Denver is a lot better, but they said that a lot of young, both sides, you know, I'm not standing, but your perception of them didn't really change after today's game.
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I still think they're a notch below the Baltimore Ravens, just because even the Baltimore doctor Adam Kaplin this week and I mentioned to me that's so much more rejection and having running expenses were so very good.
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And to me, that's what put a notch in Kansas City.
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Yeah, there are a complete team.
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It's interesting you did throw New England in there.
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I don't think New England's in that top echelon anymore.
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I know.
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Listen, I know until they lose, they're always there.
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But I just don't see it anymore.
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I think they're a team that can definitely be had. I don't see them is invincible.
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They have holes you see as the season wears on the holes.
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So before we let you go, why why do you still think there in that top tier? I think that defense is this could be arguably their best defense.
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That they've had since Bill Belichick's been there, and I still have faith.
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The number 12 man.
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If he has the ball in his hands at the end of the game, she really just kind of throw everything out.
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You know, if you need to five yards on a 35 I still trust Brady and Evelyn over host, you know, quarterback by receiver combinations in the league, and that defense is something that travels.
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So you're gonna have to go on the road on.
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Gilmore is gonna lock down their number one receiver, and I saw them not making the vital mistakes that teams often do in the playoffs when the lights get too big for them.
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So I'm not writing them off a cliff, All right, One last thing before you go.
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I still think Green Bay is a sleeper.
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I love the Packers.
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I mean quietly, 11 and three, and no one talks about them.
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Yeah, and it's their defense.
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I mean, you go out and get his area.
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Smith's impress the Smith.
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They fortified their front seven guys and you know they tripping invested those traffics in the corner back story here.
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Alexander Desmond King.
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I like them to only thing I had them winning the NFC North before.
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This is a lot of people still high on the Bears. I like them.
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And Seattle.
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Those are my He's in the NFC.
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Seattle just going to get better and better.
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Russell Wilson.
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You know it wasn't Mark Jackson, my awesome.
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All right, Jay, we will speak to you in two weeks.
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No show with just the best of next week.
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Yes, Of my son's wedding.
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Thanks for everyone being here.
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We love being.
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Yeah, well, you'll be there, so we'll see everyone in two weeks.
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Eso have a great holiday season.
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Everyone catches back in two weeks.

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The surprising part was that he didn't want to be traded from the Orioles last year to go to Philadelphia, which is only a few miles up the road.
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So it just shows you how Ah, life comes at you fast and the cir***stances change.
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Lastly, before we get to the break your own assessment, it's and the Mets came to some sort of agreement, restructured a contract based on what happened with Cess.
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Pit is we still don't know what happened to his ranch, but obviously he had a except some of the blame, because otherwise he could've fought any reduction that contract.
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So a couple of things on that.
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What do you make of this, which is somewhat unprecedented in major league baseball? And secondly, what do you think? It brings us faras attitude to a guy who at times has had a very strange disposition, you know, around the club, what does this spring when all of a sudden his salary is almost cut in half.
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If and when he shows up the camp well, you're not only with the cut in half this year, but it was cut in half last year.
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So I, uh I'm very shocked at that, because you don't give back money for, ah performance and you don't get no.
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This is what the major League Baseball players union fought for so that players don't have to give money back.
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That that that money that guaranteed.
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So it is.
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It is very surprising to see I'm looking at it a different way.
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I'm thinking that this makes this easier to trade, and I think with the crowded nous in the outfield don't know crowded credit.
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This is not a word.
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But I think with the outfielders that the Mets have, I think it makes successful easier to trade with that would do salary.
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It's under 10 million.
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Maybe Oakland.
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Take a flier on him and he goes back home.
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I've always thought that the Mets would would want him to be somewhere else, and now I think this makes it easier.
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I have a feeling he's getting traded this office again, as it was a clue, but you've got somebody who's missed not only one season but two seasons and has an injury history and has something there and then the world's gonna leak out maybe another month or two months, three months? What really happened last year? What's his value of building happy just to get rid of them, have take months to have somebody take off their hands.
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It's gonna be pennies on the dollar.
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I think it's not gonna be like louvers are.
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This is Cooper.
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Cooper has had more of a history of recent success, even with the time that he missed cess pit, It's like you said, Ah, year and 1/2 he missed.
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At the very least, the Mets did him no favors by pushing them to come back for that one Yankee game before he went out again two years ago.
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So I think just I think the relationship is strained enough that that the Mets would just want to cut ties and maybe get I see.
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I see a Francisco Rodriguez for Danny Herrera type trade happening, and I I hope not, because I'm still assessed for this, Stan, I think so was was a joy to watch and he was a very important cog in those two playoff teams.
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I think without him, then the playoff drought goes back to 2006.
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But I think what? The relationship is strained as it is, I think there's I would put better than even odds that the Mets trade him.
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I hope they don't Also, I am a big cess pits fan.
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I think he lengthens the lineup.
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I think protection for Alonso would be huge, and I think he could only add to what the Mets had going last year.
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So we'll talk more about it as we get closer to spring training.
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I was gonna get to that way, just a little foreshadowing.
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All right, so let's get right into this winter trade meetings, which were a lot more like the eighties and nineties after back to back years of nothing happening in the top players just hanging on the market.
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Free agents Kohl 3 23 124 million With the Yanks Strasburg 245 million re upping with the Nationals.
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Ren don't 245 million with the Angels have already cashed in this winter.
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Why do you think there was such a change in the way that ownership approach these meetings, as opposed to the last two years, where it was crickets, more players in the market? I mean, it was such a great year to be a creation and to be a top end guy because even though the Red Sox and the Cubs, which are two of our bigger market, really are participating in free agency of the big levels, Ah, lot of other teams are always helpful when the Yankees are, and even if there's whisperings with the Mets, that's really helpful.
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The Dodgers, you know, the Dodgers when they were bought by Guggenheim.
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Everyone kind of expected just a lot of money to get thrown at that time, and it really hasn't happened.
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There haven't been big creation expenditures with the Dodgers, but it sounds like they were kind of ready, and they were has been in and conversations of potential free.
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Just the Rangers, who have had a factor last couple of years but I've spent in the past, are ready to spend again and they have kind of put their hat in the ring and made a run it Anthony Rend own and made a run at Zack Wheeler.
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The Chicago White Sox have had a really difficult time the last couple of years trying to give away their money.
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Right there were in on Manny Machado.
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It sounds like they had the biggest offer for Zack Wheeler.
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The Nationals are always out there spending the Braves have money, and they're ready to spend.
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You know, it was frustrating when you're a fan of a team I was going to rebuild cause it's just notes Craig. It's dead quiet.
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There's not a lot going on, but even a couple of those teams, they're starting to come out of the show a little bit, so I don't see it as much.
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So the timing of this whole thing for this 53 agents has just been fantastic.
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When you can have multiple bidders in on your service is from big markets, but you're gonna do well with that being, said, J.
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Martinez didn't opt out and didn't opt out of his contract because he knew there was not going to be multiple suitors for his service is, and so the idea that it is a great market for everybody.
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But it wasn't necessarily position on depending on who you are and that he was God.
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It was not gonna be able to match his current contract, but the other guys were going really well to meet.
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One of the surprises of this whole season is that Scott Boris's gameplan always been to have his guys signed last.
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These guys are signing first this year.
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What do you think prompted the change in his game plan not to wait for everybody else to commence.
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We can squeeze every last dollar and have the mystery teams come in.
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Yeah, Tell you what I think.
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First of all, because a lot of teams were pretty vocal.
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We knew they were going to be in, so they weren't gonna be as many surprises.
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And he had so many pieces to work with you played it beautifully.
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I mean, just the idea of making sure that he got Strasbourg done first and that the Rangers, the Angels, the Dodgers and the Yankees were still available on Cole.
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And then we didn't bring up the Padres.
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The Padres spent the last couple of years, and they'd be willing to stand by.
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I think it's a matter of because he had so many guys because in your teams were really interested in were willing to put that best foot forward early on because they got aggressive early and especially, I think that the national signing Stephen Strasburg first was a big one for Gerrit Cole when he originally said very cold, he was gonna probably wait until January to sign.
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We had heard that only the beginning of the off season, but there's no reason to wait.
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I mean, I know that waiting game happen.
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The bonds are I mean, it's not fun for players to sit around unfunded to get into January or even near the beginning of spring training.
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And even though you know you're gonna get a contract somewhere to not get it done, you know it's so unsettling feeling.
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So it's better for the game.
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I don't know if Rob Bamford said anything about it, but it's certainly better for our fans.
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This has been a much better off season.
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Then years passed.
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Just having a much better idea of kind of warrior teams. They're going what they're doing.
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You can have your fan passed in the other idea that Mike was doctors, that they had already that matters.
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And so I think that teams and agents get together and trying to make it happen or a little bit earlier is nothing but good for the game. Interesting.
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You mentioned Boris A.
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This guy's gonna have a $1,000,000,000 winter piece.
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You know, Miss Takis is also his.
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He still has Kaiko, you and Johannes and play as well on top of the 824 eyes.
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Yeah, I think he's, Ah, sipping margaritas someplace.
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All right, so let's get to the two pitches. Colin Strasburg.
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Huge paydays in terms.
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That's the other thing.
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Extended terms of pictures.
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So we go on and on about ****ytics and cost value.
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So if you d really deep take a deep dive into the numbers you find to this point in his career some of the pictures that Cole is most similar to.
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Chlorine Kubler, Brandon Webb, Stephen Strasburg, Lance Win, Teddy Higuera, Carlos Carrasco and Tanaka.
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Nice pictures, for sure.
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But any cold for me doesn't make the Yankees the instant 2020 world chance.
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A lot can happen to pictures over the course of that contract for me.
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I almost think that the Yankees spent that money so they don't have to face him three times in Siri's to get to the World Series.
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Do you think that money was spent wisely by the Yankees and you take a look at how you know the Rangers were able to get Kluver, who was a very similar picture with not giving up a tremendous amount of assets? Why do you think the Yankees went all in on Cole And he Is he the right guy for that amount of money in that term? Yeah.
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I mean, the money is obviously the biggest that we've ever seen.
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Whether not actually work at works out really depends on health.
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He can't win a World Series by himself, but he certainly is an X factor.
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And he can go up against anybody's face in game.
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Wanna gain five for Game four if you needed to.
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Oh, I think that's part of the reason why in the Yankees also have the issue of potential free agents in Tanaka packed and we'll see what happens with J.
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Happy had a vesting option so their rotation could get really really fast now.
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They could have went out and got guys on shorter term deals, and they could have went Dallas Kaiko Army, maybe Zack Wheeler.
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But again, it goes back to matching up in Game one.
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And do they really have that guy? And they didn't mean knock.
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It could be that guy.
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And he has that guy times, but not Erik Cole.
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I think when you start to look at the comparisons based on what you're talking about, the thing with Jericho you gotta remember is that he's only been this guy for two years.
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When he was in Pittsburgh was good, but he was a guy that you looked at it almost kind of like, Wheeler said.
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Members foreign.
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There is more in now.
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It could get a little more out of him like, you know, and especially number one overall pick.
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You look at him as a manual has good but not great.
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And can he do great and the actual street out a way to get that out of him, right? There's just been in repertory how you use your pitches and a lot of people are wondering, Can Wheeler make that thing kind of jump with the Phillies will see, but they're banking on the guy that has been the last two years.
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So if you were to take the last two years trying to compare, he really doesn't have any Quarterback Justin Verlander is probably pretty close to him, but he's also way younger and so we'll see.
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I mean, that's obviously a huge risk, but it's interesting when you go back and you track.
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I think we feel better about position, player contracts when we go big lack of health and things like that.
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But if you look at some of the biggest contracts and then look at the pictures and how successful the teams have been, especially you're talking about collecting rings.
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The pictures have been much better than the position players.
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It's kind of a fascinating experiment when you go down the line with guys like David Price and others compared to some of those position players and those that have not one ring.
00:12:48
Jeb, despite the fact that I had some of the biggest contract, so if you use the Sabathia contract as the general, how many years do the Yankees have to get out of coal to basically make up what the back end is likely to be.
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Yeah, right.
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So we look at the bathroom.
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A lot of people say I was pretty successful contract, but there was There was a stretch, And I remember my first year of MLB dot com in 13 and just trying to be objective.
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You know, CC is probably like a three or four now.
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And I was working with Pete McCarthy.
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Looked at me sideways.
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Like what? Like that's who he is right now.
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We've got to be honest now.
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He came out of that, right? He went through that little bit alone there near the end of the contract.
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Got it back together at the very end.
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Um and so he kind of, you know, he redeemed himself by kind of reinventing himself a little bit into the factory and has even brought him back after the contract was pretty amazing.
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I don't know if we'll see that necessarily with Jericho, but the ring always helps write a championship, then there.
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But health is the big one, right? He could be healthy.
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Um, you know, I was going to help you for the whole thing from that.
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Sounds like that asking a lot, but you healthy for a bulk of it.
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And he only has a couple of years in there where he doesn't make 30 starts.
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Um, you know, like Mike Messina, Right? Health, for the most part throughout his tenure with the Yankees, but they didn't want a World Series when he was there, so that's a little bit frustrating, but I say was still pretty successful contract for a guy like him.
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But fans want the ring.
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That's all that matters the most.
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And what will be really interesting to be is if you go back to his last year, he was the have his 1009 New York.
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I think it be funded track because you know, he had a four in April, had over a four in May and they lose a game the rest of the year.
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But you saw how Yankee fans treated stand when he first got there, right close authority war.
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It had a good year ban.
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He hit 38 home runs and 100 are guys.
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You were thought it was terrible by the treatment that he got a very interesting to see if I don't know miracles not necessarily a notoriously slow starter, but he got off to a slow start last year and then just dominated the rest of the way.
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But time will tell.
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It's unfortunate, we can't predict, but I think help will be the big one on whether or not we believe this contract will be successful.
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So let's stay on those cops.
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And especially now let's bring in your Texas Ranger hat.
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Um, we talked the cops for Cole to Kluver and Lynn, both members now of the Texas Rangers starting rotation.
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They add that to Mike Minor and Kyle Gibson that they picked up.
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Not a bad rotation, but is it? Does that give them enough now, pitching wise to be able to compete with the Astros, who we really don't know what they're gonna look like this year and the A's and the improved Angels? You know, Ken Texas be a player in that division this year? Or if not, what do they need to be a player? Well, I think they're pitching actually matches up pretty well.
00:15:24
If Cory Clubber is health threat, that the big one, um, of course you miss time.
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Last year, after getting hit with the line drive, and it looks like it's going to come back late August.
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He ended up tweaking an oblique and end up just missing the rest of the season.
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But the good version, the healthy version, Of course, Kruger is pretty special.
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We saw it in the 2016 run when they had that lead, 321 in the World Series, but just what he did, three games to one.
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But what he did throughout that postseason was pretty special, and I've helped you all time.
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I look at that point of his career.
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I mean, he was an absolute warrior similar with C.
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C.
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Sabathia did for the Milwaukee Brewers and pitching on three days rest.
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But they did it much later into the Posies, and I mean, this guy's gonna be dragging the next year.
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And he went out.
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He won the science award next season.
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I mean, this guy's in absolute that I was getting older, and of course you want to be a little bit more careful.
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But he is the kind of guy when he's healthy, they go, uh, Toto, a Justin Verlander.
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And so the idea that you can slide Mike minor down a spot who has been really good in his two years in Texas land.
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Flynn was the bathing last year.
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Um, I think kind of caught a lot of people like surprise, using a lot of fast ball the game has gotten away from.
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He's kind of a throwback in that regard and get deep in the game where we store a lot of pitches.
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But they're pretty people now.
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Call gifts is a good bounce back Canada.
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You know, he wasn't quite himself last year, Um, dealing with some issues with the with the IBF that he had, and he was just kind of, you know, out of gas early.
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But he thinks he got all that behind him.
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So to put him in a four spot, um, is really messing.
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You know, we actually do have some question marks outside of Verlander and cranky the problem.
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Junior will be back.
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We'll see what they do.
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Or Kiki actually made a nice name for himself in the postseason.
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So they got some are they got a really good line up.
00:17:01
So when you're talking about whether the Rangers have to do going forward, if they're going to do anything else.
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They could fill a spot of third center field, her space, maybe catcher.
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And there's There's some spotted that they probably would like to upgrade third base.
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I think we'll still be the focus will see.
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They do have a pretty good hitter and Nick.
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So Lack was more a second baseman in 1/3 baseman, but that they can't get enough grade.
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He'll be the guy, and he'll certainly swing it pretty well.
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So they got some things that, um, they would probably still like to accomplish this.
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It's good that they were in on rundown.
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It's good that they were in on the killer.
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I think it's the fan base.
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Excited to add Cory Kluver, Now fill up the rotation going to a new ballpark next year.
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You know it's coming here.
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They're getting it together, and things will be looking pretty good here.
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For the Rangers were talking with C. J. Nitkowski.
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People, including Met fans, have been critical of the Mets.
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Moves I, for one, love what Brody's done this offseason thus far.
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They were never gonna be in on the big names for the pictures, you know, and they lost Wheeler through a division rival.
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Surely that hurt, but they took care of that in my opinion.
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Hedging that bet last year by getting Strom in ahead of time.
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They had Purcell Oh, and walk at the ed depth to what really was one of baseball's top rotations to begin with.
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Now it allows them to leave luego in the pen.
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What are you thoughts on? What the Mets did? And you know A J is concerned also about Walker because he feels now walk.
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It came here to be a starter.
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He says he doesn't want to go to the pen.
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Now. You had Porcello.
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What does that do? Yeah, so I think first of all of that situation for Michael walkies about that candidate rights.
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We have to have a good spring training.
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He's gonna prove himself.
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There's not a lot risk.
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I think about a $3 million Contracts were not a huge risk here for the Mets.
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They're probably not expecting him to make 30 to start anyway.
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I wouldn't think I mean, they like it, but I don't think that's what being, you know, the anticipation is and you just never dealt.
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But having six basic starters where you want to be, man used a good problem to have If one guy ends up getting bumped to the pen early on.
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You know, that guy's a little bit on happy.
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So they did a really nice job.
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Um, going out that rotation and, like, ****y said leaving Google on descent Leman into the bullpen.
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Right? That's the big one.
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And I know they got some maybe a couple of question marks.
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Um, you know, throughout their defense, in their lineup was a couple there.
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But that they want for me is when I keep saying all offseason, first of all, yes, keeping those guys their health.
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I'd love to see them still go out and had a guy maybe like a will harass or bring back Joseph it.
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That kind of armed and you pulled him because this team cannot afford to have this season and D s and then Wendy s.
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I mean, I just I can't see a scenario in which the wound without those guys contributing, they need to get those guys back on track.
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They need to get Robinson Cano, and also how much more than get out of him. But they need a healthy.
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They need him producing.
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And a lot of what the Mets, um you do comes from within, even though they've added from the outside.
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So I think that open with dictates, you know how their season goes unless it's somebody else's steps up for another signing. Whatever.
00:19:47
Maybe a no Josh haters name is out there as a possible trade candidate, and it sounds like maybe the Yankees are interested in Well, I mean, that help teams will be interested.
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But that could actually match up pretty well with the Brewer.
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So for them, it's about the bullpen, and I know they could still add a tenner field.
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And what do you want to do? This whole cess pit of situation and, you know, even 1/3.
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But I think it's the bullpen and B as in familiar.
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They made big investment there, one via Trade one via creation dollars.
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And it's just gonna be really important that Carlos Beltran staff again.
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I won't went wrong last year.
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I get those guys back on track, so let's start with the S were second, then they keep on coming out.
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Any other Brody the Mets say, Well, if you look at his numbers.
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They really weren't that bad.
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His strikeout numbers were really good.
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He just gave up a lot of home runs.
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But other than that, Mrs Lincoln, how was the play? What do you think they can? They should do to tranq ideas back on track.
00:20:38
Was it just like, you know, Ed Wilson disease? He can't pitch in New York.
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Yeah, I don't think it's that.
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I mean, I don't watch this guy in Seattle quite a bit.
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I want to come through on this guy's unbelievable.
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I remember when they first put him in the closer role come Alexa.
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1,000,000 right? He came through the mileage system as a starter, actually played with familiar very into my career in the minor leagues with the Mets.
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So how special he could be.
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But when they brought him up improvement bullpen.
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Remember thinking that don't make him a closer.
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Make him a guy that you could treat like pretentious right there.
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You could view 75 times have 80 innings.
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You can use them when you're down by a couple up by more than just three.
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But he couldn't do that closer role, which brings you know a little bit of extra added pressure.
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I don't know if it's yours for him.
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You never know.
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With the guy there, the recovery's going always say the right thing.
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Um, I didn't watch him.
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And now this has been really, like, break down.
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What? I saw what was different, But it could hopefully from that transit was just, you know, let me get this year out of my way that things weren't going right.
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Probably a few bad breaks in there as well, but it is encouraging.
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That swing of this rate was still really good. And then they listen.
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That's the right thing for Indusind, Mark.
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And you're gonna get criticized for everything.
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But I want my general manager.
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I want my manager spinning it positive because I don't want anything negative.
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Get back to my players.
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I got enough to fight on their own, their own demons that they don't need.
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And then Sam, they don't need the general manager.
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They don't need the field manager publicly criticizing them. I know.
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I know.
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Terry Collins do once in a while the same kind of like it, um but I think in this day and age where we care about what? How people feel probably more than ever, especially professional athlete spinning positive, even though you know they gotta dig in and find out exactly what went wrong.
00:22:13
You could answer this better than anyone, all right? And this is one of the things, and maybe it's just, you know, throwing you know, darts at a board and trying to come up with a reason why, you know, a lot was made about the baseball and the way that the seams were not raised as much as they had been in the past.
00:22:30
For a guy who relies on his slider and getting that movement on the ball, is it possible that the new ball really affected him? More so than other pictures that maybe don't rely on that brake as much as he did? Could be.
00:22:45
I mean, I think single ball pitches probably got hurt also right.
00:22:48
If you don't have that drag that they were saying, basically, there was less drag on the baseball.
00:22:53
You don't have anything to grab on to the ball and help think, whether it's a two seam fastball changeup, the breaking bottle depends on the grip and sometimes just the guy's hands.
00:23:01
You have two guys that throw a quote unquote slider, but they probably don't throw it the same way.
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And so the baseball could affect that guy one way more than another.
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But definitely something was going on and you had a lot of complaints about the balls feeling harder, feeling more slippery, which is a problem, And it gets in your head, man and the good old U.
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T my math and corn thing if you folks final think about too much, man, I did a lot of bouncing around like crazy.
00:23:24
But every time you go to a new team, you want to make such an impression on that team, especially when you get to do in a big market and one that expects the way like you want to prove you belong, I'm gonna prove to your fans gonna prove it to nature coaches, your front office and things get off to a bad start.
00:23:39
A couple of games go bad early on, man.
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It could be just a runaway train that you can't stop.
00:23:44
It felt like that was a little bit of the case last year with D s.
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I don't know the ball in particular bothered him.
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And based on what we heard about the findings, and we're gonna see changes or anything significant, we'll find out.
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I'm just going up to the mess in spring training and see what's going on with him.
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But I hope not.
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But if it is, you gotta adjust, right.
00:24:01
If there's a handy falls, just a little bit different than perhaps it's an adjustment on that pitch and those of the conversation jihad with coaches, and hopefully they get to the bottom of it before Opening day.
00:24:10
You mentioned its chances before he's been rumored to be interested in a one year deal.
00:24:14
Would it surprise you if he doesn't return to the Yankees, especially with the rumor that they're interested in adding a bullpen arm like Josh Hater? It would not surprise me.
00:24:23
So I think that even though he's a New York guy and it's been incredible to watch to see what he's done in that uniform, he probably would be better off going somewhere else.
00:24:29
In my opinion, couple of reasons, one just, you know, a little bit of, um, maybe less expectations, Although he very welcome little big time contender.
00:24:36
That's asking for a lot like the Dodgers, um, and others.
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The Angels would be really good.
00:24:41
Probably fit for him.
00:24:42
But I think that because that Yankee bullpen E is I mean, you don't know how quickly those guys could end up losing their role.
00:24:48
Only some of the Latino in the post right when this happened before, as good as he wasa.
00:24:53
Soon as I went a little South, somebody else is.
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It just wasn't working out. So you're trying.
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You're gonna find the one year deal and you're gonna do the bounce back and re establish value.
00:25:02
I can't go do it somewhere else I'm trying to do in the National League of Alice him to go to a place and assuming it's multiple opportunities would be fun to check out for a year to get it back together.
00:25:12
You couldn't have going to a team that doesn't content to get traded deadline.
00:25:16
That'll be fun.
00:25:17
Um, and then go.
00:25:18
And if you want to sign with the Yankees next off season, I do it that way.
00:25:20
I think one of the places that might be a very nice landing spot for him and the Phillies and the Phillies have quietly upgraded their team at Joe Girardi is the manager.
00:25:30
They get that front line started and take away from a division rival in Zach Wheeler.
00:25:35
They signed D D Gregorius, which fills one of their holes in the infield.
00:25:38
Add that to what they did last year with Harper and J. T.
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Realmuto and Segura.
00:25:42
The big question for me, I guess, is those area that rebound? And can they compete with a back end of the rotation of Velazquez and eh Flynn with both had, like mid to four, mid 40 are raises that can they compete with those? Two was their back end.
00:25:58
They can if the bullpen is right.
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And that was the same.
00:26:00
Basically question.
00:26:01
We have Flasher about that who was kind of gonna emerge at the at the bottom of rotation.
00:26:06
We saw enough to know that the best version of Arun Ola either, and no doubt that you will be good again.
00:26:11
It seems like a guy that is well on his way to kind of, and you establish himself really kind of taking it to the next level.
00:26:18
Little stumble for him last year so they can hang in there.
00:26:21
There's good rotations.
00:26:22
I mean, you mentioned the Mets.
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They're really good theater.
00:26:25
Lanta, Braves, the Washington National Sofia.
00:26:27
They just turned in rank the rotation.
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They may end up finishing fourth of that group doesn't mean they can't win a division that we go.
00:26:34
The things that the game has shown us, even though we saw a lot of good starting pitchers make a big difference this last postseason.
00:26:40
And we also know you could do it other ways and one of those ways.
00:26:43
If you're a little bit weak at the bottom, maybe you either employ or deploy the opener, which I think you know from Angelo.
00:26:49
If you're in the beginning that I've seen how it's worked out well for the right arm could be able to do it and handle it.
00:26:55
So that's one way you can fill a rotation Spinal, it's not going well or you just cover starters.
00:27:00
I can't go that deep within, which is tough to do over the long haul.
00:27:05
But with the extra man 26 man roster, that helps a little bit if you have the pieces to do it so they don't add anything else in that rotation and they go with those guys at the bottom.
00:27:14
I mean, they're gonna be good, no doubt, but they'll have a chance to win and pitch well if they have the bullpen arms behind those guys staying within that division to me, which is from me.
00:27:24
No doubt it's the most interesting division in baseball.
00:27:27
Washington Nationals.
00:27:28
If you're the GM of the Nationals, would you have put the priority on re signing Strasburg or Rend own? And again, you? You set that up earlier, talking about the big contracts for pictures and how they've led two rings.
00:27:41
But that guy was all world, and I don't know how you let him walk.
00:27:46
May I might have prioritized him.
00:27:48
Which would you have done? Yeah, it's interesting, right, because they basically signed the same contract.
00:27:52
And so you should know what they were in that spot to say.
00:27:54
Do we offer to 45 Stephen Strasburg, or do we offer to Anthony Randall which one to rehab? Which position you have? A better chance? It that feeling.
00:28:02
There's some good third base officers out there, whether free agency, like Josh Donaldson or via trade this a couple of its third.
00:28:08
They weren't gonna be on the coal market.
00:28:10
And you know, Mac Shires.
00:28:11
We're talking about a contract that have worked out well.
00:28:13
It's been great, but he showed some fatigue a little bit there.
00:28:17
I mean, this guy goes hard all the time and we saw in the postseason and he was good.
00:28:21
But you start to wonder, Man, is he really gonna be able to grind out these last two years of this contract and do they need to have a little bit more protection in there? So it's tough because of the year that's Trosper came off.
00:28:32
And also I feel like this is strictly a guess, but it feels like Anthony Randall was a little bit more interested in what the entire market had to offer.
00:28:40
I think he was transferred, was a little bit more interested in getting the best deal he could get to go back to the Washington Nationals.
00:28:45
Very great leverage with the Yankees.
00:28:47
Met with him. Another team certainly would have been interested.
00:28:49
A lot of us thought with the Padres, get in.
00:28:51
Do you want to go home of the San Diego? But he's already moved to stand with D.
00:28:55
C.
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So I think he really wanted to be there, and not that Rend own wouldn't have gone back.
00:28:59
But I think it's one of those things when you start to have those conversations and try to paradise.
00:29:03
Okay, Which one do we want you to know that that's important than anything? Rendering wouldn't want to go back.
00:29:09
I think Steven Tries were probably wanted it a little bit more and it's a winning formula, and they'll try to put somebody else in 1/3 base and go with that really good rotation of pop.
00:29:18
So one of the most interesting stories to come out of the winter meetings was the MLB proposing that it might cut ties with 42 minor league teams after the 2020 season and the P B A expires.
00:29:29
What do you make of the public and kind of contentious way that this back and forth has gone between minor and major league baseball? Yes, it's tough.
00:29:37
I mean, obviously it is starting to get pretty heated right now, and I get caught in the middle because opponent can appreciate where they are.
00:29:45
From a business standpoint, the mileage to be much bigger scope.
00:29:48
Go back to the sixties and how deep the mileage system ran.
00:29:51
And, you know, over time it got a little bit more efficient, got smaller, and now it seems like Major League baseball is interested in doing that again.
00:29:58
Um, you know, you hate to see anybody, any city, especially some of the smaller cities, that they're talking about rookie leagues and short.
00:30:06
There would be potentially losing teams.
00:30:08
But at the same time, you know I got drafted.
00:30:10
There was no limit of trash where we don't know my past story and others that got trapped in the 50th 60th round of late end of becoming big leaguers.
00:30:18
Then they capped the draft of 50 rounds.
00:30:20
Now it's down to 40 right? So it keeps getting smaller and smaller and the idea of being a little more efficient but also upgrading what you're doing.
00:30:28
I kind of like that for the player experience.
00:30:30
Your odds of making it to the big things are really small.
00:30:34
Even once you become a professional, which is tougher than the idea of sticking and making life changing money because he was smaller than so just Is there a better way to do it.
00:30:43
You know, that year that I finished up with the maps in 2012 I think is a good example of why there might be some animosity, right? We see these teams changing all the time.
00:30:52
The Mets were in Buffalo that year in Triple A and remember, finished director and Sandy Alderson and come up to talk to the ownership group in the general manager in Buffalo because they want to make sure that you get that at least signed.
00:31:03
So go back to Buffalo to the devices.
00:31:06
Just weren't interested.
00:31:07
They wanted to move on to another organization, and so you can only go to one of the 30 million.
00:31:12
And the Mets got stuck and I had to go to Las Vegas and I have a Triple A team in Las Vegas.
00:31:16
When you need your like.
00:31:17
That shouldn't happen like that.
00:31:18
That's a problem.
00:31:19
Makes it difficult for a lot of different reasons.
00:31:22
And so there's kind of two sides to it where you know there's a little bit of power there for some of these finally organizations and they'll wield it and they'll put some teams in some really tough spots, which which is not ideal anything.
00:31:32
Major League baseball.
00:31:33
I'm dealing with that power struggle right now.
00:31:36
I don't know.
00:31:37
I the idea of, you know, they take a teen away from Pete Montana in a short season league on what that does to, you know, Major League baseball's marketability in smaller cities have problems, too.
00:31:50
If you go to the whole conversation about the dream with and the idea that will slow, baseball just won't be affiliated with people.
00:31:57
Call it the Dream League, and they'll be a partnership there with Major league baseball and, um, and my only baseball.
00:32:03
But, you know, there's something about being in a city where you have an affiliated team right where you say even know what compute Montana see we have.
00:32:09
We're filling the rights that we got Reds flavor series and almost never gonna make it.
00:32:13
I think there's a draw their, um, that you would move if you ended up going to the dream like so I get both sides of it.
00:32:20
I'd like to see you get work down.
00:32:22
You don't want to see teams go away, but same time, I'd love to see the mileage situation.
00:32:26
Everything else get better including paying the pains on the TV That's not on the Mile reported.
00:32:31
They agree.
00:32:34
I think minor league baseball is essential to a lot of towns and the economy there in the jobs and also for the love of baseball.
00:32:40
That's where the kids are able to go and see it and developed a love for the game all right before we let you go.
00:32:45
C J Not even Christmas yet, but looking forward to 2020 baseball season.
00:32:49
Give me the five top story lines you're most interested seeing play out this season.
00:32:54
My top five without warning that, uh, well, Gary Cole, particularly Yankee pinstripes.
00:33:01
Certainly going to be a lot of fun, the one that discipline whatever comes down here for the Houston Astros going to be a really big story and what that does to the game.
00:33:09
I think they really need to make their mark and make it be known.
00:33:13
The aging inches at the winter meetings, um, pretty contrite, and I think that he knows that the big punishment could be coming.
00:33:21
I'm not the Angels with the money of Spence and then also having the best player in the game of my trout may become a contender that never won a postseason.
00:33:27
Being with my job and having the best player in the way, I think that will certainly be pretty interesting.
00:33:34
One.
00:33:35
I think the rest of this off season with the Dodgers spend.
00:33:37
There's not guys even spend necessarily that huge money on anymore.
00:33:40
And it's been interesting to see, um, you know the way that they've got about they've been consistent.
00:33:45
I said, if you had a choice over the last decade, right in 2010 you're gonna Dodger phone with world Siris appearances and a bunch of division paddles.
00:33:54
Or Kansas City Royals fan in which planet happier, one that has the one ring and run hasn't been good.
00:33:59
I went to one world, lose one another, but then it pretty much went back to how they used to be.
00:34:04
What you want to be a consistent winner with no ranks.
00:34:06
I think the oil fans say we're pretty happy with you out of your oil stand right now.
00:34:10
Um, then the doctor can, at least over those 10 years, which kind of fascinates me, you know, just as far as the way that the whole thing went down and I think the managers of the managers and the way things gonna watching you guys like Carlos Beltran and a lot of people don't know who just finger was that he was a coach with the Rangers so super excited to see him.
00:34:27
I get that opportunity the right now going into 2020 the average tenure of a major league manager to 20200.
00:34:35
4 years.
00:34:37
I mean, it is the amount of turnover that we have had over the last couple of years.
00:34:41
It's just been absolutely amazing.
00:34:43
That number will go up, but the average for these guys holding the job.
00:34:46
We had eight opening, so that brings the number weight down the 2.
00:34:49
4 years.
00:34:50
I mean, that's just incredible to me.
00:34:51
So watching these managers, a lot of young guys, some inexperienced, getting the first opportunity, I think always worth watching as well.
00:35:00
So you always know.
00:35:01
You guessed.
00:35:02
I knew I could give that question and you nailed five without even breaking a sweat.
00:35:06
CJ C J Thanks so much for your time time.
00:35:09
We look forward to touching base with you during the season and is seeing out at the stadiums, and two, Here are your Morning forever MLB Network with Steve Phillips.
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00:35:17
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00:35:19
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It's time now for our NHL report with Russ Cone.
00:36:42
We bring him in, Russ, you know, very strange way, and I just quickly looked up on my television.
00:36:47
I saw the call on the bottom of the screen.
00:36:51
Dallas fires coach.
00:36:52
I said, Oh, finally, the Cowboys did something, but it wasn't the Cowboys.
00:36:56
It's Jim Montgomery.
00:36:57
The guy that was one of the top candidates for the Ranger position gets fired and the Stars, citing unprofessional conduct, is the reason for his dismissal.
00:37:09
Have any more details come out? And were you surprised that Jim Montgomery got fired? I was surprised.
00:37:16
No more details have come out.
00:37:18
Just was, you know, we're all just told that Hey had nothing to do with players past or present, and nothing to do with on the ice or anything with the team.
00:37:27
So that's, you know, that's a little big, vast world of what that could mean.
00:37:32
Otherwise, at some point we'll probably find out.
00:37:34
But you know, right now, whatever he did.
00:37:37
Obviously he's, uh, he's paying the price for interesting because it really sets up a bad, you know, pretty much, uh, not not only an optic, but it's a cloud over the team, as they have no idea why their coach got fired.
00:37:53
I understand, you know, unprofessional.
00:37:55
What was it? What did it have you have a wish from the team knows? Well, obviously, the team knows that's why my plans and I get that there wasn't any transparency, but I think that it all got lawyered up, and I think that was part of the problem.
00:38:10
But again, like John Torchetti just got fired with Monk in in the queue and they gave no details.
00:38:17
So for teams that don't give details, there's gonna be a lot of people digging, digging, digging for a very long time to find out.
00:38:24
And, you know, I'm not a fan of no transparency, but I think in the Stars case didn't have a choice.
00:38:30
But, you know, most of the time you do have a choice of the team started you off of the teams who have made an early season changed, who do you see rallying behind that.
00:38:40
I don't know if anybody's going to rally behind these changes.
00:38:43
I mean, certainly the Devils aren't, uh, I don't think the Sharks have.
00:38:50
I don't know if anybody's going to.
00:38:52
That's the honest thing.
00:38:53
I just I just think they were changes that that get made because it had to be done, and then they sort of look, just look for anything positive.
00:39:02
But I'm not sure anybody you know, getting a big spark out of it.
00:39:06
All right, we talked about the devil's.
00:39:07
We've been talking about tell a whole all season long.
00:39:09
He was a healthy scratch.
00:39:11
The clock is obviously taking, but the longer that this clock ticks longer that he's a healthy scratch on a team that's going nowhere.
00:39:18
The trade value of my opinion just plummets because obviously the yo tell a whole now is being an ends Piquet.
00:39:26
Supan is, well, kind of looked at as almost like clubhouse cancers.
00:39:30
Ah, what is the return for for Attallah Hole at this point, given what's transpired, you know, this season with him? Well, I mean to top prospects didn't play yesterday for, um in the H l for Florida Alexey happen the Emmy and Henrik boards from those two really good players, so with bright careers ahead of them, So I think you would get those players and probably a roster player and our first round pick, Hello is gonna bring a lot.
00:40:01
I don't think I'm not playing is not gonna bring him a lot.
00:40:03
I just think him not playing.
00:40:05
It's just teams don't want him to get hurt.
00:40:07
Two Devils want him out of there and they know he's going to get traded.
00:40:10
But it's not like you can't play.
00:40:11
He just hasn't been playing hard the last couple of weeks.
00:40:14
Suban has a problem because we could see there's a speed problem.
00:40:17
I think he probably didn't train like you should over the summer.
00:40:21
That's my guess, So I'm not sure that he's done eye.
00:40:24
Jinky niece needs to refocus himself, but as far as how they're going to get a lot, but they're trying to get it done before the Christmas freeze, which is soon, which is a couple days from now and so I think it will and that's why I kind of felt for the last couple of weeks like this is heading this way because the team wasn't going anywhere and he want to be there.
00:40:43
Lastly, you know, we made a big deal.
00:40:44
How Kratz off used, is out and went back to the K H.
00:40:47
L looks like he's on his way back to the H l.
00:40:49
How did that old transpire? And is that a good thing to happen back here in the H l? Well, what apparently happened was he, you know, he wasn't doing well with the K H L Club was not a great club, so they sent him down to the the NHL, You know, the junior system.
00:41:05
And he's already been in a junior system, so he didn't really want to be there, so they tried to trade them, and they said nobody wanted him, but that's probably because they all knew he was gonna probably go back to North America anyhow, at some point.
00:41:17
So teams aren't gonna give up much an asset form, So nobody wanted him, so he came back.
00:41:21
So now he'll probably have to deal with being in Hartford.
00:41:25
I think it's good.
00:41:27
I just hope that he doesn't pout and sort of, you know, get everything straight and rooms with us, Eric, and get going because, you know, that's the best thing that could happen for him and the Rangers at this point.
00:41:41
All right, Russ, Thanks so much.
00:41:42
Russ Cone.
00:41:43
Okay, over here each and every week with the NHL report, we turn our attention from the ice to the hardwood with bringing the time Tauber and, uh, you know tomorrow, eh? Line from Godfather.
00:41:53
I think it was three.
00:41:54
Just when mellow.
00:41:56
Just one mellow.
00:41:57
No, just out of mellow.
00:42:00
He pulls me back in this week.
00:42:04
Carmelo Anthony actually said that he would like his uniform number retired by the Knicks.
00:42:11
So I am.
00:42:12
I know this is your favorite topic, you know? Should Carmelo Anthony's number be retired by the New York Knicks.
00:42:20
Um, first of all, it's an interesting question because from a numbers standpoint, from a face of the franchise standpoint, if you look at how long he actually was with the Knicks, if you look at the numbers he put up, if you look at what a critical role he played and just what was in absolute a bit for the franchise, you know, driving them to a 50 win season into a playoff, the only playoff appearance they've had.
00:42:50
Um, you could make an argument for it.
00:42:53
Honestly, if you were it, you were to put together a statistically speaking, a list of the top Knicks of all time.
00:43:00
Carmelo Anthony, surprisingly, belongs in the conversation.
00:43:04
It's weird you're not typically associated with that kind of neck.
00:43:06
He's on a lifelong Nick.
00:43:07
He was a well established nugget first scoring leader.
00:43:10
All that, um, I'm the other hand.
00:43:14
It just doesn't add up. Nick Capsule.
00:43:16
Do you really want to memorialize memory? I mean, what exactly, you know, in a town that prides itself on a town with the Yankees and the Islanders winning four straight in the 94 Forever championship? Do you really wanna memorialize or commemorate mediocrity and a good score in that, um, for me, it's a past, so I can certainly hear the argument more than I accepted that.
00:43:40
When looking at the numbers put, put him comparison to Bernard King.
00:43:45
Yeah, how would you control, don't you that that's the regular comparison that he always comparison? Um, Mello was actually did it for longer mellows playing in a different league, obviously.
00:43:57
So the offensive numbers.
00:43:58
We're gonna be better.
00:44:00
They just are.
00:44:01
Bernard, although in an abbreviated run of dominance, was probably more dominant.
00:44:06
Bernard, when he was with the Knicks, had a Sandy, Koufax like trajectory where it was a very brief, very short, Um, I guess shooting star, if you will, and that it was brief.
00:44:18
But Moon was he'd element when he was here.
00:44:21
It just it never amounted to what it should have any kind of.
00:44:25
He bridged the gap from the Knicks to the perpetual playoff 96.
00:44:31
I mean, he just missed Patrick.
00:44:33
He just missed Mark Jackson.
00:44:34
He just missed that heyday.
00:44:36
Um, Carmelo Anthony.
00:44:38
He was just it.
00:44:40
That was all that was there.
00:44:41
Um, So in terms of how Nick stands and I remember that I think there are Bernard is always going to be remembered more fondly.
00:44:50
It wasn't this period of next basketball as faras players.
00:44:54
I mean, that's the regular comparison.
00:44:56
Bernard and Mellow.
00:44:58
Mellow is the more gifted scorer.
00:45:00
I think in terms of more versatile and can do more things.
00:45:03
Bernard was more dominant for his time, So the thing you never thought you'd say the Knicks have won two in a row go for three in a row.
00:45:09
Tonight is an indication just how bad the opposition was or they sort of.
00:45:14
They found a little spark of something.
00:45:17
I think it's a little both, um, they Even before coach says that was out, They found that competitiveness.
00:45:26
They were pushing us to the brink and ever coming up just short.
00:45:29
Um, yeah, they hit the soft spot on schedule and it certainly helping things.
00:45:33
I think that as trade rumors start to swirl as pieces of those veteran pieces who are just one year deals, maybe start seeing some roster changes, I think they're gonna fall right back to where they have been.
00:45:44
The Golden State's the only team in the league that's worse than them.
00:45:47
It Sacramento.
00:45:48
I mean, there was a great match was a great win for them, but again, that's not an upper echelon team.
00:45:53
That's a team that they kind of caught on a bad night and they played out of their minds.
00:45:58
You're not typically expecting 37 out of markets.
00:46:01
Morris.
00:46:02
You don't expect in the next to play like that.
00:46:03
I think that that was It's been a nice run.
00:46:06
I don't expect it to be stained.
00:46:08
I wanted to ask about the Warriors and their first toe worst.
00:46:12
It's not so unexpected because of Katie's departure and Thompson's injury.
00:46:16
But do you see them now? And Steph Curry? But do you see them? Is not being just in that like middle eighth or ninth seed.
00:46:23
But being fully down at the bottom of the league is a way for them to actually gain some talent where they've always Do you think this is what's going to infuriate an entire generation of N BA fans who don't remember the Spurs the end of the nineties? This is that Tim Duncan scenario.
00:46:37
This is a team that has their star has everything they have been kind of fading out, fizzling out on the back nine.
00:46:45
Um, and then injuries just propel them right into the top of the draft class, and the Empire lives again.
00:46:52
The Golden State Warriors.
00:46:55
They're missing anything that the dominant big stretch five somebody who could do the same with Anthony Davis is doing out in Los Angeles.
00:47:01
They're in prime position to get themselves James Wise, and they are in great visit and then you have playback and you have stepped back and you have dream on again and the evil empire lives again.
00:47:14
I don't know if that's copywriter.
00:47:15
I'm living Deal.
00:47:16
Oh, um, sorry.
00:47:18
Do you see them moving? Deal.
00:47:19
Oh, at some point, I don't know if that's gonna be this season.
00:47:23
I don't know what the long term plans are.
00:47:25
I don't think he's going to be, um, with what I expect to be the next run of warrior greatness.
00:47:32
I'm not sure if it's a movie that necessarily do at this headlong or something, the way to the off season, but I don't think he's part of a long term plan.
00:47:39
All right, I am Thanks so much.
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Three years ago, you launch a Chem three Bruno LLC for the sole purpose of producing a feature do***entary film on the life of Bruno Sammartino.
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What's the motivation for you to get into film and why Bruno is your first project? You know, I think it's probably more about Bruno than it is getting into film.
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And, um, uh, Daryl can talk about his dad better than I can.
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But I think once you get to know, Bruno and I became friends with Bruno, um, several years ago and we learned of his story.
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And friends of our started the process of a man by the name of Marty Lazaro, very good friend with Bruno, traveled over the pizza Perata in 2010 and started filming the story, um, myself and Larry Richard, who's the executive producer and also went on that 2010 trip, too.
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Pizza. Perata.
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Um, we came in and in, uh uh, several years after that, after they had the original filming, and it was very rough.
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And, um It was just kind of sitting there.
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And so we invested into, uh, to take it to the next level was to get it professionally done and to get the story, Uh, which is Bruno story out to the public? Darryl.
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I find it ironic that the same month two films open about iconic Pittsburgh residents Mr Rogers and your Dad.
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There's a scene in the film, a beautiful day in the neighborhood where the interviewer asked Tom Hanks, who plays Fred Rogers, what his kids would say about him as a dad.
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Your dad was a hero to so many people.
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What was he like as a dad? And was it tough for you to have to share him with the world? You know what? I get that question a lot on, uh, my dad was just my dad, You know what I mean? Uh, you know, he had a different type of job, but he was just still bad, you know? So, uh, for sharing him around the world.
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I really got to see that because I traveled with him all around the world, and, uh, it's just a respect factor, you know that.
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I really appreciate it.
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and and I was saving others in all watching it.
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You know what? He was just at us, you know? So this is actually for Michael, the third do***entary about murder, Mr Martino, There's one that was done by, of all people, George Romero.
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With the night of the living dead, there's a Siris on sports legends in the Pittsburgh area.
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Then there's one that Bruno actually did.
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I think of 2006 that ran two and 1/2 hours.
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So how much either one of those influences for this do***entary.
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And what do you want? Did you want to make this one different from the others? I think what makes this one different from the others is this is Bruno story.
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Um, Why he wasn't alive when we when we released it, Um, he was alive when we had the very rough but done.
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And he and Darryl's mother, Carol a cz well, as Darryl, uh, saw the saw the film understood the story.
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Many of Bruno's family members are in the story, and it's a story that he wanted to tell.
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So I think that, um uh is really the difference.
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Ah, in that do***entary versus the others that you mentioned, and I think also, um, and again Darryl can talk to this a little bit as well.
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Um, it really is Bruno's life story.
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It's not his wrestling story.
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It's ah, it's an immigration story for the ages, Um, and it's really a lot about his mother as well.
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With Bruno's hero, I had a great influence over his wife.
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No, Darryl.
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I mentioned that Pittsburgh connection.
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But New York has a very strong connection to Bruno's.
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Well, just eight days after the official opening of Madison Square Garden, widely considered that point the mecca of pro wrestling, your dad headline the first wrestling show the Guard never hosted as the marquee attraction and centerpiece of Vincent with seniors Northeast Territory.
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Bruno sold out Madison Square Garden more than any wrestler in history, and for a time, Madison Square Garden was actually known as the House that Bruno Belt.
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What's your earliest recollection of your dad and the love affair New York fans had with him? Well, I traveled with my dad.
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You know what? We went to New York when he got in the Hall of Fame in 2000.
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That's the only time I was ever in New York with my dad, but I would go to the Phillies spectrum when I was a kid.
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I went to Boston Garden and I would see you know, I was sitting in the stands.
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20,000 people change his name, so it just wasn't New York.
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It was basically the, you know, the whole East Coast, and it's kind of weird sitting there, and all of a sudden, you know, you got 20,000 people change.
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Your dad's name is kind of weird as a kid.
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Yeah, Michael, you mentioned that.
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It's also it's more than just wrestling.
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And it is because, you know, it talks about how Bruno came here after you fought off rheumatic fever, you know, Before World War two ended, his mother nursed him back to health after doctors told her that her youngest son had only a day or two to live.
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You're so sickly that it took nearly three years before medical authorities would clear him to travel on reunite here with his dad.
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At that point, he's drawn to Jim and weightlifting.
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Within 10 years, the proverbial £98 weakling bulked up both himself up to a £275 powerhouse would be considered one of the strongest men on the planet.
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He was an inspiration to a man who inducted him into the Hall of Fame in 2013 and that's Arnold Schwarzenegger.
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Clearly, they had a close relationship with the Italian superhero.
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What is Arnold's role in the do***entary and how much of Arnold's love comes through in the areas that he talks about? Bruno in the film? You know, I think our dancers the second part of questions first, um, um, I think a lot of what Arnold said is is just true admiration, respect and friendship with Bruno Sammartino.
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Uh, So, um, we asked Arnold, Larry Richard, our executive producer, approached him about doing the forward, and, uh, Arnold was honored to do it.
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And, uh, you know the interesting story to back in 2013 when Bruno was inducted into the W.
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W E Hall of Fame, Arnold played a part in introducing him for the Hall of Fame, and he was on a set all the way in California, uh, and flew there just that, just just across the country, just to be there to make sure that he could introduce Bruno into the W W E all fame.
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And I think that right there, uh, probably is a referendum on what Arnold thinks of Bruno Sammartino.
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So if you take a look at Bruno's career, he had his ups and downs and falling outs with the Minuteman is W E and the end, largely because of steroids.
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He was a big spokesman against use of steroids by athletes.
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How much do you hit on that in the film? How important is that? And Daryl, how important is that? What you think is Bruno's legacy.
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Uh, Michael, you want to go where you want me to go? Yeah, well, I'll answer the first question that the, um, agent Mark, the film really doesn't address that at all.
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Um um, But, um, Bruno was a very, very principled man.
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Um, and, uh, r r r team in terms of Marty and Larry and others were instrumental in, um, having Bruno get back with the W w e.
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And we're very grateful for the W w e.
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Both for their support of Bruno and for recognizing bro known inducting him into the Hall of Fame in 2013 Michael Sena's also featured in the do***entary, and I know that the W. W.
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Is very protective over his brand.
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How involved were they? And how much did that 2000 reconciliate 2013 Reconciliation help in getting them to allow guys like Michael Sena and some of the former wrestlers from the W W E.
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To be part of this project? You know, I really don't have a knowledge on the depth of that.
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I don't know if, uh, Gerald does or not.
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So I'm sorry that I can't answer that.
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Ah, little bit more in detail.
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So, Darryl, uh, you know, let's if you can speak to that.
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You know how instrumental was at reconciliation to allowing guys to be part of this project? It was It was, you know, huge.
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Uh, Paul Levesque.
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Notice. Triple H.
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Hate contact my dad.
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Probably a year, Like in 2012.
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Guys, I was asking, you know, asking when dad, please.
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You know, we made a lot of changes.
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No.
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Would you please come into the Hall of Fame? And and, you know, my dad had a good friend named Dr Joseph Maroon, who's also a doctor for the Steelers but he's also a doctor for W W E.
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And they do a lot of ah, you know, they do a lot of non rugs, you know, as Faras.
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You know, as far as a drug testing they.
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I mean, it's a legit legit, you know, business now, as far as the drug testing and that sort of thing, it wasn't always like that.
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So my dad saw these changes.
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He saw there was no more profanity and nudity and vulgarity on their show, and he thought, Well, they've made the proper changes.
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So I'm okay with that.
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No, I think I'm gonna go in and that's what happened.
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W W could have been nicer with my dad, our family, and I think it was a win win for both sides.
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Michael.
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What many people don't remember is, according to Sports Illustrated Bruno, Willie Mays and ****ey Mantle, with a top paid athletes of the 19 sixties, wrestling in the early days was much watch TV, and Bruno was a superstar of the medium.
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Can you put into context for our listeners what TV meant to wrestling? And how Bruno became the face of wrestling? You know, I think at that point in time.
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Um, uh, television was very, very instrumental in, um, kind of heightening the popularity of rustling.
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Um, you know, a lot of it was done, and, you know, outside of the big, big events in minutes from square Garden, one of the other bouts were done in more smaller arenas.
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And it gave more people access to the, uh, to the sport, and Bruno just personified.
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Um, sport, um a with this raw strength and be just what? The kind of character waas you know? You know, Bruno is ah, a bad ass in the ring, but outside of the ring, he was humble and genuine, and, uh, his mother and father raised a darn good kid.
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They're only know your dad had reservations about your brother David becoming a wrestler.
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So a few questions here.
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Did you ever want to be arrested as well? And how did your brother's relationship changed with your dad over the years? Well, I really did not want Oh, uh, the special wrestler I got in tow law enforcement that my career, uh, in my dad wanted us all to go to college as faras uh, David getting interesting.
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My dad really didn't want that.
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And, uh, my dad kind of sentiment that Thomas and territories were he would was hopeful that David would actually quit.
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David didn't quit.
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And, uh, you know, he was a grown man, and he still wanna wrestle.
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And what you gonna do? So he wrestled in, You know, uh, you know is what it is.
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Michael.
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Live in advance screenings of Bruno Sammartino at the Cinema Village Theater here in New York and in the ah Monica Film Center in Santa Monica, California.
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How did those screenings go on? What's what in the audience reaction thus far to the film, You know, we've had we've had We've had some pretty good reaction from people that we met Daryl and our executive producer, Larry.
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We're in New York.
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Um, uh um, just right before Excuse me right after the Thanksgiving holiday on.
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Then went out to, uh l A.
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As well, um, and and we you know, we put the film out because it was ready to go.
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Um, we're working with a, uh, broker in the distribution business.
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Um, and we're starting those efforts.
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Uh, right now we're working with a guy by the name of Glen Reynolds from Circus Road Films.
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And the idea was to get it out for two reasons.
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That the Thanksgiving Week one was it qualified for us Thio to be considered in concert and, uh, and submit which we did for an Academy Award.
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I think right now we're one of 100 and 60 do***entaries that air considered.
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And I think sometime next week, the academy narrows down down to 15.
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Don't know if we'll make that cut or not, but it also kind of grease the skids for our distributor partners to go out and start Thio.
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Uh um, uh, make some noise about the film.
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Um, we're planning right now.
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We don't have a date yet, but we're doing a We're planning a premier gala in Pittsburgh for the spring.
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Were targeting and looking at some dates in in April right now.
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And that gala will, um, will also benefit the foundation that our group set up for, um Bruno, which is the Bruno and Carol San Martino Foundation.
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So, uh, we're excited about that.
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Their mission is to help provide folks of food, shelter and service is to use their burdens of life's basic necessities there.
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What was your reaction to seeing the film for the first time? And what's the biggest thing you want? Fans of your dad or people who may be only finding about about Bruno for the first time? What do you want them to take away from the film? Well, I want them to see that, you know? Yeah, my dad was arrested, but again, like Michael said, it's not really about wrestling, about the love that he had and expect that he had for his mother.
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And like when Dad would always say, you know, his mother basically brought him back to life and my dad always wanted make her proud and, uh, you know, and just do good things, positive things.
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So, you know, his mother, my grandmother would feel very, very, you know, happy how everything turned out.
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And, you know, here he is with rheumatic fever.
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As a kid, you know, they had to put leeches.
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My grandmother put leeches all over.
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The theory was to suck out all the poison blood, and then all of a sudden, he's the world's strongest man.
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So, uh, you know, the movie basically shows, you know, that my dad, you know his His mom was a zero.
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And if it wasn't for her, nobody would ever heard of burning. Say, Martineau.
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Michael, if I If I may just anecdotally, if I could add onto what Daryl said a couple years ago and we showed the rough cut, Um, a neighbor of ours and Darryl, I think you were at my house that night, too.
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And we did that, um, screening 85 year old time when these guy and he had, uh, had been in a dinner about two months before that we had with Bruno and some of our partners and um him and immigrated to the United States.
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He was a horde Ecologist for Penn State University and then moved down the Pittsburgh area.
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So he's watching the film with us at the at the end of the film and against his rough cut.
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He gets up and he's crying, and he's crying because the immigration story of Bruno Sammartino Excuse me, Bruno Sammartino reminded him of all the impediments and all but all the trouble that he had in his life immigrating to the United States and so an adult cle.
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The film is a little bit about that as well.
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It's really an immigration story for the ages, Michael.
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Thanks so much time for your time tonight.
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Where's the best place for people to find out about release dates and when it will be airing in their area? Right now, it's just a landing page.
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But, um Bruno Sammartino doc dot com And that's a That's a tongue twister to say that, but it's got the trailer on it right now, and we'll be populating with release states and, uh uh, more information about distribution, too, as we go through that process over the next several weeks.
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Awesome, Daryl.
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Thanks a swell for coming on.
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And more importantly, I want you to know that Bruno Sammartino was one of the first sports bonding moments I had with my grandfather, who was 71 at the time.
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He was a huge wrestling fan.
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I was six or seven.
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It was 1967.
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He was staying over a house and he was a huge wrestling fan, and he would go on and on and on about how great Bruno Sammartino Waas.
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And it was a moment that I'll never forget.
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And for that reason alone, you're that has always been my favorite wrestler.
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So I wanted you to know that. And thank you for that.
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No, thank you.
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I appreciate that.
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That's very nice.
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Thank you.
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Thank you very much for having us Mark and and, uh, for allowing us talk about the the film.
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And it's obvious you're your familiarity with Bruno in your fans.
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So, uh, really appreciate your time.
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We appreciate you coming on in A.
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J.
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And I are looking forward to seeing the film for sure.
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Thanks so much.
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All right. Have a nice evening.
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Obviously, the big news here in New York is you know, Eli gets his ovation.
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Finally, you know, maybe I hope so.
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I kind of hope that that's it.
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You know, he had his moment.
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The fans showed him love.
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He got a win.
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Now, you know, let someone else play quarterback because this is the way I think Eli should go out.
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What do your thoughts on it? We believe that the way it can end any better than that I don't want old church next year are Jack and I don't see him anywhere else.
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The high notes about harmony, Good vibes this last 7 to 10 days of day in any one of these are obviously they're having all the Eagles guys lining up to shake it.
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And after the game last Monday night Football today will create me three interceptions.
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I mean, you know, it was gonna be like, uh, I touched out. Don't worry.
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Man, you know, games.
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Whenever Danny Jones comes back, I agree.
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And I think I think you like smart enough to realize it as well.
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I think that, you know, this was it.
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All right.
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Uh, Kansas City.
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A great game today.
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This is what you want to see out of Kansas City? Er Holmes kind of back and just having fun the way Pat Mahomes does.
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Does this reestablishes win the 23 3 win over Denver? Does this re establish them as one of the main teams to beat now or, you know, are they still know that second tier? Yeah, I mean, I threw in the first year with mingling in Baltimore for 50 cents.
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Scares me.
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I know Denver is a lot better, but they said that a lot of young, both sides, you know, I'm not standing, but your perception of them didn't really change after today's game.
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I still think they're a notch below the Baltimore Ravens, just because even the Baltimore doctor Adam Kaplin this week and I mentioned to me that's so much more rejection and having running expenses were so very good.
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And to me, that's what put a notch in Kansas City.
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Yeah, there are a complete team.
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It's interesting you did throw New England in there.
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I don't think New England's in that top echelon anymore.
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I know.
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Listen, I know until they lose, they're always there.
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But I just don't see it anymore.
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I think they're a team that can definitely be had. I don't see them is invincible.
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They have holes you see as the season wears on the holes.
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So before we let you go, why why do you still think there in that top tier? I think that defense is this could be arguably their best defense.
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That they've had since Bill Belichick's been there, and I still have faith.
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If he has the ball in his hands at the end of the game, she really just kind of throw everything out.
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You know, if you need to five yards on a 35 I still trust Brady and Evelyn over host, you know, quarterback by receiver combinations in the league, and that defense is something that travels.
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So you're gonna have to go on the road on.
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Gilmore is gonna lock down their number one receiver, and I saw them not making the vital mistakes that teams often do in the playoffs when the lights get too big for them.
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So I'm not writing them off a cliff, All right, One last thing before you go.
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I still think Green Bay is a sleeper.
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I love the Packers.
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I mean quietly, 11 and three, and no one talks about them.
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Yeah, and it's their defense.
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I mean, you go out and get his area.
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Smith's impress the Smith.
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They fortified their front seven guys and you know they tripping invested those traffics in the corner back story here.
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Alexander Desmond King.
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I like them to only thing I had them winning the NFC North before.
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This is a lot of people still high on the Bears. I like them.
01:20:21
And Seattle.
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Those are my He's in the NFC.
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Seattle just going to get better and better.
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Russell Wilson.
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You know it wasn't Mark Jackson, my awesome.
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All right, Jay, we will speak to you in two weeks.
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No show with just the best of next week.
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Yes, Of my son's wedding.
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We love being.
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Eso have a great holiday season.
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