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00:00:23
you always take a win is you can get on.
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But I mean, when I was watching it when they were up after the first quarter, 26 to 9, I'm like, all right, they're gonna win by 20.
00:00:30
Obviously, that didn't happen.
00:00:32
Pretty ugly quarters in the in the second and third, especially the turnovers that they were having making it kind of really easy for Orlando to get back in the game.
00:00:39
It's not like Orlando was playing suffocating defense or are, you know, completely shutting down the Lakers.
00:00:44
It was just dumb mistakes that allowed Orlando back in the game.
00:00:47
But then again, they did what a championship team does at the end.
00:00:50
They put their foot down and ended up getting a nine point win.
00:00:53
The you know, the score wasn't really in doubt.
00:00:55
It will last for five minutes.
00:00:56
So, um, again, first game of a road trip.
00:00:58
They kind of had a weird schedule their last week when they played three and four nights and then three and four nights again and then came home for wayward.
00:01:04
Just a weird kind of travel things.
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So maybe maybe that played a factor into it.
00:01:07
But 22 country.
00:01:08
I don't I don't think you can complain about that at this point.
00:01:21
Yeah.
00:01:38
At one point in the in the third quarter, where they started making that run, I mean, it was a little bit like, Oh, man, this is gonna turn into, like, a nail biter of the game because, you know, we talked about it before.
00:01:46
Lando's been a bit of a house of horrors for the Lakers over the last few seasons, but, uh, no to me.
00:01:52
I mean, I got into the fourth quarter and LeBron kind of started imposing his will on the game.
00:01:55
He finished with a triple double again, I kind of just looked like to me that that I don't think if the game was like the game was close, but especially in that in that third and early in the fourth.
00:02:04
But to me, I didn't really feel like they were gonna lose.
00:02:06
Why? What about you? Where you kind of you looking at that point That they might end up, end up getting offended in this one? Yeah.
00:02:33
What do you think? The reason is that Orlando like to me? Oh, just sloppy play.
00:02:36
And they almost seemed like they were intense, and they were all about the defense in the in the first quarter.
00:02:41
I think the magic ended up shooting 19% in the first quarter or 20% and then they ended up, you know, kind of just getting back in on that 11 to run early in the second, just strictly off off a bad and sloppy play.
00:02:52
So for me, I mean, I just look at it like it was almost a switch that they had to turn back on in the fourth.
00:02:57
Why do you think, Orlando, what do the Lakers did wrong that led Orlando back into the game? You know, I felt like and by the way, guys, hopefully I know I was I guess I was having some some audio issues there.
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So those you in the live chat, let me know if, ah, if I got better here.
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So hopefully that's Ah, that's fixed there.
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I had to guess an issue with my side of it, but it looks like to me I'm getting a good reading now, so hopefully that's all good.
00:03:19
But anyway, this was something where I thought that that the Lakers just kind of took their foot off the gas a little bit.
00:03:25
I mean, the magic only put up nine points in the first quarter, and so the Lakers were able to kind of take a little bit of, ah, arrest.
00:03:32
It was like they kind of thought, Okay, this thing is over.
00:03:35
And the magic, they weren't they were ready to go away. They came roaring back.
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And so that was That was an issue.
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Apparently I'm getting confirmation here by sound is now good.
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So glad Glad that it was fixed.
00:03:47
Guys, I appreciate you guys hopping in there and let me know that my son wasn't coming through Look good on my end, but again, Thanks everybody in the chat for saving us, They're so jazz.
00:03:57
Look overall. Yeah.
00:03:58
Look, I thought this was one of those games where they took their foot off the gas and we've seen this quite a bit, but then they were missing shots, and part of that is we have to give credit to their land of defense because they have these long, lanky defenders.
00:04:08
Guys like Jonathan Isaac, guys like Aaron Gordon and players like that.
00:04:11
Obama certainly, and they were doing some things to make things tough on the Lakers.
00:04:15
But the same time I felt like they were just missing some open shots.
00:04:19
And because of that, they left the door open for the Magic.
00:04:21
Come back if it was a different team.
00:04:23
If it was a better team, the Lakers probably lose that game the way they played.
00:04:27
Yeah, they play the way they do.
00:04:28
They did today against Miami in Miami on on Friday.
00:04:31
They're gonna lose to do a very, very good hit squad, and I almost looking at you mean everything was just a struggle for them Offensively.
00:04:37
Anthony Davis, 6 20 from the field.
00:04:40
LeBron James shot below below 50% and then I also look at it as a team 10 of 19 from the line you had for five more.
00:04:46
You know what I mean? That stretches that lead just that much.
00:04:49
You know, in terms of being a nine point game, it's a 14 15 point game, so I just think all around it was just kind of a weird offensive performance.
00:04:55
I think that that is ah, mix of missing easy shots you mentioned during the game.
00:04:59
LeBron looked like every layup he was taken.
00:05:01
It was kind of ripping out funny and just not getting not falling down.
00:05:05
And then you look at the rest of Anthony Davis.
00:05:07
You look at his shot chart, you know what I mean? Settling for jumpers to and then the turnover.
00:05:10
So I think defensively, obviously, any time to give up 87 points, you give up nine and 1/4.
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You already did something right conservatively.
00:05:17
But offensively, I think this game was just sloppy.
00:05:20
And it was just one of those games that they had, but again credit to the Lakers because they were able to actually still pull it out.
00:05:25
But like you mentioned, Yeah, you can't get away with the performance like this against Miami against Milwaukee against the Clippers.
00:05:31
You're gonna get we're gonna lose by 20 on nights like that.
00:05:34
Well, maybe that's part of the reason why we saw this performance is the Lakers won.
00:05:37
Okay, we've got this one.
00:05:38
It's Orlando.
00:05:39
They're not coming back.
00:05:40
Where's against Milwaukee? The focus is probably there.
00:05:42
And then I guess that's really what it comes down to.
00:05:44
It felt like their focus just slipped.
00:05:46
And you know what Anthony Davis did not have a great game. I mean, look.
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The shooting wise, right? 12 boards.
00:05:51
Six. It says two steals, two blocks.
00:05:53
Certainly take that 16 points, Okay, but six of 20 from the field.
00:05:57
I thought that we saw kind of a settling Anthony Davis again tonight, a guy who was was settling for a few, the turnaround jumpers that he had done a pretty good job in the last few weeks of eliminating from his game.
00:06:07
We saw those creep back in was it didn't seem to be attacking the basket quite as much.
00:06:11
And maybe that's because he knew there was so much rim protection there for Orlando, but still just a rough outing for him.
00:06:16
And when you've got that and then LeBron James only shooting 11 for 24 missing a lot of shots like you mentioned some of the layups rolling out of the basket, it created a much closer game that I think we should have seen.
00:06:27
And like we said, you know, 96 to 87 this Lakers team dropped 100 140 something the other night.
00:06:33
This was an ugly performance.
00:06:35
It wasn't pretty, but again, end of the day 22 3 now, Yeah, that's what you take at the end of it.
00:06:42
It's not like again.
00:06:44
We're judging this team on different expectations and what we're looking at at last season, right? So right now you're gonna look at this and say, All right, They've won 22 out of 25 games.
00:06:52
They're forced to be on pace to be 44 6 at the 50 game work.
00:06:55
That's insane.
00:06:56
And when you were watching it, too, and you mentioned Anthony Davis, he's at his best when he's getting to the free throw line.
00:07:02
He's at his best when he's shooting 10 15 20 free throws because that shows he's being aggressive.
00:07:06
And like I mentioned, if you check out his shot chart, you'll see a lot of his Mrs King from outside get 13 today.
00:07:12
One jumper, but the 45 degree there at the at the elbow just extended.
00:07:16
But other than that, I mean, he wasn't We just wasn't a factor with it.
00:07:19
And I agree with you.
00:07:20
Yeah, the rim protection for Lando is pretty **** good, but at the same time, you want to see you get some of those guys in the foul trouble.
00:07:26
And if Anthony Davis is able to get to the rim and the defense does collapse down on him, he could be able to kick it out for some more open shots.
00:07:33
Guys, that KCP, who was hitting today and played, played pretty well, had to hit a couple of big shots or that before seven from beyond the arc.
00:07:38
So you want to get those guys going, you can, too.
00:07:41
But I think that's gonna be a key for the Lakers, especially against the championship teams.
00:07:44
Is making sure 80 has been aggressive.
00:07:46
Yeah, I agree that you need that aggressive Anthony Davis.
00:07:49
And look, this is probably just an off night for him, right? Because we've seen him.
00:07:52
He's the rating player of the week.
00:07:54
We've seen him play much better.
00:07:55
So one night, Okay, that's fine.
00:07:56
Now let's see what he does the next outing coming up against the Miami Heat.
00:07:59
That's gonna be important for them now.
00:08:01
When we look at this game, too, and you talk about KCP, he stepped up and made some big shots.
00:08:06
KCP is probably thinking, man, I better start hit some shots because Avery Bradley is back and he's going to try to try to take my job here.
00:08:13
So K C P.
00:08:14
5 to 10 shooting four of seven from three that the Lakers did a really nice job getting him open, looks from the short corner and then letting him cast away from there.
00:08:21
And KCP did a nice job knocking down 15 points.
00:08:24
Tonight was pretty big part of the wind.
00:08:26
Jared Dudley three for four before getting kicked out of the game.
00:08:30
He pushed the entire Orlando team and one shove before the before the season started on Media Day.
00:08:36
Jared Dudley's I'm paraphrasing but basically said he's ready to pay the fine.
00:08:39
If anybody steps up to any of the Lakers players, especially LeBron or a D, he's gonna be that guy jumping in there.
00:08:45
And sure enough, the Magic started pushing around Dwight Howard in came Jared Dudley flying into the fray, and he winds up getting kicked out of the game.
00:08:52
I kind of like it I loved I loved Jared Dudley.
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I love I love what he brings the team, you know he's not gonna play every night.
00:08:57
Although he played 21 minutes Today.
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It's done a lot of DNP CDs as well.
00:09:01
But you need guys like that on your team, man, especially as you're 11 12 guys who who's gonna come out there happened.
00:09:06
You could tell the teammates love them when they were going back after a time out and celebrating.
00:09:10
I mean, everybody was happy off the bench, giving him high fives and just like, yeah, you know what I mean? Like, this is doing his job and expect to see him do that.
00:09:16
But you need people like that on your team.
00:09:19
Who? Everybody on this plot.
00:09:21
The players know that this guy has our back, and you saw obviously what he did there, jumping it against every every single Orlando Magic run in there.
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It's a basketball.
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It's a basketball.
00:09:30
That's right.
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That's right.
00:09:32
You push a little bit, but that's about it.
00:09:33
Yeah, they kicked out.
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But, you know, I just love what he brings to the table in terms of the energy and really his leadership.
00:09:41
You ever hear a lot of the guys talk about him, too, in terms of what he is at practice and and kind of.
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He's one of those glue guys.
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So for me, I think that was a great signing.
00:09:49
Who knows if he's ever gonna get off the bench in a playoff game? But so far, I'm just enjoying that.
00:09:53
Anytime we do get to see him on the court, I'm actually enjoying it.
00:09:56
Yeah, me too.
00:09:57
It's something where I like the way he positions himself.
00:10:00
You can see the athleticism isn't there on uncertain place, right? You can.
00:10:04
You can tell that he just doesn't have that burst that he would need.
00:10:07
But he does a nice job mitigating that with just being in the right spot.
00:10:10
And then if he can knock down the open threes, that at least makes it okay to have him out there on the floor.
00:10:15
And that's not gonna be that way Every single night, there's gonna be nights where you can't have him out there, But every once in a while, it's great to have him in there and you know that he just showed everybody on the team that he's got their back.
00:10:24
And in terms of camaraderie in terms of leadership and all those sorts of things, all those intangibles Jared Dudley just proved a lot so I kind of like what we saw from him.
00:10:32
But the only reason why he even played because Karl Kruse was out again Are you worried about that? The fact that Kyle Kuzma, who was supposed to be over this, this sprained ankle that he had from what a week and 1/2 ago or so he's been playing and then suddenly the Lakers go, it's still bothering him.
00:10:48
We're gonna hold him out to get him to 100%.
00:10:50
Is that a little weird? Like, are you concerned at all about Kyle Kuzma? And is this kind of fishy the way this is, the way they're playing this? Well, I think you've been looking at ankle independent won't take my ankle sprain you had right? It wasn't a high ankle sprain.
00:11:02
Or was it low, low angle? Do you remember? I don't know, something.
00:11:06
I know I don't take a very long time.
00:11:07
T hell, and it's just a funny way because the foot could just swell up just based off running and practicing.
00:11:13
And the next day you could wake up in the morning and your uncle swimming again.
00:11:15
So is the concerning in terms of he hasn't been at his best this season.
00:11:20
Yes, that might be a factor into.
00:11:21
And if it's gonna be a long term thing, then I so I would suggest resting them now and trying to get him fully healthy for running the new Year.
00:11:28
If it's just one of those things that hey, you know what cleared up? Not not No, not nothing too serious.
00:11:32
Just need a couple nights off, then That'll be okay, too, because we mentioned this before.
00:11:36
Kyle Kuzma is imperative for this team that he gets going.
00:11:40
So whatever it is that need to get him 100% whether that's physically or mentally, the Lakers gotta make sure they're doing that on a side note.
00:11:46
Who wins in a race You are.
00:11:47
You are Jared Dudley, 100 meter sprint.
00:11:49
Oh, Jared Dudley, he said.
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He's a professional athlete.
00:11:51
He's still gonna beat me.
00:11:53
There's no there's no question there, Right, Jerry? Jared Dudley is going to win that race.
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Each and every state every time.
00:11:58
I can't remember the last time I ran, ran like, full on sprinted for more than you know, maybe 15 or 20 yards or something like that, So Jared Dudley is definitely gonna win there.
00:12:08
Okay.
00:12:09
No, no question.
00:12:11
Uh, I'm getting all kinds of comments.
00:12:14
Uh, Karsten Benedict Bhuvan from YouTube said, Why did Vogel take LEBRON out late in the game? Magic almost caught up.
00:12:21
That is why LeBron was not happy in his interview.
00:12:23
I didn't see Lebron's interviews.
00:12:24
I don't know if he was unhappy or whatever, but what do you think about that when I knew it was coming? Because we've seen Vote will do this.
00:12:30
He likes toe to sub LeBron out for, like, two minutes.
00:12:33
But it's kind of crunch time, and there's been a few times where he's left him in.
00:12:36
But in this one, he felt comfortable.
00:12:37
Something amount.
00:12:38
I always get nervous.
00:12:40
Are you okay with it? Jazz.
00:12:42
The timing of it isn't probably what you'd see from a typical coach.
00:12:46
No, it's not.
00:12:47
But again, Frank Vogel, that's what he's been all season.
00:12:49
That's been his m o.
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He's not doing the typical thing.
00:12:51
Sometimes LeBron's playing the 1st 7 minutes of the first quarter.
00:12:54
Sometimes he's playing nine.
00:12:55
Sometimes he's playing all 12.
00:12:57
And so what I like about Frank Vogel, the job that he's done so far is he hasn't been predictable.
00:13:01
And if he's looking at it and saying, OK, LeBron maybe look a little bit tired, you know, coaches know they can.
00:13:06
They can tell by a player's body language by how they're breathing by their energy levels.
00:13:10
Maybe he looked at it and said, All right, you know what? I'm not liking what I'm seeing from LeBron.
00:13:14
I want to get some defense into this game because maybe he's a little bit slower, are tired.
00:13:18
So let's go.
00:13:19
Let's get Caruso back in for a couple of possessions here because what? They were up, I think seven or eight at that point on, I know LeBron missed those two free throws, which again might be a sign of tired legs or whatever it is.
00:13:27
So I'm not gonna complain about anything Frank Global does, because right now he's the head coach of a thief that is 22 3 So whatever he's doing, he's pushing the right button.
00:13:36
Yeah, it certainly worked so far, and part of that might just be preserving LeBron giving him enough rest for that final burst.
00:13:42
I'm assuming that in really close games, he's not gonna pull LeBron about that for a minute? No, No spell there, anything like that.
00:13:48
But it is.
00:13:50
I can see where fans would get nervous, especially this game.
00:13:52
I thought last game against the Wolves, the Lakers did okay when LeBron wasn't on the floor this game, they really struggled.
00:13:57
And so pulling amount there was risky.
00:13:59
The magic actually started to catch up, and then he was able to put him back in, and then they put the game away.
00:14:03
But, uh, yeah, look, it's a tough thing, and I think most coaches out there probably wouldn't have the stomach for it Probably would not do that.
00:14:10
But Vogel, given that the team has been winning and that they're finding success, feels comfortable and secure enough to go ahead and make what would be a questionable move for most coaches and pull your best player or your co best player during crunch time.
00:14:23
And he does it to get a morass.
00:14:24
Tha then finished the game off.
00:14:26
Okay, I'm gonna put you on the spot a little bit again. Now, with this question.
00:14:29
Okay.
00:14:30
If Tyler Tyler was the coach of this team like they wanted him to be.
00:14:32
Would they be 22 3 right now? That's tough to say.
00:14:37
Uh, I'm gonna say no, just because that's such a high bar, Right? To be 22 3 that's not easy.
00:14:45
And you think about some of the rotations that Frank Vogel is made.
00:14:48
You think about some of the positive things that he's done something good.
00:14:50
Call some of the defense that the team has shown.
00:14:53
I'm not 100% sure certain that they would be doing that with Tyler.
00:14:57
And that's not to say that Louis a bad coach.
00:14:59
That's not to say they couldn't be 22 3 I'm just saying there's a a better than 50% chance that they wouldn't be OK, so I'm going to say no.
00:15:08
But again, I'm not saying that because I'm saying Frank Vogel is clearly the better coach than Tyler or anything.
00:15:13
I'm just saying that along the way they could have made some different decisions that may have impacted the outcome of a few of these games, sir, I know, but that's what I'm going with.
00:15:23
That's OK.
00:15:24
No, no, that's all right.
00:15:25
You know.
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You know you're playing it safe on that.
00:15:27
We don't want to put you on the spot too much, but now I'm just messing with you.
00:15:29
Next time I run into Tyler, I don't want to be mad at me, which happens all the time.
00:15:33
So you know you all about the same height, though, aren't you? Right, You entitle you wait a few days, I can see eye to eye with him and Thomas Mann of the three of us were together.
00:15:41
Hang out, talk about We talk about the air down here and and all that.
00:15:48
But you know what? You're right, man.
00:15:49
What you were saying? I think that if they had time, Lou, maybe maybe they make a couple of quality in a couple of different decisions, and it might cost in a game or two.
00:15:56
But to me, I not only Lakers fans, but immediate members around around the country and around the n.
00:16:02
B A.
00:16:03
We're saying it's Frank Vogel really going to be the right coach for this.
00:16:05
And how is he gonna fit? And well, you know, we talked about it that Jason Kidd's be hovering over his shoulder, and if they get off to a bad start, Like I said, he silenced everything so far, so easy, making all the right calls and on all the right decisions.
00:16:17
So so for me, if you look at that game and said, you know what, We need to get LeBron off here for a minute because he looks like he needs it.
00:16:22
I'm gonna trust his instinct.
00:16:23
But I agree with you in a game like if they were playing, if that was a one point game or a two point game, he's leaving.
00:16:28
He's leaving LeBron in the whole time.
00:16:29
Yeah, agreed.
00:16:30
I think you would.
00:16:31
And, uh, and that's why you have to take advantage of games like this, where you're up by 10.
00:16:35
Then you've got to make sure that you pulled LeBron get Emma's.
00:16:37
Much rest is as he needs, just let's move on.
00:16:40
Let's talk about some of the moves that were made today, Zack nor vegetable.
00:16:43
Zach Carvell gets waved.
00:16:45
A lot of people remember after a few weeks ago, people were saying, Get rid of KCP start Zach doorbell.
00:16:50
He got waiting by.
00:16:51
The Lakers was on the two way contract.
00:16:53
You can only have two of them.
00:16:54
The other one is occupied by coasters onto Lupo.
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And instead the Lakers gave the to a contract to Davante K ****.
00:17:01
What are your thoughts on that? I was pretty surprised myself.
00:17:05
Yeah, I was interesting.
00:17:06
I mean, I thought he was doing a decent job in with, uh with the South Bay Lakers, and he hasn't been.
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It wasn't great.
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Wasn't as good as he was looking at when he was playing with, uh, with the Lakers in the preseason.
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A couple of those games that he had, but interesting.
00:17:18
I mean, they must see something in him that they didn't like.
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And then they looked at it and said What he brings to the table, and that's it's an interesting decision.
00:17:24
Do I wish that Norville Well, I hope whatever he ends up, you know, he does a good job.
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Ultimately, it does get a shot at the MBA eventually, but, um, yeah, interesting decision.
00:17:33
He's putting up 13 points, three rebounds to assist with South Bay.
00:17:36
So why do you think that? Why do you think they made that choice? Yeah, I thought so.
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This I think it's one of two things and I don't know.
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I don't know what the story is behind it, but my thought is maybe he got a big offer overseas.
00:17:47
That's possible. And so the Lakers.
00:17:49
As you know, maybe Norville went to them and said, Hey, I've got this.
00:17:52
I've got an opportunity to make some big money going and playing in Spain or wherever.
00:17:56
Right? Go, go play overseas somewhere.
00:17:58
Then maybe that's the reason why you let him out of his contract and then he can go make his money.
00:18:04
Okay, so there's There's one possibility.
00:18:06
The other possibility is looking at what the Lakers have.
00:18:08
So if you have a guy on a two way contract, that's a guy that, in theory is going to come play some minutes for you at some point, or at least could Yeah, And if you look with the Lakers got they have a ton of guards.
00:18:18
You Avery Bradley coming back.
00:18:19
You've got Alex Caruso.
00:18:20
You've got TVs, Couple of Pope, Danny Green, Troy Daniels, Quinn, Cook, Rondo.
00:18:25
All these players, right? They can all play at the very least, the one and some of them, the one and the two, some of them just the two, right.
00:18:32
But you have.
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You have all these guards.
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And that's what Zack Norvell is to what? You don't have a ton of his guys who can play in the post.
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Guys who can really be a body underneath.
00:18:42
So, like, let's say one of JaVale McGee or Dwight Howard got hurt.
00:18:46
Yeah, the knee jerk reaction would be to say, Okay, Anthony Davis is more of a full time center then.
00:18:51
But maybe you still want another big body that you can put in there.
00:18:54
And that's where having a guy like a **** as long as well as on to take a bow, make some sense on the two way deal.
00:19:00
So I don't know for sure, but those of it to rationalizations that popped into my head for why the Lakers may have done that.
00:19:07
Yeah, and maybe they saw something in cost.
00:19:09
This is as well.
00:19:10
It's a **** that they're like, All right, you know what? This is that these two guys are more further long.
00:19:13
Or maybe we can develop them or going forward, and they have a shot at being MBA rotation guys. Good.
00:19:19
Let's I'm gonna twist that.
00:19:20
None of those three are gonna be invitation for stars.
00:19:22
you know what I mean? Like, if you're able to get those guys out there for 10 15 minutes a night and they're doing it consistently, that means that they had a successful career and then they did a good job developing them.
00:19:30
So it was interesting to me because I liked what I saw from Tacna Bell in the preseason, just in terms of his shooting, his fearlessness, his defense.
00:19:38
Always love lefty shooters internal.
00:19:39
I just I just I think that says food when they do it.
00:19:41
But, you know, for me, it was a bit surprising to see that, but again, there they're looking at this from a long term perspective, and it was probably more important for them two to have a different skill set that they want to develop.
00:19:54
Or like you mentioned, who knows? Maybe we'll see something from him, like you said, signing in Europe somewhere for a lot more money than he was gonna make here.
00:19:59
Yeah, and look, hopefully that's the case, because more power to my hope that Zach Norville find success.
00:20:05
And who knows? It could be something where he's released from his to a contract and he winds up sticking with the Lakers and the D League.
00:20:10
That's possible, too.
00:20:11
We don't know for sure exactly how it's all gonna play out.
00:20:14
It was a bit shocking to see, but they're not doing it for nothing right there, not just doing it for fun or anything like that, eh? Let's shuffle some players around.
00:20:22
No, that's not what's happening here.
00:20:24
There is a reason behind it.
00:20:25
We just don't know exactly what that reason is yet, But at some point we will.
00:20:30
Yeah, there's a method to the madness that they're that they're doing it for.
00:20:32
So I mean, you know, we'll figure out what that is, whether they have their eyes on somebody else or they're looking at another undrafted free agent or somebody else in the juvie.
00:20:39
Whatever it is, I'm sure we'll hear the reasoning.
00:20:41
Obviously, maybe in the next couple of days, if not the next couple weeks, for sure, Yeah.
00:20:44
Um, other piece of news that came out was via the athletic.
00:20:49
This was in a peace that mentioned a guy named D'Angelo Russell, who Lakers fans are pretty familiar with.
00:20:56
So Anthony Slater, from the athletic and a piece was really, really good all about D'Angelo.
00:21:01
Russell threw in a little tidbit about Russell.
00:21:05
He did get a max deal with the Golden State Warriors for four years, but said that they also had an offer on the table fromthe Lakers for four years.
00:21:12
About 100 million.
00:21:13
Also an offer on the table for the Wolves for a little bit more than that.
00:21:17
But so now we know that the Lakers were indeed, and this had been our thought process.
00:21:21
And this has been what we had heard that the Lakers fallback plan to Kawai Leonard was D'Angelo Russell.
00:21:27
That's who they were hoping to go snag.
00:21:29
Kawai wound up taking too long.
00:21:31
The Warriors Max offer was on the table.
00:21:32
D'Angelo was thinking, Gosh, you know, I've got Max money right here.
00:21:35
Even if the Lakers offer was available right now, which it's not because Kawai hasn't decided, how do you turn down a max deal compared to when the Lakers were offering, you know, 17 million or so less? And so he just went ahead and took the Warriors offer and they made that sign and trade deal with Kevin Durant in order to get Daniel Russell to the Golden State Warriors.
00:21:54
But still, let's talk about the Lakers side of that.
00:21:56
The fact that their Plan B was D'Angelo Russell Initially, what are your thoughts on that? Just you know what, looking back, I mean, I think at the time I probably would have said, Yeah, it's a good move because you're bringing in another all star caliber player with an All Star season last year with Brooklyn.
00:22:14
But, um, I'm looking at it now.
00:22:16
I think it was a blessing in disguise, right? Because a you're gonna end up not having in the room for a guy like Danny Green.
00:22:21
Then you wouldn't know.
00:22:22
Don't agree.
00:22:23
Maybe a profoundly whatever it is, two or three guys on the roster now probably wouldn't be on the team if D'Angelo Russell was here.
00:22:28
And this is no disrespect to D'Angelo Russell, but I think he's a very good scorer, and I think he can.
00:22:32
He can develop still into into being a little bit more than that as he goes further along in his career.
00:22:37
But to me, he's a clunky fit on this roster, and that's where I think that's as good as he is in terms of his skill set and you could fill it up.
00:22:43
And you know, any night you go out for 40 if, but he has to have the ball in his hands, and he has to be the predominant guy who's running the offense from the top of the key.
00:22:51
You're not running D'Angelo Russell off of screens all the time and hoping to get him over into, you know, curl off, curl off screens and hit open jumpers.
00:22:58
You're looking at me, Andrew like Okay, go play Isil ball.
00:23:00
He's almost like a poor man's James Harden in that way, you know what I mean? Like, just go stand at the top of the key and create offense and and so for me, I don't like the fit, But it was interesting that they were actually circled back and said, Hey, you know what? Like we have an offer for you here, you know, in case things don't go well with Ally, what do you think about that? I think it's interesting.
00:23:17
I think that when we're looking at it initially, our first thought has to be.
00:23:21
What would this have cost them? Right? So who didn't get because they didn't get D'Angelo Russell, and you're on the money on the 1st 1 So? So Danny Green is making 14.
00:23:28
6 million this season gone.
00:23:30
No way they could afford that.
00:23:31
Right? So he's he's out because you have to figure, Russell, if the deal is 100 million, probably start around 20 to wish 1,000,023 which is what we're guessing it would probably start out during the during the off season.
00:23:42
We were saying that it would probably start somewhere in there.
00:23:45
So if you are the Lakers and you're gonna give him 22 that means no Danny Green.
00:23:50
And then you're also potentially looking at no contagious couple Pope, which I can't see.
00:23:55
I mean, I think if that was the swap out, no KCP and no Danny Green. But you have D'Angelo.
00:24:01
Russell, would you do that? Uh, knowing what I know now, before the season? Well, knowing what I know now know.
00:24:09
And now I'm saying it from the perspective of what I see from the team on the court, in terms of what they run and how and how they do things to me.
00:24:16
I just think, um, the annual gross is a better score than Kyle Kuzma, but I think that's what you kind of see with them in terms of, you know, with whose the struggle has been.
00:24:27
I'm not having the ball in my hands all the time or, you know, being able to create and do my own thing.
00:24:30
And they're not running plays for me all the time.
00:24:32
And I think that's where D'Angelo Russell would have kind of gotten stuck in that kind of no man's land in terms of I'm not really a spot up shooter.
00:24:39
I need the ball in my hand, but obviously with 80 and LeBron in this, glad I'm not gonna get to do that.
00:24:44
So looking at it now.
00:24:45
But I mean in the summer time, if you're gonna ask me deal Oh, or Danny Green and KCP, I would've said Take the low in a heartbeat.
00:24:51
So bright idea worked out better in the long term for the Lakers.
00:24:53
Yeah, a lot.
00:24:54
A lot of people in the chat here timing it and saying no, they would not do that.
00:24:57
Some people Danieli Hayes from Facebook, saying he would have done that.
00:25:01
However, I'll say the K C P part of it.
00:25:03
I don't think it's realistic.
00:25:04
I think KCP was coming back.
00:25:05
You've got the clutch sports connection.
00:25:07
So rather than any green and KCP, I just used him because I thought that that would be the least amount that you would have to have to sacrifice in order to bring in D'Angelo.
00:25:16
Russell More likely you're probably looking at Danny Green.
00:25:19
And then perhaps Avery Bradley and JAVALE McGee together could have could have made up that kind of money.
00:25:26
Perhaps you're looking at somebody like like maybe you don't have the money to give to a guy named Alex Caruso.
00:25:32
Maybe you can No, no, no.
00:25:33
Now we can't do we can.
00:25:34
We can never talk about that.
00:25:36
Okay? Looks gruesome.
00:25:38
Living in a world that's yeah, that's blasphemy.
00:25:44
Right there.
00:25:45
Like like that Doesn't feel good saying, Hey, they may.
00:25:47
They may have had to let liken Alex Caruso go in order to make room for D'Angelo Russell.
00:25:51
And I think that's where even more people would draw the line and they'd say, OK, well, no.
00:25:55
You know, if it's Danny Green and JaVale and Alex Caruso, I think there'll be more likely to say No, that's not worth it compared to just Danny Green and Casey Casey, right? Yeah.
00:26:07
Yeah.
00:26:08
So that's probably with the Lakers.
00:26:10
Wanted doing it.
00:26:12
So I I don't think that they came out on the wrong end of this.
00:26:15
But there is another side to this argument, right? And you look at Daniel Russell's still young.
00:26:19
I believe he's about 24 23 somewhere in there.
00:26:22
He's still a very talented player.
00:26:24
He's a guy who can score out of the pick and roll, especially he's got passing skills.
00:26:28
He's got size, he's got up.
00:26:30
So he's got more upside.
00:26:32
Then, say Danny Green or even Captain America.
00:26:35
Alex Caruso.
00:26:36
Even though I feel gross saying that, right? All that any of those guys, he's more upside than any of those players.
00:26:41
Yeah, so look, there's an argument to be made either way.
00:26:44
I guess it is the way we can go with this.
00:26:46
You could say that they should have gone with D'Angelo Russell, but I think things ultimately worked out for the best the way that they did.
00:26:54
Yeah, I agree with you, and that's what I'm looking at it to get long term.
00:26:56
If you're against you.
00:26:57
I'm looking at it like this is such a multi pronged question, right, Because if you're like, Well, if you would have ah D'Angelo Russell for the next eight years or write you no combination of Danny Greene and Caruso and Javale McGee for three years, you know, you got away all the little factors like that for me.
00:27:14
I'm looking at it from this season alone.
00:27:17
It was a blessing that the Lakers didn't get him just cause I just don't think his game suits Would Anthony Davis and LeBron James do out there? Because those two guys need space and they want to be able to create a pick and rolls.
00:27:27
They want to be able to give the ball download to a D A.
00:27:29
Let him go to work, either in the higher the mid post, wherever he's able to get her towards the the block makes it extended.
00:27:35
You don't have to be between the pain and the three point line, But if the Angelo Russell's out there were, you know he just doesn't fit the offense.
00:27:41
And the way things were gonna go so again long term, Yeah, maybe you want to say Daniel Russel is worth it, But in the short term, I think it worked out great for the Lakers. They didn't.
00:27:50
I'm committing to Yeah, I think the guys that they got are a better fit, even if D'Angelo Russell might be the better talent and that I guess that kind of piggybacks on or these mimics the discussion we've been having about Carmelo Anthony versus Jared Dudley fit versus talent and I think you go back to the same thing here again gandal Russell.
00:28:08
Probably the better talent than those guys that the Lakers wound up getting.
00:28:11
But in terms of fit, I think the way this team has been playing, you have to say that they they got, they got the best side of this.
00:28:18
Yeah, and you can have it.
00:28:19
You know what we saw that happened even with like, it's been a long time now, but the old three or four teams you have Yet Hayden and and Malone again at the end of their career is not exactly the superstars that they were at one point.
00:28:29
But Gary Payton was a terrible fit in that offense, right in the triangle offense.
00:28:33
He just he looked lost and Derek Fisher was was the better option.
00:28:36
So you're looking at it in terms of Yeah, he's a bigger name and he probably could score 20.
00:28:39
15 points a game on Fisher's gonna give you eight.
00:28:42
But it doesn't matter about scoring at that point because you have to super duper stars on your team.
00:28:47
We're gonna combine to score 50 points a night regardless.
00:28:49
So I just don't think there's room for deal. Oh, to be a bit offensive.
00:28:52
His main thing is all offensive being offensive weapon.
00:28:54
And he just wasn't gonna be that on this team.
00:28:56
Yeah, that's just it, right If if you get D'Angelo Russell, let's say you bring him into this Lakers team.
00:29:03
You're not talking about the same guy you saw in Brooklyn.
00:29:06
You're not talking about the same guy that you're seeing right now in Golden State with no Steph Curry and with no play cops and all those pieces, you're not talking about a guy that can have the ball in his hands all the time, right? Because the ball is gonna be on LeBron James hands if you're If you're giving Russell the ball to run high pick and roll the time.
00:29:19
That means you've got LeBron spotting up, and I don't think that's what you want.
00:29:22
That's not official.
00:29:23
So most likely for D'Angelo Russell to really be himself.
00:29:26
He's got the what, 13 minutes that LeBron James is off the floor.
00:29:32
Yeah, that's the time to shine right and that we don't know how comfortable I feel with that.
00:29:36
Do you want to pay 23 million for 13 minutes of D'Angelo Russell at his best, and the rest of the time he's a bit more of an awkward fit? Probably not, No, And I know that's what you know.
00:29:46
I know, I know.
00:29:47
A lot of people look at it and say, Well, you just signed all the talented guys Golden State doing that and any they Obviously, they drafted three of those guys in the bottom to rent.
00:29:54
It was done in a way of those.
00:29:57
It was almost a special cir***stance because all four of those guys just bought a different skill set, right? I mean, Steph Curry and Klay Thompson.
00:30:03
Clay Thompson doesn't have to take a dribble, and you'll score 20 points in 1/4 of its hot.
00:30:07
You know, what I'm saying when you saw that happen, too, so you don't want to just bring in All these guys were like, Well, he could score 20.
00:30:12
He could score 20 and he could score 25 because it's not a fit for it.
00:30:15
Where that warriors seemed to me was like an outlier in the sense that because Kevin Durant yeah, you want the ball.
00:30:20
But you can run Kevin Durant off screens all day.
00:30:22
Steph Curry, Klay Thompson on screens all day and dream on Green doesn't really care about scoring.
00:30:27
And so if the Lakers were looking at that in terms of just bringing in talent, I think they did the right thing by having Okay, you know what? We've got Danny Green here for a few years.
00:30:34
We have the money for KCP.
00:30:35
We have the money for Alex Caruso.
00:30:37
We have some money lying around for everybody.
00:30:38
Whoever it is, they were able to kind of fill out the roster rather than committing tough, because without without those with the Angel's Russell, how many of these guys are off our off the squad? You know what I mean? And and we don't know who we don't know who it could've would've been right now with the way that chemistry is in the way the rotations are.
00:30:53
I think that obviously hit the nail on the head with that one, but not signing.
00:30:55
I'll tell you what.
00:30:56
Just I think that the way things played out is even more impressive for a Republican.
00:31:03
Yeah, they hearing this now knowing that games were Russell was Plan B, which is fine, right? I mean, in the moment, back then in the summer, you could you could make it even more solid argument for going D'Angelo Russell.
00:31:12
So I don't fault Pelinka if that really was his plan B.
00:31:15
But planning is Kawai.
00:31:17
If Plan B is D'Angelo Russell, look how quickly Plan c came together, right? Like years of Russell decided, what, 36 hours, maybe 48 hours before collided.
00:31:28
Like it wasn't There wasn't a whole lot of time there.
00:31:30
And yet as soon as the Kawai decision became known, boom, the signing started dropping.
00:31:35
Lakers get Danny like, almost immediately, it was in a okay.
00:31:39
Danny Green is now a Laker.
00:31:40
And then it was Quinn Cook, and then it was DeMarcus cousins, and it was boom, boom, boom, boom, boom because Pelinka hand that plan all laid out he had all of his ducks in a row and ready.
00:31:49
And hearing that Plan B was D'Angelo Russell.
00:31:51
That means that he didn't have nearly as much time to set up Plan C.
00:31:56
And yet he was able to still executed.
00:31:57
I think that's pretty impressive.
00:31:59
Well, that's what happens when you don't have ah, grandfather Magic Johnson in the office next to you, trying to tell you all these ridiculous things that you have to do it.
00:32:06
It was good to see Rob Pelinka, an agent, a former basketball player, Kobe's agent.
00:32:11
He obviously knows what he's doing in terms of planning ahead and having this stuff.
00:32:14
I just think he was.
00:32:15
He was almost hamstrung by having Magic Johnson in the building.
00:32:17
So that was That was the best thing that happened.
00:32:19
The Lakers Magic Johnson decided to randomly resign that one fateful day lives here.
00:32:23
So the fact that let me let me throw this at you, though, before I you know I don't want derailed too much, we're gonna get back to previewing the Miami Heat game.
00:32:32
But if the Lakers if Magic Johnson had state.
00:32:36
Right.
00:32:37
Let's assume Luke Walton gets fired still, right.
00:32:38
They're gonna bring in another coaching.
00:32:39
All that Magic Johnson stays is Kawai, Leonard Laker knowing Allie's relationship with magic.
00:32:47
Ooh, and there's no right or wrong answer here, right? Yeah, I Yeah, I would say, Yeah, they would have had more of a shot at Kawai, but, um, at the same time, Magic added, I know no disrespecting.
00:32:59
Like I said, he's one of the greatest, if not the arguably the greatest Laker of all time will be saying that on the court off the court, he was like, you bought, like, a dark cloud over the organization.
00:33:08
You know what I'm saying? As soon as he came in the outlanders crap, he would say everything else.
00:33:12
So I feel like even if they did find a way to get collide, maybe they wouldn't have button Anthony Davis and, um, things that, you know, the other guys wouldn't want to play here.
00:33:20
Would they have a better shot of quiet? Yeah, but I still don't think this would be 22 3 and Magic Johnson was the president.
00:33:26
Yeah, I could see that.
00:33:27
Who goes, who knows who would be on the roster, right? I mean, this is the thing with the smooth talking about.
00:33:35
He's got you thinking, shooting.
00:33:36
We saw the end result what? He had unlimited cap space of what he could bring in.
00:33:40
He bought LeBron great.
00:33:41
LeBron is gonna come here anyways.
00:33:42
I don't think that was that hard to recruit him, but at the same time, it's like, Come on, man, like, you know he was.
00:33:47
He was just not a good he was just not good at his job.
00:33:50
And I don't think the team would be in the position that it's in right now.
00:33:52
If you were still calling the shots like Nick Young would probably be a Laker.
00:33:55
But nothing gets Nick Young.
00:33:56
I love Nick Young, but that's the type of player would have gone after.
00:34:00
And that's that's what we see on the Lakers, right? J.
00:34:02
R.
00:34:03
Smith.
00:34:04
I should say J J R.
00:34:05
Smith would be a Laker still still magical in those shots there.
00:34:07
Instead of like any Avery Bradley or somebody alone goes Byron Scott.
00:34:10
Byron Scott would be the coach.
00:34:14
Oh, that's that's Ah, those are some unpleasant memories they're They're sure.
00:34:20
Ah, lot of scowling and a lot of Byron Scott folding his arms on the sidelines and hey, say something.
00:34:25
Just it's not gonna kill you talking players.
00:34:30
Oh, by the way, that in the piece on the athletic D'Angelo Russell mentioned he basically said, You think you think just a mess with Byron Scott? And just because you could have had an attitude so he would he would go the long way around to the bench so you wouldn't have to talk to the judge is okay, because he was mad. They seldom out.
00:34:47
We've come so far. Jazz Wait.
00:34:52
So, Friday, the Lakers take on the Miami Heat Miami team, That is pretty good.
00:34:57
I mean, this is one of the better teams in the Eastern Conference and taking a peek at the standings right now.
00:35:02
I know they were almost a top four last time, either.
00:35:05
Second, their second.
00:35:06
Now they moved up, So their 2nd yeah, they are 18 and six.
00:35:10
Hey, guess what? Jazz The Celtics lost tonight.
00:35:14
Oh, yeah.
00:35:16
Hey, it's another reason why there are struggling now to Milwaukee team looking looking deadly, though.
00:35:20
Yeah, that's that's gonna be a tough one for the Lakers, for sure, but they've got to get through Miami first. Miami is a good team.
00:35:26
They have a point differential plus 5.
00:35:28
8, which is is pretty darn solid.
00:35:31
Uh, they are.
00:35:33
I mean, they're a good team.
00:35:34
They're good defensive team.
00:35:36
Erik Spoelstra is a good coach, so they're they're well coached.
00:35:39
This is not time when Miami went zone, and then the Lakers figured it out in the second half.
00:35:43
But who knows what they're going to deploy this time? Most likely, Spencer is not gonna do the same thing again.
00:35:48
So on and on the road, right. Traveling.
00:35:52
Not gonna be easy.
00:35:53
So I'm expecting this to be a tough game work.
00:35:55
If the Lakers play like they did tonight against Miami, I think they lose, 100%.
00:36:00
I think that that's that's totally true of Miami's 11 to know at home as well.
00:36:04
So they're completely different beast playing and playing at in their own arena compared to anywhere else.
00:36:08
So I'm looking at this.
00:36:10
Miami is a very balanced squad.
00:36:11
I mean, you got a ton of guys that are averaging double figures on that team.
00:36:14
I think, What is it? 1 to 6 or seven guys.
00:36:16
So they're deep.
00:36:18
I think the key to this one is gonna make sure that the guys off the bench and again we don't know what cruiser status is. Rondo.
00:36:24
We don't know, you know, if he might be able to show up and play or not.
00:36:26
But I think it's got to be that they got to get some offensive contributions from their bench in that game because of how deep the eat are and how much how much they could score with their roster has constructed.
00:36:36
I think LeBron and 80 will do their thing, but they they're gonna need some of those other guys to step up like we saw Caruso get 14 16 points last game.
00:36:43
They need one or two of the guys off the bench to be able to do that.
00:36:45
Yeah, agreed.
00:36:46
You know, you mentioned that that the Miami Heat are unbeaten at home.
00:36:51
The Lakers are pretty darn good on the road to they have been a good, good road team this year.
00:36:57
Well, they're unbeaten away from Staples Center, I guess.
00:36:59
Their first game, Technically it was a road game right, Technically, but can't really count.
00:37:04
Is that when they're in L.
00:37:05
A.
00:37:06
And they're at Staples Center.
00:37:07
But technically, it was It was the Clippers floor, but still, So the Lakers right now heading into Miami.
00:37:11
Look, it's gonna be a tough one.
00:37:13
It's gonna be one that that they're gonna have to deal with bam at a bio.
00:37:16
I know can get Miami out in transition and running.
00:37:19
The crowd's gonna be fired up.
00:37:21
Goran Dragic always seems to have big games when he plays against the Lakers.
00:37:24
So that's gonna be something to do with their.
00:37:27
This is a strong team, even though they don't have a whole lot of household names.
00:37:30
Although there is this guy named Jimmy Butler there who is competitive is hell and can give the Lakers to fight all throughout the game.
00:37:37
So I'm excited to see the Lakers step up for this one, and I think it's a nice step up before you deal with, like, Atlanta and then eventually make your way to some tougher teams in Indiana who beat the Celtics tonight and then the big showdown with the Milwaukee Bucks.
00:37:51
Yeah, this is again.
00:37:52
This is where this is what we want to see.
00:37:54
The Lakers play a level up in competition, right? There's always a little bit more.
00:37:58
Even when they played against Denver and then they end up on that beat down on Utah.
00:38:02
There's a little bit more juice to the game before because, you know both teams are good.
00:38:05
The Lakers are right now, clearly head and shoulders above, you know, almost every single team in the league.
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Except for maybe the Clippers in the West.
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The Bucks are not connect with L.
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A as well, but playing a team like Miami was that who's got that good of a record? These are the games that you get up for.
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These are the games that you want to see.
00:38:20
So maybe maybe those guys were have there, have there, you know, they were looking past the magic.
00:38:24
A little bit of thinking, eh? We got to go to South Beach, maybe stay a night there, depending on their travel schedule.
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So they could have contacted my heavy and looking forward to that game too.
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So they're gonna be ready like you mentioned you.
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Have.
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You have a stretch of 18 20 minutes where they play the way they did in that second and third quarter.
00:38:37
Uh, it'll be lights out real quick, real quick. On Friday night.
00:38:40
Yeah, you mentioned that this Miami team has so much death.
00:38:42
Kendrick Nunn has been tremendous.
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He's one of the favorites right now for rookie of the year, which is which is pretty amazing.
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He's been playing extremely well for them as it as a guard payment.
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A bio like I mentioned has been been huge for them, getting a lot of assists from the center position, running the floor.
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Well, he's been tremendous.
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They have guys who can put the ball in the basket.
00:39:01
They have guys who could defend.
00:39:02
They have guys who can shoot.
00:39:04
They don't have a whole lot of star power aside from Jimmy Butler, but this is a team that plays really well together, so it's gonna be a dangerous one for the Lakers, and I can't wait to see it.
00:39:11
I want to see this Lakers team step up for sure, man, I think that what they gotta play a complete and again it's such a cliche.
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But when you say we play a complete game like you want to see them play 35 36 minutes at their complete best.
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And I think if they're able to do that, this will be another, another kind of feather in their cap.
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To show that a man that championship run that anybody's thinking about having it's gonna come to us.
00:39:32
And I think this is one of the games with the Lakers can prove that, right? Let's dive into a few of the questions right here before we before we call it an evening, uh, got one from YouTube saying, Trevor, have you heard anything about Kenneth Faried? He will be available soon.
00:39:48
It seems no, and frankly, there's no need for him at this point.
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He would have been a decent option should that things fall through Dwight Howard, but no haven't heard anything about him.
00:39:56
As I recall, he went played overseas, but I don't think he's an option for the Lakers.
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I don't think he's anything anybody that they need right now.
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They have Dwight.
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They have prevailed.
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Have a D.
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Now you've got a fancy cake **** and coast assaulted a hippo on two way deals.
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I think there said.
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I don't think there's any need to go after Kenneth Faried at this point, even though I do like him as a player and I do hope you winds up somewhere.
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I think he had a nice resurgence last year with Houston Rockets.
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But no, I don't.
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I don't see him find his way to the Lakers.
00:40:22
Yeah, I'm not gonna just anything other than I agree with everything that you just said they're So let's wait.
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Go to the next one.
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All right.
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Let's, uh let's Dido from Jess.
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Yeah, that's it.
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That's all I got.
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Uh, here's a good one.
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King vortex from YouTube.
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Will they boo LeBron? And I'm assuming he's talking about Miami.
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If you are a Miami Heat fan, are you booing LeBron when he gets introduced on Friday night? No, because it's been What? When's the last time he was there? Five years now.
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For five seasons now It was 2014 was Rose's last 2013 2014 last year, and now I mean, he bought two championships to the city.
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Put them under the microscope of the NBA spotlight For that, that period of time.
00:41:03
No, I would bloom.
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Why you think they should? I don't think so.
00:41:06
Bamian fans.
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By nature, I mean, fanatics, right are not always rational.
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And so I wouldn't be surprised if he got if he heard a few boos.
00:41:14
People probably weren't too thrilled that he left, But it's certainly not like when he left Cleveland the first time.
00:41:19
No, not like that.
00:41:20
I think it gets booze.
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It's gonna beam.
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Or you're the best player on the team that we want to beat.
00:41:25
Yes, you know, you know, I'm saying, Like like when some players come in L. A.
00:41:30
They get booed not because it's anything personal, but just because they're a good player like James Harden gets boot because he's a great player.
00:41:36
But people don't like the way he plays, and so they get frustrated, so he gets booed right wherever he goes.
00:41:40
That happens, eh? So I wouldn't be surprised if LeBron gets those kind of you're the guy that we want to see fail in this game type booze.
00:41:48
But I don't think there should be that resentment left over from his time in Miami and then leaving.
00:41:54
No, people are cheering Dwight Howard here, and then in the first game.
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Come on, man, we gotta go We gotta get LeBron.
00:41:58
Gotta get LeBron a little bit of love over there.
00:42:00
If Lakers fans can forgive Dwight Howard and he could be a fan favorite that Miami fans should not boo LeBron James, I think that's a good way to look at it.
00:42:08
Just sticky Atzori season.
00:42:10
He had here that one year.
00:42:11
People still forgive LeBron Bottom two championships.
00:42:13
Look at the poor against the guy we're ashamed from.
00:42:17
Facebook says they should do a standing ovation.
00:42:19
Yeah, they probably should.
00:42:20
I wouldn't be surprised if there was some sort of a video for him or anything.
00:42:24
Yeah, like that.
00:42:25
Ah, Few people saying they didn't boo him when he was a cavalier.
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So why would they now? Yeah, again, I don't think they should.
00:42:31
But just you know, you never know.
00:42:34
Luis Ayala is going far enough is to say Costa's on to compose should be the backup four, which I'm assuming we'll be taking Kyle Kuzma is rule.
00:42:41
Are we all off the con? Cruise? My training.
00:42:43
At this point, it's too early.
00:42:44
Don't jump.
00:42:46
He's been doing it.
00:42:48
But if you still struggle like this in January middle of January and we're giving him time and keep saying give a month to month.
00:42:53
But okay, maybe the ankle didn't fully heal.
00:42:56
He went through a sickness there.
00:42:57
He took some time away.
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We're gonna give him the benefit of the doubt because he knows we know what he can do and he has a potential to be able to deliver.
00:43:04
So I think it's too early right now to say that.
00:43:05
Stop it.
00:43:06
Would you think that cost us answer to compose better than Kyle Kuzma right now.
00:43:10
Stop. That's ridiculous. Yes.
00:43:12
Let's, uh, let's back the back things up a little bit there.
00:43:15
Let's pump the bags Right, pal.
00:43:17
Cruz was still a good player.
00:43:18
He struggled lately, but a like we were saying KCP when he struggled with the beginning, there was a positive regression to the mean coming.
00:43:25
I think when Koosman gets healthy, we're going to see a positive regression of mean with him as well.
00:43:29
I think he is going to be going to be better soon, sooner rather than later.
00:43:34
I'm hoping middle of January at the latest.
00:43:36
Hopefully he will be, ah, be rolling.
00:43:39
Uh, let's see a few people saying we need to get Andre Iguodala.
00:43:42
We've talked about that.
00:43:43
A ton? Yes.
00:43:45
What do you think the Memphis Grizzlies are still saying? No, they're saying there is no world in which in this from Kevin O'Connor, the ringer saying There's no world in which we will wave or buy out under a vanilla.
00:43:58
And no one believes him.
00:44:00
Yes, yeah, because why would you look, if the trade deadline passes and even all is still on the Memphis Grizzlies, Nobody gives them a trade offer for him.
00:44:08
He's gonna go to the Grizzlies and say, OK, guys, having a buyout now, because clearly, I'm not gonna play for you and you can't trade me anymore.
00:44:15
I don't finish my finish my career just sitting out an entire season.
00:44:19
So let's talk about a buyout.
00:44:20
I think if they hit the trade deadline, nothing materializes.
00:44:23
The biotoxin going to brand up.
00:44:26
Until then, though, the Grizzlies are going to do everything they can to convince anyone who will listen that they will, not by Audi with all, and there's no way to get him other than to surrender assets in a trade.
00:44:36
And teams just need to be patient. My mind.
00:44:38
Yeah, you just gotta wait.
00:44:39
That 10 because that that, like you said, that's gonna come to a head once, Once the trade deadline approaching and if nothing gets done, makes the Memphis Grizzlies look bad to you.
00:44:46
Don't treat were very well respected.
00:44:49
Former n b a Finals M v P.
00:44:51
You don't treat him that way in the twilight of his career.
00:44:53
You know what? I'm trying to help him and give him a shot to go play somewhere he wants to be.
00:44:57
So, uh, whatever ends up happening there, they will figure something.
00:45:01
I don't think it teams in to give up a first round pick.
00:45:02
I just don't think Andrea Adela is worth a first round pick at this point.
00:45:05
Even even a future first round pick where it's like, three years from now on, whatever the hell they want to do with the with all the fancy stuff.
00:45:11
But, um, yeah, the Lakers could get him, and that makes him that much more deadly because I think he brings a dynamic that the Lakers will well, really, really need some time for the playoffs.
00:45:20
Yeah, 100%.
00:45:21
They will.
00:45:22
But I think what Memphis is banking on is that a team like the Clippers is gonna talk themselves into.
00:45:27
Okay, we'd better give up something to keep him away from the Lakers.
00:45:30
So let's add Memphis something.
00:45:32
Let's just let's just do it.
00:45:33
Let's figure out a trade And so you could see something like that pop up.
00:45:36
That's what Memphis is hoping.
00:45:37
They're keeping their fingers crossed and hoping that something like that happens.
00:45:41
A few people have the run of the name Marvin Williams.
00:45:44
No, madam, he's a veteran player can shoot from outside.
00:45:47
He's not the kind of guy that's gonna, you know, make or break your team, but injury, like if they don't get it, would all interesting fallback option.
00:45:54
Yeah, yeah, they're gonna have their gonna have Bill gets somebody surprising, is gonna come in.
00:45:58
They're gonna get so the market, they'll get somebody.
00:46:00
So I'm hoping it's a gondola.
00:46:02
But even if it's if it's something a little bit less, they will get something that can either bring ah dynamic wing defender and a bit of a shooter as well.
00:46:10
And that's what they need and hope you're up.
00:46:11
Blanca, who so far like you mentioned is that the lot of things, right? So, whatever, he maybe he has another plan.
00:46:17
A Plan B, Plan C by plan B all the way down the line.
00:46:19
But the Lakers will find someone come time for January for brain, once the bio market start settling it. Yeah.
00:46:24
I would be surprised if they just stood pat and didn't do anything.
00:46:27
All right, guys, why don't we wrap up there? We've got the game against Miami Heat coming up on Friday.
00:46:32
Will be doing the post game after that.
00:46:34
In fact, as long as we can get all the technical stuff figured out with it, we're gonna be joined by actually, both Jazz and Chris Masters will be joining us.
00:46:40
Is what? We'll have all three of us together have a few little wrinkles toe workout, having 1/3 person in here, but we should be able to get that done.
00:46:46
So that's exciting.
00:46:47
It's gonna be a really fun show.
00:46:49
Especially the Lakers coming into a big game against the Miami Heat.
00:46:52
Appreciate everybody joining us.
00:46:54
Everybody coming in from Facebook live already from YouTube.
00:46:57
Everybody from periscope appreciate all the questions, All the comments.
00:47:01
Thank you guys.
00:47:02
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00:47:07
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00:47:08
Underscore Lane Jazz Final comments take us out 22 3 man Doesn't matter how ugly it wasn't you take.
00:47:14
You take the w we can get him.
00:47:16
But I am really looking forward that Friday for sure.
00:47:18
22 3 You gotta love it now.
00:47:20
Hopefully after Friday there, 23 3 because that's gonna be a fun game.
00:47:26
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00:47:27
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you always take a win is you can get on.
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But I mean, when I was watching it when they were up after the first quarter, 26 to 9, I'm like, all right, they're gonna win by 20.
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Obviously, that didn't happen.
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Pretty ugly quarters in the in the second and third, especially the turnovers that they were having making it kind of really easy for Orlando to get back in the game.
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It's not like Orlando was playing suffocating defense or are, you know, completely shutting down the Lakers.
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It was just dumb mistakes that allowed Orlando back in the game.
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But then again, they did what a championship team does at the end.
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They put their foot down and ended up getting a nine point win.
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The you know, the score wasn't really in doubt.
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It will last for five minutes.
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So, um, again, first game of a road trip.
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They kind of had a weird schedule their last week when they played three and four nights and then three and four nights again and then came home for wayward.
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Just a weird kind of travel things.
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So maybe maybe that played a factor into it.
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But 22 country.
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I don't I don't think you can complain about that at this point.
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Yeah.
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At one point in the in the third quarter, where they started making that run, I mean, it was a little bit like, Oh, man, this is gonna turn into, like, a nail biter of the game because, you know, we talked about it before.
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Lando's been a bit of a house of horrors for the Lakers over the last few seasons, but, uh, no to me.
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I mean, I got into the fourth quarter and LeBron kind of started imposing his will on the game.
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He finished with a triple double again, I kind of just looked like to me that that I don't think if the game was like the game was close, but especially in that in that third and early in the fourth.
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But to me, I didn't really feel like they were gonna lose.
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Why? What about you? Where you kind of you looking at that point That they might end up, end up getting offended in this one? Yeah.
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What do you think? The reason is that Orlando like to me? Oh, just sloppy play.
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And they almost seemed like they were intense, and they were all about the defense in the in the first quarter.
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I think the magic ended up shooting 19% in the first quarter or 20% and then they ended up, you know, kind of just getting back in on that 11 to run early in the second, just strictly off off a bad and sloppy play.
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So for me, I mean, I just look at it like it was almost a switch that they had to turn back on in the fourth.
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Why do you think, Orlando, what do the Lakers did wrong that led Orlando back into the game? You know, I felt like and by the way, guys, hopefully I know I was I guess I was having some some audio issues there.
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So those you in the live chat, let me know if, ah, if I got better here.
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So hopefully that's Ah, that's fixed there.
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I had to guess an issue with my side of it, but it looks like to me I'm getting a good reading now, so hopefully that's all good.
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But anyway, this was something where I thought that that the Lakers just kind of took their foot off the gas a little bit.
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I mean, the magic only put up nine points in the first quarter, and so the Lakers were able to kind of take a little bit of, ah, arrest.
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It was like they kind of thought, Okay, this thing is over.
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And the magic, they weren't they were ready to go away. They came roaring back.
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And so that was That was an issue.
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Guys, I appreciate you guys hopping in there and let me know that my son wasn't coming through Look good on my end, but again, Thanks everybody in the chat for saving us, They're so jazz.
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Look overall. Yeah.
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Look, I thought this was one of those games where they took their foot off the gas and we've seen this quite a bit, but then they were missing shots, and part of that is we have to give credit to their land of defense because they have these long, lanky defenders.
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Guys like Jonathan Isaac, guys like Aaron Gordon and players like that.
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Obama certainly, and they were doing some things to make things tough on the Lakers.
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But the same time I felt like they were just missing some open shots.
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And because of that, they left the door open for the Magic.
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Come back if it was a different team.
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If it was a better team, the Lakers probably lose that game the way they played.
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Yeah, they play the way they do.
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They did today against Miami in Miami on on Friday.
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They're gonna lose to do a very, very good hit squad, and I almost looking at you mean everything was just a struggle for them Offensively.
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Anthony Davis, 6 20 from the field.
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LeBron James shot below below 50% and then I also look at it as a team 10 of 19 from the line you had for five more.
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You know what I mean? That stretches that lead just that much.
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You know, in terms of being a nine point game, it's a 14 15 point game, so I just think all around it was just kind of a weird offensive performance.
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I think that that is ah, mix of missing easy shots you mentioned during the game.
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LeBron looked like every layup he was taken.
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It was kind of ripping out funny and just not getting not falling down.
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And then you look at the rest of Anthony Davis.
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You look at his shot chart, you know what I mean? Settling for jumpers to and then the turnover.
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So I think defensively, obviously, any time to give up 87 points, you give up nine and 1/4.
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You already did something right conservatively.
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But offensively, I think this game was just sloppy.
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And it was just one of those games that they had, but again credit to the Lakers because they were able to actually still pull it out.
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But like you mentioned, Yeah, you can't get away with the performance like this against Miami against Milwaukee against the Clippers.
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You're gonna get we're gonna lose by 20 on nights like that.
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Well, maybe that's part of the reason why we saw this performance is the Lakers won.
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Okay, we've got this one.
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It's Orlando.
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They're not coming back.
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Where's against Milwaukee? The focus is probably there.
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And then I guess that's really what it comes down to.
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It felt like their focus just slipped.
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And you know what Anthony Davis did not have a great game. I mean, look.
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The shooting wise, right? 12 boards.
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Six. It says two steals, two blocks.
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Certainly take that 16 points, Okay, but six of 20 from the field.
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I thought that we saw kind of a settling Anthony Davis again tonight, a guy who was was settling for a few, the turnaround jumpers that he had done a pretty good job in the last few weeks of eliminating from his game.
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We saw those creep back in was it didn't seem to be attacking the basket quite as much.
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And maybe that's because he knew there was so much rim protection there for Orlando, but still just a rough outing for him.
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And when you've got that and then LeBron James only shooting 11 for 24 missing a lot of shots like you mentioned some of the layups rolling out of the basket, it created a much closer game that I think we should have seen.
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And like we said, you know, 96 to 87 this Lakers team dropped 100 140 something the other night.
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This was an ugly performance.
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It wasn't pretty, but again, end of the day 22 3 now, Yeah, that's what you take at the end of it.
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It's not like again.
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We're judging this team on different expectations and what we're looking at at last season, right? So right now you're gonna look at this and say, All right, They've won 22 out of 25 games.
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They're forced to be on pace to be 44 6 at the 50 game work.
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That's insane.
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And when you were watching it, too, and you mentioned Anthony Davis, he's at his best when he's getting to the free throw line.
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He's at his best when he's shooting 10 15 20 free throws because that shows he's being aggressive.
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And like I mentioned, if you check out his shot chart, you'll see a lot of his Mrs King from outside get 13 today.
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One jumper, but the 45 degree there at the at the elbow just extended.
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But other than that, I mean, he wasn't We just wasn't a factor with it.
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And I agree with you.
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Yeah, the rim protection for Lando is pretty **** good, but at the same time, you want to see you get some of those guys in the foul trouble.
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And if Anthony Davis is able to get to the rim and the defense does collapse down on him, he could be able to kick it out for some more open shots.
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Guys, that KCP, who was hitting today and played, played pretty well, had to hit a couple of big shots or that before seven from beyond the arc.
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So you want to get those guys going, you can, too.
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But I think that's gonna be a key for the Lakers, especially against the championship teams.
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Is making sure 80 has been aggressive.
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Yeah, I agree that you need that aggressive Anthony Davis.
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And look, this is probably just an off night for him, right? Because we've seen him.
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He's the rating player of the week.
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We've seen him play much better.
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So one night, Okay, that's fine.
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Now let's see what he does the next outing coming up against the Miami Heat.
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That's gonna be important for them now.
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When we look at this game, too, and you talk about KCP, he stepped up and made some big shots.
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KCP is probably thinking, man, I better start hit some shots because Avery Bradley is back and he's going to try to try to take my job here.
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So K C P.
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5 to 10 shooting four of seven from three that the Lakers did a really nice job getting him open, looks from the short corner and then letting him cast away from there.
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And KCP did a nice job knocking down 15 points.
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Tonight was pretty big part of the wind.
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Jared Dudley three for four before getting kicked out of the game.
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He pushed the entire Orlando team and one shove before the before the season started on Media Day.
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Jared Dudley's I'm paraphrasing but basically said he's ready to pay the fine.
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If anybody steps up to any of the Lakers players, especially LeBron or a D, he's gonna be that guy jumping in there.
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And sure enough, the Magic started pushing around Dwight Howard in came Jared Dudley flying into the fray, and he winds up getting kicked out of the game.
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I kind of like it I loved I loved Jared Dudley.
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I love I love what he brings the team, you know he's not gonna play every night.
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Although he played 21 minutes Today.
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It's done a lot of DNP CDs as well.
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But you need guys like that on your team, man, especially as you're 11 12 guys who who's gonna come out there happened.
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You could tell the teammates love them when they were going back after a time out and celebrating.
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I mean, everybody was happy off the bench, giving him high fives and just like, yeah, you know what I mean? Like, this is doing his job and expect to see him do that.
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But you need people like that on your team.
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Who? Everybody on this plot.
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The players know that this guy has our back, and you saw obviously what he did there, jumping it against every every single Orlando Magic run in there.
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It's a basketball.
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It's a basketball.
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That's right.
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That's right.
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You push a little bit, but that's about it.
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Yeah, they kicked out.
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But, you know, I just love what he brings to the table in terms of the energy and really his leadership.
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You ever hear a lot of the guys talk about him, too, in terms of what he is at practice and and kind of.
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He's one of those glue guys.
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So for me, I think that was a great signing.
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Who knows if he's ever gonna get off the bench in a playoff game? But so far, I'm just enjoying that.
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Anytime we do get to see him on the court, I'm actually enjoying it.
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Yeah, me too.
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It's something where I like the way he positions himself.
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You can see the athleticism isn't there on uncertain place, right? You can.
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You can tell that he just doesn't have that burst that he would need.
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But he does a nice job mitigating that with just being in the right spot.
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And then if he can knock down the open threes, that at least makes it okay to have him out there on the floor.
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And that's not gonna be that way Every single night, there's gonna be nights where you can't have him out there, But every once in a while, it's great to have him in there and you know that he just showed everybody on the team that he's got their back.
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And in terms of camaraderie in terms of leadership and all those sorts of things, all those intangibles Jared Dudley just proved a lot so I kind of like what we saw from him.
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But the only reason why he even played because Karl Kruse was out again Are you worried about that? The fact that Kyle Kuzma, who was supposed to be over this, this sprained ankle that he had from what a week and 1/2 ago or so he's been playing and then suddenly the Lakers go, it's still bothering him.
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We're gonna hold him out to get him to 100%.
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Is that a little weird? Like, are you concerned at all about Kyle Kuzma? And is this kind of fishy the way this is, the way they're playing this? Well, I think you've been looking at ankle independent won't take my ankle sprain you had right? It wasn't a high ankle sprain.
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Or was it low, low angle? Do you remember? I don't know, something.
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I know I don't take a very long time.
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T hell, and it's just a funny way because the foot could just swell up just based off running and practicing.
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And the next day you could wake up in the morning and your uncle swimming again.
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So is the concerning in terms of he hasn't been at his best this season.
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Yes, that might be a factor into.
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And if it's gonna be a long term thing, then I so I would suggest resting them now and trying to get him fully healthy for running the new Year.
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If it's just one of those things that hey, you know what cleared up? Not not No, not nothing too serious.
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Just need a couple nights off, then That'll be okay, too, because we mentioned this before.
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Kyle Kuzma is imperative for this team that he gets going.
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So whatever it is that need to get him 100% whether that's physically or mentally, the Lakers gotta make sure they're doing that on a side note.
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Who wins in a race You are.
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You are Jared Dudley, 100 meter sprint.
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Oh, Jared Dudley, he said.
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He's a professional athlete.
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He's still gonna beat me.
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There's no there's no question there, Right, Jerry? Jared Dudley is going to win that race.
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Each and every state every time.
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I can't remember the last time I ran, ran like, full on sprinted for more than you know, maybe 15 or 20 yards or something like that, So Jared Dudley is definitely gonna win there.
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Okay.
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No, no question.
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Uh, I'm getting all kinds of comments.
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Uh, Karsten Benedict Bhuvan from YouTube said, Why did Vogel take LEBRON out late in the game? Magic almost caught up.
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That is why LeBron was not happy in his interview.
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I didn't see Lebron's interviews.
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I don't know if he was unhappy or whatever, but what do you think about that when I knew it was coming? Because we've seen Vote will do this.
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He likes toe to sub LeBron out for, like, two minutes.
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But it's kind of crunch time, and there's been a few times where he's left him in.
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But in this one, he felt comfortable.
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Something amount.
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I always get nervous.
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Are you okay with it? Jazz.
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The timing of it isn't probably what you'd see from a typical coach.
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No, it's not.
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But again, Frank Vogel, that's what he's been all season.
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That's been his m o.
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He's not doing the typical thing.
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Sometimes LeBron's playing the 1st 7 minutes of the first quarter.
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Sometimes he's playing nine.
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Sometimes he's playing all 12.
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And so what I like about Frank Vogel, the job that he's done so far is he hasn't been predictable.
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And if he's looking at it and saying, OK, LeBron maybe look a little bit tired, you know, coaches know they can.
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They can tell by a player's body language by how they're breathing by their energy levels.
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Maybe he looked at it and said, All right, you know what? I'm not liking what I'm seeing from LeBron.
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I want to get some defense into this game because maybe he's a little bit slower, are tired.
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So let's go.
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Let's get Caruso back in for a couple of possessions here because what? They were up, I think seven or eight at that point on, I know LeBron missed those two free throws, which again might be a sign of tired legs or whatever it is.
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So I'm not gonna complain about anything Frank Global does, because right now he's the head coach of a thief that is 22 3 So whatever he's doing, he's pushing the right button.
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Yeah, it certainly worked so far, and part of that might just be preserving LeBron giving him enough rest for that final burst.
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I'm assuming that in really close games, he's not gonna pull LeBron about that for a minute? No, No spell there, anything like that.
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But it is.
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I can see where fans would get nervous, especially this game.
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I thought last game against the Wolves, the Lakers did okay when LeBron wasn't on the floor this game, they really struggled.
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And so pulling amount there was risky.
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The magic actually started to catch up, and then he was able to put him back in, and then they put the game away.
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But, uh, yeah, look, it's a tough thing, and I think most coaches out there probably wouldn't have the stomach for it Probably would not do that.
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But Vogel, given that the team has been winning and that they're finding success, feels comfortable and secure enough to go ahead and make what would be a questionable move for most coaches and pull your best player or your co best player during crunch time.
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And he does it to get a morass.
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Tha then finished the game off.
00:14:26
Okay, I'm gonna put you on the spot a little bit again. Now, with this question.
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Okay.
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If Tyler Tyler was the coach of this team like they wanted him to be.
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Would they be 22 3 right now? That's tough to say.
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Uh, I'm gonna say no, just because that's such a high bar, Right? To be 22 3 that's not easy.
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And you think about some of the rotations that Frank Vogel is made.
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You think about some of the positive things that he's done something good.
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Call some of the defense that the team has shown.
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I'm not 100% sure certain that they would be doing that with Tyler.
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And that's not to say that Louis a bad coach.
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That's not to say they couldn't be 22 3 I'm just saying there's a a better than 50% chance that they wouldn't be OK, so I'm going to say no.
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But again, I'm not saying that because I'm saying Frank Vogel is clearly the better coach than Tyler or anything.
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I'm just saying that along the way they could have made some different decisions that may have impacted the outcome of a few of these games, sir, I know, but that's what I'm going with.
00:15:23
That's OK.
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No, no, that's all right.
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You know.
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You know you're playing it safe on that.
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We don't want to put you on the spot too much, but now I'm just messing with you.
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Next time I run into Tyler, I don't want to be mad at me, which happens all the time.
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So you know you all about the same height, though, aren't you? Right, You entitle you wait a few days, I can see eye to eye with him and Thomas Mann of the three of us were together.
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Hang out, talk about We talk about the air down here and and all that.
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But you know what? You're right, man.
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What you were saying? I think that if they had time, Lou, maybe maybe they make a couple of quality in a couple of different decisions, and it might cost in a game or two.
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But to me, I not only Lakers fans, but immediate members around around the country and around the n.
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B A.
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We're saying it's Frank Vogel really going to be the right coach for this.
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And how is he gonna fit? And well, you know, we talked about it that Jason Kidd's be hovering over his shoulder, and if they get off to a bad start, Like I said, he silenced everything so far, so easy, making all the right calls and on all the right decisions.
00:16:17
So so for me, if you look at that game and said, you know what, We need to get LeBron off here for a minute because he looks like he needs it.
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I'm gonna trust his instinct.
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But I agree with you in a game like if they were playing, if that was a one point game or a two point game, he's leaving.
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He's leaving LeBron in the whole time.
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Yeah, agreed.
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I think you would.
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And, uh, and that's why you have to take advantage of games like this, where you're up by 10.
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Then you've got to make sure that you pulled LeBron get Emma's.
00:16:37
Much rest is as he needs, just let's move on.
00:16:40
Let's talk about some of the moves that were made today, Zack nor vegetable.
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Zach Carvell gets waved.
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A lot of people remember after a few weeks ago, people were saying, Get rid of KCP start Zach doorbell.
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He got waiting by.
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The Lakers was on the two way contract.
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You can only have two of them.
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The other one is occupied by coasters onto Lupo.
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And instead the Lakers gave the to a contract to Davante K ****.
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What are your thoughts on that? I was pretty surprised myself.
00:17:05
Yeah, I was interesting.
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I mean, I thought he was doing a decent job in with, uh with the South Bay Lakers, and he hasn't been.
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It wasn't great.
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Wasn't as good as he was looking at when he was playing with, uh, with the Lakers in the preseason.
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A couple of those games that he had, but interesting.
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I mean, they must see something in him that they didn't like.
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And then they looked at it and said What he brings to the table, and that's it's an interesting decision.
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Do I wish that Norville Well, I hope whatever he ends up, you know, he does a good job.
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Ultimately, it does get a shot at the MBA eventually, but, um, yeah, interesting decision.
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He's putting up 13 points, three rebounds to assist with South Bay.
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So why do you think that? Why do you think they made that choice? Yeah, I thought so.
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This I think it's one of two things and I don't know.
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I don't know what the story is behind it, but my thought is maybe he got a big offer overseas.
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That's possible. And so the Lakers.
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As you know, maybe Norville went to them and said, Hey, I've got this.
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I've got an opportunity to make some big money going and playing in Spain or wherever.
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Right? Go, go play overseas somewhere.
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Then maybe that's the reason why you let him out of his contract and then he can go make his money.
00:18:04
Okay, so there's There's one possibility.
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The other possibility is looking at what the Lakers have.
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So if you have a guy on a two way contract, that's a guy that, in theory is going to come play some minutes for you at some point, or at least could Yeah, And if you look with the Lakers got they have a ton of guards.
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You Avery Bradley coming back.
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You've got Alex Caruso.
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You've got TVs, Couple of Pope, Danny Green, Troy Daniels, Quinn, Cook, Rondo.
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All these players, right? They can all play at the very least, the one and some of them, the one and the two, some of them just the two, right.
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But you have.
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You have all these guards.
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And that's what Zack Norvell is to what? You don't have a ton of his guys who can play in the post.
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Guys who can really be a body underneath.
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So, like, let's say one of JaVale McGee or Dwight Howard got hurt.
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Yeah, the knee jerk reaction would be to say, Okay, Anthony Davis is more of a full time center then.
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But maybe you still want another big body that you can put in there.
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And that's where having a guy like a **** as long as well as on to take a bow, make some sense on the two way deal.
00:19:00
So I don't know for sure, but those of it to rationalizations that popped into my head for why the Lakers may have done that.
00:19:07
Yeah, and maybe they saw something in cost.
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This is as well.
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It's a **** that they're like, All right, you know what? This is that these two guys are more further long.
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Or maybe we can develop them or going forward, and they have a shot at being MBA rotation guys. Good.
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Let's I'm gonna twist that.
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None of those three are gonna be invitation for stars.
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you know what I mean? Like, if you're able to get those guys out there for 10 15 minutes a night and they're doing it consistently, that means that they had a successful career and then they did a good job developing them.
00:19:30
So it was interesting to me because I liked what I saw from Tacna Bell in the preseason, just in terms of his shooting, his fearlessness, his defense.
00:19:38
Always love lefty shooters internal.
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I just I just I think that says food when they do it.
00:19:41
But, you know, for me, it was a bit surprising to see that, but again, there they're looking at this from a long term perspective, and it was probably more important for them two to have a different skill set that they want to develop.
00:19:54
Or like you mentioned, who knows? Maybe we'll see something from him, like you said, signing in Europe somewhere for a lot more money than he was gonna make here.
00:19:59
Yeah, and look, hopefully that's the case, because more power to my hope that Zach Norville find success.
00:20:05
And who knows? It could be something where he's released from his to a contract and he winds up sticking with the Lakers and the D League.
00:20:10
That's possible, too.
00:20:11
We don't know for sure exactly how it's all gonna play out.
00:20:14
It was a bit shocking to see, but they're not doing it for nothing right there, not just doing it for fun or anything like that, eh? Let's shuffle some players around.
00:20:22
No, that's not what's happening here.
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There is a reason behind it.
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We just don't know exactly what that reason is yet, But at some point we will.
00:20:30
Yeah, there's a method to the madness that they're that they're doing it for.
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So I mean, you know, we'll figure out what that is, whether they have their eyes on somebody else or they're looking at another undrafted free agent or somebody else in the juvie.
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Whatever it is, I'm sure we'll hear the reasoning.
00:20:41
Obviously, maybe in the next couple of days, if not the next couple weeks, for sure, Yeah.
00:20:44
Um, other piece of news that came out was via the athletic.
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This was in a peace that mentioned a guy named D'Angelo Russell, who Lakers fans are pretty familiar with.
00:20:56
So Anthony Slater, from the athletic and a piece was really, really good all about D'Angelo.
00:21:01
Russell threw in a little tidbit about Russell.
00:21:05
He did get a max deal with the Golden State Warriors for four years, but said that they also had an offer on the table fromthe Lakers for four years.
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About 100 million.
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Also an offer on the table for the Wolves for a little bit more than that.
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But so now we know that the Lakers were indeed, and this had been our thought process.
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And this has been what we had heard that the Lakers fallback plan to Kawai Leonard was D'Angelo Russell.
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That's who they were hoping to go snag.
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Kawai wound up taking too long.
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The Warriors Max offer was on the table.
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D'Angelo was thinking, Gosh, you know, I've got Max money right here.
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Even if the Lakers offer was available right now, which it's not because Kawai hasn't decided, how do you turn down a max deal compared to when the Lakers were offering, you know, 17 million or so less? And so he just went ahead and took the Warriors offer and they made that sign and trade deal with Kevin Durant in order to get Daniel Russell to the Golden State Warriors.
00:21:54
But still, let's talk about the Lakers side of that.
00:21:56
The fact that their Plan B was D'Angelo Russell Initially, what are your thoughts on that? Just you know what, looking back, I mean, I think at the time I probably would have said, Yeah, it's a good move because you're bringing in another all star caliber player with an All Star season last year with Brooklyn.
00:22:14
But, um, I'm looking at it now.
00:22:16
I think it was a blessing in disguise, right? Because a you're gonna end up not having in the room for a guy like Danny Green.
00:22:21
Then you wouldn't know.
00:22:22
Don't agree.
00:22:23
Maybe a profoundly whatever it is, two or three guys on the roster now probably wouldn't be on the team if D'Angelo Russell was here.
00:22:28
And this is no disrespect to D'Angelo Russell, but I think he's a very good scorer, and I think he can.
00:22:32
He can develop still into into being a little bit more than that as he goes further along in his career.
00:22:37
But to me, he's a clunky fit on this roster, and that's where I think that's as good as he is in terms of his skill set and you could fill it up.
00:22:43
And you know, any night you go out for 40 if, but he has to have the ball in his hands, and he has to be the predominant guy who's running the offense from the top of the key.
00:22:51
You're not running D'Angelo Russell off of screens all the time and hoping to get him over into, you know, curl off, curl off screens and hit open jumpers.
00:22:58
You're looking at me, Andrew like Okay, go play Isil ball.
00:23:00
He's almost like a poor man's James Harden in that way, you know what I mean? Like, just go stand at the top of the key and create offense and and so for me, I don't like the fit, But it was interesting that they were actually circled back and said, Hey, you know what? Like we have an offer for you here, you know, in case things don't go well with Ally, what do you think about that? I think it's interesting.
00:23:17
I think that when we're looking at it initially, our first thought has to be.
00:23:21
What would this have cost them? Right? So who didn't get because they didn't get D'Angelo Russell, and you're on the money on the 1st 1 So? So Danny Green is making 14.
00:23:28
6 million this season gone.
00:23:30
No way they could afford that.
00:23:31
Right? So he's he's out because you have to figure, Russell, if the deal is 100 million, probably start around 20 to wish 1,000,023 which is what we're guessing it would probably start out during the during the off season.
00:23:42
We were saying that it would probably start somewhere in there.
00:23:45
So if you are the Lakers and you're gonna give him 22 that means no Danny Green.
00:23:50
And then you're also potentially looking at no contagious couple Pope, which I can't see.
00:23:55
I mean, I think if that was the swap out, no KCP and no Danny Green. But you have D'Angelo.
00:24:01
Russell, would you do that? Uh, knowing what I know now, before the season? Well, knowing what I know now know.
00:24:09
And now I'm saying it from the perspective of what I see from the team on the court, in terms of what they run and how and how they do things to me.
00:24:16
I just think, um, the annual gross is a better score than Kyle Kuzma, but I think that's what you kind of see with them in terms of, you know, with whose the struggle has been.
00:24:27
I'm not having the ball in my hands all the time or, you know, being able to create and do my own thing.
00:24:30
And they're not running plays for me all the time.
00:24:32
And I think that's where D'Angelo Russell would have kind of gotten stuck in that kind of no man's land in terms of I'm not really a spot up shooter.
00:24:39
I need the ball in my hand, but obviously with 80 and LeBron in this, glad I'm not gonna get to do that.
00:24:44
So looking at it now.
00:24:45
But I mean in the summer time, if you're gonna ask me deal Oh, or Danny Green and KCP, I would've said Take the low in a heartbeat.
00:24:51
So bright idea worked out better in the long term for the Lakers.
00:24:53
Yeah, a lot.
00:24:54
A lot of people in the chat here timing it and saying no, they would not do that.
00:24:57
Some people Danieli Hayes from Facebook, saying he would have done that.
00:25:01
However, I'll say the K C P part of it.
00:25:03
I don't think it's realistic.
00:25:04
I think KCP was coming back.
00:25:05
You've got the clutch sports connection.
00:25:07
So rather than any green and KCP, I just used him because I thought that that would be the least amount that you would have to have to sacrifice in order to bring in D'Angelo.
00:25:16
Russell More likely you're probably looking at Danny Green.
00:25:19
And then perhaps Avery Bradley and JAVALE McGee together could have could have made up that kind of money.
00:25:26
Perhaps you're looking at somebody like like maybe you don't have the money to give to a guy named Alex Caruso.
00:25:32
Maybe you can No, no, no.
00:25:33
Now we can't do we can.
00:25:34
We can never talk about that.
00:25:36
Okay? Looks gruesome.
00:25:38
Living in a world that's yeah, that's blasphemy.
00:25:44
Right there.
00:25:45
Like like that Doesn't feel good saying, Hey, they may.
00:25:47
They may have had to let liken Alex Caruso go in order to make room for D'Angelo Russell.
00:25:51
And I think that's where even more people would draw the line and they'd say, OK, well, no.
00:25:55
You know, if it's Danny Green and JaVale and Alex Caruso, I think there'll be more likely to say No, that's not worth it compared to just Danny Green and Casey Casey, right? Yeah.
00:26:07
Yeah.
00:26:08
So that's probably with the Lakers.
00:26:10
Wanted doing it.
00:26:12
So I I don't think that they came out on the wrong end of this.
00:26:15
But there is another side to this argument, right? And you look at Daniel Russell's still young.
00:26:19
I believe he's about 24 23 somewhere in there.
00:26:22
He's still a very talented player.
00:26:24
He's a guy who can score out of the pick and roll, especially he's got passing skills.
00:26:28
He's got size, he's got up.
00:26:30
So he's got more upside.
00:26:32
Then, say Danny Green or even Captain America.
00:26:35
Alex Caruso.
00:26:36
Even though I feel gross saying that, right? All that any of those guys, he's more upside than any of those players.
00:26:41
Yeah, so look, there's an argument to be made either way.
00:26:44
I guess it is the way we can go with this.
00:26:46
You could say that they should have gone with D'Angelo Russell, but I think things ultimately worked out for the best the way that they did.
00:26:54
Yeah, I agree with you, and that's what I'm looking at it to get long term.
00:26:56
If you're against you.
00:26:57
I'm looking at it like this is such a multi pronged question, right, Because if you're like, Well, if you would have ah D'Angelo Russell for the next eight years or write you no combination of Danny Greene and Caruso and Javale McGee for three years, you know, you got away all the little factors like that for me.
00:27:14
I'm looking at it from this season alone.
00:27:17
It was a blessing that the Lakers didn't get him just cause I just don't think his game suits Would Anthony Davis and LeBron James do out there? Because those two guys need space and they want to be able to create a pick and rolls.
00:27:27
They want to be able to give the ball download to a D A.
00:27:29
Let him go to work, either in the higher the mid post, wherever he's able to get her towards the the block makes it extended.
00:27:35
You don't have to be between the pain and the three point line, But if the Angelo Russell's out there were, you know he just doesn't fit the offense.
00:27:41
And the way things were gonna go so again long term, Yeah, maybe you want to say Daniel Russel is worth it, But in the short term, I think it worked out great for the Lakers. They didn't.
00:27:50
I'm committing to Yeah, I think the guys that they got are a better fit, even if D'Angelo Russell might be the better talent and that I guess that kind of piggybacks on or these mimics the discussion we've been having about Carmelo Anthony versus Jared Dudley fit versus talent and I think you go back to the same thing here again gandal Russell.
00:28:08
Probably the better talent than those guys that the Lakers wound up getting.
00:28:11
But in terms of fit, I think the way this team has been playing, you have to say that they they got, they got the best side of this.
00:28:18
Yeah, and you can have it.
00:28:19
You know what we saw that happened even with like, it's been a long time now, but the old three or four teams you have Yet Hayden and and Malone again at the end of their career is not exactly the superstars that they were at one point.
00:28:29
But Gary Payton was a terrible fit in that offense, right in the triangle offense.
00:28:33
He just he looked lost and Derek Fisher was was the better option.
00:28:36
So you're looking at it in terms of Yeah, he's a bigger name and he probably could score 20.
00:28:39
15 points a game on Fisher's gonna give you eight.
00:28:42
But it doesn't matter about scoring at that point because you have to super duper stars on your team.
00:28:47
We're gonna combine to score 50 points a night regardless.
00:28:49
So I just don't think there's room for deal. Oh, to be a bit offensive.
00:28:52
His main thing is all offensive being offensive weapon.
00:28:54
And he just wasn't gonna be that on this team.
00:28:56
Yeah, that's just it, right If if you get D'Angelo Russell, let's say you bring him into this Lakers team.
00:29:03
You're not talking about the same guy you saw in Brooklyn.
00:29:06
You're not talking about the same guy that you're seeing right now in Golden State with no Steph Curry and with no play cops and all those pieces, you're not talking about a guy that can have the ball in his hands all the time, right? Because the ball is gonna be on LeBron James hands if you're If you're giving Russell the ball to run high pick and roll the time.
00:29:19
That means you've got LeBron spotting up, and I don't think that's what you want.
00:29:22
That's not official.
00:29:23
So most likely for D'Angelo Russell to really be himself.
00:29:26
He's got the what, 13 minutes that LeBron James is off the floor.
00:29:32
Yeah, that's the time to shine right and that we don't know how comfortable I feel with that.
00:29:36
Do you want to pay 23 million for 13 minutes of D'Angelo Russell at his best, and the rest of the time he's a bit more of an awkward fit? Probably not, No, And I know that's what you know.
00:29:46
I know, I know.
00:29:47
A lot of people look at it and say, Well, you just signed all the talented guys Golden State doing that and any they Obviously, they drafted three of those guys in the bottom to rent.
00:29:54
It was done in a way of those.
00:29:57
It was almost a special cir***stance because all four of those guys just bought a different skill set, right? I mean, Steph Curry and Klay Thompson.
00:30:03
Clay Thompson doesn't have to take a dribble, and you'll score 20 points in 1/4 of its hot.
00:30:07
You know, what I'm saying when you saw that happen, too, so you don't want to just bring in All these guys were like, Well, he could score 20.
00:30:12
He could score 20 and he could score 25 because it's not a fit for it.
00:30:15
Where that warriors seemed to me was like an outlier in the sense that because Kevin Durant yeah, you want the ball.
00:30:20
But you can run Kevin Durant off screens all day.
00:30:22
Steph Curry, Klay Thompson on screens all day and dream on Green doesn't really care about scoring.
00:30:27
And so if the Lakers were looking at that in terms of just bringing in talent, I think they did the right thing by having Okay, you know what? We've got Danny Green here for a few years.
00:30:34
We have the money for KCP.
00:30:35
We have the money for Alex Caruso.
00:30:37
We have some money lying around for everybody.
00:30:38
Whoever it is, they were able to kind of fill out the roster rather than committing tough, because without without those with the Angel's Russell, how many of these guys are off our off the squad? You know what I mean? And and we don't know who we don't know who it could've would've been right now with the way that chemistry is in the way the rotations are.
00:30:53
I think that obviously hit the nail on the head with that one, but not signing.
00:30:55
I'll tell you what.
00:30:56
Just I think that the way things played out is even more impressive for a Republican.
00:31:03
Yeah, they hearing this now knowing that games were Russell was Plan B, which is fine, right? I mean, in the moment, back then in the summer, you could you could make it even more solid argument for going D'Angelo Russell.
00:31:12
So I don't fault Pelinka if that really was his plan B.
00:31:15
But planning is Kawai.
00:31:17
If Plan B is D'Angelo Russell, look how quickly Plan c came together, right? Like years of Russell decided, what, 36 hours, maybe 48 hours before collided.
00:31:28
Like it wasn't There wasn't a whole lot of time there.
00:31:30
And yet as soon as the Kawai decision became known, boom, the signing started dropping.
00:31:35
Lakers get Danny like, almost immediately, it was in a okay.
00:31:39
Danny Green is now a Laker.
00:31:40
And then it was Quinn Cook, and then it was DeMarcus cousins, and it was boom, boom, boom, boom, boom because Pelinka hand that plan all laid out he had all of his ducks in a row and ready.
00:31:49
And hearing that Plan B was D'Angelo Russell.
00:31:51
That means that he didn't have nearly as much time to set up Plan C.
00:31:56
And yet he was able to still executed.
00:31:57
I think that's pretty impressive.
00:31:59
Well, that's what happens when you don't have ah, grandfather Magic Johnson in the office next to you, trying to tell you all these ridiculous things that you have to do it.
00:32:06
It was good to see Rob Pelinka, an agent, a former basketball player, Kobe's agent.
00:32:11
He obviously knows what he's doing in terms of planning ahead and having this stuff.
00:32:14
I just think he was.
00:32:15
He was almost hamstrung by having Magic Johnson in the building.
00:32:17
So that was That was the best thing that happened.
00:32:19
The Lakers Magic Johnson decided to randomly resign that one fateful day lives here.
00:32:23
So the fact that let me let me throw this at you, though, before I you know I don't want derailed too much, we're gonna get back to previewing the Miami Heat game.
00:32:32
But if the Lakers if Magic Johnson had state.
00:32:36
Right.
00:32:37
Let's assume Luke Walton gets fired still, right.
00:32:38
They're gonna bring in another coaching.
00:32:39
All that Magic Johnson stays is Kawai, Leonard Laker knowing Allie's relationship with magic.
00:32:47
Ooh, and there's no right or wrong answer here, right? Yeah, I Yeah, I would say, Yeah, they would have had more of a shot at Kawai, but, um, at the same time, Magic added, I know no disrespecting.
00:32:59
Like I said, he's one of the greatest, if not the arguably the greatest Laker of all time will be saying that on the court off the court, he was like, you bought, like, a dark cloud over the organization.
00:33:08
You know what I'm saying? As soon as he came in the outlanders crap, he would say everything else.
00:33:12
So I feel like even if they did find a way to get collide, maybe they wouldn't have button Anthony Davis and, um, things that, you know, the other guys wouldn't want to play here.
00:33:20
Would they have a better shot of quiet? Yeah, but I still don't think this would be 22 3 and Magic Johnson was the president.
00:33:26
Yeah, I could see that.
00:33:27
Who goes, who knows who would be on the roster, right? I mean, this is the thing with the smooth talking about.
00:33:35
He's got you thinking, shooting.
00:33:36
We saw the end result what? He had unlimited cap space of what he could bring in.
00:33:40
He bought LeBron great.
00:33:41
LeBron is gonna come here anyways.
00:33:42
I don't think that was that hard to recruit him, but at the same time, it's like, Come on, man, like, you know he was.
00:33:47
He was just not a good he was just not good at his job.
00:33:50
And I don't think the team would be in the position that it's in right now.
00:33:52
If you were still calling the shots like Nick Young would probably be a Laker.
00:33:55
But nothing gets Nick Young.
00:33:56
I love Nick Young, but that's the type of player would have gone after.
00:34:00
And that's that's what we see on the Lakers, right? J.
00:34:02
R.
00:34:03
Smith.
00:34:04
I should say J J R.
00:34:05
Smith would be a Laker still still magical in those shots there.
00:34:07
Instead of like any Avery Bradley or somebody alone goes Byron Scott.
00:34:10
Byron Scott would be the coach.
00:34:14
Oh, that's that's Ah, those are some unpleasant memories they're They're sure.
00:34:20
Ah, lot of scowling and a lot of Byron Scott folding his arms on the sidelines and hey, say something.
00:34:25
Just it's not gonna kill you talking players.
00:34:30
Oh, by the way, that in the piece on the athletic D'Angelo Russell mentioned he basically said, You think you think just a mess with Byron Scott? And just because you could have had an attitude so he would he would go the long way around to the bench so you wouldn't have to talk to the judge is okay, because he was mad. They seldom out.
00:34:47
We've come so far. Jazz Wait.
00:34:52
So, Friday, the Lakers take on the Miami Heat Miami team, That is pretty good.
00:34:57
I mean, this is one of the better teams in the Eastern Conference and taking a peek at the standings right now.
00:35:02
I know they were almost a top four last time, either.
00:35:05
Second, their second.
00:35:06
Now they moved up, So their 2nd yeah, they are 18 and six.
00:35:10
Hey, guess what? Jazz The Celtics lost tonight.
00:35:14
Oh, yeah.
00:35:16
Hey, it's another reason why there are struggling now to Milwaukee team looking looking deadly, though.
00:35:20
Yeah, that's that's gonna be a tough one for the Lakers, for sure, but they've got to get through Miami first. Miami is a good team.
00:35:26
They have a point differential plus 5.
00:35:28
8, which is is pretty darn solid.
00:35:31
Uh, they are.
00:35:33
I mean, they're a good team.
00:35:34
They're good defensive team.
00:35:36
Erik Spoelstra is a good coach, so they're they're well coached.
00:35:39
This is not time when Miami went zone, and then the Lakers figured it out in the second half.
00:35:43
But who knows what they're going to deploy this time? Most likely, Spencer is not gonna do the same thing again.
00:35:48
So on and on the road, right. Traveling.
00:35:52
Not gonna be easy.
00:35:53
So I'm expecting this to be a tough game work.
00:35:55
If the Lakers play like they did tonight against Miami, I think they lose, 100%.
00:36:00
I think that that's that's totally true of Miami's 11 to know at home as well.
00:36:04
So they're completely different beast playing and playing at in their own arena compared to anywhere else.
00:36:08
So I'm looking at this.
00:36:10
Miami is a very balanced squad.
00:36:11
I mean, you got a ton of guys that are averaging double figures on that team.
00:36:14
I think, What is it? 1 to 6 or seven guys.
00:36:16
So they're deep.
00:36:18
I think the key to this one is gonna make sure that the guys off the bench and again we don't know what cruiser status is. Rondo.
00:36:24
We don't know, you know, if he might be able to show up and play or not.
00:36:26
But I think it's got to be that they got to get some offensive contributions from their bench in that game because of how deep the eat are and how much how much they could score with their roster has constructed.
00:36:36
I think LeBron and 80 will do their thing, but they they're gonna need some of those other guys to step up like we saw Caruso get 14 16 points last game.
00:36:43
They need one or two of the guys off the bench to be able to do that.
00:36:45
Yeah, agreed.
00:36:46
You know, you mentioned that that the Miami Heat are unbeaten at home.
00:36:51
The Lakers are pretty darn good on the road to they have been a good, good road team this year.
00:36:57
Well, they're unbeaten away from Staples Center, I guess.
00:36:59
Their first game, Technically it was a road game right, Technically, but can't really count.
00:37:04
Is that when they're in L.
00:37:05
A.
00:37:06
And they're at Staples Center.
00:37:07
But technically, it was It was the Clippers floor, but still, So the Lakers right now heading into Miami.
00:37:11
Look, it's gonna be a tough one.
00:37:13
It's gonna be one that that they're gonna have to deal with bam at a bio.
00:37:16
I know can get Miami out in transition and running.
00:37:19
The crowd's gonna be fired up.
00:37:21
Goran Dragic always seems to have big games when he plays against the Lakers.
00:37:24
So that's gonna be something to do with their.
00:37:27
This is a strong team, even though they don't have a whole lot of household names.
00:37:30
Although there is this guy named Jimmy Butler there who is competitive is hell and can give the Lakers to fight all throughout the game.
00:37:37
So I'm excited to see the Lakers step up for this one, and I think it's a nice step up before you deal with, like, Atlanta and then eventually make your way to some tougher teams in Indiana who beat the Celtics tonight and then the big showdown with the Milwaukee Bucks.
00:37:51
Yeah, this is again.
00:37:52
This is where this is what we want to see.
00:37:54
The Lakers play a level up in competition, right? There's always a little bit more.
00:37:58
Even when they played against Denver and then they end up on that beat down on Utah.
00:38:02
There's a little bit more juice to the game before because, you know both teams are good.
00:38:05
The Lakers are right now, clearly head and shoulders above, you know, almost every single team in the league.
00:38:09
Except for maybe the Clippers in the West.
00:38:11
The Bucks are not connect with L.
00:38:13
A as well, but playing a team like Miami was that who's got that good of a record? These are the games that you get up for.
00:38:18
These are the games that you want to see.
00:38:20
So maybe maybe those guys were have there, have there, you know, they were looking past the magic.
00:38:24
A little bit of thinking, eh? We got to go to South Beach, maybe stay a night there, depending on their travel schedule.
00:38:28
So they could have contacted my heavy and looking forward to that game too.
00:38:31
So they're gonna be ready like you mentioned you.
00:38:33
Have.
00:38:34
You have a stretch of 18 20 minutes where they play the way they did in that second and third quarter.
00:38:37
Uh, it'll be lights out real quick, real quick. On Friday night.
00:38:40
Yeah, you mentioned that this Miami team has so much death.
00:38:42
Kendrick Nunn has been tremendous.
00:38:44
He's one of the favorites right now for rookie of the year, which is which is pretty amazing.
00:38:48
He's been playing extremely well for them as it as a guard payment.
00:38:52
A bio like I mentioned has been been huge for them, getting a lot of assists from the center position, running the floor.
00:38:57
Well, he's been tremendous.
00:38:59
They have guys who can put the ball in the basket.
00:39:01
They have guys who could defend.
00:39:02
They have guys who can shoot.
00:39:04
They don't have a whole lot of star power aside from Jimmy Butler, but this is a team that plays really well together, so it's gonna be a dangerous one for the Lakers, and I can't wait to see it.
00:39:11
I want to see this Lakers team step up for sure, man, I think that what they gotta play a complete and again it's such a cliche.
00:39:17
But when you say we play a complete game like you want to see them play 35 36 minutes at their complete best.
00:39:23
And I think if they're able to do that, this will be another, another kind of feather in their cap.
00:39:27
To show that a man that championship run that anybody's thinking about having it's gonna come to us.
00:39:32
And I think this is one of the games with the Lakers can prove that, right? Let's dive into a few of the questions right here before we before we call it an evening, uh, got one from YouTube saying, Trevor, have you heard anything about Kenneth Faried? He will be available soon.
00:39:48
It seems no, and frankly, there's no need for him at this point.
00:39:51
He would have been a decent option should that things fall through Dwight Howard, but no haven't heard anything about him.
00:39:56
As I recall, he went played overseas, but I don't think he's an option for the Lakers.
00:40:00
I don't think he's anything anybody that they need right now.
00:40:02
They have Dwight.
00:40:03
They have prevailed.
00:40:04
Have a D.
00:40:05
Now you've got a fancy cake **** and coast assaulted a hippo on two way deals.
00:40:08
I think there said.
00:40:09
I don't think there's any need to go after Kenneth Faried at this point, even though I do like him as a player and I do hope you winds up somewhere.
00:40:15
I think he had a nice resurgence last year with Houston Rockets.
00:40:18
But no, I don't.
00:40:19
I don't see him find his way to the Lakers.
00:40:22
Yeah, I'm not gonna just anything other than I agree with everything that you just said they're So let's wait.
00:40:26
Go to the next one.
00:40:30
All right.
00:40:31
Let's, uh let's Dido from Jess.
00:40:33
Yeah, that's it.
00:40:34
That's all I got.
00:40:35
Uh, here's a good one.
00:40:37
King vortex from YouTube.
00:40:38
Will they boo LeBron? And I'm assuming he's talking about Miami.
00:40:42
If you are a Miami Heat fan, are you booing LeBron when he gets introduced on Friday night? No, because it's been What? When's the last time he was there? Five years now.
00:40:51
For five seasons now It was 2014 was Rose's last 2013 2014 last year, and now I mean, he bought two championships to the city.
00:40:58
Put them under the microscope of the NBA spotlight For that, that period of time.
00:41:03
No, I would bloom.
00:41:04
Why you think they should? I don't think so.
00:41:06
Bamian fans.
00:41:07
By nature, I mean, fanatics, right are not always rational.
00:41:11
And so I wouldn't be surprised if he got if he heard a few boos.
00:41:14
People probably weren't too thrilled that he left, But it's certainly not like when he left Cleveland the first time.
00:41:19
No, not like that.
00:41:20
I think it gets booze.
00:41:21
It's gonna beam.
00:41:22
Or you're the best player on the team that we want to beat.
00:41:25
Yes, you know, you know, I'm saying, Like like when some players come in L. A.
00:41:30
They get booed not because it's anything personal, but just because they're a good player like James Harden gets boot because he's a great player.
00:41:36
But people don't like the way he plays, and so they get frustrated, so he gets booed right wherever he goes.
00:41:40
That happens, eh? So I wouldn't be surprised if LeBron gets those kind of you're the guy that we want to see fail in this game type booze.
00:41:48
But I don't think there should be that resentment left over from his time in Miami and then leaving.
00:41:54
No, people are cheering Dwight Howard here, and then in the first game.
00:41:56
Come on, man, we gotta go We gotta get LeBron.
00:41:58
Gotta get LeBron a little bit of love over there.
00:42:00
If Lakers fans can forgive Dwight Howard and he could be a fan favorite that Miami fans should not boo LeBron James, I think that's a good way to look at it.
00:42:08
Just sticky Atzori season.
00:42:10
He had here that one year.
00:42:11
People still forgive LeBron Bottom two championships.
00:42:13
Look at the poor against the guy we're ashamed from.
00:42:17
Facebook says they should do a standing ovation.
00:42:19
Yeah, they probably should.
00:42:20
I wouldn't be surprised if there was some sort of a video for him or anything.
00:42:24
Yeah, like that.
00:42:25
Ah, Few people saying they didn't boo him when he was a cavalier.
00:42:28
So why would they now? Yeah, again, I don't think they should.
00:42:31
But just you know, you never know.
00:42:34
Luis Ayala is going far enough is to say Costa's on to compose should be the backup four, which I'm assuming we'll be taking Kyle Kuzma is rule.
00:42:41
Are we all off the con? Cruise? My training.
00:42:43
At this point, it's too early.
00:42:44
Don't jump.
00:42:46
He's been doing it.
00:42:48
But if you still struggle like this in January middle of January and we're giving him time and keep saying give a month to month.
00:42:53
But okay, maybe the ankle didn't fully heal.
00:42:56
He went through a sickness there.
00:42:57
He took some time away.
00:42:58
We're gonna give him the benefit of the doubt because he knows we know what he can do and he has a potential to be able to deliver.
00:43:04
So I think it's too early right now to say that.
00:43:05
Stop it.
00:43:06
Would you think that cost us answer to compose better than Kyle Kuzma right now.
00:43:10
Stop. That's ridiculous. Yes.
00:43:12
Let's, uh, let's back the back things up a little bit there.
00:43:15
Let's pump the bags Right, pal.
00:43:17
Cruz was still a good player.
00:43:18
He struggled lately, but a like we were saying KCP when he struggled with the beginning, there was a positive regression to the mean coming.
00:43:25
I think when Koosman gets healthy, we're going to see a positive regression of mean with him as well.
00:43:29
I think he is going to be going to be better soon, sooner rather than later.
00:43:34
I'm hoping middle of January at the latest.
00:43:36
Hopefully he will be, ah, be rolling.
00:43:39
Uh, let's see a few people saying we need to get Andre Iguodala.
00:43:42
We've talked about that.
00:43:43
A ton? Yes.
00:43:45
What do you think the Memphis Grizzlies are still saying? No, they're saying there is no world in which in this from Kevin O'Connor, the ringer saying There's no world in which we will wave or buy out under a vanilla.
00:43:58
And no one believes him.
00:44:00
Yes, yeah, because why would you look, if the trade deadline passes and even all is still on the Memphis Grizzlies, Nobody gives them a trade offer for him.
00:44:08
He's gonna go to the Grizzlies and say, OK, guys, having a buyout now, because clearly, I'm not gonna play for you and you can't trade me anymore.
00:44:15
I don't finish my finish my career just sitting out an entire season.
00:44:19
So let's talk about a buyout.
00:44:20
I think if they hit the trade deadline, nothing materializes.
00:44:23
The biotoxin going to brand up.
00:44:26
Until then, though, the Grizzlies are going to do everything they can to convince anyone who will listen that they will, not by Audi with all, and there's no way to get him other than to surrender assets in a trade.
00:44:36
And teams just need to be patient. My mind.
00:44:38
Yeah, you just gotta wait.
00:44:39
That 10 because that that, like you said, that's gonna come to a head once, Once the trade deadline approaching and if nothing gets done, makes the Memphis Grizzlies look bad to you.
00:44:46
Don't treat were very well respected.
00:44:49
Former n b a Finals M v P.
00:44:51
You don't treat him that way in the twilight of his career.
00:44:53
You know what? I'm trying to help him and give him a shot to go play somewhere he wants to be.
00:44:57
So, uh, whatever ends up happening there, they will figure something.
00:45:01
I don't think it teams in to give up a first round pick.
00:45:02
I just don't think Andrea Adela is worth a first round pick at this point.
00:45:05
Even even a future first round pick where it's like, three years from now on, whatever the hell they want to do with the with all the fancy stuff.
00:45:11
But, um, yeah, the Lakers could get him, and that makes him that much more deadly because I think he brings a dynamic that the Lakers will well, really, really need some time for the playoffs.
00:45:20
Yeah, 100%.
00:45:21
They will.
00:45:22
But I think what Memphis is banking on is that a team like the Clippers is gonna talk themselves into.
00:45:27
Okay, we'd better give up something to keep him away from the Lakers.
00:45:30
So let's add Memphis something.
00:45:32
Let's just let's just do it.
00:45:33
Let's figure out a trade And so you could see something like that pop up.
00:45:36
That's what Memphis is hoping.
00:45:37
They're keeping their fingers crossed and hoping that something like that happens.
00:45:41
A few people have the run of the name Marvin Williams.
00:45:44
No, madam, he's a veteran player can shoot from outside.
00:45:47
He's not the kind of guy that's gonna, you know, make or break your team, but injury, like if they don't get it, would all interesting fallback option.
00:45:54
Yeah, yeah, they're gonna have their gonna have Bill gets somebody surprising, is gonna come in.
00:45:58
They're gonna get so the market, they'll get somebody.
00:46:00
So I'm hoping it's a gondola.
00:46:02
But even if it's if it's something a little bit less, they will get something that can either bring ah dynamic wing defender and a bit of a shooter as well.
00:46:10
And that's what they need and hope you're up.
00:46:11
Blanca, who so far like you mentioned is that the lot of things, right? So, whatever, he maybe he has another plan.
00:46:17
A Plan B, Plan C by plan B all the way down the line.
00:46:19
But the Lakers will find someone come time for January for brain, once the bio market start settling it. Yeah.
00:46:24
I would be surprised if they just stood pat and didn't do anything.
00:46:27
All right, guys, why don't we wrap up there? We've got the game against Miami Heat coming up on Friday.
00:46:32
Will be doing the post game after that.
00:46:34
In fact, as long as we can get all the technical stuff figured out with it, we're gonna be joined by actually, both Jazz and Chris Masters will be joining us.
00:46:40
Is what? We'll have all three of us together have a few little wrinkles toe workout, having 1/3 person in here, but we should be able to get that done.
00:46:46
So that's exciting.
00:46:47
It's gonna be a really fun show.
00:46:49
Especially the Lakers coming into a big game against the Miami Heat.
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Everybody coming in from Facebook live already from YouTube.
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Everybody from periscope appreciate all the questions, All the comments.
00:47:01
Thank you guys.
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So much for joining us make sure you guys go follow jazz at Jazz King 21 on Twitter.
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You can follow me at Trevor.
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Underscore Lane Jazz Final comments take us out 22 3 man Doesn't matter how ugly it wasn't you take.
00:47:14
You take the w we can get him.
00:47:16
But I am really looking forward that Friday for sure.
00:47:18
22 3 You gotta love it now.
00:47:20
Hopefully after Friday there, 23 3 because that's gonna be a fun game.
00:47:26
I can't wait to see it.
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