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We start off a show each and every week with our Major League Baseball beat reporter.
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That's John Carpenter, and certainly no this December.
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Sunday, there's a lot to talk about in New York baseball.
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Let's start with the New York Yankees as it's getting towards Christmas time, you know? Are the Yankees going to end up with a lump of coal or Jared Cole by the end of the Christmas season? John.
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It certainly looks like they very well might end up with Gary Cole.
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I they put together a record offer reportedly for coal, and it looks like that.
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They're saying, OK, we're gonna use our financial might hear.
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And if the Dodgers of the Angels want to outbid us for him, God bless them.
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They could do it.
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But certainly a record breaking deal is hard to turn down, and it's hard to top as well.
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So the odds certainly look good for the Yankees getting cold right now.
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It really all depends on whether Call wants the pitch in New York tonight.
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Well, that's the thing.
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We were just talking before we went on the air for some reason.
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You know, this smells a lot like Randy Johnson for May.
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I mean, I don't know if he's the right fit here.
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I don't know also know Johnson's credit.
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He came here.
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I mean, there've been others.
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Also the Maddox back in the day that used the Yankees to drive up the price.
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I don't know.
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This is a guy who didn't sign with him when he got drafted by them.
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This was a guy who didn't come here.
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When they want their trade for him, I don't know.
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I mean, to offer a guy a record deal who two times has kind of turned you down? I don't know.
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I mean movement.
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The Yankees are in such need of a name.
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I think that they're they're wise.
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So let bygones be bygones in that respect.
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And if you're gonna, If Cole's gonna turn them down, then so be it.
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But the Yankees need an ace.
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I think if they didn't offer him a record deal because of the last two times that call was spurned them, then I think the fan base would really be on him.
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So I still say kudos to the Yankees for doing it on, But you're right.
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He has spurned the Yankees before.
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For Southern California.
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He supported him for U C L. A.
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For the first time, and then he spurred them to go to Houston, so it certainly might not workout, but the Yankees are in need of an A.
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They have the money.
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I mean, think of how much money they save, not going after pictures in the past 23 years, they have got it, so I can't fault them for at least trying.
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It's been a little bit of a change in philosophy, though, with this off season, and the fact that you know it came out this week that ownership was gonna be willing to go to that record deal today was being reported that it was a record sized deal.
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But in the same way that they didn't offer the same kind of deals to Patrick Corbin, it seems like they're now willing, like you said to go all in because of the need that they need that ace.
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Oh, absolutely.
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And it's not just that they need an ace, but that's certainly part of it.
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But it's who is who it is that's out there. Patrick Corbin.
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I mean, was, was anybody really sure about Patrick Corbin? The way people are sure about Garrett Cole now and nobody listen, nobody's assured thing, But Garrett Cole is is obviously the best pitcher in the league right now.
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When you look at his recent performance and when you look at his playoff performance, Gerrit Cole is that guy.
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And and I think the Yankees are putting are throwing money at a sure thing, which is never a bad thing.
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It's certainly not as if they're throwing 22 a half $1,000,000 a year. Jacoby Ellsbury.
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You know what a difference 12 months make last year at this time, you know, the free agent market.
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Nothing but crickets.
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Guys went, you know, spring training started.
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Guys end up signing on one year deals.
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Kaiko. Good pitching.
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Very interesting.
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Now you see how quickly guys signed, whether it be Cole Hamels, order be Zack Wheeler and a reported record deal out there for Cole.
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Big difference in one year.
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What do you make of that, John? Well, I think part of it is players see what's happening.
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What happened with other players that waited until the last minute to sign and behind the last minute to sign.
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They see what happened to a guy like Stephen Drew, who waited until May Thio Donna, major league uniform, the year he did in any, and then he got a bad 1 61 They saw a guy like Jake Gary ETA who wasn't signed until late, and they decided, Hey, I don't want to be that guy and I I've always said the club should take that into consideration also, but the clubs haven't been.
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So the players have been taking on themselves to say, Look, I don't want to be in some makeshift Scott Boris Camp in February.
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I want to be with the team on the field on a real spring training facility and ah, and take my chances and sign early.
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So So, yeah, I think people are seeing that, and the market is adjusting accordingly.
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It was also interesting you mentioned how the Yankees have the financial wherewithal, and if you are a Met fan, we have a big sigh of relief because it looks like financial wherewithal will be something you're gonna hear a lot about the next couple of years with the New York Mets.
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Ah, Stephen Kohn has now purchased.
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It's not official yet, but now an 80% share in the team, the Wilpons, will retain their positions for five years, but I'm wondering if this deal gets signed up fairly quickly.
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Do the Mets make a move and you've heard the name Mookie Betts out there and linked to the Mets? Do the Mets card a package? Maybe a Dom Smith may be a bad contract and familiar.
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And maybe Nimmo and a couple of prospects for Mookie Betts and Porcello toe a get Mookie in a year early before his free agency year.
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By that time, Cones money is there, and then they can re sign him as a free agent, and he is kind of the perfect fit for this team.
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What do you thoughts about that? I think it's certainly a possibility the way you've laid it out, because listen that Steve Colin isn't gonna be in charge right away and they're still negotiating.
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And as long as the Wilpons they're still making decisions, you have to expect more of the same, at least to a certain point.
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It's certainly something to think about in terms of trading for Mookie Betts plunking down the money and then and then having the money the following season to re sign.
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It also depends on who else is a free agent at the end of 2021.
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I mean, we'll see only English in college is a big ****ytics guy.
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Uh, so So let's see if he I don't think he's gonna come in and spend money willy nilly.
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I think he'll spend money if it makes sense.
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The difference is, if a top guy makes sense, he will spend the money for the top guy.
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So I, Mookie Betts seems to be one of those players that makes it so.
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I certainly think that that's a possibility.
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All right, Johnny is always we love hearing from you talking baseball, especially in the dead of winter.
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Sports talk New York Congressman Ryan Sherman with you this Sunday, waiting for a jade arrive someplace in traffic.
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Joining us now is a man who earn varsity letters in basketball, football and baseball at Whelan's High School in Wayland, Michigan.
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After one year at Western Michigan University, he signed with the Detroit Tigers in 1956 60 3 seasons later, he's still wearing a big league uniforms.
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As this past season, he served as the pitching coach for the New York Mets for part of the 2019 season.
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Is a pleasure to welcome the New York Mets fantasy camp favorite and the man Dodger legend informer teammate Sandy Koufax, nicknamed the Vulture due to his knack for earning winds and late inning relief situations.
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The one and only Phil Regan, The Sports Talk New York Hey, Coach, how you doing? Very good.
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Well, you did your homework there.
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You have to go back a long way for someone you know.
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So let's go.
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Ah, back a little bit.
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So before we talk about last season, let's talk a little bit about your career.
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We mentioned in the Open about your signing with the Tigers in 1956.
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It's pretty cool because you grow up in a town called Wayland listeningto Harry home and call the Tigers games on radio when the Tigers have players like George Keogh, whoever's Vic Wertz and Hal Newhouser, and after graduating high school, you're invited to Tiger Stadium toe workout I can only imagine what that's like.
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Take us through that, you know, going to the stadium where you will listen to all these games growing up and what that was like and how it led to you signing with the Tigers.
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Well, it really was an unbelievable thrill because, well, in Michigan is a pound about 900 people.
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And I lived outside of that on a little farm.
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And, you know, we didn't We didn't have Ah, we didn't have a telephone in our house, so we had to walk down to borrow the neighbor's phone, and that was a dial phone, which is a party line.
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Everyone to close in.
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We didn't have television.
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So you listen to a lot of radio.
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You read a lot of books.
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You did a lot of things outside, you know, with your bows sisters.
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So you know, that was that was quite different.
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But But Harry Heilmann was really special, and the Tigers were special because, you know, it's it's amazing today that if you ask me, probably who the Tiger Pictures are, I probably couldn't tell you.
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But I can tell you almost every player from back there when when I was a nice girl, which was like you said George kill at their Johnny Lip on it Short Jerry Prettiest Second, George Speaker with first read Wilson of the catcher Who here is Johnny Growth and and, uh, the courts in the outfield.
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Hal Newhouser, Virgil Trucks and Steve Rubell.
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Meghan all.
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So you remember them because there was not the free agency and they stayed with the team, you know, all those years, but then to be be called up and my high school coach took us down to Detroit and the first day it rained so and the second day, it was raining, so they took us out into the centre field bullpen and go on.
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Oh, God by name, A schoolboy.
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Rowe, watch me throw And I threw their form.
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And I remember saying that hearing him say, Yeah, he's got enough So they, you know, at that time, that was a little bit different.
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They didn't have the draft.
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They had what they call where they had a bonus rule.
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Where if you got more than $4000 you have to stay with a major league team for two years on Al Qaeda and, for instance, was one why he never played the minor leagues.
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Jim Small was the year that I am Jim Brady, a guy from Notre Dame where the two guys that signed the year that I was there, but I got $4000 to sign and sent to, uh, Jamestown, New York, and they said you could take this bonus anywhere you want to.
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You take that however you want, so I so I don't know.
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What do you think? So what Most guys make about $250 a month.
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And so he said to take the 2700 you get $250 a month.
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I didn't know later on that was gonna come back to haunt me because I want 17 games that first year 17 and 9 220 innings.
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And they sent me a $25 raise, $145 for the year.
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Uh, you know, it was interesting that that it's interesting you mention the picture that that said, you have enough and in talking toe, you know, you guy Conti, guys that have such a wealth of information and the game you talk about how certain pictures learn a certain grip and it changes their career.
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That point happened for you in the spring of 58 it I think it was from the guy you just mentioned when you were in Birmingham.
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Ah ah, in Ocala, Florida when he came over to you and he taught you a pitch that would change your career.
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He tell us a little bit about that.
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Well, it's kind of an amazing story, because to me it's amazing, because when I was a senior in high school, I went down to Ah Middle as a junior, CarrAmerica.
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I went down to Kalamazoo, Michigan, and Tigers for having a unopened try out there, and, uh, the guy that was that was running.
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That was schoolboy role, and I threw for him.
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And and the thing that he told me and I remember was he said, a young man, he said, You're gonna have to get a raise your arm up and get upon profitable little bit more because if you ever play those left and hitters, they're gonna eat you alive.
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That's what he told me.
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Well, you know, I was in high school and, you know, I was fairly successful in high school.
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My figure I was 11 11 and Waters 11 or whatever.
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And so I didn't change.
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I didn't change.
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My first year in Jamestown are in Durham in the second year.
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But then I got to Birmingham in the spring of 1958 and schoolboy role was was one of the pitching instructors there, and he took me aside and and the first thing he called me after it not seeing me for four or five years, young man, you're gonna have to raise your arm in the left hand hitter duty.
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All right, thing he told me Wow.
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And he changed my delivery a little bit and got me up on top of all kind of become a her teacher.
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And he taught me a slider and, uh, you know, within within two years I was I was in the major leagues after after that, which was the pitch I really need.
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Never had a really good curveball and sew him teaching me the slider.
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Got me, got me to the big leagues.
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And you talked about two years later.
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You're in the big leagues and your first game is July 19th 1960.
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You come and really for Don Mossi.
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In the you go five innings you give up only one run.
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It's the great Harmon Killebrew.
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What do you remember most about that stroll to the the mound that day for the first time? Well, I tell you what.
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I remember there was like 37,000 people there.
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There's 900 people in whale in Michigan.
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That was that was different.
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Uh, the other thing I remember is that Ozzie Virgil, who had played with me in Detroit I was pitching to a guy named Jose Val Devi.
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Also, I struck him out with a curveball.
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Any came up and he said to me, Would you could take her ball.
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I don't know.
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I haven't thrown that curveball sense in my life.
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But I was so scared and afraid I don't really remember too much about it.
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Uh, other than I had pictures that night, but I've never had before in my life It was a great speak truly beat, you know? Where were you when you walk down And when you're a kid and you go Dr The Detroit to see Ted Williams and people like us and AL K Line.
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You said Right, you're watching.
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He's 18 19 years old, he said.
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Why would agree player and then and then to be there and be on the same team with them? It's, you know, with an alkaline.
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It was pretty, pretty special.
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So you get traded to the Dodgers and Sandy Koufax gives you a nickname that to this day still sticks with you.
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Tell our audience how you became known as the vulture.
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Well, it's kind of an interesting story because, you know, huge Colfax.
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I went to the Dodgers from Detroit.
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I've been a really a starter all my life.
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I thought I was gonna be a starting pitcher, but I give you a little background on the story.
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Is that that year, 1966 the Dodgers had won the pennant in 65 World Series.
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And so that spring, Colfax and Drysdale filled out all spring trying to get $100,000 apiece from Walter O'Malley, which you wouldn't give in tow.
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They didn't even come to spring training, so I I thought I was gonna be the four starter on the Dodger because they had Drysdale and Colfax and Cardosi three.
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Pretty good picture, but they were looking for that fourth picture.
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Uh, so I had a great spring and pitch pitch really well, but there was another young pitcher there in Real Beach named Don Sutton who pushed also very well, but he's only 20 years old, So we went Thio.
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We went to Arizona, broke camp, left Arizona and tries their own Kovacs joining the team.
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And and then we went on to L.
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A.
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And, uh uh, they called me and said, You know, you had a great spring, but we want to give Sutton to starts.
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We don't want him to relieve.
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And if he even getting to start so he doesn't do well, we're going to send it back to Spokane and you'll become a starter.
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Well, we started the season.
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I come in and released the first the first night.
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I believe Colfax that he had not died of the game because you didn't have a spring training and I went.
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I went down on 45 innings.
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I guess it wasn't.
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And Austin said, Well, we know he could pitch some relief.
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We're gonna try and short.
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Really? So then I came in later in insured really fall Then.
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Then this went on and sudden fished well, and I stayed stayed in the bullpen.
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That's how I became a really good picture.
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But then, uh, along about the middle of the year.
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Maybe Colfax is pitching a game against the Phillies against Jim Bunning, and this unusually went 12 innings.
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I think he struck out 16 guys and it was a 1 to 1 game and they took him out and I came in and and we scored a run and I got the win.
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Well, four days later, we went to Pittsburgh and he started again and he went, I think, eight innings.
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And they took him out the venture.
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He struck out 10 gas and I come inefficient and got got the wind.
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Fitz wasn't all bad, as though I had pitched two innings that to wind it up, it's like I don't know, 20 years struck out 26 guys, didn't have a win, and after the game, interest for each of his wait for me in the car, she said.
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Regan, you're a real vulture getting my wind like that at some reporter heard it and that was that was kind of the way started, a kind of struck, certainly kind of amazing at it.
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You don't think a lot of it at the time, but zoo in L.
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A.
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Was gonna put a vulture in the bullpen changing destiny with I started getting these rubber vultures from all over that I must have got 1000 all around where they got it.
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But they started coming in the meadow, and that's kind of the way.
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Starr.
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No, it's also interesting.
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You spend 13 years in the majors.
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You win close to 100 games when you retire.
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I can't fathom that ever in your wildest dreams that you could believe that you would spend three times that amount in a uniform is a coach whether it be your first coaching job at Grand Valley State University.
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Mariners minor league pitching instructor.
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Advance Scout Major league pitching coach stops with Cleveland.
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Chicago manages drop with the Orioles, varying pitching positions with the Mets, including interim pitching coach this season.
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So much was made about your age when you took over the job, including even us here on the show.
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Did you hear a lot of it and did it surprise you? I heard a lot about and in fact, I asked him that.
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I said, uh has grabbed number 82.
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They said Why? I said, Well, every article I read it says Phil Regan, 82 joints and met.
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So I thought maybe that was gonna be Oh, just letting you know.
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You know, I I understand that.
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You know, I understand people.
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I understand even where the Mets are going, you know, with, you know, they're not many coaches that 82 years old it is that that are being coaches in the in the major leagues, and and I I just appreciate the fact that you know that people understood after I got there that, you know, I could always in a wheelchair good to move a little bit and and, uh, and that the Mets gave me the opportunity to come there.
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You know, I told him it took me 20 years to get back the major leagues like she hadn't been there since 1999 when I retired Cleveland and then in 2019 to get to get back there.
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But I'm not a lot of things.
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Change is pretty much the same.
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And, uh, you know, I was just kind of thankful for the opportunity, but And really, I have to tell you this, though, is that the people have been so great with on the on the unf ace of Facebook and all these things and all the articles that they just been so positive.
00:24:03
Even even about the age of a lot of old people have said, you know, you're giving us a little bit of hope.
00:24:07
So, you know, it's been great.
00:24:09
You know what? I'm glad you said that, because it's not only that and listen, I know you embrace the ****ytics and I'm gonna ask this a different way because I'm you know, I'm gonna be 60 and the game to me still boils down to you know, what's in a guy's heart and his competitive nature on the mound.
00:24:26
And a lot of the ****ytics goes past me.
00:24:29
So I want to ask this differently.
00:24:32
You know, during your career I looked at this.
00:24:34
You kept some pretty good hitters down.
00:24:37
Roger Maris hit 077 against you.
00:24:40
Orlando Cepeda 1 79 Philippe Pl Lu 1 90 ****ey Mantle 1 88 This is all before ****ytics.
00:24:48
How did you pitch against ****ey Mantle without having reams and reams and reams of data to be able to get ****ey Mantle to about 1 88 in 30 plus at bats against you? Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you that.
00:25:01
And I think this is this is still holds true today, Uh, and and we could be better at it than than what we are because we get the ****ytics when we get this going over the scouting reports and and that's all right now for us.
00:25:14
We showed up on the video, and the guys look at and they say, Yeah, they understand it.
00:25:18
But in my era, when you came up when you had you had to study, you didn't have the starter.
00:25:25
You don't have the advance Scout.
00:25:27
So he didn't have all of the television, didn't have all the computers.
00:25:30
So you had to know how you got people out.
00:25:33
You had to know how you got a left handed hitter all you had.
00:25:35
No, You got a right handed up.
00:25:37
I came to Detroit, we plan the Yankees, and I was starting in New York and Jimmy ****s.
00:25:42
The old manager handed me a and I met in the club about the enemy line up says, How are you gonna pitch him? How you are in place? And that was the scouting report.
00:25:52
You had to know every hitter.
00:25:55
I point this out to, to when I went back to Seattle as a pitching coach and I had a guy named Mike Moore who had never had a winning year and way, had a meeting.
00:26:06
And at that later on, we You know, at that point in time instead, a whole team meeting, you met with the shortstop, that catcher in the center fielder.
00:26:14
The guy's kind of up the middle.
00:26:16
And so we I had the lineup and I handed Mike Morn.
00:26:19
I said, Mike, here's the lineup.
00:26:21
How do you How do you want, How you gonna pitch? Or however you want us to play him? And he looked at at the line up and there was a big paws and he set for men and he looked at me and said, What's the starting reports say Phil? And so I I went over.
00:26:35
The hitters were thing After the meeting, I told him Mike, you need to learn the hitters.
00:26:40
If you wanna win, you gotta learn the hitters.
00:26:43
And that year, he at the end of the year, he could tell me every hitter on how he pitched him, what they were gonna be, always going to get him out.
00:26:50
Anyone? 17 games that year.
00:26:52
So it's all about studying the game? Uh, no, Wilcox told me.
00:26:58
I said, No, you want to go over the hitters? He said, No.
00:27:01
I pitched them all like I know how you get a right hand hitter out.
00:27:04
I know how I get a left hand hitter out, and that's pretty much the way I did, too.
00:27:08
I knew I could get left handed hitters out by sinking the ball away.
00:27:12
Jordan sliders in on her hands.
00:27:14
I did it the opposite to a right hand hitter.
00:27:16
I threw fastballs in on his hands and shooting spiders like I knew how I could get those guys out.
00:27:21
But I also knew what their strengths were and what their weaknesses with them from just watching him from studying them.
00:27:27
And that's, I think, ****ytics air. Great.
00:27:30
I think all the things that they're doing now are are way above what we are.
00:27:36
I think the players are stronger.
00:27:37
I think there they're better prepared than what we ever were on.
00:27:42
I wish I could have been part of that in that era, but you work.
00:27:47
But here's the thing that I don't see.
00:27:50
It is as I watch in the bullpen and I see the guys with the machines and they say, uh, they told pitch and they'll say Not good.
00:28:00
So I say to him, Okay, maybe.
00:28:02
Okay, let's go.
00:28:03
Let's go to Dia's the reliever say, cuts under the ball.
00:28:06
How do I How do you wanna? Okay, It's not a good sliders.
00:28:10
It's a hanging slider he's gotten under.
00:28:12
How do we change it? They can tell me what it does, but they can't really tell me how to change it.
00:28:19
They and and that's and there's where you need the experience of the pitching coach that knows how to do the mechanics and get them a mechanics, right so that the ball does do what you wanted to do.
00:28:31
And there that's what the machines can't tell you.
00:28:33
And you're right about another thing.
00:28:35
I think there are five boxes that you checked on a player and he hit me.
00:28:39
Run.
00:28:40
Can he throw? Can you feel is you got power? That's a five tool player.
00:28:44
But there's another box that I tell me out a check and that's makeup.
00:28:48
His stomach is.
00:28:49
Heart is desire I can take.
00:28:53
You know, I can play on every team that I've had in the minor leagues.
00:28:56
I can tell you the guys that are gonna make the major leagues, and it's not because this guy throws our.
00:29:01
I've had guys through 100 miles an hour, so they're not gonna make it, you know, because of his makeup.
00:29:06
So those are a lot of things that I look at and you're right.
00:29:11
It's got to be another box because makeup is so important to a player.
00:29:16
One more question and ****ytics.
00:29:17
I'll never forget this.
00:29:18
Pete Rose was on our show, and we're talking about what makes a great manager.
00:29:22
It just all that talk about Magic's coming direct down from the boots onto the field, not having mine early experience and and Pete said a manager only needs to know three things he needs to know when to pat a guy on the s went to kick a guy in the s or when to leave him alone.
00:29:37
So when it comes to being a pitching coach, do you also have to get engaged as toe win? A guy needs ****ytics.
00:29:43
When a guy you know, if you give a man a lakes, it's overload for him and a guy just to leave alone or the amount of ****ects.
00:29:49
Because, you know, let's face it, when you're talking about Edwin Diaz, you were You're the pitch that made you is a slider.
00:29:56
This guy's a slider picture.
00:29:58
A year ago, before this season, he was lights out.
00:30:00
This season, something happened.
00:30:01
He wasn't the same picture.
00:30:03
You know when you start giving him ****ytics, maybe start straying away from his slider because a certain batter, you know, can hit a slider.
00:30:10
But if that's his out pitch, shouldn't he be using it? I know there's a lot of questions that yeah, yeah, that's true.
00:30:17
I agree with down that ****ytics can confuse.
00:30:21
You have to know the player.
00:30:22
You have to know the makeup of the first.
00:30:25
There's one right.
00:30:26
I came.
00:30:27
I won't tell you which one it is, but you can't give him a lot of of, uh, try to change his delivery and a lot of lot of things, because he you know, he doesn't want it. He doesn't.
00:30:37
He doesn't use it.
00:30:38
Uh, so you just let him pitch and let it go? Uh, Edwin D is, uh, you know, we had a little bit of confusion, I think, and that he didn't understand the the track man that was behind the plate because he threw a slider.
00:30:53
Maybe this year in the bullpen, and they say, Oh, that's great.
00:30:57
And then he had no one.
00:30:58
That was really pretty good that he thought was good.
00:31:00
They say that's not good.
00:31:02
And he said, You know what? I'm confused, he said, because the one that they say is good is the one they get out.
00:31:11
What they were talking about was the depth of the slider, not so much where the location was.
00:31:16
And he was thinking location and they were talking depth.
00:31:19
It wasn't breaking down and it might be right over the middle plate, he said.
00:31:23
Phil, that's a policy is good.
00:31:25
That's a ball to get out on the ballpark on me.
00:31:27
So you know, you got to make sure that you know your player.
00:31:31
Uh what? That he understands the ****ytics that he understands what what you're talking about.
00:31:36
Really? Lastly, with Zack Wheeler gone, some schools of thoughts are that the Mets could stay in house, promote Seth league luego or Robert Castleman instant rotation and go and get 1/5 starter Or the two luego Castleman, you know, they stay in the pen.
00:31:50
Which of the two of those guys are better suited to being a started, Do you think? Well, if if I was to say it today, I would probably say luego because he started before he started for me when he was down in ST Lucie.
00:32:06
Uh, he's a student of the game.
00:32:08
He was He was one of the guys that when we would, you know, I don't spend the same lucid but in the at the ST Louis at the major league complex there, there is what they call a six pack.
00:32:19
Uh, we're the pictures.
00:32:20
They're all they're throwing were mutual, which will begin in you nauseous in the next couple of weeks with the fantasy camp guys don't get it every time that we would I would have someone throw set.
00:32:32
Luca would set on those steps that lead up to the stand, and he would watch every bullpen.
00:32:37
And he knew every picture he knew and he listened and he studied the game.
00:32:42
So it was not a surprise to me that you know that he made the major leagues.
00:32:47
I think he's improved so much with his curveball with spin.
00:32:51
Uh, in fact, he might even be better suited.
00:32:55
Uh, he's a great reliever.
00:32:56
He's done great.
00:32:58
Uh, but with some of it, with his arm a little bit, he might be better a starter where you could give him fires for five days off in between stars, too.
00:33:08
I think he would be the one that if I was to think those two I like this gentleman.
00:33:13
Really? Because of his delivery.
00:33:14
I like him in the bullpen.
00:33:16
Hey, sinks the bodies, had a great slider, gets a lot of ground balls.
00:33:20
He's competitive.
00:33:22
Uh, I kind of like him in the bullpen.
00:33:25
Well, we surely gonna miss seeing you out at Citi Field.
00:33:28
I know you.
00:33:29
Like I said, you're definitely gonna have your hands full trying to straighten out some of those that fantasy camp pictures in that six pen, So I have a great time.
00:33:36
I know the guys love spending time with you down there.
00:33:38
I'm gonna miss you this year.
00:33:40
Um, I'm really gonna miss you at the stadium, but ah, I know that you're gonna have a hand in a lot of the younger pitches, you know, down in the minors, working with them.
00:33:47
So really appreciate you coming on tonight, Phil? I might tell you, just give you a little Ah, little extra here.
00:33:53
I got some more down down here in a lot of Ramana the Dominican Republic in the winter league.
00:33:58
And I have more of the left hander.
00:34:00
That was our bullpen, Maza, who is there? And I had bachelor.
00:34:04
We just let went home.
00:34:05
He had a little little bit of a, uh, rip cage problem, and he and he left home him.
00:34:10
Peterson is also coming down here and pitching.
00:34:12
So we have a lot of down here.
00:34:15
We're doing well.
00:34:16
We got a four game lead, Thio finish in first place with seven to play, so we got a pretty good chance of winning.
00:34:22
But I like I like the more stuff a lot.
00:34:23
I'm really glad you guys re signed Brock Brock.
00:34:26
I thought was a really good on.
00:34:27
Yeah, I liked him.
00:34:28
Yeah, I like him, too.
00:34:30
He's, uh he's gonna he's gonna really help. All right.
00:34:33
Thanks so much. We'll have a great night.
00:34:35
Okay.
00:34:36
Thank you.
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SPORTS TALK NEW YORK Mark Rosen A. J.
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Carter has made it in from the l I E and Ryan chairman with you this Sunday evening, and we knew that a J how to get here in time for the NHL report.
00:36:04
Well, I stayed caught in traffic, so we bring in our NHL beat reporter Russ Cone, and a Jay's consecutive streak of not missing an NHL report increases again this week.
00:36:15
So that's good. All right.
00:36:17
Now, last week, Russ, or two weeks ago, we said that we doubted that Heinz would be here by the time we came to air next time, and that prediction came true.
00:36:26
Um, you know, But afterwards you hear a lot of rumblings of the players disappointed that they got their coach fired, which is kind of strange.
00:36:35
Um, what's that about, But I think he's a likable guy in the sense that they they liked the way he treated them.
00:36:47
I don't know how practices were, but I'll go so far as to say Maybe practices got really easy and players don't like it.
00:36:55
When you bring in a new coach now, they gotta practice harder.
00:36:58
They got to do things a little differently.
00:37:00
They probably just got used to the way he did.
00:37:02
Think that That's what players hate to see.
00:37:05
Go now.
00:37:07
You also look it.
00:37:08
And again, I'm just shocked by this.
00:37:10
I I in my wildest dreams could not have envisioned this devil season.
00:37:16
The start that they got off to happening tell a whole is 1,000,000 p.
00:37:20
K.
00:37:21
Sullivan, who I love love.
00:37:23
Love is a player, just not the same.
00:37:25
So obviously the clock is ticking on Tala Hole.
00:37:28
Where does he go and does this now justify the Canadians, you know, And listen, the Canadians definitely got the better of that deal, you know, looking at it now.
00:37:39
But you know all the rumblings we heard about P K in the locker room Does this kind of you know, um not justify it but, you know, validated.
00:37:49
I'm not sure.
00:37:50
I think Piquet suban just for whatever reason, this year isn't the fastest you used to be is aggressive shooting.
00:37:58
It used to be They took him off the power play, so I don't know, But I think you do with that.
00:38:05
Maybe he took it too easy over the summer.
00:38:07
Maybe there's something to do with Daddy.
00:38:08
He did shoot an awful lot of videos, and so I might question, you know, that part of it Taylor Hall is definitely male.
00:38:15
And then, I mean, there's no question about it.
00:38:17
I saw him the other night not making plays, to not have contact.
00:38:23
Do not get injured.
00:38:24
I you know, he's got five goals on the year.
00:38:27
That's not all his fault that there are some shifts at a skating well and the score, but he's not playing all out there.
00:38:34
There's no question about it.
00:38:35
I think you'll be gone in a week.
00:38:37
I think Colorado is a good chance.
00:38:39
Maybe they could devil to try and get the key to the door of big, tough defense who skates.
00:38:44
Great.
00:38:45
Get somebody like that.
00:38:46
Get somebody like Alex knew.
00:38:48
Broker Sample Rob get a conditional first, they could do something like that.
00:38:53
They're probably the best trade partner.
00:38:55
And it would give Hall probably his best chance of winning a cup.
00:38:59
But the end of the day, I saw it early in the season.
00:39:03
That telephone was just not gonna be there.
00:39:05
I just I had a feeling based on what we've done over the summer and because of that start, that was pretty much the nail in the coffin Now taking a look at the New York Rangers.
00:39:16
And this is something that right now they're willing to nothing in Vegas, Georgie Evans and goal again tonight.
00:39:22
Which means his number for, you know, being able to be sent down and go to the minors without, you know, waivers is dwindling down to, I believe after tonight, maybe two on, you know, that's gonna put them in a very difficult situation.
00:39:36
Ah, we mentioned this.
00:39:38
You know how much longer you know Mr King is playing great down in the H l uh, He's done everything he needs to do.
00:39:45
Thio come up.
00:39:46
How long do you keep him down there? Well, if I didn't know any better, I'd say that? Probably showcasing your give.
00:39:54
And maybe they have something close.
00:39:57
If not, then yeah, When they send them down, we won't see him again.
00:40:03
And then that means they'll have to trade him over the summer.
00:40:05
Which I would rather trade the guy when these hot so jerkin could come up any time.
00:40:11
I think we all know that it should.
00:40:13
You have to gain something good out of this.
00:40:16
The Rangers have some definite need, Still, and so I I would hope that Jeff Gordon would maximize what they get on him.
00:40:23
Toronto landing spot for him.
00:40:25
I mean, Toronto could be They have a lot of prospects.
00:40:29
They don't have a lot of money.
00:40:30
Uh, if your gift is like over 800,000 you already have to start juggling.
00:40:35
That's how close it is for Toronto.
00:40:37
But yeah, I would say it's a possibility, all right.
00:40:40
And we were gonna talk about maybe Chris cried his game falling off with the contract and pending on his head.
00:40:44
But he's got a goal tonight, so we'll file it away till next week.
00:40:48
All right, Russ, Thanks so much.
00:40:49
A J So happy he made in Italy and I don't want a J.
00:40:52
Maybe he should take the Northern States.
00:40:54
I act.
00:40:55
Actually, I did all right.
00:40:57
Resco unheard here each and every week with the NHL report.
00:41:01
And wow, I know.
00:41:03
I'm gonna keep my calm.
00:41:04
Probably not.
00:41:05
We're gonna change from the ice, and we're gonna go to the hardwood. We're gonna bring in crime.
00:41:09
Talbot actually is a story.
00:41:10
It is a story.
00:41:11
But you know what? Listen, the point is listen, this was not the guy for the job, okay? I get it.
00:41:19
But in reality, if you go back and look at the Knicks drafting history, I think we might have just lost time.
00:41:26
All right, we'll try to get him back, and I'll save my rants because otherwise I'll pick up your ranch and we want to keep You know what? You know what? While you're getting money phone. Do me a favor.
00:41:35
Pull up the Knicks drafts of the last 10 years.
00:41:39
But here's the point.
00:41:40
The point is not the draft for the last 10 years.
00:41:43
The point is what They have a mark ass two years and what Fizdale did not do with them.
00:41:48
Kevin Knox was spending time on the bench is the problem.
00:41:50
He's not treat a lot of a career in surprise.
00:41:54
He benches them because he isn't like Okay, nothing will.
00:41:57
So it's It's not crap.
00:41:59
I think we're developing, All right, so here we go, all right? I feel listened.
00:42:05
He was not a good coach.
00:42:06
I get it.
00:42:07
But the whole Knick team, it's systemic.
00:42:10
It starts from the top.
00:42:11
There's no direction.
00:42:13
Their draft.
00:42:14
I mean, listen, we talked about the Islanders for years that you're constantly bad.
00:42:18
You get high draft picks and you remain bad.
00:42:20
There's something wrong with your management.
00:42:22
No matter who you bring, is a coach.
00:42:23
This is the same thing with the Knicks.
00:42:25
You take a look at the guys they've drafted.
00:42:27
So, Ryan, give me 10 years of draft.
00:42:29
Wait.
00:42:30
Let's say hi to hime.
00:42:31
I did get right.
00:42:33
Mills Jordan, Dora Jordan Hill and Iraq Teens.
00:42:37
Landry Fields, Iman, Shumpert, Costas.
00:42:40
Pepe will skip it.
00:42:41
Yeah, the Greek name.
00:42:43
Tim Hardaway, Jr.
00:42:44
Clear Anthony Early.
00:42:45
Tie a Santa to Colombo.
00:42:47
Kristaps Porzingis, Frank Miller, Kina Damion Dotson.
00:42:50
Who's a player? Um, Kevin knocks Mitchell Robinson orgy Barrett Kyle guy.
00:42:55
All right, so other than Barrett.
00:42:57
You know, where's the talent for forgetting Top 10 picks every year time? How can anyone make this team a winner without without a game changer? Yeah, no, they're not going to.
00:43:10
But it's also while you're going through that list is extensive. One.
00:43:14
How many different GM has made those picks it turn from the continuity in the front All.
00:43:18
There's just one thing I don't know any crime, and that's Steve Mills.
00:43:21
And that's the problem, right? Well, I agree entirely, and I think if there's anything that screams franchise now, practice more than trading two first round picture on grab.
00:43:31
Our Joanie, who wants a jury, was desperate to dump on anybody.
00:43:34
He would have given the graphic.
00:43:36
Get rid of him.
00:43:37
He got to first around back.
00:43:38
I will never understand how that happened, but, yeah, I know Steve Mills is very much an issue.
00:43:44
In my estimation.
00:43:46
I think Perry was somebody and somebody who really knows what he's doing.
00:43:49
I think he's the 1st 1 since Donnie Walsh has been here, who really had a plan.
00:43:54
But he's handcuffed and almost almost in a literal sense, to Steve Mills and Steve Mills, much like I was before him.
00:44:03
Has one fence, has the talent, and that's getting James.
00:44:06
Don't want to give him second chances, and that has turned into I mean, let's cut that down a little bit.
00:44:13
Um, the last theory of lottery picks.
00:44:15
Um, Frank Miller.
00:44:17
Tina was drafted to fit the triangle.
00:44:20
Kevin Knox was an upside player who still might turn into a nice piece.
00:44:24
But right now he looks more like a three and geek I than the space, the floor.
00:44:27
No run all over the place.
00:44:30
Kevin Durant Life, I think, was what they were saying when you were arrested, and R.
00:44:34
J.
00:44:35
Barrett, who still might be a nice piece.
00:44:36
But tell me how the guy who supposedly the centerpiece of your franchise is getting three assists and seeing the ball is being rumored.
00:44:42
The Knicks are running the ball through Marcus Morris.
00:44:45
They're throwing the ball to guys who are on one year deals at Julius Randle.
00:44:49
Um, got it wrong when your deals and Julius Randle and R.
00:44:53
J.
00:44:54
Barrett pick of his box hearing there instead of being the focal point of a franchise that's meant to have found their centerpiece.
00:44:59
So Let's let's look a little little little forward looking setting.
00:45:02
What's wrong with having let's take a look? What can happen with this interim coach for the rest of the season? Assume he's the interim coach with recipes.
00:45:10
Will you go out with a look for Pitino, who might be out there right now? But what what should Nick fans look to see? You have a positive reaction to what's going on.
00:45:20
The part of the firing had a positive effect, and not just one that you know paper over things and have a fall guy and and whatever give the fans about a year.
00:45:29
Well, in terms of what Nick Financial for jurors of calling this a successful season, not a successful sense.
00:45:35
It but they say they say they're moving in a positive direction Now that they change.
00:45:39
What should they again? Trending in the right direction is what I consider a successful season when you're, you know, the roster that they have that anybody that they consider this a playoff team because of the veterans around it is laughable.
00:45:52
But for this to be a successful rest of the season, are least training in the right direction they need a feature of the youth, the youth.
00:46:00
Me, Frank Valentin has been a bright spot in terms of he looks much better than he ever has before.
00:46:04
But Mr Robinson needs to stay out of foul trouble and continued his development.
00:46:08
Arjun Barrett needs to be the centerpiece.
00:46:11
Um, there needs to be a coach who could somehow get a little bit of accountability of Julius Randle making defend somebody.
00:46:18
Somehow I know that's not who he is, but hold them.
00:46:21
And Potash, he's the one piece is still gonna be back next year.
00:46:25
They need to be able to get some kind, some semblance of a culture, which isn't just roll.
00:46:29
Let's go out there and, you know, for the three days our coaches on the hockey, let's try to put up a fight.
00:46:34
There needs to be some expectation of winning or competitiveness, and so far no coach is able to do that with any consistency.
00:46:44
All right, You know, we were not gonna in this nick saga for many years.
00:46:49
I'm afraid it's unfortunate, you know, you saw it coming to really, really bad back to back stinkers that No, no, no, don't go.
00:46:57
Absolutely killers that gets put those back to back that collectively lost by about 80 points.
00:47:03
Unbelievable.
00:47:04
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All right, so you know what a lot is being made about the Jets finally getting like one of those feel good wins.
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Last second field goal.
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45 yards.
00:47:52
You gotta feel good win against the Dolphins, that's what That's what I'm not getting.
00:47:57
People are now looking forward to Thursday's game, where the Jets will absolutely get annihilated.
00:48:03
Okay, you know, then on top of it, you look and see.
00:48:06
All right? You beat a bad team.
00:48:08
But you lost last week, toe worst team.
00:48:10
Have you won, you would have had a new extractable using their five game winning streak and a shot at a 500 season, you know? You know, outside shot it.
00:48:20
So, Jake, walk us through that game.
00:48:22
You know, you're taking a look at a defense that yet? They then they didn't break.
00:48:28
But they play against Ryan Fitzpatrick, for God's sakes.
00:48:33
Well, let me start off by saying a fantastic job by you, Mark.
00:48:37
Uh, secondly, it's not easy to win in the NFL.
00:48:40
Guys, I know you get some of these weeks where you see the Jeff loses the Bangles, but, hey, I mean, who would Who sort of Denver Absolutely smoking Houston today.
00:48:49
Nobody saw that coming.
00:48:50
Not easy with all of the records and talks until a lot of people I know down in the Sunshine State, a lot of people around the league, you're very, very impressed by how the Miami Dolphins play in the last six weeks.
00:49:01
Brian Flores has that came ready? Tow? Yeah, they're devoid of talent there.
00:49:05
It's gonna be tough sledding for them arrest this season, but they play their tails off.
00:49:09
That's why I think if you're just saying, you should be happy about the victory today and especially coming off last week's ah, lost.
00:49:17
I'm not confront you upset about one thing.
00:49:19
I do like to that snap today, but I think they scored on their first possession six games in a row.
00:49:24
To me, that shows the team that's that's focused and it's coming out of the gate, kind of ready to go.
00:49:29
So I think that's a positive e take going forward in time.
00:49:32
Come away with a victory.
00:49:34
With arguably the best player on offense, Bell and Adams are not playing.
00:49:38
I don't care who you're playing that something to hang your hat on and obviously guys, no, it's not about this year, for the gents is about moving forward, and I think this is a positive step.
00:49:47
So wait, wait, I want to talk about the game and you mentioned the Dolphins coach, you know, granted, they go up.
00:49:54
New York calls down and you get that pass interference, call the wall.
00:49:57
That review is going on.
00:49:59
I am shocked that he did not get flagged for unsportsmanlike, which would have given the Jets of first down anyway.
00:50:05
Ken as a head coach while they're reviewing you can't go off on official like that.
00:50:10
And I thought the line I believe it was a line judge showed tremendous restraint by not flagging at that point.
00:50:16
Did you see what was going on the sidelines at that point yet? Yeah, and I was with you, man, when I saw that I was pulling double duty watching that game and I'm working on my get back, Get back, get And he did it.
00:50:29
And you know what, Mark? It's a combination of a couple things.
00:50:32
One People know what? Brian for Miami.
00:50:37
So they're gonna give him a little bit of open.
00:50:39
We come from that village coaching tree, so we got a lot of respect around the league.
00:50:43
A lot of people know Brian Floors.
00:50:44
That's a lot of look this this higher and said, This is the right guy in the right spot.
00:50:50
So I think his reputation around the league helps him and I helped you get away with a little bit more than maybe somebody else says they don't know is, Well, you know, we'll probably get flagged down.
00:50:58
But I'm a little surprised that he didn't get flagged.
00:51:01
And after the game, he wasn't happy.
00:51:03
Ran right after that.
00:51:04
Officials to let him have it.
00:51:06
Two games on the board, the San Francisco game and the Kansas City Game two of the best games.
00:51:12
The San Francisco New Orleans game was just phenomenal.
00:51:15
You know who's the best team in the NFC? It's so difficult to pick out.
00:51:21
Yeah, and it's one of those things, guys, when I think you look a San Francisco, they won this game against the Rolands of every time he looked up.
00:51:28
Another three touchdowns were put on the board to me and might be a war of attrition for them.
00:51:32
I mean, that do.
00:51:33
They lost four starters.
00:51:34
I think it was debut.
00:51:35
The injuries on the deformed Richard Sherman were, too.
00:51:38
George Kittles.
00:51:39
When he's playing on a busted up leg, you got 100%.
00:51:43
This might be a kind of all glory in the regular season for San Francisco.
00:51:47
I think they're gonna struggle come playoff time.
00:51:50
I still think Seattle's a team.
00:51:51
You really have to keep an eye on them.
00:51:53
And Seattle seems like they're finding their groove at the right time and at times wrestles the best player on the field.
00:51:59
I like Seattle, Uh, gonna be a very interesting match up the ramps.
00:52:02
So, like the Chiefs going to Foxboro and the Patriots essentially put up a stinker, what do we make of the fact that the Patriots lost at home to the trees, which now puts him in a position where they might not have home field? They might have to play a wild card game.
00:52:20
It sets up a lot of different things with Noah for New England.
00:52:23
Guys, I'm so surprised that they didn't try to make.
00:52:26
So I don't know who you're gonna sign unless you sign two of the guys that work.
00:52:31
And I was going to happen.
00:52:32
But they need help.
00:52:34
I know.
00:52:35
Nick kill Harry has a really nice place today, But you know how it is from other sports.
00:52:38
Do you think about like, hotch defense? And when you're number one is out and everybody has wide up one spot man changes absolutely everything.
00:52:47
And that's what happens when you don't have a grown, don't have a passport.
00:52:50
Evelyn is probably one of the best number that we've ever seen in the NFL as the number one I don't know.
00:52:56
I don't know the number one researcher, and when he is, it flies everybody else up.
00:53:01
If Brady Stone a tight end like Madame Lacoste and throwing the guys like Philip your set, does that really strike the Fear God and yet does it for me? No matter how well this defense has played this year, I think Stefan Gilmore, outside shot of defensive player of the year Since this, we just don't know that they have the horses, especially the kind of game we see now in the NFL.
00:53:20
You have to put up points, and in the end, you know they're gonna be able to score with teams like him.
00:53:25
Any of Baltimore, I think for the first time in a very long time, we really don't know, and I think that this year they might fall a little short, not because their defense has seen the last year's Oh, it's getting more and I do.
00:53:37
You see the lack of talent around Brady is something that could speed up his retirement clock.
00:53:42
I know he says he wants to play to 45 but it could put some more pressure on the Patriots to surround him with the talent because he probably doesn't want to be, you know, dragged through the mud for all.
00:53:50
He doesn't have the right receivers.
00:53:52
Well, the thing about it is to is some of these young guys may be just another year in this system.
00:53:57
Say that about your Harry.
00:53:59
They're fresh round pick this year.
00:54:00
Next year might be a totally different animal.
00:54:02
This is the guy that made Troy Brown.
00:54:05
You know what? A Super Bowl, M V P type player and Dion French Remember those guys? They weren't exactly household names before Tom Brady got his hands on it.
00:54:12
So, you know, I think him being later on in this career, I think that's gonna expedite their process of Hey, we need a couple more playmakers on the outside.
00:54:21
That's what I was closing the door on. Antonio Brown.
00:54:24
It's a little it's officially shut, but now I don't know if it'll speed up his retirement.
00:54:29
I think it will just give the organization a little bit of urgency like, Hey, how many years we really have blessed with this guy? Let's get him some more weapons.
00:54:36
So what if we've got Eli Manning starting again last last around in a minute, It is coming thickly.
00:54:48
This'll last Iraq.
00:54:51
If he happens to have a good game, what does that do for the Giants? That they suddenly decide that Daniel Jones injury needs another week to hell? Oh, she's my my biggest concern with this deal.
00:55:04
Eyes at five 100 for his career.
00:55:05
If you listen to the game on Mondays, have a losing record.
00:55:09
That's all from the Giants than I am.
00:55:12
I know you want to talk about tanking, but you have to start thinking about that number two slot of the draft and then the worst thing for you.
00:55:21
Um, I'm thinking new new everything.
00:55:23
That's your new coach.
00:55:24
Probably knew.
00:55:25
Jim, Get Chase young and go from there.
00:55:28
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Join us Now is a man who played his college baseball for UNC Charlotte, where his name the Conference US A Picture of the year in 2001 set several single season 40 Niners records, including strikeouts and winds.
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He was drafted by the Baltimore Orioles in the sixth round of the 2002 Major League Baseball June amateur draft.
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He made his major league debut July 23rd 2004.
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He played five seasons here with the New York Mets, appeared in three postseason games, the highlight being his Game six in the NLCS.
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It is a pleasure to welcome former New York Met number 33 John Mayne to Sports Talk New York.
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Welcome, John.
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Thank you.
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Thank you for having me.
01:02:12
I got it.
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Jessica Well staffed up right here.
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I apologize if I kind of found Buffalo.
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But thanks for having me.
01:02:21
No worries.
01:02:22
So, you know, while at UNC, you play for a man who is the longest tenured coach in the Charlotte Athletics Department.
01:02:27
Lauren Hibbs, who has completed 26 seasons as a head coach of the baseball program.
01:02:31
There, he's averaged more than 30 wins per season.
01:02:34
Is career.
01:02:35
Is taking the program toe all five of its N C A A tournament appearances.
01:02:38
Currently the only header assistant coach in the state of North Carolina who's won a national championship in the college world. Siris.
01:02:45
Ah, guy that really doesn't get as much press is he should.
01:02:48
What was the most important thing you learned from Coach Hits? I just going back, Probably just, uh, you know, I think kind of respecting your teammates.
01:02:58
You know, when I was there, you know, man, too many years ago.
01:03:01
He, you know, he kind of stole.
01:03:03
You know, your partners and people go to war with you go to battle with and let's respect their teammates and respecting your opponent than the You know, I think that's something I really kind of admired about.
01:03:13
Him it up.
01:03:14
What he told everybody, You make your way up the Orioles minor league ladder.
01:03:18
Scott McGregor is your pitching coach at two of your minor league stops.
01:03:22
What did having ah, former 20 game winner in the major leagues and All star pitcher as well as one of your first pitching coaches mean to your development in the O system.
01:03:32
You know, he's, uh you know, I'm very fortunate to have a guy like him.
01:03:37
He kind of taught me that.
01:03:39
You know, not only can you know a person be your coach, but kind of also for a friend, you know, type relationship.
01:03:47
And he was he was great, you know, I guess it's because, you know, he taught me about the game of baseball, but he also kind of help me navigate, you know, kind of, you know, other relationships and other aspects of my life and kind of, you know, it kind of a second after our kind of deal.
01:04:03
The now they know it just kind of, you know, he's not only a coach, but he was a frantic, And I can see you kind of you can't have it both ways.
01:04:13
You look up here.
01:04:14
So I was really lucky.
01:04:15
Has a player like Scotty McGregor.
01:04:18
Picture 2003.
01:04:20
You emerges One of the top prospects in the minor leagues who had all minor league pitchers and strikeouts with 185.
01:04:26
You get to make your major League Baseball debut July 23rd 2000 for Camden Yards against the Twins.
01:04:32
What do you remember about that? They, more importantly, the walk from the bullpen to the dugout and then out to the mound for your first major league staff start? You know, I guess once I remember going home run head off by Jack Jones.
01:04:45
That's what I remember the most.
01:04:47
I you know, I wasn't, um I wasn't all that anxious and nervous.
01:04:52
The first start, I guess I was probably too much shock than anything else.
01:04:55
I get those that starts out a little more, um, kind of nervous and didn't do as well.
01:05:01
I did well to begin with, but I just the first remembers you giving up the home run, Uh, in the first start.
01:05:07
That's that's about it.
01:05:09
So you get your first major league win.
01:05:10
August 13th 2005 again at Camden Yards.
01:05:13
One nothing shutout victory over the Blue Jays.
01:05:15
You started pitched five strong innings.
01:05:17
You get ah, some nine more games for the Orioles at season, and during the off season, January 21st 2006 you traded to the New York Mets.
01:05:26
You know, every player.
01:05:27
You know, when they come up with an organization when they get traded it it's a shock.
01:05:31
What do you remember about being traded? Who told you were traded? And what was your initial reaction to go into the Mets? I can't.
01:05:39
I can't.
01:05:40
I can't remember who called me.
01:05:44
Um, I can't remember who called me.
01:05:46
But I do remember, You know, I was in December and the person to call me, they kind of gave me a heads up.
01:05:51
Hey, you know, we trade you.
01:05:53
We appreciate everything.
01:05:56
You know, I sees everything like that.
01:05:59
I get it, you know, getting traded, especially the Orioles.
01:06:03
You know what you're doing? Well, in the minor leagues, I get that whole process, everything like that.
01:06:08
I was kind of fortunate, though, because I actually did go up a medicine so kind of playing for the Mets and then in New York, I was more excited than I guess.
01:06:16
This is more exciting opportunity that I was disappointed in getting traded from it from a team.
01:06:22
I understand the business so that, like I said, that didn't disappoint me too much.
01:06:26
I wasn't that upset.
01:06:28
I was more excited raise another opportunity and I drove my time Baltimore and, you know, I understood it.
01:06:34
But I was ready to rock n roll in New York because he was trading for Kris Benson and someone say Anna Benson was a key player in that.
01:06:43
But you get the Mets on subject car jump and your first pitching coaches refused.
01:06:48
We talk a lot about the influence of picture coach is on you.
01:06:51
But you also said that Rick had a particularly close.
01:06:53
You're not just on pitching but again and how to live your life to tell us about your relationship with Rick and what he taught you about life in general as well as pitching.
01:07:01
So I think you know what I think of a little picture and I've had a lot of good ones.
01:07:05
This is, you know, not a point on everybody, but it is for a compliment to Rick Peterson, and I really enjoyed it.
01:07:13
Uh, he, uh he was probably of all patient coaches worked for on the federal side of especially baseball.
01:07:22
I've been any other pigeon ghosts that I had that kind of the way.
01:07:26
He explains things and how kind of you know life, my personality towards baseball.
01:07:34
It really kind of made it easier for me to understand.
01:07:38
You know who I was, What would make it easy for pitching it, then just, you know, it's it's a game of baseball is it's not that big a deal, is it? You know, it just kind of almost dumped it down for me, but for somebody that I was over ****ytical a lot of things.
01:07:59
And then Rick Pearson came in here and kind of just go to me and, you know, he kind of said Miss tradable bit.
01:08:05
And I still tell everybody that Rick Peterson, I be I love the guy for a picnic. Oh, she was great.
01:08:12
You're fantastic.
01:08:13
And I loved everything you said to me, and I just soaked it up.
01:08:16
Everything at ST, uh I just you know, all this fun for them, and I loved it.
01:08:20
You know, it's interesting because I think the start that put John Mayne on the map for me was a Friday, July 21st 2006 start Hard to believe.
01:08:30
That was 13 years ago.
01:08:32
It was meringue A night.
01:08:34
And, you know, I love saying this at Shea Stadium.
01:08:37
Um, rain was in the forecast.
01:08:39
So in typical, you know, And I can say this because, you know, I I bleed blue unarmed, But in typical met fashion, it was set up that l do Kay was gonna pitch on meringue a night.
01:08:50
However, there was rain in the forecast.
01:08:52
And the Mets, given the fact that l do kay had some minor tweaks that season.
01:08:56
Felt, you know, wouldn't be wise.
01:08:58
Thio, get El Duque a up.
01:09:00
If it was a rain delay, have him stop having warm up again.
01:09:03
So they inserted you as somewhat of a last minute starter.
01:09:08
So can you tell our audience a little bit about that? Start what you remember about it and how that really kind of moved you to the forefront of the Willie Randolph's mind? Maybe.
01:09:18
Yes, I know it was that.
01:09:21
This is also so I do remember this, you know, get a little banged up, and we had Ah, there's already a day's rest in between.
01:09:33
So, you know, that was in my bed.
01:09:36
And I also start the following night and was because the off day was no six day and hang a little banged up.
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They can get, you know.
01:09:45
Can you dish? You know, of course. Always.
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Yes.
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And I also know my eagerness.
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Probably also what kind of maybe it'll open.
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I didn't know it was, You know, I could have picked right before When I said yes, they asked me to go in.
01:09:59
And I mean, I wasn't doing anything that night anyway, so why not? You know, So I just got you know, that kind always wasn't, you know, I don't Look, it didn't need to go in and pitch, you know? He was well bagged up.
01:10:12
Everyone had a day off.
01:10:13
And why not? That kind of I do remember that.
01:10:16
I say that, but that's kind of how it was.
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Only I wasn't do anything.
01:10:20
So why not going and throw? I could do it every day. I would.
01:10:23
And that started, you know, continued a streak of scoreless innings that would go 22 winnings over your next three starts.
01:10:29
Got two wins and no decision over that span after that second score was adding, Willie moves you as the permanent fit started bumping my pal free.
01:10:37
How much did Will is confidence in you Help you relax a little bit more on the mound.
01:10:43
Well, it was always Yes, it was, You know, and really was great to Yuan has also just br I guess it was just, I guess, you know, pigeonhole.
01:10:52
But it also was pitching Well, was why easier with that.
01:10:56
We had behind and then, you know, in in my body, healthy right there.
01:11:01
He came up with a great deal, but, um, yeah, I mean, I guess is kind of football corn to be a culprit was beneficiary of you know, Abby.
01:11:09
She's head to somebody, you know, called that, but yes, Rose.
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A exotic.
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That does make it here too.
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You're not worrying about experimental biters.
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Next, are there in that kind of might have.
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You know, they I'm sure they did help me.
01:11:22
So, overall, that first season with the Mets, you go six and five with the 3.
01:11:26
6 earned run average in the 15 starts.
01:11:29
Delta Mets win the National League East and division in the L.
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N. L. D s injury.
01:11:34
Sidelined.
01:11:35
Both Pedro Martinez and l do kay, You're the starter of Game one in the National League Division series for the Mets in that game.
01:11:40
You pitched four and 1/3 innings.
01:11:42
Got, uh um, no decision in that game.
01:11:45
But that game to this day still provides him with one of my very favorite plays in Met history.
01:11:51
Top of this everywhere.
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Yeah, top second. Nothing.
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Nothing.
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Russell, mourn with Jeff Kent that second.
01:11:57
All right.
01:11:58
J d at first, nobody out.
01:12:00
What do you remember from your vantage point is that ball head start showing green and right? I just remember the ball.
01:12:06
It broke and it was, you know, going off the fence, and then I'm behind.
01:12:10
You know, I think that's perfect. Relay.
01:12:12
I'm this behind what you did back there screaming, like, you know, he tags about it.
01:12:16
I'm just bring one on third, like, probably one.
01:12:20
Or we turn around, turn around that thing that he did.
01:12:23
But, you know, that's what I remember.
01:12:25
Just, like over over.
01:12:27
And then you think you just made it in time to tack up a second? Yeah.
01:12:33
You know, I can watch that play every night on YouTube and never get tired of it.
01:12:37
One of the most amazing moments at shape ashore.
01:12:40
The Mets will go on to win that game.
01:12:41
Give them a one nothing lead in the division series against Dodgers.
01:12:44
Then, in a must win Game six of the National League Championship Series against ST Louis.
01:12:49
You pitch five and 1/3 shutout innings defeated defending National League Cy Young Award winner Chris Carpenter to force a Game seven.
01:12:56
Looking back at your career, where would you rank that win among your career highlights? Uh, it's out there.
01:13:05
It's out there.
01:13:06
I You know, I guess, I guess. Yes.
01:13:10
Question.
01:13:11
I mean, I was just I just want to make the postseason vast going.
01:13:14
It doesn't get out.
01:13:15
Six season.
01:13:17
You know that the playoffs right there.
01:13:18
So, you know, I just you know, you know, it was okay, but I'm just, like, think I had the opportunity because stuck down a team anyway, you know? I guess you know it.
01:13:29
You stop there.
01:13:30
Stop there for me, Gladis.
01:13:33
Opportunity to do it.
01:13:34
And the close to no hitter rights right up there as well, I assume. Yes.
01:13:38
And that was it.
01:13:39
This is this Feels like a lifetime ago talking about it.
01:13:44
I see Johan could be, um, the personal hitter.
01:13:47
I guess you know where you know hater.
01:13:51
You know, I guess that is in the past.
01:13:54
But we put it, They're cool.
01:13:57
You say that, You know, I was the 1st 1 to do that.
01:14:00
I'm happy for yo Hot.
01:14:01
But, you know, other than that, I just kind of go out that kept us, you know, into the final are running, I guess.
01:14:08
You know, everyone knows how it turned out the last game.
01:14:10
But just to extend a woman game was it was good enough for Maine.
01:14:14
Well, speaking of that last game, the last out was one of your teammates on those Met teams is now the new manager of the New York Mets and Carlos Beltran.
01:14:22
Granted, he was in his late twenties, early thirties, when you were team mates with him.
01:14:26
But, you know, being around him, could you ever envision him being a major league manager? Yes.
01:14:31
One of those.
01:14:32
You know, everyone says, you know, characters are kind of in a big that managers, and I get that because they kind of control the game.
01:14:39
But you know, Carlos, he has the he He had the stately, quiet demeanor and, you know, they just he knew the thing.
01:14:50
We need the pictures he knew on everything going on out there has that aura about him.
01:14:57
You know, he had that glow going out of town that, you know, it was just He just wasn't that before because I wasn't playing center field. There was.
01:15:07
I felt just what he was doing and I go and the opportunity I'm really happy for.
01:15:12
You know, I think you're great.
01:15:13
He's, you know, he's quiet, but I think it's kind of a good thing.
01:15:18
I think you know, he still, you know, he does a game that isn't something I do very well backed up and rest all that.
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I was very, very asked for.
01:15:29
If you look at the back end of your career, it was really marred by injuries.
01:15:33
How hard was it to deal with the injuries and to deal with the fact you wanted to keep on playing and how hard was If you finally say no, it's timeto hang it up.
01:15:41
Well, that was That was the hardest part.
01:15:43
You know, like you know, go back said earlier was I would always you know, if saying, if someone we here give me the ball.
01:15:51
I was always gonna take it.
01:15:53
I don't care if I had a solo.
01:15:55
That kind of probably did me in And that this is you know, it was one of my fault.
01:15:59
I don't regret any of that because I still would.
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I got a taste of what life would still go out there and give it my best right now.
01:16:07
You know, I had to shore surgeries.
01:16:09
I tried to come back, but it just wasn't the same.
01:16:13
There's nothing better if you know, it's just it's just how everything, you know shook out. I've learned a lot.
01:16:19
I know I'm in a good place about it.
01:16:22
You know it. You know I'm not.
01:16:24
I'm not upset.
01:16:25
It's hard to be like, You know, it was hard to say, Hey, this isn't myself pitching.
01:16:30
I can't do this anymore.
01:16:32
But other hand was like, you know, I gave him my home and I wouldn't change anything, and it's only no, I'm fine with that on my piece of that.
01:16:40
So if someone asked you the day you left the Mets to take a look at the locker room in that pitching staff, if someone told you nine years from today, Ali Perez would still be on a major league roster.
01:16:52
Would you have taken that bet? I mean, I am e.
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I love I arrest you way.
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We're pretty good food.
01:17:01
And we were pretty good friends, don't I? I tell you what.
01:17:05
He basically means he only has only great.
01:17:12
Um, I guess would be the only one.
01:17:15
I mean, no, I mean, maybe not.
01:17:17
But, you know, it doesn't say you have to serving.
01:17:21
You're not going well.
01:17:22
He's also has great stuff.
01:17:23
But, you know, it's funny, not funny in a bad way.
01:17:28
Things are, you know for sure.
01:17:30
I mean, that I'm looking at some of those staffs, and I just I can't even I mean, listen, the lefty specialist is, ah, a certain role in baseball, and he's been able to really fulfill that for a number of yes, and he's been able to jump into a ah relieving role.
01:17:45
I tried that with the other 13 pollen.
01:17:48
I could not do that.
01:17:50
And, you know, some some people cancel can't.
01:17:53
It's awesome, but I actually saw him on TV and rueful.
01:17:57
I just remember all the funny times that the funny things that he said that sometimes the locker room take a Zantac.
01:18:04
But it is.
01:18:06
It is funny that you look back and, you know, you think in 2008 you know who's still picking.
01:18:11
You are even playing guys.
01:18:13
They're doing it in.
01:18:15
You know, I think it's great, but But you have stayed in the game.
01:18:21
In 2014 the Charlotte 49 his baseball team announced that you joined the staff of your alma mater is a volunteer assistant.
01:18:27
Currently, you're involved with Showcase Baseball Academy of Lake Norman, which is a youth development program in college Baseball Softball Preparatory Academy, where values like passion, integrity and team work of the foundation of the SP a youth development and you become part of S P A.
01:18:42
And what is your role there? Well, so, um, I guess I'm in a nutshell.
01:18:47
You know, I started with Charlotte.
01:18:48
I just you know, you know, Coach Chip asked me to come on, and I basically did that kind of kill time.
01:18:54
I would do nothing else except like all I needed to do something else.
01:18:57
That the other help I want to tell me.
01:19:00
E started it um I felt I felt that I like Toki and people.
01:19:06
I felt that I was some, like, decent people, like, you know, maybe doing it.
01:19:12
But I feel for the most part pictures they got better.
01:19:15
I enjoyed doing it.
01:19:17
You did that for a year that I have started.
01:19:20
I opened a base authority.
01:19:23
Just no official it will live on.
01:19:25
And, uh, I owned that.
01:19:27
Now we have teams.
01:19:29
We do things like that.
01:19:32
I've always found a passion like I really enjoy teaching, you know, kids not only baseball, but it just kind of the best of my abilities.
01:19:43
A you know, kind of have to navigate certain, you know, aspects of their life and kind of being invent.
01:19:48
Or I try surrounding them with other instructors in there that still that same way about helping that's just not baseball.
01:19:55
Because baseball isn't the ultimate goal is not the most important thing, but at least 1/2 fun.
01:20:00
And they're trying to help them be better people.
01:20:02
And I've really enjoyed doing it.
01:20:04
We're doing four years.
01:20:05
We partner with the original SDA that isn't South Charlotte.
01:20:09
Andi.
01:20:10
It's a great partnership, but for what I've got going up.
01:20:12
There is really been fun.
01:20:14
And I bought, traded for think wrote it.
01:20:17
You know, I you know, Monday through Friday, then I'm coaching on the weekends.
01:20:21
I really do love it.
01:20:22
So you've only been out of the game for six years, but there's so much new information in the game with the ****ytics.
01:20:27
So now that your coach and you're helping youth pictures, what what part of that information do you think holds weight and what can be ignored? Like, what do you want to pass on to these pictures? So, you know, I do get asked a lot by, you know, the younger generation coming up, and now I get parents that are coming in there with their kids free the West 30.
01:20:47
I think there's a place for some of it.
01:20:49
And then there's time working, Kind of.
01:20:54
I don't like teacher towards the ****ytics bomb pitching.
01:21:00
I don't Everyone cares about the hour, that kind of stuff.
01:21:04
I don't care what you do.
01:21:05
You pick the ball up there and get guys outside and 400.
01:21:07
Happy with that? I will work with you to make that you know that possibly be by underhand A moment they pick about doesn't There's there's something to be said for, you know, being the best picture somebody convey or trying to, I guess teach towards a radar gun kind of stored.
01:21:25
You know, these ****ytics There is a place for because, you know, my going to get these kids in the college.
01:21:32
Dude, that's my ability.
01:21:34
And how do you do? Look at that.
01:21:35
However, there is a tradeoff to getting out of work, you know, these ****ytics type of thing and some really great at it from his art.
01:21:45
And it is a balancing act, but it's I mean, I do like it.
01:21:49
I do like something, but it's hard with, you know, it's hard all around.
01:21:54
Like I said, I'm sure I'm there to help these kids be the best puzzle pitch they could be.
01:21:58
Generally, they do turn out kind of throwing harder, being better pictures, that kind of things.
01:22:04
But I strictly don't just look at Ah, you know, these numbers, these high speed cameras there we have it here.
01:22:10
I don't like teaching towards that.
01:22:12
Um, you know, I mean, I just signed.
01:22:14
Uh, there's a place for something.
01:22:18
You know.
01:22:19
Then there's other times like, Hey, let's play baseball with good guys out there.
01:22:21
You know, you have a good time doing that where confuse people find more about S p a.
01:22:26
And where can they follow you these days? And social media? So we have no sda like norman dot com is our website.
01:22:33
Uh, I guess on, uh, probably Facebook is N c s p a on.
01:22:39
And then we know we post things And, uh, like I said, anybody this area we know we love you. Come up.
01:22:44
It doesn't matter.
01:22:45
We'd love to help you out of the way we can get you.
01:22:47
The Connelly already is.
01:22:49
You know, if you want to come hang out about baseball and talk shop while you go out there and do that, I love it.
01:22:54
Oh, if we sent a J down there to get him in college, I think the officials might come and arrest him.
01:22:59
But that's a different story.
01:23:01
While John thanks way find a way to try to find a place for the numbers, it might have to be an assisted living place. John.
01:23:10
John, thanks so much for your time time.
01:23:12
More importantly, thanks for five quality seasons here with the Mets.
01:23:15
Really enjoyed watching you pitch for the Mets, you know, anytime.
01:23:18
Thank you.
01:23:19
I appreciate you having me on pleasure.
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Maybe we just go top four. No.
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New format for radio baby.
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All right, so a J what is that thing hasn't hit the Sunday papers yet.
01:24:57
What are you doing on Wednesday? What am I doing on Wednesday? Wednesday? Yeah, Actually, this one's AM interviewing Theo three for the that.
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I was gonna ask if you wanted to stop it.
01:25:05
You just say that's real nice.
01:25:07
So I said, Okay, I'm free.
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What's going on with you? Want to take a trip out the same old Minnesota Wait.
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A conservative synagogue in ST Paul, Minnesota where? Wednesday night Monica Havoc.
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It's there.
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A risk Night of wrestling Second wrestling event.
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This synagogue and ST Paul, Minnesota is have its build with the Temple of Aaron is the name of the shul Play host.
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V star Matt Side L and Mr Independent rival star David Starr.
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So you go out there.
01:25:43
The temple's having resting under way.
01:25:44
The having our land, the sanctuary.
01:25:46
But if you look, the doors opened at six o'clock.
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Which, of course, is when they have Minion. Wait.
01:25:51
Are you sure the doors open or the doors to the Ark open? They open a little later.
01:25:56
The doors open at six o'clock time in some way.
01:25:59
What time is sundown in Minnesota? Maybe it is earlier.
01:26:01
Maybe it is that about that, you know? So it's you go to the temple and look, they're turning the festival of lights into the festival lights out.
01:26:09
So I'm trying to find out if you know, one of these relations is supposed to go two rounds and he's really gonna go eight.
01:26:14
That's for your food before you really just do that.
01:26:18
Did you? That's good.
01:26:21
So if you're anywhere near the Temple of Aaron, you would think if they're doing this, at least one of the wrestlers would have been named Judah Mac.
01:26:29
A beer, right or something like that is the second time they've done it.
01:26:33
So look, this is a temple that in March is sponsoring the big night of Jewish thought, a conversation about 21st century Jewish and Jewish ethics.
01:26:42
But in December comes December. Hanukkah.
01:26:45
Having Scott mechanic a havoc.
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I was helping a resident.
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If you're gonna smoke having incorrectly right, why not spell it in with the CH? You know, if you're going to go that foreign Spode and correctly at least make the ch where's where's our guy, Cletus? I know this is different from Hammer.
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You have, by the way, you're gonna have to pack a heavy coat because he forecast for Wednesday night is four degrees.
01:27:13
That's it.
01:27:14
That's warm in ST Paul, Minnesota, this time of year.
01:27:16
So we need to know when you've got Your Tallis way.
01:27:22
Need to call you like you like music.
01:27:25
Most things right, we have music.
01:27:27
Rick is defined a song to end.
01:27:30
He confined Tom Larrys, Hanukkah and Santa Monica.
01:27:33
You put the guy on the pressure's gonna be updated in 10 seconds to find this song.
01:27:37
But if I think we need to have a follow up Sunday papers next week, we need to find someone that went to see what happened.
01:27:44
And that might be one of our guests next week, believe it or not.
01:27:47
But I want to find one of these wrestlers because I don't get it.
01:27:50
Is there a wrestling? I mean, back in the day when I went to Florida, there was like a different wrestling organization way stretchable Is any saying Louis? Clearly not for Theo Stern Winters.
01:28:12
Now, now we know the age difference, because if I was going to do anything, it would've been a crazy nights with Adam Sandler.
01:28:20
What year was this song from Wreck? It doesn't have a year on it without any cancer by the hens it on later.
01:28:26
That is tough, yet I don't I don't see the year here on this video forties.
01:28:34
Now is I don't have anyone to say goodbye to be as everyone tuned off after that.
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That that that is a really exciting little tags for everyone The tuning in.
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We'll see everyone next weekend.
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We will try to have one of the wrestlers on next week.
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That's my goal.
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Have a great when everybody see you next week.
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Let's start with the New York Yankees as it's getting towards Christmas time, you know? Are the Yankees going to end up with a lump of coal or Jared Cole by the end of the Christmas season? John.
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It certainly looks like they very well might end up with Gary Cole.
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I they put together a record offer reportedly for coal, and it looks like that.
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They're saying, OK, we're gonna use our financial might hear.
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But certainly a record breaking deal is hard to turn down, and it's hard to top as well.
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So the odds certainly look good for the Yankees getting cold right now.
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It really all depends on whether Call wants the pitch in New York tonight.
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We were just talking before we went on the air for some reason.
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You know, this smells a lot like Randy Johnson for May.
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I mean, I don't know if he's the right fit here.
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I don't know also know Johnson's credit.
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He came here.
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I mean, there've been others.
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Also the Maddox back in the day that used the Yankees to drive up the price.
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I don't know.
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This is a guy who didn't sign with him when he got drafted by them.
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This was a guy who didn't come here.
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When they want their trade for him, I don't know.
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I mean, to offer a guy a record deal who two times has kind of turned you down? I don't know.
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I mean movement.
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The Yankees are in such need of a name.
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I think that they're they're wise.
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So let bygones be bygones in that respect.
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And if you're gonna, If Cole's gonna turn them down, then so be it.
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But the Yankees need an ace.
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I think if they didn't offer him a record deal because of the last two times that call was spurned them, then I think the fan base would really be on him.
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So I still say kudos to the Yankees for doing it on, But you're right.
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He has spurned the Yankees before.
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For Southern California.
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He supported him for U C L. A.
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For the first time, and then he spurred them to go to Houston, so it certainly might not workout, but the Yankees are in need of an A.
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They have the money.
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I mean, think of how much money they save, not going after pictures in the past 23 years, they have got it, so I can't fault them for at least trying.
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It's been a little bit of a change in philosophy, though, with this off season, and the fact that you know it came out this week that ownership was gonna be willing to go to that record deal today was being reported that it was a record sized deal.
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But in the same way that they didn't offer the same kind of deals to Patrick Corbin, it seems like they're now willing, like you said to go all in because of the need that they need that ace.
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Oh, absolutely.
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And it's not just that they need an ace, but that's certainly part of it.
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But it's who is who it is that's out there. Patrick Corbin.
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I mean, was, was anybody really sure about Patrick Corbin? The way people are sure about Garrett Cole now and nobody listen, nobody's assured thing, But Garrett Cole is is obviously the best pitcher in the league right now.
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When you look at his recent performance and when you look at his playoff performance, Gerrit Cole is that guy.
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And and I think the Yankees are putting are throwing money at a sure thing, which is never a bad thing.
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It's certainly not as if they're throwing 22 a half $1,000,000 a year. Jacoby Ellsbury.
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You know what a difference 12 months make last year at this time, you know, the free agent market.
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Nothing but crickets.
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Guys went, you know, spring training started.
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Guys end up signing on one year deals.
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Kaiko. Good pitching.
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Very interesting.
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Now you see how quickly guys signed, whether it be Cole Hamels, order be Zack Wheeler and a reported record deal out there for Cole.
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Big difference in one year.
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What do you make of that, John? Well, I think part of it is players see what's happening.
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What happened with other players that waited until the last minute to sign and behind the last minute to sign.
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They see what happened to a guy like Stephen Drew, who waited until May Thio Donna, major league uniform, the year he did in any, and then he got a bad 1 61 They saw a guy like Jake Gary ETA who wasn't signed until late, and they decided, Hey, I don't want to be that guy and I I've always said the club should take that into consideration also, but the clubs haven't been.
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So the players have been taking on themselves to say, Look, I don't want to be in some makeshift Scott Boris Camp in February.
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I want to be with the team on the field on a real spring training facility and ah, and take my chances and sign early.
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So So, yeah, I think people are seeing that, and the market is adjusting accordingly.
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It was also interesting you mentioned how the Yankees have the financial wherewithal, and if you are a Met fan, we have a big sigh of relief because it looks like financial wherewithal will be something you're gonna hear a lot about the next couple of years with the New York Mets.
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Ah, Stephen Kohn has now purchased.
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It's not official yet, but now an 80% share in the team, the Wilpons, will retain their positions for five years, but I'm wondering if this deal gets signed up fairly quickly.
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Do the Mets make a move and you've heard the name Mookie Betts out there and linked to the Mets? Do the Mets card a package? Maybe a Dom Smith may be a bad contract and familiar.
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And maybe Nimmo and a couple of prospects for Mookie Betts and Porcello toe a get Mookie in a year early before his free agency year.
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By that time, Cones money is there, and then they can re sign him as a free agent, and he is kind of the perfect fit for this team.
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What do you thoughts about that? I think it's certainly a possibility the way you've laid it out, because listen that Steve Colin isn't gonna be in charge right away and they're still negotiating.
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And as long as the Wilpons they're still making decisions, you have to expect more of the same, at least to a certain point.
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It's certainly something to think about in terms of trading for Mookie Betts plunking down the money and then and then having the money the following season to re sign.
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It also depends on who else is a free agent at the end of 2021.
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I mean, we'll see only English in college is a big ****ytics guy.
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Uh, so So let's see if he I don't think he's gonna come in and spend money willy nilly.
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I think he'll spend money if it makes sense.
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The difference is, if a top guy makes sense, he will spend the money for the top guy.
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So I, Mookie Betts seems to be one of those players that makes it so.
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I certainly think that that's a possibility.
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All right, Johnny is always we love hearing from you talking baseball, especially in the dead of winter.
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John Carpenter heard here each and every week over 5 40 AM Sports Talk New York Quick break and a guy who knows more baseball in his pinkie now than everyone in this room and has such a wealth of knowledge for so many years.
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And welcome back to 5:40 a.m.
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Sports talk New York Congressman Ryan Sherman with you this Sunday, waiting for a jade arrive someplace in traffic.
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Ah, we're sure he's somewhere out there on the L.
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Most likely listen to us.
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So, uh, can't really make too much fun, All right.
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Joining us now is a man who earn varsity letters in basketball, football and baseball at Whelan's High School in Wayland, Michigan.
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After one year at Western Michigan University, he signed with the Detroit Tigers in 1956 60 3 seasons later, he's still wearing a big league uniforms.
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As this past season, he served as the pitching coach for the New York Mets for part of the 2019 season.
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Is a pleasure to welcome the New York Mets fantasy camp favorite and the man Dodger legend informer teammate Sandy Koufax, nicknamed the Vulture due to his knack for earning winds and late inning relief situations.
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The one and only Phil Regan, The Sports Talk New York Hey, Coach, how you doing? Very good.
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Well, you did your homework there.
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You have to go back a long way for someone you know.
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So let's go.
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Ah, back a little bit.
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So before we talk about last season, let's talk a little bit about your career.
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We mentioned in the Open about your signing with the Tigers in 1956.
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It's pretty cool because you grow up in a town called Wayland listeningto Harry home and call the Tigers games on radio when the Tigers have players like George Keogh, whoever's Vic Wertz and Hal Newhouser, and after graduating high school, you're invited to Tiger Stadium toe workout I can only imagine what that's like.
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Take us through that, you know, going to the stadium where you will listen to all these games growing up and what that was like and how it led to you signing with the Tigers.
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Well, it really was an unbelievable thrill because, well, in Michigan is a pound about 900 people.
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And I lived outside of that on a little farm.
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And, you know, we didn't We didn't have Ah, we didn't have a telephone in our house, so we had to walk down to borrow the neighbor's phone, and that was a dial phone, which is a party line.
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Everyone to close in.
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We didn't have television.
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So you listen to a lot of radio.
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You read a lot of books.
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You did a lot of things outside, you know, with your bows sisters.
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So you know, that was that was quite different.
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But But Harry Heilmann was really special, and the Tigers were special because, you know, it's it's amazing today that if you ask me, probably who the Tiger Pictures are, I probably couldn't tell you.
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But I can tell you almost every player from back there when when I was a nice girl, which was like you said George kill at their Johnny Lip on it Short Jerry Prettiest Second, George Speaker with first read Wilson of the catcher Who here is Johnny Growth and and, uh, the courts in the outfield.
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Hal Newhouser, Virgil Trucks and Steve Rubell.
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Meghan all.
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So you remember them because there was not the free agency and they stayed with the team, you know, all those years, but then to be be called up and my high school coach took us down to Detroit and the first day it rained so and the second day, it was raining, so they took us out into the centre field bullpen and go on.
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Oh, God by name, A schoolboy.
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Rowe, watch me throw And I threw their form.
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And I remember saying that hearing him say, Yeah, he's got enough So they, you know, at that time, that was a little bit different.
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They didn't have the draft.
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They had what they call where they had a bonus rule.
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Where if you got more than $4000 you have to stay with a major league team for two years on Al Qaeda and, for instance, was one why he never played the minor leagues.
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Jim Small was the year that I am Jim Brady, a guy from Notre Dame where the two guys that signed the year that I was there, but I got $4000 to sign and sent to, uh, Jamestown, New York, and they said you could take this bonus anywhere you want to.
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You take that however you want, so I so I don't know.
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What do you think? So what Most guys make about $250 a month.
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And so he said to take the 2700 you get $250 a month.
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I didn't know later on that was gonna come back to haunt me because I want 17 games that first year 17 and 9 220 innings.
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And they sent me a $25 raise, $145 for the year.
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Uh, you know, it was interesting that that it's interesting you mention the picture that that said, you have enough and in talking toe, you know, you guy Conti, guys that have such a wealth of information and the game you talk about how certain pictures learn a certain grip and it changes their career.
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That point happened for you in the spring of 58 it I think it was from the guy you just mentioned when you were in Birmingham.
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Ah ah, in Ocala, Florida when he came over to you and he taught you a pitch that would change your career.
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He tell us a little bit about that.
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Well, it's kind of an amazing story, because to me it's amazing, because when I was a senior in high school, I went down to Ah Middle as a junior, CarrAmerica.
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I went down to Kalamazoo, Michigan, and Tigers for having a unopened try out there, and, uh, the guy that was that was running.
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That was schoolboy role, and I threw for him.
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And and the thing that he told me and I remember was he said, a young man, he said, You're gonna have to get a raise your arm up and get upon profitable little bit more because if you ever play those left and hitters, they're gonna eat you alive.
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That's what he told me.
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Well, you know, I was in high school and, you know, I was fairly successful in high school.
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My figure I was 11 11 and Waters 11 or whatever.
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And so I didn't change.
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I didn't change.
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My first year in Jamestown are in Durham in the second year.
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But then I got to Birmingham in the spring of 1958 and schoolboy role was was one of the pitching instructors there, and he took me aside and and the first thing he called me after it not seeing me for four or five years, young man, you're gonna have to raise your arm in the left hand hitter duty.
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All right, thing he told me Wow.
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And he changed my delivery a little bit and got me up on top of all kind of become a her teacher.
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And he taught me a slider and, uh, you know, within within two years I was I was in the major leagues after after that, which was the pitch I really need.
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Never had a really good curveball and sew him teaching me the slider.
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Got me, got me to the big leagues.
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And you talked about two years later.
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You're in the big leagues and your first game is July 19th 1960.
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You come and really for Don Mossi.
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In the you go five innings you give up only one run.
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It's the great Harmon Killebrew.
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What do you remember most about that stroll to the the mound that day for the first time? Well, I tell you what.
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I remember there was like 37,000 people there.
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There's 900 people in whale in Michigan.
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That was that was different.
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Uh, the other thing I remember is that Ozzie Virgil, who had played with me in Detroit I was pitching to a guy named Jose Val Devi.
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Also, I struck him out with a curveball.
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Any came up and he said to me, Would you could take her ball.
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I don't know.
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I haven't thrown that curveball sense in my life.
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But I was so scared and afraid I don't really remember too much about it.
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Uh, other than I had pictures that night, but I've never had before in my life It was a great speak truly beat, you know? Where were you when you walk down And when you're a kid and you go Dr The Detroit to see Ted Williams and people like us and AL K Line.
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You said Right, you're watching.
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He's 18 19 years old, he said.
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Why would agree player and then and then to be there and be on the same team with them? It's, you know, with an alkaline.
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It was pretty, pretty special.
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So you get traded to the Dodgers and Sandy Koufax gives you a nickname that to this day still sticks with you.
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Tell our audience how you became known as the vulture.
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Well, it's kind of an interesting story because, you know, huge Colfax.
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I went to the Dodgers from Detroit.
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I've been a really a starter all my life.
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I thought I was gonna be a starting pitcher, but I give you a little background on the story.
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Is that that year, 1966 the Dodgers had won the pennant in 65 World Series.
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And so that spring, Colfax and Drysdale filled out all spring trying to get $100,000 apiece from Walter O'Malley, which you wouldn't give in tow.
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They didn't even come to spring training, so I I thought I was gonna be the four starter on the Dodger because they had Drysdale and Colfax and Cardosi three.
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Pretty good picture, but they were looking for that fourth picture.
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Uh, so I had a great spring and pitch pitch really well, but there was another young pitcher there in Real Beach named Don Sutton who pushed also very well, but he's only 20 years old, So we went Thio.
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We went to Arizona, broke camp, left Arizona and tries their own Kovacs joining the team.
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And and then we went on to L.
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A.
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And, uh uh, they called me and said, You know, you had a great spring, but we want to give Sutton to starts.
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We don't want him to relieve.
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And if he even getting to start so he doesn't do well, we're going to send it back to Spokane and you'll become a starter.
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Well, we started the season.
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I come in and released the first the first night.
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I believe Colfax that he had not died of the game because you didn't have a spring training and I went.
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I went down on 45 innings.
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I guess it wasn't.
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And Austin said, Well, we know he could pitch some relief.
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We're gonna try and short.
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Really? So then I came in later in insured really fall Then.
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Then this went on and sudden fished well, and I stayed stayed in the bullpen.
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That's how I became a really good picture.
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But then, uh, along about the middle of the year.
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Maybe Colfax is pitching a game against the Phillies against Jim Bunning, and this unusually went 12 innings.
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I think he struck out 16 guys and it was a 1 to 1 game and they took him out and I came in and and we scored a run and I got the win.
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Well, four days later, we went to Pittsburgh and he started again and he went, I think, eight innings.
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And they took him out the venture.
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He struck out 10 gas and I come inefficient and got got the wind.
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Fitz wasn't all bad, as though I had pitched two innings that to wind it up, it's like I don't know, 20 years struck out 26 guys, didn't have a win, and after the game, interest for each of his wait for me in the car, she said.
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Regan, you're a real vulture getting my wind like that at some reporter heard it and that was that was kind of the way started, a kind of struck, certainly kind of amazing at it.
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You don't think a lot of it at the time, but zoo in L.
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A.
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Was gonna put a vulture in the bullpen changing destiny with I started getting these rubber vultures from all over that I must have got 1000 all around where they got it.
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But they started coming in the meadow, and that's kind of the way.
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Starr.
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No, it's also interesting.
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You spend 13 years in the majors.
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You win close to 100 games when you retire.
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I can't fathom that ever in your wildest dreams that you could believe that you would spend three times that amount in a uniform is a coach whether it be your first coaching job at Grand Valley State University.
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Mariners minor league pitching instructor.
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Advance Scout Major league pitching coach stops with Cleveland.
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Chicago manages drop with the Orioles, varying pitching positions with the Mets, including interim pitching coach this season.
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So much was made about your age when you took over the job, including even us here on the show.
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Did you hear a lot of it and did it surprise you? I heard a lot about and in fact, I asked him that.
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I said, uh has grabbed number 82.
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They said Why? I said, Well, every article I read it says Phil Regan, 82 joints and met.
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So I thought maybe that was gonna be Oh, just letting you know.
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You know, I I understand that.
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You know, I understand people.
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I understand even where the Mets are going, you know, with, you know, they're not many coaches that 82 years old it is that that are being coaches in the in the major leagues, and and I I just appreciate the fact that you know that people understood after I got there that, you know, I could always in a wheelchair good to move a little bit and and, uh, and that the Mets gave me the opportunity to come there.
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You know, I told him it took me 20 years to get back the major leagues like she hadn't been there since 1999 when I retired Cleveland and then in 2019 to get to get back there.
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But I'm not a lot of things.
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Change is pretty much the same.
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And, uh, you know, I was just kind of thankful for the opportunity, but And really, I have to tell you this, though, is that the people have been so great with on the on the unf ace of Facebook and all these things and all the articles that they just been so positive.
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Even even about the age of a lot of old people have said, you know, you're giving us a little bit of hope.
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So, you know, it's been great.
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You know what? I'm glad you said that, because it's not only that and listen, I know you embrace the ****ytics and I'm gonna ask this a different way because I'm you know, I'm gonna be 60 and the game to me still boils down to you know, what's in a guy's heart and his competitive nature on the mound.
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And a lot of the ****ytics goes past me.
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So I want to ask this differently.
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You know, during your career I looked at this.
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You kept some pretty good hitters down.
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Roger Maris hit 077 against you.
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Orlando Cepeda 1 79 Philippe Pl Lu 1 90 ****ey Mantle 1 88 This is all before ****ytics.
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How did you pitch against ****ey Mantle without having reams and reams and reams of data to be able to get ****ey Mantle to about 1 88 in 30 plus at bats against you? Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you that.
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And I think this is this is still holds true today, Uh, and and we could be better at it than than what we are because we get the ****ytics when we get this going over the scouting reports and and that's all right now for us.
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We showed up on the video, and the guys look at and they say, Yeah, they understand it.
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But in my era, when you came up when you had you had to study, you didn't have the starter.
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You don't have the advance Scout.
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So he didn't have all of the television, didn't have all the computers.
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So you had to know how you got people out.
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You had to know how you got a left handed hitter all you had.
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No, You got a right handed up.
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I came to Detroit, we plan the Yankees, and I was starting in New York and Jimmy ****s.
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The old manager handed me a and I met in the club about the enemy line up says, How are you gonna pitch him? How you are in place? And that was the scouting report.
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You had to know every hitter.
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I point this out to, to when I went back to Seattle as a pitching coach and I had a guy named Mike Moore who had never had a winning year and way, had a meeting.
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And at that later on, we You know, at that point in time instead, a whole team meeting, you met with the shortstop, that catcher in the center fielder.
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The guy's kind of up the middle.
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And so we I had the lineup and I handed Mike Morn.
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I said, Mike, here's the lineup.
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How do you How do you want, How you gonna pitch? Or however you want us to play him? And he looked at at the line up and there was a big paws and he set for men and he looked at me and said, What's the starting reports say Phil? And so I I went over.
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The hitters were thing After the meeting, I told him Mike, you need to learn the hitters.
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If you wanna win, you gotta learn the hitters.
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And that year, he at the end of the year, he could tell me every hitter on how he pitched him, what they were gonna be, always going to get him out.
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Anyone? 17 games that year.
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So it's all about studying the game? Uh, no, Wilcox told me.
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I said, No, you want to go over the hitters? He said, No.
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I pitched them all like I know how you get a right hand hitter out.
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I know how I get a left hand hitter out, and that's pretty much the way I did, too.
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I knew I could get left handed hitters out by sinking the ball away.
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Jordan sliders in on her hands.
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I did it the opposite to a right hand hitter.
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I threw fastballs in on his hands and shooting spiders like I knew how I could get those guys out.
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But I also knew what their strengths were and what their weaknesses with them from just watching him from studying them.
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And that's, I think, ****ytics air. Great.
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I think all the things that they're doing now are are way above what we are.
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I think the players are stronger.
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I think there they're better prepared than what we ever were on.
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I wish I could have been part of that in that era, but you work.
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But here's the thing that I don't see.
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It is as I watch in the bullpen and I see the guys with the machines and they say, uh, they told pitch and they'll say Not good.
00:28:00
So I say to him, Okay, maybe.
00:28:02
Okay, let's go.
00:28:03
Let's go to Dia's the reliever say, cuts under the ball.
00:28:06
How do I How do you wanna? Okay, It's not a good sliders.
00:28:10
It's a hanging slider he's gotten under.
00:28:12
How do we change it? They can tell me what it does, but they can't really tell me how to change it.
00:28:19
They and and that's and there's where you need the experience of the pitching coach that knows how to do the mechanics and get them a mechanics, right so that the ball does do what you wanted to do.
00:28:31
And there that's what the machines can't tell you.
00:28:33
And you're right about another thing.
00:28:35
I think there are five boxes that you checked on a player and he hit me.
00:28:39
Run.
00:28:40
Can he throw? Can you feel is you got power? That's a five tool player.
00:28:44
But there's another box that I tell me out a check and that's makeup.
00:28:48
His stomach is.
00:28:49
Heart is desire I can take.
00:28:53
You know, I can play on every team that I've had in the minor leagues.
00:28:56
I can tell you the guys that are gonna make the major leagues, and it's not because this guy throws our.
00:29:01
I've had guys through 100 miles an hour, so they're not gonna make it, you know, because of his makeup.
00:29:06
So those are a lot of things that I look at and you're right.
00:29:11
It's got to be another box because makeup is so important to a player.
00:29:16
One more question and ****ytics.
00:29:17
I'll never forget this.
00:29:18
Pete Rose was on our show, and we're talking about what makes a great manager.
00:29:22
It just all that talk about Magic's coming direct down from the boots onto the field, not having mine early experience and and Pete said a manager only needs to know three things he needs to know when to pat a guy on the s went to kick a guy in the s or when to leave him alone.
00:29:37
So when it comes to being a pitching coach, do you also have to get engaged as toe win? A guy needs ****ytics.
00:29:43
When a guy you know, if you give a man a lakes, it's overload for him and a guy just to leave alone or the amount of ****ects.
00:29:49
Because, you know, let's face it, when you're talking about Edwin Diaz, you were You're the pitch that made you is a slider.
00:29:56
This guy's a slider picture.
00:29:58
A year ago, before this season, he was lights out.
00:30:00
This season, something happened.
00:30:01
He wasn't the same picture.
00:30:03
You know when you start giving him ****ytics, maybe start straying away from his slider because a certain batter, you know, can hit a slider.
00:30:10
But if that's his out pitch, shouldn't he be using it? I know there's a lot of questions that yeah, yeah, that's true.
00:30:17
I agree with down that ****ytics can confuse.
00:30:21
You have to know the player.
00:30:22
You have to know the makeup of the first.
00:30:25
There's one right.
00:30:26
I came.
00:30:27
I won't tell you which one it is, but you can't give him a lot of of, uh, try to change his delivery and a lot of lot of things, because he you know, he doesn't want it. He doesn't.
00:30:37
He doesn't use it.
00:30:38
Uh, so you just let him pitch and let it go? Uh, Edwin D is, uh, you know, we had a little bit of confusion, I think, and that he didn't understand the the track man that was behind the plate because he threw a slider.
00:30:53
Maybe this year in the bullpen, and they say, Oh, that's great.
00:30:57
And then he had no one.
00:30:58
That was really pretty good that he thought was good.
00:31:00
They say that's not good.
00:31:02
And he said, You know what? I'm confused, he said, because the one that they say is good is the one they get out.
00:31:11
What they were talking about was the depth of the slider, not so much where the location was.
00:31:16
And he was thinking location and they were talking depth.
00:31:19
It wasn't breaking down and it might be right over the middle plate, he said.
00:31:23
Phil, that's a policy is good.
00:31:25
That's a ball to get out on the ballpark on me.
00:31:27
So you know, you got to make sure that you know your player.
00:31:31
Uh what? That he understands the ****ytics that he understands what what you're talking about.
00:31:36
Really? Lastly, with Zack Wheeler gone, some schools of thoughts are that the Mets could stay in house, promote Seth league luego or Robert Castleman instant rotation and go and get 1/5 starter Or the two luego Castleman, you know, they stay in the pen.
00:31:50
Which of the two of those guys are better suited to being a started, Do you think? Well, if if I was to say it today, I would probably say luego because he started before he started for me when he was down in ST Lucie.
00:32:06
Uh, he's a student of the game.
00:32:08
He was He was one of the guys that when we would, you know, I don't spend the same lucid but in the at the ST Louis at the major league complex there, there is what they call a six pack.
00:32:19
Uh, we're the pictures.
00:32:20
They're all they're throwing were mutual, which will begin in you nauseous in the next couple of weeks with the fantasy camp guys don't get it every time that we would I would have someone throw set.
00:32:32
Luca would set on those steps that lead up to the stand, and he would watch every bullpen.
00:32:37
And he knew every picture he knew and he listened and he studied the game.
00:32:42
So it was not a surprise to me that you know that he made the major leagues.
00:32:47
I think he's improved so much with his curveball with spin.
00:32:51
Uh, in fact, he might even be better suited.
00:32:55
Uh, he's a great reliever.
00:32:56
He's done great.
00:32:58
Uh, but with some of it, with his arm a little bit, he might be better a starter where you could give him fires for five days off in between stars, too.
00:33:08
I think he would be the one that if I was to think those two I like this gentleman.
00:33:13
Really? Because of his delivery.
00:33:14
I like him in the bullpen.
00:33:16
Hey, sinks the bodies, had a great slider, gets a lot of ground balls.
00:33:20
He's competitive.
00:33:22
Uh, I kind of like him in the bullpen.
00:33:25
Well, we surely gonna miss seeing you out at Citi Field.
00:33:28
I know you.
00:33:29
Like I said, you're definitely gonna have your hands full trying to straighten out some of those that fantasy camp pictures in that six pen, So I have a great time.
00:33:36
I know the guys love spending time with you down there.
00:33:38
I'm gonna miss you this year.
00:33:40
Um, I'm really gonna miss you at the stadium, but ah, I know that you're gonna have a hand in a lot of the younger pitches, you know, down in the minors, working with them.
00:33:47
So really appreciate you coming on tonight, Phil? I might tell you, just give you a little Ah, little extra here.
00:33:53
I got some more down down here in a lot of Ramana the Dominican Republic in the winter league.
00:33:58
And I have more of the left hander.
00:34:00
That was our bullpen, Maza, who is there? And I had bachelor.
00:34:04
We just let went home.
00:34:05
He had a little little bit of a, uh, rip cage problem, and he and he left home him.
00:34:10
Peterson is also coming down here and pitching.
00:34:12
So we have a lot of down here.
00:34:15
We're doing well.
00:34:16
We got a four game lead, Thio finish in first place with seven to play, so we got a pretty good chance of winning.
00:34:22
But I like I like the more stuff a lot.
00:34:23
I'm really glad you guys re signed Brock Brock.
00:34:26
I thought was a really good on.
00:34:27
Yeah, I liked him.
00:34:28
Yeah, I like him, too.
00:34:30
He's, uh he's gonna he's gonna really help. All right.
00:34:33
Thanks so much. We'll have a great night.
00:34:35
Okay.
00:34:36
Thank you.
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SPORTS TALK NEW YORK Mark Rosen A. J.
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Carter has made it in from the l I E and Ryan chairman with you this Sunday evening, and we knew that a J how to get here in time for the NHL report.
00:36:04
Well, I stayed caught in traffic, so we bring in our NHL beat reporter Russ Cone, and a Jay's consecutive streak of not missing an NHL report increases again this week.
00:36:15
So that's good. All right.
00:36:17
Now, last week, Russ, or two weeks ago, we said that we doubted that Heinz would be here by the time we came to air next time, and that prediction came true.
00:36:26
Um, you know, But afterwards you hear a lot of rumblings of the players disappointed that they got their coach fired, which is kind of strange.
00:36:35
Um, what's that about, But I think he's a likable guy in the sense that they they liked the way he treated them.
00:36:47
I don't know how practices were, but I'll go so far as to say Maybe practices got really easy and players don't like it.
00:36:55
When you bring in a new coach now, they gotta practice harder.
00:36:58
They got to do things a little differently.
00:37:00
They probably just got used to the way he did.
00:37:02
Think that That's what players hate to see.
00:37:05
Go now.
00:37:07
You also look it.
00:37:08
And again, I'm just shocked by this.
00:37:10
I I in my wildest dreams could not have envisioned this devil season.
00:37:16
The start that they got off to happening tell a whole is 1,000,000 p.
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K.
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Sullivan, who I love love.
00:37:23
Love is a player, just not the same.
00:37:25
So obviously the clock is ticking on Tala Hole.
00:37:28
Where does he go and does this now justify the Canadians, you know, And listen, the Canadians definitely got the better of that deal, you know, looking at it now.
00:37:39
But you know all the rumblings we heard about P K in the locker room Does this kind of you know, um not justify it but, you know, validated.
00:37:49
I'm not sure.
00:37:50
I think Piquet suban just for whatever reason, this year isn't the fastest you used to be is aggressive shooting.
00:37:58
It used to be They took him off the power play, so I don't know, But I think you do with that.
00:38:05
Maybe he took it too easy over the summer.
00:38:07
Maybe there's something to do with Daddy.
00:38:08
He did shoot an awful lot of videos, and so I might question, you know, that part of it Taylor Hall is definitely male.
00:38:15
And then, I mean, there's no question about it.
00:38:17
I saw him the other night not making plays, to not have contact.
00:38:23
Do not get injured.
00:38:24
I you know, he's got five goals on the year.
00:38:27
That's not all his fault that there are some shifts at a skating well and the score, but he's not playing all out there.
00:38:34
There's no question about it.
00:38:35
I think you'll be gone in a week.
00:38:37
I think Colorado is a good chance.
00:38:39
Maybe they could devil to try and get the key to the door of big, tough defense who skates.
00:38:44
Great.
00:38:45
Get somebody like that.
00:38:46
Get somebody like Alex knew.
00:38:48
Broker Sample Rob get a conditional first, they could do something like that.
00:38:53
They're probably the best trade partner.
00:38:55
And it would give Hall probably his best chance of winning a cup.
00:38:59
But the end of the day, I saw it early in the season.
00:39:03
That telephone was just not gonna be there.
00:39:05
I just I had a feeling based on what we've done over the summer and because of that start, that was pretty much the nail in the coffin Now taking a look at the New York Rangers.
00:39:16
And this is something that right now they're willing to nothing in Vegas, Georgie Evans and goal again tonight.
00:39:22
Which means his number for, you know, being able to be sent down and go to the minors without, you know, waivers is dwindling down to, I believe after tonight, maybe two on, you know, that's gonna put them in a very difficult situation.
00:39:36
Ah, we mentioned this.
00:39:38
You know how much longer you know Mr King is playing great down in the H l uh, He's done everything he needs to do.
00:39:45
Thio come up.
00:39:46
How long do you keep him down there? Well, if I didn't know any better, I'd say that? Probably showcasing your give.
00:39:54
And maybe they have something close.
00:39:57
If not, then yeah, When they send them down, we won't see him again.
00:40:03
And then that means they'll have to trade him over the summer.
00:40:05
Which I would rather trade the guy when these hot so jerkin could come up any time.
00:40:11
I think we all know that it should.
00:40:13
You have to gain something good out of this.
00:40:16
The Rangers have some definite need, Still, and so I I would hope that Jeff Gordon would maximize what they get on him.
00:40:23
Toronto landing spot for him.
00:40:25
I mean, Toronto could be They have a lot of prospects.
00:40:29
They don't have a lot of money.
00:40:30
Uh, if your gift is like over 800,000 you already have to start juggling.
00:40:35
That's how close it is for Toronto.
00:40:37
But yeah, I would say it's a possibility, all right.
00:40:40
And we were gonna talk about maybe Chris cried his game falling off with the contract and pending on his head.
00:40:44
But he's got a goal tonight, so we'll file it away till next week.
00:40:48
All right, Russ, Thanks so much.
00:40:49
A J So happy he made in Italy and I don't want a J.
00:40:52
Maybe he should take the Northern States.
00:40:54
I act.
00:40:55
Actually, I did all right.
00:40:57
Resco unheard here each and every week with the NHL report.
00:41:01
And wow, I know.
00:41:03
I'm gonna keep my calm.
00:41:04
Probably not.
00:41:05
We're gonna change from the ice, and we're gonna go to the hardwood. We're gonna bring in crime.
00:41:09
Talbot actually is a story.
00:41:10
It is a story.
00:41:11
But you know what? Listen, the point is listen, this was not the guy for the job, okay? I get it.
00:41:19
But in reality, if you go back and look at the Knicks drafting history, I think we might have just lost time.
00:41:26
All right, we'll try to get him back, and I'll save my rants because otherwise I'll pick up your ranch and we want to keep You know what? You know what? While you're getting money phone. Do me a favor.
00:41:35
Pull up the Knicks drafts of the last 10 years.
00:41:39
But here's the point.
00:41:40
The point is not the draft for the last 10 years.
00:41:43
The point is what They have a mark ass two years and what Fizdale did not do with them.
00:41:48
Kevin Knox was spending time on the bench is the problem.
00:41:50
He's not treat a lot of a career in surprise.
00:41:54
He benches them because he isn't like Okay, nothing will.
00:41:57
So it's It's not crap.
00:41:59
I think we're developing, All right, so here we go, all right? I feel listened.
00:42:05
He was not a good coach.
00:42:06
I get it.
00:42:07
But the whole Knick team, it's systemic.
00:42:10
It starts from the top.
00:42:11
There's no direction.
00:42:13
Their draft.
00:42:14
I mean, listen, we talked about the Islanders for years that you're constantly bad.
00:42:18
You get high draft picks and you remain bad.
00:42:20
There's something wrong with your management.
00:42:22
No matter who you bring, is a coach.
00:42:23
This is the same thing with the Knicks.
00:42:25
You take a look at the guys they've drafted.
00:42:27
So, Ryan, give me 10 years of draft.
00:42:29
Wait.
00:42:30
Let's say hi to hime.
00:42:31
I did get right.
00:42:33
Mills Jordan, Dora Jordan Hill and Iraq Teens.
00:42:37
Landry Fields, Iman, Shumpert, Costas.
00:42:40
Pepe will skip it.
00:42:41
Yeah, the Greek name.
00:42:43
Tim Hardaway, Jr.
00:42:44
Clear Anthony Early.
00:42:45
Tie a Santa to Colombo.
00:42:47
Kristaps Porzingis, Frank Miller, Kina Damion Dotson.
00:42:50
Who's a player? Um, Kevin knocks Mitchell Robinson orgy Barrett Kyle guy.
00:42:55
All right, so other than Barrett.
00:42:57
You know, where's the talent for forgetting Top 10 picks every year time? How can anyone make this team a winner without without a game changer? Yeah, no, they're not going to.
00:43:10
But it's also while you're going through that list is extensive. One.
00:43:14
How many different GM has made those picks it turn from the continuity in the front All.
00:43:18
There's just one thing I don't know any crime, and that's Steve Mills.
00:43:21
And that's the problem, right? Well, I agree entirely, and I think if there's anything that screams franchise now, practice more than trading two first round picture on grab.
00:43:31
Our Joanie, who wants a jury, was desperate to dump on anybody.
00:43:34
He would have given the graphic.
00:43:36
Get rid of him.
00:43:37
He got to first around back.
00:43:38
I will never understand how that happened, but, yeah, I know Steve Mills is very much an issue.
00:43:44
In my estimation.
00:43:46
I think Perry was somebody and somebody who really knows what he's doing.
00:43:49
I think he's the 1st 1 since Donnie Walsh has been here, who really had a plan.
00:43:54
But he's handcuffed and almost almost in a literal sense, to Steve Mills and Steve Mills, much like I was before him.
00:44:03
Has one fence, has the talent, and that's getting James.
00:44:06
Don't want to give him second chances, and that has turned into I mean, let's cut that down a little bit.
00:44:13
Um, the last theory of lottery picks.
00:44:15
Um, Frank Miller.
00:44:17
Tina was drafted to fit the triangle.
00:44:20
Kevin Knox was an upside player who still might turn into a nice piece.
00:44:24
But right now he looks more like a three and geek I than the space, the floor.
00:44:27
No run all over the place.
00:44:30
Kevin Durant Life, I think, was what they were saying when you were arrested, and R.
00:44:34
J.
00:44:35
Barrett, who still might be a nice piece.
00:44:36
But tell me how the guy who supposedly the centerpiece of your franchise is getting three assists and seeing the ball is being rumored.
00:44:42
The Knicks are running the ball through Marcus Morris.
00:44:45
They're throwing the ball to guys who are on one year deals at Julius Randle.
00:44:49
Um, got it wrong when your deals and Julius Randle and R.
00:44:53
J.
00:44:54
Barrett pick of his box hearing there instead of being the focal point of a franchise that's meant to have found their centerpiece.
00:44:59
So Let's let's look a little little little forward looking setting.
00:45:02
What's wrong with having let's take a look? What can happen with this interim coach for the rest of the season? Assume he's the interim coach with recipes.
00:45:10
Will you go out with a look for Pitino, who might be out there right now? But what what should Nick fans look to see? You have a positive reaction to what's going on.
00:45:20
The part of the firing had a positive effect, and not just one that you know paper over things and have a fall guy and and whatever give the fans about a year.
00:45:29
Well, in terms of what Nick Financial for jurors of calling this a successful season, not a successful sense.
00:45:35
It but they say they say they're moving in a positive direction Now that they change.
00:45:39
What should they again? Trending in the right direction is what I consider a successful season when you're, you know, the roster that they have that anybody that they consider this a playoff team because of the veterans around it is laughable.
00:45:52
But for this to be a successful rest of the season, are least training in the right direction they need a feature of the youth, the youth.
00:46:00
Me, Frank Valentin has been a bright spot in terms of he looks much better than he ever has before.
00:46:04
But Mr Robinson needs to stay out of foul trouble and continued his development.
00:46:08
Arjun Barrett needs to be the centerpiece.
00:46:11
Um, there needs to be a coach who could somehow get a little bit of accountability of Julius Randle making defend somebody.
00:46:18
Somehow I know that's not who he is, but hold them.
00:46:21
And Potash, he's the one piece is still gonna be back next year.
00:46:25
They need to be able to get some kind, some semblance of a culture, which isn't just roll.
00:46:29
Let's go out there and, you know, for the three days our coaches on the hockey, let's try to put up a fight.
00:46:34
There needs to be some expectation of winning or competitiveness, and so far no coach is able to do that with any consistency.
00:46:44
All right, You know, we were not gonna in this nick saga for many years.
00:46:49
I'm afraid it's unfortunate, you know, you saw it coming to really, really bad back to back stinkers that No, no, no, don't go.
00:46:57
Absolutely killers that gets put those back to back that collectively lost by about 80 points.
00:47:03
Unbelievable.
00:47:04
All right, so now all right, it's back in my hands, guy.
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All right, so you know what a lot is being made about the Jets finally getting like one of those feel good wins.
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Last second field goal.
00:47:51
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00:47:52
You gotta feel good win against the Dolphins, that's what That's what I'm not getting.
00:47:57
People are now looking forward to Thursday's game, where the Jets will absolutely get annihilated.
00:48:03
Okay, you know, then on top of it, you look and see.
00:48:06
All right? You beat a bad team.
00:48:08
But you lost last week, toe worst team.
00:48:10
Have you won, you would have had a new extractable using their five game winning streak and a shot at a 500 season, you know? You know, outside shot it.
00:48:20
So, Jake, walk us through that game.
00:48:22
You know, you're taking a look at a defense that yet? They then they didn't break.
00:48:28
But they play against Ryan Fitzpatrick, for God's sakes.
00:48:33
Well, let me start off by saying a fantastic job by you, Mark.
00:48:37
Uh, secondly, it's not easy to win in the NFL.
00:48:40
Guys, I know you get some of these weeks where you see the Jeff loses the Bangles, but, hey, I mean, who would Who sort of Denver Absolutely smoking Houston today.
00:48:49
Nobody saw that coming.
00:48:50
Not easy with all of the records and talks until a lot of people I know down in the Sunshine State, a lot of people around the league, you're very, very impressed by how the Miami Dolphins play in the last six weeks.
00:49:01
Brian Flores has that came ready? Tow? Yeah, they're devoid of talent there.
00:49:05
It's gonna be tough sledding for them arrest this season, but they play their tails off.
00:49:09
That's why I think if you're just saying, you should be happy about the victory today and especially coming off last week's ah, lost.
00:49:17
I'm not confront you upset about one thing.
00:49:19
I do like to that snap today, but I think they scored on their first possession six games in a row.
00:49:24
To me, that shows the team that's that's focused and it's coming out of the gate, kind of ready to go.
00:49:29
So I think that's a positive e take going forward in time.
00:49:32
Come away with a victory.
00:49:34
With arguably the best player on offense, Bell and Adams are not playing.
00:49:38
I don't care who you're playing that something to hang your hat on and obviously guys, no, it's not about this year, for the gents is about moving forward, and I think this is a positive step.
00:49:47
So wait, wait, I want to talk about the game and you mentioned the Dolphins coach, you know, granted, they go up.
00:49:54
New York calls down and you get that pass interference, call the wall.
00:49:57
That review is going on.
00:49:59
I am shocked that he did not get flagged for unsportsmanlike, which would have given the Jets of first down anyway.
00:50:05
Ken as a head coach while they're reviewing you can't go off on official like that.
00:50:10
And I thought the line I believe it was a line judge showed tremendous restraint by not flagging at that point.
00:50:16
Did you see what was going on the sidelines at that point yet? Yeah, and I was with you, man, when I saw that I was pulling double duty watching that game and I'm working on my get back, Get back, get And he did it.
00:50:29
And you know what, Mark? It's a combination of a couple things.
00:50:32
One People know what? Brian for Miami.
00:50:37
So they're gonna give him a little bit of open.
00:50:39
We come from that village coaching tree, so we got a lot of respect around the league.
00:50:43
A lot of people know Brian Floors.
00:50:44
That's a lot of look this this higher and said, This is the right guy in the right spot.
00:50:50
So I think his reputation around the league helps him and I helped you get away with a little bit more than maybe somebody else says they don't know is, Well, you know, we'll probably get flagged down.
00:50:58
But I'm a little surprised that he didn't get flagged.
00:51:01
And after the game, he wasn't happy.
00:51:03
Ran right after that.
00:51:04
Officials to let him have it.
00:51:06
Two games on the board, the San Francisco game and the Kansas City Game two of the best games.
00:51:12
The San Francisco New Orleans game was just phenomenal.
00:51:15
You know who's the best team in the NFC? It's so difficult to pick out.
00:51:21
Yeah, and it's one of those things, guys, when I think you look a San Francisco, they won this game against the Rolands of every time he looked up.
00:51:28
Another three touchdowns were put on the board to me and might be a war of attrition for them.
00:51:32
I mean, that do.
00:51:33
They lost four starters.
00:51:34
I think it was debut.
00:51:35
The injuries on the deformed Richard Sherman were, too.
00:51:38
George Kittles.
00:51:39
When he's playing on a busted up leg, you got 100%.
00:51:43
This might be a kind of all glory in the regular season for San Francisco.
00:51:47
I think they're gonna struggle come playoff time.
00:51:50
I still think Seattle's a team.
00:51:51
You really have to keep an eye on them.
00:51:53
And Seattle seems like they're finding their groove at the right time and at times wrestles the best player on the field.
00:51:59
I like Seattle, Uh, gonna be a very interesting match up the ramps.
00:52:02
So, like the Chiefs going to Foxboro and the Patriots essentially put up a stinker, what do we make of the fact that the Patriots lost at home to the trees, which now puts him in a position where they might not have home field? They might have to play a wild card game.
00:52:20
It sets up a lot of different things with Noah for New England.
00:52:23
Guys, I'm so surprised that they didn't try to make.
00:52:26
So I don't know who you're gonna sign unless you sign two of the guys that work.
00:52:31
And I was going to happen.
00:52:32
But they need help.
00:52:34
I know.
00:52:35
Nick kill Harry has a really nice place today, But you know how it is from other sports.
00:52:38
Do you think about like, hotch defense? And when you're number one is out and everybody has wide up one spot man changes absolutely everything.
00:52:47
And that's what happens when you don't have a grown, don't have a passport.
00:52:50
Evelyn is probably one of the best number that we've ever seen in the NFL as the number one I don't know.
00:52:56
I don't know the number one researcher, and when he is, it flies everybody else up.
00:53:01
If Brady Stone a tight end like Madame Lacoste and throwing the guys like Philip your set, does that really strike the Fear God and yet does it for me? No matter how well this defense has played this year, I think Stefan Gilmore, outside shot of defensive player of the year Since this, we just don't know that they have the horses, especially the kind of game we see now in the NFL.
00:53:20
You have to put up points, and in the end, you know they're gonna be able to score with teams like him.
00:53:25
Any of Baltimore, I think for the first time in a very long time, we really don't know, and I think that this year they might fall a little short, not because their defense has seen the last year's Oh, it's getting more and I do.
00:53:37
You see the lack of talent around Brady is something that could speed up his retirement clock.
00:53:42
I know he says he wants to play to 45 but it could put some more pressure on the Patriots to surround him with the talent because he probably doesn't want to be, you know, dragged through the mud for all.
00:53:50
He doesn't have the right receivers.
00:53:52
Well, the thing about it is to is some of these young guys may be just another year in this system.
00:53:57
Say that about your Harry.
00:53:59
They're fresh round pick this year.
00:54:00
Next year might be a totally different animal.
00:54:02
This is the guy that made Troy Brown.
00:54:05
You know what? A Super Bowl, M V P type player and Dion French Remember those guys? They weren't exactly household names before Tom Brady got his hands on it.
00:54:12
So, you know, I think him being later on in this career, I think that's gonna expedite their process of Hey, we need a couple more playmakers on the outside.
00:54:21
That's what I was closing the door on. Antonio Brown.
00:54:24
It's a little it's officially shut, but now I don't know if it'll speed up his retirement.
00:54:29
I think it will just give the organization a little bit of urgency like, Hey, how many years we really have blessed with this guy? Let's get him some more weapons.
00:54:36
So what if we've got Eli Manning starting again last last around in a minute, It is coming thickly.
00:54:48
This'll last Iraq.
00:54:51
If he happens to have a good game, what does that do for the Giants? That they suddenly decide that Daniel Jones injury needs another week to hell? Oh, she's my my biggest concern with this deal.
00:55:04
Eyes at five 100 for his career.
00:55:05
If you listen to the game on Mondays, have a losing record.
00:55:09
That's all from the Giants than I am.
00:55:12
I know you want to talk about tanking, but you have to start thinking about that number two slot of the draft and then the worst thing for you.
00:55:21
Um, I'm thinking new new everything.
00:55:23
That's your new coach.
00:55:24
Probably knew.
00:55:25
Jim, Get Chase young and go from there.
00:55:28
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00:55:29
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00:55:30
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Carter Ryan chairman with you this Sunday evening.
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Join us Now is a man who played his college baseball for UNC Charlotte, where his name the Conference US A Picture of the year in 2001 set several single season 40 Niners records, including strikeouts and winds.
01:01:48
He was drafted by the Baltimore Orioles in the sixth round of the 2002 Major League Baseball June amateur draft.
01:01:53
He made his major league debut July 23rd 2004.
01:01:56
He played five seasons here with the New York Mets, appeared in three postseason games, the highlight being his Game six in the NLCS.
01:02:03
It is a pleasure to welcome former New York Met number 33 John Mayne to Sports Talk New York.
01:02:08
Welcome, John.
01:02:10
Thank you.
01:02:11
Thank you for having me.
01:02:12
I got it.
01:02:13
I apologize for being broken.
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Jessica Well staffed up right here.
01:02:16
I apologize if I kind of found Buffalo.
01:02:19
But thanks for having me.
01:02:21
No worries.
01:02:22
So, you know, while at UNC, you play for a man who is the longest tenured coach in the Charlotte Athletics Department.
01:02:27
Lauren Hibbs, who has completed 26 seasons as a head coach of the baseball program.
01:02:31
There, he's averaged more than 30 wins per season.
01:02:34
Is career.
01:02:35
Is taking the program toe all five of its N C A A tournament appearances.
01:02:38
Currently the only header assistant coach in the state of North Carolina who's won a national championship in the college world. Siris.
01:02:45
Ah, guy that really doesn't get as much press is he should.
01:02:48
What was the most important thing you learned from Coach Hits? I just going back, Probably just, uh, you know, I think kind of respecting your teammates.
01:02:58
You know, when I was there, you know, man, too many years ago.
01:03:01
He, you know, he kind of stole.
01:03:03
You know, your partners and people go to war with you go to battle with and let's respect their teammates and respecting your opponent than the You know, I think that's something I really kind of admired about.
01:03:13
Him it up.
01:03:14
What he told everybody, You make your way up the Orioles minor league ladder.
01:03:18
Scott McGregor is your pitching coach at two of your minor league stops.
01:03:22
What did having ah, former 20 game winner in the major leagues and All star pitcher as well as one of your first pitching coaches mean to your development in the O system.
01:03:32
You know, he's, uh you know, I'm very fortunate to have a guy like him.
01:03:37
He kind of taught me that.
01:03:39
You know, not only can you know a person be your coach, but kind of also for a friend, you know, type relationship.
01:03:47
And he was he was great, you know, I guess it's because, you know, he taught me about the game of baseball, but he also kind of help me navigate, you know, kind of, you know, other relationships and other aspects of my life and kind of, you know, it kind of a second after our kind of deal.
01:04:03
The now they know it just kind of, you know, he's not only a coach, but he was a frantic, And I can see you kind of you can't have it both ways.
01:04:13
You look up here.
01:04:14
So I was really lucky.
01:04:15
Has a player like Scotty McGregor.
01:04:18
Picture 2003.
01:04:20
You emerges One of the top prospects in the minor leagues who had all minor league pitchers and strikeouts with 185.
01:04:26
You get to make your major League Baseball debut July 23rd 2000 for Camden Yards against the Twins.
01:04:32
What do you remember about that? They, more importantly, the walk from the bullpen to the dugout and then out to the mound for your first major league staff start? You know, I guess once I remember going home run head off by Jack Jones.
01:04:45
That's what I remember the most.
01:04:47
I you know, I wasn't, um I wasn't all that anxious and nervous.
01:04:52
The first start, I guess I was probably too much shock than anything else.
01:04:55
I get those that starts out a little more, um, kind of nervous and didn't do as well.
01:05:01
I did well to begin with, but I just the first remembers you giving up the home run, Uh, in the first start.
01:05:07
That's that's about it.
01:05:09
So you get your first major league win.
01:05:10
August 13th 2005 again at Camden Yards.
01:05:13
One nothing shutout victory over the Blue Jays.
01:05:15
You started pitched five strong innings.
01:05:17
You get ah, some nine more games for the Orioles at season, and during the off season, January 21st 2006 you traded to the New York Mets.
01:05:26
You know, every player.
01:05:27
You know, when they come up with an organization when they get traded it it's a shock.
01:05:31
What do you remember about being traded? Who told you were traded? And what was your initial reaction to go into the Mets? I can't.
01:05:39
I can't.
01:05:40
I can't remember who called me.
01:05:44
Um, I can't remember who called me.
01:05:46
But I do remember, You know, I was in December and the person to call me, they kind of gave me a heads up.
01:05:51
Hey, you know, we trade you.
01:05:53
We appreciate everything.
01:05:56
You know, I sees everything like that.
01:05:59
I get it, you know, getting traded, especially the Orioles.
01:06:03
You know what you're doing? Well, in the minor leagues, I get that whole process, everything like that.
01:06:08
I was kind of fortunate, though, because I actually did go up a medicine so kind of playing for the Mets and then in New York, I was more excited than I guess.
01:06:16
This is more exciting opportunity that I was disappointed in getting traded from it from a team.
01:06:22
I understand the business so that, like I said, that didn't disappoint me too much.
01:06:26
I wasn't that upset.
01:06:28
I was more excited raise another opportunity and I drove my time Baltimore and, you know, I understood it.
01:06:34
But I was ready to rock n roll in New York because he was trading for Kris Benson and someone say Anna Benson was a key player in that.
01:06:43
But you get the Mets on subject car jump and your first pitching coaches refused.
01:06:48
We talk a lot about the influence of picture coach is on you.
01:06:51
But you also said that Rick had a particularly close.
01:06:53
You're not just on pitching but again and how to live your life to tell us about your relationship with Rick and what he taught you about life in general as well as pitching.
01:07:01
So I think you know what I think of a little picture and I've had a lot of good ones.
01:07:05
This is, you know, not a point on everybody, but it is for a compliment to Rick Peterson, and I really enjoyed it.
01:07:13
Uh, he, uh he was probably of all patient coaches worked for on the federal side of especially baseball.
01:07:22
I've been any other pigeon ghosts that I had that kind of the way.
01:07:26
He explains things and how kind of you know life, my personality towards baseball.
01:07:34
It really kind of made it easier for me to understand.
01:07:38
You know who I was, What would make it easy for pitching it, then just, you know, it's it's a game of baseball is it's not that big a deal, is it? You know, it just kind of almost dumped it down for me, but for somebody that I was over ****ytical a lot of things.
01:07:59
And then Rick Pearson came in here and kind of just go to me and, you know, he kind of said Miss tradable bit.
01:08:05
And I still tell everybody that Rick Peterson, I be I love the guy for a picnic. Oh, she was great.
01:08:12
You're fantastic.
01:08:13
And I loved everything you said to me, and I just soaked it up.
01:08:16
Everything at ST, uh I just you know, all this fun for them, and I loved it.
01:08:20
You know, it's interesting because I think the start that put John Mayne on the map for me was a Friday, July 21st 2006 start Hard to believe.
01:08:30
That was 13 years ago.
01:08:32
It was meringue A night.
01:08:34
And, you know, I love saying this at Shea Stadium.
01:08:37
Um, rain was in the forecast.
01:08:39
So in typical, you know, And I can say this because, you know, I I bleed blue unarmed, But in typical met fashion, it was set up that l do Kay was gonna pitch on meringue a night.
01:08:50
However, there was rain in the forecast.
01:08:52
And the Mets, given the fact that l do kay had some minor tweaks that season.
01:08:56
Felt, you know, wouldn't be wise.
01:08:58
Thio, get El Duque a up.
01:09:00
If it was a rain delay, have him stop having warm up again.
01:09:03
So they inserted you as somewhat of a last minute starter.
01:09:08
So can you tell our audience a little bit about that? Start what you remember about it and how that really kind of moved you to the forefront of the Willie Randolph's mind? Maybe.
01:09:18
Yes, I know it was that.
01:09:21
This is also so I do remember this, you know, get a little banged up, and we had Ah, there's already a day's rest in between.
01:09:33
So, you know, that was in my bed.
01:09:36
And I also start the following night and was because the off day was no six day and hang a little banged up.
01:09:44
They can get, you know.
01:09:45
Can you dish? You know, of course. Always.
01:09:49
Yes.
01:09:50
And I also know my eagerness.
01:09:52
Probably also what kind of maybe it'll open.
01:09:54
I didn't know it was, You know, I could have picked right before When I said yes, they asked me to go in.
01:09:59
And I mean, I wasn't doing anything that night anyway, so why not? You know, So I just got you know, that kind always wasn't, you know, I don't Look, it didn't need to go in and pitch, you know? He was well bagged up.
01:10:12
Everyone had a day off.
01:10:13
And why not? That kind of I do remember that.
01:10:16
I say that, but that's kind of how it was.
01:10:19
Only I wasn't do anything.
01:10:20
So why not going and throw? I could do it every day. I would.
01:10:23
And that started, you know, continued a streak of scoreless innings that would go 22 winnings over your next three starts.
01:10:29
Got two wins and no decision over that span after that second score was adding, Willie moves you as the permanent fit started bumping my pal free.
01:10:37
How much did Will is confidence in you Help you relax a little bit more on the mound.
01:10:43
Well, it was always Yes, it was, You know, and really was great to Yuan has also just br I guess it was just, I guess, you know, pigeonhole.
01:10:52
But it also was pitching Well, was why easier with that.
01:10:56
We had behind and then, you know, in in my body, healthy right there.
01:11:01
He came up with a great deal, but, um, yeah, I mean, I guess is kind of football corn to be a culprit was beneficiary of you know, Abby.
01:11:09
She's head to somebody, you know, called that, but yes, Rose.
01:11:13
A exotic.
01:11:14
That does make it here too.
01:11:16
You're not worrying about experimental biters.
01:11:18
Next, are there in that kind of might have.
01:11:20
You know, they I'm sure they did help me.
01:11:22
So, overall, that first season with the Mets, you go six and five with the 3.
01:11:26
6 earned run average in the 15 starts.
01:11:29
Delta Mets win the National League East and division in the L.
01:11:32
N. L. D s injury.
01:11:34
Sidelined.
01:11:35
Both Pedro Martinez and l do kay, You're the starter of Game one in the National League Division series for the Mets in that game.
01:11:40
You pitched four and 1/3 innings.
01:11:42
Got, uh um, no decision in that game.
01:11:45
But that game to this day still provides him with one of my very favorite plays in Met history.
01:11:51
Top of this everywhere.
01:11:52
Yeah, top second. Nothing.
01:11:55
Nothing.
01:11:56
Russell, mourn with Jeff Kent that second.
01:11:57
All right.
01:11:58
J d at first, nobody out.
01:12:00
What do you remember from your vantage point is that ball head start showing green and right? I just remember the ball.
01:12:06
It broke and it was, you know, going off the fence, and then I'm behind.
01:12:10
You know, I think that's perfect. Relay.
01:12:12
I'm this behind what you did back there screaming, like, you know, he tags about it.
01:12:16
I'm just bring one on third, like, probably one.
01:12:20
Or we turn around, turn around that thing that he did.
01:12:23
But, you know, that's what I remember.
01:12:25
Just, like over over.
01:12:27
And then you think you just made it in time to tack up a second? Yeah.
01:12:33
You know, I can watch that play every night on YouTube and never get tired of it.
01:12:37
One of the most amazing moments at shape ashore.
01:12:40
The Mets will go on to win that game.
01:12:41
Give them a one nothing lead in the division series against Dodgers.
01:12:44
Then, in a must win Game six of the National League Championship Series against ST Louis.
01:12:49
You pitch five and 1/3 shutout innings defeated defending National League Cy Young Award winner Chris Carpenter to force a Game seven.
01:12:56
Looking back at your career, where would you rank that win among your career highlights? Uh, it's out there.
01:13:05
It's out there.
01:13:06
I You know, I guess, I guess. Yes.
01:13:10
Question.
01:13:11
I mean, I was just I just want to make the postseason vast going.
01:13:14
It doesn't get out.
01:13:15
Six season.
01:13:17
You know that the playoffs right there.
01:13:18
So, you know, I just you know, you know, it was okay, but I'm just, like, think I had the opportunity because stuck down a team anyway, you know? I guess you know it.
01:13:29
You stop there.
01:13:30
Stop there for me, Gladis.
01:13:33
Opportunity to do it.
01:13:34
And the close to no hitter rights right up there as well, I assume. Yes.
01:13:38
And that was it.
01:13:39
This is this Feels like a lifetime ago talking about it.
01:13:44
I see Johan could be, um, the personal hitter.
01:13:47
I guess you know where you know hater.
01:13:51
You know, I guess that is in the past.
01:13:54
But we put it, They're cool.
01:13:57
You say that, You know, I was the 1st 1 to do that.
01:14:00
I'm happy for yo Hot.
01:14:01
But, you know, other than that, I just kind of go out that kept us, you know, into the final are running, I guess.
01:14:08
You know, everyone knows how it turned out the last game.
01:14:10
But just to extend a woman game was it was good enough for Maine.
01:14:14
Well, speaking of that last game, the last out was one of your teammates on those Met teams is now the new manager of the New York Mets and Carlos Beltran.
01:14:22
Granted, he was in his late twenties, early thirties, when you were team mates with him.
01:14:26
But, you know, being around him, could you ever envision him being a major league manager? Yes.
01:14:31
One of those.
01:14:32
You know, everyone says, you know, characters are kind of in a big that managers, and I get that because they kind of control the game.
01:14:39
But you know, Carlos, he has the he He had the stately, quiet demeanor and, you know, they just he knew the thing.
01:14:50
We need the pictures he knew on everything going on out there has that aura about him.
01:14:57
You know, he had that glow going out of town that, you know, it was just He just wasn't that before because I wasn't playing center field. There was.
01:15:07
I felt just what he was doing and I go and the opportunity I'm really happy for.
01:15:12
You know, I think you're great.
01:15:13
He's, you know, he's quiet, but I think it's kind of a good thing.
01:15:18
I think you know, he still, you know, he does a game that isn't something I do very well backed up and rest all that.
01:15:27
I was very, very asked for.
01:15:29
If you look at the back end of your career, it was really marred by injuries.
01:15:33
How hard was it to deal with the injuries and to deal with the fact you wanted to keep on playing and how hard was If you finally say no, it's timeto hang it up.
01:15:41
Well, that was That was the hardest part.
01:15:43
You know, like you know, go back said earlier was I would always you know, if saying, if someone we here give me the ball.
01:15:51
I was always gonna take it.
01:15:53
I don't care if I had a solo.
01:15:55
That kind of probably did me in And that this is you know, it was one of my fault.
01:15:59
I don't regret any of that because I still would.
01:16:02
I got a taste of what life would still go out there and give it my best right now.
01:16:07
You know, I had to shore surgeries.
01:16:09
I tried to come back, but it just wasn't the same.
01:16:13
There's nothing better if you know, it's just it's just how everything, you know shook out. I've learned a lot.
01:16:19
I know I'm in a good place about it.
01:16:22
You know it. You know I'm not.
01:16:24
I'm not upset.
01:16:25
It's hard to be like, You know, it was hard to say, Hey, this isn't myself pitching.
01:16:30
I can't do this anymore.
01:16:32
But other hand was like, you know, I gave him my home and I wouldn't change anything, and it's only no, I'm fine with that on my piece of that.
01:16:40
So if someone asked you the day you left the Mets to take a look at the locker room in that pitching staff, if someone told you nine years from today, Ali Perez would still be on a major league roster.
01:16:52
Would you have taken that bet? I mean, I am e.
01:16:57
I love I arrest you way.
01:17:00
We're pretty good food.
01:17:01
And we were pretty good friends, don't I? I tell you what.
01:17:05
He basically means he only has only great.
01:17:12
Um, I guess would be the only one.
01:17:15
I mean, no, I mean, maybe not.
01:17:17
But, you know, it doesn't say you have to serving.
01:17:21
You're not going well.
01:17:22
He's also has great stuff.
01:17:23
But, you know, it's funny, not funny in a bad way.
01:17:28
Things are, you know for sure.
01:17:30
I mean, that I'm looking at some of those staffs, and I just I can't even I mean, listen, the lefty specialist is, ah, a certain role in baseball, and he's been able to really fulfill that for a number of yes, and he's been able to jump into a ah relieving role.
01:17:45
I tried that with the other 13 pollen.
01:17:48
I could not do that.
01:17:50
And, you know, some some people cancel can't.
01:17:53
It's awesome, but I actually saw him on TV and rueful.
01:17:57
I just remember all the funny times that the funny things that he said that sometimes the locker room take a Zantac.
01:18:04
But it is.
01:18:06
It is funny that you look back and, you know, you think in 2008 you know who's still picking.
01:18:11
You are even playing guys.
01:18:13
They're doing it in.
01:18:15
You know, I think it's great, but But you have stayed in the game.
01:18:21
In 2014 the Charlotte 49 his baseball team announced that you joined the staff of your alma mater is a volunteer assistant.
01:18:27
Currently, you're involved with Showcase Baseball Academy of Lake Norman, which is a youth development program in college Baseball Softball Preparatory Academy, where values like passion, integrity and team work of the foundation of the SP a youth development and you become part of S P A.
01:18:42
And what is your role there? Well, so, um, I guess I'm in a nutshell.
01:18:47
You know, I started with Charlotte.
01:18:48
I just you know, you know, Coach Chip asked me to come on, and I basically did that kind of kill time.
01:18:54
I would do nothing else except like all I needed to do something else.
01:18:57
That the other help I want to tell me.
01:19:00
E started it um I felt I felt that I like Toki and people.
01:19:06
I felt that I was some, like, decent people, like, you know, maybe doing it.
01:19:12
But I feel for the most part pictures they got better.
01:19:15
I enjoyed doing it.
01:19:17
You did that for a year that I have started.
01:19:20
I opened a base authority.
01:19:23
Just no official it will live on.
01:19:25
And, uh, I owned that.
01:19:27
Now we have teams.
01:19:29
We do things like that.
01:19:32
I've always found a passion like I really enjoy teaching, you know, kids not only baseball, but it just kind of the best of my abilities.
01:19:43
A you know, kind of have to navigate certain, you know, aspects of their life and kind of being invent.
01:19:48
Or I try surrounding them with other instructors in there that still that same way about helping that's just not baseball.
01:19:55
Because baseball isn't the ultimate goal is not the most important thing, but at least 1/2 fun.
01:20:00
And they're trying to help them be better people.
01:20:02
And I've really enjoyed doing it.
01:20:04
We're doing four years.
01:20:05
We partner with the original SDA that isn't South Charlotte.
01:20:09
Andi.
01:20:10
It's a great partnership, but for what I've got going up.
01:20:12
There is really been fun.
01:20:14
And I bought, traded for think wrote it.
01:20:17
You know, I you know, Monday through Friday, then I'm coaching on the weekends.
01:20:21
I really do love it.
01:20:22
So you've only been out of the game for six years, but there's so much new information in the game with the ****ytics.
01:20:27
So now that your coach and you're helping youth pictures, what what part of that information do you think holds weight and what can be ignored? Like, what do you want to pass on to these pictures? So, you know, I do get asked a lot by, you know, the younger generation coming up, and now I get parents that are coming in there with their kids free the West 30.
01:20:47
I think there's a place for some of it.
01:20:49
And then there's time working, Kind of.
01:20:54
I don't like teacher towards the ****ytics bomb pitching.
01:21:00
I don't Everyone cares about the hour, that kind of stuff.
01:21:04
I don't care what you do.
01:21:05
You pick the ball up there and get guys outside and 400.
01:21:07
Happy with that? I will work with you to make that you know that possibly be by underhand A moment they pick about doesn't There's there's something to be said for, you know, being the best picture somebody convey or trying to, I guess teach towards a radar gun kind of stored.
01:21:25
You know, these ****ytics There is a place for because, you know, my going to get these kids in the college.
01:21:32
Dude, that's my ability.
01:21:34
And how do you do? Look at that.
01:21:35
However, there is a tradeoff to getting out of work, you know, these ****ytics type of thing and some really great at it from his art.
01:21:45
And it is a balancing act, but it's I mean, I do like it.
01:21:49
I do like something, but it's hard with, you know, it's hard all around.
01:21:54
Like I said, I'm sure I'm there to help these kids be the best puzzle pitch they could be.
01:21:58
Generally, they do turn out kind of throwing harder, being better pictures, that kind of things.
01:22:04
But I strictly don't just look at Ah, you know, these numbers, these high speed cameras there we have it here.
01:22:10
I don't like teaching towards that.
01:22:12
Um, you know, I mean, I just signed.
01:22:14
Uh, there's a place for something.
01:22:18
You know.
01:22:19
Then there's other times like, Hey, let's play baseball with good guys out there.
01:22:21
You know, you have a good time doing that where confuse people find more about S p a.
01:22:26
And where can they follow you these days? And social media? So we have no sda like norman dot com is our website.
01:22:33
Uh, I guess on, uh, probably Facebook is N c s p a on.
01:22:39
And then we know we post things And, uh, like I said, anybody this area we know we love you. Come up.
01:22:44
It doesn't matter.
01:22:45
We'd love to help you out of the way we can get you.
01:22:47
The Connelly already is.
01:22:49
You know, if you want to come hang out about baseball and talk shop while you go out there and do that, I love it.
01:22:54
Oh, if we sent a J down there to get him in college, I think the officials might come and arrest him.
01:22:59
But that's a different story.
01:23:01
While John thanks way find a way to try to find a place for the numbers, it might have to be an assisted living place. John.
01:23:10
John, thanks so much for your time time.
01:23:12
More importantly, thanks for five quality seasons here with the Mets.
01:23:15
Really enjoyed watching you pitch for the Mets, you know, anytime.
01:23:18
Thank you.
01:23:19
I appreciate you having me on pleasure.
01:23:20
John Mayne, former New York Met, will be back with Sunday papers to close it out right after this thief.
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01:24:44
Heard from three Dog Night with Your Lies, Comment and Joe Jackson.
01:24:47
Sunday paper.
01:24:48
Maybe we just go top four. No.
01:24:50
Casey Casey.
01:24:51
New format for radio baby.
01:24:53
All right, so a J what is that thing hasn't hit the Sunday papers yet.
01:24:57
What are you doing on Wednesday? What am I doing on Wednesday? Wednesday? Yeah, Actually, this one's AM interviewing Theo three for the that.
01:25:03
I was gonna ask if you wanted to stop it.
01:25:05
You just say that's real nice.
01:25:07
So I said, Okay, I'm free.
01:25:10
What's going on with you? Want to take a trip out the same old Minnesota Wait.
01:25:17
A conservative synagogue in ST Paul, Minnesota where? Wednesday night Monica Havoc.
01:25:24
It's there.
01:25:25
A risk Night of wrestling Second wrestling event.
01:25:27
This synagogue and ST Paul, Minnesota is have its build with the Temple of Aaron is the name of the shul Play host.
01:25:34
One electric event with a legendary cold cabana, former W T.
01:25:38
V star Matt Side L and Mr Independent rival star David Starr.
01:25:42
So you go out there.
01:25:43
The temple's having resting under way.
01:25:44
The having our land, the sanctuary.
01:25:46
But if you look, the doors opened at six o'clock.
01:25:49
Which, of course, is when they have Minion. Wait.
01:25:51
Are you sure the doors open or the doors to the Ark open? They open a little later.
01:25:56
The doors open at six o'clock time in some way.
01:25:59
What time is sundown in Minnesota? Maybe it is earlier.
01:26:01
Maybe it is that about that, you know? So it's you go to the temple and look, they're turning the festival of lights into the festival lights out.
01:26:09
So I'm trying to find out if you know, one of these relations is supposed to go two rounds and he's really gonna go eight.
01:26:14
That's for your food before you really just do that.
01:26:18
Did you? That's good.
01:26:21
So if you're anywhere near the Temple of Aaron, you would think if they're doing this, at least one of the wrestlers would have been named Judah Mac.
01:26:29
A beer, right or something like that is the second time they've done it.
01:26:33
So look, this is a temple that in March is sponsoring the big night of Jewish thought, a conversation about 21st century Jewish and Jewish ethics.
01:26:42
But in December comes December. Hanukkah.
01:26:45
Having Scott mechanic a havoc.
01:26:47
I was helping a resident.
01:26:49
If you're gonna smoke having incorrectly right, why not spell it in with the CH? You know, if you're going to go that foreign Spode and correctly at least make the ch where's where's our guy, Cletus? I know this is different from Hammer.
01:27:04
You have, by the way, you're gonna have to pack a heavy coat because he forecast for Wednesday night is four degrees.
01:27:13
That's it.
01:27:14
That's warm in ST Paul, Minnesota, this time of year.
01:27:16
So we need to know when you've got Your Tallis way.
01:27:22
Need to call you like you like music.
01:27:25
Most things right, we have music.
01:27:27
Rick is defined a song to end.
01:27:30
He confined Tom Larrys, Hanukkah and Santa Monica.
01:27:33
You put the guy on the pressure's gonna be updated in 10 seconds to find this song.
01:27:37
But if I think we need to have a follow up Sunday papers next week, we need to find someone that went to see what happened.
01:27:44
And that might be one of our guests next week, believe it or not.
01:27:47
But I want to find one of these wrestlers because I don't get it.
01:27:50
Is there a wrestling? I mean, back in the day when I went to Florida, there was like a different wrestling organization way stretchable Is any saying Louis? Clearly not for Theo Stern Winters.
01:28:12
Now, now we know the age difference, because if I was going to do anything, it would've been a crazy nights with Adam Sandler.
01:28:20
What year was this song from Wreck? It doesn't have a year on it without any cancer by the hens it on later.
01:28:26
That is tough, yet I don't I don't see the year here on this video forties.
01:28:34
Now is I don't have anyone to say goodbye to be as everyone tuned off after that.
01:28:38
That that that is a really exciting little tags for everyone The tuning in.
01:28:43
We'll see everyone next weekend.
01:28:44
We will try to have one of the wrestlers on next week.
01:28:46
That's my goal.
01:28:47
Have a great when everybody see you next week.
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