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Ah, here on a Thursday morning, coming in with not late breaking news from this information came out yesterday.
We certainly mentioned it when we were last on as that news was coming through that in fact, the ah, New York football giants are dealing with a little bit of an injury.
High ankle sprain, other calling it for Daniel Jones.
And as of right now, signs indicate that Eli Manning will be starting for the New York Giants.
Come Monday night in the match up there, down in Philadelphia, taking on the Eagles.
This is Ah, weird, right? Weird.
It's weird to see you like getting back in.
I know there's some chatter around the idea of him getting a send off for farewell game.
Uh, last game this season would be against the Philadelphia Eagles.
Certainly, I didn't want you being in the cars.
I don't think you go back to some of the information own report that came out around him and getting benched and even going back to the previous regime with Ben McAdoo.
And, you know, I think that Eli, whether or not he feels like you could still player should be the start of the team.
I think he also looks at it as being You made a move to a new quarterback.
Uh, wouldn't be expecting them to bench potentially Daniel Jones the final game of the season just to give him, ah, farewell opportunity.
Likewise, on the other side of it, something that I talked about with Andy MCA wits when we were recording our last podcast episodes, saying, You know, last game this season, we highlighted this.
You know, if you get paint me a scenario where Daniel Jones wins the last game against the Philadelphia Eagles to knock them out of playoff contention, you know, is this division is still wide open with the Dallas Cowboys for them? Yeah, and assuming it doesn't affect our draft status in terms of where we select in the upcoming 2020 draft, I've before that.
And think about.
Remember Eli Manning back in his rookie season, winning that final game of the year, certainly building some confidence for himself, building some confidence for this team overall.
Ah, something other things that people are highlighting just in terms of Daniel Jones.
Oh, and this injury, if he were to Mrs if he does miss Monday and then maybe Mrs another game as well, the Miami game following up the next week, they're, um they they likened it to ah, Sam Darnold there when he had an opportunity with the injury last year to sit back, watch a veteran play in the town there and maybe learn a couple of things after having been in that starting position and ah, being able to get sent back and kind of think about the things that you've been doing throughout the start of the year and then watch a veteran quarterback of work his way through it.
You know, listen is weird for me because I coming into the season.
I mean, I I have any life supporter it the Giants.
It stuck with him as the starter throughout the year.
I wouldn't have been necessarily against it, though.
Once you draft a guy like Daniel Jones, you certainly think about what we need to know we have in him.
But there's so much upheaval around this team.
I think one of the things that you come out of this year.
Knowing is that regardless of where Eli is now in his career, um, these last couple of seasons, I think some of that plane was getting put in his feet.
It's a lot of user to kind of take that step back and say, I'm not so sure now, right? You know he may be, too.
May be over the hill now.
His skills may be diminished, but 23 years ago, when this team was still performing well below par and you want to lay it at his mobility or lack thereof? Listen, Daniel Jones offers you a lot from that standpoint, But, you know, you see the trouble on the offense of lines we've been highlighting on here, the trouble on the defensive side of the ball.
This is just a team that has a ton of hole.
So, um, it'll be interesting.
It will certainly be Ah, oddly, even in the short term, nostalgic to see him back out there taking on the Philadelphia Eagles, it will ah been effectively eliminate Daniel Jones.
We're having played every team within the division as they've already played their two games against Dallas, taking on Washington once, and then This would be the first match up here with Philadelphia, the last game at the end of the year being that second divisional matchup.
So worried to come in and play, you know, will be in like we're to be like.
Manning will be very interesting to see how he looks in this game, and you know what the expectations can be.
We highlight just briefly here, talking about Carson Wentz, Zeus, who's played to a 60 to completion percentage, going for 2800 yards, giving you 20 touchdowns and seven interceptions.
You've got Zach Ertz, currently the leading receiver on this team with 736 yards for him.
And then you talk about guys you know in this running back and group.
Just this plethora of players giving you stuff.
But I mean, Howard still the leader there, 525 yards, right behind their smiles, Sanders with 520 Carson Wentz doing been scrambling for nearly 200 yards in this game.
Um, you know, I'm not gonna go too much into the dissection of it.
Just wanted to highlight what we seen there.
We'll go ahead and also head over here and just give a update.
What? We've seen information around this that they asked. Ah.
Was there any any plan to potentially, um, have Eli have affair Will start to ask that it was a, um very short, No, from Pat Shurmur in terms of what they were expecting, with or without that injury from Daniel Jones.
So that was the straightforward response there.
Obviously, we've been highlighting on these last couple of broadcast here on SportsCastr about the upheaval in and around this organization.
Expectations about what's gonna go on when the off season comes.
What we do know right now is updates for the Daniel Jones course.
Says it is the high ankle sprain, moderate high ankle sprain.
As a patron recalls, It is week to week and is doubtful for the Monday night game.
Not officially ruled out, but doubtful at this point, Evan Anger came out and said that he does believe that he will be available for Monday night.
So that will certainly be nice if we're talking about Eli Manning having the full complement of weapons at his disposal.
So after missing now, what I think was four games for him, he'll be back potentially will be back in action here come Monday night and then Ah, no updates today from them.
As of yesterday, Golden Tate, you're Brill Peppers, Rhett Ellison.
Ah, Aldrick rose sauce and courting downtown.
All questionable on that was going to December December 1st for Cory down time being questionable as he was diagnosed with a concussion in the Green Day match up and didn't return.
Ah Shermer, in terms of the injury there without with Rosa said that he hurt his shoulder in that 31 13 loss.
There s so we'll see if anything comes in.
We saw that they made some moves, bringing in some other kickers, potentially Thio cover for Rosa in his absence.
And then, ah, Jabrill Peppers, I think will air on the side of caution with, and I wouldn't expect him to be back in this game.
But if he is healthy, I think we'll be back out there.
Same thing you know, with four games suspended now may be missing a couple of games here with injuries.
This really does become.
You want talk about when this If if this regime turns over, I would expect Golden Tate to be a guy that is moved on from for a multitude of reasons, but the biggest, of course, being just that between the suspension of the health you're dealing with.
A lot of you know, this is a lot of problems, right? And for a guy who's gonna be 31 32 years old next year, wide receiver, that's usually where things start to taper off for you.
You're seeing the progress of various Laden.
Might as well go back into that draft and get younger again.
We've highlighted the wide receiver spot there in terms where we think the Giants made trying to do in the off season going into the draft.
But, you know, I mean, this is just, ah, a difficult time to kind of gauge where some of these players are going to go.
But that being said, those are your injury updates.
If Evan Ingram is back out there and healthy and then certainly will monitor what goes on with Daniel Jones over the next few days does get the extra day as they play on Monday.
Still a chance that he may end up playing for this team.
We Ah, go back in and just take a quick look here.
We will highlight.
Well, you know, we'll do a couple things first.
Let's highlight Eli Manning.
Should he play in this game on Monday night? What did we see from him in the 1st 2 weeks of this season? A CZ.
Those were the games where he had an opportunity perform.
In those two games, he completed 56 of 89 passes, good for nearly 63% 556 yards, 6.
2 up her completion, 282 yards a game, giving you two interceptions. Two touchdowns.
Took two sacks as well.
Ah, and ah had played to a 78 Q B's 780.7 q B rating.
And then here's the telling number as well, because as you go through these numbers now in Daniel Jones rookie season, um, who is giving you 61.
6 completion percentage of less than you? I'm in that game sample size, averaging 6.
2 yards per completion, just aboutthe same.
The 237 yards for game obviously is a bit lower.
Small sample size from Eli, obviously as you know, 18 touchdowns, 11 interceptions has taken 33 sacks over those 11 games.
So averaging three.
Get exact three and 1/2 times That's on him.
That's a team stat line.
84 rating to the 78.7.
So relatively close, right? But then you go inside the Q b r, which takes in the point of the game action.
You know, when some of the mistakes or interceptions turnovers or made Eli Manning in those two small sample size of two games, but 29.
8 q b r to the 53.
2 q B R rating for Daniel Jones.
Maybe that's a little bit more telling.
Then we realized the hard part for me as well.
Pivot over and just kind of highlight where, where the ah Eagles rank in some of their stat lines, right? Um, the interesting thing for me is looking at this game and thinking, I'm not going to say I really do think it.
Five and seven Eagles desperately need to have this one to keep themselves going.
It's in Philadelphia.
Expectations have to be that this is a game that the yields we're gonna beat up on the Giant, certainly from an offense is perfect if you expected to get like, every team has been doing upwards of 30 points on this giant's defense right now.
But it's so it's so weird.
If somehow you, like, comes out and plays well, you know what we could keep my learning about? The Giants are playing themselves into a strong draft picks election.
You hate to see them come out here and somehow upset the Philadelphia Eagles on the strength of a get back game for real.
I'd approve regards of what he does after this season, that he still had something in the tank and, you know, matter of cir***stance for him getting benched here of either Giants the start of the season.
But I don't see that being the case ultimately, but it's just weird.
This is just gonna be weird if you want Eli Manning, if in fact, ends up starting on Monday night on one of the were Ah, I was thinking about this in this last over this last week as well.
Um, it's the nature of the NFL, right? I mean, you haven't You haven't thought about Eli Manning since week too after week to when they need that.
Made the move to Daniel Jones, the franchise quarterback who was drafted in 2003 and has been the face of this organization for so many years.
Gone, right? I mean, just on the sideline, you know, I think for a week or two after that they highlighted Eli Manning, you know, whatever.
And you seen him on the sidelines.
But he's just another player on the team right now.
And that's a very weird feeling for, you know, lifelong Giants fan.
And then the guy that has been again the franchise quarterback since 2003.
You're talking about 15 years off at the helm.
Ah, and now that time has come to an end.
And I was actually listening to a little bit of boomer and carton there.
Boomer and Carton go back couple of years there.
Boomer and Geo here this morning and they were talking about a couple of these players, right? Where do you think these guys are gonna be, Andy? Adult playing on another team next year? Uh, Cam Newton playing starting on another team next year.
A guy like Marcus Mariota opportunity maybe to start somewhere else on a team.
They got to Philip Rivers, and it was That's the hard one to decide.
This River's realized his career is over.
If you think it's just been a bad year, they're in.
Now for the Chargers and then talking todo you didn't even highly about Eli Manning.
I think it's almost a foregone conclusion.
Eli Manning can say whatever you want to know whether or not he could still start in the NFL or play, I think cir***stantially you see around the NFL this year.
Certainly these young players, right? Look down in Jacksonville, where Nick Foles has just look disastrous coming back from his injury.
You talk about how they had a nice room with Jordan, Menchu, Alan and Carolina.
Certainly you seeing the way some guys have regressed like Mitchell, Travis Key and having up and down season.
But the young quarterbacks getting into game action and being at least serviceable but you above average in these games has made it very interesting.
When you think about these names all of the sudden going to the off season, veteran quarterbacks are going to have a hard time getting into situations where they have a chance to compete.
Now there's always gonna be places like a Chicago that is gonna look outside, said you.
Shall we consider getting in a veteran quarterback with this defense where it currently stands? Toe help us make that big jump here when you feel you have a window for yourself.
But you know, by and large, Eli Manning is a guy who has nothing.
Maybe just had a son as well recently, but has two daughters and, you know, has based himself in the New York New Jersey area.
And I just think that up heating, Ah, family like that for a year or two somewhere else seems unlikely, certainly, in his scenario, getting inside the numbers real quick.
Here we talk about offensive leaders.
The Philadelphia Eagles are not one.
The Philadelphia Eagles Full.
Where are they? Fly.
Eagles fly there right in the middle of the pack. Here.
It's actually back in there, the back third of here in terms of its terms of yardage per game.
Ah, you know they leading the league is the Cowboys, with 433 yards.
Baltimore Ravens for 20 Seattle 3 93 84 for the Cheese, The Bucks at 3 80 of all of all teams to get up there as well.
And even after this, after Francisco 40 Niners with 378 yards per game average.
There you talk about the Eagles.
Nothing to scoff at.
The Giants are a handful of, ah, numbers down the list there.
3 16 You go a little bit deeper inside of it talking about those passing yards.
Ah, the Eagles again.
Now little more middle of the road here with the almost 2700 of the season.
I should just got start straight to the yards per game number, which, uh, more specifically puts the Eagles again.
Top 2/3 of the league here. 223.
Nothing to write home about.
From that standpoint, the Giants are right behind in there to 21 s.
So you can know that if the Giants are there in a category, it's a problem for you.
So they've obviously struggled here offensively, those rushing yards per game again.
Eagles are going to be that modeling back and ah, they're close to let's see 24 60 10 12 13th in rushing yards at the 1 18 mark.
So the running game is living a little bit more effective for them on.
I would certainly think, maybe try to go the way The Giants have been good.
It's timing some of the running games for other teams, certainly over the last hand Fulla Week at times.
So be curious to see if they could just get healthy against the Eagles.
That is against what has been a very suspect secondary for the Giants, and it's usually with the difficult part is right.
The team that maybe does something well in our defense can try to take away one element.
But when the Eagles have struggled passing the bowl, this is the obvious get right kind of game for them against the Giants defense in terms of points per game as well.
We go ahead and find the Eagles right there again.
Middle of the road and 22 nearly 23 Giants at 19.
You know, high teams on this season or Baltimore nearly 34 29 for San Francisco.
The chief's a 29 but you talk about San Francisco.
You know San Francisco in Baltimore, but with the way those with the way their defense is play.
I've been playing pretty strong football for them and then talking about this offensive output.
I mean, it feels like you're heading in this direction when you talk about Super Bowl matches.
Be interesting to see how that plays out, but ah, you know, again.
So to muddling teams here, the Eagles are not a good team this year.
That's the bottom line when you talk about this, and I think that's why you know, if you're a Giants fan and you're talking about getting one of those top selections, you just get concerned about any matchup that you go into.
We were highlighting, you know, the Washington game.
The ah, the Miami Dolphins game is being one of those concerning one, certainly, but the Eagles aren't good, and it can just can become potentially.
It's horse up gain.
I've looked over the lines yet we could get into those.
I mean, the Eagles are slowing the favored on now.
Wonderful move it all when you talk about going from Jones, potentially TV Manning in this matchup as well.
I think it will, and I think that's the Giants.
Get more points.
Ah, we dive in real quick here in terms of the yardage total.
Ah, you know, Eagles are in pretty good position.
Their top 15 giving up 3 23 See the 32 per game Giants at 3 73 back into the bag back seven here in the league, certainly, where the Eagles have success and or struggle in the Games Boys.
San Francisco 134 passing on average per game could gravy.
That is impressive.
I mean, even the pages of 1 63 and the Bills at 1 95 But, I mean, at average, giving up 134 yards that gained in today's NFL is insane to 60 for the Giants.
Just give you a sense of that there, and they are on the back end of this one.
Eagle is not too much better at 2 40 but close to the middle of the pack, and then we talk about rushing yards given up.
This is where we said, you know, Giants have been better out of the two of the two categories.
1 14 The Eagles have been uh, he's been very strong against the D.
They're actually starting to run, so giving up just 91 yards a game.
So you talk about things you want to eliminate and make it harder for the Giants.
I think that this is why this game actually ends up being You know more easily to put in the favor of the Eagles.
It's want. It's in Philadelphia, Chew.
They absolutely need this win.
And if you don't, you're talking about kissing your season goodbye, potentially, and then the other side of it is you want talk about one of the best weapons it's taken Barclay for the scene.
Struggling offensive line for the Giants? Certainly, but you start by shutting down the run game.
First, you put the pressure on you.
I have to go potentially to the passing attack.
And then from there, you just see if you can again bear it out.
We've seen this over the games, right? You're you're down by four points, going to the fourth quarter against the the agreement.
Hackers end up losing 31 13.
You're giving up 30 points defensively, every team, even the teams that struggle offensively, get right in these ones as well.
And then, of course, in terms of defensive points allowed per game, the Eagles are surrendering nearly 24 23 points. Seven.
The Giants are averaging 28.
So again, this is a neck and neck.
A lot of these stat lines do match up fairly evenly, which, from a draft perspective, could be a little concerning if you're a New York Giants fan because you want to make sure years up the best chance yet when those top two selections.
But that being said, those are the news and notes we've touched on the injury updates as we head through the weekend will come back in and highlight any of those beyond that, We also started touch on that second theory.
Walk through some of those free agent opportunities that were out there for the New York football Giants.
I will be coming back in.
Um, I'll say tomorrow.
Most likely image possibly later today, but more than likely come back in tomorrow, start to highlight the draft selections and where the Giants, when you wanna look there and then possibly over this weekend, giving the Giants won't play until Sunday, I can go back in and really start to highlight the big board here for the Giants.
And I think between Andi Mack, wits and myself, we're going to start to look at getting ourself a Web site up and going, Even if it is something possibly overthrew the patriotic platform, we'll start the highlight.
Our big board off season looks so that way as you're coming in here and maybe taking a listen on some of the positions that we're talking about the free agent possibilities that you could start to go over and then have a running tally of where we said we think the Giants could go.
The players that were highlighting and listen.
It's all speculation at this point.
As we move through the offseason, though, we'll start to see how those things have those boxes check off what moves we make. We re signed a letter.
How does that impact our draft picks as well, So school would be keeping an eye on all of that type of information.
Is it worked through? The one thing I almost forgot before we get out of here is that I will possibly come in and check in on what will be the, uh, Thursday night football matchup, which, unfortunately, I gotta admit, I'm gonna have Thio take a look here as to and it will be the Dallas Cowboys US Chicago Bears tonight.
So that'll be the match up for tonight.
I'll probably check in live, and we'll do our free agency.
Look, we touched on the Cowboys once before, will dive back in on them again here and then also take a look at the Chicago Bears and outlined some of those players we have mentioned Ha ha Clinton Dix of being a possible target there in the secondary for the Giants in the off season.
So I will take a live look in there.
I'm doing my We got Nets coverage here on SportsCastr as well, uh, recovering the Denver Nuggets taking on the New York Knicks tonight because that is ah, Nick's cross town rival and then the Denver Nuggets that the Nets will take a look at following their matchup tomorrow with Charlotte Hornets.
So double duty going on tonight, But I will poke in, uh, possibly I'll think that I'll probably check in at the start of the Thursday night games.
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Listen, more news, that note as we move weekend here certainly interesting times didn't think I would see the quarterback that I basically grew up with as a New York football Giants fan, but here he is, potentially getting a start against the division rival on Monday night.
I will keep you abreast of all that and then again start to work through some of our off season plans for the New York football giants.
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