Hello Lakers Nation Trevor playing here for Lakers nation dot com.
And this is the Lakers Nation postgame show breaking down the Lakers.
Well, unfortunate loss to the Dallas Mavericks.
Lakers fall, snapping the 10 game losing start, hurting him winning streak.
They lose 1 14 to 100.
Now they're gonna head out on road some really difficult games coming up in the month of December.
Hopefully, this isn't a sign of things to come.
We're gonna be breaking it all down.
And joining me is Chris Masters.
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How you doing, man? Uh, I'd like to sing good, but that was a little tough.
That was That was that was really difficult.
We kind of knew this was coming, but you know what I mean? Shot out to our sponsor up time, energy drinks.
Sometimes Those mid afternoon games are a little bit tough to get the energy for.
And right now, the Lakers were certainly struggling in that in that regard.
I think you're going to take some heat on this, cause in our last show, you were talking about how we'll lose Could be good for them to sharpen them up and everything.
But I know we weren't hoping for that, necessarily against the Dallas Mavericks here tonight? No.
Yeah, we said that more is like like a silver lining.
Hey, if they lose the game, maybe that will force them to play a little bit Sharper.
Forced them to come with a little bit more urgency because you can get a little bit complacent when you're winning and winning and winning and winning.
You just think it's always going to work out for you.
Sometimes it takes falling down in order to get you back and fighting again.
I guess that's a roundabout way of saying it.
So, yeah, though the Lakers just maybe they need this.
Maybe this will have them come out with some greater urgency in their next game, which is gonna be a tough one against the Denver Nuggets.
But you know what? It's still we weren't rooting for a loss or anything like that, because if you were gonna lose, this was not the game to lose the back to back set coming up.
Dropping one of those games if you were gonna lose one, was the one who lives, not your final home game before heading out on a road trip.
Yeah, well, and especially to now, because we as you know, when I know today now we're gonna hear it from all the Laker aiders that all we've had was easy teams over the last stretch.
And now we get a legit team in the Dallas Mavericks and this happened.
So you know, I mean, it was just a bad.
There's a hard game to watch.
Bad game to watch, you know, They gave up a lot of offensive rebounds.
I can't tell you how many opened three point shots.
I saw the maps here tonight and again.
It's just another one of those things that the Lakers can get.
You know, they they kill people in the paint.
They get a lot of pain points.
But you know, when you get teams, I mean, they almost double them on.
What is the three point man's hit? 17 49? So they took 49 compared to the Lakers.
They hit 7 27 But you know, I don't like those numbers, and I would feel a lot more comfortable if we add some more Reliant three point shooters out there and granted.
Everybody was pretty cold tonight.
Danny Green started out.
Start out pretty good.
LeBron look great in the first quarter.
He had them spry legs.
I mean, run look good throughout the game.
But, you know, it's just It was just a lot of open three's a lot of Lakers giving up defensive rebounds.
And, yeah, it was tough.
And this Mavericks team, by the way, is number one in the league.
An offensive rating right now.
That's, you know, early in the season that reading is gonna fluctuate quite a bit.
But the bottom line is that whether their first or second or third, this is a good offensive team.
This is a team that is going to score points if you make mistakes.
And the Lakers have become accustomed to playing teams like the Wizards, where if you make mistakes, it doesn't matter.
They're probably still look gonna score because they're going to get in their own my own half the place anyway.
So the mam's, though, are very, very good.
And if you saw it today, credit to them.
They were great at at recognizing what the Lakers were doing and then adjusting and finding the open man.
So if the Lakers made on over commitment into the paint, which happened a lot, I saw the the Lakers time and time again send one extra defender into the paint.
The Mavs would make them pay with the quick kick outside, sometimes leading the one more secondary pass.
And then it was an open look and so that the fans were generating those every time the Lakers made a mistake with the rotation, which happened a lot today, the man's were were recognizing it and killing them on it.
And the better teams are going to do that.
And so the Lakers defense, I think, was the biggest concern with this one.
They've got to get on the same page because for much of this game, they just weren't well and a big part of what you're talking about.
And I'm sure a lot of people are probably writing in right now.
You know, this was not the game produce.
He missed a lot of reputations and he did not shoot Well.
Yeah, Kyle Kuzma.
I thought this was probably his roughest performance of the season so far.
And I'm even including those early games, there were so many times where I saw Koosman not just not make the right read, but make the wrong rotation on the defensive end.
He had a really, really tough time. And look again.
The Dallas Mavericks do an excellent job of recognizing where the help is coming from and then making the correct counter pass.
So you have to be a very, very high level defender to read those things and understand what's going to happen.
And Koosman is just not right now, and so it puts extra pressure on him to read and react, and he's just not good at this moment.
He's got to get better at it.
But in this game, he was particularly poor with The decision is that he was making on that end of the floor, and I'm curious to see what your take is on this trip.
What would cause the Lakers, uh, giving up this many defensive, you know, offensive rebounds to the maps.
Well, I think part of it was when we saw it a little bit was just bad luck, right? We saw some missed threes by the Mavericks that led the long rebound, so the Lakers would actually have good inside position.
But it would take a long bounce than the Mavericks would wind up scooping up the rebound.
So that was part of it.
But the other part of it was, I thought the Lakers did a really poor job with a secondary rebounder.
So you saw, um, kind of the Brook Lopez style rebounds.
If you remember the season the Brook Lopez spent with the Lakers, Julius Randle put up.
I believe it was his career high in boards, and the reason for that was because Brook Lopez would box out the other team's best rebounder.
And then Randall was there to gobble up everything after it was tipped or whatever.
And the Lakers did a really bad job that today you would have JAVALE you would have Dwight Howard sometimes Anthony Davis boxing out on guys like poor Zynga's boxing out.
Guys like Boban was out there for a while, Powell, who was an extremely energetic rebounder.
These are guys you have to put a body on, and there were times when the Lakers just didn't do a good job putting a body on them in boxing out.
But then when they did and they couldn't really control the rebound, that secondary rebounder wasn't doing a great job getting in and getting control of the basketball.
And so that's something that I felt they needed a thought. Koosman Again.
I hate to pile on him, but I thought he did a poor job at that.
But ultimately, it really hurt them on the offensive glass. I mean, look at this.
The Lakers gave up against 16 offensive rebounds.
That is, Ah, that's pretty brutal.
You can't give up that many offensive boards, and I know I don't have it right in front of me.
But terms of second chance points the Mavs got a ton of them, and so that's definitely something that Frank Vogel is going to be addressing before they head out on the road.
Yeah, and, well, you know.
So the maps didn't start the game up very well.
They had some turtle birds, but I think it was after their first time out in the first quarter that they really started protecting the ball, and I think they might have went through a long stretch of the game without even getting a turnover after that, after that point.
And I think actually around in the third corner, third quarter, where they started really getting away from the Lakers.
I think I think the maps were just taking better care of the ball.
They were moving the ball better books.
They're reading those offensive rebounds and really hurt the Lakers.
Yeah, look and credit again.
Credit to the Mavs.
Credit to Rick Carlisle was a great coach.
They did a tremendous job recognizing what the Lakers were doing and the cutting that down the Lakers shot horribly.
They shot, I believe, 26% from deep.
So that was, Ah, big problem here.
But like the Mavericks there, they executed their game plan and they got their shots to fall.
And that's that's what it came down to it.
No, it would pretty, but yeah, it's Ah, it was unfortunate that it came at this point, but hopefully they can recover and rebound from it.
A lot of comments, then your lot.
A lot of anti Kyle Kuzma comments we've got here.
Tony A from YouTube saying coups does not fit in.
He looks lost out there.
Can't defend dread Man Jackson from YouTube coo Koos isn't get any better, I say Trade.
Who's Dudley and Quinn? Cook? They all have to go.
Telmo says coups should have been on a minutes Restriction.
Uh, all kinds of 24 for president from YouTube says trade cooze for Bradley Beal, which cannot happen.
But Chris, what do you think? Is this game enough to make you just write off? Kyle Kuzma? Is that where we should be at this moment? Oh, absolutely not.
I'm still not ready to jump off of the cooze train.
Who's ah? Granted, He has some games like this where you're just kind of scratching your head.
But I've also seen him last season step into a lot of big moments for us.
And granted, it wasn't necessarily in the winning time for Lakers or Laker basketball.
Now I still like the poison receiving cruise.
I like the way he doesn't shy away from big shots.
Yes, he needs to be sharper on the defense event.
Needs to know what the hell he's doing, But I'm I still like cause I'm not ready to jump up that please train again.
Like I said, I would still let's keep going with this.
Let's see if he can get back to form or at least get more consistency out of them.
And I'm just I'm not ready to give up on him.
What do you say? Yeah, Look, this is a young player.
He's what, 23 24 years old, who had one bad game, All right, I mean it.
Look, he's had defensive issues. We know that.
But we've also seen in the last few games we've seen him get hot and can help carry the Lakers from deep.
This was a bad performance sometimes, and this is just my theory.
I don't have any stats to back this up, but it feels like the younger players struggle Maur with the early afternoon starts, right? This was This was a one PM start for the Lakers.
That's tough, Okay? And if you look into the science behind it again, I'm not citing any official stats or anything on this.
But the science behind it is that your brain is just wired a little bit differently when you're younger and it makes it a little bit more difficult to get up and active earlier in the day.
And that's just kind of the way it is.
That's part of the reason why.
You know, as Chris, you probably know this now that we're into our thirties.
I find it a little bit more difficult to sleep in and sleep all day, right? Like if I sleep till eight, that's amazing.
Part of that is having a three year old, but But yeah, this is That's just the way we're wired.
So I don't know if we can say, Oh, that's what's at fault here.
It's just the early start.
I think there's probably a little bit more than that, but I certainly think it's a factor that these afternoon start times the players were off their rhythm.
I said it before the game like weird things happen when you have these made afternoon or early afternoon start times because players aren't used to it.
And so I'm not gonna look at this one game and say, Oh, clearly, Koosman is not the guy for the Lakers.
I just don't think it's time for that.
Oh, and I agree with you as far as early, like these early kind of Madden eight games.
I mean, it's a completely different thing.
It throws you out of your routine completely.
You're not necessarily used.
Used to playing at one in the afternoon or whatever it was you're used to playing later on.
So these little things do, ah, kind of tend to affect you.
But there's another thing I'd like to stress will run the topic coups.
And that is, you know, with young players.
I think the big struggle and I want everybody to understand this out there, too, is consistency, you know, like we see these great moments at a cooze.
But as a young player, sometimes the hardest part for some of these young guys is developing that consistency, and that's extra.
That's actually what a lot of these guys are working towards because you see flashes of who they are.
But you can't see it on the every night basis because they're so young into their development.
They don't necessarily even know how to bring it on a consistent basis like that.
So that that's what I think we're going through with chooses.
He's learning how we can bring that that a game every single night.
And, you know, unfortunately, he didn't have it tonight, but on.
On the other hand, when we're talking about young players, I mean, you know, I don't think Lucas having any problems.
No, he's the exception.
Yeah, Yeah, he's the exception. Absolutely.
You hit the money and you hit the nail on the head.
You were on the money.
Look, Kyle Kuzma, all young players, right? 10 to struggle with consistency.
That is what young players do.
Okay, Don sake is incredible.
He's very, very consistent, but he's the exception.
You can't expect every young player to be able to to show up every single night.
It just it takes time to develop that.
It's not something is gonna happen right away.
Um, I'm getting a lot of people saying, Well, a lot of people still have firing off on Kyle Kuzma.
Uh, that Cal Cal from YouTube saying three point defense was awful, agreed.
And I think when the Lakers go back and watch the tape, they're going to see why they're going to see that they were committing an extra defender into the paint, sometimes needlessly.
And that was opening up the quick cake outside.
And that was leading to open looks.
And that's something that they're gonna have to fix, especially heading into Denver, because they will shoot the three ball as well.
And then you've got Utah on the next night, so they've got some things to work on.
I'm not saying they're easy fixes, but certainly some things that are gonna be I think when they see them, when they look back at it, they're gonna go.
Yes, clearly, we made this mistake here.
That mistake there.
I think there's some real teachable moments within this game.
If we're looking at the positive side of it, Yeah, and I think to go back to what we're seeing a little earlier.
I mean, you know, granted, they took the l tonight, but I think this might actually turn out to be exactly what you were thinking.
I was thinking that it will just sharpen them up and we'll see kind of a bomb or engaged Laker team comma.
When's the next game? I believe it's Tuesday night.
Yeah, so we'll probably see Amore engaged Laker team and we'll see them sharpen up a little bit just based on this loss, because I mean what we were on, like a 10 game a 10 game winning streak at this point, right? Yep. 10 games.
So I mean, you know, a little kick in the butt on a Sunday.
You kind of reset and, uh, you know, approach game Tuesday's game with more focus.
I mean, look, let's let's go back to this.
There's 17 and 3 17 and three on this season.
This is one of the best teams in the league, so the sky is not falling here.
They've got some things to fix, obviously, but we knew that We've known that all along that they had some things that they need to fix.
Here's the thing, though. Chris.
Right now I am ready and in there, it's already coming.
All of the hot take.
So as soon as the Lakers had to play a good team now that now they lose now we're going to see they're not really that good and alive.
They've just had an easy schedule.
They've had an easy ish schedule.
It hasn't been having been a lot of difficult games, but they've done a nice job winning games that they should win, and then against the teams that are pretty solid.
I think they've done an okay job.
This wasn't one of those games.
They didn't play well in this particular game.
But I'm not looking at this and saying, Oh, the Lakers clearly aren't as good as anybody thought they were because they just lost one game.
No, there's Laker.
Laker traders are gonna jump on.
This game would be like, See, See, this is proof the Lakers aren't any good. They're terrible.
What do you guys talking about? They're not championship contender.
No, it's one game out of a 20 game so far this season.
Let's see how they do from here again.
It's December 1st.
By the end of the month of December will have a pretty good idea of exactly where they stand with a little bit more cer*****y than what one game can tell us.
Yeah, it just wasn't there night.
Honestly, I mean, that last five minutes of the fourth quarter they had I actually had a lot of chances to start, started, come back on the mats, but they just were not hitting shots.
I mean, I know Alex grew, so I think the end of the third, or maybe beginning in the fourth, even hit back to back threes and you started getting that feeling is like, All right, here they come.
We're gonna get that run.
Out of what? We're going to see it now, but after that, it's just a bunch of miss shots.
I think Green had multiple attempts.
LeBron miss shots.
You know, LeBron wasn't getting fouled calls again.
And, uh, you know, it just about With five minutes left in the fourth quarter, I was pretty much already convinced this was a loss and thinking about the you know what we were talking about going into today's show. Yeah.
Look, I mean on that particular play, right? I mean, Crusoe hits two threes.
The Mavs called the time out and then two plays in a row.
Luca Don Sick just killed the Lakers because he had a step back three, and Rondo turned his head and got back door cut and led to a lay up. And that was in There was a five.
There's a five point.
What they cut to a 10 point 10 point lead was now back up to 15 and that was pretty much it.
And then, at that point, the game was over so yeah, I looked again.
The credit to the Mavs.
They made the plays they needed to make an order win.
And for the Lakers, they've got a kind of regroup and figure out where to go.
Um, from here I'm seeing all kinds of good people are still upset about about Kyle Cruise.
But I've seen a few people suggest that you put the master lock on Kyle Kuzma.
I don't know what that I don't think that would help.
No, no, I don't think we're there yet.
But, you know, if we get a if we get a few too many more games out of this like who's I mean, we'll be thinking about my have a master.
Everybody always wants me to master lock Whoever is not doing well per our team.
They're still on the team.
You're not going to go put the master that you were really? Put the master lock on on something like Quinn Cook.
Don't throw the master lock on him.
He's a nice guy.
Wait, we need these guys.
This is our team, and we got a d C to 32 from periscope says I'm drinking up time right now.
Well done, D c Proud of you.
24 for president.
Alex Caruso had some good stretches on defense.
Yeah, look, I mean, the 11 guy that kind of stood out that does some good things defensively is Caruso.
And we've talked about that each each show, and people have been jumping honest about it, saying Caruso is not all that good.
No, defensively, he's pretty good.
Yes, he got beat tonight, just like everybody else.
But still, I thought, Alex Caruso is one of those guys that keep scrapping and every team needs him.
He's going to come up big in some of these games for the Lakers of this season.
Oh, yeah, Caruso.
When it comes to a defensive consistency, he's on point, cause even if he's not hitting his shots, he's doing basically everything else.
And I do want to give props, does some of the Laker big because there was a lot of shots that got sent back tonight.
Anthony Davis, JaVale McGee and Dwight Howard.
So I mean, we had some flashes of defense out there tonight, but you know, that just always gets overshadowed by all the defensive lapses in Open Breeze that I saw you.
Unfortunately, it was just that it was just flashes of good defense in the midst of some terrible defense on again.
It was, if you watch.
It was mostly minor mistakes on the defensive end.
Small things here and there over rotating a little bit.
I mean, Kuzma had some big ones, right? Cozma's were major, but but mostly minor mistakes.
But the manager, just very, very good at sniffing out those minor mistakes and then making are getting the ball to the right spot to make you pay for that mistake.
So the better teams are going to do that.
And it's gonna be on the Lakers to fix those little mistakes, especially when they're taking on the Denver Nuggets on Tuesday and they head out on the road.
So that's gonna be a real challenge for them.
I mean, this is gonna be a tough month.
It's gonna be a long December.
We talked about 14 games in this month.
Not gonna be easy for them for sure.
By the way, guys, everybody jumping on Cosmos.
So against Washington, he didn't have a good game, but to go back another one more game, and Kuzma had against New Orleans in New Orleans in a close game.
Koosman 16 points.
He was a major factor in that game.
Yes, he's had two bad games in Rome.
But this guy, the player you saw today is not Kyle Cruise was sealing the That's not gonna be him every single game.
And I hate that.
I feel like I have to defend Koosman so much, but I'm reading all the comments they're saying trade him and all that kind of stuff.
There's another level for him to get to.
At least he's probably got a few more levels than he can get to as he grows as he develops.
I'm gonna write this one off is one bad game and we'll see where it goes from here.
But again, I would I would urge you guys don't give up on Kyle Cruise, but at this point, no.
Again, it goes back to what we're saying.
Everybody, just be patient.
He's one of the kids.
The rest of our kids got traded to New Orleans and he's still gotta work on consistently.
Bringing a game coos every night and he will do that.
Just give him some time.
We don't need to trade them right away or anything like that.
He's a kid, and he's going to get grasp of this.
And how to bring that every night. Absolutely.
Chris, some of the time, The time of day.
We talked about it a little bit.
Being that kind of mid afternoon star. You're kind of groggy.
You traveled all over the world. Wrestling.
Did you have any matches where it started? Way earlier than what you're used to? And then you kind of had to adjust.
Like what? What was that experience like for you dealing with with just being kind of out of rhythm? Yeah, we will work, man.
A shows a lot, actually.
Well, I don't want to see a lot, but we usually, you know, we'd be on the road four days and out of the four days.
We usually do one on a Sunday.
That might be a matinee which could be anywhere from two sometimes maybe as late as five o'clock.
But, you know, it's just usually when your body's not prepped.
Put in that kind of energy at that time of the day.
It takes a little while longer.
Thio get to that point.
It's almost like, for most people might understand, like you get kind of used to working out at a certain time every day, right? You get used to working out it like, let's say, five in the afternoon.
But then all of a sudden, you know, you either go, let's say you go in, you know, 10 a.m.
or something like that.
You just you don't necessarily always have.
Your body's not trained to go with that time, so you don't necessarily have that burst.
Or it's that energy at that time like you normally would.
Oh, absolutely, I can remember from back when I was playing pickup basketball five days a week in my mid twenties, I would go and I would play at 7 a.m.
Sometimes at my local Breck Center, there was a group that would go run at 7 a.
And then there was a late night group they'll be playing at after nine, and after nine o'clock, I was the shooter.
That's that's what I would do out there.
And I mean, my shooting percentage was pretty good.
I don't remember exactly what it was or anything, but but that was my thing.
Everybody knew that you couldn't leave me alone.
Where is when I was in the morning? People used to back off of me and let me shoot, because in the morning I'm body just couldn't get going.
And so I could still be somewhat athletic and drive and do things like that.
But my shot couldn't fall because my body just didn't wasn't in that right rhythm.
And so I get that, too. It's not easy.
It's a struggle.
Yes, these are professional athletes, but understanding the time of day had something to do with it as well.
Um, let's get into some of these questions here.
Some people jumping in, helping out with Cal crews must saying they drafted him for a reason.
Uh oh, some Avery Bradley comments.
We do need to talk about that.
So Avery Bradley, the news on him came out yesterday was a little bit disappointing.
Honestly, uh, and I want to get into why Avery Bradley has that hairline fracture in his right leg, and he's been cleared for, like preliminary basketball activities or progressive basketball activities so they'll let him get out there on the floor and do stuff.
You're not going up against anybody, just kind of making a few cuts and shooting a few jumpers and things like that.
But they're saying he's gonna miss this whole road trips, obviously out today.
Gonna miss the entire road trip.
So no, not there for Denver.
Not there for Utah. Not there for Portland.
He's gonna miss all those games.
And then he will get re evaluated when the Lakers get back next weekend.
So that's another week out for Avery Bradley.
Uh, look, part of the defense of slide that we've seen over the past few weeks for the Lakers is because they've been without Avery.
Bradley, who's a tremendous defender, is great on the perimeter, does a really good job.
So missing him has certainly hurt.
And we saw it in this game.
Losing him definitely hurt in this one.
But if you remember when Avery Bradley was first in injured, the Lakers put out there that he'd be back in one or two weeks and they have a history of doing this of of estimating on the low side rather than shooting for the high side and then surprising people or having people being pleasantly surprised when they come back earlier.
Instead, you've got people expecting him back in a week, maybe two weeks, tops.
And then when he's not back in that time frame, because, of course, he wouldn't be.
People are upset.
They did the same thing with Lonzo Ball's injury last year.
We've seen the Lakers consistently handle injuries this way, and I think it's something I definitely like to see that change.
I'd rather see them estimate on the high side, and then let's be pleasantly surprised when they come back a little bit early.
Yeah, because then everybody gets upset and starts asking questions and it becomes like an issue because you said he was getting back, be back its own still time and now he's not.
And then it's like, What was the injury worse than we expected or just all these questions come along with it.
But it is tough to know we're not gonna have them considering some of the matchups we got coming up with between.
We got Jamal Murray coming up.
We have Damian Lillard.
I mean, he would be super useful, especially on this trip.
That would have been nice if we could have.
Maybe just had him out with its previous stretch, where we had the easier games and at least had him back for some of these upcoming games.
That's that's just it, right? Like it's not just the fact that we were missing him for for four games.
The players he's going you would have been guarding Luca. Don't sick.
Uh, Donovan Mitchell.
You've got Damian Lillard, CJ McCollum, Jamal Crawford.
Like those air started up.
Jamal Crawford, Jamal Murray.
Jamal Crawford guy Everybody wants on the Lakers.
All of those guys are guys that he would have been very, very useful defending, and he's unfortunately out for them.
So the Lakers were gonna have to figure out a way.
Thio get it done without ever Bradley out there? Hopefully, hopefully, fingers crossed.
He can come back after this week and everything turns out well, uh, but we'll see.
We'll see where it goes.
Obviously, a fracture in your leg is nothing to play around with.
And I, as I told you on our previous forecast, I mean, I had a fracture in my ankle and it was.
I mean, it's absolutely terrible.
I mean, it might as well just be a full on break, because that's how it feels, right? Yeah, it's something where he's not gonna be.
He can't just push through it or anything like that.
They've got to be careful. Make sure that it fully heals.
Otherwise, you could actually make it worse.
And that's, um, that's not a good thing.
I do want to mention something here just in terms of the salary cap.
A lot of people thrown out their trade.
Kyle Kuzma, Let me tell you beyond just the Lakers believe in Cosmo, which they do.
And they showed that this summer when they made sure they held on to him and the Anthony Davis trade beyond just that, even if he wasn't someone that they were really high on or anything, which is not the case they are. They're very high on him.
But even if they weren't trading him is very, very difficult.
Because of his salary, which his salary is great for the Lakers.
She's only making 1.
9 million this season, which is a tremendous bargain, but in terms of salary matching that makes it really tough to get value for him.
Maybe you can attach him to another salary, but again, we've talked about this before.
The Lakers have a lot of players that are on that have de facto no trade clauses.
So working out a deal where you send out Can Kuzma.
It's not impossible, but it's difficult to get the kind of value you want.
Like somebody said before Bradley Beal, who is not available, by the way.
But somebody said before trade to him in a deal for Bradley Beal, it's almost impossible to make that work because of Kosmas super low salary.
So while it's great the Lakers don't have to pay much, it also doesn't make him very useful in terms of salary ballast.
So just understand that moving Kyle Kuzma is probably not something that's high on the Lakers priority list right now, for one, because they really like him.
And the second reason because it's really hard to get anybody close to his production level or his his potential in return because of the salary that he's got.
Oh yeah, I mean, it just numbers went match up to Goto what? Back to what you're saying? I mean Jeannie Buss, the Lakers, you know, and the Lakers management you know they love who's yeah, who's dead, who's has done all the right things since showing up here in Los Angeles.
He sought the help of Kobe Bryant.
He's He's been like a sponge in terms of learning, finding the right people and learning from them.
We've seen what we've seen sky hooks that accrues a lot of vintage old Laker moves.
I mean, this guy is he's a good representation of L.
And I think that Jeanie Buss and Lakers management obviously have a lot of love for a cruise.
So I think, and I think everybody who's bagging on Cruise right now will be eating those words later in the season.
When it comes up big for us, it's a big time games.
So again, everybody know just relaxing Cruise.
Let's just keep going with this right for sure.
We've got here's one so up.
These go go by fast.
So I saw one that was asking about the Lakers rookie that they drafted.
I lost the name on it, asking why the Lakers rookie isn't playing and that's to win Horton Tucker.
Great. They grabbed him in the second round.
He was one of the youngest players in the draft.
That's why you don't see him playing.
He's super yelling.
He spent his entire offseason pretty much injured, had a stress reaction, his leg, his foot actually, and, uh, couldn't play in summer league.
So he's still getting his legs under him in the D League.
I wouldn't expect to see him any time soon.
I've been saying it all season long.
If you see him at all, that's just the cherry on top.
That's that's the bonus.
I don't think the Lakers are looking at him thinking, Hey, this is a guy that's gonna come in and help us this season.
I think you would see Zack Norvell.
I think you would see Devante k ****.
I think he would see those guys coast us onto Coop.
Oh, coming up from the South, a Lakers before you'd see tailing Horton Tucker just because of the young age and everything.
Now look, if he really lights it up in the D League, which he's done well, it's not completely impossible to see him.
But understand, I wouldn't be expecting him to come in and play the hero role.
And suddenly be this this amazing young player for the Lakers.
He's still a ways away from from being that.
So again, um, I wouldn't be beholding a breath waiting to see Taylor Horton Tucker on the Lakers.
Yeah, I'm with guys like that.
I mean, people have to understand that these are developing players, you know, They're not just, you know, game time ready or big Game ready.
These guys need to put in their reps.
They've got to get in there and they gotta adjust to the NBA timing.
I believe in terms of on the court and all that.
So I mean, you know, these guys have to spend time in the G League and stuff like that in order to get ready for the big dance.
Just like, uh, you know, I did when I went down to Ohio Valley wrestling before W W E.
It's like I needed to spend a good year, year and 1/2 there, and sometimes guys even spend more before I even showed up on Roz War.
Anything like that? Because, you know, once you get out there get on the big stage, it's sink or swim.
And you know, like if you go out there and you have a real bad outing, it hurt your confidence.
So you don't want that to happen with these guys, too? Because then there, they're done before they've even started.
So, you know, definitely have to get these guys time to develop.
Yeah, getting you gonna have time to get your legs under you.
Because, you know, we kind of saw it happen when Kwamie Brown, if you remember that long time ago when call me was drafted out of high school is a rookie.
And he like, he didn't have the life skills that he needed in order to be successful in the n b a, which you could expect him to.
He's 18 years old, s o.
He struggled just with that, just with adjusting to suddenly being in a very adult world.
Um, and not to mention playing, eh? NBA basketball with Michael Jordan and being expected to to thrive and to be this piece that was gonna push the wizards to a new level on all of that.
And he struggled, and it kind of messed up is his career because he was thrown into the deep end too early.
There is such a thing as get being given too much biting off more than you can chew.
And so you gotta be careful with these young players that you don't do that.
I think that's been been an issue.
Something to consider anyway, uh, getting into a few more of these.
Oh, a lot of questions on this Joseph Prints from Facebook mentioning that the three losses the Lakers had the Clippers, the Raptor and now the Mavericks all winning teams is that concerning to you the fact that the Lakers, if you look at their three losses, are against some of the better teams in the n b a and that they didn't get wins over those teams? Are you worried at all about that moving forward, Chris? Well, in today's case, not so much because, you know, based on everything we've been talking about it they would have cleaned up a few things tonight.
I think they definitely could have won this game.
I mean, again, if you just looked at that first quarter, I mean, everybody was looking real good.
LeBron was bouncing around all over the place.
I mean, we've got a great group of guys.
We got the best duo in N B.
A basketball, so I think it doesn't really alarming or anything like that. Yeah, Yeah.
These teams are gonna be a challenge, and they're gonna test us.
But I fully expect the Lakers to pull out these next few.
I mean, let's flip it around.
Like if those losses had come to I don't know, the Hawks and the Wizards like, wouldn't that be more concerning right? I mean, like, of course, they're if they're gonna have three losses on the books, of course you'd rather there to better teams, right? Or am I looking at that? Rome.
Well, I think some people would think that.
Okay, if they did lose one of those teams, maybe they were overlooking them.
Okay, we're playing down to their competition.
I mean, I'm still with you.
If we're gonna have losses, it be better if they're against winning teams and, you know, again in and none of these cases do I think the Lakers kind of one that could have beat the Raptors.
They weren't on that night.
And those guys just kind of rallied tonight.
You know that Babs did a hell of a job.
I mean, in the third quarter, they help the Lakers to the lowest scoring quarter.
They had all season, actually.
So that kind of tells you up, tells you something there, but I think they could have won.
This game is just, you know, it just wasn't there night tonight.
I mean, between coups, Miss shot, you know, offensive rebounds wasn't happening tonight.
I mean, look, as of right now, the Lakers still are there right now, tied for the best record in the league with the Milwaukee Bucks at 17 and three.
And they have the best record in the West by a decent amount.
I mean, the Denver Nuggets or second and their 13 and four, uh, obviously Lakers played, played a few more games there, but still, it's not like it's not like you need to just scrap everything or anything like that.
Like this team is doing very, very well.
You can't just assume they're going to win every single game because that's just not reality in the n B A.
I mean, winning 10 games in a row, is incredible that a seven game win streak before that.
So I think we need to give credit that they've won the games that they have and just understand that yet.
Look, there's gonna be some off nights, and I think this was one of them.
Well, I will say this, though.
So we've got, um, Denver on Tuesday.
Correct? So if the Lakers going to Denver and they lose that game, I think we can revisit this conversation about a being a little concerned.
They've lost against two good teams despite having that great stretch before that.
So I think this is a conversation will revisit if they were to lose that game.
Yeah, that's that's a great qualifier there.
So let's say if things play out exactly like this game did, where we're seeing just a lot of missed rotations on defense, open threes, being reined in by the Denver Nuggets, then, yeah, then we can have that conversation about Okay, How do they really match up with some of these better teams? Are they just feet? Were they just feasting on Cem, Cem, terrible opponents and things like that early on in the season? Are they not making adjustments.
Those are all things that will look at it again.
For the moment, this is just one game in what's been a really good season.
But if this becomes a recurring theme where they continue to struggle with what they struggled with today, and that's again the defense rotations giving up too many open three pointers, being able to convert shots on their own end if they struggle with those sorts of things, then yes, eventually the conversation is going to change.
I'm just not ready to go there quite yet.
Yeah, that'd be either and, uh, you know, again like we go in the Denver and we pull up a doubt over there, Then we can start looking at this like, Hey, you know, maybe we did beat some crappy teams and now we're facing some better teams.
I mean, the fact of the matter is this trouble.
I mean, like we said before, December is gonna be a very revealing month in terms of where the Lakers are, and this is just part of the process now, like we went into this game today, we're hoping for a win.
We didn't get it.
We lost to a good Mavericks team that's led by this phenomenal kid who we've never even seen.
Something like this place is 19 years old, 20 years old.
So, yeah, 20 I believe.
So I think we need to, you know, take a look at each game and see exactly how it unfolds going into Tuesday and beyond.
And again, we're going to see, as the weeks progress here going into Christmas just exactly what we had.
And then even if we don't win these games, I mean, we'll see what exactly it is that we need, where our flaws where our deficiencies and, uh, you know.
So either way, this is a necessary thing for us unnecessary, You know, upcoming games for us to go through in order to see where we're at at this point, right? Yeah, for sure.
Um, the it's part of the process.
I don't want to trust the process.
That's a 76 years, but it is part of the process.
And some people are jumping on me on me here, saying, Trevor, we beat the Mavs before.
Come on, all this kind of stuff like I know, I know, but every games a little bit different.
And this one was, by the way.
I know Lakers fans right now aren't happy, and we just saw how good Luca Don Chick is, and we've seen it all season.
He's a tremendous player.
As bad as Laker fans feel after one game.
Imagine how bad the Phoenix Suns and Sacramento Kings fans have to feel every game they watch.
Luca don sectors absolutely go nuts.
When they passed on him in the draft for no reason, they could have had him and they passed on him.
Mind boggling mind.
But why they would pass on him? Yeah, he's He's amazing, you know, to see a kid with that kind of poise go out there.
I mean, I started my career 19 so I can kind of relate when I see these guys, like when I see Luka going out there and competing against LeBron, I mean I can I can relate to how we feel, because I remember what it was for me personally in the wrestling world, coming in as a 19 year old and competing against the guys I grew up watching, and it's, you know, it's an amazing feeling and to see him have the poise and do the things that he's doing really says a lot about him.
I mean, he's gonna be something special for a long time.
Yeah, he's absolutely impressive the way that he immediately again, it's It's not just the talent.
It's not just his ability to shoot or his ability to pass or anything.
It's the way he reads the floor that's so impressive.
And again we talked about how the Mavs do a great job of recognizing exactly where the defense over rotates or over helps or whatever, and and then hitting the open man and finding the ball into the right spot.
And I don't think is incredibly good at that.
He not only reads the play very, very well, but he reacts in an instant.
I mean, he is is lightning quick in terms of knowing where the ball needs to go, knowing where the past needs to be.
And that's a credit to him and excited for Mavs fans to get to watch this guy case.
He is, uh, he really is something.
Um, let's dive into a few more of these questions before we call it a night or an afternoon I suppose, which is weird.
It is, uh, here it is.
Elmo from YouTube.
Says Trump didn't wear his l a Bron shirt after last game.
And we lose this game today.
He wears Where's it guaranteed win.
Was that it? That was the problem, Chris.
I was wearing the wrong shirt.
I love how bands always kind of clean to these little kind of superstitions air and stuff like that in order when it comes to wins and losses by, Maybe he's right.
If you need to just wear that LeBron shirt and he's saying that LeBron should guarantee as a victory on Tuesday, right? Yeah.
Okay, then I'm all for that. Yeah.
Hey, that I hope this does mean that the wind is coming up, you know? Look, unlike Michael Scott, I'm not superstitious, but I'm a little bit seditious, that's for sure.
So if this shirt is going to bring a win, I'll wear it every single time.
But yeah, that's funny that I didn't wear this shirt and then they lose.
So put it on me.
That's my forget about what I said about the defense.
Forget about what I said.
about the poor shooting.
Forget all the trash talk on Kyle Kuzma and all that.
This one's on me, guys. I'm sorry.
Yeah, it is on your Trevor, I I go back to our last show.
Are you saying that we needed a loss in orderto reset the team, so I don't know.
I think this this one is on you.
You're gonna have to take the heat on this.
As we were talking about that during the last show, I was thinking, Oh, God, I hope they win the next game.
Otherwise this is gonna come back to haunt me.
Don't forget. I know I didn't forget.
Um, Johnny Kilroy from YouTube asks why didn't we signed D'Angelo? Russell? So the story behind that is that D'Angelo Russell didn't wanna wait.
The Lakers were they potentially could have signed him.
And what I've heard is that and this is not what I want.
To throw this out there is like a source rumor or anything like that.
This is just something I've heard through the g****vine was that D'Angelo really was interested in coming back to the Lakers.
But when the warriors made it known that they wanted him and they wanted to give him the max money that they gave him on knowing that he was gonna have to wait for the Lakers for quite to make his decision.
He wasn't gonna wait on that.
So he took the max money that was there.
And that was the reason why.
And the reason why I didn't go to Minnesota.
Part of that was weather related.
Apparently so. Yeah.
Look, the Lakers were in the mix for D'Angelo.
I think that had he not signed with the lake, and this is just my sense of it.
Had he not signed with the Warriors and the Lakers missed on Kawai, they probably would have pivoted to Russell rather than went straight to Danny Green and DeMarcus Cousins and Quinn Cook and all those guys that they signed.
They probably would've pivoted to Russell.
But this is just how things played out.
Russell didn't want to wait for quite to make his decision so and understandable when somebody's offering you Whatever you got was a 27 million or something.
It's pretty hard to say No, I'm just gonna take a few days and and wait on that that's that's a lot of money to turn down.
Yeah, and I understand both of those, actually, because you said Minnesota was weather related.
Correct? Yeah. Yeah.
He was saying, I guess that was part of the decision making.
At least that's something that I've that I've seen out there.
After spending three years in Toronto myself, I can definitely say that the weather is no picnic up there, so I can understand that.
And I can definitely understand, You know, you had that deal on the table.
He's gotta take it.
I'm not sure I'm disappointed that we didn't get D'Angelo.
Russell, what do you Are you disappointed? You know what? In the moment, I kind of wondered if, like if Russell blew up like you did with the Nets, then don't you want the top end talent over having this this solid rotation built out around like you're Danny Greene's and your Quinn Cook's And and I like Danny Green a lot.
But the other pieces, you know that they were able to sign with that money.
I kind of wondered if that would come back to haunt them.
But based on the way this season, is played out, I'd say the Lakers probably ended up on the better end of it.
Of course, it's hard to really Judge D'Angelo Russell, with the Warriors playing so poorly in their whole roster pretty much falling apart.
But I kind of struggled to see exactly how he would fit in on this team with LeBron James handling the ball so much and Russell needing the ball in his hands and needing to run, pick and roll in order to make it all work.
Oh, yeah, and he's a volume shooter.
I mean, granted, we do need some more shooting at certain points, but I just I don't see what else D'Angelo Russell is necessarily bringing to the team.
I mean, I guess he could be our are what? He's a point guard, you know? Like, is he gonna run the second offense? Is he going to play off Balto LeBron in the in the first quarter? I mean, where exactly are we gonna put him that he's going to be useful? Yeah, I think that's probably what they would have had to do with them.
I mean, run him off ball, Whatever.
LeBron's on the floor and then when LeBron's not, you can run him as the leader of the second unit out there.
Kind of like a Rondo S Karol what he's doing right now.
But do you want to pay 27 million or whatever I think is 28 million wishes Max for that, I don't know, but and then we had the choice between one more thing.
If we had the choice between running Danny Green or D'Angelo Russell, I rather have Danny Green out there just based on his defense.
Yeah, that's a great point when you've got a team built around LeBron and D D.
You want the better perimeter defender? And that is no question that standing.
He had a bad game today, but that's definitely Danny Green.
Chris Masters and Trevor.
What do you think about getting another shooter slash sniper and J.
Red**** from New Orleans to our bench? So let's not necessarily just J J.
If the Lakers were tear to target anybody, whether it's the bio market or it's in trade discussions later on eyes, the trade deadline in February gets closer.
Would would shooting be your priority, or would you be looking for something else.
Um, I think it's tough because that every game that we've been watching, we have seen a deficiency in terms of three point shooting compared to almost every team.
And, you know, granted, we get a lot of pain points and we kind of tend to eat guys up in the paint, which, by the way, props to a D.
At least he was getting much closer into the basket tonight, which was great.
Yes. Yeah, we were talking about that during the game.
He made that adjustment. We didn't see.
We saw a few, but we didn't see as many of those fall away jumpers tonight.
And I'm very thankful for that.
Yeah, yeah, but to go back to our original topic, I would like to see some more three point snipers on our team just so we can have that.
We can kind of fill up that part of the statute a little more in terms of not seeing our opposition, you know, double us in three point shots because you know, the math.
That is difficult.
You know, if we're coming down court and we're getting paint points and they're coming back on the other side and we're giving a grease.
I mean, it doesn't take a rocket scientist do that map, so you know, that could be a problem.
But then, you know, it would be either a great shooter or again.
Why, No, we do this every show.
It would be an Andre Iguodala defender.
And I would if you told me you could have either a really good perimeter shooter or you can have under Iguodala right now.
I'd say, Andre Iguodala, I can.
And I think there's an argument to be made for the shooter.
But I just feel like right now that's the That's the bigger need.
Is that other wing Cliff like for nights like tonight? If Kyle Kuzma doesn't have it, there's nobody else to turn to their You can't just go throw Jared Dudley and expect them to produce.
So I think you need like an Iguodala or somebody like that.
And here comes all the free Aggie free Yet Let me let me see when we flip back over your way locked up the chat again.
But yes, I'm seeing.
Here we go some We need a G ton of exclamation points.
All of that kind of stuff? Absolutely So let's talk about this road trip ahead.
There was a comment from Daniel Middleton from Facebook, who said We need to win at least two out of the next three games on the road here if the Lakers went two and three on the road trip.
Chris, are you happy with that? And we're the team has to break it down again.
We're talking about the Denver Nuggets, then back to back against the Utah Jazz and then heading up to Portland or you have you with two for three.
If they if they pull that off.
Uh, yeah, absolutely.
Because again, this is a developing team.
I mean, I know we've started out really strong with this first part in season, but let's not forget the fact that during the summer I mean, there was only two guys who were actually on this team before was actually the roster was filled out.
So I mean, it takes time for these teams to really get to know each other and gel.
And I think that, you know, again to go back to our December narrative.
I mean, this December is gonna be very telling.
But I think that if they were to come out of this to win two games out of three, that's definitely a good start.
All of this in terms of, you know, where our plane, Yeah, 100 100% agree I'd be.
I'd be ecstatic with two for three, given the teams that they're playing and the fact that they're on the road and the fact that there's a back to back door and there.
There are a lot of factors at play here, and when you add all that up to for three, I'd be.
I'd be thrilled if they could pull that off against teams, to the quality of Denver and in Utah and now a a Portland team that is playing better and better.
So if you pull it off great, let's focus in a little bit on this next upcoming game here with the Denver Nuggets.
What needs to happen for them to win that one? And is there anyone in particular you're really worried about playing against with the Nuggets? Well, I haven't gone to see much of the Denver not gets.
Hopefully you have this season, but I know Jamal Berry at Joker are pretty **** formidable as Faras competition.
So I'm just hoping that Jamal Marie doesn't have one of those games where he's torching the Lakers and getting the crowd all fired up like he does, because he can almost be a little, you know, he's got a little chip on his shoulder, Jamal Murray.
And every time we play him, he seems, Do I get under the nerves of some of our players? And, you know, Joker is one of the best big men in the league, although from what I've heard, actually, this season, he hasn't been in shape or he's playing himself back in the shape, you know? You know, maybe we won't see too much of a Maybe it'll be a little too exhausted.
Who knows? Yeah.
I mean, you're right there and that Jamal Murray always seems to have a little extra bounce in his step.
When he's playing the Lakers, she seems to enjoy going against them.
But yeah, nickel.
Yokich, he's not in the best of shape.
I mean, you can tell that just just looking at him.
But lost last night, actually.
Yeah, last night they lost to the second Kings 100 to 97.
They lost. And so Justin's.
We're expecting the Lakers to be fired up and ready to get out there and play and kind of right these wrongs.
The Denver Nuggets were to be locked in a CZ.
Not only are they playing the Lakers, not only is this gonna be a huge game for them, lot of eyeballs on it.
All of those factors of Western Conference opponent the team they see as their biggest rival, like most teams in the West do.
But they are also coming off of a loss, and they're going to be fired up because of that.
So this is a game where I'm expecting Denver to be extremely locked in, and I expect the Lakers to match that, and we'll see if they can.
It's gonna be a challenge, but I think that's going to be key because the Denver Nuggets are gonna throw everything they can to the Lakers.
Yeah, and it's like you always say, Trevor, you know, all these teams get fired up to play the Lakers now.
The extra incentive, you know, when they come out of a loss in the previous game and This goes for most teams, particularly here when you're talking about Denver losing Sacramento.
Yeah, it's going to give them that extra bit of motivation wanted bounce back from their loss, just like we did.
So I mean, we're going to see a real competitive game Tuesday, and I'm sure Denver is going to really bring it.
And I'm just hoping that, you know, the Lakers can bring it.
But, I mean, this is gonna again.
It's gonna be a tough game, because again, they're going into Denver's are hard place to play.
The elevation is high.
It's hard to breathe.
So I I would fully expect come Tuesday.
We're gonna be watching, possibly a slow start by the Lakers, and hopefully they'll just pick it up.
Is the game goes on? But hopefully I'm wrong, baby.
Hopefully they'll start off.
Get going will be hot.
But I'm kind of every great might be a slow start.
So the this game against the Mavericks, the Lakers took on the best offensive team in the league, according to offensive rating against the Denver Nuggets.
You're taking on the best defensive team in the league.
They actually lead the league in defensive rating.
At this moment, they're just a hair better than the Toronto Raptors, so their offense is only 18th in the n B A.
So it's their defense has been really been been carrying them.
And here's the thing I'm gonna be looking for in this game, and it's look Jamal Murray is going to do is think Yokich is going to do his thing.
The question is, can you stop the other guys from going crazy like Jamal Murray? I expected him for him to come out firing.
Yo, *****, I think he only put up Ah, 10 boards, six assists, but only seven points in the last game against the King's.
I'm expecting a better performance out of him.
The question is, can you stop like a Will Barton or Gary Harris or Paul Millsap? Those guys, because what Denver's gonna need in order to win is they're gonna need not just good defense and not just their stars playing well.
They're gonna need 1/3 player to step up.
So can the Lakers stop 1/3 player from stepping up on Denver while finding 1/3 player to step up on their own team? Are we going to see a good Danny Green game or a good Dwight Howard game or somebody along those lines.
Maybe KCP hit some big shots.
They need 1/3 player to step up very badly in this one against the Nuggets while playing good enough defense to shut down the Denver attack.
Let's just say it right now, Trump.
This next game is gonna be a big bounce back game for Cruz.
I want everybody to watch.
He's going for double figures.
He locked it in.
It's the master lock Has locked it in. Cal.
Kuzma is gonna have a bounce back game against the Denver Nuggets.
I really need him.
We need him and he's gonna come through.
Absolutely, uh, speaking.
What Share, Tony A from YouTube.
If the Lakers win, it gets the Nuggets, then no need to panic.
If not, then? Well, you know, skeptical face emoji at little else to call that.
So do you agree with that? Like if the Lakers beat the Nuggets, Does that kind of a race this loss today? Uh, to me, it'll just It will be a good win, but to me, it should feel like almost like it's just life going back to normal.
We're used to all these winds, and if they beat **** birds like okay, we're back on track.
But, I mean, just like to go back to what you were saying just a minute.
I mean, if they can come out, they could come out of this road trip three for three.
That would be awesome.
Two or three would be great.
But one for three is the only thing I'm worried about.
Personally, I don't want to see that.
I mean, as scary as it sounds, the floor for this is over three, right? I mean, that's that's not outside the realm of possibility.
I tend to think that they'll finish either one for three or two for three.
I think that's that's probably the most likely outcomes.
And hopefully it's two for 33 for three, obviously would be incredible.
But I think it's somewhat unlikely and over three is also possible.
But I'm hoping that's unlikely and that this game is just a bump in the road today and that the Lakers will will bounce back against the Denver Nuggets.
Yep, all right, guys, Let's, um, let's wrap things up here.
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Cris Final thoughts Before we get out here.
Uh, you know, let's everybody have a great Sunday evening and let's just we got some big games games coming up, so let's root for that 33 for three.
But let's hope for that, too, For three.
All right, all right, let's get it.
Hopefully, Lakers can get it done.
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