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I'd highly consider going wide receiver at the end of the first round.
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I would definitely go wide receiver at some point.
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I like so first overall, If we're like that Top 10 pick, I definitely want alignment.
00:00:12
Andrew Thomas was my sweetheart bottom, but Washington's gonna get him for sure.
00:00:17
Um, I would say I put Austin Jackson in my, um, little mock draft or mock off season that I put together, and I'm not 110% sold on him.
00:00:28
It's just basically because he's an offensive lineman in the Jets.
00:00:30
Need offense line help? As much possible? I actually, I don't know if the Jets do You think there's a trade potential with Trent Williams at all? Uh, that's, uh, that's a real tough one.
00:00:44
I have a tough time seeing it.
00:00:46
Yeah, and I don't know if I'm gonna want to give up the draft capital it would take to get him, especially at his age.
00:00:52
That's not to say that he's not a good offensive line, obviously, is very good, but he's gonna be a year removed from playing and another year older.
00:01:00
I feel like I'd rather at that point take the Bentley. I said.
00:01:04
Best offensive lineman available and then forget about that position for 10 years.
00:01:08
Like what they did with Nick Mangold and D'Brickashaw Ferguson.
00:01:10
Yeah, that's kind of where I fall.
00:01:12
I was watching some highlights, so I'm not a big Jerry Judy fan like I get why people are high on him.
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I really like CD lamb.
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I think CD Lamb is really good.
00:01:21
The wide receiver from Oklahoma watching his stuff.
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I was like, Man, you know, I would be okay if the Jets took him in the top 10.
00:01:27
But I wanted lineman and then for the second part, If you want Thea, if you're looking mid to late twenties, I don't know if I roll the dice on, uh, the center from Wisconsin being there in the third.
00:01:39
I might take him in or not.
00:01:40
Sorry, not the third.
00:01:41
At the beginning of the second, I might take him at that first round pick just to solidify it, because if we're going into the draft and that's our only need, not our only need but are only like the biggest need.
00:01:52
I guess it's not even just the biggest need.
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It's the you know, we went in from the off season.
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Unless they're okay with, like, Harrison, maybe doing one more year at center, and they're like, OK, let's not push the draft pick.
00:02:02
If you false was in the second round, let's take him.
00:02:06
I don't know I would I would be very hesitant toe not take him.
00:02:10
I honestly, I wouldn't be mad at if they went to a two offensive lineman in the first round, that I'd be all for it.
00:02:16
I think that outside of the quarterback position offensive line is like right up there in terms of importance to a football team for May.
00:02:24
I got a few people in the chat.
00:02:25
It'll take some chat questions before we jump on two phone calls.
00:02:29
But it looks like S O Douglas lady on Belle will be traded this offseason.
00:02:34
Do you believe that? I don't think so.
00:02:39
Um, the reason why I was hesitant is because in Adam gazes offense, it just doesn't seem like he's utilizing him right.
00:02:47
But I just don't think that they're gonna pay him that money and then, like, be so quick to flip, maybe after another year, if they go through and he's still putting up the same kind of production in 2020.
00:02:58
Maybe they look to move him after that, but I'd be pretty surprised if they flip the map there just one year.
00:03:03
Yeah, I would.
00:03:04
I would be upset to take away a weapon from Donald right now, especially someone that could be as good as Bell with a good offensive line.
00:03:12
If we could revamp this offensive line, we might get an entirely new bell next season.
00:03:16
Now the the issue that I see in the last two or three games, it actually looks like they've been using Powell Maur in the run game, and he's been slightly more effective with a bad offensive line.
00:03:27
You almost want the running back that's gonna hit the whole really fast, as opposed to Belle. It's a little more patient.
00:03:32
And while I think Bell's play style, you know, can be awesome, it's just not necessarily working with what the Jets have to work with right now.
00:03:41
Yeah, I definitely agree with that and I'm one of the biggest block pal fans, so you don't gotta sell him to me.
00:03:46
I think he's great and pass protection.
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I think you know he could catch the ball out of the backfield, do a little bit of everything.
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And for some reason the Jets, like, refused to use time.
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Montgomery, I'm not quite sure why, but I liked that they used block Powell.
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He was really effective on that one driver.
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I think it was in the second quarter.
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He had, like, a 17 yard run, uh, and almost scored.
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But he kind of fell.
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And, uh, I really liked, you know, to me I would use to running backs on the field the same time from certain packages.
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The Jets, I feel like rarely have done that this year with the three running backs.
00:04:17
They have just put a bell in the slot and have either Montgomery or power in the back.
00:04:22
Yeah, no, I would have done way more, you know, multiple running back sets.
00:04:26
I think we're seeing more tight end sets, which is I mean, I don't know.
00:04:29
Brown was on our team.
00:04:30
Who is this guy? This guy scores a touchdown.
00:04:32
Griffin looks real good.
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I was He's very been a very good pleasant surprise for me because, you know as ah, you know, Texan coming over here, he had I think it was a D u I charge a great we're getting some other scrub.
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Not gonna be reliable.
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He's been reliable that we've seen so far.
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And I think if we get, um, I think the Raiders a team one of my buddies is a big radiation.
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He's like, Yeah, Tyler Eifert.
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Any tight end that they're playing, they're going to do well.
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So look for Griffin this week.
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You know what he says is true that the Raiders are terrible against the tight end.
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I would like to see some continued success with Griffin.
00:05:09
That's good insider info.
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Might have to use that.
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My draft things this week.
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He did see, it's not that it If you want to be real clever, you do it on Fanduel.
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Not that I'm associate handle, but I know a guy that knows a guy that knows a guy.
00:05:21
Okay, but I have a drafting studio.
00:05:24
I haven't I should do, like, more like, drafting stuff, but I I honestly haven't won anything.
00:05:27
This entire season's been terrible.
00:05:29
Yeah, I've only had one good week, so I'm right there with you.
00:05:32
I'm gonna grab a beer real quick, then we'll take some phone calls.
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Okay, I'm in.
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This is fun.
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I read up the commons a little bit.
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Let's get the phone number on the screen.
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Boom.
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Phone lines are open.
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People.
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We got half tax sports in the building.
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They've been, uh, sure, let's marry.
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Oh, just like Bill stands.
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I am a closet like fan of the Bills right now.
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Really, what they're doing is I shouldn't say that because it's, you know, inside the division.
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But I like the guy that gets beaten down.
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It's kind of understandable in Florida.
00:06:31
Chris from Florida.
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What's up? Welcome to the ****pit.
00:06:34
Try talking a little bit, but I'm not sure if O'Leary can hear.
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You haven't tested this out yet.
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Let's go.
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J D Just just get two wins in a row, baby, I can hear you here. Okay? I'm trying.
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I gotta play with the volume enough.
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So that way, his voice comes through and hits the microphone.
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But like I know my man.
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Do you like it? 24 7 I'm not wearing Okay, baby.
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I love it.
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Dude, what's on your mind? Talk to us.
00:07:07
All right. So I'm gonna straight out. They matter.
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Larry, I'm already in the driver.
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I'm a big fan and I love your commentary.
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And I love how you ****yze.
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The team is friendly after every I love your work.
00:07:18
I'm a huge fan.
00:07:19
Thank you so much for representing the jet men.
00:07:22
Now let's get you to first off, I think I think both the all his ideas on the drafting Oh, I'm witches have to disagree with that.
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I put $10 on you.
00:07:34
Get up.
00:07:35
I said 10 dollars that were in the keys to more out of this.
00:07:37
The big reason why Jamal Adams is a huge representative of leadership and for this team to be going to another rebuilt and knowing that we're going to be bringing in some fresh details the blood mine, we need someone who's gonna keep the high to keep the control.
00:07:54
And I think Tamal Adam is the guy for that.
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You don't really see a lot of leadership out of anybody else at least, in my opinion, any other defensive player.
00:08:03
So it's really hard to believe that Jamal would.
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I mean, you got a day.
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Mostly, I know that, but with a young perspective, mine and the energy has thinking thinking for sure staying thing.
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You know, that's that's my perspective on that.
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Uh, with the draft, I hope we go ahead and first thing we got to get in office, the blind player and he's available.
00:08:26
If anything, I really wanted center or somebody to cover **** Donald left side.
00:08:32
But after that, start picking up more office alignment, people, corners, cornerbacks or edge rushers.
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And then around maybe the third or fourth drafted off some wide receivers.
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That's my D point on the whole draft thing right there.
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What about? So you just said Jamal Adams is a great leader and I look, I really do believe that I just have an issue with the way he handled the trade deadline, and I'll be honest.
00:08:57
Since the trade deadline, I really haven't worn my Jamal Adam's jersey, and it's like I've been pretty heated.
00:09:03
I've tried to keep my cool with it, but like I don't think this guy wants to be here a long term, and that's my biggest like beef with it.
00:09:10
Like I think he's trying to develop a plan for him to get out and go to Dallas after this contract, and that is disingenuous for me.
00:09:17
You know, all this rah rah stuff is just to get the fans on his side.
00:09:20
And I'm hoping that's not the case.
00:09:21
I'm hoping that he actually wants to stay here long term.
00:09:24
Because the guy as much as we've seen the last three weeks, the guy has been an absolute freak for us.
00:09:29
Yeah, absolutely.
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And the thing that I have you, if you like Joe Douglas would be almost silly not to take phone calls him And I don't think he was, like shopping him, like saying, Yeah, he's you know, what would you give me for the blinds? I think it was more of like guys were calling him like, Hey, is this guy available? And if someone offered you Ah, first in two seconds, I don't see how you can't pull the trigger on.
00:09:53
Yeah. Oh, I completely agree.
00:09:55
Chris, thank you so much for calling in.
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I'm going to eject you from the ****pit, so get more people, okay? It's gotta go.
00:10:06
I gotta do the time.
00:10:07
I'm not I'm not good with time guys.
00:10:09
Let's try to keep it to questions.
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That way, O'Leary and I can bounce back and forth.
00:10:12
I know you usually do the, uh, hold on the phone for a while, but try something new.
00:10:18
Well, see, I might change that as we get part of the way through.
00:10:21
Okay.
00:10:23
Who are you? Who's on the line from? Hello? Welcome to the ****pit.
00:10:31
What's up, brother? How's it go and not where you come from? It's been great here.
00:10:39
Wow, that green.
00:10:40
What's up, dude? Oh, I love O'Leary's content.
00:10:44
Um, businesses driver for a while.
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Thank you.
00:10:50
What do you think about getting a quick Williams? I heard someone offer ah King's ransom form, and he's not producing that.
00:10:57
As O'Leary said in one of the videos, You got third rounders and sixth rounders performing better than him.
00:11:06
I'll let Matt take it away first.
00:11:08
Yeah, I I don't know.
00:11:09
Listen, he hasn't performed well at all so far this year.
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I think he only has one and 1/2 sacks.
00:11:15
He's been pretty underwhelming for me, but I'm not ready to give up on him yet.
00:11:20
I've just Yes, I've been cool of fall, expected more from someone who's taken third overall, but I think it really depends on what he does.
00:11:28
The rest of this year.
00:11:29
I'll give him another year to develop you Still young.
00:11:32
It's just his rookie year.
00:11:34
If we get to next year and it's the same thing, then maybe I'm looking to move him.
00:11:41
But for right now, I think he's fine for you know what the Jets are using them for, which is basically a rotational piece.
00:11:49
Yeah, I think so.
00:11:50
I'd have to look up what the actual cap hits would be, because with that first round contract, I'd kind of be like the Josh Rosen thing, where the Jets would eat a lot of that contract and whoever would get him on the cheap or like out for whatever they trade us.
00:12:03
They give us a first round pick.
00:12:04
At least I think, um, they would have him significantly cheaper, and I sauce that.
00:12:09
I'm gonna try and find it real quick while I have you guys on here.
00:12:13
But it was something like the amount, like through a certain amount of games.
00:12:17
This is how many sacks like J.
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J.
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Watt had and collides Campbell, all these other guys, and it really wasn't too far off from quarterback pressure, quarterback hit tackles and *** perspective.
00:12:29
It's actually Quinn is actually doing all right.
00:12:32
I'm kicking myself for not actually saving this as a screenshot, but, um yeah, Look, I would I would say I would consider trading Quinn Williams if we were to get, like, a first round pick if it was the first and third.
00:12:47
Sorry, Quentin, you're out the door like I I'm okay with what we have right now.
00:12:51
Like I would have taken it depending on captain.
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But next upcoming are usually catch rate.
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For if we had a kid drafted by taking, we need this offensive live video ad rusher.
00:13:05
I think we have What? Good, Too good quarters? Well, yeah, we have a lot of hold.
00:13:11
We really d'oh! I mean, you're talking.
00:13:13
Well, let's let's jump into bless Austin cause I've been wanting to talk about this guy and I really think he has the potential to be starting corner.
00:13:23
I'm hesitant to say number one corner because I don't trust his health.
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But the guy's got the range and he's got moves.
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He's got the feel of a corner.
00:13:31
He looks more fluid out there.
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Let me know what you think.
00:13:34
That they agreed that after calling, and I'm kicking out a ****pit.
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I really liked how he's played.
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The last thing I think is the teams that they're playing.
00:13:44
What is he here? I want to see a little bit more of him down the stretch.
00:13:47
I don't want to see anymore Nate Harrison.
00:13:49
I don't want to really see any more doubt.
00:13:50
Roberts or Tremaine Johnson.
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Give me more.
00:13:53
Let give me Maura of bless Austin, and let's see what we have here.
00:13:56
To me, the injury thing is my biggest concern.
00:13:59
Like what? It is going to understand the field.
00:14:01
I think he's only played five games over the last two years, so that is definitely something of concern for May.
00:14:07
So we'll see that I completely agree.
00:14:09
Mario from hashtag Sports brother.
00:14:10
What is up, dude Going on, fellas? Heck of a job going on tonight.
00:14:15
How do you know what we are? Fantastic.
00:14:19
We're not as good as your god**** bills.
00:14:20
Unfortunately, guys, I I have to say at this particular point in time, I love my Sam Darnold.
00:14:28
But, man, Josh Allen bawling out up there in Buffalo, he is.
00:14:33
But the thing that was concerning me that's going to concern you guys because concerned the Baltimore Ravens.
00:14:41
When it happens, it's gonna concern the Cleveland Browns.
00:14:44
My question for you guys.
00:14:45
This you guys are 61 million under the cat next year.
00:14:49
You guys gotta figure out down the line because the builder thing in this, too, we want to sign all these guys.
00:14:53
However, some of these contracts are gonna bleed into Donald, maybe e.
00:14:58
A lot of guys are saying that Adam has gone.
00:14:59
However he's re signed.
00:15:01
You got mostly enough chunk a chunk of change there.
00:15:04
What? How do you think like signing these guys would affect? You know the contractor, you're gonna have to eventually get Donald.
00:15:12
At some point, we'll take this one over because the Jets, since I want to say it's 2010 tonight, I got to start saving these stats on these sorts of things.
00:15:21
The Jets don't have a first round pick on this team.
00:15:23
The last first round pick we have are the oldest.
00:15:26
First trumpet we have is Jamal Adam.
00:15:28
So if Mom's traded, if he's held on to whatever it is, it's really just him and Sam.
00:15:34
Plus mostly, those would be the three contracts I'd look at cause look, uh, Tremaine Johnson.
00:15:41
Oh, sorry.
00:15:43
Uh, Jermaine Johnson gonna be gone.
00:15:46
Quinn Lane is not a huge cap.
00:15:48
It Avery Williamson.
00:15:50
I wanna hold on to him.
00:15:51
I think he's worth the $6.
00:15:52
5 million cap it for next year.
00:15:53
I think he's I actually think it's 7.
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5 million against the cap, but we'd save 6.5.
00:16:00
That sounds right.
00:16:01
I would I would think we'll be all right with Sam.
00:16:04
My issue is we're gonna wind up paying a ton of money for potentially not getting a lot on his rookie contract.
00:16:10
Like you look at Patrick Holmes.
00:16:11
You look at your challenge.
00:16:13
You look at Lamar Jackson.
00:16:14
These guys are, like, taking off in their rookie contracts, and their teams are benefiting greatly because this was the year that that should have happened.
00:16:21
We haven't easier strength of schedule.
00:16:23
Sam Darnold has not, you know, have the season.
00:16:25
We want him to have the mono really set us back all the injuries.
00:16:29
Mary, I don't know if you were still in the chat. We're talking.
00:16:31
The jets have the most amount of money on I R of any team in the NFL.
00:16:36
It's like something like $50 million.
00:16:38
Oh, I believe it. I believe it.
00:16:40
No question.
00:16:41
I believe that, Uh, but the one thing that I want to get to you guys and I don't have to do this over for the building stuff these guys are always about connections in the NFL is the one thing I have noticed All the places that gays and Williams have been, I would look there first for guys they may want to pick up in free agency, even if it's on the other side of the ball.
00:16:58
You talk about gays, heats time, identify some time in Miami.
00:17:01
A lot of those guys that filtered out, you mean? I mean, Miami took over and then I start getting rid of Guy so gays may May want to get those guys that he's familiar with into his system.
00:17:11
Even guys on the other side of the ball.
00:17:12
You want to talk about a guy like Robie or Harris when he was in Denver, as corners that are gonna be up for free agency this offseason.
00:17:20
Those guys that you may want to bring into the fold and if you sign a Harris saying a Roby.
00:17:26
Maybe that entices Adams stays a listen, they're helping out.
00:17:29
In my defense, I don't have to do it all myself because you got a really got.
00:17:33
You gonna let this kid know that he's gonna get some help at some point or he is gonna be gone? The interesting thing for me, I think is I don't know if Adam's I don't know what happens does this offseason.
00:17:42
This would be the third year this is it.
00:17:44
We're in the third year of his rookie deal, so he's allowed to re negotiate his contract after this season, if you want, so we could see a holdout come August.
00:17:51
And that's tough for me because we have the two more years of him under the rookie contract.
00:17:57
We can franchise him if we so choose after that, I don't think it's gonna get dragged out that far.
00:18:01
That's why I think the Jets are going to trade him this year.
00:18:03
I think, you know, accelerate the offensive line, rebuild and just try to, you know, just do that.
00:18:10
Accelerate the offensive line, not worry about the 90 $100 million contract, whatever it is, I think, Sam, I'm sure Josh and all those guys, if they wanted being, you know, the second contract kind of guys, they're gonna get close to 200 million.
00:18:22
It's gonna be, you know, Patrick Mahomes resetting the entire quarterback market, of course, to be anything it could be.
00:18:29
Absolutely.
00:18:30
Think I know that.
00:18:31
So I'll inject myself, right.
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Uh, awesome.
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Good stuff.
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Married.
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Thank you so much for calling in.
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That is my brother over at hashtag Sports.
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I had all these little like displays.
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I think I can add.
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I love it.
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It's fantastic.
00:18:51
The chicken took me a while to make.
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I have this.
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You don't have a display where I think I have both our names.
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I could put actually under our little Bacchus the good that I should have done earlier.
00:19:01
I didn't do it.
00:19:04
Um, So one of the things Mario brought up was contract.
00:19:09
How much do you think Jamal? Adam's fetches.
00:19:14
He's going to get paid handsomely.
00:19:16
And and that's the thing for me.
00:19:17
I don't know if I want Oh, invest that much money into the strong safety position.
00:19:21
If you play like you did the last two weeks then? Yeah, maybe it Maybe I will, but it could be a lot of money.
00:19:26
I completely agree.
00:19:28
Who the hell's calm, Vinnie, then? What's up, brother? Welcome to the ****pit.
00:19:34
You know what? How do you feel about the life after last Sunday after, like yesterday? Yep.
00:19:42
I would say I am happy with how the team looked.
00:19:48
I'm not I'm not, you know, you know, totally onboard the tank trained tank for traffic.
00:19:52
I'm happy if it happens, but I'm not, you know, beat up.
00:19:56
About what? About you.
00:19:58
You talk to us.
00:19:59
What are you your kind in that same boat? Well, well, I found the old fight from 1964.
00:20:17
I'll be honest, I'm a terrible jet ski.
00:20:18
And I had no idea we had a fight song.
00:20:20
If it did, I That's news to me.
00:20:24
But, hey, I got riddle for you, all right? With the last time that just had four consecutive games with an opening drive touchdown.
00:20:31
Um, I'm not saying never. I agree.
00:20:34
Never one.
00:20:36
But let the 1972 with Joe Name is Don Maynard, Rich Castor and Weeb Ewbank.
00:20:44
All right.
00:20:45
I would never have gotten that be there and get here? Nothing.
00:20:48
When was the last time I just had this many facts in three consecutive games? Mmm.
00:20:54
I wouldn't know.
00:20:55
We haven't really had a good sack team since 10,006 I guess since we had 1981.
00:21:04
So it would be the sack exchange? Yeah, that makes sense.
00:21:07
I mean, that's probably where I would have pegged it.
00:21:09
Yeah, good gang.
00:21:11
It was important that the Jets win, but now here, you could be a real pet. You have.
00:21:17
This is the first of the what I could tell the four real teams left on the schedule.
00:21:23
I consider Oakland, Baltimore, Pittsburgh and Buffalo as the last real teams left in the schedule.
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I'd put it right on Pittsburgh.
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I don't know what Pittsburgh is right now.
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I know that, but they are, but they're well coached.
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They're well coached.
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I don't like Mike Tomlin.
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I think he's underachieved.
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I think he's under chief since he's been there.
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I think he's I do.
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I'll give him credit because I don't I don't like Antonio Brown and he bottled him up.
00:21:53
I give a ton of credit for that e.
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I mean, that's that I have to know I'm not a big amount of Big Tomlin fan.
00:22:00
I think he should have won a Super Bowl, you know, with the roster he's had and the talent has had, I mean, he's the one, the one.
00:22:05
But it was kind of like, right after Cower left.
00:22:08
So how have kind of a tough time about that? There's still listen, always very consistent team that they're never like mediocre.
00:22:16
Yeah.
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Then you Thank you so much for calling in, kicking you out of the ****pit.
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You're here.
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I was doing like I had this little five minute timer itself to your five minute timer. Won.
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Got the two of us on, right? I'm just gonna check people willy nilly.
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00:22:59
Rick. What's up? Do welcome to the ****pit.
00:23:02
Hey, was going off.
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Hang in there and talk to us.
00:23:07
Big three Monday.
00:23:08
Hopefully everybody had a great Monday.
00:23:11
But let's get to some football, man.
00:23:14
So great win.
00:23:15
Outstanding.
00:23:16
Go Jets, right? Absolutely.
00:23:18
But it almost seems like us.
00:23:22
Just fans have cognitive dissidents because we still need to get rid of gays.
00:23:27
And owner strip still needs to get the hell out of Dodge Just because we put to freakin wind together on team that shouldn't even be in the NFL anymore.
00:23:40
You know, this is ridiculous.
00:23:42
You know, I love that we won.
00:23:45
I love that.
00:23:46
You know, this whole thing with the jet? Look, this is gonna happen if something happens, we get blowed out the water by the Raiders.
00:23:54
It's gonna be the same old song.
00:23:56
Everybody's gonna be moping, calling for people's heads again, and then we keep playing.
00:24:00
You know, we keep playing the game, we need to send a strong message.
00:24:05
Ownership hate freaking done, playing grab ass over here.
00:24:09
You fix this team, you need to get out.
00:24:12
Look, I agree wth e ownership has been absolutely brutal, and I know I think O'Leary I'm pretty sure you have the, you know, sell the team shirts team, baby.
00:24:21
He's got selling team shirts.
00:24:22
I I just kills me, the Johnson family and maybe I'm just hearing things now.
00:24:29
But I'm pretty sure I remember hearing at one point that Chris Johnson did not fire or do not want to fire Mike Macagni back when we were looking for a head coach because he did not trust himself to make a head coaching decision.
00:24:42
That's not funny.
00:24:43
I was like, Is that this is That's what this guy's saying.
00:24:46
He's saying I don't trust myself to make a head coaching decision So we're gonna let this guy spent $100 million.
00:24:50
We're gonna let him draft all these picks and knew Geom That's crazy.
00:24:56
She hurt, man.
00:24:57
Being a Jet fan is almost a Kirsty.
00:24:59
You're either born into it or I don't know what happened, dude.
00:25:03
But as only the Johnsons are are at the helm, we're done.
00:25:08
I mean, we're just gonna be put on baby powder for the rest of our freaking lives and and calling the day I understand.
00:25:15
I really just They're not fans there, you know Daddy Warbucks, they have trust funds set up that they just don't buy a football team.
00:25:23
Why not? And then they just get involved.
00:25:26
We get Tebow and we get Brett Farve and we get, you know, stupid people that sense.
00:25:30
And then freaking Peyton Manning screwed us over with you freakin endor*****ts.
00:25:35
Anyway, Dude, I think that move forward.
00:25:39
We'll see how it goes with the Raiders.
00:25:42
If you stay competitive, if we can pull out that win, we're headed in the right direction.
00:25:47
I'm not expecting much against Baltimore.
00:25:50
Uh, I think our defense will keep us from somewhat post in it, you know? But I think at the end of the day, you know, at 4/4 their quarterback gonna run all over, pull out that wind.
00:26:08
But my game, I'm really interested.
00:26:10
And I'm gonna stop you for just a 2nd sorry, Veena.
00:26:13
It's for 29 39 7 Donate $2.
00:26:16
Said Beatles.
00:26:17
Last concert Newer than Super Bowl three. Matt.
00:26:19
Oh, my God, That's just depressing.
00:26:22
That hurts, but no.
00:26:24
So, what were you saying? You think the Ravens are gonna run all over? Is it? Well, yeah.
00:26:29
You know, 4/4 you can get to the quarterback.
00:26:32
You already seen what he what he did against the number one defense against the Patriots.
00:26:36
He's on money quick than that. Different.
00:26:38
Ridiculous I look, I'm okay with Sam Darnold.
00:26:42
I still prefer him over Lamar.
00:26:44
I think Lamar could win a Super Bowl prior to Sam, I think.
00:26:48
Lamar, I think earlier.
00:26:51
I think that Mars career has a higher chance of being like an eight year, 2 10 year career.
00:26:55
Sam's I could see being a 15 to 20 year career.
00:26:59
Yeah, I agree with that right now.
00:27:01
Obviously, Lamar looks better right now, but long term, I'm not sure how sustainable his play is for like like you said, like a decade.
00:27:10
Plus, like I don't know.
00:27:12
I feel like he's gonna be susceptible to injury with the amount that he runs.
00:27:14
And I think he does a pretty good job right now protecting himself.
00:27:17
But I just don't know because we haven't seen very many quarterbacks like him, So I'm pumping the brakes a little bit.
00:27:24
I think he's great things in one m v p this year, but I'm still okay with Sam.
00:27:28
I'm right there with you.
00:27:31
Yeah, Thegame.
00:27:33
I think I'm interested and seeing before, you know, like to really gauge where were asked for the end of the season is against the Steelers just because I see so much similarity between our team.
00:27:45
Okay, talk to me how you show way better than our quarterbacks way better than I know what I mean.
00:27:55
You see the way freaking Adam is playing out of the people.
00:27:59
He took two more games like this.
00:28:01
You might end up freaking being defensive player of the year here.
00:28:06
He has to do with the rest of season, cause I still think the boast of brothers are still leading the train on that. Nick Bos is just incredible.
00:28:12
He's not gonna win defense Rookie of the year.
00:28:13
He's done when defense of M. V. P. That's very good.
00:28:18
Yeah, so I don't know.
00:28:19
I just think the Steelers is a good gauge because they got a rookie quarterback.
00:28:26
He might be out of game or two, depending on how this plays out with the whole Cleveland deal, but, oh, no, I think that's gonna be a good measuring stick for where we're at because, you know, when we started the year that first game against the Bills if we would have beat them, do the narrative would have been very different.
00:28:46
Completely great year.
00:28:47
Yeah, I think so.
00:28:49
Boom.
00:28:50
Dude, I have ejected from the ****pit, but we gotta do that.
00:28:57
We're gonna move on to next person who's talking who we got in the chat.
00:29:00
We got Doug last Kevin Durant V Man, sports fan.
00:29:04
Uh, Justin Levin.
00:29:06
My Knicks are looking good for once.
00:29:08
I'm not watching the game, so I apologize.
00:29:11
Did they lose yesterday? By that point? It was two days ago.
00:29:13
I don't know that I'm not into the n b A.
00:29:16
I couldn't tell you I'm so bad with this.
00:29:19
79 people in the in this. I like it.
00:29:23
All right.
00:29:25
Um, what do you think about the defense? Do you think we'll never mind? Sorry.
00:29:31
Call from O J L J.
00:29:35
What's up, dude? Welcome to the ****pit.
00:29:38
Well, you picked up.
00:29:39
Yeah, that's you've had.
00:29:41
What's on your mind? No, no. Go trip.
00:29:45
Always.
00:29:46
I like it.
00:29:47
As you said home, I hope just in my head.
00:29:50
But, I mean, I'm here when I think of you.
00:29:57
Um, two more Adams.
00:30:00
I think that is a great defensive Peacefulness now, do you think, based on his tweets and everything that he said at the trade deadline, Do you think he's trying to formulate a way out or have a back door out after? Not about? Yeah.
00:30:22
Look, I'm not No, I have.
00:30:28
I have a hard time believing in Jamal.
00:30:29
It's because I blocked his jersey.
00:30:31
I like. I love the guy.
00:30:33
I believed in everything he had up until the trade deadline and came to a screeching halt for me.
00:30:37
I really think that maybe it's not.
00:30:41
He wants out.
00:30:42
Maybe it's He wants to get paid so much money that he did that to have it out so he can get out and that, you know, maybe is a little more respectable.
00:30:51
I don't know you about your new work.
00:30:57
Quincy's done.
00:30:58
I think I don't think he'll ever play another ship.
00:31:00
Now I do think that we will have to designate him a June 1st cut because he's gonna have a certain man, a cap space because he's actually you guaranteed for injury next year's contract.
00:31:12
I'm pretty sure so if he doesn't clear, you know, whatever tests wherever he's got to do, I think I think we have to pay miss full salary, in which case is a June 1st cut.
00:31:23
And I'll spread the cap over two years.
00:31:25
But I think, God, I don't know.
00:31:28
What do you think? About what? You think you ever plays again? Um, I do not think that he plays again, because I don't think that he's phoning with Joe Douglas.
00:31:38
Coach, I don't think Course this case has done a bad thing.
00:31:43
Uh, because you noticed what he has around him.
00:31:47
What? He has to work.
00:31:49
He make a video while we're going against Lord to your change.
00:31:53
But you make it with what you have.
00:31:56
I look, I'm encouraged by what I've seen recently from Adam Gates.
00:32:00
I'm cautiously optimistic.
00:32:02
I want to see it against the rest of schedule.
00:32:04
You know, if what we heard from Chris Johnson is true, Gates will be back for 2020.
00:32:09
He's gonna be here for all or at least part of next year.
00:32:13
So let's see what we can get out of him for the rest of you and I you know, I think there's probably something to be said for us.
00:32:20
Not getting rid of them won because we'd be paying three head coaches.
00:32:23
I've said that before, but to weigh the same, you keep the same system.
00:32:29
That's a big thing.
00:32:30
I hear a lot of people say I also hear you know, you fire coach After one year, you don't support him halfway through the season, if you, Chris Johnson, were to say, Oh, we'll see after the season, no head coach is gonna want to go to the Jets after what Adam cases had to go through with the injuries.
00:32:43
I'm just curious to see if his training regimen is what's causing injuries.
00:32:47
Cause you had a bunch injuries in Miami to like, is something he doing something He doing good words is something that he does in training camp or whatever he's doing, causing these injuries.
00:32:59
We just do not get blessed water.
00:33:02
Our shining like normal.
00:33:03
Right now you talk about small arms or Adam Adam case.
00:33:07
No home.
00:33:08
Um, blessing on, Um Oh, awesome.
00:33:11
Okay, look, if he fingers crossed, if this dude could turn into a locked down corner, if you just turn into a starter that's huge.
00:33:19
Just a starter is huge.
00:33:21
If he could turn into like, ah locked down, stud.
00:33:26
I don't know what to do.
00:33:27
Oh, great.
00:33:28
Up site.
00:33:29
I mean, we got rid of our turnaround for nothing.
00:33:32
Well, I was so wrong on Jack.
00:33:35
I polite so wrong.
00:33:37
They're wicked.
00:33:38
I was I thought he looked like a clown.
00:33:42
I wouldn't sell you wouldn't want to be something.
00:33:44
And, uh, he just wouldn't I should play football.
00:33:50
Do what you're supposed to.
00:33:51
Dude, I completely agree with polite has been a total bust.
00:33:54
I don't even know if it's even on a team right now. He got cut from Seattle.
00:33:57
He's out of the league along Jim. Okay.
00:34:01
I'm pretty sure your mother Jeanne, that that is it's terrible.
00:34:06
Dude, thank you so much for calling in my little.
00:34:08
I gotta get a little hot button for this ejector seat.
00:34:13
Just moving on a long few phone calls, checking a chat every now and then.
00:34:18
I wouldn't spend money on Sheriff Danda.
00:34:20
Panda.
00:34:21
Look, I don't know what to think about Sheriff.
00:34:23
I don't know if he's actually going to hit free agency.
00:34:24
I think Washington's actually gonna resign him.
00:34:28
I'd want him, though.
00:34:29
I think he's one of the better right guards in the game, I think, is significantly better than Brian Winters.
00:34:33
And we have to help Donald.
00:34:34
So he would be my top top free agent.
00:34:42
It's what we got going on.
00:34:45
Uh, who would you guys cut this off season and signed this offseason? Nick Massi.
00:34:51
I would say first cut right off the best train.
00:34:54
Johnson get out of 100%.
00:34:56
He's gotta go.
00:34:57
Brian Winters out here.
00:35:00
Transit Dow Roberts.
00:35:01
Another big one gun.
00:35:03
Those were easy.
00:35:04
I would bring back, um, the punter.
00:35:08
I don't know what we have to give him.
00:35:09
I'm happy with what he's done so far.
00:35:11
I think he's actually been one of the better punters in the league.
00:35:14
Um, kicker, I'm totally up in the air for kicker.
00:35:18
I don't care if we keep thinking or not from then there a panda.
00:35:25
Oh, man.
00:35:26
Danda Panda.
00:35:27
What's up, dude? Hey, I mean, long time not calling in.
00:35:34
Yeah, what's on your mind? Why, for the common English ship is Washington didn't pick up your option.
00:35:46
They did pick up his fifth year option because this is his fifth year.
00:35:50
Yeah, because he was drafted the same year as Leonard Williams and Leonard Williams on your arm.
00:35:55
You're wrong.
00:35:59
I I read their trade down and get to the conference center.
00:36:05
Good play, center and guard rather than spending money.
00:36:10
I rather I rather spend the money on attacking.
00:36:13
I think we're gonna have to do both because, I mean, look, I don't know if there's a good left tackle heading the market.
00:36:18
I think I say either Taylor from long Taylor from Tennessee that I think is a free agent.
00:36:25
And I think there's a guy fronted the Eagles is Lane Johnson, maybe free agent.
00:36:31
I don't remember off the time I had, but there aren't many big time free.
00:36:35
Easy an offensive lineman in the market.
00:36:37
I don't think Yeah, that's my big thing.
00:36:40
That's why Sheriff is gonna be such a sought after piece, right? If he hits the market, I think gotta break the bank forum, especially if you're able to create more cap space by cutting guys like Johnson.
00:36:51
And you know the guys you just ran through winters and stuff like that.
00:36:55
I think you gotta go for, you know, a big position to need on the old line whom you've got ejected.
00:37:04
Sorry.
00:37:05
Couldn't hear you, and you're wrong.
00:37:07
Thank you for calling.
00:37:09
I appreciate it. And a panda.
00:37:10
I'll talk to you again.
00:37:12
The issue.
00:37:13
So we got t Jazz junior saying we aren't getting sheriff.
00:37:16
I think the biggest issue with us getting sheriff is that free agents get to choose where they want to go.
00:37:20
I don't think the Jets are gonna be a desirable location.
00:37:22
I think we have a very tough time getting for you to come here.
00:37:25
Yeah, you're probably right with that.
00:37:27
I would not be surprised at all if they're not able.
00:37:30
Thio draw.
00:37:31
I mean, this teams have been bad for a while, So you call from Uh huh.
00:37:38
Matt, What's up, dude? Welcome to the ****pit.
00:37:40
What's up? So would So it's really the probably If you had to redo our 20 between 19 drafted, I would definitely go with.
00:37:56
It's either gonna be Josh Allen, the past rusher, or I would have I wish we knew what we could have gotten in a trade down cause I would have if the tackle that the Eagles got, um What the hell's his name? I think they got a good tackling.
00:38:12
I can't. I think it was from old Miss.
00:38:14
I would anybody lining Based on what I saw out of the offense.
00:38:17
Linemen, I think I would have tried to take someone.
00:38:19
Although I think John Williams, which is who a lot of people were talking about, really did not play.
00:38:23
Well, you got hurt.
00:38:24
Yeah, he got hurt, so I So I think I was in prison.
00:38:27
I don't think we ever got to see him play No preview.
00:38:30
Yeah, I don't know.
00:38:31
So I would, Let's say, Josh, Alan, in the first round in third round, you take win a *****.
00:38:35
I think that's probably what you want to do. It E o.
00:38:38
R.
00:38:39
Instead of polite Edoga in the third round.
00:38:42
I don't know many of the players beyond that, and he's been serviceable at right tackle.
00:38:47
I would never put in a left tackle again.
00:38:48
I think you're only good on that right tackle.
00:38:51
I would try him at right guard.
00:38:54
If, like Shell can hold this like I would play with all the pieces.
00:38:57
I think Compton is looking pretty good at right guard right now for Winters.
00:39:00
I think Louis is looking pretty good at left guard for assembly.
00:39:04
now that assembly is gone.
00:39:06
I don't know.
00:39:08
It's me, the big gosh, Alan, in the first round, That's so that's the pick that I wanted from the gecko.
00:39:12
And I I'm not gonna get over that one any time soon.
00:39:16
I was so wrong on him to like, Look, I trusted whoever we chose on defense because of Greg Williams.
00:39:24
I preferred Quinn.
00:39:26
Well, which I say I should say I preferred Nick Bosa.
00:39:29
Then I preferred trade down.
00:39:31
Then was Quentin Williams over Josh on? And that was just because Josh on ran free all the time in college.
00:39:35
And I was like, Oh, you know what I've seen? I'm seeing a fake pass rusher.
00:39:40
It's totally this guy, your guy polite, So much better because, you know he's got spin moves.
00:39:45
Is that swim moves? And I could not have been more wrong.
00:39:47
Andrew Dondre Dylan.
00:39:48
That was the guy that the Eagles got.
00:39:50
Thank you for traveling to chat.
00:39:53
Um, yeah, I think the big 1st 1 would be obviously Josh Allen over Quinn and Williams.
00:40:01
Yeah, I think so.
00:40:02
It's a big yoga guys, for the future is in.
00:40:05
Yon could use from West Virginia I think he's pretty good.
00:40:09
I haven't washed anything about him.
00:40:10
I don't know anything.
00:40:14
I think Just take, like, two picks right after.
00:40:16
Okay.
00:40:17
Very interesting.
00:40:19
What else is on your mind? What do you think? That small Adams.
00:40:23
Oh, I think he's once in a generation like like, uh, demeanor.
00:40:31
But I don't know if you build around strong safety.
00:40:34
I think that's what's tough for me.
00:40:35
I think you can get, you know, 85% of the production you've gotten from Jamal over the course of his three years for pennies on the dollar.
00:40:44
That's the biggest thing.
00:40:45
I mean, like, I think it could bring in a strong safety for call it $5 million a year.
00:40:51
Whatever is $8 million a year at most.
00:40:53
And I think you could get relatively similar production rather than paying Jamal Adam's 15 million year Whatever he's looking for six years like nearly $20 million probably is gonna talk to himself is like a a pass rusher slash cornerback.
00:41:08
He's this hybrid peace.
00:41:09
What's he going to get? I don't know.
00:41:10
I mean, what did uh, what's his face get columns? Elena.
00:41:13
Colleges got like, six years. 75 million.
00:41:15
80 million.
00:41:17
80.
00:41:19
It's absolutely nuts.
00:41:21
Thanks so much for calling in thistles.
00:41:28
Great.
00:41:29
I got I got to get, like, a little, like button boards.
00:41:31
Just push the button.
00:41:32
Rather trying to drag my ass around for these things.
00:41:34
What else you got going on trash? Colin Harrison is actually better guard.
00:41:40
Uh, I think it's better at center right now cause Khalil blows and is injured.
00:41:46
Truth that I was very wrong on that.
00:41:48
I thought he'd be a confident center.
00:41:50
Khalil.
00:41:51
Yeah, so was I mean, look, I'll admit I don't mind missing on Cleo.
00:41:55
I like that we went out of our way to pull a guy out of retirement rather than trying to find a free agent or anything like that.
00:42:01
Like, I think he think Joe Douglas did the right thing turning over every stone.
00:42:05
Grandpa.
00:42:07
Grandpa Mark, Welcome to the ****pit.
00:42:11
Your mama's gotta go.
00:42:13
Jimmy has got to go.
00:42:14
Grandpa Mark, are you a subscriber of Matt O'Leary? Of course I am.
00:42:19
I subscribe to Mr O'Leary, I think when he had about 60 subscribers.
00:42:25
Wow.
00:42:27
Realize what? Eh? For a while, I don't come and much.
00:42:30
Matt But, Matt, I got to tell you, I love you.
00:42:34
I love you Content.
00:42:36
I believe you're a long island boy, which correct? So it's, uh, match jets and Islanders.
00:42:44
And I'm gonna be looking forward to a lot of Good Island.
00:42:46
Their content in the future.
00:42:48
Yes, there.
00:42:49
Appreciate it.
00:42:50
Thank you so much, but yeah, Jamal's got to go.
00:42:54
I don't want to hear any of this.
00:42:56
He's a generational type player.
00:42:59
He's gonna be them. VP.
00:43:01
All right, Who has get the judge if he can? Some high draft picks and some good draft takes.
00:43:12
I gotta go.
00:43:14
The foundation of this team has been a shambles, and I am talking about the offensive line.
00:43:19
It's been a shambles for years.
00:43:22
That is the number one priority.
00:43:24
And if we can get some good Like I said, if we can get some good picks, the Adams, he's got to go and I'm gonna say the same thing about Levian Bell.
00:43:33
They all gotta go.
00:43:36
I'm not as against the lady on Belle thing, as I probably wants Waas.
00:43:40
I definitely I'm more on board with holding on to him at least for another year, just to see what he can do behind a good offensive line.
00:43:48
I mean, look, if we can get, you know, something a little more substantial for him, I don't think we'll get a whole lot because he's a high priced running back.
00:43:55
But, you know, maybe the Jets could eat some of this contract at higher draft pick.
00:43:59
Similar to the way the Browns took on Brock Osweiler.
00:44:02
You know, taking on a heavy contract, getting a draft pick.
00:44:05
Something to that only slightly reversed.
00:44:08
Let me ask you something.
00:44:10
Why is, um why is kind Montgomery on this team? I don't know.
00:44:17
It's I think we're all on the same page with this.
00:44:20
I don't see why this guy's not getting the ball.
00:44:22
He looked good in preseason.
00:44:23
He looked like he was going to be sharing the load with lady on Belle.
00:44:27
And we haven't seen remotely, you know anything close to that? Well, all I know is I am a very happy Jets fan.
00:44:35
All I know is I think I can you be.
00:44:38
Have you guys heard anything about, uh what? The story is with my old friend Brecht.
00:44:43
A volley.
00:44:44
Is he on? I r is even let go.
00:44:46
Does anybody know? I think he's on I r.
00:44:48
I'm pretty sure he's been on i r since, like, preseason.
00:44:51
Okay, Well, like I said, I'm a very happy fan of Ali's.
00:44:56
Still on I r Brian Winters is on i r.
00:45:00
And hopefully he will be gone.
00:45:03
So look, I can't leave.
00:45:05
We've won two games in a row, so right now I'm a happy camper.
00:45:12
So are you ever gonna be on the tank and get a good linemen train? Are you like, Hey, I want the judge to go 97 right now.
00:45:22
What? Nine.
00:45:24
And hey, you know, obviously look, you go nine and seven.
00:45:28
You want the 19 7 But do you wanna win the games that people come draft time? I'm gonna say, Oh, we want that meaningless game against Washington.
00:45:34
We wait, that money meaningless game against the Giants.
00:45:37
And you know, that tackle that we really wanted was picked to picks up ahead of us because of it.
00:45:42
Well, you want to know? Look, I don't believe this whole.
00:45:46
I don't believe that.
00:45:47
Look, everybody's saying Miami's tanking and they're trying to lose on purpose.
00:45:53
No, they're not.
00:45:56
They're really not they think they are.
00:45:58
I mean, you still want to win these games.
00:46:00
But as far as far as the Jets, it concerns Um, no, I don't want to tank and we're definitely not going to go nine and seven.
00:46:13
No, definitely not.
00:46:14
Look, I think five and 11 probably.
00:46:17
I mean, I just want them look, A win is a win.
00:46:20
If we win two more games, If we win three more games, it is what it is and we pick as best we can or we trade down or will you know, hopefully, Douglas told something out of his hat, and, uh, he makes something happen with the draft, and hopefully it'll draft wisely.
00:46:38
But no, I don't want to see is not win another game.
00:46:42
I completely great.
00:46:43
I gotta take one quick thing.
00:46:44
V Man, 29 39 7 donated $5 says my high school in Peekskill was the Jets training camp from 1963 to 1968.
00:46:54
In fact, one of the teachers in my high school had the players jump in his pool.
00:46:59
That's awesome.
00:47:00
That's incredible.
00:47:02
There's ah who jumped in the pool.
00:47:05
The players, not in his pool in one of his high school teachers.
00:47:07
Pulls back in the 63 to 68 range.
00:47:11
And that's ridiculous.
00:47:16
Okay, it's kind of really do donate five bucks.
00:47:19
Hell, yeah. I'm gonna read it.
00:47:21
Five bucks a lot of fun.
00:47:25
So, Grandpa Mark, what do you think? Uh, of Quinn and Williams.
00:47:29
You think we trade him? No, he's a rookie.
00:47:34
What, you gonna trade him after one season? Let me ask you guys this.
00:47:38
Do you think that there's any possibility that Quentin Williams is still nursing that ankle injury? Yeah, I think so.
00:47:46
If it was a high ankle in high sprain like high high ankle sprain that takes a while to come back from and being the type, I guess high ankle sprain, regardless of position, is probably bad.
00:47:59
Maybe you get away with it if it's you're, like, not dominant foot as a maybe alignment or something like that.
00:48:05
But I don't know.
00:48:06
I I'm hoping that's the issue.
00:48:09
I hope it's like I I honestly, I honestly think that that's playing a big part of why he's not why he's not performing the way we're expecting him to.
00:48:20
I really think that he still is embarrassing that a little bit.
00:48:24
I agree.
00:48:25
Now, what do you think? Are you on the fire? Gays train? What do you think about his play calling? The last few weeks? Look, I've said it once.
00:48:34
I've said it a 1,000,000 times.
00:48:36
I never like gays.
00:48:37
I never liked the higher I don't like a style of offense.
00:48:42
I don't like I don't like the work guru.
00:48:45
I don't like any of that crap.
00:48:48
I look, I'm the way I see it is, I want somebody to take the Jets back to the way they were whenever they want, Uh, solid offensive line, smash mouth football and dominant defense.
00:49:04
That's that's what I like.
00:49:05
I like old time football, this new stuff in the cases system and whatever.
00:49:11
I have no stomach for it whatsoever.
00:49:13
And yes, I think you should be fired.
00:49:16
I love it.
00:49:17
Yeah, I completely great.
00:49:19
Now what is your take on Dowell Loggains looking like Patton Oswalt Looks exactly like the **** back.
00:49:28
I heard that You want to know something again? I think about it.
00:49:32
Doesn't look like it looks exactly like him.
00:49:35
Somebody said, you know Dowell Loggains sucks.
00:49:37
I was like.
00:49:38
Well, I got to bring this up now because this is like, it's too ridiculous.
00:49:42
If you don't know who Patton Oswald is.
00:49:44
You guys that are on YouTube to 72.
00:49:45
You guys watching? Just open up a side tab, type in Oswald Patton, and you'll be like, Oh, my God, He's our office coordinator slash running back car lineman or climbing coach or whatever.
00:49:56
Last challenge, man.
00:49:57
Very funny.
00:49:58
Very funny.
00:49:59
He doesn't look like he does, but all right, I'll let you go take some more calls and, uh, O'Leary You're gonna be going places, buddy.
00:50:08
I'm telling you, I appreciate that, man.
00:50:11
That's really nice of you.
00:50:13
All right. Have a good night, gentlemen.
00:50:15
Take it easy, Grandpa.
00:50:17
Mark everyone.
00:50:19
I love me some Grandpa Mark.
00:50:21
Yeah, I'm thinking we might have to do.
00:50:24
We were talking about doing some more jets, uh, panel type stuff.
00:50:29
We had talked without Thio.
00:50:30
Howie over address h Q and a gangrene.
00:50:34
David. So we're going to the four of us doing this.
00:50:36
I'd like to work on something that we can get, you know, all four of us on or do some type of game show, maybe we bring in like, you know, I've been talking some Dolphins guys.
00:50:46
Doug Lee doo doo Wrong.
00:50:48
Don't we do something or other Miami Dolphins fan talking him? Hash exports is always fun coming on here.
00:50:54
I'm sure the entertainer and those guys would probably come on at some point.
00:50:58
I'd like to figure out some way to do some kind of game and figure out how many people it works with.
00:51:03
Or if it's just one big panel that we just talk over each other and the No. One minds appearing anything.
00:51:08
I feel like it's more of the ladder.
00:51:11
That's probably probably true, I think O'Leary and I and you guys let us know in the comments.
00:51:16
If you want to see us, do Maur Dudley do right that has Dudley do wrong that if you guys want to see O'Leary and I do more stuff together, guys, I've reached out to Jet Center.
00:51:27
I see Manny Roman over there saying Jet Central in did not want to do our little thing, that we were trying to get together.
00:51:36
I've been too busy to actually attempt to do this anyway, but if you guys want to see more of me and O'Leary.
00:51:42
Let me know, because this is something I like doing, like 11.
00:51:47
Magnus? Magnus.
00:51:50
What's up, dude? Welcome to ****pit.
00:51:52
Well, Sub Brian.
00:51:55
Ah, you know, another day, another dollar.
00:51:57
What's on your mind, brother? You're here.
00:51:59
You I just wanted to get off my chest a little bit about Adam case.
00:52:04
What do you want? I would might be one of the few.
00:52:07
Just a and actually have faith in Adam gave.
00:52:10
Okay, Talk to me.
00:52:12
We'll hear it out. No.
00:52:14
Now I do see that a lot of people want to fire him.
00:52:18
But like what? People really expect going into the season.
00:52:21
Like people expect our records feeling what, 10 and 697 relating.
00:52:27
We we weren't gonna Realistically, we go and get a gold.
00:52:29
I'm just being honest.
00:52:32
No, look, I thought an optimistic outlook for us was probably 10 and six.
00:52:36
I figured we'd probably around eight and eight and right, I think based on the injuries and what I've seen and having Sam Darnold go out, all this difference off that's happened.
00:52:45
I think whatever Kurt came in would have failed this season, and I don't think we would have had many wins, although I will say this.
00:52:53
I think the team would have looked more prepared than what we have looked like under gaze up until last two games.
00:52:58
So it's really are returning a corner right now.
00:53:01
Or are we just seeing bottom feeders play each other now? How could help? Prepared like I don't know how prepared any other coach would have got a look, folks, team what I would look I agree.
00:53:15
Final Five Office line.
00:53:17
I I really have a hard time.
00:53:20
Police.
00:53:21
Even the top head coach is granted.
00:53:22
We couldn't put up a bigger playing a silly game.
00:53:24
Okay, that understand.
00:53:26
But look, forget the home in our patchwork of an officer line we have, I don't know, like, regardless, he would have been lost.
00:53:37
Look, I think this team was gonna be bad.
00:53:40
Regardless, I think there was no no way that we could have sustained all these injuries With the lack of depth we have and been successful this season, I think gaze deserves I don't think I think it's tough to fire gays based on what we've seen, you know, as faras.
00:53:57
Like I'm grading him based on his time Miami, which probably isn't fair to an extent, either.
00:54:03
But then you look at you know, Tannehill on Tanna, Helen and the Titans is looking pretty good right now.
00:54:09
You know, Sam looked like he regressed up until the last two weeks from last season.
00:54:14
So it's It's tough for me to grade much about the Jets right now, but when the Dolphins did have a healthy roster with hanging home tennis at Q B, B didn't make the playoffs.
00:54:26
You got to remember that.
00:54:28
Yeah, did they? I look, I think they have the I think that's not gonna tenant six, right? And they got blown out by the Steelers in the wild card game.
00:54:36
Yeah, did was that 1 10 He'll got her, or did he get hurt the following year? Hey, missed a couple.
00:54:42
I know.
00:54:43
I went to a game in 2016 where Matt Moore destroyed the Jets on like a Saturday night.
00:54:46
That's it.
00:54:48
That's terrible.
00:54:51
Look, I don't know.
00:54:52
I think I look, I agree.
00:54:53
I think gays deserves the benefit of the doubt.
00:54:56
We know he's coming back for next year.
00:54:58
At least right now, let's see what Joe Douglas can do how Joe Douglas thinks his scouting background.
00:55:08
Well, look, I completely agree.
00:55:09
If you look at Joe Douglas and he's got the scouting background, he's he's drafted to Hall of Fame caliber offensive lineman Dillard looks like he's going to be pretty good for the Eagles.
00:55:19
I think if if Douglas feels like he can hit online and we got loose and got Compton for pretty cheap, I don't know if we did we get Compton with Douglas or was he, you know, was he wouldn't magnet.
00:55:32
I think Macagni he might have been a Cabinet.
00:55:35
So we got Lewis and Lewis has been playing well so far, and that was for, like, nothing.
00:55:39
So if we can, if he thinks Hey, look, I know where I could get offensive lineman.
00:55:42
I don't need to spend a high caliber pick on him.
00:55:45
That's when you take a stud wide receiver or cornerback or something like that in the first round.
00:55:49
If this guy believes in his scouting potential and who he could bring in for the offensive line, thank you.
00:55:55
Oh, line's gonna be the big thing.
00:55:57
Thank you so much for calling in.
00:55:59
Appreciate it.
00:56:01
Definitely calling again. I apologize.
00:56:03
I didn't give you any heads up.
00:56:08
I've got going on in the chat.
00:56:12
People talk about lady on TV.
00:56:13
Traded Jared Judy Better to win momentum into next year.
00:56:19
Yeah, I completely agree.
00:56:21
I would definitely.
00:56:23
I would like to see his way because the more we win, the more faith I have in Adam Gaze for next year.
00:56:27
The more faith I have in Sam Darnold moving forward like I am 110% behind some Donald.
00:56:32
And if yeah, if If Donald fails, I believe it's fully on the Jets.
00:56:36
Like, I think this guy's legit.
00:56:38
Yeah, he's got all the talent.
00:56:39
I'm with you, Paul from Peter.
00:56:43
Peter, Peter, pumpkin eater.
00:56:46
Welcome to the car.
00:56:47
And how you doing that? But see that? What's going on? Not much, man.
00:56:52
Same old man.
00:56:53
I'm just excited about the wind, especially for the fact that I attended the game yesterday.
00:56:57
No, I like it. Very cool.
00:56:59
So you got tickets? How much you pay for two years, cause I heard rumors there were, like, $30 tickets.
00:57:03
I want my buddies go down there, Actually, yeah, depending what you want said the bottom was between 45 50 bucks that I'm actually going to the Jets Raiders game this weekend.
00:57:14
Okay.
00:57:15
The bear cats Binghamton, where I went to college.
00:57:17
They have an alumni ticket sale kind of thing.
00:57:20
So I got tickets and tailgate for, like, 40 bucks.
00:57:22
So I got to go deal on the field like that.
00:57:24
Yeah, That's too bad.
00:57:25
I'm waiting for the tickets to go down as cheap as thief $5 or $13 beers or whatever they did last year.
00:57:31
Yeah, that will eventually happen. Maybe.
00:57:34
No. Look, I'm excited.
00:57:35
What do you think about this upcoming game at the Raiders? Based on what you saw in Washington, what do the Jets did? Just have a chance against the Raiders.
00:57:44
If the old line can protect sand on all the way they did yesterday, then yes, because the Raiders, they cannot.
00:57:50
They're running.
00:57:51
Defense is terrible.
00:57:53
Now, I do think the Raiders are better than we've seen that they've played.
00:57:57
I think the hardest strength of schedule, if I'm not mistaken, actually do a little like I've heard That too.
00:58:04
Let me check in the next two after us.
00:58:07
They're supposed to play Kansas City and Tennessee totally wrong he was recently.
00:58:12
The last few weeks is their screams.
00:58:14
Strength of schedule is not very good.
00:58:16
It's actually a 0.
00:58:17
457 The Jets is 0.
00:58:20
48 once we've actually harder schedule kind of bananas for me.
00:58:24
I thought we were way lower the notice.
00:58:27
It has flip flopped on us.
00:58:30
I don't know.
00:58:32
So you think Who? I don't know who's on the Raiders anymore.
00:58:34
I know Josh Jacobs. I know Derek Carr.
00:58:36
I don't know if I could tell.
00:58:37
You know Antonio Brown's not.
00:58:40
Yeah, well, the tight end has had a great year. Waller.
00:58:44
I do know that I knew the title was doing well.
00:58:46
I didn't know what his name was.
00:58:47
I don't watch many of the West Coast games I really like.
00:58:51
I wanted to keep watching like a jet game, and I'm like, I'm just so tired of seeing bad football on then.
00:58:55
I like don't feel like watching too many other games you wanted watching like the Thursday night game in the money Nick.
00:59:00
Oh, yeah, Also, now that we're talking about West Coast and all that 60% at the time, West Coast teams don't really play that good when they have to travel to the East Coast.
00:59:08
That's true.
00:59:09
And that's the same one thing when you do East Coast to West Coast, West Coast, I think, is worse because a one o'clock in for them is now.
00:59:18
Technique. Yeah, it's three hours.
00:59:20
It's a three hour difference in college.
00:59:22
Yeah, that's that throws you for a loop, for sure.
00:59:25
I don't know where they played.
00:59:26
See, this is such a waste of a jet season for me because it's like we had the easiest strength of schedule.
00:59:30
Tom Brady's another year older.
00:59:32
He doesn't have Gronkowski.
00:59:33
They don't have.
00:59:34
You know, the Jets are traveling.
00:59:36
I think the furthest West we go is the Bangles, and I'm not worried about that.
00:59:41
Ah, we were just This schedule was set up perfectly for a good season.
00:59:44
We have more talent than we had last year.
00:59:46
Sam **** was another year older, and the fact that we got more from Todd Bowles we're getting from Adam Gaze is so frustrating.
00:59:55
For me, it is man.
00:59:58
But you know what, man? I believe in this team and the same momentum we had yesterday is the same moment we gotta keep.
01:00:05
Do you know, it's not gonna be easy, But at the same time, we've got all gotta stay positive, you know me.
01:00:09
So we got magnets.
01:00:10
Hansen in the chat saying Tyrell Williamsfirst bless Austin is the matchup to watch.
01:00:15
That's phenomenal. I forgot.
01:00:17
Tyrone Williams is over there.
01:00:18
I was big Tyrell Williams fan.
01:00:19
I actually wanted the Jets to sign him.
01:00:20
I didn't think we were gonna get him, but big wide receiver was from the Chargers went toe Oakland this past offseason.
01:00:28
And if Austin can cover, Tyrone Williams will know just what kind of corner Austin is at least like more than we have the last two weeks.
01:00:38
Like I don't trust anything we saw last two weeks out of Austin.
01:00:41
You know, basically, you're saying this game will determine where we really are.
01:00:45
Yeah, I think this is more of a litmus test than you know.
01:00:47
The last few games have been for sure.
01:00:50
Yeah, definitely.
01:00:51
When you look at it, I mean, the Raiders are more complete team.
01:00:53
I think if the season ended today, they'd be the 60.
01:00:56
No, the Raiders would be just had it up. Mother.
01:01:02
Um, yeah, I think the succeed so that you're right or not.
01:01:08
They would not be the succeed.
01:01:09
So as it stands right now, uh, New England, San Francisco would be the one seeds.
01:01:17
The two seeds would be Baltimore In New Orleans.
01:01:20
The three seeds would be Seattle and Buffalo.
01:01:24
Then you have Green Bay and more Houston will be.
01:01:30
Will be Kansas City and Dallas would be Kansas.
01:01:33
Well, on the side of the Kansas City and the Colts would be the wild card where no one would be Buffalo.
01:01:42
Buffalo would be awhile.
01:01:43
I'm sorry. I'm reading it wrong. I'm trying to kind of re tank.
01:01:45
A fun, I think, opens just outside.
01:01:49
Yeah, so? So the Colts would be a Yeah.
01:01:54
The Colts would be a wild card.
01:01:56
The Bills would be a wild card.
01:01:58
The Kansas City Chiefs would be division winner.
01:02:01
Houston Texans would be a division winner.
01:02:03
New England and Baltimore would be the division winners in the A F C.
01:02:06
Oakland's just sitting on the outside along with the Titans, so the Titans are 55 Oakland six and four.
01:02:14
The wild card teams are six and four as well, so they're all tied up top that sort of fresh.
01:02:20
They're decent point if we want.
01:02:22
If we want to have, like, a little bit of faith, Kansas City needs to do thus the favor, like right now and take care of the charges.
01:02:31
So if we're talking, Look, I think the Jets are gonna have so many tiebreakers going against him between the Browns, the Patriots, the bills, you know, Jacksonville, all these losses that we have, Even if the Jets turn around, we got seven losses.
01:02:45
But you know what? Let me put it to you this way.
01:02:47
I was looking at the court schedule earlier today, and they've already lost to Miami.
01:02:53
They lost the Pittsburgh and they lost generators.
01:02:56
And that still happens that we met.
01:02:57
We played the We play these three teams.
01:02:59
Okay, Okay, that's fair.
01:03:01
Look, you know, lose them losing to the dolphins.
01:03:04
Although they didn't have her set in, you know, gives us hope.
01:03:09
I guess maybe the tiebreaker goes our way.
01:03:11
I mean, we're still we're still thinking fifth right now, and what's crazy is dude, I don't know if we win.
01:03:19
If we would end up winning, and then I had to have to look at what the schedule is coming up, but we'd fall from fifth down to the 10th pick.
01:03:26
So re probably 97.
01:03:28
Might get you into a wild card this year in the A C.
01:03:31
I don't think the FCC outside of the top three in the A f C.
01:03:35
That's where it's gonna be.
01:03:36
It's gonna be New England, Baltimore or the Chiefs are gonna represent the F C 100.
01:03:41
I don't think anyone stand.
01:03:43
Let me put it to you guys this way.
01:03:45
The Kansas City's defense is terrible.
01:03:47
And Otto even thing that could make a strong like they did last year.
01:03:51
You have the patron.
01:03:52
Holmes is so good.
01:03:53
That's just joining you from the ****pit just because I didn't like that.
01:03:56
Ah, thank you.
01:04:00
I appreciate it.
01:04:01
Um, look, I think the A.
01:04:05
F.
01:04:06
C.
01:04:07
Is gonna go through New England.
01:04:08
It's gonna go through cancer.
01:04:09
He's gonna go through Baltimore.
01:04:11
And I think Baltimore is just one of those teams that's just so explosive.
01:04:14
Never count out Lamar Jackson.
01:04:16
What he's doing is nothing short of Michael Vick.
01:04:19
Madden 2000 for incredible.
01:04:22
Well, it's Vic.
01:04:23
Oh, for that's the only thing that really detonator? 10.
01:04:26
What's up? Do you want with ****pit? Yeah, how you do it? Not too bad.
01:04:31
Hanging out. Are you subscribed? Mata Leary.
01:04:34
I am not like you know what? Going to going to? The description is radio.
01:04:39
There's a link to his channel.
01:04:42
I tried to put as the first line, but when I tried to stream it, someone's putting all these things.
01:04:46
It's like three links down.
01:04:47
Click on his thing. Subscribe.
01:04:49
Then I'll start talking.
01:04:50
You don't do entire want Do do right now.
01:04:53
I love it. Thank you. Aggressive.
01:04:56
I'm a salesman trying to sell phone tapping up because glitch and therefore you can hear a tap.
01:05:00
All right, but this script in all here.
01:05:03
All right.
01:05:04
Um, we try to find him, OK? And she's right.
01:05:10
All right.
01:05:11
What's on your mind, dude? All right.
01:05:14
So yeah, honestly, I really, really kind of like, Why can't we be an nfi 31 now, but alters, uh, that That was a great team when we had ah, the other last this past sunday.
01:05:33
And I think that keep the momentum going, you know? I mean, remember last year we used to have a good.
01:05:39
No, no, this this, uh, this year has been like a three sided when you know we have special teams in there as well because, you know, last year, Daryl Roberts and Jason Myers pitting ass and therein But, like, you know what I think on all the defense would often have been improving.
01:05:56
So look, I agree.
01:05:58
I think we haven't seen a full offense, defense, special teams.
01:06:01
And who would have thought losing Jason Mayer would be as big of a hit as he's really been? It's been rough.
01:06:07
I did, I did.
01:06:09
I don't think much.
01:06:11
I don't think I don't think we've missed much from down Roberts, like, I think, Kickoffs.
01:06:15
If they eliminated Kickoffs entirely, I wouldn't be upset.
01:06:18
I think it's such a waste of a play now.
01:06:20
It's like frustrating every time and just started 25.
01:06:25
Now these There are some things that I want to talk about for the XFL, things that I think the wind up doing.
01:06:29
I think they'll take away Kickoffs where they're gonna wind up making it more aggressive and fun to watch.
01:06:35
I wanted the A f to really be a, um you know, a good alternative to test rules and testing.
01:06:44
They did so many things right.
01:06:45
The 42nd play clock, starting as soon as the players tackled short of the game tremendously, is absolutely incredible.
01:06:51
The No Kickoffs great idea, side by side commentary, perfect.
01:06:56
When they go to commercials, I hope the NFL tries to do more of this and it would just make the game go so much better.
01:07:02
It just it sucks cause they're gonna lose money.
01:07:03
And no one wants to lose the ad revenue from commercials and all that stuff because the stock go down.
01:07:09
I don't know, whatever.
01:07:12
I don't know.
01:07:13
But I agree.
01:07:14
We haven't seen a three team or three sided win yet waiting for that.
01:07:20
I mean, like, because I like, I like our special teams coach we had, I think, Do we keep a mission from last year? We still the same diary or no? Do you have no idea who our special teams coach is looking up right this second? The last special drinks actually took note of was west off, and we haven't had him for, like, six or seven years now, something with a B, I think right, so I'm blanking on it.
01:07:46
This is about it.
01:07:47
I got it. I got it. Wikipedia is popping up.
01:07:49
Boyer? Yeah.
01:07:51
There. You okay? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, Yeah. Okay.
01:07:53
I like it.
01:07:54
So, yeah.
01:07:56
I mean, honestly, I really like the man I think it needs, like, chill out.
01:08:01
Sometimes It's like, how did he make house? They missed the 40 yet Makes the 50 Elliot.
01:08:06
Mr 50 yet make the 40.
01:08:08
He just all over the place, man.
01:08:09
He's I think what? We're getting out.
01:08:12
I was typical for kickers.
01:08:14
I think it's I mean, look, you're not gonna get I'm watching Myers kick great field goals and C I don't know.
01:08:22
He was are we could have blown the cap space on him.
01:08:25
We couldn't just give it like a Yeah.
01:08:27
We'll give you ****.
01:08:28
I polite Seattle.
01:08:29
Just give us our kicker back way.
01:08:32
Do wrong.
01:08:33
How's your guy? Polite.
01:08:34
I mean, yeah, don't remind me of that guy.
01:08:39
I'm grabbing another beer.
01:08:40
You can continue talking.
01:08:43
Okay.
01:08:44
Cool.
01:08:45
You're worked up, guys. Ah, yeah.
01:08:47
Oh, yeah.
01:08:48
All right.
01:08:49
So what else you got? How you been? I'm doing good, man.
01:08:52
I'm excited to be on.
01:08:53
I never did a live stream like this before, but it's dope.
01:08:57
I don't stuff.
01:08:58
Amazing, actually.
01:09:00
Thank you for the great community by way.
01:09:05
See O'Leary on the ****pit.
01:09:06
He can copilot with me any time.
01:09:09
This is I like this, and I like the, uh There's something I think you know what turned me on to your channel map.
01:09:16
What's that was okay.
01:09:17
I was clicking through other stuff that that e I hear other jet fans talking.
01:09:23
All right, you know, whatever.
01:09:24
It's cool, but I start listening to you and the crisp audio captured, Yes, before we got started that that makes a difference to me.
01:09:35
So I'm trying to go all out for that, know that it's the right way to do it.
01:09:39
And I just bought a yeti Mike.
01:09:43
Probably, I don't know.
01:09:45
Two weeks ago.
01:09:46
Three.
01:09:47
Now it's got closed a month ago.
01:09:48
Now, old mike, you know, halfway decent.
01:09:53
I had this zoom h one which worked pretty well but crisp audio just so fantastic.
01:10:03
The first live stream I did.
01:10:05
And I've come a long way since then.
01:10:07
The first live stream I did, I did.
01:10:08
It was the jets laid on Belle when we had, like, 250 people in the chat.
01:10:12
We're like, Oh, my God, this is gonna happen.
01:10:13
And I go back and re watch.
01:10:15
And the audio was hot garbage.
01:10:17
Oh, God, That killed me.
01:10:18
Something happened with the audio, and it destroyed everything I did.
01:10:22
I wanted to cry.
01:10:24
I was like, I sound like an asset.
01:10:26
I want taking stream down.
01:10:29
Wow, Esso.
01:10:30
I actually don't post any my streams anymore just cause I want people to tune in while they're actually happening. Okay.
01:10:37
I don't know if that's I might wind up changing that.
01:10:39
We'll see.
01:10:40
Um, So what do you think about Jordan Jenkins? George Eggs. I'm excited.
01:10:45
I O'Leary I know he wants to re sign him.
01:10:47
I think you said that in your mock draft.
01:10:49
Uh, I'm right on board.
01:10:51
I think you have to re sign him.
01:10:53
He's been a steady, you know, consistent guy.
01:10:56
Good edge.
01:10:57
Center for me.
01:10:58
Almost feels like a Brian Thomas type of player with a little Calvin Payson.
01:11:04
Okay, that's kind of like I feel like he's a better pass rusher than Brian, But I don't know.
01:11:12
Look, I don't know what we wind up getting him for, I think in my mock.
01:11:16
I put him at eight million a year.
01:11:18
Three year, 24 million, I think is what I wanted given him, um, I would be all for bringing him back.
01:11:26
And I think it's important for a Jets team that hasn't had many players on second contracts to start getting players on second contracts.
01:11:36
And he's earned it? Yeah.
01:11:38
Yeah, of course.
01:11:39
I mean, like, I feel like, you know, maybe a possibly an $8 million.
01:11:42
4 year deal.
01:11:44
So, like, like, be like 33 two and all four year deal be 32.
01:11:51
I don't I mean, maybe he gets a four year deal.
01:11:54
Let me see.
01:11:55
He's ah, what we call him.
01:11:56
I guess you 34 outside linebacker.
01:11:58
Yeah. Um, over.
01:12:01
He's gonna cope in there right out that I think Dante Fowler got one year, 12 million.
01:12:06
He's more of a pass rusher.
01:12:08
I feel like although if Jared and Jenkins winds up getting a few more sacks over the course of the year, you know, So Dante Fowler got one year, 12 million.
01:12:16
That figure that started on Cayenne, because one year he probably have gotten 10 on a multiyear deal.
01:12:22
So, figure Jenkins around there, maybe between eight and 10.
01:12:28
He almost got one yesterday.
01:12:29
But your mom's touch theme song that Zach, I was like, Jamal gonna get an extra sack on his stat line.
01:12:37
I don't know if that's really him that caused it.
01:12:39
I mean, he he cleaned it up.
01:12:42
That was a J and Warren. James Jenkins.
01:12:44
You just touch me.
01:12:47
Get back now.
01:12:50
Yeah, I should have 1/2 back there.
01:12:52
Almost like a fairly I don't think they gave him 1/2 2nd I'm pretty sure they I shouldn't give him.
01:12:59
Oh, and I agree speculating all right.
01:13:02
And I just, you know, think I I want to see Quinn Williams develop a little more.
01:13:07
I mean, I understand.
01:13:08
Like, right now you have him being produced in a last back, and I know we said something about letter that first, you know about what? I had a good Ricky season like, we want to try a letter for 1/3 of Ford.
01:13:19
**** it.
01:13:20
This is what it Williams turns into another letter.
01:13:22
Williams, I'm gonna flip my desk out the window.
01:13:24
I like a good corner, Williams.
01:13:27
You know he again.
01:13:28
I know, like all like you clos e.
01:13:31
I mean, he flamed, um, orders face to the ground, doing Afghans into the ground.
01:13:36
And, uh, you know, just, you know, of course, just just, like, really go with the second lead, But like, he also plays a different position.
01:13:44
Works hard to dig through the trenches, you know, like he played defensive tackle usually.
01:13:48
Look, I watched the video on Quentin Williams, and I was all about this dude being the next Erin Donald.
01:13:53
I wanted to see some Aaron Donald type moves.
01:13:56
I get it. He's a rookie.
01:13:58
Donald didn't take off, you know, until probably year two or three.
01:14:02
But I way have we had.
01:14:06
Look, all we have is hope we had hope every single year.
01:14:09
This is what the god**** ownership sells us every single season.
01:14:13
It's true just because we couldn't jump in a fellow like that.
01:14:18
The guy of Zoe's Bezos Bezos, He wants a team.
01:14:23
We could Amazon drop players their contracts.
01:14:26
We're gonna We're just no one day delivery up.
01:14:28
Hey, guess what? It's way better.
01:14:30
I would I would be all four of Johnson selling the scene.
01:14:34
You know, instead of hiring a plane to fly around MetLife, we should all donate a bunch of money into a go fund.
01:14:39
Me.
01:14:40
All the fans will turn out.
01:14:41
Well, wind up like Green Bay, where all the fans will wind up owning the team will buy it for I don't know.
01:14:45
What is it gonna be? Fine.
01:14:47
$4 billion.
01:14:48
You know how long it would take to get $4 billion from jet fans? Unity took dollar donations from the 70,000 people that might show up to a game.
01:14:55
Take you forever to get a lot of money.
01:14:58
Not good, but not happen.
01:15:01
I don't know. Maybe I'll start.
01:15:02
I'll started moving.
01:15:03
Well, gotta go Fund me going and we'll get $4 billion to buy the Jets.
01:15:07
That's just gonna court court way.
01:15:09
We gotta get Daisy to help out.
01:15:11
You know, that's see, that's what we need. Jay.
01:15:13
Jay Z, you could be our owner.
01:15:14
I like it rejecting you from the ****pit because I've been talking to you for way too long.
01:15:21
You're here.
01:15:23
Who else we got? What do you guys thinking in the chat? You guys *****ing? Gary V.
01:15:30
I love you. I don't know.
01:15:32
I don't know much about Gary beyond where he made all his money from.
01:15:35
I was just a motivational speaker.
01:15:37
He started like a wine company, and then it blew up from that.
01:15:40
Really? I've watched some of his visit never like, follow him too closely from Brian.
01:15:48
Brian, What's up, dude? In a matter of leader, what's on your mind? Welcome to the ****pit.
01:15:56
Where you calling from, like, here and where you guys call from New York.
01:16:00
That's a very, very long island.
01:16:03
Okay, cool.
01:16:04
Are you subscribed to Matt O'Leary? Yes.
01:16:08
Um, **** right you are.
01:16:12
Okay.
01:16:14
What's on your mind? I just think about this the other day.
01:16:16
Um, engaged goes like 79 Actually not too now. It's good.
01:16:24
Our team, Like, look at the teams we have left that we should be.
01:16:29
We should beat Miami.
01:16:30
We should be the Bangles.
01:16:32
That puts us up five and 11 to get to seven.
01:16:35
And nine were probably gonna have to be Steelers.
01:16:40
And I would say the bills because I don't see us beating the Ravens.
01:16:46
Who else? We got Raiders and Steelers.
01:16:47
You're missing.
01:16:48
There's no I said.
01:16:49
Steelers readers, Rangers, Killers, Bills Or even.
01:16:54
All right, so it's gotta be.
01:16:55
We have to be thrills area and up temperamental dolphins Bangles.
01:16:59
And then you'd have to beat.
01:17:00
Yeah.
01:17:01
Do what? Who do you think we're beaten you think will be the best way to get 79? I'd be very happy.
01:17:08
For what? This season one of being, I think I could live with seven.
01:17:11
I think five and 11 is the most likely outcome.
01:17:15
Agree? Yeah, well, there are Maybe I'm I mean, like, uh, at this one, they're saying, like like, corner.
01:17:33
Hey, two of everything.
01:17:34
You're not wrong.
01:17:35
We need pass rushers.
01:17:37
Look, if if Jamal Adams can be our pass rusher in some capacity, I don't need I've always wondered why we didn't utilize him or along the line of scrimmage than we did.
01:17:46
Like he came up in run support.
01:17:48
But I love the way he is and blitz in the last two weeks.
01:17:50
He just looks like you get Brian pulls the same way I would blitz Brian Poole and Jamal Adams to try and get our pressure more than you know.
01:17:58
I think we have.
01:18:00
Yeah, I know people say, Like, you're more, more like one that looks like it wasn't born back.
01:18:06
Marc Maron transition from safety to linebacker.
01:18:10
Yeah, he did.
01:18:11
And you know what? I'm okay with Jamal doing that.
01:18:13
If he wants to know if he can play like outside linebacker for us and you fill in safety with, maybe you bring back Ron tells Miles or something, or I don't know that I think May is good on the back end.
01:18:25
I would hold on to him.
01:18:26
They like compliments.
01:18:29
Yeah, I really do.
01:18:30
I think they did a good job, Wolf.
01:18:32
I mean, I was a very big I wanted Dalvin cook in the worst way.
01:18:35
In the first round that year, I was, like, so on board with it.
01:18:40
And then I saw something where it was like, Dalvin cook.
01:18:43
Every year since I think his junior year, sop****re year in high school has been had some sort of running with the police.
01:18:49
All right, look, we're not signing this guy.
01:18:51
Got it? And then he was there the second round.
01:18:52
Leo, please just pull the trigger.
01:18:57
Yeah, we stand on draft. That's what it is.
01:18:59
We haven't hit on a second round draft pick in forever.
01:19:02
I mean, May outside of May for a Yeah, it was, uh it was, uh, Hackenberg.
01:19:11
Hackenberg.
01:19:13
Well, we know he was in, like, the fourth round.
01:19:14
I think Devon Smith was a second round there.
01:19:18
Steven was a second lab Do Cost was Pete.
01:19:24
Pete wasn't second round.
01:19:25
People's like 1/7 rounder.
01:19:26
He was a second.
01:19:27
Jason Morrow was a second.
01:19:29
I think Jason Morrow was a second out of Texas Tech.
01:19:32
Yeah, I'm really excited.
01:19:34
I'm bummed we didn't get secrets earned in this year because I think this offense really runs through the tight end position.
01:19:39
And Herndon would have been a huge help to this team.
01:19:43
1000% of Griffin going off.
01:19:48
I think he'll do good this week.
01:19:49
So I'm pretty sure this is gonna be a not a consistent thing.
01:19:52
But at least for this, we're gonna be a real good matchup for him.
01:19:56
Yeah, I think we're gonna probably come out strong this week.
01:20:00
We're kind of like, not problem.
01:20:02
Malcolm put up like 34 were like that 20 raise like we did against Dallas.
01:20:07
I like it.
01:20:08
I like it.
01:20:09
That would be if we can put up if we get 24 to 27 points.
01:20:15
I think we could beat the Raiders.
01:20:16
I think the Jets defense is well equipped to stop their running game.
01:20:21
What happens with Pharrell Williams is, you know, a whole another story.
01:20:26
I don't know.
01:20:27
Hopefully, uh, I I don't know.
01:20:31
My final night. My score prediction.
01:20:33
I'm gonna say Raiders, Raiders win 27 Jets 21.
01:20:39
That would be I think the Jets will wind up losing by over four points.
01:20:44
Yeah, I'm kind of right there with you.
01:20:46
I think it would be like 27 23 something like that.
01:20:49
Like I would love to spoil Buffalo season hashtag if you're still in here marking about Marriott and bring you Look, I know you guys ruined the bills, ruined our playoff chances in 2016 or 15.
01:21:06
Whatever year that was, I would love nothing more than to just ruin their season and, like, you know, across the board, if the Jets can knock out in teams along the way, and they could put a bulletin board material and play better, I'm all for it.
01:21:20
Just like I don't want to be like going to the office and again be like one of those top bottom three teams.
01:21:30
I completely agree.
01:21:31
Dude, I'm injecting you from the ****pit.
01:21:32
We got plenty of callers calling.
01:21:34
And I see all these different miss calls that we have.
01:21:36
Matt, we're famous.
01:21:37
People won't talk to us.
01:21:42
Um, in men think I like this.
01:21:46
Maybe we'll do a consistent thing.
01:21:47
Maybe maybe Jets talk on Monday is just O'Leary and Ryan going back and forth.
01:21:52
Amen.
01:21:53
I'm down.
01:21:54
Let us know if you guys want to see that.
01:21:57
Drop some knowledge in the comments section.
01:22:00
Who we got you.
01:22:01
We got a call from Brian from the Bronx.
01:22:05
Ryan from the Bronx.
01:22:06
What's up? Do welcome to ****pit.
01:22:08
You hanging in there? Talk to me.
01:22:11
What's on your mind? Yeah, man.
01:22:13
First things first.
01:22:14
I just want to say I've been subscribe to your channel for a while now, and I definitely respect the progress and the channels come a long way.
01:22:22
And I think that we haven't even seen the ceiling yet, so I respect the man.
01:22:26
You think I like too.
01:22:27
Good stuff.
01:22:28
Are you a Matt O'Leary subscriber as well? Yes, I am.
01:22:32
Actually, he puts a pretty good content as well.
01:22:34
I'm not sure I like it.
01:22:36
I like it.
01:22:37
This is good stuff.
01:22:38
I like the Jets community started get a little bit better when I started doing this sort of stuff.
01:22:42
It was like just jets talk or just yet, Central and like, I think angry David might have had, like, 500 subs at that time.
01:22:51
Yeah, I know how to bull****.
01:22:55
Why not? I like hearing my voice his but not, you know, First of all, I just want to tell you I've been a fan for probably if I want to see a steady 11 years.
01:23:07
Uh, I'm pretty sure you have more years on me way more.
01:23:10
I just remember from jail, man, it's always been from the top.
01:23:15
It's always been the ownership and, you know, obviously fast forward to now.
01:23:20
And we look at the current state of the team and I think it just recently said how you know, every year they try to market hope.
01:23:26
I mean, at this point, it's just like, how can you not get tired of it? You know, I really do think we need the owner change and that's probably not gonna happen with another 10 15 years.
01:23:34
Unfortunately, um, that's something that's kind of like, you know, blow.
01:23:38
It took.
01:23:39
Leon has dying for him to sell the team.
01:23:42
That's what it took.
01:23:43
And that's just say, there's I don't think the Jets are ever gonna get rid of it because they love having the Johnson never gonna get that They love here in the tabloids that love seeing the Jeff name pop up there making boo coo money on this franchise.
01:23:54
They don't care about how they do.
01:23:56
That's why they probably care.
01:23:58
They just butt in too much.
01:24:00
Great.
01:24:01
Well, as long as the money's flowing, they don't really care too much.
01:24:03
But I will say this, Uh, you know, I heard a couple people talking about, you know, Jamal, and obviously be traded in Libya.
01:24:10
Belle.
01:24:11
And you know, all this other things.
01:24:13
I feel like we have to for once in our franchise, hold onto the players that are actually game changers.
01:24:19
Um, I think I understand that getting capital for them, at least initially sounds practical.
01:24:27
But I think if we just continuously like you said, we have to keep, we have to sign our franchise players to second contracts.
01:24:33
You know, every just keep letting these players recycle after their 1st 4 years.
01:24:38
And, you know, we have another letter.
01:24:39
Williams and I just I think we'll never have an identity.
01:24:42
You know, I think we need to really, you know, work around Sam Darnold, Jamal Adams living on Belle.
01:24:48
It's a little different situation, since he's a little older and his position as well.
01:24:53
It's a little bit more flexible, but I just feel like, you know, we gotta hold on to this players and then build around them.
01:25:00
Yeah, look, I I agree that Jamal Adams one, I think, is the most interesting thing, and we brought it up.
01:25:06
God, it must be 56 weeks ago when we started talking about the thing No one want to bring up.
01:25:12
Jamal Animals is our most valuable trade asset outside of Sam Darnold, and there was even there was there's a spot when Sam was not playing well.
01:25:21
There was a contingency of fans that said Hey, if the Jets wind up with the 1st 2nd or third pick and they get their choice of 20 r, I p um, you know, Burrow or, um, Herbert from Oregon.
01:25:36
Do the Jets take one of those quarterbacks in the top three, trade Darnold for a king's ransom and have the rookie contract for five years, as opposed to Sam, which we might need.
01:25:47
We might need all next year to rebuild this line, and it may not be until his fifth year option that we actually are competitive or fourth year.
01:25:54
Yeah, but in your personal opinion, you feel like we just we just give up too easily because I feel like every time we do this, you know, we dropped a big name in the first round and it's usually top six top five.
01:26:08
As soon as it doesn't pan out, we just go.
01:26:10
Oh, typical jets, you know, Typical typical. Just bull****.
01:26:14
And I just feel like this time we actually have something in Sam Darnold.
01:26:17
I don't think we drafted maybe a whole of fame quarterback, but if they were drafted a quarterback that we could win with even if we get I've always compared to Sam Darnold, at least this place out like a match.
01:26:28
Stafford.
01:26:29
Maybe not the same arm town, but as far as play style, and I feel like even if that's his feeling, we can win around them.
01:26:35
But we have to give him a chance.
01:26:37
I mean, it doesn't matter who you put our quarterback, who you draft number one overall.
01:26:41
Whatever we need to build around our franchise players, we can't sal***eable Adams and not give him a top five pass rusher.
01:26:49
We can drop the Sam Darnold and not give him a top 10 Chiefs, even a top 15 old line.
01:26:54
I mean, we just like you said, We're very top heavy.
01:26:57
And then as far as steps were weak, we have spaghetti legs.
01:27:01
Look, I think Sam Darnold is the most talented Jets quarterback the Jets have ever had.
01:27:06
Franchise quarterback wise.
01:27:07
You know? You know Brett Far, Michael Vick, those guys physically more talented with the arm and the right.
01:27:13
But I think Sam Darnold will own every single Jets record by the time he's done with us.
01:27:18
And I Really, I thought this season was gonna be the year that we got to see.
01:27:24
I thought he was gonna break the touchdown record and the passing yards record, and I really think if he was in there for all four games because right now he's at what we at.
01:27:34
He's at 1600 yards, so he's not.
01:27:35
He's not getting there this year. He missed three games.
01:27:37
You'd have to throw some silly amount of, you know, yards.
01:27:41
But either way, I think next year, if he stays healthy and he's there for the entire season, he has top 20.
01:27:48
Offensive line now that not a bottom 12 right? I think he breaks all records.
01:27:53
You should definitely showed the town is there.
01:27:56
Yeah, the dude's just one.
01:27:57
Really? I see.
01:27:59
Ah was a big green.
01:28:00
Know who said that? Scott said Sam reminds me afar.
01:28:05
To an extent.
01:28:06
I think the improv, Yes.
01:28:10
The arm talent is not there.
01:28:11
The arm talent with far Dude had a howitzer.
01:28:14
But the s capability of Sam is, I think, better than fire.
01:28:19
I think far I've had a good, you know, backyard kind of quarterback play style.
01:28:23
But I think Sam is the I think Sam's a good quarterback.
01:28:27
I think Sam can be a perennial top five quarterback in this league.
01:28:31
I think that's how talented he is.
01:28:33
Yeah, I see a couple of Rome Oh, comparisons in the chat.
01:28:35
I like that one a lot.
01:28:36
I think that's pretty good, I think was a great extremely.
01:28:41
It's almost like scary, accurate how they both like, you know, they they're just natural, like gunslingers.
01:28:47
Maybe not in the sense of arm strength, but Maura, just like like you said, that backyard quarter bag placed out where they're just like, you know, they're very nitty gritty, like will take the hit.
01:28:57
You know, they get back up and they'll make you amazing place.
01:29:00
And then every now and then, make a very head scratching place.
01:29:04
I personally love Donald.
01:29:05
I'm I'm committed, You know, I wanted I wanna win with him.
01:29:08
But I do have a question for you guys for both you guys.
01:29:11
Just shoot.
01:29:12
Let's say your three is obviously, as far as you know, our knowledge, we're rolling with Adam Gates.
01:29:16
Unfortunately, let's say you're three and Dr plays a full 16 games and he does not show out the way we need.
01:29:25
Your three is usually that quarterback here where you need to, you know, Shut up or not up. Wait.
01:29:37
You don't extend them yet cause you own his rights for two more years, and you could really franchise him for two years after that.
01:29:43
So you really have control of Sand Donald for the next four and 1/2 years if you want to.
01:29:48
I would not pay him big money if he doesn't show up next year.
01:29:53
Now I have a hard time believing that he's just gonna fall flat on his face.
01:29:56
I like fully 110% back this guy and I know I've been brought in.
01:30:00
Jack, I polite.
01:30:01
I was wrong.
01:30:02
I'm like no other dudes that we've signed.
01:30:04
But quarterback wise, I think Sam is most talented quarterback we've ever had, and it would be a I think the Jets would be at fault if he doesn't pan out that sort of my take on it.
01:30:14
I think that false.
01:30:16
Yet I pretty much agree with everything you said At that point, I would kind of go like the Redskins Kirk Cousins route and like Franchising for a year and like if it's still not working out, then you just say OK and you let him walk and then you either draft somebody or find small Yeah, and ideally, I don't want it to get to the franchise tag part I would like to go into just before his fifth year option.
01:30:40
The Jets? No.
01:30:41
Okay, this is our franchise, guy.
01:30:42
You say, Hey, let's throw five years X amount of money, Whatever.
01:30:47
150 million or, you know, 200 million.
01:30:51
Whatever it's going, it's going to be in 200 million.
01:30:52
I think by the time Patrick Holmes get signed, I would rather us extend him just before your five.
01:30:59
Then get to the point of the franchise tag.
01:31:01
So we have another two years Thio kind of great him.
01:31:04
I don't think we're giving up on him before that.
01:31:06
Unless you, like, totally ****s the bed.
01:31:09
Right? Um, another question that we draft top 10 for the next draft, which I'm pretty sure it's very likely.
01:31:20
What position do we go? You know, if we only have one pink, what position do we go? I'm in favor off offensive line.
01:31:26
I think.
01:31:27
I think it's been over 10 years.
01:31:28
I believe this draft of the linemen and I think we're way overdue.
01:31:31
It's 13 breathing you.
01:31:33
We can get a big name if available, but I think we have to go, Lineman.
01:31:38
How do you guys feel about if we're top 10? I think it has to be a line.
01:31:44
I think the second round pick has to be online as well.
01:31:46
I think it's tackle or guard even.
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And then it's, you know, it's center in the second.
01:31:52
If you trade Jamal and you get that 20 to 30 pick for him, Um, I would be more open.
01:32:01
I was more open to like, uh, Chase Young CD Lam kind of pick.
01:32:07
I think if we have that additional pick it kind of hands.
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I don't know where these where these players are gonna wind up shaking down in the rankings.
01:32:18
Chase Young is someone that I would have definitely taken if we wound up with a top three pick.
01:32:24
I don't know.
01:32:25
I wouldn't I wouldn't trade up.
01:32:27
I wouldn't I would look at trading down, maybe.
01:32:30
Yeah.
01:32:31
Um, if we were saying we picked 10th I don't know where that next tackle is supposed to go like, I don't know if Austin Jackson is a top 10 pick or you know, and I kind of have to probably see that Andrew Thomas.
01:32:43
I see guys commenting in there.
01:32:45
Andrew Thomas is not getting past Washington.
01:32:47
Unless someone trades upto Washington's pick and Washington falls behind us, there's no way we're getting him.
01:32:52
Yeah, I'd be surprised, but that's really the guy that I want.
01:32:55
Yeah, he's Yeah, Thomas is the one, I think all Jet Fan's air 110% united on.
01:33:03
People are saying Tristan and worths worse out of Iowa is a couple prospects up there like, especially that in that top 15 rage.
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And it could be like possibly the 45 linemen.
01:33:13
Yeah, I have a hard I have a hard time not going.
01:33:16
Lyman.
01:33:17
Based on what we saw it, I don't think Sam and the offense are gonna get better unless we fix the old line.
01:33:21
And you know, if you have to take the 15th best player at pick eight because you need offensive lineman, just do it for this season.
01:33:31
I don't care if the dude pans out.
01:33:33
It doesn't matter where he was taken.
01:33:35
I'm all about upgrading this offensive line this offseason.
01:33:38
It's It has to be priority.
01:33:40
One wide receiver, cornerback, pass rusher is all after that.
01:33:44
You agree, even already, that best player available? Yeah, actually, hurting us more than helping as faras the development of our routines.
01:33:53
Uh, because we take all these players and they never amounts of winning best clear available is a very, very optimistic I don't know.
01:34:03
It's kind of escape going.
01:34:04
Oh, you know, this guy we thought was the best guy in the draft, So we took him.
01:34:07
You know Leonard Williams when we took Leonard blames.
01:34:10
I was okay with it because, you know, like everyone said top player in the draft, I wanted to Mark Cooper.
01:34:16
I wanted Brandon, Sheriff.
01:34:17
I wanted marks.
01:34:18
Mario de, like all these guys had already been taken prior to pick.
01:34:21
Right? So, you know, I would have understood Vic Beasley because we had Mohammed Wilkerson.
01:34:27
We had Sheldon Richardson, but they had all their issues going on.
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Wilkerson was not getting extended at that point.
01:34:31
Sheldon Richardson, I think, had just gotten in the car incident where he was driving 120 miles an hour.
01:34:40
So I kind of understood that Leonard pick.
01:34:42
But Vic Beasley would be that pick now and honestly, Beasley hasn't really look good either.
01:34:46
I think he's actually hitting free agency this offseason.
01:34:49
Yeah, I like that.
01:34:51
One of his best year he had was a very low graded profootballfocus grade.
01:34:57
I think, if I remember correctly, went off in 16 I think, and then kind of regressed a little bit after that.
01:35:03
I don't know if it was, it might have been.
01:35:04
I want to say was 17.
01:35:05
He had, like, double digit sacks, but a lot of the sacks were untouched.
01:35:09
He didn't do anything, ever clean up sacks or coverage sacks.
01:35:12
I think that's what wound up happening with him.
01:35:14
So he's actually not even that great of a pick.
01:35:16
You look at the Queen and Williams pick, you probably take Josh Allen there.
01:35:20
We just need a pass rusher in the worst way.
01:35:21
Jamal Adams.
01:35:22
If you could redo it, you're taking patch from homes.
01:35:25
And then I think the biggest issue for me is I was okay.
01:35:30
Not taking a quarterback that year because I thought the coaching staff believed in their second round pick and we didn't get to see him, so we didn't really know what was going on if they decided to take Jamal Adams because they did not want to admit fault in taking Christian Hackenberg is the biggest disservice that this franchise has done to the fans in a long time.
01:35:52
You're spot on with that.
01:35:53
It's, I mean, think about you'd have Patrick Holmes and you'd have three second round picks.
01:35:58
You'd have probably Quinton Nelson as your guard because the Bills would trade up with the Colts and quit.
01:36:03
Nelson now falls to six for the Jets.
01:36:05
You have, you know, just a slew of players that we could have taken, and it's just it absolutely kills.
01:36:11
But you can't play that hindsight game because hindsight is always a tough, you know.
01:36:15
And here we are.
01:36:17
And I remember what you said about Donovan Cook as well.
01:36:19
I'm with you 100%.
01:36:20
I was like, after the first night and I realized that I didn't get taken off the board.
01:36:25
I was like, This is a no brainer.
01:36:27
And then they double did on safety.
01:36:29
And that was another questionable Oh, Dr Choice.
01:36:33
I mean, we went Jim morons and then Marcus May, you know, it was just I don't know.
01:36:38
I didn't understand that.
01:36:39
I guess I guess we needed it.
01:36:40
But there were so many other pieces, especially in often susceptible that were, which is vulnerable.
01:36:47
We need is way more pieces on offense and defense.
01:36:50
And that was that was just a head scratcher.
01:36:52
And even then, let's just say we do trade Jamal Adams.
01:36:56
Are you okay with Marcus? Maybe an hour.
01:37:00
I am.
01:37:01
I think I made is really good.
01:37:02
I just need to stay healthy.
01:37:03
That's really the only the only issue with him.
01:37:06
I like Jamal Adams.
01:37:07
If Douglas can find a way to keep him, pay him and build the offensive line, I'm all for it.
01:37:14
I would like to see him stay.
01:37:15
I just question if that's a realistic thing.
01:37:18
I think this offensive line rebuild is gonna take two years without a Jamal Adam straight.
01:37:22
And I don't think this team can afford that.
01:37:25
Most definitely gonna need a sacrifice.
01:37:27
And last one on one hold you guys up.
01:37:29
Um, how do you guys feel about Joe Douglas and the franchise moving for? Do you feel like he has what it takes to really like, clean up this mess and just turn the whole culture around? Or do you feel like where it's gonna be another kind of like Cagney.
01:37:44
I have to hope that he's not.
01:37:45
I like I really I really do.
01:37:47
That's what it comes down to.
01:37:48
I really believe I believe in Joe Douglas.
01:37:50
I believe in his demeanor.
01:37:52
I feel like with Idzik and Tannin Bomb and the Cabinet, these guys looked like suits that were in an office that never really played the game.
01:38:02
Joe Douglas, on the other hand, looks like he's a lineman.
01:38:04
Looks like he's gonna hurt you if you do something wrong.
01:38:06
Like this is an intimidation kind of guy that has the head agree from Howie Roseman.
01:38:12
The pedigree from you know, his time with the Eagles and you know, the You know, he just seems like he's Maur buttoned up and more of a full proof GM And I.
01:38:24
I'm hoping based on what I've heard in the scouting department, they're actually investing money into it. We got Phil Sa***e.
01:38:30
I'm hoping we get Todd McShay.
01:38:34
There were rumors surrounding McShay and Douglas because they're, I guess, their close friends.
01:38:39
I would be all on board with that.
01:38:40
I actually I really like the Mike Mayock GM selection for the Raiders.
01:38:44
I think that was a smart move because you have to build through the draft.
01:38:47
So if we can get you know, McShay as a I don't know, consultant, it doesn't.
01:38:53
He doesn't have to do it full time.
01:38:54
Whatever it is, just I would bring him on and just try to build this team through the draft as best you can.
01:39:01
I'm with you there.
01:39:02
I really I am confident in Joe Douglas.
01:39:04
I think he is going to be a better draft there.
01:39:07
And Mike, I need one because that it's almost impossibly worse than Mike.
01:39:10
Mankind was drafting, but he came from like you said it with Theo Eagles and then even his time with the Ravens, that Ozzie Newsome.
01:39:18
That's another all of fame general manager there.
01:39:20
I think this guy has a ton of potential.
01:39:23
I got faith in him.
01:39:24
E.
01:39:25
I completely agree.
01:39:27
Dude, you've been ejected from the ****pit.
01:39:29
I apologize. We're out of time.
01:39:31
I said 8 to 10 o'clock.
01:39:32
We went 8 to 10 11.
01:39:34
That's all right, Matt O'Leary.
01:39:36
I've had a blast talking with you today and we will definitely do this moving forward.
01:39:39
I'll probably talk to you after this.
01:39:41
About potentially just doing this moving forward because I have fun with this sort of stuff.
01:39:45
And then I don't want you wasting all my air.
01:39:49
No, absolutely.
01:39:50
It was a blast.
01:39:51
Dude, Thanks for having me on, guys.
01:39:53
If you haven't subscribed the Matt O'Leary check out his channel, it's in the description down below.
01:39:59
Don't forget to tune in for all our other stuff.
01:40:01
We'll have another life from coming next Monday.
01:40:04
And guys, where's my music? I got turned up louder.
01:40:11
This is Jeff's talk and Matt O'Leary signing off.
01:40:14
Have a good night, boys and girls.

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I'd highly consider going wide receiver at the end of the first round.
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I would definitely go wide receiver at some point.
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I like so first overall, If we're like that Top 10 pick, I definitely want alignment.
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Andrew Thomas was my sweetheart bottom, but Washington's gonna get him for sure.
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Um, I would say I put Austin Jackson in my, um, little mock draft or mock off season that I put together, and I'm not 110% sold on him.
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It's just basically because he's an offensive lineman in the Jets.
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Need offense line help? As much possible? I actually, I don't know if the Jets do You think there's a trade potential with Trent Williams at all? Uh, that's, uh, that's a real tough one.
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I have a tough time seeing it.
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Yeah, and I don't know if I'm gonna want to give up the draft capital it would take to get him, especially at his age.
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That's not to say that he's not a good offensive line, obviously, is very good, but he's gonna be a year removed from playing and another year older.
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I feel like I'd rather at that point take the Bentley. I said.
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Best offensive lineman available and then forget about that position for 10 years.
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Like what they did with Nick Mangold and D'Brickashaw Ferguson.
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Yeah, that's kind of where I fall.
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I was watching some highlights, so I'm not a big Jerry Judy fan like I get why people are high on him.
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I really like CD lamb.
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I think CD Lamb is really good.
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The wide receiver from Oklahoma watching his stuff.
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I was like, Man, you know, I would be okay if the Jets took him in the top 10.
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But I wanted lineman and then for the second part, If you want Thea, if you're looking mid to late twenties, I don't know if I roll the dice on, uh, the center from Wisconsin being there in the third.
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I might take him in or not.
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Sorry, not the third.
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At the beginning of the second, I might take him at that first round pick just to solidify it, because if we're going into the draft and that's our only need, not our only need but are only like the biggest need.
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I guess it's not even just the biggest need.
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It's the you know, we went in from the off season.
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Unless they're okay with, like, Harrison, maybe doing one more year at center, and they're like, OK, let's not push the draft pick.
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If you false was in the second round, let's take him.
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I don't know I would I would be very hesitant toe not take him.
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I honestly, I wouldn't be mad at if they went to a two offensive lineman in the first round, that I'd be all for it.
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I think that outside of the quarterback position offensive line is like right up there in terms of importance to a football team for May.
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I got a few people in the chat.
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It'll take some chat questions before we jump on two phone calls.
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But it looks like S O Douglas lady on Belle will be traded this offseason.
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Do you believe that? I don't think so.
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Um, the reason why I was hesitant is because in Adam gazes offense, it just doesn't seem like he's utilizing him right.
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But I just don't think that they're gonna pay him that money and then, like, be so quick to flip, maybe after another year, if they go through and he's still putting up the same kind of production in 2020.
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Maybe they look to move him after that, but I'd be pretty surprised if they flip the map there just one year.
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Yeah, I would.
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I would be upset to take away a weapon from Donald right now, especially someone that could be as good as Bell with a good offensive line.
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If we could revamp this offensive line, we might get an entirely new bell next season.
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Now the the issue that I see in the last two or three games, it actually looks like they've been using Powell Maur in the run game, and he's been slightly more effective with a bad offensive line.
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You almost want the running back that's gonna hit the whole really fast, as opposed to Belle. It's a little more patient.
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And while I think Bell's play style, you know, can be awesome, it's just not necessarily working with what the Jets have to work with right now.
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Yeah, I definitely agree with that and I'm one of the biggest block pal fans, so you don't gotta sell him to me.
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I think he's great and pass protection.
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I think you know he could catch the ball out of the backfield, do a little bit of everything.
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And for some reason the Jets, like, refused to use time.
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Montgomery, I'm not quite sure why, but I liked that they used block Powell.
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He was really effective on that one driver.
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I think it was in the second quarter.
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He had, like, a 17 yard run, uh, and almost scored.
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But he kind of fell.
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And, uh, I really liked, you know, to me I would use to running backs on the field the same time from certain packages.
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The Jets, I feel like rarely have done that this year with the three running backs.
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They have just put a bell in the slot and have either Montgomery or power in the back.
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Yeah, no, I would have done way more, you know, multiple running back sets.
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I think we're seeing more tight end sets, which is I mean, I don't know.
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Brown was on our team.
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Who is this guy? This guy scores a touchdown.
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Griffin looks real good.
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I was He's very been a very good pleasant surprise for me because, you know as ah, you know, Texan coming over here, he had I think it was a D u I charge a great we're getting some other scrub.
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Not gonna be reliable.
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He's been reliable that we've seen so far.
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And I think if we get, um, I think the Raiders a team one of my buddies is a big radiation.
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He's like, Yeah, Tyler Eifert.
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Any tight end that they're playing, they're going to do well.
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So look for Griffin this week.
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You know what he says is true that the Raiders are terrible against the tight end.
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I would like to see some continued success with Griffin.
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That's good insider info.
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Might have to use that.
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My draft things this week.
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He did see, it's not that it If you want to be real clever, you do it on Fanduel.
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Not that I'm associate handle, but I know a guy that knows a guy that knows a guy.
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Okay, but I have a drafting studio.
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I haven't I should do, like, more like, drafting stuff, but I I honestly haven't won anything.
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This entire season's been terrible.
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Yeah, I've only had one good week, so I'm right there with you.
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I'm gonna grab a beer real quick, then we'll take some phone calls.
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Okay, I'm in.
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This is fun.
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I read up the commons a little bit.
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Let's get the phone number on the screen.
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Boom.
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Phone lines are open.
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People.
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We got half tax sports in the building.
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They've been, uh, sure, let's marry.
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Oh, just like Bill stands.
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I am a closet like fan of the Bills right now.
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Really, what they're doing is I shouldn't say that because it's, you know, inside the division.
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But I like the guy that gets beaten down.
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It's kind of understandable in Florida.
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Chris from Florida.
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What's up? Welcome to the ****pit.
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Try talking a little bit, but I'm not sure if O'Leary can hear.
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You haven't tested this out yet.
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Let's go.
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J D Just just get two wins in a row, baby, I can hear you here. Okay? I'm trying.
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I gotta play with the volume enough.
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So that way, his voice comes through and hits the microphone.
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But like I know my man.
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Do you like it? 24 7 I'm not wearing Okay, baby.
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I love it.
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Dude, what's on your mind? Talk to us.
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All right. So I'm gonna straight out. They matter.
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Larry, I'm already in the driver.
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I'm a big fan and I love your commentary.
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And I love how you ****yze.
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The team is friendly after every I love your work.
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I'm a huge fan.
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Thank you so much for representing the jet men.
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Now let's get you to first off, I think I think both the all his ideas on the drafting Oh, I'm witches have to disagree with that.
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I put $10 on you.
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Get up.
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I said 10 dollars that were in the keys to more out of this.
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The big reason why Jamal Adams is a huge representative of leadership and for this team to be going to another rebuilt and knowing that we're going to be bringing in some fresh details the blood mine, we need someone who's gonna keep the high to keep the control.
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And I think Tamal Adam is the guy for that.
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You don't really see a lot of leadership out of anybody else at least, in my opinion, any other defensive player.
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So it's really hard to believe that Jamal would.
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I mean, you got a day.
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Mostly, I know that, but with a young perspective, mine and the energy has thinking thinking for sure staying thing.
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You know, that's that's my perspective on that.
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Uh, with the draft, I hope we go ahead and first thing we got to get in office, the blind player and he's available.
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If anything, I really wanted center or somebody to cover **** Donald left side.
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But after that, start picking up more office alignment, people, corners, cornerbacks or edge rushers.
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And then around maybe the third or fourth drafted off some wide receivers.
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That's my D point on the whole draft thing right there.
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What about? So you just said Jamal Adams is a great leader and I look, I really do believe that I just have an issue with the way he handled the trade deadline, and I'll be honest.
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Since the trade deadline, I really haven't worn my Jamal Adam's jersey, and it's like I've been pretty heated.
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I've tried to keep my cool with it, but like I don't think this guy wants to be here a long term, and that's my biggest like beef with it.
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Like I think he's trying to develop a plan for him to get out and go to Dallas after this contract, and that is disingenuous for me.
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You know, all this rah rah stuff is just to get the fans on his side.
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And I'm hoping that's not the case.
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I'm hoping that he actually wants to stay here long term.
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Because the guy as much as we've seen the last three weeks, the guy has been an absolute freak for us.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And the thing that I have you, if you like Joe Douglas would be almost silly not to take phone calls him And I don't think he was, like shopping him, like saying, Yeah, he's you know, what would you give me for the blinds? I think it was more of like guys were calling him like, Hey, is this guy available? And if someone offered you Ah, first in two seconds, I don't see how you can't pull the trigger on.
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Yeah. Oh, I completely agree.
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Chris, thank you so much for calling in.
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I'm going to eject you from the ****pit, so get more people, okay? It's gotta go.
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I gotta do the time.
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I'm not I'm not good with time guys.
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Let's try to keep it to questions.
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That way, O'Leary and I can bounce back and forth.
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I know you usually do the, uh, hold on the phone for a while, but try something new.
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Well, see, I might change that as we get part of the way through.
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Okay.
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Who are you? Who's on the line from? Hello? Welcome to the ****pit.
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What's up, brother? How's it go and not where you come from? It's been great here.
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Wow, that green.
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What's up, dude? Oh, I love O'Leary's content.
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Um, businesses driver for a while.
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Thank you.
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What do you think about getting a quick Williams? I heard someone offer ah King's ransom form, and he's not producing that.
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As O'Leary said in one of the videos, You got third rounders and sixth rounders performing better than him.
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I'll let Matt take it away first.
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Yeah, I I don't know.
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Listen, he hasn't performed well at all so far this year.
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I think he only has one and 1/2 sacks.
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He's been pretty underwhelming for me, but I'm not ready to give up on him yet.
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I've just Yes, I've been cool of fall, expected more from someone who's taken third overall, but I think it really depends on what he does.
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The rest of this year.
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I'll give him another year to develop you Still young.
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It's just his rookie year.
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If we get to next year and it's the same thing, then maybe I'm looking to move him.
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But for right now, I think he's fine for you know what the Jets are using them for, which is basically a rotational piece.
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Yeah, I think so.
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I'd have to look up what the actual cap hits would be, because with that first round contract, I'd kind of be like the Josh Rosen thing, where the Jets would eat a lot of that contract and whoever would get him on the cheap or like out for whatever they trade us.
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They give us a first round pick.
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At least I think, um, they would have him significantly cheaper, and I sauce that.
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I'm gonna try and find it real quick while I have you guys on here.
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But it was something like the amount, like through a certain amount of games.
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This is how many sacks like J.
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J.
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Watt had and collides Campbell, all these other guys, and it really wasn't too far off from quarterback pressure, quarterback hit tackles and *** perspective.
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It's actually Quinn is actually doing all right.
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I'm kicking myself for not actually saving this as a screenshot, but, um yeah, Look, I would I would say I would consider trading Quinn Williams if we were to get, like, a first round pick if it was the first and third.
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Sorry, Quentin, you're out the door like I I'm okay with what we have right now.
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Like I would have taken it depending on captain.
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But next upcoming are usually catch rate.
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For if we had a kid drafted by taking, we need this offensive live video ad rusher.
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I think we have What? Good, Too good quarters? Well, yeah, we have a lot of hold.
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We really d'oh! I mean, you're talking.
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Well, let's let's jump into bless Austin cause I've been wanting to talk about this guy and I really think he has the potential to be starting corner.
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I'm hesitant to say number one corner because I don't trust his health.
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But the guy's got the range and he's got moves.
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He's got the feel of a corner.
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He looks more fluid out there.
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Let me know what you think.
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That they agreed that after calling, and I'm kicking out a ****pit.
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I really liked how he's played.
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The last thing I think is the teams that they're playing.
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What is he here? I want to see a little bit more of him down the stretch.
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I don't want to see anymore Nate Harrison.
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I don't want to really see any more doubt.
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Roberts or Tremaine Johnson.
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Give me more.
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Let give me Maura of bless Austin, and let's see what we have here.
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To me, the injury thing is my biggest concern.
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Like what? It is going to understand the field.
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I think he's only played five games over the last two years, so that is definitely something of concern for May.
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So we'll see that I completely agree.
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Mario from hashtag Sports brother.
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What is up, dude Going on, fellas? Heck of a job going on tonight.
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How do you know what we are? Fantastic.
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We're not as good as your god**** bills.
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Unfortunately, guys, I I have to say at this particular point in time, I love my Sam Darnold.
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But, man, Josh Allen bawling out up there in Buffalo, he is.
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But the thing that was concerning me that's going to concern you guys because concerned the Baltimore Ravens.
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When it happens, it's gonna concern the Cleveland Browns.
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My question for you guys.
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This you guys are 61 million under the cat next year.
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You guys gotta figure out down the line because the builder thing in this, too, we want to sign all these guys.
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However, some of these contracts are gonna bleed into Donald, maybe e.
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A lot of guys are saying that Adam has gone.
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However he's re signed.
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You got mostly enough chunk a chunk of change there.
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What? How do you think like signing these guys would affect? You know the contractor, you're gonna have to eventually get Donald.
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At some point, we'll take this one over because the Jets, since I want to say it's 2010 tonight, I got to start saving these stats on these sorts of things.
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The Jets don't have a first round pick on this team.
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The last first round pick we have are the oldest.
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First trumpet we have is Jamal Adam.
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So if Mom's traded, if he's held on to whatever it is, it's really just him and Sam.
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Plus mostly, those would be the three contracts I'd look at cause look, uh, Tremaine Johnson.
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Oh, sorry.
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Uh, Jermaine Johnson gonna be gone.
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Quinn Lane is not a huge cap.
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It Avery Williamson.
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I wanna hold on to him.
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I think he's worth the $6.
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5 million cap it for next year.
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I think he's I actually think it's 7.
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5 million against the cap, but we'd save 6.5.
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That sounds right.
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I would I would think we'll be all right with Sam.
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My issue is we're gonna wind up paying a ton of money for potentially not getting a lot on his rookie contract.
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Like you look at Patrick Holmes.
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You look at your challenge.
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You look at Lamar Jackson.
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These guys are, like, taking off in their rookie contracts, and their teams are benefiting greatly because this was the year that that should have happened.
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We haven't easier strength of schedule.
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Sam Darnold has not, you know, have the season.
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We want him to have the mono really set us back all the injuries.
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Mary, I don't know if you were still in the chat. We're talking.
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The jets have the most amount of money on I R of any team in the NFL.
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It's like something like $50 million.
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Oh, I believe it. I believe it.
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No question.
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I believe that, Uh, but the one thing that I want to get to you guys and I don't have to do this over for the building stuff these guys are always about connections in the NFL is the one thing I have noticed All the places that gays and Williams have been, I would look there first for guys they may want to pick up in free agency, even if it's on the other side of the ball.
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You talk about gays, heats time, identify some time in Miami.
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A lot of those guys that filtered out, you mean? I mean, Miami took over and then I start getting rid of Guy so gays may May want to get those guys that he's familiar with into his system.
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Even guys on the other side of the ball.
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You want to talk about a guy like Robie or Harris when he was in Denver, as corners that are gonna be up for free agency this offseason.
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Those guys that you may want to bring into the fold and if you sign a Harris saying a Roby.
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Maybe that entices Adams stays a listen, they're helping out.
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In my defense, I don't have to do it all myself because you got a really got.
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You gonna let this kid know that he's gonna get some help at some point or he is gonna be gone? The interesting thing for me, I think is I don't know if Adam's I don't know what happens does this offseason.
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This would be the third year this is it.
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We're in the third year of his rookie deal, so he's allowed to re negotiate his contract after this season, if you want, so we could see a holdout come August.
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And that's tough for me because we have the two more years of him under the rookie contract.
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We can franchise him if we so choose after that, I don't think it's gonna get dragged out that far.
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That's why I think the Jets are going to trade him this year.
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I think, you know, accelerate the offensive line, rebuild and just try to, you know, just do that.
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Accelerate the offensive line, not worry about the 90 $100 million contract, whatever it is, I think, Sam, I'm sure Josh and all those guys, if they wanted being, you know, the second contract kind of guys, they're gonna get close to 200 million.
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It's gonna be, you know, Patrick Mahomes resetting the entire quarterback market, of course, to be anything it could be.
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Absolutely.
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Think I know that.
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So I'll inject myself, right.
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Uh, awesome.
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Good stuff.
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Married.
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Thank you so much for calling in.
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That is my brother over at hashtag Sports.
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I had all these little like displays.
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I think I can add.
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I love it.
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It's fantastic.
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The chicken took me a while to make.
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I have this.
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You don't have a display where I think I have both our names.
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I could put actually under our little Bacchus the good that I should have done earlier.
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I didn't do it.
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Um, So one of the things Mario brought up was contract.
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How much do you think Jamal? Adam's fetches.
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He's going to get paid handsomely.
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And and that's the thing for me.
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I don't know if I want Oh, invest that much money into the strong safety position.
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If you play like you did the last two weeks then? Yeah, maybe it Maybe I will, but it could be a lot of money.
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I completely agree.
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Who the hell's calm, Vinnie, then? What's up, brother? Welcome to the ****pit.
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You know what? How do you feel about the life after last Sunday after, like yesterday? Yep.
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I would say I am happy with how the team looked.
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I'm not I'm not, you know, you know, totally onboard the tank trained tank for traffic.
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I'm happy if it happens, but I'm not, you know, beat up.
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About what? About you.
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You talk to us.
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What are you your kind in that same boat? Well, well, I found the old fight from 1964.
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I'll be honest, I'm a terrible jet ski.
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And I had no idea we had a fight song.
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If it did, I That's news to me.
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But, hey, I got riddle for you, all right? With the last time that just had four consecutive games with an opening drive touchdown.
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Um, I'm not saying never. I agree.
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Never one.
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But let the 1972 with Joe Name is Don Maynard, Rich Castor and Weeb Ewbank.
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All right.
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I would never have gotten that be there and get here? Nothing.
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When was the last time I just had this many facts in three consecutive games? Mmm.
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I wouldn't know.
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We haven't really had a good sack team since 10,006 I guess since we had 1981.
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So it would be the sack exchange? Yeah, that makes sense.
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I mean, that's probably where I would have pegged it.
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Yeah, good gang.
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It was important that the Jets win, but now here, you could be a real pet. You have.
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This is the first of the what I could tell the four real teams left on the schedule.
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I consider Oakland, Baltimore, Pittsburgh and Buffalo as the last real teams left in the schedule.
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I'd put it right on Pittsburgh.
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I don't know what Pittsburgh is right now.
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I know that, but they are, but they're well coached.
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They're well coached.
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I don't like Mike Tomlin.
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I think he's underachieved.
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I think he's under chief since he's been there.
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I think he's I do.
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I'll give him credit because I don't I don't like Antonio Brown and he bottled him up.
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I give a ton of credit for that e.
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I mean, that's that I have to know I'm not a big amount of Big Tomlin fan.
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I think he should have won a Super Bowl, you know, with the roster he's had and the talent has had, I mean, he's the one, the one.
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But it was kind of like, right after Cower left.
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So how have kind of a tough time about that? There's still listen, always very consistent team that they're never like mediocre.
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Yeah.
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Then you Thank you so much for calling in, kicking you out of the ****pit.
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You're here.
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I was doing like I had this little five minute timer itself to your five minute timer. Won.
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Got the two of us on, right? I'm just gonna check people willy nilly.
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Great.
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We got 71 people in the live stream Guys, we got 25.
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This dude knows his stuff, and we're gonna do this more consistently because I really enjoy talking to you.
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Unknown caller from Ricky.
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Rick. What's up? Do welcome to the ****pit.
00:23:02
Hey, was going off.
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Hang in there and talk to us.
00:23:07
Big three Monday.
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Hopefully everybody had a great Monday.
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But let's get to some football, man.
00:23:14
So great win.
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Outstanding.
00:23:16
Go Jets, right? Absolutely.
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But it almost seems like us.
00:23:22
Just fans have cognitive dissidents because we still need to get rid of gays.
00:23:27
And owner strip still needs to get the hell out of Dodge Just because we put to freakin wind together on team that shouldn't even be in the NFL anymore.
00:23:40
You know, this is ridiculous.
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You know, I love that we won.
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I love that.
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You know, this whole thing with the jet? Look, this is gonna happen if something happens, we get blowed out the water by the Raiders.
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It's gonna be the same old song.
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Everybody's gonna be moping, calling for people's heads again, and then we keep playing.
00:24:00
You know, we keep playing the game, we need to send a strong message.
00:24:05
Ownership hate freaking done, playing grab ass over here.
00:24:09
You fix this team, you need to get out.
00:24:12
Look, I agree wth e ownership has been absolutely brutal, and I know I think O'Leary I'm pretty sure you have the, you know, sell the team shirts team, baby.
00:24:21
He's got selling team shirts.
00:24:22
I I just kills me, the Johnson family and maybe I'm just hearing things now.
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But I'm pretty sure I remember hearing at one point that Chris Johnson did not fire or do not want to fire Mike Macagni back when we were looking for a head coach because he did not trust himself to make a head coaching decision.
00:24:42
That's not funny.
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I was like, Is that this is That's what this guy's saying.
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He's saying I don't trust myself to make a head coaching decision So we're gonna let this guy spent $100 million.
00:24:50
We're gonna let him draft all these picks and knew Geom That's crazy.
00:24:56
She hurt, man.
00:24:57
Being a Jet fan is almost a Kirsty.
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You're either born into it or I don't know what happened, dude.
00:25:03
But as only the Johnsons are are at the helm, we're done.
00:25:08
I mean, we're just gonna be put on baby powder for the rest of our freaking lives and and calling the day I understand.
00:25:15
I really just They're not fans there, you know Daddy Warbucks, they have trust funds set up that they just don't buy a football team.
00:25:23
Why not? And then they just get involved.
00:25:26
We get Tebow and we get Brett Farve and we get, you know, stupid people that sense.
00:25:30
And then freaking Peyton Manning screwed us over with you freakin endor*****ts.
00:25:35
Anyway, Dude, I think that move forward.
00:25:39
We'll see how it goes with the Raiders.
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If you stay competitive, if we can pull out that win, we're headed in the right direction.
00:25:47
I'm not expecting much against Baltimore.
00:25:50
Uh, I think our defense will keep us from somewhat post in it, you know? But I think at the end of the day, you know, at 4/4 their quarterback gonna run all over, pull out that wind.
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But my game, I'm really interested.
00:26:10
And I'm gonna stop you for just a 2nd sorry, Veena.
00:26:13
It's for 29 39 7 Donate $2.
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Said Beatles.
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Last concert Newer than Super Bowl three. Matt.
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Oh, my God, That's just depressing.
00:26:22
That hurts, but no.
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So, what were you saying? You think the Ravens are gonna run all over? Is it? Well, yeah.
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You know, 4/4 you can get to the quarterback.
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You already seen what he what he did against the number one defense against the Patriots.
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He's on money quick than that. Different.
00:26:38
Ridiculous I look, I'm okay with Sam Darnold.
00:26:42
I still prefer him over Lamar.
00:26:44
I think Lamar could win a Super Bowl prior to Sam, I think.
00:26:48
Lamar, I think earlier.
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I think that Mars career has a higher chance of being like an eight year, 2 10 year career.
00:26:55
Sam's I could see being a 15 to 20 year career.
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Yeah, I agree with that right now.
00:27:01
Obviously, Lamar looks better right now, but long term, I'm not sure how sustainable his play is for like like you said, like a decade.
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Plus, like I don't know.
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I feel like he's gonna be susceptible to injury with the amount that he runs.
00:27:14
And I think he does a pretty good job right now protecting himself.
00:27:17
But I just don't know because we haven't seen very many quarterbacks like him, So I'm pumping the brakes a little bit.
00:27:24
I think he's great things in one m v p this year, but I'm still okay with Sam.
00:27:28
I'm right there with you.
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Yeah, Thegame.
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I think I'm interested and seeing before, you know, like to really gauge where were asked for the end of the season is against the Steelers just because I see so much similarity between our team.
00:27:45
Okay, talk to me how you show way better than our quarterbacks way better than I know what I mean.
00:27:55
You see the way freaking Adam is playing out of the people.
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He took two more games like this.
00:28:01
You might end up freaking being defensive player of the year here.
00:28:06
He has to do with the rest of season, cause I still think the boast of brothers are still leading the train on that. Nick Bos is just incredible.
00:28:12
He's not gonna win defense Rookie of the year.
00:28:13
He's done when defense of M. V. P. That's very good.
00:28:18
Yeah, so I don't know.
00:28:19
I just think the Steelers is a good gauge because they got a rookie quarterback.
00:28:26
He might be out of game or two, depending on how this plays out with the whole Cleveland deal, but, oh, no, I think that's gonna be a good measuring stick for where we're at because, you know, when we started the year that first game against the Bills if we would have beat them, do the narrative would have been very different.
00:28:46
Completely great year.
00:28:47
Yeah, I think so.
00:28:49
Boom.
00:28:50
Dude, I have ejected from the ****pit, but we gotta do that.
00:28:57
We're gonna move on to next person who's talking who we got in the chat.
00:29:00
We got Doug last Kevin Durant V Man, sports fan.
00:29:04
Uh, Justin Levin.
00:29:06
My Knicks are looking good for once.
00:29:08
I'm not watching the game, so I apologize.
00:29:11
Did they lose yesterday? By that point? It was two days ago.
00:29:13
I don't know that I'm not into the n b A.
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I couldn't tell you I'm so bad with this.
00:29:19
79 people in the in this. I like it.
00:29:23
All right.
00:29:25
Um, what do you think about the defense? Do you think we'll never mind? Sorry.
00:29:31
Call from O J L J.
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What's up, dude? Welcome to the ****pit.
00:29:38
Well, you picked up.
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Yeah, that's you've had.
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What's on your mind? No, no. Go trip.
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Always.
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I like it.
00:29:47
As you said home, I hope just in my head.
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But, I mean, I'm here when I think of you.
00:29:57
Um, two more Adams.
00:30:00
I think that is a great defensive Peacefulness now, do you think, based on his tweets and everything that he said at the trade deadline, Do you think he's trying to formulate a way out or have a back door out after? Not about? Yeah.
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Look, I'm not No, I have.
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I have a hard time believing in Jamal.
00:30:29
It's because I blocked his jersey.
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I like. I love the guy.
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I believed in everything he had up until the trade deadline and came to a screeching halt for me.
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I really think that maybe it's not.
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He wants out.
00:30:42
Maybe it's He wants to get paid so much money that he did that to have it out so he can get out and that, you know, maybe is a little more respectable.
00:30:51
I don't know you about your new work.
00:30:57
Quincy's done.
00:30:58
I think I don't think he'll ever play another ship.
00:31:00
Now I do think that we will have to designate him a June 1st cut because he's gonna have a certain man, a cap space because he's actually you guaranteed for injury next year's contract.
00:31:12
I'm pretty sure so if he doesn't clear, you know, whatever tests wherever he's got to do, I think I think we have to pay miss full salary, in which case is a June 1st cut.
00:31:23
And I'll spread the cap over two years.
00:31:25
But I think, God, I don't know.
00:31:28
What do you think? About what? You think you ever plays again? Um, I do not think that he plays again, because I don't think that he's phoning with Joe Douglas.
00:31:38
Coach, I don't think Course this case has done a bad thing.
00:31:43
Uh, because you noticed what he has around him.
00:31:47
What? He has to work.
00:31:49
He make a video while we're going against Lord to your change.
00:31:53
But you make it with what you have.
00:31:56
I look, I'm encouraged by what I've seen recently from Adam Gates.
00:32:00
I'm cautiously optimistic.
00:32:02
I want to see it against the rest of schedule.
00:32:04
You know, if what we heard from Chris Johnson is true, Gates will be back for 2020.
00:32:09
He's gonna be here for all or at least part of next year.
00:32:13
So let's see what we can get out of him for the rest of you and I you know, I think there's probably something to be said for us.
00:32:20
Not getting rid of them won because we'd be paying three head coaches.
00:32:23
I've said that before, but to weigh the same, you keep the same system.
00:32:29
That's a big thing.
00:32:30
I hear a lot of people say I also hear you know, you fire coach After one year, you don't support him halfway through the season, if you, Chris Johnson, were to say, Oh, we'll see after the season, no head coach is gonna want to go to the Jets after what Adam cases had to go through with the injuries.
00:32:43
I'm just curious to see if his training regimen is what's causing injuries.
00:32:47
Cause you had a bunch injuries in Miami to like, is something he doing something He doing good words is something that he does in training camp or whatever he's doing, causing these injuries.
00:32:59
We just do not get blessed water.
00:33:02
Our shining like normal.
00:33:03
Right now you talk about small arms or Adam Adam case.
00:33:07
No home.
00:33:08
Um, blessing on, Um Oh, awesome.
00:33:11
Okay, look, if he fingers crossed, if this dude could turn into a locked down corner, if you just turn into a starter that's huge.
00:33:19
Just a starter is huge.
00:33:21
If he could turn into like, ah locked down, stud.
00:33:26
I don't know what to do.
00:33:27
Oh, great.
00:33:28
Up site.
00:33:29
I mean, we got rid of our turnaround for nothing.
00:33:32
Well, I was so wrong on Jack.
00:33:35
I polite so wrong.
00:33:37
They're wicked.
00:33:38
I was I thought he looked like a clown.
00:33:42
I wouldn't sell you wouldn't want to be something.
00:33:44
And, uh, he just wouldn't I should play football.
00:33:50
Do what you're supposed to.
00:33:51
Dude, I completely agree with polite has been a total bust.
00:33:54
I don't even know if it's even on a team right now. He got cut from Seattle.
00:33:57
He's out of the league along Jim. Okay.
00:34:01
I'm pretty sure your mother Jeanne, that that is it's terrible.
00:34:06
Dude, thank you so much for calling in my little.
00:34:08
I gotta get a little hot button for this ejector seat.
00:34:13
Just moving on a long few phone calls, checking a chat every now and then.
00:34:18
I wouldn't spend money on Sheriff Danda.
00:34:20
Panda.
00:34:21
Look, I don't know what to think about Sheriff.
00:34:23
I don't know if he's actually going to hit free agency.
00:34:24
I think Washington's actually gonna resign him.
00:34:28
I'd want him, though.
00:34:29
I think he's one of the better right guards in the game, I think, is significantly better than Brian Winters.
00:34:33
And we have to help Donald.
00:34:34
So he would be my top top free agent.
00:34:42
It's what we got going on.
00:34:45
Uh, who would you guys cut this off season and signed this offseason? Nick Massi.
00:34:51
I would say first cut right off the best train.
00:34:54
Johnson get out of 100%.
00:34:56
He's gotta go.
00:34:57
Brian Winters out here.
00:35:00
Transit Dow Roberts.
00:35:01
Another big one gun.
00:35:03
Those were easy.
00:35:04
I would bring back, um, the punter.
00:35:08
I don't know what we have to give him.
00:35:09
I'm happy with what he's done so far.
00:35:11
I think he's actually been one of the better punters in the league.
00:35:14
Um, kicker, I'm totally up in the air for kicker.
00:35:18
I don't care if we keep thinking or not from then there a panda.
00:35:25
Oh, man.
00:35:26
Danda Panda.
00:35:27
What's up, dude? Hey, I mean, long time not calling in.
00:35:34
Yeah, what's on your mind? Why, for the common English ship is Washington didn't pick up your option.
00:35:46
They did pick up his fifth year option because this is his fifth year.
00:35:50
Yeah, because he was drafted the same year as Leonard Williams and Leonard Williams on your arm.
00:35:55
You're wrong.
00:35:59
I I read their trade down and get to the conference center.
00:36:05
Good play, center and guard rather than spending money.
00:36:10
I rather I rather spend the money on attacking.
00:36:13
I think we're gonna have to do both because, I mean, look, I don't know if there's a good left tackle heading the market.
00:36:18
I think I say either Taylor from long Taylor from Tennessee that I think is a free agent.
00:36:25
And I think there's a guy fronted the Eagles is Lane Johnson, maybe free agent.
00:36:31
I don't remember off the time I had, but there aren't many big time free.
00:36:35
Easy an offensive lineman in the market.
00:36:37
I don't think Yeah, that's my big thing.
00:36:40
That's why Sheriff is gonna be such a sought after piece, right? If he hits the market, I think gotta break the bank forum, especially if you're able to create more cap space by cutting guys like Johnson.
00:36:51
And you know the guys you just ran through winters and stuff like that.
00:36:55
I think you gotta go for, you know, a big position to need on the old line whom you've got ejected.
00:37:04
Sorry.
00:37:05
Couldn't hear you, and you're wrong.
00:37:07
Thank you for calling.
00:37:09
I appreciate it. And a panda.
00:37:10
I'll talk to you again.
00:37:12
The issue.
00:37:13
So we got t Jazz junior saying we aren't getting sheriff.
00:37:16
I think the biggest issue with us getting sheriff is that free agents get to choose where they want to go.
00:37:20
I don't think the Jets are gonna be a desirable location.
00:37:22
I think we have a very tough time getting for you to come here.
00:37:25
Yeah, you're probably right with that.
00:37:27
I would not be surprised at all if they're not able.
00:37:30
Thio draw.
00:37:31
I mean, this teams have been bad for a while, So you call from Uh huh.
00:37:38
Matt, What's up, dude? Welcome to the ****pit.
00:37:40
What's up? So would So it's really the probably If you had to redo our 20 between 19 drafted, I would definitely go with.
00:37:56
It's either gonna be Josh Allen, the past rusher, or I would have I wish we knew what we could have gotten in a trade down cause I would have if the tackle that the Eagles got, um What the hell's his name? I think they got a good tackling.
00:38:12
I can't. I think it was from old Miss.
00:38:14
I would anybody lining Based on what I saw out of the offense.
00:38:17
Linemen, I think I would have tried to take someone.
00:38:19
Although I think John Williams, which is who a lot of people were talking about, really did not play.
00:38:23
Well, you got hurt.
00:38:24
Yeah, he got hurt, so I So I think I was in prison.
00:38:27
I don't think we ever got to see him play No preview.
00:38:30
Yeah, I don't know.
00:38:31
So I would, Let's say, Josh, Alan, in the first round in third round, you take win a *****.
00:38:35
I think that's probably what you want to do. It E o.
00:38:38
R.
00:38:39
Instead of polite Edoga in the third round.
00:38:42
I don't know many of the players beyond that, and he's been serviceable at right tackle.
00:38:47
I would never put in a left tackle again.
00:38:48
I think you're only good on that right tackle.
00:38:51
I would try him at right guard.
00:38:54
If, like Shell can hold this like I would play with all the pieces.
00:38:57
I think Compton is looking pretty good at right guard right now for Winters.
00:39:00
I think Louis is looking pretty good at left guard for assembly.
00:39:04
now that assembly is gone.
00:39:06
I don't know.
00:39:08
It's me, the big gosh, Alan, in the first round, That's so that's the pick that I wanted from the gecko.
00:39:12
And I I'm not gonna get over that one any time soon.
00:39:16
I was so wrong on him to like, Look, I trusted whoever we chose on defense because of Greg Williams.
00:39:24
I preferred Quinn.
00:39:26
Well, which I say I should say I preferred Nick Bosa.
00:39:29
Then I preferred trade down.
00:39:31
Then was Quentin Williams over Josh on? And that was just because Josh on ran free all the time in college.
00:39:35
And I was like, Oh, you know what I've seen? I'm seeing a fake pass rusher.
00:39:40
It's totally this guy, your guy polite, So much better because, you know he's got spin moves.
00:39:45
Is that swim moves? And I could not have been more wrong.
00:39:47
Andrew Dondre Dylan.
00:39:48
That was the guy that the Eagles got.
00:39:50
Thank you for traveling to chat.
00:39:53
Um, yeah, I think the big 1st 1 would be obviously Josh Allen over Quinn and Williams.
00:40:01
Yeah, I think so.
00:40:02
It's a big yoga guys, for the future is in.
00:40:05
Yon could use from West Virginia I think he's pretty good.
00:40:09
I haven't washed anything about him.
00:40:10
I don't know anything.
00:40:14
I think Just take, like, two picks right after.
00:40:16
Okay.
00:40:17
Very interesting.
00:40:19
What else is on your mind? What do you think? That small Adams.
00:40:23
Oh, I think he's once in a generation like like, uh, demeanor.
00:40:31
But I don't know if you build around strong safety.
00:40:34
I think that's what's tough for me.
00:40:35
I think you can get, you know, 85% of the production you've gotten from Jamal over the course of his three years for pennies on the dollar.
00:40:44
That's the biggest thing.
00:40:45
I mean, like, I think it could bring in a strong safety for call it $5 million a year.
00:40:51
Whatever is $8 million a year at most.
00:40:53
And I think you could get relatively similar production rather than paying Jamal Adam's 15 million year Whatever he's looking for six years like nearly $20 million probably is gonna talk to himself is like a a pass rusher slash cornerback.
00:41:08
He's this hybrid peace.
00:41:09
What's he going to get? I don't know.
00:41:10
I mean, what did uh, what's his face get columns? Elena.
00:41:13
Colleges got like, six years. 75 million.
00:41:15
80 million.
00:41:17
80.
00:41:19
It's absolutely nuts.
00:41:21
Thanks so much for calling in thistles.
00:41:28
Great.
00:41:29
I got I got to get, like, a little, like button boards.
00:41:31
Just push the button.
00:41:32
Rather trying to drag my ass around for these things.
00:41:34
What else you got going on trash? Colin Harrison is actually better guard.
00:41:40
Uh, I think it's better at center right now cause Khalil blows and is injured.
00:41:46
Truth that I was very wrong on that.
00:41:48
I thought he'd be a confident center.
00:41:50
Khalil.
00:41:51
Yeah, so was I mean, look, I'll admit I don't mind missing on Cleo.
00:41:55
I like that we went out of our way to pull a guy out of retirement rather than trying to find a free agent or anything like that.
00:42:01
Like, I think he think Joe Douglas did the right thing turning over every stone.
00:42:05
Grandpa.
00:42:07
Grandpa Mark, Welcome to the ****pit.
00:42:11
Your mama's gotta go.
00:42:13
Jimmy has got to go.
00:42:14
Grandpa Mark, are you a subscriber of Matt O'Leary? Of course I am.
00:42:19
I subscribe to Mr O'Leary, I think when he had about 60 subscribers.
00:42:25
Wow.
00:42:27
Realize what? Eh? For a while, I don't come and much.
00:42:30
Matt But, Matt, I got to tell you, I love you.
00:42:34
I love you Content.
00:42:36
I believe you're a long island boy, which correct? So it's, uh, match jets and Islanders.
00:42:44
And I'm gonna be looking forward to a lot of Good Island.
00:42:46
Their content in the future.
00:42:48
Yes, there.
00:42:49
Appreciate it.
00:42:50
Thank you so much, but yeah, Jamal's got to go.
00:42:54
I don't want to hear any of this.
00:42:56
He's a generational type player.
00:42:59
He's gonna be them. VP.
00:43:01
All right, Who has get the judge if he can? Some high draft picks and some good draft takes.
00:43:12
I gotta go.
00:43:14
The foundation of this team has been a shambles, and I am talking about the offensive line.
00:43:19
It's been a shambles for years.
00:43:22
That is the number one priority.
00:43:24
And if we can get some good Like I said, if we can get some good picks, the Adams, he's got to go and I'm gonna say the same thing about Levian Bell.
00:43:33
They all gotta go.
00:43:36
I'm not as against the lady on Belle thing, as I probably wants Waas.
00:43:40
I definitely I'm more on board with holding on to him at least for another year, just to see what he can do behind a good offensive line.
00:43:48
I mean, look, if we can get, you know, something a little more substantial for him, I don't think we'll get a whole lot because he's a high priced running back.
00:43:55
But, you know, maybe the Jets could eat some of this contract at higher draft pick.
00:43:59
Similar to the way the Browns took on Brock Osweiler.
00:44:02
You know, taking on a heavy contract, getting a draft pick.
00:44:05
Something to that only slightly reversed.
00:44:08
Let me ask you something.
00:44:10
Why is, um why is kind Montgomery on this team? I don't know.
00:44:17
It's I think we're all on the same page with this.
00:44:20
I don't see why this guy's not getting the ball.
00:44:22
He looked good in preseason.
00:44:23
He looked like he was going to be sharing the load with lady on Belle.
00:44:27
And we haven't seen remotely, you know anything close to that? Well, all I know is I am a very happy Jets fan.
00:44:35
All I know is I think I can you be.
00:44:38
Have you guys heard anything about, uh what? The story is with my old friend Brecht.
00:44:43
A volley.
00:44:44
Is he on? I r is even let go.
00:44:46
Does anybody know? I think he's on I r.
00:44:48
I'm pretty sure he's been on i r since, like, preseason.
00:44:51
Okay, Well, like I said, I'm a very happy fan of Ali's.
00:44:56
Still on I r Brian Winters is on i r.
00:45:00
And hopefully he will be gone.
00:45:03
So look, I can't leave.
00:45:05
We've won two games in a row, so right now I'm a happy camper.
00:45:12
So are you ever gonna be on the tank and get a good linemen train? Are you like, Hey, I want the judge to go 97 right now.
00:45:22
What? Nine.
00:45:24
And hey, you know, obviously look, you go nine and seven.
00:45:28
You want the 19 7 But do you wanna win the games that people come draft time? I'm gonna say, Oh, we want that meaningless game against Washington.
00:45:34
We wait, that money meaningless game against the Giants.
00:45:37
And you know, that tackle that we really wanted was picked to picks up ahead of us because of it.
00:45:42
Well, you want to know? Look, I don't believe this whole.
00:45:46
I don't believe that.
00:45:47
Look, everybody's saying Miami's tanking and they're trying to lose on purpose.
00:45:53
No, they're not.
00:45:56
They're really not they think they are.
00:45:58
I mean, you still want to win these games.
00:46:00
But as far as far as the Jets, it concerns Um, no, I don't want to tank and we're definitely not going to go nine and seven.
00:46:13
No, definitely not.
00:46:14
Look, I think five and 11 probably.
00:46:17
I mean, I just want them look, A win is a win.
00:46:20
If we win two more games, If we win three more games, it is what it is and we pick as best we can or we trade down or will you know, hopefully, Douglas told something out of his hat, and, uh, he makes something happen with the draft, and hopefully it'll draft wisely.
00:46:38
But no, I don't want to see is not win another game.
00:46:42
I completely great.
00:46:43
I gotta take one quick thing.
00:46:44
V Man, 29 39 7 donated $5 says my high school in Peekskill was the Jets training camp from 1963 to 1968.
00:46:54
In fact, one of the teachers in my high school had the players jump in his pool.
00:46:59
That's awesome.
00:47:00
That's incredible.
00:47:02
There's ah who jumped in the pool.
00:47:05
The players, not in his pool in one of his high school teachers.
00:47:07
Pulls back in the 63 to 68 range.
00:47:11
And that's ridiculous.
00:47:16
Okay, it's kind of really do donate five bucks.
00:47:19
Hell, yeah. I'm gonna read it.
00:47:21
Five bucks a lot of fun.
00:47:25
So, Grandpa Mark, what do you think? Uh, of Quinn and Williams.
00:47:29
You think we trade him? No, he's a rookie.
00:47:34
What, you gonna trade him after one season? Let me ask you guys this.
00:47:38
Do you think that there's any possibility that Quentin Williams is still nursing that ankle injury? Yeah, I think so.
00:47:46
If it was a high ankle in high sprain like high high ankle sprain that takes a while to come back from and being the type, I guess high ankle sprain, regardless of position, is probably bad.
00:47:59
Maybe you get away with it if it's you're, like, not dominant foot as a maybe alignment or something like that.
00:48:05
But I don't know.
00:48:06
I I'm hoping that's the issue.
00:48:09
I hope it's like I I honestly, I honestly think that that's playing a big part of why he's not why he's not performing the way we're expecting him to.
00:48:20
I really think that he still is embarrassing that a little bit.
00:48:24
I agree.
00:48:25
Now, what do you think? Are you on the fire? Gays train? What do you think about his play calling? The last few weeks? Look, I've said it once.
00:48:34
I've said it a 1,000,000 times.
00:48:36
I never like gays.
00:48:37
I never liked the higher I don't like a style of offense.
00:48:42
I don't like I don't like the work guru.
00:48:45
I don't like any of that crap.
00:48:48
I look, I'm the way I see it is, I want somebody to take the Jets back to the way they were whenever they want, Uh, solid offensive line, smash mouth football and dominant defense.
00:49:04
That's that's what I like.
00:49:05
I like old time football, this new stuff in the cases system and whatever.
00:49:11
I have no stomach for it whatsoever.
00:49:13
And yes, I think you should be fired.
00:49:16
I love it.
00:49:17
Yeah, I completely great.
00:49:19
Now what is your take on Dowell Loggains looking like Patton Oswalt Looks exactly like the **** back.
00:49:28
I heard that You want to know something again? I think about it.
00:49:32
Doesn't look like it looks exactly like him.
00:49:35
Somebody said, you know Dowell Loggains sucks.
00:49:37
I was like.
00:49:38
Well, I got to bring this up now because this is like, it's too ridiculous.
00:49:42
If you don't know who Patton Oswald is.
00:49:44
You guys that are on YouTube to 72.
00:49:45
You guys watching? Just open up a side tab, type in Oswald Patton, and you'll be like, Oh, my God, He's our office coordinator slash running back car lineman or climbing coach or whatever.
00:49:56
Last challenge, man.
00:49:57
Very funny.
00:49:58
Very funny.
00:49:59
He doesn't look like he does, but all right, I'll let you go take some more calls and, uh, O'Leary You're gonna be going places, buddy.
00:50:08
I'm telling you, I appreciate that, man.
00:50:11
That's really nice of you.
00:50:13
All right. Have a good night, gentlemen.
00:50:15
Take it easy, Grandpa.
00:50:17
Mark everyone.
00:50:19
I love me some Grandpa Mark.
00:50:21
Yeah, I'm thinking we might have to do.
00:50:24
We were talking about doing some more jets, uh, panel type stuff.
00:50:29
We had talked without Thio.
00:50:30
Howie over address h Q and a gangrene.
00:50:34
David. So we're going to the four of us doing this.
00:50:36
I'd like to work on something that we can get, you know, all four of us on or do some type of game show, maybe we bring in like, you know, I've been talking some Dolphins guys.
00:50:46
Doug Lee doo doo Wrong.
00:50:48
Don't we do something or other Miami Dolphins fan talking him? Hash exports is always fun coming on here.
00:50:54
I'm sure the entertainer and those guys would probably come on at some point.
00:50:58
I'd like to figure out some way to do some kind of game and figure out how many people it works with.
00:51:03
Or if it's just one big panel that we just talk over each other and the No. One minds appearing anything.
00:51:08
I feel like it's more of the ladder.
00:51:11
That's probably probably true, I think O'Leary and I and you guys let us know in the comments.
00:51:16
If you want to see us, do Maur Dudley do right that has Dudley do wrong that if you guys want to see O'Leary and I do more stuff together, guys, I've reached out to Jet Center.
00:51:27
I see Manny Roman over there saying Jet Central in did not want to do our little thing, that we were trying to get together.
00:51:36
I've been too busy to actually attempt to do this anyway, but if you guys want to see more of me and O'Leary.
00:51:42
Let me know, because this is something I like doing, like 11.
00:51:47
Magnus? Magnus.
00:51:50
What's up, dude? Welcome to ****pit.
00:51:52
Well, Sub Brian.
00:51:55
Ah, you know, another day, another dollar.
00:51:57
What's on your mind, brother? You're here.
00:51:59
You I just wanted to get off my chest a little bit about Adam case.
00:52:04
What do you want? I would might be one of the few.
00:52:07
Just a and actually have faith in Adam gave.
00:52:10
Okay, Talk to me.
00:52:12
We'll hear it out. No.
00:52:14
Now I do see that a lot of people want to fire him.
00:52:18
But like what? People really expect going into the season.
00:52:21
Like people expect our records feeling what, 10 and 697 relating.
00:52:27
We we weren't gonna Realistically, we go and get a gold.
00:52:29
I'm just being honest.
00:52:32
No, look, I thought an optimistic outlook for us was probably 10 and six.
00:52:36
I figured we'd probably around eight and eight and right, I think based on the injuries and what I've seen and having Sam Darnold go out, all this difference off that's happened.
00:52:45
I think whatever Kurt came in would have failed this season, and I don't think we would have had many wins, although I will say this.
00:52:53
I think the team would have looked more prepared than what we have looked like under gaze up until last two games.
00:52:58
So it's really are returning a corner right now.
00:53:01
Or are we just seeing bottom feeders play each other now? How could help? Prepared like I don't know how prepared any other coach would have got a look, folks, team what I would look I agree.
00:53:15
Final Five Office line.
00:53:17
I I really have a hard time.
00:53:20
Police.
00:53:21
Even the top head coach is granted.
00:53:22
We couldn't put up a bigger playing a silly game.
00:53:24
Okay, that understand.
00:53:26
But look, forget the home in our patchwork of an officer line we have, I don't know, like, regardless, he would have been lost.
00:53:37
Look, I think this team was gonna be bad.
00:53:40
Regardless, I think there was no no way that we could have sustained all these injuries With the lack of depth we have and been successful this season, I think gaze deserves I don't think I think it's tough to fire gays based on what we've seen, you know, as faras.
00:53:57
Like I'm grading him based on his time Miami, which probably isn't fair to an extent, either.
00:54:03
But then you look at you know, Tannehill on Tanna, Helen and the Titans is looking pretty good right now.
00:54:09
You know, Sam looked like he regressed up until the last two weeks from last season.
00:54:14
So it's It's tough for me to grade much about the Jets right now, but when the Dolphins did have a healthy roster with hanging home tennis at Q B, B didn't make the playoffs.
00:54:26
You got to remember that.
00:54:28
Yeah, did they? I look, I think they have the I think that's not gonna tenant six, right? And they got blown out by the Steelers in the wild card game.
00:54:36
Yeah, did was that 1 10 He'll got her, or did he get hurt the following year? Hey, missed a couple.
00:54:42
I know.
00:54:43
I went to a game in 2016 where Matt Moore destroyed the Jets on like a Saturday night.
00:54:46
That's it.
00:54:48
That's terrible.
00:54:51
Look, I don't know.
00:54:52
I think I look, I agree.
00:54:53
I think gays deserves the benefit of the doubt.
00:54:56
We know he's coming back for next year.
00:54:58
At least right now, let's see what Joe Douglas can do how Joe Douglas thinks his scouting background.
00:55:08
Well, look, I completely agree.
00:55:09
If you look at Joe Douglas and he's got the scouting background, he's he's drafted to Hall of Fame caliber offensive lineman Dillard looks like he's going to be pretty good for the Eagles.
00:55:19
I think if if Douglas feels like he can hit online and we got loose and got Compton for pretty cheap, I don't know if we did we get Compton with Douglas or was he, you know, was he wouldn't magnet.
00:55:32
I think Macagni he might have been a Cabinet.
00:55:35
So we got Lewis and Lewis has been playing well so far, and that was for, like, nothing.
00:55:39
So if we can, if he thinks Hey, look, I know where I could get offensive lineman.
00:55:42
I don't need to spend a high caliber pick on him.
00:55:45
That's when you take a stud wide receiver or cornerback or something like that in the first round.
00:55:49
If this guy believes in his scouting potential and who he could bring in for the offensive line, thank you.
00:55:55
Oh, line's gonna be the big thing.
00:55:57
Thank you so much for calling in.
00:55:59
Appreciate it.
00:56:01
Definitely calling again. I apologize.
00:56:03
I didn't give you any heads up.
00:56:08
I've got going on in the chat.
00:56:12
People talk about lady on TV.
00:56:13
Traded Jared Judy Better to win momentum into next year.
00:56:19
Yeah, I completely agree.
00:56:21
I would definitely.
00:56:23
I would like to see his way because the more we win, the more faith I have in Adam Gaze for next year.
00:56:27
The more faith I have in Sam Darnold moving forward like I am 110% behind some Donald.
00:56:32
And if yeah, if If Donald fails, I believe it's fully on the Jets.
00:56:36
Like, I think this guy's legit.
00:56:38
Yeah, he's got all the talent.
00:56:39
I'm with you, Paul from Peter.
00:56:43
Peter, Peter, pumpkin eater.
00:56:46
Welcome to the car.
00:56:47
And how you doing that? But see that? What's going on? Not much, man.
00:56:52
Same old man.
00:56:53
I'm just excited about the wind, especially for the fact that I attended the game yesterday.
00:56:57
No, I like it. Very cool.
00:56:59
So you got tickets? How much you pay for two years, cause I heard rumors there were, like, $30 tickets.
00:57:03
I want my buddies go down there, Actually, yeah, depending what you want said the bottom was between 45 50 bucks that I'm actually going to the Jets Raiders game this weekend.
00:57:14
Okay.
00:57:15
The bear cats Binghamton, where I went to college.
00:57:17
They have an alumni ticket sale kind of thing.
00:57:20
So I got tickets and tailgate for, like, 40 bucks.
00:57:22
So I got to go deal on the field like that.
00:57:24
Yeah, That's too bad.
00:57:25
I'm waiting for the tickets to go down as cheap as thief $5 or $13 beers or whatever they did last year.
00:57:31
Yeah, that will eventually happen. Maybe.
00:57:34
No. Look, I'm excited.
00:57:35
What do you think about this upcoming game at the Raiders? Based on what you saw in Washington, what do the Jets did? Just have a chance against the Raiders.
00:57:44
If the old line can protect sand on all the way they did yesterday, then yes, because the Raiders, they cannot.
00:57:50
They're running.
00:57:51
Defense is terrible.
00:57:53
Now, I do think the Raiders are better than we've seen that they've played.
00:57:57
I think the hardest strength of schedule, if I'm not mistaken, actually do a little like I've heard That too.
00:58:04
Let me check in the next two after us.
00:58:07
They're supposed to play Kansas City and Tennessee totally wrong he was recently.
00:58:12
The last few weeks is their screams.
00:58:14
Strength of schedule is not very good.
00:58:16
It's actually a 0.
00:58:17
457 The Jets is 0.
00:58:20
48 once we've actually harder schedule kind of bananas for me.
00:58:24
I thought we were way lower the notice.
00:58:27
It has flip flopped on us.
00:58:30
I don't know.
00:58:32
So you think Who? I don't know who's on the Raiders anymore.
00:58:34
I know Josh Jacobs. I know Derek Carr.
00:58:36
I don't know if I could tell.
00:58:37
You know Antonio Brown's not.
00:58:40
Yeah, well, the tight end has had a great year. Waller.
00:58:44
I do know that I knew the title was doing well.
00:58:46
I didn't know what his name was.
00:58:47
I don't watch many of the West Coast games I really like.
00:58:51
I wanted to keep watching like a jet game, and I'm like, I'm just so tired of seeing bad football on then.
00:58:55
I like don't feel like watching too many other games you wanted watching like the Thursday night game in the money Nick.
00:59:00
Oh, yeah, Also, now that we're talking about West Coast and all that 60% at the time, West Coast teams don't really play that good when they have to travel to the East Coast.
00:59:08
That's true.
00:59:09
And that's the same one thing when you do East Coast to West Coast, West Coast, I think, is worse because a one o'clock in for them is now.
00:59:18
Technique. Yeah, it's three hours.
00:59:20
It's a three hour difference in college.
00:59:22
Yeah, that's that throws you for a loop, for sure.
00:59:25
I don't know where they played.
00:59:26
See, this is such a waste of a jet season for me because it's like we had the easiest strength of schedule.
00:59:30
Tom Brady's another year older.
00:59:32
He doesn't have Gronkowski.
00:59:33
They don't have.
00:59:34
You know, the Jets are traveling.
00:59:36
I think the furthest West we go is the Bangles, and I'm not worried about that.
00:59:41
Ah, we were just This schedule was set up perfectly for a good season.
00:59:44
We have more talent than we had last year.
00:59:46
Sam **** was another year older, and the fact that we got more from Todd Bowles we're getting from Adam Gaze is so frustrating.
00:59:55
For me, it is man.
00:59:58
But you know what, man? I believe in this team and the same momentum we had yesterday is the same moment we gotta keep.
01:00:05
Do you know, it's not gonna be easy, But at the same time, we've got all gotta stay positive, you know me.
01:00:09
So we got magnets.
01:00:10
Hansen in the chat saying Tyrell Williamsfirst bless Austin is the matchup to watch.
01:00:15
That's phenomenal. I forgot.
01:00:17
Tyrone Williams is over there.
01:00:18
I was big Tyrell Williams fan.
01:00:19
I actually wanted the Jets to sign him.
01:00:20
I didn't think we were gonna get him, but big wide receiver was from the Chargers went toe Oakland this past offseason.
01:00:28
And if Austin can cover, Tyrone Williams will know just what kind of corner Austin is at least like more than we have the last two weeks.
01:00:38
Like I don't trust anything we saw last two weeks out of Austin.
01:00:41
You know, basically, you're saying this game will determine where we really are.
01:00:45
Yeah, I think this is more of a litmus test than you know.
01:00:47
The last few games have been for sure.
01:00:50
Yeah, definitely.
01:00:51
When you look at it, I mean, the Raiders are more complete team.
01:00:53
I think if the season ended today, they'd be the 60.
01:00:56
No, the Raiders would be just had it up. Mother.
01:01:02
Um, yeah, I think the succeed so that you're right or not.
01:01:08
They would not be the succeed.
01:01:09
So as it stands right now, uh, New England, San Francisco would be the one seeds.
01:01:17
The two seeds would be Baltimore In New Orleans.
01:01:20
The three seeds would be Seattle and Buffalo.
01:01:24
Then you have Green Bay and more Houston will be.
01:01:30
Will be Kansas City and Dallas would be Kansas.
01:01:33
Well, on the side of the Kansas City and the Colts would be the wild card where no one would be Buffalo.
01:01:42
Buffalo would be awhile.
01:01:43
I'm sorry. I'm reading it wrong. I'm trying to kind of re tank.
01:01:45
A fun, I think, opens just outside.
01:01:49
Yeah, so? So the Colts would be a Yeah.
01:01:54
The Colts would be a wild card.
01:01:56
The Bills would be a wild card.
01:01:58
The Kansas City Chiefs would be division winner.
01:02:01
Houston Texans would be a division winner.
01:02:03
New England and Baltimore would be the division winners in the A F C.
01:02:06
Oakland's just sitting on the outside along with the Titans, so the Titans are 55 Oakland six and four.
01:02:14
The wild card teams are six and four as well, so they're all tied up top that sort of fresh.
01:02:20
They're decent point if we want.
01:02:22
If we want to have, like, a little bit of faith, Kansas City needs to do thus the favor, like right now and take care of the charges.
01:02:31
So if we're talking, Look, I think the Jets are gonna have so many tiebreakers going against him between the Browns, the Patriots, the bills, you know, Jacksonville, all these losses that we have, Even if the Jets turn around, we got seven losses.
01:02:45
But you know what? Let me put it to you this way.
01:02:47
I was looking at the court schedule earlier today, and they've already lost to Miami.
01:02:53
They lost the Pittsburgh and they lost generators.
01:02:56
And that still happens that we met.
01:02:57
We played the We play these three teams.
01:02:59
Okay, Okay, that's fair.
01:03:01
Look, you know, lose them losing to the dolphins.
01:03:04
Although they didn't have her set in, you know, gives us hope.
01:03:09
I guess maybe the tiebreaker goes our way.
01:03:11
I mean, we're still we're still thinking fifth right now, and what's crazy is dude, I don't know if we win.
01:03:19
If we would end up winning, and then I had to have to look at what the schedule is coming up, but we'd fall from fifth down to the 10th pick.
01:03:26
So re probably 97.
01:03:28
Might get you into a wild card this year in the A C.
01:03:31
I don't think the FCC outside of the top three in the A f C.
01:03:35
That's where it's gonna be.
01:03:36
It's gonna be New England, Baltimore or the Chiefs are gonna represent the F C 100.
01:03:41
I don't think anyone stand.
01:03:43
Let me put it to you guys this way.
01:03:45
The Kansas City's defense is terrible.
01:03:47
And Otto even thing that could make a strong like they did last year.
01:03:51
You have the patron.
01:03:52
Holmes is so good.
01:03:53
That's just joining you from the ****pit just because I didn't like that.
01:03:56
Ah, thank you.
01:04:00
I appreciate it.
01:04:01
Um, look, I think the A.
01:04:05
F.
01:04:06
C.
01:04:07
Is gonna go through New England.
01:04:08
It's gonna go through cancer.
01:04:09
He's gonna go through Baltimore.
01:04:11
And I think Baltimore is just one of those teams that's just so explosive.
01:04:14
Never count out Lamar Jackson.
01:04:16
What he's doing is nothing short of Michael Vick.
01:04:19
Madden 2000 for incredible.
01:04:22
Well, it's Vic.
01:04:23
Oh, for that's the only thing that really detonator? 10.
01:04:26
What's up? Do you want with ****pit? Yeah, how you do it? Not too bad.
01:04:31
Hanging out. Are you subscribed? Mata Leary.
01:04:34
I am not like you know what? Going to going to? The description is radio.
01:04:39
There's a link to his channel.
01:04:42
I tried to put as the first line, but when I tried to stream it, someone's putting all these things.
01:04:46
It's like three links down.
01:04:47
Click on his thing. Subscribe.
01:04:49
Then I'll start talking.
01:04:50
You don't do entire want Do do right now.
01:04:53
I love it. Thank you. Aggressive.
01:04:56
I'm a salesman trying to sell phone tapping up because glitch and therefore you can hear a tap.
01:05:00
All right, but this script in all here.
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01:05:04
Um, we try to find him, OK? And she's right.
01:05:10
All right.
01:05:11
What's on your mind, dude? All right.
01:05:14
So yeah, honestly, I really, really kind of like, Why can't we be an nfi 31 now, but alters, uh, that That was a great team when we had ah, the other last this past sunday.
01:05:33
And I think that keep the momentum going, you know? I mean, remember last year we used to have a good.
01:05:39
No, no, this this, uh, this year has been like a three sided when you know we have special teams in there as well because, you know, last year, Daryl Roberts and Jason Myers pitting ass and therein But, like, you know what I think on all the defense would often have been improving.
01:05:56
So look, I agree.
01:05:58
I think we haven't seen a full offense, defense, special teams.
01:06:01
And who would have thought losing Jason Mayer would be as big of a hit as he's really been? It's been rough.
01:06:07
I did, I did.
01:06:09
I don't think much.
01:06:11
I don't think I don't think we've missed much from down Roberts, like, I think, Kickoffs.
01:06:15
If they eliminated Kickoffs entirely, I wouldn't be upset.
01:06:18
I think it's such a waste of a play now.
01:06:20
It's like frustrating every time and just started 25.
01:06:25
Now these There are some things that I want to talk about for the XFL, things that I think the wind up doing.
01:06:29
I think they'll take away Kickoffs where they're gonna wind up making it more aggressive and fun to watch.
01:06:35
I wanted the A f to really be a, um you know, a good alternative to test rules and testing.
01:06:44
They did so many things right.
01:06:45
The 42nd play clock, starting as soon as the players tackled short of the game tremendously, is absolutely incredible.
01:06:51
The No Kickoffs great idea, side by side commentary, perfect.
01:06:56
When they go to commercials, I hope the NFL tries to do more of this and it would just make the game go so much better.
01:07:02
It just it sucks cause they're gonna lose money.
01:07:03
And no one wants to lose the ad revenue from commercials and all that stuff because the stock go down.
01:07:09
I don't know, whatever.
01:07:12
I don't know.
01:07:13
But I agree.
01:07:14
We haven't seen a three team or three sided win yet waiting for that.
01:07:20
I mean, like, because I like, I like our special teams coach we had, I think, Do we keep a mission from last year? We still the same diary or no? Do you have no idea who our special teams coach is looking up right this second? The last special drinks actually took note of was west off, and we haven't had him for, like, six or seven years now, something with a B, I think right, so I'm blanking on it.
01:07:46
This is about it.
01:07:47
I got it. I got it. Wikipedia is popping up.
01:07:49
Boyer? Yeah.
01:07:51
There. You okay? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, Yeah. Okay.
01:07:53
I like it.
01:07:54
So, yeah.
01:07:56
I mean, honestly, I really like the man I think it needs, like, chill out.
01:08:01
Sometimes It's like, how did he make house? They missed the 40 yet Makes the 50 Elliot.
01:08:06
Mr 50 yet make the 40.
01:08:08
He just all over the place, man.
01:08:09
He's I think what? We're getting out.
01:08:12
I was typical for kickers.
01:08:14
I think it's I mean, look, you're not gonna get I'm watching Myers kick great field goals and C I don't know.
01:08:22
He was are we could have blown the cap space on him.
01:08:25
We couldn't just give it like a Yeah.
01:08:27
We'll give you ****.
01:08:28
I polite Seattle.
01:08:29
Just give us our kicker back way.
01:08:32
Do wrong.
01:08:33
How's your guy? Polite.
01:08:34
I mean, yeah, don't remind me of that guy.
01:08:39
I'm grabbing another beer.
01:08:40
You can continue talking.
01:08:43
Okay.
01:08:44
Cool.
01:08:45
You're worked up, guys. Ah, yeah.
01:08:47
Oh, yeah.
01:08:48
All right.
01:08:49
So what else you got? How you been? I'm doing good, man.
01:08:52
I'm excited to be on.
01:08:53
I never did a live stream like this before, but it's dope.
01:08:57
I don't stuff.
01:08:58
Amazing, actually.
01:09:00
Thank you for the great community by way.
01:09:05
See O'Leary on the ****pit.
01:09:06
He can copilot with me any time.
01:09:09
This is I like this, and I like the, uh There's something I think you know what turned me on to your channel map.
01:09:16
What's that was okay.
01:09:17
I was clicking through other stuff that that e I hear other jet fans talking.
01:09:23
All right, you know, whatever.
01:09:24
It's cool, but I start listening to you and the crisp audio captured, Yes, before we got started that that makes a difference to me.
01:09:35
So I'm trying to go all out for that, know that it's the right way to do it.
01:09:39
And I just bought a yeti Mike.
01:09:43
Probably, I don't know.
01:09:45
Two weeks ago.
01:09:46
Three.
01:09:47
Now it's got closed a month ago.
01:09:48
Now, old mike, you know, halfway decent.
01:09:53
I had this zoom h one which worked pretty well but crisp audio just so fantastic.
01:10:03
The first live stream I did.
01:10:05
And I've come a long way since then.
01:10:07
The first live stream I did, I did.
01:10:08
It was the jets laid on Belle when we had, like, 250 people in the chat.
01:10:12
We're like, Oh, my God, this is gonna happen.
01:10:13
And I go back and re watch.
01:10:15
And the audio was hot garbage.
01:10:17
Oh, God, That killed me.
01:10:18
Something happened with the audio, and it destroyed everything I did.
01:10:22
I wanted to cry.
01:10:24
I was like, I sound like an asset.
01:10:26
I want taking stream down.
01:10:29
Wow, Esso.
01:10:30
I actually don't post any my streams anymore just cause I want people to tune in while they're actually happening. Okay.
01:10:37
I don't know if that's I might wind up changing that.
01:10:39
We'll see.
01:10:40
Um, So what do you think about Jordan Jenkins? George Eggs. I'm excited.
01:10:45
I O'Leary I know he wants to re sign him.
01:10:47
I think you said that in your mock draft.
01:10:49
Uh, I'm right on board.
01:10:51
I think you have to re sign him.
01:10:53
He's been a steady, you know, consistent guy.
01:10:56
Good edge.
01:10:57
Center for me.
01:10:58
Almost feels like a Brian Thomas type of player with a little Calvin Payson.
01:11:04
Okay, that's kind of like I feel like he's a better pass rusher than Brian, But I don't know.
01:11:12
Look, I don't know what we wind up getting him for, I think in my mock.
01:11:16
I put him at eight million a year.
01:11:18
Three year, 24 million, I think is what I wanted given him, um, I would be all for bringing him back.
01:11:26
And I think it's important for a Jets team that hasn't had many players on second contracts to start getting players on second contracts.
01:11:36
And he's earned it? Yeah.
01:11:38
Yeah, of course.
01:11:39
I mean, like, I feel like, you know, maybe a possibly an $8 million.
01:11:42
4 year deal.
01:11:44
So, like, like, be like 33 two and all four year deal be 32.
01:11:51
I don't I mean, maybe he gets a four year deal.
01:11:54
Let me see.
01:11:55
He's ah, what we call him.
01:11:56
I guess you 34 outside linebacker.
01:11:58
Yeah. Um, over.
01:12:01
He's gonna cope in there right out that I think Dante Fowler got one year, 12 million.
01:12:06
He's more of a pass rusher.
01:12:08
I feel like although if Jared and Jenkins winds up getting a few more sacks over the course of the year, you know, So Dante Fowler got one year, 12 million.
01:12:16
That figure that started on Cayenne, because one year he probably have gotten 10 on a multiyear deal.
01:12:22
So, figure Jenkins around there, maybe between eight and 10.
01:12:28
He almost got one yesterday.
01:12:29
But your mom's touch theme song that Zach, I was like, Jamal gonna get an extra sack on his stat line.
01:12:37
I don't know if that's really him that caused it.
01:12:39
I mean, he he cleaned it up.
01:12:42
That was a J and Warren. James Jenkins.
01:12:44
You just touch me.
01:12:47
Get back now.
01:12:50
Yeah, I should have 1/2 back there.
01:12:52
Almost like a fairly I don't think they gave him 1/2 2nd I'm pretty sure they I shouldn't give him.
01:12:59
Oh, and I agree speculating all right.
01:13:02
And I just, you know, think I I want to see Quinn Williams develop a little more.
01:13:07
I mean, I understand.
01:13:08
Like, right now you have him being produced in a last back, and I know we said something about letter that first, you know about what? I had a good Ricky season like, we want to try a letter for 1/3 of Ford.
01:13:19
**** it.
01:13:20
This is what it Williams turns into another letter.
01:13:22
Williams, I'm gonna flip my desk out the window.
01:13:24
I like a good corner, Williams.
01:13:27
You know he again.
01:13:28
I know, like all like you clos e.
01:13:31
I mean, he flamed, um, orders face to the ground, doing Afghans into the ground.
01:13:36
And, uh, you know, just, you know, of course, just just, like, really go with the second lead, But like, he also plays a different position.
01:13:44
Works hard to dig through the trenches, you know, like he played defensive tackle usually.
01:13:48
Look, I watched the video on Quentin Williams, and I was all about this dude being the next Erin Donald.
01:13:53
I wanted to see some Aaron Donald type moves.
01:13:56
I get it. He's a rookie.
01:13:58
Donald didn't take off, you know, until probably year two or three.
01:14:02
But I way have we had.
01:14:06
Look, all we have is hope we had hope every single year.
01:14:09
This is what the god**** ownership sells us every single season.
01:14:13
It's true just because we couldn't jump in a fellow like that.
01:14:18
The guy of Zoe's Bezos Bezos, He wants a team.
01:14:23
We could Amazon drop players their contracts.
01:14:26
We're gonna We're just no one day delivery up.
01:14:28
Hey, guess what? It's way better.
01:14:30
I would I would be all four of Johnson selling the scene.
01:14:34
You know, instead of hiring a plane to fly around MetLife, we should all donate a bunch of money into a go fund.
01:14:39
Me.
01:14:40
All the fans will turn out.
01:14:41
Well, wind up like Green Bay, where all the fans will wind up owning the team will buy it for I don't know.
01:14:45
What is it gonna be? Fine.
01:14:47
$4 billion.
01:14:48
You know how long it would take to get $4 billion from jet fans? Unity took dollar donations from the 70,000 people that might show up to a game.
01:14:55
Take you forever to get a lot of money.
01:14:58
Not good, but not happen.
01:15:01
I don't know. Maybe I'll start.
01:15:02
I'll started moving.
01:15:03
Well, gotta go Fund me going and we'll get $4 billion to buy the Jets.
01:15:07
That's just gonna court court way.
01:15:09
We gotta get Daisy to help out.
01:15:11
You know, that's see, that's what we need. Jay.
01:15:13
Jay Z, you could be our owner.
01:15:14
I like it rejecting you from the ****pit because I've been talking to you for way too long.
01:15:21
You're here.
01:15:23
Who else we got? What do you guys thinking in the chat? You guys *****ing? Gary V.
01:15:30
I love you. I don't know.
01:15:32
I don't know much about Gary beyond where he made all his money from.
01:15:35
I was just a motivational speaker.
01:15:37
He started like a wine company, and then it blew up from that.
01:15:40
Really? I've watched some of his visit never like, follow him too closely from Brian.
01:15:48
Brian, What's up, dude? In a matter of leader, what's on your mind? Welcome to the ****pit.
01:15:56
Where you calling from, like, here and where you guys call from New York.
01:16:00
That's a very, very long island.
01:16:03
Okay, cool.
01:16:04
Are you subscribed to Matt O'Leary? Yes.
01:16:08
Um, **** right you are.
01:16:12
Okay.
01:16:14
What's on your mind? I just think about this the other day.
01:16:16
Um, engaged goes like 79 Actually not too now. It's good.
01:16:24
Our team, Like, look at the teams we have left that we should be.
01:16:29
We should beat Miami.
01:16:30
We should be the Bangles.
01:16:32
That puts us up five and 11 to get to seven.
01:16:35
And nine were probably gonna have to be Steelers.
01:16:40
And I would say the bills because I don't see us beating the Ravens.
01:16:46
Who else? We got Raiders and Steelers.
01:16:47
You're missing.
01:16:48
There's no I said.
01:16:49
Steelers readers, Rangers, Killers, Bills Or even.
01:16:54
All right, so it's gotta be.
01:16:55
We have to be thrills area and up temperamental dolphins Bangles.
01:16:59
And then you'd have to beat.
01:17:00
Yeah.
01:17:01
Do what? Who do you think we're beaten you think will be the best way to get 79? I'd be very happy.
01:17:08
For what? This season one of being, I think I could live with seven.
01:17:11
I think five and 11 is the most likely outcome.
01:17:15
Agree? Yeah, well, there are Maybe I'm I mean, like, uh, at this one, they're saying, like like, corner.
01:17:33
Hey, two of everything.
01:17:34
You're not wrong.
01:17:35
We need pass rushers.
01:17:37
Look, if if Jamal Adams can be our pass rusher in some capacity, I don't need I've always wondered why we didn't utilize him or along the line of scrimmage than we did.
01:17:46
Like he came up in run support.
01:17:48
But I love the way he is and blitz in the last two weeks.
01:17:50
He just looks like you get Brian pulls the same way I would blitz Brian Poole and Jamal Adams to try and get our pressure more than you know.
01:17:58
I think we have.
01:18:00
Yeah, I know people say, Like, you're more, more like one that looks like it wasn't born back.
01:18:06
Marc Maron transition from safety to linebacker.
01:18:10
Yeah, he did.
01:18:11
And you know what? I'm okay with Jamal doing that.
01:18:13
If he wants to know if he can play like outside linebacker for us and you fill in safety with, maybe you bring back Ron tells Miles or something, or I don't know that I think May is good on the back end.
01:18:25
I would hold on to him.
01:18:26
They like compliments.
01:18:29
Yeah, I really do.
01:18:30
I think they did a good job, Wolf.
01:18:32
I mean, I was a very big I wanted Dalvin cook in the worst way.
01:18:35
In the first round that year, I was, like, so on board with it.
01:18:40
And then I saw something where it was like, Dalvin cook.
01:18:43
Every year since I think his junior year, sop****re year in high school has been had some sort of running with the police.
01:18:49
All right, look, we're not signing this guy.
01:18:51
Got it? And then he was there the second round.
01:18:52
Leo, please just pull the trigger.
01:18:57
Yeah, we stand on draft. That's what it is.
01:18:59
We haven't hit on a second round draft pick in forever.
01:19:02
I mean, May outside of May for a Yeah, it was, uh it was, uh, Hackenberg.
01:19:11
Hackenberg.
01:19:13
Well, we know he was in, like, the fourth round.
01:19:14
I think Devon Smith was a second round there.
01:19:18
Steven was a second lab Do Cost was Pete.
01:19:24
Pete wasn't second round.
01:19:25
People's like 1/7 rounder.
01:19:26
He was a second.
01:19:27
Jason Morrow was a second.
01:19:29
I think Jason Morrow was a second out of Texas Tech.
01:19:32
Yeah, I'm really excited.
01:19:34
I'm bummed we didn't get secrets earned in this year because I think this offense really runs through the tight end position.
01:19:39
And Herndon would have been a huge help to this team.
01:19:43
1000% of Griffin going off.
01:19:48
I think he'll do good this week.
01:19:49
So I'm pretty sure this is gonna be a not a consistent thing.
01:19:52
But at least for this, we're gonna be a real good matchup for him.
01:19:56
Yeah, I think we're gonna probably come out strong this week.
01:20:00
We're kind of like, not problem.
01:20:02
Malcolm put up like 34 were like that 20 raise like we did against Dallas.
01:20:07
I like it.
01:20:08
I like it.
01:20:09
That would be if we can put up if we get 24 to 27 points.
01:20:15
I think we could beat the Raiders.
01:20:16
I think the Jets defense is well equipped to stop their running game.
01:20:21
What happens with Pharrell Williams is, you know, a whole another story.
01:20:26
I don't know.
01:20:27
Hopefully, uh, I I don't know.
01:20:31
My final night. My score prediction.
01:20:33
I'm gonna say Raiders, Raiders win 27 Jets 21.
01:20:39
That would be I think the Jets will wind up losing by over four points.
01:20:44
Yeah, I'm kind of right there with you.
01:20:46
I think it would be like 27 23 something like that.
01:20:49
Like I would love to spoil Buffalo season hashtag if you're still in here marking about Marriott and bring you Look, I know you guys ruined the bills, ruined our playoff chances in 2016 or 15.
01:21:06
Whatever year that was, I would love nothing more than to just ruin their season and, like, you know, across the board, if the Jets can knock out in teams along the way, and they could put a bulletin board material and play better, I'm all for it.
01:21:20
Just like I don't want to be like going to the office and again be like one of those top bottom three teams.
01:21:30
I completely agree.
01:21:31
Dude, I'm injecting you from the ****pit.
01:21:32
We got plenty of callers calling.
01:21:34
And I see all these different miss calls that we have.
01:21:36
Matt, we're famous.
01:21:37
People won't talk to us.
01:21:42
Um, in men think I like this.
01:21:46
Maybe we'll do a consistent thing.
01:21:47
Maybe maybe Jets talk on Monday is just O'Leary and Ryan going back and forth.
01:21:52
Amen.
01:21:53
I'm down.
01:21:54
Let us know if you guys want to see that.
01:21:57
Drop some knowledge in the comments section.
01:22:00
Who we got you.
01:22:01
We got a call from Brian from the Bronx.
01:22:05
Ryan from the Bronx.
01:22:06
What's up? Do welcome to ****pit.
01:22:08
You hanging in there? Talk to me.
01:22:11
What's on your mind? Yeah, man.
01:22:13
First things first.
01:22:14
I just want to say I've been subscribe to your channel for a while now, and I definitely respect the progress and the channels come a long way.
01:22:22
And I think that we haven't even seen the ceiling yet, so I respect the man.
01:22:26
You think I like too.
01:22:27
Good stuff.
01:22:28
Are you a Matt O'Leary subscriber as well? Yes, I am.
01:22:32
Actually, he puts a pretty good content as well.
01:22:34
I'm not sure I like it.
01:22:36
I like it.
01:22:37
This is good stuff.
01:22:38
I like the Jets community started get a little bit better when I started doing this sort of stuff.
01:22:42
It was like just jets talk or just yet, Central and like, I think angry David might have had, like, 500 subs at that time.
01:22:51
Yeah, I know how to bull****.
01:22:55
Why not? I like hearing my voice his but not, you know, First of all, I just want to tell you I've been a fan for probably if I want to see a steady 11 years.
01:23:07
Uh, I'm pretty sure you have more years on me way more.
01:23:10
I just remember from jail, man, it's always been from the top.
01:23:15
It's always been the ownership and, you know, obviously fast forward to now.
01:23:20
And we look at the current state of the team and I think it just recently said how you know, every year they try to market hope.
01:23:26
I mean, at this point, it's just like, how can you not get tired of it? You know, I really do think we need the owner change and that's probably not gonna happen with another 10 15 years.
01:23:34
Unfortunately, um, that's something that's kind of like, you know, blow.
01:23:38
It took.
01:23:39
Leon has dying for him to sell the team.
01:23:42
That's what it took.
01:23:43
And that's just say, there's I don't think the Jets are ever gonna get rid of it because they love having the Johnson never gonna get that They love here in the tabloids that love seeing the Jeff name pop up there making boo coo money on this franchise.
01:23:54
They don't care about how they do.
01:23:56
That's why they probably care.
01:23:58
They just butt in too much.
01:24:00
Great.
01:24:01
Well, as long as the money's flowing, they don't really care too much.
01:24:03
But I will say this, Uh, you know, I heard a couple people talking about, you know, Jamal, and obviously be traded in Libya.
01:24:10
Belle.
01:24:11
And you know, all this other things.
01:24:13
I feel like we have to for once in our franchise, hold onto the players that are actually game changers.
01:24:19
Um, I think I understand that getting capital for them, at least initially sounds practical.
01:24:27
But I think if we just continuously like you said, we have to keep, we have to sign our franchise players to second contracts.
01:24:33
You know, every just keep letting these players recycle after their 1st 4 years.
01:24:38
And, you know, we have another letter.
01:24:39
Williams and I just I think we'll never have an identity.
01:24:42
You know, I think we need to really, you know, work around Sam Darnold, Jamal Adams living on Belle.
01:24:48
It's a little different situation, since he's a little older and his position as well.
01:24:53
It's a little bit more flexible, but I just feel like, you know, we gotta hold on to this players and then build around them.
01:25:00
Yeah, look, I I agree that Jamal Adams one, I think, is the most interesting thing, and we brought it up.
01:25:06
God, it must be 56 weeks ago when we started talking about the thing No one want to bring up.
01:25:12
Jamal Animals is our most valuable trade asset outside of Sam Darnold, and there was even there was there's a spot when Sam was not playing well.
01:25:21
There was a contingency of fans that said Hey, if the Jets wind up with the 1st 2nd or third pick and they get their choice of 20 r, I p um, you know, Burrow or, um, Herbert from Oregon.
01:25:36
Do the Jets take one of those quarterbacks in the top three, trade Darnold for a king's ransom and have the rookie contract for five years, as opposed to Sam, which we might need.
01:25:47
We might need all next year to rebuild this line, and it may not be until his fifth year option that we actually are competitive or fourth year.
01:25:54
Yeah, but in your personal opinion, you feel like we just we just give up too easily because I feel like every time we do this, you know, we dropped a big name in the first round and it's usually top six top five.
01:26:08
As soon as it doesn't pan out, we just go.
01:26:10
Oh, typical jets, you know, Typical typical. Just bull****.
01:26:14
And I just feel like this time we actually have something in Sam Darnold.
01:26:17
I don't think we drafted maybe a whole of fame quarterback, but if they were drafted a quarterback that we could win with even if we get I've always compared to Sam Darnold, at least this place out like a match.
01:26:28
Stafford.
01:26:29
Maybe not the same arm town, but as far as play style, and I feel like even if that's his feeling, we can win around them.
01:26:35
But we have to give him a chance.
01:26:37
I mean, it doesn't matter who you put our quarterback, who you draft number one overall.
01:26:41
Whatever we need to build around our franchise players, we can't sal***eable Adams and not give him a top five pass rusher.
01:26:49
We can drop the Sam Darnold and not give him a top 10 Chiefs, even a top 15 old line.
01:26:54
I mean, we just like you said, We're very top heavy.
01:26:57
And then as far as steps were weak, we have spaghetti legs.
01:27:01
Look, I think Sam Darnold is the most talented Jets quarterback the Jets have ever had.
01:27:06
Franchise quarterback wise.
01:27:07
You know? You know Brett Far, Michael Vick, those guys physically more talented with the arm and the right.
01:27:13
But I think Sam Darnold will own every single Jets record by the time he's done with us.
01:27:18
And I Really, I thought this season was gonna be the year that we got to see.
01:27:24
I thought he was gonna break the touchdown record and the passing yards record, and I really think if he was in there for all four games because right now he's at what we at.
01:27:34
He's at 1600 yards, so he's not.
01:27:35
He's not getting there this year. He missed three games.
01:27:37
You'd have to throw some silly amount of, you know, yards.
01:27:41
But either way, I think next year, if he stays healthy and he's there for the entire season, he has top 20.
01:27:48
Offensive line now that not a bottom 12 right? I think he breaks all records.
01:27:53
You should definitely showed the town is there.
01:27:56
Yeah, the dude's just one.
01:27:57
Really? I see.
01:27:59
Ah was a big green.
01:28:00
Know who said that? Scott said Sam reminds me afar.
01:28:05
To an extent.
01:28:06
I think the improv, Yes.
01:28:10
The arm talent is not there.
01:28:11
The arm talent with far Dude had a howitzer.
01:28:14
But the s capability of Sam is, I think, better than fire.
01:28:19
I think far I've had a good, you know, backyard kind of quarterback play style.
01:28:23
But I think Sam is the I think Sam's a good quarterback.
01:28:27
I think Sam can be a perennial top five quarterback in this league.
01:28:31
I think that's how talented he is.
01:28:33
Yeah, I see a couple of Rome Oh, comparisons in the chat.
01:28:35
I like that one a lot.
01:28:36
I think that's pretty good, I think was a great extremely.
01:28:41
It's almost like scary, accurate how they both like, you know, they they're just natural, like gunslingers.
01:28:47
Maybe not in the sense of arm strength, but Maura, just like like you said, that backyard quarter bag placed out where they're just like, you know, they're very nitty gritty, like will take the hit.
01:28:57
You know, they get back up and they'll make you amazing place.
01:29:00
And then every now and then, make a very head scratching place.
01:29:04
I personally love Donald.
01:29:05
I'm I'm committed, You know, I wanted I wanna win with him.
01:29:08
But I do have a question for you guys for both you guys.
01:29:11
Just shoot.
01:29:12
Let's say your three is obviously, as far as you know, our knowledge, we're rolling with Adam Gates.
01:29:16
Unfortunately, let's say you're three and Dr plays a full 16 games and he does not show out the way we need.
01:29:25
Your three is usually that quarterback here where you need to, you know, Shut up or not up. Wait.
01:29:37
You don't extend them yet cause you own his rights for two more years, and you could really franchise him for two years after that.
01:29:43
So you really have control of Sand Donald for the next four and 1/2 years if you want to.
01:29:48
I would not pay him big money if he doesn't show up next year.
01:29:53
Now I have a hard time believing that he's just gonna fall flat on his face.
01:29:56
I like fully 110% back this guy and I know I've been brought in.
01:30:00
Jack, I polite.
01:30:01
I was wrong.
01:30:02
I'm like no other dudes that we've signed.
01:30:04
But quarterback wise, I think Sam is most talented quarterback we've ever had, and it would be a I think the Jets would be at fault if he doesn't pan out that sort of my take on it.
01:30:14
I think that false.
01:30:16
Yet I pretty much agree with everything you said At that point, I would kind of go like the Redskins Kirk Cousins route and like Franchising for a year and like if it's still not working out, then you just say OK and you let him walk and then you either draft somebody or find small Yeah, and ideally, I don't want it to get to the franchise tag part I would like to go into just before his fifth year option.
01:30:40
The Jets? No.
01:30:41
Okay, this is our franchise, guy.
01:30:42
You say, Hey, let's throw five years X amount of money, Whatever.
01:30:47
150 million or, you know, 200 million.
01:30:51
Whatever it's going, it's going to be in 200 million.
01:30:52
I think by the time Patrick Holmes get signed, I would rather us extend him just before your five.
01:30:59
Then get to the point of the franchise tag.
01:31:01
So we have another two years Thio kind of great him.
01:31:04
I don't think we're giving up on him before that.
01:31:06
Unless you, like, totally ****s the bed.
01:31:09
Right? Um, another question that we draft top 10 for the next draft, which I'm pretty sure it's very likely.
01:31:20
What position do we go? You know, if we only have one pink, what position do we go? I'm in favor off offensive line.
01:31:26
I think.
01:31:27
I think it's been over 10 years.
01:31:28
I believe this draft of the linemen and I think we're way overdue.
01:31:31
It's 13 breathing you.
01:31:33
We can get a big name if available, but I think we have to go, Lineman.
01:31:38
How do you guys feel about if we're top 10? I think it has to be a line.
01:31:44
I think the second round pick has to be online as well.
01:31:46
I think it's tackle or guard even.
01:31:48
And then it's, you know, it's center in the second.
01:31:52
If you trade Jamal and you get that 20 to 30 pick for him, Um, I would be more open.
01:32:01
I was more open to like, uh, Chase Young CD Lam kind of pick.
01:32:07
I think if we have that additional pick it kind of hands.
01:32:11
I don't know where these where these players are gonna wind up shaking down in the rankings.
01:32:18
Chase Young is someone that I would have definitely taken if we wound up with a top three pick.
01:32:24
I don't know.
01:32:25
I wouldn't I wouldn't trade up.
01:32:27
I wouldn't I would look at trading down, maybe.
01:32:30
Yeah.
01:32:31
Um, if we were saying we picked 10th I don't know where that next tackle is supposed to go like, I don't know if Austin Jackson is a top 10 pick or you know, and I kind of have to probably see that Andrew Thomas.
01:32:43
I see guys commenting in there.
01:32:45
Andrew Thomas is not getting past Washington.
01:32:47
Unless someone trades upto Washington's pick and Washington falls behind us, there's no way we're getting him.
01:32:52
Yeah, I'd be surprised, but that's really the guy that I want.
01:32:55
Yeah, he's Yeah, Thomas is the one, I think all Jet Fan's air 110% united on.
01:33:03
People are saying Tristan and worths worse out of Iowa is a couple prospects up there like, especially that in that top 15 rage.
01:33:11
And it could be like possibly the 45 linemen.
01:33:13
Yeah, I have a hard I have a hard time not going.
01:33:16
Lyman.
01:33:17
Based on what we saw it, I don't think Sam and the offense are gonna get better unless we fix the old line.
01:33:21
And you know, if you have to take the 15th best player at pick eight because you need offensive lineman, just do it for this season.
01:33:31
I don't care if the dude pans out.
01:33:33
It doesn't matter where he was taken.
01:33:35
I'm all about upgrading this offensive line this offseason.
01:33:38
It's It has to be priority.
01:33:40
One wide receiver, cornerback, pass rusher is all after that.
01:33:44
You agree, even already, that best player available? Yeah, actually, hurting us more than helping as faras the development of our routines.
01:33:53
Uh, because we take all these players and they never amounts of winning best clear available is a very, very optimistic I don't know.
01:34:03
It's kind of escape going.
01:34:04
Oh, you know, this guy we thought was the best guy in the draft, So we took him.
01:34:07
You know Leonard Williams when we took Leonard blames.
01:34:10
I was okay with it because, you know, like everyone said top player in the draft, I wanted to Mark Cooper.
01:34:16
I wanted Brandon, Sheriff.
01:34:17
I wanted marks.
01:34:18
Mario de, like all these guys had already been taken prior to pick.
01:34:21
Right? So, you know, I would have understood Vic Beasley because we had Mohammed Wilkerson.
01:34:27
We had Sheldon Richardson, but they had all their issues going on.
01:34:29
Wilkerson was not getting extended at that point.
01:34:31
Sheldon Richardson, I think, had just gotten in the car incident where he was driving 120 miles an hour.
01:34:40
So I kind of understood that Leonard pick.
01:34:42
But Vic Beasley would be that pick now and honestly, Beasley hasn't really look good either.
01:34:46
I think he's actually hitting free agency this offseason.
01:34:49
Yeah, I like that.
01:34:51
One of his best year he had was a very low graded profootballfocus grade.
01:34:57
I think, if I remember correctly, went off in 16 I think, and then kind of regressed a little bit after that.
01:35:03
I don't know if it was, it might have been.
01:35:04
I want to say was 17.
01:35:05
He had, like, double digit sacks, but a lot of the sacks were untouched.
01:35:09
He didn't do anything, ever clean up sacks or coverage sacks.
01:35:12
I think that's what wound up happening with him.
01:35:14
So he's actually not even that great of a pick.
01:35:16
You look at the Queen and Williams pick, you probably take Josh Allen there.
01:35:20
We just need a pass rusher in the worst way.
01:35:21
Jamal Adams.
01:35:22
If you could redo it, you're taking patch from homes.
01:35:25
And then I think the biggest issue for me is I was okay.
01:35:30
Not taking a quarterback that year because I thought the coaching staff believed in their second round pick and we didn't get to see him, so we didn't really know what was going on if they decided to take Jamal Adams because they did not want to admit fault in taking Christian Hackenberg is the biggest disservice that this franchise has done to the fans in a long time.
01:35:52
You're spot on with that.
01:35:53
It's, I mean, think about you'd have Patrick Holmes and you'd have three second round picks.
01:35:58
You'd have probably Quinton Nelson as your guard because the Bills would trade up with the Colts and quit.
01:36:03
Nelson now falls to six for the Jets.
01:36:05
You have, you know, just a slew of players that we could have taken, and it's just it absolutely kills.
01:36:11
But you can't play that hindsight game because hindsight is always a tough, you know.
01:36:15
And here we are.
01:36:17
And I remember what you said about Donovan Cook as well.
01:36:19
I'm with you 100%.
01:36:20
I was like, after the first night and I realized that I didn't get taken off the board.
01:36:25
I was like, This is a no brainer.
01:36:27
And then they double did on safety.
01:36:29
And that was another questionable Oh, Dr Choice.
01:36:33
I mean, we went Jim morons and then Marcus May, you know, it was just I don't know.
01:36:38
I didn't understand that.
01:36:39
I guess I guess we needed it.
01:36:40
But there were so many other pieces, especially in often susceptible that were, which is vulnerable.
01:36:47
We need is way more pieces on offense and defense.
01:36:50
And that was that was just a head scratcher.
01:36:52
And even then, let's just say we do trade Jamal Adams.
01:36:56
Are you okay with Marcus? Maybe an hour.
01:37:00
I am.
01:37:01
I think I made is really good.
01:37:02
I just need to stay healthy.
01:37:03
That's really the only the only issue with him.
01:37:06
I like Jamal Adams.
01:37:07
If Douglas can find a way to keep him, pay him and build the offensive line, I'm all for it.
01:37:14
I would like to see him stay.
01:37:15
I just question if that's a realistic thing.
01:37:18
I think this offensive line rebuild is gonna take two years without a Jamal Adam straight.
01:37:22
And I don't think this team can afford that.
01:37:25
Most definitely gonna need a sacrifice.
01:37:27
And last one on one hold you guys up.
01:37:29
Um, how do you guys feel about Joe Douglas and the franchise moving for? Do you feel like he has what it takes to really like, clean up this mess and just turn the whole culture around? Or do you feel like where it's gonna be another kind of like Cagney.
01:37:44
I have to hope that he's not.
01:37:45
I like I really I really do.
01:37:47
That's what it comes down to.
01:37:48
I really believe I believe in Joe Douglas.
01:37:50
I believe in his demeanor.
01:37:52
I feel like with Idzik and Tannin Bomb and the Cabinet, these guys looked like suits that were in an office that never really played the game.
01:38:02
Joe Douglas, on the other hand, looks like he's a lineman.
01:38:04
Looks like he's gonna hurt you if you do something wrong.
01:38:06
Like this is an intimidation kind of guy that has the head agree from Howie Roseman.
01:38:12
The pedigree from you know, his time with the Eagles and you know, the You know, he just seems like he's Maur buttoned up and more of a full proof GM And I.
01:38:24
I'm hoping based on what I've heard in the scouting department, they're actually investing money into it. We got Phil Sa***e.
01:38:30
I'm hoping we get Todd McShay.
01:38:34
There were rumors surrounding McShay and Douglas because they're, I guess, their close friends.
01:38:39
I would be all on board with that.
01:38:40
I actually I really like the Mike Mayock GM selection for the Raiders.
01:38:44
I think that was a smart move because you have to build through the draft.
01:38:47
So if we can get you know, McShay as a I don't know, consultant, it doesn't.
01:38:53
He doesn't have to do it full time.
01:38:54
Whatever it is, just I would bring him on and just try to build this team through the draft as best you can.
01:39:01
I'm with you there.
01:39:02
I really I am confident in Joe Douglas.
01:39:04
I think he is going to be a better draft there.
01:39:07
And Mike, I need one because that it's almost impossibly worse than Mike.
01:39:10
Mankind was drafting, but he came from like you said it with Theo Eagles and then even his time with the Ravens, that Ozzie Newsome.
01:39:18
That's another all of fame general manager there.
01:39:20
I think this guy has a ton of potential.
01:39:23
I got faith in him.
01:39:24
E.
01:39:25
I completely agree.
01:39:27
Dude, you've been ejected from the ****pit.
01:39:29
I apologize. We're out of time.
01:39:31
I said 8 to 10 o'clock.
01:39:32
We went 8 to 10 11.
01:39:34
That's all right, Matt O'Leary.
01:39:36
I've had a blast talking with you today and we will definitely do this moving forward.
01:39:39
I'll probably talk to you after this.
01:39:41
About potentially just doing this moving forward because I have fun with this sort of stuff.
01:39:45
And then I don't want you wasting all my air.
01:39:49
No, absolutely.
01:39:50
It was a blast.
01:39:51
Dude, Thanks for having me on, guys.
01:39:53
If you haven't subscribed the Matt O'Leary check out his channel, it's in the description down below.
01:39:59
Don't forget to tune in for all our other stuff.
01:40:01
We'll have another life from coming next Monday.
01:40:04
And guys, where's my music? I got turned up louder.
01:40:11
This is Jeff's talk and Matt O'Leary signing off.
01:40:14
Have a good night, boys and girls.

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