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We got Nance podcast as the Phoenix Suns not down one final shot.
If you haven't been noticing, I knew this could have been a tough one for the Nets.
So I had to hang out with my one giant hot cascos, Andy Markowitz.
And just make sure that I was gonna get through this one.
So far, not so good.
Uh, the Nets is.
We know we're down by 19.
At one point in this one.
They also made a great surge back and forth.
We're in to here in the second quarter.
And yet here at halftime, we find them sitting at 68 50 staring down the barrel of an 18 point deficit in their second game on the road.
Listen, before we go into the numbers at all, what I will say is first game really diving in on the Phoenix Suns.
They are young, athletic there, fast.
They move at a pace and they have shooters.
They're gonna hit down the open looks.
I mean, that's just the broad strokes of it.
The reality for Brooklyn and this one is you know what? You didn't see them doing well early, was getting into their offense, working in around the perimeter, finding open shooters early in the second quarter.
We saw them effectively dig their feet in a little bit on defense, get some turnovers, and it really was once again two games in a row.
Now Spencer dimly brought that spark off the bench, drove the lane a couple times, knock down a couple of three pointers, found Cem found subpoenas for open looks.
But as we move through that second quarter, we saw him used to come in for a short run.
His struggles continue. Mrs.
Of three Pointer has a turnover, commits a foul and defensive end.
We see DeAndre Jordan coming to the game and I'll say it.
Andy, Andy who? I was sitting here with watching it.
This is a guy who actually showed a little bit more effort than you have seen for him.
Early in the season, he had a little of ankle tweaks.
Seems like he's healthy.
He was showing out on perimeter shooters a bit more, a little bit more active in the rotations, more active on the offensive side, had a nice dish for an easy buck it for I think it was Didn't Woody on one look? So it was doing some positive things and then yet ends up committing some defensive fouls under the basket.
And once again, it's just that kind of thing.
We're So far this year, we have not seen the net positive when DeAndre Jordan has been on the court and I'm not gonna harp on him too much on this one.
But as I dive into the stats here a little bit and immaculate and take away from the first half years you, despite your first dive in right on the full Nets game, it is.
It is frustrating to see, you know, the Phoenix Suns had 60 points, right? And the and the I thought this game was going wildly over, whatever the over under waas.
And then, you know, I see all these threes.
I see all these best gets.
The Nets are giving a points that I look and I see that the over under is actually 2 32 in the game, and it's actually just now on pace with the last couple of baskets.
So, you know, Vegas had the biggest nods.
They just They just know.
But the Nets have given up 68 points in the first half.
So for me, Adam, my question to you is, what does this need to do in the second half? To change it where we know the Nets are gonna be the stall works that are going to give up 40 points in the safe Where they gonna do to stop? What can they do to get some stops so the offense can get going? Well, you know, we talked about this most games this year.
We talked about on the podcast a lot.
That defensive rotation has been a consistent issue for them.
In the first quarter of this game, you saw constantly that they were getting easy passes down the lane.
You saw Baines have a couple of easy looks there early where you would have nice flushes.
You also saw Baines from the outside have wide open three point looks.
And again it's about defensive assignments.
It's about rotating over.
You're not always gonna get lined up where you have.
I guess I dealing that scenario, you expect the have you Tori on Prince or maybe even Jared Allen showing out on Baines on the three point shot with somebody sells to be their pestering.
Someone has to be there to run him off that line if he wants to take that shot now coming into it.
Maybe saying strategy dictates that we sacrifice those shots so we can stay at home and on other shooters.
But then throughout the first half, and we're actually seeing some of the highlights right now.
Alan shows out on the 1st 3 pointer, and that's great.
But as you watch Rubio work through this offense you saw consistently open looks underneath going into the lane.
We saw Johnson had to hit that a couple of threes for Phoenix.
We saw you bury, have a couple of nice easy looks from the corner from deep and these air relatively easy assignments again right here.
This is the highly where Rubio drives through the lane, kicks it out to the three pointer to bein, and it's where Kyrie Irving drops down with Jared Allen covering Rubio going to the basket, and it's fine that you're doing it, but you can't have helped defensive.
Then you don't have someone else helping you over the top with them in terms of getting stops or changing something.
If anyone's listen to the podcast as well, the Nets don't get stops.
That's not really our thing.
We basically exchanged baskets, and it's whether or not we get into a strong enough offensive rhythm.
And then sometimes you have your opponent come down to Earth because you get to the stat lines here.
It's actually not as far afield as you may think.
You know, in terms of where these teams are.
We saw I think it was 52% from the field right now for Phoenix Net, sir.
Just under its 48% you know.
So the shot selection has been there consistently, but we haven't been finding has been the pace of play that Phoenix has been going with and our ability to match that and to match the looks that you're getting from the outside, you know, more than anything.
Adam, I have a question.
Just just watching the Nets is a casual fin on an insider like you are for the podcast that you know that we got in its progress.
The question I have is It looks like when the Nets go down, there's no actual offense that they run.
And every time someone hits a three the next time down, it's a heat check.
Oh, and they just chuck up a ball to see if, like someone's hot and they're gonna make like n B a jam.
We've got what we've got, what the market is on fire.
So So for me, I haven't seen an actual symbolism of an offensive than some guy makes.
Apply hits a three, and the next time come down, pull up three.
He tell me, Tell me what you're thinking.
But there is a little bit of that because we went back in a couple of games ago.
Kenny Atkinson acknowledge that a post game press conference it like the offense, is not a full system yet with all the new pieces, because when you think about it within the starting lineup, if you'd if you'd say that DeAndre Jordan's coming off the bench, you still have Tory on Prince, who's a new component, and then you're still gonna have.
Technically, everybody else stays in there.
You have Harris.
Kyra is obviously a new piece in there as well.
And then you have Alan, you have carrots.
So two out of your five starters are new pieces.
So learning the offense together.
Okay, that's one element of it.
Then in the second unit you're talking about Garrett Temple is a new piece.
You have spent your dinner money.
Who's returning crews has been in there, but it's not been very effective.
DeAndre Jordan becomes a new piece Nawab A becomes a new piece.
So you you are looking at a collection of players that are still getting used to each other, and I can't speak to how long it takes.
Exit knows to come together.
But that acknowledgement on Lee before the Portland game from Kenny Atkinson suggest that what you see when Jared Temple came down right strong defensively, gets a turnover, comes down the other end, puts up a three successful coming down the next time, knocks out another three, the third time he gives what we're talking about.
A Kyrie Irving esque he checked shot that you really don't want him taking.
But as a player gets streaky in the game, the Nets, then kind of turnover the offense and say we're gonna flow through you and see how long we can ride the hot hand.
What I've liked Maur that I seen was when Din would he found a cutting Joe Harris going to the basket when DeAndre Jordan found Spencer Dinwiddie cutting for an easy look when Caris, Levert and Kyrie Irving consistently drive an attack at the basket because his opportunities one of the players that I think has had a fantastic start to his Nets career but in this one has gotten a little bit away.
From what he's good at.
That story on Prince, right great three point shooter, pesky on defense.
He can drive the lane as well.
What he can't do is dribble down into the lane, take on a defender.
We saw him try to do it back to back possessions turned over one ugly shot.
Didn't even touch front room. I think so.
You know, you're seeing some guys, then get out of good habits because you're not playing with continuity within a system.
So, Adam, two things, uh, are really important to me when I look at this first half.
The first thing is this the most points that have given up this season in the first half.
The second thing is the Nets are five of 17 from three point range.
If the Nets are going to come back and win this game, obviously they're gonna make stuff.
But is it the three point shooting that's gonna do it? Or like, what is it gonna be that gets in its back in this game? Well, interestingly enough, 17 3 point attempts They were closer over the last handful of games they've been averaging just over 33 pointers a game.
Now that they've always been on the higher end of that last game, Joe here is only attempted four.
They've brought those numbers down a little bit, but being efficient from beyond the arc is still what's important to them.
So when you struggle like they have, you know, I tend to think with We need to touch on this with Jared Allen, now currently in foul trouble, picks up his fourth found.
The first half means you have to lean on DeAndre Jordan, which means you're losing some athleticism.
You're losing some perimeter ability to move the ball, set some screens a little bit more effectively.
I always prefer Alan in those settings as well, but you're probably going to have to down 18 points against the team that is shooting the way Phoenix is right now.
It's going to be through the perimeter, and when you take a look at it, we go through the numbers on Lee.
Two attempts from beyond the arc for Tori on Prince Joe Harris on Lee.
Two attempts from beyond the arc.
Spencer didn't we should put up 33 bad ones, but you can see you can understand where they're not getting the two best shooters that they've had so far from beyond the arc inventory on Prints and Joe Harris.
So if you want to come out in the second half, it has to be two factors.
You need to have Caris, Levert and Kyrie Irving attacking the basket lover.
It actually looks stronger in the first half than he has.
They need to keep attacking the basket, keep attacking Baines and Sark, and then look for your shooters on the perimeter and you're going to Joe Harris is going to hit his threes.
He's going to knock down the shots, but you have to commit two going at it consistently the same way.
Possession after possession until they start to fall.
And then you see that rhythm because what you're doing is you're doing two things.
Attacking a defense by driving at the basket, possibly getting foul trouble getting the line.
And then if you are kicking out getting down those looks, it means that you're now facilitating offense, not going one on one bowl like Spencer Dinwiddie turned to a little bit there, like Kyrie, Irving did a little bit like even Taurean Prince started to do there.
And I'm not sure what they saw because 17 attempts dictates that that's how they wanted to attack this.
And Kenny Atkinson typically sticks with those kind of strategies, and that's what you think will bear out in the second half.
OK, so you've given me what the Nets need do to score better than what they've been doing, and I know that you said the Nets don't play defense very well, and that's kind of been their M O for the year.
But in order to win this game, when you're down 18 you have to get a couple of stops like that.
The offense can only do so much even they put up 100 and 15 points.
They still might not win this game.
So what? What do they have to do on the defensive end? Like they're not gonna stop but tell me how they can contain? Yep, I would.
I would like to see Nicholas class and get a run in the third quarter.
He's six foot 11.
He can. He's athletic enough.
He could move quick enough to be a presence defensively and get out on perimeter shooters and you can flex him.
Beings is not a big center.
Sark is not that large.
They're not big players.
You could have clacks and on some of them and match up against them in the third quarter and help keep them off the perimeter shooting like they've been doing.
And he's not gonna help you keep him out of the lane.
A slight of frame, but he really showed in his last game his first taste of the MBA that he could be a problem and stay in front of people and was disciplined enough.
So I think klaxon getting a run makes a lot of sense.
I would like to probably keep Temple out of the floor more because he's a longer is a longer defender as well.
Those air Probably your two best keys to it.
And then Booker hasn't really had a big first half, so I don't know.
You know, Laverne is the factor there, but right now, the hard part is before we.
Before we let this go into the second half and then I'll be touching back in as we head wrap up the fourth quarter profit on the five minute mark.
I'll come back in and carry this through the post game, wrap up just quickly.
Here you look at it uber a perimeter shooting right.
Booker has 12 is a solid contribution, but by no stretch of imagination is he having a bad cane shooting 5 to 7 from the field.
Rubio has 10 points, nine assists in the first half, so he's finding it, facilitating his players.
I think Irene needs to start doing that more, but ultimately it's gonna be about Joe Harris.
You gotta stick on, you break.
You need to keep your body on your guy.
So ah, lot of times they're working this switching defense and at a certain point.
It needs to be one of two things.
You can always utilize the zone at some stretch in limited fashion because eventually offenses always break that down.
And then the other option is you two go Manson man zero switch, go against your guy and stick with him and take the results of it.
Whatever it's gonna be, you're gonna take the results.
Don't bite down.
If you're kind of into the lane on a big because you're leaving someone open for a three pointer, Joe Harris, you fight over that screen, that's fine.
And stick out on the perimeter and stay with you. Break.
Ultimately, this is a work in progress for the Nets.
But for me, I think you go Manson man.
And I'd like to say I think bringing in Claxton can help change a little bit of the dynamic defensively and maybe make the Phoenix Suns have to react to what you're doing as opposed to right now.
You early in the first half, what we say, Baines.
Three fouls. Awesome.
We saw it like a salt problem.
And then you end up getting so questionable ones that Kenny Atkinson was not a fan of in terms of moving, blocking fouls against Jared Allen.
He picks up four.
So now you know you've leveled the playing field back right back out for the Phoenix Suns.
I have to think that if Nicholas Claxton that you have to go to a little bit here when you need some that stretch minutes and then you try to see offensively.
If you can start to find that rhythm, the Nets are gonna knock down more three pointers than they have.
I think they can get the run.
MBA is a game of runs.
They'll close this thing back in and get within, say, 5 to 7 somewhere in the third quarter here.
And then it's going to be about I can, you know? You know, one of the other factors to Temple showed in the first half.
Soda Torrey on Prince, Couple of steals, couple of turnovers.
And Kyrie Irving is goingto have to get a little bit pretty on the defensive side of the ball just in order to change the pace and the tempo and get to Brooklyn.
That's offense out and running, where they get some of the easy looks from the perimeter as opposed to what's been happening, where they're sluggishly moving into the offense, playing one man on the ball.
So it's felt like it's felt so far, like Phoenix has had a lot of open three years, whereas the Nets have had a lot of heat.
Three is checking in on threes, and that's just been the pace of the game, whether whether or not the scores a tenner.
Yeah, no, it's very much been dictated by the Phoenix Suns as well.
So you know, we'll look into the second half here to see the game action.
I saw very high viewership as I was carrying that game over into the first quarter.
So I'm gonna do is I'm gonna try to watch this third quarter and really dissect some of what I'm seeing there.
And then I'm gonna come back in the fourth quarter like I said around the five minute mark and see this one out.
Hopefully, it's a competitive game.
Otherwise, I'll just be carrying over some of my takeaways from what could be a bit of a demoralizing might luck demoralizing loss here on the second game of the road trip for the Brooklyn Nets.
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The five minute mark in the fourth quarter.
Andy Markowitz is going to stick around with us from the one giant podcast.
So we're gonna grind this one out.
Whatever it takes. They got within two.
I think they can make that Serge look for some of the different things they can do in terms of players.
They can bring off the bench and look for them to get into a little bit more of an offensive rhythm and start knocking down some of the open looks that they have had.
I'm Adam or Brecht, as always for the week.
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