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All right, John.
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So this week the Mets had a press conference and they, you know, announced Carlos Beltran as their new manager.
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Um, you and I, we spoke.
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We, you know, I was on the offense with non experience and I kind of said, You're right, This is no way I got to get over it One of the things that Carlos said in the media scrum, which I found fascinating.
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Ah, we all talk about ****ytics, and that's why we need these new age managers that they can embrace ****ytics and what Carlos said, which was very intuitive.
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I thought Carlo said that a You'd have to be a fool not to use ****ytics.
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But it is the role of the manager to understand which players can grasp the enormity of the data and which ones can only use a little bit, he said, Because some players will just shut down if you give them too much and it's his job to understand which players will thrive with tons of information and which drive with just a little.
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So you know, that being said, what did you make of the initial press conference and what are your initial feelings now, after you've heard from Carlos? Well, I want to say that Carlos is absolutely right in terms of in terms of applying ****ytics to different players.
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I mean, you could see even from following players on Twitter, which players all receptive the ****ytics and with which players might not be, it isn't it is a new age.
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Now.
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It is a new way of doing things, and you d you've got to bring out the best in every player.
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The role of the manager has shifted.
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We've talked about it many times, and, uh, and I think it's kind of the same as it was before, whereas whereas back in the sixties and seventies, it was talking about mechanics and hitting.
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And you don't want to give certain players that much in terms of in terms of how they're swinging or their mechanics or pitching and what not starting guys, You can do that, too.
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But certain guys, you, you let get through it themselves.
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Now it's the ****ytic.
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So I think that's a very good ah, very stupid point by Beltran.
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I mean, listen, we've got we've got a clean slate with Carlos.
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Everything is going to be is a lot of things that are gonna be new to him.
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It depends on what he what he picks up on, how he's utilized.
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Look, the front of the Foreign Office is going to control Ah, lot of that stuff that managers used to use to control.
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Carlos will have different, different roles, and we'll see how he adjusts to them.
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One of the things and I, you know, I have been a Brody supporter, one of things that Brody said kind of rub me the wrong way.
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And I think it was kind of throwing ****ey under the bus a little bit, Um, where they asked him, You know, what was one of the things that stood out about Carlos? And he said, Well, Carlos is the, you know, for me.
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I want to be able to go into the manager's office and, um, exhale, as opposed to inhale.
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And that to me, kind of, you know, with saying that every time he would be going into ****ey is one of those moments, you know, and that kind of rub me the wrong way because I think ****ey was for the most part of good soldier.
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He did what was asked of him, And, you know, and all, all things considered did not do an awful job here.
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No, I agree.
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And I thought it funny.
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I I read that quote Thio.
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I thought it funny that the guy who said that was the guy that threw a chair in coaches meeting.
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So I mean, if that's not the definition off of having guys clinch a little tight when they're around you, I don't know what it is.
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Yeah.
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Calloway had to blow the very public blowup with the reporter and got and Jason Vargas got involved? Yes, absolutely.
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But his team's never stopped playing for him.
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So s so obviously there was some comfort level, but that's a Met thing to d'oh.
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You know? And that's something that the Foreign Office has done anonymously for years.
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They they trashed Justin Turner going out the door.
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They trashed Sandy Alderson.
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They trashed Marlon Byrd.
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They trashed a lot of people to kind of justify their moves.
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And Brody is apparently picked that up are, at the very least, he's he's done it and put his name to it.
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He didn't do it anonymously, but yeah, I would agree that with that quote, struck me a little odd.
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All right.
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The other thing, you gotta love the Internet and you know people with sharp eyes.
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Ah, a former guest of ours evidently is, Ah, guy that's being considered for the spends coach.
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And the way he found about found out about it was through Twitter because, ah, the picture of Carlos Beltran signing his contract.
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There's a little folder in the corner with Jerry Narron's pencil.
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Get on it.
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Um, you know, I don't think Terry's going to be the bench coaches originally rumored.
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I think that Terry will be a sounding board and a mentor for sure, but I have a feeling that Jerry Narron would be a very good place to start.
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What do you thoughts on the the opening for a bench coach for the Mets? Well, it's It's interesting because they brought injured Jim Riggleman to kind of do the same thing with ****ey Callaway, to give them to drive him a little bit and give him a little guidance.
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And from from all the little subterranean things that I've heard, Riggleman really didn't do all that much, and it didn't really work out as thought.
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So So it's it's gonna be interesting to see who they are, who they sign I for one.
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I think Terry Smart did not take the job.
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I think he I think he'd be very wise just staying his cushy position and, uh, and not have to worry about that day to day pressure that comes with being on the in dugout staff, so to speak.
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And I thought it funny, then.
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Okay, the the picture went out.
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People figured out that Jerry Narron name was on there.
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I mean, okay, that could have been anything but all right.
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I found it funny that Brody took down the photo and replaced it with a new photo is if he was really protecting some sort of state secret with state of the bench coach, I mean, I mean oh, my God.
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Now, now everybody knows our secret.
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I thought that was the most hysterical thing aspect of all.
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The Mets do not have a very good history with Twitter.
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You can go back to the or even television.
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You know, the r a ****ey interview with someone in the background in the shower.
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Um, you know, ***, toys and people's lockers.
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You know, uh, J.
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Horowitz with the actual bank account on a check.
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It's like they really should stay away from social media.
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Well, that goes back.
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And I'll tell a quick story that goes back.
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Thio sit for an end as when we were when the whole bunch of us, when we were young, waiting for to get glimpses of the guys, they were leaving a game and we went around to the press gate and there was a big and it was a red Porsche there, and and we thought, Okay, well, who hasn't left yet? And we figured out it was that it had to be Sid Fernandez.
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So everybody's looking in the in the car.
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And not only was Sid Fernandez his mail with a dress clear to everybody, but he had thanked account information that was public, and people were writing that down on booze.
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So this is a new thing. Unbelievable.
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All right, quickly, before we let you go, New York Yankees.
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Obviously, uh, pitching will be the primary target during free agency.
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Who do you think the Yankees? I mean, they've been linked to Zack Wheeler Heavy.
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I don't see if Wheeler's going to go to New York.
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I think he's going to stay with the Mets, where he's already comfortable and knows everyone.
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I don't see him going there.
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Who do you think the primary target will be for the Yankees? As faras picture? I think they need a game changer, and it's, uh it sounds like the obvious answer, but I think they need to go after Garrett Cole.
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It really all depends on whether Cole is serious about wanting to go home to South, to some in California or not.
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UH, C.
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C. Sabathia family has been recruiting.
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Cole heavily is, and I think the Yankees will will be in play.
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And I think that's the guy they're going to target.
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And why not? I mean, everybody.
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You look at all the other options, and and there seems to be other options that a good for them also.
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Zack Wheeler and Madison.
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Bumgarner is good for the Braves.
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I think will.
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It would be a great ad for a team like the Minnesota Twins as well.
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I think if you're the Yankees, you've got the salary aim.
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Aim high, Awesome.
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All right.
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He was drafted in the fifth round in 2010 by the New York Jets.
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Is a pleasure to welcome one of the 54 men who played for both the Jets and Giants, the man known as a Terminator, John Connor to 5 40 Sports Talk New York.
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Hey, John, hey doing? I'm doing great doing good, especially if we're Jet fan giant fans.
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Not so much of, but we'll get to that a little further when we talk about your time with those two franchises.
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But let's talk about your your career very similar to our hockey gets.
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Two weeks ago, Dan Girardi, your star at Lakota West High School in West Chester, Ohio, where as a two year starter at running back US for 1100 yards and 14 touchdowns, averaging 6.
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3 yards from Carrie, is a senior.
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You're named first team all Greater Miami Conference on Roe.
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Mention all Southwest Ohio however you Went unrecognized is a college prospect by the two major recruiting service is rivals dot com and scout that come and you're not offered an athletic scholarship anywhere.
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Were you surprised by that? All right, that's pretty impressive.
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Um, yeah, I was I was initially, but I actually used that as motivation to get where I am or to get where I was.
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It was one of those type of things that I couldn't figure out What, what what the issue is.
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I feel like I have to get a good tape out there.
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Um, I have the the yardage and the firm, and I couldn't understand why I didn't have you know, you did receive some recruiting attention from Kentucky, Tennessee, West Virginia, in Illinois, among others.
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What went into your decision to be a walk on with the Kentucky Wildcats? Well, Kentucky was the school.
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They're talking a little bit there in a position where they could be offered me a scholarship at the time, but they were straight up with me.
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This had a chance of going internally, earn a scholarship in on a starting position.
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I know the situation where the Lexington is.
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I grew up in the Cincinnati area, Lexington with place.
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That's far enough to get away from home, but also, you know, close enough to get back and also have family in Lexington.
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And, uh, yeah, I just I feel like that was the best when you have to meet the coaches well, that choice obviously pays off by your junior year.
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You get 11 starts in the 13 games prior to your senior season, your name the best blocking back in the Southeastern Conference in the Birmingham News 2009 preseason edition, as well as earning All American honest by foot pro football weekly.
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How much confidence did those honors give you heading into the draft? It gave me confidence, but it was on the best terms. I'm walking along.
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I didn't want to tell my head of too much with the positive or the negative.
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I kind of wanted that in between that and just keep working hard and don't let that about my work at it.
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Keep going for more.
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So what's your biggest takeaway from the Kentucky experience and the most important things you learn from Coach Brooks, Joker Phillips and running back coach, Which is interesting.
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You know, you had a former NFL pro in Liar, Brinson as your runningback coach.
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What was your takeaway from those three coaches? I've learned a lot from each one of them.
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Some different from this.
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One of them are coach blows.
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We have very physical practices.
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We have very our practices.
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And then he kind of taught us about just being tough.
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Um, I learned a lot about offense.
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Theo Drucker, fearless and close, prestigious with experience in NFL, is really helped me out in my career.
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Confetti.
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You know this.
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This always fascinates me.
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You participated in the 2010 NFL combine, and I have to imagine that, you know, at a young age that's extremely stressful because you're out there and really it's a triumph for everyone, and you're trying to do your personal best.
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But it's not like game day.
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The stadium is not full.
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There's no crowd noise, so walk us through what goes through a college athletes mind during those combines and how you get your adrenaline level up when you're used to game day with all the hype and in a locker room and your team, How do you do that? Individually, I think the fact that you were so finding Carmen I think that's what made it so nerve racking.
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Just that you have a bunch of coaches in the stands is looking at you and, you know, evaluating your every move.
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Um, I mean, it's a test.
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Well, we had a wake up early.
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56 a. M.
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Having interviews, breakfast my way.
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Move our, uh, latest and cars.
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And, uh, yeah.
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Second, it's an early test just to get you ready for the last in the NFL.
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Hey, John, this is Ryan.
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Can you take us into some of the behind the scenes like what goes on in those interviews? We've heard stories of some pretty wacky questionings happen.
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Did you have any experiences like that? Oh, yes.
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They will ask you anything and everything.
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That that part got pretty interesting.
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What was the strangest question you were asked, uh, can you share that with time I probably sent here.
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But if I could take wonder that's radio from the ER.
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I think they they asked me how many days a week drink.
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Really? Wow, that's wild.
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Yes, right? Yeah.
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You're trying to break it down.
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The psychology, right? They think anyone honestly is gonna answer, uh, every day.
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Job interview, right? Really? Exactly.
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Darling, you can't live with you.
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Okay? All right.
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So let's go back to the weekend of April 22nd 2010 the NFL draft.
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What do you remember about the weekend and the moment you were selected by the New York Jets? Oh, man, it was just a great memory.
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I can remember all the little things just from turn off my phone vibrating on my leg.
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I had it all the time just watching the draft board and the watching guys get tasting, reaching their dreams.
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And I remember to this day, now the process And, uh, just so you know how restaurants work over the phone.
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And I can I can go back to that day and any time and remember everything.
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So you mentioned Rex.
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Rex is your coach.
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Brian Schottenheimer is your offensive coordinator.
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Tony win is a running backs coach.
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What was the major difference you saw in the college game in Kentucky and your first pro camp in New York? What was the thing that stood out to you like, Whoa, this is a whole different world, I think, just the business, the business aspect of everything.
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And Carlos, it's more of like a team.
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My commodity.
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It isn't enough there, but the same time.
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And then I felt your fine for your job.
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Every week, every day is the interview at practice, and you have guys that is there one day and gone the next day.
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And that's one thing I was like, Man, this is really bad for business.
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Uh, you have to do your best every day and just bring the best.
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We're speaking to former New York Jet New York giant John Connor, The Terminator.
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You become kind of a household name because of HBO's hard knocks, where week after week coach Rex Ryan would praise you on film.
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Ah, and that kind of took on a life of its own.
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What was that like for you all of a sudden? Not just in New York, but it is HBO.
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It's every single NFL city knows you already.
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Yeah, it was kind of crazy, crazy walk around a city and people would recognize you, especially being a fullback.
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I think I One guy on the team you can't remember who dress like you're probably the most famous for.
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Oh, but, uh, it was fun.
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It was It was a lot of fun. It was crazy.
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But in a day, you know, you live not your dream.
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And I I just enjoyed every second otherwise there, looking back at your career is a jet.
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What is your farm? Find this memory of being a jet.
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My fondest memory being a J Probably just going to the playoffs my rookie year.
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I just remember coming.
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That's a rookie.
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And just remember how long I want to see it was and talk about that rookie wall and like, hit that and you just got to get that second wind.
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But we're actually not going deep into the playoffs all the way to the East chamber again.
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We know lives with this bird, but, uh, just that whole playoff atmosphere crazy.
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You know, something different from a regular season game and in a playoff game.
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You mentioned that rookie wall, and you know there's really no way to prepare for it. It's different.
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The NFL is a different beast in the college game who are on the Jets.
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Kind of mentored you to let you know that.
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Okay, that this is normal.
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Everyone goes through it and and kind of got you through that.
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You know that, rookie Walt, You know, poor portion of the season.
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We had guys like the Rich got it kind of pushing every day in practice.
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But he was also a hold of veterans in rocket pick his brain.
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And he was kind of giving his experience with everything and also trying to save tradition and plan for 16 years.
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And then you have guys, like with any Thomas no Polish Famer and just got it.
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I looked up to growing up in.
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It was nice to have him there toe cancer.
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It taught me to.
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Everything is well, it was pretty too good. Guys.
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Toe toe, look up to for sure.
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Um, 2012.
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You struggled with the M.
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Sprain and hamstring injury.
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You're released by the Jets October 17.
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You get to play two games for your hometown team, The Bangles.
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Did that mean something to you? As a lot of NFL players don't get the opportunity to play in their hometown? Yeah.
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I mean, the lie was because my parents family, if they could come out and watch me and just tell him I grew up watching growing up, and I'm just gonna have to be Berry.
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And I think these are guys, like a lot of my trained with an off, because I was come back home to my Cincinnati home and it was just Crew.
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But I would be 10 minutes with these guys.
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I pray for your own sound, tame.
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You got to know the kids to grow up with their there, ever watching more now because they're being with fans and that whole thing was pretty cool.
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So 2013 After working out with the other New York team, the Buffalo Bills, you end up signing a two year contract with the New York Giants under coach Tom Coughlin.
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We'll both New York teams, you know, there's a perception that the Giants just do things differently than the Jets.
00:23:19
What did you find as the most notable difference between the two franchises.
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When you played with the Giants and the Jets, well, you're right about that.
00:23:27
Time cost a very respectable coach.
00:23:30
Two Super Bowls.
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But you go there.
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It's a different type atmosphere.
00:23:34
You got like restaurant was more of a players coach.
00:23:37
You goto Tom Coughlin, who know there's nothing.
00:23:40
Where are all the processors said back in the facility.
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10 minutes.
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So if you had a meeting at seven o'clock P.
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M.
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That means that a meeting at six so you couldn't have your cell phone down is very military, like, uh, environment.
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But obviously it worked with him in the past.
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So you know, you got to respect that.
00:24:01
I wonder if Gino Smith would still be late.
00:24:05
So you also got to be part of a Jets Giants regular season game.
00:24:10
You know, as fans, you know, it's different for us.
00:24:14
It means something when we're playing the other team in the city as a player.
00:24:18
Did that game have any added significance to you, or was just another regular NFL regular season game for you? Well, I think it's a necessary rivalry, you know.
00:24:28
You see these guys out in the city a lot, and you're friends with him out there.
00:24:32
But today we know where rivals come on that football field with our friends and more.
00:24:37
I think that kind of hiding the the mood a little bit.
00:24:41
Uh, but you know, our first way when that game And when I'm the one who bought that year.
00:24:47
But it was, uh I think the whole robbery, just being in the same city, made it made it better.
00:24:53
It's hard to believe that the quarterback on that giant team is a guy that you played with six years ago as he was in his 10th season that year.
00:25:01
Ah, still on the team today? What was it like to play with you lying Manning? You know, I was a great guy.
00:25:08
He's very down to earth.
00:25:09
Uh, pretty funny.
00:25:10
People don't People don't think that, but he's actually pretty funny guy.
00:25:14
It was.
00:25:15
It was honored to play with him, and, uh, just knowing that, you know, he won the Super Bowls and the justice history in his honor.
00:25:24
It's also interesting you take a look at your role in the role of the full back in the NFL, and it's kind of disappeared.
00:25:30
Why do you think that is? You know what? I couldn't tell you that.
00:25:36
I I just think I kind of came in right at the end of the right area If I was drafted in the nineties and you probably will see me out there, but, um, I just I don't know.
00:25:47
You know, a lot of teams are going to the spread offense.
00:25:50
They want to throw the ball going on.
00:25:51
I think pretty soon the running backs into coming down a brief because all the things in the past, the ball now and they're getting more fancy with their offense.
00:25:59
I'm more of that.
00:26:00
So bad, Traditional, full back in a lot of teams, you know, they used that h back tight bill and hide and put in hiding back there is enough a little bit.
00:26:10
It's interesting because I kind of think hopefully these things are somewhat sick.
00:26:13
Look over you go back and you look back in the day.
00:26:16
Guys like Norm Bollocks.
00:26:17
And you know, Zanca, the fullback was such an integral part of wearing defense is down now.
00:26:23
I guess it's a speed game and you're right.
00:26:25
It's Ah you know everyone has to catch the ball.
00:26:28
I miss the ground and pound part of the game, but it's interesting you mention that.
00:26:35
Yeah, it's interesting to you mentioned cyclical, and I'm wondering if it's something that's gonna come back because, as the league, like you mentioned, wants to use more halfbacks, even putting tight ends back there.
00:26:44
There's also a trend across the league's that the halfback can't block the same way that these fullbacks were capable of so blitz pickups away.
00:26:52
Different.
00:26:53
Do you think that that's something that teams out of necessity we're gonna go back to, Or they just gonna try toe, find better blocking schemes? Uh, you know what I sense? And I mean, that's one thing I pride myself on.
00:27:03
I wanted to be able to do what I want.
00:27:05
A better run, catch and block.
00:27:08
I think that was on a separate running back now, coming into the league is they can do all of those things and not just carry the ball for 1000 cars, but they can also pick up a blitz and save a place.
00:27:19
So hopefully they get back to that.
00:27:21
I not think a few painters still using the four back.
00:27:26
But like you said, it's a dying breed and, uh, not think it's just a different air in there.
00:27:30
Hopefully, we can, Ah, a lot of times things reversed back, But that would be awesome to do it when you watch the game compare and it seems almost ridiculous to save its its not that long ago that you were in the game, but what did you notice? The difference between when you played in the game? Today I feel like there's a lot more, Ah, referee involvement.
00:27:51
I think the rules have changed a little bit.
00:27:54
You can't just not somebody out like maybe I'll take you through a few years ago, even before me.
00:28:01
I think the world of changes, I think, uh, just take on change a person.
00:28:06
I was saying, It's a few things have changed.
00:28:11
No.
00:28:12
Do you think if you were coming out of college now what do you what position do you think you would be in today's NFL? That's a really good question.
00:28:22
That's one thing that I thought about.
00:28:24
Wow, you know, I was blessed to come out and then I'll be able to be used, but I'm like, man, I think about like, if I would have come out now, Like, how would the NFL use me? Um, and I would hope that I could still, you know, maybe do a search for yards back or four for back into your yard and get that first down stated or shoulder forcing short.
00:28:46
Um, but yeah, you know, I don't know this question.
00:28:51
Do you think that the team's getting away from using specialized, you know, packages of having someone that'll ram the ball right up the middle? Those kind of like the Giants have the three headed monster a few years ago during the Super Bowl run of having those specialized things.
00:29:04
And now teams are using three down backs like that's the new trend and everything.
00:29:08
You know, everyone wants to copy each other.
00:29:10
So do you think that doing that is actually leading to more injuries and maybe less effectiveness? I mean, I'm biased.
00:29:18
I get I would like to say yes, I'm still a big fan of the big back in just grew ah, north and South kind of guy.
00:29:26
I think there's a place for, you know, the scat backs and another the quick guys, but I don't think you're less trenches.
00:29:32
I think you need a girl running back.
00:29:35
You don't have to be the biggest guy.
00:29:36
This guy, this I'm going on a little shoulder in the path for extra credit.
00:29:41
So you played for both New York franchises.
00:29:43
Which do you identify with Mme.
00:29:44
Or the Jets Or the Giants? A man? That's a tough question.
00:29:49
Uh, they're they're monster.
00:29:52
Very similar.
00:29:53
Different environment.
00:29:54
But I think both teams on the ground and pound the ball when I was with the judge.
00:29:59
Are you had a Shawn Green with any Tom? Assemble our power, Justin, I'm a few.
00:30:05
And doing, you know, with the Giants were branded drinkers, uh, eight.
00:30:10
Uh uh.
00:30:12
Good.
00:30:13
Uh, Wilson.
00:30:16
David Wilson.
00:30:17
They work? Yeah.
00:30:18
Yeah, I think the emphasis was ground in town type of type offense.
00:30:25
So one of the one of the themes today in today's game is both offensive lines were really struggling due to the injuries.
00:30:32
So what I want to ask you is more specifically in a game when that happens, how much of a difference is it? Toe Have that backup coming? And is it really that much of a confidence, you know, shock to everyone around saying what? We just lost our guy on the left tackle of replacing lineman in the middle of a game.
00:30:51
Aki Kiki, ask me that again.
00:30:52
I'm so one of the one of the things that happen in today's Giants game is that the line was was bereft by injuries and they're replacing guys in the middle of the game.
00:31:02
What happens on an NFL sideline when an offensive lineman goes down and you're not replacing him with a guy who might not be, you know, has acquitted with the scheme? Yeah, I think, uh, you know, when you first got me a game, you got a guy going in there really cold, and I think it takes a while to get adjusted to the game.
00:31:20
You can't just go in there in.
00:31:22
You got to use the defensive ends and taxes.
00:31:25
They're they're running like 4544 now, and they're big and they're you know, they're physical.
00:31:29
They're coming off that ball fast.
00:31:30
I think it's kind of hard.
00:31:32
I have asked, You gotta go in there.
00:31:35
It should be right away.
00:31:37
I mean, they're guys that can do it.
00:31:38
Don't get me wrong, but I think that that's a that's a tough job to take over.
00:31:43
So you played for both the Jets when they were competitive and the Giants, when they were competitive.
00:31:48
Right now, you take a look at these two teams and they're in disarray.
00:31:51
Um, I don't know if you got to see the game today and how much you get to see of these two franchises.
00:31:56
Ah, the little that you have seen of them.
00:31:59
What do you think that their issues are? What do you think needs to be corrected in order them to get back to being competitive? Football teams? I think it's a situation where you just gotta look at Look at your look atyou.
00:32:12
That started the Marquis What What guys is going on here watching form and just trying to make the best corrections possible? Obviously, these guys you know they're there for a reason.
00:32:21
I think I think our team's been turning around.
00:32:24
They just sit there, are worth it.
00:32:25
But the root of everything isn't I mean, I would even look your wretched during practice.
00:32:28
How you guys preparing for the game, how you guys watching? Um uh, you know what? You know what, guys stepping up their leaders, leading by example of vocally, I think I think you gotta looking finally and look at yourself, having played here, um, you know, it's different.
00:32:46
Att.
00:32:47
Least know we, as the media think it's different.
00:32:49
But both of these team have very young quarterbacks.
00:32:52
What does that add to the mix when you have two very young quarterbacks trying to establish them in the league when they're playing under the microscope in New York? Our Telesis know you come in New York, that is the fan bases.
00:33:08
It can be very intimidating.
00:33:09
The times I recommend God, stay off Twitter staff, Most media.
00:33:13
My incident and all that stuff is my people can be very harsh.
00:33:16
I think it's one of those things where you just have to know, remember what got you there and learn on the veteran defender and leadership.
00:33:23
I think that's what I used to essentially come through, You know, after your young quarterback and I just feel at home, make him feel comfortable.
00:33:31
I think I think confidence is key when I wanna guys.
00:33:33
I'm confident there's no way you know I can't help but think as I hear you speak you.
00:33:40
You sound like someone that should be a coach in the league and maybe not so much for position, but just, you know, there's so much that comes with being an NFL pro that so many guys, you know, blow it just by not being attuned to what it takes to be a pro.
00:33:58
Is that something that you'd like to get into in your career now? Oh, it is nothing something.
00:34:04
Look at keeping around the game.
00:34:09
I do a performance training now, trying a lot of athletes that was already, you know, the place.
00:34:15
I think coaching it could be something.
00:34:18
What are some of the things that you have to work on with these guys, that performance wise now especially, like you said, these guys are bigger, faster, stronger, which is almost amazing to say, because it's not that long ago that you were playing.
00:34:31
But they are bigger and faster.
00:34:33
What are some of the things that you have to train these guys to be able to do now? That may not have been part of the game when you were with the Jets of the giants.
00:34:43
Uh, the majority and strength training.
00:34:47
I mean, that's my saying.
00:34:48
I think you got it Just emphasized the power in the explosion that that you're gonna need a place to the next level are the god**** speed is even up a knife.
00:35:00
By using a guy like myself, I played in the SUV scene, which is competitive conference, but that's probably built it in a pair of the game.
00:35:08
Steve was even up the nuts, just playing with my drills.
00:35:12
Like I make sure they're going under 100%.
00:35:16
They'll get a full recovery boat, make sure they're going 100 girls.
00:35:20
So that way they can get usedto parents asking Karen rebels through John, thanks so much for your time tonight.
00:35:27
Where is the best way for people to catch up with you via social media and check out everything you're up to these days? Okay, so my twitter and my instagram kind of Jake on a J. Connor 38.
00:35:40
Uh, so that's that's a definite happily my training facilities, unbreakable lifestyle.
00:35:47
Very cool, you know.
00:35:48
And what's also cool about your nickname is that that franchise keeps on pumping out movies and it's back again.
00:35:54
You know it's his back, so the nickname will never go away.
00:35:59
The Terminator Thanks so much, John.
00:36:01
We really appreciate it.
00:36:03
Thanks for having a problem.
00:36:04
You got determinate of John Connor.
00:36:06
You know what? You know the guy could flat out, basically block, also beside from from running, you know, like when he laid a hit on somebody, they felt it.
00:36:15
Yeah.
00:36:16
Those hard knot clips were special teams of here just coming full speed down the field, blowing people up.
00:36:21
In fact, in Cincinnati, when he got cut right, the only reason why they cut him is because the other guy was younger and they showed the guy saying, Listen, he's actually better than you and showed him the clips of what he did on special teams.
00:36:34
But they kept the younger guy because they felt that there was more of a future and the injuries, there was a lot of injuries.
00:36:39
Yeah, yeah, And again, that was towards the tail end of the full back in the NFL, which is it's is so strange the way the game has just changed so quickly and positions change, and just the way the game is played changing.
00:36:54
The philosophy has changed, though, to like in today's game, not having you know, extra tight ends on the end to help out either of the lines.
00:37:02
Both lines were in trouble, right where they were had injuries.
00:37:05
And you have a young quarterback to bear on the coach.
00:37:08
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying is the coaching philosophies of trying to get the best out of your guys by helping them putting them in the best position.
00:37:15
All right, we're gonna take a quick break on the other side.
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It's time now for our NHL report will bring in Russ Cohn, who could be heard here each and every week over 5 40 AM Sports Talk New York You know, Russ, we have to start with the New York Islanders.
00:39:54
Just phenomenal.
00:39:55
12 3 and one plus 14 differential.
00:39:59
8 to 11 at home, four and one on the road.
00:40:02
Just been phenomenal.
00:40:04
We know you can't really say enough about trots and the system instils in his team.
00:40:11
You know, you take a look at their roster.
00:40:13
Are they as talented as the Capitals in St Louis? Problem or the Bruins? Probably not even close, but they're right there.
00:40:20
So So what is it about his system that allows them to compete, game in and game out.
00:40:26
They just they all buy in.
00:40:28
They stand you up to the blue line.
00:40:30
They make every play hard.
00:40:32
They're on you every second.
00:40:34
They're just looking for mistakes to get offensive chances, and this does work in the regular season.
00:40:40
It didn't work throughout the playoffs last year, got him to the second round.
00:40:43
Right then they got swept.
00:40:45
I don't know if we get him any further this year, but it is amazing.
00:40:49
Although I'm gonna tell you I have a little truck criticism because they sent down our walls from and, you know, trots is like a He's got great skill in everything else.
00:40:57
Now we have to learn everything else about the game, and it's like, Well, Barry like, why won't you teach him? You know, But that's the problem with some of these coaches.
00:41:07
Now they you know, they get so stuck on themselves and their systems and liking veterans that they wanted to give a kid like that a chance.
00:41:16
So will that come back and bite him? Maybe because he doesn't need some offense, but he doesn't see it right now because we're on a huge winning streak.
00:41:22
We'll take a look at the guys that the younger guy here's the interesting thing.
00:41:26
So you know when you're bad for that long, Um, things happen, you get draft picks.
00:41:32
And we said this about Ed Minton.
00:41:34
You know why being bad so long? Haven't they've turned around now Ed Minton has.
00:41:40
And you take a look, Edmund, tonight, at least they're young guys.
00:41:43
They start cycling them in.
00:41:44
You take a look.
00:41:45
It took a long time for Michael Dell Cole to get here.
00:41:48
All right, Josh hosts, um you know, I don't know what's going on with hosting and that Wall Street.
00:41:52
So what about these young guys that the islanders don't really truly embrace, you know, giving them the time to develop up here and maybe accelerating them, you know, to the point where they can get to that next level.
00:42:07
Well, I mean, to get ah, young guy to fully commit to a 200 for game and play that rock solid defense first. It's hard.
00:42:17
It's not something that they do learn along the way.
00:42:21
There's very few players that loan that at an early age So now, Trot, sort of Put that on the, uh, Bridgeport coach to teach that to the players because you don't have time for that.
00:42:33
And that's great while things are going great.
00:42:36
But when they're not, you know, then he might change his tune on that and host saying I'm not even sure he reported that he ever I don't think so.
00:42:45
I don't think so either.
00:42:46
So he he might be in, like, the in the ether right now, which is a terrible place for that kid today.
00:42:51
I mean, I just you know, he brought some of this on himself, but he didn't bring all this.
00:42:56
They're not treating them right, Understood.
00:42:58
And you know what, then trade him.
00:42:59
You know, you're he's obviously never going to get here because this this never ends.
00:43:05
Well, when a player refuses to report, the team refuses to play him.
00:43:09
So trade him, just gets a massive form and be done because this is not good for any of them.
00:43:15
Now you know the Rangers, with their rebuild, you take a look and basically playing all the young players.
00:43:21
But they also have a lot of young players that in Hartford and their six of you know that they're in first place.
00:43:26
And the goaltender, you know, that we always said, is the heir apparent to Henrik is six and one, and he's just been unworldly there, too.
00:43:34
So how long can you keep your starting down at Hartford and are the the Rangers doing what Gordon want to do in that setting the foundation in Hartford for years to come? And this is the way the organization, that's what J.
00:43:49
D.
00:43:50
Did the other two places in Columbus in St Louis is setting the foundation first in the minors and carrying it through? How much is that going on in Harford? Right now, it's going on a lot.
00:44:00
I'm gonna give Chris Terreri a lot of credit for that.
00:44:02
He's been spearheading that for a few years now.
00:44:05
David Quinn's also another one of these coaches now that the Rebels over isn't teaching as much either.
00:44:10
But they are still teaching in Hartford and chest again.
00:44:14
It's interesting because he we all know you can do it, but you have to come over North American prove it in last year, really same.
00:44:21
So enough had trouble for half a season, but he also wasn't 23.
00:44:24
The fact that you know Chesterton is 23 really helps.
00:44:28
The 9 35 is just great.
00:44:30
Uh, if the Rangers somehow fall out of it, could they trade? You'll give up the, uh, the deadline and then bring him up.
00:44:37
Yeah, I think that could happen.
00:44:39
If they stay competitive, then he might have to wait till next year, but by next year he'll be the Rangers back up and your gavel got traded that I would almost guarantee that it's been interesting in the rebuilder.
00:44:48
Was this this moment this past week where the Rangers started your G of two games in a row in a kind of fit them three games in a row? Nicole put them in the butt.
00:44:55
They put a Henrik Lundquist and he plays out of his mind.
00:44:58
Coach Quintin mentioned his load management, which I definitely agree with, where are 37 year old goalie? But where's the balance there and then, like you said, there's 1/3 goalie in the wings.
00:45:08
How are they gonna kind of figure this out? Well, that's that's the thing.
00:45:11
You never hold on to that third guy for too long.
00:45:15
The interesting thing was with your you have waas.
00:45:18
That was sort of like his opportunity to maybe swipe 10 games away from Henrik this year, and and he failed at it because he's not used to do any of it harder than it looks.
00:45:28
And so that's something where it shows the world of Lundquist.
00:45:32
Even so long, quick hater.
00:45:33
So right now it's status quo.
00:45:35
Hendrick will still get the lion's share, but less than he normally would get, in case they do make it in the playoffs.
00:45:41
And like I said, I think Chester Game could be up there by the, uh, by the trading deadline.
00:45:47
I think your gift could get a nice price at the deadline.
00:45:50
Will be teams looking for goalies.
00:45:51
There would be no reason to go into next year or three goals you wouldn't have.
00:45:55
You wouldn't do it, and I wouldn't do it interesting.
00:45:58
You know, I think Quinn, in some respects, is dodging a little bored here.
00:46:02
Beings of mark stalls injury.
00:46:04
Yeah, I don't know how he's gonna juggle that.
00:46:06
It make everyone happy.
00:46:08
It looked like Brady shaped marks calls.
00:46:10
Injury was awfully convenient.
00:46:11
I do want to point that out.
00:46:12
And I do want to point out that carpet stores Adam Husky, too.
00:46:15
So they technically have 1/4.
00:46:17
But he hasn't got a lot of press, right, that's true.
00:46:19
But the issue for me is you know that I think having that guy and being able to, you know, have someone pushing you.
00:46:28
And if you have a bad game like Brady, she had a couple.
00:46:31
You know, being able to scratch a guy is not the worst thing.
00:46:34
But when it is your veteran, it kind of in some respects is like, you know, send shockwaves in the Twitter world.
00:46:42
So I think in some respects, you know, maybe Stall gets a little too weak blow here, takes care of his infection in his ankle and then comes back and they continue that rotation.
00:46:52
But I'll tell you, I like what I've seen of linguine.
00:46:55
Uh, tell me the Angelo is a next level and the guy you love game in and game out.
00:47:01
You can just see the confidence growing in Adam Fox and the pass is he's making and the things he's doing.
00:47:06
But the guy really has and this is a guy that I loved, and I said, You know, when we talked about guys coming back, it was Ryan Strome.
00:47:13
It was one of the guys.
00:47:14
I didn't want them to trade.
00:47:15
The guy has definitely elevated his game this year, you know, playing better players.
00:47:20
So what do you make A fox, linguine and Strom thus far? Well, yeah, Foxes is steady as she goes, linger and does add that physical element and the you'll stick up for his teammates.
00:47:32
That's That's a great thing.
00:47:34
D'Angelo has really added a physical element to his game as well.
00:47:37
But the even strength points are crazy for a goal for a defenseman, just crazy.
00:47:42
Good.
00:47:43
And now we're starting to get more power play time.
00:47:44
So they they literally stole him.
00:47:47
And right now, you know, I even get funded.
00:47:49
Smith credit, like he's actually added something.
00:47:52
I don't know if he's just taking time away from a youngster, though, and so maybe they'll trade him, but at least sort of like a defensive forward. He's added something.
00:48:01
So all these things seem to be working for the Rangers, and right now it's hard to argue that they're not better without Mark stole.
00:48:09
I know that sounds bad, but it seems that way.
00:48:12
I kind of agree.
00:48:13
But he is a steady, steadying influence on those young defenseman.
00:48:17
And I think a lot can be learned from him with him around in the locker room and on the ice, especially as a defensive defenseman with all these offensive defenseman up.
00:48:25
We need some defense.
00:48:26
Absolutely. Yeah.
00:48:27
All right, Russ, we appreciate Russ Cohen here.
00:48:30
All right, You know what? We didn't get to the Devils, which I think we need to You take a look.
00:48:35
Number one draft pick. Overall.
00:48:37
The ad Piquet. Superman.
00:48:38
We talked about this last week.
00:48:39
You know, two coaches I think are now on the hot seat.
00:48:42
I think Hines and maybe John Tortorella might be starting to feel the heat a little bit.
00:48:47
What do you make of the devil's thus far.
00:48:48
And you think John Tortorella is is on the hot seat at this point torch.
00:48:53
I don't think it is on the hot seat.
00:48:55
And John Heinz now he still could be.
00:48:59
Although he did have a good game today.
00:49:03
They beat the Canucks to one in the battle of the Hughes brothers.
00:49:06
I like the fact that the younger brother's team one because I'm a younger brother and I always root for the younger brother over the older brother.
00:49:13
Screw them.
00:49:14
And but this is This is a nice way to one shows that maybe things were starting to come around a little defensively for them.
00:49:23
They've got to start, you know, proven it because somehow they got to try and keep Taylor Hall there and pay him a boatload of money or get a lot for him in the trade.
00:49:31
But things do seem to be leveling out enough to keep finding jobs safer.
00:49:35
At least you know, through American Thanksgiving.
00:49:38
All right, we appreciate it.
00:49:40
Russ Cohen, her each and every week on 5 40 in Sports talk New York, we turn from the ice, we go to the hardwood and, you know, we bring in time topic.
00:49:49
I am.
00:49:50
Before I let Ryan take over the basketball segment, I just got to say this, You know, as much as you know, Nick fans wanted Kyrie, Irving and everything.
00:49:59
You take a look at what the Celtics are doing without Kyrie and you take a look at what the Nets are doing with Kyrie.
00:50:06
Did we over inflate what this guy means to a team? I mean, we heard reports that he wasn't the best of teammates.
00:50:13
Looks like the Celtics are better without him.
00:50:16
And how much better on the Nets with him? Well, that's an interesting question.
00:50:20
Well, then, that's really improved with Carrie, every morsel, anything else? Is that there a box office draw? Um, when we were discussing the possibility of Kyrie Irving coming to the next, I wasn't high on Carrier.
00:50:33
Honestly, I don't want every every game I never did for me.
00:50:36
A point guard, that ball dominant.
00:50:38
That's a nice, slow player that look to dribble out the clock.
00:50:40
I saw that.
00:50:41
I saw that Stefan Marbury.
00:50:42
I mean, I've seen that unless you're Steph Curry, a really good facilitator as well.
00:50:47
That game doesn't really mesh to me from the point guard position, but the real draw Kyrie Irving was that he came with Kevin Durant, that it was a package deal.
00:50:56
Um, we've seen the Celtics improved with Kyrie Irving out there in the first place.
00:51:00
Why they let him go.
00:51:02
It's important to note that the Celtics didn't just lose Kyrie Irving.
00:51:05
Though it wasn't addition by subtraction, General Walker's a pretty **** good point card in his own right, and they're a team that are, I guess, um, the summer's better than the parts Jason Tatum.
00:51:16
Give him room to play, get Let me get out of the way and he doesn't really nice job.
00:51:20
Um, there a movement team, they're a pick and roll team.
00:51:23
They're not a stop in wash team, and that was never bread, even waste.
00:51:26
I think they are better.
00:51:27
That carrier every but also with Kemba Walker.
00:51:30
The next they got Kevin Durant and with it came carry over, and I think that's kind of the way they looked at it to a large degree and not down.
00:51:39
Sorry, not to break it down too much with the numbers, but they have almost four players averaging 20 points a game, So they're really sharing the ball and Kimball walking Kember.
00:51:48
Walker was a guy that you wanted the Knicks to go after.
00:51:51
You know how much different with the Knicks look with Kemba Walker? Well, I mean the biggest issue for the Knicks right now, and that's obviously justice say, because once they get Kimble Walker, who knows where the next dominoes earn free agency they have.
00:52:04
Their entire roster is comprised of planned, the free agent signing.
00:52:08
But, um, Kevin Walker gives them instant credibility at the point.
00:52:11
Garbage is what they're missing.
00:52:13
You have a young center in Mitchell, Rob it and thats you know that all the envy exactly talking about is an up and coming star.
00:52:20
You have R.
00:52:22
J.
00:52:23
Barrett, who has looked very much the real deal.
00:52:24
In short, in short, for Enemy in the n B.
00:52:27
A self are Kevin Knox looks maybe not what he was projected as last year, but like a very good three indeed. Prospect.
00:52:34
Very least, frankly, Latina showing signs of life.
00:52:37
I had a great summer with friends, um, looking more compan on the offense.
00:52:41
Still the defensive stalwart that he's been.
00:52:43
There are some pieces.
00:52:44
They're they're missing a point sort, and Kevin Walker would have gone a long way insulting that, at least in helping that, um, Boston, in terms of the, um, several 55 scores, 5 20 point scores, I think you mentioned um, yeah, that's Brad Stevens.
00:53:02
Rascal.
00:53:03
That's what they were before when it was Terry Rose.
00:53:04
You're running the point.
00:53:05
They were that exactly.
00:53:06
Gordon Hayward was a very valuable piece.
00:53:09
Um, when Carrie every dribbling.
00:53:12
Um, we're not in the corner.
00:53:14
Yeah, exactly.
00:53:15
So the story of the week definitely is Kawai, the Clippers and load management.
00:53:20
So can you bring us through? This were DZ case of events the other day where the MBA approved of the way that they had handled the injury and we're gonna have him take the game off to switching and then finding the team 50 grand.
00:53:33
I say it's the ****edest thing, the league trying to save face.
00:53:36
And honestly, it's a losing battle load Management has 1/10 of the sports vernacular.
00:53:42
At the very least, the n v a vernacular, um, you know, old school or brother, be Charles Barkley.
00:53:48
Anybody who's played in any generation fire to this kind of laughs and Scott's with the idea, but that that's what the NBA's gonna maintain its schedule this long with playoffs that go this deep.
00:54:00
It's an inevitability you're seeing in a baseball, too.
00:54:02
Um, you're seeing guys, you know, pull the old guys.
00:54:05
Talk about how pictures aren't going.
00:54:07
Not eating anymore.
00:54:08
That's not the game.
00:54:09
They're saving them for the postseason.
00:54:11
Um, the n b a initially when he has Sure, Go ahead.
00:54:14
And then I was I mean, if you're gonna come down on people for load management, then they asked you in to save face and went ahead and did So um, honestly, I think it's a losing battle, and I think shooter later, the NBA's gonna have to realize that, especially because it worked, right? So the reason that Kuai Leonard wanted out of San Antonio so much is because he didn't like the way that they were handling him.
00:54:36
He goes to Toronto, He played about 60 games and he was unbelievable in the playoffs.
00:54:42
And so it worked in the summer.
00:54:44
He's being courted by all these teams, and the Clippers came to him and said, We will do this with you.
00:54:48
We were with you on this plan.
00:54:50
So how is it that an MBA franchise can be on board? But the MBA is a whole isn't well, because the n v.
00:54:57
A has to deal with fan outrage.
00:54:59
Um, listen, if you buy season tickets to see the L. A. Clippers, this season.
00:55:03
You've paid your tickets in terms of the outcry of you already paid for them and the star players not playing that something at the end.
00:55:10
A officers have to deal with.
00:55:11
Look, I would love.
00:55:12
I cannot wait president to go after the Lakers.
00:55:15
LeBron is not playing on every game, not even close.
00:55:19
Second night of Active Max.
00:55:20
As good as he's been, he is very, very careful to preserve himself for the playoffs, especially as he gets older and he has to carry more than share the load in L.
00:55:29
A.
00:55:30
Again, there's no way he's playing every game, and I can't imagine an MBA where Adam Silver goes after LeBron James resting up after injury plagued season at the age of 34 35.
00:55:39
Um, yeah, it works, and it's an inevitability.
00:55:43
And again, um, as mentioned prior, that this is a losing battle of the NBA's gonna just have to take the l on and just cash out.
00:55:51
I agree.
00:55:52
You take a look at the old school NHL on the goalie's used to play, you know, 75 they're the wrong goalie.
00:55:58
You know, if you were coming to see Henrik Lundquist and you've got the backup.
00:56:01
You're like, Oh, you know what? That is A loss today? Yeah, that's that's the nature of the game.
00:56:05
You want your guys playing in June in the playoffs? April matter. Alright. Time.
00:56:09
We appreciate it.
00:56:10
Kind of tower here each and every week with the N b. A report. Ah.
00:56:13
Wanted you to keep it tuned right here.
00:56:14
We're gonna interest in spot on the top of the hour.
00:56:17
Ah, person that got to sing the national anthem in all 50 states, I believe today at the Knick game, a 96 year old guy did the national anthem.
00:56:24
World War Two Vet on his for Monica.
00:56:27
Um, we'll talk a lot about the national anthem on the other side, so we want you to keep it tuned right here.
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It's a perfect time for this spot.
01:03:24
August 28th 2014 the year which Francis Scott Key's song turned 200.
01:03:30
You completed a two year journey and became the first person to from the national anthem in all 50 states.
01:03:35
So how do you wake up one morning and say, I want to perform The Star Spangled Banner in all 50 states? What was the inspiration behind? Oh, it wasn't just waking up one morning.
01:03:45
Um, it was definitely, uh just go off wanting to do something to make a difference, using the fact that I love to sing the national anthem, and it kind of just evolved.
01:03:58
You know, it was just something where one day I did realize that I sang it in a few states, and then I looked it up to see if there's anybody ever did it on all 50.
01:04:09
So that's kind of how it sort of just came about, but very, very interesting, Um, way that, you know, you start to think, Well, there's something that no one else has done.
01:04:24
So this will be really cool, but you don't realize all the other things that are gonna happen as a result, which is all captured in the movie, so I don't have toe go into too much detail.
01:04:33
I don't want to give away the.
01:04:35
It's interesting to think that no one's ever done that, and that kind of shocked me as well.
01:04:40
You performed the national anthem in high profile boxing rings.
01:04:43
Major League baseball stadiums occuring NASCAR NFL events in some less high profile events is donkey basketball tournaments, car show tens and even at the center of the universe in an Idaho mining town.
01:04:55
How did you go about mapping out the journey in which venue of all the places you've played meant the most to you.
01:05:04
Well, I meant it out.
01:05:06
Kind of by saying, if if I get to one spot, where could I drive? You know, So you live in one location, and then that kind of came about just trial.
01:05:16
And I'm realizing, like, Okay, it's gonna be really expensive.
01:05:19
If I fly all these places, how could I kind of like having an anchor city? Um, and I was just a lot of phone calls.
01:05:26
It was a lot of me e mailing or having a conversation with the, uh, athletic, you know, athletic directors of colleges.
01:05:35
Or it was, you know, the field director entertainment director from some major league sports team and just telling them what I was trying to do.
01:05:44
Um, after I was on national news, it was a lot easier.
01:05:48
But in the beginning, people really didn't know what to think.
01:05:51
E o.
01:05:53
You're not getting paid to sing the national anthem.
01:05:56
They're not paying you to do this.
01:05:57
Like you're telling me you want to fly out to this city.
01:06:02
Um, okay.
01:06:04
You know what? A jury You could something you know, It's also interesting.
01:06:09
All the places I just mentioned it.
01:06:11
It's a very diverse list and a very different fan base for each one of those.
01:06:17
Did you find as a performer that any particular fan base was more into the song than others? That's a good question.
01:06:26
Um, you know, I think that baseball kind of like it's a summer game.
01:06:32
Everybody's outside.
01:06:34
Uh, that seems to have a pretty good audience, but really, there was nothing that struck me as Oh geez, this is not, you know, PVR.
01:06:44
I sang at a lot of a Pro Bowl aerators event.
01:06:47
Those were very patriotic.
01:06:50
Um, just think a lot of times you just the energy you put out the crowd feels it, and then it kind of goes back and forth.
01:07:01
I always say, Look for veterans that are standing in the crowd.
01:07:03
You could always tell that you're a rendering a salute.
01:07:06
It's just a certain, um, look, they have that I always kind of focused on them, so I'm not really kind of like scanning too much when I'm singing that song.
01:07:15
But it's really interesting because the roots as to why we sing the national anthem before a sporting event can be traced back to the seventh inning stretch of Game one of the 1918 world Siris in Comiskey Park.
01:07:27
The van erupted into the Star Spangled Banner.
01:07:29
The Cubs and the Red Sox players, all of a sudden, turned and faced the center fields flagpole sitta attention.
01:07:34
The crowd it was already on their feet began to sing along and applauded at the end of the song.
01:07:38
So, given that positive reaction, the band played This are in the next two games, and when the series moved to Boston, the Red Sox owner brought the band in, had them play it again.
01:07:47
And it's remained a constant, given that even though you've completed the 50 States Quest, would you want to sing it Comiskey or World Siris Game? Given its connection to the anthem, of course, yes, I mean, any time I get to name it after having done it in all 50 states, there's just I feel like I can pull from all the different experiences I had.
01:08:09
No, I said a bunch of times.
01:08:11
I'll say it all the time.
01:08:12
It's for me.
01:08:13
It's not just, uh oh, here we go again.
01:08:16
Got a sing the song, you know, and knowing there's nostalgia around something like that, I would love to. Yeah, absolutely.
01:08:23
You know, the song requires a vocal range that sightly slightly exceeds an octave and 1/2.
01:08:28
It's not an easy song to sing by any means.
01:08:31
As a beat reporter being at rinks and baseball fields early, I've seen numerous anthem singers rehearsing in an empty stadium.
01:08:39
What are the adjustments you have to make when you sing early it before pregame rehearsing, And then when the stadium fills up, it does absorb a little bit of a sound.
01:08:50
Um, you know, but sometimes really hard.
01:08:53
And some of the stadium's kind of joked and said they kind of heard my first note when I was in my car driving home because it was a delay.
01:09:02
It's so it, depending on where they placed you in the stadium, if they give you in your monitors, that could be helpful from Pump is not as hopeful, but I think the people ever asked me for advice.
01:09:16
When you're in a situation like that, you really have to train yourself.
01:09:19
Just basically listen to what is inside of your head and not trying to hear what you sound like.
01:09:26
That is when people I can't screw up it's interesting.
01:09:31
The lyrics come from the defense of Fort McHenry, a poem written on September 14th 18 14 by then 35 year old lawyer and amateur poet Francis Scott Key, after witnessing them a barman of Fort McHenry by British ships of the Royal Navy in Baltimore Harbor during the vow of Baltimore.
01:09:46
Ah, he was inspired by the large U.
01:09:48
S.
01:09:49
Flag with 15 stars and stripes known as the Star Spangled Banner flying triumphantly above the fourth during the U. S. Victory.
01:09:55
How much of the history of the anthem and Francis Scott Key did you know, prior to embarking? And as you were going on this journey, did you find out interesting facts about it that you had not known? Uh, well, I didn't know when I was just had said, Oh, I'm gonna sing in all 50 states in the beginning.
01:10:14
If you watched the movie, you'll see.
01:10:16
I was sort of not at that point where I was in.
01:10:19
The pressure cooker of the national anthem is turning 200.
01:10:21
I didn't even know how old the song was when I initially did it, You know, for me, it was aware.
01:10:26
Could use what I felt was my talent to use my voice are our grace.
01:10:31
And as I was, I was in Baltimore when I realized the national anthem was going to turn 200 just nine months.
01:10:41
So it was early, 2014 and then I started to learn about it.
01:10:45
What was really, really amazing.
01:10:46
Woz, uh, after I finished all 50 states I was singing.
01:10:52
So I finished on August 28 2014.
01:10:54
But then September 14th Fort McHenry had asked me to sing because they were doing this huge celebration of over 100,000 people, both more.
01:11:03
And I was on the train from New York, headed to Baltimore, and I got a call from the Coast Guard and they said, Would you like to, um, thing? Actually, no.
01:11:14
It was just Would you like to come aboard? Cut a riotous during the 2/100 anniversary after you finish it for Henry could watch the Marine jokes fly.
01:11:22
And absolutely So what ended up happening, though, is after I sang at Fort McHenry, I was taken aboard, Cut arriving by the coast guard, and they took me to a star spangled buoy.
01:11:34
There's an actual booty that gets dropped in the beginning of the season, where it marks the approximate location.
01:11:41
Francis Scott Key was loaded when he saw that our flag was still there.
01:11:45
You've got really good eyesight because it's not very.
01:11:48
It's pretty far away.
01:11:51
So I ended up getting to sing in his line of flight 200 years to the day, which was, uh, excuse me chills to think about it even now because it could have never been orchestrated.
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Can have, like, five public is working on something like that.
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It just happened to be, and I I kind of say it.
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That's what happens when you take chances when you believe in something that's bigger than yourself and start moving, putting one foot in front of the other.
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It seems like all these things start to happen.
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So, yeah, there was a lot, but I think I actually met some of his relatives when I would go with speaking at places people be like, Hey, I'm a distant relative of him, um, things like that.
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But it's just amazing to me thio to know that that song when people stand and sing that song you.
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The hope is that everyone, even the world, divided in many other ways that we are united to say We're honoring our veterans The humans that have written a blank check saying they give up to and including their lives for our country, Absolutely.
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Is there a moment when you're singing it? Is there Ah, particular line in the song that's your favorite or a particular part of the song because of the way it's sung? That is your your moment in the song.
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What's funny is people have noticed this, and I didn't realize it until people pointed it out that I actually point.
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And when I think that our flag was still there, I put my hand up when I kind of point and I I'm Italian, tell you from Long Island were expressive, and I think for me to me, knowing what that all means, you know you're defending a fort, which means that there's a different plan that starts flying boom.
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You know it's over game over, and the fact that these men att the time back in the 18 14 were giving their lives and to make sure that that didn't happen in such a pivotal battle.
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Yeah, it's like, Wow, our flag still there.
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And then my 49 state was Hawaii's Pearl Harbor. The U S A.
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Very aboard the USS Missouri.
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And think flying above the Arizona, even though it's very, is our flag still there? It's just that common red is just the camaraderie and the fact that we can all get behind, uh, the amazing access our that the men in them and have done and continue to d'oh.
01:14:23
And you've added that to to it as well, Because at the end of each performance, you provided line cards for 10 days to write messages to deployed military and veterans.
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Why did you choose to incorporate that element into your appearance? And how has that been received? Well, I was doing this whole mission because I wanted to give back.
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I usedto Lovell in L.
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A.
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And for about nine years I'd always be hearing myself say, You know, when I make it big, then I'll give back.
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I got really tired of hearing myself say that also coming to the like realization, like what actually constitutes making a big What, Are you happy with something, you know? So, yeah, I was singing, you know, um, to give back.
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But what was what I really wanted to do is provide something a little bit more tangible.
01:15:08
Uh, we'll put audience numbers that was patched, their gratitude, thio something that they actually wrote, and it would be delivered.
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And it was really, really wrong with you.
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I didn't realize that that would become the moment for me.
01:15:21
That is that, like, it was just like I didn't care about making it big anymore.
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I was so involved in collecting these thank you notes and then having me the moment.
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I mean, I met 92 year old World War two veterans who stormed Normandy on D Day.
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Gave me such amazing advice to pass along to people.
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I talk about him wherever I go speaking corporate events, and where I go, I talk about Cliff.
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Um, and all these things would have never happened if you know, I didn't have these cards that I just kind of hate when we just see if I could call up in these cars and I didn't realize how well received it would've wound, but I still do things like that.
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It has some called Janine team.
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Anybody could go to my website, national Anthem Girl and just Goto join Gene's team. That's the page.
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And every month about I have a different mission where people are still wedding cards for veterans that I get and deliver them.
01:16:19
That's awesome.
01:16:21
You know, so many great singers have taken on the anthem some with huge success, others Not so much.
01:16:27
Um, aside from your own version, is there a version out there that you just like every time you hear it go? Wow, they nailed it.
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I mean, Whitney, Houston and Bobby, You can't You can't top what she did.
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I think it was also the timing of it.
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And, um, you know, Howard, just you just witnessed a huge arena of people all coming together, and that was my goal.
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This was before any protests were happening.
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You know, this is in 2014 where I really felt like for 90 seconds, we all put our agendas aside and we're united under one, cause not if you look at that on YouTube. Her video.
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I mean, it just shows that so any that's one of the standout one.
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For me, Your journey is also the basis of the new Amazon Prime do***entary National Anthem Girl, produced by Kelly Filmworks.
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You provide the narration as the do***ent do***entary follows your self financed two year journey to spread American pride on display.
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Gratitude for the brave men and women the anthem represents.
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After seeing the do***entary and having the opportunity toe to step back and reflect on what you were able accomplish, What is your takeaway from that? Those two years on the road? Well, two things, Number one.
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I just think there's so much more that can be done.
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Um, but the second thing is just that Wow, what would have happened if I didn't, you know, And I think that something could all stop and ask ourselves.
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I tell this to audiences young and old. You're never too young.
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You're never too old to make a difference.
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And I think What what I was really happy that the film captured was this wasn't something.
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This film is not about me, you know.
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It's basically an illustration to say What can you do? And there's a quote that I always refer to in my talks.
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You know Roosevelt that do what you can with what you have, where you are, and that's what I did.
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I didn't have ah, corporate budget behind me.
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Thankfully, I was able to do some crash landing in the middle of it, which raised enough money for me to get towards, you know, two through to the end.
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But it's really about challenging ourselves as individuals.
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I'm not waiting for somebody to handle something, but a Well, what can I do? You know, what can I do? It? Would I have e Excuse me and then just see what happens.
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A za result.
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It's pretty cool.
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Lastly, it's pretty amazing for all 50 states.
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No events were ever cancelled, a rained out, but something strange happened at the very last event.
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So can you tell our audience a little bit about that and how you took it as a sign? Yeah, Um, so painfully that we're no going out events.
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There were a couple that were near misses that. Then there was a backup.
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Um, again, I was on a very, very tight budget.
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So if somebody had canceled an event, um, I was out of AA flight and everything else and then you didn't know it was gonna happen in the scheduling later on.
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So, um yeah, there was.
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I hate to give it away because I feel like if people go to Amazon prime and watch that movie, the buildup for it is just so important.
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I can't do it justice by saying all the all I will say is it's amazing to me that it happened in the 50 estate and how it could have if the timing was just slightly off.
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We This could have been a completely different story, and it just it just wrapped it up like a bow like a gift, you know, like here it is.
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Um, and I was so humbled for it have happened.
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The one thing I'll say is there were people later on that told me that it was the thing that happened only happened in the vicinity that I was, and it wasn't even a mile away from anywhere.
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Oh, yeah, definitely giving you that.
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That's a great to use, and I believe so.
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So where can people see this great do***entary? Which, by the way, a portion of proceeds from the film are being nominated? Several organization whose sole purpose is supportive.
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U.
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S military personnel past in president? Yep.
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Folds of honor on operation Gratitude Every quarter of the film company, which has been so often they're donating money from the proceeds to help other nonprofits.
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So you can go Anna von Crime just like national anthem Girl.
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You could watch it if you watch it and you like it.
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Write a review.
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If you don't like it, don't worry about it.
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You and then you could also go to an awesome girl.
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Doc dot com anthem girl doc dot com If you want to actually buy the physical DVD, they're also doing screening.
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So if there's anyone who has a nonprofit or organization that you'd like to have some type of screening events so that you could raise money for your charity, that is the website to go to to get more information for that as well.
01:21:31
So it's available has actually been aired on some cable all across the world.
01:21:37
Actually, I was getting e mails from Angola, Australia, allover the world, its unseen, but to goto Amazon promise, probably the easiest of all the options.
01:21:51
Awesome.
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Janine's Ang National anthem girl.
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Thank you so much for your time tonight.
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More importantly, thanks for a great project and a great film.
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We really appreciate it.
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Yeah, and I just want to say to any veterans out there who are listening Thank you so much for your service and your sacrifice and happy.
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That's from the big moral.
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I couldn't say it any better.
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All right, so this national anthem took place.
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You know, I scoured the Internet for what I felt was the worst version of national anthem in the recorded history of national anthems.
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All right, this was at the Morro Cup.
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Halifax versus Portland.
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This is a, ah, Canadian jazz singer Alexis Norman's.
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This is her rendition of our national anthem.
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So this week the Mets had a press conference and they, you know, announced Carlos Beltran as their new manager.
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Um, you and I, we spoke.
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We, you know, I was on the offense with non experience and I kind of said, You're right, This is no way I got to get over it One of the things that Carlos said in the media scrum, which I found fascinating.
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Ah, we all talk about ****ytics, and that's why we need these new age managers that they can embrace ****ytics and what Carlos said, which was very intuitive.
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I thought Carlo said that a You'd have to be a fool not to use ****ytics.
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But it is the role of the manager to understand which players can grasp the enormity of the data and which ones can only use a little bit, he said, Because some players will just shut down if you give them too much and it's his job to understand which players will thrive with tons of information and which drive with just a little.
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So you know, that being said, what did you make of the initial press conference and what are your initial feelings now, after you've heard from Carlos? Well, I want to say that Carlos is absolutely right in terms of in terms of applying ****ytics to different players.
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I mean, you could see even from following players on Twitter, which players all receptive the ****ytics and with which players might not be, it isn't it is a new age.
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Now.
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It is a new way of doing things, and you d you've got to bring out the best in every player.
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The role of the manager has shifted.
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We've talked about it many times, and, uh, and I think it's kind of the same as it was before, whereas whereas back in the sixties and seventies, it was talking about mechanics and hitting.
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And you don't want to give certain players that much in terms of in terms of how they're swinging or their mechanics or pitching and what not starting guys, You can do that, too.
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But certain guys, you, you let get through it themselves.
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Now it's the ****ytic.
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So I think that's a very good ah, very stupid point by Beltran.
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I mean, listen, we've got we've got a clean slate with Carlos.
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Everything is going to be is a lot of things that are gonna be new to him.
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It depends on what he what he picks up on, how he's utilized.
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Look, the front of the Foreign Office is going to control Ah, lot of that stuff that managers used to use to control.
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Carlos will have different, different roles, and we'll see how he adjusts to them.
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One of the things and I, you know, I have been a Brody supporter, one of things that Brody said kind of rub me the wrong way.
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And I think it was kind of throwing ****ey under the bus a little bit, Um, where they asked him, You know, what was one of the things that stood out about Carlos? And he said, Well, Carlos is the, you know, for me.
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I want to be able to go into the manager's office and, um, exhale, as opposed to inhale.
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And that to me, kind of, you know, with saying that every time he would be going into ****ey is one of those moments, you know, and that kind of rub me the wrong way because I think ****ey was for the most part of good soldier.
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He did what was asked of him, And, you know, and all, all things considered did not do an awful job here.
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No, I agree.
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And I thought it funny.
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I I read that quote Thio.
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I thought it funny that the guy who said that was the guy that threw a chair in coaches meeting.
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So I mean, if that's not the definition off of having guys clinch a little tight when they're around you, I don't know what it is.
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Yeah.
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Calloway had to blow the very public blowup with the reporter and got and Jason Vargas got involved? Yes, absolutely.
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But his team's never stopped playing for him.
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So s so obviously there was some comfort level, but that's a Met thing to d'oh.
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You know? And that's something that the Foreign Office has done anonymously for years.
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They they trashed Justin Turner going out the door.
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They trashed Sandy Alderson.
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They trashed Marlon Byrd.
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They trashed a lot of people to kind of justify their moves.
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And Brody is apparently picked that up are, at the very least, he's he's done it and put his name to it.
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He didn't do it anonymously, but yeah, I would agree that with that quote, struck me a little odd.
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All right.
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The other thing, you gotta love the Internet and you know people with sharp eyes.
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Ah, a former guest of ours evidently is, Ah, guy that's being considered for the spends coach.
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And the way he found about found out about it was through Twitter because, ah, the picture of Carlos Beltran signing his contract.
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There's a little folder in the corner with Jerry Narron's pencil.
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Get on it.
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Um, you know, I don't think Terry's going to be the bench coaches originally rumored.
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I think that Terry will be a sounding board and a mentor for sure, but I have a feeling that Jerry Narron would be a very good place to start.
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What do you thoughts on the the opening for a bench coach for the Mets? Well, it's It's interesting because they brought injured Jim Riggleman to kind of do the same thing with ****ey Callaway, to give them to drive him a little bit and give him a little guidance.
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And from from all the little subterranean things that I've heard, Riggleman really didn't do all that much, and it didn't really work out as thought.
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So So it's it's gonna be interesting to see who they are, who they sign I for one.
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I think Terry Smart did not take the job.
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I think he I think he'd be very wise just staying his cushy position and, uh, and not have to worry about that day to day pressure that comes with being on the in dugout staff, so to speak.
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And I thought it funny, then.
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Okay, the the picture went out.
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People figured out that Jerry Narron name was on there.
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I mean, okay, that could have been anything but all right.
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I found it funny that Brody took down the photo and replaced it with a new photo is if he was really protecting some sort of state secret with state of the bench coach, I mean, I mean oh, my God.
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Now, now everybody knows our secret.
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I thought that was the most hysterical thing aspect of all.
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The Mets do not have a very good history with Twitter.
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You can go back to the or even television.
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You know, the r a ****ey interview with someone in the background in the shower.
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Um, you know, ***, toys and people's lockers.
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You know, uh, J.
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Horowitz with the actual bank account on a check.
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It's like they really should stay away from social media.
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Well, that goes back.
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And I'll tell a quick story that goes back.
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Thio sit for an end as when we were when the whole bunch of us, when we were young, waiting for to get glimpses of the guys, they were leaving a game and we went around to the press gate and there was a big and it was a red Porsche there, and and we thought, Okay, well, who hasn't left yet? And we figured out it was that it had to be Sid Fernandez.
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So everybody's looking in the in the car.
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And not only was Sid Fernandez his mail with a dress clear to everybody, but he had thanked account information that was public, and people were writing that down on booze.
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So this is a new thing. Unbelievable.
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All right, quickly, before we let you go, New York Yankees.
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Obviously, uh, pitching will be the primary target during free agency.
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Who do you think the Yankees? I mean, they've been linked to Zack Wheeler Heavy.
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I don't see if Wheeler's going to go to New York.
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I think he's going to stay with the Mets, where he's already comfortable and knows everyone.
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I don't see him going there.
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Who do you think the primary target will be for the Yankees? As faras picture? I think they need a game changer, and it's, uh it sounds like the obvious answer, but I think they need to go after Garrett Cole.
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It really all depends on whether Cole is serious about wanting to go home to South, to some in California or not.
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UH, C.
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C. Sabathia family has been recruiting.
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Cole heavily is, and I think the Yankees will will be in play.
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And I think that's the guy they're going to target.
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And why not? I mean, everybody.
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You look at all the other options, and and there seems to be other options that a good for them also.
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Zack Wheeler and Madison.
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Bumgarner is good for the Braves.
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I think will.
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It would be a great ad for a team like the Minnesota Twins as well.
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I think if you're the Yankees, you've got the salary aim.
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Aim high, Awesome.
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All right.
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Thanks so much.
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D at police officers right to sue dot com or at 1 809 011 L A w that's police officers right to sue dot com for 1 809 011 L A w And welcome back to 5 40 AM Sports Talk NEW YORK Marc Grossman, Ryan, chairman with you this Sunday evening during us now is a man who was a 2009 college football American team selection as well of one of the best fullback prospects in the 2010 NFL draft.
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He was drafted in the fifth round in 2010 by the New York Jets.
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Is a pleasure to welcome one of the 54 men who played for both the Jets and Giants, the man known as a Terminator, John Connor to 5 40 Sports Talk New York.
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Hey, John, hey doing? I'm doing great doing good, especially if we're Jet fan giant fans.
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Not so much of, but we'll get to that a little further when we talk about your time with those two franchises.
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But let's talk about your your career very similar to our hockey gets.
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Two weeks ago, Dan Girardi, your star at Lakota West High School in West Chester, Ohio, where as a two year starter at running back US for 1100 yards and 14 touchdowns, averaging 6.
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3 yards from Carrie, is a senior.
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You're named first team all Greater Miami Conference on Roe.
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Mention all Southwest Ohio however you Went unrecognized is a college prospect by the two major recruiting service is rivals dot com and scout that come and you're not offered an athletic scholarship anywhere.
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Were you surprised by that? All right, that's pretty impressive.
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Um, yeah, I was I was initially, but I actually used that as motivation to get where I am or to get where I was.
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It was one of those type of things that I couldn't figure out What, what what the issue is.
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I feel like I have to get a good tape out there.
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Um, I have the the yardage and the firm, and I couldn't understand why I didn't have you know, you did receive some recruiting attention from Kentucky, Tennessee, West Virginia, in Illinois, among others.
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What went into your decision to be a walk on with the Kentucky Wildcats? Well, Kentucky was the school.
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They're talking a little bit there in a position where they could be offered me a scholarship at the time, but they were straight up with me.
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This had a chance of going internally, earn a scholarship in on a starting position.
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I know the situation where the Lexington is.
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I grew up in the Cincinnati area, Lexington with place.
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That's far enough to get away from home, but also, you know, close enough to get back and also have family in Lexington.
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And, uh, yeah, I just I feel like that was the best when you have to meet the coaches well, that choice obviously pays off by your junior year.
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You get 11 starts in the 13 games prior to your senior season, your name the best blocking back in the Southeastern Conference in the Birmingham News 2009 preseason edition, as well as earning All American honest by foot pro football weekly.
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How much confidence did those honors give you heading into the draft? It gave me confidence, but it was on the best terms. I'm walking along.
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I didn't want to tell my head of too much with the positive or the negative.
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I kind of wanted that in between that and just keep working hard and don't let that about my work at it.
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Keep going for more.
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So what's your biggest takeaway from the Kentucky experience and the most important things you learn from Coach Brooks, Joker Phillips and running back coach, Which is interesting.
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You know, you had a former NFL pro in Liar, Brinson as your runningback coach.
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What was your takeaway from those three coaches? I've learned a lot from each one of them.
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Some different from this.
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One of them are coach blows.
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We have very physical practices.
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We have very our practices.
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And then he kind of taught us about just being tough.
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Um, I learned a lot about offense.
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Theo Drucker, fearless and close, prestigious with experience in NFL, is really helped me out in my career.
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Confetti.
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You know this.
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This always fascinates me.
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You participated in the 2010 NFL combine, and I have to imagine that, you know, at a young age that's extremely stressful because you're out there and really it's a triumph for everyone, and you're trying to do your personal best.
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But it's not like game day.
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The stadium is not full.
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There's no crowd noise, so walk us through what goes through a college athletes mind during those combines and how you get your adrenaline level up when you're used to game day with all the hype and in a locker room and your team, How do you do that? Individually, I think the fact that you were so finding Carmen I think that's what made it so nerve racking.
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Just that you have a bunch of coaches in the stands is looking at you and, you know, evaluating your every move.
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Um, I mean, it's a test.
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Well, we had a wake up early.
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56 a. M.
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Having interviews, breakfast my way.
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Move our, uh, latest and cars.
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And, uh, yeah.
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Second, it's an early test just to get you ready for the last in the NFL.
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Hey, John, this is Ryan.
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Can you take us into some of the behind the scenes like what goes on in those interviews? We've heard stories of some pretty wacky questionings happen.
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Did you have any experiences like that? Oh, yes.
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They will ask you anything and everything.
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That that part got pretty interesting.
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What was the strangest question you were asked, uh, can you share that with time I probably sent here.
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But if I could take wonder that's radio from the ER.
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I think they they asked me how many days a week drink.
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Really? Wow, that's wild.
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Yes, right? Yeah.
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You're trying to break it down.
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The psychology, right? They think anyone honestly is gonna answer, uh, every day.
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Job interview, right? Really? Exactly.
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Darling, you can't live with you.
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Okay? All right.
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So let's go back to the weekend of April 22nd 2010 the NFL draft.
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What do you remember about the weekend and the moment you were selected by the New York Jets? Oh, man, it was just a great memory.
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I can remember all the little things just from turn off my phone vibrating on my leg.
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I had it all the time just watching the draft board and the watching guys get tasting, reaching their dreams.
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And I remember to this day, now the process And, uh, just so you know how restaurants work over the phone.
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And I can I can go back to that day and any time and remember everything.
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So you mentioned Rex.
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Rex is your coach.
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Brian Schottenheimer is your offensive coordinator.
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Tony win is a running backs coach.
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What was the major difference you saw in the college game in Kentucky and your first pro camp in New York? What was the thing that stood out to you like, Whoa, this is a whole different world, I think, just the business, the business aspect of everything.
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And Carlos, it's more of like a team.
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My commodity.
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It isn't enough there, but the same time.
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And then I felt your fine for your job.
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Every week, every day is the interview at practice, and you have guys that is there one day and gone the next day.
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And that's one thing I was like, Man, this is really bad for business.
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Uh, you have to do your best every day and just bring the best.
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We're speaking to former New York Jet New York giant John Connor, The Terminator.
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You become kind of a household name because of HBO's hard knocks, where week after week coach Rex Ryan would praise you on film.
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Ah, and that kind of took on a life of its own.
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What was that like for you all of a sudden? Not just in New York, but it is HBO.
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It's every single NFL city knows you already.
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Yeah, it was kind of crazy, crazy walk around a city and people would recognize you, especially being a fullback.
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I think I One guy on the team you can't remember who dress like you're probably the most famous for.
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Oh, but, uh, it was fun.
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It was It was a lot of fun. It was crazy.
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But in a day, you know, you live not your dream.
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And I I just enjoyed every second otherwise there, looking back at your career is a jet.
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What is your farm? Find this memory of being a jet.
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My fondest memory being a J Probably just going to the playoffs my rookie year.
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I just remember coming.
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That's a rookie.
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And just remember how long I want to see it was and talk about that rookie wall and like, hit that and you just got to get that second wind.
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But we're actually not going deep into the playoffs all the way to the East chamber again.
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We know lives with this bird, but, uh, just that whole playoff atmosphere crazy.
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You know, something different from a regular season game and in a playoff game.
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You mentioned that rookie wall, and you know there's really no way to prepare for it. It's different.
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The NFL is a different beast in the college game who are on the Jets.
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Kind of mentored you to let you know that.
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Okay, that this is normal.
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Everyone goes through it and and kind of got you through that.
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You know that, rookie Walt, You know, poor portion of the season.
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We had guys like the Rich got it kind of pushing every day in practice.
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But he was also a hold of veterans in rocket pick his brain.
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And he was kind of giving his experience with everything and also trying to save tradition and plan for 16 years.
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And then you have guys, like with any Thomas no Polish Famer and just got it.
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I looked up to growing up in.
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It was nice to have him there toe cancer.
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It taught me to.
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Everything is well, it was pretty too good. Guys.
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Toe toe, look up to for sure.
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Um, 2012.
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You struggled with the M.
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C L.
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Sprain and hamstring injury.
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You're released by the Jets October 17.
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You get to play two games for your hometown team, The Bangles.
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Did that mean something to you? As a lot of NFL players don't get the opportunity to play in their hometown? Yeah.
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I mean, the lie was because my parents family, if they could come out and watch me and just tell him I grew up watching growing up, and I'm just gonna have to be Berry.
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And I think these are guys, like a lot of my trained with an off, because I was come back home to my Cincinnati home and it was just Crew.
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But I would be 10 minutes with these guys.
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I pray for your own sound, tame.
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You got to know the kids to grow up with their there, ever watching more now because they're being with fans and that whole thing was pretty cool.
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So 2013 After working out with the other New York team, the Buffalo Bills, you end up signing a two year contract with the New York Giants under coach Tom Coughlin.
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We'll both New York teams, you know, there's a perception that the Giants just do things differently than the Jets.
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What did you find as the most notable difference between the two franchises.
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When you played with the Giants and the Jets, well, you're right about that.
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Time cost a very respectable coach.
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Two Super Bowls.
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But you go there.
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It's a different type atmosphere.
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You got like restaurant was more of a players coach.
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You goto Tom Coughlin, who know there's nothing.
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Where are all the processors said back in the facility.
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10 minutes.
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So if you had a meeting at seven o'clock P.
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M.
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That means that a meeting at six so you couldn't have your cell phone down is very military, like, uh, environment.
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But obviously it worked with him in the past.
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So you know, you got to respect that.
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I wonder if Gino Smith would still be late.
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So you also got to be part of a Jets Giants regular season game.
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You know, as fans, you know, it's different for us.
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It means something when we're playing the other team in the city as a player.
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Did that game have any added significance to you, or was just another regular NFL regular season game for you? Well, I think it's a necessary rivalry, you know.
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You see these guys out in the city a lot, and you're friends with him out there.
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But today we know where rivals come on that football field with our friends and more.
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I think that kind of hiding the the mood a little bit.
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Uh, but you know, our first way when that game And when I'm the one who bought that year.
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But it was, uh I think the whole robbery, just being in the same city, made it made it better.
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It's hard to believe that the quarterback on that giant team is a guy that you played with six years ago as he was in his 10th season that year.
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Ah, still on the team today? What was it like to play with you lying Manning? You know, I was a great guy.
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He's very down to earth.
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Uh, pretty funny.
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People don't People don't think that, but he's actually pretty funny guy.
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It was.
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It was honored to play with him, and, uh, just knowing that, you know, he won the Super Bowls and the justice history in his honor.
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It's also interesting you take a look at your role in the role of the full back in the NFL, and it's kind of disappeared.
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Why do you think that is? You know what? I couldn't tell you that.
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I I just think I kind of came in right at the end of the right area If I was drafted in the nineties and you probably will see me out there, but, um, I just I don't know.
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You know, a lot of teams are going to the spread offense.
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They want to throw the ball going on.
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I think pretty soon the running backs into coming down a brief because all the things in the past, the ball now and they're getting more fancy with their offense.
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I'm more of that.
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So bad, Traditional, full back in a lot of teams, you know, they used that h back tight bill and hide and put in hiding back there is enough a little bit.
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It's interesting because I kind of think hopefully these things are somewhat sick.
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Look over you go back and you look back in the day.
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Guys like Norm Bollocks.
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And you know, Zanca, the fullback was such an integral part of wearing defense is down now.
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I guess it's a speed game and you're right.
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It's Ah you know everyone has to catch the ball.
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I miss the ground and pound part of the game, but it's interesting you mention that.
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Yeah, it's interesting to you mentioned cyclical, and I'm wondering if it's something that's gonna come back because, as the league, like you mentioned, wants to use more halfbacks, even putting tight ends back there.
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There's also a trend across the league's that the halfback can't block the same way that these fullbacks were capable of so blitz pickups away.
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Different.
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Do you think that that's something that teams out of necessity we're gonna go back to, Or they just gonna try toe, find better blocking schemes? Uh, you know what I sense? And I mean, that's one thing I pride myself on.
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I wanted to be able to do what I want.
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A better run, catch and block.
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I think that was on a separate running back now, coming into the league is they can do all of those things and not just carry the ball for 1000 cars, but they can also pick up a blitz and save a place.
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So hopefully they get back to that.
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I not think a few painters still using the four back.
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But like you said, it's a dying breed and, uh, not think it's just a different air in there.
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Hopefully, we can, Ah, a lot of times things reversed back, But that would be awesome to do it when you watch the game compare and it seems almost ridiculous to save its its not that long ago that you were in the game, but what did you notice? The difference between when you played in the game? Today I feel like there's a lot more, Ah, referee involvement.
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I think the rules have changed a little bit.
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You can't just not somebody out like maybe I'll take you through a few years ago, even before me.
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I think the world of changes, I think, uh, just take on change a person.
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I was saying, It's a few things have changed.
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No.
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Do you think if you were coming out of college now what do you what position do you think you would be in today's NFL? That's a really good question.
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That's one thing that I thought about.
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Wow, you know, I was blessed to come out and then I'll be able to be used, but I'm like, man, I think about like, if I would have come out now, Like, how would the NFL use me? Um, and I would hope that I could still, you know, maybe do a search for yards back or four for back into your yard and get that first down stated or shoulder forcing short.
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Um, but yeah, you know, I don't know this question.
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Do you think that the team's getting away from using specialized, you know, packages of having someone that'll ram the ball right up the middle? Those kind of like the Giants have the three headed monster a few years ago during the Super Bowl run of having those specialized things.
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And now teams are using three down backs like that's the new trend and everything.
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You know, everyone wants to copy each other.
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So do you think that doing that is actually leading to more injuries and maybe less effectiveness? I mean, I'm biased.
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I get I would like to say yes, I'm still a big fan of the big back in just grew ah, north and South kind of guy.
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I think there's a place for, you know, the scat backs and another the quick guys, but I don't think you're less trenches.
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I think you need a girl running back.
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You don't have to be the biggest guy.
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This guy, this I'm going on a little shoulder in the path for extra credit.
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So you played for both New York franchises.
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Which do you identify with Mme.
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Or the Jets Or the Giants? A man? That's a tough question.
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Uh, they're they're monster.
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Very similar.
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Different environment.
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But I think both teams on the ground and pound the ball when I was with the judge.
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Are you had a Shawn Green with any Tom? Assemble our power, Justin, I'm a few.
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And doing, you know, with the Giants were branded drinkers, uh, eight.
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Uh uh.
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Good.
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Uh, Wilson.
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David Wilson.
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They work? Yeah.
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Yeah, I think the emphasis was ground in town type of type offense.
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So one of the one of the themes today in today's game is both offensive lines were really struggling due to the injuries.
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So what I want to ask you is more specifically in a game when that happens, how much of a difference is it? Toe Have that backup coming? And is it really that much of a confidence, you know, shock to everyone around saying what? We just lost our guy on the left tackle of replacing lineman in the middle of a game.
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Aki Kiki, ask me that again.
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I'm so one of the one of the things that happen in today's Giants game is that the line was was bereft by injuries and they're replacing guys in the middle of the game.
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What happens on an NFL sideline when an offensive lineman goes down and you're not replacing him with a guy who might not be, you know, has acquitted with the scheme? Yeah, I think, uh, you know, when you first got me a game, you got a guy going in there really cold, and I think it takes a while to get adjusted to the game.
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You can't just go in there in.
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You got to use the defensive ends and taxes.
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They're they're running like 4544 now, and they're big and they're you know, they're physical.
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They're coming off that ball fast.
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I think it's kind of hard.
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I have asked, You gotta go in there.
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It should be right away.
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I mean, they're guys that can do it.
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Don't get me wrong, but I think that that's a that's a tough job to take over.
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So you played for both the Jets when they were competitive and the Giants, when they were competitive.
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Right now, you take a look at these two teams and they're in disarray.
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Um, I don't know if you got to see the game today and how much you get to see of these two franchises.
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Ah, the little that you have seen of them.
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What do you think that their issues are? What do you think needs to be corrected in order them to get back to being competitive? Football teams? I think it's a situation where you just gotta look at Look at your look atyou.
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That started the Marquis What What guys is going on here watching form and just trying to make the best corrections possible? Obviously, these guys you know they're there for a reason.
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I think I think our team's been turning around.
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They just sit there, are worth it.
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But the root of everything isn't I mean, I would even look your wretched during practice.
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How you guys preparing for the game, how you guys watching? Um uh, you know what? You know what, guys stepping up their leaders, leading by example of vocally, I think I think you gotta looking finally and look at yourself, having played here, um, you know, it's different.
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Att.
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Least know we, as the media think it's different.
00:32:49
But both of these team have very young quarterbacks.
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What does that add to the mix when you have two very young quarterbacks trying to establish them in the league when they're playing under the microscope in New York? Our Telesis know you come in New York, that is the fan bases.
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It can be very intimidating.
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The times I recommend God, stay off Twitter staff, Most media.
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My incident and all that stuff is my people can be very harsh.
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I think it's one of those things where you just have to know, remember what got you there and learn on the veteran defender and leadership.
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I think that's what I used to essentially come through, You know, after your young quarterback and I just feel at home, make him feel comfortable.
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I think I think confidence is key when I wanna guys.
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I'm confident there's no way you know I can't help but think as I hear you speak you.
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You sound like someone that should be a coach in the league and maybe not so much for position, but just, you know, there's so much that comes with being an NFL pro that so many guys, you know, blow it just by not being attuned to what it takes to be a pro.
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Is that something that you'd like to get into in your career now? Oh, it is nothing something.
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Look at keeping around the game.
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I do a performance training now, trying a lot of athletes that was already, you know, the place.
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I think coaching it could be something.
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What are some of the things that you have to work on with these guys, that performance wise now especially, like you said, these guys are bigger, faster, stronger, which is almost amazing to say, because it's not that long ago that you were playing.
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But they are bigger and faster.
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What are some of the things that you have to train these guys to be able to do now? That may not have been part of the game when you were with the Jets of the giants.
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Uh, the majority and strength training.
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I mean, that's my saying.
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I think you got it Just emphasized the power in the explosion that that you're gonna need a place to the next level are the god**** speed is even up a knife.
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By using a guy like myself, I played in the SUV scene, which is competitive conference, but that's probably built it in a pair of the game.
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Steve was even up the nuts, just playing with my drills.
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Like I make sure they're going under 100%.
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They'll get a full recovery boat, make sure they're going 100 girls.
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So that way they can get usedto parents asking Karen rebels through John, thanks so much for your time tonight.
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Where is the best way for people to catch up with you via social media and check out everything you're up to these days? Okay, so my twitter and my instagram kind of Jake on a J. Connor 38.
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Uh, so that's that's a definite happily my training facilities, unbreakable lifestyle.
00:35:47
Very cool, you know.
00:35:48
And what's also cool about your nickname is that that franchise keeps on pumping out movies and it's back again.
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You know it's his back, so the nickname will never go away.
00:35:59
The Terminator Thanks so much, John.
00:36:01
We really appreciate it.
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Thanks for having a problem.
00:36:04
You got determinate of John Connor.
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You know what? You know the guy could flat out, basically block, also beside from from running, you know, like when he laid a hit on somebody, they felt it.
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Yeah.
00:36:16
Those hard knot clips were special teams of here just coming full speed down the field, blowing people up.
00:36:21
In fact, in Cincinnati, when he got cut right, the only reason why they cut him is because the other guy was younger and they showed the guy saying, Listen, he's actually better than you and showed him the clips of what he did on special teams.
00:36:34
But they kept the younger guy because they felt that there was more of a future and the injuries, there was a lot of injuries.
00:36:39
Yeah, yeah, And again, that was towards the tail end of the full back in the NFL, which is it's is so strange the way the game has just changed so quickly and positions change, and just the way the game is played changing.
00:36:54
The philosophy has changed, though, to like in today's game, not having you know, extra tight ends on the end to help out either of the lines.
00:37:02
Both lines were in trouble, right where they were had injuries.
00:37:05
And you have a young quarterback to bear on the coach.
00:37:08
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying is the coaching philosophies of trying to get the best out of your guys by helping them putting them in the best position.
00:37:15
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Just phenomenal.
00:39:55
12 3 and one plus 14 differential.
00:39:59
8 to 11 at home, four and one on the road.
00:40:02
Just been phenomenal.
00:40:04
We know you can't really say enough about trots and the system instils in his team.
00:40:11
You know, you take a look at their roster.
00:40:13
Are they as talented as the Capitals in St Louis? Problem or the Bruins? Probably not even close, but they're right there.
00:40:20
So So what is it about his system that allows them to compete, game in and game out.
00:40:26
They just they all buy in.
00:40:28
They stand you up to the blue line.
00:40:30
They make every play hard.
00:40:32
They're on you every second.
00:40:34
They're just looking for mistakes to get offensive chances, and this does work in the regular season.
00:40:40
It didn't work throughout the playoffs last year, got him to the second round.
00:40:43
Right then they got swept.
00:40:45
I don't know if we get him any further this year, but it is amazing.
00:40:49
Although I'm gonna tell you I have a little truck criticism because they sent down our walls from and, you know, trots is like a He's got great skill in everything else.
00:40:57
Now we have to learn everything else about the game, and it's like, Well, Barry like, why won't you teach him? You know, But that's the problem with some of these coaches.
00:41:07
Now they you know, they get so stuck on themselves and their systems and liking veterans that they wanted to give a kid like that a chance.
00:41:16
So will that come back and bite him? Maybe because he doesn't need some offense, but he doesn't see it right now because we're on a huge winning streak.
00:41:22
We'll take a look at the guys that the younger guy here's the interesting thing.
00:41:26
So you know when you're bad for that long, Um, things happen, you get draft picks.
00:41:32
And we said this about Ed Minton.
00:41:34
You know why being bad so long? Haven't they've turned around now Ed Minton has.
00:41:40
And you take a look, Edmund, tonight, at least they're young guys.
00:41:43
They start cycling them in.
00:41:44
You take a look.
00:41:45
It took a long time for Michael Dell Cole to get here.
00:41:48
All right, Josh hosts, um you know, I don't know what's going on with hosting and that Wall Street.
00:41:52
So what about these young guys that the islanders don't really truly embrace, you know, giving them the time to develop up here and maybe accelerating them, you know, to the point where they can get to that next level.
00:42:07
Well, I mean, to get ah, young guy to fully commit to a 200 for game and play that rock solid defense first. It's hard.
00:42:17
It's not something that they do learn along the way.
00:42:21
There's very few players that loan that at an early age So now, Trot, sort of Put that on the, uh, Bridgeport coach to teach that to the players because you don't have time for that.
00:42:33
And that's great while things are going great.
00:42:36
But when they're not, you know, then he might change his tune on that and host saying I'm not even sure he reported that he ever I don't think so.
00:42:45
I don't think so either.
00:42:46
So he he might be in, like, the in the ether right now, which is a terrible place for that kid today.
00:42:51
I mean, I just you know, he brought some of this on himself, but he didn't bring all this.
00:42:56
They're not treating them right, Understood.
00:42:58
And you know what, then trade him.
00:42:59
You know, you're he's obviously never going to get here because this this never ends.
00:43:05
Well, when a player refuses to report, the team refuses to play him.
00:43:09
So trade him, just gets a massive form and be done because this is not good for any of them.
00:43:15
Now you know the Rangers, with their rebuild, you take a look and basically playing all the young players.
00:43:21
But they also have a lot of young players that in Hartford and their six of you know that they're in first place.
00:43:26
And the goaltender, you know, that we always said, is the heir apparent to Henrik is six and one, and he's just been unworldly there, too.
00:43:34
So how long can you keep your starting down at Hartford and are the the Rangers doing what Gordon want to do in that setting the foundation in Hartford for years to come? And this is the way the organization, that's what J.
00:43:49
D.
00:43:50
Did the other two places in Columbus in St Louis is setting the foundation first in the minors and carrying it through? How much is that going on in Harford? Right now, it's going on a lot.
00:44:00
I'm gonna give Chris Terreri a lot of credit for that.
00:44:02
He's been spearheading that for a few years now.
00:44:05
David Quinn's also another one of these coaches now that the Rebels over isn't teaching as much either.
00:44:10
But they are still teaching in Hartford and chest again.
00:44:14
It's interesting because he we all know you can do it, but you have to come over North American prove it in last year, really same.
00:44:21
So enough had trouble for half a season, but he also wasn't 23.
00:44:24
The fact that you know Chesterton is 23 really helps.
00:44:28
The 9 35 is just great.
00:44:30
Uh, if the Rangers somehow fall out of it, could they trade? You'll give up the, uh, the deadline and then bring him up.
00:44:37
Yeah, I think that could happen.
00:44:39
If they stay competitive, then he might have to wait till next year, but by next year he'll be the Rangers back up and your gavel got traded that I would almost guarantee that it's been interesting in the rebuilder.
00:44:48
Was this this moment this past week where the Rangers started your G of two games in a row in a kind of fit them three games in a row? Nicole put them in the butt.
00:44:55
They put a Henrik Lundquist and he plays out of his mind.
00:44:58
Coach Quintin mentioned his load management, which I definitely agree with, where are 37 year old goalie? But where's the balance there and then, like you said, there's 1/3 goalie in the wings.
00:45:08
How are they gonna kind of figure this out? Well, that's that's the thing.
00:45:11
You never hold on to that third guy for too long.
00:45:15
The interesting thing was with your you have waas.
00:45:18
That was sort of like his opportunity to maybe swipe 10 games away from Henrik this year, and and he failed at it because he's not used to do any of it harder than it looks.
00:45:28
And so that's something where it shows the world of Lundquist.
00:45:32
Even so long, quick hater.
00:45:33
So right now it's status quo.
00:45:35
Hendrick will still get the lion's share, but less than he normally would get, in case they do make it in the playoffs.
00:45:41
And like I said, I think Chester Game could be up there by the, uh, by the trading deadline.
00:45:47
I think your gift could get a nice price at the deadline.
00:45:50
Will be teams looking for goalies.
00:45:51
There would be no reason to go into next year or three goals you wouldn't have.
00:45:55
You wouldn't do it, and I wouldn't do it interesting.
00:45:58
You know, I think Quinn, in some respects, is dodging a little bored here.
00:46:02
Beings of mark stalls injury.
00:46:04
Yeah, I don't know how he's gonna juggle that.
00:46:06
It make everyone happy.
00:46:08
It looked like Brady shaped marks calls.
00:46:10
Injury was awfully convenient.
00:46:11
I do want to point that out.
00:46:12
And I do want to point out that carpet stores Adam Husky, too.
00:46:15
So they technically have 1/4.
00:46:17
But he hasn't got a lot of press, right, that's true.
00:46:19
But the issue for me is you know that I think having that guy and being able to, you know, have someone pushing you.
00:46:28
And if you have a bad game like Brady, she had a couple.
00:46:31
You know, being able to scratch a guy is not the worst thing.
00:46:34
But when it is your veteran, it kind of in some respects is like, you know, send shockwaves in the Twitter world.
00:46:42
So I think in some respects, you know, maybe Stall gets a little too weak blow here, takes care of his infection in his ankle and then comes back and they continue that rotation.
00:46:52
But I'll tell you, I like what I've seen of linguine.
00:46:55
Uh, tell me the Angelo is a next level and the guy you love game in and game out.
00:47:01
You can just see the confidence growing in Adam Fox and the pass is he's making and the things he's doing.
00:47:06
But the guy really has and this is a guy that I loved, and I said, You know, when we talked about guys coming back, it was Ryan Strome.
00:47:13
It was one of the guys.
00:47:14
I didn't want them to trade.
00:47:15
The guy has definitely elevated his game this year, you know, playing better players.
00:47:20
So what do you make A fox, linguine and Strom thus far? Well, yeah, Foxes is steady as she goes, linger and does add that physical element and the you'll stick up for his teammates.
00:47:32
That's That's a great thing.
00:47:34
D'Angelo has really added a physical element to his game as well.
00:47:37
But the even strength points are crazy for a goal for a defenseman, just crazy.
00:47:42
Good.
00:47:43
And now we're starting to get more power play time.
00:47:44
So they they literally stole him.
00:47:47
And right now, you know, I even get funded.
00:47:49
Smith credit, like he's actually added something.
00:47:52
I don't know if he's just taking time away from a youngster, though, and so maybe they'll trade him, but at least sort of like a defensive forward. He's added something.
00:48:01
So all these things seem to be working for the Rangers, and right now it's hard to argue that they're not better without Mark stole.
00:48:09
I know that sounds bad, but it seems that way.
00:48:12
I kind of agree.
00:48:13
But he is a steady, steadying influence on those young defenseman.
00:48:17
And I think a lot can be learned from him with him around in the locker room and on the ice, especially as a defensive defenseman with all these offensive defenseman up.
00:48:25
We need some defense.
00:48:26
Absolutely. Yeah.
00:48:27
All right, Russ, we appreciate Russ Cohen here.
00:48:30
All right, You know what? We didn't get to the Devils, which I think we need to You take a look.
00:48:35
Number one draft pick. Overall.
00:48:37
The ad Piquet. Superman.
00:48:38
We talked about this last week.
00:48:39
You know, two coaches I think are now on the hot seat.
00:48:42
I think Hines and maybe John Tortorella might be starting to feel the heat a little bit.
00:48:47
What do you make of the devil's thus far.
00:48:48
And you think John Tortorella is is on the hot seat at this point torch.
00:48:53
I don't think it is on the hot seat.
00:48:55
And John Heinz now he still could be.
00:48:59
Although he did have a good game today.
00:49:03
They beat the Canucks to one in the battle of the Hughes brothers.
00:49:06
I like the fact that the younger brother's team one because I'm a younger brother and I always root for the younger brother over the older brother.
00:49:13
Screw them.
00:49:14
And but this is This is a nice way to one shows that maybe things were starting to come around a little defensively for them.
00:49:23
They've got to start, you know, proven it because somehow they got to try and keep Taylor Hall there and pay him a boatload of money or get a lot for him in the trade.
00:49:31
But things do seem to be leveling out enough to keep finding jobs safer.
00:49:35
At least you know, through American Thanksgiving.
00:49:38
All right, we appreciate it.
00:49:40
Russ Cohen, her each and every week on 5 40 in Sports talk New York, we turn from the ice, we go to the hardwood and, you know, we bring in time topic.
00:49:49
I am.
00:49:50
Before I let Ryan take over the basketball segment, I just got to say this, You know, as much as you know, Nick fans wanted Kyrie, Irving and everything.
00:49:59
You take a look at what the Celtics are doing without Kyrie and you take a look at what the Nets are doing with Kyrie.
00:50:06
Did we over inflate what this guy means to a team? I mean, we heard reports that he wasn't the best of teammates.
00:50:13
Looks like the Celtics are better without him.
00:50:16
And how much better on the Nets with him? Well, that's an interesting question.
00:50:20
Well, then, that's really improved with Carrie, every morsel, anything else? Is that there a box office draw? Um, when we were discussing the possibility of Kyrie Irving coming to the next, I wasn't high on Carrier.
00:50:33
Honestly, I don't want every every game I never did for me.
00:50:36
A point guard, that ball dominant.
00:50:38
That's a nice, slow player that look to dribble out the clock.
00:50:40
I saw that.
00:50:41
I saw that Stefan Marbury.
00:50:42
I mean, I've seen that unless you're Steph Curry, a really good facilitator as well.
00:50:47
That game doesn't really mesh to me from the point guard position, but the real draw Kyrie Irving was that he came with Kevin Durant, that it was a package deal.
00:50:56
Um, we've seen the Celtics improved with Kyrie Irving out there in the first place.
00:51:00
Why they let him go.
00:51:02
It's important to note that the Celtics didn't just lose Kyrie Irving.
00:51:05
Though it wasn't addition by subtraction, General Walker's a pretty **** good point card in his own right, and they're a team that are, I guess, um, the summer's better than the parts Jason Tatum.
00:51:16
Give him room to play, get Let me get out of the way and he doesn't really nice job.
00:51:20
Um, there a movement team, they're a pick and roll team.
00:51:23
They're not a stop in wash team, and that was never bread, even waste.
00:51:26
I think they are better.
00:51:27
That carrier every but also with Kemba Walker.
00:51:30
The next they got Kevin Durant and with it came carry over, and I think that's kind of the way they looked at it to a large degree and not down.
00:51:39
Sorry, not to break it down too much with the numbers, but they have almost four players averaging 20 points a game, So they're really sharing the ball and Kimball walking Kember.
00:51:48
Walker was a guy that you wanted the Knicks to go after.
00:51:51
You know how much different with the Knicks look with Kemba Walker? Well, I mean the biggest issue for the Knicks right now, and that's obviously justice say, because once they get Kimble Walker, who knows where the next dominoes earn free agency they have.
00:52:04
Their entire roster is comprised of planned, the free agent signing.
00:52:08
But, um, Kevin Walker gives them instant credibility at the point.
00:52:11
Garbage is what they're missing.
00:52:13
You have a young center in Mitchell, Rob it and thats you know that all the envy exactly talking about is an up and coming star.
00:52:20
You have R.
00:52:22
J.
00:52:23
Barrett, who has looked very much the real deal.
00:52:24
In short, in short, for Enemy in the n B.
00:52:27
A self are Kevin Knox looks maybe not what he was projected as last year, but like a very good three indeed. Prospect.
00:52:34
Very least, frankly, Latina showing signs of life.
00:52:37
I had a great summer with friends, um, looking more compan on the offense.
00:52:41
Still the defensive stalwart that he's been.
00:52:43
There are some pieces.
00:52:44
They're they're missing a point sort, and Kevin Walker would have gone a long way insulting that, at least in helping that, um, Boston, in terms of the, um, several 55 scores, 5 20 point scores, I think you mentioned um, yeah, that's Brad Stevens.
00:53:02
Rascal.
00:53:03
That's what they were before when it was Terry Rose.
00:53:04
You're running the point.
00:53:05
They were that exactly.
00:53:06
Gordon Hayward was a very valuable piece.
00:53:09
Um, when Carrie every dribbling.
00:53:12
Um, we're not in the corner.
00:53:14
Yeah, exactly.
00:53:15
So the story of the week definitely is Kawai, the Clippers and load management.
00:53:20
So can you bring us through? This were DZ case of events the other day where the MBA approved of the way that they had handled the injury and we're gonna have him take the game off to switching and then finding the team 50 grand.
00:53:33
I say it's the ****edest thing, the league trying to save face.
00:53:36
And honestly, it's a losing battle load Management has 1/10 of the sports vernacular.
00:53:42
At the very least, the n v a vernacular, um, you know, old school or brother, be Charles Barkley.
00:53:48
Anybody who's played in any generation fire to this kind of laughs and Scott's with the idea, but that that's what the NBA's gonna maintain its schedule this long with playoffs that go this deep.
00:54:00
It's an inevitability you're seeing in a baseball, too.
00:54:02
Um, you're seeing guys, you know, pull the old guys.
00:54:05
Talk about how pictures aren't going.
00:54:07
Not eating anymore.
00:54:08
That's not the game.
00:54:09
They're saving them for the postseason.
00:54:11
Um, the n b a initially when he has Sure, Go ahead.
00:54:14
And then I was I mean, if you're gonna come down on people for load management, then they asked you in to save face and went ahead and did So um, honestly, I think it's a losing battle, and I think shooter later, the NBA's gonna have to realize that, especially because it worked, right? So the reason that Kuai Leonard wanted out of San Antonio so much is because he didn't like the way that they were handling him.
00:54:36
He goes to Toronto, He played about 60 games and he was unbelievable in the playoffs.
00:54:42
And so it worked in the summer.
00:54:44
He's being courted by all these teams, and the Clippers came to him and said, We will do this with you.
00:54:48
We were with you on this plan.
00:54:50
So how is it that an MBA franchise can be on board? But the MBA is a whole isn't well, because the n v.
00:54:57
A has to deal with fan outrage.
00:54:59
Um, listen, if you buy season tickets to see the L. A. Clippers, this season.
00:55:03
You've paid your tickets in terms of the outcry of you already paid for them and the star players not playing that something at the end.
00:55:10
A officers have to deal with.
00:55:11
Look, I would love.
00:55:12
I cannot wait president to go after the Lakers.
00:55:15
LeBron is not playing on every game, not even close.
00:55:19
Second night of Active Max.
00:55:20
As good as he's been, he is very, very careful to preserve himself for the playoffs, especially as he gets older and he has to carry more than share the load in L.
00:55:29
A.
00:55:30
Again, there's no way he's playing every game, and I can't imagine an MBA where Adam Silver goes after LeBron James resting up after injury plagued season at the age of 34 35.
00:55:39
Um, yeah, it works, and it's an inevitability.
00:55:43
And again, um, as mentioned prior, that this is a losing battle of the NBA's gonna just have to take the l on and just cash out.
00:55:51
I agree.
00:55:52
You take a look at the old school NHL on the goalie's used to play, you know, 75 they're the wrong goalie.
00:55:58
You know, if you were coming to see Henrik Lundquist and you've got the backup.
00:56:01
You're like, Oh, you know what? That is A loss today? Yeah, that's that's the nature of the game.
00:56:05
You want your guys playing in June in the playoffs? April matter. Alright. Time.
00:56:09
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She's best known for her historic journey to sing the National Star Spangled Banner in all 50 states, a mission she embarked on to honor Our Brave.
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It is a pleasure to welcome Long Island's own Janine stank to 5 40 AM Sports Talk New York Welcome, Janine.
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Hey, nice to be here.
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Thanks for having me.
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It's absolutely pleasure, especially with Veterans Day Tomorrow.
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It's a perfect time for this spot.
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August 28th 2014 the year which Francis Scott Key's song turned 200.
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You completed a two year journey and became the first person to from the national anthem in all 50 states.
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So how do you wake up one morning and say, I want to perform The Star Spangled Banner in all 50 states? What was the inspiration behind? Oh, it wasn't just waking up one morning.
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Um, it was definitely, uh just go off wanting to do something to make a difference, using the fact that I love to sing the national anthem, and it kind of just evolved.
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You know, it was just something where one day I did realize that I sang it in a few states, and then I looked it up to see if there's anybody ever did it on all 50.
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So that's kind of how it sort of just came about, but very, very interesting, Um, way that, you know, you start to think, Well, there's something that no one else has done.
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So this will be really cool, but you don't realize all the other things that are gonna happen as a result, which is all captured in the movie, so I don't have toe go into too much detail.
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I don't want to give away the.
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It's interesting to think that no one's ever done that, and that kind of shocked me as well.
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You performed the national anthem in high profile boxing rings.
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Major League baseball stadiums occuring NASCAR NFL events in some less high profile events is donkey basketball tournaments, car show tens and even at the center of the universe in an Idaho mining town.
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How did you go about mapping out the journey in which venue of all the places you've played meant the most to you.
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Well, I meant it out.
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Kind of by saying, if if I get to one spot, where could I drive? You know, So you live in one location, and then that kind of came about just trial.
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And I'm realizing, like, Okay, it's gonna be really expensive.
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If I fly all these places, how could I kind of like having an anchor city? Um, and I was just a lot of phone calls.
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It was a lot of me e mailing or having a conversation with the, uh, athletic, you know, athletic directors of colleges.
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Or it was, you know, the field director entertainment director from some major league sports team and just telling them what I was trying to do.
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Um, after I was on national news, it was a lot easier.
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But in the beginning, people really didn't know what to think.
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E o.
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You're not getting paid to sing the national anthem.
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They're not paying you to do this.
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Like you're telling me you want to fly out to this city.
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Um, okay.
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You know what? A jury You could something you know, It's also interesting.
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All the places I just mentioned it.
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It's a very diverse list and a very different fan base for each one of those.
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Did you find as a performer that any particular fan base was more into the song than others? That's a good question.
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Um, you know, I think that baseball kind of like it's a summer game.
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Everybody's outside.
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Uh, that seems to have a pretty good audience, but really, there was nothing that struck me as Oh geez, this is not, you know, PVR.
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I sang at a lot of a Pro Bowl aerators event.
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Those were very patriotic.
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Um, just think a lot of times you just the energy you put out the crowd feels it, and then it kind of goes back and forth.
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I always say, Look for veterans that are standing in the crowd.
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You could always tell that you're a rendering a salute.
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It's just a certain, um, look, they have that I always kind of focused on them, so I'm not really kind of like scanning too much when I'm singing that song.
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But it's really interesting because the roots as to why we sing the national anthem before a sporting event can be traced back to the seventh inning stretch of Game one of the 1918 world Siris in Comiskey Park.
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The van erupted into the Star Spangled Banner.
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The Cubs and the Red Sox players, all of a sudden, turned and faced the center fields flagpole sitta attention.
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The crowd it was already on their feet began to sing along and applauded at the end of the song.
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So, given that positive reaction, the band played This are in the next two games, and when the series moved to Boston, the Red Sox owner brought the band in, had them play it again.
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And it's remained a constant, given that even though you've completed the 50 States Quest, would you want to sing it Comiskey or World Siris Game? Given its connection to the anthem, of course, yes, I mean, any time I get to name it after having done it in all 50 states, there's just I feel like I can pull from all the different experiences I had.
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No, I said a bunch of times.
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I'll say it all the time.
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It's for me.
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It's not just, uh oh, here we go again.
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Got a sing the song, you know, and knowing there's nostalgia around something like that, I would love to. Yeah, absolutely.
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You know, the song requires a vocal range that sightly slightly exceeds an octave and 1/2.
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It's not an easy song to sing by any means.
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As a beat reporter being at rinks and baseball fields early, I've seen numerous anthem singers rehearsing in an empty stadium.
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What are the adjustments you have to make when you sing early it before pregame rehearsing, And then when the stadium fills up, it does absorb a little bit of a sound.
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Um, you know, but sometimes really hard.
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And some of the stadium's kind of joked and said they kind of heard my first note when I was in my car driving home because it was a delay.
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It's so it, depending on where they placed you in the stadium, if they give you in your monitors, that could be helpful from Pump is not as hopeful, but I think the people ever asked me for advice.
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When you're in a situation like that, you really have to train yourself.
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Just basically listen to what is inside of your head and not trying to hear what you sound like.
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That is when people I can't screw up it's interesting.
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The lyrics come from the defense of Fort McHenry, a poem written on September 14th 18 14 by then 35 year old lawyer and amateur poet Francis Scott Key, after witnessing them a barman of Fort McHenry by British ships of the Royal Navy in Baltimore Harbor during the vow of Baltimore.
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Ah, he was inspired by the large U.
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S.
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Flag with 15 stars and stripes known as the Star Spangled Banner flying triumphantly above the fourth during the U. S. Victory.
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How much of the history of the anthem and Francis Scott Key did you know, prior to embarking? And as you were going on this journey, did you find out interesting facts about it that you had not known? Uh, well, I didn't know when I was just had said, Oh, I'm gonna sing in all 50 states in the beginning.
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If you watched the movie, you'll see.
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I was sort of not at that point where I was in.
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The pressure cooker of the national anthem is turning 200.
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I didn't even know how old the song was when I initially did it, You know, for me, it was aware.
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Could use what I felt was my talent to use my voice are our grace.
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And as I was, I was in Baltimore when I realized the national anthem was going to turn 200 just nine months.
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So it was early, 2014 and then I started to learn about it.
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What was really, really amazing.
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Woz, uh, after I finished all 50 states I was singing.
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So I finished on August 28 2014.
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But then September 14th Fort McHenry had asked me to sing because they were doing this huge celebration of over 100,000 people, both more.
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And I was on the train from New York, headed to Baltimore, and I got a call from the Coast Guard and they said, Would you like to, um, thing? Actually, no.
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It was just Would you like to come aboard? Cut a riotous during the 2/100 anniversary after you finish it for Henry could watch the Marine jokes fly.
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And absolutely So what ended up happening, though, is after I sang at Fort McHenry, I was taken aboard, Cut arriving by the coast guard, and they took me to a star spangled buoy.
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There's an actual booty that gets dropped in the beginning of the season, where it marks the approximate location.
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Francis Scott Key was loaded when he saw that our flag was still there.
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You've got really good eyesight because it's not very.
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It's pretty far away.
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So I ended up getting to sing in his line of flight 200 years to the day, which was, uh, excuse me chills to think about it even now because it could have never been orchestrated.
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Can have, like, five public is working on something like that.
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It just happened to be, and I I kind of say it.
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That's what happens when you take chances when you believe in something that's bigger than yourself and start moving, putting one foot in front of the other.
01:12:16
It seems like all these things start to happen.
01:12:18
So, yeah, there was a lot, but I think I actually met some of his relatives when I would go with speaking at places people be like, Hey, I'm a distant relative of him, um, things like that.
01:12:29
But it's just amazing to me thio to know that that song when people stand and sing that song you.
01:12:40
The hope is that everyone, even the world, divided in many other ways that we are united to say We're honoring our veterans The humans that have written a blank check saying they give up to and including their lives for our country, Absolutely.
01:12:57
Is there a moment when you're singing it? Is there Ah, particular line in the song that's your favorite or a particular part of the song because of the way it's sung? That is your your moment in the song.
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What's funny is people have noticed this, and I didn't realize it until people pointed it out that I actually point.
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And when I think that our flag was still there, I put my hand up when I kind of point and I I'm Italian, tell you from Long Island were expressive, and I think for me to me, knowing what that all means, you know you're defending a fort, which means that there's a different plan that starts flying boom.
01:13:38
You know it's over game over, and the fact that these men att the time back in the 18 14 were giving their lives and to make sure that that didn't happen in such a pivotal battle.
01:13:51
Yeah, it's like, Wow, our flag still there.
01:13:54
And then my 49 state was Hawaii's Pearl Harbor. The U S A.
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Very aboard the USS Missouri.
01:14:01
And think flying above the Arizona, even though it's very, is our flag still there? It's just that common red is just the camaraderie and the fact that we can all get behind, uh, the amazing access our that the men in them and have done and continue to d'oh.
01:14:23
And you've added that to to it as well, Because at the end of each performance, you provided line cards for 10 days to write messages to deployed military and veterans.
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Why did you choose to incorporate that element into your appearance? And how has that been received? Well, I was doing this whole mission because I wanted to give back.
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I usedto Lovell in L.
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A.
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And for about nine years I'd always be hearing myself say, You know, when I make it big, then I'll give back.
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I got really tired of hearing myself say that also coming to the like realization, like what actually constitutes making a big What, Are you happy with something, you know? So, yeah, I was singing, you know, um, to give back.
01:15:04
But what was what I really wanted to do is provide something a little bit more tangible.
01:15:08
Uh, we'll put audience numbers that was patched, their gratitude, thio something that they actually wrote, and it would be delivered.
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And it was really, really wrong with you.
01:15:17
I didn't realize that that would become the moment for me.
01:15:21
That is that, like, it was just like I didn't care about making it big anymore.
01:15:25
I was so involved in collecting these thank you notes and then having me the moment.
01:15:30
I mean, I met 92 year old World War two veterans who stormed Normandy on D Day.
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Gave me such amazing advice to pass along to people.
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I talk about him wherever I go speaking corporate events, and where I go, I talk about Cliff.
01:15:44
Um, and all these things would have never happened if you know, I didn't have these cards that I just kind of hate when we just see if I could call up in these cars and I didn't realize how well received it would've wound, but I still do things like that.
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It has some called Janine team.
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Anybody could go to my website, national Anthem Girl and just Goto join Gene's team. That's the page.
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And every month about I have a different mission where people are still wedding cards for veterans that I get and deliver them.
01:16:19
That's awesome.
01:16:21
You know, so many great singers have taken on the anthem some with huge success, others Not so much.
01:16:27
Um, aside from your own version, is there a version out there that you just like every time you hear it go? Wow, they nailed it.
01:16:35
I mean, Whitney, Houston and Bobby, You can't You can't top what she did.
01:16:41
I think it was also the timing of it.
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And, um, you know, Howard, just you just witnessed a huge arena of people all coming together, and that was my goal.
01:16:53
This was before any protests were happening.
01:16:56
You know, this is in 2014 where I really felt like for 90 seconds, we all put our agendas aside and we're united under one, cause not if you look at that on YouTube. Her video.
01:17:09
I mean, it just shows that so any that's one of the standout one.
01:17:14
For me, Your journey is also the basis of the new Amazon Prime do***entary National Anthem Girl, produced by Kelly Filmworks.
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You provide the narration as the do***ent do***entary follows your self financed two year journey to spread American pride on display.
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Gratitude for the brave men and women the anthem represents.
01:17:33
After seeing the do***entary and having the opportunity toe to step back and reflect on what you were able accomplish, What is your takeaway from that? Those two years on the road? Well, two things, Number one.
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I just think there's so much more that can be done.
01:17:49
Um, but the second thing is just that Wow, what would have happened if I didn't, you know, And I think that something could all stop and ask ourselves.
01:17:58
I tell this to audiences young and old. You're never too young.
01:18:02
You're never too old to make a difference.
01:18:04
And I think What what I was really happy that the film captured was this wasn't something.
01:18:11
This film is not about me, you know.
01:18:14
It's basically an illustration to say What can you do? And there's a quote that I always refer to in my talks.
01:18:22
You know Roosevelt that do what you can with what you have, where you are, and that's what I did.
01:18:29
I didn't have ah, corporate budget behind me.
01:18:32
Thankfully, I was able to do some crash landing in the middle of it, which raised enough money for me to get towards, you know, two through to the end.
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But it's really about challenging ourselves as individuals.
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I'm not waiting for somebody to handle something, but a Well, what can I do? You know, what can I do? It? Would I have e Excuse me and then just see what happens.
01:18:54
A za result.
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It's pretty cool.
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Lastly, it's pretty amazing for all 50 states.
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No events were ever cancelled, a rained out, but something strange happened at the very last event.
01:19:07
So can you tell our audience a little bit about that and how you took it as a sign? Yeah, Um, so painfully that we're no going out events.
01:19:16
There were a couple that were near misses that. Then there was a backup.
01:19:20
Um, again, I was on a very, very tight budget.
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So if somebody had canceled an event, um, I was out of AA flight and everything else and then you didn't know it was gonna happen in the scheduling later on.
01:19:33
So, um yeah, there was.
01:19:35
I hate to give it away because I feel like if people go to Amazon prime and watch that movie, the buildup for it is just so important.
01:19:46
I can't do it justice by saying all the all I will say is it's amazing to me that it happened in the 50 estate and how it could have if the timing was just slightly off.
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We This could have been a completely different story, and it just it just wrapped it up like a bow like a gift, you know, like here it is.
01:20:12
Um, and I was so humbled for it have happened.
01:20:15
The one thing I'll say is there were people later on that told me that it was the thing that happened only happened in the vicinity that I was, and it wasn't even a mile away from anywhere.
01:20:28
Oh, yeah, definitely giving you that.
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That's a great to use, and I believe so.
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So where can people see this great do***entary? Which, by the way, a portion of proceeds from the film are being nominated? Several organization whose sole purpose is supportive.
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U.
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S military personnel past in president? Yep.
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Folds of honor on operation Gratitude Every quarter of the film company, which has been so often they're donating money from the proceeds to help other nonprofits.
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So you can go Anna von Crime just like national anthem Girl.
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You could watch it if you watch it and you like it.
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Write a review.
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If you don't like it, don't worry about it.
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You and then you could also go to an awesome girl.
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Doc dot com anthem girl doc dot com If you want to actually buy the physical DVD, they're also doing screening.
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So if there's anyone who has a nonprofit or organization that you'd like to have some type of screening events so that you could raise money for your charity, that is the website to go to to get more information for that as well.
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So it's available has actually been aired on some cable all across the world.
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Actually, I was getting e mails from Angola, Australia, allover the world, its unseen, but to goto Amazon promise, probably the easiest of all the options.
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Awesome.
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Janine's Ang National anthem girl.
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Thank you so much for your time tonight.
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More importantly, thanks for a great project and a great film.
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We really appreciate it.
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Yeah, and I just want to say to any veterans out there who are listening Thank you so much for your service and your sacrifice and happy.
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That's from the big moral.
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I couldn't say it any better.
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Thanks so much.
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Janine Stang, National Anthem Girl will be back right after this message.
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You know, I scoured the Internet for what I felt was the worst version of national anthem in the recorded history of national anthems.
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This is a, ah, Canadian jazz singer Alexis Norman's.
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