Hello Lakers nation.
Welcome into the Lakers Nation postgame a show seven in a row.
The Lakers won seven games.
That it's it's incredible.
This team could really go on a major win streak in to start the season.
They're developing chemistry there, growing before our eyes.
It wasn't pretty tonight, but they're winning games.
What an amazing turnaround from last season.
Yeah, you mentioned that little bit.
We were talking before before we went live here.
That, yeah, this isn't a game.
The Lakers probably win last season and and they're getting away with it now.
I do want to say this this fear.
I felt like I was watching a game from the mid 19 nineties where it was just really tight defensively.
But, I mean, I said Squad, who has championship aspirations? You want to be able to win these type of games.
And they had that big comeback against Chicago with doing at both ends of the floor of a defense and offense against albeit not a very good Chicago team.
But I mean this one Miami, off to a decent start, came into this one.
I believe that What were they six and two coming into this one.
So you know they're playing pretty well, you know, overall, and for me sometimes if if the offense isn't ruling and if you look at the numbers, LeBron 80 combined for 51.
That's more than half the points a team scored.
Ah, little concerning that.
Nobody else got in double digits.
But the good part about this season so far.
They've won games in different ways, and and they're doing it all sorts.
They had to play ugly.
They've had to play catch up, which is not a few times.
And they played one against against Utah, where they kind of one beat the Jazz easily.
So it's encouraging to see what they're doing so far.
Yeah, I mean, look, this is This is the kind of game that they don't grind out last season because this game was not pretty and they found a way to win.
They found a way to still get the W.
I thought they were the better team, no question.
I thought if they had lost, it would have been it would have been a travesty because they were the better team out there.
on the floor of the Heat were throwing some different defensive schemes at them, going zone and things like that.
I thought the Lakers should have exploited that a little bit more, but we'll get into all that.
The bottom line is, I think the better team won and these were games that the Lakers would have lost last year.
When they shoot this poorly.
It felt like they couldn't hit anything and we'll get into the stats in just a minute.
But what about that? The fact that they're finding ways to win games that were so used to seeing them lose at this point.
But and that's the I think that's a key factor when you look at when you look at how this team has won because again, I still think there's some room.
A lot of I don't want to say some room, a lot of room for improvement on the offense of end, right, like you're gonna need other guys to step up, eventually help you win a game the way Kyle Kuzma did last time again.
Chicago Quinn Cook also had a big game, too.
But you want to see these guys be able t kind of win in different ways, but and I will say this, you know, we're going to have an ugly win.
Their defense has been awesome.
They're like locking it down.
And it's not like it's something where they're giving up their only giving up 103 points a game or 100 5 It's like, No, the last three games.
I mean, they played amazing defense, especially down the stretch.
So to me that was a big key for the team Last year is improving the defense event.
And, man, I don't know what Frank Vogel.
I don't know if it's the credit goes to Rob Pelinka for bringing in the right guys or it's dramatically because I've noticed with Frank Vogel this team it compared to the new N ba.
They're not switching.
They're not switching at all.
They're actually you know what to the defender, Like the guy who's getting screened there like a man.
Five Through it, girl, what do you want? Do And that helps gonna be there for you.
And I don't know if that's a scheme thing or just the right players, but defensively they look awesome.
So far, I think you've got a little bit of everything I play there you've got.
You've got Republican for bringing in the players that can do this.
They could pull that off and Frank Vogel for having that defensive mindset and then the stars.
I mean, let's look I was putting it out when I did a livestream earlier during the first half, LeBron James closing out two shooters with how hard he's closing out, if if 34 year old LeBron is putting in that extra effort, I know we've said this before, but if he's putting in that effort and he is closing out hard on shooters, no one else has any excuse.
This news 34 has logged a 1,000,000 minutes in the n B. A.
Has done everything, and if he's putting in the extra effort on the defensive end than everybody else, **** well, sure better be doing it as well.
So this is This is, ah, good defensive team, and it's been a long time since we've been able to say that about the Lakers and see something that's sustainable.
They've been OK defensively for a few seasons, but nothing that's really stuck.
It feels like this is gonna stick.
Well, I don't know who's logged more minutes LeBron James in the n B A or Travel lane on Lakers Nation shows.
So you Europe well with the fatigue.
But that's right.
I'm gonna one up. You don't want nothing on that.
Their their defense has been great.
You know, it's not just good.
It's been, it's been great.
And in today's MBA, we're giving up 110 100.
And, you know, especially teams were meddling around 500 on the lower end teams, and the higher and one's using a one in 32106 Around there, you see what the Lakers air doing? Yeah, I mean that that is a huge thing and tohave the defensive chemistry and almost the defensive scheme down already.
You know what, one of these eight games into the season? I think that that's gonna bode well for them going forward, but the big thing, but the big thing for them to and I do want to say this, I think this game did show, especially when the heat went to a 23 zone.
That shooting is something that they're gonna need, and they're gonna have to address that.
They're getting away with it against teams who might not be able to keep up with him right now.
And Miami was on a back to back.
But that is something eventually that you might see a team to do against him and say, You know what? They can't shoot really well from the outside.
So let's try and go to three and see what happens.
Yeah, the MBA is a copycat league, and where you find success, teams are gonna are gonna try to mimic that.
So we saw early on the Clippers in the first game, they had some success against the Lakers by pressuring their ball handlers.
So that's something that I would expect that we've seen other teams do.
So now that we've seen the Heat have something success in the zone, the Lakers can expect to see more zone.
And to be honest, I didn't think that he'd had success in the zone.
I thought the league know, eventually made the right reads.
They started figuring out.
I mean, look, I'm looking at going men.
This is what I would tell.
Like junior high teams I've coached you get the ball into the middle into the zone and then you can work from there.
Everything's gonna open up, whether it's a shot from outside, whether it's a drive to the rim.
The Lakers had more success with the drive to the rim.
The shots from outside we're open.
They were there and they were generating them.
They just didn't knock them down and look the same one for Miami.
Not that the Lakers were zoning them up, but 17% from three Miami, 25% from three for the Lakers.
And part of that was aided by an Avery Bradley three.
Their garbage time to up the percentage a little bit.
But overall, LeBron James was four of seven from three.
Nobody else shot unacceptable percentage tonight from three.
Yeah, yeah, and and And And you're right with that with the breaking down the zone And I thought that you have another key to it is when you go in.
So you're gonna give up more offensive rebounds so that what they did is they just want with Chipotle McGee, right? And Anthony Davis.
They're like, anytime we miss a shot, fellas.
Well, I didn't get the rebound, and they were able to do that, too.
And I agree with you.
You know, it's not that again.
I don't want to.
I'm not gonna bash the Lakers friggin seven, and you know what I mean? Here you sit here and say, Yeah, they're doing awesome, right? I'm just saying when you play against top level teams night in a night own, especially referring to come time for the playoffs, you need other guys to step up and hit shots.
Danny Green absolutely has the capability of doing that.
Kyle Cruise, my absolute, absolutely has the capability of doing that.
But they want you want them to do it consistently, and I think that's where that's what that was.
The only negative I took from this game is man, those three point the three pointers that this team is missing their wide, wide open, and Danny Green was on fire.
Remember that opener against the Clippers? And you want to see that coming? Kind of coming from these guys as often as you can? Yeah.
I mean, look, this is that was the one thing they were supposed to have fixed this summer was that they brought in shooters.
I mean, Quinn Code.
Troy Daniels, Danny Green.
None of them shot at a decent percentage from three tonight.
And part of that was, you know Miami does put in the effort on the defensive end.
They fight. They do close out on sure things.
But there were still open looks that they were just just flat out missing.
And it's one game that doesn't necessarily mean a lot.
But if we're looking at this season heading into the game, I believe the Lakers were 25th in 3 27 inch.
It was 27 that they were at about 31%.
So I'm going to take a look here and see what they're at now.
Now that the this game's in, it's Ah, it's a concern of mine.
I think you can't you know, I think these guys are good shooters, but it's something to keep an eye on.
And if I guess the big takeaway here is their winning these games without shooting well from three, so once they eventually do start shooting well, they should be even better.
That's trivia scary thought, but at some point these shots have got to start going in or the Lakers were gonna have to start exploring some other options.
Oh, yeah, you know what you mentioned? We talk a little bit about last year, you know, and again it's night and day compared to last year.
To this is this year's team is it's 100 times better, and we're probably, you know, sweet or beat last year's team in five games.
You know what I mean? You basically could cause the rosters.
**** well, different anyways to that point.
But if you if you look at it like Troy Daniels was brought in to be a three point specialist, you shooting eight of 30 on the year he's supposed to be the best three point shooter on the team.
That's according to Yeah, yeah, and you look at that.
It's like, Do you know, I don't know what which team you think you're playing on.
It might be the J V team that Trevor was coaching, that you're the best team best three point shooter on.
But I mean, when you look at this like these guys, and that's all I want to see from from some of the shooters LeBron and 80 have been great.
They've been just as advertised, especially now that you mention it to.
They've both been amazing defensively.
Oh, yeah, they're they're not.
They're not taking any place off.
They're they're challenging shots like you mentioned LeBron getting out to the shooters and rotating and holding his ground in the post and taking charges.
We've seen him do a few times this year, so everything is rolling right now, But there still is some room for improvement.
And again, that's a good sign for a seven and one team come in eight games into the N B A season.
Yeah, like there's a few people in the chat that have said, Oh, you guys were complaining about stuff getting No, I'm not.
This isn't complaining.
This is saying that they're really, really, really good already.
This is a championship level team right now.
They could win a championship, just as is there a contender right and we have many will say that a long time, but I'm saying there's a hole of the level they can get to because they're not hitting threes right now.
They're not doing a few little things and they're not expected to do everything perfectly because it's a brand new team.
There's a ton of new faces out there.
It's not complaining.
It's There's excitement in the fact that this team has not hit it ceiling, and there's some clear and obvious things that they can do in order to get closer to that ceiling.
This is a good thing we're not complaining about.
The lack of threes were saying that that this is a good thing because they can get that much better, and that should be scary for the rest of the league.
If you're looking at this Lakers team, you're going Holy crap there, seven and one and they haven't figured things out yet.
And they're not.
That's the point here, guys.
Not Oh, the Laker terrible from three.
And let's let's complain about stuff when they're seven and one.
You know, I figured people we're gonna the fact they're not a very good thing.
Once you name there in the bottom five gonna lead.
You know that we're not We're not making stuff up.
The numbers are right in front of you.
So we're saying eventually they're gonna have to get some of these guys consistently hitting shots for them.
I might complaining the fact that they're seven and one knowing my complaining about the fact that they are a complete lock down defending team where there probably would be a top if not the best, the top three team defensively.
No, they're great.
LeBron are playing amazing.
So for me, you know, I'm looking at this against a team like the Miami Heat.
Who again, I think are gonna be in the playoffs in the East is this was a very good This is a very good win.
They locked him down.
They held some of their guys in check.
You know, some of the guys that were playing real well, um, like none on Miami coming into this one to help him to 10 points on four of 11 shooting.
So they obviously doing something right now, we're just looking at it like, Okay, how are things going to get better? Because we've got to remember this right now, and I'm not saying this in a bad way way.
We've talked about this quite a few times.
The 1st 20 games the Lakers could legitimately after this start be 18 and 2 17 and three.
If you look at their schedule and you know what? I would not be shocked by that, but then you're gonna go through run.
We're gonna run into the Denver.
You're gonna go at Utah, you're gonna play at Portland, where teams are a little bit better at home.
They have shooters.
So are the Lakers.
At that point, they can rely on their defense.
But are they gonna be able to keep up with some of those? Seems I have already think they will.
They can beat any of those teams in a seven game series.
I'm saying, eventually you're going to need some of your your bench guys that hit some big shots for you.
So hopefully we see that going forward So the Lakers can hit even another level.
Even they're playing even better than what they are right now. Yeah, 100%.
They can hit a whole new level of play to go from from Not really complaining here, too, something that fans have been complaining a lot about.
You know where I'm going with this KCP? Uh, yeah.
So this was very, very clear.
There was a moment in the game.
KCP check back in.
It was in the third quarter, I believe, and the Staples Center crowd.
They expressed their displeasure with the fact that he was coming in.
Um, on one hand, I don't like seeing a Lakers player getting booed by the home crowd, but at this, and I feel like it's a degree.
KCP has been kind of escaped, loaded a little bit, like like now every single mistake that he makes is magnified because everyone is looking for it and it's become this.
It's become this this nerve that just gets pressed with Lakers fans when KCP messes up.
If you ruin something, you know, like Dwight Howard, he missed ****ogue loop like he missed a dunk.
Yeah, and nobody's upset about that because they've been playing well.
KCP has not been playing well, and so he air bowled a layup.
I mean, let's just say he airborne the layup, okay, were going berserk and it so in that sense, I kind of feel bad for him, but the same time I get it, he should be.
He's a better player than this.
I've been saying it, but he hasn't been showing it out there on the floor and ah ah and I'm going to be a little bit concerned for what's the What's the mentality right now? If KCP If you're at the point where your own fans are booing, the coach's decision to put you in his mentality is well, I'm shouldn't keep cashing those checks that I'm getting us.
Keep booing way while you're sitting there. Payment.
$450 to come watch me now.
I'm getting, uh You know what you are.
He looked good against San Antonio again.
We talked about it that you know what? He was fine.
And then you saw him again today.
And this is something we've seen from KCP rids.
You know, he'll take you'll have four bad games to decent ones and then four bad ones again.
So and this this kind of ties hand in hand with what we're talking about about addressing the bench.
If KCP is basically your seventh man right now, which is getting those minutes of being the seventh man, that's gonna be a cause for concern. Come time for April.
May It isn't right now in early November, but I agree with you.
I think when you look at his mentality, I wasn't a fan of the people booing him at the game.
I mean, he's still a part of your team.
He's never trashed.
The Lakers are asked for a trade.
He's not trying to play poorly.
He's not going out there and just and tanking or anything like that.
That's not what's happening.
No, but we can't.
We can't take away from the fact that he is playing like that.
He looks like garbage garbage in most of the games.
And and that's something that again we said that when one scoots comes back and I still think who's when he finds his footing, he's gonna be a whole lot better than he was tonight.
We saw glimpses of that against Chicago last game, but again, somebody's gonna have to get those minutes.
I like what Alex Caruso is doing again.
You don't know don't want these guys to come in.
They don't need to come in and score 15 20 points a game.
They're gonna come in and make sure that if their starters airplane, well, they're not messing that up for them, and and a guy like Caruso able to do that.
Quinn Cook again.
Not noticeable today, Okay, but didn't do that bad of a job.
But with KCP, it's been when he's off, he's really, really bad.
And I think that's what's getting the people right now watching, watching this team play.
Oh yeah, no question right now for me.
And you know how I feel about Rondo.
I'm taking all of Casey piece minutes, and I'm giving them to Roger.
That's that's That's the right now that that's where we're at.
Right? Rondo replacement level of K of KCP.
That's where we're at.
Look, here's the thing.
Like, I think Alex Caruso should get more minutes out there or as many minutes as he can handle right now, because he's been excellent.
He's done a nice job defensively.
Did a great job cutting today.
That's the thing against his own because you're not responsible for a man.
Cutters confined, there seems, and Alex Caruso did a great job explaining that LeBron day we saw him cutting as well a d a few times.
So Caruso, he was in a great opportunity to thrive in this game.
And that's one thing I want to mention about KCP.
I don't I agree with a lot of what Frank Vogel has done.
I think he's made some great in game adjustments.
I saw him looking for shooters tonight, recognizing that they needed somebody that could put the ball in the basket and him going to his bench and finding Troy Daniels and Quinn Cook and looking for anybody that could put the ball in the bucket.
So I think he's done well.
But putting KCP on Jimmy Butler is just It's making the mistake all over again of putting him on Kawhi Leonard.
You can't do that and expect them to have success.
He will not be successful guarding Big Wings.
We have learned that there's no point in putting him out there on those.
I would rather see Kyle Kuzma try to keep up with those guys just because he's a little bit stronger, then see KCP trying to deal with because it's it's not going to happen.
He is going to get lit up.
Yeah, yeah, you hit the nail on the head.
We talk about that after Game one.
I remember we're having that discussion like what the hell was kcp doing guarding him wide.
Leonard, you know, I understand if it happens on a switch or there are many things were like that. It happens.
No, I I get that.
But I mean, at the same time, it's like, how many times do you have to see the same movie played over and over again and expecting a different ending Like Casey piece metrics in terms of his defensive reading, all with the team he's got His numbers are really, really good.
Third, best defensive rating on the team, I believe coming into this one.
But his individual, you can't put him on its like KCP was playing on Miami.
Would you put him on LeBron James? No.
He's gonna get George to, so I don't know what Maybe Frank Vogel had some secret discussions with the Mafia on dhe.
KCP has a tape, so he's like, You know what? We're gonna We're gonna make sure you play this guy, but I feel like a c P must have wrong Frank Vogel in some way.
He must have done something.
Something to him.
I don't know what, but he must have done something to have been Frank Vogel is just like it's like, Yeah, I'm going to get back at him.
Okay, go guard Kawai.
All right, now you got Jimmy Butler.
Hey, Johannes here, Casey, Go, go Guard him.
It's like he's punishing KCB because there's there's no way he's gonna be successful trying to guard those guys.
No, I I agree with you.
And that's something that again, there's one guy out there.
We've talked about it tell to beat the horse to death, and Andre Iguodala will solve all that problem for this team.
So hoping hopefully easier when that bio period starts in December.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
You know what? Look, I keep I've been saying it.
I'm gonna go back to it again.
KCP is a better player than what we've seen.
I still believe that he's streaky.
We've seen long stretches before, where he's played poorly.
I firmly believe that at some point this season, he's gonna hit some big shots for the Lakers.
It may take sometimes it seems like it takes them a month to snap out of it.
It's gonna happen in Game 82.
You don't have to win and LeBron you're sitting there, it's a meaningless game.
That's when it's gonna happen, right? No, I think I think that we are going to see better out of KCP.
Just the question is wind.
When's that gonna cut me? And he's had a few good games that he sprinkled in here.
But I want to see a more consistent, better performance out of KCP.
And and part of that is don't make him guard those big wings.
But I I feel for him.
I empathize with his situation.
I feel bad that he's dealing with with fans booing him and all that kind of stuff.
But ultimately he does need to produce on the floor.
So it's gonna be something to watch.
Um, ultimately, the way you fix it is you play better.
At some point, he'll start knocking down shots, and then people would get off his case.
Yeah, and you know what I think the Lakers, as as Kyle Kuzma gets like I said into game shape, get their feet under his legs under and you're looking at your your starters are starters.
I don't think that's gonna change for a while.
And then he got Dwight Caruso, who's coming off the bench by group.
Who's your number one? Dwight? You Number two.
And and then Caruso number three does have been your best player, so and that's a pretty **** good rotation for the Lakers.
So I do think that 9 to 12 spot, they do need some help.
And hopefully it comes in the form of Andre. Good dollars.
Yeah, Andre Iguodala.
Speaking of which, so news came out the other day.
That and I talked about this on one of the Lakers nation shows.
At this point, I've done somebody I don't even remember which one.
I talked about it on.
I I know I talked about.
It was one of my talking points.
I was the solo podcast.
I did a couple shows ago.
So this was from David Aldridge, who mentioned that, um, he had been hearing that It's pretty much from general managers around the league.
They are making the assumption that even L.
A will go to the Lakers.
He said he heard a few people say Clippers, but it's sounding most likely that he'll go to the Lakers if and when he gets bought out by the Memphis Grizzlies, which I think would be brilliant.
It's exactly what this team needs.
You need someone you can put on Jimmy Butler.
Which, by the way, I thought Kyle Kuzma at the end of the half did a great job locking down Jimmy Butler played him perfectly on the perimeter, so hopefully Kuzma can pick up some minutes against bigger wings.
But I still think they need another player.
And even though it would be a great fit and it feels like we're trending in that direction we're moving towards equal is going to be a Laker.
In fact, Aldridge even went so far as to say that other teams are hesitant to make a trade with the Grizzlies because they know it would always going to wind up a Laker because that's where he wants to go.
And they don't want to trade for a plan that doesn't want to be there.
Why would they? Then? What's gonna happen after that is all the fans from the other 29 teams in the N.
You're gonna come out and say, Well, look, the Lakers are you know, it's all getting stacked in their favor and whatever everybody just count the last seven years that happened before this.
But that's fine.
You know what I mean? So you know, it's simple dollars choice.
You've done what you had to do it Didn't you know Memphis was basically looking at him, not at the player as an asset.
And if they're unable to get anything out of him in terms of the trade, and other teams are hesitant, great for the Lakers, that means they're gonna buy him out.
We'll save some money on that, get some extra cap space and he'll sign in the purple and gold.
And then, like I said, it'll make the Lakers that much scarier on.
And what else will do it as his team gets to Game 20 and you're gonna see the offense role a little bit more? I think the Lakers are completely on the on the right track right now.
I like what Frank Vogel is done with this team.
I think the focus on defense has been tremendous.
I think they're scary team in the Western Conference.
They're really, really tough for somebody Thio for somebody to deal with out there.
One of the things that jumps out when you look at the stat sheet is that this is the first game that there hasn't been 1/3 player to step up.
There's a first time first time I've seen so far.
It's been this game was all LeBron and 80 and part of that was just really poor shooting.
Uh, I don't think that's gonna be a trend.
I think next game will see somebody step up. They will.
You could say Alex Caruso did a little bit.
I mean, three of six shooting that solid three boards forces one block, six points in 19 minutes.
You just didn't really have anybody have that big blowup game like we've seen Dwight do it in the past.
We saw Troy Daniels do it.
We've seen a number of other players really get going.
I'm still waiting, though.
I think consistently in the future it's gonna have to be Kyle Kuzma, but it just feels like he's just not quite ready yet.
Maybe in a few more weeks.
But I don't think he's ready to be that third guy just yet.
Yeah, it just doesn't look fully there yet.
First, physically, right now, she's expecting.
I mean, it's been offer has been off for a couple of months and you missed it.
Missed a couple of months and not playing real live game action.
And to catch up to speed to an end game is gonna take you some time.
But the one negative I would say about who's so far there was one structure in the first half, like you shot taking some bad shots right now, right? He's forcing it a little bit and taking some contested shots.
And that will come with time and again.
This is a game where those missus didn't hurt the Lakers because and I'll ask you this at any point.
Did you actually think the Lakers were gonna lose today? No.
No, that was That doesn't Yeah, this game.
It looked like they were in control most of the way.
I kept thinking, Okay, there's an explosion coming because all they need is a run like a like a 10 to run, and that would pretty much put the game away.
I didn't think Miami would come back from that.
Yeah, And I was I was with you.
I was just like watching the way it kind of shook out even in the first half and the heat were kind of keeping it close.
I was still kind of like, You know what? I think the Lakers are good year.
So it was good to see.
Like Danny Green did it once and Quinn Cook had that one big game.
You mentioned Dwight Howard.
We've seen Troy Daniels do it, but you just need.
And I think we've talked about this a little bit, too, during the postgame shows is you don't need one guy doing it all the time, although we do believe Kyle Kuzma will be that guy.
You just need one of the other players and it doesn't matter.
Daniel's Howard Cook.
You know, somebody just to hit some shots.
And so I think hopefully they're gonna get to a point where the shots don't start falling.
If not, yeah, he come down to December January.
Look at the bio market.
Look, if you could get somebody on the cheap for a second round pick and an A GE Li guy or and some cash to bring in now, you could get some open shots for you because what Troy Daniels was brought in here to do.
He's not doing it.
And still, the team is sitting here seven and one.
So I mean, you want you want to get that much better, right? Absolutely.
I do think they need a little bit more quality from some of those guard spots, but But we'll see.
There's gonna be some opportunities there on the bio market for sure.
Um a what kinds of comments coming in here, By the way, that us You Those of you who are commenting here, joining us on the live chat.
You've already crashed the live chat, like, 10 times.
At this point, there's completely overwhelming at which is which is phenomenal.
I absolutely love it.
Um, somebody just said, let's bring back Lance and his air guitar.
I don't know what to say about that. I'm not responding.
Lance is better than K.
C. P. I'm seeing people say that.
I don't I don't agree with that fully, obviously.
But is it is it really Isn't that big of a difference in case you feel answer right now? Right now? No, But again, I think kcp could be better than you're gonna be saying this march and then you're gonna keep the last two weeks of April is going to be phenomenal.
I'm gonna roster on my fantasy team last two games of April.
He's gonna be great from periscope.
The tone, Dee said.
What does the front office have to do to move? KCP has a no trade clause.
Yeah, he does have a notary claws at the fact.
Oh, no trade clause.
And it's because he would lose his bird rights if he's traded, because, technically, he's on a one year contract right now until the second you get picked up.
He is a player option for the second year.
So for right now, unless he decides to go and pick up the second year option, which he's not going to do right now, uh, he has a no trade clause.
He can deny any trade because he would lose his bird rights if he's traded.
So what do you do? Well, he does have a 15% trade kicker.
So should he decide that he wants to go somewhere else.
If Staples Center continues to be unkind to him and he decides he wants to go somewhere else, and the Lakers decide they want to move him and he wants to make 15% extra just for moving.
Ah, he could do that.
Otherwise, if KCP says I'm clutch sports, I want to stay with a D. I want to stay with LeBron.
It's served me well so far.
I'm getting paid millions of dollars, and maybe I am a link to LeBron.
Whatever that is.
He knows where the bodies are buried.
Yeah, he's staying, and there's nothing the Lakers could.
D'oh! Yeah, there is.
They should get LeBron 80 and Rich Ball.
Should each chip in two and 1/2 1,000,000 bucks and every $3 million say, Hey, you know, let's just say yes to this and we'll get ready.
We'll give you some extra cash.
I don't know if it's that hard, but you're right.
Maybe he loves living in L.
A. And he's happy doing what he's doing.
So the Lakers, I gotta deal with it.
And it's gonna be Frank Vogel's problem to fix at this point, right? Yeah, I mean, and he'll figure it out.
He's gonna keep giving him some minutes.
But at some point, if it's gonna cost him a game, those minutes are going to somebody else.
That's just that's what's gonna happen.
We're not at the point where, like, Zach nor Bella's coming up to take his minutes or anything like that.
But if you were to continue like this, maybe we'll see.
Oh, man, Oh man, just I didn't think I've seen the mellow comments already.
Will Johnson from YouTube? Smush Parker? Better than KCP? I don't know.
Is it really arguing? It's another legitimate argument you can have at this point.
I don't know, because very good lands like when lanterns on.
He's better than very good Casey feet.
Now Badlands is a lot worse than bad Casey fee, so I don't know.
They probably fit somewhere in the middle.
I just feel like they need one more wing.
It doesn't have to play 30 minutes a night. I think they're fine.
They're deep enough, but they just need one more wing.
And but the Smush Parker and and lattes defensive.
That's that's That's where we are now, Um, a man s So I've got a question here and Reginald Crawford from YouTube.
Trevor, where your thoughts on 80 guarding Kawai.
So if you were to have 80 cards, some of those perimeter players on a switch, Sure, but as your game plan Hey, 80 you're gonna go shut down Kawai Right now.
I don't think so.
Like a D can guard on the perimeter, but chasing a guy a perimeter player around all game, I don't think that's what you want him doing, So hey, could do it in the short term.
But to ask him to do that for an entire game or anything, I think you're asking for trouble.
Yeah, you know, you don't you don't want to do that.
And that's not that's not his m O.
That's on his game that he's not gonna be a lock down one on one defender.
He's a great rim protector.
Great, coming over on help side and altering shots.
So leave him where he is and again, like you mentioned, that happens in a switch.
But I wouldn't go that my primary game plan by any by any Yeah, no, definitely not.
Um, let's talk a little bit about what we saw out of or what we've seen out of LeBron James and Anthony Davis, because it this felt like it was going to be an A D game early on because he really got going.
And then by the time the game was over, LeBron had just kind of put the team on his back for the second half and really took off.
And so you wanted up with kind of like an Anthony Davis first half of LeBron James second half, and both of them put together really nice performances.
You look at their stat lines.
LeBron 10 of 19 4 of seven from 34 boards, six assists, 25 points A D had eight boards, seven assists, two steals, three blocks, 26 points 80.
Picking, picking up those assists because he was getting into the paint and then kicking out and and have a little drop off passes and all that.
I thought that overall it was a really complete game from both of them.
I thought they did.
They did a tremendous job and it was great to see because last time it was all LeBron and 80 kind of had rough outing.
So seeing both of them play so well together, I think is a great sign.
Listen, if they do this, if they do this kind of performer have this kind of performance part of me 50 times in the season where they're they're combining for 50 60 points or something that the Lakers are gonna win 45 of those games right there.
Just that, that good with those two together.
So to me, seeing them just develop the chemistry, getting them to learn and still there still scratching the surface, like, eventually, they're not fully comfortable with each other, but they don't know each other inside and out.
And what happens when you're playing in basketball and especially the same team? You start to learn the other players in a close game, right? Right.
And the Lakers, I mean, they've had a couple so far this season, but most of the games they won pretty easily.
Sands the the overtime game.
Yeah, the Dallas game.
San Antonio was going back and forth, but again, even then I didn't feel the game was in danger.
But when these two are on and when they get it together, man, I mean, how do you stop them on the offensive end and if they ever, and we haven't even seen him really do it to a point that they're just chilling teams with it is just running a two man game.
Yeah, they're they're not doing that without running a pick and roll.
Yeah, it's simple, is playing basketball, and we haven't seen them do that yet.
So once they get comfortable more and more like you mentioned, if they do this night in a night out, the Lakers should easily be the number one seed.
Of course, that's always pending with load management, which is another hot topic in the Well, let's talk about that.
I mean, load management.
That's been the big question.
Every show that I've been on this week has been asking about load management.
And what's the word your thoughts on that? Is that something that Lakers should start doing because right now, I mean, look, the Clippers just got fined for it.
That's a little bit different situation, But is this going to be something that the Lakers should do? What do you think, Jess? Uh, not right now.
I don't think I think they're too early in the season that you don't want to be skipping games because you're still trying to develop and build what your team is doing offensively.
It might have made take a toll.
I'm not gonna ruin the season.
Do we offer a game or two doing that? So I think the Lakers should look at with LeBron, maybe about 7 to 10 games, you know, 12 games around there and 80 depending on his health.
He still young enough? I mean, you know, if he gets his little Knox here and there, maybe given 56 games off, I just don't think the Lakers should be should be doing that, because when it comes to the playoffs, it's gonna be really, really close in the Western Conference.
So if the Clippers wannabe Ah, technically a home team in the road team in the Hallway series, that might not make a difference.
But, you know, for a team like Denver, we're winning at home is huge for them and they're they're much better at home than they are on the road.
I think if we're able to secure the home court and you're not running these guys through the ground, then try and limit the load management.
But definitely with LeBron.
I think you should look at it getting, you know, anywhere between eight and 12 games off this year.
What about you? Yeah, I I agree fully.
I don't think we're there yet.
That's why the only issue I have is that quiet is getting load managed already that we're talking about the first few games of the season and they're already like, No, he's not gonna play.
And he's picking national TV games to not play.
Ah, and I mean a big marquee matchup with Johannes that that just struck a nerve with people.
And so and I understand why.
But the same time, if you're the Clippers, if you're the Lakers, the regular season does not matter.
It doesn't it doesn't if they make the playoffs, that's that's all the matters.
That's all you care about is, can they? Are they making the playoffs? If the answer is yes, then absolutely.
Manage them and you need to get them. They're healthy.
Make it to the playoffs.
Healthy because, look, if the Clippers win first in the Western Conference, let's say that happens and they They play Kawai in 82 games and Paul George plays.
And however many games, he plays it after he comes back from injury.
No load management.
They went first in the Western Conference, but they are beat up and they have no energy and all that.
By the time they hit the playoffs and they get bounced in the first or second round, no one will remember what they did in the regular season.
It would all just be what a failure that season was, because look what they did in the playoffs, they still can't do it.
Story is the same for the Lakers.
It's their success or failure of this season is going to be the playoffs.
So if that means you shut down LeBron for a couple of games here and there, by all means, you do it.
I know look, and I understand fans getting upset and saying I paid good money for this game.
I'll never forget Shacks First season in town.
My Christmas present from my parents was to go see Shack live and in person.
He got hurt two games before, didn't get the Sam Hey, didn't play.
It's professional sports.
It's the risk, you know, that you're taking.
Yes, it sucks when you play.
Pay a bunch of money for a ticket and a player is not playing.
But again, it's about the playoffs.
The regular season does not matter for teams who have the goal of winning a championship this season.
You think of us, and I do get it from the fans.
Look, man, I'm doing a lot of money.
I can only come to a game a year.
Whatever it is, I understand it's not cheap to go with you.
I mean, you know what it is to go to a Clippers game.
I could walk down the street.
Is the street just April center right now sitting four rows in the court.
But is it really still that it is not? Oh, yeah.
You know, I was okay.
I was actually gonna look at the Clippers, the Clippers, bucks tickets, and you could have got in the door for, like, 12 bucks or something like that.
I mean, I remember one game time or something, that but, um, you know, looking at it from a fan's perspective.
I get it, and I understand it.
But then I also look at it from the perspective.
If you're really fan of the team and it's gonna help them win a championship, go ahead, dude, and sit out because I want to be watching and celebrating in June when the teams hosting the Larry O'Brien Trophy rather than you know me get in there having a couple of $14.
25 beers and $9 hot dogs.
You know, I don't think it's really that I don't think you're really pears.
Pears in comparison to, ah, to being a real fan of the team are going for entertainment.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
If you're a famous team, you want to see them play well in the playoffs.
So again, if the Lakers decided to adopt this load load management, I'm all for it.
I have no problems with that whatsoever.
No complaint. I do want to throw this in here.
So when I actually talked about this with Chris McGee on our last Lakers nation podcast, there was a map that came out the other day from the score on Twitter.
That had the Heat map.
The Clippers are the most hated team in California in the whole Southwest, but the Lakers are the most hated team in the country.
There's a few parts out of Golden State Warriors hate, but I think that's just that hasn't caught up.
The Warriors are bad for, like the next few months, that's gonna look different.
I think that's gonna flip the Lakers, too.
And I'm so excited that the Lakers are hated again.
This is This is great is a wonderful thing.
I love that the Lakers are finally hated because that tells me that the Lakers are back.
Well, you, why you won't **** me off to Trevor about about the Chicago game, too.
And I was seeing people tweet, you know, a screenshot of somebody saying it earlier.
Like, Ah, look at the Lakers.
Everybody thought they were good.
They're getting pumped by a by a crappy Bulls was And then there's McGee.
Tweeted that out.
Okay, I saw somebody retweeted then, and the second was another person I saw actually multiple examples of it, and the second person comes out like the same person would come over the second tweet like, Oh, look at Lakers fans bragging about beating the Bulls.
But what are you talking about? I get you flip flop like that. I'm sure they can.
You know, of course you could.
You could do anything on your immediate now, I mean, everybody, You're not gonna make everybody happy, but it's just ridiculous.
Like the amount of hate to get the look.
The Lakers have been terrible.
They have been unwatchable for the better part of 67 years.
They're turning things around.
You're **** right.
They're the most popular team to me in the n B.
A more popular than the Celtics.
And I know Boston has its own area of fans there that I'm not even messing with.
But the Lakers are a worldwide brand international brand.
They're gonna be right near the top.
And it's gonna be fun for all of us.
And, like you're lyinto watches all transport.
No, I'm say it's It's familiarity.
It's Ah, there's a There's a strong positive connection for me as a Lakers man, knowing that the Lakers air hated because for my entire life the Lakers were hated by everybody else because they were good That's why you get hated.
So, uh, yeah, I was excited to see that, uh, ascending keys.
Beats from YouTube.
Has said Mr T over KCP.
I pity the fool, man.
I e a, um Let's see.
I want to do I want to dive in It's, um or, er, questions.
There's a There's a lot, a lot of stuff going on.
A lot of this is just this guy over KCP.
We're not, like, trashing.
Keep saying it over and over again.
KCP is a better player than what we've seen.
He will be better at something, just just to clarify for the people who were watching Trevor.
Keep saying that, Casey and I am not saying that I am not of I'm done with the Casey Peter experiment, hoping to get Andre Iguodala would never have to see KCP again.
I love the defense were playing.
However, we have start hitting more threes.
Can you imagine what we will look like then? Uh, yeah, that's I guess that's the big point here, right? Like if the Lakers start knocking down their threes, who's who's beating this team? Who is the one about this team.
If the Lakers start hitting their threes, if they can hit even a little bubbly league average.
I'm not talking about you have you? Don't have to, like, be scorching the Nets from deep or anything like that. 36.
37% league average.
Typically about 35% you can hit 36 37%.
This could be a championship team.
And there were no, it's early and a long way to go.
Huge astros by that disclaimer, all of that.
But what we're seeing right now is so, so promising.
Well, you know what? You I'm again.
I'm gonna one up you a little bit.
They're already thinking the championship team, as is, you know, barring no barring they don't get the injuries and they'll be like that.
I think there, I think, with LeBron James and Anthony Davis, you're gonna have a shot at a championship, Not just a shot.
A very good shot at that.
Come time for April May.
But I agree with you.
I mean, you're looking at it.
If you can get to somewhere in that 14 13 13 18 range of the N B.
A in terms of three point percentage, you're dead.
What the defense is team is playing if they can add a little bit, Maur fluidity to the offense and be a little bit more smoother and get some of those big makes when they need them.
Man, I do think that this team is going to be **** well, unstoppable.
And if they play and load, no load management.
This is a 60 win team.
You, don't you think? Yeah.
Oh, yeah. Look, I agree.
If there was no limit, let's pretend everybody stays healthy for the entire season.
We turn off injuries.
We don't get that awesome shooting, right? Yeah.
And here I just I just grab my phone to do the math real quick here.
So to give you guys an idea, just a little bit of context.
Obviously, this is one game, and we could say the same thing for the Miami Heat.
They shot horribly, Okay? They were 17% from deep.
The Lakers shot 25% from three.
If they had shot league average, which is 35% they would have another.
They would have another nine points under their score a little bit more than nine points if they'd shot league average from three.
So you take this game for being a 15 point win and it becomes which is a decent blow out as it is.
And this is a 25 point win like that.
That's the dance, the difference.
Like if you get just a few guys that can knock in those threes, or if the players on the team now start hitting those you these games where they are gritting and grinding their way through, become blowouts, this team becomes a powerhouse.
And that's why we're talking about this ceiling being so, so high.
Oh, yeah, and a group.
You know, we look at Cu Zi was 1% in today.
I mean, you take his numbers off.
This team still shot seven for 25.
But that's one thing I do want to say to about Kyle Kuzma.
Last game against the Bulls, he was struggling in the first half, couldn't do much.
Then in the fourth quarter, third, late third, early fourth, where he got going in, the team started pulling away.
He was going to the basket and he was able to get some Lucy shots and some of them were tough.
But I mean, he was adjusting and there were lay ups there with intensity to the rim.
And then he was coming into.
His shots were coming in rhythm, and he was almost like he had this confidence.
Whereas today it was catching the three point line has to take for a second, then shoot it or you swinging backwards and shooting it.
And it's like those little things with crews are gonna get better.
It just after him.
I'm worried about that.
I'm not worried about Danny Green.
Danny Green's gonna build to hit threes all year and he's gonna do that.
He's done that his whole career, no reason to question him.
But you look at guys like Quinn Cook.
You look at guys like KCP looking guys like Troy Daniels.
Have we seen them do it from time to time? Maybe once every 10 games, 15 games where they hit some shots, But if the Lakers and want to get to like we said that next level were like, Dude, this guy, this team is gonna run roughshod over over some teams in the playoffs.
Those guys got to start making him a little bit more consistent.
They absolutely d'oh at unknown known 68 from Periscope said thoughts on coups. Bas regression.
Um, that's I guess that's just it, right? I don't think it's a regression.
I don't think that's what we're seeing for.
Actually think we're going to see a good season crowd boos.
But I think what we're seeing is rust.
I think he is gonna knock down those shots that you're talking about.
Just I think that that that's coming.
Think about Dwight Howard.
I think he hadn't played N B A basketball in a while, right? He only played nine games previous season, and those first few games we were going, Ah, Dwight doesn't look all that great.
The lift doesn't look like it's there. The explosiveness.
Now he's one of the key pieces of the team.
It took him what 789 10 games to really knock the rust off.
That includes preseason.
He had to get back into endgame shape.
I kind of expected Cruz might be a little bit better than what we saw tonight, but I expected there to be a bit of a learning curve.
Ah, bit of a rusty period where he was going to need some time in order to get back into the swing of things.
And I think that's what we're seeing right now.
I don't think there's a regression from Kozma.
I think he's gonna have a great season.
It's just gonna give him a few more weeks and then let's check back and see what he looks like.
Yeah, he's still looking like this in early December in middle of December.
Yeah, that might be cause for concern right now.
You know what? The guys on a stern game back or whatever it is and, you know, he just it's taking on time and it is going to You haven't played real basketball and against envy level competition for basically a couple of months since the Team USA practices and the scrimmage is in the camp in in August.
You look at that.
That's that's a lot of time.
You know, what about two and 1/2 3 months? So I agree with you.
I don't think it's anything about regression.
I think it's it's it's it's something right now.
He's got to find his feet, find his legs and kind of get used to the speed of things.
But again, if we're looking at this a month, month and 1/2 from now, then yeah, it might be it might be time to start ringing the alarm bells and a girl.
Okay, Something permanent wrong with with Guzman this year? Yeah, Yeah, for sure.
Um, let's finish up with a few stats here right now.
Your Los Angeles Lakers have the top rated defense in the N B.
A per defense of rating give.
5 points per 100 possessions, which is a full 1.
3 points better than the nearest Confederate, which is the Utah Jazz.
In terms of overall net rating, the Lakers our number one in the league at a plus 9.5.
That means, on average, they're winning games per one hand processions by nine, winning what? Winning a per 100 possessions stint by 9.
5 points, which is the best in the league.
And then you go.
You look at their offense, their 17th.
That's how good their That's how good this team is defensively that their net rating is number one, even though their offenses 1706 points per 100 possessions.
And that's exactly I want to mention this because it sums up everything we've been talking about this ceiling.
The potential for this team is on the offensive end.
If they're able to increase that even a little bit, they suddenly become an absolute juggernaut.
And that is so, so exciting.
Yeah, you hit the nail on the head, man, and that's where we're looking at it.
And I understand we're so early in the season and you're thrilled at seven and one.
This is also started doing what I mean for the team, better than being four and 3215 or whatever, you know, whatever.
It was having a rough start three and four, but in order and we talked about the preseason to before we even got going against Ah on October 22nd was that it's gonna take some time to figure things out on the offensive end, so we'll give the benefit of the doubt.
We'll look at 20 games in and see what's happening, and I think you know, guys that robbed blank on Frank Vogel and the entire staff will look at it like that to look.
All right, let's let's give it some time.
Like Cosmo, get healthy.
And But, like you said, man, if they get rolling offensively, I feel sorry for the rest of league of the later the Lakers are gonna be putting some beat downs on night in and night out 100%.
All right, guys, let's let's wrap everything up there.
Appreciate everybody who joined us and was throwing in all kinds of questions and comments and things like that.
A lot of KCP slander to work.
It's still coming in.
Okay, we'll take it.
That's that's kind of what we're here for.
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Appreciate everybody joining us Jazz as always.
Thanks so much for hopping in here with me and, uh, yeah, go Lakers seven wins in a row.
Next up, a matchup with the reigning champs That's run the Raptors, albeit a very different looking to run the Raptors.
But this is gonna be another good test for them.
I think this is gonna be a well coached team that's gonna be tough for the Lakers, and I'm excited to see what they do.
Same area be that this is a good one on Sunday.
I know that you don't have 100 anymore, but that they still come to play every night.
So that would be it would probably be a tougher testing.
What the Lakers have faced since that they play the Clippers open the season. Yeah.
It's gonna be a good one. Can't wait to see how the team responds.
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