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00:00:00
Hello, everybody.
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Welcome in, What a game.
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I don't know what just happened.
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The Los Angeles Lakers were getting smoked, most for the game by the Chicago Bulls.
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Somehow, some way they flip the switch, turned up the defense and walked away with a win.
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Actually, wasn't even all that close, 1 18 to 1 12 They had a little bit of a bigger lead.
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Before that, the Lakers pull off a win in Chicago on the road where it looked like they were done, they were dead in the water.
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So impressive stuff in that regard.
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We still have some things to talk about, though.
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How they got in such a big hole of one point, it looked like the game was over.
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Looked like the Bulls had blown the mount.
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The Lakers use some defense to come back.
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We're gonna break it all down.
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We're going to talk all about it.
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The good, the bad, everything in between LeBron James. His effort.
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Dwight Howard, Alex Caruso, Captain America Tons to get in.
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To make sure you guys stick around, toss in your questions and your comments, whether you find are finding us on periscope on Facebook on YouTube wherever you're finding us, toss us your questions.
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Your comments were going to be responding to them.
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As always.
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I'm joined by Jazz King.
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My name's Trevor Lane here for Lakers Nation.
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Jess, how you doing, man? You were telling me before we came on the air, you kept the faith.
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I wish I could say it was the same.
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But you kept the faith throughout this game.
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You thought the Lakers were gonna pull this thing off? Yeah.
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Did you know what? Because it was.
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It was a matter of dumb mistakes they were making on their own.
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That was that was costing them the opportunity to win the game, especially for those 1st 3/4 And as I was watching it, I'm like, You know what? If they start clamping down a bit defensively and put a little bit more effort and get the energy up, which I thought LeBron had energy all night and cat kind of kept the team afloat and I felt like the Bulls are such a bad team that they will be able to come back.
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And what we saw there was the fact that the Lakers ended up kind of and this is.
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Ah, Mark and I don't want to say there's this early in the season.
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I know people are gonna be like, you're jumping the gun here, but you're sitting at six and one championship teams do that.
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Would they have done this against a team like the six years of the Clippers? Probably not.
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They would have been down by 25 out of the game.
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But when you're playing against a team like the Bulls, you don't have your energy like that and you're still able to pull out a win.
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Just like completely killer come in the fourth quarter.
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I think this is the mark of a very good team.
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Yeah.
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I mean, look, what was the fourth quarter final tally? 38 to 19? The Lakers went on a 38 10 18 run in the fourth quarter.
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Absolute absolute dominance in the fourth quarter.
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Just It was like they suddenly just went okay.
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Now we feel like playing, and it wasn't even.
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Here's the amazing thing to me, Jess.
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It wasn't even LeBron or 80 that really got the run going, going. It was the bench.
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It was the bench that had looked terrible for most of the game. They looked awful.
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The Bulls guards were pressuring them, forcing turnovers.
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And then suddenly the bench just clicked.
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Cow Kuzma Big credit to him.
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He turned it up in the fourth quarter.
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And then here you go.
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Next thing you know, the Lakers were on a run and they pull off the win.
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Yeah, that was I actually tweeted that, too, that you know what the Lakers bench was.
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What's the difference tonight on? You know, LeBron James had it going.
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Anthony Davis obviously clearly did not his worst game of the season so far.
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But you look at it like, once, who's my God going? And we've talked about how important Cruz is gonna be for this team.
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Like if he's able to bring that energy off the bench.
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And you got Quinn Cook chipping in 17 points.
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Lakersbench combined for 48 tonight.
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That's the most all season, and we've been critical of it to save this team, you know, it needs to have depth, and it needs to have different guys step up all the time.
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And today was Quinn Cook.
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Kyle Kuzma.
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We're expecting to do that night in, night, out. But man.
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Yeah, the bench was so key for this team being able to win this game.
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And it was really the defensive effort to once.
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Once a Laker started challenging, more shots, rotating faster, getting out on the shooter's.
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The Bulls didn't know what the hell to do.
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And the Bulls are such a bad team that they allow them to come all the way back.
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I'm still in shock that they that they ended up doing that, too.
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But I mean, still, we're looking at a credit, completely goes to two guys like Ooze and Quinn cook off the bench.
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Yeah, those were two of the big players there.
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You know what? People were really frustrated.
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I saw this online. People were super frustrated.
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Kahuku asthma.
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In fact, I had texted you.
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I told you that we were gonna get a bunch of negative coups Mahat takes tonight that that's what was what we were gonna be dealing with on tonight show.
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That was what was gonna happen.
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And now I'm not sure we're still gonna get some, but I'm so glad that we saw Kyle Kuzma get going because it's it's been coming right? The rust has been slowly being broken off, right.
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He's been getting back into the flow, and now cruise mode just explodes into the fourth quarter.
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He was incredible, hit some big, tough shots, which is exactly exactly what the bench unit has needed.
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They needed that guy that could win.
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When things get bogged down, just take the ball and put it in the **** basket.
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And that was Kyle Kuzma tonight in the fourth quarter.
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Hopefully, we see more of that from him moving forward.
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Well, I think that's that really is the key.
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Trevor, like you're looking at, what? What? Koosman and bringing him up.
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There was a point, I think.
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The team was down 80 to 67 the Lakers were down and Koosman had the ball and he was about 34 feet behind.
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The three point line.
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Chucked it up, went short, and at that point I was like, Why is he forcing it so much? You know what I mean? It was what? Yeah, and that's why I was like, just let Wei saw that with Caruso in the preseason points where forcing things to happen and again, it's a bit of a cliche, but it's the truth.
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You're not.
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You're not gonna be shooting 34 feet behind the three point line.
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You're not Steph Curry, you know, especially coming back like that.
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And then we saw a Kuzma started going to the hole and getting easy lay ups, and some of them were tough and contested.
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And that started opening up his game a little bit more to so again, I think he's gonna get some timeto practice here, get get his conditioning a little bit better.
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But, man, we've talked about this a lot in the preseason.
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Is Kyle Kuzma is essential to the Lakers success? The element that he brings off the bench is sorely missed, and the Lakers got away with it cause they played some bad teams.
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You know that stretch? There were teams like Memphis and and Charlotte, but against a good team, you're gonna need cruise to do this night in a night out.
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Yeah, I guess that's let's talk about that real quick.
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The good team versus bad team thing here.
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If they were playing a good team, this isn't possible.
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So are you worried at all about them falling into this habit while they're playing bad? teams of thinking they can just flip the switch and go.
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I mean, they waited.
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If that was what they were doing, if they were kind of playing possible, I don't think that waas But if they were just kind of coasting along thinking, Hey, we can flip the switch whenever and you wait until the end of the third quarter beginning of the fourth quarter to put your foot down on the gas pedal.
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To me, that's a little bit of a concern.
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I don't think that's what was going on.
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But are you worried at all and then becoming overconfident about their own ability to launch these furious comeback? So we've been C? No, honestly, I'm not at all.
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And the reason why I'm saying that is because the Lakers are still learning how to play with each other as well, so they're not at their best.
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We haven't seen them play a complete 48 minute game where they were on from from tip off to the end of the game.
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And what you've seen from the Lakers is it stretches and spurts, right? They've done it a couple times where they had a dominant third quarter against teams like Memphis and and Charlotte and kind of pulled away then.
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But now what you're seeing is okay.
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They were terrible.
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Just call a spade a state.
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I'm like I was like in the 1st 1st record was brutal basketball to watch.
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The Bulls are J V Squad, in my opinion, and you're making him and the Bulls were just basically trying to hand it to him to the Lakers on a silver platter said, Here, take it.
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You know what I mean? It.
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And so when I was watching this, that thing I'm taking from it is the Lakers only seven games in with this roster, and they they don't know each other as well, so I'm not worried about them taking it easy.
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I think they're still figuring things out and again.
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I said that last time.
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That's a scary thought for the rest of the N B A.
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That you're sitting at six and one on, and really, you haven't even started scratching the surface.
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And in terms of getting chemistry down, get the rotations down.
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So you know me.
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I'm not concerned about that at this point.
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And with LeBron and Anthony Davis on your team.
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I don't think you're gonna have a lot of nights because Oh, yeah.
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I mean, we saw we saw LeBron put the team on his back and keep them closed pretty much on his own.
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He was the only one and that it almost It kind of made me upset for a little while there because LeBron was the only one hustling.
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LeBron was the only one putting in the extra effort, closing what I saw.
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I saw Lazy close out from Lakers Lakers players.
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I saw four by four box out.
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I saw lazy passing a number of times where they just telegraphed passes.
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It was ugly.
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It was a comedy of errors.
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It was everything that you don't want to see out of a team.
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And then it was like they suddenly just said, Oh, yeah, we know how to play basketball.
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And they and they got going.
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LeBron, though to his credit, did he dragged this team along to keep this game close.
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And so, you know, you have to throw plenty of credit.
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LeBron James, because when the rest of the team was letting down, he was still out there hustling and he refused refused to let them give in.
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And so again, big credit like we're gonna focus here on, we're going to say, Hey, Kyle Kuzma helped in the fourth, and Alex Caruso hit big shots and Quinn, Cook and all of these things that LeBron through some fancy passes in the fourth. Think about.
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Don't lose sight of what LeBron did over the previous 3/4 to keep this team at least within striking distance.
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Because without him, this is a blowout, and the Lakers aren't coming anywhere close to coming back.
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Oh, yeah, for sure.
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I remember the first couple of games people were questioning.
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If LeBron still has it, and if he's, you know not, why isn't he playing? It's hard like what is his third straight triple double? Insulin out three points.
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11 times 10 board.
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And there was one play I remember happened in the third quarter, where the Lakers were still, you know in that 10 to 15 point range, and they were they were getting close and that it makes him dumb plays.
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But defensively LeBron was guarding market in the post and he just locked him down and he didn't do anything.
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Market and had to pass it out.
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Then he went out and took a contested three that LeBron got out onto.
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So when you're seeing that to me, yeah, LeBron set the energy.
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LeBron bought everything.
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And that's what leaders do.
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And he actually like you said he kept the team in this because without him in the 1st 3/4 the Lakers are probably down 30 after three without LeBron playing the way he was. He was tonight.
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Oh, easily, yeah, no, no question.
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LeBron was that driving engine.
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He was that force that was keeping them close.
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And then finally, finally, everybody else picked it up.
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Let's talk about some of the stats here.
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How the things finished up.
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You mentioned LeBron triple double 10 of 19 shooting, eight of nine from the line.
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Yes, that free throw shooting is getting better.
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Last season we were we were toiling away at the free throw line with LeBron.
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It was not pretty.
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Eight of nine tonight, 10 boards, 11 assists, leading the league in assists right now, two steals, one block, 30 points.
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Anthony Davis a night to forget.
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Six of 15 shooting, one of two from 37 boards, three assists.
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One steal, three blocks, 15 points.
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He did some nice things on the defensive end.
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Some chase down block shots like that.
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So I'm probably overstating things when I say a night to forget.
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It's just not the night that he would have wanted coming home to Chicago, but the other guys that stood out.
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Kyle Kuzma, seven of 16 is a great one of eight from three, isn't great, but in the end, 15 points.
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Four boards.
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He finally got things going.
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That fourth quarter was extremely promising.
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17 points from my Boy Quinn Cook.
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Six of nine shooting from the field, which is nice.
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Four boards, two assists, one steal, one block.
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Big performance from him.
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I loved what we saw from Alex Caruso on the defensive end.
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The counting stats were just kind of have to steal.
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Seven points.
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Three boards.
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Two of eight shooting, one of four from three on Dwight Howard.
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Dwight had like like Dwight Howard, his stat line.
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You look at it and you go, Oh, he didn't do anything right.
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Three of four shooting.
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Six boards, one block.
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Six points.
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Like if he's on your fantasy team, you're not pleased with you were blown away by the activity level you saw from Dwight and how much he impacted the game again.
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This is another great performance from Dwight Howard.
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There were a number of guys who finally stepped up at the end and made an impact.
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So credit to the guys who did.
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And ah much needed this win because we've been talking about it.
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They need to pile as many wins on the record right now as they can.
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Yeah, I had had the record.
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Now you have this 20 game stretch that you're playing against really inferior teams.
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And I mean, there are gonna be some playoff bubble teams that will be there, but no championship contender ones.
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And you mentioned Koosman.
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Look, if you look at this shot chart, everything he missed was basically outside.
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He missed a couple from just outside the paint, but when he was scoring, it's when he's getting to the hoop and he was able to do that.
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That happened on Lee in the fourth quarter and that was the thing with the team started getting going and you mentioned White.
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I mean, I thought he was just okay through the first three and in the fourth quarter he was awesome. And you saw that.
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You know, the rebound off the coups and one free throw that one back in a huge right, and that's where he was.
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That's where he's, uh, he's gonna have to do that for a little bit more consistently throughout the game.
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But, man, I said this before to the bench was huge today, and that all happened with 80 and LeBron sitting there getting some rest.
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So and the Lakers are gonna need this, and you hope to see it when they play against championship teams again.
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A team with aspiration, like the Nuggets that they play.
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I believe it's December 2nd s, so it'll be interesting.
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I mean, you know, again, it was in the narrative from this game change from Oh, man, that is brutal, too.
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Well, that's that was not a very good game.
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But, you know, we're championship contender, able to come back from 19 points down against any team in the N.
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B.
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Especially on the road is something to be proud of, you know? Yeah, absolutely.
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Yeah.
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I mean, look, the Chicago Bulls are not a good team.
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They're not a good basketball team. They just they aren't.
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We know that.
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But the fact that that the Lakers were able to come back against that they're still in N B A team.
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Okay, right? I mean, like Anthony Davis flowing up against the Grizzlies bad team, but still in N b A team.
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So you have to give them credit for pulling that off.
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Because n BA teams play with pride, they usually are not going to make major mistakes.
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They're not gonna just hand it to you.
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I don't think the Bulls handed this to the Lakers.
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I thought the Lakers handed it to the Bulls in the early going by just making stupid mistakes.
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But then the Lakers put the clamps on the Bulls, and then they made them feel the pressure.
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That was that was really impressive.
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I do want to dive into some of our comments coming in here.
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We've got a ton of comments jumping in here, and, uh, they're I mean, look, people are somebody with the user name Mello.
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We've got to bring him up.
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Oh, no, no, no.
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But but he said we want Let's celebrate.
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Uh, I've got one person. Edward has said.
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It's Casey piece fault that we almost lost.
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And then another person.
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I just lost it here.
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KCP did a great job, did okay on offense and did a nice job defensively.
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KCP the the most.
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I don't know if I would say most hated Hate's a strong word, but they really, really, really don't like him, I guess you know, that's where Okay of the laters, right for Lakers fans right now.
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That's how Lakers trains are feeling about KCP.
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What did you think of his performance? Because I know there were a lot of moans and groans when it was announced that KCP was going to start in the place of the injured Avery Bradley.
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Well, to be honest with you, and I think this is where this is, where you mentioned it to, like Casey, you guys and he has an MBA player, right? And I think for some of these guys, you don't want to notice him be that bad.
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And I think that's what it was for KCP.
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He was just on the court today.
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Did his thing contributed 21 minutes.
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He had eight points in that time when three of seven shooting But, you know, for me, I'm looking at it like you playing a lot better than he did those 1st 2 games.
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And now for me, one of the guys who's starting to get into the KCP Zone is Troy Daniels.
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I have not like what I've seen offensively.
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Especially you're supposed to be a three point specialist. Just struggling.
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Other that Utah game again.
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Something for 24 on the season right now, if you were if you remove that game from it.
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So, uh, for me, Casey, I think you went with the measure as your starter.
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Because of defensive defensively, the team has been pretty good with him on the court, so I could see what you want to go with them again for me.
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I didn't notice him, and I didn't for a good reason or a bad reason.
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So to me, I think you did okay, which is exactly what you want.
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That's what KCP is.
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We've talked about this.
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He is not as bad as what we saw to start the season.
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He is not that guy.
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He's look, he could have had bad stretches.
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But overall, if you if you pan back and you look at the entirety of his career, he is an average eh? NBA player.
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That's what we saw tonight.
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You signed an average NBA shooting guard.
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Go out there, you some anything like that.
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But he's serviceable, and that's just that's where you have to set the bar like look, of its LeBron It.
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He goes out.
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But for KCP, it's a different.
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It's a different standard if he plays in okay tonight.
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So I have no problems with the performance that we saw from him.
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And I don't think there's any reason to throw shade at Casey piercing.
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He didn't he didn't find He did exactly what you would hope to see from him.
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Um, Andrew Davis, from Facebook, said, I like D 39.
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I guess we're going with the 39 for Dwight Howard.
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His passion this year.
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He is a difference maker on the defensive end.
00:15:40
Yeah, how about that? Look, a few kind of touch fouls and things like that, but a credit to him for continuing to go up and challenge shots, and then he's the guy that's firing everybody up.
00:15:51
He's crashing over Kobe.
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What, after he blocks his shot, he's flexing of the crowd, which became more and more pro Lakers.
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As name went on, it was almost like it was like Rocky four, when he's winning over the Soviet crowd when he's fighting Ivan Drago.
00:16:04
The crowd in Chicago was very quickly switching to the to the Lakers, and Dwight was was pumping them up.
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He has become not just not just the leader of the defensive end, our leader with his play on the floor, but he's been an emotional leader as well.
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And I'm I'm still just blown away by what we're seeing out of this guy.
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Yeah, I'm in.
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I'm in the same boat as you and as that commenter said, I think it comes from him being relaxed and having fun and, you know, it just seemed like even with this stops and me, we didn't see him too much last season with the injury.
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But you know, when he was in Charlotte and he's playing in these places, it looked like he was just there and he was running through the motions and right now it's like there's no pressure on him, nobody expecting Dwight Howard to be an awful start.
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Nobody's expecting him to play at A M V P level.
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You did for much of the beginning of his career with Orlando.
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And when you what you're seeing from you now is you know, I got LeBron and 80 on my team, it's their squad.
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I just got to come out and have fun.
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Nobody's gonna be coming up to me after the game and have 50 microphones in my face asking me questions about it, because that's not my job on this team anymore.
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So I think with him, he finally accepted the fact that, okay, I might not be the same player that I was 10 years ago in again.
00:17:04
I always say this big men age much differently than 10 guards doing so.
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It's not surprising and with the injuries that he's had.
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But now he's in a position where men you're gonna play 25 30 minutes a night, depending on the matchup and how you're doing.
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And all you gotta do is come out there, get some offensive rebounds, gets an easy put back dunks and Bloxham shots, and that's exactly what he's doing.
00:17:22
Yeah, actually, absolutely.
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He's being a star in his role and and you gotta love seeing that out of Dwight Howard and just the energy enthusiasm that he's brought.
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There's pressure on him to keep his career going, so he certainly has that.
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I mean, he's got that kind of keeping him in check.
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Keeping motivated keep him going.
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But a CZ first pressure to actually lead a team.
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He doesn't have to do that.
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He just has to focus on doing the little things well.
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And if he does that, he's going to be successful and the team is going to be successful as a result.
00:17:48
So you gotta like the way that's worked out for Dwight Howard.
00:17:52
I do want to dive into a few more of these comments, but you know, one of the things that I really hope is that the Lakers do pay attention to the game plan a little bit more.
00:18:01
Just you and I were talking about this ahead of time.
00:18:03
I do a three keys for the Lakers to win their next game before every single game.
00:18:07
So one of my three keys for this game was that look, the only path that the Bulls have to make even making this close is to force the Lakers to turn the ball over.
00:18:15
Their offense is not good.
00:18:17
They score a lot of points in the paint, but that's only because they do that off of turnovers.
00:18:21
They're really good at getting turnovers and getting the ball out in transition.
00:18:24
If you force them to play half court basketball, there's no chance the Lakers will win the game and they will steamroll them.
00:18:30
The Lakers coat.
00:18:31
If I am recognizing this, the Lakers coaching staff is certainly recognizing this, and they're telling them, executed exactly what the Bulls want wanted them to do.
00:18:41
They fell right into every mistake that Bulls were hoping that they would, that they would.
00:18:46
So I hope that something that improves as we go along here for the Lakers, I hope that they can execute their game plan from beginning to end instead of just okay, We're gonna get kind of get things going in the fourth quarter.
00:18:57
Yeah, exactly, you know, But this is one of those things where I would've probably said that.
00:19:03
Have they lost where it's like, OK, this with the games, you just throw out the window, you know what I'm saying? Like it was ugly performance on.
00:19:09
You were right.
00:19:10
You know, bad teams are going to stay in it against you.
00:19:12
If you're turning the ball over, that's just that's a giving it.
00:19:14
It happens in every endgame.
00:19:15
If a team turned the ball over 25 30 times, you know chances are they're still going to lose.
00:19:20
And the Lakers were just.
00:19:21
They were sloppy, and the game plan pretty much had to go out the window at a certain point because it was like they're not executing anything coming into the game.
00:19:28
And you saw that with the turnover.
00:19:29
You saw that with the lack of effort defensively, not not getting out of the shooter's.
00:19:33
The Bulls are on fire from the three point line, especially early in the in the game.
00:19:37
And so what happened there is they kind of had to get away from that.
00:19:39
And then this is one of those games where you gotta find a way to win and in regardless of it's not.
00:19:43
You're not rolling Anthony Davis at an off night.
00:19:45
In terms of offensively, you're trying to find the right combination of who's gonna be out there so and again, you know what a lot of people were pending the decision in the beginning.
00:19:54
But give some credit to Frank Bobo.
00:19:55
He's made the right calls and push the right buttons at the right time.
00:19:58
And you did that today, leaving those guys in there and said, Our Who's Dwight Howard Quinn Cook? You guys were playing while do your thing.
00:20:04
And then when it's time to we, can we maybe give LeBron an extra minute? Are, you know, two minutes of rest? So I think that was huge in this one as well. Yeah, absolutely.
00:20:11
Getting them that extra time.
00:20:12
And then what? Once the momentum was in their favor and they don't have to do all that heavy lifting yourself, LeBron plate with a little bit less of that kind of Oh, man, I have to go, Squirrel.
00:20:23
The time to that fun.
00:20:25
I'm gonna pass the ball around his one pass out to Quinn Cook.
00:20:29
By the way, no one saw that.
00:20:31
That was not incredibly through that pass.
00:20:36
I went Oh, my gosh.
00:20:37
Like I didn't even realize Quinn Cook was over in that quarter.
00:20:39
I was Quinn cook, all in the money, and he drains the three.
00:20:49
I mean, that that is unreal to see something somebody pass at that ball.
00:20:54
Oh, yeah, he's he He's been great, though the whole season.
00:20:56
And you know what? People are talking about it, you know, coming in saying, you know, maybe he's not the best player in the world.
00:21:02
Maybe he is.
00:21:03
And maybe Kawai is taking his spot.
00:21:04
I saw Shannon should tweet about that today.
00:21:06
It's like No, LeBron is.
00:21:07
Still, It's still the most important player in the N B A.
00:21:10
On his team because if he's on your slot, you have.
00:21:12
You have championship expectations.
00:21:14
And right now, with the way this team is starting to find its groove and Frank Vogel is gonna get some more time with Koosman, Alan Practice and they're gonna figure things.
00:21:21
Excuses.
00:21:22
Conditioning gets better.
00:21:23
I think you're going to see LeBron keep having these performances because there's no today was 10 of 19.
00:21:28
That's pretty **** efficient.
00:21:30
Just, you know, take that.
00:21:32
Yeah, and he was two of six from the three point line.
00:21:34
But I love the fact when he's getting to the rim and not settling for jumpers that pull up mid range.
00:21:47
You see him? Why did I mention that play he was guarding. Marketing.
00:21:50
If you bring in that defensive level, two men, he's going running for M v P.
00:21:54
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
00:21:55
He could very well find himself especially.
00:21:57
He's leading the league in assists at the King Butter on YouTube, said the bronze minutes Last three games, and I haven't been verified this, but 43 37 37.
00:22:07
I think that's too many.
00:22:08
I'm assuming That's why he was post thing, that.
00:22:11
What do you think the Lakers do? You want to cut down on those? They kind of had to play him a bunch tonight.
00:22:15
But what can you do if you're the Lakers to load advantage liberal on a little bit more? Because what we're kind of seeing is the opposite of lewd managed? Well, he's averaging 35 tonight as well, so I mean, it's right right in what he's kind of been trying that that game with the Mavs went to went to overtime.
00:22:33
So naturally I did get some more minutes there.
00:22:35
But what do they have to do not be so crappy for the 1st 2 quarters when you're when you're when you're playing playing basketball for 4/4.
00:22:43
Exactly. That's gonna be on the rest of these guys.
00:22:45
I mean, it's interesting because we talked about this at the end of the last show, right? We're like, Well, what we want to see is the Lakers come in 25 going into the fourth and let LeBron and 80 and these guys get some rest.
00:22:57
And that's what I have to do against these bad teams.
00:22:59
And we mentioned it this early in the season where you got a favorable schedule, take advantage of it that seat in these teams and beat him to a pulp.
00:23:05
So that way you can rest your guy.
00:23:07
So I think that's gonna be Q's putting together like we mentioned the entire 48 minute game, which we haven't seen the Lakers do yet.
00:23:12
Yet.
00:23:13
They're still six and one.
00:23:14
You know, I think that when Rondo comes back and with Kuzma back, we're going to see some load management games for the Lakers.
00:23:19
I think they couldn't do.
00:23:20
They can't do it right now without Koosman without Rondo to kind of run the show.
00:23:25
But I think that now it once they get run, go back.
00:23:27
I think they're in position to perhaps have some load management games.
00:23:31
And I think it would be smart of them, even if it cost them some wins here and there.
00:23:34
I would do it.
00:23:35
I think it's important that you keep those guys healthy on, by the way.
00:23:38
Here, Jasper, You ready for me to shock you? If you say Carmelo Anthony, I'm gonna I'm gonna end this right.
00:23:45
I'm not going to say Carmelo Anthony, But I'm gonna say this When things were going bad and the Lakers ball handlers couldn't do anything and they kept losing the ball and they kept turning it over, I was kind of missing Rajon Rondo.
00:23:58
Oh, you know what? I was actually going to tweet that during the game to that This so far is making me Miss Rondo.
00:24:05
And because again, I don't know how much longer the Troy Daniels experiment is gonna last.
00:24:09
You brought him here to be a shooter, and he's not doing that.
00:24:12
And you need somebody to get those minutes.
00:24:13
It's gonna have to be wrong.
00:24:14
No, but I think Rhonda, at this point, if he's playing 10 to 15 minutes, will actually help the team more than a guy like Troy Daniels is right now.
00:24:21
Yeah, I'm gonna agree with that.
00:24:23
I think that, you know, Troy Daniels isn't a great defender.
00:24:25
He's a better defender.
00:24:26
Rondo is.
00:24:27
But I'm a better, well, jazz.
00:24:31
Come on, let's let's not go too far here, man game, and we'll see.
00:24:41
We'll put that into the way.
00:24:46
We'll make you try to guard.
00:24:47
Matthew will make you try to guard Matt Marino, and then we'll see what happens.
00:24:51
He's our resident shooter, but look, this is the second unit, the problem dancing too much.
00:25:00
They There isn't really like a set system for them to go into.
00:25:03
And I thought they did a little bit better job between the quarters because they finally started to run.
00:25:13
We see them freelance too much, and it's not their skill set when you've got Quinn, Cook and Alex Caruso and players like that out there.
00:25:20
Dwight Howard freelancing isn't what they do.
00:25:22
What they do is they capitalize on open looks that are generated by other players, and so Cosmo was able to get some open looks by actually running some things and pick and roll some screen cuts and things like that So I think if you have a guy like Rondo out there, he he enhances your ability to actually run some things.
00:25:39
He's gonna settle things down instead of just, you know, letting the guys go and letting Alex Caruso throw up something crazy off balance or whatever. And don't get me wrong.
00:25:47
I love Crusoe, but I think that he gives a little bit of stability to that group.
00:25:51
And so that's the one positive thing that I've been looking for from Rondo.
00:25:54
I'm still not thrilled about his defensive ability.
00:25:56
I'm not sure about his shooting.
00:25:58
We'll see if he can continue that from the pre season.
00:26:00
But I do think of nothing else.
00:26:01
Rondo can help organize that second unit, and that way I think he could be useful.
00:26:05
And there were some moments out there when I was cringing watching the second unit play before they got the run going and it looked like a group that needed a veteran ball handler like Rondo.
00:26:15
Yeah, at one point, the bench is being outscored 38 19 by the Bulls going into the fourth quarter and as I mentioned on the bench guys finishing 48 so they put up 29 basically in that fourth quarter and towards the end of the end of the third when they got going and you're mentioning that, like not being settled.
00:26:29
This is where I think that having Kyle Kuzma back and easing him back because you know he's not gonna play just 20 minutes a night when he's fully healthy, you're probably looking at him clean 20 somewhere between 27 30 depending again on the matchup.
00:26:41
So I think once once who's gets a little bit more settled, your publishing and B I isolated a lot more with second unit and get those guys running around and almost like you said freelancing and try and get some backdoor cuts or lobs with Dwight or Caruso and quick cooking in the corner for open threes.
00:26:54
So I think that will help.
00:26:55
I agree with you.
00:26:56
I think they do need another primary ball handler or off the bench, and that's where Rondo is gonna come in.
00:27:00
That is a skill set.
00:27:01
I think sometimes is a little bit, hangs on the ball a little bit too long.
00:27:04
You could becomes a black hole with it.
00:27:06
But he will bring that dynamic to the team and like you mentioned, I mean, the bench has been so up and down this season, and we've ripped on him when we had to.
00:27:13
But today they were key.
00:27:14
And, like you said, it looked like they were just out there playing rappel.
00:27:17
Well, you know what? You're just you mentioned we rip on them when we have to.
00:27:20
We get you people jumping.
00:27:21
I'm I read all the comments right as I go.
00:27:23
So that's why you had seen me looking down all the time because I'm reading your comments and I'm reading What? What you guys were saying what you're throwing out there and we're using that to help kind of direct the show as we go.
00:27:33
And I see all the comments saying, Oh, you know, he's a you guys air hating on LeBron or hating on Rondo or whatever.
00:27:40
We're just trying to call things like it is right.
00:27:42
That's that's what we're doing.
00:27:43
We want these guys to be successful, and so uh, yeah, I mean, look, we're ripping on the bench for ripping on the second unit. Everything. It's not.
00:27:50
It's not that we think they're bad basketball players.
00:27:52
Not that we think that they're bad people.
00:27:53
It's just we're talking about what the Lakers need to see in order to win.
00:27:56
And I thought that tonight we finally saw in the fourth quarter the bench do the things that they needed to win and so credit to them there.
00:28:04
But then calling it like it is, they didn't live up to their potential before that.
00:28:08
So I think we're just trying to be fair here.
00:28:11
Well, this is in this type of business when the media world, especially when it comes to sports, it doesn't matter what you say or do.
00:28:17
People are either gonna like it or hate it, so I mean that just that just comes with the territory.
00:28:21
But it's interesting.
00:28:23
I mean, you're right, like nobody's really taking it to A to a personal thing with him.
00:28:26
I just think the Lakers the big key they need to find on the bench is consistency and I think when you have a fully healthy team, Rondo comes back and hopefully equal dollars in the purple and gold come time for December January, then I think that rounds out the team.
00:28:37
But right now you know Troy Daniels and these guys not not bringing anything to the table.
00:28:42
As you said, Andre Iguodala es Eladio Gloria from YouTube.
00:28:46
Uh, sent in the comment hashtag freaky.
00:28:49
A lot of people bring it up on a lot of people bringing up Roman culture from YouTube said Iggy's agent was rough.
00:28:57
Linka uh Red Cloud says Iggy will take care of Kawai.
00:29:02
No load management will help him.
00:29:03
Let the legendary choker Paul George make plays.
00:29:06
People are fired up about about taking out the Clippers.
00:29:09
Just improv.
00:29:10
Edo says You go to the Lakers for sure.
00:29:12
Yeah, People are excited about even L.
00:29:14
A.
00:29:15
But we don't know what's gonna happen with him.
00:29:16
And right now we're dealing with the players that are in front of us and, you know, credit to them.
00:29:19
Taylor Evans, from Facebook, says Hi, Luke Walton.
00:29:21
Hi, Taylor.
00:29:23
I know.
00:29:24
So, look, some people think I look like Luke Walton.
00:29:26
I got the comment the other day.
00:29:27
Was somebody saying I look like Mark Madsen and I don't know how to do just that.
00:29:31
I don't know. Howto token.
00:29:33
That's a token white guy. Wait.
00:29:34
Say that that's what they're giving you right? That's what you would look like.
00:29:37
Maybe like a baby younger version of blue balls.
00:29:40
Like be like that? You would be like the Owen Hart Thio Bret Harte there.
00:29:45
And in that case, in that scenario, the little brother.
00:29:47
But you know what? I can I can't I can't see the Mark Mattson, that Luke Walton I could see a little Owen Hart was an underrated talent.
00:29:54
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00:29:55
I heard for sure.
00:29:57
Yeah.
00:29:58
Hey, was incredible.
00:29:59
But look, this is it's funny the way the way people throw that out there.
00:30:04
Um, look, I don't know.
00:30:06
I don't know if I looked like Luke Walton or not, but, uh, I'll take it.
00:30:11
I will take it, that's for sure.
00:30:13
I will certainly accept that.
00:30:15
Uh, no.
00:30:16
Uh, no complaints from me.
00:30:17
They're, um a c from YouTube.
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I I know this is not a C Green said too many **** guards.
00:30:26
The lakersroster, they don't like the balance.
00:30:28
And that's something that Frank Vogel's been dealing with.
00:30:30
And that's part of why Cal Koosman coming back was so big was that it gives them that other wing player gives them someone else.
00:30:35
That can that can help out on the wing.
00:30:37
So important there for the Lakers to get Koosman back and in action.
00:30:43
Just anything else that you want to take away from this game before we start talking about their next game coming up, which actually I think is going to be a much more difficult one.
00:30:52
Oh, yeah, for sure.
00:30:53
The Friday game's gonna gonna be tough, but this one again.
00:30:55
You know what? You want to take it.
00:30:56
You want to look at it and look at the positive.
00:30:58
You don't want to look at that kind of what happened in the game. But look, look at the end result.
00:31:02
The team like I mentioned, it's a sign of a championship team.
00:31:05
You've seen the Warriors do this plenty of times about four or five years, where they were down 15 20 points going into the third quarter and found a way to come back and just completely, completely took over the game.
00:31:15
And that's what the Lakers the today and again, you're only seven games in your sitting at six and won.
00:31:18
And that to me, the fact that again the Lakers aren't even close to being at their peak level yet and interfering things out.
00:31:24
And once they get there, you know, they probably won't be, you know, having getting like this against Bulls, that it's close all the way through.
00:31:30
They beat them by 20 next time to play him at home at Staples Center.
00:31:33
But, you know, for me, I'm gonna look at the positives from it.
00:31:35
I think the bench coming alive, who's my having the fourth quarter that he did? I think it'll help this team kind of grow in terms of figuring things out of rotation wise, but to me again.
00:31:43
Take the positive attitude.
00:31:44
You're sitting at six and one, and you were down to an N B a Team 19 in the third quarter and still managed to come back.
00:31:49
So credit to the entire roster. Yeah, absolutely.
00:31:52
Credit to them for sticking with it.
00:31:53
Credit them for not giving up a ton of credit of LeBron James for keeping them close for all that time when the rest of the team was playing horribly again.
00:32:01
Stupid mistakes.
00:32:02
But hopefully they learned from that, and they know, Hey, we almost lost to a bad team.
00:32:06
That was what the Lakers did last season, they found ways to lose the bad teams.
00:32:09
Hopefully, this was a little bit of an eye opener for them.
00:32:12
And they don't start off slow because this next game coming up taking on the Miami Heat, who are better than people expected them to be nothing.
00:32:20
They expected to be bad, but the Miami Heat right now are five and one at the moment.
00:32:24
They are actually playing the Denver Nuggets right now and getting getting beat pretty badly.
00:32:28
Actually, it's 89 to 68.
00:32:30
Denver is up, but this is a pretty good Miami team.
00:32:34
That is gonna be a much bigger test than, say, the Grizzlies or the Bulls were banned by the bio has been tremendous.
00:32:39
Of course, they have Jimmy Butler, who is always difficult.
00:32:42
You know he's gonna be up for this game.
00:32:44
Justise Winslow can create some matchup problems with his abilities there.
00:32:47
I wouldn't be surprised to see Winslow and N Jimmy Butler defending LeBron.
00:32:52
This is a team that has some wing players that could give the Lakers some problems because we know they don't have a bunch of big wing defenders.
00:32:58
They've got some solid talents here.
00:33:01
I mean, they have Goran Dragic coming off the bench because they've got the pieces that are playing well for them.
00:33:07
So what do you want to see out of this game? I'm gonna do a full breakdown in a couple of days, but just off top your head right now.
00:33:13
What is it you're hoping to see out of this? Well, you're looking looking at the Miami squad.
00:33:17
They got seven guys that believe scoring in double figures, averaging double figures right now, which does have a lot of depth.
00:33:21
And you mentioned they got those wing guys.
00:33:23
They got guys like Tyler Hero and Kendrick Nunn playing playing real well, too.
00:33:26
So I'm interested to see how the Lakers Ventress ones again.
00:33:29
Because now you're playing against a team that has the capability of getting a whole bunch of points coming off their bench, and so are these guys gonna be able to match it? So, for me, I think it's going to be key for the Lakers and being able to kind of keep up with it with not only just the heat starters, but their second unit as well.
00:33:43
Yeah, that's gonna be really crucial for the Lakers.
00:33:46
And again, that's where Kyle Kuzma can help them out.
00:33:48
Can keep their can keep their ability.
00:33:51
Thio score.
00:33:52
Coming off the bench like that's that's important.
00:33:54
Look, the bench defense isn't gonna be as good as the starters, especially the starters when Dwight Howard is in there.
00:33:59
But if they can re score the ball in an efficient level and state even that's all you need for the Lakers bench to do is just stay even with the other team's bench.
00:34:07
If you could do that, you're gonna give yourself a great chance to win.
00:34:11
Exactly.
00:34:12
And you know what? It was funny.
00:34:13
I was looking at the stats, checking out the box score at halftime.
00:34:15
Every single Lakers bench player was in the minus like double digits.
00:34:18
You know what I mean? By the end, the obviously the flip script.
00:34:21
They're all plus players, I believe, except for Daniel's and, well, doubly only played a minute.
00:34:24
But you know, those guys and again Troy Daniels get him off the court.
00:34:27
But that's a topic for another day.
00:34:30
But I do think that's gonna be key against against the Heat because the heat have a bunch of guys that that can score their second unit is deep in.
00:34:36
They're gonna get guys who can put up 15 16 on you.
00:34:38
So, like you mentioned, the Lakers aren't losing any ground when their benches out there, they might not have to gain it, But they're not losing any than the venture is doing its job.
00:34:45
Yeah, I think it's gonna be critical that the Lakers get Avery Bradley for this game.
00:34:49
I think I think they're going to need him out there for this one because of how many scores they have.
00:34:53
If you can lock the heat down defensively and you're not gonna lock, they're not totally.
00:34:57
But if you could make things tough for them, then I think the Lakers are gonna have a much better chance to win.
00:35:01
And I like their ability to do to do that with Avery Bradley on the floor better than anybody else.
00:35:05
So I think that's gonna be critical.
00:35:06
And I also think that we could be seeing the return of Rondo with this one would make a lot of sense coming up this road trip.
00:35:12
He can get a light practice in coming up on Thursday.
00:35:16
I'd like to see that.
00:35:17
See Brando make his return in this game.
00:35:19
Not a ton of minutes for him or anything like that.
00:35:21
But I think Friday could be a nice state to look at if you're if you've been looking forward to the return of Rajon Rondo.
00:35:28
Yeah, and I know you have mentioned, but, uh, well, I've got all the posters up in my bedroom and all that.
00:35:34
So, you know, Yeah.
00:35:35
You sleep with the Rondo Rondo pillow and under you, too.
00:35:38
I mean, from what I remember, you were telling me about that, but with Rondo, you want to see him get Yeah, like you said 8 to 10 minutes and see what he could bring with the second unit.
00:35:46
Because I think, you know people.
00:35:48
And Rondo is polarizing.
00:35:49
Some people like him.
00:35:50
Some people hate him, you know.
00:35:51
That's just the nature of the beast.
00:36:06
You want to look to improve the 14 10 12 14 minutes he's gonna hopefully Rondo Rondo is the key to that right now.
00:36:12
Yeah, I think that that is what's gonna happen when Rondo comes back.
00:36:14
I think you see Daniel's minutes probably go away, especially if you can hit the three, which we did see you a bit in preseason, and Frank Vogel was raving about it during training camp as well.
00:36:23
So that's that's pretty.
00:36:25
That's gonna be pretty big for the Lakers.
00:36:27
Some people saying I don't want run, go back Some people saying Hey, Rondo his coming back, That's it.
00:36:35
In a nutshell, that is the Lakers fan based on Roger on Murano. In a nutshell.
00:36:38
There are so many people that are anti Rondo and can't stand him and think he should not be on the floor and then so many people who think Rondo is the best and he should be out there all the time.
00:36:47
So it's Ah, yeah, he's very polarizing and that's for sure.
00:36:50
It, uh, Luca chickadees said.
00:36:54
Will Bradley play on Friday? Jazz.
00:36:57
What do you think? We don't know.
00:36:59
There's no official a statement or anything like that at this point, at least, anything that we've seen unless Frank Vogel said something in the postgame that I haven't seen yet.
00:37:07
But what's your gut feeling? Does Bradley play on Friday? Uh, again, depending.
00:37:11
I mean, they're calling him day today.
00:37:13
Right now.
00:37:14
I wouldn't rush it because you're this early season.
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I don't think I think you might not play on Friday, but it might seem back for Sunday against Yeah, I think that would make some sense of it.
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Depends, fortunately, avoided.
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Serious injury. That's the important thing here.
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He's not seriously hurt.
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I think if there's any question, you hold them out because they're so early in the season, you don't wanna aggregate anything.
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But I wouldn't be surprised to see him suit up on Friday because I think he could do that.
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Yeah.
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Here we go.
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Now that we're getting ready to wrap up here.
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Jazz, Why J from from YouTube.
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Dwight resurrecting his career in L. A.

Lakers Launch Furious Comeback To Stun Bulls

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Trevor Lane @LakersNation

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Hello, everybody.
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Welcome in, What a game.
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I don't know what just happened.
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The Los Angeles Lakers were getting smoked, most for the game by the Chicago Bulls.
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Somehow, some way they flip the switch, turned up the defense and walked away with a win.
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Actually, wasn't even all that close, 1 18 to 1 12 They had a little bit of a bigger lead.
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Before that, the Lakers pull off a win in Chicago on the road where it looked like they were done, they were dead in the water.
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So impressive stuff in that regard.
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We still have some things to talk about, though.
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How they got in such a big hole of one point, it looked like the game was over.
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Looked like the Bulls had blown the mount.
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The Lakers use some defense to come back.
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We're gonna break it all down.
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We're going to talk all about it.
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The good, the bad, everything in between LeBron James. His effort.
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Dwight Howard, Alex Caruso, Captain America Tons to get in.
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To make sure you guys stick around, toss in your questions and your comments, whether you find are finding us on periscope on Facebook on YouTube wherever you're finding us, toss us your questions.
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Your comments were going to be responding to them.
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As always.
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I'm joined by Jazz King.
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My name's Trevor Lane here for Lakers Nation.
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Jess, how you doing, man? You were telling me before we came on the air, you kept the faith.
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I wish I could say it was the same.
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But you kept the faith throughout this game.
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You thought the Lakers were gonna pull this thing off? Yeah.
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Did you know what? Because it was.
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It was a matter of dumb mistakes they were making on their own.
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That was that was costing them the opportunity to win the game, especially for those 1st 3/4 And as I was watching it, I'm like, You know what? If they start clamping down a bit defensively and put a little bit more effort and get the energy up, which I thought LeBron had energy all night and cat kind of kept the team afloat and I felt like the Bulls are such a bad team that they will be able to come back.
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And what we saw there was the fact that the Lakers ended up kind of and this is.
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Ah, Mark and I don't want to say there's this early in the season.
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I know people are gonna be like, you're jumping the gun here, but you're sitting at six and one championship teams do that.
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Would they have done this against a team like the six years of the Clippers? Probably not.
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They would have been down by 25 out of the game.
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But when you're playing against a team like the Bulls, you don't have your energy like that and you're still able to pull out a win.
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Just like completely killer come in the fourth quarter.
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I think this is the mark of a very good team.
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Yeah.
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I mean, look, what was the fourth quarter final tally? 38 to 19? The Lakers went on a 38 10 18 run in the fourth quarter.
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Absolute absolute dominance in the fourth quarter.
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Just It was like they suddenly just went okay.
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Now we feel like playing, and it wasn't even.
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Here's the amazing thing to me, Jess.
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It wasn't even LeBron or 80 that really got the run going, going. It was the bench.
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It was the bench that had looked terrible for most of the game. They looked awful.
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The Bulls guards were pressuring them, forcing turnovers.
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And then suddenly the bench just clicked.
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Cow Kuzma Big credit to him.
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He turned it up in the fourth quarter.
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And then here you go.
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Next thing you know, the Lakers were on a run and they pull off the win.
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Yeah, that was I actually tweeted that, too, that you know what the Lakers bench was.
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What's the difference tonight on? You know, LeBron James had it going.
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Anthony Davis obviously clearly did not his worst game of the season so far.
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But you look at it like, once, who's my God going? And we've talked about how important Cruz is gonna be for this team.
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Like if he's able to bring that energy off the bench.
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And you got Quinn Cook chipping in 17 points.
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Lakersbench combined for 48 tonight.
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That's the most all season, and we've been critical of it to save this team, you know, it needs to have depth, and it needs to have different guys step up all the time.
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And today was Quinn Cook.
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Kyle Kuzma.
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We're expecting to do that night in, night, out. But man.
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Yeah, the bench was so key for this team being able to win this game.
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And it was really the defensive effort to once.
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Once a Laker started challenging, more shots, rotating faster, getting out on the shooter's.
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The Bulls didn't know what the hell to do.
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And the Bulls are such a bad team that they allow them to come all the way back.
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I'm still in shock that they that they ended up doing that, too.
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But I mean, still, we're looking at a credit, completely goes to two guys like Ooze and Quinn cook off the bench.
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Yeah, those were two of the big players there.
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You know what? People were really frustrated.
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I saw this online. People were super frustrated.
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Kahuku asthma.
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In fact, I had texted you.
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I told you that we were gonna get a bunch of negative coups Mahat takes tonight that that's what was what we were gonna be dealing with on tonight show.
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That was what was gonna happen.
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And now I'm not sure we're still gonna get some, but I'm so glad that we saw Kyle Kuzma get going because it's it's been coming right? The rust has been slowly being broken off, right.
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He's been getting back into the flow, and now cruise mode just explodes into the fourth quarter.
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He was incredible, hit some big, tough shots, which is exactly exactly what the bench unit has needed.
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They needed that guy that could win.
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When things get bogged down, just take the ball and put it in the **** basket.
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And that was Kyle Kuzma tonight in the fourth quarter.
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Hopefully, we see more of that from him moving forward.
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Well, I think that's that really is the key.
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Trevor, like you're looking at, what? What? Koosman and bringing him up.
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There was a point, I think.
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The team was down 80 to 67 the Lakers were down and Koosman had the ball and he was about 34 feet behind.
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The three point line.
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Chucked it up, went short, and at that point I was like, Why is he forcing it so much? You know what I mean? It was what? Yeah, and that's why I was like, just let Wei saw that with Caruso in the preseason points where forcing things to happen and again, it's a bit of a cliche, but it's the truth.
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You're not.
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You're not gonna be shooting 34 feet behind the three point line.
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You're not Steph Curry, you know, especially coming back like that.
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And then we saw a Kuzma started going to the hole and getting easy lay ups, and some of them were tough and contested.
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And that started opening up his game a little bit more to so again, I think he's gonna get some timeto practice here, get get his conditioning a little bit better.
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But, man, we've talked about this a lot in the preseason.
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Is Kyle Kuzma is essential to the Lakers success? The element that he brings off the bench is sorely missed, and the Lakers got away with it cause they played some bad teams.
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You know that stretch? There were teams like Memphis and and Charlotte, but against a good team, you're gonna need cruise to do this night in a night out.
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Yeah, I guess that's let's talk about that real quick.
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The good team versus bad team thing here.
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If they were playing a good team, this isn't possible.
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So are you worried at all about them falling into this habit while they're playing bad? teams of thinking they can just flip the switch and go.
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I mean, they waited.
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If that was what they were doing, if they were kind of playing possible, I don't think that waas But if they were just kind of coasting along thinking, Hey, we can flip the switch whenever and you wait until the end of the third quarter beginning of the fourth quarter to put your foot down on the gas pedal.
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To me, that's a little bit of a concern.
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I don't think that's what was going on.
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But are you worried at all and then becoming overconfident about their own ability to launch these furious comeback? So we've been C? No, honestly, I'm not at all.
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And the reason why I'm saying that is because the Lakers are still learning how to play with each other as well, so they're not at their best.
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We haven't seen them play a complete 48 minute game where they were on from from tip off to the end of the game.
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And what you've seen from the Lakers is it stretches and spurts, right? They've done it a couple times where they had a dominant third quarter against teams like Memphis and and Charlotte and kind of pulled away then.
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But now what you're seeing is okay.
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They were terrible.
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Just call a spade a state.
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I'm like I was like in the 1st 1st record was brutal basketball to watch.
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The Bulls are J V Squad, in my opinion, and you're making him and the Bulls were just basically trying to hand it to him to the Lakers on a silver platter said, Here, take it.
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You know what I mean? It.
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And so when I was watching this, that thing I'm taking from it is the Lakers only seven games in with this roster, and they they don't know each other as well, so I'm not worried about them taking it easy.
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I think they're still figuring things out and again.
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I said that last time.
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That's a scary thought for the rest of the N B A.
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That you're sitting at six and one on, and really, you haven't even started scratching the surface.
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And in terms of getting chemistry down, get the rotations down.
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So you know me.
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I'm not concerned about that at this point.
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And with LeBron and Anthony Davis on your team.
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I don't think you're gonna have a lot of nights because Oh, yeah.
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I mean, we saw we saw LeBron put the team on his back and keep them closed pretty much on his own.
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He was the only one and that it almost It kind of made me upset for a little while there because LeBron was the only one hustling.
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LeBron was the only one putting in the extra effort, closing what I saw.
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I saw Lazy close out from Lakers Lakers players.
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I saw four by four box out.
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I saw lazy passing a number of times where they just telegraphed passes.
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It was ugly.
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It was a comedy of errors.
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It was everything that you don't want to see out of a team.
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And then it was like they suddenly just said, Oh, yeah, we know how to play basketball.
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And they and they got going.
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LeBron, though to his credit, did he dragged this team along to keep this game close.
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And so, you know, you have to throw plenty of credit.
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LeBron James, because when the rest of the team was letting down, he was still out there hustling and he refused refused to let them give in.
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And so again, big credit like we're gonna focus here on, we're going to say, Hey, Kyle Kuzma helped in the fourth, and Alex Caruso hit big shots and Quinn, Cook and all of these things that LeBron through some fancy passes in the fourth. Think about.
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Don't lose sight of what LeBron did over the previous 3/4 to keep this team at least within striking distance.
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Because without him, this is a blowout, and the Lakers aren't coming anywhere close to coming back.
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Oh, yeah, for sure.
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I remember the first couple of games people were questioning.
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If LeBron still has it, and if he's, you know not, why isn't he playing? It's hard like what is his third straight triple double? Insulin out three points.
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11 times 10 board.
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And there was one play I remember happened in the third quarter, where the Lakers were still, you know in that 10 to 15 point range, and they were they were getting close and that it makes him dumb plays.
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But defensively LeBron was guarding market in the post and he just locked him down and he didn't do anything.
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Market and had to pass it out.
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Then he went out and took a contested three that LeBron got out onto.
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So when you're seeing that to me, yeah, LeBron set the energy.
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LeBron bought everything.
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And that's what leaders do.
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And he actually like you said he kept the team in this because without him in the 1st 3/4 the Lakers are probably down 30 after three without LeBron playing the way he was. He was tonight.
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Oh, easily, yeah, no, no question.
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LeBron was that driving engine.
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He was that force that was keeping them close.
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And then finally, finally, everybody else picked it up.
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Let's talk about some of the stats here.
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How the things finished up.
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You mentioned LeBron triple double 10 of 19 shooting, eight of nine from the line.
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Yes, that free throw shooting is getting better.
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Last season we were we were toiling away at the free throw line with LeBron.
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It was not pretty.
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Eight of nine tonight, 10 boards, 11 assists, leading the league in assists right now, two steals, one block, 30 points.
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Anthony Davis a night to forget.
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Six of 15 shooting, one of two from 37 boards, three assists.
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One steal, three blocks, 15 points.
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He did some nice things on the defensive end.
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Some chase down block shots like that.
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So I'm probably overstating things when I say a night to forget.
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It's just not the night that he would have wanted coming home to Chicago, but the other guys that stood out.
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Kyle Kuzma, seven of 16 is a great one of eight from three, isn't great, but in the end, 15 points.
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Four boards.
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He finally got things going.
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That fourth quarter was extremely promising.
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17 points from my Boy Quinn Cook.
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Six of nine shooting from the field, which is nice.
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Four boards, two assists, one steal, one block.
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Big performance from him.
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I loved what we saw from Alex Caruso on the defensive end.
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The counting stats were just kind of have to steal.
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Seven points.
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Three boards.
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Two of eight shooting, one of four from three on Dwight Howard.
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Dwight had like like Dwight Howard, his stat line.
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You look at it and you go, Oh, he didn't do anything right.
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Three of four shooting.
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Six boards, one block.
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Six points.
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Like if he's on your fantasy team, you're not pleased with you were blown away by the activity level you saw from Dwight and how much he impacted the game again.
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This is another great performance from Dwight Howard.
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There were a number of guys who finally stepped up at the end and made an impact.
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So credit to the guys who did.
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And ah much needed this win because we've been talking about it.
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They need to pile as many wins on the record right now as they can.
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Yeah, I had had the record.
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Now you have this 20 game stretch that you're playing against really inferior teams.
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And I mean, there are gonna be some playoff bubble teams that will be there, but no championship contender ones.
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And you mentioned Koosman.
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Look, if you look at this shot chart, everything he missed was basically outside.
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He missed a couple from just outside the paint, but when he was scoring, it's when he's getting to the hoop and he was able to do that.
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That happened on Lee in the fourth quarter and that was the thing with the team started getting going and you mentioned White.
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I mean, I thought he was just okay through the first three and in the fourth quarter he was awesome. And you saw that.
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You know, the rebound off the coups and one free throw that one back in a huge right, and that's where he was.
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That's where he's, uh, he's gonna have to do that for a little bit more consistently throughout the game.
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But, man, I said this before to the bench was huge today, and that all happened with 80 and LeBron sitting there getting some rest.
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So and the Lakers are gonna need this, and you hope to see it when they play against championship teams again.
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A team with aspiration, like the Nuggets that they play.
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I believe it's December 2nd s, so it'll be interesting.
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I mean, you know, again, it was in the narrative from this game change from Oh, man, that is brutal, too.
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Well, that's that was not a very good game.
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But, you know, we're championship contender, able to come back from 19 points down against any team in the N.
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B.
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Especially on the road is something to be proud of, you know? Yeah, absolutely.
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Yeah.
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I mean, look, the Chicago Bulls are not a good team.
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They're not a good basketball team. They just they aren't.
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We know that.
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But the fact that that the Lakers were able to come back against that they're still in N B A team.
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Okay, right? I mean, like Anthony Davis flowing up against the Grizzlies bad team, but still in N b A team.
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So you have to give them credit for pulling that off.
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Because n BA teams play with pride, they usually are not going to make major mistakes.
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They're not gonna just hand it to you.
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I don't think the Bulls handed this to the Lakers.
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I thought the Lakers handed it to the Bulls in the early going by just making stupid mistakes.
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But then the Lakers put the clamps on the Bulls, and then they made them feel the pressure.
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That was that was really impressive.
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I do want to dive into some of our comments coming in here.
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We've got a ton of comments jumping in here, and, uh, they're I mean, look, people are somebody with the user name Mello.
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We've got to bring him up.
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Oh, no, no, no.
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But but he said we want Let's celebrate.
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Uh, I've got one person. Edward has said.
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It's Casey piece fault that we almost lost.
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And then another person.
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I just lost it here.
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KCP did a great job, did okay on offense and did a nice job defensively.
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KCP the the most.
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I don't know if I would say most hated Hate's a strong word, but they really, really, really don't like him, I guess you know, that's where Okay of the laters, right for Lakers fans right now.
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That's how Lakers trains are feeling about KCP.
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What did you think of his performance? Because I know there were a lot of moans and groans when it was announced that KCP was going to start in the place of the injured Avery Bradley.
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Well, to be honest with you, and I think this is where this is, where you mentioned it to, like Casey, you guys and he has an MBA player, right? And I think for some of these guys, you don't want to notice him be that bad.
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And I think that's what it was for KCP.
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He was just on the court today.
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Did his thing contributed 21 minutes.
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He had eight points in that time when three of seven shooting But, you know, for me, I'm looking at it like you playing a lot better than he did those 1st 2 games.
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And now for me, one of the guys who's starting to get into the KCP Zone is Troy Daniels.
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I have not like what I've seen offensively.
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Especially you're supposed to be a three point specialist. Just struggling.
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Other that Utah game again.
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Something for 24 on the season right now, if you were if you remove that game from it.
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So, uh, for me, Casey, I think you went with the measure as your starter.
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Because of defensive defensively, the team has been pretty good with him on the court, so I could see what you want to go with them again for me.
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I didn't notice him, and I didn't for a good reason or a bad reason.
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So to me, I think you did okay, which is exactly what you want.
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That's what KCP is.
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We've talked about this.
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He is not as bad as what we saw to start the season.
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He is not that guy.
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He's look, he could have had bad stretches.
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But overall, if you if you pan back and you look at the entirety of his career, he is an average eh? NBA player.
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That's what we saw tonight.
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You signed an average NBA shooting guard.
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Go out there, you some anything like that.
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But he's serviceable, and that's just that's where you have to set the bar like look, of its LeBron It.
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He goes out.
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But for KCP, it's a different.
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It's a different standard if he plays in okay tonight.
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So I have no problems with the performance that we saw from him.
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And I don't think there's any reason to throw shade at Casey piercing.
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He didn't he didn't find He did exactly what you would hope to see from him.
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Um, Andrew Davis, from Facebook, said, I like D 39.
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I guess we're going with the 39 for Dwight Howard.
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His passion this year.
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He is a difference maker on the defensive end.
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Yeah, how about that? Look, a few kind of touch fouls and things like that, but a credit to him for continuing to go up and challenge shots, and then he's the guy that's firing everybody up.
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He's crashing over Kobe.
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What, after he blocks his shot, he's flexing of the crowd, which became more and more pro Lakers.
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As name went on, it was almost like it was like Rocky four, when he's winning over the Soviet crowd when he's fighting Ivan Drago.
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The crowd in Chicago was very quickly switching to the to the Lakers, and Dwight was was pumping them up.
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He has become not just not just the leader of the defensive end, our leader with his play on the floor, but he's been an emotional leader as well.
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And I'm I'm still just blown away by what we're seeing out of this guy.
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Yeah, I'm in.
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I'm in the same boat as you and as that commenter said, I think it comes from him being relaxed and having fun and, you know, it just seemed like even with this stops and me, we didn't see him too much last season with the injury.
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But you know, when he was in Charlotte and he's playing in these places, it looked like he was just there and he was running through the motions and right now it's like there's no pressure on him, nobody expecting Dwight Howard to be an awful start.
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Nobody's expecting him to play at A M V P level.
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You did for much of the beginning of his career with Orlando.
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And when you what you're seeing from you now is you know, I got LeBron and 80 on my team, it's their squad.
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I just got to come out and have fun.
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Nobody's gonna be coming up to me after the game and have 50 microphones in my face asking me questions about it, because that's not my job on this team anymore.
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So I think with him, he finally accepted the fact that, okay, I might not be the same player that I was 10 years ago in again.
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I always say this big men age much differently than 10 guards doing so.
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It's not surprising and with the injuries that he's had.
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But now he's in a position where men you're gonna play 25 30 minutes a night, depending on the matchup and how you're doing.
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And all you gotta do is come out there, get some offensive rebounds, gets an easy put back dunks and Bloxham shots, and that's exactly what he's doing.
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Yeah, actually, absolutely.
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He's being a star in his role and and you gotta love seeing that out of Dwight Howard and just the energy enthusiasm that he's brought.
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There's pressure on him to keep his career going, so he certainly has that.
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I mean, he's got that kind of keeping him in check.
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Keeping motivated keep him going.
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But a CZ first pressure to actually lead a team.
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He doesn't have to do that.
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He just has to focus on doing the little things well.
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And if he does that, he's going to be successful and the team is going to be successful as a result.
00:17:48
So you gotta like the way that's worked out for Dwight Howard.
00:17:52
I do want to dive into a few more of these comments, but you know, one of the things that I really hope is that the Lakers do pay attention to the game plan a little bit more.
00:18:01
Just you and I were talking about this ahead of time.
00:18:03
I do a three keys for the Lakers to win their next game before every single game.
00:18:07
So one of my three keys for this game was that look, the only path that the Bulls have to make even making this close is to force the Lakers to turn the ball over.
00:18:15
Their offense is not good.
00:18:17
They score a lot of points in the paint, but that's only because they do that off of turnovers.
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They're really good at getting turnovers and getting the ball out in transition.
00:18:24
If you force them to play half court basketball, there's no chance the Lakers will win the game and they will steamroll them.
00:18:30
The Lakers coat.
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If I am recognizing this, the Lakers coaching staff is certainly recognizing this, and they're telling them, executed exactly what the Bulls want wanted them to do.
00:18:41
They fell right into every mistake that Bulls were hoping that they would, that they would.
00:18:46
So I hope that something that improves as we go along here for the Lakers, I hope that they can execute their game plan from beginning to end instead of just okay, We're gonna get kind of get things going in the fourth quarter.
00:18:57
Yeah, exactly, you know, But this is one of those things where I would've probably said that.
00:19:03
Have they lost where it's like, OK, this with the games, you just throw out the window, you know what I'm saying? Like it was ugly performance on.
00:19:09
You were right.
00:19:10
You know, bad teams are going to stay in it against you.
00:19:12
If you're turning the ball over, that's just that's a giving it.
00:19:14
It happens in every endgame.
00:19:15
If a team turned the ball over 25 30 times, you know chances are they're still going to lose.
00:19:20
And the Lakers were just.
00:19:21
They were sloppy, and the game plan pretty much had to go out the window at a certain point because it was like they're not executing anything coming into the game.
00:19:28
And you saw that with the turnover.
00:19:29
You saw that with the lack of effort defensively, not not getting out of the shooter's.
00:19:33
The Bulls are on fire from the three point line, especially early in the in the game.
00:19:37
And so what happened there is they kind of had to get away from that.
00:19:39
And then this is one of those games where you gotta find a way to win and in regardless of it's not.
00:19:43
You're not rolling Anthony Davis at an off night.
00:19:45
In terms of offensively, you're trying to find the right combination of who's gonna be out there so and again, you know what a lot of people were pending the decision in the beginning.
00:19:54
But give some credit to Frank Bobo.
00:19:55
He's made the right calls and push the right buttons at the right time.
00:19:58
And you did that today, leaving those guys in there and said, Our Who's Dwight Howard Quinn Cook? You guys were playing while do your thing.
00:20:04
And then when it's time to we, can we maybe give LeBron an extra minute? Are, you know, two minutes of rest? So I think that was huge in this one as well. Yeah, absolutely.
00:20:11
Getting them that extra time.
00:20:12
And then what? Once the momentum was in their favor and they don't have to do all that heavy lifting yourself, LeBron plate with a little bit less of that kind of Oh, man, I have to go, Squirrel.
00:20:23
The time to that fun.
00:20:25
I'm gonna pass the ball around his one pass out to Quinn Cook.
00:20:29
By the way, no one saw that.
00:20:31
That was not incredibly through that pass.
00:20:36
I went Oh, my gosh.
00:20:37
Like I didn't even realize Quinn Cook was over in that quarter.
00:20:39
I was Quinn cook, all in the money, and he drains the three.
00:20:49
I mean, that that is unreal to see something somebody pass at that ball.
00:20:54
Oh, yeah, he's he He's been great, though the whole season.
00:20:56
And you know what? People are talking about it, you know, coming in saying, you know, maybe he's not the best player in the world.
00:21:02
Maybe he is.
00:21:03
And maybe Kawai is taking his spot.
00:21:04
I saw Shannon should tweet about that today.
00:21:06
It's like No, LeBron is.
00:21:07
Still, It's still the most important player in the N B A.
00:21:10
On his team because if he's on your slot, you have.
00:21:12
You have championship expectations.
00:21:14
And right now, with the way this team is starting to find its groove and Frank Vogel is gonna get some more time with Koosman, Alan Practice and they're gonna figure things.
00:21:21
Excuses.
00:21:22
Conditioning gets better.
00:21:23
I think you're going to see LeBron keep having these performances because there's no today was 10 of 19.
00:21:28
That's pretty **** efficient.
00:21:30
Just, you know, take that.
00:21:32
Yeah, and he was two of six from the three point line.
00:21:34
But I love the fact when he's getting to the rim and not settling for jumpers that pull up mid range.
00:21:47
You see him? Why did I mention that play he was guarding. Marketing.
00:21:50
If you bring in that defensive level, two men, he's going running for M v P.
00:21:54
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
00:21:55
He could very well find himself especially.
00:21:57
He's leading the league in assists at the King Butter on YouTube, said the bronze minutes Last three games, and I haven't been verified this, but 43 37 37.
00:22:07
I think that's too many.
00:22:08
I'm assuming That's why he was post thing, that.
00:22:11
What do you think the Lakers do? You want to cut down on those? They kind of had to play him a bunch tonight.
00:22:15
But what can you do if you're the Lakers to load advantage liberal on a little bit more? Because what we're kind of seeing is the opposite of lewd managed? Well, he's averaging 35 tonight as well, so I mean, it's right right in what he's kind of been trying that that game with the Mavs went to went to overtime.
00:22:33
So naturally I did get some more minutes there.
00:22:35
But what do they have to do not be so crappy for the 1st 2 quarters when you're when you're when you're playing playing basketball for 4/4.
00:22:43
Exactly. That's gonna be on the rest of these guys.
00:22:45
I mean, it's interesting because we talked about this at the end of the last show, right? We're like, Well, what we want to see is the Lakers come in 25 going into the fourth and let LeBron and 80 and these guys get some rest.
00:22:57
And that's what I have to do against these bad teams.
00:22:59
And we mentioned it this early in the season where you got a favorable schedule, take advantage of it that seat in these teams and beat him to a pulp.
00:23:05
So that way you can rest your guy.
00:23:07
So I think that's gonna be Q's putting together like we mentioned the entire 48 minute game, which we haven't seen the Lakers do yet.
00:23:12
Yet.
00:23:13
They're still six and one.
00:23:14
You know, I think that when Rondo comes back and with Kuzma back, we're going to see some load management games for the Lakers.
00:23:19
I think they couldn't do.
00:23:20
They can't do it right now without Koosman without Rondo to kind of run the show.
00:23:25
But I think that now it once they get run, go back.
00:23:27
I think they're in position to perhaps have some load management games.
00:23:31
And I think it would be smart of them, even if it cost them some wins here and there.
00:23:34
I would do it.
00:23:35
I think it's important that you keep those guys healthy on, by the way.
00:23:38
Here, Jasper, You ready for me to shock you? If you say Carmelo Anthony, I'm gonna I'm gonna end this right.
00:23:45
I'm not going to say Carmelo Anthony, But I'm gonna say this When things were going bad and the Lakers ball handlers couldn't do anything and they kept losing the ball and they kept turning it over, I was kind of missing Rajon Rondo.
00:23:58
Oh, you know what? I was actually going to tweet that during the game to that This so far is making me Miss Rondo.
00:24:05
And because again, I don't know how much longer the Troy Daniels experiment is gonna last.
00:24:09
You brought him here to be a shooter, and he's not doing that.
00:24:12
And you need somebody to get those minutes.
00:24:13
It's gonna have to be wrong.
00:24:14
No, but I think Rhonda, at this point, if he's playing 10 to 15 minutes, will actually help the team more than a guy like Troy Daniels is right now.
00:24:21
Yeah, I'm gonna agree with that.
00:24:23
I think that, you know, Troy Daniels isn't a great defender.
00:24:25
He's a better defender.
00:24:26
Rondo is.
00:24:27
But I'm a better, well, jazz.
00:24:31
Come on, let's let's not go too far here, man game, and we'll see.
00:24:41
We'll put that into the way.
00:24:46
We'll make you try to guard.
00:24:47
Matthew will make you try to guard Matt Marino, and then we'll see what happens.
00:24:51
He's our resident shooter, but look, this is the second unit, the problem dancing too much.
00:25:00
They There isn't really like a set system for them to go into.
00:25:03
And I thought they did a little bit better job between the quarters because they finally started to run.
00:25:13
We see them freelance too much, and it's not their skill set when you've got Quinn, Cook and Alex Caruso and players like that out there.
00:25:20
Dwight Howard freelancing isn't what they do.
00:25:22
What they do is they capitalize on open looks that are generated by other players, and so Cosmo was able to get some open looks by actually running some things and pick and roll some screen cuts and things like that So I think if you have a guy like Rondo out there, he he enhances your ability to actually run some things.
00:25:39
He's gonna settle things down instead of just, you know, letting the guys go and letting Alex Caruso throw up something crazy off balance or whatever. And don't get me wrong.
00:25:47
I love Crusoe, but I think that he gives a little bit of stability to that group.
00:25:51
And so that's the one positive thing that I've been looking for from Rondo.
00:25:54
I'm still not thrilled about his defensive ability.
00:25:56
I'm not sure about his shooting.
00:25:58
We'll see if he can continue that from the pre season.
00:26:00
But I do think of nothing else.
00:26:01
Rondo can help organize that second unit, and that way I think he could be useful.
00:26:05
And there were some moments out there when I was cringing watching the second unit play before they got the run going and it looked like a group that needed a veteran ball handler like Rondo.
00:26:15
Yeah, at one point, the bench is being outscored 38 19 by the Bulls going into the fourth quarter and as I mentioned on the bench guys finishing 48 so they put up 29 basically in that fourth quarter and towards the end of the end of the third when they got going and you're mentioning that, like not being settled.
00:26:29
This is where I think that having Kyle Kuzma back and easing him back because you know he's not gonna play just 20 minutes a night when he's fully healthy, you're probably looking at him clean 20 somewhere between 27 30 depending again on the matchup.
00:26:41
So I think once once who's gets a little bit more settled, your publishing and B I isolated a lot more with second unit and get those guys running around and almost like you said freelancing and try and get some backdoor cuts or lobs with Dwight or Caruso and quick cooking in the corner for open threes.
00:26:54
So I think that will help.
00:26:55
I agree with you.
00:26:56
I think they do need another primary ball handler or off the bench, and that's where Rondo is gonna come in.
00:27:00
That is a skill set.
00:27:01
I think sometimes is a little bit, hangs on the ball a little bit too long.
00:27:04
You could becomes a black hole with it.
00:27:06
But he will bring that dynamic to the team and like you mentioned, I mean, the bench has been so up and down this season, and we've ripped on him when we had to.
00:27:13
But today they were key.
00:27:14
And, like you said, it looked like they were just out there playing rappel.
00:27:17
Well, you know what? You're just you mentioned we rip on them when we have to.
00:27:20
We get you people jumping.
00:27:21
I'm I read all the comments right as I go.
00:27:23
So that's why you had seen me looking down all the time because I'm reading your comments and I'm reading What? What you guys were saying what you're throwing out there and we're using that to help kind of direct the show as we go.
00:27:33
And I see all the comments saying, Oh, you know, he's a you guys air hating on LeBron or hating on Rondo or whatever.
00:27:40
We're just trying to call things like it is right.
00:27:42
That's that's what we're doing.
00:27:43
We want these guys to be successful, and so uh, yeah, I mean, look, we're ripping on the bench for ripping on the second unit. Everything. It's not.
00:27:50
It's not that we think they're bad basketball players.
00:27:52
Not that we think that they're bad people.
00:27:53
It's just we're talking about what the Lakers need to see in order to win.
00:27:56
And I thought that tonight we finally saw in the fourth quarter the bench do the things that they needed to win and so credit to them there.
00:28:04
But then calling it like it is, they didn't live up to their potential before that.
00:28:08
So I think we're just trying to be fair here.
00:28:11
Well, this is in this type of business when the media world, especially when it comes to sports, it doesn't matter what you say or do.
00:28:17
People are either gonna like it or hate it, so I mean that just that just comes with the territory.
00:28:21
But it's interesting.
00:28:23
I mean, you're right, like nobody's really taking it to A to a personal thing with him.
00:28:26
I just think the Lakers the big key they need to find on the bench is consistency and I think when you have a fully healthy team, Rondo comes back and hopefully equal dollars in the purple and gold come time for December January, then I think that rounds out the team.
00:28:37
But right now you know Troy Daniels and these guys not not bringing anything to the table.
00:28:42
As you said, Andre Iguodala es Eladio Gloria from YouTube.
00:28:46
Uh, sent in the comment hashtag freaky.
00:28:49
A lot of people bring it up on a lot of people bringing up Roman culture from YouTube said Iggy's agent was rough.
00:28:57
Linka uh Red Cloud says Iggy will take care of Kawai.
00:29:02
No load management will help him.
00:29:03
Let the legendary choker Paul George make plays.
00:29:06
People are fired up about about taking out the Clippers.
00:29:09
Just improv.
00:29:10
Edo says You go to the Lakers for sure.
00:29:12
Yeah, People are excited about even L.
00:29:14
A.
00:29:15
But we don't know what's gonna happen with him.
00:29:16
And right now we're dealing with the players that are in front of us and, you know, credit to them.
00:29:19
Taylor Evans, from Facebook, says Hi, Luke Walton.
00:29:21
Hi, Taylor.
00:29:23
I know.
00:29:24
So, look, some people think I look like Luke Walton.
00:29:26
I got the comment the other day.
00:29:27
Was somebody saying I look like Mark Madsen and I don't know how to do just that.
00:29:31
I don't know. Howto token.
00:29:33
That's a token white guy. Wait.
00:29:34
Say that that's what they're giving you right? That's what you would look like.
00:29:37
Maybe like a baby younger version of blue balls.
00:29:40
Like be like that? You would be like the Owen Hart Thio Bret Harte there.
00:29:45
And in that case, in that scenario, the little brother.
00:29:47
But you know what? I can I can't I can't see the Mark Mattson, that Luke Walton I could see a little Owen Hart was an underrated talent.
00:29:54
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00:29:55
I heard for sure.
00:29:57
Yeah.
00:29:58
Hey, was incredible.
00:29:59
But look, this is it's funny the way the way people throw that out there.
00:30:04
Um, look, I don't know.
00:30:06
I don't know if I looked like Luke Walton or not, but, uh, I'll take it.
00:30:11
I will take it, that's for sure.
00:30:13
I will certainly accept that.
00:30:15
Uh, no.
00:30:16
Uh, no complaints from me.
00:30:17
They're, um a c from YouTube.
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I I know this is not a C Green said too many **** guards.
00:30:26
The lakersroster, they don't like the balance.
00:30:28
And that's something that Frank Vogel's been dealing with.
00:30:30
And that's part of why Cal Koosman coming back was so big was that it gives them that other wing player gives them someone else.
00:30:35
That can that can help out on the wing.
00:30:37
So important there for the Lakers to get Koosman back and in action.
00:30:43
Just anything else that you want to take away from this game before we start talking about their next game coming up, which actually I think is going to be a much more difficult one.
00:30:52
Oh, yeah, for sure.
00:30:53
The Friday game's gonna gonna be tough, but this one again.
00:30:55
You know what? You want to take it.
00:30:56
You want to look at it and look at the positive.
00:30:58
You don't want to look at that kind of what happened in the game. But look, look at the end result.
00:31:02
The team like I mentioned, it's a sign of a championship team.
00:31:05
You've seen the Warriors do this plenty of times about four or five years, where they were down 15 20 points going into the third quarter and found a way to come back and just completely, completely took over the game.
00:31:15
And that's what the Lakers the today and again, you're only seven games in your sitting at six and won.
00:31:18
And that to me, the fact that again the Lakers aren't even close to being at their peak level yet and interfering things out.
00:31:24
And once they get there, you know, they probably won't be, you know, having getting like this against Bulls, that it's close all the way through.
00:31:30
They beat them by 20 next time to play him at home at Staples Center.
00:31:33
But, you know, for me, I'm gonna look at the positives from it.
00:31:35
I think the bench coming alive, who's my having the fourth quarter that he did? I think it'll help this team kind of grow in terms of figuring things out of rotation wise, but to me again.
00:31:43
Take the positive attitude.
00:31:44
You're sitting at six and one, and you were down to an N B a Team 19 in the third quarter and still managed to come back.
00:31:49
So credit to the entire roster. Yeah, absolutely.
00:31:52
Credit to them for sticking with it.
00:31:53
Credit them for not giving up a ton of credit of LeBron James for keeping them close for all that time when the rest of the team was playing horribly again.
00:32:01
Stupid mistakes.
00:32:02
But hopefully they learned from that, and they know, Hey, we almost lost to a bad team.
00:32:06
That was what the Lakers did last season, they found ways to lose the bad teams.
00:32:09
Hopefully, this was a little bit of an eye opener for them.
00:32:12
And they don't start off slow because this next game coming up taking on the Miami Heat, who are better than people expected them to be nothing.
00:32:20
They expected to be bad, but the Miami Heat right now are five and one at the moment.
00:32:24
They are actually playing the Denver Nuggets right now and getting getting beat pretty badly.
00:32:28
Actually, it's 89 to 68.
00:32:30
Denver is up, but this is a pretty good Miami team.
00:32:34
That is gonna be a much bigger test than, say, the Grizzlies or the Bulls were banned by the bio has been tremendous.
00:32:39
Of course, they have Jimmy Butler, who is always difficult.
00:32:42
You know he's gonna be up for this game.
00:32:44
Justise Winslow can create some matchup problems with his abilities there.
00:32:47
I wouldn't be surprised to see Winslow and N Jimmy Butler defending LeBron.
00:32:52
This is a team that has some wing players that could give the Lakers some problems because we know they don't have a bunch of big wing defenders.
00:32:58
They've got some solid talents here.
00:33:01
I mean, they have Goran Dragic coming off the bench because they've got the pieces that are playing well for them.
00:33:07
So what do you want to see out of this game? I'm gonna do a full breakdown in a couple of days, but just off top your head right now.
00:33:13
What is it you're hoping to see out of this? Well, you're looking looking at the Miami squad.
00:33:17
They got seven guys that believe scoring in double figures, averaging double figures right now, which does have a lot of depth.
00:33:21
And you mentioned they got those wing guys.
00:33:23
They got guys like Tyler Hero and Kendrick Nunn playing playing real well, too.
00:33:26
So I'm interested to see how the Lakers Ventress ones again.
00:33:29
Because now you're playing against a team that has the capability of getting a whole bunch of points coming off their bench, and so are these guys gonna be able to match it? So, for me, I think it's going to be key for the Lakers and being able to kind of keep up with it with not only just the heat starters, but their second unit as well.
00:33:43
Yeah, that's gonna be really crucial for the Lakers.
00:33:46
And again, that's where Kyle Kuzma can help them out.
00:33:48
Can keep their can keep their ability.
00:33:51
Thio score.
00:33:52
Coming off the bench like that's that's important.
00:33:54
Look, the bench defense isn't gonna be as good as the starters, especially the starters when Dwight Howard is in there.
00:33:59
But if they can re score the ball in an efficient level and state even that's all you need for the Lakers bench to do is just stay even with the other team's bench.
00:34:07
If you could do that, you're gonna give yourself a great chance to win.
00:34:11
Exactly.
00:34:12
And you know what? It was funny.
00:34:13
I was looking at the stats, checking out the box score at halftime.
00:34:15
Every single Lakers bench player was in the minus like double digits.
00:34:18
You know what I mean? By the end, the obviously the flip script.
00:34:21
They're all plus players, I believe, except for Daniel's and, well, doubly only played a minute.
00:34:24
But you know, those guys and again Troy Daniels get him off the court.
00:34:27
But that's a topic for another day.
00:34:30
But I do think that's gonna be key against against the Heat because the heat have a bunch of guys that that can score their second unit is deep in.
00:34:36
They're gonna get guys who can put up 15 16 on you.
00:34:38
So, like you mentioned, the Lakers aren't losing any ground when their benches out there, they might not have to gain it, But they're not losing any than the venture is doing its job.
00:34:45
Yeah, I think it's gonna be critical that the Lakers get Avery Bradley for this game.
00:34:49
I think I think they're going to need him out there for this one because of how many scores they have.
00:34:53
If you can lock the heat down defensively and you're not gonna lock, they're not totally.
00:34:57
But if you could make things tough for them, then I think the Lakers are gonna have a much better chance to win.
00:35:01
And I like their ability to do to do that with Avery Bradley on the floor better than anybody else.
00:35:05
So I think that's gonna be critical.
00:35:06
And I also think that we could be seeing the return of Rondo with this one would make a lot of sense coming up this road trip.
00:35:12
He can get a light practice in coming up on Thursday.
00:35:16
I'd like to see that.
00:35:17
See Brando make his return in this game.
00:35:19
Not a ton of minutes for him or anything like that.
00:35:21
But I think Friday could be a nice state to look at if you're if you've been looking forward to the return of Rajon Rondo.
00:35:28
Yeah, and I know you have mentioned, but, uh, well, I've got all the posters up in my bedroom and all that.
00:35:34
So, you know, Yeah.
00:35:35
You sleep with the Rondo Rondo pillow and under you, too.
00:35:38
I mean, from what I remember, you were telling me about that, but with Rondo, you want to see him get Yeah, like you said 8 to 10 minutes and see what he could bring with the second unit.
00:35:46
Because I think, you know people.
00:35:48
And Rondo is polarizing.
00:35:49
Some people like him.
00:35:50
Some people hate him, you know.
00:35:51
That's just the nature of the beast.
00:36:06
You want to look to improve the 14 10 12 14 minutes he's gonna hopefully Rondo Rondo is the key to that right now.
00:36:12
Yeah, I think that that is what's gonna happen when Rondo comes back.
00:36:14
I think you see Daniel's minutes probably go away, especially if you can hit the three, which we did see you a bit in preseason, and Frank Vogel was raving about it during training camp as well.
00:36:23
So that's that's pretty.
00:36:25
That's gonna be pretty big for the Lakers.
00:36:27
Some people saying I don't want run, go back Some people saying Hey, Rondo his coming back, That's it.
00:36:35
In a nutshell, that is the Lakers fan based on Roger on Murano. In a nutshell.
00:36:38
There are so many people that are anti Rondo and can't stand him and think he should not be on the floor and then so many people who think Rondo is the best and he should be out there all the time.
00:36:47
So it's Ah, yeah, he's very polarizing and that's for sure.
00:36:50
It, uh, Luca chickadees said.
00:36:54
Will Bradley play on Friday? Jazz.
00:36:57
What do you think? We don't know.
00:36:59
There's no official a statement or anything like that at this point, at least, anything that we've seen unless Frank Vogel said something in the postgame that I haven't seen yet.
00:37:07
But what's your gut feeling? Does Bradley play on Friday? Uh, again, depending.
00:37:11
I mean, they're calling him day today.
00:37:13
Right now.
00:37:14
I wouldn't rush it because you're this early season.
00:37:16
I don't think I think you might not play on Friday, but it might seem back for Sunday against Yeah, I think that would make some sense of it.
00:37:23
Depends, fortunately, avoided.
00:37:25
Serious injury. That's the important thing here.
00:37:27
He's not seriously hurt.
00:37:28
I think if there's any question, you hold them out because they're so early in the season, you don't wanna aggregate anything.
00:37:33
But I wouldn't be surprised to see him suit up on Friday because I think he could do that.
00:37:39
Yeah.
00:37:40
Here we go.
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Now that we're getting ready to wrap up here.
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