Welcome in Lakers Nation.
We're gonna talk about yet another lakerswin that makes five in a row here on the Lakers Nation postgame show.
Gosh, it's a joy to talk about winning basketball.
The Lakers pick up the big winner of the San Antonio Spurs, 103 to 96.
It was not smooth sailing the whole way.
We've got some injury concerns to worry about now with Avery Bradley.
But you know what? They got the W.
The Lakers took care of business, got the win in San Antonio.
That makes five straight wins now, and it means that your Los Angeles Lakers are now in first place in the Western Conference.
Thanks so much for joining us guys.
My name's Trevor Lane and joining me is Jazz King Jazz.
Thanks so much for hopping on.
And finally, finally, it feels so good that we can talk about winning basketball and the Lakers once again.
Yeah, it's been it's been a fun start to the season.
I really liked what we saw from the team in terms of depth allies today, I don't everybody look really good, hoping it's not anything too serious.
With 79 16 points, and we talked about the importance of having one of the support role players have to step up to the Lakers each and every time in order for them to get the production.
They need to be successful on many nights.
And you saw that today.
We're the bench.
Guys came in and I don't think we give enough credit to Dwight Howard a move I'm sure gonna touch on that.
14 points didn't miss a shot.
13 rebounds in credit rating right now is 30 plus 30 basically, So the Lakers or 30 points better with them for 100 possessions on the floor.
That's an astounding staff for a guy who's playing that many minutes.
And as much as we ragged on him myself included it.
What's wrong? Continuous.
Pope also played a pretty **** good game today.
I mean, at this point, we have to We have to give credit where credit is due, right? If we're gonna criticize continuous Caldwell Pope for for his problems, right for its issues, we also have to give him credit when he has a good game.
But I thought he played really well in this one and was impressed by him.
If every brother is out for any length of time, is it KCP? Do you then insert him into that starting lineup? That's gonna be an interesting decision.
And depending on what happens with Rondo, I wonder what What? Frank Vogel will go with their.
I do think with Avery Bradley. His key.
Obviously, it's strength in his defence, right? He's a lock down defenders in your face and brings the energy.
So if you want to go for a similar dynamic, I don't know if the Lakers really have that coming off the bench right now.
So that's gonna be an interesting decision for Vogel.
I would maybe look at trying to keep that line up together as much, even JaVale.
He only played 11 minutes, and Dwight Howard's been way better than.
But if you want to go with the continuity, I did like the way Javale was playing early in the first quarter.
You know what I mean? Like you to give you getting out on shooters.
He had good rotation, is getting back to Marcus Olders and challenging him, but I don't know that that's a tough question right now.
What would you go with it? Bradley doesn't sometime.
Yeah, I mean, I would almost lean towards like on Alex Caruso there.
I think that he's an interesting option.
Um, he's just look, I like the pesky nous that Avery Bradley brings.
And I think that he worked great, by the way, with his mid range shots were were incredible.
So I like that aspect of it, and I just feel like Caruso is a little bit more of a pest.
And so I think if you want some continuity, maybe looked a Caruso there.
But either way, it's going to be a little bit of a shift.
If he can't go, we don't know yet.
All we know is a lower right leg injury and that's it.
We'll find out more.
We may hear more.
Well, we're live here.
By the way, guys, if you're happening, go ahead, throw us your your comments.
Let us know what you're thinking on this game.
And ah again, appreciate you guys joining us Jazz.
Ultimately, lakers do pick up the way.
I mean, that's something, certainly to celebrate.
What were some of the big positives to take out of this game for you again.
I think for me, you know Anthony Davis and LeBron James are going to score 2025 points a game.
That's that's a given right there.
You're expecting that from them, man.
I just love what I've seen from Dwight Howard.
He looks like a throwback Orlando days.
Dwight Howard And it's been it's been fun to see.
I mean, the put back he had today and how he's getting after the offensive rebounds.
He actually had a gorgeous moving the post to where he went the left hand made a nice move.
Got down low, and I'm like, When's the last time we saw that from Dwight Howard? Don't think anybody was watching the Charlotte Hornets game, So maybe he did do it at some point that but, uh from what what? I'm gathering like I love what he's bringing to this team.
Can he sustain this and do it every night? Well, that remains to be seen, but to me, he was the big positive out of this one, and you know what? I'll be honest.
Even though the Lakers struggled a bit in the third quarter and allow the Spurs to get back in, and I felt at that point the Lakers were taken some some, you know, settling too much for outside jumpers and having some ugly turnovers.
I just think this was a pretty decent.
It was just a good basketball game, two teams going at it, playing at a slower pace than than what we're used to see nowadays.
So for me, I mean, any time you're sitting at five and one, I think the Lakers are doing something right on the scary part For the rest of the MBA, it's actually gonna keep getting better.
Yeah, that that's the That's the thing, right? The Lakers chemistry clearly wasn't clicking.
The turnovers were just coming one after another after another, the Spurs were.
The Spurs were staying in the game based off of Lakers turnovers.
With so much the Spurs staying closely, I mean, look, give credit to the Spurs.
They played hard, they played well, but it was Mlle or the Lakers giving the Spurs opportunities more than anything else.
They were not only were there turning the ball over, but in the third quarter particular, they started taking some bad shots where the missus turned into transition opportunities for the Spurs.
So it's almost like a life ball turnover because they were missing bad shots and then the Spurs were getting opportunities.
That's how the Spurs state close when they were having to play in the half court.
And this is a credit to the Lakers.
The Lakers half court defense was suffocating them.
They couldn't deal with it.
And so it was only when the Lakers started to get out of there.
Good habits that the Spurs really stayed close.
And I think that's that's a sign of a good team for the Lakers.
No, it's not good that they let the Spurs stay close is not good that they slipped into some bad habits.
But what is a positive sign is that you've got one of the better teams in the West.
The Spurs, in fact, the team but only lost one game tied with the Lakers in terms of record right now in the Spurs, and I didn't think it was all that close between the two squads.
I thought the Lakers were clearly the better team tonight.
Yeah, I was expecting.
I think they were up 68 53 at one point It was the largest lead to have their up 15 and I was kind of expecting the Lakers to pull away.
But again, I mean, basketball is always It's a cliche.
It's always a game of runs.
Your chances are you're not gonna come in and beat a team pillar to post every night.
Just doesn't work like that.
But, um, I agree with you.
I almost felt like Okay, like the Lakers are gonna win this game.
I didn't really have any points of Oh, no.
What are they doing? Even as you know, they were going off there.
I didn't think was Murray was going, you know, unconscious from the field there at the end, keeping this person it.
But you know, I like I just like the fact that this Lakers team has that veteran presidents and into the point that they're not They're not going to get rattled like we did last year with the games were closer and you saw something.
Young guys not wanting to take shots and I like the fact Frank Vogel today when the game did get tight down the down the stretch there and they wanted to go to 80 or KCP got that, that nice three ball out of transition, and I found that there was a lot more movement as well for the team and Casey be missed one from the corner earlier.
But you had Caruso cut to the late.
He got that kick it back.
You gotta open shots.
It was good to see them get a little bit more move and late in the game, rather than just going to Anthony Davis and kind of staying still.
Yeah, especially just not lobbying straight into the post.
Looked like they did make some adjustments there.
You know, that's one thing we've talked about, you can say.
Look, Frank Vogel.
He should change his starting lineup.
JaVale McGee hasn't been getting it done and all that, But you look in game.
They've made some pretty solid adjustments.
I've been pretty playing what we've seen with Vogel's adjustment in game.
And look, Yeah, JaVale hasn't been that great, but look who's gotten the most of the minutes.
It's been Dwight Howard.
And so, even though jails hung onto the starting job, Vogel has made the adjustment.
He's given the minutes to Dwight, and Dwight has certainly rewarded him for doing that.
And also we've seen a shift towards more minutes to Alex Caruso So far.
Vogel, I think, has done a really nice job of being flexible out there with the minutes and with the personnel that he's got on the floor.
So good job by him as well.
In addition to the to the team for getting out this this win.
And like you said, this doesn't happen with last year's team.
This doesn't happen when you have young players.
This happens when you have veterans.
When you have guys who have been through it who have dealt with issues like this before who have dealt with adversity and know that they can battle back from and they don't panic and that's what we saw tonight.
The Lakers got hit, they got punched in the face, The Spurs were back, it was 92 90 and the Lakers this went up.
We've been through this, We know what to do here and they took care of business in and got the win.
It was a very professional performance down the stretch.
Yeah, and I think that's that's the difference.
We're going to see what this team going forward.
Obviously. I mean, what you have Anti Davidson. LeBron.
You're expected to win 50 55 60 games somewhere around there.
But I like what I'm seeing from the support.
That kind of the support staff right now is a support role players, and you're kind of seeing how these guys like Danny Green was one of four today.
He only played 23 minutes you got did have some foul foul trouble as well, obviously.
But I mean again, you're not relying on just one person.
So I do think that Troy Daniels experiment is gonna end pretty soon.
And I think once Rondo comes back, I don't think we'll see much of Daniel's anymore.
But one question I do have for you with regard to Caruso.
Do you think that the injury was why he wasn't getting that many minutes in the beginning? Or do you think it was something that Frank Vogel was like? All right, I gotta get this guy shot.
The injury is far as right, right? Yeah, early on, I think that that's probably something just towards the tail in the preseason, but I don't think that was the reason I thought he had a pretty rocky preseason overall. Caruso did.
He was struggling to finish in the paint, and so that was an issue.
So once, once we saw preseason get going and we saw, like how Caruso is performing, it made sense that he wasn't getting all that many minutes.
But then, once the games became riel and then Crusoe start playing well, he started, be fed more and more minutes.
So no, I think that I think the Vogel went based on what he saw.
And Caruso wasn't playing well at first, and so he didn't get that many minutes.
But now he's earned Maur.
That's exactly what you should do as a coach.
You're rewarding performance, right? You're not just saying, Oh, you deserve the minutes because you played well at the end of last year.
No, he made Crusoe earning.
So far, he's he's doing a nice job earning those minutes.
So no complaints there.
I like the way he's handled Caruso.
You know, Crusoe getting 20 minutes tonight.
Tonight I thought he made some nice defensive plays, some silly turnovers and things like that.
But a scrappy defender and I think that's exactly what the Lakers need out of him.
Let's talk a little more Dwight Howard, because that's the comment.
I'm getting here over and over and over.
I'm getting a lot of what happened.
Avery Bradley questions, So we're gonna have to see what the injury is there.
But I made so many comments.
Max Andres from Facebook said White is the comeback player of the year.
Dwight Most improved player of the year from YouTube yet cryptic villain Dwight LeBron and Davis is the Big three Lakers 2020.
Uh, all kinds of Dwight is getting back into me every day.
The comments are just flowing in about Dwight Howard.
What? I mean, I am.
I never would have guessed this.
I am blown away like I never would've predicted this.
There's no way anybody said that White would look this good, and I saw an interesting tweet.
A swell Dwight Howard, 79.2%.
You'll go percentages season after going seven for 70.
That's unheard of, right? And I think we started to see it, though, don't you think? Then, when he was playing in the preseason yet and I forget what it was when we were like, You're like, Whoa, Okay.
Like, this is this right? This could be a thing, You know what I mean? And now we're seeing it, and I don't know what it means.
I don't know if it was dedication to reshaping his body and kind of reconfiguring himself in that way.
But, man, so far, uh, let's be honest, Rob Pelinka looking like a genius making that moving, picking him abroad because remember, there was people were like that.
They want a joke.
You know, our guy was the guy was like, I want fighting and marching.
Gortat was another name thrown out there.
It's like, now you look at your like, you'd be an idiot to take any of those guys.
Okay, so I've got an update here.
This is for Mike to Adele at Lakers reporter Frank Vogel said Avery Bradley got kicked around his knee area, but said post game, he was fine Science.
I really if we're gonna go back to delight in this second but cyber early.
So he got a kick to the That could be bad.
You kicked in the knee and hertz, It can lock up on you could be tough to move, so totally understand why he couldn't go the rest of that game.
But, I mean, that's a relief that it wasn't something like he turned weird.
He didn't tear something any of that.
So he should be.
Should be good to go.
So, sire relief there for Lakers Nation.
But let's let's get back to Dwight.
I mean, my gosh, we saw we saw almost primal like last game we got, We got prime LeBron right.
Last time we got LEBRON looking like he was five years younger, this was five years younger.
This I mean, 10 years younger.
13 wars to assist.
Two blocks, 14 points, seven of seven from the field in just 21 minutes.
I'm he was tremendous. And here's the thing that got me.
It wasn't just the blocking shots. A pie.
How quick are his hands? When did this become a thing? He reminded me a Karl Malone.
Remember? Karl Malone used to steal it from everybody in the post.
Is he had those quick, strong hands down there? He reminded me of that, constantly stripping the ball down low from the Spurs defenders or Spurs offensive players before they could even go up.
Ah, I mean, just what a performance.
What? Performance from Dwight Howard.
And look, if he can continue this all year.
I mean, this is you can't fault.
You can't fault Rob Pelinka at all.
Give him total credit for making that decision.
I was wrong to say Joe came Noah over Dwight Howard, but I never would imagine we've seen we'd see this.
No, and that's it.
That's a funny part of it.
You know, like you saw the vitriol that he was getting when when they signed him, it was a lot of people were like, We're not gonna forgive him, you know, whatever.
Everybody's forgotten about that already.
Nobody, nobody cares any more about what happened in 2012 2013 and the way he's looking, the way he's played.
And again, I'm interested to see the more than media starts talking to him.
And we had that summer time with Sham to get that sit down.
But I would be interested to see, you know, OK, what prompted this change? Is it is it really the the mental aspect and again or was the physical because you look at his body.
I mean, he's not carrying nearly as much weight.
He looks like I always say he looks like he's a statue the way he sculpted.
I mean, the guy's the guy's a machine, but when you look at what he's able to do it and bringing to the team right now, I mean, and this was something that were like Oh, man, that boogie cousins injury And I do think that that was a huge loss for the Lakers.
But, man, he's actually making this like Okay, like, Okay, Light's gonna do this then.
Well, you know what? He's kind of feeling in Boogie shoes.
Pretty pretty nicely so far.
Yeah, I mean, different player.
You don't get the floor spacing that you would get out of his cousins.
There's no question there's gonna be games where you wish you had some floor spacing, but with white playing the way that he is right now, Yeah, you certainly can't be too upset with where the way the Lakers ended up because he has been incredible.
Look, just just to give you an idea here, just the way this is going our chat.
By the way, when our chat gets like overloaded, it crashes, right.
And I guess that's just the nature of the beast.
It's crashed five times so far in this show, and we were really going on about 10 minutes.
And every time I restarted its Dwight, Dwight, Dwight, Dwight, Dwight all the way down.
Just just all these comments.
People are loving what they're seeing out of Dwight Howard.
I'm talking about coming in from Facebook, talking about coming in from Periscope, coming in from YouTube.
All these different commenters coming in, talking about Dwight Howard, incredible stuff from him and so impressive, and hopefully he can keep that up.
Yeah, that's that's what I'm hoping for as well.
And I think the big thing for delight is consistency.
Our biggest score, 14 points and 13 rebounds.
He doesn't know he doesn't have to get it on his job, but if he this is gonna be good for his confidence and I also think that he can build towards being in limited minutes.
If he's playing 20 to 25 minutes, he still has the capability of putting up somewhere between six and nine points and getting 9 10 rebounds.
And that's exactly what you know.
We're talking about boogie cousins like you mentioned totally different players, right? It gives you the three point opportunity ****ies, a better pastor out of the post.
But the job that Dwight Howard does in terms of being a rim protector and and a rebounder that loser skill sets that book he didn't really have.
And when he went down way, have a lot of people like everybody involved the Lakers stuff was talking about.
And what of the Lakers going to do at the Big Man spot? Because can you imagine they didn't have Dwight? And it would just be JaVale McGee at this point? Oh, he's so inconsistent.
He doesn't bring it.
And you look at this and like, that's what I'm saying.
I mean, Rock Blanca.
He hit a home run on this.
When we got to call it what it is so far, I don't want I don't want to jump the gun and say, We're going to see this Game 82.
But six games and he's looking like a genius.
Yeah, he certainly is.
Let's give credit somebody else to hear Avery Bradley, obviously couldn't finish out the game.
But I thought he had a really nice performance, especially on the offensive.
And he really got the Lakers going with his mid range jumper, which has been inconsistent to start season.
He's been kind of hit it hit or miss there, but they do a nice job of running him off of curls.
And he's quick enough.
And he usually has a weaker defender on him because teams figure well, Avery Bradley.
He's not as big of an offensive threat, but they run him off these little curls and they get him.
This little 20 foot jumper, which look defense's air, schemed right now to give up that shop.
That's what they don't want to give up the three.
They don't want to give up the shot at the rim.
They want to give up that mid range shot.
So if you have a guy who's really good at it, it can actually be inefficient shot if you're good at it.
And Avery Bradley tonight was very, very good at it.
Seven of nine shooting one a one from three only took 133 boards when it says one steal by thought defensively He was solid.
He was doing a nice job doing his normal, pesky self.
But then him being able to knock down those mid range jumpers coming off a curls, it opened things up.
It gave the Lakers another option to go to and gave the Spurs another guy to worry about.
16 points again, eh? So he was the third leading scorer for the Lakers tonight.
Great performance from him on the offensive, and I think this is probably best offensive performance we've seen from him yet.
Oh, yeah, and you're looking.
I'm checking out his shot chart. You know.
He scored 12344 jumpers, Basically that mid range are long twos and again, people now, Susan, statistically say, that's the worst shot in basketball.
You shouldn't be taking that.
But, I mean, I like you mentioned If you have a guy who can consistently hit that, then absolutely do it.
And I like what Avery Bradley used to do in Boston as well.
You know, he was able to like your mention curling off screens and just kind of hit that quick hit jumper.
And and again, that's a skill set the Lakers need because you look at it.
I don't like the one thing I don't like about Anthony Davis at point so far, even though we've been fantastic.
95% of the time is he settles a little bit too much for jumpers, and you look at LeBron where those pull up jumpers when he's going one on one in the eye, so spot he shouldn't a lot of pull up.
Those aren't their shots, so you gotta go like Avery Bradley, who can hit that consistently.
That gives you a different dynamic to the team.
And I think Avery Bradley again not talked about as much as Dwight Howard because he's not a fancy. He doesn't.
You know it doesn't have those big, big plays that Dwight does but men.
Avery Bradley has been has been great so far this year, too.
Like if you look at the new additions, who your top three guys that you look at on this team of the new guys Danny Green and Avery Bradley and Danny Green, Avery Bradley, Dwight Howard.
I think those are Those are my top three new additions and, um, I think if you asked me before the season, though, I probably would have said, I don't know if I would've said Dwight, but Danny Green and Avery Bradley certainly would've been, Would've been up there, any of the any of the guys like Quinn.
Cook's been a bit disappointing.
I won't say a little bit.
I don't like what I see from Quinn Cook and Troy Daniels over one.
I said, He's both three for 20 now outside the Utah game from three Point Land.
So I like I said, I think that experiment might end sooner than later. Yeah, agreed.
You know, I thought toward Daniels did find defensively, But look, if Troy Daniels isn't hitting shots, if Queen cookies and hitting shots, then you can't have him on the floor.
They're not good enough defensively.
Like Avery, Bradley is a good enough defenders where if he misses some jumpers in the game, okay, you take it because he makes that up on the defensive end.
Quinn Cook and Troy Daniels.
You can't say the same thing about I thought Troy Daniels did find defensively, but he wasn't good enough to make up for any kind of poor offense, so those guys have to knock down shots.
Rondo is coming back sooner rather than later.
Could be back next game.
But I don't I don't know if Quinn Cook and Troy Daniels get any minutes when Rondo comes back.
I have I have a sneaking su****ion that that's where run those minutes are gonna come from.
Oh, yeah, pressure.
I don't I don't think Daniel's.
And I think if KCP can be delivered what he did today and be consistent, he should be a part of the rotation as much as I bragged on him.
But it's one thing I will ask you.
This has the Dwight experiment so far how you get over the jukebox.
Think this through.
I was over the zoo bods thing.
I think I got through that last spring.
It took some time, you know, I had to do a little soul searching.
I practice some meditations and things like that.
I worked on just kind of releasing those those feelings after jukebox was it Did it did.
It was it was something that wasn't easy.
But I always ableto I was able to come through, and I feel like I'm stronger person now for having gotten through that, it came out stronger on the other side.
That's what's important, right? Hey, you know, uh, we need to talk a little bit.
About about 80 You know, he had a nice game tonight over all, 10 of 20 shooting, 11 boards for blocks, 25 points.
But it feels like this is just kind of like this is what he does.
He he is that consistent presence in the paint every single night had a really nice chase down block.
He's that he's that guy that they didn't have last year.
That could be such a dominant force for them on the inside that it makes them tough to deal with my fit.
One of my favorite moments of the night was when he blocked the markers Aldridge without jumping.
Introduce your jumper in 80 kind of Miss Red, and he just threw an arm up there.
But he has pterodactyl wings for arms.
So he blocked the shot even though he didn't jump it.
I mean, look, it's nine day, man.
You look at this team night and day compared to last season.
I mean, this six games and we were talking about it being a process and taken some time for the team to gel again.
And we're looking at this now.
Like the way the Lakers are playing at this one.
This one has mentioned a little bit off the top of the show is they're going to be scary, man.
Like they're they're They're just scratching the surface in terms of chemistry, in terms of knowing each other and playing with each other and getting comfortable and familiar with their surroundings.
And once they start doing that and they kind of build their chemistry not only on the court but off the court and these guys start getting to know each other more and building bonds and friendship, they're gonna be they're gonna be nasty to deal with.
And I almost think that Clippers game in the beginning was was a good thing for them to lose like that, because I think Frank will be made the right adjustments.
But, man, you look at Anthony Davis.
Yeah, he's one of the top five players in the league right now, and he could be sitting at the top three going out when all is said and done in April? Yeah, absolutely.
Uh, you want to hear a ridiculous stat here, Jess.
So I wanted to see just what Dwight Howard's impact has been on the defensive end and Dwight Howard, one of the Lakersbest defensive lineup ***ually with Dwight Howard on the floor.
It's the starters with Dwight Howard.
So LeBron James.
This is a A lineup that has appeared.
I looked for lineups that appeared at least four out of five games or something that we have at least seen a little bit consistently.
So LeBron Dwight, Danny Green, Avery Bradley, Anthony Davis.
They've appeared in four games together.
Their defense sieve rating is 63 63 their offensive rating is 138.
Oh, that means per 100% her per 100 possessions that group right now.
And that's not sustainable.
But right now, that group would be scoring 138 points and giving up 63.
Holy crap, you can I again, You know what? The numbers don't lie.
That's what we always say, right? The numbers don't lie.
So I think Frank Vogel's got to take a look at that, and I think you.
It's gonna be interesting to see how Koos fits into all this.
I know right now you're catching is splitting, but you're mentioning that That's the Lakers version of the death line up according to the ground.
But yeah, I mean, that's that's insane that you're scoring a team by 75 points for under possession.
I think that says a lot about the defensive prowess that those guys have, and I think LeBron stepping up to because he has to play with these guys.
But it'll be interesting to see how they roll.
Who's into this? And and again, I think Frank Vogel is gonna be better suited to not just sticking with a lot of NBA teams like this is what we run.
And this is how we were, you know, run a rotation.
And this is our steam where I think you're gonna have to look at bumping that because that that lineup is putting out those kind of numbers.
Man, you gotta stick with it whenever you can.
Regardless of how college Kosmas point.
Yeah, and you want to get a little even more ridiculous.
So the counterpart to that, the starting five with JaVale McGee.
Defensive rating. 107 106.8.
105 Net rating of minus 1.9.
So we know we know what might happen here coming up soon.
What do you think about that? Would you take to bail out right away or stick with what he's doing now? I don't know.
That's a tough call, You know, I think what he's.
I kind of like what Vogel is doing.
The way he's starting with McGee.
He's letting McGee get get going a little bit, and then he's subbing in Dwight and and all that it.
Dwight's getting the majority of minutes I don't You don't have to start your very best lineup.
I thought they started just fine tonight, So, uh, no problems there.
I you know, I probably just stick with what they've been doing just because he's been working.
If they losing some games here in there, Yeah, I might look to switch it up, but until they lose a game, I just keep doing what they're doing.
Yeah, I agree with you, and I think if it ain't broke, don't Don't fix it And don't try and get too cute right now. It's working.
It's not like they're getting killed in the beginning of games, either, that they're down 15 points after the 1st 6 minutes.
So stick with what's working and you and you got your rotation kind of set with Dwight.
And then, you know, javale.
Probably 56 minutes in the first quarter, maybe 56 in the third quarter.
But he ain't seen the floor in crunch time.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Now, a minute ago, you mentioned Kyle Kuzma.
Let's jump to him real quick.
16 minutes tonight, two of seven shooting, one of four from deep, three boards, five points, not not a jump off the page at United.
It's clearly and we said this jazz, we said it's going to take time for Con Cruise.
But to get his legs back under him, he's not going to just hit the hit the ground running.
It's going to take time as me.
He hasn't been able to run.
His injury was one that would not allow him to do things like that.
So, yeah, we'll take him some time.
But Frank Vogel had a quote after the game from from Kyle Goon mentioned this of the OSI Register, said that Vogel basically admitted that he had planned to go back to college cruise mode.
But then Dwight was playing so well.
He said, No, forget it.
I'm just gonna leave Dwight Howard on the floor, which was clearly the right decision.
But obviously, I think that at some point Cosmo will be part of that death line up, so to speak, that the Final five.
But for right now, it doesn't seem like there's any rush to push him into that.
No, And again, you're sitting at five and one and you're not, You know, like I have one in five.
You might be like, ****, we got to get ready and getting played more.
I think he's gonna be better suited to ease into the lineup.
I did like a couple of pointers you today.
You could tell he's so much more active than those guys on the offense event.
I'm talking about the bench guys right, like when Kyle Kuzma is out there, you'll see me.
He's always looking to get open, whether it's for a jumper or he's looking to make the right cut or the reed.
So I think he brings that dynamic and I agree with you.
There's no point in rushing him back.
You basically had to miss a couple of months if you include training camp and the beginning of the season in preseason, so he's got to get caught up in once he does again.
It's gonna add a new wrinkle for Frank Vogel on and if he's doing as good a job as he is now with the team.
In terms of reading the rotations and making adjustments, and I think that's a big thing is that half time, you seem to make the right adjustments didn't do as well that they have in the third quarter.
Today is they have previously.
But I do think Kyle, Kyle Kuzma he's gonna be a process.
Maybe you'll start to see him kind of get to where he needs to be, probably by the middle towards the end of this month.
So, uh, I've got Raheem gains from a Yeah, I agree.
The prime middle of the end of the month for Kuzma Rahim gains from Facebook, Say, asking for an update on Avery Bradley.
I know some people didn't hear it earlier in the show.
Avery Bradley sounds like he's gonna be okay.
It sounds like it's just just contusion got kicked around the knee area.
Should be good to go.
So again, sigh of relief.
Avery Bradley should be good.
We've got a few people that were asking about Snoop Dollar King vortex from YouTube.
No mention of stooped down.
Did you see Snoop Dog was? Was at the game rocking Lakers gear, even went and interrupted.
The Spurs broadcast that go on camera wearing his Lakers gear.
Lakers fans are legion.
We travel and Snoop Dog is one of us.
So one of these one of the Kings of the Lakers, man.
So that's right.
You know what? I wish I had much wanted soup when I'm older, but, I mean, I'm kind of broke, so I don't think I'll be able to do that.
But I think it's stupid targets.
It's always cool to see the Lakers, and they have such a big, big following all the celebrity fans.
So it's always great to see him representing, especially on the road like that, right? Yeah, absolutely.
Uh, common here from Easter three from YouTube.
Stick with what's working bunch of question marks.
You know what's working? Bunch of question marks.
Dwight Howard is working all caps.
See, he's mad at us, So why not Do Maur of what's working bunch of question marks? There's no rational argument to keep giving McGee minutes, so he's saying, We're that we should not be starting javale McGee.
You don't stick with what's working right now, even though they're winning that.
You go ahead and you put Dwight Howard into the starting lineup and you just roll with him.
I totally get that.
The knee jerk reaction is throw Dwight Howard over the starters.
He's playing better than McGee. He should start.
Starting doesn't mean you're the better player.
There's been plenty of instances in N B A history where we've seen the better player come off the bench.
It could be a chemistry thing.
It could be a fit thing.
It could be just a timing thing.
Maybe you want the boost of Dwight Howard coming in and around the sometime towards the end of the first quarter beginning of the second.
You like that combo with him in a D on the floor when LeBron is not.
There's a lot of reasons why you would do that.
I'm saying it's working right now, so you go with it.
But it doesn't matter.
McGee's not getting most of the minutes.
Most of the minutes are going to Dwight Howard, and I think that's going to continue to be a thing.
As long as Dwight's playing like this and that's all that matters.
I don't care who starts it to start so much.
Yeah, you look, you look around, you look around the league.
I mean, you don't look at the Clippers, you know? Doesn't mean that Landry she met should be starting over Lou Williams.
No, I mean Lou Williams.
Bring something off the bench of a dynamic that the team needs.
And while I agree with the commenter Yeah, Dwight Howard so far has been way better than javale McGee.
Right? Like that.
There's no denying that, But you also have to look at it.
Okay, Let's say we want to go with Anthony Davis and LeBron James and get them some rest.
Okay, So you're gonna go with your secondary line up.
Let's We don't have the starters on the phone.
You're gonna go cruise as of right now, maybe coups.
Caruso, KCP Quinn, Cook and Javale McGee.
No, I mean you need some more pop out of there and Dwight gives you.
The Dwight has the potential to score 14 20 points in a game by just getting rebounds and putting back dunks, and I think he brings that element to the team.
You kind of mask him when he's on the court with Anthony Davis and LeBron James, and and with Dwight Howard, he just brings that element that the team needs off the bench.
She was so bouncy tonight to finishing those for those put backs.
I mean, just he got seven fun, too, and that's that's what the great part is to see.
He's having a great time doing it.
So it looks like he's relaxed and in his own world right now, you know, which is great.
Ah, fantasy ecstasy from YouTube, It says, proud of KCP playing through the slump and coming up Big Dwight is an inspiration to us all.
We've talked about that.
I said it last time.
You kind of laughed at me, but I said KCP is better than what we've seen from him so far.
And if you have a guy like like Look, we're talking about Dwight and how well he's doing and he's outperforming expectations, guys like a CPR going to give up, either they're gonna look if he could do it.
If he could battle back, his back's against the wall.
I can, too, on it.
So I think that I think we're seeing some chemistry from the Lakers.
I think we're seeing guys step up.
Guys pick each other up.
Even when they miss shots.
Guys are helping each other, and I don't think that element was always there for them, especially in years past.
I mean, last season, you look at it and you can tell the body language on the guys and again, I think this comes with experience.
You look at this Lakers team, it just motive of guys who have been in the NBA's been on a championship team, you know what I mean? You around the Warriors, you kind of pick up on what makes team successful and what doesn't.
And you're right, the chemistry and again they're gonna have to develop this more and they will as time goes on for me.
I think that just scratching the surface of this point and you're looking at this and we've talked about this a time.
I mean, their schedule is so favorable over the next month or so until early December. I think they played Denver.
It's like this team could legitimately be sitting at something like like I've said before, 15 and 3 54 which is which is outstanding, especially in the West, where you want to get off to a good start because you can.
You can kind of compiled those wins against teams that you should, and that'll matter sometime in April. That's right.
Keep patting that those win totals bump up as many as you can get him on your record.
Get through the game because at some point you're going to need him.
There's gonna be some trying times.
There's gonna be some blowed management games, things like that.
You're not going to go win a five and one pace the entire season.
That's not gonna happen.
You're gonna have some losses sprinkled in there that just that's the way of the N B A.
It's going to happen.
So the more wins you can force onto your record right now, when you're feasting on some of the weaker teams, the better, because there's gonna be some lean times when you need them.
Now, speaking of which, next game coming up, you're gonna be in Chicago at the Bulls homecoming for Anthony Davis from Chicago.
Okay, but what do you want to see out of this next game that's coming up on? What is it Tuesday? Here? It's on Tuesday.
I know for me, I think the big thing is the Bulls stink.
I don't think there's any any, you know, any way around that.
They're a terrible team.
They're not very good.
And we've talked about this.
It would be nice to see the Lakers put together a game where, all right, with 25 after three or on 80 you guys rest.
And at that point, you could give Koosman extra 56 minutes at the end of the game, find its footing and getting opportunities like that.
I think that'll be, that'll be important.
But again, I'm I'm fully expecting the Lakers t come out and basically beat the brakes off the Bulls as they should.
And then they come home for a short two games scented with Miami and Toronto next under.
So you could look at these games.
They go at Phoenix.
Golden State's not very good home to Sacramento.
I'm just going to the middle of the month here.
I mean, this team could if they play to their potential, they could realistically be looking at 10 and 1 11 and one day earlier.
Yeah, it's certainly possible, but that's a that's a great point.
That's an angle to this Bulls game that I hadn't thought of.
Just if they are able to get out to a big lead.
If it ends up being kind of like the Memphis game, and I think the Bulls are actually better team than Memphis, I think the Bulls do have some young time exactly mean they've got Lori Market and players like that window. Carter.
I enjoy watching him play basketball, too, but there's they've got some good young players here.
Don't forget Kobe White.
They have potential.
So this I'm not saying this team is just gonna roll over for you. They're not.
This is a team that's going to come out there and find you.
But if the Lakers get out, they're executed.
If they take care of business, they could find themselves in a position where for the fourth quarter, you give Koosman the ball and you say, OK, go Time to time to knock some of the rust off.
This is your opportunity.
This is, you know, a scrimmage.
At this point, if you could be up by state 2025 again, not assuming that's going to happen, because you can't in the n b a get, just assume you're gonna be up by that much.
But the potential is there for the Lakers to come out and get a big win and then give those minutes to Koosman.
I think that's a great point.
They'll be, Ah, that would be a really good good thing to do for him in the progression of his game.
And that's where it comes.
You know what? You want to be able to take this time, tease these guys easing back into the lineup, and that's the opportunity, because playing at practice, although it's good and you can you know you're gonna have the high intensity practices and scrimmages and stuff.
It's not the same dynamic.
You know, your players, you know, your teammates inside out.
So it's almost like it's harder to play in practice because are easier to play in practice because you know what's coming from these guys in as opposed to when you're when you're playing in a game and you're going to see who's my get, hopefully get an opportunity.
Didn't knock the rust up.
I think that would be the ideal situation.
Also, like you mentioned a TB from Chicago.
It be cool if he did one of those am coming home and putting up 55 points because I feel like you know what I mean.
That would be it's always cool of 80 goes up for 55.
But yes, certainly you could have that added element for him.
Sometimes there's a little more pressure on that when they're when a player comes home because you've got all these old friends hit you up for tickets and all that kind of stuff, so there's a little bit of a different element to it.
But yeah, I would definitely be great to see a D have himself a big game battle of the boards that the Lakers did find their.
They actually lost by one rebound, 46 to 47.
The Spurs outrebounded them on the offensive boards.
The Spurs had eight, which is more than you like to see what the Lakers had.
So this is a team that did well, Anthony Davis, obviously a big part of that.
I think rebounding is gonna be a real factor here against the Chicago Bulls.
You know, they've got some players that can really hit the boards, but I I think there's an opportunity here for the Lakers to go in and really dominate inside.
And so that's what I would like to see out of this next game.
I would like to see Bully Ball.
I'd like to see them knock.
This young, younger team around Otto Porter Jr can be a challenge on the perimeter.
You got to deal with with him a little bit.
He's Ah, solid three and D wing defender.
They've got some good players there.
But ultimately I think if the Lakers could go and enforce their will and show their kind of the Big brother here, this game could get out of hand with by, say, the third quarter or so.
No, it should get out and open.
The Lakers kicked the crap out of him.
That's what should happen on Tuesday.
I think the Bullets are just like you mentioned individual talent in terms of young guys.
I don't think any of those guys are. Superstars are.
Maybe Kobe White will develop into being an All Star.
But there's no reason why the Lakers shouldn't shouldn't shouldn't kill them.
And I'm looking at the Spurs team today.
I mean, we know you'd be an idiot now to ever say, Well, you gotta count the Spurs out.
They don't They don't have the top end telling that they used to.
No, they're still really, well, coach.
And, you know, even though he was one of 3 96 game, I mentioned this.
When we started the show.
I think there was a good basketball game and both teams going out and the Spurs made some plays.
Rudy Gay hit some big shots, so to me it's encouraging to see the Lakers not losing their composure.
3 pointers in a terrible state 6 to 24 so that's something they can improve on.
But overall, I mean, I just find that the Lakers right now what we're seeing is they put the rest of the N V A l notice because if they're sitting at 10 and one and we talked about this, we're like, Well, we could have an adjustment period like we did last year with a team, started off really slow and then hit its stride in December.
It's like this team is still figuring things out.
And if they're sitting at 10 11 and one, by the time they start to figure things out, they arrested the N B A.
Better realize what could happen to him in any way? Yeah, absolutely, Absolutely.
The rest of the league is going to start really taking notice.
I mean, look, if the Lakers weren't already the team that people got up to play, they are even more so now, by the way.
Officially X ray negative for Avery Bradley.
Lower right leg confusion.
I'm pulling this from Brad Turner from the L.
Times. This could be it. It's possible someone else got to it sooner.
I'm just kind of scrolling through Twitter here X rays.
Status day today.
So again, day today. That's great.
Excellent news from the best he could have hoped for.
Gotta like that.
So, Jess, let's talk a little bit about about this.
One of the things that I really love is that this game got close and I wasn't nearly as I didn't have that foreboding sense like I did last season.
Last season for game, but close. I'd be going.
Here, come, here we go.
We're about to get punched here, right? This is gonna be this is gonna be bad.
But this time this game got close, and it was like, I think they'll handle it.
I think that these guys, it's just such a different feeling, But it's a familiar We've talked about this before.
It's a familiar feeling.
It feels like the the Kobe Pau Lakers.
It feels like the Shaq Kobe Lakers.
It feels like that team where you know they're gonna make big plays because they've got the veterans to do it.
They've got the guys who have been in those tough positions before, and, uh and I'm enjoying it.
I love it. It feels so great.
to enjoy Lakers basketball again.
Not just. Hey, it was awesome.
The Brandon Ingram went off tonight.
Or did you see that passion? Ones of all, But But they lost the game.
No, they're They're winning right there, winning games and they're winning close games.
They're taking care of it.
It's It's a great thing.
That's a good point at last season, some points with a the Lakers that came up short a little bit.
That makes a dumb place at the end.
But Brandon Ingram scored 26.
So you know what? Here they come.
Did you see that? Yeah, we're excited.
That was That was a reason to be excited.
It's not from a bronze.
Got hurt, but you're right.
I mean, I just like the way that I be there.
It's a different feeling that you're right, like you're not sitting there like Oh, no, here we go again.
They're gonna lose. It's almost like this.
It's it's It's hard for me to explain, because it's the chemistry that these guys have with each other, and it's already looking like they played together for two or three years.
You know what I mean? Even though we know they haven't.
And it's just the way that the team is playing the ball ball movement has been a little bit stagnant.
I think you'll start to see that you get a little bit better, but just picking up on things and defensively, man like you mentioned.
I mean, everybody's in the They have that in the pan to the passing lane.
They're able to rotate better.
Everything looks smoother.
So to me, you're right.
I mean, like, I didn't have a feeling the Lakers were gonna lose this game where his last season, you'd be like, Oh, it's 92 90.
Here comes a couple of dumb mistakes that cost the team the game.
And I'll tell you what, just from doing this show, we did this show all of last season, and you remember, I keep an eye on all the numbers, but we you and I just we talked about this all the time.
Our numbers went through the roof whenever the Lakers lost, because this show became like therapy, the group there for only fans to come an event and just talk about how bad the team was and how ultimately things were going to be okay and we would talk about how things could could change moving forward and how you know which young guy was really playing well.
And we will look for all those silver linings and we did all that.
It really was like Like they're being one of the people who watches.
This is one of my favorite former W W superstars, Chris Master.
She was actually a bunch of conversations with him about this show, and he's told me a bunch of times how he would come on the show.
He would come in here.
We watched the show just a kind of vent after a difficult lakersloss, and that was that was what we did.
That was what we provided in the last season.
And now this season, we're getting people jumping in because they all want to celebrate, not because they need a place to turn to in order, to to kind of commiserating with each other about what we just saw from the Lakers.
But now it's it's a it's a celebration for Lakers basketball, back to the way things used to be in its Ah gosh, that's a good feeling.
We should have been charging people $50 an hour for the therapy sessions were given a last season.
We were made on both the right man.
I've been watching.
It's just a different energy around the team and even being around Staples Center.
I live close to there and 80 older, you know, around there on a game night just during the day.
It's just a different feeling with this team.
And when the Lakers are good and they're playing like this, the entire city of L.
A loves it, right? Nobody cares about the Clippers.
You got 4 14 people at their game tonight.
You get a ticket for $4 toe, you know, just to get in to watch him at Staples Center.
Where is with the Lakers? Everybody's gonna start talking about it.
Once you get that energy going, the players will start to feel that the organization will have it.
It just It just makes everything more fun.
And you can tell we're laughing and smiling a bit more rather than getting frustrated.
And even though we're still getting them, I feel like Carmelo Anthony.
Comments are questions are coming a little bit last, which they are, in fact, that you were the first person to mention in that I've seen and I've been trying to keep an eye.
The questions go by fast, and I've been trying to keep it.
I haven't seen Carmelo Anthony's name mentioned just yet, though Now I'm sure I'm sure he's going to be, Oh, a few people asking, Could you break the master clock? Because I mentioned Chris Masters? I'm pretty sure that's a no.
What about them? Come on one of these times.
But yeah, we were pretty sure that's a no on that one.
Uh, people saying, saying You guys were right.
The Lakers are the first thing we talk about at work.
Now more people are wanting to talk about the Lakers is like it used to be sort of Ah, reluctant thing.
Hey, you know, nobody says, Hey, did you see the game right last night? Because nobody wanted to talk about it, right? Like nobody wants to discuss what What they had just seen.
But now Oh, yeah, Here comes the mellow comets.
But now you're saying you see the Lakers, you see how well they played to see how good they look.
It's It's amazing. I love it.
Yeah, it's the same thing.
You know what? And I mentioned that I'm not.
I'm not a Yankees fan.
You know, I'm not a big Pittsburgh Steelers or New York Giants fan or anything like that, But when they're good, it's like Man united in the Premier League.
When they're good, it makes the whole league better.
So when the Lakers are at the top of the heap, whereas last year Yeah, they got a lot of national games, but they weren't considered a contender.
Now it's like, Okay, when they're good people and be a better and it's got a final, everybody's starting the Lakers again.
So I mean, last year people were having pity for them, and now people are going on the bandwagon.
We're gonna sit here and rub it in their face that it's gonna be fine.
Bring us your hate.
Yeah, and one of the So I don't have a ton of time to go check out different message boards and things like that.
But one of them that I've checked out is one that was started by a group of people that migrated from a different message board a Lakers message board old one called Club Lakers.
Back in the day, there's a new one called Lakers Ball that's been around for a few years.
I don't get it really commenting on there as much as I used to or anything like that.
But But they do have one threat on there.
That's all about just fans of other teams hating on the Lakers and its funding.
Go through and read this compilation of all this hatred because it feels good.
It feels good for the Lakers to be a hated team once again.
You gotta love it.
Yeah, we did that.
Well, I'm from I'm from Vancouver, as I mentioned before.
So in 2011 the NHL team there was awesome two during the regular season, everybody in Canada and the 123 hockey fans in the U. S.
Didn't didn't like the fact that cannot be good for mostly Canadian transplants, right? Probably the people watching with 0.
8 reading that they get on NBC for the Games.
But they actually said the hashtag that people started using there was hashtag embrace a and that's what you've got to do with the Lakers right now.
Go ahead and complain.
That 80 stronger on his way here.
You're **** right he did.
He's with the Lakers, and we're gonna sit here, enjoy every second of 100% for sure.
All right, Jess, why don't we wrap it up their final thoughts? Anything you want you want to leave us with? I'm just unloved and seeing this. And again. I grew.
I'm sure we had thousands of comments about it.
Dwight Howard, man, I'm having so much fun watching him play.
I should jumped up out of my out of my chair when I saw him get that one dunk and I would just like, you know, it's fired me up.
So I'm hoping he can continue this, and I'm hoping he stays in the right mindset because it's been fun to what Jim be the third best Laker behind Anthony Davis and LeBron James.
Yeah, no argument.
He has been the third best Laker.
It's been incredible.
Never would have predicted it.
But that's one of the great things about the NBA's there.
Is that a little bit of unpredictability that's still out there? Guys reading through the comments They have been flying by.
I can't even keep up with all them.
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