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Hello, everybody.
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Welcome to the Lakers Nation postgame show.
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Your Los Angeles Lakers just picked up a big win over the Golden State Warriors.
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Well, big for preseason.
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Anyway, Way got to see some interesting things from the Lakers preseason team here.
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Look, LeBron didn't play.
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Anthony Davis didn't play.
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Rondo didn't play a lot of the key guys.
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We're out, but we still got to see some pretty exciting things going on in the world of Lakers basketball.
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Gutsy JaVale McGee hit a three javale make three.
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It has returned, but I think most important return is Jazz and I have returned the postgame show.
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We're starting a whole new season.
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We're trying out something's trying to send this to a lot of different sources.
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So we're still in preseason mode, getting ready for the regular season.
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But Jazz man, how are you doing? It's good to be back, I can tell you that.
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Oh, yeah, I'm excited to the preseason, even rolling right now.
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I'll admit I was only able to watch one of the China Game Club wasn't gonna wake up with 2nd 1 eh? So I'm glad that they're they're playing on normal Pacific time here and I'm able to enjoy it.
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And you know what it was? It was a fun game tonight, getting to see what Zach Norville Junior did get to see a little bit of David stocking and the hustle plays he made.
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So, um, just happy to be back.
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And I'm looking forward to the leakers, actually being a championship contender again.
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Yeah, for sure.
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I mean, look, the Lakers are finally back to being a contender.
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Status and Ah, look, if Edie and LeBron James can put everything together, then we're gonna be in for a big, big treat This season should be a ton of fun.
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Jazz.
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What was your take on the guys that Frank Vogel rested tonight? What did you think about that strategy? Was that a good plan here in preseason? Yeah.
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I don't think you wanna wear aware of the guys a little bit too much right now in the preseason coming back from China to it's obviously a very, very long flight and taxing in that sense.
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And I mean, the LeBron thing with Daryl Morey stuff in the tweet.
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So I think they kind of had their mind on other things, especially being there in China and having to deal with this in the preseason.
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So I thought it was a good move for him and see what you're getting out of some of these young guys.
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And if any of them have potential, the one they end up playing up with the Lakers instead of the self big eyes at some point this season.
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Yeah, I mean, look, it's good experience for all of them, right? It's It's a good opportunity for these guys to get in there and prove their worth.
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And I thought the guy who really stood out was was Zach Norval.
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I mean, he had a hell of a game.
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He was so impressive out there.
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I believe he led the team in scoring.
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Let me go ahead and pull that appear 2022 to 3 of eight from three mean six of 13 shooting, seven of eight fromthe line.
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I thought he had a fantastic performance.
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In fact, I even I was texting you, I said, nor velo ver kcp is that is that we were at at this point, I don't know if I'm ready to go that far, but but I think he outplayed him today.
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Yeah, I think we might have that discussion at some point during the season.
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And you're going to see Novell.
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Probably stop.
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Started off with the South.
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Were guys in the D League.
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And if he can play like this and continue to develop open, we all know he's undrafted.
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So it's not like he's been in the league.
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Are bouncing around for four or five years.
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And this was kind of like, Okay, is this guy gonna take? No, He's still young, still developing, and I think that that might be a valid case if he's playing like this when he's playing with self A What about you? Yeah.
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I mean, look, if he can keep this up, then maybe you can get some more minutes for Zach nor Bella in the lineup.
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Now again, it's one game, and the Lakers are very veteran, heavy team.
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And so you can't say, Oh, look, one game or novella clearly better than KCP.
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Get rid of KCP, threw him on the end of the bench and just put and just put your belly in there.
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Start him starting over.
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Danny.
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Yeah, we're not at that point.
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But he did have a Greek aiming for a guy who was undrafted.
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These are the kinds of steals the Lakers have to find.
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They've got to find players like this.
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They're not gonna have many draft picks moving forward.
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So if you can find a guy that you can legitimately play and that's the way Zach Norville seems to be trending right now, then this is a big, big win for the Lakers.
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Now again, we don't want to get too far ahead of ourselves.
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But I liked what I saw from him.
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Yes, it's in here just a being aggressive and being, ah, you know, looking to score.
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And I think that was something that, um I've been concerned about what the Lakers in terms of the bottom and depth of their of their guard play, who's gonna be able to produce some points for these guys here.
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So when you when you're looking at what he did out there, just being aggressive and I love it shall always love the way left handed players Look, I don't know why when they're when they're shooting jumpers says as a lot of player, I will take the compliment just Yes, I'm light headed that way.
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I think it looks smooth and stuff in and just seeing him being able to contribute that way and kind of taking over offensive possessions.
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I think that gives him some some hope going forward for sure, 100%.
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Yeah, gives him gives him that confidence.
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I thought he's the kind of guy who plays under control for the most part, he makes some rookie mistakes here and there.
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But for the most part, this guy's plays under control plays a very smooth, very calm game.
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And so I really liked that.
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Um, the other thing that really stood out to me was Dwight Howard.
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What it's like this is his reintroduction.
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The Lakers fans his first game back in Los Angeles, in front of the hometown crowd, and so he's kind of gotta heal those wounds, and I thought he went a long way towards doing that.
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Tonight, When you look at what he put up, I mean impressive for a guy that's that's done, the things that Dwight is done right in his career.
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This guy's a Hall of Fame player, three time defensive player of the year to be in a preseason game you could see where he would kind of coast a little bit.
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Be like, This is kind of beneath me.
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No, we didn't see that at all from Dwight, though.
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He went out there, he played hard.
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He hustled 13 boards, four steals, one block, 12 points and I don't know which is more surprising, the eight of 10 from the free throw line or the six assists.
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But either one of those you would ever expect to get that from Dwight Howard.
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And yet here he is.
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He had a great performance.
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I gotta admit, I'm not a fan of his hair.
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That's one thing I don't like about Dwight right now.
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Let the plain below what he's bringing.
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I'm not.
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I'm not a fan of it.
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I think big men don't look good like that, You know what I mean? I mean, you could have just I don't like the look, but I mean, he looks lean and he's looking jacket stuff like that.
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But, um, what he's bringing to the table, what he's done all preseason is showing that he could still rebound and that was something Lakers and people were kind of looking at, like okay, is a team gonna be able to get like enough rebounding before they signed him? And I think he addressed that as a huge need to it with what he's going to do on the glass of the guy's just a machine around.
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They're swallowing everything up.
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If you're looking at that, you're like If you're getting this way, I don't think you're gonna get it every night.
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Obviously, the competition is gonna be better as well, but he's in a position where yeah, he's gotta earn his minutes and he's gotta earn his spot on the team.
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It's not 12 4010 anymore when he's in the heyday of his career.
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So I think what he's bringing to the table and I mean, you saw javale, you're gonna get the good in the battle.
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You know, he had one terrible turn over there in the third quarter where he's trying to be this guy off the dribble, and I think that with Dwight, they kind of bring it's similar, but different if you know what I mean and what they bring to the team.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Javale and white.
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They they both have that same role they're gonna crash the rim there, right? They're gonna rebound the ball a crazy.
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They're gonna run the floor a little bit.
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They're going to catch and dunk, and they're not gonna be stepping out behind the three point line.
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Except for tonight were driven attack in a situation where he had no other option.
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And so he shot the three, and you made it.
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But these are guys who are going to be rim protectors.
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They're gonna be defenders.
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They're going to rebound.
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And they're not gonna cry for post touches.
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Right, Dwight? Howard, you're not gonna cry for post touches.
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We don't want you.
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Well, you might want to go home at the end of the day, but he doing in front of team, right? Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's not doing in front of team right now.
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He's ah, he's gonna be Well, look, maybe with the six assists he's gonna be saying, See, I could be ah, skilled passing things.
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I'm the neighbor.
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Next.
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Yokich? Uh, no, no, that's not gonna work out for Dwight.
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Let's jump into some of the comments and things that we've seen here.
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By the way.
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Guys, I I'm trying out this new feature here where we can actually see all your comments on the screen popping up from different places, whether it's periscope or Facebook or or wherever, UH, a purple and gold 23 from Periscopes, that Peacock should watch Bremen Green highlights.
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Are you getting that comparison? Because he was another guy that stood out to me tonight? I wasn't that impressed with him and some early, but it seemed like in this game and in the replacement games he's you want to see from guys that at this point of the preseason right now, you know your horses are gonna be bubbling over your top 67 guys are.
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But with with guys like a cock, it's all right.
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Let's see a little bit of a glimmer of hope that again.
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Like I said, if the injury bug does hit this team and they're stuck with a few guys being out, it's like we can bring up some of these guys and we could hopefully play them some meaningful minutes in the regular season.
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Whether that's on a night on the load management like from LeBron or you're getting struggling from from from some of their backcourt guys, which I think we're gonna end up seeing.
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Yeah.
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I mean, you never know when you're gonna need somebody to fill in.
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Look, that's how the Lakers wound up with Alex Caruso was last season, loves the ball, got hurt.
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They needed that point guard.
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He gets thrown in, goes off, goes ballistic shoots 40% from three.
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Next thing you know, he's got a real guaranteed eh? NBA contract.
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Sometimes you need to turn to these Geely guys, these two way players that you've got Zach Norville being one of them on.
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And look, if you do, it's nice to know that you've got those guys there that can contribute.
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Even if they only come in for 5 10 minutes like you're mentioning, it's nice to be able to turn to those guys.
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Uh, I'm seeing a ton of comments about K C.
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P fact at, uh, later Winslow late Winslow said KCP looks like he has zero b ball like you.
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Another person said KCP weighed like trash.
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KCP takes the brunt of Lakers fury and we've seen the last few years Lakers hands, fury.
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Uh, what was your take on him? Wouldst out.
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Look out Look like for him moving forward? Well, my hairline started to stand up in a little bit, so I don't want to start pulling it out too much.
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But I mean, when I'm watching him, that that's what I want to do, I I don't I mean, I get the fact that KCP he's an N b A player in the sense that he'll probably have another 456 years.
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Whatever left, you'll have a long career in the league but tohave him on your own team, especially the team that has championship aspirations.
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It's frustrating.
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It's too much up and down.
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It's like you'll do for terrible things.
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One good one like you have that steel and break away lay in there and it's like, Wow, okay, we could see a flash from him at that point, but from the rest of it, you're just too inconsistent.
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And you were mentioning this to like, Nor Bella or KCP.
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It's like if Nobel keeps playing that way, that easy makes KCP expendable at some point.
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Don't you think it could? I mean, look, we've I've been thinking KCP was expendable the last two summers, right? And the Lakers recited both times, So I can't say that he's definitely expendable or anything like that.
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I think that he's he's an okay, eh? NBA player.
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He's an average NBA player.
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He's not gonna win you a ton of games, but hopefully the whole you know, you're hoping that he's not gonna hurt you too much, either.
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He knocked in a couple of threes.
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He did finish on a lob.
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I think he's a little bit more athletic than sometimes we give him credit for, but at the same time you see him get get out.
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Rebounded by Steph Curry, Right? Steph Curry just grabs.
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Come on, rebound over, then puts it back.
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This is curry for crying out loud and then it step blocks his shot.
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That's the kind of state of the drives Lakers fans crazy because KCP should be be better than that.
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And sometimes she just doesn't show up.
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But this is a very veteran, heavy team.
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KCP is a better and veterans help you win games right now, so I think that's definitely a factor.
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That's why I don't see the normal thing actually happening.
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He's gonna have to drastically outplay KCP to unseat a veteran at this point on a team with LeBron James and Anthony Davis that needs to win games right here, right now, Yeah, I go with you 100%.
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And that's where that's where I think.
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You know, If Nobel is doing that for half of the embassies and explain that well in the D League, it's like at that point they'll give him a look.
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But I mean, when you're when you're looking at the bottom of the roster, trouble right like that to me is a concerning point.
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I think for the Lakers right now, and I don't make a big deal of it cause it's preseason games don't really matter.
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But when you're looking at the roster.
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It's like, Okay, whatever happens with with Cosmo's health and how if he misses, you know, any stretch of the regular season.
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So where you gonna get points from? From from that from that backboard and offensively that that's something I'm looking at him like.
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It doesn't look like a very creative or I look like too much of a dynamic bunch.
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So it's like You gotta hope one of those guys And you mentioned Quinn Cook earlier today by Texas.
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Well, it's what we need to see one of these guys to be able to contribute.
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Whether that's 10 12 8 point tonight, whatever it is, I just don't know who that's gonna be.
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No, and that's a great point right now.
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Nobody has really seized the bull by the horns and taking control of the backward positions.
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Danny Green.
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We can assume Look, he's making $15 million.
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He's not making that to come off the bench.
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We can assume he's gonna be the starting to JaVale McGee, I think, has cleared.
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Look, Dwight had a great night tonight, but I think over the course of the preseason it's been very, very clear that JaVale McGee is the better center between the two.
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Yeah, so I think he's gonna be the starting five.
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LeBron James.
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Anthony Davis.
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Also both in there.
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But then who does that other spot go to? Okay, we just heard today Kyle Kuzma has been cleared for noncontact drills of practice, so that's a good thing.
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But that doesn't tell me he's ready to go opening night or not.
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Hopefully he will be.
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But in any event, I don't like going out there and starting him.
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And even if he was healthy, you you could make an argument that you're better off bring him off the bench anyway.
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So who is in that starting job? Is it Raj on Rondo? All right, on.
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Look, I have nothing against Rondo, but I hope not.
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Is it? Alex Caruso doesn't seem to be going that way.
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Is it Avery Bradley who they turn to in that spot? I just I don't feel like anybody has really seized the opportunity to say this is my spot.
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I'm the starter and I don't Maybe that happens over the next couple of games here against the Warriors, but up to this point, it's still a big, big question, mark.
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Yeah, that's that's where I think the boogie Boogie injury is really impacting them. Mary.
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Now, at this point is with what we saw, what happened with him.
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I mean, obviously being out now, most likely for the year when you when you look at him, he was gonna be kind of that third stabilizing guy on the offensive, like okay at LeBron, maybe out or eighties resting and or they're struggling.
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They looked sluggish.
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We could go to boogie to kind of run things to the offense through.
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And so when you mentioned Kyle Kuzma, we don't know what the hell I think I'll accuse me is so vital now to this team success.
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Right? And you're looking at I know again, and I'm gonna harp on this a little bit, but I know it still pre season, you know what I mean? And a lot of people you're not gonna make a big deal about it.
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But when you just look at what these guys are in the skill set that they have that's going to be concerning for me.
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That all right, man? Where you gonna go for a bucket when the second units out? there like who can you rely on? Consistent? And that's where I think KCP Although he misses a hell of a lot more shots than he takes.
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You know, we could say that.
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But he's one of those guys was capable.
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May be scoring 15 18 points in a winning and make a difference in winning a close game. Yeah, he could.
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I mean, he can from time to time when he gets hot and we've seen.
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Look, there's there's a good KCP and there's a bad case of B and we saw the bad KCP the beginning of the season.
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Last year, he turned into good KCP once the Lakers were already out of the playoffs, and that we want to get.
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That was frustrating, but But there is a version of good KCP.
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We didn't see that tonight, but he does have, ah better part of his game that we didn't see.
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You know, the other guy that I'm getting a ton of comments about.
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And here Jonathan Morales says, What do you think about Johannes? Is little bro I'm seeing like probably right now, I would guess 30 to 40% of our comments coming in whether It's from Facebook, whether it's from periscope, where that's from whatever are asking about Costa's onto Coop.
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Oh, what do you think about him? I've been pretty impressed.
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Another guy on the two way contract, Uh, I don't think he's gonna live up to what his brother's doing anything like that.
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Maybe the Lakers found another solid player here.
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Yeah, that's it.
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That's what you're hoping to do when you sign these guys, right? You're trying to bring him in to go to the GV, develop a little bit for a couple of seasons and then see them kind of prospering and develop into into guys were at least be in your rotation.
00:16:11
And what I'm seeing from Antony Combo is again athlete, super raw, right? He has a lot to work on it just in terms of the little stuff in his game and the skill in that, that kind of stuff just figuring out the smarts and were to be defensively.
00:16:23
But I mean, again, you're looking for potential and you're looking at if you can't afford the Lakers tickets self great Lakers not a bad option to go check out this season.
00:16:30
Right now, there's reason for optimism.
00:16:32
Yeah, I made that comment on Twitter.
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I mean, look, you've got you've got David Stockton.
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You've got Give Kay cock you've got onto to Coop.
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Oh, you've got Zach Norville.
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All of these guys that are really solid.
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And they've been a lot of fun to watch here, and I'm talking about going against N b A Guys The D League.
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They play at warp speed like the Lakers played fast last season. The D League.
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They fly up and down the floor like crazy.
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It's nuts.
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And, uh so I can only imagine how fun it's gonna be watching those guys playing, dealing it.
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And I know we wouldn't.
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We see Costa's and I've seen the comments coming in.
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People say no.
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He should be getting minutes with the Lakers and Zach Norville.
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Sure, beginning minutes with the Lakers.
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I think there's gonna be a lot of South Bay Lakers minutes coming for those guys, but that gives you even more incentive to tune in and check these guys out because, you know, before we know it, they could be up with the Lakers.
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I'm not ready to say they're they're ready to go yet.
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But Costas interested Interest me.
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He's big.
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He's ranging he can do a lot of things that you like.
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So, um, another good find for the Lakers on the from the South Bay side? Yeah, they're picking these guys up dirt cheap.
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And And when you look at it with the team in this Italian cat position that it's going to be in for the next new seeds and then obviously not having many, many draft picks to as a result of the trade, you got it.
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You're trying to hit home runs with those guys, right? And I'm bringing him in.
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So I think that's where where I know some of the commenters again.
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And I think people get caught up in what you're seeing.
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You remember who they're playing against running around against Steph Curry all night and D'Angelo Russell all night and dream on green all night.
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They're just kind of, you know, they're playing against the other team's Julie guys as well.
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So when you look at it, if one of the night, that's why I was mentioning about nor belt like if he was going, if he goes down to the TV and he still ended up and he's doing what he was doing today on the offense event and killing it in that league.
00:18:10
Yeah, you would have to almost force.
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He's forcing you to give him a shot at some point it with the team.
00:18:14
Yeah, yeah, at one point a damn point.
00:18:16
They're going to play well enough to where you have to keep them on the floor and you have to give him that opportunity.
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And that's what Alex Caruso did last season.
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And that's again.
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Something that that the Lakers have have done well of us is allowing these guys to get these opportunities.
00:18:29
Part of that's because of injury issues that allowed them to do that, Uh, at Daniel Day.
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No party.
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A junior on Facebook, that is.
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Koos ready to go opening night? I'm optimistic.
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Cautiously.
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Often, now he's gonna have to go through a process.
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He's got non contract contact drills.
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He's got to do some one on one contact drills and three on three eventually progressed to five on five.
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But we've got a week.
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I think it's possible that he plays a, but I'm not expecting a ton of minutes, but I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility for him to play on on a Tuesday night against the Clippers.
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And I'll say this.
00:19:01
I think he changes their team a lot, and ah, just You kind of alluded to it earlier with him out there.
00:19:07
You kind of you've got that missing piece because right now the Lakers have so many guards, and that could be a challenge.
00:19:13
We saw it against the Nets.
00:19:14
When you've got, like, KCP trying to close out on a guy like John and Moosa six foot nine, that doesn't really work, it's a It's a much more difficult shot when you've got a guy who's 6869 himself, like Koosman closing out.
00:19:26
And so I think he's gonna be really important for the team this season and they gotta get him back, get him healthy.
00:19:32
Yeah, I think that's it.
00:19:33
That's the main.
00:19:34
That's the main element right now is if you look at it and you say with this guy we want don't rush it back, you know what I mean.
00:19:40
I'm sure if it was playoffs, you would probably be playing next Tuesday, right, because it's Game one of 82.
00:19:45
I think you gotta maybe even look at giving them another extra weakling like you mentioned.
00:19:49
Even if he does come back.
00:19:50
What are you looking at? 15 minutes maximum.
00:19:52
Because you're not gonna be in the condition level of the rest of the guys out there, so I wouldn't rush it back with him.
00:19:56
I say, Take your time, take.
00:19:58
You know, even if it's an extra week or so and get back to being helped because And I've mentioned this before, uh, you know, what I've talked about it on this show is that you look at the Lakers schedule.
00:20:07
Those 1st 20 games are against teams who are not guaranteed to be in the playoffs.
00:20:12
They're finished playoff teams.
00:20:13
But after that, after that Utah game, like they go a bit on a stretch, I think it's 18 games or so up until December 2nd.
00:20:19
I believe it is when they played Denver that you're like, Okay, those are those are some winnable games.
00:20:22
They're so again, nothing is easy in the n b A.
00:20:24
So I wouldn't look at Russian codes back at this point. No.
00:20:27
Yeah, but I mean the same token.
00:20:29
They have to get off to a good start because that that you've got you've got a fat up your your ah, your record right now, early in the season while the Lakers have these winnable games because there are gonna be some lean times coming in November and December, There's gonna be some tough stretches, and that's where you've got a kind of buffer.
00:20:45
That's what the Lakers didn't do well last year was was buffer their their win loss record by feasting on the bad teams.
00:20:51
They found ways to lose to the really bad team.
00:20:53
So then when they didn't come out and have huge upsets over the good teams, then there really in trouble.
00:20:58
So you're supposed to you have to beat the teams you're supposed to be.
00:21:01
And so I do think, Well, yes, health is critical for Cruise, but I do think they also need to get him out there as quickly as they can see.
00:21:10
I'm not holding out any extra games or anything like that.
00:21:12
Well, that's what I'm saying.
00:21:13
I'm saying Don't rush it when he's fully ready.
00:21:15
Like if he's if you're only gonna play in 10 12 minutes on night one and you can you know, you could get him up to 20.
00:21:19
Bye bye.
00:21:20
Game number to wait.
00:21:21
You know, if the extra couple days are gonna help in practice.
00:21:23
So I mean, I agree with you.
00:21:24
I wouldn't want to rush it to the point that he, uh, that he is gonna get hurt again.
00:21:29
And I believe it was a stress factor in its foot two.
00:21:31
And those are Those are messy, You know what I mean? In terms of re occurring.
00:21:35
And if you keep doing that So that's all I'm saying is make sure he's 100% help because you would rather him play for 79 games rather than you know what it means.
00:21:41
60 or whatever it is. Exactly.
00:21:43
Yeah.
00:21:44
And I think that's where it's important.
00:21:46
Um Mandy Mull taani from Facebook said Who should be the Lakers starting point guard.
00:21:51
So let's bring it back to that conversation there.
00:21:53
I mentioned that nobody's really kind of taken over that role if you had to pick somebody right now, we said we're going to set the lineup for the opening night regular season against the Clippers.
00:22:03
Who is that fifth starter for the Lakers drumroll please.
00:22:07
I'm gonna go with LeBron James at the point guard. I'm just getting that.
00:22:11
That's what I would start at the one.
00:22:12
But the fifth guy at this point, I go it with Bradley.
00:22:16
I just think what his skill set is, and you need somebody who's a bit of a defender and you have LeBron out there.
00:22:21
Who is your playmaker? 80 can also be a playmaker.
00:22:24
And then you got your shooter.
00:22:25
Where? Danny Green.
00:22:26
So I don't think that I don't think that the Lakers have any night you mentioned.
00:22:29
None of these guys have really stepped up and been like, I'm the guy who's gonna take that spot.
00:22:32
I mean, Caruso, too, from 19 over his last two games, I think he's forcing it a bit so that I don't think he was gonna be a starter anyways.
00:22:38
But for May, I'm gonna roll with every Bradley.
00:22:41
What about you? I agree.
00:22:42
I'm hesitant because I liked so much of what we've seen defensively.
00:22:45
I think he can be a little bit over aggressive on the defensive end, picks up some cheap fouls that way.
00:22:50
But I'll take that mindset.
00:22:51
What? That guy coming out there that is going to get the rest of the team fired up about playing defense.
00:22:56
It's easy to get excited about playing offense.
00:22:58
I want that guy that's gonna get everybody locked in on the defensive end.
00:23:01
I think it's a focal point for Lakers this year, so I go Avery Bradley.
00:23:04
But I haven't really enjoyed his shooting so far.
00:23:07
He hasn't been great, but I don't know if he's even hit a three so far in preseason small sample size.
00:23:13
But I think that he needs to get that three point shot to come around on the offensive end.
00:23:17
So he's at least a threat out there.
00:23:18
But on the defensive side of the ball, I really, really like that.
00:23:22
Danny Green Avery Bradley pairing on the perimeter.
00:23:25
I think they close out well on defender on the shooters and then on the inside. You've got travail.
00:23:30
You've got a D.
00:23:31
Those air just trees and they're blocking everything at the rim.
00:23:34
Plus, LeBron James, Not a small dude.
00:23:36
I like the defensive built potential that starting five.
00:23:38
So I'm right there with you, Jess.
00:23:40
Yeah, Yeah, I I just think you the easy choice.
00:23:42
I don't want to see Rondo play starting minutes and playing with those guys.
00:23:45
I thinkit's just a weird mix with him out there with having LeBron and 80.
00:23:50
So that's why for me again, and you need that defensive problems from somebody, cause LeBron doesn't play much defense anymore.
00:23:55
So other than Danny Green, you do somebody else out there who are getting good, he hasnt better.
00:23:59
But you'll know what over the 80 to you stepping up in the playoffs? Yeah, absolutely.
00:24:02
During the season.
00:24:03
I mean, I'm not expecting him to play every night like like M.
00:24:06
J did in terms of defensively, no, but I will say that he's put in more effort on the defensive end than we've seen in the past, and I'm wondering if some of that is he knows now.
00:24:15
He doesn't have to do all the heavy lifting on the offensive end.
00:24:18
A D can dio a decent amount of that, and so now he can spend a little bit more energy on defense.
00:24:23
Least that's what I'm hoping.
00:24:24
Plus, Davis has already had those comments about how he wants to hold everyone accountable in the defense event, including LeBron and all that So I think it's focal point, and I'm hoping that LeBron's defense will pick up from last.
00:24:35
He wasn't when he was bad.
00:24:37
It was like, glaringly bad where you could see he just wasn't putting in the effort.
00:24:41
And so maybe we overstate how bad his defense was.
00:24:43
I think he was just okay, but I think there's another level he can get to if he's not having to spend as much energy on offense.
00:24:50
Yeah, I I agree with you on that, and I think it'll be It'll be different for him this season because you're gonna have a guy like Anthony Davis there who's gonna isn't the leader on this team to right right up there with LeBron.
00:25:00
So if he's gonna hold these guys accountable, I think it was different for LeBron Last year were like you mentioned it was like the offense had to go through him and and would now like you, haven't you have another superstar with you? Hopefully that gives him a little bit more.
00:25:12
I don't want to see you can rest on offense, but a little bit more energy in terms of preserving that.
00:25:16
For the defense of that yeah, 100% at Keaton and a bunch of numbers it throws in Quinn Cook that we're forgetting about Quinn Cook, that we're not giving him a secret.
00:25:28
Well, of course we're forgetting about him because he hasn't played yet.
00:25:31
He hasn't floor.
00:25:32
He's been dealing with the calf issue, But we did here tonight.
00:25:34
It was on the broadcast.
00:25:36
Bill McDonald.
00:25:37
Awesome guy, By the way, Bill McDonald throughout their that Quinn Cook wants to play.
00:25:41
He's ready, But he just felt like he needed to get a little bit more practice before he was ready to get out there on the floor in a regular game situation.
00:25:49
So maybe we see him on Wednesday after the Lakers practice tomorrow, so that will be be something to watch.
00:25:55
Quinn Cook can get out there soon.
00:25:56
I don't think jazz, you know, I'm high on Quinn Cook.
00:25:59
Big time of the shooting ability is gonna be huge.
00:26:02
I don't think he's really in the conversation to be the starter right now, unless he comes out over the next few preseason games and just absolutely dominates turns into Damian Lillard or something like that, which that's not gonna happen.
00:26:13
But as a bench options.
00:26:14
Sure.
00:26:15
I'm definitely curious to see what he can bring.
00:26:17
Yes, I'm the same boat as you.
00:26:19
I liked what he bought with the, uh, with warriors last couple of seasons.
00:26:22
Excuse me.
00:26:23
Um, but when you look at his skill set and that's what we're talking about and that comment is kind of right, like he's one of the few guys who he has the capability to score 12 15 points in a game and hit those hit those big threes you did a couple of times in the finals, especially after Clay was gone.
00:26:39
I mean, I know it's a small sample size, but I've seen him play well enough with those guys, that all right? He brings that element so again, I mean, you mentioned that to nobody's really taking the bull by the horns out of those guys.
00:26:49
And if you can come in and do that, then you've been you're gonna have to give minutes, and I know it matters who starts.
00:26:53
But I also think in the n b A.
00:26:55
It's always more important who finishes the game.
00:26:56
And so you want your most trusted guy out of those five to be out there, maybe at the end, rather than in the beginning, too.
00:27:02
Yeah, and you know what Frank Vogel's in a good spot with? We've said, Yeah, no, no guard has really stepped up.
00:27:09
But he's also got that flexibility now because nobody has stepped up where if one player happens to Beehive, Quinn Cook, it comes out and he's shooting hot.
00:27:17
Great. He's the guy that plays down the stretch.
00:27:19
They were a few. Mondo is happening.
00:27:21
Thio have a great game.
00:27:22
He's the guy who plays her.
00:27:23
Caruso, Captain America.
00:27:24
Whoever right has that great game.
00:27:27
He could just go with the hot hand, and so that's a little bit of a luxury in its own right.
00:27:31
But Avery Bradley could get that as well.
00:27:34
Uh, let's see a few more questions here that we want to get into.
00:27:39
Uh oh.
00:27:40
Keaton is the same guys asking, Would you be the one or the two off the bench? I think that you can play either spot.
00:27:45
He could play the one organ, too, and you say the same thing about Alex Caruso.
00:27:50
Oh, my goodness, Jazz.
00:27:52
You won't even guess they actually, you probably will guess the comment that just popped up.
00:27:56
Carmelo? Yes.
00:27:58
Cover.
00:27:59
Yeah, perfectly. 23 sign.
00:28:02
Carmelo. Anthony.
00:28:04
Yeah, I want to get back into this We're talking about Who are you talking about this and write that as we've done this? Carmelo Anthony? No, Um, John Zarrella says, How about LeBron Coups 80? Javale and Howard line up all the Biggs on the floor.
00:28:19
Just get all of the rebounds.
00:28:22
Yeah, you know what? I don't think we're going to see it, but that would be a pretty hard rebound.
00:28:26
Pretty hard team to stop on the offensive glass to unite.
00:28:29
And 80 was maybe fast enough to guard the three.
00:28:32
You could maybe go with something on today's MBA.
00:28:33
So that's not gonna work.
00:28:35
Steph Curry would be like, Thank you.
00:28:36
He'd be shooting all along the threes and nobody's been able to change us.
00:28:39
Chase him around.
00:28:41
I've noticed this, too, about about the Lakers.
00:28:43
And I think this is Frank Vogel's defensive scheme.
00:28:45
They're not switching at all, even the onboard.
00:28:47
So they're not planning on doing that.
00:28:48
So it'll be interesting to see depending on the matchup.
00:28:50
If they might change that strategy at some point pending on the team they're playing against.
00:28:54
You know, I'm glad you brought up the defense because that was the one thing that I thought.
00:28:57
It waned a little bit the second quarter and throughout the game, as the lineup kept getting rotated.
00:29:02
But to start the game, I thought they did really well, the defensive end.
00:29:05
They did the same thing against the Nets last last outing.
00:29:08
They played well on defense.
00:29:09
You saw these guys competing on every single possession.
00:29:12
They were closing out on shooters.
00:29:14
They were making the right reads.
00:29:15
And I think that's a credit to Frank Vogel.
00:29:17
I think, Look, getting beat by the Nets twice in China.
00:29:20
I don't think that's indicative of the true defensive potential of this team, because I look it.
00:29:24
I look at what they had the beginning of games when you've got a regular rotation in there and I see the way that they played.
00:29:30
I'm seeing some really good things, some positive signs about the way that they are.
00:29:34
They're reacting out on the court, so I'm really interested to see what they're gonna look like defensively on opening night.
00:29:41
Yeah, and you know what? They're definitely not I mean in preseason.
00:29:44
You don't show everything you're doing, right.
00:29:45
I mean, you're you're trying to get down the fundamentals in the basics of the defensive kind of strategy and the offensive system you're running.
00:29:51
But you don't want to show everything right away because obviously teams will have more tape on you, and it's not like it's a big secret what teams are going to do eventually.
00:29:57
But I think right now we're gonna see some more.
00:30:00
And I hope Frank Vogel does do that.
00:30:01
Adjust his game plan depending on the opponent.
00:30:03
And I think you have enough versatility in the lineup in terms of especially offensively and you got so much top and talent with LeBron and A D.
00:30:09
So I do want to see them switch that switch that around.
00:30:12
But I like what I like doing defensively in terms of the scheme.
00:30:15
I just don't know if it'll work against teams like Houston and those guys were.
00:30:19
You're leaving the big guy right by the group all the time.
00:30:21
I think that might be tough, but again, it's dependent on what we'll see in the regular season.
00:30:24
Yeah, yeah, and look, I think the Vogel he's got a strong enough coaching staff to where he can make tweaks as they go along.
00:30:31
But right now I think we're seeing some good things.
00:30:33
Ah, Andrew Davis is asking, Will e g.
00:30:34
B bought out by Memphis? Well, the word from a dream Oh, Janowski from a couple of days ago was that if and when he does get bought out, it's going to be the Lakers or the Clippers, he's gonna goto one into L. A teams.
00:30:45
And I mentioned this on the preview show that I did over on sportscaster um before the Lakers Warriors game.
00:30:52
It's going if it comes down to Lakers versus Clippers.
00:30:56
If it goes to the Clippers, I don't think he's gonna play all that much.
00:31:00
I think they've got too many things already in front of.
00:31:02
I think the Clippers, going after Iguodala, is just trying to stop the Lakers from getting well.
00:31:07
I think if the Lakers give Iguodala, there's a real role for him and he gets some real minutes there.
00:31:12
So I would hope that maybe this is my little bit of that.
00:31:15
He would always somehow here, but I hope that he's waving a guy like DeMarcus cousins or something like that.
00:31:23
I don't know exactly how they were the room just yet, but my hope would be that they could add him because I think you'd be a great fit.
00:31:30
He's exactly what we're talking about their missing, though, right? I mean, you know, I mean, he's not.
00:31:33
Don't get me wrong.
00:31:34
It's like a dollar with younger years, Especially with the Pistons and stuff.
00:31:37
Yeah, he's value could score 18 to 22 a night.
00:31:39
I mean, he still has the potential to hit some big shots.
00:31:41
We saw him do that a ton during his time with lawyers, and he is a bit of an offensive playmaker, too.
00:31:46
So I agree with you.
00:31:47
I mean, I don't know where the fit would be if he goes to the Clippers like you're gonna have.
00:31:50
Kawai may be the primary ball handler, but you're PG and Andrea Goodell out there a past Patrick Beverley.
00:31:57
I agree with you.
00:31:58
I don't know how much he's gonna get to play, but like you mentioned, man, I just think it's a It's a power move by the by the Clippers, and we just don't want him going across the hall to the Lakers, whereas I think if he looked at it objectively, he's got to say the Lakers are the better option for me in terms of if I want to get minutes and whatnot.
00:32:11
Yeah, for sure.
00:32:12
I mean, look, if he if he wants minutes, if you want to play a real role I think the Lakers are the clear option because they're the team that has a definite need as a for a backup small forward.
00:32:21
He needs that.
00:32:22
They need that.
00:32:23
They that's that's what they need on their team right now.
00:32:26
Miguel Arroyo throughout.
00:32:27
Trade KCP for a bag of chips at this point, which, Yeah, it's, uh, is where people that I get it.
00:32:33
People aren't happy with Casey, I think your DCP game.
00:32:38
I think the Lakers might have to throw in a second round pick with that in order to get that trade.
00:32:42
So they've gotta add an asset and they don't have your fix.
00:32:47
Now they get TJ.
00:32:49
You're really as Dwight or McGee.
00:32:51
Who would you start? I think we're unanimous.
00:32:53
There. We would definitely be starting. Javale mcgee.
00:32:56
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I'm sure it's gonna be.
00:32:58
It's gonna be JaVale at this point.
00:33:00
Let's wrap up with this. Yes.
00:33:03
So, Anthony Davis, LeBron James, the duo.
00:33:08
What are you hoping to see out of the two of them? Because we spent so much time and we did this last season to talking about kind of the peripheral guys because those are the guys.
00:33:16
We're not sure if they're going to make it.
00:33:18
We don't know if they're gonna be there, what they can bring and everything.
00:33:20
It's almost like we already kind of know what Anthony Davis LeBron James do.
00:33:24
But as a pairing, what are you looking for from them as that kind of 12 punch? I just think they got to develop something that is going to work all the time.
00:33:34
Offensively, you know where and when I say work.
00:33:36
I mean, you're getting a good shot out of it and mean at the end of the game, whether it's running a pick and roll and figuring out if you want to do ah traditional.
00:33:43
But he's setting the pick on the top left top top right? Or he's setting it like a flat screen on the defenders back, you know, But figure out something that works between you two.
00:33:51
That's that's killing your guys in practice and try and use that in a way that, you know.
00:33:55
Well, this is our go to the top some 0.
00:34:01
80 you know, wherever it is, I just think I gotta figure out something between them, the chemistry on the offensive end.
00:34:06
I think it's gonna be really key for those two because we saw between and I think that they're different in their in their mind set and also different players.
00:34:12
But we went through that with Kobe and Dwight, were like, It's gonna be a natural fit and they're gonna be good.
00:34:17
And I do think that LeBron and 80 are just smarter players than Dwight.
00:34:20
No matter what, maybe not a selfish is Kobe and you know what I mean? Like, but I do think that those teams are that this team really needs those two to gel right from the start, like you mentioned, get some of those easier winds as the season gets harder going into December and January.
00:34:33
Well, that's a great point.
00:34:34
And our friend Eric Pink it's actually just had a piece for bleacher report where He made that comparison as well.
00:34:39
The Kobe Dwight dynamic versus the LeBron and A D dynamic.
00:34:43
And I mean, Kobe and Dwight were on the court.
00:34:46
You would think they should fit personality.
00:34:49
Wise off, they're told they're complete opposites.
00:34:52
Okay, It's almost like Kobe Shack all over again, except Kobe's in that kind of Alfa rule already.
00:34:58
And then Dwight came in and it was just It wasn't a good fit.
00:35:01
They did.
00:35:02
They weren't on the same page, whereas so they weren't. There were friends.
00:35:05
They were buddies. They hang out anything like that.
00:35:07
LeBron and a D r legitimately for LeBron, try to give him his number.
00:35:11
I mean, LeBron with management, tried to tell Tell the Lakers they need to run the offense through Anthony Davis.
00:35:16
LeBron has done everything he can to be welcoming.
00:35:18
They share an agent with Rich Paul.
00:35:20
I think it's a different dynamic there and I think that's going to help on the floor, their personalities being a little bit more similar.
00:35:27
I think that's definitely gonna be a big help.
00:35:28
But yeah, they're both so skilled and so versatile that I have to think it's gonna work and I can't wait to see, like you mentioned, they need something unstoppable.
00:35:36
I think it's ultimately gonna be that LeBron a d pick and roll And I can't wait to see when they really get that thing dialed.
00:35:43
It's gonna take time.
00:35:44
But once they get that really dialed in and you've got like like Dana Reeve has your spot up shooter across the cord and and you've got all the spacing you need, everything that could be absolutely deadly.
00:35:55
Yeah, And then that's where I'm looking at it, too.
00:35:57
And you mentioned how LeBron is saying that.
00:35:59
Hey, you know, we, uh I want to run the offense for a D and he's gonna be the primary dude we saw that happen with Dwayne, Wade and LeBron, especially in 2011 finals with it, where they lost to the Mavericks.
00:36:09
Although Chris Bosh falling in the tunnel is still one of the funniest things that came from that from that Siri's.
00:36:14
But the following year, you kind of saw Dwyane Wade take a little bit of a back seat to LeBron and LeBron credit to him.
00:36:19
Maybe saying it a year early, like all right, screw it.
00:36:21
We're not gonna go through chemistry issues.
00:36:22
I don't mind being the 11 be here compared to eighties one. A.
00:36:26
So, like you mentioned, get that down and get that down pretty quick.
00:36:29
And then I think everything else will fall into place in terms of defensively and figure out rotations that where guys are stronger or not.
00:36:34
I think the offense event is gonna be really key.
00:36:37
And that is one thing I liked about Frank Vogel system today.
00:36:39
They're setting a lot of stagger screens at the top.
00:36:41
There was a lot of movement compared to what we saw from Loop last year.
00:36:43
Yeah, that's a good point.
00:36:45
There is. There is.
00:36:46
There was a lot of movement.
00:36:47
There was a lot of stagnation against the Nets.
00:36:49
And so this is something that where they have been fixing things, Obviously, they've been working on things, so that's a That's definitely a good sign.
00:36:55
And if you see that in an offense in addition to the defense of potential, then you know the ceiling could be pretty high for this group.
00:37:02
Obviously, fans are hoping championship.
00:37:03
I don't know if I'm ready to go there just yet, but I think they've got some interesting pieces here to where would your building round? LeBron Any d and you've got all these other guys that are ready to fall in line and they know their role.
00:37:16
Then you've got a recipe for what? Something that could be pretty special.
00:37:19
I mean, that was one of the issues last season.
00:37:21
I mean, it was LeBron was the guy, But then after that, what's what is it? Is Lonzo running the show? Is it Is Brandon in Groom going to be a slasher, or is he going to be a shooter from behind arc? What's Cosmo's roll? These guys just They didn't have the defined rules this season.
00:37:36
It's pretty clear whatever one's role on the team is, everybody knows exactly what they're supposed to do.
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And I think that's gonna help them out.
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And especially with two guys like LeBron and 82 kind of follow into battle.
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Yeah, you're right.
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And that's where that's where the fun part, I think with the MBA is this year's last year.
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I think everybody knew there was no championship happening where you're looking at it this year.
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Uh, you mentioned how you know all the teams air.
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They're all in the same place right now.
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We don't know who's gonna be good and and a championship contender in the MBA.
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I think it's gonna take us tell Game 50 to 60 to figure that out.
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So that's why I think it's so important to have two guys as smart and as great as LeBron and 80 kind of leading the organization.
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And that's where I think that if you get off to a you know 10 and 2 10 and three start, you're gonna have a little bit of separation from some of the other teams.
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Because we saw so many changes in the MBA in terms of where players are going and big names moved a lot.
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So it's gonna take teams time.
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And that's where I think these guys, I was gonna play, play a bit of a difference in this one.
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Yeah, hopefully they'll get off that quick start.
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We'll find out in just over a week if they're able to start things off with a win.
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Trevor Lane @LakersNation

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Hello, everybody.
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Welcome to the Lakers Nation postgame show.
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Your Los Angeles Lakers just picked up a big win over the Golden State Warriors.
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Well, big for preseason.
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Anyway, Way got to see some interesting things from the Lakers preseason team here.
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Look, LeBron didn't play.
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Anthony Davis didn't play.
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Rondo didn't play a lot of the key guys.
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We're out, but we still got to see some pretty exciting things going on in the world of Lakers basketball.
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Gutsy JaVale McGee hit a three javale make three.
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It has returned, but I think most important return is Jazz and I have returned the postgame show.
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We're starting a whole new season.
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We're trying out something's trying to send this to a lot of different sources.
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So we're still in preseason mode, getting ready for the regular season.
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But Jazz man, how are you doing? It's good to be back, I can tell you that.
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Oh, yeah, I'm excited to the preseason, even rolling right now.
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I'll admit I was only able to watch one of the China Game Club wasn't gonna wake up with 2nd 1 eh? So I'm glad that they're they're playing on normal Pacific time here and I'm able to enjoy it.
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And you know what it was? It was a fun game tonight, getting to see what Zach Norville Junior did get to see a little bit of David stocking and the hustle plays he made.
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So, um, just happy to be back.
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And I'm looking forward to the leakers, actually being a championship contender again.
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Yeah, for sure.
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I mean, look, the Lakers are finally back to being a contender.
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Status and Ah, look, if Edie and LeBron James can put everything together, then we're gonna be in for a big, big treat This season should be a ton of fun.
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Jazz.
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What was your take on the guys that Frank Vogel rested tonight? What did you think about that strategy? Was that a good plan here in preseason? Yeah.
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I don't think you wanna wear aware of the guys a little bit too much right now in the preseason coming back from China to it's obviously a very, very long flight and taxing in that sense.
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And I mean, the LeBron thing with Daryl Morey stuff in the tweet.
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So I think they kind of had their mind on other things, especially being there in China and having to deal with this in the preseason.
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So I thought it was a good move for him and see what you're getting out of some of these young guys.
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And if any of them have potential, the one they end up playing up with the Lakers instead of the self big eyes at some point this season.
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Yeah, I mean, look, it's good experience for all of them, right? It's It's a good opportunity for these guys to get in there and prove their worth.
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And I thought the guy who really stood out was was Zach Norval.
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I mean, he had a hell of a game.
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He was so impressive out there.
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I believe he led the team in scoring.
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Let me go ahead and pull that appear 2022 to 3 of eight from three mean six of 13 shooting, seven of eight fromthe line.
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I thought he had a fantastic performance.
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In fact, I even I was texting you, I said, nor velo ver kcp is that is that we were at at this point, I don't know if I'm ready to go that far, but but I think he outplayed him today.
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Yeah, I think we might have that discussion at some point during the season.
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And you're going to see Novell.
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Probably stop.
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Started off with the South.
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Were guys in the D League.
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And if he can play like this and continue to develop open, we all know he's undrafted.
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So it's not like he's been in the league.
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Are bouncing around for four or five years.
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And this was kind of like, Okay, is this guy gonna take? No, He's still young, still developing, and I think that that might be a valid case if he's playing like this when he's playing with self A What about you? Yeah.
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I mean, look, if he can keep this up, then maybe you can get some more minutes for Zach nor Bella in the lineup.
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Now again, it's one game, and the Lakers are very veteran, heavy team.
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And so you can't say, Oh, look, one game or novella clearly better than KCP.
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Get rid of KCP, threw him on the end of the bench and just put and just put your belly in there.
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Start him starting over.
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Danny.
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Yeah, we're not at that point.
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But he did have a Greek aiming for a guy who was undrafted.
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These are the kinds of steals the Lakers have to find.
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They've got to find players like this.
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They're not gonna have many draft picks moving forward.
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So if you can find a guy that you can legitimately play and that's the way Zach Norville seems to be trending right now, then this is a big, big win for the Lakers.
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Now again, we don't want to get too far ahead of ourselves.
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But I liked what I saw from him.
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Yes, it's in here just a being aggressive and being, ah, you know, looking to score.
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And I think that was something that, um I've been concerned about what the Lakers in terms of the bottom and depth of their of their guard play, who's gonna be able to produce some points for these guys here.
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So when you when you're looking at what he did out there, just being aggressive and I love it shall always love the way left handed players Look, I don't know why when they're when they're shooting jumpers says as a lot of player, I will take the compliment just Yes, I'm light headed that way.
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I think it looks smooth and stuff in and just seeing him being able to contribute that way and kind of taking over offensive possessions.
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I think that gives him some some hope going forward for sure, 100%.
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Yeah, gives him gives him that confidence.
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I thought he's the kind of guy who plays under control for the most part, he makes some rookie mistakes here and there.
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But for the most part, this guy's plays under control plays a very smooth, very calm game.
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And so I really liked that.
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Um, the other thing that really stood out to me was Dwight Howard.
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What it's like this is his reintroduction.
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The Lakers fans his first game back in Los Angeles, in front of the hometown crowd, and so he's kind of gotta heal those wounds, and I thought he went a long way towards doing that.
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Tonight, When you look at what he put up, I mean impressive for a guy that's that's done, the things that Dwight is done right in his career.
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This guy's a Hall of Fame player, three time defensive player of the year to be in a preseason game you could see where he would kind of coast a little bit.
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Be like, This is kind of beneath me.
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No, we didn't see that at all from Dwight, though.
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He went out there, he played hard.
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He hustled 13 boards, four steals, one block, 12 points and I don't know which is more surprising, the eight of 10 from the free throw line or the six assists.
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But either one of those you would ever expect to get that from Dwight Howard.
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And yet here he is.
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He had a great performance.
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I gotta admit, I'm not a fan of his hair.
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That's one thing I don't like about Dwight right now.
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Let the plain below what he's bringing.
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I'm not.
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I'm not a fan of it.
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I think big men don't look good like that, You know what I mean? I mean, you could have just I don't like the look, but I mean, he looks lean and he's looking jacket stuff like that.
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But, um, what he's bringing to the table, what he's done all preseason is showing that he could still rebound and that was something Lakers and people were kind of looking at, like okay, is a team gonna be able to get like enough rebounding before they signed him? And I think he addressed that as a huge need to it with what he's going to do on the glass of the guy's just a machine around.
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They're swallowing everything up.
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If you're looking at that, you're like If you're getting this way, I don't think you're gonna get it every night.
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Obviously, the competition is gonna be better as well, but he's in a position where yeah, he's gotta earn his minutes and he's gotta earn his spot on the team.
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It's not 12 4010 anymore when he's in the heyday of his career.
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So I think what he's bringing to the table and I mean, you saw javale, you're gonna get the good in the battle.
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You know, he had one terrible turn over there in the third quarter where he's trying to be this guy off the dribble, and I think that with Dwight, they kind of bring it's similar, but different if you know what I mean and what they bring to the team.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Javale and white.
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They they both have that same role they're gonna crash the rim there, right? They're gonna rebound the ball a crazy.
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They're gonna run the floor a little bit.
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They're going to catch and dunk, and they're not gonna be stepping out behind the three point line.
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Except for tonight were driven attack in a situation where he had no other option.
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And so he shot the three, and you made it.
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But these are guys who are going to be rim protectors.
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They're gonna be defenders.
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They're going to rebound.
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And they're not gonna cry for post touches.
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Right, Dwight? Howard, you're not gonna cry for post touches.
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We don't want you.
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Well, you might want to go home at the end of the day, but he doing in front of team, right? Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's not doing in front of team right now.
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He's ah, he's gonna be Well, look, maybe with the six assists he's gonna be saying, See, I could be ah, skilled passing things.
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I'm the neighbor.
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Next.
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Yokich? Uh, no, no, that's not gonna work out for Dwight.
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Let's jump into some of the comments and things that we've seen here.
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By the way.
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Guys, I I'm trying out this new feature here where we can actually see all your comments on the screen popping up from different places, whether it's periscope or Facebook or or wherever, UH, a purple and gold 23 from Periscopes, that Peacock should watch Bremen Green highlights.
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Are you getting that comparison? Because he was another guy that stood out to me tonight? I wasn't that impressed with him and some early, but it seemed like in this game and in the replacement games he's you want to see from guys that at this point of the preseason right now, you know your horses are gonna be bubbling over your top 67 guys are.
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But with with guys like a cock, it's all right.
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Let's see a little bit of a glimmer of hope that again.
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Like I said, if the injury bug does hit this team and they're stuck with a few guys being out, it's like we can bring up some of these guys and we could hopefully play them some meaningful minutes in the regular season.
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Whether that's on a night on the load management like from LeBron or you're getting struggling from from from some of their backcourt guys, which I think we're gonna end up seeing.
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Yeah.
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I mean, you never know when you're gonna need somebody to fill in.
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Look, that's how the Lakers wound up with Alex Caruso was last season, loves the ball, got hurt.
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They needed that point guard.
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He gets thrown in, goes off, goes ballistic shoots 40% from three.
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Next thing you know, he's got a real guaranteed eh? NBA contract.
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Sometimes you need to turn to these Geely guys, these two way players that you've got Zach Norville being one of them on.
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And look, if you do, it's nice to know that you've got those guys there that can contribute.
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Uh, I'm seeing a ton of comments about K C.
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P fact at, uh, later Winslow late Winslow said KCP looks like he has zero b ball like you.
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Another person said KCP weighed like trash.
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KCP takes the brunt of Lakers fury and we've seen the last few years Lakers hands, fury.
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Uh, what was your take on him? Wouldst out.
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Look out Look like for him moving forward? Well, my hairline started to stand up in a little bit, so I don't want to start pulling it out too much.
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But I mean, when I'm watching him, that that's what I want to do, I I don't I mean, I get the fact that KCP he's an N b A player in the sense that he'll probably have another 456 years.
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Whatever left, you'll have a long career in the league but tohave him on your own team, especially the team that has championship aspirations.
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It's frustrating.
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It's too much up and down.
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It's like you'll do for terrible things.
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One good one like you have that steel and break away lay in there and it's like, Wow, okay, we could see a flash from him at that point, but from the rest of it, you're just too inconsistent.
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And you were mentioning this to like, Nor Bella or KCP.
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It's like if Nobel keeps playing that way, that easy makes KCP expendable at some point.
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Don't you think it could? I mean, look, we've I've been thinking KCP was expendable the last two summers, right? And the Lakers recited both times, So I can't say that he's definitely expendable or anything like that.
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I think that he's he's an okay, eh? NBA player.
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He's an average NBA player.
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He's not gonna win you a ton of games, but hopefully the whole you know, you're hoping that he's not gonna hurt you too much, either.
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He knocked in a couple of threes.
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He did finish on a lob.
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I think he's a little bit more athletic than sometimes we give him credit for, but at the same time you see him get get out.
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Rebounded by Steph Curry, Right? Steph Curry just grabs.
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Come on, rebound over, then puts it back.
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This is curry for crying out loud and then it step blocks his shot.
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That's the kind of state of the drives Lakers fans crazy because KCP should be be better than that.
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And sometimes she just doesn't show up.
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But this is a very veteran, heavy team.
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KCP is a better and veterans help you win games right now, so I think that's definitely a factor.
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That's why I don't see the normal thing actually happening.
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He's gonna have to drastically outplay KCP to unseat a veteran at this point on a team with LeBron James and Anthony Davis that needs to win games right here, right now, Yeah, I go with you 100%.
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And that's where that's where I think.
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You know, If Nobel is doing that for half of the embassies and explain that well in the D League, it's like at that point they'll give him a look.
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But I mean, when you're when you're looking at the bottom of the roster, trouble right like that to me is a concerning point.
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I think for the Lakers right now, and I don't make a big deal of it cause it's preseason games don't really matter.
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But when you're looking at the roster.
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It's like, Okay, whatever happens with with Cosmo's health and how if he misses, you know, any stretch of the regular season.
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So where you gonna get points from? From from that from that backboard and offensively that that's something I'm looking at him like.
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It doesn't look like a very creative or I look like too much of a dynamic bunch.
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So it's like You gotta hope one of those guys And you mentioned Quinn Cook earlier today by Texas.
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Well, it's what we need to see one of these guys to be able to contribute.
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Whether that's 10 12 8 point tonight, whatever it is, I just don't know who that's gonna be.
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No, and that's a great point right now.
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Nobody has really seized the bull by the horns and taking control of the backward positions.
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Danny Green.
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We can assume Look, he's making $15 million.
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He's not making that to come off the bench.
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We can assume he's gonna be the starting to JaVale McGee, I think, has cleared.
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Look, Dwight had a great night tonight, but I think over the course of the preseason it's been very, very clear that JaVale McGee is the better center between the two.
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Yeah, so I think he's gonna be the starting five.
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LeBron James.
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Anthony Davis.
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Also both in there.
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But then who does that other spot go to? Okay, we just heard today Kyle Kuzma has been cleared for noncontact drills of practice, so that's a good thing.
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But that doesn't tell me he's ready to go opening night or not.
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Hopefully he will be.
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But in any event, I don't like going out there and starting him.
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And even if he was healthy, you you could make an argument that you're better off bring him off the bench anyway.
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So who is in that starting job? Is it Raj on Rondo? All right, on.
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Look, I have nothing against Rondo, but I hope not.
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Is it? Alex Caruso doesn't seem to be going that way.
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Is it Avery Bradley who they turn to in that spot? I just I don't feel like anybody has really seized the opportunity to say this is my spot.
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I'm the starter and I don't Maybe that happens over the next couple of games here against the Warriors, but up to this point, it's still a big, big question, mark.
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Yeah, that's that's where I think the boogie Boogie injury is really impacting them. Mary.
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Now, at this point is with what we saw, what happened with him.
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I mean, obviously being out now, most likely for the year when you when you look at him, he was gonna be kind of that third stabilizing guy on the offensive, like okay at LeBron, maybe out or eighties resting and or they're struggling.
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They looked sluggish.
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We could go to boogie to kind of run things to the offense through.
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And so when you mentioned Kyle Kuzma, we don't know what the hell I think I'll accuse me is so vital now to this team success.
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Right? And you're looking at I know again, and I'm gonna harp on this a little bit, but I know it still pre season, you know what I mean? And a lot of people you're not gonna make a big deal about it.
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But when you just look at what these guys are in the skill set that they have that's going to be concerning for me.
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That all right, man? Where you gonna go for a bucket when the second units out? there like who can you rely on? Consistent? And that's where I think KCP Although he misses a hell of a lot more shots than he takes.
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You know, we could say that.
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But he's one of those guys was capable.
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May be scoring 15 18 points in a winning and make a difference in winning a close game. Yeah, he could.
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I mean, he can from time to time when he gets hot and we've seen.
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Look, there's there's a good KCP and there's a bad case of B and we saw the bad KCP the beginning of the season.
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Last year, he turned into good KCP once the Lakers were already out of the playoffs, and that we want to get.
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That was frustrating, but But there is a version of good KCP.
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We didn't see that tonight, but he does have, ah better part of his game that we didn't see.
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You know, the other guy that I'm getting a ton of comments about.
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And here Jonathan Morales says, What do you think about Johannes? Is little bro I'm seeing like probably right now, I would guess 30 to 40% of our comments coming in whether It's from Facebook, whether it's from periscope, where that's from whatever are asking about Costa's onto Coop.
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Oh, what do you think about him? I've been pretty impressed.
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Another guy on the two way contract, Uh, I don't think he's gonna live up to what his brother's doing anything like that.
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Maybe the Lakers found another solid player here.
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Yeah, that's it.
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That's what you're hoping to do when you sign these guys, right? You're trying to bring him in to go to the GV, develop a little bit for a couple of seasons and then see them kind of prospering and develop into into guys were at least be in your rotation.
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And what I'm seeing from Antony Combo is again athlete, super raw, right? He has a lot to work on it just in terms of the little stuff in his game and the skill in that, that kind of stuff just figuring out the smarts and were to be defensively.
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But I mean, again, you're looking for potential and you're looking at if you can't afford the Lakers tickets self great Lakers not a bad option to go check out this season.
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Right now, there's reason for optimism.
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Yeah, I made that comment on Twitter.
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I mean, look, you've got you've got David Stockton.
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You've got Give Kay cock you've got onto to Coop.
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Oh, you've got Zach Norville.
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All of these guys that are really solid.
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And they've been a lot of fun to watch here, and I'm talking about going against N b A Guys The D League.
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They play at warp speed like the Lakers played fast last season. The D League.
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They fly up and down the floor like crazy.
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It's nuts.
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And, uh so I can only imagine how fun it's gonna be watching those guys playing, dealing it.
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And I know we wouldn't.
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We see Costa's and I've seen the comments coming in.
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People say no.
00:17:04
He should be getting minutes with the Lakers and Zach Norville.
00:17:06
Sure, beginning minutes with the Lakers.
00:17:08
I think there's gonna be a lot of South Bay Lakers minutes coming for those guys, but that gives you even more incentive to tune in and check these guys out because, you know, before we know it, they could be up with the Lakers.
00:17:18
I'm not ready to say they're they're ready to go yet.
00:17:20
But Costas interested Interest me.
00:17:22
He's big.
00:17:23
He's ranging he can do a lot of things that you like.
00:17:26
So, um, another good find for the Lakers on the from the South Bay side? Yeah, they're picking these guys up dirt cheap.
00:17:34
And And when you look at it with the team in this Italian cat position that it's going to be in for the next new seeds and then obviously not having many, many draft picks to as a result of the trade, you got it.
00:17:42
You're trying to hit home runs with those guys, right? And I'm bringing him in.
00:17:45
So I think that's where where I know some of the commenters again.
00:17:48
And I think people get caught up in what you're seeing.
00:17:50
You remember who they're playing against running around against Steph Curry all night and D'Angelo Russell all night and dream on green all night.
00:17:56
They're just kind of, you know, they're playing against the other team's Julie guys as well.
00:18:00
So when you look at it, if one of the night, that's why I was mentioning about nor belt like if he was going, if he goes down to the TV and he still ended up and he's doing what he was doing today on the offense event and killing it in that league.
00:18:10
Yeah, you would have to almost force.
00:18:11
He's forcing you to give him a shot at some point it with the team.
00:18:14
Yeah, yeah, at one point a damn point.
00:18:16
They're going to play well enough to where you have to keep them on the floor and you have to give him that opportunity.
00:18:21
And that's what Alex Caruso did last season.
00:18:23
And that's again.
00:18:24
Something that that the Lakers have have done well of us is allowing these guys to get these opportunities.
00:18:29
Part of that's because of injury issues that allowed them to do that, Uh, at Daniel Day.
00:18:33
No party.
00:18:34
A junior on Facebook, that is.
00:18:35
Koos ready to go opening night? I'm optimistic.
00:18:39
Cautiously.
00:18:40
Often, now he's gonna have to go through a process.
00:18:42
He's got non contract contact drills.
00:18:44
He's got to do some one on one contact drills and three on three eventually progressed to five on five.
00:18:49
But we've got a week.
00:18:50
I think it's possible that he plays a, but I'm not expecting a ton of minutes, but I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility for him to play on on a Tuesday night against the Clippers.
00:19:00
And I'll say this.
00:19:01
I think he changes their team a lot, and ah, just You kind of alluded to it earlier with him out there.
00:19:07
You kind of you've got that missing piece because right now the Lakers have so many guards, and that could be a challenge.
00:19:13
We saw it against the Nets.
00:19:14
When you've got, like, KCP trying to close out on a guy like John and Moosa six foot nine, that doesn't really work, it's a It's a much more difficult shot when you've got a guy who's 6869 himself, like Koosman closing out.
00:19:26
And so I think he's gonna be really important for the team this season and they gotta get him back, get him healthy.
00:19:32
Yeah, I think that's it.
00:19:33
That's the main.
00:19:34
That's the main element right now is if you look at it and you say with this guy we want don't rush it back, you know what I mean.
00:19:40
I'm sure if it was playoffs, you would probably be playing next Tuesday, right, because it's Game one of 82.
00:19:45
I think you gotta maybe even look at giving them another extra weakling like you mentioned.
00:19:49
Even if he does come back.
00:19:50
What are you looking at? 15 minutes maximum.
00:19:52
Because you're not gonna be in the condition level of the rest of the guys out there, so I wouldn't rush it back with him.
00:19:56
I say, Take your time, take.
00:19:58
You know, even if it's an extra week or so and get back to being helped because And I've mentioned this before, uh, you know, what I've talked about it on this show is that you look at the Lakers schedule.
00:20:07
Those 1st 20 games are against teams who are not guaranteed to be in the playoffs.
00:20:12
They're finished playoff teams.
00:20:13
But after that, after that Utah game, like they go a bit on a stretch, I think it's 18 games or so up until December 2nd.
00:20:19
I believe it is when they played Denver that you're like, Okay, those are those are some winnable games.
00:20:22
They're so again, nothing is easy in the n b A.
00:20:24
So I wouldn't look at Russian codes back at this point. No.
00:20:27
Yeah, but I mean the same token.
00:20:29
They have to get off to a good start because that that you've got you've got a fat up your your ah, your record right now, early in the season while the Lakers have these winnable games because there are gonna be some lean times coming in November and December, There's gonna be some tough stretches, and that's where you've got a kind of buffer.
00:20:45
That's what the Lakers didn't do well last year was was buffer their their win loss record by feasting on the bad teams.
00:20:51
They found ways to lose to the really bad team.
00:20:53
So then when they didn't come out and have huge upsets over the good teams, then there really in trouble.
00:20:58
So you're supposed to you have to beat the teams you're supposed to be.
00:21:01
And so I do think, Well, yes, health is critical for Cruise, but I do think they also need to get him out there as quickly as they can see.
00:21:10
I'm not holding out any extra games or anything like that.
00:21:12
Well, that's what I'm saying.
00:21:13
I'm saying Don't rush it when he's fully ready.
00:21:15
Like if he's if you're only gonna play in 10 12 minutes on night one and you can you know, you could get him up to 20.
00:21:19
Bye bye.
00:21:20
Game number to wait.
00:21:21
You know, if the extra couple days are gonna help in practice.
00:21:23
So I mean, I agree with you.
00:21:24
I wouldn't want to rush it to the point that he, uh, that he is gonna get hurt again.
00:21:29
And I believe it was a stress factor in its foot two.
00:21:31
And those are Those are messy, You know what I mean? In terms of re occurring.
00:21:35
And if you keep doing that So that's all I'm saying is make sure he's 100% help because you would rather him play for 79 games rather than you know what it means.
00:21:41
60 or whatever it is. Exactly.
00:21:43
Yeah.
00:21:44
And I think that's where it's important.
00:21:46
Um Mandy Mull taani from Facebook said Who should be the Lakers starting point guard.
00:21:51
So let's bring it back to that conversation there.
00:21:53
I mentioned that nobody's really kind of taken over that role if you had to pick somebody right now, we said we're going to set the lineup for the opening night regular season against the Clippers.
00:22:03
Who is that fifth starter for the Lakers drumroll please.
00:22:07
I'm gonna go with LeBron James at the point guard. I'm just getting that.
00:22:11
That's what I would start at the one.
00:22:12
But the fifth guy at this point, I go it with Bradley.
00:22:16
I just think what his skill set is, and you need somebody who's a bit of a defender and you have LeBron out there.
00:22:21
Who is your playmaker? 80 can also be a playmaker.
00:22:24
And then you got your shooter.
00:22:25
Where? Danny Green.
00:22:26
So I don't think that I don't think that the Lakers have any night you mentioned.
00:22:29
None of these guys have really stepped up and been like, I'm the guy who's gonna take that spot.
00:22:32
I mean, Caruso, too, from 19 over his last two games, I think he's forcing it a bit so that I don't think he was gonna be a starter anyways.
00:22:38
But for May, I'm gonna roll with every Bradley.
00:22:41
What about you? I agree.
00:22:42
I'm hesitant because I liked so much of what we've seen defensively.
00:22:45
I think he can be a little bit over aggressive on the defensive end, picks up some cheap fouls that way.
00:22:50
But I'll take that mindset.
00:22:51
What? That guy coming out there that is going to get the rest of the team fired up about playing defense.
00:22:56
It's easy to get excited about playing offense.
00:22:58
I want that guy that's gonna get everybody locked in on the defensive end.
00:23:01
I think it's a focal point for Lakers this year, so I go Avery Bradley.
00:23:04
But I haven't really enjoyed his shooting so far.
00:23:07
He hasn't been great, but I don't know if he's even hit a three so far in preseason small sample size.
00:23:13
But I think that he needs to get that three point shot to come around on the offensive end.
00:23:17
So he's at least a threat out there.
00:23:18
But on the defensive side of the ball, I really, really like that.
00:23:22
Danny Green Avery Bradley pairing on the perimeter.
00:23:25
I think they close out well on defender on the shooters and then on the inside. You've got travail.
00:23:30
You've got a D.
00:23:31
Those air just trees and they're blocking everything at the rim.
00:23:34
Plus, LeBron James, Not a small dude.
00:23:36
I like the defensive built potential that starting five.
00:23:38
So I'm right there with you, Jess.
00:23:40
Yeah, Yeah, I I just think you the easy choice.
00:23:42
I don't want to see Rondo play starting minutes and playing with those guys.
00:23:45
I thinkit's just a weird mix with him out there with having LeBron and 80.
00:23:50
So that's why for me again, and you need that defensive problems from somebody, cause LeBron doesn't play much defense anymore.
00:23:55
So other than Danny Green, you do somebody else out there who are getting good, he hasnt better.
00:23:59
But you'll know what over the 80 to you stepping up in the playoffs? Yeah, absolutely.
00:24:02
During the season.
00:24:03
I mean, I'm not expecting him to play every night like like M.
00:24:06
J did in terms of defensively, no, but I will say that he's put in more effort on the defensive end than we've seen in the past, and I'm wondering if some of that is he knows now.
00:24:15
He doesn't have to do all the heavy lifting on the offensive end.
00:24:18
A D can dio a decent amount of that, and so now he can spend a little bit more energy on defense.
00:24:23
Least that's what I'm hoping.
00:24:24
Plus, Davis has already had those comments about how he wants to hold everyone accountable in the defense event, including LeBron and all that So I think it's focal point, and I'm hoping that LeBron's defense will pick up from last.
00:24:35
He wasn't when he was bad.
00:24:37
It was like, glaringly bad where you could see he just wasn't putting in the effort.
00:24:41
And so maybe we overstate how bad his defense was.
00:24:43
I think he was just okay, but I think there's another level he can get to if he's not having to spend as much energy on offense.
00:24:50
Yeah, I I agree with you on that, and I think it'll be It'll be different for him this season because you're gonna have a guy like Anthony Davis there who's gonna isn't the leader on this team to right right up there with LeBron.
00:25:00
So if he's gonna hold these guys accountable, I think it was different for LeBron Last year were like you mentioned it was like the offense had to go through him and and would now like you, haven't you have another superstar with you? Hopefully that gives him a little bit more.
00:25:12
I don't want to see you can rest on offense, but a little bit more energy in terms of preserving that.
00:25:16
For the defense of that yeah, 100% at Keaton and a bunch of numbers it throws in Quinn Cook that we're forgetting about Quinn Cook, that we're not giving him a secret.
00:25:28
Well, of course we're forgetting about him because he hasn't played yet.
00:25:31
He hasn't floor.
00:25:32
He's been dealing with the calf issue, But we did here tonight.
00:25:34
It was on the broadcast.
00:25:36
Bill McDonald.
00:25:37
Awesome guy, By the way, Bill McDonald throughout their that Quinn Cook wants to play.
00:25:41
He's ready, But he just felt like he needed to get a little bit more practice before he was ready to get out there on the floor in a regular game situation.
00:25:49
So maybe we see him on Wednesday after the Lakers practice tomorrow, so that will be be something to watch.
00:25:55
Quinn Cook can get out there soon.
00:25:56
I don't think jazz, you know, I'm high on Quinn Cook.
00:25:59
Big time of the shooting ability is gonna be huge.
00:26:02
I don't think he's really in the conversation to be the starter right now, unless he comes out over the next few preseason games and just absolutely dominates turns into Damian Lillard or something like that, which that's not gonna happen.
00:26:13
But as a bench options.
00:26:14
Sure.
00:26:15
I'm definitely curious to see what he can bring.
00:26:17
Yes, I'm the same boat as you.
00:26:19
I liked what he bought with the, uh, with warriors last couple of seasons.
00:26:22
Excuse me.
00:26:23
Um, but when you look at his skill set and that's what we're talking about and that comment is kind of right, like he's one of the few guys who he has the capability to score 12 15 points in a game and hit those hit those big threes you did a couple of times in the finals, especially after Clay was gone.
00:26:39
I mean, I know it's a small sample size, but I've seen him play well enough with those guys, that all right? He brings that element so again, I mean, you mentioned that to nobody's really taking the bull by the horns out of those guys.
00:26:49
And if you can come in and do that, then you've been you're gonna have to give minutes, and I know it matters who starts.
00:26:53
But I also think in the n b A.
00:26:55
It's always more important who finishes the game.
00:26:56
And so you want your most trusted guy out of those five to be out there, maybe at the end, rather than in the beginning, too.
00:27:02
Yeah, and you know what Frank Vogel's in a good spot with? We've said, Yeah, no, no guard has really stepped up.
00:27:09
But he's also got that flexibility now because nobody has stepped up where if one player happens to Beehive, Quinn Cook, it comes out and he's shooting hot.
00:27:17
Great. He's the guy that plays down the stretch.
00:27:19
They were a few. Mondo is happening.
00:27:21
Thio have a great game.
00:27:22
He's the guy who plays her.
00:27:23
Caruso, Captain America.
00:27:24
Whoever right has that great game.
00:27:27
He could just go with the hot hand, and so that's a little bit of a luxury in its own right.
00:27:31
But Avery Bradley could get that as well.
00:27:34
Uh, let's see a few more questions here that we want to get into.
00:27:39
Uh oh.
00:27:40
Keaton is the same guys asking, Would you be the one or the two off the bench? I think that you can play either spot.
00:27:45
He could play the one organ, too, and you say the same thing about Alex Caruso.
00:27:50
Oh, my goodness, Jazz.
00:27:52
You won't even guess they actually, you probably will guess the comment that just popped up.
00:27:56
Carmelo? Yes.
00:27:58
Cover.
00:27:59
Yeah, perfectly. 23 sign.
00:28:02
Carmelo. Anthony.
00:28:04
Yeah, I want to get back into this We're talking about Who are you talking about this and write that as we've done this? Carmelo Anthony? No, Um, John Zarrella says, How about LeBron Coups 80? Javale and Howard line up all the Biggs on the floor.
00:28:19
Just get all of the rebounds.
00:28:22
Yeah, you know what? I don't think we're going to see it, but that would be a pretty hard rebound.
00:28:26
Pretty hard team to stop on the offensive glass to unite.
00:28:29
And 80 was maybe fast enough to guard the three.
00:28:32
You could maybe go with something on today's MBA.
00:28:33
So that's not gonna work.
00:28:35
Steph Curry would be like, Thank you.
00:28:36
He'd be shooting all along the threes and nobody's been able to change us.
00:28:39
Chase him around.
00:28:41
I've noticed this, too, about about the Lakers.
00:28:43
And I think this is Frank Vogel's defensive scheme.
00:28:45
They're not switching at all, even the onboard.
00:28:47
So they're not planning on doing that.
00:28:48
So it'll be interesting to see depending on the matchup.
00:28:50
If they might change that strategy at some point pending on the team they're playing against.
00:28:54
You know, I'm glad you brought up the defense because that was the one thing that I thought.
00:28:57
It waned a little bit the second quarter and throughout the game, as the lineup kept getting rotated.
00:29:02
But to start the game, I thought they did really well, the defensive end.
00:29:05
They did the same thing against the Nets last last outing.
00:29:08
They played well on defense.
00:29:09
You saw these guys competing on every single possession.
00:29:12
They were closing out on shooters.
00:29:14
They were making the right reads.
00:29:15
And I think that's a credit to Frank Vogel.
00:29:17
I think, Look, getting beat by the Nets twice in China.
00:29:20
I don't think that's indicative of the true defensive potential of this team, because I look it.
00:29:24
I look at what they had the beginning of games when you've got a regular rotation in there and I see the way that they played.
00:29:30
I'm seeing some really good things, some positive signs about the way that they are.
00:29:34
They're reacting out on the court, so I'm really interested to see what they're gonna look like defensively on opening night.
00:29:41
Yeah, and you know what? They're definitely not I mean in preseason.
00:29:44
You don't show everything you're doing, right.
00:29:45
I mean, you're you're trying to get down the fundamentals in the basics of the defensive kind of strategy and the offensive system you're running.
00:29:51
But you don't want to show everything right away because obviously teams will have more tape on you, and it's not like it's a big secret what teams are going to do eventually.
00:29:57
But I think right now we're gonna see some more.
00:30:00
And I hope Frank Vogel does do that.
00:30:01
Adjust his game plan depending on the opponent.
00:30:03
And I think you have enough versatility in the lineup in terms of especially offensively and you got so much top and talent with LeBron and A D.
00:30:09
So I do want to see them switch that switch that around.
00:30:12
But I like what I like doing defensively in terms of the scheme.
00:30:15
I just don't know if it'll work against teams like Houston and those guys were.
00:30:19
You're leaving the big guy right by the group all the time.
00:30:21
I think that might be tough, but again, it's dependent on what we'll see in the regular season.
00:30:24
Yeah, yeah, and look, I think the Vogel he's got a strong enough coaching staff to where he can make tweaks as they go along.
00:30:31
But right now I think we're seeing some good things.
00:30:33
Ah, Andrew Davis is asking, Will e g.
00:30:34
B bought out by Memphis? Well, the word from a dream Oh, Janowski from a couple of days ago was that if and when he does get bought out, it's going to be the Lakers or the Clippers, he's gonna goto one into L. A teams.
00:30:45
And I mentioned this on the preview show that I did over on sportscaster um before the Lakers Warriors game.
00:30:52
It's going if it comes down to Lakers versus Clippers.
00:30:56
If it goes to the Clippers, I don't think he's gonna play all that much.
00:31:00
I think they've got too many things already in front of.
00:31:02
I think the Clippers, going after Iguodala, is just trying to stop the Lakers from getting well.
00:31:07
I think if the Lakers give Iguodala, there's a real role for him and he gets some real minutes there.
00:31:12
So I would hope that maybe this is my little bit of that.
00:31:15
He would always somehow here, but I hope that he's waving a guy like DeMarcus cousins or something like that.
00:31:23
I don't know exactly how they were the room just yet, but my hope would be that they could add him because I think you'd be a great fit.
00:31:30
He's exactly what we're talking about their missing, though, right? I mean, you know, I mean, he's not.
00:31:33
Don't get me wrong.
00:31:34
It's like a dollar with younger years, Especially with the Pistons and stuff.
00:31:37
Yeah, he's value could score 18 to 22 a night.
00:31:39
I mean, he still has the potential to hit some big shots.
00:31:41
We saw him do that a ton during his time with lawyers, and he is a bit of an offensive playmaker, too.
00:31:46
So I agree with you.
00:31:47
I mean, I don't know where the fit would be if he goes to the Clippers like you're gonna have.
00:31:50
Kawai may be the primary ball handler, but you're PG and Andrea Goodell out there a past Patrick Beverley.
00:31:57
I agree with you.
00:31:58
I don't know how much he's gonna get to play, but like you mentioned, man, I just think it's a It's a power move by the by the Clippers, and we just don't want him going across the hall to the Lakers, whereas I think if he looked at it objectively, he's got to say the Lakers are the better option for me in terms of if I want to get minutes and whatnot.
00:32:11
Yeah, for sure.
00:32:12
I mean, look, if he if he wants minutes, if you want to play a real role I think the Lakers are the clear option because they're the team that has a definite need as a for a backup small forward.
00:32:21
He needs that.
00:32:22
They need that.
00:32:23
They that's that's what they need on their team right now.
00:32:26
Miguel Arroyo throughout.
00:32:27
Trade KCP for a bag of chips at this point, which, Yeah, it's, uh, is where people that I get it.
00:32:33
People aren't happy with Casey, I think your DCP game.
00:32:38
I think the Lakers might have to throw in a second round pick with that in order to get that trade.
00:32:42
So they've gotta add an asset and they don't have your fix.
00:32:47
Now they get TJ.
00:32:49
You're really as Dwight or McGee.
00:32:51
Who would you start? I think we're unanimous.
00:32:53
There. We would definitely be starting. Javale mcgee.
00:32:56
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I'm sure it's gonna be.
00:32:58
It's gonna be JaVale at this point.
00:33:00
Let's wrap up with this. Yes.
00:33:03
So, Anthony Davis, LeBron James, the duo.
00:33:08
What are you hoping to see out of the two of them? Because we spent so much time and we did this last season to talking about kind of the peripheral guys because those are the guys.
00:33:16
We're not sure if they're going to make it.
00:33:18
We don't know if they're gonna be there, what they can bring and everything.
00:33:20
It's almost like we already kind of know what Anthony Davis LeBron James do.
00:33:24
But as a pairing, what are you looking for from them as that kind of 12 punch? I just think they got to develop something that is going to work all the time.
00:33:34
Offensively, you know where and when I say work.
00:33:36
I mean, you're getting a good shot out of it and mean at the end of the game, whether it's running a pick and roll and figuring out if you want to do ah traditional.
00:33:43
But he's setting the pick on the top left top top right? Or he's setting it like a flat screen on the defenders back, you know, But figure out something that works between you two.
00:33:51
That's that's killing your guys in practice and try and use that in a way that, you know.
00:33:55
Well, this is our go to the top some 0.
00:34:01
80 you know, wherever it is, I just think I gotta figure out something between them, the chemistry on the offensive end.
00:34:06
I think it's gonna be really key for those two because we saw between and I think that they're different in their in their mind set and also different players.
00:34:12
But we went through that with Kobe and Dwight, were like, It's gonna be a natural fit and they're gonna be good.
00:34:17
And I do think that LeBron and 80 are just smarter players than Dwight.
00:34:20
No matter what, maybe not a selfish is Kobe and you know what I mean? Like, but I do think that those teams are that this team really needs those two to gel right from the start, like you mentioned, get some of those easier winds as the season gets harder going into December and January.
00:34:33
Well, that's a great point.
00:34:34
And our friend Eric Pink it's actually just had a piece for bleacher report where He made that comparison as well.
00:34:39
The Kobe Dwight dynamic versus the LeBron and A D dynamic.
00:34:43
And I mean, Kobe and Dwight were on the court.
00:34:46
You would think they should fit personality.
00:34:49
Wise off, they're told they're complete opposites.
00:34:52
Okay, It's almost like Kobe Shack all over again, except Kobe's in that kind of Alfa rule already.
00:34:58
And then Dwight came in and it was just It wasn't a good fit.
00:35:01
They did.
00:35:02
They weren't on the same page, whereas so they weren't. There were friends.
00:35:05
They were buddies. They hang out anything like that.
00:35:07
LeBron and a D r legitimately for LeBron, try to give him his number.
00:35:11
I mean, LeBron with management, tried to tell Tell the Lakers they need to run the offense through Anthony Davis.
00:35:16
LeBron has done everything he can to be welcoming.
00:35:18
They share an agent with Rich Paul.
00:35:20
I think it's a different dynamic there and I think that's going to help on the floor, their personalities being a little bit more similar.
00:35:27
I think that's definitely gonna be a big help.
00:35:28
But yeah, they're both so skilled and so versatile that I have to think it's gonna work and I can't wait to see, like you mentioned, they need something unstoppable.
00:35:36
I think it's ultimately gonna be that LeBron a d pick and roll And I can't wait to see when they really get that thing dialed.
00:35:43
It's gonna take time.
00:35:44
But once they get that really dialed in and you've got like like Dana Reeve has your spot up shooter across the cord and and you've got all the spacing you need, everything that could be absolutely deadly.
00:35:55
Yeah, And then that's where I'm looking at it, too.
00:35:57
And you mentioned how LeBron is saying that.
00:35:59
Hey, you know, we, uh I want to run the offense for a D and he's gonna be the primary dude we saw that happen with Dwayne, Wade and LeBron, especially in 2011 finals with it, where they lost to the Mavericks.
00:36:09
Although Chris Bosh falling in the tunnel is still one of the funniest things that came from that from that Siri's.
00:36:14
But the following year, you kind of saw Dwyane Wade take a little bit of a back seat to LeBron and LeBron credit to him.
00:36:19
Maybe saying it a year early, like all right, screw it.
00:36:21
We're not gonna go through chemistry issues.
00:36:22
I don't mind being the 11 be here compared to eighties one. A.
00:36:26
So, like you mentioned, get that down and get that down pretty quick.
00:36:29
And then I think everything else will fall into place in terms of defensively and figure out rotations that where guys are stronger or not.
00:36:34
I think the offense event is gonna be really key.
00:36:37
And that is one thing I liked about Frank Vogel system today.
00:36:39
They're setting a lot of stagger screens at the top.
00:36:41
There was a lot of movement compared to what we saw from Loop last year.
00:36:43
Yeah, that's a good point.
00:36:45
There is. There is.
00:36:46
There was a lot of movement.
00:36:47
There was a lot of stagnation against the Nets.
00:36:49
And so this is something that where they have been fixing things, Obviously, they've been working on things, so that's a That's definitely a good sign.
00:36:55
And if you see that in an offense in addition to the defense of potential, then you know the ceiling could be pretty high for this group.
00:37:02
Obviously, fans are hoping championship.
00:37:03
I don't know if I'm ready to go there just yet, but I think they've got some interesting pieces here to where would your building round? LeBron Any d and you've got all these other guys that are ready to fall in line and they know their role.
00:37:16
Then you've got a recipe for what? Something that could be pretty special.
00:37:19
I mean, that was one of the issues last season.
00:37:21
I mean, it was LeBron was the guy, But then after that, what's what is it? Is Lonzo running the show? Is it Is Brandon in Groom going to be a slasher, or is he going to be a shooter from behind arc? What's Cosmo's roll? These guys just They didn't have the defined rules this season.
00:37:36
It's pretty clear whatever one's role on the team is, everybody knows exactly what they're supposed to do.
00:37:41
And I think that's gonna help them out.
00:37:42
And especially with two guys like LeBron and 82 kind of follow into battle.
00:37:47
Yeah, you're right.
00:37:48
And that's where that's where the fun part, I think with the MBA is this year's last year.
00:37:52
I think everybody knew there was no championship happening where you're looking at it this year.
00:37:56
Uh, you mentioned how you know all the teams air.
00:37:58
They're all in the same place right now.
00:37:59
We don't know who's gonna be good and and a championship contender in the MBA.
00:38:02
I think it's gonna take us tell Game 50 to 60 to figure that out.
00:38:05
So that's why I think it's so important to have two guys as smart and as great as LeBron and 80 kind of leading the organization.
00:38:11
And that's where I think that if you get off to a you know 10 and 2 10 and three start, you're gonna have a little bit of separation from some of the other teams.
00:38:17
Because we saw so many changes in the MBA in terms of where players are going and big names moved a lot.
00:38:22
So it's gonna take teams time.
00:38:23
And that's where I think these guys, I was gonna play, play a bit of a difference in this one.
00:38:27
Yeah, hopefully they'll get off that quick start.
00:38:29
We'll find out in just over a week if they're able to start things off with a win.
00:38:33
Now the Lakers do take on the Golden State Warriors again Wednesday night.
00:38:35
I believe that one's up in Northern get taken, that they're going to be on the road for that one.
00:38:41
But we'll be doing this again right after will be here after every Lakers game.
00:38:45
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00:38:51
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