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00:00:00
guess now you understand What the plan Waas.
00:00:02
Absolutely.
00:00:04
At coleslaw.
00:00:05
We talk Indianapolis Colts football.
00:00:08
We're gonna stick to what we know.
00:00:09
Fundamentals and technique.
00:00:11
1% better every day.
00:00:24
All right, so I guess now you understand what the plan Waas.
00:00:28
Absolutely.
00:00:29
That coleslaw we talking.
00:00:32
Hey, what's Ellen along? Guys, give me one moment as I share my stream real fast.
00:00:40
Okay, so I understand this is probably gonna be a bit of a argument between most a lot of people, but quite frankly, I fully believe in what I'm about to say.
00:01:01
So many people want to rake quarterbacks.
00:01:03
You know, this guy or that guy, Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady Or or, you know, whoever Drew Brees, our great quarterbacks.
00:01:14
But I Honestly yeah, they're good, but they're good for a reason, right? Every quarterback has their strengths.
00:01:23
That record back has their weaknesses.
00:01:26
Uh, you think about this.
00:01:30
Okay, so you got some quarterbacks that are really good at running the football or escaping a pocket, but aren't as good? Uh, making decisions will fast.
00:01:45
And then you got other quarterbacks that don't have great arm strength, But get through the progressions really quick.
00:01:53
are ableto hit, you know, the short yards, quick, fast passes.
00:01:58
And then you got on and on and on, you know, different talents.
00:02:01
Forget for quarterbacks and wrecking the quarterback.
00:02:05
People ranked quarterback on how successful they've been in the NFL.
00:02:12
And I don't like that idea at all because you figure, um, you got, like, let's say, came sick.
00:02:21
All right? Patrick Mahomes came to city.
00:02:26
If Patrick Mahomes was on the Cardinals right now, would we be calling him? Would we still be calling him the best in the NFL right now? I don't know.
00:02:39
I don't know that we would be, but because he has the right play caller, a guy who designs plays for that specific quarterback and he has the right personnel to take advantage of the type of quarterback he is with speed and things of that nature that take, you know, his big arm.
00:03:04
You know, he's got that ability toe, make people miss, create time in the pocket and then rather accurate downfield.
00:03:12
He he's got the team, the coach and the GM and the owner toe actually make this work for him, and that's why he is considered the best Indiana right now, even after just a year here.
00:03:28
But you put Tom Brady on the Browns.
00:03:34
Would Tom Brady B is good right now as he is, you know, with Bill Bella check and the Patriots and the way they built a team around him.
00:03:42
Because first off, look, here's here's the way I see it.
00:03:47
You don't build.
00:03:49
You don't mold a quarterback for your team, right? That's just common knowledge.
00:03:55
You build a team around your quarterback, you find a quarterback you like with skill sets that you can live with, and then you build a team around them.
00:04:04
And a lot of this success of an NFL team.
00:04:08
I have to do with how well the GM or owner, whoever it is that that gets talent, you know, drafts and grabs free agents, builds and adds that talent around him.
00:04:21
And then how well the offensive scheme is for that quarterback, whether it be the head coach of the office coordinator, making play calls and designing place before that quarterback.
00:04:31
So ah, lot of that success has absolutely nothing to do with the telling of the quarterback himself, right? It has to do with the smarts and the abilities up here of the guys in the front office in the coaching, right, Because, I mean, come on. Right.
00:04:53
Uh, Bill Belichick is able to get guys that he wants around Tom Brady with certain skill sets.
00:05:03
Really? He doesn't have a whole bunch of burners on that team because he knows that Tom Brady is not gonna be throwing deep every five seconds.
00:05:11
He wants guys who could run really good around with good hands.
00:05:14
That's the kind of guys that he wants him to be able to throw the football team.
00:05:21
Okay, so, uh, Tom Brady on became the city in the type of scheme that they have wouldn't be playing the same scheme.
00:05:32
Andy Reid would not be playing the same exact scene with Tom Brady as he does Patrick Mahomes.
00:05:38
And your ego is a smart enough coach to understand.
00:05:41
Hey, you know what will happen.
00:05:43
Dial thes plays back a little bit and make a more mental rather than more physical arm strength and stuff of that nature.
00:05:55
So, really, it's not the quarterback that is doing all these things.
00:06:01
I mean, yes, he is the one doing it, but it's the team around him, the the office around him.
00:06:07
That's building that team for him, right? Because, like, for instance, Andrew Luck leaves Indianapolis Colts Jacoby per set steps in.
00:06:21
It's Frank, right? Going to play the exact same style of play calls for Jacoby percentage.
00:06:27
Does Andrew luck? Absolutely not.
00:06:30
Andrew Luck was a kind of guy who was a bit of a percentage of guy, you know, He he would see someone down the field.
00:06:38
I know that he's double covered but knew that he could make at pinpoint past four out of five times and make a big completion out of Jacoby percent.
00:06:46
Isn't that type of guy Jacoby percent is, the more I want to make sure that I throw to an open guy who can make plays after the catch, you know? So Frank Reich has to design plays a little bit differently for Jacoby to succeed, because if he was playing the same style if he was playing, the exact same play calls for Jacoby percent as he was.
00:07:11
Andrew.
00:07:13
Look, the Colts may not be too in one right now, right? Jacoby percent might be looking really bad.
00:07:18
Who knows? So ranking quarterbacks is kind of stupid ranking their success in the team around them.
00:07:29
I understand that.
00:07:31
But you got to give credit to the coaches and G m's, and you know players around them.
00:07:37
Yeah, it's not just the quarter Mac that's given him that that success.
00:07:43
So why are we acting like it? Why are we ranking it for that? To me, that's absolutely silly.
00:07:51
We need people out there who, you know, actually know what the heck they're talking about when they when they want to do these rankings.
00:08:01
Can we rank individual aspects of a quarterback? Absolutely.
00:08:05
Arm strength.
00:08:06
Yes, we could say this quarterback had a stronger arm than all the other quarterbacks in the NFL.
00:08:12
Or this quarterback is better at throwing deep balls accurately than any other quarterback.
00:08:18
This quarterbacks better at escaping pressure, this quarterbacks better, making quick reads.
00:08:24
You know, that's the kind of stuff that we could do for quarterbacks because those air quarterback skills that are individually based upon them not dependent on the success of the team in the front office of the team that they play.
00:08:40
That's the way I see it.
00:08:44
Do you agree? I disagree, because this is This is how I absolutely think that it should be going right now.
00:08:51
I couldn't think anything else to put up so I wouldn't have put up last year's Pro Bowl.
00:08:55
Uh, I almost put up the quarterback, almost put up the quarterback journals for the Pro Pro Pro Bowl weekend, but that really isn't that long.
00:09:09
The video for that isn't that long and the Pro Bowls a lot longer than that.
00:09:13
So I went ahead and put that on there, so I didn't know how long I'll be discussing.
00:09:16
I don't know if you guys are gonna be on here actually talking with me like I had last time when I was on here.
00:09:22
But I'll tell you what, That's absolutely what the way I feel.
00:09:26
I mean, with quarterbacks, because a Geum, if you got a quarterback that the GM goes out and draft the number one quarterback, any drafts, let's say a dish on Watson, right? And he goes out and, well, he gets a bunch of slow guys, but they're really good at running routes.
00:09:52
They're really good at catching the football right in traffic, but none of them have better than 45 speed no, with the Sean wants and still be successful. Maybe.
00:10:05
But you need those guys to take advantage of the Sean Watson's arm to stretch the field right to fully displayed to Sean Watson's ability as a quarterback.
00:10:18
Okay, um, are you gonna Lem or Jackson, for instance? Let's go to him.
00:10:28
A lot of people want to rank him right now.
00:10:31
Talk 678 quarterback in the NFL.
00:10:37
Personally, I think tomorrow's game against the Brown will show a lot because the Browns have actual defense compared to the other teams he's played so far this year.
00:10:44
And that will provide a little bit of information about his arm strength and his accuracy and his abilities.
00:10:50
Toe breakdown coverages.
00:10:53
But how about how about what about you know, him being able to actually have to pinpoint precision that ball the time wanted most of the guys on his team.
00:11:07
What if they didn't have Hollywood Brown that stretch of field, right? Hollywood Brown's The guy got darn.
00:11:15
It happened.
00:11:16
Uh, no more Jackson's yards that first game, because he was able to break out and get wide open and Jackson was just only do is throw it deep right.
00:11:27
What if he had slower receivers and he had to pinpoint accuracy, those those bad boys, right? And make those decisions in tight Windows? Would he still be a successful? Would you still have those that quarterback rating that he has right now? I don't know.
00:11:47
That's why you really can't rank him like that.
00:11:49
You can't rank quarterbacks number one to number 32 in the NFL based on success, because that basing it off success is not basing it off that quarterbacks abilities, it's basing it off everything around, and it's just not it's not a good thing.
00:12:11
It's not something that we should do.
00:12:13
Uh, we need to figure out a different way of going about this.
00:12:19
If you could think of a different way, get a hold of me on Twitter Colts, underscore law and say, Hey, you know, why don't we rank him this way? Why don't we? Why don't we do it another way? Because I'm all four.
00:12:36
Open suggestions on how to reign different players in the NFL and because this basic an office successes is stupid, really, years now, coaching coaching also is very tough toe decide on sometimes.
00:12:55
Yes, you could be like, Well, that was the right play call.
00:12:57
But was it? You know, Lane? Well, he didn't have the talent to pull that playoff at that point in time.
00:13:06
Whoa.
00:13:10
There's only so many places that in a playbook that could get you say Third head for 13 15 and sometimes a screenplay, even though a lot of people want to complain and bitch that, you know you shouldn't run a screenplay on third and 10 if you don't have the personnel toe spread the field, the screenplay is probably your best bet, right? Order all play from a running back.
00:13:34
You know, if that's your strength and you could spread the field, Hope like heck that you've got a really good running back that's quick enough in order to get that that 10 yards or whatever.
00:13:45
So many aspects goes in the success of the team, so many.
00:13:52
And it's not just it's not just the quarterback.
00:13:56
His abilities with, uh, the coaching and the talent.
00:14:02
You also have to have chemistry there, too, right? Because look at the Brows quarterback there.
00:14:11
He's actually pretty good quarterback, but there's not chemistry there.
00:14:14
That locker room isn't solid they? They don't know each other well enough, you know, And people are still going toe.
00:14:22
They're gonna write that quarterback, you know, bottom 10 in the NFL.
00:14:29
But why? Because he doesn't have the chemistry with O.
00:14:35
B.
00:14:37
J and all of them right now to understand where they're gonna be at on a specific time when a specific route.
00:14:45
I think this comes with time and understanding and working with your with the players around you.
00:14:51
That's how I feel.
00:14:53
Is there anyone else out there that would like to discuss this? Because here I am, man, and I'm more than happy to talk about it with other people.
00:15:03
I'm sitting here looking down.
00:15:04
Nobody's chatting with me.
00:15:07
I really wish I could get somebody in here, but oh, well, um, I'm gonna go into this a little bit more in detail about other positions as well.
00:15:22
Running backs might be a little bit better, but I mean, you got you still have to have an offensive line for running backs, right? Frank Gore's ah bowler.
00:15:32
You know, he's Yeah, he's older, but he could still break tackles and gear guaranteed.
00:15:39
Give you, you know, 234 yards, no matter if there's 89 in the box.
00:15:46
But then you've got guys like Marlon Matt, who's not quite as good as Frank Gore.
00:15:53
Even though he learned a year from him his rookie year.
00:15:56
He won't quite a bit about that, but you give Moreland Mac a crease, just a crease, and he could take that 2030 yards where Frank Gore might take it.
00:16:07
89 10 yards.
00:16:09
There's a difference between running backs, just like there's a difference between quarterbacks.
00:16:14
So let's quit with this whole ranking quarterbacks based off of their success, Okay? Because, as it says right here, it's pretty silly.
00:16:24
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00:00:00
guess now you understand What the plan Waas.
00:00:02
Absolutely.
00:00:04
At coleslaw.
00:00:05
We talk Indianapolis Colts football.
00:00:08
We're gonna stick to what we know.
00:00:09
Fundamentals and technique.
00:00:11
1% better every day.
00:00:24
All right, so I guess now you understand what the plan Waas.
00:00:28
Absolutely.
00:00:29
That coleslaw we talking.
00:00:32
Hey, what's Ellen along? Guys, give me one moment as I share my stream real fast.
00:00:40
Okay, so I understand this is probably gonna be a bit of a argument between most a lot of people, but quite frankly, I fully believe in what I'm about to say.
00:01:01
So many people want to rake quarterbacks.
00:01:03
You know, this guy or that guy, Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady Or or, you know, whoever Drew Brees, our great quarterbacks.
00:01:14
But I Honestly yeah, they're good, but they're good for a reason, right? Every quarterback has their strengths.
00:01:23
That record back has their weaknesses.
00:01:26
Uh, you think about this.
00:01:30
Okay, so you got some quarterbacks that are really good at running the football or escaping a pocket, but aren't as good? Uh, making decisions will fast.
00:01:45
And then you got other quarterbacks that don't have great arm strength, But get through the progressions really quick.
00:01:53
are ableto hit, you know, the short yards, quick, fast passes.
00:01:58
And then you got on and on and on, you know, different talents.
00:02:01
Forget for quarterbacks and wrecking the quarterback.
00:02:05
People ranked quarterback on how successful they've been in the NFL.
00:02:12
And I don't like that idea at all because you figure, um, you got, like, let's say, came sick.
00:02:21
All right? Patrick Mahomes came to city.
00:02:26
If Patrick Mahomes was on the Cardinals right now, would we be calling him? Would we still be calling him the best in the NFL right now? I don't know.
00:02:39
I don't know that we would be, but because he has the right play caller, a guy who designs plays for that specific quarterback and he has the right personnel to take advantage of the type of quarterback he is with speed and things of that nature that take, you know, his big arm.
00:03:04
You know, he's got that ability toe, make people miss, create time in the pocket and then rather accurate downfield.
00:03:12
He he's got the team, the coach and the GM and the owner toe actually make this work for him, and that's why he is considered the best Indiana right now, even after just a year here.
00:03:28
But you put Tom Brady on the Browns.
00:03:34
Would Tom Brady B is good right now as he is, you know, with Bill Bella check and the Patriots and the way they built a team around him.
00:03:42
Because first off, look, here's here's the way I see it.
00:03:47
You don't build.
00:03:49
You don't mold a quarterback for your team, right? That's just common knowledge.
00:03:55
You build a team around your quarterback, you find a quarterback you like with skill sets that you can live with, and then you build a team around them.
00:04:04
And a lot of this success of an NFL team.
00:04:08
I have to do with how well the GM or owner, whoever it is that that gets talent, you know, drafts and grabs free agents, builds and adds that talent around him.
00:04:21
And then how well the offensive scheme is for that quarterback, whether it be the head coach of the office coordinator, making play calls and designing place before that quarterback.
00:04:31
So ah, lot of that success has absolutely nothing to do with the telling of the quarterback himself, right? It has to do with the smarts and the abilities up here of the guys in the front office in the coaching, right, Because, I mean, come on. Right.
00:04:53
Uh, Bill Belichick is able to get guys that he wants around Tom Brady with certain skill sets.
00:05:03
Really? He doesn't have a whole bunch of burners on that team because he knows that Tom Brady is not gonna be throwing deep every five seconds.
00:05:11
He wants guys who could run really good around with good hands.
00:05:14
That's the kind of guys that he wants him to be able to throw the football team.
00:05:21
Okay, so, uh, Tom Brady on became the city in the type of scheme that they have wouldn't be playing the same scheme.
00:05:32
Andy Reid would not be playing the same exact scene with Tom Brady as he does Patrick Mahomes.
00:05:38
And your ego is a smart enough coach to understand.
00:05:41
Hey, you know what will happen.
00:05:43
Dial thes plays back a little bit and make a more mental rather than more physical arm strength and stuff of that nature.
00:05:55
So, really, it's not the quarterback that is doing all these things.
00:06:01
I mean, yes, he is the one doing it, but it's the team around him, the the office around him.
00:06:07
That's building that team for him, right? Because, like, for instance, Andrew Luck leaves Indianapolis Colts Jacoby per set steps in.
00:06:21
It's Frank, right? Going to play the exact same style of play calls for Jacoby percentage.
00:06:27
Does Andrew luck? Absolutely not.
00:06:30
Andrew Luck was a kind of guy who was a bit of a percentage of guy, you know, He he would see someone down the field.
00:06:38
I know that he's double covered but knew that he could make at pinpoint past four out of five times and make a big completion out of Jacoby percent.
00:06:46
Isn't that type of guy Jacoby percent is, the more I want to make sure that I throw to an open guy who can make plays after the catch, you know? So Frank Reich has to design plays a little bit differently for Jacoby to succeed, because if he was playing the same style if he was playing, the exact same play calls for Jacoby percent as he was.
00:07:11
Andrew.
00:07:13
Look, the Colts may not be too in one right now, right? Jacoby percent might be looking really bad.
00:07:18
Who knows? So ranking quarterbacks is kind of stupid ranking their success in the team around them.
00:07:29
I understand that.
00:07:31
But you got to give credit to the coaches and G m's, and you know players around them.
00:07:37
Yeah, it's not just the quarter Mac that's given him that that success.
00:07:43
So why are we acting like it? Why are we ranking it for that? To me, that's absolutely silly.
00:07:51
We need people out there who, you know, actually know what the heck they're talking about when they when they want to do these rankings.
00:08:01
Can we rank individual aspects of a quarterback? Absolutely.
00:08:05
Arm strength.
00:08:06
Yes, we could say this quarterback had a stronger arm than all the other quarterbacks in the NFL.
00:08:12
Or this quarterback is better at throwing deep balls accurately than any other quarterback.
00:08:18
This quarterbacks better at escaping pressure, this quarterbacks better, making quick reads.
00:08:24
You know, that's the kind of stuff that we could do for quarterbacks because those air quarterback skills that are individually based upon them not dependent on the success of the team in the front office of the team that they play.
00:08:40
That's the way I see it.
00:08:44
Do you agree? I disagree, because this is This is how I absolutely think that it should be going right now.
00:08:51
I couldn't think anything else to put up so I wouldn't have put up last year's Pro Bowl.
00:08:55
Uh, I almost put up the quarterback, almost put up the quarterback journals for the Pro Pro Pro Bowl weekend, but that really isn't that long.
00:09:09
The video for that isn't that long and the Pro Bowls a lot longer than that.
00:09:13
So I went ahead and put that on there, so I didn't know how long I'll be discussing.
00:09:16
I don't know if you guys are gonna be on here actually talking with me like I had last time when I was on here.
00:09:22
But I'll tell you what, That's absolutely what the way I feel.
00:09:26
I mean, with quarterbacks, because a Geum, if you got a quarterback that the GM goes out and draft the number one quarterback, any drafts, let's say a dish on Watson, right? And he goes out and, well, he gets a bunch of slow guys, but they're really good at running routes.
00:09:52
They're really good at catching the football right in traffic, but none of them have better than 45 speed no, with the Sean wants and still be successful. Maybe.
00:10:05
But you need those guys to take advantage of the Sean Watson's arm to stretch the field right to fully displayed to Sean Watson's ability as a quarterback.
00:10:18
Okay, um, are you gonna Lem or Jackson, for instance? Let's go to him.
00:10:28
A lot of people want to rank him right now.
00:10:31
Talk 678 quarterback in the NFL.
00:10:37
Personally, I think tomorrow's game against the Brown will show a lot because the Browns have actual defense compared to the other teams he's played so far this year.
00:10:44
And that will provide a little bit of information about his arm strength and his accuracy and his abilities.
00:10:50
Toe breakdown coverages.
00:10:53
But how about how about what about you know, him being able to actually have to pinpoint precision that ball the time wanted most of the guys on his team.
00:11:07
What if they didn't have Hollywood Brown that stretch of field, right? Hollywood Brown's The guy got darn.
00:11:15
It happened.
00:11:16
Uh, no more Jackson's yards that first game, because he was able to break out and get wide open and Jackson was just only do is throw it deep right.
00:11:27
What if he had slower receivers and he had to pinpoint accuracy, those those bad boys, right? And make those decisions in tight Windows? Would he still be a successful? Would you still have those that quarterback rating that he has right now? I don't know.
00:11:47
That's why you really can't rank him like that.
00:11:49
You can't rank quarterbacks number one to number 32 in the NFL based on success, because that basing it off success is not basing it off that quarterbacks abilities, it's basing it off everything around, and it's just not it's not a good thing.
00:12:11
It's not something that we should do.
00:12:13
Uh, we need to figure out a different way of going about this.
00:12:19
If you could think of a different way, get a hold of me on Twitter Colts, underscore law and say, Hey, you know, why don't we rank him this way? Why don't we? Why don't we do it another way? Because I'm all four.
00:12:36
Open suggestions on how to reign different players in the NFL and because this basic an office successes is stupid, really, years now, coaching coaching also is very tough toe decide on sometimes.
00:12:55
Yes, you could be like, Well, that was the right play call.
00:12:57
But was it? You know, Lane? Well, he didn't have the talent to pull that playoff at that point in time.
00:13:06
Whoa.
00:13:10
There's only so many places that in a playbook that could get you say Third head for 13 15 and sometimes a screenplay, even though a lot of people want to complain and bitch that, you know you shouldn't run a screenplay on third and 10 if you don't have the personnel toe spread the field, the screenplay is probably your best bet, right? Order all play from a running back.
00:13:34
You know, if that's your strength and you could spread the field, Hope like heck that you've got a really good running back that's quick enough in order to get that that 10 yards or whatever.
00:13:45
So many aspects goes in the success of the team, so many.
00:13:52
And it's not just it's not just the quarterback.
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His abilities with, uh, the coaching and the talent.
00:14:02
You also have to have chemistry there, too, right? Because look at the Brows quarterback there.
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He's actually pretty good quarterback, but there's not chemistry there.
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That locker room isn't solid they? They don't know each other well enough, you know, And people are still going toe.
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They're gonna write that quarterback, you know, bottom 10 in the NFL.
00:14:29
But why? Because he doesn't have the chemistry with O.
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B.
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J and all of them right now to understand where they're gonna be at on a specific time when a specific route.
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I think this comes with time and understanding and working with your with the players around you.
00:14:51
That's how I feel.
00:14:53
Is there anyone else out there that would like to discuss this? Because here I am, man, and I'm more than happy to talk about it with other people.
00:15:03
I'm sitting here looking down.
00:15:04
Nobody's chatting with me.
00:15:07
I really wish I could get somebody in here, but oh, well, um, I'm gonna go into this a little bit more in detail about other positions as well.
00:15:22
Running backs might be a little bit better, but I mean, you got you still have to have an offensive line for running backs, right? Frank Gore's ah bowler.
00:15:32
You know, he's Yeah, he's older, but he could still break tackles and gear guaranteed.
00:15:39
Give you, you know, 234 yards, no matter if there's 89 in the box.
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But then you've got guys like Marlon Matt, who's not quite as good as Frank Gore.
00:15:53
Even though he learned a year from him his rookie year.
00:15:56
He won't quite a bit about that, but you give Moreland Mac a crease, just a crease, and he could take that 2030 yards where Frank Gore might take it.
00:16:07
89 10 yards.
00:16:09
There's a difference between running backs, just like there's a difference between quarterbacks.
00:16:14
So let's quit with this whole ranking quarterbacks based off of their success, Okay? Because, as it says right here, it's pretty silly.
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