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How are you doing, man? I'm doing okay.
Still a little bit upset over the fact that you beat me in our kind of people on that next week.
Uh, Nick job let me down.
Although I needed him to have a really big day, he didn't, so I'm sitting here a loser as we talked about before.
We even signed up for the families of Football League that I will finish at the bottom and I don't want to run well on my way to doing that.
So I was I was watching those games and I you know, I've got my fingers crossed.
That Nick job doesn't run off too many points.
I didn't want to go over to now.
I was already over one.
I know you were in the same boat.
It was the clash of the Titans.
We had her are they couldn't seem to win.
And, well, at least I guess my team picked up one win, but I don't know.
I don't know how well we're doing.
I think our listeners might be kicking our butts this season.
Well, Cam Newton is my starting quarterback.
That's all you need to know.
Oh, yeah, I forgot that.
That explains the four points or whatever I got from him on Thursday, so yeah, I'm not holding my breath.
I'm pretty much like the, uh, the NBA's version of the Phoenix Suns.
With my fantasy, I think there's gonna need to be a team named shaped name change.
They're gonna have to become the, uh, the sun's.
Somehow you have to work that out and come up with clever.
With that jazz, we've got obviously a ton of breakdown.
I'm like, we've been talking about this for weeks now, but I've been itching for basketball.
I can't wait to see n b a plane when we had the feeble World Cup stuff going on.
And of course, we know the Celtics players all let everybody down.
But that's what Celtics players do, right? You think them flameout in fee? But it wasn't just Celtics players, obviously.
But, uh, yeah, I mean, look, the feeble play, it's just not the same.
I don't know what it is.
I can't quite pinpoint it, but it just didn't scratch the itch it like I'm waiting for N b A basketball.
I'm waiting to see the Lakers get out there and play watching those games.
It just wasn't the same, so I can't wait to see the Lakers finally finally suit up.
It feels like it's been way, way, way too long.
I mean, considering you know that everybody expected him to be playing into April, maybe even made this past season and not to get to see that that you know, not making the playoffs.
So I kind of left us with a void in our lives.
But, like you mentioned training camp just around the corner first preseason game, only about what? Two and 1/2 weeks away right now.
So we're almost there men, and it's an exciting time, especially with all the expectations come in for this team this year.
I mean, this is a team that could and Frank Vogel's mentioned this recently that could potentially contend for a championship.
If things go right, we're gonna talk about that a little bit about what needs to go right for the Lakers.
But given the fact that we're so close, is there anything in particular that you are looking forward to at this point? Anything that you were really I really like can't wait to see, because I've got one thing that's been on my mind lately.
But I'm curious to see if there's anything that you're looking forward to you right now.
I mean, I think the big thing I'm looking forward to seeing and I think you'll start to get a better understanding of this towards the end of the preseason is the chemistry of the team and how things are going to put together.
I'm also interested to see how Frank Vogel, that kind of system, the implements he's coming in as more of a defensive minded coach.
I want to see you kind of what offense he has.
What's the movement they're gonna run if the running of set on dhe kind of see what is set pieces are, But I think that's a big criticism.
My hat of Luke Walton last year was they didn't seem to run a lot of plays like pre designed plays.
It was it was more so like, Here's your motion offense.
So it'll be interesting to see how creative Frank Vogel was.
An end is with the roster that they have here.
Yeah, I bet you that.
I think the play they rain was Here's the ball, LeBron and go to go do something with it.
That was, that was their play.
Most of them know they had some sets and things like that that Iran they ran a few actions to get like a C P something coming off of a curl or are the things of that nature.
They had some backdoor cuts built in for calm Cosmo and things like that, but but a lot of it was kind of just LeBron read and react and figure things out and go from there or really fast paced and and then actually leads me right into what? My big thing that I wanna watches and that's the team's pace.
I mean, I'm curious to see what happens here, because this is a team that was fourth and faced last season has been known under the Luke Walton reign of for just running, running, running as fast as they can because they didn't have the half court offense that could score efficiently.
And so they had to mitigate that by getting points in transition whenever and however possible, which look, it's It's a good strategy for young teams tohave because they've got young legs they can run all day.
And in transition.
Offense tends to score more points per possession than half court offense does.
Even the some of the worst transition teams, the worst the they have the worst efficiency in transition are right up there with the top efficient teams in terms of half court offense.
So not a bad strategy for them to have, but it's what they had to do.
So I'm curious now with Frank Vogel at the helm and you've got more veterans.
You've got course, LeBron.
But then Anthony Davis, he's not gonna be sprinting full court the entire time.
JaVale McGee can can do it a little bit, but then you have these other other veterans that they brought in guys like like Avery Bradley.
And of course, you've got Alex Caruso out.
There's not gonna be flying up and down the floor.
Uh, all these pieces.
Obviously, it's gonna be interesting to see what pace the Lakers play out are they? Do they become one of the slower teams in the league? Because I think that that could happen.
I think you hit the nail on the head.
I mean, with the team's age being what it is, and I think if you look at the skill set of most of the players, I would probably go with a bit of a slower pace this season.
I think the public be maybe in the in the early twenties around there just because, I mean, you're push the ball obviously whenever you can.
But like you mentioned, you look at the makeup of the roster.
Who there stands out to you other than maybe 80 and I mean all of the medium abroad of the obvious ones.
But in terms of the role players, that is, well, that guy's an athletic free.
You could jump out of the gym, and he's sprinting up and down the court like not a lot of high flyers.
Not a lot of that, that young, bouncy legs that you see on on on certain other teams.
So I I would expect Frank Global to try and run things a little bit slower.
And that's why I think getting back to saying the half court offense to me is gonna be the big thing that I'm gonna keep an eye out for. Especially the preseason.
It's going to take time.
I mean, half court offense isn't something that comes together overnight.
We look and even just this, this starting lineup.
I mean, this could be four new starters, right? I mean, we're looking at Danny Green will be a starter.
We don't know if Kyle Kuzma will be in the starting lineup or not.
LeBron is the only certain from last season to start.
It may not be Javale McGee.
It could be Dwight Howard in the middle.
We don't know that for sure.
Yet we're keeping our fingers crossed.
And right now I'm hoping that it's not Raj on Rondo starting at point guard for the Lakers.
That it's instead, maybe an Avery Bradley or somebody like that could do it.
Alex Alex Caruso get his name in there, but it's going to take time for this team to jelling and click, So I'm interested to see what they roll out there right from the beginning.
Just one of things I want to get into in this show is the mail bag, and the way we do this is if you guys go on to apple podcasts and you leave us a review and we you know we love the five star reviews when we get him.
If you leave us a review, you toss your question and there will make sure we cover it on the show.
I've got a few that have built up here We also threw it out on Twitter, so we'll address questions from both sides here.
But the 1st 1 I thought was kind of interesting on this is from L.
So I think some numbers being thrown in.
And there's some pertinent Lakers numbers.
A Trevor, I love your show.
But I want to ask if you think the 2004 Olympic team would have won the gold had Kobe Bryant been a part of the team.
Thanks and cheers from New Mexico.
So I thought this was an interesting one, especially given what happened with with feeble play and jazzy.
I didn't discuss this question with you before head of time, but do you think, or do you recall who was on that team where you can make a judgment call on whether or not Kobe could have helped him win gold there? Yeah, they were pretty sack.
I mean, I know Iverson.
I remember him being on the team.
I want to say Jermaine O'Neal, LeBron at the young LeBron was there.
Carmelo was Carmelo part of that team, too.
Uh, Carmelo Anthony? Yes, he was pretty pretty good, right there just the way we run down the roster.
So we've got Allen Iverson, Stefan Marbury, Dwayne Wade, Carlos Boozer.
Hold that, uh, Carmelo Anthony LeBron James a mecha Okafor Meco before remember shaman Mary and start a fire.
Tim Duncan, Lamar Odom Mellow and Richard Jefferson.
And that's the team that infamously won the bronze medal and had everybody up in arms.
So what do you think? You had Kobe to that bunch? Do they become a gold medal team? Yeah, I would say so.
I mean, if you look at that roster and they came up short, I'm looking it up now.
They came up short against Argentina, which was a very good team at that time, I believe with Manu Ginobili.
Luis Scola, Those guys, um I think Kobe would help.
I mean, you look at that.
That team was pretty damn sack.
I mean, yeah, I like you mentioned Tim Duncan and these guys, but they needed an older guy, maybe on the perimeter to run things.
So I think Yeah, I would say, definitely wouldn't want gold to Kobe was playing.
What about you? Yeah.
I mean, look, 2000 for Kobe.
We're talking about that was near just blow up Kobe.
That was That was like immortal Kobe, Kobe, They can't be stopped.
That was that version of Kobe Bryant.
So you throw him in there, you have to believe they would have a pretty darn good shot at getting it done.
But when I look at the makeup of this roster, I think, What do they need? Well, they've got wing players. They've got LeBron.
They've got Carmelo Anthony.
They've got Dwayne Wade.
They even know Dwayne's.
Dwayne Wade's not a great outside shooter, anything like that.
But you've got Olympic mellow.
Shawn Marion could defend real well on the perimeter there.
Richard Jefferson was pretty underrated at that point.
Obviously, is not Kobe, but I look at this team like, Okay, you've got a point guard.
You've got Allen Iverson that Stefan Marbury.
You don't have any.
You've got scores.
You don't have anybody who is really great at setting up teammates except for maybe the LeBron James.
So when I look at what Kobe would have to do, what I think he could do this, you would almost have to convert him into like a point guard version of Kobe, which we actually saw him do, Ah little bit when the Lakers were being coached by Mike D'Antoni back in that snakebit season, when they had when they had White and when they had Steve Nash and Steve Nash got hurt.
And then Kobe kind of took on that role.
There were, like nine inch at nine or 10 games where Kobe was averaging double digit assists, where he became the point guard.
And you could just see this glimpse of what he could be if he had dedicated his game toe to play more like Magic Johnson instead of Michael Jordan.
Like there's an alternate reality somewhere where Kobe at Kobe's game evolved more along the Magic Johnson lying season.
I think that maybe it's asking a lot, but if you had done that, then that team really could've been something special.
Yeah, they they seem to be lacking, like you mentioned a floor general, somebody who's gonna be ableto get the ball on top of the key.
Maybe, you know, tell us certain guys were to go.
Are you mentioned? Mean Iverson? Marbury? Those guys were a shoot first point guards. Kobe.
Obviously, it's a shoot first guy.
But I think on a team like that he would have taken on more of a leadership role and kind of understood that, Hey, we gotta facilitate the offense.
And at that time, the game was way different, so I would have been feeding Tim Duncan the ball in the post hell all game, You know what I mean? And just open it up with the rest of us on the outside like a like a Jason Kidd They could have used on that group.
Somebody um Okay, let's move on to the next one here.
And this one is coming in from, um, user name is by magic with the exclamation point.
Not a fan of Magic Johnson on this person says Not a big fan on Denise is take on DeMarcus cousins in East Jones was on the show a few weeks ago.
Even if she was setting him up, you probably shouldn't say you're going Thio going to say the thing that he said talked about putting a bullet in someone's head. Not a great take.
We had talked about how the market, because it was kind of being set up with the whole situation that he's got going on now with this legal situation with him potentially threatening an X over the phone and and all of that, I get that side of it.
It's a tough spot to be in.
People have been asking for updates.
There are no updates.
We haven't heard anything just yet.
Yes, she was probably baiting DeMarcus cousins a little bit.
She she's recording the phone calls, so maybe he said something like that before.
But ultimately you can't say those things.
You can't do it.
No, I mean, that's it's It's wrong and ridiculous and it's part I understand you're upset, you know, being you're the mother of your child, too. And they have.
They have their own issues between them and their personal things.
But you can't be threatening to shoot anyone in the head.
You know what I mean? And putting a bullet in their head and that under any circumstances is not okay.
So what? And yeah, you're right.
You know what? You might have been setting him up.
Regardless, he's gotta show more restraint than that, especially being in the position that he's not.
Not that it makes it any worse.
but being in a high profile position like that, it could cost you about making one dumb mistake.
And in today's world, where people have their phones out and you could record anything and you can, you know, use the video audio, whatever the hell it is you want, I think you've got to be a little bit more smart about the things you're saying, especially in that kind of aesthetic. Absolutely.
Just not a good look for Boogie cousins buddy again.
We wish him well, Hopefully, he heals up and I can resume his n b a career at some point because it is unfortunate what's going on with him in the A C.
Um, speaking of ridiculous James from Rancho, do you think the Lakers should entertain trading for Chris Paul? Credible former Clipper? The Clippers started like brain and former Lakers.
Should the Lakers entertain trained well.
Oh, yeah, I mean, I guess we'll throw this out here.
They can't just in terms of because of the salary cap, the way that all plays out.
Chris, Paul, wait makes way too much money.
In fact, at the top of my head, I want to say he makes 37 million.
Let me double check that right now, but it goes out 47.
What's that? It's going up to 40 in the last year of the contractor.
Someone? Yeah, and so they they're not in a situation.
Okay, so he's actually 38,000,038 5 this season, 41 3 next season, and then he has a player option Hit 2021 2022 for 44 million, 1.
So just because of that, though, they're not trading for Chris Paul.
They actually are right now scheduled to have cap space in 2021.
Hopefully, Anthony Davis is eating up some of that on the roster, but they could have cap room to go after somebody in 2021 but I don't see that happening.
Even if it were possible.
If they somehow magically could make this make a deal work where Chris Paul salary wasn't prohibitive of a trade.
I don't know. I I don't know that it would happen.
I mean, the Lakers could use a point guard and everything and Chris Paul would certainly be an incredible find.
But I just don't see them giving up assets in order to go get him.
And they don't really have much left to trade.
They don't have a first left that they can really deal.
I just don't see it.
Yeah, I think he would be worth a flyer, depending on the again.
Like you said, the asking price that they don't have any first round picks.
Okay, See, is hoarding right now like crazy? Was Sam Presti there? So I don't know.
I don't assume that they would do, but I think he would be a very good fit on this roster.
I think with the way it's it's set up and the age and the composition and the types of players they have, we're like we mentioned.
You're not gonna be running helter skelter.
Push the push the ball up and down the court.
They're gonna be remorse of a halfcourt focus team.
Not to say they're not gonna score 110 points a game, but you would have him kind of facility.
Anything with LeBron, which would make it a user on him and 80 kind of roaming around.
That would be pretty dangerous.
I mean, look, if he was a free agent if somehow he got bought out.
Sure, absolutely no problem.
You could definitely do that.
Working a trade, I think, is the pickup.
And I'm not saying he's going to get bought out because he's not.
I mean, the thunder.
They're not gonna buy a contract of that size.
You'd have to pay the guy to not play for you to go play for someone else's. Insanely.
The Memphis Grizzlies are paying Dwight Howard what $3 million to not play basketball for them to go play for the Lakers because of the the Buyout You three million.
But that's a tough pill to swallow, but the amount that Chris Paul is owed that Zach's not happen.
Yeah, uh, let's move on here.
You got a few more questions coming into the mail bag.
So let's talk about them.
Um, one of these came in via Twitter here, a few people asking about the starting lineup and things of that nature.
Uh, let's see here, uh, at Robert, Arts said, Should Iggy become available, who should the Lakers cut in order to make room for him? So let's say Andre Iguodala somehow gave Figures out a buyout with the Memphis Grizzlies.
Becomes a free agent.
Tells the Lakers I want to come join your team.
You're on Ross Response.
Who do you cut, Booth? Ah, Daniels.
Maybe I would probably go with my head going to be the most logical, logical fit.
But I think that once they once the season gets going, and I think that's another thing you know, going back to your original question we're talking about on here.
But what we're excited to see is or any of these guys gonna step up and separate themselves from the others in terms of the logjam they have with, you know, KCP Alex Caruso, Quinn cook.
You know, every Bradley, all these guys.
So I think whatever you know, guys is playing the worst out of them.
Or maybe he wasn't a good fit.
They're gonna have to go. What about you? Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, look, they are stacked at the guard position.
I don't mean stacked in terms of top and talent.
They're stacked with a lot of guys that air.
Okay, Nobody that's really made a leap just yet, so it's gonna be really interesting to see how all that plays out.
I think Troy Daniels is a is a good idea there because you've got Look, they agreed with Troy Daniels very early before they even do if they were getting quite Leonard or anything like that.
And so you didn't know if you were gonna get, like a Danny Green and Quinn Cook and these other players that they were able to bring in Avery Bradley.
You didn't know if you were gonna have money to spend on those guys.
So getting Troy Daniels at that moment a few days before the Kawai thing made a lot of sense.
Once the CA y thing came down and suddenly we knew that the Lakers had money to spend and they went and spent it on guys who can play.
The same position is Troy Daniels.
Suddenly, he made a lot less sense.
So I get why you would you target him as your guy? I think the other one that I want to throw out.
There's DeMarcus cousins.
Do you just decide? Hey, he's probably done for the season.
You're not going to use his salary and a trade.
They have, of course, requested a the disabled player exception.
So they are hoping to get, I believe, 1.
75 million for that.
And if they were toe wave him before using that money, then that money would go away.
But that if under a windowless says I am ready to sign right now, Losing that 1.
75 million, which will be really tough to use anyway, might not prohibit you from doing that.
And depending on where you are in the season, potentially, you could even use that money on Iguodala.
And although you'd have to cut somebody else to bring him in, gets complicated.
But the bottom line I think you did the markets cousins or Troy Daniels would be the way to go there.
Yeah, I agree with you.
I mean, if you could get if you get out of the whole bloody thing and knowing that you could still open up the roster spot in the N B.
You know, it's a part of the rules and stuff them.
Yeah, I think it would be like you said you did.
You got So word came out today that Iman Shumpert turned down the Rockets offer and I saw people speculating this, Jess, I don't know if you've seen the Navy contract.
Keith Smith and I were talking about this over on the N B.
A front office show.
What, you guys should definitely check out Crazy contract Just now.
I don't know how Daryl Morey pulled this off, but basically he's got all of these incentives in the contract, All these bonuses that have made it so that they're likely bonuses if he's on the Rockets.
And so his value to the Rockets is 10 million, but they're unlikely bonuses to just about any other team in the league, so his value to those teams is only about 2.
So, in essence, what it means is that a team can send out a lot more money than they're bringing back for nine days.
So I'm wondering if they tried to do the same thing with them on Shumpert, who has said he turned down an offer from the Houston Rockets, and now he's really hitting the free agent market.
Uh, from the Lakers perspective, Mike Tackle said, Do you think we should consider Shumpert? If Gigi is not an option? And then uh at trafficker, said Iman.
Shumpert declined contract with Rockets.
Is he a good enough wing defender for L.
A to add? So Iguodala, for whatever reason, isn't an option.
Can't get free the Memphis Grizzlies, where he does.
Then he decides to go somewhere else.
Do you turn to of on Shepherd? I would.
I would definitely look at him.
I think he's a guy who could who could fit this roster again.
You're looking at it in the sense that you're picking up somebody who's gonna add to that log jam you already have right now.
I mean, we've mentioned that a few times already today, so I think for a guy like Shumpert who brings in but the X factor that he has and this is something obviously Iguodala would bring us well is his defense of the building.
And I think that something on the Lakers, you don't really have that guy.
You can say you could put him on on one of the team's top scores and you give them a little bit of fit for whatever time he's on the court.
And I think that's that's something Shumpert actually does really fit that the Lakers would need.
So for me again, Iggy is probably choice number one, But he's not a bad second option, cause I think that that defensive wing and and a guy who could hit some open threes to when he's there, he's showing that the capability of doing that throughout his career.
So I think he's the guy they would they would definitely have to look after.
What about you? Yeah, I think you have to consider him 29 years old, so he's still he's not that.
I mean, Andre would always be 36 here, so he's not, uh, Shepherd's a lot closer to his prime.
Uh, for the Houston Rockets last season, he didn't shoot very well, and that was an issue needed.
Well, he didn't shoot well for the, uh, Sacramento Kings, either.
But on the season, 35% from three passable take that.
That's That's not like extraordinary anything like that.
But you take it from three Point Land and he shot 4.
4 threes per game.
This is combined Sacramento in Houston for basketball reference, but only shot 37% from the field overall, which is pretty bad.
That's that's good.
He's not a good shooter.
I can rebound the ball a little bit, but the big thing that he could bring in some wing defence, I think they do need another wing defender.
We've talked all about that, and if he would L A truly is off the market, then That's definitely a guy that I would look at.
We got did have a question.
Come in here on on Sportscaster at M C M C 12 said If we don't get Andre and Lakers want a small forward? Do you go mellow J.
Smith or Shumpert out of that grouping? I'm I'm looking at Shumpert most probably first and foremost, and then after that, I don't know.
Would you go with that? Yeah, man, would you go? Oh, um, I think I go mellow because I think he's more of a three than a.
I think I think Melo can bring a little bit more of what the Lakers would need at that point. J. R. Smith.
I think they're already kind of stacked up to, So I don't think I really need that unless you're convinced you can play the three.
So that's how I would go with you the same way.
Yeah, Yeah, I would.
But the exact I mean, J R.
Smith, I don't know what potential you would hear what he would bring other than maybe littering the basketball.
But, uh uh I don't know if I go with Jay.
I mean, I would definitely go shop for one thing, the exact same orders you.
So we've got We're doing these of these player previews as we're leading up to, uh, to start training camp.
We're doing them for Lakers Nation.
We've got an article going up every day to go along with the video that I'm creating on each player.
I just did one the other day on Jared W.
And I knew and even addressed in the video.
I said, I want to get into this.
I want to talk about why the Lakers signed your don't.
They're not Carmelo Anthony, because I know there's gonna be people asking that.
And before people even viewed the video, I'm getting all these responses.
They signed mellow.
Why did they get Dudley? It should have been mellow and all that.
Look, Carmilla way, This is not the same Carmelo Anthony that you remember from five years ago.
This is a different Carmelo.
Anything that you're seeing right now, I still think he could be a good player.
I just don't like the fit with the Lakers, but anyway, that's kind of off topic, I guess.
Yeah, well, you know, we we talk about mellow.
I think pretty much every time we do we do this.
We get a ton of a ton of people asking those questions about him to always said, Stay away from him.
Wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole when it comes to this rock.
So I just think his best days are done.
And mentally, it's the issue you have with Dwight Howard, right? If he's willing to come in and accept the rule that he's given and know that he's not an MBA superstar anymore, you can help the team win, especially contending team.
But the big question with him has been, you look at his last three stops has been Is he willing to do what's better for the team and he hasn't shown that he has It gets, so he's going to stuck without without a squad for yet another year.
Yeah, it's where you're at.
I mean, if you're a team like the Lakers and you're looking at Carmelo Anthony and you're looking at Jerry W look at what Jared Dudley did.
Is he great? No, but he at least has some gravity.
When he's standing up behind the three point line, he pretty much only shoots threes.
Now he steps in any takes charges, plays gritty defense.
He played 20 minutes a game last season for the Brooklyn Nets and average four shots, four shots per game, and he played 20 minutes.
Pernetti think Carmelo Anthony would be happy with that? Probably not.
Jared Dudley doesn't care how many times he shoots the ball.
It's not what he's there for it.
So I think that's why they ended up ultimately going with him.
Despite Look, I said this on the video that I that I did.
If it was a game of one on one.
Jared Dudley versus Carmelo Anthony and my life is on the line.
I'm taking Carmelo Anthony.
His skill set fits that better.
But in a team setting, Jared Dudley was the right choice.
I believe that look, he's not as talented.
There's no question, but I think Dudley is the better fit.
I like what he brings to the team.
Two men, he's He's a great team guy.
You know what I mean? One of those will cheer you on from the bench.
You mean he's not playing? You'll be happy and doing his thing.
And when he comes out there, he works his tail off.
And so I agree with you.
I think he's Ah, I think he's a much better fit right now and in the future and will be going forward in history.
Over Carmelo in history, Forward in history.
Yeah, back to the future.
Uh, add Freddie Stack said.
I believe Kyle Kuzma is the key to winning the title this year.
Is he ready to challenge for six Man of the year? So Freddie is assuming that Cosmo is coming off the bench, which we don't know for sure.
We haven't seen Frank Vogel's rotation, but could happen.
So if Cruz was coming off the bench, do you see him Jazz as a six man of the year contender? I think if he is, the Lakers were gonna be a top two or three seed in the West pressure and definitely have a shot at the championship.
We talked about that.
I think once before it, either on the previous one or two episodes ago tonight was on the show with you is that he is gonna be the huge key now, especially with boogie cousins who I had the huge expectations for coming in another year recovery after the the torn Achilles that he had and coming back.
And I thought, You know what? He's gonna be the Lakers third option.
And now, because of what's happened with him, you have Kyle Cruise most sitting there, and I think to me you will know within the 1st 15 games of Kyle Kuzma has taken a leap or not right.
He's got to be a more consistent three point shooter.
He's got to be a better defender overall, But to me, what he brings to the team is a thing that is sorely needed.
Off the bench is a scorer, men, and then that's where he he's gonna be counted on.
So I think I don't want to say yes that he's ready to jump into the sixth man of the year.
You know conversation yet, but I think we'll have our answer pretty quick into the season.
Yeah, that's a great point.
We'll find out fast exactly how much Kuzma has improved and he will improve as the season goes on. He's still young.
You could still grow as the season goes on, but he's got an opportunity here.
And if he does come off the bench, I think the great thing is that it's very, very clear what coo Koos Ma's rule is.
We know exactly what the Lakers needed.
It's not like they're gonna be giving in the balls saying, Hey, we want you to go create offense.
We want you to go create an open up teammates than and then hit them with A with a perfect pass.
That's not the game they're expecting out of Kyle Kuzma.
They want him to play good defense on the perimeter.
They want him to make smart cuts to the basket.
So when teams were just dumbfounded watching LeBron James and Anthony Davis, they forget about Koosman.
He he made a killing doing that last season, so he already knows how to do that, and they wanted to hit open threes.
If he could do those three things, he's gonna be just fine.
And if he could just stay within himself and focus on doing those three things, then sure, at its ceiling I could see Cruz make being in that sixth Man of the Year race.
Otherwise, I don't know. We'll see.
It depends on how efficient he is.
It depends on how much the shot is dropping, although I will say that I was excited by what we saw in fee, but by the limited amount of Kyle Kuzma that we saw, it seemed like he was very locked into that type of a roll.
Defense cuts three point shots if he could do that with the Lakers and can continue with what we saw already this summer that I think we could be in for a big season from Kyle Kuzma.
Oh yeah, that's where I think he's got to be the key because you look at all that young talent that they had just a year ago and, you know, even a few months ago on that roster and you're like he's the one that made it and the team was apparently insisting not, you know, including him in any of the packages because they did still need some scoring death.
And so the organization took a leap of faith with him.
The fans are excited to see it.
The question is, will you step up? Because the struggles he had last year were a parent and there they were there early, and we saw that all the way through.
So I I think one thing with who's you can never say he dogs it.
He always worked hard, and you've seen that with LeBron, and you almost has this this mental edge.
I didn't see Alonso or B I lot.
Outwardly, it might have been like, you know, in terms of internally with but with them, with whose It's like he has his effort, that he wants to be the best and he wants to, You know what I mean? Put that time.
And so I think, having LeBron with them, I'm excited to see if he does take the lead.
If he doesn't, I think it's gonna be a huge boat, a bit of Lakers, because who do you have a juror as your third consistent scoring threat? At that point? Yeah, that's a good question If if Kuzma doesn't hit that ceiling, if he doesn't really pop, who is your next scoring option? Is it? I mean, JaVale McGee can score on drop off passes.
And things like that is not gonna create offense for you, is it? Is Avery Bradley? Can he create some looks? Danny Green.
It needs other guys to create those looks for him.
He's a spot up shooter.
That's a great question.
Who does become their next option? If if Carl Koosman doesn't step up, obviously they're going to need him to also just I'm impressed.
Maybe bewildered, Dumbfounded.
I don't know that you got through that.
That whole talk about Karl Kruse was mentality, and not once did you say Mamba mentality.
I did not say now that you brought it up.
Next time for Tikal Guzman.
I will definitely say Mama mama mentality for Kyle Kuzma.
Uh, Jazz list does that good? I said he does have it.
I mean, he does happen to me if he shows that he cares, and you could see it in him that he wants to improve as a basketball player.
So I'm excited to see if he's ready to take that step.
Yeah, we'll see what we get out of college Cruise.
But I think the biggest question I have right now about Kyle Kuzma is his haircut.
Yeah, that's what I like bomb.
Look on him, though.
I do like you still young, but I mean, you can't get away with that.
Probably at 30 and your mid 20 just don't use to locate you like the look.
You think he's gonna He's good with that one.
Yeah, he's, what, 24 years old living in Los Angeles playing the Lakers? Do what he wants? That's true.
Do it while you can, that's for sure.
Uh, let's talk about tampering.
The Lakers are always seem to be connected with tampering.
Every team in the league thinks the Lakers or tampering like crazy.
If you talk to fans of other teams, anybody, the Lakers or just the evil empire when it comes to tampering and there constantly breaking all the rules and how dare they and all this? Uh, And now we're hearing that chomps Theron from Sham Ceremony of the athletic said this a few days ago that the N v a is investigating tampering and trying to come up with some ways and looks like it's gonna happen.
They're gonna come up some increased fines and things like that in order to try to get rid of tampering.
And they're going to ask every team owner to personally sign off and guarantee that all the moves they made during the season were on the up and up and that there was no tampering or any kind of wrong doing any of that, which I think is utterly ridiculous.
But they are looking at doing something like that and instantly all these comments started flying at us on Twitter about, you know, clearly, this is aimed at the Lakers.
No, this is aimed at the entire league.
Look at the Boston Celtics were in agreement with Kemba Walker like 36 hours before free agency began.
And they weren't.
That's not just my anti Celtics bias coming out.
There were a bunch of teams doing this.
Everybody was doing it.
It's not just the Lakers team, but it was epically bad.
Look for the NBA's this season because it's felt like it was so brazen, but I guess getting my point here Jazz.
I don't know that the NBA's can really fix this.
No, you can and and it's like it's like having a pet dog right where the dog, you leave something out when there's a piece of food or something, you know, like a chicken sitting on the table, you get to if he just waits till you're not around and and does it find Nobody knows that? Even a question it But the NBA's agents and and the G m's in the player? Man, they were like you said, like they were just flaunting it like, Hey, we got our deal is done We're gonna announce a forehand.
It's like, Dude, you can't you know, be a little bit smarter about it in terms of trying to stay within the rules and that kind of set up that the MPs.
But at the same time, it's kind of like okay, if you're gonna try and fix temporary, I don't know how they, like you mentioned how you do that.
You cannot stop players from recruiting each other.
They just simply text each other.
They can call each other.
They could do whatever the hell they d m each other on Instagram, whatever it is they want to do.
But to let legislate tempering is dumb.
I think they should just have it say, Like I said, 48 hours after the n B A finals ends the wind.
The negotiating window is open and you can start announcing deals right then.
But you can't officially signed, Let's say until July wonders, because this whole thing of trying to fix it and it's just not gonna work.
Well, the they can't sign.
They technically can't sign until the moratorium and so that that's a real place.
But they can come to a verbal agreements.
But the rule is they can't even be talking before then and there.
But I mean, look, even you go back years ago and then look opening up a painful wound here.
But it was like 904 and that it was announced that the Lakers had come to an agreement with Tina Fey.
Ma's got Now, that's I mean, look, that's their grills.
That probably wasn't a lot of negotiating in that one.
That was Hey, we'll give you 64 million for four years and Moskow said yes.
I mean, that was that probably only took 30 seconds to come together, But still, the bottom line is this has been happening for a long time.
It was just more brazen this year and even further in advance of the free agency window door.
It actually happened before the buzzer even sounded.
We were hearing about deals that were in agreement.
That team's already knew who was going where and everything.
That's a bad look for the league.
But like you, said team toe player, maybe you can legislate that someone kind of but player to player that there's no way and no, and to get to a bigger point here.
It's human nature.
It's human nature for players.
If they're going to get together, what are they going to talk about? They're going to talk about work.
We talked about work.
We talked about what's going on.
We talked about sports media and all that kind of stuff.
It's what you do because it's such a big part of your life.
If you put a bunch of people from any profession and that that they share all together in a room they're gonna talk about that commonality that they have, And so there's no way to stop player to player tampering.
They're going to be talking about things.
They're going to be talking about situations that guy's going to say, Hey, I really love it over here in Brooklyn with the Nets.
This and this are owners doing this and maybe this would be a great place for you to come play.
Those sorts of things are gonna happen.
I don't think there's any way for them to legislate it out, at least anyway, that I'm comfortable with without the NBA's going full big brother on the entire league.
Yeah, it's just a dumb It's a dumb thing like what you gonna do, say everybody, Give us your icloud passwords and we're gonna go check it out.
You can't You just can't do it.
And especially in this day and age, you know what, 20 years ago, sure you can let you stayed out tampering you because people can connect like they used to.
Now, what's to stop Rob link up going to LeBron James and a LeBron uh, send a honest A text and tell him we want him here and, you know, in a couple of years, we needs a free agent.
You can't stop it.
So to me, I think the NBA's would be an MBA and a much better job in this.
I feel like the other Big Three professional North American sports in terms of adapting to the times and changing with what's going on.
So I think if the MBA knows this is going to be an issue and it's going to happen, just change the just change the period that you could say you can open up now, start negotiating.
If you want to do verbal deals, go ahead.
But you can't sign.
Tell July 1st, and I think that solves the problem.
It's not a bad look that your witch hunting, you know, the Lakers or doing anything that I don't think anybody can complain about that.
But to try and legislate out tampering in 2019 is ridiculous.
When there's so many forms of communication that we have now to be able to talk to one another, yeah, exactly, they're going to figure out a way around it.
People have burner burner phones, burner Twitter accounts now in all sorts of things. So, yeah.
What? You're murdered her account, and I'll take satar.
I'm not gonna tell you otherwise.
How am I gonna be able to make all those great comments about stuff? That's that's funny.
Somebody sending me some hate tweets on there.
I wonder if it's you right now.
You'll see, uh, at M c M c 12 humping it with our chat again here saying, If you have to give Alex Caruso and N B A to K rating for the last part of last season, what would you give him? So So Captain America himself? Alex Caruso.
What n b a to K rating do you give him? Based off his last couple months, he only he only played 25 games last season for the lake is actually the guy that I'm doing a recording a video on later tonight.
That's gonna be up a little while.
But if you had to give him a to K reading what it be, I would say 83 83.
I mean A for a guy that was in the D League for a good chunk of the season.
That's pretty high.
Um, I'm gonna go home or something.
That's more based on his actual skill level.
And I'm gonna go with 99.
It's Alex Caruso, the bald mom by Captain America.
Dude, that is that he's our guy.
Alex Caruso as a real shot at.
Maybe winning us for a starting spot this season is gonna be interesting to see how that all plays out.
Oh, yeah, just s so one of the things that's got me really fired up is the Lakers recently posted a video, some video footage of the guys working out there.
They're in the building there at the U. C. L. A health center.
They are training.
They're getting ready. They're out there on the floor.
Everybody looks great.
They've got They've got their new Lakers gear on and all of that.
And it's like this little taste, this little taste of what's coming.
But I'm so excited to see these guys out there working and you've got Danny Green was out there.
You could see LeBron going up and down the floor.
All these players are out there showing their stuff.
Did you catch that? Did you? Did you see the clip that I'm talking about.
I did, Yeah, I saw.
I saw the video.
I was I was excited to see it, too.
And it's good, because I mean, these guys already working together It's not like it's not, you know, totally at another n b a team to do this as well.
But LeBron, as you were mentioning, you know, LeBron is getting the guys ready together up in ah, in Vegas for a few days to get ready.
So I'm excited that I'm excited to see how this all fits and how this all works.
Because last year the expectation was that it's gonna be a bumpy start and then things will start to get better.
And it kind of took that trajectory up until Christmas.
And then after Christmas, it just fell off a cliff.
But this year, I think they have the right mental dies with the right mental, you know, mindset.
Sorry, Thio be successful as a squad and I think these guys are gonna fit well together.
The chemistry won't be an issue.
The key, I think for this team is what we'll talk about it in a second.
But yeah, I was excited to see it.
Yeah, it's Ah, it was cool.
Just to see the guys out there and working hard and getting ready for the season And just that kind of the chemistry that they've got already then going away to Vegas together.
I think that's gonna be really, really good for them.
This is gonna be a really exciting season.
But I got to say I'm not used to seeing Dwight Howard out there.
Like when they showed clips of him out there way.
This is It's going to be an adjustment, that's for sure to get used to, like, getting behind Dwight Howard and supporting what did it look, I'm there up here.
But still, when I see him out there on the floor, it takes me back for a second.
I'm like, Whoa, Dwight Howard is a Laker.
This is really happening.
Yeah, but I won't say one thing.
He looks yoke, man.
I mean, that's why he's always does, but it's like it just got different.
Just looks like because he did drop that £25 or whatever, but I mean, he's like he just looks like a machine right now.
So it is a bit weird to see him, cause you're like, remember, that was my first reaction too, Like Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, that's why you know, you know what I mean.
But, um, I'm excited to see how how he responds and how he handles what's gonna be a pressure situation for a mere because the fans are gonna be very forgiving.
We know that that some people out there still hate white and they're still, you know, don't want any part of the purple and gold.
So, uh, interesting to see if he's actually growing up.
Or if that was just lip service, he was given the spot.
Yeah, and you know what? Here's the thing.
If he if he lasts, we're not really gonna know until, like January February.
That's when things get tough.
And when players start getting cranky and in all that, as the seasons you continue going on, it becomes more of a grind.
I think that's what if anything's gonna happen.
I think that's when it's gonna happen.
Yeah, well, um, let's finish with this.
What are the Lakers need to get right in? Orderto have success this season, and I'm talking about making a deep playoff run.
What needs to go right for this team.
I'm not going to say they're gonna gonna win a championship or anything like that.
But in order to make a deep layer from that's at least second round, what did they need to see go right this season and we'll start with you.
Well, then we'll go back and forth over some ideas.
Well, I think you know all things being considered injuries obviously gonna be number one, which it is for any team.
In any professional sport, you can't lose your best players.
The injuries to me.
I think the biggest thing that this team has to focus on and why I feel like Frank Vogel will do a good job of this is the defense event.
They were. They were getting a little bit better last year.
Obviously, the rosters completely turned over.
You have a lot of older guys Might not have that kind of spring that they could do it all 82 games.
So I think figuring out a system defensively that matches his personnel is gonna be huge for their seem in order to make a run far.
What about you? Yeah, agree.
Definitely, the defense is going to be key.
I think they're going to have to figure out a way to get stops because you are gonna need some transition buckets.
No, they're not gonna be flying up and down the floor.
But at the very least, if you can can get a stop, and then you can force teams in the mismatches because they're having to scramble to recover.
They can't always get back to their man.
And that's when you can at least take advantage of a mismatch you may not be getting.
Ah, lay up in the fast break.
We We don't have long snowball throwing touchdown passes ahead to Cow Koosman anymore.
So you're not gonna be getting like layups off a place like that quite so much.
But you can still force teams in the mismatches because oh, no.
You know, LeBron suddenly has the ball and it's DeAndre.
Jordan happens to be the closest defender to him.
And so now you've got this big, lumbering center trying to stick with LeBron James or whatever.
You can get mismatches by doing that, so I think that's gonna be really key.
It's going to be important for their offense that the defense can actually get stops.
What I'm curious to see is what LeBron James shows up.
We've already heard all of these things about LeBron kind of giving this team to Anthony Davis.
He wants to give him his number, but Nike put a stop tonight, at least until next season.
He can't give him that number.
Eyes going to give him 23.
He went to, According to Anthony Davis, LeBron went to Lakers management, talked about how they could run the offense through a d.
So I'm really curious to see what version of LeBron James do we see.
We heard him last summer talking about how the team that they had assembled would allow him to kind of take some of the burden off, that he had playmakers around him and that he wasn't gonna have to do all the heavy lifting.
And then as the season we're on.
Sure enough, he's doing the heavy lifting, so we've heard this kind of before, but he's never had an Anthony Davis out there.
So I'm really curious to see how LeBron handles this season and just how much of a back seat he takes to Anthony Davis, and I wonder how long that'll that'll go on for, because it's gonna come to a point and especially as you get towards Mars, may be really late February early March, where, all right, there's five teams, bunch of the standings that are three games apart.
And so you're gonna need LeBron to turn it on to another level.
And the one concern I do have for LeBron, even though I think he's one of the 10.
5 players in the league, still is the injury status.
I mean, like I said last year, you know you can't fight that kind of stuff in At 35 years old, you're more susceptible to it than you are a 30 you are a 25.
And so last year, the first time we did see, like the human side of LeBron James a goddamn.
This guy doesn't miss games because he's actually hurt, not just because he's he's taking some time on, so I think that's gonna be the key for him is managing the load right? But I also think you don't want to give You don't want to play too differently.
In the beginning, of the season as you are at the end.
You know what I mean? Like, you can't just go from being very, very passive to being over dominating the aggressive because everybody is gonna be used to that.
So I think he's gonna have to finesse that the right way in order order in order for him to take a bit of a back seat but still be the leader on the team.
It's a whole new world for LeBron James.
It's what happens.
Father time is undefeated.
You've got to figure out a way to adapt and adjust and still be effective.
It's the way, Coz you don't recover as fast, the older that you get.
I'm sure you felt a jazz.
I've I've certainly felt it.
I don't recover nearly as fast as I used to be used to used to.
I could play basketball 56 nights a week.
Now there's no chance.
Uh, so not that we're performing on a level anywhere near LeBron James or anything like that, But recovery is gonna be a little bit more tricky for him.
He's gonna have to make sure that he's treating his body right and playing smart and doing what he needs to do.
And that may mean taking a bit more of a back seat and kind of picking his spots.
We've seen that he is still capable of dropping some impressive stat lines and being an effective player, even if he's not doing everything.
And hopefully the Lakers have assemble roster that will allow him do not have to do every single thing out there on the floor.
Oh, I was just gonna say, you know, with that again, I think he has to.
I still think yes, it put and he will behind the scenes.
But I think on the court especially, he has to make it like, put his stamp on the squad that I got 80 were one in one, eh? I'm not going to sit back to too much.
I might, you know, defending it for playing.
The Bulls are playing, you know, Cleveland Cavaliers or something might take it.
Take it easy, but he's got to really make his stand because people are gonna follow him, right? And I think that's 11 thing with him last year was it was very apparent that he wasn't trying too hard defensively.
And I think when when? When some of the young guys were seeing that, You know, you could say, Well, they have to do their own thing.
But use the leader of the team And so when they're saying that they might be thinking, Hey, you know, not that it's okay to take place off, but we're on defense.
Only go about 80% of weeks.
I'm saving, you know, conserving some energy for the offensive end.
So I think it's important for him to give the effort all the time, but find it.
Find the right balance, I think, which, which is gonna be key for this scene? Well, I think that's where Anthony Davis comes, and he already made this comment.
I believe it was to show, Adams said, that the plan is for for 80 80 once, or his goal anyway is to win.
Or maybe this is Chris Haynes to win M v p.
He I'm sorry, defensive MVP offensively will be the defensive player of the year and that he was gonna hold everyone, including LeBron James accountable.
And so that's first of all that's that's huge for the Lakers that they're gonna have their star now in Anthony Davis, who is going to be the one a guy based on what we've heard.
That he is going to be the guy holding everybody accountable in the defense event and that nobody is is exempt from that.
Even LeBron James.
So a deacon really set the tone there on defense, like we said that it's going to be their calling card early on because the offense is gonna take some time for them to figure out what you can play good, hard nosed defense.
You can put forth the effort and in forgot, your star is leading the way.
That's a very, very powerful message that a team consent.
And you know what? That's where, What? Somebody's gotta hold the team accountable.
Obviously, in that regard and eighties, gonna step up and do it.
But again, LeBron has got to be willing to do that, especially on the on the defense event.
So 80 might get on him, but the bronze, the king.
So we got to see if you if you bend the knee a little bit and gives into what a B says so.
Another thing that I think they need to get right is the shooting.
I think that was something that we saw.
It just didn't work last season, and a big part of the why it didn't work is you look into the Lakers brought in.
You brought in rage on Rondo, who actually shot find percentagewise last season from three.
But he's a reluctant shooter.
You bring in a guy like and actually Rondo fired up more threes, then Alex Caruso did, even on a minute basis.
So that's that was kind of interesting to me, But But you brought in guys like Lance Stephenson who shot okay.
Javale McGee is a great three point shooter.
They didn't target shooters because they thought, all right, Kyle Kuzma shot 37% from three.
We can expect an uptick there.
Nope, He went the other way.
He went down to 30%.
Brandon Ingram saw regression is three point percentage.
Lonzo ball increase, but only a little bit.
He was still subpar, went from 18% to 21 percent.
Just about he went from like three loads of Bo didn't didn't make that leap forward.
So the guys they were expecting to shoot well didn't do that.
And that's when things really, really fell apart.
So the thing for the Lakers is gonna be can Danny Green continue to shoot? Well, from three.
Like, we're not expecting to shoot 46% like you did last season.
But at least stay up there.
Can, uh, can Quinn Cook continue to shoot? Well, outside of the Gold State Warrior system, they're gonna need these guys to knock down those open shots.
And that's gonna be so critical for the Lakers offense this season.
So it's not just did you bring in the shooter's? It's now can they perform at the level that you were hoping to get when you signed them? Yeah, and that's and that's gonna be That's exactly gonna be the key.
And you again, we only need one or two of those guys to step up and take control of those positions and those opportunities.
And you mentioned guys that Quinn cook.
I think Avery Bradley has something to offer in terms of being an outside shooter.
You gotta be able to find your spots, find her.
You're comfortable and read and off the other players.
Well, I think Danny Green is great at that.
You'll you'll know where there were to be in and where to cut, depending on which of his teammates has the ball.
So I think shooting and, like you, mentioned shooting and defense, which were a bit of ah, issue.
Both were an issue last year.
I think those are carrying over into this season, but like we said, we'll know in the 1st 10 games where this team is lacking and and, uh, where it's set pretty much for the season.
Yeah, I think it's gonna be interesting to see how it all starts out.
We don't want to overreact early in the season, but still, we're going to get some some good signs.
One way or another from the Lakers will have a decent read.
Any final things that we need to get to Ah, that you think need to go right for the Lakers before we before we call it here.
We just need to fast for until the season get started, because I'm getting itchy to man.
It's like you mentioned I'm excited for this N b A season I think that the amount of not great, but very good teams you have make this probably the most open the NBA's been, you know, in in a long time.
So I'm excited to see what happens in and out of the Lakers fit into that back in order.
I mean, look, this you look at the Western Conference is it's, it's loaded.
You got the Memphis Grizzlies.
They are one team that I think, you know, maybe isn't going to make the playoffs.
I think we can say really confidently.
They're not in playoff picks, the Phoenix Suns, But other than that, we've talked about this.
It looks like everybody else is primed for a playoff run.
Every other team believes they can make it, So it's gonna be interesting to see how that goes down.
Also gonna be be fascinating to see what the Lakers wind up doing, how they fall in the pecking order.
Do teams come out hot and soar up to the top? How the teams react? I can't wait.
Just just start this season already.
Jazz. Let's get this done.
We need to go into hibernation mode until October 18.
Fill it all gets going on the training camp and the preseason that just get going with the game.
It sounds like a plan to me.
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I think we covered just about everything here.
Final thoughts for we before we call it a show.
Like I said, Let's get this.
Let's get the ball tipped and let's get going, man. The season opens.
I got it wrong. It's October 22nd against the Clippers.
Let's get to that.
So we've got about who is so long time.
Five weeks, not a kind of previous is still a long time.
But let's let's get let's get through it.
I'll take pre season basketball.
That'll be over at least a little bit.
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