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00:00:06
All right.
00:00:08
So I guess now you understand what the plan Waas.
00:00:11
Absolutely.
00:00:12
At coleslaw.
00:00:13
We talk Indianapolis Colts football.
00:00:16
We're gonna stick to what we know.
00:00:18
Fundamentals of technique.
00:00:19
1% better every day.
00:00:49
Who going on? So I'm here to talk about this guy right here, Uh, had a military.
00:00:59
So as most of you know, he's missed quite a bit of kicks in the 1st 2 weeks.
00:01:08
What? Three extra points and two field goals in the last two weeks.
00:01:13
And many people will say that it's his fault that the Colts lost the game against the Chargers because of seven points that he left on the board.
00:01:23
Um, hello.
00:01:27
A 60 eh? Welcome to the stream.
00:01:31
Well, here's a little bit of information a lot of people also want to talk about.
00:01:36
You know how his age has a problem.
00:01:38
You know, he's 46 or something, you know, and should be kicking anyhow.
00:01:42
Shouldn't be playing.
00:01:44
I get I get Jacoby here in a little bit.
00:01:48
The first I want to talk about what? What I've got here on the announcement.
00:01:54
Adam Vinatieri's age, I don't think has anything to do with accuracy other than the fact that his age might possibly, um, moment his age has the only issue he has with accuracy is injuries.
00:02:14
Hey.
00:02:15
Might not be able to recoup from his injuries any better.
00:02:20
Any faster.
00:02:21
Might take longer to recoup or possibly coming down with something.
00:02:29
No, no, no.
00:02:30
I'll talk about him here in a little bit, if that's what you want.
00:02:37
Um, I wish I'd have to Kobe beside on there.
00:02:40
That be awesome, wouldn't it? No, no, No problem, man.
00:02:45
I understand.
00:02:46
So he could have, um, a disease, the disease being something that you know, you catch when you get older, you know, I mean, arthritis in the knees.
00:02:59
Bad thing.
00:03:00
And if he's got something on, that is absolutely something that would affect his his pain and accuracy.
00:03:08
However, age itself doesn't have anything do with accuracy.
00:03:11
Age has to do with power, leg strength, stuff like that, You understand? So now I get it that a lot of people think Well, you know, he needs to retire, but we don't know what's going on behind closed doors.
00:03:29
You know, Bennett Terry in the front office might be talking his coaches in him.
00:03:34
The trainers the doctor's things of that nature.
00:03:38
The only issue that I think he needs to do is come clean with himself, the team and they bring out what's going on with the media, to the fans so that we stop sitting here and, you know, just guessing, right? I mean, they said he told uh Who was Stephen Holder of the athletic after the game that he would, you know, be seeing him tomorrow, which is today, and everybody blew that up.
00:04:13
Just made an assumption that Bennett Terry was going to make an announcement.
00:04:16
He's going to retire, man, today's Monday.
00:04:19
Yes, it's there all day.
00:04:20
But if you have an injury, you're going into the complex to get, you know, rehab and stuff done to it.
00:04:29
Ice heat, whatever it is, you know, for medical trainers.
00:04:33
So, yes, he would be seeing them today, right? So, you know, Stephen Holder could have just took that a little bit out of context.
00:04:42
Uh, I don't think he's planning on retiring right now.
00:04:46
He has made a statement that two a couple people, though he's letting his team down. And he is.
00:04:54
He is. He's missing games.
00:04:56
He's the reason why they lost, but or a reason why they lost that first game.
00:05:01
There was multiple reasons why the Colts lost that first game, but just about three hours ago, Pat McAfee I just got done with his Pat McAfee show his podcast, and he talked about how he got on his, uh, recording session of the court's game and look Adam military and studied him because he's been with him for a very long, long time.
00:05:30
Hey, Grant, Thanks for joining.
00:05:33
Um, So Pat McAfee went over and watched him as he made his kicks yesterday.
00:05:40
Every wound him and zoomed in and washed.
00:05:43
And he said it was quite obvious to him that he was having some pain in his left knee, which is his planting me.
00:05:52
And he explained that that having pain in that planting me will give serious accuracy issues because he can't dig in.
00:06:00
I'm good enough to make sure that, you know there's no sway in that foot now, where that pain and that knee is coming from, who knows, You know that Does he have arthritis? Is it is it an age thing like many people think? Or is it just an injury that that's lingered on for a training camp because it was reported that he was having me and growing problems through the off season.
00:06:26
If this is what it is, he needs to let somebody know so that we could stop making assumptions.
00:06:32
And the Colts can actually get somebody in there if you can.
00:06:36
If he feels he can't make a cake that can bring someone in temporary until he gets that sucker healed up.
00:06:41
Really good, because in training camp he was blasting 60 or bugles and making them no problem.
00:06:46
Accurate as heck, right? So I don't see in being 46 is having an issue with extra points, you know, because that's not really an age issue.
00:07:00
You know that that would affect this power.
00:07:02
Obviously, that's why he's not dropping 60 yard field goals anymore.
00:07:06
Uh, but come on, if it isn't any issue S s Pat explains at a military should come out to the media and state.
00:07:15
Hey, you know, I'm having some pain in my left.
00:07:17
Me not ableto plant that sucker.
00:07:20
Really good.
00:07:21
Dig in and I'm having problems, you know? Now if it's something that he feels that he can get over hell up and continue on, then absolutely get that taken care of.
00:07:34
It's going to take a very long time to do so.
00:07:37
Then he needs to let the team know so that Dollar could go out and grab the kicker.
00:07:41
Maybe cool Hedlund.
00:07:42
That was kicking during the preseason for the Colts, you know, because he seemed to be doing pretty good.
00:07:47
But if it's something that he feels that he could get over with and be good, especially for this Sunday against Atlanta, that's That's a big game, you know, we were gonna need him to be able to make at least 40 yard field goals accurately.
00:08:05
So we need somebody there.
00:08:07
And if he doesn't feel that, he's even 95% that he needs to let somebody know.
00:08:13
But if he feels as though he can get that sucker straightened out by that time, give him the chance.
00:08:20
Give him the chance. That's that's my opinion.
00:08:22
I don't know what your guys his opinion is on that, but that is definitely my opinion.
00:08:28
Um, but yeah, I mean the guy, the guys to go for a reason.
00:08:33
He has his technique down.
00:08:38
He's had 23 years, 23 plus years to get his technique down, and that technique is going to be messed up a little bit.
00:08:51
Don't you dare cattle sneaking up on another cat like he's getting ready to attack my bad guys.
00:08:57
But yeah, I mean, if if he's having an injury, then that's gonna mess with this technique.
00:09:03
And I think he thought he was trying last week after he made those mistakes.
00:09:09
He said, Hey, you know, I've seen some problems with my technique.
00:09:11
I'm gonna fix that.
00:09:13
But if he's having the pain in his knee, then that's that's not gonna help technique Waas.
00:09:19
He's not gonna be ableto firmly do his job and needs to be taken out of the duties until he's able to, because right now, I'm not gonna argue.
00:09:35
If he made those extra points in this field goals, we won.
00:09:39
You know the game and the charges wouldn't went overtime, even if he'd have made one extra point or one field goal.
00:09:47
What went to overtime cold to be to it over right now, Um, so let's see how that works out.
00:09:57
He all.
00:09:58
Pat also said that when he talked out of military.
00:10:00
That did not seem as though, uh, anything that was said to him made him think that Bennett Terry planned on retiring.
00:10:10
But he did feel as though he was letting the team down, so hopefully he could do something that will help the team do better on Sundays while he's recovering, like allowing them toe go get somebody else to be straight with him.
00:10:29
Everybody else, I'm sure, understands that.
00:10:33
So for you guys out there just saying, you know, he's told to old it needs to retire.
00:10:37
That could be the case.
00:10:39
You know, this me issue might be arthritis or the fact that you know you can't get over it because his age, you know, you get older, it takes a lot longer for something.
00:10:49
T heal up.
00:10:51
And if you're consistently using it, that you will take longer to heal up and may not heal up while you're using it.
00:10:59
So, yeah, he needs to be.
00:11:02
He needs to talk to a medical doctor, someone who understands how these kind of injuries and age does play a part in and just be straight with himself and then take that information and take it to the home office, now 88 60.
00:11:22
A wanted me to talk a little bit about Jacoby, and I can't do that.
00:11:28
Jacoby per set was, um, didn't look quite a sharp.
00:11:34
He get a few times this last game he played.
00:11:37
He showed a lot of touch, which made me very, very happy.
00:11:41
It's the first time I've seen him use touch on a football in a really long time, but he's still taking way too long to release that football Now.
00:11:50
I don't know if his release time is because he can't get through his progressions fast enough.
00:11:56
Or if maybe Frank writes, playcalling has something to do with it.
00:12:00
Maybe he's not making place to where he's calling plays for Jacoby that take longer to develop than what he did for luck.
00:12:07
Because, you know, Luck came off that injury and Jacoby percent of big quarterback and can take hits and things like that.
00:12:14
He thinks he could sit in that pocket a little bit longer.
00:12:17
I don't know.
00:12:18
All I know is Jacoby right now is on pace to be 2nd 40 times this season as opposed to love being fact eight on it really has not a lot to do with the offensive line because they're giving him 345 seconds, you know, and to ask for an offensive line to give you 45 seconds.
00:12:41
You can't ask for more than that.
00:12:43
You know, once you get past four seconds, that's on the quarterback.
00:12:47
The quarterback's gotta be able to do something he does.
00:12:49
He's the man's big and strong.
00:12:52
He broke a couple tackles, right, a one plane.
00:12:56
He broke two tackles for that would have been sacks and then scrambled out on 1/3 of seven, scrambled out, rushed without seven yards dough and took a massive beating right after seven yard line.
00:13:10
Got the first down, was given the first down, but Manny got hit and there was a bunch out guarantee.
00:13:16
There was a bunch of Colts fans out there that cringe when that happened.
00:13:19
They were like, No, please get up.
00:13:21
Please get up because, I mean, we had just got done seeing Pierre to see her get injured and he's out for a few weeks and he's our number one man. Corn.
00:13:32
So and now we gotta play Atlanta, whose an excellent passing team and they got Julio Jones.
00:13:40
I mean, come on.
00:13:41
Right now, we're gonna probably end up with a rookie second rounder, Rocky, seen on Julio Jones.
00:13:47
Now, granted, we'll probably have, uh, Billy cooker over the top, but that that's for a different part.
00:13:55
That's for a different show, different streams.
00:13:57
That will happen later on this week when I preview the game.
00:14:00
But after Kobe showed me that he can throw within touch, which is nice, it is the first time I've seen it, but he really needs to learn how to get through those progression.
00:14:11
Get rid of that ball a little bit faster to give that offensive line a little bit of a break, because after the 34 seconds, defensive players are going to get around.
00:14:22
And that's when you start seeing holding holes because they get around him.
00:14:26
That's when your quarterback gets hit.
00:14:27
That's when injuries can happen.
00:14:29
He needs to get through progressions faster, whether or not it's him getting through progressions where the play calls are taking too long to develop.
00:14:37
Frank Reich and him need to sit down and figure that out because I'm telling you right now, Grady jerk is not a guy to mess with.
00:14:43
The dude is a beast.
00:14:44
That defensive tackle.
00:14:45
We need to be able to get rid of that bowl.
00:14:49
All right, so this was me.
00:14:51
I was just want to talk about Adam Bennett.
00:14:53
Terry, Agree? Disagree.
00:14:56
I don't mind.
00:14:57
I love constructive criticisms.
00:14:59
Phil, Frito, put comments down.
00:15:01
Don't forget to follow me.
00:15:03
Not only on here on sportscaster, but anywhere up here that's been going across as I've been talking.
00:15:10
Don't forget to check out unwrapped sports players.
00:15:14
And until next time, I'm Lord Zone.
00:15:17
This is Cole slaw.
00:15:18
Have a good one.

Adam Vinatieri's issues, and where to go from here?

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Lawrence Owen @ColtsLawUSN

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00:00:06
All right.
00:00:08
So I guess now you understand what the plan Waas.
00:00:11
Absolutely.
00:00:12
At coleslaw.
00:00:13
We talk Indianapolis Colts football.
00:00:16
We're gonna stick to what we know.
00:00:18
Fundamentals of technique.
00:00:19
1% better every day.
00:00:49
Who going on? So I'm here to talk about this guy right here, Uh, had a military.
00:00:59
So as most of you know, he's missed quite a bit of kicks in the 1st 2 weeks.
00:01:08
What? Three extra points and two field goals in the last two weeks.
00:01:13
And many people will say that it's his fault that the Colts lost the game against the Chargers because of seven points that he left on the board.
00:01:23
Um, hello.
00:01:27
A 60 eh? Welcome to the stream.
00:01:31
Well, here's a little bit of information a lot of people also want to talk about.
00:01:36
You know how his age has a problem.
00:01:38
You know, he's 46 or something, you know, and should be kicking anyhow.
00:01:42
Shouldn't be playing.
00:01:44
I get I get Jacoby here in a little bit.
00:01:48
The first I want to talk about what? What I've got here on the announcement.
00:01:54
Adam Vinatieri's age, I don't think has anything to do with accuracy other than the fact that his age might possibly, um, moment his age has the only issue he has with accuracy is injuries.
00:02:14
Hey.
00:02:15
Might not be able to recoup from his injuries any better.
00:02:20
Any faster.
00:02:21
Might take longer to recoup or possibly coming down with something.
00:02:29
No, no, no.
00:02:30
I'll talk about him here in a little bit, if that's what you want.
00:02:37
Um, I wish I'd have to Kobe beside on there.
00:02:40
That be awesome, wouldn't it? No, no, No problem, man.
00:02:45
I understand.
00:02:46
So he could have, um, a disease, the disease being something that you know, you catch when you get older, you know, I mean, arthritis in the knees.
00:02:59
Bad thing.
00:03:00
And if he's got something on, that is absolutely something that would affect his his pain and accuracy.
00:03:08
However, age itself doesn't have anything do with accuracy.
00:03:11
Age has to do with power, leg strength, stuff like that, You understand? So now I get it that a lot of people think Well, you know, he needs to retire, but we don't know what's going on behind closed doors.
00:03:29
You know, Bennett Terry in the front office might be talking his coaches in him.
00:03:34
The trainers the doctor's things of that nature.
00:03:38
The only issue that I think he needs to do is come clean with himself, the team and they bring out what's going on with the media, to the fans so that we stop sitting here and, you know, just guessing, right? I mean, they said he told uh Who was Stephen Holder of the athletic after the game that he would, you know, be seeing him tomorrow, which is today, and everybody blew that up.
00:04:13
Just made an assumption that Bennett Terry was going to make an announcement.
00:04:16
He's going to retire, man, today's Monday.
00:04:19
Yes, it's there all day.
00:04:20
But if you have an injury, you're going into the complex to get, you know, rehab and stuff done to it.
00:04:29
Ice heat, whatever it is, you know, for medical trainers.
00:04:33
So, yes, he would be seeing them today, right? So, you know, Stephen Holder could have just took that a little bit out of context.
00:04:42
Uh, I don't think he's planning on retiring right now.
00:04:46
He has made a statement that two a couple people, though he's letting his team down. And he is.
00:04:54
He is. He's missing games.
00:04:56
He's the reason why they lost, but or a reason why they lost that first game.
00:05:01
There was multiple reasons why the Colts lost that first game, but just about three hours ago, Pat McAfee I just got done with his Pat McAfee show his podcast, and he talked about how he got on his, uh, recording session of the court's game and look Adam military and studied him because he's been with him for a very long, long time.
00:05:30
Hey, Grant, Thanks for joining.
00:05:33
Um, So Pat McAfee went over and watched him as he made his kicks yesterday.
00:05:40
Every wound him and zoomed in and washed.
00:05:43
And he said it was quite obvious to him that he was having some pain in his left knee, which is his planting me.
00:05:52
And he explained that that having pain in that planting me will give serious accuracy issues because he can't dig in.
00:06:00
I'm good enough to make sure that, you know there's no sway in that foot now, where that pain and that knee is coming from, who knows, You know that Does he have arthritis? Is it is it an age thing like many people think? Or is it just an injury that that's lingered on for a training camp because it was reported that he was having me and growing problems through the off season.
00:06:26
If this is what it is, he needs to let somebody know so that we could stop making assumptions.
00:06:32
And the Colts can actually get somebody in there if you can.
00:06:36
If he feels he can't make a cake that can bring someone in temporary until he gets that sucker healed up.
00:06:41
Really good, because in training camp he was blasting 60 or bugles and making them no problem.
00:06:46
Accurate as heck, right? So I don't see in being 46 is having an issue with extra points, you know, because that's not really an age issue.
00:07:00
You know that that would affect this power.
00:07:02
Obviously, that's why he's not dropping 60 yard field goals anymore.
00:07:06
Uh, but come on, if it isn't any issue S s Pat explains at a military should come out to the media and state.
00:07:15
Hey, you know, I'm having some pain in my left.
00:07:17
Me not ableto plant that sucker.
00:07:20
Really good.
00:07:21
Dig in and I'm having problems, you know? Now if it's something that he feels that he can get over hell up and continue on, then absolutely get that taken care of.
00:07:34
It's going to take a very long time to do so.
00:07:37
Then he needs to let the team know so that Dollar could go out and grab the kicker.
00:07:41
Maybe cool Hedlund.
00:07:42
That was kicking during the preseason for the Colts, you know, because he seemed to be doing pretty good.
00:07:47
But if it's something that he feels that he could get over with and be good, especially for this Sunday against Atlanta, that's That's a big game, you know, we were gonna need him to be able to make at least 40 yard field goals accurately.
00:08:05
So we need somebody there.
00:08:07
And if he doesn't feel that, he's even 95% that he needs to let somebody know.
00:08:13
But if he feels as though he can get that sucker straightened out by that time, give him the chance.
00:08:20
Give him the chance. That's that's my opinion.
00:08:22
I don't know what your guys his opinion is on that, but that is definitely my opinion.
00:08:28
Um, but yeah, I mean the guy, the guys to go for a reason.
00:08:33
He has his technique down.
00:08:38
He's had 23 years, 23 plus years to get his technique down, and that technique is going to be messed up a little bit.
00:08:51
Don't you dare cattle sneaking up on another cat like he's getting ready to attack my bad guys.
00:08:57
But yeah, I mean, if if he's having an injury, then that's gonna mess with this technique.
00:09:03
And I think he thought he was trying last week after he made those mistakes.
00:09:09
He said, Hey, you know, I've seen some problems with my technique.
00:09:11
I'm gonna fix that.
00:09:13
But if he's having the pain in his knee, then that's that's not gonna help technique Waas.
00:09:19
He's not gonna be ableto firmly do his job and needs to be taken out of the duties until he's able to, because right now, I'm not gonna argue.
00:09:35
If he made those extra points in this field goals, we won.
00:09:39
You know the game and the charges wouldn't went overtime, even if he'd have made one extra point or one field goal.
00:09:47
What went to overtime cold to be to it over right now, Um, so let's see how that works out.
00:09:57
He all.
00:09:58
Pat also said that when he talked out of military.
00:10:00
That did not seem as though, uh, anything that was said to him made him think that Bennett Terry planned on retiring.
00:10:10
But he did feel as though he was letting the team down, so hopefully he could do something that will help the team do better on Sundays while he's recovering, like allowing them toe go get somebody else to be straight with him.
00:10:29
Everybody else, I'm sure, understands that.
00:10:33
So for you guys out there just saying, you know, he's told to old it needs to retire.
00:10:37
That could be the case.
00:10:39
You know, this me issue might be arthritis or the fact that you know you can't get over it because his age, you know, you get older, it takes a lot longer for something.
00:10:49
T heal up.
00:10:51
And if you're consistently using it, that you will take longer to heal up and may not heal up while you're using it.
00:10:59
So, yeah, he needs to be.
00:11:02
He needs to talk to a medical doctor, someone who understands how these kind of injuries and age does play a part in and just be straight with himself and then take that information and take it to the home office, now 88 60.
00:11:22
A wanted me to talk a little bit about Jacoby, and I can't do that.
00:11:28
Jacoby per set was, um, didn't look quite a sharp.
00:11:34
He get a few times this last game he played.
00:11:37
He showed a lot of touch, which made me very, very happy.
00:11:41
It's the first time I've seen him use touch on a football in a really long time, but he's still taking way too long to release that football Now.
00:11:50
I don't know if his release time is because he can't get through his progressions fast enough.
00:11:56
Or if maybe Frank writes, playcalling has something to do with it.
00:12:00
Maybe he's not making place to where he's calling plays for Jacoby that take longer to develop than what he did for luck.
00:12:07
Because, you know, Luck came off that injury and Jacoby percent of big quarterback and can take hits and things like that.
00:12:14
He thinks he could sit in that pocket a little bit longer.
00:12:17
I don't know.
00:12:18
All I know is Jacoby right now is on pace to be 2nd 40 times this season as opposed to love being fact eight on it really has not a lot to do with the offensive line because they're giving him 345 seconds, you know, and to ask for an offensive line to give you 45 seconds.
00:12:41
You can't ask for more than that.
00:12:43
You know, once you get past four seconds, that's on the quarterback.
00:12:47
The quarterback's gotta be able to do something he does.
00:12:49
He's the man's big and strong.
00:12:52
He broke a couple tackles, right, a one plane.
00:12:56
He broke two tackles for that would have been sacks and then scrambled out on 1/3 of seven, scrambled out, rushed without seven yards dough and took a massive beating right after seven yard line.
00:13:10
Got the first down, was given the first down, but Manny got hit and there was a bunch out guarantee.
00:13:16
There was a bunch of Colts fans out there that cringe when that happened.
00:13:19
They were like, No, please get up.
00:13:21
Please get up because, I mean, we had just got done seeing Pierre to see her get injured and he's out for a few weeks and he's our number one man. Corn.
00:13:32
So and now we gotta play Atlanta, whose an excellent passing team and they got Julio Jones.
00:13:40
I mean, come on.
00:13:41
Right now, we're gonna probably end up with a rookie second rounder, Rocky, seen on Julio Jones.
00:13:47
Now, granted, we'll probably have, uh, Billy cooker over the top, but that that's for a different part.
00:13:55
That's for a different show, different streams.
00:13:57
That will happen later on this week when I preview the game.
00:14:00
But after Kobe showed me that he can throw within touch, which is nice, it is the first time I've seen it, but he really needs to learn how to get through those progression.
00:14:11
Get rid of that ball a little bit faster to give that offensive line a little bit of a break, because after the 34 seconds, defensive players are going to get around.
00:14:22
And that's when you start seeing holding holes because they get around him.
00:14:26
That's when your quarterback gets hit.
00:14:27
That's when injuries can happen.
00:14:29
He needs to get through progressions faster, whether or not it's him getting through progressions where the play calls are taking too long to develop.
00:14:37
Frank Reich and him need to sit down and figure that out because I'm telling you right now, Grady jerk is not a guy to mess with.
00:14:43
The dude is a beast.
00:14:44
That defensive tackle.
00:14:45
We need to be able to get rid of that bowl.
00:14:49
All right, so this was me.
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I was just want to talk about Adam Bennett.
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Terry, Agree? Disagree.
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I don't mind.
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I love constructive criticisms.
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Phil, Frito, put comments down.
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This is Cole slaw.
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