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watch your back bats in Cincinnati in the building.
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Sup with you? What's going on, man? U D C Flames says the backdrop is fired.
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The backdrop is just the truth.
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The backdrop is just the truth.
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That's all it is.
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That's how I perceive Canellos Championship collection, you bottom feeding and no catfish been eating. Look at those catfish.
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They look delish, But catfish, diapers, that's what I represented this trash because it is trash collection.
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You hurry to scoop up the belt of Benavidez.
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But you won't even talk about fighting. Benavidez.
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Benavidez, you got You have not only the experience advantage over over Benavidez.
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You have the skill advantage over Benavidez.
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But what you don't have is the physicality.
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And that's why I believe he won't fight him.
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What's up? Blood retro on the bill, says Michael Johnson, boxes talking more.
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You on that grill? Mike John says No.
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I made burgers in the kitchen.
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Now let me let me get this over to y'all so y'all could take a look at this.
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This is the This is the constant hypocrisy that we see in boxing.
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Ah, on a daily basis.
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Those of us that actually care about the sport.
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Those of us that aren't Fanboys, you know, we just want to see fair fights.
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Good fights.
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That's all we want to see.
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We want to see the best fight The best.
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Hello has gotten away with fighting people with great names, accomplishments and accolades.
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But usually they're past their point.
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Or they gotta fight him with conditions laid laid on top of off the fight.
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How is it fact? When is Canelo gonna fight a fair fight and even fight? Not ah, fight, uh, geared for his gear to his advantage.
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That's all I'm asking as a fair boxing fan.
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That's all I want.
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All I want.
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All I wants a little piece of corn bread, that's all I wont Little piece of corn bread.
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Hold on. Now hold on.
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Rachel says the doctors be on the grill to Yeah, I'll be on there.
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Michael Johnson says Retro.
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I'm making jerk salmon tomorrow.
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Oh, ****.
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That's kind of impressive, sir.
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It's kind of impressive.
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See what you What you talking about? Hold on a second.
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Let me get up on this thing, man. I'm sorry.
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God, I'm fumbling bumbling.
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But like I said, I can't do more.
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I can't multitask.
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Target Target man Target when it comes to that.
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Let's see here.
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All right, we got that there.
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I'm gonna pull this up, right? Yeah.
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I'm gonna show this to you All this is what I got.
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This is what got sent to me.
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This is what I sent to me today.
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And I knew about this three days ago, and I was actually going to do a live stream on it.
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So Right here, Right there.
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See that? Let me get my fingers. Right.
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You sit here.
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Okay.
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Well, I got arms, Matt.
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Room boxing tweets.
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The famous green and gold WBC boxing world title built is on the line.
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Canelo Smith.
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How did they pull that off? How did they pull that off? I'm gonna let that stew right there for a second the other day, even on box wreck yesterday? Because I sent this to somebody.
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I sent this information to somebody I sent the the original thumbnail to somebody.
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He told me that they only fight for the w b A.
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And I'm like, man my information telling me they also fight for the WBC.
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And so Match Room confirmed that today they confirmed it today at 21 PM They're fighting for the WBC.
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They just they They announced that today I knew about it three days ago.
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You know, people, you know, people call me a hater and I don't have any sources.
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I'm just letting you know I got sources and I would even trying to really put this out his news.
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I was just kind of complaining about the situation.
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And I hate to complain, man, I like I like to be positive, but that's what it is.
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The famous green and gold is suddenly on the line, but the person that holds the best that's held the built, the best nobody want to talk about.
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Now I can't excuse me, the vida's I can't excuse me the vida's for losing the title on the scale, you know, testing positive for cocaine.
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Before that, I can't I can't have.
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He has to be held accountable to, But Canelo does not want fade with guys he cannot physically overcome or he can't bribe to throw a fight.
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And people think that's hate.
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But look at the body of work.
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Look at the contracts of the body of work.
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Look at the turn around the timetable.
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Be objective.
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Don't be a Fanboy.
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Be objective.
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Believe me, if Canela was doing something right, I would be I would be I would be on top of it.
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I'm saying Canelo is doing right, but he's not doing right.
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Canelo has taken advantage of his position for so long in the in.
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The sanctioning body is so beholden to him because they don't have.
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They don't have another breadwinner in boxing.
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So that's why the WBC coddles him at every turn.
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So now the WBC has gifted him another belt because he's gonna beat Callum Smith.
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He's gonna beat Callum Smith.
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It's been written in the script.
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He's gonna beat cattle Smith cattle.
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Smith doesn't compare to Canelo Inability.
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I'm telling you, that's a Mexican versus Ah, UK guy.
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Yeah, that's kind is gonna be a better version of Rocky Field in in my opinion.
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And if anyone disagrees with me in the chat room, let me know.
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I'm going down the line now.
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Michael Johnson says, I want to see how you're gonna How are you gonna do on the grill? I'm not shot.
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A shot of learning, no techniques regular, says **** it, Jake.
00:06:28
Uh, yes, he could.
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He said, Dammit, MJ can cook it.
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No, no, I know he can.
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Michael Johnson says he's been doing 12 14 hour grilling Man, That's smoking, bro.
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That ain't grilling as a different sun.
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Smoking is slow cooking, and certain temperature grilling is cooking at a high temperature, quickly smoking and grilling two totally different sciences.
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Homie D.
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Lowe says.
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Great question in the title, but we know WBC.
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We beg Canelo the bevel, says Michael Johnson, Boxing talking more salute, Brother Dillo says.
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The infamous green and gold De Lo says the blue blood boxing Mon Sareen says Canela versus Jamel Butter via of plan or Benavidez would be nice.
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But, bro, do you see that honestly happening with his track record? This is This is what you can conclude with Canelo.
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Canelo does not fight the best people in his division.
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What he does is he can get a name, but that name is usually past the expiration point.
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They're past their best, or that name is taking a fight at a disadvantage.
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Or, like Kovalev Kovalev, in my opinion, through that fight, they were saying over levels, losing a fight When he was out jab, he was jabbing **** out of Canella with slap jabs, a jab that's knocked down people and knocked out.
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People suddenly can't hurt Canelo.
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I got moving up multiple weight classes, please, Michael, John says, WBC hustling on the streets.
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Yep, De Lo says they just got benefit as big F you Cannella already said, No more Mexican opponents.
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Yep, I recall that, uh, Zino says, Big up.
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Uh, What's up, man? Dello says Canelo doesn't have to be held accountable.
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The WBC adjusted the computer.
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All threshold limits for the Golden Goose.
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Canelo.
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Yep, they did.
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The bevel says.
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Canellos avoided the best competition at 54 60 and 68 75.
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Don't forget 75.
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He's avoided that competition to He jumped up and he thought, What's his name? Uh, Covalin? Kovalev was not the best.
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Come at 75 when they fought, he was asked last, to be honest with you, De Lo says the bevel The champ.
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Yes, he has a *****.
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He has eventually as well.
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At 75 when he went up there and started built to cheat history.
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Lance Meyer is laughing.
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Zino says.
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I will give him credit for being Cal Smith, the title holder, but I would really like to see him in a big next fight.
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I ain't going to trash him for.
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This fight is decent.
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This is the things you know.
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I'm not trying.
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I'm not trying to trash Callum Smith.
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I don't have a problem with Callum Smith.
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Callum Smith just doesn't have elite ability.
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He just doesn't have it.
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The problem is, Canelo is that is a career Canellos career is laden with advantages.
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I can allocate, helped Eddie Short, but you're moving up where the guys are bigger.
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Why do they have Thio? Why do they have to have weight clauses? Why do they have to have six week turnarounds Thio accommodate you? I don't care if you are supposedly the biggest name in the sport.
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That's a miss Number two Floyd Mayweather, still hanging around there like a booger.
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He he hasn't really relinquished that title, and I guess in February he about to show you he's still the biggest name in the business.
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So that's a miss number and massage.
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He hadn't been on pay per view, wasn't a year and a half, and when he when he, when he was going off paper, feel he wasn't doing well.
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So these are all miss numbers, essentially, what it is.
00:10:19
He has the home team advantage with the WBC being from Mexico, and they have catered Thio Canelo for the longest time.
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And if you're being fair, you can concede that point.
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Lonely Boxer says A crazy staff for me with Canela is he hasn't found anyone younger than him in seven years.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, son.
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Thank you.
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I've been saying it forever then all of the way in stipulations.
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And I like Canelo Frustrating.
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I read that one more time.
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Long live boxes.
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A crazy stat for me with Canelo is he hasn't found anyone younger than him in over seven years.
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Then all the way in stipulations.
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And I like Canelo frustrated.
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But it's the truth now, De Lo says.
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I'm sorry. The bevel says fax.
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Diello, Boxing a salute to your brother.
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Monastery says Sad, but true.
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Salute, line kill.
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Appreciate you, man, Zino says.
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Salute my bro.
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Retro boxing and do***entaries.
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Lance Myers says, I would call Smith a cherry picked up.
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I wouldn't call Smith the cherry pick, and that's how you feel who are, If that's how you feel, who are credible opponents, bro.
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There's a lot of credible opponents.
00:11:32
Hell, who's got to get to me? Might be better than Smith Kayla Plant.
00:11:37
The only reason Kato plan didn't take that fight.
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It was the turn around time.
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You try to cheat a man by giving him a short training camp.
00:11:47
I think it was a six week turnaround, so that's why he passed on the fight.
00:11:53
I can't remember why Charlo passed on the fight, but Ronnie Shields gay that reason when he, when he came on, came on the show so you could go back and go look at the running shields, uh, conversation we had with him live.
00:12:10
He'll tell you why they didn't take the Canelo fight just because you don't you don't take a fight because it's not because it's not conducive to you.
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That's not a dug the Everything's a negotiation.
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Everything's business.
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If you make a fight and you pull out the fight, that's a duck to me.
00:12:28
But they were in talks and something wasn't right.
00:12:35
De Lo says.
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Canelo strategically maneuvers around to cheat boxing history.
00:12:39
I agree with that, and that's what I've been stating.
00:12:42
The Bible says. Salute alone.
00:12:44
Live boxing G Funk says.
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I don't know why the franchise champion wants.
00:12:47
Uh, okay, cut off, Hold on.
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I'll get back to I guess G Funky retro says Xeno.
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Uh, Cry kitty.
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Salute.
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Uh, yellow says salute the bevel.
00:13:00
Larry Thorne says Canelo Falco over 10 weeks after he almost got knocked out by yard.
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I could be wrong, but I've never heard of that before in a championship.
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Exactly. Broke.
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Exactly.
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I don't remember being to what that was eight weeks.
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I thought that was an eight week turnaround.
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The dello says.
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Uh, Canelo is an opportunity, and it's indefensible.
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De Lo also says Luke Blood.
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Gino says, Yeah, right on.
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It's a decent fight, but I want him in a competitive fight next.
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Not to mention I would hate to see his talent go to waste.
00:13:32
When what, have you really seen him in a competitive fight? Listen, Triple G was a marketing ploy for HBO.
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Once Charlo and on Dry moved to the division instantaneous instantaneously.
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Triple G became number three in that division.
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Ability wise, I don't care what anybody says, but people have to live.
00:13:57
People live in narratives these days, so they got.
00:14:01
If they, if their guy is not what they are, is what they believe, that's what they're gonna believe.
00:14:06
And if he's really not what they believe they're gonna hold to, that they're going toe hold to that, the Bible says, avoided the Charles and Andre that 54.
00:14:15
That's a fact.
00:14:16
Then again, at 60 avoided planting Benavidez at 68 then avoided our pater via about 75. ****.
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Excuse me, De Lo says Canellos.
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Pay per view numbers were inflated.
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You won't prove.
00:14:29
Turn, turn, turn on.
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I'm sorry I'm stuttering today.
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Turn to HBO.
00:14:34
Fight night? Yep, G Funk says.
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I don't know why the franchise champion wanna fight for the regular belt. Exactly, bro.
00:14:40
But that's that G funky.
00:14:42
That's the crazy thing, bro.
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He's fighting for the regular belt because belts look good on paper.
00:14:50
Look, a look at how ESPN trying to create ah factoids saying that Triple G exceeded title defenses of Bernard Hopkins, which is a complete and utter lie and falsehood.
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They created a lying stat.
00:15:05
You don't count regular title defenses.
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There shouldn't even be a ****ing regular title.
00:15:13
That's ludicrous in itself.
00:15:15
That should only be one title per division in a perfect world, one title per division, but we're never going to get a perfect world.
00:15:24
So there should only be four built, one belt representing every sanction, the body for each division.
00:15:32
Not, you know, Can I talk? You know, Can I get a what? What built? Can I go to Six Flags? Have a good pass built? I mean, it's ridiculous.
00:15:45
De Lo says Kovalev had had a weight.
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Clause two and yard had no chance of land.
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Canela had to be Kovalev.
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He was too young an athlete. That's a fact.
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That dude is not going to fight people his age or younger, and it is show.
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And if you think I'm a hater, just go do your **** research.
00:16:05
It's ridiculous.
00:16:08
Do you know? Says Ain't no franchise champions.
00:16:10
They are franchise distinctions, Zino says.
00:16:13
On dry will get washed by canela.
00:16:15
My opinion on dry it is so fundamentally poor.
00:16:18
I think Charlo versus Canelo is a great fight.
00:16:20
I don't think he's going to get washed.
00:16:22
To be honest with you, I think honestly, Charlo is the more not Charlotte.
00:16:28
But Andrea is the more difficult matchup for Canelo.
00:16:32
Canela has to figure out how to land on the guy can l.
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A.
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Also has to figure out a 6 ft three frame, and he ain't gonna He's not gonna land the body shots with Andrea, but also at the same time.
00:16:46
I I could see to your point that we haven't we don't know what on dry it is from the outside looking in.
00:16:52
Android has seemingly has a talent, but we don't know until he's been pressed until he's far elevated competition.
00:17:00
So I half agree with you there.
00:17:03
Monsoon Rains says him and Jamal, born the same year and plant Benavidez both younger than him.
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He won't be able to age him out. Nope.
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Nope.
00:17:14
A O B's, he says.
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None of these guys that 60 68 will face each other, not just Canella.
00:17:19
Hey, you're not lying.
00:17:23
I don't think you're lying there.
00:17:25
Honestly, it's just with It's a lot of constipation in boxing.
00:17:29
Lot of stopped up people.
00:17:30
A lot of stopped up divisions.
00:17:32
G Funky says the franchise thing literally makes my hands, but yeah, it's bull****, bro.
00:17:37
They straight up bull**** and it's it's sad that that now we're creating.
00:17:43
Ah, now we're creating, you know, certain stuff.
00:17:49
Hold on one second, one second and I send somebody something still somebody.
00:18:09
Okay.
00:18:10
Are we doing this PBC official guy? Okay.
00:18:32
Sorry about that, guys.
00:18:35
Uh huh.
00:18:37
The trade says on dry.
00:18:39
The UN drive is a defensive beast.
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For sure, Johnny lost his un drive is for sure the more difficult got a box with from his style of fighting.
00:18:47
He is, uh, hello, says Andrade's like Laura Michael Johnson's.
00:18:52
I told folks Kovalev should not take that fight. Then the gas out.
00:18:56
I wonder why he he took the pay his gas out was a throw out.
00:19:02
Let's call it what it is.
00:19:03
He threw that fight, bro.
00:19:05
He threw the fight.
00:19:07
Tracy is a franchise.
00:19:08
I franchise women when I'm done with sick, sick G.
00:19:15
Funk says style wise on Dr is more difficult fight for Canelo than Charlotte Movement gives.
00:19:20
Charlotte gives Canelo problems.
00:19:21
That's a fact, and honestly, and this is how.
00:19:24
And you know I didn't don't like to do this, but un dry style of fighting is like Laura's, except there's a big gap in in extremities, height, reach speed.
00:19:41
I don't know about power.
00:19:43
I don't know.
00:19:44
I don't know about Andrea's power at 60 but power power can start.
00:19:49
Thio increase when you're getting tagged.
00:19:52
Canella would get tagged a lot with Andhra.
00:19:56
Canelo is too short to score against on Dried if he stays on the outside.
00:20:02
I don't think Canellos quick enough to hit Andhra.
00:20:06
I think it poses a lot of problems for Canelo.
00:20:11
Canelo will have.
00:20:12
He'd have to sacrifice himself a little bit.
00:20:17
Take a risk which he doesn't do against a guy like Andhra now against Charlie.
00:20:23
I think Charlie would just straight up beat his ass.
00:20:27
I would like him.
00:20:30
I would honestly like in a Charlo Canelo fight Mawr to a deer Ivanchenko fight that we saw with Charlo.
00:20:38
Canelo will fight with him.
00:20:39
He'll definitely fight with him till he can't fight with.
00:20:43
He'll have to do something different or to start complaining to the refs.
00:20:47
Because let's face it, I'm looking at Charlo and I've been looking at Charlotte for a while.
00:20:52
He's a big ass dude and he can move.
00:20:54
He's athletic.
00:20:55
He's not his fastest on Dr but he has thuds **** hurts.
00:21:02
And if you get in a firefight with this kid, most likely between the two of them, Charlie is gonna win that Charles gonna win that.
00:21:11
And at the end of it, somebody somebody's dropping.
00:21:15
In my opinion, if Canelo wants to trade Canelo, upper body movement is good.
00:21:21
It's not Tony esque.
00:21:22
It's not James Toney esque, but it's good.
00:21:25
But if you get Canelo backpedaling, if you get canela moving side to side with his feet, he's in trouble, especially gets an athletic fighter.
00:21:35
If you don't understand that, go in there.
00:21:38
Like I said, you don't understand that.
00:21:40
I can't explain it to months.
00:21:44
Theresa's Charlie willing to walk through the fire.
00:21:46
He got a strong champ, power and power and won't let Canelo take rounds off.
00:21:51
Charla is the more difficult fight than on dry to meet.
00:21:53
Well, I could see your point.
00:21:56
I could definitely see your point when it comes straight up to a straight up fight.
00:22:01
But for for for Canelo to be effective, he has to score or look like he's scoring.
00:22:08
The ability of on dry if Andres talent holds up to the level of a canelo is, is that he can stay on the outside all day scoring and keep Canelo at bay.
00:22:21
Canelo would have to go inside, and that's a risky proposition coming in when a guy's long is long, like Dimitris on dry for a fight with Charlo, you have a more traditional Canelo fight.
00:22:38
Except he can't hang with him, in my opinion.
00:22:44
And that's just how I see it.
00:22:45
Jose Jose Yepez in the building says Charlo is at 60 and Canellos at 68.
00:22:50
So it doesn't matter right now, bro.
00:22:52
They it matters because they were both at 60 and it didn't matter to him.
00:22:56
They were both at 50 for it.
00:22:58
It didn't matter to him, Okay, and Runny was on here a few weeks ago, said he's going up to 68 bro.
00:23:08
It's gonna It's not gonna be too long from now.
00:23:11
So what happens when Charlie gets a 68? It's still not gonna matter, bro.
00:23:15
Trust me on that.
00:23:18
It is just He's been selective and just like my boy Sean, alone with boxes just brought up.
00:23:28
Cano hasn't found anybody his age or younger in over seven years, something I've been telling people a long time he got it down to the years, Zino says.
00:23:39
Canelo is good at getting to the inside.
00:23:41
He will be able to faint his way in, slipped his way inside, not to mention under.
00:23:45
I leans forward with the jab Canelo will punish under its Really, Who knows? I don't think so.
00:23:52
I don't think so.
00:23:54
But again, this is the big difference.
00:23:57
You know, un Dried has not fought the level of competition that Canelo has, so you could be right.
00:24:05
But I was at the same time. I could be right.
00:24:07
We don't know what under I can do with an upper level opponent, so I don't disagree with you.
00:24:15
I just really don't disagree with you.
00:24:16
But there's just something that is something that I see.
00:24:21
The trend says, I definitely agree with you.
00:24:23
Canelo legs are his weakness.
00:24:24
Holy says UN dry style has given Canelo problems.
00:24:28
Yep, people that move like that give him problems and they beat him.
00:24:33
But he gets given.
00:24:34
He gets given the WBC benefit of the doubt.
00:24:38
Harold Jones says Canelo needs to give up those 60 belts if he's not going to defend.
00:24:42
I agree.
00:24:43
Neutral natural.
00:24:44
What's up, man.
00:24:45
Red Cliffs is how maney lineal chance had Demetrios on Dr Beat on his resume.
00:24:48
I don't give a **** about that.
00:24:50
How many? How many fights has has Dimitris on dry cherry pick? Bro, This isn't about paperwork.
00:24:57
This is about This is about quality of opposition.
00:25:01
Whether they're at their best or not, this is the whole point of the argument.
00:25:05
If you're coming here coming in here on a on A on a lineal champion, a resume, I mean, how many? How many weight classes has canelo been under undisputed at? I mean, we could go on and on and on.
00:25:16
And there's no disrespect to you, bro, but I'm looking at the abilities here.
00:25:22
I'm looking at the ability toe Thio fight on an even playing field.
00:25:27
It doesn't seem like Canelo can do that.
00:25:31
So it Zatz why there's so many people in these boxing streets that don't that don't really **** with Canelo.
00:25:40
I'm from Texas, man.
00:25:42
A lot of my boys are Mexican descent.
00:25:44
They don't **** with Canella.
00:25:48
They just don't They don't like the way he is.
00:25:50
If you ask a guy from Mexico, they don't like Carmelo.
00:25:55
They don't think he has heart.
00:25:59
They really don't go ask somebody. You know.
00:26:03
How do you feel about Canelo? Be riel.
00:26:10
Jose says if Charlie gets gets to Kayla, Plan belt.
00:26:13
Maybe Canelo would be forced to fight.
00:26:15
Man, that's the thing, Jose.
00:26:18
They can't force Canelo to do anything.
00:26:20
That's the whole problem.
00:26:22
Canelo will throw a ***** fit.
00:26:24
Great plane can plane and everything! He gets his way.
00:26:32
They When's the last time somebody forced Canelo to do something? Think about that.
00:26:38
When was the last time they forced him to do something? Diallo says un dried may be on the way up to 68 as well.
00:26:45
Yeah, they're all moving up there.
00:26:48
Big dudes, man.
00:26:49
They're big dudes.
00:26:50
It's hard to be 63 at 1 60 months of recent.
00:26:53
Do you think Canelo would be able to slip Jamal, Jab the whole fighting? Nope.
00:26:58
Not at all.
00:27:01
Not at all.
00:27:02
De Lo says you could see what? What Andrea it is and what he is.
00:27:06
Still what? He has killed two that skill wise, regardless of who is in front of them.
00:27:10
They said level opposition matters to stay sharp, etcetera.
00:27:13
Yeah, level you can have the ability.
00:27:16
But if you're not consistently fighting or graduating levels, it can be detrimental.
00:27:22
You can lose ability.
00:27:24
That's what I just want to see.
00:27:25
The graduation.
00:27:26
That's what I'm saying.
00:27:29
Holy says I think Cattle Smith is a good opponent.
00:27:33
I know. I heard you say that before.
00:27:35
G Funky says Laura exposed Canelo and hasn't fought someone with that style since.
00:27:40
Well, I guess Come.
00:27:41
Yeah.
00:27:42
Con neutral.
00:27:44
Yeah.
00:27:45
How much? How much did he outweigh? Con neutral National Says Why Print media not ridiculing Canelo fighting for vacant title But the same people ridiculing the bridge weight division Hypocrites you actually spell Hippocratic.
00:27:57
Is that the father of medicine? For the Greeks, Gregory shot Charlie versus plan is an interesting fight. It is.
00:28:07
It is reckless.
00:28:08
Says, uh, say what you want about canela.
00:28:10
Hate him or love him.
00:28:11
Who else is fighting his third legit world champion and world? See, this is what you should probably go back to the top of the lost ring. Red Cliff.
00:28:20
It's not about hate, man.
00:28:21
I don't care.
00:28:22
I don't hate him.
00:28:24
I just wish he would.
00:28:25
I wish he would fight to his ability.
00:28:27
I wish he would challenge himself.
00:28:30
This is all this.
00:28:31
This live stream is about and you can.
00:28:33
You can keep quoting accolades on third legit world Champion.
00:28:39
This that just because they're a champ doesn't make them legit.
00:28:44
Just because they're a champ doesn't make them good.
00:28:47
There's been a lot of world champions, but there's not as many Hall of Famers.
00:28:52
Even not Your barren stand said what I'm saying of Canelo right now.
00:28:57
He said that two years ago in an interview.
00:29:03
Now, if you like Canelo, you like Canelo.
00:29:06
If you're Fanboy Canel, your fan boy, I'm not saying that's you, but we're not talking about what's on paper.
00:29:13
We're talking about what the eyes know.
00:29:15
What people who box.
00:29:16
No, that's what we're talking about, Jose says.
00:29:20
Who knows? He was forced to fight triple G trout and Lauren when Laura called him out.
00:29:25
No, he wasn't.
00:29:27
Jose says.
00:29:28
Certain fans will be a Canelo credit.
00:29:29
If he fights Charla or Andre, I will give him credit.
00:29:33
I'm gonna give him credit because those air guys his age those air guys What? When did he? For the first time he fought triple triple Jews were 36 and Canela was 28 29.
00:29:44
Somewhere in there.
00:29:47
Now that's not their fault.
00:29:48
They're born at different times.
00:29:51
The second time.
00:29:52
Triple G is 37.
00:29:56
We just want to see Canelo literally has a T least 10 fighters hiss same age or slightly younger, that our prime fighters are our prime to fight him.
00:30:09
But he he's not seeking out any of them.
00:30:14
It's not just Charlo and Andrade's plant.
00:30:16
Yeah, you offer plant a fight on short notice.
00:30:23
Why why can't you have playing at his best? Why can't you have these guys at their best? Why do they have to be at a disadvantage? Riel Man won't challenges, Really.
00:30:34
Athletes won't challenges Real champions want challenges, not advantages, Jose says.
00:30:44
So until he fights Charlie, he will get his credit. And that's cool.
00:30:47
That's for you.
00:30:48
That's for you to decide.
00:30:49
That's in your opinion, the Bible says.
00:30:52
Chavez Sr said the same things about Canelo as well.
00:30:55
Yeah, so you got two great Mexican boxing legends saying the same thing is I'm saying the same things I've been saying, and that's just that's just the truth, Zino says.
00:31:13
Yes, he does, but he has lapses in concentration and can get reckless.
00:31:17
That's where Canelo can upset the apple cart and months.
00:31:20
Serene, neutral, Natural says.
00:31:21
For all the people talking about resume for Canelo need to stop talking boxing.
00:31:25
It's basic common sense that so you would have a better resume because he is the money fighting almost every division.
00:31:32
And honestly, those younger fighters are bigger fights.
00:31:36
They are potentially bigger money fights because you're fighting live bodies.
00:31:42
You're fighting live bodies that have accomplished something months and re says You're right, lion.
00:31:47
I'm from Fort Worth, Texas, and my Mexican, uh, partners don't like canela.
00:31:53
They support E.
00:31:54
J and Virgin.
00:31:55
Yep, yep, Zino says.
00:31:58
Yeah, Chavez Sr said Canela wasn't a real Mexican right? Doesn't matter what he said.
00:32:03
The point is that they're pointing out the same things that I'm talking about.
00:32:08
What I'm talking about is boxing.
00:32:10
Don't care about that other ****.
00:32:12
I'm talking about boxing.
00:32:14
We gotta keep it boxing.
00:32:16
I don't care about that personal ****.
00:32:17
I don't care about those personal statements that's irrelevant to me.
00:32:21
That's totally irrelevant.
00:32:23
We're talking about boxing and and what Canelo has to do to show me because I think he I think he's, I think he has.
00:32:33
He has greatness.
00:32:34
I really do believe he has greatness in him.
00:32:36
But prove it to me.
00:32:39
He's always playing the video game on Easy.
00:32:44
He might step up to medium sometimes, but he never plays hard.
00:32:50
When have you ever seen Canelo in a challenging fight? A riel challenging fight? I've seen him beat, and he got given.
00:32:59
He got given a gift, but I'm talking about a challenge.
00:33:04
I'm not talking about to make whether fight Laura Beatem Laura beat him.
00:33:11
Some people think Triple G beat him.
00:33:18
You'll notice.
00:33:19
I didn't say that.
00:33:21
Mr 21 strong in the House is going on, man. Oh, he says.
00:33:24
I don't think can.
00:33:25
L is a top five Mexican boxer of all time, but he's the best boxer right now.
00:33:28
In my opinion, Yeah, I disagree.
00:33:30
I totally disagree with that.
00:33:32
I think he's had the best.
00:33:33
He's been in the best position.
00:33:35
That's that's something I will concur.
00:33:37
He's been in the best position of maximize his boxing career.
00:33:41
The Bible, says Xeno.
00:33:42
That's not for me to debate.
00:33:43
I'm just speaking on resume.
00:33:45
Neutral, nutritious Canelo Canelo have welterweights that we're fighting for payday when he's gonna fight when he's gonna fight a prime fight that gives him a stylistic challenge.
00:33:55
So his resume is filled with names, but not too many problems.
00:33:58
Opposition? Exactly.
00:34:00
You have summarized what I'm saying in a nutshell.
00:34:04
With that statement, I'll read it one more time.
00:34:07
Canelo has welterweights that would fighting for payday.
00:34:12
When is he going to fight a prom fighter? That gives him a stylistic challenge? So his resume is filled with names, but not too many prime ops opponents.
00:34:24
Oh, this is large trout.
00:34:25
Triple G was challenging to me.
00:34:27
Not really Triple G. C.
00:34:30
This is where Laura wanted to fight.
00:34:33
I've got to revisit the trout fight, to be honest with you, because I don't remember it well.
00:34:38
The Lord, if I remember, is clear as day.
00:34:41
Laura one Triple G wasn't challenging.
00:34:44
This is the This is the reason why Triple G wasn't challenging.
00:34:48
They knew Triple G wasn't a risk to knock him out.
00:34:53
They knew that triple G his resume is inflated.
00:34:58
All the triple G nut hug Arendse, who says he's a knockout artist.
00:35:02
Yeah, it's easy to knock out people who are who are not challenging.
00:35:09
The first time Triple G gets a challenging fight is essentially Kell Brook.
00:35:15
He challenged him at least before rounds before he was able to hurt Kell. Brook.
00:35:19
Ah, welterweight! That moved up.
00:35:20
Two divisions to fight him on short notice.
00:35:27
Okay.
00:35:29
Ah, Welterweight gave him problems.
00:35:33
Then you see? Then you see him against Canelo.
00:35:40
I got has moved up again.
00:35:43
Who gave him problems? But he wasn't able to dispatch him or hurt him.
00:35:49
Triple G wasn't able to hurt Canelo.
00:35:52
He tried to box with him.
00:35:54
Where is this vaunted power? This ability to knock people out.
00:35:58
Hurt them? It evaporated into fights.
00:36:04
Come on, let's be riel.
00:36:06
Let's be fair.
00:36:08
Let's be honest.
00:36:09
Let's be unbiased, Believe me.
00:36:12
If Canellos whipping a person's ass, I'm gonna tell you, Canellos whipping a person's ass.
00:36:17
That's what I'm seeing.
00:36:21
Come on, We shed ****! The skin of the fan boy.
00:36:28
Shed it And I'm not.
00:36:29
I'm not going at you, Jose.
00:36:31
I'm just saying in general, bro, share that.
00:36:34
Come to the altar.
00:36:36
Let let's do like they do in those churches.
00:36:37
Come to the altar.
00:36:39
All right.
00:36:40
Come to the altar. brother.
00:36:41
It's all right.
00:36:42
To be honest, it's all right to be unbiased.
00:36:45
It's all right, t tell the truth.
00:36:49
Uh huh.
00:36:51
Let's keep it, riel.
00:36:54
Let's keep it, Riel.
00:36:56
Let's see here, Mr 21 star says.
00:37:00
Yes, Lara.
00:37:01
One dirty, Shaw says.
00:37:02
I wonder if Canela wins this vacant belt with the WBC franchise.
00:37:05
Him again when benefit as a Charlie, become his mandatory? Probably for Texas up.
00:37:10
Yeah, what's up for text? Neutral.
00:37:12
Natural, says Smith versus Billy Joe.
00:37:14
Son is both duct each other.
00:37:16
Hmm, Kenny, I'm sorry, Zino says.
00:37:19
I know I was just saying that.
00:37:21
I thought Chavez Sr said that the Devil champ, Eric R.
00:37:24
Says, All I do know is that triple G pressure had canela looking for oxygen tank.
00:37:29
That pressure might have had him looking for Oxygen tank, but he couldn't put him away.
00:37:34
So that tells you that tells you right there, Triple G wasn't the monster that he was, uh, that he was promoted to be, because if a God moves up from middle weight and I hope you all remember when Oscar Dela Hoya moved up to fight, Bernard Hopkins got knocked the **** out with a body shot a liver shot, and he wasn't doing.
00:37:55
He was doing okay until he wasn't.
00:37:59
That was the difference between a middleweight in a welterweight.
00:38:04
Triple G.
00:38:05
Supposed to be.
00:38:06
Some people think this dude is it would give Would beat Marvin Hagler.
00:38:12
But he couldn't.
00:38:13
He couldn't hurt Canelo.
00:38:15
Alvarez! Come on, man.
00:38:19
Come on.
00:38:20
Let's be riel.
00:38:21
Let's be honest.
00:38:23
Oh, this is I can't I can't name another 60 or 68 fighter with a better rest.
00:38:27
See, y'all go back to that resume.
00:38:29
****, That's what That's where you're missing me.
00:38:33
Yeah. You all look on paper.
00:38:35
Oh, he found this guy and that guy and this guy.
00:38:37
But you're not looking at the conditions of the fight.
00:38:41
The age of the fighter.
00:38:42
You're missing me with that ****.
00:38:44
That resume argument.
00:38:45
Don't play online.
00:38:46
Killer podcast.
00:38:47
Not in this.
00:38:48
Not on this subject.
00:38:50
Not on this subject.
00:38:51
Not with everything that I've laid out.
00:38:54
Photo says I feel bad from Mexico.
00:38:55
Canellos a disappointment.
00:38:57
The bell says Zeno.
00:38:59
Oh, okay.
00:39:00
I understand who he says He wanted loss against Laura, but it was a challenge, bro.
00:39:04
How many challenges has he really taken? Not meaning General Pence's Larabee. Canelo.
00:39:10
That's true.
00:39:11
Shot outline.
00:39:12
What's a general? Mr 21 Stars? Says Canelo is the king of caveat.
00:39:15
I agree.
00:39:17
Photo text says Canelo got schooled by a mere conference six rounds till he connected.
00:39:21
And listen.
00:39:22
You can **** on Amir Khan's chin.
00:39:24
He's gonna get knocked out.
00:39:27
I'm serious.
00:39:28
You could throw.
00:39:29
You could throw about a piece of paper on on Amir Khan.
00:39:31
He's gonna go unconscious.
00:39:35
Reckless is Laura was closed, but Laura was back.
00:39:37
Dude backpedaling, bro.
00:39:40
I can't even I can't even finish your comment, bro, have you ever heard of boxing on the back foot? Back foot? Boxing is what Mohammed Ali did.
00:39:53
Come on, bro.
00:39:54
It's hard for me that it's hard for me to finish your finish.
00:39:56
Your statement here? Backpedaling.
00:39:58
He was backpedaling, tapping his ass.
00:40:01
Come on, homey.
00:40:03
We gotta be riel.
00:40:04
We gotta be honest, Red Cliff, I challenge you brother to go watch that fight again.
00:40:10
Go watch the fight again.
00:40:12
Please.
00:40:14
Please reassess Mr 1 21.
00:40:17
Stone says I Maconel is the king of caveats.
00:40:19
Oh, this is well, I think Carol Smith is a challenge, so we will see next week.
00:40:23
Okay, fair enough.
00:40:26
Uh, that G 23 says Come to the altar.
00:40:30
The bevel says, When I was when I was a superb Floyd Fanboy back in the day, I call Hagler Duran Leonard haters for criticizing Floyd.
00:40:39
Laugh out loud now, seeing the same thing when c****s criticize.
00:40:43
Oh, this is Nobody has really hurt.
00:40:45
Yeah, you know why nobody's really hurt Canelo? Because he's made sure of that.
00:40:50
He's made sure that he doesn't get in the ring with people that can really hurt him.
00:40:55
Look how Danny Jacobs has fought people in the past. And look how he fought.
00:40:58
Canelo! Look how Kovalev has fought people in the past.
00:41:00
And look how he fought Canelo! Smaller guy.
00:41:06
Come on, guys.
00:41:07
I stopped buying.
00:41:08
Stopped behind the juice.
00:41:11
Gina says, Yeah, Triple G was seriously overhyped, calling him the most avoided fighting while time shaking my head.
00:41:16
They must not know about old Sam Langford or Mr Rear Breaker Joe Walcott.
00:41:20
Nope.
00:41:21
You know, I just saw Jersey Joe, not I was looking at the Joe Louis Jersey Joe Walcott Walcott fight.
00:41:28
Watch how Jersey Joe was back.
00:41:30
Was was actually backpedaling, biting on the back foot shifting his motion knocked down Joe dropped Joe like a ton of bricks off that back foot man.
00:41:45
Anybody? Red Cliff? That that that statement bothering me, bro backpedaling.
00:41:52
Backpedaling is a part of the sport, homie.
00:41:55
If you backpedaling and not doing anything, that's one thing.
00:41:58
But when you backpedaling, throwing fire, you connected and scoring, that's back foot boxing, Zino says.
00:42:06
You throw a pebble towards Congestion and he he will have a seizure.
00:42:09
Frank says.
00:42:10
Laura have Canelo hitting? Had Canelo hitting air.
00:42:13
That's a fact, Regular says Lord didn't land Clinton.
00:42:16
Come on, come on, please go watch that fight again.
00:42:20
Oh, they says.
00:42:21
We could say that about most of the days boxes in my screen.
00:42:23
Now we generalize it.
00:42:24
No, we can't.
00:42:25
We can't say that, bro.
00:42:27
France says Laura had Canelo hitting air.
00:42:29
Eric R.
00:42:30
Says Laura was given Canelo a boxing lesson.
00:42:32
Rewatch it, bro Ernest by Ernest Justices watching with no commentary.
00:42:37
Indeed, below, says Canelo just knew he had he had lost the Laura fight, just watched the last rounds in the decision being read.
00:42:45
Yeah, please go watch that fight.
00:42:49
Watch it without my voice watching without anybody's voice.
00:42:53
Just watch the fight.
00:42:56
Dealers has had Mr 21 star.
00:42:58
Mr 21 star says If these Canelo fans want to see them exposed, wait until he faced the best middleweight.
00:43:03
Charlo, wait until you face the best of any of those divisions.
00:43:08
Not just Charlo.
00:43:09
Hurry, Shaw says.
00:43:10
Excuse me.
00:43:13
Excuse me.
00:43:14
Uh, Canelo Canelo literally landed in the single digits to the head against Laura.
00:43:19
Over 12 rounds.
00:43:21
Yep.
00:43:22
Photo text says hopefully took a dive for Canelo.
00:43:26
I agree.
00:43:27
Neutral says Errol Spence fight Mexican style.
00:43:30
Not Canelo.
00:43:31
Uh, yeah, he does fight.
00:43:33
He does fight closer to that deal.
00:43:34
Oh, says Barbados. Joe Walcott.
00:43:36
Was that dude? Yep.
00:43:37
Red Cliffs says triple G B Canel in the first fight.
00:43:40
And if Jacobs would have pressed the action, he would have won.
00:43:43
But the question is, Red Cliff, Why didn't he pressed the action? Because Canelo wasn't doing anything.
00:43:50
He was doing anything special.
00:43:52
So why did Jacobs not fight his fight? Why did he fight? Not to look bad.
00:43:59
But why didn't he fight? Toe win? He fought.
00:44:01
He fought not to look bad, But he didn't fight to win the fight.
00:44:05
Why why Frank says Willie Peppers alleged for his defense.
00:44:11
But to today's boxing fans, defense is running.
00:44:14
No, Willie didn't run.
00:44:16
I've seen rounds where Willie was up in your face and you still couldn't hit him.
00:44:21
You know, people you gotta understand boxing is various styles, man.
00:44:28
You know you have.
00:44:29
You have to figure out how to be a style, Zino says.
00:44:35
I was talking about the original 51 Okay, Gotcha.
00:44:37
Welterweight champion Barbados Joe Walcott, who was avoided by Jim Jefferies.
00:44:41
Gentleman Jim Corbett cuts.
00:44:43
He says Canelo could only land body shots against law.
00:44:47
Yep, it really went landing well there.
00:44:51
Eric R.
00:44:52
Says. You can't compare Canellos career to Floyd.
00:44:54
90% of the names Canelo fight with shells are shot.
00:44:57
De Lo says.
00:44:58
Kovalev basically admitted he showed up vs Canelo.
00:45:02
It said only a fool would bet on.
00:45:04
Yep. Tax taxes, man.
00:45:06
No man.
00:45:07
Can L. A. Be triple G M. Both fights neutral.
00:45:09
Die Natural, says Jacobs, has no identity in the ring.
00:45:12
None none.
00:45:13
That's why I I don't I don't mess with Danny Jacobs.
00:45:16
I'm done with Danny Jacobs, Danny Jacobs.
00:45:19
After that Canela fight.
00:45:20
Never again, sir.
00:45:22
Never again.
00:45:24
Never again, General Penny says.
00:45:28
Kovalev took a dive and was still popping Canelo a head back with his jab.
00:45:33
And we know Kovalev got one of most vicious jabs in the game.
00:45:36
Canelo shots in that fight were unaffected.
00:45:39
Kovalev Not at all.
00:45:41
And to be honest with you, Kovalev was really slapping him with that jab. He wasn't.
00:45:45
He wasn't sticking him with that jab.
00:45:47
Like I know he can.
00:45:49
Holy says Canela won't get credit for Callum.
00:45:52
If he wins, I could tell, bro.
00:45:53
See, that's the problem.
00:45:54
You think You think because you're in here and we're discussing something? That's a valid point that we also Fanboys.
00:46:02
****. We're not Fanboys in here, Jose.
00:46:05
I'm just telling you what I see.
00:46:08
If I know, he's gonna be Calvin Smith by a show.
00:46:13
A show of comments.
00:46:14
How many people here think Callum Smith is gonna be Canelo Alvarez? Yes or no? I'll wait.
00:46:22
How many people here think Al Smith has a remote chance to be the Canelo Alvarez? Yes or no? Uh huh.
00:46:33
Neutral dynamics is after Louise areas fight for me.
00:46:38
General Peter says true dello says.
00:46:40
Then Jacobs had the nerve to part ways with his trainer because he didn't want to pay the man once he reached that big payday.
00:46:47
Yep, G Funk says.
00:46:48
Canel in a lot of shots on the elbows, back and elbow and below the belt, which aren't scoring punches.
00:46:54
Thank you, D funky.
00:46:56
And guys, if you all think there's some kind of agenda here G Funky is a Hispanic brother.
00:47:01
Okay, if you all don't know, we We were the boxing community way.
00:47:07
The real boxing community we were about were about box there.
00:47:12
There are no divides in our community.
00:47:16
None just keeping it real. Keeping it fair.
00:47:23
Tax taxes.
00:47:24
Jacobs Be triple G.
00:47:27
That's arguable.
00:47:28
I mean, I felt he did for Texas.
00:47:30
Note.
00:47:31
Gregory Shaw says, Callin Lost Thio.
00:47:32
General Rider.
00:47:33
He was like he was like, Not shot or no shot.
00:47:38
Okay, I'm not know a storm, y'all, Frank says.
00:47:41
Canelo is already ahead of the scorecards for the next three fights.
00:47:44
Yep, because he says, Callan lost his last fight against John Ryder.
00:47:47
His style is perfect for Canelo.
00:47:49
He's Rocky fielding just a little better.
00:47:51
He's just better.
00:47:52
That's all it is.
00:47:53
Body shot to the end of them at the end of the night.
00:47:56
That's what I keep saying.
00:47:57
He's rocky fielding with mus**** on it.
00:48:01
Neutral says no.
00:48:02
Silas says no photos.
00:48:04
Has Canelo wins versus Smith off streets has no English fighters being canel. Thank you, sir.
00:48:10
Oh, this is I think Callum is a challenge.
00:48:11
Hey, you may believe that.
00:48:13
I'm just saying I don't see it.
00:48:17
Hey, Jose, you can you can you could justify you could justify it in your mind, man.
00:48:23
The rest of the chat doesn't agree Just being real with you.
00:48:27
But I love the fact you in here because you you've been coming.
00:48:30
You've been listening for a while, man.
00:48:32
So you know, we're not always gonna agree.
00:48:34
But I appreciate your opinion.
00:48:36
Neutral says Caroline Smith ain't beat nobody but older Injured George Crows Eric R says they canelo except to call out Y'all know if it's going if it's gonna happen.
00:48:46
Uh, hello, says the winner of Smithers.
00:48:48
Canelo gets full credit for me.
00:48:50
That doesn't change the fact that Canela moves like he does to take the path of least resistance to prop up his accolades.
00:48:56
And I'm not taking credit for Canelo winning his fight against Smith.
00:48:59
He's gonna win the fight.
00:49:01
It's not.
00:49:02
It's not me taking credit.
00:49:03
We know it's a It's a very predictable outcome.
00:49:07
If you wanna know how predictable the outcome is, watch the watch the betting odds.
00:49:12
Watch the betting odds when it's all said and done, Jose says Callum is a challenge for Charla or on dry ****.
00:49:21
Guarantee you is not.
00:49:22
I guarantee you that that he's not any sports.
00:49:26
Once his line killer, Please help me understand.
00:49:27
Do champions fight for vacant belts? I thought Champions are supposed to take other champions belts out their waste.
00:49:33
Maybe. Exactly, bro.
00:49:35
That's exactly what champions they're supposed to do.
00:49:38
Champions don't fight for vacant belts.
00:49:40
That's why there's catfish at the bottom of my lake on this thumbnail.
00:49:46
That's why there's cap fish, eating diapers and WBC vacant titles.
00:49:52
This is the whole point.
00:49:53
We've got to change the mentality of the sport, de Lo says.
00:49:56
As soon as the writer fight was over, Canelo started locking, locking, licking his chops.
00:50:02
Harold Jones says Supreme Court just shot Trump down.
00:50:05
Of course they did.
00:50:06
What's up? Harold Zino says Yes, he was like light heavyweights running out of the ring against him.
00:50:12
It was a regular thing, sadly, through a lot of fights, because he would have got killed.
00:50:16
Otherwise I'm missing who you're talking about.
00:50:19
Um, Eric R says laugh.
00:50:21
You gotta Ko Canelo to get a draw.
00:50:25
Hey, I don't know what it takes to get a win against Canelo.
00:50:29
In that case Dealer says Smith could have beat Canelo, and I'm gonna I'm still gonna say Canelo thought he was sweet as a possibility, De Lo is highly unlikely.
00:50:40
We just No way.
00:50:42
Just know the model.
00:50:43
We just know the modus operandi of Canellos model.
00:50:48
But it Smith is a professional fighter.
00:50:51
At any given day, he could be Canelo.
00:50:55
I won't take that away from Smith.
00:50:57
And I don't have a problem with Smith, But we know why.
00:51:01
Smith.
00:51:02
Excuse me.
00:51:04
We know what we know.
00:51:05
Why Smith got this fight.
00:51:07
We know why he got this fight.
00:51:11
Frank says Cannella had a very close and see when I'm gonna go back with Smith.
00:51:17
Got this fighting for the W B A title.
00:51:19
Now, suddenly it's for the WBC vacant 68 one week before the fight.
00:51:28
Suddenly the WBC them through, they had in with a fresh, vacant title.
00:51:35
Come on, man, France says Canela had a very close fight against trial.
00:51:41
Of course, he's going to stay away from Andhra to Charlo to athletic man.
00:51:46
Cousin says.
00:51:47
Do you think Canelo not being signed to a major network will work against it with judges and future bouts? Nope, Not at all, because he has a sanctioning body behind him.
00:51:55
Foe takes his man Canela got my hopes up for no reason.
00:51:57
He could've fought plant.
00:51:59
Yep, De Lo says.
00:52:01
When I met your credit, I was responding to ever said They see, See Canela won't get no credit.
00:52:05
He's going to get credit people.
00:52:07
That's all they do is give him credit, Gino says.
00:52:09
Look at look.
00:52:10
It's a decent fight, but C**** is gonna win.
00:52:14
I don't think I don't know if it's a decent fight.
00:52:16
We know I do agree he's gonna win.
00:52:19
I don't know if it's a decent fight, though.
00:52:21
I just don't see it, bro.
00:52:24
I'm thinking about cattle Smith speed his his footwork, his ability e don't see.
00:52:30
I don't know if it's gonna be a decent fight, man.
00:52:32
Hey says look, at least he's fighting a champion, unlike these other pretend champions fighting so called tune ups.
00:52:38
See? But that's the That's the thing.
00:52:42
You kind of did a double there.
00:52:45
People can proceed Cattle Smith the same way.
00:52:47
I'm not saying that, but people can perceive it that way.
00:52:50
Bobby Swags is lying Killer.
00:52:52
What's up? What's up, Bobby? Swag. Jose.
00:52:54
Yep, it says, I also think BJ s versus Andrea is a challenge.
00:52:58
Just like playing versus Charlo.
00:53:00
De Lo says. Yep.
00:53:01
WBC.
00:53:02
Let Loma fight for the vacant WBC belt at 35.
00:53:04
Like sucker like suckers.
00:53:06
W B A.
00:53:07
Did say, did the same thing for a J versus flag? Yep, they picking certain guys.
00:53:12
Zinos laughing.
00:53:13
Jose says C**** is not a champion at 68 but he will be next week.
00:53:19
He will be next week.
00:53:21
That's what I'm saying, dog.
00:53:23
He will be next week.
00:53:25
Next week he will be champion at 68.
00:53:32
Frank says r i p The tiny a k deVeau Zeus uh, tiny lister.
00:53:38
Tax taxes.
00:53:39
If Canelo B Smith, he he go get the he gonna get the ring.
00:53:42
So that's the W B.
00:53:43
A super title WBC title in the ring magazine built that goes that goes set up at Benavidez fight.
00:53:50
Mark my words.
00:53:51
Doubted? Doubted he He ain't trying to fight that dude, the bell says.
00:53:56
Canelo said the reason he's not fighting Andres because he's boring that Zatz the worst type of excuse I've heard Harold Jones calendars domestic level Like most UK fighters, Reckless says could be propaganda Bs.
00:54:08
A tricky, but reports came out in January that Canelo offered Charlo fight.
00:54:12
Charla declined, according to Boxing Boxing 24.
00:54:15
I told you, Well, you weren't I don't think you were here at the beginning. Reckless.
00:54:19
But I mentioned that we had running Shields on the podcast, I wanna say, three weeks ago, and he gave the reason why they turned that down.
00:54:31
In most cases, it's a short turnaround, bro.
00:54:34
It's not proper there.
00:54:36
They have when you hear their camps.
00:54:38
The reason sound valid.
00:54:40
Yeah, they can.
00:54:41
They can make those offers, but they're not expecting those fighters to take those offers.
00:54:46
Yeah, the data and what happens is when the fighter does take that offer, what are they going to do then? But you could go back to me and Neitz conversation with running shields Running was was on the program for two hours.
00:55:03
So you have.
00:55:04
You have to sit through it.
00:55:05
But he gave the reason why they didn't take their fight because I asked him.
00:55:07
I asked him about that fight.
00:55:09
And several people. The chat.
00:55:10
Ask him about that fight.
00:55:11
I don't need the article.
00:55:12
I talked to Bernie Shields.
00:55:14
Mr 21.
00:55:15
Charlotte says I see this as a ZZ fight for Canelo.
00:55:17
Jose says, yeah, Children was the opponent for the WBC.
00:55:20
Y'all rather CEO Diversity Canelo that matter.
00:55:25
You're missing the point, Jose.
00:55:27
All I want to see all I want to see is Canelo.
00:55:30
Fight the best.
00:55:32
Not the fillers, not the filler champions.
00:55:38
I want to see him fight the best.
00:55:39
I want to see the best come out of Canelo.
00:55:42
And I think that you're missing the whole point.
00:55:44
Trying to argue for Canella.
00:55:47
You're arguing for Canelo instead of seeing what Ah lot of people see.
00:55:53
Any sportsman says no line killer! You're wrong.
00:55:55
Canelo will be unified.
00:55:56
Champion! Uh, what was that wrong about? Frank says if he if he was to be Canel, this would be a huge.
00:56:03
It would be be colossal.
00:56:06
It would be a colossal upset.
00:56:08
Mr 21.
00:56:09
Strong says that Smith gets past the 66th round.
00:56:12
It would surprise me.
00:56:13
Yeah, it was surprised.
00:56:15
Me, too.
00:56:16
Okay, let me go back here real quick before I go, Uh, which I know something real quick.
00:56:27
Okay, Y'all need to g o.
00:56:28
I'd probably be there about an hour and a half from now, but you'll need to go to boxing Playhouse night on YouTube and go check out me.
00:56:37
And they were gonna be on boxing playhouse tonight.
00:56:39
We're gonna be on the panel chopping it up with them.
00:56:42
So check out Boxing Playhouse tonight at seven o'clock, but I'll probably be a little bit later.
00:56:48
They will be there at seven o'clock Central.
00:56:50
So go ahead and check out box.
00:56:52
So that Z 50 minutes from now 50 minutes from now, he'll be live, and I'll be coming in a little bit later.
00:56:59
Guys, I got to go ahead and go.
00:57:00
But I read these last comments.
00:57:02
Any sportsman says I meant not a champion, but unified champion.
00:57:05
I got you.
00:57:06
Uh, the bevel says to be honest, nobody.
00:57:09
And I mean, nobody's ever heard of Rocky Fielding before the Canelo fight.
00:57:13
Hell, his job hadn't even heard of him before.
00:57:15
Broke? All right, you know we out, man, this is the Lion Killer Podcast.
00:57:21
Come check us out on Boxing Playhouse at seven o'clock.
00:57:25
NATO be their first.
00:57:26
I've come in a little bit later.
00:57:27
I'm gonna let you guys later.
00:57:29
Peace.
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watch your back bats in Cincinnati in the building.
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Sup with you? What's going on, man? U D C Flames says the backdrop is fired.
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The backdrop is just the truth.
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The backdrop is just the truth.
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That's all it is.
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That's how I perceive Canellos Championship collection, you bottom feeding and no catfish been eating. Look at those catfish.
00:00:21
They look delish, But catfish, diapers, that's what I represented this trash because it is trash collection.
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You hurry to scoop up the belt of Benavidez.
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But you won't even talk about fighting. Benavidez.
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Benavidez, you got You have not only the experience advantage over over Benavidez.
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You have the skill advantage over Benavidez.
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But what you don't have is the physicality.
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And that's why I believe he won't fight him.
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What's up? Blood retro on the bill, says Michael Johnson, boxes talking more.
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You on that grill? Mike John says No.
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I made burgers in the kitchen.
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Now let me let me get this over to y'all so y'all could take a look at this.
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This is the This is the constant hypocrisy that we see in boxing.
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Ah, on a daily basis.
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Those of us that actually care about the sport.
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Those of us that aren't Fanboys, you know, we just want to see fair fights.
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Good fights.
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That's all we want to see.
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We want to see the best fight The best.
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Hello has gotten away with fighting people with great names, accomplishments and accolades.
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But usually they're past their point.
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Or they gotta fight him with conditions laid laid on top of off the fight.
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How is it fact? When is Canelo gonna fight a fair fight and even fight? Not ah, fight, uh, geared for his gear to his advantage.
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That's all I'm asking as a fair boxing fan.
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That's all I want.
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All I want.
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All I wants a little piece of corn bread, that's all I wont Little piece of corn bread.
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Hold on. Now hold on.
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Rachel says the doctors be on the grill to Yeah, I'll be on there.
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Michael Johnson says Retro.
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I'm making jerk salmon tomorrow.
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Oh, ****.
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That's kind of impressive, sir.
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It's kind of impressive.
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See what you What you talking about? Hold on a second.
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Let me get up on this thing, man. I'm sorry.
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God, I'm fumbling bumbling.
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But like I said, I can't do more.
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I can't multitask.
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Target Target man Target when it comes to that.
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Let's see here.
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All right, we got that there.
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I'm gonna pull this up, right? Yeah.
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I'm gonna show this to you All this is what I got.
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This is what got sent to me.
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This is what I sent to me today.
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And I knew about this three days ago, and I was actually going to do a live stream on it.
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So Right here, Right there.
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See that? Let me get my fingers. Right.
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You sit here.
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Okay.
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Well, I got arms, Matt.
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Room boxing tweets.
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The famous green and gold WBC boxing world title built is on the line.
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Canelo Smith.
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How did they pull that off? How did they pull that off? I'm gonna let that stew right there for a second the other day, even on box wreck yesterday? Because I sent this to somebody.
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I sent this information to somebody I sent the the original thumbnail to somebody.
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He told me that they only fight for the w b A.
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And I'm like, man my information telling me they also fight for the WBC.
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And so Match Room confirmed that today they confirmed it today at 21 PM They're fighting for the WBC.
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They just they They announced that today I knew about it three days ago.
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You know, people, you know, people call me a hater and I don't have any sources.
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I'm just letting you know I got sources and I would even trying to really put this out his news.
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I was just kind of complaining about the situation.
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And I hate to complain, man, I like I like to be positive, but that's what it is.
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The famous green and gold is suddenly on the line, but the person that holds the best that's held the built, the best nobody want to talk about.
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Now I can't excuse me, the vida's I can't excuse me the vida's for losing the title on the scale, you know, testing positive for cocaine.
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Before that, I can't I can't have.
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He has to be held accountable to, But Canelo does not want fade with guys he cannot physically overcome or he can't bribe to throw a fight.
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And people think that's hate.
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But look at the body of work.
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Look at the contracts of the body of work.
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Look at the turn around the timetable.
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Be objective.
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Don't be a Fanboy.
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Be objective.
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Believe me, if Canela was doing something right, I would be I would be I would be on top of it.
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I'm saying Canelo is doing right, but he's not doing right.
00:05:31
Canelo has taken advantage of his position for so long in the in.
00:05:35
The sanctioning body is so beholden to him because they don't have.
00:05:39
They don't have another breadwinner in boxing.
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So that's why the WBC coddles him at every turn.
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So now the WBC has gifted him another belt because he's gonna beat Callum Smith.
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He's gonna beat Callum Smith.
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It's been written in the script.
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He's gonna beat cattle Smith cattle.
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Smith doesn't compare to Canelo Inability.
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I'm telling you, that's a Mexican versus Ah, UK guy.
00:06:07
Yeah, that's kind is gonna be a better version of Rocky Field in in my opinion.
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And if anyone disagrees with me in the chat room, let me know.
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I'm going down the line now.
00:06:20
Michael Johnson says, I want to see how you're gonna How are you gonna do on the grill? I'm not shot.
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A shot of learning, no techniques regular, says **** it, Jake.
00:06:28
Uh, yes, he could.
00:06:32
He said, Dammit, MJ can cook it.
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No, no, I know he can.
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Michael Johnson says he's been doing 12 14 hour grilling Man, That's smoking, bro.
00:06:39
That ain't grilling as a different sun.
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Smoking is slow cooking, and certain temperature grilling is cooking at a high temperature, quickly smoking and grilling two totally different sciences.
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Homie D.
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Lowe says.
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Great question in the title, but we know WBC.
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We beg Canelo the bevel, says Michael Johnson, Boxing talking more salute, Brother Dillo says.
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The infamous green and gold De Lo says the blue blood boxing Mon Sareen says Canela versus Jamel Butter via of plan or Benavidez would be nice.
00:07:15
But, bro, do you see that honestly happening with his track record? This is This is what you can conclude with Canelo.
00:07:23
Canelo does not fight the best people in his division.
00:07:27
What he does is he can get a name, but that name is usually past the expiration point.
00:07:32
They're past their best, or that name is taking a fight at a disadvantage.
00:07:38
Or, like Kovalev Kovalev, in my opinion, through that fight, they were saying over levels, losing a fight When he was out jab, he was jabbing **** out of Canella with slap jabs, a jab that's knocked down people and knocked out.
00:07:50
People suddenly can't hurt Canelo.
00:07:53
I got moving up multiple weight classes, please, Michael, John says, WBC hustling on the streets.
00:08:01
Yep, De Lo says they just got benefit as big F you Cannella already said, No more Mexican opponents.
00:08:08
Yep, I recall that, uh, Zino says, Big up.
00:08:13
Uh, What's up, man? Dello says Canelo doesn't have to be held accountable.
00:08:17
The WBC adjusted the computer.
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All threshold limits for the Golden Goose.
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Canelo.
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Yep, they did.
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The bevel says.
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Canellos avoided the best competition at 54 60 and 68 75.
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Don't forget 75.
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He's avoided that competition to He jumped up and he thought, What's his name? Uh, Covalin? Kovalev was not the best.
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Come at 75 when they fought, he was asked last, to be honest with you, De Lo says the bevel The champ.
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Yes, he has a *****.
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He has eventually as well.
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At 75 when he went up there and started built to cheat history.
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Lance Meyer is laughing.
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Zino says.
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I will give him credit for being Cal Smith, the title holder, but I would really like to see him in a big next fight.
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I ain't going to trash him for.
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This fight is decent.
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This is the things you know.
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I'm not trying.
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I'm not trying to trash Callum Smith.
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I don't have a problem with Callum Smith.
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Callum Smith just doesn't have elite ability.
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He just doesn't have it.
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The problem is, Canelo is that is a career Canellos career is laden with advantages.
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I can allocate, helped Eddie Short, but you're moving up where the guys are bigger.
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Why do they have Thio? Why do they have to have weight clauses? Why do they have to have six week turnarounds Thio accommodate you? I don't care if you are supposedly the biggest name in the sport.
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That's a miss Number two Floyd Mayweather, still hanging around there like a booger.
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He he hasn't really relinquished that title, and I guess in February he about to show you he's still the biggest name in the business.
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So that's a miss number and massage.
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He hadn't been on pay per view, wasn't a year and a half, and when he when he, when he was going off paper, feel he wasn't doing well.
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So these are all miss numbers, essentially, what it is.
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He has the home team advantage with the WBC being from Mexico, and they have catered Thio Canelo for the longest time.
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And if you're being fair, you can concede that point.
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Lonely Boxer says A crazy staff for me with Canela is he hasn't found anyone younger than him in seven years.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, son.
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Thank you.
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I've been saying it forever then all of the way in stipulations.
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And I like Canelo Frustrating.
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I read that one more time.
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Long live boxes.
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A crazy stat for me with Canelo is he hasn't found anyone younger than him in over seven years.
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Then all the way in stipulations.
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And I like Canelo frustrated.
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But it's the truth now, De Lo says.
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I'm sorry. The bevel says fax.
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Diello, Boxing a salute to your brother.
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Monastery says Sad, but true.
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Salute, line kill.
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Appreciate you, man, Zino says.
00:11:17
Salute my bro.
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Retro boxing and do***entaries.
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Lance Myers says, I would call Smith a cherry picked up.
00:11:23
I wouldn't call Smith the cherry pick, and that's how you feel who are, If that's how you feel, who are credible opponents, bro.
00:11:29
There's a lot of credible opponents.
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Hell, who's got to get to me? Might be better than Smith Kayla Plant.
00:11:37
The only reason Kato plan didn't take that fight.
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It was the turn around time.
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You try to cheat a man by giving him a short training camp.
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I think it was a six week turnaround, so that's why he passed on the fight.
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I can't remember why Charlo passed on the fight, but Ronnie Shields gay that reason when he, when he came on, came on the show so you could go back and go look at the running shields, uh, conversation we had with him live.
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He'll tell you why they didn't take the Canelo fight just because you don't you don't take a fight because it's not because it's not conducive to you.
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That's not a dug the Everything's a negotiation.
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Everything's business.
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If you make a fight and you pull out the fight, that's a duck to me.
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But they were in talks and something wasn't right.
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De Lo says.
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Canelo strategically maneuvers around to cheat boxing history.
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I agree with that, and that's what I've been stating.
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The Bible says. Salute alone.
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Live boxing G Funk says.
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I don't know why the franchise champion wants.
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Uh, okay, cut off, Hold on.
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I'll get back to I guess G Funky retro says Xeno.
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Uh, Cry kitty.
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Salute.
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Uh, yellow says salute the bevel.
00:13:00
Larry Thorne says Canelo Falco over 10 weeks after he almost got knocked out by yard.
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I could be wrong, but I've never heard of that before in a championship.
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Exactly. Broke.
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Exactly.
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I don't remember being to what that was eight weeks.
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I thought that was an eight week turnaround.
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The dello says.
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Uh, Canelo is an opportunity, and it's indefensible.
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De Lo also says Luke Blood.
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Gino says, Yeah, right on.
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It's a decent fight, but I want him in a competitive fight next.
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Not to mention I would hate to see his talent go to waste.
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When what, have you really seen him in a competitive fight? Listen, Triple G was a marketing ploy for HBO.
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Once Charlo and on Dry moved to the division instantaneous instantaneously.
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Triple G became number three in that division.
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Ability wise, I don't care what anybody says, but people have to live.
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People live in narratives these days, so they got.
00:14:01
If they, if their guy is not what they are, is what they believe, that's what they're gonna believe.
00:14:06
And if he's really not what they believe they're gonna hold to, that they're going toe hold to that, the Bible says, avoided the Charles and Andre that 54.
00:14:15
That's a fact.
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Then again, at 60 avoided planting Benavidez at 68 then avoided our pater via about 75. ****.
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Excuse me, De Lo says Canellos.
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Pay per view numbers were inflated.
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You won't prove.
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Turn, turn, turn on.
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I'm sorry I'm stuttering today.
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Turn to HBO.
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Fight night? Yep, G Funk says.
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I don't know why the franchise champion wanna fight for the regular belt. Exactly, bro.
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But that's that G funky.
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That's the crazy thing, bro.
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He's fighting for the regular belt because belts look good on paper.
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Look, a look at how ESPN trying to create ah factoids saying that Triple G exceeded title defenses of Bernard Hopkins, which is a complete and utter lie and falsehood.
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They created a lying stat.
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You don't count regular title defenses.
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There shouldn't even be a ****ing regular title.
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That's ludicrous in itself.
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That should only be one title per division in a perfect world, one title per division, but we're never going to get a perfect world.
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So there should only be four built, one belt representing every sanction, the body for each division.
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Not, you know, Can I talk? You know, Can I get a what? What built? Can I go to Six Flags? Have a good pass built? I mean, it's ridiculous.
00:15:45
De Lo says Kovalev had had a weight.
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Clause two and yard had no chance of land.
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Canela had to be Kovalev.
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He was too young an athlete. That's a fact.
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That dude is not going to fight people his age or younger, and it is show.
00:16:00
And if you think I'm a hater, just go do your **** research.
00:16:05
It's ridiculous.
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Do you know? Says Ain't no franchise champions.
00:16:10
They are franchise distinctions, Zino says.
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On dry will get washed by canela.
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My opinion on dry it is so fundamentally poor.
00:16:18
I think Charlo versus Canelo is a great fight.
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I don't think he's going to get washed.
00:16:22
To be honest with you, I think honestly, Charlo is the more not Charlotte.
00:16:28
But Andrea is the more difficult matchup for Canelo.
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Canela has to figure out how to land on the guy can l.
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A.
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Also has to figure out a 6 ft three frame, and he ain't gonna He's not gonna land the body shots with Andrea, but also at the same time.
00:16:46
I I could see to your point that we haven't we don't know what on dry it is from the outside looking in.
00:16:52
Android has seemingly has a talent, but we don't know until he's been pressed until he's far elevated competition.
00:17:00
So I half agree with you there.
00:17:03
Monsoon Rains says him and Jamal, born the same year and plant Benavidez both younger than him.
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He won't be able to age him out. Nope.
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Nope.
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A O B's, he says.
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None of these guys that 60 68 will face each other, not just Canella.
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Hey, you're not lying.
00:17:23
I don't think you're lying there.
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Honestly, it's just with It's a lot of constipation in boxing.
00:17:29
Lot of stopped up people.
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A lot of stopped up divisions.
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G Funky says the franchise thing literally makes my hands, but yeah, it's bull****, bro.
00:17:37
They straight up bull**** and it's it's sad that that now we're creating.
00:17:43
Ah, now we're creating, you know, certain stuff.
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Hold on one second, one second and I send somebody something still somebody.
00:18:09
Okay.
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Are we doing this PBC official guy? Okay.
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Sorry about that, guys.
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Uh huh.
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The trade says on dry.
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The UN drive is a defensive beast.
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For sure, Johnny lost his un drive is for sure the more difficult got a box with from his style of fighting.
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He is, uh, hello, says Andrade's like Laura Michael Johnson's.
00:18:52
I told folks Kovalev should not take that fight. Then the gas out.
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I wonder why he he took the pay his gas out was a throw out.
00:19:02
Let's call it what it is.
00:19:03
He threw that fight, bro.
00:19:05
He threw the fight.
00:19:07
Tracy is a franchise.
00:19:08
I franchise women when I'm done with sick, sick G.
00:19:15
Funk says style wise on Dr is more difficult fight for Canelo than Charlotte Movement gives.
00:19:20
Charlotte gives Canelo problems.
00:19:21
That's a fact, and honestly, and this is how.
00:19:24
And you know I didn't don't like to do this, but un dry style of fighting is like Laura's, except there's a big gap in in extremities, height, reach speed.
00:19:41
I don't know about power.
00:19:43
I don't know.
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I don't know about Andrea's power at 60 but power power can start.
00:19:49
Thio increase when you're getting tagged.
00:19:52
Canella would get tagged a lot with Andhra.
00:19:56
Canelo is too short to score against on Dried if he stays on the outside.
00:20:02
I don't think Canellos quick enough to hit Andhra.
00:20:06
I think it poses a lot of problems for Canelo.
00:20:11
Canelo will have.
00:20:12
He'd have to sacrifice himself a little bit.
00:20:17
Take a risk which he doesn't do against a guy like Andhra now against Charlie.
00:20:23
I think Charlie would just straight up beat his ass.
00:20:27
I would like him.
00:20:30
I would honestly like in a Charlo Canelo fight Mawr to a deer Ivanchenko fight that we saw with Charlo.
00:20:38
Canelo will fight with him.
00:20:39
He'll definitely fight with him till he can't fight with.
00:20:43
He'll have to do something different or to start complaining to the refs.
00:20:47
Because let's face it, I'm looking at Charlo and I've been looking at Charlotte for a while.
00:20:52
He's a big ass dude and he can move.
00:20:54
He's athletic.
00:20:55
He's not his fastest on Dr but he has thuds **** hurts.
00:21:02
And if you get in a firefight with this kid, most likely between the two of them, Charlie is gonna win that Charles gonna win that.
00:21:11
And at the end of it, somebody somebody's dropping.
00:21:15
In my opinion, if Canelo wants to trade Canelo, upper body movement is good.
00:21:21
It's not Tony esque.
00:21:22
It's not James Toney esque, but it's good.
00:21:25
But if you get Canelo backpedaling, if you get canela moving side to side with his feet, he's in trouble, especially gets an athletic fighter.
00:21:35
If you don't understand that, go in there.
00:21:38
Like I said, you don't understand that.
00:21:40
I can't explain it to months.
00:21:44
Theresa's Charlie willing to walk through the fire.
00:21:46
He got a strong champ, power and power and won't let Canelo take rounds off.
00:21:51
Charla is the more difficult fight than on dry to meet.
00:21:53
Well, I could see your point.
00:21:56
I could definitely see your point when it comes straight up to a straight up fight.
00:22:01
But for for for Canelo to be effective, he has to score or look like he's scoring.
00:22:08
The ability of on dry if Andres talent holds up to the level of a canelo is, is that he can stay on the outside all day scoring and keep Canelo at bay.
00:22:21
Canelo would have to go inside, and that's a risky proposition coming in when a guy's long is long, like Dimitris on dry for a fight with Charlo, you have a more traditional Canelo fight.
00:22:38
Except he can't hang with him, in my opinion.
00:22:44
And that's just how I see it.
00:22:45
Jose Jose Yepez in the building says Charlo is at 60 and Canellos at 68.
00:22:50
So it doesn't matter right now, bro.
00:22:52
They it matters because they were both at 60 and it didn't matter to him.
00:22:56
They were both at 50 for it.
00:22:58
It didn't matter to him, Okay, and Runny was on here a few weeks ago, said he's going up to 68 bro.
00:23:08
It's gonna It's not gonna be too long from now.
00:23:11
So what happens when Charlie gets a 68? It's still not gonna matter, bro.
00:23:15
Trust me on that.
00:23:18
It is just He's been selective and just like my boy Sean, alone with boxes just brought up.
00:23:28
Cano hasn't found anybody his age or younger in over seven years, something I've been telling people a long time he got it down to the years, Zino says.
00:23:39
Canelo is good at getting to the inside.
00:23:41
He will be able to faint his way in, slipped his way inside, not to mention under.
00:23:45
I leans forward with the jab Canelo will punish under its Really, Who knows? I don't think so.
00:23:52
I don't think so.
00:23:54
But again, this is the big difference.
00:23:57
You know, un Dried has not fought the level of competition that Canelo has, so you could be right.
00:24:05
But I was at the same time. I could be right.
00:24:07
We don't know what under I can do with an upper level opponent, so I don't disagree with you.
00:24:15
I just really don't disagree with you.
00:24:16
But there's just something that is something that I see.
00:24:21
The trend says, I definitely agree with you.
00:24:23
Canelo legs are his weakness.
00:24:24
Holy says UN dry style has given Canelo problems.
00:24:28
Yep, people that move like that give him problems and they beat him.
00:24:33
But he gets given.
00:24:34
He gets given the WBC benefit of the doubt.
00:24:38
Harold Jones says Canelo needs to give up those 60 belts if he's not going to defend.
00:24:42
I agree.
00:24:43
Neutral natural.
00:24:44
What's up, man.
00:24:45
Red Cliffs is how maney lineal chance had Demetrios on Dr Beat on his resume.
00:24:48
I don't give a **** about that.
00:24:50
How many? How many fights has has Dimitris on dry cherry pick? Bro, This isn't about paperwork.
00:24:57
This is about This is about quality of opposition.
00:25:01
Whether they're at their best or not, this is the whole point of the argument.
00:25:05
If you're coming here coming in here on a on A on a lineal champion, a resume, I mean, how many? How many weight classes has canelo been under undisputed at? I mean, we could go on and on and on.
00:25:16
And there's no disrespect to you, bro, but I'm looking at the abilities here.
00:25:22
I'm looking at the ability toe Thio fight on an even playing field.
00:25:27
It doesn't seem like Canelo can do that.
00:25:31
So it Zatz why there's so many people in these boxing streets that don't that don't really **** with Canelo.
00:25:40
I'm from Texas, man.
00:25:42
A lot of my boys are Mexican descent.
00:25:44
They don't **** with Canella.
00:25:48
They just don't They don't like the way he is.
00:25:50
If you ask a guy from Mexico, they don't like Carmelo.
00:25:55
They don't think he has heart.
00:25:59
They really don't go ask somebody. You know.
00:26:03
How do you feel about Canelo? Be riel.
00:26:10
Jose says if Charlie gets gets to Kayla, Plan belt.
00:26:13
Maybe Canelo would be forced to fight.
00:26:15
Man, that's the thing, Jose.
00:26:18
They can't force Canelo to do anything.
00:26:20
That's the whole problem.
00:26:22
Canelo will throw a ***** fit.
00:26:24
Great plane can plane and everything! He gets his way.
00:26:32
They When's the last time somebody forced Canelo to do something? Think about that.
00:26:38
When was the last time they forced him to do something? Diallo says un dried may be on the way up to 68 as well.
00:26:45
Yeah, they're all moving up there.
00:26:48
Big dudes, man.
00:26:49
They're big dudes.
00:26:50
It's hard to be 63 at 1 60 months of recent.
00:26:53
Do you think Canelo would be able to slip Jamal, Jab the whole fighting? Nope.
00:26:58
Not at all.
00:27:01
Not at all.
00:27:02
De Lo says you could see what? What Andrea it is and what he is.
00:27:06
Still what? He has killed two that skill wise, regardless of who is in front of them.
00:27:10
They said level opposition matters to stay sharp, etcetera.
00:27:13
Yeah, level you can have the ability.
00:27:16
But if you're not consistently fighting or graduating levels, it can be detrimental.
00:27:22
You can lose ability.
00:27:24
That's what I just want to see.
00:27:25
The graduation.
00:27:26
That's what I'm saying.
00:27:29
Holy says I think Cattle Smith is a good opponent.
00:27:33
I know. I heard you say that before.
00:27:35
G Funky says Laura exposed Canelo and hasn't fought someone with that style since.
00:27:40
Well, I guess Come.
00:27:41
Yeah.
00:27:42
Con neutral.
00:27:44
Yeah.
00:27:45
How much? How much did he outweigh? Con neutral National Says Why Print media not ridiculing Canelo fighting for vacant title But the same people ridiculing the bridge weight division Hypocrites you actually spell Hippocratic.
00:27:57
Is that the father of medicine? For the Greeks, Gregory shot Charlie versus plan is an interesting fight. It is.
00:28:07
It is reckless.
00:28:08
Says, uh, say what you want about canela.
00:28:10
Hate him or love him.
00:28:11
Who else is fighting his third legit world champion and world? See, this is what you should probably go back to the top of the lost ring. Red Cliff.
00:28:20
It's not about hate, man.
00:28:21
I don't care.
00:28:22
I don't hate him.
00:28:24
I just wish he would.
00:28:25
I wish he would fight to his ability.
00:28:27
I wish he would challenge himself.
00:28:30
This is all this.
00:28:31
This live stream is about and you can.
00:28:33
You can keep quoting accolades on third legit world Champion.
00:28:39
This that just because they're a champ doesn't make them legit.
00:28:44
Just because they're a champ doesn't make them good.
00:28:47
There's been a lot of world champions, but there's not as many Hall of Famers.
00:28:52
Even not Your barren stand said what I'm saying of Canelo right now.
00:28:57
He said that two years ago in an interview.
00:29:03
Now, if you like Canelo, you like Canelo.
00:29:06
If you're Fanboy Canel, your fan boy, I'm not saying that's you, but we're not talking about what's on paper.
00:29:13
We're talking about what the eyes know.
00:29:15
What people who box.
00:29:16
No, that's what we're talking about, Jose says.
00:29:20
Who knows? He was forced to fight triple G trout and Lauren when Laura called him out.
00:29:25
No, he wasn't.
00:29:27
Jose says.
00:29:28
Certain fans will be a Canelo credit.
00:29:29
If he fights Charla or Andre, I will give him credit.
00:29:33
I'm gonna give him credit because those air guys his age those air guys What? When did he? For the first time he fought triple triple Jews were 36 and Canela was 28 29.
00:29:44
Somewhere in there.
00:29:47
Now that's not their fault.
00:29:48
They're born at different times.
00:29:51
The second time.
00:29:52
Triple G is 37.
00:29:56
We just want to see Canelo literally has a T least 10 fighters hiss same age or slightly younger, that our prime fighters are our prime to fight him.
00:30:09
But he he's not seeking out any of them.
00:30:14
It's not just Charlo and Andrade's plant.
00:30:16
Yeah, you offer plant a fight on short notice.
00:30:23
Why why can't you have playing at his best? Why can't you have these guys at their best? Why do they have to be at a disadvantage? Riel Man won't challenges, Really.
00:30:34
Athletes won't challenges Real champions want challenges, not advantages, Jose says.
00:30:44
So until he fights Charlie, he will get his credit. And that's cool.
00:30:47
That's for you.
00:30:48
That's for you to decide.
00:30:49
That's in your opinion, the Bible says.
00:30:52
Chavez Sr said the same things about Canelo as well.
00:30:55
Yeah, so you got two great Mexican boxing legends saying the same thing is I'm saying the same things I've been saying, and that's just that's just the truth, Zino says.
00:31:13
Yes, he does, but he has lapses in concentration and can get reckless.
00:31:17
That's where Canelo can upset the apple cart and months.
00:31:20
Serene, neutral, Natural says.
00:31:21
For all the people talking about resume for Canelo need to stop talking boxing.
00:31:25
It's basic common sense that so you would have a better resume because he is the money fighting almost every division.
00:31:32
And honestly, those younger fighters are bigger fights.
00:31:36
They are potentially bigger money fights because you're fighting live bodies.
00:31:42
You're fighting live bodies that have accomplished something months and re says You're right, lion.
00:31:47
I'm from Fort Worth, Texas, and my Mexican, uh, partners don't like canela.
00:31:53
They support E.
00:31:54
J and Virgin.
00:31:55
Yep, yep, Zino says.
00:31:58
Yeah, Chavez Sr said Canela wasn't a real Mexican right? Doesn't matter what he said.
00:32:03
The point is that they're pointing out the same things that I'm talking about.
00:32:08
What I'm talking about is boxing.
00:32:10
Don't care about that other ****.
00:32:12
I'm talking about boxing.
00:32:14
We gotta keep it boxing.
00:32:16
I don't care about that personal ****.
00:32:17
I don't care about those personal statements that's irrelevant to me.
00:32:21
That's totally irrelevant.
00:32:23
We're talking about boxing and and what Canelo has to do to show me because I think he I think he's, I think he has.
00:32:33
He has greatness.
00:32:34
I really do believe he has greatness in him.
00:32:36
But prove it to me.
00:32:39
He's always playing the video game on Easy.
00:32:44
He might step up to medium sometimes, but he never plays hard.
00:32:50
When have you ever seen Canelo in a challenging fight? A riel challenging fight? I've seen him beat, and he got given.
00:32:59
He got given a gift, but I'm talking about a challenge.
00:33:04
I'm not talking about to make whether fight Laura Beatem Laura beat him.
00:33:11
Some people think Triple G beat him.
00:33:18
You'll notice.
00:33:19
I didn't say that.
00:33:21
Mr 21 strong in the House is going on, man. Oh, he says.
00:33:24
I don't think can.
00:33:25
L is a top five Mexican boxer of all time, but he's the best boxer right now.
00:33:28
In my opinion, Yeah, I disagree.
00:33:30
I totally disagree with that.
00:33:32
I think he's had the best.
00:33:33
He's been in the best position.
00:33:35
That's that's something I will concur.
00:33:37
He's been in the best position of maximize his boxing career.
00:33:41
The Bible, says Xeno.
00:33:42
That's not for me to debate.
00:33:43
I'm just speaking on resume.
00:33:45
Neutral, nutritious Canelo Canelo have welterweights that we're fighting for payday when he's gonna fight when he's gonna fight a prime fight that gives him a stylistic challenge.
00:33:55
So his resume is filled with names, but not too many problems.
00:33:58
Opposition? Exactly.
00:34:00
You have summarized what I'm saying in a nutshell.
00:34:04
With that statement, I'll read it one more time.
00:34:07
Canelo has welterweights that would fighting for payday.
00:34:12
When is he going to fight a prom fighter? That gives him a stylistic challenge? So his resume is filled with names, but not too many prime ops opponents.
00:34:24
Oh, this is large trout.
00:34:25
Triple G was challenging to me.
00:34:27
Not really Triple G. C.
00:34:30
This is where Laura wanted to fight.
00:34:33
I've got to revisit the trout fight, to be honest with you, because I don't remember it well.
00:34:38
The Lord, if I remember, is clear as day.
00:34:41
Laura one Triple G wasn't challenging.
00:34:44
This is the This is the reason why Triple G wasn't challenging.
00:34:48
They knew Triple G wasn't a risk to knock him out.
00:34:53
They knew that triple G his resume is inflated.
00:34:58
All the triple G nut hug Arendse, who says he's a knockout artist.
00:35:02
Yeah, it's easy to knock out people who are who are not challenging.
00:35:09
The first time Triple G gets a challenging fight is essentially Kell Brook.
00:35:15
He challenged him at least before rounds before he was able to hurt Kell. Brook.
00:35:19
Ah, welterweight! That moved up.
00:35:20
Two divisions to fight him on short notice.
00:35:27
Okay.
00:35:29
Ah, Welterweight gave him problems.
00:35:33
Then you see? Then you see him against Canelo.
00:35:40
I got has moved up again.
00:35:43
Who gave him problems? But he wasn't able to dispatch him or hurt him.
00:35:49
Triple G wasn't able to hurt Canelo.
00:35:52
He tried to box with him.
00:35:54
Where is this vaunted power? This ability to knock people out.
00:35:58
Hurt them? It evaporated into fights.
00:36:04
Come on, let's be riel.
00:36:06
Let's be fair.
00:36:08
Let's be honest.
00:36:09
Let's be unbiased, Believe me.
00:36:12
If Canellos whipping a person's ass, I'm gonna tell you, Canellos whipping a person's ass.
00:36:17
That's what I'm seeing.
00:36:21
Come on, We shed ****! The skin of the fan boy.
00:36:28
Shed it And I'm not.
00:36:29
I'm not going at you, Jose.
00:36:31
I'm just saying in general, bro, share that.
00:36:34
Come to the altar.
00:36:36
Let let's do like they do in those churches.
00:36:37
Come to the altar.
00:36:39
All right.
00:36:40
Come to the altar. brother.
00:36:41
It's all right.
00:36:42
To be honest, it's all right to be unbiased.
00:36:45
It's all right, t tell the truth.
00:36:49
Uh huh.
00:36:51
Let's keep it, riel.
00:36:54
Let's keep it, Riel.
00:36:56
Let's see here, Mr 21 star says.
00:37:00
Yes, Lara.
00:37:01
One dirty, Shaw says.
00:37:02
I wonder if Canela wins this vacant belt with the WBC franchise.
00:37:05
Him again when benefit as a Charlie, become his mandatory? Probably for Texas up.
00:37:10
Yeah, what's up for text? Neutral.
00:37:12
Natural, says Smith versus Billy Joe.
00:37:14
Son is both duct each other.
00:37:16
Hmm, Kenny, I'm sorry, Zino says.
00:37:19
I know I was just saying that.
00:37:21
I thought Chavez Sr said that the Devil champ, Eric R.
00:37:24
Says, All I do know is that triple G pressure had canela looking for oxygen tank.
00:37:29
That pressure might have had him looking for Oxygen tank, but he couldn't put him away.
00:37:34
So that tells you that tells you right there, Triple G wasn't the monster that he was, uh, that he was promoted to be, because if a God moves up from middle weight and I hope you all remember when Oscar Dela Hoya moved up to fight, Bernard Hopkins got knocked the **** out with a body shot a liver shot, and he wasn't doing.
00:37:55
He was doing okay until he wasn't.
00:37:59
That was the difference between a middleweight in a welterweight.
00:38:04
Triple G.
00:38:05
Supposed to be.
00:38:06
Some people think this dude is it would give Would beat Marvin Hagler.
00:38:12
But he couldn't.
00:38:13
He couldn't hurt Canelo.
00:38:15
Alvarez! Come on, man.
00:38:19
Come on.
00:38:20
Let's be riel.
00:38:21
Let's be honest.
00:38:23
Oh, this is I can't I can't name another 60 or 68 fighter with a better rest.
00:38:27
See, y'all go back to that resume.
00:38:29
****, That's what That's where you're missing me.
00:38:33
Yeah. You all look on paper.
00:38:35
Oh, he found this guy and that guy and this guy.
00:38:37
But you're not looking at the conditions of the fight.
00:38:41
The age of the fighter.
00:38:42
You're missing me with that ****.
00:38:44
That resume argument.
00:38:45
Don't play online.
00:38:46
Killer podcast.
00:38:47
Not in this.
00:38:48
Not on this subject.
00:38:50
Not on this subject.
00:38:51
Not with everything that I've laid out.
00:38:54
Photo says I feel bad from Mexico.
00:38:55
Canellos a disappointment.
00:38:57
The bell says Zeno.
00:38:59
Oh, okay.
00:39:00
I understand who he says He wanted loss against Laura, but it was a challenge, bro.
00:39:04
How many challenges has he really taken? Not meaning General Pence's Larabee. Canelo.
00:39:10
That's true.
00:39:11
Shot outline.
00:39:12
What's a general? Mr 21 Stars? Says Canelo is the king of caveat.
00:39:15
I agree.
00:39:17
Photo text says Canelo got schooled by a mere conference six rounds till he connected.
00:39:21
And listen.
00:39:22
You can **** on Amir Khan's chin.
00:39:24
He's gonna get knocked out.
00:39:27
I'm serious.
00:39:28
You could throw.
00:39:29
You could throw about a piece of paper on on Amir Khan.
00:39:31
He's gonna go unconscious.
00:39:35
Reckless is Laura was closed, but Laura was back.
00:39:37
Dude backpedaling, bro.
00:39:40
I can't even I can't even finish your comment, bro, have you ever heard of boxing on the back foot? Back foot? Boxing is what Mohammed Ali did.
00:39:53
Come on, bro.
00:39:54
It's hard for me that it's hard for me to finish your finish.
00:39:56
Your statement here? Backpedaling.
00:39:58
He was backpedaling, tapping his ass.
00:40:01
Come on, homey.
00:40:03
We gotta be riel.
00:40:04
We gotta be honest, Red Cliff, I challenge you brother to go watch that fight again.
00:40:10
Go watch the fight again.
00:40:12
Please.
00:40:14
Please reassess Mr 1 21.
00:40:17
Stone says I Maconel is the king of caveats.
00:40:19
Oh, this is well, I think Carol Smith is a challenge, so we will see next week.
00:40:23
Okay, fair enough.
00:40:26
Uh, that G 23 says Come to the altar.
00:40:30
The bevel says, When I was when I was a superb Floyd Fanboy back in the day, I call Hagler Duran Leonard haters for criticizing Floyd.
00:40:39
Laugh out loud now, seeing the same thing when c****s criticize.
00:40:43
Oh, this is Nobody has really hurt.
00:40:45
Yeah, you know why nobody's really hurt Canelo? Because he's made sure of that.
00:40:50
He's made sure that he doesn't get in the ring with people that can really hurt him.
00:40:55
Look how Danny Jacobs has fought people in the past. And look how he fought.
00:40:58
Canelo! Look how Kovalev has fought people in the past.
00:41:00
And look how he fought Canelo! Smaller guy.
00:41:06
Come on, guys.
00:41:07
I stopped buying.
00:41:08
Stopped behind the juice.
00:41:11
Gina says, Yeah, Triple G was seriously overhyped, calling him the most avoided fighting while time shaking my head.
00:41:16
They must not know about old Sam Langford or Mr Rear Breaker Joe Walcott.
00:41:20
Nope.
00:41:21
You know, I just saw Jersey Joe, not I was looking at the Joe Louis Jersey Joe Walcott Walcott fight.
00:41:28
Watch how Jersey Joe was back.
00:41:30
Was was actually backpedaling, biting on the back foot shifting his motion knocked down Joe dropped Joe like a ton of bricks off that back foot man.
00:41:45
Anybody? Red Cliff? That that that statement bothering me, bro backpedaling.
00:41:52
Backpedaling is a part of the sport, homie.
00:41:55
If you backpedaling and not doing anything, that's one thing.
00:41:58
But when you backpedaling, throwing fire, you connected and scoring, that's back foot boxing, Zino says.
00:42:06
You throw a pebble towards Congestion and he he will have a seizure.
00:42:09
Frank says.
00:42:10
Laura have Canelo hitting? Had Canelo hitting air.
00:42:13
That's a fact, Regular says Lord didn't land Clinton.
00:42:16
Come on, come on, please go watch that fight again.
00:42:20
Oh, they says.
00:42:21
We could say that about most of the days boxes in my screen.
00:42:23
Now we generalize it.
00:42:24
No, we can't.
00:42:25
We can't say that, bro.
00:42:27
France says Laura had Canelo hitting air.
00:42:29
Eric R.
00:42:30
Says Laura was given Canelo a boxing lesson.
00:42:32
Rewatch it, bro Ernest by Ernest Justices watching with no commentary.
00:42:37
Indeed, below, says Canelo just knew he had he had lost the Laura fight, just watched the last rounds in the decision being read.
00:42:45
Yeah, please go watch that fight.
00:42:49
Watch it without my voice watching without anybody's voice.
00:42:53
Just watch the fight.
00:42:56
Dealers has had Mr 21 star.
00:42:58
Mr 21 star says If these Canelo fans want to see them exposed, wait until he faced the best middleweight.
00:43:03
Charlo, wait until you face the best of any of those divisions.
00:43:08
Not just Charlo.
00:43:09
Hurry, Shaw says.
00:43:10
Excuse me.
00:43:13
Excuse me.
00:43:14
Uh, Canelo Canelo literally landed in the single digits to the head against Laura.
00:43:19
Over 12 rounds.
00:43:21
Yep.
00:43:22
Photo text says hopefully took a dive for Canelo.
00:43:26
I agree.
00:43:27
Neutral says Errol Spence fight Mexican style.
00:43:30
Not Canelo.
00:43:31
Uh, yeah, he does fight.
00:43:33
He does fight closer to that deal.
00:43:34
Oh, says Barbados. Joe Walcott.
00:43:36
Was that dude? Yep.
00:43:37
Red Cliffs says triple G B Canel in the first fight.
00:43:40
And if Jacobs would have pressed the action, he would have won.
00:43:43
But the question is, Red Cliff, Why didn't he pressed the action? Because Canelo wasn't doing anything.
00:43:50
He was doing anything special.
00:43:52
So why did Jacobs not fight his fight? Why did he fight? Not to look bad.
00:43:59
But why didn't he fight? Toe win? He fought.
00:44:01
He fought not to look bad, But he didn't fight to win the fight.
00:44:05
Why why Frank says Willie Peppers alleged for his defense.
00:44:11
But to today's boxing fans, defense is running.
00:44:14
No, Willie didn't run.
00:44:16
I've seen rounds where Willie was up in your face and you still couldn't hit him.
00:44:21
You know, people you gotta understand boxing is various styles, man.
00:44:28
You know you have.
00:44:29
You have to figure out how to be a style, Zino says.
00:44:35
I was talking about the original 51 Okay, Gotcha.
00:44:37
Welterweight champion Barbados Joe Walcott, who was avoided by Jim Jefferies.
00:44:41
Gentleman Jim Corbett cuts.
00:44:43
He says Canelo could only land body shots against law.
00:44:47
Yep, it really went landing well there.
00:44:51
Eric R.
00:44:52
Says. You can't compare Canellos career to Floyd.
00:44:54
90% of the names Canelo fight with shells are shot.
00:44:57
De Lo says.
00:44:58
Kovalev basically admitted he showed up vs Canelo.
00:45:02
It said only a fool would bet on.
00:45:04
Yep. Tax taxes, man.
00:45:06
No man.
00:45:07
Can L. A. Be triple G M. Both fights neutral.
00:45:09
Die Natural, says Jacobs, has no identity in the ring.
00:45:12
None none.
00:45:13
That's why I I don't I don't mess with Danny Jacobs.
00:45:16
I'm done with Danny Jacobs, Danny Jacobs.
00:45:19
After that Canela fight.
00:45:20
Never again, sir.
00:45:22
Never again.
00:45:24
Never again, General Penny says.
00:45:28
Kovalev took a dive and was still popping Canelo a head back with his jab.
00:45:33
And we know Kovalev got one of most vicious jabs in the game.
00:45:36
Canelo shots in that fight were unaffected.
00:45:39
Kovalev Not at all.
00:45:41
And to be honest with you, Kovalev was really slapping him with that jab. He wasn't.
00:45:45
He wasn't sticking him with that jab.
00:45:47
Like I know he can.
00:45:49
Holy says Canela won't get credit for Callum.
00:45:52
If he wins, I could tell, bro.
00:45:53
See, that's the problem.
00:45:54
You think You think because you're in here and we're discussing something? That's a valid point that we also Fanboys.
00:46:02
****. We're not Fanboys in here, Jose.
00:46:05
I'm just telling you what I see.
00:46:08
If I know, he's gonna be Calvin Smith by a show.
00:46:13
A show of comments.
00:46:14
How many people here think Callum Smith is gonna be Canelo Alvarez? Yes or no? I'll wait.
00:46:22
How many people here think Al Smith has a remote chance to be the Canelo Alvarez? Yes or no? Uh huh.
00:46:33
Neutral dynamics is after Louise areas fight for me.
00:46:38
General Peter says true dello says.
00:46:40
Then Jacobs had the nerve to part ways with his trainer because he didn't want to pay the man once he reached that big payday.
00:46:47
Yep, G Funk says.
00:46:48
Canel in a lot of shots on the elbows, back and elbow and below the belt, which aren't scoring punches.
00:46:54
Thank you, D funky.
00:46:56
And guys, if you all think there's some kind of agenda here G Funky is a Hispanic brother.
00:47:01
Okay, if you all don't know, we We were the boxing community way.
00:47:07
The real boxing community we were about were about box there.
00:47:12
There are no divides in our community.
00:47:16
None just keeping it real. Keeping it fair.
00:47:23
Tax taxes.
00:47:24
Jacobs Be triple G.
00:47:27
That's arguable.
00:47:28
I mean, I felt he did for Texas.
00:47:30
Note.
00:47:31
Gregory Shaw says, Callin Lost Thio.
00:47:32
General Rider.
00:47:33
He was like he was like, Not shot or no shot.
00:47:38
Okay, I'm not know a storm, y'all, Frank says.
00:47:41
Canelo is already ahead of the scorecards for the next three fights.
00:47:44
Yep, because he says, Callan lost his last fight against John Ryder.
00:47:47
His style is perfect for Canelo.
00:47:49
He's Rocky fielding just a little better.
00:47:51
He's just better.
00:47:52
That's all it is.
00:47:53
Body shot to the end of them at the end of the night.
00:47:56
That's what I keep saying.
00:47:57
He's rocky fielding with mus**** on it.
00:48:01
Neutral says no.
00:48:02
Silas says no photos.
00:48:04
Has Canelo wins versus Smith off streets has no English fighters being canel. Thank you, sir.
00:48:10
Oh, this is I think Callum is a challenge.
00:48:11
Hey, you may believe that.
00:48:13
I'm just saying I don't see it.
00:48:17
Hey, Jose, you can you can you could justify you could justify it in your mind, man.
00:48:23
The rest of the chat doesn't agree Just being real with you.
00:48:27
But I love the fact you in here because you you've been coming.
00:48:30
You've been listening for a while, man.
00:48:32
So you know, we're not always gonna agree.
00:48:34
But I appreciate your opinion.
00:48:36
Neutral says Caroline Smith ain't beat nobody but older Injured George Crows Eric R says they canelo except to call out Y'all know if it's going if it's gonna happen.
00:48:46
Uh, hello, says the winner of Smithers.
00:48:48
Canelo gets full credit for me.
00:48:50
That doesn't change the fact that Canela moves like he does to take the path of least resistance to prop up his accolades.
00:48:56
And I'm not taking credit for Canelo winning his fight against Smith.
00:48:59
He's gonna win the fight.
00:49:01
It's not.
00:49:02
It's not me taking credit.
00:49:03
We know it's a It's a very predictable outcome.
00:49:07
If you wanna know how predictable the outcome is, watch the watch the betting odds.
00:49:12
Watch the betting odds when it's all said and done, Jose says Callum is a challenge for Charla or on dry ****.
00:49:21
Guarantee you is not.
00:49:22
I guarantee you that that he's not any sports.
00:49:26
Once his line killer, Please help me understand.
00:49:27
Do champions fight for vacant belts? I thought Champions are supposed to take other champions belts out their waste.
00:49:33
Maybe. Exactly, bro.
00:49:35
That's exactly what champions they're supposed to do.
00:49:38
Champions don't fight for vacant belts.
00:49:40
That's why there's catfish at the bottom of my lake on this thumbnail.
00:49:46
That's why there's cap fish, eating diapers and WBC vacant titles.
00:49:52
This is the whole point.
00:49:53
We've got to change the mentality of the sport, de Lo says.
00:49:56
As soon as the writer fight was over, Canelo started locking, locking, licking his chops.
00:50:02
Harold Jones says Supreme Court just shot Trump down.
00:50:05
Of course they did.
00:50:06
What's up? Harold Zino says Yes, he was like light heavyweights running out of the ring against him.
00:50:12
It was a regular thing, sadly, through a lot of fights, because he would have got killed.
00:50:16
Otherwise I'm missing who you're talking about.
00:50:19
Um, Eric R says laugh.
00:50:21
You gotta Ko Canelo to get a draw.
00:50:25
Hey, I don't know what it takes to get a win against Canelo.
00:50:29
In that case Dealer says Smith could have beat Canelo, and I'm gonna I'm still gonna say Canelo thought he was sweet as a possibility, De Lo is highly unlikely.
00:50:40
We just No way.
00:50:42
Just know the model.
00:50:43
We just know the modus operandi of Canellos model.
00:50:48
But it Smith is a professional fighter.
00:50:51
At any given day, he could be Canelo.
00:50:55
I won't take that away from Smith.
00:50:57
And I don't have a problem with Smith, But we know why.
00:51:01
Smith.
00:51:02
Excuse me.
00:51:04
We know what we know.
00:51:05
Why Smith got this fight.
00:51:07
We know why he got this fight.
00:51:11
Frank says Cannella had a very close and see when I'm gonna go back with Smith.
00:51:17
Got this fighting for the W B A title.
00:51:19
Now, suddenly it's for the WBC vacant 68 one week before the fight.
00:51:28
Suddenly the WBC them through, they had in with a fresh, vacant title.
00:51:35
Come on, man, France says Canela had a very close fight against trial.
00:51:41
Of course, he's going to stay away from Andhra to Charlo to athletic man.
00:51:46
Cousin says.
00:51:47
Do you think Canelo not being signed to a major network will work against it with judges and future bouts? Nope, Not at all, because he has a sanctioning body behind him.
00:51:55
Foe takes his man Canela got my hopes up for no reason.
00:51:57
He could've fought plant.
00:51:59
Yep, De Lo says.
00:52:01
When I met your credit, I was responding to ever said They see, See Canela won't get no credit.
00:52:05
He's going to get credit people.
00:52:07
That's all they do is give him credit, Gino says.
00:52:09
Look at look.
00:52:10
It's a decent fight, but C**** is gonna win.
00:52:14
I don't think I don't know if it's a decent fight.
00:52:16
We know I do agree he's gonna win.
00:52:19
I don't know if it's a decent fight, though.
00:52:21
I just don't see it, bro.
00:52:24
I'm thinking about cattle Smith speed his his footwork, his ability e don't see.
00:52:30
I don't know if it's gonna be a decent fight, man.
00:52:32
Hey says look, at least he's fighting a champion, unlike these other pretend champions fighting so called tune ups.
00:52:38
See? But that's the That's the thing.
00:52:42
You kind of did a double there.
00:52:45
People can proceed Cattle Smith the same way.
00:52:47
I'm not saying that, but people can perceive it that way.
00:52:50
Bobby Swags is lying Killer.
00:52:52
What's up? What's up, Bobby? Swag. Jose.
00:52:54
Yep, it says, I also think BJ s versus Andrea is a challenge.
00:52:58
Just like playing versus Charlo.
00:53:00
De Lo says. Yep.
00:53:01
WBC.
00:53:02
Let Loma fight for the vacant WBC belt at 35.
00:53:04
Like sucker like suckers.
00:53:06
W B A.
00:53:07
Did say, did the same thing for a J versus flag? Yep, they picking certain guys.
00:53:12
Zinos laughing.
00:53:13
Jose says C**** is not a champion at 68 but he will be next week.
00:53:19
He will be next week.
00:53:21
That's what I'm saying, dog.
00:53:23
He will be next week.
00:53:25
Next week he will be champion at 68.
00:53:32
Frank says r i p The tiny a k deVeau Zeus uh, tiny lister.
00:53:38
Tax taxes.
00:53:39
If Canelo B Smith, he he go get the he gonna get the ring.
00:53:42
So that's the W B.
00:53:43
A super title WBC title in the ring magazine built that goes that goes set up at Benavidez fight.
00:53:50
Mark my words.
00:53:51
Doubted? Doubted he He ain't trying to fight that dude, the bell says.
00:53:56
Canelo said the reason he's not fighting Andres because he's boring that Zatz the worst type of excuse I've heard Harold Jones calendars domestic level Like most UK fighters, Reckless says could be propaganda Bs.
00:54:08
A tricky, but reports came out in January that Canelo offered Charlo fight.
00:54:12
Charla declined, according to Boxing Boxing 24.
00:54:15
I told you, Well, you weren't I don't think you were here at the beginning. Reckless.
00:54:19
But I mentioned that we had running Shields on the podcast, I wanna say, three weeks ago, and he gave the reason why they turned that down.
00:54:31
In most cases, it's a short turnaround, bro.
00:54:34
It's not proper there.
00:54:36
They have when you hear their camps.
00:54:38
The reason sound valid.
00:54:40
Yeah, they can.
00:54:41
They can make those offers, but they're not expecting those fighters to take those offers.
00:54:46
Yeah, the data and what happens is when the fighter does take that offer, what are they going to do then? But you could go back to me and Neitz conversation with running shields Running was was on the program for two hours.
00:55:03
So you have.
00:55:04
You have to sit through it.
00:55:05
But he gave the reason why they didn't take their fight because I asked him.
00:55:07
I asked him about that fight.
00:55:09
And several people. The chat.
00:55:10
Ask him about that fight.
00:55:11
I don't need the article.
00:55:12
I talked to Bernie Shields.
00:55:14
Mr 21.
00:55:15
Charlotte says I see this as a ZZ fight for Canelo.
00:55:17
Jose says, yeah, Children was the opponent for the WBC.
00:55:20
Y'all rather CEO Diversity Canelo that matter.
00:55:25
You're missing the point, Jose.
00:55:27
All I want to see all I want to see is Canelo.
00:55:30
Fight the best.
00:55:32
Not the fillers, not the filler champions.
00:55:38
I want to see him fight the best.
00:55:39
I want to see the best come out of Canelo.
00:55:42
And I think that you're missing the whole point.
00:55:44
Trying to argue for Canella.
00:55:47
You're arguing for Canelo instead of seeing what Ah lot of people see.
00:55:53
Any sportsman says no line killer! You're wrong.
00:55:55
Canelo will be unified.
00:55:56
Champion! Uh, what was that wrong about? Frank says if he if he was to be Canel, this would be a huge.
00:56:03
It would be be colossal.
00:56:06
It would be a colossal upset.
00:56:08
Mr 21.
00:56:09
Strong says that Smith gets past the 66th round.
00:56:12
It would surprise me.
00:56:13
Yeah, it was surprised.
00:56:15
Me, too.
00:56:16
Okay, let me go back here real quick before I go, Uh, which I know something real quick.
00:56:27
Okay, Y'all need to g o.
00:56:28
I'd probably be there about an hour and a half from now, but you'll need to go to boxing Playhouse night on YouTube and go check out me.
00:56:37
And they were gonna be on boxing playhouse tonight.
00:56:39
We're gonna be on the panel chopping it up with them.
00:56:42
So check out Boxing Playhouse tonight at seven o'clock, but I'll probably be a little bit later.
00:56:48
They will be there at seven o'clock Central.
00:56:50
So go ahead and check out box.
00:56:52
So that Z 50 minutes from now 50 minutes from now, he'll be live, and I'll be coming in a little bit later.
00:56:59
Guys, I got to go ahead and go.
00:57:00
But I read these last comments.
00:57:02
Any sportsman says I meant not a champion, but unified champion.
00:57:05
I got you.
00:57:06
Uh, the bevel says to be honest, nobody.
00:57:09
And I mean, nobody's ever heard of Rocky Fielding before the Canelo fight.
00:57:13
Hell, his job hadn't even heard of him before.
00:57:15
Broke? All right, you know we out, man, this is the Lion Killer Podcast.
00:57:21
Come check us out on Boxing Playhouse at seven o'clock.
00:57:25
NATO be their first.
00:57:26
I've come in a little bit later.
00:57:27
I'm gonna let you guys later.
00:57:29
Peace.

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