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00:00:01
you know what? And with that, friends, welcome into a Friday morning edition.
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SportsCastr News, NFL side of things.
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Of course.
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I'm Adam are in Britain.
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Joined every Friday morning by Laurence Owen, sir.
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How are you coming off that Thursday night matchup? Uh, a little disappointed.
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Probably like a lot of people who watched that game.
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Yeah.
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Listen, you called forth anyone.
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If you weren't in on the broadcast last night along with Ray Route, you called for the Rams toe win, this one.
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You know, I called for the Patriots, but I think we both said both on the broadcast and after of just wasn't a lot of confidence one way or the other.
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And ultimately, Ray really had this one pegged, I think, as he should as a Patriots guy off.
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Yes.
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Could the Patriots win this game short? But if not, watch out because it's going to get away in a hurry.
00:00:54
And in that opening drive for the Rams, I think really told you everything you were going to need to know.
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They look dynamic, and the Patriots defense looked like they were just gonna be outmatched at a lot of positions across the board.
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there? Well, I mean, for the majority of the season, the New England Patriots defense has not been good against the run.
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They've been great against the past, but not good against the run.
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And the Rams got cam makers back, and they utilize the hell out of Cam makers this game.
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And he just he ran the ball down their throats the entire game.
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Yeah, it's hard to look at that, and I mentioned him last night and saying that felt like a key cog Rams talk to having a rotation of backs, but really, always need one guy that establishes himself and can makers clearly is that guy, at least for this season.
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So that's the first domino to fall and then rate talking.
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I mean, what did you see in the passing game from from Jared Goff and how they were able to do this because one of the stats, I don't know if we covered last night, was the idea that Jared Goff has some of the highest percentage throws under five yards right? He gets the ball out quickly and lets the receivers do the work more of the same last night from him, him I mean, they're continuing to understand how to mitigate risk around around Jared Goff.
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Well, I mean, yeah, sometimes play action is beautiful with a, uh, past designs under 10 yards.
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Because if you're running the ball, well, then that that linebackers have to come up in to make sure that when when you fake that handoff that they're there and then you got your tied end your wide receivers.
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Guys like that where your secondary is playing off a little bit, they're able to make these little little quick hitch routes and things like that slant routes.
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And it's just easy pickings for the guy that's that's sitting there.
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Especially got someone like Jared golf who you could just, you know, little pitching catches to your tight end.
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You're running backs and your wide receivers off that play action.
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Now it's a little bit.
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This game gets a little bit skewed because the Rams get up early, so you don't necessarily get the same balance of gameplay that you would, you know, just being 24 to 3.
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But golf only has to throw for 137 yards, 16 to 25.
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5.
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3 are perfect police not exactly glowing and Katie are raring under 48.
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So again, it's so weird to say, I couldn't have been more wrong.
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Let's say my prediction in the game, but also everything that I thought was right.
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Jared golf isn't wasn't going to be the thing that moves the needle for you Here.
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You have a handful of receivers for them, including the tight ends like you mentioned who catch 30 yards.
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Three guys in the thirties.
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Can't acres gets a couple of balls there, Really? It's the 1 71 and a 5.
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9 clip.
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What did you see? One defensively from the Patriots trying to stop cam makers.
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And if you wanna blow past that, that's fine as well.
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On the other side of it's something that we talked about with Ray last night was the offensive line for the Patriots can control defense in front of the records.
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I make the case that they did for stretches, and then it comes down to Cam Newton making those throws.
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But at the end of the day, the Damian Harris peace just doesn't come through, and when you're not a pass catching running back as well you start to pull away from that.
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And now you're taking.
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You don't have a dual threat back, right? You don't have it all in one package.
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He starts to come off the field.
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You start to try to lean on white a little more.
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And we talked about this yesterday to having to change your game script to something that you don't want to be doing is a hard thing to do on the fly, especially when you're down by a couple sores.
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Well, in a game where you're going to two guys that generally you haven't seen a whole lot of, uh throughout the season and Nick Ill Harry and Jacoby Meyers getting most of your past catches and making your big plays, you know something ain't right, right? You know that your game plan is not going to what you want.
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Uh, and and that's exactly what happened.
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He's got the kill.
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Harry had a big catch.
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What? That that don't happen.
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And and that tells you right there, that that the Rams were taking away any of the prime targets that that Cam Newton had out there on the field.
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He was he was trying to get to his 3rd and 4th reads.
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But the defense of line uh, the Rams was just getting pressure on Cam and not giving him time to throw that football and pick apart.
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Uh, we're not not just picking part, but get through his progressions fast enough.
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And if you can't get a run game established the way the Rams did, then you don't have time because they're not afraid of your run.
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They're not gonna crowd that line of scrimmage.
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They're gonna sit back and just play.
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That pass and camp Was Kim was in trouble immediately as soon as it became 10.
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Nothing right away.
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This this game immediately.
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You knew that was going to get out of hand.
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Really, really fast when we talk about a bad Q b r for Gerry Goffin is 2.
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9 2.9.
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Sub three are can do this now.
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There's a couple of things with the lead article.
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He was obviously, uh, Bill, it gets asked.
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You can do it in your quarterback and I I'll just take a brief pause on this where I got I love I love Bill because not only does the answer exactly how you think with? Yes, he's our starting quarterback, but the front ends it with.
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I'm so glad you asked that question.
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I'm so glad that you asked that question.
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It's a really important one. Yes, he is.
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And you know so people.
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It takes all the air out of it and also almost makes you think for a brief second that maybe something bigger is coming there.
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The There's a couple of things you talked about those receivers for.
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For the New England Patriots.
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I'll ask you two part question, cause here's the Here's the problem.
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Three catches for Harry, 49 yards but a long of 30.
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So did a lot of that in one catch five for 48 for birds along the 25 Myers for for 47 along of 31.
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So but each one of these receivers had a big chunk game.
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Is there a world where you should have considered just saying we're gonna live with the results? I mean, it's still only nine of 16 for Cam Newton here.
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You know, you get a little taste of of Jared Stanton.
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Of course, he goes five per seven and 27 yards.
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3.
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9 clip, just in case people think there should be that quarterback change.
00:07:17
But do you think you just have to kind of say, All right, let's go for it, throw the interceptions if you're going to Cam Newton.
00:07:23
But let's just try to open this up and see if we can get these matchups.
00:07:27
The workforce.
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Now you know the Rams were playing a relatively soft secondary defense.
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There you take the big chunk play on occasion here.
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Is that a route they should have tried to go and or even when you're down as Bigas, they were Onley 11 carries for Damian Harris, but a nice average 11 for 50.
00:07:44
Do you just also maybe have to say, I understand we may not win this game, but if this running attack is our best bet, then let's stick with it.
00:07:51
Let's keep driving it.
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Just keep doing it.
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Maybe we lose 24 to 13.
00:07:55
You know, maybe it ends up being a slow bleed, but would you rather just go with what's been working for you all season as opposed to get caught in this in between murky area where again, you're taking off one of your best weapons.
00:08:06
Damian Harris has been the consistent weapon in that backfield.
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And you didn't say, All right, let's get him off here.
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Let's get our past catcher in your getting into uncharted territories that, you know hasn't been a recipe for successful.
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Yeah, that's that is an issue.
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But at the same time, when you're a team that does something very well, But the other thing is not.
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You don't do very well at all.
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You cannot change up.
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You can.
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I mean, it's a situation where you needed your defense to clamp down.
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And they did.
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In the second half, the New England's defense really did clamp down quite a bit.
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They forced him three and out.
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The Patriots had opportunities to score in this game.
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Um, in the second half, they were down 1/4 and four.
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I believe it was in the red zone.
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They couldn't hear no at, like the fourth and goal of the four.
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Right? And they went for it.
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Didn't get it, you know.
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So that's points off the board.
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Um, first half action there, by the way, first half in the first half, because they were down there.
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A couple of times in the first half.
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You have golf.
00:09:15
It's It's a weird play, but a great play by the defense for the Patriots, right, caught ball and just kind of pulled away and rolled over.
00:09:21
So you get that turnover.
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But then it follows up in that sequence, or Cam Newton throws the interception for a pick six eso, You know, just like that you go from Hey, I know we're down.
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Things don't look right at the gate here, but if we could get some points on the board, just reset the table.
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Boom, touchdown the other way.
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And just like that, you're a 14.
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I think it's 14 3 at that point in the first half.
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And then on top of which I want, let's focus on this little bit. You go wherever you want.
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But that play call, I think, on the broadcast.
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They blamed Cam Newton when they went for it on fourth and goal there, and it's a options and r P o option.
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He steps up in and it looks like he's thinking about pitching it out to Damian Harris.
00:10:00
He ends up holding on to it, but you can see that there's a linebacker going out there to get Harris.
00:10:05
There's no way that if he pitches that thing that could have been a pitch for interception and and six points going the other way, they ended up blaming Cam Newton.
00:10:14
I actually I mean, that's a pretty head scratching play call there for me, you know, for us, good as McDaniels is, and we all know that he is a good offensive play caller.
00:10:23
There's got to be your pretty deep into the season to not get a little bit more creative with what you want to do in that situation.
00:10:31
Excuse me? That's a situation where they needed toe.
00:10:34
Have one of their, uh, tight ends actually break out in front off instead of putting up the block out in the flat in front of where you were running the football.
00:10:47
That way, it is a true option for him, and he could either keep it, pitch it or throw it.
00:10:53
If he had that option, that would have forced the linebackers off of him and Harris.
00:10:59
And you know, what's your poison that are are Oh, right.
00:11:04
That was a run run option.
00:11:05
Yeah, that was one run option And so, yeah, I didn't like that play call.
00:11:11
Uh, you I don't know.
00:11:14
The play call is right.
00:11:15
The design on the play was not right.
00:11:17
I didn't like that.
00:11:18
So but yeah, I mean, you're right.
00:11:22
Cam Newton made the smart decision.
00:11:24
I mean, that could have been a turnover, as you said for big yardage and maybe point.
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So, you know, he chose to play it safe on that situation.
00:11:34
Honestly, right.
00:11:37
Cam Newton's bigger than Harris is.
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So, uh, and and he had a better angle.
00:11:42
Thio even get your footage on that run.
00:11:44
So that was actually smart of Cam to just hold onto the football and run it forward That look, sometimes when you're watching the game and you're hearing these guys, you know the commentators, you just gotta take it with a grain of salt, because they're they're just going off of of reaction.
00:12:02
Right then and there.
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They don't have a moment toe, actually think about what in the world they're saying and what's developing in front of their eyes.
00:12:10
That's fair.
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Thea other.
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The other interesting thing that I picked up in this game and I wondered if Ray we'll see because he said last night, it's getting away from us.
00:12:18
We may go on and do our post game wrap up before this one conclude I didn't get a chance to check in with him and Connor on D P N commentary.
00:12:24
But do you think that because then and then and then we're gonna get off this game and talk about the big picture for both these teams both in this season and the offseason.
00:12:32
But do you find it interesting that for as run capable of Cam Newton is, they don't do AARP? Oh, yes, but rollouts e I find it interesting that you don't see Cam Newton out in space more so that even if it is really a 90% r p o run option that you wanna be going with, just get him in space because kind of that point about that fourth and goal.
00:12:57
I understand it's a condensed area.
00:12:59
It's gonna be difficult, but just the idea of roll him out, get him mobile and then, like you say about having that tight end out there in space.
00:13:06
Maybe it is Harris, but in a receiving opportunity there, whatever it looks like, I've been surprised on the handful of games that I've looked in on the Patriot this year that you don't see him out on the edge.
00:13:16
And I know he's not the same type, but like a Russell Wilson.
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Or like, you know, Kyler Murray.
00:13:21
He's not the same runner that he once was, and he's a much bigger quarterback.
00:13:24
But it just feels like the Patriots maybe aren't and this could be a product.
00:13:27
That's what they are this year.
00:13:28
They're not giving him a lot of room to be able to operate, because that r p o.
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That he ran there in the red zone.
00:13:34
He was trying to fake that pitch to maybe give himself a narrow alley between a linebacker and defensive lineman, as opposed to saying, Hey, can you get a guy to miss an open space that wasn't open field? That was congestion, And can you just protect yourself through it? Okay, so in a way I wouldn't mind seeing a couple rollouts.
00:13:54
But I understand because of the film that I've watched on Cam Newton on why there isn't rollout, can you can you know Cam Newton is a north south runner. He's a big guy.
00:14:06
He does not move laterally very well at all.
00:14:09
So, um, in this situation, what you want is if you want to be able to split the middle of that defensive line and push all your defenders to the outside That way he could step up and run forward if he needs to, rather than side the side.
00:14:27
That is the best way for blocking for Cam Newton and giving him an opportunity if he wants to run to run it.
00:14:35
Um, but I mean, Ray says they have one of the best inside offensive lineman in the NFL between both guards and the center.
00:14:48
In this game, they were completely dominated by Aaron, Donald and Michael brokers.
00:14:56
I mean, dominated.
00:14:58
It was awful.
00:14:59
Cam had no time at all.
00:15:02
And we talked about that idea of, you know, even if you mitigate what they're doing, especially when you're a run heavy team, both from the quarterback and running back position for New England, you can be keeping those guys off, which they weren't doing a great job last night.
00:15:15
But it doesn't mean that you are also creating the lanes in the alleys that indeed and this is a one off games, so it doesn't mean that this is the referendum on them.
00:15:22
But those are two very good defensive players, and they were ready to go after them and really put the pressure on this offensive unit before we move on the big picture, 24 to 3, lost for New England off of a 45.
00:15:35
Nothing win over the Chargers.
00:15:37
Does the truth lie somewhere in the middle? Just for where this team in general is? I don't think they're as bad as they played last night or as good and dominant.
00:15:45
Maybe as they looked against the Chargers.
00:15:47
They have a strong defense.
00:15:48
They're missing a lot of pieces.
00:15:49
But this is a team that I think their game script has to be checking the boxes through every quarter, right to have success and be in games.
00:15:58
If you get away from it, they're in danger.
00:16:01
This'd the team right now that is relying on good field position because of defense and special teams.
00:16:06
This is how they're getting points on the board and a ZA.
00:16:10
Much as I love good special teams play and good defense and play, you gotta be able to move that football offensively, at least on your own, to a point to be able to score you.
00:16:22
You gotta, at least twice a game, come down with a 13 play, 75 yard drive, maybe yard drive.
00:16:30
Now they did have that twice, and that was it.
00:16:34
You know, um, but you can't rely on your special teams scoring 14 points and your defense giving you basically guaranteed three, maybe seven, because of where they, you know, some turnover that they got for you.
00:16:49
You can't rely on that every game.
00:16:52
And that's that's this current situation that they're in right now.
00:16:56
Now granted there.
00:16:57
Special teams and defense is really, really good and able to do that against teams that are willing to take those chances or a bad specialty.
00:17:08
When you have a team like the Rams and Sean McVeigh is like, you know what we're gonna play, protect the football, not turn the football over and walk down the field and watch us do 15.
00:17:20
Play nine minute dries, you know, and just run it down your throat and not turn the football over.
00:17:27
That completely kills anything that New England Patriots really want to do as a team as a whole.
00:17:34
Yeah, and you're talking about 25 past plays for Jared Goff, 36 run plays for the collective unit behind Cam makers on the flip side, 29 a combined 23 past attempts from the both quarterbacks there for New England.
00:17:47
So there's also a disparity and number of plays getting run, and we know how that effects the defensive side of the ball.
00:17:52
What you're able to dio, um, let's let's say one thing for those people out there that are like, Well, Jared Stead of look really good.
00:17:59
When he came in, he was playing against a defense that was playing soft coverage.
00:18:04
Yeah, not wanting to give up the big play.
00:18:08
Of course, he's gonna play better.
00:18:10
Any quarterback in the end, you could have.
00:18:13
You could have put anyone back there at that point in time, and he would have probably went five of seven for 50 yards.
00:18:20
You know, there's always those comments after games like this where you go, Yeah, but the game was over the whole.
00:18:27
The whole reason stinted is in the game is because the Rams are saying thanks so much And by the way, so are the Patriots were saying, All right, this one's in the books here.
00:18:33
We're going to get what this guy gets.
00:18:34
Um, reps.
00:18:35
It's good first in, um, but it doesn't mean anything to what you can expect from him going forward.
00:18:39
You know, that's a good point to bring up.
00:18:40
Well, um, let's go with the Rams here just for the big picture first.
00:18:44
Because, you know, for all intents and purposes, the Patriots in a very murky spot as far as keeping their season alive in that playoff picture for the Rams, we said it last night.
00:18:52
Get a win against the Patriots.
00:18:54
You line up the New York Jets next week.
00:18:57
We don't want assume you're going to get a win there, but it probably feels pretty strong.
00:19:02
You should feel confident in it, and then you're gonna have division rivals in the Seahawks and the Arizona Cardinals.
00:19:08
My New York Giants can do another week here of doing the Rams of favor.
00:19:13
The Rams beat the Giants early in the season, took care of Seattle for them last week, take care of Arizona for him this weekend.
00:19:20
The Rand's could come out of this week, and depending on what happens with the Seahawks, they could come out of this week feeling like our ticket has been punched and then next week and just be automatically cementing that.
00:19:31
We're Are they a nine? You know, Are they a 10 11 win team? In terms of the quality of football they can play is what we saw from that defense.
00:19:40
Can they keep doing that down the stretch and heading into the playoffs? Because I'll admit I've been saying, Boy, it looks like maybe that that division is a little bit softer than we thought coming in.
00:19:51
There is a world where the Rams are just legitimately the one quality team there, with everything that the 40 Niners had to deal with this season, that could come out and really be a threat in the playoffs because of San Francisco's health.
00:20:06
Yeah, currently the Rand's or the most well rounded team in that division that their defense special teams offense all the way across the board.
00:20:15
I think that now, with its San Francisco's healthy, I think you might have an argument here.
00:20:20
But with with, uh, Arizona's troubles on defense, Seattle's troubles on defense the troubles of the fact that if you could get pressure on Russell, Wilson and and Murray and kind of lock them in Thio inside their pocket golf is a guy who's fine with being stuck in the pocket, Right? Uh, he'll throw that football away or just release it quickly.
00:20:49
We've seen that a few times last night where there was pressure on him, he just threw it at a feat of one of the receivers.
00:20:55
You know, he just threw it away, so that's fine.
00:20:59
I don't see Russell doing that.
00:21:01
Russell will try to scramble to extend the play.
00:21:04
Kyler Murray will do the same thing, and it could end up, you know, turning into a negative play for them.
00:21:10
Where golf has learned that you know what, throw it away, live to play another down, and that's that's, Ah, big step for golf, in my opinion, from what we've seen in the past from him.
00:21:23
So, yes, I believe that there is a There is a very good, legitimate chance that at the end of this week, if the Giants somehow come away with the win against the Cardinals, man, the Rams could be feeling really good about walking into the playoffs this season.
00:21:39
Now let's take it a step further.
00:21:40
Good, I was gonna say on the flip side, New England, I think.
00:21:44
Conor from DP and Commentary.
00:21:49
I think he said it best on a Twitter on a tweet last night.
00:21:53
The Patriots team to win five of their next three to make the playoff.
00:21:56
I like that.
00:21:58
Yes, you know when when you look over the landscape of the of the A F C, it's just hard when you talk about the Raiders that are gonna play your Colts this weekend.
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They're seven and five.
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You have 84 Colts team and eight and four Tennessee team combined with a nine and three Cleveland team and then even ahead of New England in their own division with the Bills and the Dolphins, 93 84 respectively.
00:22:20
Even with three wild card spots available, there's a lot of you had to stack these winds.
00:22:25
I mean, there's a world where it could take 10 to get into any any.
00:22:30
Any one of those three wild card spots could require 10 wins, and maybe your best chance would be talking about taking a look at a team like the Raiders, who could be closer to 500 so that that slim sliver of a door that could be open also is depending on.
00:22:44
By the way, I didn't even know the layer deeper and say the Baltimore Ravens are also a seven and five teams, so you know there's still an opportunity.
00:22:51
I you know I can't take them completely out of it yet, but you would need significant help starting this weekend.
00:22:56
You need five teams toe all take losses to go.
00:23:00
Okay, maybe there's still a chance there, so we won't belabor that.
00:23:03
As's faras, the playoff picture goes, but really real quick. Other Rams.
00:23:08
When you look around out the NFC in general, one of the things you do have to nod to to the top three teams in this division outside of San Francisco.
00:23:17
You know, the Rams air now plus 79 in point differential. That's not insignificant.
00:23:21
They've only surrendered 246 points defensively.
00:23:24
That's good for Top Top four top three, probably after this weekend in the NFC alone.
00:23:30
But if you think about say, you're gonna win the division if you need to take on a Tampa Bay, and then, oddly enough, it's gonna be a mixed bag of somebody.
00:23:39
I mean, maybe it's Minnesota.
00:23:40
Maybe that's being Minnesota through the first round.
00:23:43
But let's think about the Saints in the Green Bay Packers.
00:23:45
Do either one of those teams have really concerns about playing the Rams, though, in a second round matchup? I think Tampa Bay would, because I think that front can really put pressure and scare Brady quite a bit, especially with what you saw last night.
00:24:05
I'm not as certain.
00:24:06
It depends upon how the Saints play with Taysom Hill in there.
00:24:11
I think that's a situation where they you know what I think we can game plan around that defensive front.
00:24:16
Um, now threes is playing.
00:24:18
That might be a different story, but with with the fact that you got Hill and Berries and the way you know how Sean Payton loves to play the design a game and prepare, I think he's in a good situation.
00:24:31
Toe play the Rams now Green Bay.
00:24:38
If you're gonna walk into Green Bay, I don't think Green Bay really worries too much because I think Green Bay has got a good secondary.
00:24:47
They They're not great against the run.
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I think I think acres.
00:24:51
But you're gonna have to put a bunch of points on the board if you're gonna play Green Bay.
00:24:56
Well, isn't it interesting to think that if it's the States, the Saints, you go, boy, that defense against Jared Golf and then you focus on Jared Golf and say, Well, now you could have a problem because they could really disrupt your passing game and that looks different and and that makes it interesting.
00:25:09
But then, for Green Bay, you go.
00:25:10
Do you have the defense to really shut down? Maybe not, But also, I don't know if I'm worried about that, because I look at Aaron Rodgers and I go, That's OK.
00:25:17
We'll put up the points we need to.
00:25:19
So it's so weird that just from team to team or matchup to match up, it's such stark differences about what's going to tell those type of games for you.
00:25:27
Likewise, taking on even if it was tasting Hill or Drew Brees.
00:25:31
I know Drew Brees a pocket guy but relative to playing the Saints or the Bucks, where you go well, if It's Tom Brady back there.
00:25:38
Then all of a sudden, my defensive front is that much more of a weapon for the Rams and getting after him.
00:25:42
So it's really weird how you can pick out very specific differences for these matchups.
00:25:47
But I don't wanna take it away from them.
00:25:50
I really think, comes down to They haven't proven it yet.
00:25:52
I'll say, you know, we know they made it one time, but you look at and I go well, I'd be concerned against the Saints defense.
00:25:59
I'd be concerned against the Packers offense and maybe that Tampa Bay matchup is a little bit unique.
00:26:04
But I probably put the Rams on the undercard, right.
00:26:07
I put them on the on the back foot against both of those matchups, and that's, you know, obviously not how you want to approach it, but it would make it very interesting where I don't know who gets scared by the Rams, necessarily on paper.
00:26:18
Yeah, I mean, the Rams, they've made it to a Super Bowl, so you have to respect them.
00:26:26
This is basically the same team that made it to the Super Bowl.
00:26:29
So, um, minus a couple of different players, but those players have been replaced by arguably better players.
00:26:38
Uh, cam makers is playing very, very well.
00:26:41
I mean, their their their their corner is Jalen Ramsey now? Uh, no.
00:26:51
Yeah.
00:26:52
Doesn't hurt.
00:26:53
Yeah, that that doesn't hurt it all.
00:26:55
And michael brokers was playing out outstanding right now, uh, to go along with Aaron.
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Donald.
00:27:02
So, um, beef this team.
00:27:04
And don't forget Van Jefferson, who was out there actually producing for this team in his own unique way, especially on special teams.
00:27:12
So, um, in a way, I would respect them mawr now than what I did in their Super Bowl run.
00:27:20
But do they scare me? Not as much as what others, because they're good all the way around.
00:27:30
But with, like, Tampa Bay, they got all these weapons, and their defense is just so dynamic and can cause issues.
00:27:37
Uh, the New Orleans Saints, you know, same situation.
00:27:41
And then they're dynamic on offense in multiple different ways.
00:27:44
And Green Bay, you're just like, how do you stop him? You know him well, that man there goes, Yeah, you know, he's on a terror, So there's nothing on the team outside of Aaron.
00:27:59
Donald I have to put that on there.
00:28:01
But outside of that, there's nothing really on that team.
00:28:05
That goes, man.
00:28:07
I really have the game plan around that, and that's the issue.
00:28:11
Well, and so we're going to close out just on big picture thoughts for the Patriots.
00:28:15
But last quick question is we talk about Jared Goff.
00:28:19
They're highlighting a lot.
00:28:20
Wow, last night when we spoke about it, cup and Woods can make you got dynamic, right? All the way down to Reynolds, even at the third wide receiver.
00:28:28
So Maney pig be all these weapons.
00:28:31
Is it still ultimately, though, that Jared Goff is limiting the ceiling of this team? Is he still? Are you still restricting what you're capable of accomplishing with him is your quarter? Because I and was the point of the big names like Aaron Rodgers on the team.
00:28:48
Yeah, well, obviously putting Aaron Rodgers on any team.
00:28:50
I could probably point to a handful of second tier quarterbacks that I might rather have under center as opposed to Jared golf.
00:28:59
And that would change how I think about them going into the playoffs.
00:29:03
The thing about Jared golf right now is just accuracy is incredibly streaky.
00:29:06
You watched last night.
00:29:08
There were times when he dropped it right on a dime.
00:29:10
And then the very next play.
00:29:12
It's at the feet of the receiver and golf wasn't pressured and the receiver was open so that, yes, I do believe that that is, it's it's living and dying right now off of golf.
00:29:23
And I think that that's why they're trying to run the ball as as much as they are with their with that running backs table that they have, Um, golf it.
00:29:34
You will find out what golf you have in a gang in the first two drives, and that's that's the great thing that you you've got with him.
00:29:43
Uh, if he comes out of those first two drives five of 76 of eight, something like that, then you can lean on him.
00:29:51
You know that you might have two or three bad passes, but for the majority of the game, he's going to do well if in those first two drives you see three of 74 of eight, you're gonna wanna stay away from letting golf through that football because he's gonna end up giving it to the other team two or three times now as we shout out to everybody that joined us on the live stream here like Kitty Cat and Heels and 93 82 as well as Yankee Mary 45, Brian.
00:30:22
Brian.
00:30:23
Yeah, Brian CCMP.
00:30:24
Sorry.
00:30:25
Sometimes these monikers they're so hard to pick apart.
00:30:27
Good thing I had Lawrence here to help me.
00:30:28
Thank you for checking us out.
00:30:30
Remember, The other thing, too, is that this is a Jared golf on a four year $135 million contract like and that's the nature of quarterbacks.
00:30:37
It's the way that it works in the NFL, but also right here you go.
00:30:41
But also, how quality is that is that value for return on investment.
00:30:46
And we did this over on on one giant podcast and myself ahead of the season off ranking quarterbacks in the combination off the player on the field and the money that you're spending on him because I compete in a picture where you say, How much worse or better do you get with the Ryan Fitzpatrick of the world for around the league? You know, on this ranch roster, I'm not saying that they're the same quarterback.
00:31:08
I'm not saying you don't want off over Fitzpatrick, but I am saying What other areas of your team could you make exponentially better if you had an extra 20 to $30 million in salary cap? Every single season is just.
00:31:20
It's so interesting that the team that drafted player, usually if he's good enough, you're gonna pay him the big money and then you're just going to realize as you work through it.
00:31:28
Was it worth it? Well, it could be a lot worse.
00:31:32
Carson Wentz could be.
00:31:33
That's quarterback, but 100% and that's a great example right now.
00:31:37
That's why I think like I'm not.
00:31:39
That's what it's a weird thing of being like.
00:31:41
I'm not even knocking Jared golf.
00:31:42
It's just the reality of what he is at the quarterback position and guess what, Like you said and it could be a lot worse, you could be.
00:31:49
You could be benching Jared golf right now and saying Let's see what happens from our back up and that's what the Eagles are going through right now.
00:31:56
Putting out another quarterback that they might be finding isn't going to be the answer, either.
00:32:00
So there's certainly tear to that.
00:32:01
All right, last but not least, here on the Patriot side of it as they work their way into the off season as they think about what they're going to dio.
00:32:09
There's been some speculation, too, that the Cam Newton isn't even fully healthy this year that the arm is still going through.
00:32:16
Yeah, so you're talking about Yeah, you say, armed.
00:32:18
But also just body. Physically.
00:32:20
That that's that's a reason why you're seeing a certain style of play.
00:32:23
Do you think that there's anything on the field? Are the Patriots automatically moving on from him? Are they automatically bringing him back? Is it somewhere in between with what other quarterbacks could be available in the landscape is, it's just unfortunate season for Can to try to be re establishing his value, knowing that he's dealing with some other things beyond just the play on the field.
00:32:46
I think it would be unfair to Judge Cam Newton right now, the this is the first time that the New England Patriots have had any opportunity to try to game plan around a quarterback of Cam Newton style Cam Newton has I'm sorry, Ray, but he has trash around him.
00:33:05
Uh, support.
00:33:06
Not tired, right? Yeah.
00:33:07
I mean, that's just on.
00:33:09
But they they talked about it recently to about Nikkila Harry and saying, Hey, invested a first round pick in this guy two years in.
00:33:15
Where's the results? I think this is actually the Patriots going outside of their normal thinking and investing at a position and then not getting the payoff, I think I think if the Patriots could get themselves a good tight end and a wide receiver, that can be a number one on a team.
00:33:34
And, yeah, Julian Edelman is not out of number one.
00:33:39
Julian Edelman is a number two.
00:33:41
Ah ah, guy that I think that you would rather have, like, a slot receiver than than your big number one guy.
00:33:47
That that that they was hoping Harry would be, um, Myers.
00:33:52
Myers is a guy that could be a solid number two receiver on a team is well, but he needs a number one there in order to get him the opportunities to be a good number two.
00:34:05
And I mean they have a running game.
00:34:07
They have Ah, good.
00:34:09
Like like Ray set a good inside offensive line.
00:34:13
They're nicked up.
00:34:14
They've had issues with Koven, Uh, the cans dealing with a few injuries issues especially like like I said, that he's got an abdominal injuries.
00:34:24
So that right there, that's gonna that's gonna give him pause.
00:34:28
And also, a lot of your throws comes from your midsection, right when you step into your past.
00:34:35
Yes, that's that's all core.
00:34:37
So I think this is a situation where you offer Can you offer him an extension for one more year? You're not guaranteed him the starting spot.
00:34:49
You offer him an extension, and then you go and bring someone else into compete with him and then see who ends up better in the training camp.
00:34:59
Who who you would go with? Um, maybe it's if you wanna get him around that fine.
00:35:06
But I'm just saying add, add another different quarterback into the mix.
00:35:12
Maybe a traditional guy that you're used to like like that's similar to a Tom Brady.
00:35:18
I'm not saying talent wise.
00:35:20
I'm saying, you know, your traditional pocket quarterback, that's that's good.
00:35:24
Uh, not throwing the football away to the other team and things of that nature.
00:35:30
Why don't they just solve? Ah, both problems that you mentioned and go ahead and get Matthew Stafford onto this roster under center and then pick up holiday in free agency.
00:35:39
Get the number one wide receiver.
00:35:40
Get the quarterback.
00:35:41
Look, it's solve all the problems.
00:35:43
It will only cost you, you know, in the range of 35 to $80 million and you could be right back in the Super Bowls.
00:35:50
And that's you know, I think you are right that you list all those injuries and this has been a bad year.
00:35:55
A lot of teams have been affected by Cove.
00:35:56
It in different ways, right? There has been a spectrum.
00:35:59
Some teams have been relatively clean from it, right, And even when they've had a couple of positive test, it's hit or in and around their bye week.
00:36:06
Or it's been relatively lower level players.
00:36:08
And they've been able to isolate those incidents that the Patriots have suffered from other teams, getting cove it and how it's impacted their roster, let alone new quarterback New system, no traditional offseason.
00:36:19
So I still the Patriots could lose the rest of their games and go six and 10 on this season, and I would still say it's really impressive what they accomplished.
00:36:27
And by the way, I don't think they're going to go six and 10.
00:36:29
Like, I still think that this team is going to be competitive for the remainder of their schedule if they end up seven and nine.
00:36:35
I mean, that is a That is a really accomplishment, especially with how the teams within that division are playing, so we'll keep an eye on it.
00:36:42
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00:37:18
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Questions on Cam Newton job security draw straight answer from Bill Belichick

The New England Patriots suffered a tough loss against the Los Angeles Rams on Thursday, and it resulted in Cam Newton being yanked from the field for the final 10 minutes of the lopsided contest. After the game, Pats head coach Bill Belichick was asked about his star quarterback’s job security moving forward, and at […]

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you know what? And with that, friends, welcome into a Friday morning edition.
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SportsCastr News, NFL side of things.
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Of course.
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I'm Adam are in Britain.
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Joined every Friday morning by Laurence Owen, sir.
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How are you coming off that Thursday night matchup? Uh, a little disappointed.
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Probably like a lot of people who watched that game.
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Yeah.
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Listen, you called forth anyone.
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If you weren't in on the broadcast last night along with Ray Route, you called for the Rams toe win, this one.
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You know, I called for the Patriots, but I think we both said both on the broadcast and after of just wasn't a lot of confidence one way or the other.
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And ultimately, Ray really had this one pegged, I think, as he should as a Patriots guy off.
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Yes.
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Could the Patriots win this game short? But if not, watch out because it's going to get away in a hurry.
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And in that opening drive for the Rams, I think really told you everything you were going to need to know.
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They look dynamic, and the Patriots defense looked like they were just gonna be outmatched at a lot of positions across the board.
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there? Well, I mean, for the majority of the season, the New England Patriots defense has not been good against the run.
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They've been great against the past, but not good against the run.
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And the Rams got cam makers back, and they utilize the hell out of Cam makers this game.
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And he just he ran the ball down their throats the entire game.
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Yeah, it's hard to look at that, and I mentioned him last night and saying that felt like a key cog Rams talk to having a rotation of backs, but really, always need one guy that establishes himself and can makers clearly is that guy, at least for this season.
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So that's the first domino to fall and then rate talking.
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I mean, what did you see in the passing game from from Jared Goff and how they were able to do this because one of the stats, I don't know if we covered last night, was the idea that Jared Goff has some of the highest percentage throws under five yards right? He gets the ball out quickly and lets the receivers do the work more of the same last night from him, him I mean, they're continuing to understand how to mitigate risk around around Jared Goff.
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Well, I mean, yeah, sometimes play action is beautiful with a, uh, past designs under 10 yards.
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Because if you're running the ball, well, then that that linebackers have to come up in to make sure that when when you fake that handoff that they're there and then you got your tied end your wide receivers.
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Guys like that where your secondary is playing off a little bit, they're able to make these little little quick hitch routes and things like that slant routes.
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And it's just easy pickings for the guy that's that's sitting there.
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Especially got someone like Jared golf who you could just, you know, little pitching catches to your tight end.
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You're running backs and your wide receivers off that play action.
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Now it's a little bit.
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This game gets a little bit skewed because the Rams get up early, so you don't necessarily get the same balance of gameplay that you would, you know, just being 24 to 3.
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But golf only has to throw for 137 yards, 16 to 25.
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5.
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3 are perfect police not exactly glowing and Katie are raring under 48.
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So again, it's so weird to say, I couldn't have been more wrong.
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Let's say my prediction in the game, but also everything that I thought was right.
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Jared golf isn't wasn't going to be the thing that moves the needle for you Here.
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You have a handful of receivers for them, including the tight ends like you mentioned who catch 30 yards.
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Three guys in the thirties.
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Can't acres gets a couple of balls there, Really? It's the 1 71 and a 5.
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9 clip.
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What did you see? One defensively from the Patriots trying to stop cam makers.
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And if you wanna blow past that, that's fine as well.
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On the other side of it's something that we talked about with Ray last night was the offensive line for the Patriots can control defense in front of the records.
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I make the case that they did for stretches, and then it comes down to Cam Newton making those throws.
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But at the end of the day, the Damian Harris peace just doesn't come through, and when you're not a pass catching running back as well you start to pull away from that.
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And now you're taking.
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You don't have a dual threat back, right? You don't have it all in one package.
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He starts to come off the field.
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You start to try to lean on white a little more.
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And we talked about this yesterday to having to change your game script to something that you don't want to be doing is a hard thing to do on the fly, especially when you're down by a couple sores.
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Well, in a game where you're going to two guys that generally you haven't seen a whole lot of, uh throughout the season and Nick Ill Harry and Jacoby Meyers getting most of your past catches and making your big plays, you know something ain't right, right? You know that your game plan is not going to what you want.
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Uh, and and that's exactly what happened.
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He's got the kill.
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Harry had a big catch.
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What? That that don't happen.
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And and that tells you right there, that that the Rams were taking away any of the prime targets that that Cam Newton had out there on the field.
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He was he was trying to get to his 3rd and 4th reads.
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But the defense of line uh, the Rams was just getting pressure on Cam and not giving him time to throw that football and pick apart.
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Uh, we're not not just picking part, but get through his progressions fast enough.
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And if you can't get a run game established the way the Rams did, then you don't have time because they're not afraid of your run.
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They're not gonna crowd that line of scrimmage.
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They're gonna sit back and just play.
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That pass and camp Was Kim was in trouble immediately as soon as it became 10.
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Nothing right away.
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This this game immediately.
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You knew that was going to get out of hand.
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Really, really fast when we talk about a bad Q b r for Gerry Goffin is 2.
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9 2.9.
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Sub three are can do this now.
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There's a couple of things with the lead article.
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He was obviously, uh, Bill, it gets asked.
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You can do it in your quarterback and I I'll just take a brief pause on this where I got I love I love Bill because not only does the answer exactly how you think with? Yes, he's our starting quarterback, but the front ends it with.
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I'm so glad you asked that question.
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I'm so glad that you asked that question.
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It's a really important one. Yes, he is.
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And you know so people.
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It takes all the air out of it and also almost makes you think for a brief second that maybe something bigger is coming there.
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The There's a couple of things you talked about those receivers for.
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For the New England Patriots.
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I'll ask you two part question, cause here's the Here's the problem.
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Three catches for Harry, 49 yards but a long of 30.
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So did a lot of that in one catch five for 48 for birds along the 25 Myers for for 47 along of 31.
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So but each one of these receivers had a big chunk game.
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Is there a world where you should have considered just saying we're gonna live with the results? I mean, it's still only nine of 16 for Cam Newton here.
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You know, you get a little taste of of Jared Stanton.
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Of course, he goes five per seven and 27 yards.
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9 clip, just in case people think there should be that quarterback change.
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But do you think you just have to kind of say, All right, let's go for it, throw the interceptions if you're going to Cam Newton.
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But let's just try to open this up and see if we can get these matchups.
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The workforce.
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Now you know the Rams were playing a relatively soft secondary defense.
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There you take the big chunk play on occasion here.
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Is that a route they should have tried to go and or even when you're down as Bigas, they were Onley 11 carries for Damian Harris, but a nice average 11 for 50.
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Do you just also maybe have to say, I understand we may not win this game, but if this running attack is our best bet, then let's stick with it.
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Let's keep driving it.
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Just keep doing it.
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Maybe we lose 24 to 13.
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You know, maybe it ends up being a slow bleed, but would you rather just go with what's been working for you all season as opposed to get caught in this in between murky area where again, you're taking off one of your best weapons.
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Damian Harris has been the consistent weapon in that backfield.
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And you didn't say, All right, let's get him off here.
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Let's get our past catcher in your getting into uncharted territories that, you know hasn't been a recipe for successful.
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Yeah, that's that is an issue.
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But at the same time, when you're a team that does something very well, But the other thing is not.
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You don't do very well at all.
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You cannot change up.
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You can.
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I mean, it's a situation where you needed your defense to clamp down.
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And they did.
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In the second half, the New England's defense really did clamp down quite a bit.
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They forced him three and out.
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The Patriots had opportunities to score in this game.
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Um, in the second half, they were down 1/4 and four.
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I believe it was in the red zone.
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They couldn't hear no at, like the fourth and goal of the four.
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Right? And they went for it.
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Didn't get it, you know.
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So that's points off the board.
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Um, first half action there, by the way, first half in the first half, because they were down there.
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A couple of times in the first half.
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You have golf.
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It's It's a weird play, but a great play by the defense for the Patriots, right, caught ball and just kind of pulled away and rolled over.
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So you get that turnover.
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But then it follows up in that sequence, or Cam Newton throws the interception for a pick six eso, You know, just like that you go from Hey, I know we're down.
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Things don't look right at the gate here, but if we could get some points on the board, just reset the table.
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Boom, touchdown the other way.
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And just like that, you're a 14.
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I think it's 14 3 at that point in the first half.
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And then on top of which I want, let's focus on this little bit. You go wherever you want.
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But that play call, I think, on the broadcast.
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They blamed Cam Newton when they went for it on fourth and goal there, and it's a options and r P o option.
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He steps up in and it looks like he's thinking about pitching it out to Damian Harris.
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He ends up holding on to it, but you can see that there's a linebacker going out there to get Harris.
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There's no way that if he pitches that thing that could have been a pitch for interception and and six points going the other way, they ended up blaming Cam Newton.
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I actually I mean, that's a pretty head scratching play call there for me, you know, for us, good as McDaniels is, and we all know that he is a good offensive play caller.
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There's got to be your pretty deep into the season to not get a little bit more creative with what you want to do in that situation.
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Excuse me? That's a situation where they needed toe.
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Have one of their, uh, tight ends actually break out in front off instead of putting up the block out in the flat in front of where you were running the football.
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That way, it is a true option for him, and he could either keep it, pitch it or throw it.
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If he had that option, that would have forced the linebackers off of him and Harris.
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And you know, what's your poison that are are Oh, right.
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That was a run run option.
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Yeah, that was one run option And so, yeah, I didn't like that play call.
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Uh, you I don't know.
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The play call is right.
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The design on the play was not right.
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I didn't like that.
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So but yeah, I mean, you're right.
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Cam Newton made the smart decision.
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I mean, that could have been a turnover, as you said for big yardage and maybe point.
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So, you know, he chose to play it safe on that situation.
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Honestly, right.
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Cam Newton's bigger than Harris is.
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So, uh, and and he had a better angle.
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Thio even get your footage on that run.
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So that was actually smart of Cam to just hold onto the football and run it forward That look, sometimes when you're watching the game and you're hearing these guys, you know the commentators, you just gotta take it with a grain of salt, because they're they're just going off of of reaction.
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Right then and there.
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They don't have a moment toe, actually think about what in the world they're saying and what's developing in front of their eyes.
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That's fair.
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Thea other.
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The other interesting thing that I picked up in this game and I wondered if Ray we'll see because he said last night, it's getting away from us.
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We may go on and do our post game wrap up before this one conclude I didn't get a chance to check in with him and Connor on D P N commentary.
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But do you think that because then and then and then we're gonna get off this game and talk about the big picture for both these teams both in this season and the offseason.
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But do you find it interesting that for as run capable of Cam Newton is, they don't do AARP? Oh, yes, but rollouts e I find it interesting that you don't see Cam Newton out in space more so that even if it is really a 90% r p o run option that you wanna be going with, just get him in space because kind of that point about that fourth and goal.
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I understand it's a condensed area.
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It's gonna be difficult, but just the idea of roll him out, get him mobile and then, like you say about having that tight end out there in space.
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Maybe it is Harris, but in a receiving opportunity there, whatever it looks like, I've been surprised on the handful of games that I've looked in on the Patriot this year that you don't see him out on the edge.
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And I know he's not the same type, but like a Russell Wilson.
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Or like, you know, Kyler Murray.
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He's not the same runner that he once was, and he's a much bigger quarterback.
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But it just feels like the Patriots maybe aren't and this could be a product.
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That's what they are this year.
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They're not giving him a lot of room to be able to operate, because that r p o.
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That he ran there in the red zone.
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He was trying to fake that pitch to maybe give himself a narrow alley between a linebacker and defensive lineman, as opposed to saying, Hey, can you get a guy to miss an open space that wasn't open field? That was congestion, And can you just protect yourself through it? Okay, so in a way I wouldn't mind seeing a couple rollouts.
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But I understand because of the film that I've watched on Cam Newton on why there isn't rollout, can you can you know Cam Newton is a north south runner. He's a big guy.
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He does not move laterally very well at all.
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So, um, in this situation, what you want is if you want to be able to split the middle of that defensive line and push all your defenders to the outside That way he could step up and run forward if he needs to, rather than side the side.
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That is the best way for blocking for Cam Newton and giving him an opportunity if he wants to run to run it.
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Um, but I mean, Ray says they have one of the best inside offensive lineman in the NFL between both guards and the center.
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In this game, they were completely dominated by Aaron, Donald and Michael brokers.
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I mean, dominated.
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It was awful.
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Cam had no time at all.
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And we talked about that idea of, you know, even if you mitigate what they're doing, especially when you're a run heavy team, both from the quarterback and running back position for New England, you can be keeping those guys off, which they weren't doing a great job last night.
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But it doesn't mean that you are also creating the lanes in the alleys that indeed and this is a one off games, so it doesn't mean that this is the referendum on them.
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But those are two very good defensive players, and they were ready to go after them and really put the pressure on this offensive unit before we move on the big picture, 24 to 3, lost for New England off of a 45.
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Nothing win over the Chargers.
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Does the truth lie somewhere in the middle? Just for where this team in general is? I don't think they're as bad as they played last night or as good and dominant.
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Maybe as they looked against the Chargers.
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They have a strong defense.
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They're missing a lot of pieces.
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But this is a team that I think their game script has to be checking the boxes through every quarter, right to have success and be in games.
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If you get away from it, they're in danger.
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This'd the team right now that is relying on good field position because of defense and special teams.
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This is how they're getting points on the board and a ZA.
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Much as I love good special teams play and good defense and play, you gotta be able to move that football offensively, at least on your own, to a point to be able to score you.
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You gotta, at least twice a game, come down with a 13 play, 75 yard drive, maybe yard drive.
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Now they did have that twice, and that was it.
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You know, um, but you can't rely on your special teams scoring 14 points and your defense giving you basically guaranteed three, maybe seven, because of where they, you know, some turnover that they got for you.
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You can't rely on that every game.
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And that's that's this current situation that they're in right now.
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Now granted there.
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Special teams and defense is really, really good and able to do that against teams that are willing to take those chances or a bad specialty.
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When you have a team like the Rams and Sean McVeigh is like, you know what we're gonna play, protect the football, not turn the football over and walk down the field and watch us do 15.
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Play nine minute dries, you know, and just run it down your throat and not turn the football over.
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That completely kills anything that New England Patriots really want to do as a team as a whole.
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Yeah, and you're talking about 25 past plays for Jared Goff, 36 run plays for the collective unit behind Cam makers on the flip side, 29 a combined 23 past attempts from the both quarterbacks there for New England.
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So there's also a disparity and number of plays getting run, and we know how that effects the defensive side of the ball.
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What you're able to dio, um, let's let's say one thing for those people out there that are like, Well, Jared Stead of look really good.
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When he came in, he was playing against a defense that was playing soft coverage.
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Yeah, not wanting to give up the big play.
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Of course, he's gonna play better.
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Any quarterback in the end, you could have.
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You could have put anyone back there at that point in time, and he would have probably went five of seven for 50 yards.
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You know, there's always those comments after games like this where you go, Yeah, but the game was over the whole.
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The whole reason stinted is in the game is because the Rams are saying thanks so much And by the way, so are the Patriots were saying, All right, this one's in the books here.
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We're going to get what this guy gets.
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Um, reps.
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It's good first in, um, but it doesn't mean anything to what you can expect from him going forward.
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You know, that's a good point to bring up.
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Well, um, let's go with the Rams here just for the big picture first.
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Because, you know, for all intents and purposes, the Patriots in a very murky spot as far as keeping their season alive in that playoff picture for the Rams, we said it last night.
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Get a win against the Patriots.
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You line up the New York Jets next week.
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We don't want assume you're going to get a win there, but it probably feels pretty strong.
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You should feel confident in it, and then you're gonna have division rivals in the Seahawks and the Arizona Cardinals.
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My New York Giants can do another week here of doing the Rams of favor.
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The Rams beat the Giants early in the season, took care of Seattle for them last week, take care of Arizona for him this weekend.
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The Rand's could come out of this week, and depending on what happens with the Seahawks, they could come out of this week feeling like our ticket has been punched and then next week and just be automatically cementing that.
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We're Are they a nine? You know, Are they a 10 11 win team? In terms of the quality of football they can play is what we saw from that defense.
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Can they keep doing that down the stretch and heading into the playoffs? Because I'll admit I've been saying, Boy, it looks like maybe that that division is a little bit softer than we thought coming in.
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There is a world where the Rams are just legitimately the one quality team there, with everything that the 40 Niners had to deal with this season, that could come out and really be a threat in the playoffs because of San Francisco's health.
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Yeah, currently the Rand's or the most well rounded team in that division that their defense special teams offense all the way across the board.
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I think that now, with its San Francisco's healthy, I think you might have an argument here.
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But with with, uh, Arizona's troubles on defense, Seattle's troubles on defense the troubles of the fact that if you could get pressure on Russell, Wilson and and Murray and kind of lock them in Thio inside their pocket golf is a guy who's fine with being stuck in the pocket, Right? Uh, he'll throw that football away or just release it quickly.
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We've seen that a few times last night where there was pressure on him, he just threw it at a feat of one of the receivers.
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You know, he just threw it away, so that's fine.
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I don't see Russell doing that.
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Russell will try to scramble to extend the play.
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Kyler Murray will do the same thing, and it could end up, you know, turning into a negative play for them.
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Where golf has learned that you know what, throw it away, live to play another down, and that's that's, Ah, big step for golf, in my opinion, from what we've seen in the past from him.
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So, yes, I believe that there is a There is a very good, legitimate chance that at the end of this week, if the Giants somehow come away with the win against the Cardinals, man, the Rams could be feeling really good about walking into the playoffs this season.
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Now let's take it a step further.
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Good, I was gonna say on the flip side, New England, I think.
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Conor from DP and Commentary.
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I think he said it best on a Twitter on a tweet last night.
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The Patriots team to win five of their next three to make the playoff.
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I like that.
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Yes, you know when when you look over the landscape of the of the A F C, it's just hard when you talk about the Raiders that are gonna play your Colts this weekend.
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They're seven and five.
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You have 84 Colts team and eight and four Tennessee team combined with a nine and three Cleveland team and then even ahead of New England in their own division with the Bills and the Dolphins, 93 84 respectively.
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Even with three wild card spots available, there's a lot of you had to stack these winds.
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I mean, there's a world where it could take 10 to get into any any.
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Any one of those three wild card spots could require 10 wins, and maybe your best chance would be talking about taking a look at a team like the Raiders, who could be closer to 500 so that that slim sliver of a door that could be open also is depending on.
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By the way, I didn't even know the layer deeper and say the Baltimore Ravens are also a seven and five teams, so you know there's still an opportunity.
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I you know I can't take them completely out of it yet, but you would need significant help starting this weekend.
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You need five teams toe all take losses to go.
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Okay, maybe there's still a chance there, so we won't belabor that.
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As's faras, the playoff picture goes, but really real quick. Other Rams.
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When you look around out the NFC in general, one of the things you do have to nod to to the top three teams in this division outside of San Francisco.
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You know, the Rams air now plus 79 in point differential. That's not insignificant.
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They've only surrendered 246 points defensively.
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That's good for Top Top four top three, probably after this weekend in the NFC alone.
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But if you think about say, you're gonna win the division if you need to take on a Tampa Bay, and then, oddly enough, it's gonna be a mixed bag of somebody.
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I mean, maybe it's Minnesota.
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Maybe that's being Minnesota through the first round.
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But let's think about the Saints in the Green Bay Packers.
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Do either one of those teams have really concerns about playing the Rams, though, in a second round matchup? I think Tampa Bay would, because I think that front can really put pressure and scare Brady quite a bit, especially with what you saw last night.
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I'm not as certain.
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It depends upon how the Saints play with Taysom Hill in there.
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I think that's a situation where they you know what I think we can game plan around that defensive front.
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Um, now threes is playing.
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That might be a different story, but with with the fact that you got Hill and Berries and the way you know how Sean Payton loves to play the design a game and prepare, I think he's in a good situation.
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Toe play the Rams now Green Bay.
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If you're gonna walk into Green Bay, I don't think Green Bay really worries too much because I think Green Bay has got a good secondary.
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They They're not great against the run.
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I think I think acres.
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But you're gonna have to put a bunch of points on the board if you're gonna play Green Bay.
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Well, isn't it interesting to think that if it's the States, the Saints, you go, boy, that defense against Jared Golf and then you focus on Jared Golf and say, Well, now you could have a problem because they could really disrupt your passing game and that looks different and and that makes it interesting.
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But then, for Green Bay, you go.
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Do you have the defense to really shut down? Maybe not, But also, I don't know if I'm worried about that, because I look at Aaron Rodgers and I go, That's OK.
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We'll put up the points we need to.
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So it's so weird that just from team to team or matchup to match up, it's such stark differences about what's going to tell those type of games for you.
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Likewise, taking on even if it was tasting Hill or Drew Brees.
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I know Drew Brees a pocket guy but relative to playing the Saints or the Bucks, where you go well, if It's Tom Brady back there.
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Then all of a sudden, my defensive front is that much more of a weapon for the Rams and getting after him.
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So it's really weird how you can pick out very specific differences for these matchups.
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But I don't wanna take it away from them.
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I really think, comes down to They haven't proven it yet.
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I'll say, you know, we know they made it one time, but you look at and I go well, I'd be concerned against the Saints defense.
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I'd be concerned against the Packers offense and maybe that Tampa Bay matchup is a little bit unique.
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But I probably put the Rams on the undercard, right.
00:26:07
I put them on the on the back foot against both of those matchups, and that's, you know, obviously not how you want to approach it, but it would make it very interesting where I don't know who gets scared by the Rams, necessarily on paper.
00:26:18
Yeah, I mean, the Rams, they've made it to a Super Bowl, so you have to respect them.
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This is basically the same team that made it to the Super Bowl.
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So, um, minus a couple of different players, but those players have been replaced by arguably better players.
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Uh, cam makers is playing very, very well.
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I mean, their their their their corner is Jalen Ramsey now? Uh, no.
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Yeah.
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Doesn't hurt.
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Yeah, that that doesn't hurt it all.
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And michael brokers was playing out outstanding right now, uh, to go along with Aaron.
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Donald.
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So, um, beef this team.
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And don't forget Van Jefferson, who was out there actually producing for this team in his own unique way, especially on special teams.
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So, um, in a way, I would respect them mawr now than what I did in their Super Bowl run.
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But do they scare me? Not as much as what others, because they're good all the way around.
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But with, like, Tampa Bay, they got all these weapons, and their defense is just so dynamic and can cause issues.
00:27:37
Uh, the New Orleans Saints, you know, same situation.
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And then they're dynamic on offense in multiple different ways.
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And Green Bay, you're just like, how do you stop him? You know him well, that man there goes, Yeah, you know, he's on a terror, So there's nothing on the team outside of Aaron.
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Donald I have to put that on there.
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But outside of that, there's nothing really on that team.
00:28:05
That goes, man.
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I really have the game plan around that, and that's the issue.
00:28:11
Well, and so we're going to close out just on big picture thoughts for the Patriots.
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But last quick question is we talk about Jared Goff.
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They're highlighting a lot.
00:28:20
Wow, last night when we spoke about it, cup and Woods can make you got dynamic, right? All the way down to Reynolds, even at the third wide receiver.
00:28:28
So Maney pig be all these weapons.
00:28:31
Is it still ultimately, though, that Jared Goff is limiting the ceiling of this team? Is he still? Are you still restricting what you're capable of accomplishing with him is your quarter? Because I and was the point of the big names like Aaron Rodgers on the team.
00:28:48
Yeah, well, obviously putting Aaron Rodgers on any team.
00:28:50
I could probably point to a handful of second tier quarterbacks that I might rather have under center as opposed to Jared golf.
00:28:59
And that would change how I think about them going into the playoffs.
00:29:03
The thing about Jared golf right now is just accuracy is incredibly streaky.
00:29:06
You watched last night.
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There were times when he dropped it right on a dime.
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And then the very next play.
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It's at the feet of the receiver and golf wasn't pressured and the receiver was open so that, yes, I do believe that that is, it's it's living and dying right now off of golf.
00:29:23
And I think that that's why they're trying to run the ball as as much as they are with their with that running backs table that they have, Um, golf it.
00:29:34
You will find out what golf you have in a gang in the first two drives, and that's that's the great thing that you you've got with him.
00:29:43
Uh, if he comes out of those first two drives five of 76 of eight, something like that, then you can lean on him.
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You know that you might have two or three bad passes, but for the majority of the game, he's going to do well if in those first two drives you see three of 74 of eight, you're gonna wanna stay away from letting golf through that football because he's gonna end up giving it to the other team two or three times now as we shout out to everybody that joined us on the live stream here like Kitty Cat and Heels and 93 82 as well as Yankee Mary 45, Brian.
00:30:22
Brian.
00:30:23
Yeah, Brian CCMP.
00:30:24
Sorry.
00:30:25
Sometimes these monikers they're so hard to pick apart.
00:30:27
Good thing I had Lawrence here to help me.
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Thank you for checking us out.
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Remember, The other thing, too, is that this is a Jared golf on a four year $135 million contract like and that's the nature of quarterbacks.
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It's the way that it works in the NFL, but also right here you go.
00:30:41
But also, how quality is that is that value for return on investment.
00:30:46
And we did this over on on one giant podcast and myself ahead of the season off ranking quarterbacks in the combination off the player on the field and the money that you're spending on him because I compete in a picture where you say, How much worse or better do you get with the Ryan Fitzpatrick of the world for around the league? You know, on this ranch roster, I'm not saying that they're the same quarterback.
00:31:08
I'm not saying you don't want off over Fitzpatrick, but I am saying What other areas of your team could you make exponentially better if you had an extra 20 to $30 million in salary cap? Every single season is just.
00:31:20
It's so interesting that the team that drafted player, usually if he's good enough, you're gonna pay him the big money and then you're just going to realize as you work through it.
00:31:28
Was it worth it? Well, it could be a lot worse.
00:31:32
Carson Wentz could be.
00:31:33
That's quarterback, but 100% and that's a great example right now.
00:31:37
That's why I think like I'm not.
00:31:39
That's what it's a weird thing of being like.
00:31:41
I'm not even knocking Jared golf.
00:31:42
It's just the reality of what he is at the quarterback position and guess what, Like you said and it could be a lot worse, you could be.
00:31:49
You could be benching Jared golf right now and saying Let's see what happens from our back up and that's what the Eagles are going through right now.
00:31:56
Putting out another quarterback that they might be finding isn't going to be the answer, either.
00:32:00
So there's certainly tear to that.
00:32:01
All right, last but not least, here on the Patriot side of it as they work their way into the off season as they think about what they're going to dio.
00:32:09
There's been some speculation, too, that the Cam Newton isn't even fully healthy this year that the arm is still going through.
00:32:16
Yeah, so you're talking about Yeah, you say, armed.
00:32:18
But also just body. Physically.
00:32:20
That that's that's a reason why you're seeing a certain style of play.
00:32:23
Do you think that there's anything on the field? Are the Patriots automatically moving on from him? Are they automatically bringing him back? Is it somewhere in between with what other quarterbacks could be available in the landscape is, it's just unfortunate season for Can to try to be re establishing his value, knowing that he's dealing with some other things beyond just the play on the field.
00:32:46
I think it would be unfair to Judge Cam Newton right now, the this is the first time that the New England Patriots have had any opportunity to try to game plan around a quarterback of Cam Newton style Cam Newton has I'm sorry, Ray, but he has trash around him.
00:33:05
Uh, support.
00:33:06
Not tired, right? Yeah.
00:33:07
I mean, that's just on.
00:33:09
But they they talked about it recently to about Nikkila Harry and saying, Hey, invested a first round pick in this guy two years in.
00:33:15
Where's the results? I think this is actually the Patriots going outside of their normal thinking and investing at a position and then not getting the payoff, I think I think if the Patriots could get themselves a good tight end and a wide receiver, that can be a number one on a team.
00:33:34
And, yeah, Julian Edelman is not out of number one.
00:33:39
Julian Edelman is a number two.
00:33:41
Ah ah, guy that I think that you would rather have, like, a slot receiver than than your big number one guy.
00:33:47
That that that they was hoping Harry would be, um, Myers.
00:33:52
Myers is a guy that could be a solid number two receiver on a team is well, but he needs a number one there in order to get him the opportunities to be a good number two.
00:34:05
And I mean they have a running game.
00:34:07
They have Ah, good.
00:34:09
Like like Ray set a good inside offensive line.
00:34:13
They're nicked up.
00:34:14
They've had issues with Koven, Uh, the cans dealing with a few injuries issues especially like like I said, that he's got an abdominal injuries.
00:34:24
So that right there, that's gonna that's gonna give him pause.
00:34:28
And also, a lot of your throws comes from your midsection, right when you step into your past.
00:34:35
Yes, that's that's all core.
00:34:37
So I think this is a situation where you offer Can you offer him an extension for one more year? You're not guaranteed him the starting spot.
00:34:49
You offer him an extension, and then you go and bring someone else into compete with him and then see who ends up better in the training camp.
00:34:59
Who who you would go with? Um, maybe it's if you wanna get him around that fine.
00:35:06
But I'm just saying add, add another different quarterback into the mix.
00:35:12
Maybe a traditional guy that you're used to like like that's similar to a Tom Brady.
00:35:18
I'm not saying talent wise.
00:35:20
I'm saying, you know, your traditional pocket quarterback, that's that's good.
00:35:24
Uh, not throwing the football away to the other team and things of that nature.
00:35:30
Why don't they just solve? Ah, both problems that you mentioned and go ahead and get Matthew Stafford onto this roster under center and then pick up holiday in free agency.
00:35:39
Get the number one wide receiver.
00:35:40
Get the quarterback.
00:35:41
Look, it's solve all the problems.
00:35:43
It will only cost you, you know, in the range of 35 to $80 million and you could be right back in the Super Bowls.
00:35:50
And that's you know, I think you are right that you list all those injuries and this has been a bad year.
00:35:55
A lot of teams have been affected by Cove.
00:35:56
It in different ways, right? There has been a spectrum.
00:35:59
Some teams have been relatively clean from it, right, And even when they've had a couple of positive test, it's hit or in and around their bye week.
00:36:06
Or it's been relatively lower level players.
00:36:08
And they've been able to isolate those incidents that the Patriots have suffered from other teams, getting cove it and how it's impacted their roster, let alone new quarterback New system, no traditional offseason.
00:36:19
So I still the Patriots could lose the rest of their games and go six and 10 on this season, and I would still say it's really impressive what they accomplished.
00:36:27
And by the way, I don't think they're going to go six and 10.
00:36:29
Like, I still think that this team is going to be competitive for the remainder of their schedule if they end up seven and nine.
00:36:35
I mean, that is a That is a really accomplishment, especially with how the teams within that division are playing, so we'll keep an eye on it.
00:36:42
It will be interesting to see we shouted, Everybody, thank you for joining us.
00:36:45
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00:36:53
Well, are you coming on later? Is the film breakdown coming today? Is there additional calm? No.
00:36:58
I have my breakdown for the Raiders Colts game that I will be doing it.
00:37:03
5 p.
00:37:04
m.
00:37:05
Oh, Coleslaw. That's right. Yeah.
00:37:07
All right. Nice. All right.
00:37:09
Keep an eye out on that.
00:37:10
And that obviously has.
00:37:12
Yeah.
00:37:13
If you've got If you if you're invested in the colts as a fan or the Raiders, it's going to be both sides of the coin.
00:37:18
Lawrence does a great job with that.
00:37:19
So that's a big game there, possibly being able to flip themselves back into control of the division, or at least keep pace with the Tennessee Titans, depending on how their game shakes out as well.
00:37:27
So go over and check out Colts law.
00:37:29
That's both the live visual spectacle and also a podcast format, so you can consume it in both ways.
00:37:34
I just broke down one giant podcast who took care of that this morning.
00:37:37
Took with the Cardinals so you could go ahead.
00:37:39
Check that out.
00:37:40
If you'd like to, as well, we'll be back in.
00:37:42
I'll be back in next week for maybe some Monday Night Football.
00:37:44
But Lawrence, you'll be checking in on Sunday morning, along with Ray and Joe and Keith giving the full slate of Sunday matchups, gains and predictions.
00:37:53
So be sure to come in for that as well, until next time friends, Thank you for checking in with us, and we will catch up with you soon.
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