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00:00:00
SportsCastr.
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As always, where I am at, um, are breaking over There is the healthy, wealthy and wise Mr Andrew Mack.
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What's How are you, sir? I'm good.
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I'm healthy.
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But it was up with a 4 30 Wake up call.
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Dog scratching to go out.
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Not not the start of the day.
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You want on a Friday, but I am here for the listeners.
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That's right as well.
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You should be.
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We don't We don't back down.
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We, uh What is it, Jack? Reacher never back down.
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I thought you were talking Tom Petty there.
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I thought I thought you were going that everything.
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But I mean, you go, Jack Reacher, if you want.
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Here's the problem, though.
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Because I love Tom Petty is one of my favorite musicians of all time.
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So really, I enjoyed the Jack Reacher line, and now I feel like a real a real jerk.
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Yeah.
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I won't back down, uh, Tom Petty's Heartbreakers.
00:00:42
It is, of course, the Friday edition.
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So we're gonna dive in on the matchup coming up against the Arizona Cardinals this weekend.
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We know, as we talked about on Wednesday, everybody knows how much is on the line for the Giants on a week to week basis before we get into it.
00:00:55
The quick tip of the hat to one of the Giants players that is up for a contract this offseason but has also been doing the right things both on and off the field.
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That's Dalvin Tomlinson.
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He is the Giants nomination for the Walter Payton Man of the Year award.
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I just think that that's it's worth mentioning, and I and I do think it even ties into whether or not you choose to bring a player back, potentially when they are just, ah, high quality character guy love seeing that well.
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And also, it also helps that he's really, really good on the football field to Yeah, that's not hurting his case to come back like his pro football focus.
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Grades are really high.
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You could tell the Giants rush defense is anchored by those three across the line, and he is an integral part.
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He's not just a side piece component to this whole, you know, defense being as great as they are.
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But it is nice to see he's doing great things off the field.
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You've got to feel like he's a guy that the Giants have to find a way to bring back.
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They do have a ton of cap space.
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I know you probably don't want to tie up so much money, but when you realize that if you sign Leonard Williams and you sign Dalvin Tomlinson that, like that strength of your team is solidified for years to come.
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And you just have the identity of that type of team for the next 3 to 5 years.
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Yeah, I really like it.
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And some people have set out on social media just like the couple of little moves you make in terms of getting out from underneath, say, a sightless contract.
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Maybe you could move off a soldier, even if you don't know.
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There's a couple of small moves that the Giants can make here just to adjust some of those numbers.
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And then they could bring back the likes of the Tomlinson 11 Williams and maybe even a Logan Ryan as well.
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So something to keep an eye on.
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But most importantly, at least in this sense, good for you, sir, for doing the right things.
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Even when people aren't watching right, that's what they always say.
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So good to hear.
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We'll keep an eye on that as the season unfolds as we turn our attention over to the game itself.
00:02:42
Obviously, let's just do the quick look at the injury updates for both the Giants and the Cardinals.
00:02:46
Coming into this, we know that Blake Martinez left the game early last week, had a back injury of some kind, turned out to be soreness.
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At least that's how they labeled it.
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He's on track to play this weekend, going to be important, that he's out there and hopefully stays out there.
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We got a nice look at Carter Coughlin.
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An expanded role.
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Even take Crowder, helping to contribute their asses well, so, you know, I feel pretty comfortable that we have other pieces there.
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This isn't the, you know.
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There could be worse matchups to be losing a Blake Martinez at some point along the way than the Arizona Cardinals.
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And at the same time, you like it.
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If this guy is Crispin out there on the field, right, Well, you know what? This is one of those times where you and I kind of disagree on something, so I was gonna give Ah, ****y caliente a hot take this morning that I honestly think, you know, seeing how this defense played in knowing that there are strength and knowing that that's where we need to hang our hat like, I think Blake Martinez being out there is equally as important as to whether or not Daniel Jones will play in the game.
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That's how important he is, knowing the type of quarterback that Kyler Murray is like.
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Look, he is transcendent.
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He is multidimensional.
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He has a rocket arm.
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He also it's Super Mobile.
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Do you want a rookie inside linebacker having to shadow? You know, Kyler Murray? Or do you want an experienced guy sitting back there that can kind of know that tells and he has been in these situations before? That's gonna be critical for the Giants.
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Yeah.
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Listen, I I don't want I don't want to minimize it.
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So But listen, we could be, uh, adversarial here on this issue.
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I think what I like is that my boy Carter Coughlin eyes that is that the totality of the defense right now just feels like it is the sum of the parts.
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Now, you look at certain key positions throughout the throughout that secondary talking about a Bell Peppers on the back end.
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What Logan Ryan has brought to this unit is Well, obviously, if you start to take away a lot of these guys, things look a lot different.
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But I do just think that that the depth, in spite of the players that we have lost their of the course this season like Lorenzo Carter.
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Ocean examine as you've just seen this nice rolled over where some of these young players have been brought into that fold that have had some success, you're early.
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It doesn't mean, though, that I wouldn't prefer, especially from the from the play, calling I One thing.
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I'll just touch on this very briefly.
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I don't think we said it last episode, Um, Carter Coughlin after Blake Martinez left and following a couple of sequences there.
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Just a little clip from last week's game, where he's there with Leonard Williams, and he has like his hand on the back of Leonard Williams shoulder pad and is going over something with him. And I'm not.
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I'm not over selling this.
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I just loved the fact that it looked like Carter Coughlin was communicating with Leonard Williams as in like, Hey, this is what I was seeing in behind you.
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This is what I'm looking to do and that that just speaks to the high the high I Q guys that the Giants brought in through the draft and saying, Boy, And now it is later in the season.
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So you have had a number of weeks to start to understand Patrick Grams defense.
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If you do have that sense of not just your role but what other players are doing on the defense.
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It's a very bright sign when you talk about needing to maybe spell Martinez for a couple of plays here and there across this game, potential against Arizona.
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Yeah, and listen, the reason.
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The reason why I forgot about your affinity and man crush on Carter Coughlin.
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Clearly, it's skewing and and gives you a biased opinion.
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All this I should have known that should have known better on me on this one.
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What I will say is, you know, the thing about Blake Martinez for me is we've had a lot of the outside linebackers kind of rotating shift, but Blake Martinez, on the inside, is so critical we are already thin at that position behind Blake Martinez, that he's that important in the middle of the field to me that he has to be ready to play in this game, Yeah, 100%.
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I can't.
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I cannot dispute the value off having that leader there who has been putting the defense in those good positions consistently throughout the year.
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Other guys, obviously, Daniel Jones, the other guy.
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That's how we do it.
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We do the injury report for the Giants.
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We label Daniel Jones as the other guy, but he's coming back from this.
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You know, the hamstring injury.
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We heard the quote from Wednesday from Joe Judge trying to protect him.
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He needs to prove that he could take care of himself out there.
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We didn't anticipate him not being ago this week.
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We know he wanted to Daniel Jones play this past game, understood why they held him out.
00:06:59
Is there? Is there any world where something happens here on Friday that we keep an eye on where we end up here in the Daniel Jones isn't gonna play in this game? Simple answer is, if Daniel Jones is a full go in practice today, he will be suiting up for the Giants.
00:07:12
If he's limited in practice, that probably puts him at like a 60 40.
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You know, right now he's trending towards playing.
00:07:19
What I will say is like if the Giants are looking at Chungking away the rest of the season in kind of these one or 23 week intervals, it kind of stole the game against Seattle.
00:07:30
With with, you know, Colt McCoy back there, there is something to be said like if we could guarantee that Daniel Jones will be fully healthy for another week.
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If we kinda let him sit in this game and we go one on one against Seattle on the road in Arizona at home, you kinda would chalk that up to a success.
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So I think there's a small window where the Giants may still be a little bit cautionary and say, Not only did we still gave in Seattle, but even with Colt McCoy, we still could potentially win the game.
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And we could guarantee that for the final remaining three games this season, Daniel Jones is more healthy.
00:08:03
I wonder if there's any world is.
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We'll move on to the Arizona side of things and just a couple of injury notes to talk about.
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I wonder if there be a world because I I understand you're thinking there.
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But I would almost say like, What's the less dangerous situation for Daniel Jones, Arizona's defense or the Cleveland Browns? And I would say it's the Cleveland Browns because they do have some dynamic players.
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You could have some potential for some, you know, for some pressure, getting back in there a little more readily the necessary from Arizona side of things.
00:08:31
Although we will see a familiar face Markus Golden for the Arizona Cardinals as well this weekend, back at his old stomping grounds.
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Ah, I if you could if you felt comfortable with Daniel Jones being out there and say 75% this week and you grab that win and you get to six and seven like then I could even turn around and say, And you know what? We're not gonna put pressure on you in the Cleveland game necessarily.
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Which, as we've talked about, I think is probably the one that right now I look as the biggest quote unquote toss up game in terms of confidence level.
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I might sit in there.
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I might even say, And then if you needed another week, I might even sit you against Baltimore and then say, Let's get you back for your reps in the final week of the season, like there's just a world where I can paint this picture based on getting one more win this weekend that it it takes away some of the onus on what's necessary for you to win the division down the stretch of the season.
00:09:20
Yeah, I think it comes down to whether he also plays today or not.
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Right.
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Like if he plays that he's going e, there's no scenario what happens.
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But to your point, like if he sits and they steal a game in Arizona and like coal, McCoy looks slightly better.
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You could you could have, Ah, a serious like situation where you could say we could arrest him as long as we need, because all we need is that Dallas game now, like, why put him up against Myles Garrett, who is an absolute monster and may injure him further? Yeah, let's let's look over the Arizona side.
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I have other thoughts there, but we'll save them for next week.
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Around the the judgment and how the fan base, the bad portion of the fan base will react.
00:10:02
Thio What happens on Sunday if Daniel Jones plays or doesn't play and how Colt McCoy looks or doesn't look at all that, there's There's a lot of nonsense that's in the back of my mind here that I think you get thrown towards the New York football Giants, depending on results on the Arizona side of it, though DNP on Thursday it was a non football related injury.
00:10:20
Neck back for DeAndre Hopkins.
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It just sounds like it's probably a treatment.
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Peace doesn't sound like he is not in line to play on Sunday, but hey, didn't participate.
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So we could at least, you know, dream a little dream.
00:10:30
If we want Thio, then you also have Isaiah Simmons neck back.
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He's questionable coming into the weekend, and then you have Drake as well with a hip.
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He was limited on Thursday.
00:10:39
There is also what we're gonna get to the Kyler Murray piece of this because he's been dealing with, though playing through a shoulder injury.
00:10:45
Nothing, nothing too tantalizing on the Arizona side of things would love to hear that it was as in so they wouldn't be playing, not healthwise, that Hopkins was dealing with a football related neck back injury and wasn't going to be possibly available heading into the weekend.
00:10:59
I mean, this is This is par for the course for DeAndre Hopkins.
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He's like of all the people in the NFL, he kind of does, like, decides and dictates his practice schedule more than anyone else in the league.
00:11:13
I think like, you know, Big Ben kind of does it a little bit, and there's other guys that maybe take a stab at it.
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But really DeAndre Hopkins.
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If he doesn't feel like practicing, he'll go a whole week without even, like, being on the field.
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And then he just shows up on Sunday and has 10 catches.
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Like, you know, kudos to him.
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E think there was a Nen tire week two weeks ago.
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He didn't practice it all, and they call it like, 15 balls.
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So I I don't see any challenges for their injury report, which means you might have both teams at full strength, which you know will be interesting Thio to see which way you lean when you have both teams kind of hitting on all cylinders.
00:11:45
Well, that's what you want, right? I mean, listen, do I take advantage when a team is dinged up or heard? Of course you dio.
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But I want full strength.
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I want the Giants to be earning the victories that they get down the stretch of the season.
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Shout out to Okay, Caylee over there on SportsCastr.
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Thank you for the jar of coins.
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I'm heading over the vending machines and looking to pick myself up a pot pie. That's right.
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I think there's Popeyes in vending machines.
00:12:06
Um, let's switch it over here now to, of course, that very popular segment.
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First off last off where? First off, Let's get into some of these matchups here for the game on Sunday.
00:12:16
We are talking about Arizona and the number one red zone scoring offense in the NFL.
00:12:22
Um, you know, they've had their ups and downs in terms of wins and losses there, 500 right now.
00:12:27
But what are some of the key players that you're maybe gonna anything players that how do you mitigate? How do you mitigate this offense here, especially when it comes to the red zone? We kind of highlighted this in the Seattle game is, well, right, needing maybe a key turnover as their surging down into our red zone there to be able to prevent that rhythm that Seattle wants to get into.
00:12:47
And likewise for Arizona, do they still feel is potent to you on paper? Does the injury and what they're trying to manage through with with Tyler Murray's arm? Is that what air them down, it all for you? Or do you still look at this as Yeah, you better be ready.
00:13:00
You better be ready in all phases.
00:13:02
I mean, what's crazy is how good the Arizona Cardinals have gotten in the red zone.
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Remember Adam in 2019, Carla Murray's rookie year? Their red zone touchdown percentage was 45%.
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And you may say, like, Okay, that's, you know, right around 50%.
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That's not too bad when you look at what they've done this year there at 75% like they score three out of four times and and when you talk about the injuries and you talk about all the things that are going on with them, what's even crazier is in the last three games, they have an 88% red zone touchdown percentage.
00:13:34
So, like even in the smaller term, they're looking even better at scoring.
00:13:38
And it's because Kyler Murray has all of the different facets to be able to make.
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Defense is scratched their head.
00:13:45
He can roll right.
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He can roll left.
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He can throw the ball through traffic on a on a bullet.
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He has the touch to fade a ball to DeAndre Hopkins.
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He can do run, pass option stuff like he has it on his ****nal and inside the 20.
00:14:00
That's what you need is that versatility where they could line up in an I formation and they could have 100 different place that they could run.
00:14:07
And one of the guys has been a little dinged up for them as well.
00:14:09
And getting back is the, uh, ever youthful Larry Fitzgerald.
00:14:14
And I don't think that that's not insignificant, because when I think about getting into the red zone, the potential weapons you can look Thio, you start to say, Well, if we can mitigate Hopkins and, you know, spend extra attention on him, OK, then you think about maybe a Christian Kirk for them, then you also think about the fact that when you look at this running game will touch on here for a second, Remember like there is true.
00:14:33
That is balance here.
00:14:34
I know there was questions about Drake early on the season, the consistency there.
00:14:37
But walk through where you have 4.
00:14:39
36 point 54.9.
00:14:42
That's Drake Murdy and then Chase Edmunds in terms of yards per charity.
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Collectively, this Arizona running game averaged 150 yards in their rushing attack.
00:14:51
Now, on the one hand, you say, boy, that's that's pretty impressive, And how are you going to mitigate it? The nice thing I think for us is that we are pretty good against the run defensively.
00:15:00
But when you talk about Red Zone success, this is what I think you're looking at, right? You're saying, Well, every time they come to the line inside of the 20 you're thinking they can run the ball.
00:15:11
Traditionally, they could get Kyler Murray out on the edge where you can then survey, look for his number one target in DeAndre Hopkins, run down those progressions and then also make the choice of guess what I need about 17 yards for a score Here, I can go ahead and scoot.
00:15:24
So you know, there's a familiar model in terms of what we saw from Russell Wilson.
00:15:28
But again, I don't use this term negatively.
00:15:33
I think Kyler Murray is a poor man's Russell Wilson right now with the caveat that he has better lives right now than Russell Wilson.
00:15:40
Right? So that's the difference about trying to control and contain him.
00:15:42
I think it was a little bit easier to do that, theoretically, against Russell Wilson.
00:15:46
Same model for the Giants.
00:15:48
But can you still execute the same way you did last week against Seattle? With all the talent that Kyler Murray has, they still do struggle surprisingly in the passing game more than you would think like they have all of the weapons.
00:15:59
You know, you mentioned DeAndre Hopkins, Kirk, Larry Fitzgerald, Andy Isabel.
00:16:03
They have really good wide receivers yet their 18th in the league in passing yards.
00:16:09
So that that's to me that you know, being in the bottom half of the league with a guy like Kyler Murray and the talent on the outside is surprising now.
00:16:16
Some of that is because they can run the ball effectively and they don't need to throw.
00:16:19
But you do see these mistakes and turnovers pop up for Kyler Murray, where he is misreading a defense.
00:16:25
Or he misreads, you know, a deep pass that he has the opportunity to connect on.
00:16:29
So for the Giants, that that is huge, knowing that our rush defense has been so strong all year, not letting them get established and being able to try to contain them is gonna force them to try to throw the ball a little bit deeper.
00:16:41
And our secondary has been playing great.
00:16:43
And that's what we're trying to do is make them a little bit more one dimensional like we did with Russell Wilson.
00:16:47
Yeah, I think that that has to be where you at least start off on it.
00:16:51
Let's go.
00:16:52
First off, last off, last off and talk about Daniel Jones.
00:16:55
Let's assume that he is going to play.
00:16:56
That's where it's trending, and I think it makes all the sense in the world to to take that leap.
00:17:01
So Daniel Jones is under center now.
00:17:04
It's multifaceted here for May.
00:17:05
Yes, the first question is, can the run game stay consistent I would make the case that what we saw against Seattle this past weekend with Colt McCoy under center and knowing that that was the strength off the Seattle defense.
00:17:17
The fact that on 16 carries Wayne Goldman went 435 yards is just such ah boost to the confidence of this offensive unit.
00:17:25
But for me, when I look at Arizona, I start to take a look at those matchups.
00:17:30
Remember a quiet game for Sterling Shepard this past week? Certainly, it's the again Colt McCoy mitigate some of those expectations, but I look in the secondary and I see Dre Kirkpatrick.
00:17:41
And then I see this other guy, a guy that has been in the league a long time that has been an upper echelon player and also has not been having a great season in Patrick Peterson.
00:17:52
I start to look at the wide receiver matchups here and say some of the things that we've hoped for, especially from, say, Darius late in some deep ball threats.
00:18:00
I think there is a world where it's Darius Slaten against Patrick Peterson, and that's a very winnable matchup for us on the outside.
00:18:07
Do you? Would you agree.
00:18:09
A couple of deep ball looks here are going to be crucial to maybe either not not winning the game, but extending when you have a lead getting just a couple of big splash plays.
00:18:21
Er, because I don't think you can hang your hat on every single week consistently.
00:18:25
Let's just be methodical and consistent and then let the defense do the work.
00:18:30
At some point, you're gonna have to hit one of these big plays, and this goes back to pre injury for Daniel Jones.
00:18:34
What we just said, we want to see them connect on a couple of these deep balls.
00:18:36
It gets you a little bit more explosive and then also backs that defense off so they can't focus solely on the running on the running attack.
00:18:43
I don't know if it's Darius Leighton that does that in this game.
00:18:46
You know Patrick Peterson has regressed a little bit this year.
00:18:50
Whether or not age is catching up to him or it's just in off year, you know, that's for another time.
00:18:55
But Darius Layton has just kind of kind of moved back and taking a back seat to how this offense is going there are run first offense.
00:19:04
They aren't really stretching the field vertically anymore, and it's hurting him as a result.
00:19:09
You know, he had one catch this game.
00:19:11
He went Katulis and another game in the last couple of weeks.
00:19:14
He just hasn't been as consistent out there.
00:19:16
You know, I look at a guy like Sterling Shepard, as you mentioned before.
00:19:19
I see him having some line similar to seven or eight catches for 68 yards, right? Like Jane Mover? Yeah, like, let's let's get him in that third and four, he picks up six.
00:19:30
Let's get a you know, 2nd and 70 picks up nine.
00:19:32
Like I looked at Sterling Shepard being the guy that methodically moves the ball down the field.
00:19:36
What? I really think we're going to see another dose off is more Wayne Gallman Mawr, our pos.
00:19:43
But with Daniel Jones, if he is out there, uh, you know, you look at what Seattle was.
00:19:48
They were the third best rushing defense in the league, the Arizona Cardinals, around 21st, like they're not a good rushing defense.
00:19:55
So if we hung our hat against Seattle, saying that was the way we were gonna win and they're really good at it.
00:20:00
Like, imagine how much more we're gonna feed weighing Goldman when we're playing a poor run defense.
00:20:04
Yeah, no, 101 100%.
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And it probably does.
00:20:07
It's probably check that box in that way.
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I remember we talked about it last week, right? Like I I It's almost ironic that I hung my hat saying, We gotta run and it was right.
00:20:15
I felt good about it, right? Run the ball.
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And now this week, in a better matchup, I'm saying Maybe should go the other way.
00:20:19
I think it's just that when you're so when you're Seattle, you tryto hang your hat on. We're good at it.
00:20:26
The front, you know, our our standard package needs to take care of the run game for Arizona.
00:20:31
At least maybe early on, you're gonna They're gonna say what? We're not good at run defense.
00:20:35
Let's flood this thing.
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Darius Layton hasn't been having big games.
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We can kind of try to mitigate that.
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So maybe there's those little Pops early on.
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Three.
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Other thing that I will say to on talking too pessimistic.
00:20:45
Mike was Well, I hate I hate to do it on.
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I hope it works out.
00:20:50
But this this stretch run for the Giants.
00:20:52
We tried that.
00:20:53
We tried to pick out who is the most crucial piece for the Giants that have success.
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And maybe it's beyond Wayne Goldman.
00:20:58
Just the running game over.
00:20:59
All right, Who do you think? What would be the perfect name to say as the most crucial piece to the stretch run and going to the playoffs? Ah, yes.
00:21:08
You know, we didn't even talk about this pre show, but it has to be Evan Ingram.
00:21:12
It has to be it.
00:21:13
Yeah, because again, because you talk about Darius Layton comes and goes, right.
00:21:18
And he's a second year guy.
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Sterling Shepard.
00:21:21
And what we were getting into, Mike and I were was about You want to get Shepherd back into his traditional role in the slot, and you certainly do.
00:21:28
But the issue right now is you don't have the wealth of weapons in the wide receiving corps to be able to put him into the slot.
00:21:34
Because arguably this what we went through Arguably, most teams probably feel that they have a confidence in their slot corner over.
00:21:44
Maybe they're number two corner, right, like you can have a really good slot corner, a really elite number one corner and then say a number two corner.
00:21:51
It's a mixed bag, right? We'll see what we can do there.
00:21:53
And by the way, put it on the giant side.
00:21:55
Darnay Holmes happens to be one of the highest rated cornerbacks out of the rookie class this season.
00:21:59
Will tip of the cap there? Uh, but But that's what you want to try to accomplish.
00:22:03
Right is you want him back in that slot, but you can't.
00:22:05
And so now traditionally, you say, Keep him on the outside and then it's Evan Ingram who can flex out there and start to get the most favorable matchups.
00:22:13
It's gonna come down to him and being concerned, being consistent.
00:22:16
I'm sorry I couldn't get through it being consistent.
00:22:18
Revenue anger.
00:22:19
Well, there's another wrinkle to this whole thing.
00:22:21
Is that with the Giants? Well, what the Giants running the ball the way that they are at him, they're not really doing very many three wide receiver sets to begin with, right? So they went very heavy in the tight end packages last week, and that was what's called a coin, but they understand where they're They're butter is getting bread right now.
00:22:39
They e mean butter gets bread, bread gets butter, Tomato, tomato.
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It's all seemed to me.
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It is delicious.
00:22:46
But to that point you have Sterling Shepard and Golden Tate actually kind of switching back and forth a little bit in the two wide receiver sets because as you saw Darius Lee and played 97% of the snaps on the outside, they know that he's the one outside guy that they have to keep out there.
00:23:02
But everything else is interchangeable so to your point, because Golden Tate and Strong Shepherd are gonna be sharing some of some of the responsibilities when we go big in the jumbo jumbo lineups with Penny in there with, uh, Caden Smith, Evan and grow multiple tight end sets, Evan Engram is gonna be the guy that's gonna be out there more often than not, he is going to stay at that 70% snap count.
00:23:25
He is going to be the one vertical threat that you think that that could get down the field to make place.
00:23:30
But as you pointed out, the number one thing with him is consistency.
00:23:34
It's like he's crazy, athletic.
00:23:36
He could do things in the field that Onley Darren Waller, Kelsey and Kittel could do right, like that's the type of athleticism he has.
00:23:43
But then he fumbles the ball.
00:23:44
He drops passes.
00:23:45
He doesn't know where that down and distances or he has a big holding penalty.
00:23:49
It's like if we could just eliminate those pieces.
00:23:52
He has the ability to be a top five tight end and not just be a top five talent.
00:23:57
Tight end.
00:23:58
Yeah, so you know, I don't want to say that That's going to be the you know there's that one play with Toews Jersey? Yeah, a jersey.
00:24:07
Start waving that.
00:24:08
Start waving that towel out there for Evan Evan Ingram for Pro Bowl selections here.
00:24:12
But but it does.
00:24:13
It does.
00:24:14
It just is going to be very unique and interesting to see how they use them and then, by the way, like I know that the name doesn't get mentioned a lot in terms of receiving.
00:24:21
But when you're running those jumbo sets, guys, a guy like Kaden Smith does become another.
00:24:25
As you said, Wrinkle right where, Yes, your attention is going to go to a lot of different places, and I really I'm not talking about specifically in the Hey, it's a third and five kind of thing and you run this jumbo set in.
00:24:35
Kate Smith leaks out like all those little plays or what become crucial for the Giants.
00:24:40
Not just in this game, but down the stretch overall, where you're saying, Hey, when the opportunity comes, we need to.
00:24:45
We need to make that little play here.
00:24:47
Not unlike last week, right to third down plays to third down throws for Colt McCoy.
00:24:51
One of them was, Ah, Balto Evan Ingram, where he got his hands download to grab it and threw his body up field to get that first down.
00:24:58
So if you can check those boxes in a given game, that really that that moves the needle and I don't expect it to be necessarily the 17 12 10 points given up defensively for New York against Seattle.
00:25:08
But that little move right there is a difference between winning or losing right or giving an extra or easier opportunity back to the opposing offense.
00:25:15
The last thing we just throw out here before we start to wrap this up here is when we look at the receiving numbers just to be clear here.
00:25:22
Here's the problem.
00:25:23
48 catches for 500 yards, just the one touchdown this year for Evan Ingram.
00:25:27
But you know that that's That's a combination of a lot of things, including the play of Daniel Jones in the offensive line.
00:25:32
Here's my big issue.
00:25:33
84 targets for Evan Anger.
00:25:37
He's almost double right.
00:25:38
He's almost doubled up targets in terms of reception.
00:25:41
So you're talking about for every two balls you throw him.
00:25:44
He's bringing in one, and there's a lot of things that go into that is on target off target, etcetera.
00:25:48
But that is not the ratio that you want, especially out of what you would argue is your most dangerous offensive weapon.
00:25:56
You want your most dangerous? You wanted to be like nuke, right? DeAndre Hopkins esque of Hey, we rely on you for everything, and we hope other guys can step up instead.
00:26:04
The Giants are saying our best weapon is also the one where we go. Uh huh.
00:26:08
I love it at him.
00:26:10
You couldn't resist.
00:26:12
You just couldn't resist.
00:26:13
Wait, wait wait.
00:26:14
You said everything, Graham.
00:26:16
It's so important you talk about like how we need him.
00:26:19
And then all of a sudden we start talking about it.
00:26:21
And you're like, Don't forget Caden Smith.
00:26:24
You don't forget Kate and Smith.
00:26:25
He is the guy we're talking about.
00:26:26
How important Evan Ingram is.
00:26:27
You you mentioned Caden Smith, and then you talk about how Evan Ingram's getting all these targets and he's not finalizing and finishing off the deal.
00:26:35
I just I just know that your love for every Ingram will always come to the forefront in any discussion that we have.
00:26:40
Well, let's be clear here to the reason why do you bring up kids in Smith? And I was gonna take my lumps, uh, is the is because that Darius Slaten hasn't been able to make a couple of big plays, right? You don't Golden Tate has shown up a couple of times, as has you know, Sterling Shepard on occasion have been that chain mover.
00:26:58
But the reality is you're gonna need these little place from different people.
00:27:03
And I would argue that, like Kaden Smith on these little tiny sample sizes has showed up been like, oh, you need that little catch? Yeah, I'll move this ball 7 to 12 yards down the field two or three times a game, potentially, so I don't want to take it away from Evan angry because just a rabbit out just around ourselves out here.
00:27:19
Evan Ingram in these last hand full of games s even even last week, right with Global Coiner center again hit that mark perfectly.
00:27:26
Four catches on eight targets for 32 yards.
00:27:28
Aunt also had the one.
00:27:29
Golf his hands Colt McCoy's fault and let let's the interception that week prior, though, against the Bangles, 66 catches on nine targets for 1 29.
00:27:37
Because you have to be that guy.
00:27:38
Maybe not, But you have to kind of split this difference here because it only takes going back to the Tampa Bay in Washington games where again exact stat lines.
00:27:46
Five catches in both games, 10 targets in both games.
00:27:49
I just I just want to see him grab one more ball out of every target share that he gets each week, and all of a sudden this line turns to a 60 plus receiving year already on that same number of targets, etcetera.
00:28:00
So we won't won't belabor it.
00:28:02
Let's go ahead and shift our gears here, as we always say to that fonds little send off, that is at the end of the day.
00:28:10
At the end of the day, Andy, this is going to be a key matchup, not just for the Giants but for the Cardinals as well.
00:28:16
There's six and six.
00:28:17
Their playoff picture is on the line this week as well.
00:28:20
So you're gonna get the best version of both teams, I believe.
00:28:22
What is your key matchup? We could go across the board.
00:28:24
You pick, you know, dealer's choice here.
00:28:26
Wide receivers, halfbacks and then, of course, lines on both sides of the ball, the defense and offensive fronts.
00:28:32
Where does the crucial matchup exist for you in this game? And how do you see it shaking out? I'm gonna throw a wild card at you, Adam Wildcard.
00:28:42
Sorry, Call it out.
00:28:43
The big key matchup in this game is special teams.
00:28:50
It is not any of the wide receivers.
00:28:51
It's not the linebackers.
00:28:52
It's not who's shadowing Colin Murray.
00:28:54
It's special teams, and the reason why I say that it's simple.
00:28:57
The Arizona Cardinals are ranked number one in special teams play this year.
00:29:01
They are the number one ranked special teams play team.
00:29:04
And as you saw in Cincinnati, the Giants have been susceptible to big plays on special teams.
00:29:10
What's even crazier is Graham Gano has been the best kicker in the league so far this year.
00:29:16
What, and to add on top of that Joe Judge, is a special teams coach.
00:29:20
It is what got him hired in the first place.
00:29:23
So to me, I really do think that there special teams is so good and they give themselves really good field position and they do all the right things that that could be.
00:29:32
The big difference in this game is how do we match up on field position Kickoffs.
00:29:36
How his punt returns look, Are we making turnovers like what is happening there? Yeah, the specifics.
00:29:41
We talk about the Gunners getting down the field when we're sending the ball away right and making sure that you just mitigate because we also have a nice punter in Riley Dixon that has that big leg can really change the field position even when you're inside your own 30 or 35 you can get that ball down inside their 20 but it comes down to coverage and execution there.
00:30:00
So that that that that that that's a very noteworthy matchup to bring in, especially because the Giants have struggled a little bit in recent weeks, have had some blunders there.
00:30:08
Blocks, punk last week, and even the coverage downfield at times has been a little bit shaky, so we don't want allow things to turn on one play, one return, um, for myself, I'll say as we get out the door, I don't want to take away the battle.
00:30:24
That will be Hopkins right? But I think the Giants have proven that collectively, you put Bradbury on him, and then you Sprinkle in some extra help here and there.
00:30:34
I really look at it the same way that going to that game against Russell Wilson, this is about the defensive front.
00:30:39
It's about the fact that we're that we're getting pressure in a non traditional way without true edge rushers.
00:30:46
Right it to me, it's going to be about Leonard Williams, Dexter Lawrence and Dalvin Tomlinson.
00:30:50
You gotta You gotta do multiple things.
00:30:52
You're both stuffing the run, shutting that element down of their offense and then also getting that consistent wave of pressure on Kyler Murray that if he wants to start to scramble now, you gotta rely on Blake Martinez on Carter Coughlin Auntie Crowder on all the other linebackers to come up because when you saw really well last week against Russell, Wilson was even though 2.
00:31:12
5 sacks for Leonard Williams, when he almost got home, it forced into shuffle his feet.
00:31:17
Russell Wilson.
00:31:18
And then the next guy was there to grab him, right? So you need to have the staggered approaches from Patrick Graham and how you make it more difficult for Kyler Murray to say it's breaking down.
00:31:27
I can just go ahead and use my legs right? The more that you can buy them to the pocket, contain him a little bit.
00:31:32
There is going to force him to take more looks downfield, try to find those wide receivers, and then we trickle down in the order.
00:31:38
Yeah, I'm playing better in the secondary.
00:31:40
Certainly we like we're seeing from homes as he's worked his way through his rookie season as well.
00:31:43
So all these matchups, we're going to be key I I just think not unlike Seattle.
00:31:49
Don't let them explode on you, right? Mitigate the big place, keep everything in front of you and control it.
00:31:54
And then it's just relying consistency.
00:31:57
That's one of the things that we can say that often still needs to grow.
00:32:00
But we've been a consistent team in all three phases and gotten progressively better As the season has gone on.
00:32:05
That's what we need to see more of on Sunday.
00:32:07
Yeah, and to your point, that front three of the New York Giants against Kyler Murray.
00:32:12
The biggest thing for the Giants is to keep him in the pocket.
00:32:16
You have to keep Kyler Murray in the pocket, make him throw and make him beat you.
00:32:20
He's a great thrower of the football.
00:32:22
But of all the options that you have in terms of how Kyler Murray can beat you, I will take that one over broken plays, getting him out in space, one on one against Take Crowder like that's not what I want at all, because that's not a good position for the Giants to be in.
00:32:36
The longer he stays in the pocket, the better chance there is of Leonard Williams or someone up front being ableto take Kyler Murray down because he is a smaller guy.
00:32:43
If you get a hand on him, you can pull him to the ground and really make him beat you from inside that spot as opposed to these broken plays where anything can happen.
00:32:51
Yep, 100% man.
00:32:53
So as we as we say, you could always follows using hashtag o g p on SportsCastr at one giant podcast over on Twitter and social media in general.
00:33:01
A quick shout out to everybody like Okay, Caylee And then also you me, d m v, but specifically Laurence Owen, NFL, who does great film breakdown for the NFL at large here he came right in there and said, Keeping Kyler Murray boxed in right, worrying about locking up DeAndre Hopkins.
00:33:17
And, of course, he threw out there on the defensive side, having peppers involved in that blitz package.
00:33:21
That's where those extra players that could have like a Logan ride and maybe even Xavier McKinney helps you to be able to make those adjustments on the fly and give a lot of different looks like Kyler Murray.
00:33:31
Be sure to check in with us as I knocked the table here on social media I G Live will be giving our picks on Sunday ahead of the one oclock start early game back on track until next time until that time, as anti Moskowitz wants needs and demands that, you know, as always, let's go big blue.
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SportsCastr.
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As always, where I am at, um, are breaking over There is the healthy, wealthy and wise Mr Andrew Mack.
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What's How are you, sir? I'm good.
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I'm healthy.
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But it was up with a 4 30 Wake up call.
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Dog scratching to go out.
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Not not the start of the day.
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You want on a Friday, but I am here for the listeners.
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That's right as well.
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You should be.
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We don't We don't back down.
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We, uh What is it, Jack? Reacher never back down.
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I thought you were talking Tom Petty there.
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I thought I thought you were going that everything.
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But I mean, you go, Jack Reacher, if you want.
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Here's the problem, though.
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Because I love Tom Petty is one of my favorite musicians of all time.
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So really, I enjoyed the Jack Reacher line, and now I feel like a real a real jerk.
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Yeah.
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I won't back down, uh, Tom Petty's Heartbreakers.
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It is, of course, the Friday edition.
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So we're gonna dive in on the matchup coming up against the Arizona Cardinals this weekend.
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We know, as we talked about on Wednesday, everybody knows how much is on the line for the Giants on a week to week basis before we get into it.
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The quick tip of the hat to one of the Giants players that is up for a contract this offseason but has also been doing the right things both on and off the field.
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That's Dalvin Tomlinson.
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He is the Giants nomination for the Walter Payton Man of the Year award.
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I just think that that's it's worth mentioning, and I and I do think it even ties into whether or not you choose to bring a player back, potentially when they are just, ah, high quality character guy love seeing that well.
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And also, it also helps that he's really, really good on the football field to Yeah, that's not hurting his case to come back like his pro football focus.
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Grades are really high.
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You could tell the Giants rush defense is anchored by those three across the line, and he is an integral part.
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He's not just a side piece component to this whole, you know, defense being as great as they are.
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But it is nice to see he's doing great things off the field.
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You've got to feel like he's a guy that the Giants have to find a way to bring back.
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They do have a ton of cap space.
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I know you probably don't want to tie up so much money, but when you realize that if you sign Leonard Williams and you sign Dalvin Tomlinson that, like that strength of your team is solidified for years to come.
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And you just have the identity of that type of team for the next 3 to 5 years.
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Yeah, I really like it.
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And some people have set out on social media just like the couple of little moves you make in terms of getting out from underneath, say, a sightless contract.
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Maybe you could move off a soldier, even if you don't know.
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There's a couple of small moves that the Giants can make here just to adjust some of those numbers.
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And then they could bring back the likes of the Tomlinson 11 Williams and maybe even a Logan Ryan as well.
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So something to keep an eye on.
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But most importantly, at least in this sense, good for you, sir, for doing the right things.
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Even when people aren't watching right, that's what they always say.
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So good to hear.
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We'll keep an eye on that as the season unfolds as we turn our attention over to the game itself.
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Obviously, let's just do the quick look at the injury updates for both the Giants and the Cardinals.
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Coming into this, we know that Blake Martinez left the game early last week, had a back injury of some kind, turned out to be soreness.
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At least that's how they labeled it.
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He's on track to play this weekend, going to be important, that he's out there and hopefully stays out there.
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We got a nice look at Carter Coughlin.
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An expanded role.
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Even take Crowder, helping to contribute their asses well, so, you know, I feel pretty comfortable that we have other pieces there.
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This isn't the, you know.
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There could be worse matchups to be losing a Blake Martinez at some point along the way than the Arizona Cardinals.
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And at the same time, you like it.
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If this guy is Crispin out there on the field, right, Well, you know what? This is one of those times where you and I kind of disagree on something, so I was gonna give Ah, ****y caliente a hot take this morning that I honestly think, you know, seeing how this defense played in knowing that there are strength and knowing that that's where we need to hang our hat like, I think Blake Martinez being out there is equally as important as to whether or not Daniel Jones will play in the game.
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That's how important he is, knowing the type of quarterback that Kyler Murray is like.
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Look, he is transcendent.
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He is multidimensional.
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He has a rocket arm.
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He also it's Super Mobile.
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Do you want a rookie inside linebacker having to shadow? You know, Kyler Murray? Or do you want an experienced guy sitting back there that can kind of know that tells and he has been in these situations before? That's gonna be critical for the Giants.
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Yeah.
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Listen, I I don't want I don't want to minimize it.
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So But listen, we could be, uh, adversarial here on this issue.
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I think what I like is that my boy Carter Coughlin eyes that is that the totality of the defense right now just feels like it is the sum of the parts.
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Now, you look at certain key positions throughout the throughout that secondary talking about a Bell Peppers on the back end.
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What Logan Ryan has brought to this unit is Well, obviously, if you start to take away a lot of these guys, things look a lot different.
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But I do just think that that the depth, in spite of the players that we have lost their of the course this season like Lorenzo Carter.
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Ocean examine as you've just seen this nice rolled over where some of these young players have been brought into that fold that have had some success, you're early.
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It doesn't mean, though, that I wouldn't prefer, especially from the from the play, calling I One thing.
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I'll just touch on this very briefly.
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I don't think we said it last episode, Um, Carter Coughlin after Blake Martinez left and following a couple of sequences there.
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Just a little clip from last week's game, where he's there with Leonard Williams, and he has like his hand on the back of Leonard Williams shoulder pad and is going over something with him. And I'm not.
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I'm not over selling this.
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I just loved the fact that it looked like Carter Coughlin was communicating with Leonard Williams as in like, Hey, this is what I was seeing in behind you.
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This is what I'm looking to do and that that just speaks to the high the high I Q guys that the Giants brought in through the draft and saying, Boy, And now it is later in the season.
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So you have had a number of weeks to start to understand Patrick Grams defense.
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If you do have that sense of not just your role but what other players are doing on the defense.
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It's a very bright sign when you talk about needing to maybe spell Martinez for a couple of plays here and there across this game, potential against Arizona.
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Yeah, and listen, the reason.
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The reason why I forgot about your affinity and man crush on Carter Coughlin.
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Clearly, it's skewing and and gives you a biased opinion.
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All this I should have known that should have known better on me on this one.
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What I will say is, you know, the thing about Blake Martinez for me is we've had a lot of the outside linebackers kind of rotating shift, but Blake Martinez, on the inside, is so critical we are already thin at that position behind Blake Martinez, that he's that important in the middle of the field to me that he has to be ready to play in this game, Yeah, 100%.
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I can't.
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I cannot dispute the value off having that leader there who has been putting the defense in those good positions consistently throughout the year.
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Other guys, obviously, Daniel Jones, the other guy.
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That's how we do it.
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We do the injury report for the Giants.
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We label Daniel Jones as the other guy, but he's coming back from this.
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You know, the hamstring injury.
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We heard the quote from Wednesday from Joe Judge trying to protect him.
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He needs to prove that he could take care of himself out there.
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We didn't anticipate him not being ago this week.
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We know he wanted to Daniel Jones play this past game, understood why they held him out.
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Is there? Is there any world where something happens here on Friday that we keep an eye on where we end up here in the Daniel Jones isn't gonna play in this game? Simple answer is, if Daniel Jones is a full go in practice today, he will be suiting up for the Giants.
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If he's limited in practice, that probably puts him at like a 60 40.
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You know, right now he's trending towards playing.
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What I will say is like if the Giants are looking at Chungking away the rest of the season in kind of these one or 23 week intervals, it kind of stole the game against Seattle.
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With with, you know, Colt McCoy back there, there is something to be said like if we could guarantee that Daniel Jones will be fully healthy for another week.
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If we kinda let him sit in this game and we go one on one against Seattle on the road in Arizona at home, you kinda would chalk that up to a success.
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So I think there's a small window where the Giants may still be a little bit cautionary and say, Not only did we still gave in Seattle, but even with Colt McCoy, we still could potentially win the game.
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And we could guarantee that for the final remaining three games this season, Daniel Jones is more healthy.
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I wonder if there's any world is.
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We'll move on to the Arizona side of things and just a couple of injury notes to talk about.
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I wonder if there be a world because I I understand you're thinking there.
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But I would almost say like, What's the less dangerous situation for Daniel Jones, Arizona's defense or the Cleveland Browns? And I would say it's the Cleveland Browns because they do have some dynamic players.
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You could have some potential for some, you know, for some pressure, getting back in there a little more readily the necessary from Arizona side of things.
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Although we will see a familiar face Markus Golden for the Arizona Cardinals as well this weekend, back at his old stomping grounds.
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Ah, I if you could if you felt comfortable with Daniel Jones being out there and say 75% this week and you grab that win and you get to six and seven like then I could even turn around and say, And you know what? We're not gonna put pressure on you in the Cleveland game necessarily.
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Which, as we've talked about, I think is probably the one that right now I look as the biggest quote unquote toss up game in terms of confidence level.
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I might sit in there.
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I might even say, And then if you needed another week, I might even sit you against Baltimore and then say, Let's get you back for your reps in the final week of the season, like there's just a world where I can paint this picture based on getting one more win this weekend that it it takes away some of the onus on what's necessary for you to win the division down the stretch of the season.
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Yeah, I think it comes down to whether he also plays today or not.
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Right.
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Like if he plays that he's going e, there's no scenario what happens.
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But to your point, like if he sits and they steal a game in Arizona and like coal, McCoy looks slightly better.
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You could you could have, Ah, a serious like situation where you could say we could arrest him as long as we need, because all we need is that Dallas game now, like, why put him up against Myles Garrett, who is an absolute monster and may injure him further? Yeah, let's let's look over the Arizona side.
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I have other thoughts there, but we'll save them for next week.
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Around the the judgment and how the fan base, the bad portion of the fan base will react.
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Thio What happens on Sunday if Daniel Jones plays or doesn't play and how Colt McCoy looks or doesn't look at all that, there's There's a lot of nonsense that's in the back of my mind here that I think you get thrown towards the New York football Giants, depending on results on the Arizona side of it, though DNP on Thursday it was a non football related injury.
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Neck back for DeAndre Hopkins.
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It just sounds like it's probably a treatment.
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Peace doesn't sound like he is not in line to play on Sunday, but hey, didn't participate.
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So we could at least, you know, dream a little dream.
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If we want Thio, then you also have Isaiah Simmons neck back.
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He's questionable coming into the weekend, and then you have Drake as well with a hip.
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He was limited on Thursday.
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There is also what we're gonna get to the Kyler Murray piece of this because he's been dealing with, though playing through a shoulder injury.
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Nothing, nothing too tantalizing on the Arizona side of things would love to hear that it was as in so they wouldn't be playing, not healthwise, that Hopkins was dealing with a football related neck back injury and wasn't going to be possibly available heading into the weekend.
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I mean, this is This is par for the course for DeAndre Hopkins.
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He's like of all the people in the NFL, he kind of does, like, decides and dictates his practice schedule more than anyone else in the league.
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I think like, you know, Big Ben kind of does it a little bit, and there's other guys that maybe take a stab at it.
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But really DeAndre Hopkins.
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If he doesn't feel like practicing, he'll go a whole week without even, like, being on the field.
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And then he just shows up on Sunday and has 10 catches.
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Like, you know, kudos to him.
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E think there was a Nen tire week two weeks ago.
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He didn't practice it all, and they call it like, 15 balls.
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So I I don't see any challenges for their injury report, which means you might have both teams at full strength, which you know will be interesting Thio to see which way you lean when you have both teams kind of hitting on all cylinders.
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Well, that's what you want, right? I mean, listen, do I take advantage when a team is dinged up or heard? Of course you dio.
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But I want full strength.
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I want the Giants to be earning the victories that they get down the stretch of the season.
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Shout out to Okay, Caylee over there on SportsCastr.
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Thank you for the jar of coins.
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I'm heading over the vending machines and looking to pick myself up a pot pie. That's right.
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I think there's Popeyes in vending machines.
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Um, let's switch it over here now to, of course, that very popular segment.
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First off last off where? First off, Let's get into some of these matchups here for the game on Sunday.
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We are talking about Arizona and the number one red zone scoring offense in the NFL.
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Um, you know, they've had their ups and downs in terms of wins and losses there, 500 right now.
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But what are some of the key players that you're maybe gonna anything players that how do you mitigate? How do you mitigate this offense here, especially when it comes to the red zone? We kind of highlighted this in the Seattle game is, well, right, needing maybe a key turnover as their surging down into our red zone there to be able to prevent that rhythm that Seattle wants to get into.
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And likewise for Arizona, do they still feel is potent to you on paper? Does the injury and what they're trying to manage through with with Tyler Murray's arm? Is that what air them down, it all for you? Or do you still look at this as Yeah, you better be ready.
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You better be ready in all phases.
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I mean, what's crazy is how good the Arizona Cardinals have gotten in the red zone.
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Remember Adam in 2019, Carla Murray's rookie year? Their red zone touchdown percentage was 45%.
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And you may say, like, Okay, that's, you know, right around 50%.
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That's not too bad when you look at what they've done this year there at 75% like they score three out of four times and and when you talk about the injuries and you talk about all the things that are going on with them, what's even crazier is in the last three games, they have an 88% red zone touchdown percentage.
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So, like even in the smaller term, they're looking even better at scoring.
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And it's because Kyler Murray has all of the different facets to be able to make.
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Defense is scratched their head.
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He can roll right.
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He can roll left.
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He can throw the ball through traffic on a on a bullet.
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He has the touch to fade a ball to DeAndre Hopkins.
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He can do run, pass option stuff like he has it on his ****nal and inside the 20.
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That's what you need is that versatility where they could line up in an I formation and they could have 100 different place that they could run.
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And one of the guys has been a little dinged up for them as well.
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And getting back is the, uh, ever youthful Larry Fitzgerald.
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And I don't think that that's not insignificant, because when I think about getting into the red zone, the potential weapons you can look Thio, you start to say, Well, if we can mitigate Hopkins and, you know, spend extra attention on him, OK, then you think about maybe a Christian Kirk for them, then you also think about the fact that when you look at this running game will touch on here for a second, Remember like there is true.
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That is balance here.
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I know there was questions about Drake early on the season, the consistency there.
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But walk through where you have 4.
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36 point 54.9.
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That's Drake Murdy and then Chase Edmunds in terms of yards per charity.
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Collectively, this Arizona running game averaged 150 yards in their rushing attack.
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Now, on the one hand, you say, boy, that's that's pretty impressive, And how are you going to mitigate it? The nice thing I think for us is that we are pretty good against the run defensively.
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But when you talk about Red Zone success, this is what I think you're looking at, right? You're saying, Well, every time they come to the line inside of the 20 you're thinking they can run the ball.
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Traditionally, they could get Kyler Murray out on the edge where you can then survey, look for his number one target in DeAndre Hopkins, run down those progressions and then also make the choice of guess what I need about 17 yards for a score Here, I can go ahead and scoot.
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So you know, there's a familiar model in terms of what we saw from Russell Wilson.
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But again, I don't use this term negatively.
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I think Kyler Murray is a poor man's Russell Wilson right now with the caveat that he has better lives right now than Russell Wilson.
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Right? So that's the difference about trying to control and contain him.
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I think it was a little bit easier to do that, theoretically, against Russell Wilson.
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Same model for the Giants.
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But can you still execute the same way you did last week against Seattle? With all the talent that Kyler Murray has, they still do struggle surprisingly in the passing game more than you would think like they have all of the weapons.
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You know, you mentioned DeAndre Hopkins, Kirk, Larry Fitzgerald, Andy Isabel.
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They have really good wide receivers yet their 18th in the league in passing yards.
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So that that's to me that you know, being in the bottom half of the league with a guy like Kyler Murray and the talent on the outside is surprising now.
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Some of that is because they can run the ball effectively and they don't need to throw.
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But you do see these mistakes and turnovers pop up for Kyler Murray, where he is misreading a defense.
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Or he misreads, you know, a deep pass that he has the opportunity to connect on.
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So for the Giants, that that is huge, knowing that our rush defense has been so strong all year, not letting them get established and being able to try to contain them is gonna force them to try to throw the ball a little bit deeper.
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And our secondary has been playing great.
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And that's what we're trying to do is make them a little bit more one dimensional like we did with Russell Wilson.
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Yeah, I think that that has to be where you at least start off on it.
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Let's go.
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First off, last off, last off and talk about Daniel Jones.
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Let's assume that he is going to play.
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That's where it's trending, and I think it makes all the sense in the world to to take that leap.
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So Daniel Jones is under center now.
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It's multifaceted here for May.
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Yes, the first question is, can the run game stay consistent I would make the case that what we saw against Seattle this past weekend with Colt McCoy under center and knowing that that was the strength off the Seattle defense.
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The fact that on 16 carries Wayne Goldman went 435 yards is just such ah boost to the confidence of this offensive unit.
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But for me, when I look at Arizona, I start to take a look at those matchups.
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Remember a quiet game for Sterling Shepard this past week? Certainly, it's the again Colt McCoy mitigate some of those expectations, but I look in the secondary and I see Dre Kirkpatrick.
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And then I see this other guy, a guy that has been in the league a long time that has been an upper echelon player and also has not been having a great season in Patrick Peterson.
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I start to look at the wide receiver matchups here and say some of the things that we've hoped for, especially from, say, Darius late in some deep ball threats.
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I think there is a world where it's Darius Slaten against Patrick Peterson, and that's a very winnable matchup for us on the outside.
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Do you? Would you agree.
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A couple of deep ball looks here are going to be crucial to maybe either not not winning the game, but extending when you have a lead getting just a couple of big splash plays.
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Er, because I don't think you can hang your hat on every single week consistently.
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Let's just be methodical and consistent and then let the defense do the work.
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At some point, you're gonna have to hit one of these big plays, and this goes back to pre injury for Daniel Jones.
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What we just said, we want to see them connect on a couple of these deep balls.
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It gets you a little bit more explosive and then also backs that defense off so they can't focus solely on the running on the running attack.
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I don't know if it's Darius Leighton that does that in this game.
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You know Patrick Peterson has regressed a little bit this year.
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Whether or not age is catching up to him or it's just in off year, you know, that's for another time.
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But Darius Layton has just kind of kind of moved back and taking a back seat to how this offense is going there are run first offense.
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They aren't really stretching the field vertically anymore, and it's hurting him as a result.
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You know, he had one catch this game.
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He went Katulis and another game in the last couple of weeks.
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He just hasn't been as consistent out there.
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You know, I look at a guy like Sterling Shepard, as you mentioned before.
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I see him having some line similar to seven or eight catches for 68 yards, right? Like Jane Mover? Yeah, like, let's let's get him in that third and four, he picks up six.
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Let's get a you know, 2nd and 70 picks up nine.
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Like I looked at Sterling Shepard being the guy that methodically moves the ball down the field.
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What? I really think we're going to see another dose off is more Wayne Gallman Mawr, our pos.
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But with Daniel Jones, if he is out there, uh, you know, you look at what Seattle was.
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They were the third best rushing defense in the league, the Arizona Cardinals, around 21st, like they're not a good rushing defense.
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So if we hung our hat against Seattle, saying that was the way we were gonna win and they're really good at it.
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Like, imagine how much more we're gonna feed weighing Goldman when we're playing a poor run defense.
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Yeah, no, 101 100%.
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And it probably does.
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It's probably check that box in that way.
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I remember we talked about it last week, right? Like I I It's almost ironic that I hung my hat saying, We gotta run and it was right.
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I felt good about it, right? Run the ball.
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And now this week, in a better matchup, I'm saying Maybe should go the other way.
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I think it's just that when you're so when you're Seattle, you tryto hang your hat on. We're good at it.
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The front, you know, our our standard package needs to take care of the run game for Arizona.
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At least maybe early on, you're gonna They're gonna say what? We're not good at run defense.
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Let's flood this thing.
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Darius Layton hasn't been having big games.
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We can kind of try to mitigate that.
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So maybe there's those little Pops early on.
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Three.
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Other thing that I will say to on talking too pessimistic.
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Mike was Well, I hate I hate to do it on.
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I hope it works out.
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But this this stretch run for the Giants.
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We tried that.
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We tried to pick out who is the most crucial piece for the Giants that have success.
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And maybe it's beyond Wayne Goldman.
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Just the running game over.
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All right, Who do you think? What would be the perfect name to say as the most crucial piece to the stretch run and going to the playoffs? Ah, yes.
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You know, we didn't even talk about this pre show, but it has to be Evan Ingram.
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It has to be it.
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Yeah, because again, because you talk about Darius Layton comes and goes, right.
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And he's a second year guy.
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Sterling Shepard.
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And what we were getting into, Mike and I were was about You want to get Shepherd back into his traditional role in the slot, and you certainly do.
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But the issue right now is you don't have the wealth of weapons in the wide receiving corps to be able to put him into the slot.
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Because arguably this what we went through Arguably, most teams probably feel that they have a confidence in their slot corner over.
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Maybe they're number two corner, right, like you can have a really good slot corner, a really elite number one corner and then say a number two corner.
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It's a mixed bag, right? We'll see what we can do there.
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And by the way, put it on the giant side.
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Darnay Holmes happens to be one of the highest rated cornerbacks out of the rookie class this season.
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Will tip of the cap there? Uh, but But that's what you want to try to accomplish.
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Right is you want him back in that slot, but you can't.
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And so now traditionally, you say, Keep him on the outside and then it's Evan Ingram who can flex out there and start to get the most favorable matchups.
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It's gonna come down to him and being concerned, being consistent.
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I'm sorry I couldn't get through it being consistent.
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Revenue anger.
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Well, there's another wrinkle to this whole thing.
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Is that with the Giants? Well, what the Giants running the ball the way that they are at him, they're not really doing very many three wide receiver sets to begin with, right? So they went very heavy in the tight end packages last week, and that was what's called a coin, but they understand where they're They're butter is getting bread right now.
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They e mean butter gets bread, bread gets butter, Tomato, tomato.
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It's all seemed to me.
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It is delicious.
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But to that point you have Sterling Shepard and Golden Tate actually kind of switching back and forth a little bit in the two wide receiver sets because as you saw Darius Lee and played 97% of the snaps on the outside, they know that he's the one outside guy that they have to keep out there.
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But everything else is interchangeable so to your point, because Golden Tate and Strong Shepherd are gonna be sharing some of some of the responsibilities when we go big in the jumbo jumbo lineups with Penny in there with, uh, Caden Smith, Evan and grow multiple tight end sets, Evan Engram is gonna be the guy that's gonna be out there more often than not, he is going to stay at that 70% snap count.
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He is going to be the one vertical threat that you think that that could get down the field to make place.
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But as you pointed out, the number one thing with him is consistency.
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It's like he's crazy, athletic.
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He could do things in the field that Onley Darren Waller, Kelsey and Kittel could do right, like that's the type of athleticism he has.
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But then he fumbles the ball.
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He drops passes.
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He doesn't know where that down and distances or he has a big holding penalty.
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It's like if we could just eliminate those pieces.
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He has the ability to be a top five tight end and not just be a top five talent.
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Tight end.
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Yeah, so you know, I don't want to say that That's going to be the you know there's that one play with Toews Jersey? Yeah, a jersey.
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Start waving that.
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Start waving that towel out there for Evan Evan Ingram for Pro Bowl selections here.
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But but it does.
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It does.
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It just is going to be very unique and interesting to see how they use them and then, by the way, like I know that the name doesn't get mentioned a lot in terms of receiving.
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But when you're running those jumbo sets, guys, a guy like Kaden Smith does become another.
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As you said, Wrinkle right where, Yes, your attention is going to go to a lot of different places, and I really I'm not talking about specifically in the Hey, it's a third and five kind of thing and you run this jumbo set in.
00:24:35
Kate Smith leaks out like all those little plays or what become crucial for the Giants.
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Not just in this game, but down the stretch overall, where you're saying, Hey, when the opportunity comes, we need to.
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We need to make that little play here.
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Not unlike last week, right to third down plays to third down throws for Colt McCoy.
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One of them was, Ah, Balto Evan Ingram, where he got his hands download to grab it and threw his body up field to get that first down.
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So if you can check those boxes in a given game, that really that that moves the needle and I don't expect it to be necessarily the 17 12 10 points given up defensively for New York against Seattle.
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But that little move right there is a difference between winning or losing right or giving an extra or easier opportunity back to the opposing offense.
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The last thing we just throw out here before we start to wrap this up here is when we look at the receiving numbers just to be clear here.
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Here's the problem.
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48 catches for 500 yards, just the one touchdown this year for Evan Ingram.
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But you know that that's That's a combination of a lot of things, including the play of Daniel Jones in the offensive line.
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Here's my big issue.
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84 targets for Evan Anger.
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He's almost double right.
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He's almost doubled up targets in terms of reception.
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So you're talking about for every two balls you throw him.
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He's bringing in one, and there's a lot of things that go into that is on target off target, etcetera.
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But that is not the ratio that you want, especially out of what you would argue is your most dangerous offensive weapon.
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You want your most dangerous? You wanted to be like nuke, right? DeAndre Hopkins esque of Hey, we rely on you for everything, and we hope other guys can step up instead.
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The Giants are saying our best weapon is also the one where we go. Uh huh.
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I love it at him.
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You couldn't resist.
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You just couldn't resist.
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Wait, wait wait.
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You said everything, Graham.
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It's so important you talk about like how we need him.
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And then all of a sudden we start talking about it.
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And you're like, Don't forget Caden Smith.
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You don't forget Kate and Smith.
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He is the guy we're talking about.
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How important Evan Ingram is.
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You you mentioned Caden Smith, and then you talk about how Evan Ingram's getting all these targets and he's not finalizing and finishing off the deal.
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I just I just know that your love for every Ingram will always come to the forefront in any discussion that we have.
00:26:40
Well, let's be clear here to the reason why do you bring up kids in Smith? And I was gonna take my lumps, uh, is the is because that Darius Slaten hasn't been able to make a couple of big plays, right? You don't Golden Tate has shown up a couple of times, as has you know, Sterling Shepard on occasion have been that chain mover.
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But the reality is you're gonna need these little place from different people.
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And I would argue that, like Kaden Smith on these little tiny sample sizes has showed up been like, oh, you need that little catch? Yeah, I'll move this ball 7 to 12 yards down the field two or three times a game, potentially, so I don't want to take it away from Evan angry because just a rabbit out just around ourselves out here.
00:27:19
Evan Ingram in these last hand full of games s even even last week, right with Global Coiner center again hit that mark perfectly.
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Four catches on eight targets for 32 yards.
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Aunt also had the one.
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Golf his hands Colt McCoy's fault and let let's the interception that week prior, though, against the Bangles, 66 catches on nine targets for 1 29.
00:27:37
Because you have to be that guy.
00:27:38
Maybe not, But you have to kind of split this difference here because it only takes going back to the Tampa Bay in Washington games where again exact stat lines.
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Five catches in both games, 10 targets in both games.
00:27:49
I just I just want to see him grab one more ball out of every target share that he gets each week, and all of a sudden this line turns to a 60 plus receiving year already on that same number of targets, etcetera.
00:28:00
So we won't won't belabor it.
00:28:02
Let's go ahead and shift our gears here, as we always say to that fonds little send off, that is at the end of the day.
00:28:10
At the end of the day, Andy, this is going to be a key matchup, not just for the Giants but for the Cardinals as well.
00:28:16
There's six and six.
00:28:17
Their playoff picture is on the line this week as well.
00:28:20
So you're gonna get the best version of both teams, I believe.
00:28:22
What is your key matchup? We could go across the board.
00:28:24
You pick, you know, dealer's choice here.
00:28:26
Wide receivers, halfbacks and then, of course, lines on both sides of the ball, the defense and offensive fronts.
00:28:32
Where does the crucial matchup exist for you in this game? And how do you see it shaking out? I'm gonna throw a wild card at you, Adam Wildcard.
00:28:42
Sorry, Call it out.
00:28:43
The big key matchup in this game is special teams.
00:28:50
It is not any of the wide receivers.
00:28:51
It's not the linebackers.
00:28:52
It's not who's shadowing Colin Murray.
00:28:54
It's special teams, and the reason why I say that it's simple.
00:28:57
The Arizona Cardinals are ranked number one in special teams play this year.
00:29:01
They are the number one ranked special teams play team.
00:29:04
And as you saw in Cincinnati, the Giants have been susceptible to big plays on special teams.
00:29:10
What's even crazier is Graham Gano has been the best kicker in the league so far this year.
00:29:16
What, and to add on top of that Joe Judge, is a special teams coach.
00:29:20
It is what got him hired in the first place.
00:29:23
So to me, I really do think that there special teams is so good and they give themselves really good field position and they do all the right things that that could be.
00:29:32
The big difference in this game is how do we match up on field position Kickoffs.
00:29:36
How his punt returns look, Are we making turnovers like what is happening there? Yeah, the specifics.
00:29:41
We talk about the Gunners getting down the field when we're sending the ball away right and making sure that you just mitigate because we also have a nice punter in Riley Dixon that has that big leg can really change the field position even when you're inside your own 30 or 35 you can get that ball down inside their 20 but it comes down to coverage and execution there.
00:30:00
So that that that that that that's a very noteworthy matchup to bring in, especially because the Giants have struggled a little bit in recent weeks, have had some blunders there.
00:30:08
Blocks, punk last week, and even the coverage downfield at times has been a little bit shaky, so we don't want allow things to turn on one play, one return, um, for myself, I'll say as we get out the door, I don't want to take away the battle.
00:30:24
That will be Hopkins right? But I think the Giants have proven that collectively, you put Bradbury on him, and then you Sprinkle in some extra help here and there.
00:30:34
I really look at it the same way that going to that game against Russell Wilson, this is about the defensive front.
00:30:39
It's about the fact that we're that we're getting pressure in a non traditional way without true edge rushers.
00:30:46
Right it to me, it's going to be about Leonard Williams, Dexter Lawrence and Dalvin Tomlinson.
00:30:50
You gotta You gotta do multiple things.
00:30:52
You're both stuffing the run, shutting that element down of their offense and then also getting that consistent wave of pressure on Kyler Murray that if he wants to start to scramble now, you gotta rely on Blake Martinez on Carter Coughlin Auntie Crowder on all the other linebackers to come up because when you saw really well last week against Russell, Wilson was even though 2.
00:31:12
5 sacks for Leonard Williams, when he almost got home, it forced into shuffle his feet.
00:31:17
Russell Wilson.
00:31:18
And then the next guy was there to grab him, right? So you need to have the staggered approaches from Patrick Graham and how you make it more difficult for Kyler Murray to say it's breaking down.
00:31:27
I can just go ahead and use my legs right? The more that you can buy them to the pocket, contain him a little bit.
00:31:32
There is going to force him to take more looks downfield, try to find those wide receivers, and then we trickle down in the order.
00:31:38
Yeah, I'm playing better in the secondary.
00:31:40
Certainly we like we're seeing from homes as he's worked his way through his rookie season as well.
00:31:43
So all these matchups, we're going to be key I I just think not unlike Seattle.
00:31:49
Don't let them explode on you, right? Mitigate the big place, keep everything in front of you and control it.
00:31:54
And then it's just relying consistency.
00:31:57
That's one of the things that we can say that often still needs to grow.
00:32:00
But we've been a consistent team in all three phases and gotten progressively better As the season has gone on.
00:32:05
That's what we need to see more of on Sunday.
00:32:07
Yeah, and to your point, that front three of the New York Giants against Kyler Murray.
00:32:12
The biggest thing for the Giants is to keep him in the pocket.
00:32:16
You have to keep Kyler Murray in the pocket, make him throw and make him beat you.
00:32:20
He's a great thrower of the football.
00:32:22
But of all the options that you have in terms of how Kyler Murray can beat you, I will take that one over broken plays, getting him out in space, one on one against Take Crowder like that's not what I want at all, because that's not a good position for the Giants to be in.
00:32:36
The longer he stays in the pocket, the better chance there is of Leonard Williams or someone up front being ableto take Kyler Murray down because he is a smaller guy.
00:32:43
If you get a hand on him, you can pull him to the ground and really make him beat you from inside that spot as opposed to these broken plays where anything can happen.
00:32:51
Yep, 100% man.
00:32:53
So as we as we say, you could always follows using hashtag o g p on SportsCastr at one giant podcast over on Twitter and social media in general.
00:33:01
A quick shout out to everybody like Okay, Caylee And then also you me, d m v, but specifically Laurence Owen, NFL, who does great film breakdown for the NFL at large here he came right in there and said, Keeping Kyler Murray boxed in right, worrying about locking up DeAndre Hopkins.
00:33:17
And, of course, he threw out there on the defensive side, having peppers involved in that blitz package.
00:33:21
That's where those extra players that could have like a Logan ride and maybe even Xavier McKinney helps you to be able to make those adjustments on the fly and give a lot of different looks like Kyler Murray.
00:33:31
Be sure to check in with us as I knocked the table here on social media I G Live will be giving our picks on Sunday ahead of the one oclock start early game back on track until next time until that time, as anti Moskowitz wants needs and demands that, you know, as always, let's go big blue.

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