Go. New York, New York. Go.
Well, you see way.
We don't want to make him feel left out.
You know, Washington, Washington.
I got plenty of Yankee stuff around, but you guys got me lost.
Ugo, that's okay.
But we want you to share your thoughts on your team.
As a matter of fact, we're gonna start with you.
So you feel like you're part of this.
You're not gonna feel left out.
And so you know, But let me just introduce you to my other cousin.
He's from my father's side of the family.
That's Henry he's wearing.
The New York had just like me.
And of course, he's a big time Nick fan.
Okay? And then you know Nina, you know my sister.
So why don't you introduce her and you know me? Um, there's What are you doing, bro? I'm good.
How are you? Alright.
Right now I'm waiting for Well, we could get started.
One of my colleagues from work.
Hey, wanted to join in, so I sent him the information.
Hopefully, he'll join us in a little while and Nina send send the link to dominate because I sent him the previous link, and that one only takes you to the page, but not necessarily to this broadcast that he sees lied.
So good starters off, Gabriel.
Because I know you got a lot thio say about Washington.
Okay, well, I got the first question of the days.
So who's your daddy? E.
I keep e went thio Yankee Stadium in, like, 2009 for the L.
D s against the twins we got when they won the Siri's.
But, I mean, I don't know right now, right now.
It's, you know, Russell Westbrook, I guess, Um oh, he's still got here. Okay.
Excited about it.
Really? When I first got announced and I think it was mostly just like the, you know, nostalgia about John Wall and all that on I still love John Wall obviously.
And I e still think he's a great player.
Um, but I just think, you know, the front office was just concerned with his last two years.
Like he just hadn't been on the hadn't been on the court at all.
And, you know, they wanted to clear up the cast so I don't know.
I don't know really, what to play with.
Also, Westbrook is like, if the plan on trying to give him a deal and, you know, keep him around for longer or what? But I mean, he's I was still I think he's still a pretty good player.
And, um, gonna be great for the fan base if nothing else.
And, um, yeah, great for great.
For just attention, I guess.
And you know, him and him and Bradley Beal together.
You probably aren't going to be the worst combo.
Um, you know, that's the question.
That's the question that I have Is that was there something, you know, behind the scenes that maybe we nobody heard about some friction between him and Bill, like, you know, whose team is it? Yeah.
I mean, I don't know, really.
I think, you know, they had been close.
I know they had been closed just based on, like, interviews that they had given Andi John Wall, like personally talking about their relationship.
Like, I think when When, you know, John Wall lost his mother.
Um, on Like Bradley, Beal was one of the first people to, like Go console him about that and, you know, it just seemed like they had a pretty genuine connection.
At least you know this.
It could have, I guess, treated at some point open the lies year to just given how little John Wall had been around, maybe or whatever.
You know, they feel like he's distancing himself from the team, but I don't know.
I mean, you know, overall, like people in D C Love John Wall on always going Thio.
And, you know, whenever you know fans are allowed back, the rockets come to play in D. C.
I'm sure, John Well, we'll get a standing ovation.
Um, so I mean, yeah, you know, I'm still I'm still pretty pretty heartbroken, I guess, to see you just because he's been around for so long.
You know, just, you know, again, that just nostalgia, like, is it Bradley meals? Or I think right now it's bills.
You know, just giving experience with the team.
There's obviously a start.
Uh, but, you know, I think I think Bill just has a good thing going with the team.
And he got absolutely snubbed last year.
Um, in terms of the All Star loath to the All Star Game.
But, um, yeah, like 30 points a game.
You know, you can't, uh I can't deny that, and I don't think you can.
You can try and take that away from him.
So, um, I hope that there is no tension between him and Russ.
Um, e I hope they could work something out, but in my eyes, I think it's, you know, it's bills right now.
Just because he's he's the guy, you know.
He's the guy on the team, right? And he's younger, of course.
So you know he's the next marquee player.
Russell, although he's still in his prime, you know, he's already got a few years on him, so he's got to come in as a support to Bill and hopefully be able to blend in with him.
One thing that you may get with breast off Westbrook is that he's healthier.
It'll be a, uh, and wall Coming off of a Achilles was an Achilles injury.
That's that's a serious was serious injury.
It will be interesting to see how explosive he will or will not be with Houston.
And maybe that's the thinking in terms of the front office.
Yeah, you know, I think that's what it is.
I think they just in their eyes is like, you know, we love John Wall, but at the end of the day, you know, it's it's a business decision for them, and they have to do you know what's best financially, you know, a certain level.
So when you have a guy is I didn't even know how many games he played over the last two seasons, but it can't be over, You know, 40 when you have a guy just, you know, sitting on the bench, Yeah, How does it is? You know, he's just sitting on the bench for the whole season, and you're paying him more money than anyone else on the team.
It's like you gotta you gotta reconsider some things at some point.
So, um, I think that's what it came down to for them, and they were just, like, need kind of, you know, more or less wasted enough time, kind of waiting for him to be back at his full potential when we could go out and get something for form, and that's what they did.
Ah, you have a fan in the chat.
Who says you know, we will always be way love him, so, yeah.
You're not alone here.
Yeah, I think that's I think that's one of my buddies I sent the link to.
So we you know it zits strong.
You know, we're really you know, d C is always gonna love him.
D c is always gonna love him.
E think Russell Westbrook is going toe Help you forget about him? I think so, too.
Honestly, you know, I was looking at just some of the teams like social media today, and they had just some clips of Russell coming in, and they had, like, a few practice clips and stuff, and, um, you know, he looks good.
Like it's It's Russell Westbrook.
You know, I'm not I'm not going to say I'm not going to say I'm disappointed about it.
Really? Like he you know, he's still he's still a great player.
So, um, yeah, I Once once we get the regular season role again, I think once we get to see him and deal in action.
Um, people, people are probably gonna get over that pain.
They're not gonna forget about jungle, but they're gonna get over the pain a little bit quicker, Mr Smith.
Nina, Any thoughts? I know your wheels attorney so far away, you know, I mean, I think Westbrook is is a phenomenal athlete.
Um, I just don't You know, I just don't see it. I'm sorry.
You know, I'm not a fan.
And that was my gut reaction, you know? Yeah, well, not a fan off Westbrook.
He just He's a triple double machine triple bubble machine.
He does more than any other player on the court.
That the war war number one.
Anything earlier, either.
E, I think I think that the best players to play with Yeah, that's the thing.
I think I think that, like Russ is, obviously, you know, like, like, obviously like an incorrect.
Yeah, like, he's obviously an incredible athlete.
And the, you know, the production is obviously they're like in terms of the triple doubles.
Like you could look at his stats, but But what you're saying about you know what you're saying about? He does more than anyone else in the court like that and sometimes be.
The problem is that he's trying to literally just do too much, you know, like you watch him in the playoffs and he's just like, you know, like, they It's like possessions late in the game where they need to score.
And Russ is just flying all over the court like trying to do literally everything.
And it's like, just settle down, settle down and run a play or something.
It's not, Um, yeah, No.
So that it's not exactly And that you know that that was my gut reaction.
Honestly, um, is that you know, and I still hope that feels team in my eyes.
I hope that Russell doesn't come in and just try to do way too much and take the ball out of bills, hands and, um, and just kind of bleed everyone else on the court, you know? Stop Brooks.
No, Scott Brooks.
Right? You know, he was his coach in O k.
When he first came up. No, that's true.
So he might be able to get in his ear about, you know, this is a new situation for you.
Let's tryto make something happen.
Just like we had back in O K C When e When they almost went toe the second round, right? Yeah, when he had done and he had to rats and, uh, yeah, but that was the organizational decision to give up harder.
Was not hardened in those days.
By the way, he was 1/6 man.
He was 1/6 man back then.
But, you know, at the same time, you gotta thank you.
Gotta think about six, man.
I mean, I just remember watching, you know? Yeah.
I mean, he was a six Magal.
I just remember 2012 watching, you know, the end of the finals against the heat and just thinking like they're gonna be back, you know, like, you know, they're gonna be back soon, and yeah, just didn't panned out.
That that will always be I think one of the biggest one ifs, um, is what if Russ keep it will be hard and had stayed together together on the thunder.
Yeah, Oklahoma City might have been celebrating our championship.
Yeah, seriously, At least one.
I mean, they you gotta think you gotta think they would have had, at least absolutely, you know, even with LeBron with the way even with LeBron in the league, like, you gotta think they would have had at least one.
But that's not the way things go.
And actually, that's one thing I wanted.
So I was thinking about earlier.
When you guys come on this, I don't know, bubble.
Like I could just introduced topic, I guess.
What? Um, I was playing e.
Guess what you guys think the whole or, you know, issue or non issue.
I guess depending on how you see it of, like, superstar players, just like deciding to go wherever they want, you know? And there is kind of, like, I guess, like a contingency now of people who say like that, it's a problem.
How superstars Just deciding to go like, you know, they're just bullying teams and, like, hard and now apparently requesting a trade with, like, I think, almost like three or four years left on his deal.
Um, like, like with an option.
So it could be like four years left on his deal.
And so people are kind of like questioning, I guess what you know the future of the league is gonna be if guys, we're just gonna start bullying front offices.
Uh, you know, get them out of there if they want Thio.
I mean, in years past preparations, it was very, very rare Where you have, um, superstars dictate where they would end up.
You know what I mean? If they weren't happy given franchise, you know, trying to get management to actually trade into another team.
What what happened in the past would be a superstar player will get a coach fired.
That was very common, Dad.
Magic did their magic when he was with the Lakers.
He didn't like Paul West full on as a result of that, he work this, you know, channels behind the scenes to get him fired.
And ultimately, Pat Riley became the head coach there.
So that was mawr, the common type of practice back in the day.
But things have changed in this era, you know now, because you have a lot of players that they've learned how to use leverage to their advantage.
And as a result of that, you have the hardens of the world or other players that also and even Westbrook.
I think there was whispers out there that Westbrook wanted Thio trading.
It didn't just happen by chance.
You know, franchises.
They're gonna comment.
You have David it? Yeah.
Right? Well, back in the day.
If I make time in the the The organization's used to trade away players as they please.
You know, like if it was whatever was beneficial for the team and even star players would get traded to other teams after they've been, you know, they were passed.
The organization felt that they were past their prime.
And one of those cases was, well, Frasier.
He was the face off the Knicks.
He took them to those championships and he got traded to the Cleveland Cavaliers.
Really? For they being another old dude just like that s o.
I mean, the script has been flipped at this point, you know, it's a business.
That's the reality of it.
That's one thing I learned in my many years following the game, uh, specifically more so when I used to work at Madison Square Garden, I went in there with a purist mind at heart thinking, you know how pure the game was.
But that's when I really learned the business side off sports being at the professional level at the college level.
And that's when I realized a It's big money.
There's a lot of money at stake.
Both sides have a lot, you know that they want to get out of it.
And if it doesn't work for one party or the other, they're gonna try to force a trade or or team is going to try to trade a player.
It's just it's just the nature of the beast, and that's that's the reality of it.
But I think to your point, um is that it's killing the small markets, though.
Oklahoma, Houston, you know, like, if he leaves them, what they wanna have anything for the next 10 years.
Yeah, at least this way they at least make it to the playoffs.
Yeah, Yeah, and you know it, Z Yeah, I I think it's ah, it puts guys like, um you know, I guess like John is, for example, or just other guys like that who are kind of like stand out players on their teams.
Um, it kind of puts them in a weird position where I feel like, you know, maybe guys wanna guys want to go into the league and kind of stick it out with one team, like the whole time and just kind of, um, you know, earn their way to a championship on one team.
Or maybe some guys, you know, Do you just wanna bounce around or whatever, But, um, for the guys that you wanna, you know, just take like the Kobe or out play 10, 15 years for one single team and try to win a few championships.
Makes it I got too tough for them.
Um, you know, when you just you look around and you see people just going you know, it's whatever team they please in the off season and teams winning championships out of nowhere and dynasties being built out of nowhere.
So, yeah, I don't know.
Definitely it It changes the It's something I guess can change the landscape of the league really, really quickly.
Just overnight even.
So what do you think in terms of the next? What do you think? What do you see? You know, in terms off the coaching changes fundamental changes.
The team as it is right now.
Impressed, not impressed.
You know, e I've been I'm gonna crack.
I'm a diehard Nick fan, right? And I've been so disgusted with my team e don't know, eight years, okay? It's been horrible that z eso, but by the way, I have a delay from my end.
So, like, I see you guys moving, I see your mouth moving, but I don't hear the the audio.
So like flu, but I don't hear Okay, so if I don't respond, it's because I'm not I'm not hearing you guys.
S o e got is enjoyed.
All the teams took a boy heartbreak that the Knicks have put me through this'd year plan on following because they make no need.
You go. I'm sorry.
I think every going like this and and I see that gave him wanted to say something.
I gotta delay from my end, So I'm sorry. Go ahead.
I was just going to say I mean, I feel saying something.
Game the next, the next Do you have, like, draft picks going for them that they've just been ableto like ac***ulate a lot of like, up and coming stars out of college over the last few years.
Like guys like Dennis Smith.
I mean, they they didn't draft him.
J Barrett, like e mean millikin is not bad, obviously, like overseas pick.
But, um e mean, they just I don't know what it is with them.
You know, you look at their roster and it's like they should be able to produce something out of this, but, um, yeah, I don't know.
As an outside observer, it just seems like a year after year, you just He just watched him like, you know, confusion.
It is. It's confusing.
So I personally and personally don't see anybody beating the Lakers anytime soon after the Greek freak ended up being there for the next season.
Lakers Got it way.
Might as well just give it up.
Basketball is over.
That is the team.
No one's gonna beat that team.
There's just nobody is gonna be this freaking t e can't see how anybody is gonna be beat LeBron 80.
What's that? Got Pope Pope Guy, What's his name? Contro Bia's can save you talking about.
They got they tries to mantra is from the Clippers.
Well, what Greek freak? It's not.
That's his brother.
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Well, we're talking about right now, right now.
Not supposed to.
Nothing until they sign the contract.
There's no final deal.
He's been walking.
Guys don't get Get it.
Twisted me walking a about.
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What's the What's the check out the roster? What What's the Lakers sauce? He has his younger brother on the team.
His younger brother.
It sounded telecom pose.
Brother is with the Lakers.
He didn't even play last year.
He wasn't a bubble large.
It's his. Twitter is his brother.
It's his brother.
Yeah, but yeah, but it's not.
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Yeah, Yeah, but no, he's not there.
He's got a He told the bucks. Name him.
I'm like No, we had a over there.
You know you leave, You can breathe. You can breathe.
Exhale s So that's not the case.
I still like them, but nugget.
Yeah, e like the Denver Nuggets.
Joker e like that team.
That fundamental basketball.
Yeah, no, but washing the Nuggets in the playoffs.
So it made It made no sense to me Like how Yokich is ableto like score points or anything in the paint like I mean, his phenomena Bility first off is one thing like he can actually, I mean, he's a lights out three point shooter like, you know, you'll be watching some games and any sinks like five in the first quarter.
But, um, inside the like it down low.
It's scoring down low.
It does not make sense to me at all because you see him with the ball, and he just has, like, some of the most awkward looking footwork I've ever seen.
And I guess it just, like, kind of makes sense for someone with his size.
But he just kind of like, you know, stumbles around, like, underneath the basket and then throws the ball up and it goes in.
But yeah, the Nuggets, the Nuggets make it work.
I get 111 pickup, actually by Lakers this off season.
That I think is really good.
Um, Dennis traitor Schroeder from the Atlanta Hawks.
Well, he was okay.
See, He was in O k c o.
He was Yeah, he got traded to Okay.
Hey. Was with Chris.
And he over the last couple of years has been developing its, like, really, really special player.
And I think, like the Lakers, you know, LeBron will figure something out.
They'll figure out a good role for him, and, um, yeah, I think he's a He's gonna be a big fan is Gondol.
He got in his game after Rondo, but he has a more consistent a room in a shot.
They got Marcus sold to Yeah.
Uh, the other guys and not so great.
Uh, they should repeat.
They should repeal.
They got Alex Caruso.
You know, barring any injuries because you know, anybody looks good on paper until you get on the floor and you can stay on the floor.
Look at the Clippers, the Clippers.
Everybody would say they're the team to beat.
Well, then they have chemistry issues.
Before they had those breakdowns in the finals, they were the team to be, but the injuries going up to them.
So, yes, the Lakers looked like the team to be.
But we have to let it play out because injuries can change anything.
And for the time could also catch up with LeBron.
That's what I was about to say.
I was about to say, you know, 36 18, I think six.
So going into the 18th year, Yeah, James Howard shouting out the Karoo show.
Oh, yeah, Going into his 18th year, I mean, that is crazy like that.
I don't I don't understand how he's still able, Thio, I guess just, like take over games the way he waas, you know, this year in the playoffs, But we'll see.
You know it could It could finally be the year where his age starts to show a little bit.
Um, but I don't know right now.
I mean, I don't see it right now, but of course they haven't played a game.
But I just think I like the Lakers because, you know, just going off the last year, I think that it was kind of, I mean, maybe a long shot for them to actually win the finals.
Like people thought they were definitely gonna cruise through the West, Probably.
But, like, I don't know, I don't know if at the beginning of the year, if you think with just LeBron and a d, um, that they could have automatically in that much of a lock for the finals like, but, you know, just building off of that with all the pieces they've added this off season, I think they are probably, uh, in my in my eyes, I think the favorite dogs toe, I think I think the shortest season, I think the shortest season help Mom.
You know, I think the sort of see that helped LeBron so that he was able to stay okay for the playoffs.
But I was surprised by Miami.
So I want to see what happens to Miami.
That xprize there.
Really? I e didn't expect him to do that.
Yeah, and and they're just like they're just a team that plays really, really well together.
And like their defense is is pretty locked down.
And yeah, I I think the I think they definitely surprised a lot of people.
Um, and at the same time.
You know, you got to keep in mind like you said the short season.
It it helped a lot of teams that have heard a lot of teams like the bubble.
You gotta think, Yeah, the bubble.
You gotta think the sons, you know, given the one that they went on in the bubbles, you know, making it into the playoffs.
You know, what would they have been able to do with the full length season? So, um, you know, we'll have to see.
Yeah, hero hero is really good.
And Jimmy, Jimmy is a great leader.
Jimmy is a guy that's like he you know, he's not even He's kind of, like the opposite of Russ.
You know, where he's just, like, doesn't care about his stats whatsoever.
Like, he's gonna pass, he's gonna rebound on.
But if he doesn't, if he doesn't get to shoot the ball, you know, more than five times in the first half, he doesn't really care as long as his teams up.
So Henry, uh, talk to me.
You know, we got to give him a moment here.
You know his guts out about the Knicks.
So go ahead and do your thing.
I believe o e 01 thing about that we can all agree upon with the Knicks is that they can only get better.
They can only get better.
And the way that the idea off bringing in a defensive minded coach that is going to give them an identity.
It's already a plus.
Then they drafting pretty well.
Okay, that is not one of these.
Like they picked Frank Nil.
Akina a head off Mitchell.
What's the day? Mitchell? Donovan Mitchell? I saw.
I saw the tape of that today somewhere, and I saw Donovan Mitchell congratulating, frightening the key.
The way he got called up, I was like, only cow Donovan Mitchell was right there for us big.
But either way, this year with it wouldn't do too bad.
I don't think that there was too many mistakes with the draft.
And who knows if this guy will be similar to what Mitchell Robinson did for us, which was a find.
It was a second rounder.
Never played college, you know, State off.
Uh um he didn't even go to Europe.
He just worked out on his own, came into the Knicks and he was a game changer.
You know, for excitement, man.
I mean, and and we're a nice point guard.
Like, quickly in their listen, I'm looking forward to them playing all of these young guys and giving those young guys the opportunities to either sink or swim.
I think with this kid coming out of Kentucky, they might help.
Knocks a little bit mhm, if not knocks.
Gotta get moved out, man.
Yeah, And let all these other guys play because we've given him two years to show what he's got.
So between him, Mikino You know, I'm you know, let me see some office, that coach make those guys play defense, and I think that I got a good squad, man.
I got a nice squad coming in.
Then I got Toby all we want Cano b o r J Barrett Emmanuel Quickly.
I saw some tapes of Julius Randle doing some stuff, even though he disappointed me last year.
Okay, I'm looking for Austin Rivers to do a little work.
Andi, I got big bigness, man.
I love the way that get worked out in the G League last year.
And I'm hoping that he gets the opportunity, man, cause he's like one of these.
What was it? The league you remember leave when we had him a couple of years ago.
It's just a hard work.
It gets in there and does all the dirty work, you know, Whereas Randall just wants to take a shot and run the other way.
Yeah, so I mean, I think I agree.
You know, with your point about just getting the young guys out there and just, you know, seeing what they could do.
And I think, like you've seen a lot of teams try that out, like I have, you know, measurable success with that.
Like, I think you know, one example, I guess would be the Kings come to mind. Sacramento.
I love what they do, you know, like just trusting and deer and fox and trusting and the guys that they have.
Um, the sun e did it. Yeah.
The sun's or another one, you know, bringing in eyes like, obviously, if Devin Booker started the show but then bringing guys like Kelly, you were himself.
You try to build around these young guys, and you don't You don't go after, um, guys that you're not, you know, kind of get that much production out of, I guess.
Um, So I I agree.
I think that, you know, honestly, that they have, You know, it's like you said, they can only go up from here.
So the the upside of that is, you know, it's obviously very high, but at the same time does take, like, a couple of seasons to develop.
You know that confidence and have the team gel together.
Um, but, you know, it's also I was gonna say, be funny.
You know, it's gonna It's gonna be funny to see Austin Rivers kind of stepping in.
It looks like he's close toe one like the oldest guys on this roster.
Like he's gonna be stepping into, like, the veteran role veteran leader role on the Knicks roster with all these young guys.
So, yeah, it'll be.
It'll be really interesting, you know? What was that? Is he gonna be like Tatum from the Celtics? Do you think it No, no, no, no.
It would have been that already know topping is gonna be like Tatum Tatum team is a bucket.
Tatum is a bucket.
Tatum Tatum is one of those guys that he's gonna be around for, you know, 10, 15 years, and you can see you can see him becoming like a legend in the MBA.
Honestly, Tatum is a Tatum is a special player.
Yeah, and if he, you know, all Kobe passed away, he worked out with with Kobe s.
So he picked up a lot of stuff from Kobe, and he's taken it into his game.
And now he's become, you know, a second version of Kobe in terms of the work that he's put into his game e saying that he's Kobe.
But the work that Kobe put into his game, that's what freedom is trying todo Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's gonna be Who's the leader? So, Henry, who's the leader in the mix? Who is the leader? Yeah, Uh, the coach? Uh huh.
The coach is the leader on the next.
Yes, uh, there is no big guys a little use.
Okay, Uh, what they really need is for for dinner.
Smith Jr Thio developed or, you know, you know, like they say she don't get on or get off the pot.
You know, because if not quickly, should be put right into that situation.
You don't want my 35 days.
I got quickly, R J Barry.
Topping Randall and ignorant press desk keys.
That's my starting 50 Did I live on Mr Robinson? I'm sorry, fellas.
It's stopping Randall Robinson.
RJ and Emmanuel quickly e.
I agreed with four out of who have Thio.
He hasn't come off the bench.
Peyton, use the guy that that knows how to run a bench.
Quickly, quickly the rookie beaches.
He's gotta earn his minute, and he's gonna learn the league.
And he's great coming off off off the bench because he's still got to learn the game.
I'm not saying that he's not a good player, but again, there's a transition.
And you're not just gonna come into the league and be ableto just Yeah, but did you say that? Did you say that about about this kid from from Atlanta last year? Oh, we got a win.
It's gotta be, You know, it just blew up.
He's not the same thing.
It is not the same.
You know, it takes a It's a little guy.
So it's a little thing, you know? I think it takes a It takes a really special player to be able to come in.
Yeah, straight out of college. Exactly.
And even be able to keep up.
Honestly, you could be able to keep up with the game, you know? Okay, I'm glad that we have in this conversation because I hope that he changes a lot of minds, you know, on this platform, e I'm hoping for him and that, you know, he proves Toby, because, remember, he's, uh he's played a couple of years on the on the Calipari.
So, you know, it's not like he's ah, one and done.
Yeah, it that came out of college.
He's coming out with some experience, even though he's a little bit of a, you know, a little under Wait.
You know, he doesn't have ah MBA body, But again, neither did the kid from Atlanta.
Right, But trade Young was, you know, he was He was the guy.
He was the guy on his team.
He came in having that kind of Yeah, he had that kind of responsible.
Of course, we question what kind of MBA body he had to be able to compete at the MBA and obviously, his work for him.
That's the exception.
That's not the rule this quickly.
He's a solid player, but I don't think he can feel those shoes coming into the MBA just like that.
If anything, I will start painting because Peyton already knows.
The team knows that people up and then you bring in a quickly behind him.
Okay? Absolutely, You know, being groomed potentially as a future point guard.
But I wouldn't I wouldn't start him.
Not ready to run a team, right? Not at this level.
Not all bad, so but they also have Austin Rivers as a point guard.
Yeah, yeah, that's another fact.
I think I think that someone that you wanna have kind of like a mentor for these young guys just because of like, his playoff experience, and he's just, you know, he's been around forever.
Yeah, you know, he's just he's just a great guy to have around.
I think, especially when you have all these young guys on the team means some kind of Cem leadership.
And you're probably not gonna get that like Michael.
Michael. Michael, Kill whatever.
Yeah, or Nerlens Noel because, um, yeah, you know, you know, they gotta want Omari Spellman to Those guys are pretty good.
I mean, their players, they got skilled.
Let's kill players.
Villanova is one of those programs that, you know, they produce guys that air that essentially game ready again.
Another four year guy, Omari Spellman.
That's a good thing.
Yes, it ISS Yeah, that's a good thing, because you bring it in guys that a little bit more, you know, experienced more mature as opposed to a one and done.
You know, you don't know what you're gonna get.
High risk, high reward.
But with these four year players, at least you get good, good, solid.
You know, glue, guys that can help stabilizing locker room and potentially be a solid play in the n B.
If not, you know, a potential start.
Listen, man, he said the coach says everybody's gonna have to earn their minutes. Okay.
Should be So So I'm looking forward.
Toa I 10 man rotation.
Listen, I go 15, man.
Oh, Listen, that's the way I mean, you know, I know I'm going to an extreme, but the reality is this.
If you have such a young squad, you wanna put the premium on defense.
You make sure that folks get minutes.
Not everybody's gonna get the same amount of minutes, But at least you're getting in and getting them game game experience.
And also you create good habits.
Wait good habits.
Otherwise, right now, we can't expect them to be a playoff team.
No, they gotta be a team in transition and development.
They gotta show levels of improvement throughout the season.
Yeah, there's a the seven.
What is it? 87889 and 10, 789 Say it again.
E was thinking that this year the playoff, the format is that the last the 789 and 10 are going to be playing in for the eighth spot? Yeah, or the 8th, 9th and the 10th, you know, in the standings will be for the eighth, five like a plane round robin game.
Yeah, that's what they did in the bubble.
They did that in the bubble.
That's how Portland got in on in Phoenix.
although they want every game.
They just came up short.
That's that's That's terrible, right? You win all your games and you don't make it.
That's pretty bad.
But somebody had a better record.
Didn't know that's that's what happened.
Okay, so So So? So winning all those games meant nothing to them.
You haven't played this game for that? No.
Well, yeah, but they got experience out of it.
Okay? That's a young team.
That Phoenix team is gonna be a team to watch now, because now they have three.
They got Chris Ballinger.
Hey, knows how to set people up.
And then they got that shooting guard, Man, that kid is he's the truth.
Yeah, he really is.
And you're gonna see it.
Is it here? A lot of Kentucky guy e Think you're ready? Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm following.
What was that? Nina, You have a bad delay.
You need to connect it.
Even that cable to you? There's a lot of delay from Miami.
Next time I will.
Yeah, because you're using your WiFi and it's not reliable, but Henry e can't see any staff or anything because it slows me down in product.
I gotta I can't see any stats or teams right now, because otherwise, if my Internet just slows down even further a question for Henry s.
So you say you have a 10 minute? Yeah, Yeah, but 10 man rotation of the Knicks is what you're saying.
So, like, so you don't see them, you know, making the playoffs anytime soon.
They could come in.
They could be the ninth or the 10th team in the East.
Yeah, *** do that.
But I think what? What? They were ninth last year.
Remember where? I can't remember where they finished.
Honestly? Okay. I know.
Yeah, I wanna answer.
I wanna answer James in the shot.
I don't think the calves will make a run e alone.
Detroit all destroy cats or Detroit.
I'm not gonna make it.
Is this can experience, man.
Is he really saying he just throwing stuff out? This be a come on? E his his opinion about magic.
I agree with his opinion about e I agree about the re marble commentary, but the Cavs Come on, man.
Who is this case? Are you for real? He's just say stuff, man.
Can't take him to you.
Let me see who's gonna be, who's gonna be.
But going back to what you were saying earlier, though.
But next having a 10 or a joke, a 15 team, a 15 minute rotation.
Um but I fully agree, you know, I think that's what they have to do right now.
And especially in a season like this, where you know, it's not like you're trying Thio.
You know, it's not like you're trying to make the playoffs.
You're not trying to make a run right now or anything like that.
You're just trying to see what you can dio you know when that's funny games.
So you can try and figure out what you wanna do for for your roster moving forward.
But as long as you know right now, when you don't even have set five in rotation, Yeah, I think absolutely.
You got to be getting You have to be, uh, trying out as many guys as you can, and you have to be having a really deep bench.
And if anything else, you know, it'll just, I guess keep the guys on the bench which competitive and keep everyone engaged.
And, um, yeah, you know, just create a good morale.
I think that what is a good coach, and I think out of a bunch of young guys like that, like he should be able to get some, you know, you know, and the thing about it is when you play that many players and again 15 inches the extreme.
But if you play, if you expand your roster, that means you could be that much more aggressive defensively.
Because you can't worry about trouble using players, and you're, you know, is stealing good habits.
You're not worried about foul trouble, and you're also you're not.
You're not overworking guys.
So it's not, you know, you say you tell everybody listening.
You're going to give five minutes every quarter.
That's it s so you will bust your behind when you get out there on defense.
Yeah, and left the office come off for the defense.
And and? And if you don't play hard, Okay.
We got next, man.
Next man up is gonna come in, and they're gonna play for those minutes.
They're gonna want those minutes.
Try to create that sense in the locker room.
And what then you were gonna so I mean, I'm all about defense.
I could appreciate somebody's got to score.
So some there's our rhythm shooters.
So how you gonna household these players about rhythm? Shooter's gonna get the timing is only gonna be on the court for five minutes in the event.
Well, again, you know where we're being facetious, that they're gonna get five minutes, but you're gonna have your rotation, and then you build around your rotation, you get guys, you may not play every every, You know, every guy in every single game, But you could You can alternate from game to game.
You have your starting five, and then you work from there the rest of your roster.
That's that's the way you think like that.
I don't think they even established starting five or anything like that.
We're playing tomorrow night, folks at 7 p.m.
Where is the starting five? Who is it? Let me see. Let me see.
The only disagreement is quickly, um, you know, because you told quickly I chose Peyton eso they got.
They do have already.
Barrett, Obi Topping, Julius Randle, Randle Mitchell Robinson on and Alfred.
Peyton, there was your starting five is official.
Well, this is what I got here.
Looking at the New York Knicks death shot.
So the starters are Elfrid Payton, R J.
Barrett, Obi Topping, Julius Randle and Mitchell Robinson.
Mama, I really liked that guy.
I really like that guy.
Topping it's gonna be awesome is gonna be awesome.
What? And then in the second, the second they're talking about the Latina birds Reggie Bullock? Yeah.
Now that's going.
No, I know is good coming off the bench.
And he's a defensive guy.
So he's gonna be good to push Mitchell Robinson and coming off the bench.
He's a veteran. Awesome.
Is he a day to day? Yeah.
The third is the third rotation.
He's not even not even coming off the bench in the first rotation.
You know your friend James Have, uh Yeah, he asked the question about Melo.
You James brother, a break up about the mellow ball.
What do you guys think about the melon ball? E o What do you think? You know, that's That's another interesting case, like just in turn terms of the Charlotte Hornets, where they kind of have a mix of, like, younger guys Davonte Grandma loved at Kansas Leak monk.
And then they got like, Terry Gordon Hayward, Um, and then, you know, bringing in Lamela's So, um, Miles Bridges.
Obviously, uh, I I honestly don't know.
I think out of the three ball brothers, I honestly think I see the mellow having the most upside Really? E.
I mean, you know, just because I and I guess I haven't seen him play that much, but just, uh, you know, building that kind of experience in the pro leagues, like in New Zealand or wherever he was going to play.
Yeah, you know, skipping college to go to that.
Like, you know, we've seen plenty of guys come out off the national leagues and, you know, it's proven to be it's proven to be a good developmental strategy for young players that don't want to go to college route.
So I don't know.
I think Lamela's gonna be really interesting on, um, if you know, if the Hornets decided to play him.
You know, obviously they have a few older guys on that team, But if they if they do decide to give us a minute, e think I'd be really excited to see what it does.
Yeah, the Miller.
He's very talented.
I mean, he has the potential to be a star player in this league.
I do like Lonzo Lonzo ball.
He's solid, he's solid and he has the potential.
What I see in Lonzo is he has the potential to have a career similar to Jason Kidd.
He likes Thio distribute the ball and he's further along in his jump shot than Kid Waas.
When came into the league, Kid was not a perimeter shooter.
He was get the ball and dribble it the length of the court and then either shooting or pass it off a lot of snow.
On the other hand, he grabs the rebound and he's looking down court.
He doesn't dribble in 94 ft.
You know he's passing.
It would have cost that even on the half, court said he gets and he keeps it moving and he's worked on his jump shot so close to his property fast.
His defense is solid defense is solid and his rebounding decide.
That's why I say I seen him like adjacent kid, you know, 2.
Oh, he has, you know, superstar potential.
You know, being able.
Yeah, it's a matter of fulfilling it.
But he has that potential.
Hey, has a Yeah, he has great vision.
And it's also I think, that he has good players around him.
I think that he has good players around him that will be able to help him out.
Just kind of help him get his footing.
Like Terry is one guy.
Um, who specifically on that team, right.
Who? Yeah, yeah, Hayward and Hayward.
You know, but Carrie Yeo Grams mind just because Carrie carrie was, like, you know, kind of built his own, you know, I feel like he almost came out of nowhere.
He made the best of his opportunity.
Uh, you know, with the minutes he was getting with the Celtics and built on that and he was able to turn himself into, like, you know, pretty pretty, highly sought after player in the n b.
But he took a step back when he went well, He was with the Celtic.
He was like the guy When, When, uh, I went down.
And then he went and toe the Hornets, and it's like he wasn't the same player.
You know, you know it z hard to explain what it is.
If it's just I guess, you know, maybe he misses playing in Boston or whatever, but for some reason, yeah, he's just coming up short.
Is your issue stayed in Boston? Yeah, way eventually that he would have been the Madigan.
Yeah, and that, You know, that is still one thing that we have to see pan out is how the Nets do when they have all the pieces ready to go when Katie Hiree come back.
If they're not serious title contenders, I don't know.
That's gonna be interesting.
Yeah, that's one of those team that on paper, they look Boston.
However, the chemistry that they had was without K d and Kyrie.
Now they have to all take a step back, give the ball to Kyrie and Katie and then number 3rd and 4th options.
And and we've had this conversation and I know James from the chat rooms is bringing this up, but this is a conversation that I've had with Henry before in terms of Kyrie.
Unfortunately, Kyrie is super talented.
I mean this kid talent alone.
There's no dispute.
The problem with Kyrie is his leadership skills.
And on top of that, you know it's about him having the ball 24 7, as opposed as a point guard.
You want to distribute, you wanna make sure your teammates are happy.
And when it's all right, they're gonna be more than willing to give you the rock so that you could shoot it and close the game.
But here's mentality is he's got to score every single point every single quarter, and that's not gonna translate into winning basketball.
It translates into great stats, you know, on a personal being a good place to basketball, right? You know, and that's that's the unfortunate part because the kid is super talented.
I mean, he's a bad kid.
I mean, nasty, great hair.
But, you know, he doesn't help chemistry because he'll make that Kyrie like we're gonna put him on your team. Yeah.
No, E said we're gonna give them to you.
We're gonna put him on your team, Kyrie.
Oh, you could keep my read.
You could keep, bro.
Don't want either.
Uh, they were two guys, and I guess e definitely more than a head case.
You know, it's exactly like you were saying with Kyrie.
Is that the talent is no doubt there.
You know, we saw that in Cleveland, obviously.
But it's just a question of is he, you know, fully committed Thio giving the ball up for the sake of the team.
And you know when when he doesn't have the shot, is he gonna pass it all for he's gonna try to make the play, And it's, you know, he and Westbrook have the same similar mentality, just like yeah, you know, exact.
What kind of like expected with a tribute? The ball? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But But he doesn't have that mentality.
His mentality want to school first.
He wants to make players.
Yeah, he wants Hey, want to score first? And the thing about God, right? That's what he is in the pudding point guard.
That's what you can't be 2/5 of the office on.
And then the other thing is to in terms of chemistry and how you come along and bring along place last year or last season.
You know, he made a comment that doesn't sit well with, I'm sure his teammates.
He says, Oh, you know, we definitely know, You know, roster upgrade.
Yeah, we could think that you could think that you don't make that public say that you don't say that because that puts your teammates in a bad position.
First of all, they're gonna look at you sideways.
It's interval now.
They gotta answer to the media.
If the media questions them about e z e exactly.
And then the second thing that he said this this season, I mean, before, this would be positive.
Okay, But let me let me just add just one more point or Dominic joined the broadcast so hopefully he'll log in and he'll be one of our co host.
Uh, just listen and Dominic, you'll find out So anyway, so the other thing that I found very good disturbing about Kyrie is that he said, you know that they don't need a coach that they're going to coach by committee or or operate no, man.
Don't undermine the coach.
Yeah, you could make that statement behind this is don't make it public, because that doesn't it Doesn't You know, it doesn't go over Well, you know, willing to listen to a coach.
Yeah, that's right.
Already undermining the coach.
Well, you know, off course.
A good thing I would say that he's got going for himself is that him and Katie have been friends for a very long time.
So hopefully that relationship, he will give it some respect, and he will be able to say, Okay, Katie is the man in this team.
I'm gonna The rock goes through him, you know? Maybe he will say, Okay, I know my role.
And I'm the number two.
I mean, maybe you think you think you say that I think that will have a delay, so I don't know what In Cleveland, I'll chat.
Do you agree? Really.
Problems with him in Cleveland? I just think that he has a relationship, that he did like best friends.
So maybe he would defer to KB now that he's learned he's more mature so that he could actually win, you know? Yeah.
You know because they'll be it.
It's just It's Katie.
I mean, it's not like you're you're playing against somebody who's just coming up on the league.
This is like, you know, one of the best players in the leaf.
Yeah, I agree with the point e.
I agree with the point in the chat about Katie not really having experience as like a leader of a team.
Um, you know, with the with the thunder.
He was still obviously super young.
Just getting a start, you know, on Then when he went to the warriors, he had, you know, a group who wanted to be number one, right? And then when? But when he went to the Warriors, you know, he had to play with the team that it was really without him.
They had already.
They had already developed everything.
They had already built their chemistry, and Katie was just adding to what they are.
But then in my differs him.
Yeah, but But at the same time, it's not like, you know, he didn't have to.
Really? He didn't.
He didn't have any, I guess.
Um, on that seat, he came into a team that was already.
All there, the pieces put together.
Essentially, they just followed short the playoffs.
Sure, you could tell that they were right on the cost of winning a championship.
They had already won one, but now they have already won.
They had anyone there was just making something that was better.
Eso Katie he came into that situation is just like, you know, let me coast off this to a regular.
Honestly, I'm comfortable saying that, but he also felt he that he was one of the go to guys, and that was his problem with Green.
Yeah, And he was one of the go to guys, you know? He asked me, you know, way, Katie, on your on your team, you're gonna give him the ball.
Especially late in the game scenario like that.
Um, but yeah, you know, it's it's tough when you're coming into a situation where they've already developed their chemistry.
Like I said, they've already They already have their guys, you know, like, um on giving one side.
Yeah, Well, listen, I'm telling you, it z gonna be interesting to see the dynamics in.
In Brooklyn, they play together or don't play together.
I mean, they definitely have the potential.
Like you said, Henry paper.
They look great on people.
They look great.
However, however, people and on the court or two different things, You know what I'm saying.
And until we see this play itself out, hopefully you know, Kyrie has matured.
E don't see it based on his comments because his comments are very current.
We'll see. We will see.
Imagine if Harden would have ended up there.
Uh uh, that would be, but it so isn't so.
So isn't Nash the coach for the next? Yes.
Who's the cultural next? You said it e mean he respects Nash A.
Yeah, but he undermined it by saying, you know, we're gonna coach by committee.
You? Yeah, but according Thio Dominic, right? He's saying that he made that comment before Nash was hired.
I don't remember the timeline.
You okay? You're undermining the coach, right? Because they were going to hire a coach regardless, Mhm.
It's not like we're gonna We're gonna We're gonna have a player coach, like, you know, Kyrie is gonna be the player coach, join our players.
Excuse me a minute.
Listen, that's gonna want to be a little broad, James of that.
Listen, he had his opportunity to prove himself to be as great.
Or Greeneville LeBron.
When LeBron left Cleveland for Miami, and then it was Irish team and they dunk.
E, they were trash.
Yeah, And then when he went to Boston, he was going to an upstart team and it hurt the chemistry.
Yeah, Didn't better.
They played better without him.
So, you know, super talented, But without this guy, he's got a lot of growing up to do.
Yeah, definitely has a lot of growing up to Dio and it z questionable where it's like how, you know, at this point, like, how long has it been, like, 2014? I feel like 2015.
He came into the league around then, um, so, yeah, it's like, you know, you gotta You gotta kind of assurance of that role if you wanna.
If you actually want to be a leader on a team, Um, you know, if you actually wanna have control of a team the way he wants to Um, yeah, he's gonna have toe.
He's gonna have toe make that maturity.
You know, the thing is, you know, this is what happens with a lot of point guards that air young in the league when they don't have a mentor.
Meaning another veteran who they respect on the bench plays the same position is that and can show them the way off how you win.
Yes, you could put stats all you want but winning.
And, you know, team chemistry is another level off leadership that's required within a point guard.
And he's never had that veteran behind him whispering in his ear.
Listen, Kyrie, do this set this guy up.
You're gonna see that he's gonna pay off in the fourth quarter for you.
Hey, So maybe maybe Steve Nash is the guy now he's a coach.
You need a guy that, you know, a contemporary that can play on the floor.
Yeah, OK, I'll give an example.
So if I don't know if you follow Chauncey Billups.
So Chauncey Billups is one of these guys.
If if he was in his, you know, at the tail end of his career right now and he was still in the league.
That's a guy that I would have on the bench behind Kyrie on and whispering.
And Kyron's here.
Listen, this is how you set your teammates up.
This is how you set yourself up? Well, for later in the game.
And if he doesn't listen, you bring him off the bench.
You bring in a chance of building off the bench to show Kyrie and carry sitting on the bench to show courage.
This is how you set up your teammates.
He's never had that.
Ironically enough, Rondo would be a great concept.
The Nets missed out on him.
Yeah, they should have brought him in.
He needs somebody like that.
That's gonna help trade young tremendously.
Oh, you got mixed in the house.
What's up? What's up? What's up? You wait.
So hold on, hold on.
Yeah, I was talking about you're talking about the LeBron what you're talking about.
We were talking about Kyrie.
We didn't talk about the LeBron Kyrie thing.
We're just talking about Kyrie.
Yeah, I mean, I think I think you need some light up in their Dominican ****, man.
You see, your shadow.
I'm gonna go, you chattel.
Yeah, Yeah, I could keep talking about you know what? We want to hear what you gotta say.
Well, I didn't know what I don't know.
What exactly you guys were saying? Is that better? Yeah, much better.
No, we were saying that Kyron's super talented.
Okay, super talented.
Unfortunately, he's not a good leader.
He's a tremendous point card.
He's not a pure point card.
He's a scoring point card.
And as the result of that, it doesn't help his team win whenever he's had that kind of position.
He had the opportunity in Cleveland after LeBron left to Miami when he went to Boston.
He was supposed to be that missing piece in Boston to take him to the next level, and it just hurt the chemistry.
And now he went to Brooklyn.
The first thing that he says during the last season was they need to upgrade the roster in public to the media, which undermines your teammates.
So that didn't help the team on.
And then before Nash, you know, even coaches his first game, he said, Look, way, don't need a coach.
We can coach by committee on Well, here's up with.
Well, here's the thing.
Here's the thing I don't think you need to be like.
I don't think you need to be a great leader to be a great player.
I think that he is the third or second best point guard in the league, and I think that if that Nets team is healthy, um, there will be the best team in the East.
I also think that Kyrie looks at life very different from everybody in the world.
Yeah, so it's kind of one of those things where, like like and I said this in the stream and I was like, uh, he said that before Nash kind of got hired, like I think it b'more appalling to me if you said, Oh, we don't need a coach and Nationals already hired and is the national like so like Nash knew what he was going into.
You know, I think and I think Kyrie will like, I think, national help Kyrie a lot and as being um, or true point guard than he is now, because that's what he's gonna have to be with K D unless because unless they run sets in different liners with Katie out and then Kyrie gonna have to score.
But with Kite with Katie and Carter on the same floor together, he's gonna have to be that you point guard.
And I think he will because Steve National help him.
Ah marched out of Myers on that coaching staff.
Dirk might be on that coaching staff Mike D'Antoni on that coaching staff.
So I think I think Kyrie has shown like Kyrie in Boston.
That wasn't good.
Kyrie had no one in Cleveland to really hope with him.
Besides, obviously LeBron um s o.
But to be you don't need to be a great leader to be a great en NBA player.
I mean, e three.
I don't think you have to be a great leader toe be a great NBA player, but I think you have to be a great leader if you wanna have, like, success.
Well, here's the thing.
Here's the thing that's that's championships.
I was I was talking about this to earlier is like I don't think I don't think I re gonna get one without LeBron and like, if he is, he's gonna go.
He's gonna have to go through LeBron, and if he does that, then I took the hat off to him.
But, like right now, I just put Correa's probably top 10 and one of the greatest point guards of all time.
And simple is that that I'm a duke.
I love Kyrie like Kyrie is my guy.
I just know he just he just looks at life differently and I've accepted it.
And I think if that next team is healthy, it's a lot of that za lot of deuces to score 40 on that team live Kyrie Kyrie just kind of seems to me like Like I mean, almost like a Dennis Rodman level of just like a wild card, like it's like it could be.
It could be the week before the finals, and Kyrie decides that he's retiring from basketball.
You know, something like that.
And he's just gonna like, you know, move toe like some random beat somewhere, you know, like how How is that kind of where Yeah, yeah, but I mean again, he he's hit one of the most clutch shots of all time.
He's got one of the best handles.
Oh, he's talented there's no debate that he's talented.
Yeah, we're not debating that.
He's not talented.
A problem of him talking bad about LeBron Just cause you don't have no chip without without LeBron, you don't got no LeBron so like you like you don't got that opportunity of getting to the finals.
Is that LeBron so? Like, the only thing that should come out your mouth is LeBron was this and this for me.
I accepted it like he's a big brother to me.
I don't want to hear.
That is the first time in my career I could give someone else the ball and they could hit like maybe, you know, maybe it's maturity going up the chat.
Maybe this is, uh, Katie and Kyrie can bond off there mutual disrespect or hatred of LeBron and of LeBron.
Yeah, they want to team up on get past him.
Yeah, and that z not gonna happen because the Nets don't have anybody to guard Anthony Davis.
So it Z Yeah, that's stuff that stuff right now, Kyrie is listed as 23 uh, 23 best player in the off the best point guards off all time.
No, there's not 23 point guards. Better than him. Better.
Steve Magic Johnson, Oscar Robinson, Stephan Curry.
Thomas John Stockton, Steve Nash, Bob Cousy, Jason Kidd.
What? Fraser Allen Iverson, Gary Payton, Chris Paul, Nate Archibald, Derrick Rose, Tony Parker, Lenny Wilkens.
They've been Chauncey Billups, Dennis Johnson, Russell Westbrook and some dude named Lafayette Lever A afternoon Hardaway.
And they even got you know who they got? They got white John Rondo.
Well, e guess so in terms of scoring, anyway, so yeah, well, they got Stephon Marbury also, and Stefan was good, and they even got Tom Wall at 40 to listen.
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I'm taking Kyrie over stuff.
That is Johnson before before Kyrie.
I'm thinking you won three championships.
You wanna Dennis Johnson? Yeah, with on and with the Warriors.
The San Francisco Dennis Johnson was over there, out west before Jack Sigma and those boys.
I don't know about those.
I don't know about that list.
That's before your time.
Yeah, yeah, Whoever did that, Dennis Johnson is not better than Kyrie.
Okay, How can you say that you don't know.
You didn't know you were born.
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Kyra gave him for that one.
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There's no debate, a meaning that it translates into wins.
That's the point.
And you said it best.
There is no championship for Kyrie without LeBron.
It's about winning.
It's about winning.
It's about it was the definition.
What's the definition of winning? So, like if they're the first seed and there it No, no, no, no.
If they're the first seed and they go and they win, they win the east right and they meet LeBron in the finals and lose.
Is he still a winning point guard? Understand? I'm saying he's got to do it consistently.
All right? You can't do it.
He can't do a one off.
He's got to do it consistently.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
LeBron has been in the Final Four E re Kyrie in order for him to prove that he's a winning player.
Forget about point.
Ah, winning player.
He has toe win consistently.
It doesn't necessarily mean that he has to win championships every single year, but he has to take his team and have a winning.
Hey has helped with K d.
He has complicated.
We gotta see they gotta do it.
Not just this season.
Next season, in a few more season.
And then you're talking about a winning player, though, is Alan Watkinson? Is Alan Iris in a winning player? Yeah, they won games they want, But when the lady who was more ever cancer Allen Iverson, listen, they won game.
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Okay, I'm just saying that Anderson on that man on that on that list.
Alan Robinson, Ally, ever since the top 10 point guard on that list that he just named off and he has no rings, he has no rings.
Right? So we're putting and Kyrie has one.
And Al and Kyrie, I think a better point, He probably better point guard than Alan rival Alain Robbe.
Don't live person.
You really look at it.
He's probably better point guard than Allen Allen Iverson.
So therefore, that list I just don't see a Uh huh.
As players who have rains who are not good players.
It's not just about it's not just about ranks.
You could say it look longer.
He was a flight.
He's not looking.
It is not about direction.
Yeah, you're right. You're right.
You're right. But we're talking about winning.
Way winning, winning, winning with Alan Iverson.
That was literally him.
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They were not that great of a outside of him.
Hey, will them to the finals on his own back.
Like Kyrie Kyrie in my eyes, isn't it? Yeah.
The league is a little different now, but okay, it is.
I mean, I don't think and I don't think you could take that team now with like if you want to match the talent that that team had.
And this now, this era I don't think that team would make the playoffs.
So like it, it's different eras, different teams, but right.
But listen, Kyrie, Kyrie Kyrie has never taken any team anywhere.
Hey, actually, he killed the chemistry.
They did a lot for my the Celtics, the Celtics.
They ended up playing better without him without Yeah, he might not be a winning player yet, but like, it's okay.
It's okay to be a great to it is okay to do that.
It is okay to be like that.
It's okay to be ah, great to it.
Like like Scott Iwas.
Like Kobe was for shock.
Like it's okay to do that.
Well, does you believe that? I think with K d.
He does because he actually respects K.
I think you will see a D that he respects LeBron.
So I don't know.
I don't think he wants to be set can to anybody, but he may.
He made choose to do that with Katie, and that's fine.
If he does that, then that's maturity on his level.
And I'll give him that again.
I think he's talented, man, If you asked me if I wanna point guard in the mode of a Kyrie in terms of talent is skill.
Handle shot, you know, killer instinct.
But if you're asking me because he win, if you asking me, can he lead a team? You know Does he have the maturity? The head t know how toe Turn it on When he needs to turn it on and also get his players involved his team is involved I have to question it but that's just being honest.
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Yanis Yanis is not even like Yeah be honest is like I Yannis is literally just like you have toe You have to just let him do whatever he is going to do with that team because he is so special that you can't even categorize it as any other kind of player.
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That Z that you do your job or you changed decisions that you honestly, this is not the point guard.
That's not his job.
My honest, my honest com brought up bringing him up with a different conversation.
So But with Kyrie, though, Um, I think right now you don't start a team with Kyrie.
Kyrie is part of the team.
You start whoever you want to start your team with.
You understand what I'm saying, like and I think that z fine. That's okay.
Like I don't think that he's one of those.
I don't think he's one of those.
He's just not that person that you could lead a lead a team with, and that's fine.
Like, you know, it might not be like a leader, but I think he's a winning player, though I think he like.
We'll do what it takes to win.
Like like he wasn't leading Boston.
One player like he wasn't leading Boston was because, like leadership had a role.
But he also wasn't playing good basketball, understand? I'm saying so like he still was still trying.
He was still trying a win.
He just played really bad.
So, um I think again, he's not a leader, but I think he's a winning player.
Questions guys have to do.
You know, uh, if you guys have thio like, put a team together, who is, like, from Give me a starting five and can give you 35 1 bench players.
If you're six, you have to do era.
You have to do error or right now, starting starting a team.
Who's playing right now? Miguel, you are 100.
I got How about this time? You first You go. Point go.
Point guard point.
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We'll do a little.
We'll do a little draft.
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Yeah, the plane. Right now. Currently playing.
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Okay? You gotta pick your five.
And once you pick those.
Whoever you pick is off the roster.
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Um, so I get back to back picks and then we'll go.
OK, um I will pick.
Um Damian Lillard.
Yeah, I took my God.
I'll take Damian Lillard and I will take Devin Booker.
That's a that's a shooter.
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That's my everything.
You sure that's just that's just shooting guard.
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I'm giving him the boot.
You left out your man Chirico e o u with you.
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I would have picked him a game.
Dame falls into the category to me of Allen Iverson of, like, winning.
You could be a winning player without getting a with He's a I with leadership.
Yeah, you know what? So who just really I can't hear Gabriel shooting guard.
You I feel, uh I wanna go.
I wanna go. Jimmy Butler.
Yeah, I'm a random button.
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All right, We'll get back to you, Henry.
E got Thompson, man e got the Warriors, the Warriors guard.
I got Thompson, Curry and Thompson.
He's out for the season.
Yeah, but he's a player.
I mean, if he was good, you know, if he wasn't, you know, I'm thinking guys that are playing now.
Technically, he's not what hurt.
Technically, he's not.
He's gonna be out the entire season.
But you're not gonna pick another guy, right? You know, whatever you want, man.
As a shooting guard.
Um, Manu to Damian.
Who's out there? There's a really good shooting.
Look in the chat.
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Nobody picked him.
Nobody picked him.
There are a couple guys we're missing.
All right, I'm gonna go with Donovan Mitchell.
Think that their son Curry and Donovan Mitchell do? Uh oh, yeah.
I'll be putting hard.
Can you guys hear me? Yeah.
Yeah, I hear you, Ma.
So, Henry, your a seven years, a small forward figure. Small forward.
I got a small forward enough.
Yeah, but you didn't.
You didn't pick your shooting guard.
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That's a small lineup, man.
No, we'll get it done.
Oh, you're gonna get it done.
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Guys like Jimmy.
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Forward! Oh, the power forward.
Let me see in the East.
Oh, that's tough.
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Um, is is the next king.
Alright, so All right, so, um sure.
Why Europe? Henry? I know what I want.
Okay, I wanna go with Okay.
Right now, let me tell you who's gonna be.
Uh, LaMarcus Aldridge Top.
So are we flip? Are we flipping the centers? U turn? Are we looking like since we're flipping? Pick what? You could have a small team.
You have a tall team is up to you.
Give me Zion, man, Give me is a young man.
Yeah, that's a nice one.
That's a nice one, man.
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DeAndre Clayton e like that.
I like that. I like that.
Oh, man, you gotta be kidding me.
Me? Oh, Maybe I'm next.
Okay. Take a joke. I'm taking the joke. Joke. Lundin.
Okay, okay, so I'm thinking I'm taking the process.
I'm taking the process.
Uh, I'm very fast, all right.
That's your best player.
Remember, we got we got 1/6 man to pick.
Okay, Henry Europe.
Oh, I'm going with Mitchell Robinson there, my boy.
What boy? You're six Spaniards.
No, that's not That's my son of man.
Well, that's just son. My center man.
You're gonna be bumps.
City lob City east.
Um, my my centers, Karl Anthony towns.
Dude is all over the place.
E was gonna do bam.
I was gonna do bam out of by E, but I need I need shooting.
I need shooting.
I want my like, my big toe shoot.
So I like Karl Anthony towns.
I'm good, though.
Then you get you pick your sixth man, Ma.
My six. James Harden.
Are you gonna go hard? All right.
I'm gonna do this one for Dominic.
I'm gonna be Oh, I'm gonna go with you.
You don't even think you don't have selling yet gave you up.
Oh, you know the truth.
What's his name? Uh, And be six men.
I'm gonna have a six, man.
So this one's tough.
Honestly, this one's tough.
Yeah, I need time.
I'm gonna pick my sick man already.
I read E O magazine.
That's your best player.
He's e think about my team.
Think about my team.
Think about my team's best player.
I got Rondo there.
Rhonda is gonna be working them working is here.
Look, this is how you do it, baby.
Come on, get hurt.
Don't worry about that, man.
Don't worry about that.
You're You're laughing now, though? You ain't laughing.
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I'm gonna grab Todo and Ugo.
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I'm gonna have Thio go with, uh, I'm gonna have to go with Gray Young.
I'm gonna have to go with him.
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Heckman, Tyler Here.
Listen, uh, just blew up this year, you know, he's not a consistent necessarily, uh, all star, you know? Oh, he will.
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You you better also, man.
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Way back up for them.
I actually have to get going.
It was good. Yeah.
We'll be here all night.
You know something? I don't know.
Yeah, Let's see what happens tomorrow and after tomorrow night.
And we talked about how teams are looking. Yes.
Yeah, how I played. So that's good.
Hey, maybe we could do a fantasy league.
Yeah, yeah, maybe we'll figure it out. Yeah.
Alright, alright, alright, you sorry? Joint late.