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I know Nina is waiting.
And Gabriel, my cousin.
He said he was waiting, so I just I'm texting them just to just to make sure that they can get the link so they can log in.
Yeah, that last.
That last link that you said took me right in.
Right? Right, Because that's the one that brings you in as a co host.
So hopefully let's see, once they get in, we'll have them on board.
We have some viewers.
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What's up? How's it going? Gave what's up.
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I got plenty of Yankee stuff around, but you got You guys got me lost on the radio.
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As a matter of fact, we're going to start with you.
So when you feel like you're part of this, you're not gonna feel left out.
And so you know, But let me just introduce you to my other cousin.
He's from my father's side of the family.
That's Henry he's wearing.
The New York had just like me.
And of course, he's a big time make fan.
And then, you know you know my sister.
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One of my colleagues from work.
Hey, wanted to join in.
So I sent him the information.
Hopefully, he'll join us in a little while, and Nina send send the link to dominate because I sent them the previous link.
And that one only takes you to the page, but not necessarily to this broadcast that he sees live.
So good starters off, Gabriel.
Because I know you got a lot thio say about Washington, but I got the first question of the days.
So who's your daddy? E went thio Yankee Stadium in, like, 2009 of for the LDS against the twins we got when they won the Siri's.
But, I mean, I don't know right now, right now.
It's, you know, Russell Westbrook, I guess, Um oh, he's your daddy.
Okay, e a excited about it.
Really? When I first got announced, and I think it was mostly just like the, you know, nostalgia about John Wall and all that on I still love John Wall obviously.
And I e still think he's a great player.
Um, but I just think you know, the front office was just concerned with his last two years.
Like he just hadn't been on the hadn't been on the, you know, they wanted to clear up the S, so I don't know.
I don't know really what the plentiful also Westbrook is like if they plan on trying to give him a deal and, you know, keep him around for longer or what? But I mean, he's obviously still, you know, I think he's still a pretty good player.
And, um, you know, I'm gonna be great for the fan base of nothing else.
And, um, yeah, great for great.
For just attention, I guess.
And you know, him and him and Bradley Beal together, Um, probably aren't gonna be the worst combo.
Um, you know, that's the question.
That's the question that I have Is that was there something, you know, behind the scenes that maybe we nobody heard about some friction between him and Bill, like, you know.
Whose team is it? Yeah.
I mean, I don't know, really.
I think you know, they had been closed.
I know they had been closed just based on interviews that they had given on John Wall, like personally talking about their relationship like, I think when when John Wall lost his mother, um, on, like Bradley Beal was one of the first people to, like, go console him about that.
And, you know, it just seemed like they had a pretty genuine connection.
At least you know this.
It could have, I guess, faded at some point over the last year to just given how little John Wall had been around, maybe or whatever.
You know, if they feel like he's distancing himself from the team, But I don't know.
I mean, you know, overall, like people in D. C.
Love John Long always going to on, uh, you know, whenever you know, fans are allowed back to arenas and stuff and rockets come to play in D.
I'm sure, John. Well, we'll get a standing ovation.
Uh, so I mean, yeah, you know, I'm still I'm still pretty pretty heartbroken, I guess, to see you just because he's been around for so long.
You know, just, you know, again, that just nostalgia, like they drafted in 2010 s.
So it's just it's, uh, it really, you know, it hurts.
It hurts, but we'll get over it So whose team is it? Bradley meals.
Or I think right now it's It's bills.
You know, just given his experience with the team, like rust.
There's obviously a start.
Uh, but, you know, I think I think Bill just has a good thing going with the team.
And he got absolutely snubbed last year, Um, in terms of the All Star loathe to the All Star game, but, um, yeah, like 30 points a game.
You know, you can't, uh I can't deny that, and I don't think you can.
You can try and take that away from him.
So I hope that there's no tension between him and Russ.
Um, and I hope they could work something out, But in my eyes, I think it's, you know, it's bills right now.
Just because he's he's the guy, you know.
He's the guy on the team, right? And he's younger, of course.
So you know he's the next marquee player.
Russell, although he's still in his prime, you know, he's already got a few years on him, so he's got to come in as a support to Bill and hopefully be able to blend in with him.
The one thing that you may get with breast off Westbrook is that he's healthier.
Being that on and Wall coming off of a Achilles was an Achilles injury.
That's that's a serious was serious injury.
It will be interesting to see how explosive he will or will not be with Houston.
And maybe that's the thinking in terms of the front office.
Yeah, you know, I think that's what it is.
I think they just in their eyes is like, you know, we love John Wall, but at the end of the day, you know, it's it's a business decision for them, and they have to do you know what's best financially, you know, a certain level.
So when you have a guy, please, I didn't even know how many games he played over the last two seasons, but it can't be over, You know, 40 when you haven't got just, you know, sitting on the bench.
How does it is? You know? Yeah, he's just sitting on the bench for the whole season, and you're paying him more money than anyone else on the team.
It's like you gotta you gotta reconsider some things at some point So I think that's what it came down to for them.
And they were just like, we've kind of, you know, more or less wasted enough time, kind of waiting for him to be back at his full potential when we could, you know, go out and get something for form.
And and that's what they did.
Ah, you have a fan in the chat.
Who says, you know, we will always be way love him, so, yeah, I don't know.
You're not alone here.
I'm not. I'm not.
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So we you know it zits strong.
You know, like we're really you know, d c is always gonna love this is always gonna love her.
Well, e think Russell Westbrook is going toe help you forget about him.
I think so, too.
Honestly, you know, I was looking at just some of the teams like social media today, and they had just some clips of Russell, um, you know, coming in.
And they had, like, a few practice clips and stuff, and, um you know, You know, I'm not I'm not going to say I'm not going to say I'm disappointed about it.
Really? Like he You know, he's still he's still a great player.
And so, um, yeah, I once once, we get the regular season rolling, and I think once we get to see him and deal in action, um, people, people are probably gonna get over that pain.
They're not gonna forget about John Long, but they're gonna get over the pain a little bit quicker, right? Right.
Nina, any thoughts? I know your wheels attorney so far away.
You know, I mean, I think Westbrook is is a phenomenal athlete.
Um, I just don't You know, I just don't see it.
Yeah, I'm not a fan.
And that was my gut reaction, You know, not a fan off Westbrook.
He just He's a triple double machine triple bubble machine.
He does more than any other player on the court that neither the war you warm number one.
Anything, either. Either.
I think that the best players to play with you can't win.
Yeah, that's the thing.
I think I think that, like Russ is obviously, you know, like, like obviously like an incredible job.
Yeah, like he's obviously an incredible athlete.
And the, you know, the production is obviously they're like in terms of the triple doubles, like you could look at his stats, but But what you're saying about, you know what you're saying about he does more than anyone else in the court, like back and sometimes be.
The problem is that he's trying to literally just do too much, you know, like you watch him in the playoffs and he's just like, you know, like they It's like possessions late in the game where they need to score.
And Russ is just flying all over the court like trying to do literally everything.
And it's like, just settle down, settle down and run a play or something.
That's not Yeah, no.
So that it's not exactly.
And that you know that that was my gut reaction.
Honestly, um, is that you know, and I still hope that, you know, when I was talking about earlier that it's feels team in my eyes.
I hope that Russell does come in and just try to do way too much and take the ball out of bills, hands and, um, and just kind of bleed everyone else on the court, you know? Stop Brooks.
You know Scott Brooks? He had been in O k. C.
Right? You know, he was his coach in O k.
When he first came up, No eso he might be able to get in his ear about, You know, this is a new situation for you.
Let's tryto make something happen, just like we had back in O K.
When? When they almost went toe the second round, right? Yeah, when he had home.
And when he had the rats And, uh, yeah, but that was the organizational decision to give up harder was not hardened in those days.
By the way, it was 1/6 man.
He wasn't six man back then.
But, you know, at the same time, you gotta thank you.
Gotta think he was six, man.
I mean, I just remember watching, you know? Yeah.
I mean, he was a six Magal.
I just remember 2012 watching, you know, the end of the finals against the heat and just thinking like, you know, those three guys like they're gonna be back.
You know, like, you know, they're gonna be back soon, and yeah, just didn't panned out.
That that will always be, I think, one of the biggest what ifs, um, is what if, uh, keep it will be hard and had stayed together together on the thunder.
Oklahoma City might have been celebrating our championship.
Yeah, seriously, At least one. Yeah.
I mean, they you gotta think, you gotta think they would have had, at least absolutely, you know, even with LeBron with in the way, even with LeBron in the league, like, you gotta think they would have had at least one. Absolutely.
But that's not the way things go.
And actually, that's one thing I wanted.
So, um, I was thinking about earlier when guys would come on this I know public.
Like I just introduced topic I got.
It's what? Um, okay.
It's not like, I guess what you don't like before, you know, issue or non issue, I guess depending on how you see it of, like, superstar players, just like deciding to go wherever they want, you know? And there's kind of like, I guess, like a contingency now of people who say like that it's a problem.
How Superstars just decided to go.
Like, you know, they're just bullying teams and, like, hard and now apparently requesting a trade with, like, I think, almost like three or four years left on his deal.
Like like with an option.
So it'd be, like four years left on his deal.
And so people are kind of like questioning.
I guess what? You know, the future of the league is gonna be if guys, we're just gonna start bullying front offices.
Uh, you know, get them out of there if they want. Thio.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, it's a new era.
I mean, in years past, in prior generations, it was very, very rare where you have superstars dictate where they would end up.
You know what I mean? If they weren't happy given franchise, you know, trying to get management to actually trade into another team.
What what happened in the past would be a superstar player will get a coach fired.
That was very common dab magic, it magic.
When he was with the Lakers, he didn't like Paul West full on.
As a result of that, he work this, you know, channels behind the scenes to get him fired.
And ultimately Pat Riley became the head coach there.
So that was mawr, the common type of practice back in the day.
But things have changed in this era.
You know, now, because you have a lot of players that they've learned how to use leverage to their advantage.
And as a result of that, you have the hardens of the world or other players that also, and even Westbrook.
I think that was whispers out there that Westbrook wanted Thio trading.
It didn't just happen by chance.
You know, franchises.
They're gonna comment.
You ask David in it.
My 80 right? Well, back in the day if I make time in there being the the organization's used to trade away players as they pleased, you know, like if it was whatever was beneficial for the team and even star players would get traded to other teams after they've been, you know, they were past their prime.
Or at least the organization felt that they were past their prime.
And one of those such cases was, well, Frasier.
He was the face off the Knicks.
He took them to those championships and he got traded to the Cleveland Cavaliers.
Really? For they being another old dude just like that, s o.
I mean, the script has been flipped at this point, you know, it's a business.
That's the reality of it.
That's one thing I learned in my many years following the game, uh, specifically more so when I used to work at Madison Square Garden, I went in there with a purist mind at heart thinking, You know how pure the game, being there at the professional level at the college level.
And that's when I realized a It's big money.
There's a lot of money at stake.
Both sides have a lot, you know that they want to get out of it.
And if it doesn't work for one party or the other, they're going to try to force a trade or or team is going to try to trade a player.
Yeah, it's just it's just the nature of the beast, E.
I think to your point, um is that is killing the small markets, though.
That's Yeah, Oklahoma, Houston, You know, like if he leaves there what? They don't wanna have anything for the next 10 years.
Yeah, at least this way they at least make it to the playoffs.
Yeah, Yeah, you know, it, Z I I think it's ah, it puts guys like, um, you know, I guess like John is, for example, or just other guys like that who are kind of, like stand out players on their teams.
Um, it kind of puts them in a weird position where I feel like, you know, maybe guys wanna guys want to go into the league and kind of stick it out with one team, like the whole time and just kind of, you know, earn their way to a championship on one team.
Or maybe some guys, you know, Do you just wanna bounce around or whatever, But, um, for the guys that you wanna, you know, just take like the Kobe or out play 10, 15 years for one single team and try to win a few championships again, it makes it I got too tough for them.
Um, you know, when you just you look around and you see people just going, you know, to whatever team they please in the off season and teams winning championships out of nowhere.
And, um, Dynasty is being built out of nowhere, so yeah, I don't know it.
It definitely it it changes the It's something I guess can change the landscape of the league really, really quickly for just over 90.
So what do you think? In terms of the Knicks, what do you think? What do you see? You know, in terms off the coaching changes fundamental changes the team as it is right now.
Impressed, not impressed.
Yeah, I've been I'm gonna crack.
I'm a diehard Nick fan, Right? And I've been so disgusted with my team e don't know, eight years, okay? It's been horrible.
It that z eso, but by the way, I have a delayed from my end.
So, like, I see you guys moving, I see your mouth moving.
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S o E does enjoy all the teams Thio, boy heartbreak that the Knicks have put me through This'll year plan on following because they make No, you go.
I think every going like this and I see that gave him wanted to say something.
I gotta delay from my aunt.
So I'm sorry that gave I was just going to say I mean, I feel like saying something.
Game the next, the next Do you have, like, draft picks going for them and that it has been ableto like ac***ulate a lot of, like up and coming stars out of college over the last few years.
Like guys like Dennis Smith.
I mean, e, they didn't draft him.
But R J Barrett, like e mean millikin is not bad, obviously, like overseas pick.
But, um e mean, they just I don't know what it is with them, you know, and you look at their roster and it's like they should be able to produce something out of this.
But, um, yeah, I don't know.
As an outside observer, it just seems like a year after year, you just want he just watched him like, you know, confusion.
It is's confusing, so I personally and personally don't see anybody beating the Lakers anytime soon. E.
Could Greek freak ended up being there for the next season.
We're done Lakers Got it way.
Might as well just give it up.
Basketball is over.
That is the team.
No one's gonna beat that team.
There's just nobody is gonna be this freaking t e can't see how anybody is gonna be beat LeBron 80.
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What's that Got Pope Pope Guy.
What's his name? Conserve.
IUs can save you.
Start talking about Yeah, they got, they said, tries to mantra is from the Clippers.
Well, what? Greek freak? Yeah, it's not.
That's his brother between 21.
Well, we're talking about right now, right now.
Not supposed to Nothing until they sign the contract.
There's no final deal.
He's been walking.
Guys don't get it. Get it. Don't get it.
Twisted me walking.
Okay, all right.
Now what's the What's the What's the roster? Look it up.
What's the What's the his younger brother on the team? Your brother? It sounded telecom pose.
Brother is with the Lakers.
He didn't even play last year.
He wasn't a bubble large.
Nothing. It's his.
Twitter is his brother.
It's his brother.
Not Don't worry about Yeah, but his brother.
No, he's not going there.
Right? I think it would have been over.
Yeah, yeah, but no, he's not.
There is not a good thing in a box.
He's still in the box.
I'm like, No, he had a good thing with what's going over there.
It is not you Leave it alone.
You can breathe.
You can breathe.
Okay, so that's not the case.
I still like them.
E like the devil Like it's a joke of it.
E Like that team that fundamental basketball.
But washing the nuggets in the playoffs.
So it made It made no sense to me.
Like how Yokich is ableto like score points or anything in the paint, Like I mean, his phenomena bility First off is one thing.
Like, he can actually I mean, he's a lights out three point shooter, like, you know, you'll be watching some games and any sinks like five in the first quarter, but, um, inside the like it down low, it's scoring down low.
It does not make sense to me at all.
because you see him with the ball, and he just has, like, some of the most awkward looking footwork I've ever seen.
And I guess it just, like, kind of makes sense for someone with his size.
But he just kind of like, you know, stumbles around, like, underneath the basket and then throws the ball up and it goes in.
But yeah, the Nuggets, the Nuggets make it work.
I get 111 pickup, actually, by the Lakers this offseason that I think is really good.
Um, Dennis, Traitor or Schroeder from the Atlanta Hawks? Well, he was okay.
See, he was in O k c o.
He was Yeah, he got traded to.
Okay, so he was with Chris.
And he over the last couple of years has been developing its like, a really, really special player.
And I think like the Lakers, LeBron will figure something out.
They'll figure out a good role for him, and, um, yeah, I think he's a point guard.
He's gonna be a He was a big fan of you.
He got in his game after Rondo, but he has a more consistent perimeter shot.
They got Marcus sold to Yeah.
Uh, the other guys and not so great.
They still got Yeah, charisma.
They should repeat, they should rebuild.
So they they got Alex Caruso.
You know, barring any injuries because, you know, anybody looks good on paper until you get on the floor and you can stay on the floor.
Look at the Clippers, the Clippers.
Everybody would say, There there seem to be.
Then they have chemistry issues.
Golden State before they have those breakdowns in the finals.
They were the team to be, but the injuries going up to them.
So, yes, the Lakers looked like the team to be, But we have to let it play out because injuries can change anything.
And for the time could also catch up with LeBron.
That's what I was about to say.
I was about to say, you know, 36 18, I think.
So, going into the 18th year? Yeah, like James Howard shouting out the Karoo show, but no.
Yeah, going into his 18th year.
I mean, that is crazy like that.
I don't I don't understand how he's still able Thio, I guess just, like take over games the way he waas this year in the playoffs.
But we'll see, you know it could.
It could finally be the year where his age starts to show a little bit.
Um, but I don't know right now.
I mean, e I don't see it right now, but of course they haven't played a game.
But I I just think I like the Lakers because, you know, just going off of last year, I think that it was kind of, I mean, maybe a long shot for them to actually win the finals.
Like people thought they were definitely gonna cruise through the West, Probably.
But like, I don't know, I don't know if at the beginning of the year, if you think we're just like we're on an A d, um, That they could have automatically have been that much of a lock for the finals like, but, you know, just building off of that with all the pieces they've added this off season, I think they probably, um, in my in my eyes, I think the favorite studio, I think I think the shortest season Okay, e think the shortest season help, Mama? Yeah.
You know, I think the shortest season helped LeBron so that he was gonna stay okay or for the playoffs.
Um, but I was surprised by Miami.
So I want to see what happens to Miami.
That Zack, They're really I e didn't expect him to do that.
Yeah, and And they're just a team that, like, they're just a team that plays really, really well together and, like, you know, their their defense is is pretty locked down.
And the guy? Yeah, i e I think the I think they definitely surprised a lot of people on, but at the same time, you know, you got to keep in mind like you said the short season.
It helped a lot of teams that had heard a lot of teams like the bubble, you gotta think, Yeah, the bubble.
You gotta think the sons, you know, given the one that they went out in the bubble, you know, making it into the playoffs.
You know, what would they have been able to do with the full length season? So, um, you know, we'll have to see.
Yeah, hero hero is really good. And Jimmy.
Jimmy is a great leader.
Jimmy is a guy that's like he you know, he's not even.
He's kind of like the opposite of Russ.
You know, where he's just, like, doesn't care about his stats whatsoever.
Like, he's gonna pass, he's gonna rebound on.
But if he doesn't, if he doesn't get to shoot the ball, you know, more than five times in the first half, he doesn't really care as long as his teams up.
So, Henry, uh, talk to me.
You know, we got to give him a moment here.
You know his guts out about the Knicks.
So go ahead and do your thing.
I believe okay with one thing about that we can all agree about with the Knicks is that they can only get better.
They can only get better.
And the way that the idea off bringing in a defensive minded coach that is going to give them an identity, it's already a plus.
Then they drafting pretty well.
Okay, That is not one of these.
Like they picked Frank Nil.
Akina a head off Mitchell.
What's the day Donovan Mitchell? I saw I saw the tape of that today somewhere, and I saw Donovan Mitchell congratulating, frightening the key.
The way he got called up, I was like, only cow do***ent.
Mitchell was right there for us big.
But either way, this year with it wouldn't do too bad.
I don't think that there was too many mistakes with the draft.
And who knows if this guy will be similar to what Mitchell Robinson did for us, which was a find.
It was a second rounder.
Never played college, you know, state, Uh, hey.
Didn't even go to Europe.
He just worked out on his own, came into the Knicks, and he was a game changer.
You know, for excitement, man.
I mean, and and with a nice point guard, like quickly in their listen.
I'm looking forward to them playing all of these young guys and giving those young guys the opportunity to either sink or swim.
I think with this kid coming out of Kentucky, they might help knocks a little bit mhm, if not knocks.
Gotta get moved out, man.
Yeah, and let all these other guys play because we've given him two years to show what he's got so between him. Lucchino.
You know, im, You know, let me see some office that that coach make those guys play defense.
And I think that I got a good squad, man.
I got a nice squad coming in.
Then I got Toby all we want.
Cano b o r j Barrett Emmanuel quickly.
I saw some tapes of Julius Randle doing what stuff? Even though he disappointed me last year.
Okay, I'm looking for Austin Rivers to do a little work.
Andi, I got big bigness, man.
I love the way that kid worked out in the G league last year on.
I'm hoping that he gets the opportunity, man, because he's a He's like one of these.
What was it? The league you remember Lean when we had him a couple of years ago.
Oh, welcome, man.
It's just a hard work.
It gets in there and does all the dirty work, you know, whereas Randall just wants to take a shot and run the other way.
Yeah, so I mean, I think I agree, you know, with point about just getting the young guys out there and just seeing what they can do and I think, like you've seen a lot of teams try that out.
Like I have, you know, measurable success with, like, I think, you know, one example, I guess would be I think the Kings come to mind Sacramento that Yes.
I love what they do.
You know, like just trusting and deer and fox and trusting in the guys that they have.
Um, the sun e did it.
The sun's or another one, you know, bringing in eyes like, you know, obviously if Devin Booker started the show, but then bringing guys like Kelly were and stuff you try to build around these young guys and you don't you don't go after, um, guys that you're not, you know, kind of get that much production out of, I guess.
Um, so I I agree.
I think that, you know, honestly, that they have, you know, it's like you said, they can only go up from here.
So the the upside of that is, you know, it's obviously very high, but at the same time does take, like, a couple of seasons to develop.
You know that confidence and have the team gel together.
Um, but, you know, it's also I was gonna say, be funny, you know, it's gonna It's gonna be funny to see Austin Rivers kind of stepping in.
It looks like he's close toe one like the oldest guys on this roster.
Like he's gonna be stepping in tow like the veteran role veteran leader role on the Knicks roster with all these young guys.
So, yeah, it'll be.
It'll be really interesting.
What was that? Is he gonna be like Tatum from the Celtics? Do you think it be? Oh, no, no, no, no.
It would have been that already.
Know topping is gonna be like Tatum Tatum.
Time is a bucket.
Tatum is a bucket Tatum eight, um, is one of those guys that he's gonna be around for, you know, 10, 15 years, And you can see you can see him becoming like a you know, a legend in the MBA.
Honestly, take him.
Take him is a special player.
Yeah, and if he, you know, all Kobe passed away, he worked out with with Kobe s, so he picked up a lot of stuff from Kobe, and he's taking him into his game And now he's become, you know, a second version of Kobe In terms of the work that he's put into his game.
I think that he's Kobe.
But the work that Kobe put into his game, that's what freedom is trying todo Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, He's gonna be Who's the leader? So, Henry, who's the leader in the mix? Who is the leader? Uh, Coach, the coach is the leader on the next.
Yes, Uh, there is no big guys a little use.
Okay, Uh, what they really need is for for dinner Smith, Jr Thio develop or, you know, you know, like they say she don't get or get off the pot, you know, because if not quickly, should be put right into that situation.
You know what my starting five is? I got quickly R J.
Barrett topping Randall and ignorant press desk keys.
That's my starting 50 did I leave out Mitchell Robinson? I'm sorry, fellas. I'm sorry.
RJ and Emmanuel quickly e.
I agreed with four out of five of your starting five.
You have to He hasn't come off the bench.
Peyton used the guy that that knows how.
Thio bench quickly, quickly the rookie nature.
He's gotta earn his minute and he's gonna learn the league, and he's great coming off off off the bench because he's still got to learn the game, the NBA game.
I'm not saying that he's not a good player, but again, there's a transition.
And you're not just gonna come into the league and be ableto just Yeah, but did you say that? Did you say that about about this kid from from Atlanta last year? Oh, we got a win.
It's gotta be, You know, it just blew up.
He's not the same time.
It is not the same, you know? It takes a it s a little guy.
So it's a little thing, you know? I think it takes a It takes a really special player to be able to come in.
Yeah, straight out of college.
And even be able to keep up.
Honestly, you could be able to keep up with the game, you know? Okay, I'm glad that we have in this conversation because I hope that he changes a lot of minds, you know, on this platform, e I'm hoping for him and that, you know, he proves Toby, because remember, he's, uh he's played a couple of years on the Calipari, so, you know, it's not like he's ah, one and done.
Yeah, it that came out of college.
He's coming out with some experience, even though he's a little bit of a, you know, a little under wait.
You know, he doesn't have ah, MBA body, But again, neither did the kid from Atlanta, right? Well trained Young was, was you know, he was hated the guy.
He was the guy on his team.
He came in having that kind of responsibility.
Yeah, he had that kind of responsibility.
We question what kind of MBA body he had to be able to compete at the MBA and obviously, his work for him. That's the exception.
That's not the rule this quickly.
He's solid player, but I don't think he can feel those shoes coming into the N B A.
If anything, I will start painting because Peyton already knows the team, those people up and then you bring in a quickly behind them E absolutely, you know, being groomed potentially as a future point guard, But I wouldn't.
I wouldn't start him. He's not ready.
Not ready to run a team, right? Not at this level.
But they also have Austin Rivers as a point guard. Yeah.
Yeah, that's another fact.
I think I think that someone that you wanna have kind of as like a mentor for these young guys just because of, like, his playoff experience.
And he's just, you know, he's been around forever.
Yeah, he's just He's just a great guy to have around, I think.
Especially when you have all these young guys on the team.
You know, you need some kind of Cem leadership, and you're probably not going to get that, Like, you know, Michael, you're good.
Michael, cute or whatever. Yeah.
Or Nerlens Noel because, um but yeah, you know, you know, they gotta want Omari Spellman to.
Those guys are pretty good.
I mean, their players, they got skilled.
Let's kill players.
Villanova is one of those programs that, you know, they produce guys that air that essentially game ready again.
Another four year guy, Omari Spellman.
That's a good thing because you bring it in, guys that a little bit more, you know, experienced more mature as opposed to a one and done.
You know, you don't know what you're gonna get.
High risk, high reward.
But with these four year players, at least you get good, good, solid, You know, glue.
God, that can help stabilizing locker room and potentially be a solid play in the N B, if not, you know.
Ah, Potential start.
Yeah, I agree. Yes.
Listen, man, he said the coach says everybody's gonna have to earn their minutes.
Should be So So I'm looking forward.
Toa that I 10 man rotation.
Listen, I go 15, man.
Oh, everybody, listen, that's the way I mean, you know, I know I'm going to an extreme, but the reality is this.
If you have such a young squad on, you wanna put the premium on defense? You make sure that folks get minutes.
Not everybody's gonna get the same amount of minutes, but at least you're getting in and getting them game gaming experience.
And also you create good habits.
Hey, good habits.
Otherwise, right now, we can't expect them to be a playoff team.
You know development.
They gotta show levels of improvement throughout the season.
Yeah, there's a the seven.
What is it? 87889 and 10, 78 19.
E was thinking that this year the playoff, the format is that the last 789 and 10 are going to be playing in for the eighth spot.
Yeah, or the 89 from the 10th, you know, in the standings will be for the 85 like a plane round robin game.
Yeah, that's what they did in the bubble.
They did that in the bubble.
That's how Portland got in on in Phoenix, although they want every game.
They just came up short, right? That's that's That's terrible, right? You win all your games and you don't make it.
That's pretty bad.
But somebody had a better record than them.
That's that's what happened.
Okay, the eso so So winning all those games meant nothing to them.
You have been playing this game for that? No.
Well, yeah, but they got experience out of it, okay? That's a young team.
That Phoenix team is gonna be a team to watch now, because now they have three, they got Chris Ballinger.
Hey, knows how to set people up.
And then he got that shooting guard.
Man, that kid is he's the truth.
Yeah, he really is.
And then you were gonna say some thing.
Is he here? Another Kentucky guy? E Think you're ready? Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm following.
What was that? Nina, You have a bad delay.
You need to connect it.
Even that cable Thio.
There's a lot of delay from my M.
Yeah, Yeah, next time I will.
Yeah, because you're using your WiFi and it's not reliable, but Henry e can't see any past or anything, because it slows me down further.
I gotta I can't see any stacks or teams right now, because otherwise my internet, that slows down even further.
E you're saying? Yeah.
10 man rotation of the Knicks is what you're saying.
So, like, so you don't see them, you know, making the playoffs anytime soon.
They could come in.
They could be the ninth or the 10th team in the east.
But I think what? What? They were ninth last year.
Remember? Where That I can't remember where they finished trying to say Okay.
Yeah, I wanna I wanna answer James in the shot.
I don't think the calves will make a run a Detroit All destroy cats or Detroit.
I'm not gonna make it.
Is this can experience, man.
Is he really saying he just throwing stuff out there to be a come on? E, come on.
E his his opinion about magic.
I agree with his opinion about E.
I agree about the green Mama commentary, but the Cavs Come on, man.
Who is this K? Are you for real? He's just say stuff, man.
Can't take him serious.
Let me see who's gonna be. Who's gonna be.
But going back to what you were saying earlier, though, but next having a tender jokingly a 15 team, a 15 minute rotation.
Um, but I fully agree, you know, I think that's what they have to do right now.
And especially in a season like this, where you know, it's not like you're trying Thio.
You know, it's not like you're trying to make the playoffs.
You're not trying to make a run right now or anything like that.
You're just trying to see what you can dio you know when as many games as you can.
Just trying to figure out what you wanna do for for your roster moving forward. Yeah, exactly.
But as long as you know right now, when you don't even have set five and rotation.
Yeah, I think absolutely.
You got to be getting You have to be, uh, trying out as many guys as you can, and you have to be having a really deep bench.
And if anything else, you know, it'll just, I guess keep the guys on the bench which competitive and keep everyone engaged.
And, um yeah, you know, I just created good morrell.
I think that was a good coach.
And I think out of a bunch of young guys like that, like he should be able to get something, you know? And the thing about it is when you play that many players and again 15 and see extreme.
But if you play, if you expand your roster, that means you could be that much more aggressive defensively because you can't worry about trouble using players, and you're, you know, is still in good habits be a great you're not worried about foul trouble, and you're also you're not.
You're not overworking guys, so it's not, you know, You say you tell everybody listening.
You're going to give five minutes every quarter.
That's it s so you will bust your behind when you get out there on defense.
And left the office come off for the defense.
And if And if you don't play hard, Okay, we got next.
Next man up is gonna come in, and they're gonna play for those minutes.
You don't want those minutes? Yeah, exactly.
Tried to create that sense in the locker room.
And what then you were gonna so I mean, I'm all about defense.
I could appreciate somebody's got to score.
So some there's our rhythm shooters.
So how you gonna How some of these players about rhythm shooter's gonna get the timing is only gonna be on the court for five minutes in the second advantage.
Well, again, you know where we're being facetious.
That they were gonna get five minutes, but you're gonna have your rotation, and then you build around your rotation, you get guys you may not play every every, You know, every guy in every single game.
But you could You can alternate from game to game.
You have your starting five, and then you work from there the rest of your roster.
That's that's the way you think about that.
I don't think they even established starting five or anything like that.
We're playing tomorrow night, folks.
Where is the starting five? Who is it? Let me see.
Let me see. Way.
The only disagreement is quickly, um, you know, because you chose quickly.
Look at that. They do have already.
Are they? Barry O B topping Julius Randle Randle Mitchell Robinson on uh, And Alfred.
Peyton, there was your starting five is official.
Well, this is what I got here.
Looking at the New York Knicks death shot.
So the starters are Elfrid Payton, R J.
Barrett, Obi Topping, Julius Randle and Mitchell Robinson.
Mama, I really liked that guy.
I really like that guy.
Topping it's gonna be awesome is gonna be awesome.
Yeah, And then in the second, the second they're talking about the Latina birds, Reggie Bullock.
Now that's wrong.
I was good coming off the bench, and he's a defensive guy.
So he's gonna be good to push Mitchell Robinson and coming off the bench.
Awesome. Rivers is hurt.
Is he a day to day? Yeah.
Okay, Kevin Knox.
The third is the third rotation.
He's not even not even coming up.
Eventually the first rotation.
You know your friend James.
How? Yeah, he asked the question about Lemelle.
Oh, yeah, James Brother, a break up about the melon ball.
What do you guys think about the melon ball? No.
What do you think? You know, that's That's another interesting case, like, uh, just in turn, in terms of the Charlotte Hornets, where they kind of have a mix of like, younger guys Davonte Grandma loved at Kansas Leak Monk.
And then they got like, Terry Gordon Hayward, um, and then bringing in Lamela's So, um, Miles Bridges.
Obviously, uh, I honestly don't know.
I think out of the three ball brothers, I honestly think I see the mellow having the most upside Really? E.
I mean, you know, just because I and I guess I haven't seen him play that much, but just, uh, building that kind of experience in the pro leagues, like in New Zealand or wherever he was going to play.
Yeah, you know, skipping college to go to that.
Like, you know, we've seen plenty of guys come out off the national leagues and, you know, it's proven to be it's proven to be a good developmental, you know, strategy for young players, Um, that don't want to go to college route.
So I don't know.
I think Lamela's gonna be really interesting.
And if you know, if the Hornets decided to play him, you know, obviously they have a few older guys on that team, But if they if they do decide to give us a minute, that's, uh, really excited to see what it does.
Yeah, the mellow.
He's very talented.
I mean, he has the potential to be a star player in this league.
I do like Lonzo Lonzo ball.
He's Ali, He's solid, and he has the potential.
What I see in Lonzo is he has the potential to have a career similar to Jason Kidd.
He likes to distribute the ball, and he's further along in his jump shot than Kid Waas.
When came into the league, Kid was not a perimeter shooter.
He was get the ball and dribble it the length of the court and then either shoot it or pass it off a lot of go.
On the other hand, he grabs the rebound.
He's looking down court.
He doesn't dribble in 94 ft.
You know he's passing.
It does have a step, even though the half court said he gets and he keeps it moving and he's worked on his jump shot.
So he had broken his property fast.
His defense in solid defense is solid and his rebounding inside.
That's why I say I've seen him like a Jason Kidd.
You know, two point.
Oh, yeah, I know Lemelle.
Oh, he has, you know, superstar potential, you know, being able.
Yeah, it's a matter of fulfilling it, but he has that potential.
We'll see her and he has a three vision to that.
He has good players around him.
I think India's good players around him that will be able to help him out, Um, just kind of help him get his footing like Terry is one guy.
Um who specifically on that team? Uh who? Yeah, yeah.
Hayward and Hayward.
You know, But Terry Yobo Grams, Just because carrie carrie was, like, you know, kind of built his own, you know, I feel like he almost came out of nowhere.
He made the best of his opportunity.
Uh, you know, with the minutes he was getting with the Celtics and built on that and he was able to turn himself into, like, you know, pretty pretty, highly sought after player in the n b A.
But he took a step back when he went well, he was with the Celtic.
He was like the guy When when Carrie went down? Yeah, exactly.
And then he went and toe the Hornets.
And it's like, Hey, wasn't the same player.
Yeah, yeah, you know, you know, it's it's hard to explain, Like what it is if it's just I guess, you know, maybe he misses playing in Boston or whatever, but for some reason, yeah, he's just coming up short.
You should You should have stayed in Boston E really? Eventually that he would have been in America.
And that, you know that is Still, one thing that we have to see Pan out is how the Nets do when they have all the pieces ready.
Thio, Katie and Hiree come back like there.
If they're not serious title contenders, it's gonna be interesting.
Yeah, yeah, that's That's one of those team that on paper they look awesome.
However, the chemistry that they had was without K D and Kyrie.
Now they have to all take a step back, give the ball to Kyrie and Katie and then number 3rd and 4th options.
Yeah, no, And and we've had this conversation and I know James from the chat rooms is bringing this up.
But this is a conversation that I've had with Henry before in terms of Kyrie.
Unfortunately, Kyrie is super talented.
I mean this kid talent alone, there's no dispute.
The problem with Kyrie is his leadership skills.
And on top of that, you know, it's about him having the ball 24 7 as a post as a point guard, you want to distribute, you wanna make sure your teammates are happy and like they're gonna be more than willing to give you the rock so that you could shoot it and close the game.
But his mentality is he's got to score every single point every single quarter.
And that's not gonna translate into winning basketball.
It translates into a great stats, you know, on a personal of being a good place to basketball, right? You know, and that's that's the unfortunate part because the kid is super talented.
I mean, he's a bad kid.
I mean, nasty, great hair.
But, you know, he doesn't help chemistry because you make Kyrie, uh, we're gonna put him on your team.
No, E said we're gonna give us.
You gonna put him on your team, Kyrie? Oh, you could keep, like I read your best, bro.
Don't wanna, uh they were two guys e definitely more than a head cases.
Yeah, you know, it's exactly like you were saying with Kyrie Is that the talent is no doubt there.
You know, we saw that in Cleveland, obviously, but it's just a question of is he, you know, fully committed Thio giving the ball up for the sake of the team.
And is, you know, when when he doesn't have the shot, is he gonna pass it all for he's going to try to make the play.
And it's, you know, he and what have the same similar mentality.
Yeah, you know, Exactly.
Kind of, like, expected work.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But he doesn't have that mentality.
Want to school first? He wants to make players.
Yeah, he wants Hey, wants to score first.
And the thing about you got a point guard, right? That's what he is in the pudding point guard.
That's to fifth off the office.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You can't do as a point guard.
You can't be 2/5 of the office on, and then the other thing is to in terms of chemistry and and how you come along and bring along place last year or last season.
You know, he made a comment that doesn't sit well with I'm sure his teammates when he says, Oh, you know, we definitely need a you know, a roster upgrade.
You could think that you could think that.
But you don't make that public say that you don't say that because that puts your teammates in a bad position.
First of all, they're gonna look at you sideways.
It's kind of all.
Now they gotta answer to the media.
If the media questions them about, it's just bad.
It's just bad for chemistry.
And then the second thing that he said this this season, I mean, before this is gonna be positive.
Okay, But let me let me just add just one more point.
Or Dominic joined the broadcast, so hopefully he'll log in and he'll be one of our co host.
Um uh, just listen and dominant, you'll find out.
So anyway, so the other thing that I found very good disturbing about Kyrie is that he said, you know that they don't need a coach that they're going to coach by committee or collaborate.
Don't undermine the coach.
Yeah, you could make that statement behind this is don't make it public because that doesn't it doesn't You know, it doesn't go over well, you know, willing to listen to a coach that's right.
Already undermining the coach.
Yeah, well, you know it off course.
The good thing I would say that he's got going for himself is that him and Katie have been friends for a very long time.
So hopefully that relationship, he will give us some respect.
Hey, will be able to say Okay, Katie is the man in this team.
I'm gonna go Rock goes through him.
You know, Maybe he will say, Okay, I know my role.
And I'm the number two.
I mean, maybe you think you think you say that? I think that having delays, I don't know what in Cleveland, I'll chat e really, really problems with him in Cleveland.
I just think that he has a relationship, right, that he did like best friends.
So maybe he would defer to KB now that he's learned he's more mature so that he could actually win, you know? Yeah, you know, because they'll be it.
It's just It's Katie.
I mean, it's not like you're playing against somebody who's just coming up on the league.
This is like, you know, one of the best players in the league.
Yeah, I agree with you.
I agree with the point in the chat about Katie not really having experience as a leader of a team.
Um, you know, with the with the thunder.
He was still obviously super young.
Just getting a start, you know, on.
Then when he went to the Warriors, it had, you know, who wanted to be number one, right? And then when? But when he went to the Warriors, Hey, had to play with the team that it was really with. Nothing.
They had already.
They had already developed everything.
They had already built their chemistry again.
Katie was just adding to what they are, but yeah, yeah, but But at the same time, it's not like, you know, he didn't have to.
Really? He didn't.
He didn't have any, I guess, uh, problems to solve on that team.
He came into a team that was already all there, pieces put together.
Essentially, they just fallen short the playoffs.
Sure, you could tell that they were right on the cost of winning a championship.
They had already won one, but now they have already won.
They had anyone there was just making something that was better.
Even better. Exactly.
Eso Katie he came into that situation is just like, you know, let me coast off this to a regular.
Honestly, I'm comfortable saying that.
But he also felt he that he was one of the go to guys.
And that was his problem with Green.
Yeah, and he was one of the go to guys, you know, He has to be.
You know, you have Katie on your on your team, you're gonna give him the ball, especially, you know, late in the game scenario like that.
Um, but yeah, you know, it's it's tough when you're coming into a situation where they've already developed a chemistry.
Like I said, they've already They already have their guys, you know, like, um on one side.
Yeah, Well, listen, I'm telling you, it z gonna be interesting to see the dynamics in in Brooklyn, they play together or don't play together.
I mean, they definitely have the potential.
Like you said, Henry paper.
They look great on people. They look great.
However, however, people and on the court or two different things, you know what I'm saying.
And until we see this play itself out, hopefully you know Kyrie has matured.
E haven't I don't see it based on his comments, because his comments are very current.
Um, we'll see. We'll see.
Imagine if Harden would have ended up there.
That would have been paying, but it so isn't so.
I have taken up.
So isn't Nash the coach for the next? Yes.
Who's the coach for the Nets? You said it now.
He respects that.
Yeah, but he undermined it by saying, you know, we're gonna coach by committee, Is not you? Yeah, but according Thio Dominic, right? He's saying that he made that comment before Nash was hired.
I don't remember the timeline.
You're undermining the coach, right? Because they were gonna hire a coach regardless.
It's not like we're gonna We're gonna We're gonna have a player, coach, like, you know, Kyrie is gonna be the player coach, join our players.
Excuse me a minute. Yes.
That's gonna be a little Bron James of that.
He had his opportunity to prove himself to be as great or green within LeBron.
When LeBron left Cleveland for Miami.
And then it was Tyree's team and they dunk.
E. They were trashed.
Yeah, And then when he went to Boston, he was going to an upstart team and it hurt the chemistry.
They didn't win better.
They play better without him.
So, you know, super talented.
But without this guy, he's got a lot of growing up to do.
Oh, yeah, definitely has a lot of growing up to Dio and it Zain Questionable where it's like how, you know, at this point.
Like how long has he been in, like, 2014? I feel like 2015.
He came in the league around then, Um, so, yeah, it's like, you know, you got a You got a kind of assurance of that role, if you wanna.
If you actually want to be a leader on the team, you know, if you actually wanna have control of a team the way he wants Thio, Um, yeah, he's gonna have toe.
He's gonna have toe make that maturity.
You know, the thing is, you know, this is what happens with a lot of point cards that air young in the league when they don't have a mentor meaning another veteran who they respect on the bench that plays the same position is that and can show them the way off how you win.
You could put stats all you want but winning.
And you know team chemistry is another level off leadership that's required within a point guard.
He's never had that veteran behind him whispering in his ear.
Listen, Kyrie, do this.
Set this guy up.
You're gonna see that it's gonna pay off in the fourth quarter for you.
Hey, So maybe maybe Steve Nash is the guy.
Now he's a coach.
You need a guy that that's, you know, a contemporary that can play on the floor.
Yeah, OK, I'll give you an example.
So if I don't know if you follow Chauncey Billups.
So Chauncey Billups is one of these guys.
If if he was in his, you know, at the tail end of his career right now, and he was still in the league, That's a guy that I would have on the bench behind Kyrie, Andi and whispering.
And Kyron's here.
Listen, this is how you set your teammates up.
This is how you set yourself up.
Look for later in the game, and if he doesn't listen, you bring him off the bench.
You bring in a chance of building for off the bench to show Tyrion Tyree sitting on the bench.
He's to show courage.
This is how you set up your teammates.
He's never had that.
Ironically enough, Rondo would be a great guy.
The Nets missed out on him.
Yeah, they should have brought him in.
He needs somebody like that.
That's gonna help trade young tremendously.
Oh, a mixed in the house.
What's up? What's up? What's up? You You.
So hold on, hold on.
Yeah, I was talking about You're talking about the LeBron What you're talking about.
We were talking about Kyrie.
We didn't talk about the LeBron Kyrie thing.
We're just talking about Kyrie.
Yeah, I mean, I think I think you need some light up in there.
Uh, a dark man. It's dark.
You see your shadow? Yeah.
I'm gonna go, You chattel? Yeah.
Yeah, I could keep talking about Don't, but we want to hear what you gotta say.
Okay, Well, I didn't know what I don't know.
What exactly you guys were saying that way? It's much better now.
We were saying that Kyron's super talented.
Okay, Super talented.
Unfortunately, he's not a good leader.
He's a tremendous point card.
He's not a pure point card is a scoring point card, and as the result of that, it doesn't help his team win whenever he's had that kind of position.
He had the opportunity in Cleveland after LeBron left to Miami when he went to Boston.
He was supposed to be that missing piece in Boston to take him to that next level, and it just hurt the chemistry.
And now he went to Brooklyn.
The first thing that he says during the last season was they need to upgrade the roster in public to the media, which undermines your teammates.
So that didn't help the team on.
And then before Nasty, you know, even coaches his first game, he said.
Look, way don't need a coach we can coach by committee on.
Well, here's up with.
Well, here's the thing.
Here's the thing I don't think you need to be like.
I don't think you need to be a great leader to be a great player.
I think that he is the third or second best point guard in the league and I think that if that Nets team is healthy, um, there will be the best team in the East.
I also think that Kyrie looks at life very different from everybody in the world.
Yeah, so it's kind of one of those things where, like like and I said this in the stream and I was like, uh, he said that before Nash kind of got hired.
Like I think it b'more appalling to me if you said, Oh, we don't need a coach and Nationals already hired and is the national like So like, Nash knew what he was going into, you know, I think.
And I think Kyrie will like, I think, national help Kyrie a lot and as being, um, or true point guard than he is now.
Because that's what you're gonna have to be with K D.
Unless because unless they run sets in different lineups with Katie out, and then we're gonna have to score.
But with Kite with Katie and Carter on the same floor together, he's gonna have to be that you point guard.
And I think he will because Steve National help him, uh, march out of Myers on that stuff.
Mike D'Antoni on that coach and stuff.
So I think I think Kyrie has show like Kyrie in Boston.
That wasn't good.
Kyrie had no one in Cleveland to really hope with him.
Besides, obviously LeBron um, s o but to be you don't need to be a great leader to be a great en NBA player. E.
I don't think you have to be a great leader toe be a great NBA player, but I think you have to be a great leader if you wanna have, like, success.
Well, here's the thing.
Here's the thing that championships that's true.
I was I was talking about this to earlier is like I don't think I don't think I re gonna get one without LeBron And like, if he is, he's gonna go.
He's gonna have to go through LeBron.
And if he does that, then I took the hat off to him.
But, like right now, I just put Correa's probably top 10, 1 of the greatest point guards of all time.
And simple is that that I'm a duke. I'm a Duke fan.
I love Kyrie like Kyrie is my guy.
I just know he just he just looks at life differently and I've accepted it, and I think if that Nets team is healthy, there's a lot of that za lot of deuces to score 40 on that team live Kyrie Kyrie just kind of seems to me like Like I mean, almost like a Dennis Rodman level of just like wild card like it's like it could be.
It could be the week before the finals and Kyrie decides that he's retiring from basketball.
You know, something like that.
And he's just gonna, like, you know, move toe like some random beat somewhere, you know, like, how How is that kind of player? Yeah, yeah, but I mean again, he he's hit one of the most clutch shots of all time.
You got one of the best hands of all time. He's talented.
There's no debate that he's talented.
Yeah, we're not debating that.
He's not talented.
A problem of him talking bad about LeBron just cause you don't have no chip without without LeBron, you don't got no LeBron so like you like you don't got that opportunity of getting to the finals.
Is that LeBron so, Like, the only thing that should come out your mouth is LeBron Was this and this for me? I accepted it like he's a big brother to me.
I respect him. He's great.
I don't want to hear.
That is the first time in my career I could give someone else the ball and they could hit like maybe, you know, maybe it's maturity going up the chat.
Maybe this is, uh, Katie and Kyrie can bond off their mutual disrespect or hatred of LeBron and LeBron.
They they want to team up on, get past them.
Yeah, and that's that.
That's not gonna happen because the Nets don't have anybody to guard Anthony Davis.
So it's, you know, that's the thing.
Yeah, that's stuff that stuff.
Kyrie is listed as 23 uh, 23.
Best player in the off.
The best point guards off all time.
Yeah, no, there's not 23 point guards better than him.
Steve Magic Johnson, Oscar Robinson, Stephan Curry.
Thomas John Stockton, Steve Nash, Bob Cousy, Jason Kidd.
What? Fraser Allen Iverson, Gary Payton, Chris Paul, Nate Archibald, Derek Roles, Tony Parker, Lenny Wilkens.
They've been Chauncey Billups, Dennis Johnson, Russell Westbrook and some dude named Lafayette Lever.
A afternoon Hardaway.
And they even got you know who they got they got? Why, John Rando? Well, e guess so in terms of scoring anyway, so yeah, well, they got Stephon Marbury also, and Stefan was good, and they even got John Wall at 40 to listen.
So listen, So that's what I'm taking Kyrie over stuff that is Johnson before before Kyrie.
I'm taking you win three championships.
You wanna Dennis Johnson? Yeah, with on and with the Warriors.
The San Francisco Dennis Johnson was over there, out west before Jack Sigma and those boys.
I don't know about those.
I don't know about that list.
That's before your time.
Yeah, I'll be working for you guys.
Whoever did that, Dennis Johnson is not better than Kyrie.
Okay, this is not going to say that. You don't know.
You didn't know you were born.
Yeah, You gave him 60.
What? That was you, Jordan, and win Jordan and you know yeah.
Jordan scored 63 against Boston and lost.
So what does that say? 63? Denis Johnson's? Uh yeah, but curry curry Scorn.
Oh, I'm what you will call it on your boy Kyrie, Right.
What gave him 40 Gave him 41 Sin mob not giving a 30 way.
Agree that Kyrie is talented.
There's no debate, a meaning that it translates into wins.
That's the point.
And you said it best.
There is no championship for Kyrie.
It's about winning.
It's about winning.
What's the definition of state? What's the definition of winning? So, like if they're the first seed and their ships it No, no, no, no.
If they're the first seed and they go and they win, they win the East right And they meet LeBron in the finals and lose.
Is he still a winning point guard? Understand? I'm saying he's got to do it consistently, all right? You can't do it.
He can't do a one off.
He's got to do it consistently.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
LeBron has been in the final four e Greek Kyrie in order for him to prove that he's a winning player.
Forget about point.
Ah, winning player.
He has toe win consistently.
It doesn't necessarily mean that he has to win championships every single year, but he has to take his team and have a winning.
Hey has helped with a d.
He has complicated.
They gotta do it.
Not just this this season.
Next season in a few more season.
And then you're talking about a winning player, though.
It's Alec Iris in a winning player.
Yeah, they won games.
They want anything when they played, who was more of a cancer? Allen.
Listen, they won game.
They Yeah, land! Right now they won games.
Okay, I'm just saying that on that.
On that on that list.
Alan Robinson, Ally, ever since the top 10 point guard on that list that he just named off and he has no rings, he has no rings.
Right? So we're putting and Kyrie has one.
And Alan and Kyrie, I think a better point.
He probably better point guard than Alan Rival Alain Robbe, Don't live person.
You really look at it.
He's probably better.
Point guard Allen Iverson.
So therefore, that list I just don't see a huh? These players who have rains who are not good players.
It's not just about it's not just about ranks.
You could say it looks longer.
He was a central to have a client.
He's not racist looking.
Yeah, it is not about direction.
Yeah, you're right.
You're right. You're right.
But we're talking about winning.
Winning, winning, winning! Winning with Alan Iverson.
That was literally him.
Like he Ah 6 ft point guard, Will e I mean, you look at the roster of the 70 Sixers.
They were not that great, But outside of him hey, will them to the finals on his own back? Kyrie! Kyrie In my eyes, isn't it all right? The league is a little different now, but okay, it is.
I mean, I don't think and I don't think you could take that team now with like, if you want to match the talent that that team had.
And this now, this era, I don't think that team would make the playoffs.
So, like, it's different eras, different teams.
But But listen, Kyrie, Kyrie Kyrie has never taken any team anywhere.
Hey, actually, he kills the chemistry.
Unfortunately, E I love him.
They did a lot for my the Celtics, the Celtics.
They ended up playing better without him without Yeah, he might not be a winning player yet, but like it's okay.
It's okay to be a great too It is okay to do that.
It is okay to be like that, it's okay to be ah, great to it.
Like like Scott Iwas.
Like Kobe was for shock.
Like it's okay to do that.
Well, does you believe that? I think, with K d.
He does because he actually respects K. D.
I think you will see a D that he was respects LeBron.
So I don't know.
I don't think he wants to be ***.
I can do anybody and that Security on his level, and I'll give him that again.
I think he's talented, man, if you ask me if I wanna point guard in the mode of a Kyrie in terms of talent and skill handled, shot, you know, killer instinct.
But if you're asking me because he win, if you asking me, can he lead a team? You know, Does he have the maturity? The head t know how toe Turn it off.
Players involved his team, is it? Well, I have to question it, but that's just being honest.
All right, come on, Come on.
So, hire is not a winning player.
Is Yannis a winning player? Yeah, Honest Yanis Yanis is a unicorn Yanis Yanis is not even like Yeah, Yannis is like I Yannis is literally just like you have tow.
You have to just let him do whatever he's going to do with that team because he is so special that you can't even categorize it as any other kind of player.
Honestly, like I think Yanis is just like a different.
But John, this is not a point guard that confused The honest with Kyrie Kyrie job is to distribute the ball.
That's not his stop My, my honest com brought up bringing him up with a different conversation.
So But with Kyrie, though, um, I think that if you were to start a team right now, you don't start a team with Kyrie.
Kyrie is part of the team.
You start whoever you want to start your team with.
You understand what I'm saying, like and I think that z fine.
That's okay, like I don't think that he's one of those.
I don't think he's one of those.
He's just not that person that you could lead a lead a team with, and that's fine.
Like he might not be like a leader, but I think he's a winning player, though I think you, like, will do what it takes to win.
Like Like he wasn't leading Boston.
One player like he wasn't leading Boston was because, like, leadership had a role.
But he also wasn't playing good basketball, Understand? I'm saying so.
Like he still was still trying.
He was still trying toe win.
He just played really bad.
So e think again.
He's not a leader, but I think he's a winning.
So questions that afternoon.
What you see? Oh, if you guys have Thio like put a team together, who it was like from, give me a starting five and you're 35 1 bench players.
If you're six, you have to do era.
You have to do error or right now, starting starting a team.
Who's playing right now? Miguel? You are 100.
I got How about this time you go? Point go.
Point guard point.
We'll do a little drive.
I'll point guard like that.
I like that. We'll do a little. We'll do a little draft.
So point guard Stefan Curry.
Now now like No, no, no e playing right now.
There's got to be this current era they're playing right now.
I'll go with Rondo.
Yeah, plan. Right now.
Currently playing? Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah, he goes, He Oh, come on. You go.
Eso Here's what You gotta pick your five.
Okay? You gotta pick your five.
And once you pick those whose whoever you pick is off the roster, okay, Because you got rocked.
So I'm gonna go with Murray.
Uh, probably go e I think I'm split between.
I'm probably split between like John Moran Luca Dodgers.
But not that not point cargo.
He's a point. Okay.
E I could have said LeBron James as my point card.
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Um, so I get back to back picks and then we'll go. We'll go.
Ok, um I will pick um, Damian Lillard who took my God.
I'll take Damian Lillard and I will take Devin Booker at my two.
That's your That's your shooter.
That's my That's like That's my everything.
You sure That's just that's just shooting guard.
I'm giving him the boot.
You left out your man.
Kyrie o, are you in for Kyra? You left them out.
E o Damian Lillard the second best point guard in the league.
I would have picked him.
E dame falls into the category to me of Allen Iverson of, like, winning.
You could be a winning player without getting a with He's a i with leadership.
Yeah, you know what? So who just really I can't hear Gabriel shooting guard? Oh, man.
I feel, uh, I wanna go. I wanna go.
We got money, guy.
Yeah, I'm a Roman button.
Who you got? No, I got I got bandana Rich.
That's that ***** Watch.
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All right, We'll get back to you. Henry. You go.
E got Thompson, man e got the Warriors.
The Warriors guard.
I got Thompson, Curry and Thompson.
He's out for the season.
Yeah, but he's a player.
I mean, if he was good, you know, if he was in a You know, I'm thinking guys that are playing now.
Technically, he's not.
What hurt? He's hurt.
Technically, he's not.
He's gonna be out the entire season, but Okay, so you're gonna pick another guy, right? You know, whatever you want, man.
As a shooting guard.
Um, Manu to Damian.
Um uh Oh, my God.
Who's out there? There's a really good shooting. God****.
Look in the chat, right.
Some some guy would have some guy with a beard with a bit E O Gabriel.
Man, that's my Yeah, I picked I believe about their Nobody picked him.
Nobody picked him.
There are a couple of guys we're missing.
All right, I'm gonna go with Donovan Mitchell.
Curry and down with Mitchell do.
Can you guys hear me? Yeah. Small.
Yeah, I hear you, Ma.
So, Henry, your s seven years a small forward figure, Small forward a small forward Enough.
Yeah, but you didn't.
You didn't pick your shooting guard.
Yeah, you got You got Murray.
Mark? Yes, Um, forward LeBron, uh, Bron.
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Uh, okay, go ahead.
Who you got? You got Murray and Luca, Little guys, my shooting guard. Right.
And who is just more forward now who somebody was the oh, God has got Rondo and Bogdanovich and back down a bit And it had a small forward.
Now my small forward That's a week thing.
Don't worry about Rondo Back down the way.
LeBron let me see whom I was gonna Who Who am I gonna pick? I'm gonna pick.
You got Murray Luca and a D. Okay.
Oh, okay, that's better.
That's good. Yeah.
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And I would guess that would go down around the school.
She just had this up.
Oh, yeah. Give me C J McCollum.
CJ McCollum. CJ.
Oh, boy. That's a small lineup, man.
No, we'll get it done.
Oh, you won't get it done.
Gritty. Guys like Jimmy.
So who goes now? Uh, I'm gonna dio and Booker.
I'm gonna dio dio e First of all, I'm gonna do Jayson Tatum, the oh, okay, that's it.
You don't get another pick.
Yes, I do. I get back to that picks.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
You don't do that twice.
That doesn't work like that.
You get that already.
Ugo, he gave me a patio.
That's right. That's right.
You don't get back.
That's why you get ready.
Oh, and I picked up e power forward now.
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We're going back now.
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E gotta take them off my list.
Yeah, All right.
So what? What's the order now gave you? It should be.
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Okay, I'm taking I'm taking Jonah's.
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Let me see in the East.
Oh, that's tough for those four guys or not.
I'll pick my guy if you guys still good and he's not a probably was too small for But he's gonna swap Be out Brandon Ingram Whoa! Nice man.
Man in group brand, Um, is is the next key card, So All right, so, um carrots.
You're of Henry.
Well, okay, I'm gonna go with Okay.
Right now, let me tell you who's gonna be a senator? Uh, LaMarcus Aldridge.
So are we Flip? Are we flipping the centers? You'll turn.
Are we flipping like since we're flipping? Because you could have a small team.
You have a tall team is up to you.
Man gave me as a young man.
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That's a nice one, man.
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DeAndre Ayten e like that. I like that.
Oh, man, you gotta be kidding me.
I'll give me Oh, maybe I'm next.
I'm taking the joke Joke. Mom did.
Oh, okay, so I'm thinking I'm taking the process.
I'm taking the process.
I'm very best foot.
That's your best player.
Remember, we got we got 1/6 man to pick.
Okay, Henry Europe.
Oh, I'm going with Mitchell Robinson there.
My boy boy, Your sixth man.
You know, that's not That's my son of man.
Well, that's just son, my center man.
you're gonna be from city Lob City east.
Um, my my centers.
Karl Anthony towns.
Uh, you got a good one.
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E was gonna do bam.
I was going to bam out of by E.
I need I need shooting.
I need shooting.
I want my like, my big toe shoot.
So I like Karl Anthony towns.
Okay, so, um, and then you get you pick your six men.
Ma, my six months Harden.
Are you gonna go for Harden? No.
Who? Cardinal? All right.
I'm gonna do this one for Dominic.
I'm gonna be Oh, you don't even, you know, selling yet gave you up.
Oh, you know the truth.
What's your name? Uh, And be six men.
I'm gonna have my six, man.
So this one's tough honesty.
This one's tough.
Uh, yeah, I need time.
All right. I'm gonna pick my sick man.
You already? Yeah.
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He's e think about my team.
Think about my team.
Think about my team.
The best players.
E got rondo there.
Rondo is gonna be working them working is here.
Look, this is how you do it, baby.
Come on, get hurt.
I'm worried about that, man.
Don't worry about that.
You're You're laughing now.
You ain't laughing Game, can you? E got by six men from the shot.
I'm going abroad to deal badly.
Deal. All right, Bill.
And I got a solid team right there.
I'm not gonna lie.
You dio I do like your team Washington e 01 of those fallacy basketball and put our team that we Charles, and see how we dio like that.
Henry, you got, um I want I have to go with Russell Westbrook.
I'm gonna have Thio go with, uh, I'm gonna have to go with Frank Gray Young.
I'm gonna have to go with him.
I like that train young like that.
I'm about to go with trail just cause you got you got a small team, man.
I got really, really cooker and trade young three guards and Zion and several times and towns.
Oh, scratch that.
I don't want I don't want I don't want I don't want No, I don't want.
You know what E want, Tyler? Hero, Hero.
You go on, Tyler.
Listen, uh, just blew up this year, you know, he's not a consistent necessarily, uh, all star, you know? Oh, he will.
That's baby D book.
That's baby D book E b. Devin Booker.
You You better also, man.
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Way back up for them.
I actually have to get going.
All right, man, you know something I don't have? Yeah.
Let's see what happens tomorrow and after tomorrow night.
And we talk about hotties.
Air looking next time.
Yeah, how I played.
Hey, maybe we could do a fantasy league.
Yeah. Yeah, maybe we'll figure it out.